and moratorium on evictions gets mentioned in the news on a daily basis, what is apparently almost a secret to policymakers, media and the general public is that those protections extended to those at risk of eviction are not extending whatsoever to tenants already scheduled to move out. [please stand by] please stand by]

>> i ask the supervisors to immediately meet with each other, discuss this issue, get it into the media, spread the word. i believe the action will be taken on behalf of these people should anyone know about this issue. everyone i've spoken to has been surprised. >> clerk: thank you. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please.

welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes to share your thoughts with the board of supervisors. >> thank you, supervisors. my name is fernando, and i'm speaking on behalf of item 24, the -- [inaudible] >> now i want to thank you for finding this state build that

would reduce the market housing that we can build in this city. it's important that we preserve what we have here in san francisco, and thank you for all you've done. urge you to support the resolution and to send a clear message to our state delegation in sacramento to amend sb 1085 in order to preserve our affordable housing game. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. we have 12 callers in the queue. you'll have up to two minutes to tell the board what you're thinking. welcome. >> yes, hello. this is peter warfield from library users association. sounds like a lot of places are open or being opened, but unfortunately not the library. on march 13, friday, the 13, the library, with no notice,

just simply closed all of its branchs and was basically dropped dead from the perspective of library users who do not have internet at home. there was a shrunken reference service which was down from more than 60 hours a week to 35 hours a week, monday through friday, 10:00 to 5:00. as we know, the poorest among san franciscans and at this time, particularly of note, minorities in san francisco are the hardest hit with the least access to internet. there are, according to the mayor, a mayoral office report, there are over 100,000 san

franciscans who do not have access to the internet -- more than 100,000. now with a budget of 160 million or so, and touting all of the wonderful ways in which the library, in fact, normally does accommodate folks who can't read very well, especially for kids, with a kids well, if you can't see very well, large print or a blind library, a deaf library, materials in 40 or 50 languages, and yet folks who do not have internet access are completely left in the cold when it comes to access to materials they might be able to use. how about curbside service? how about mailing service? quite a few libraries do have curbside service. we don't, and -- >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. well co welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes

to share your thoughts. >> hello? >> clerk: hi, welcome. we can hear you. >> hi. thank you. my name is kristina, and i work at body manipulation tattoo and piercing in the mission. i'm calling in support of item 24, dr. aragon's motion to allow body piercing shops to open as soon as july 13. body piercings are already trained in all of the highest standards of cleanliness. i think that at this time, it's really important to allow body art facilities to continue to provide a community with a safe space that uplifts and promotes

personal expression, so, yeah. thank you, and i'd appreciate it if you could get back to us as soon as you can. >> clerk: next speaker, please. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes to tell us what's on your mind. >> hello. i'm mike sizemore, and i live in district 6, in soma. [inaudible] >> -- this is preventing us from going -- progressing forward on our transit goals in the city. this is a travesty of our bureaucracy in san francisco, and i'm calling on the board to expedite this hearing as quickly as possible. thanks. >> clerk: thank you for your callers. we have ten speakers in the queue. we will take the next caller,

please. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes. >> hi. my name is john, and i'm the owner-operator of azucar lounge in soma, district 6. i'm calling to voice my support for item 26, calling to reopen businesses in a safe and responsible manner. without this, many food and beverage establishments are not fully able to utilize the city's new shared spaces program as the alcoholic beverage control will not issue any permits. i strongly urge you to support business opening in this next phase. thank you so much. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker, please. you'll have up to two minutes. welcome, caller. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is chabisani, and i'm

the director of public policy on behalf of the san francisco restaurant association. i urge you to support the local variance in san francisco. as someone had mentioned before me, without this, restaurants who aren't able to subm-- [inaudible] >> -- vital sales or worse, risk losing their liquor licenses at a time when our industry is fighting to survive. thank you for all your work to support local restaurants, and we appreciate your consideration to support this variance. >> clerk: thank you. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes to share your thoughts with the board of supervisors. >> hello. my name is dave, and i'm the

owner of mx-3 fitness with locations in district 3 and district 5. i'm also a board member of the castro merchants, and i'm a member of the san francisco independent fitness coalition which represents more than 40 small businesses, 600 employees, serving more than 20,000 san francisco customers. i'm calling in support of item 28 and dr. aragon. in addition, i'm asking to allow small fitness studios to be allowed to reopen with salons on july 13, if not sooner. we're able to provide the same, if not greater, covid safety protocols, as salon. this coalition has developed a detailed reopening protocols, often exceeding cal-osha's recommendations and we provided those to dr. aragon.

we're not big box gyms like equinox or crunch. without swift action, the city runs the risk of losing this once fluorishing sector of the economy. salons seem to have gotten preferential treatment on reopening because they have a larg larger client base. as any doctor will tell you, exercise is a key contributor to both physical and mental health, much more than getting your haircut. i appreciate you supporting all

independent fitness studios and providing an even playing field for all businesses in san francisco which provide one-on-one, low and no touch personal services. >> clerk: thank you. thank you, caller, for your comments. before the next speaker, i will say there are 53 listeners and nine individuals in the queue. sometimes the queue can move very quickly, so if any of the listeners listening would like to get into the queue, please press star-three soon because at the end of the line, i would hate for you to, at the last second, try to get into the queue and we close public comment. we'll just keep going with who's in the queue now. operations, please send through the next caller. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes. welcome, caller. >> hello? >> clerk: hi, welcome.

hello, we can hear you. welcome, caller. yes, we can hear you. >> hello? >> clerk: hi. welcome, we can hear you. maybe that's a bad reception. hello, caller. are you still there? welcome, caller. >> hi, i'm sorry. can you hear me now? >> clerk: yes, we can. thank you. thanks for trying.

>> thank you so much. i'm calling because i'm really concerned about how the city is going to manage the rest of us, our feelings about the police department. i don't have any complaints about our current police department and our staff members, but i do have a concern about how the city's going about looking at what we call police reform, like maybe moving some of the funding from the police department to another area. i kind of think you need to do it differently, you really need to think differently. i was, in 1995, kind of helping to protest police brutality, and then in -- i'm sorry, 2015, this whole mario woods reignited all these protests, and now george floyd. after covid-19, the first big thing that hits us after that is this george floyd

experience. so my thinking is obviously, clearly, people, leaders are not thinking that drastic change needs to happen. so just to give you an example of drastic change, in large corporations, which someone mentioned today, making lots of up money, can afford to pay taxes, what they will do is they fire everybody, and they'll ask them to reapply for their jobs so they can revet them. i can no longer tolerate the police violence around citizens. i no longer feel comfortable around them. my thinks is that the city really needs to think about how are we going to do our policing? really look at community policing and really look at different ideas and contact the large corporations who are so successful and find out what it is that they do to make sure that folks that work for them,

like the police department works for us, follows the guidelines and the rules, so that's all i have to say. >> clerk: thank you. thank you for your comments, and thanks for sticking with it. we'll stick with it as long as you'll stick with it. okay. so i had 20 callers in the t queue. operations, please send the next caller through. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes. >> my name is reilly brown, and i work at market tattoo in district 2. we're all fighting to make ends meet and support our families, and i would like to see tattoo shops opened as soon as june

19. >> tattoo shops can provide an even higher than needed state of cleanliness and safe working. thank you for your consideration, and thank you for allowing me to participate. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. welcome the caller. you'll have up to two minutes to provide your comments to the board of supervisors. >> hi. my name is peter papadopoulos, and i'm calling on behalf of the mission economic development agency, and we are in support of item 24, the resolution opposing sb 1085

unless amended. we'd like to thank supervisor peskin for bringing this -- these forward, and we thank supervisor ronen and the other cosponsors for their support of this item. our concern principleally, is written, this bill is another example of top down sacramento state legislation that misses the point of its impact in cities like san francisco. while some core elements in this bill may sound good in theory, as applied in san francisco, it company devastating to communities in san francisco that desperately need more affordable housing. not enough affordable housing means more people crowding in together in order to be able to pay rent. this is now manifesting in part

in low-income latinos suffering the highest rates of covid-19 infection and hospitalization rates in san francisco, and members have testified in congress that these effects are due to long-standing housing inequities. so we thank you for the authorship of the bill, the sponsorship of the bill, and we'd urge all the supervisors to vote in support today. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. you'll have two minutes. welcome, caller. >> hello. i'm theodore randolph. i

i'm -- [inaudible] >> clerk: welcome, caller. you have up to two minutes to

provide your comments to the board of supervisors. >> hello, supervisors. my name is galen leach. i'm a tattoo artist in san francisco calling in support of item 28. i would like to say we're trained in packaging exposure controls and trained to break the chain of infection. please remember that the tattoo artists have been refraining from handshaking long before anyone ever heard of covid-19. thank you for your time. thank you. that's all. >> clerk: thank you. please keep watching and listening to our board meetings. next speaker, you'll have up to two minutes. >> kim tavaloni. i'm calling regarding item 28. i know there's a huge push to open up as fast as possible but there's a little concern that

there's not been any input from frontline workers on this issue and how they feel about it, and are they prepared for another go around. we know that the rates of infection are going to go up as we open up. they deserve at least some guarantees of what's been in place. i have a lot of concerns about dr. aragon and some of the decisions that he has made or not made, for that matter, and i know that many of you share those concerns, too, and i think that deserves some process here. it is very, very evident that the chamber of commerce was told about this ahead of time, yet most progressives had no idea what the issue was, and it wasn't flagged for them. i know a lot of people that wanted to comment on this.

i know the department of public health does not have a record on homelessness. what happens as the businesses open? do people get shoved aside just like they were beforehand? no solutions. this department needs a lot of help and deserves frontline worker input before we pass this. i think the least you can do today is give us a one week delay on making this decision on number 28. i want bars and everything else to open up as much as the rest of you. trust me, i'll be the first in line at a number of bars, but at the same time, i'm just asking that you allow some of the frontline workers to have input on this. that department, d.p.h., has been very -- >> clerk: thank you for your comments. all right. we have about 15 callers in the queue. let's go to the next caller.

welcome. you have up to two minutes to provide your comments to the board of supervisors. >> so supervisors, i want to talk about two topics. the first one you haven't mentioned in all of your deliberations, which is very important, is called qualified immunity. if you understand what is qualified immunity, then you can put a stop to what is going on on the streets. now, we cannot have the mayor and just one other person just arbitrarily take money from the

police department. i haven't heard kwone of you tk about the lgbtq issue where the supreme court has finally got some light and is shedding some light and is realizing that as human beings, everybody has to be treated equally. i'm suggesting that the lgbtq -- lgbtq community work really hard, and the one or two that i know whose heart right side in the right place, reserve $100 million so that that segment of the population that's suffering and has been suffering for all these decades get some help. they're very educated.

everybody knows that. they've suffered too much. everybody knows that, and it's time for san francisco to pull its best foot forward. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. we have 14 callers in the queue. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes to make your statement. >> hello. can you hear me? >> clerk: yes, we can. welcome. >> i'm gauge armstrong. i'm the -- gage armstrong. i'm a transtattoo artist. i've been working in this community since 1996. all of my compatriots and my

peers have spoken more than eloquently about the fact that we are more than able to deal with the covid-19. if i have to wait till august, i'm going to be over 60-k -- it

would be a shame to see that go away. in this time, i couldn't imagine packing up and leaving. i hope you guys can help us get back to work as soon as possible. i thank you for letting us come

and appeal to you. thank you. >> clerk: thank you very much. welcome, next caller. you'll have up to two minutes to share your comments with the board of supervisors. >> good afternoon, board of supervisors. my name is maria with united to save the mission, and i'm calling in regards to number 24, opposition to sb 1085. it seems that every time our city moves forward in equity especially for our low-income communities of color somebody in the state listens to special interests and seeks to undermine our planning and our local planning and affordable housing tools, and this bill will devastate our low-income communities of color, so i just think it's imperative that we oppose this bill, and i thank you for bringing forward this

resolution. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. there are about ten callers in the queue. we'll take the next caller. you have up to two minutes. welcome, caller. >> i work at sun tattoo in san francisco, and i'm just adding my support for item 28. i would like tattoo businesses to reopen as soon as june 19, especially since all the other shops are open in california outside the bay area. everybody touched on sterilization and a clean environment. because of that, i everyone and i work with understand how to prevent cross contamination and provide a safe experience for everyone involved, certainly safer than businesses that are already open. thanks krerk clerk great. thank you f

-- >> clerk: great. thank you for your comment. next caller. >> i'm calling on item 24, and i strongly support the resolution to support senator nancy skinner's state bill. i'm asking to join supervisors peskin, row anyonen, and fewer refuse the bill unless properly amended. the public participation in the planning process would be removed with affordable housing mon dated. please vote in an expanded housing density law. let's not let sacramento determine housing in san francisco.

thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hello? is that me? >> clerk: yes, welcome. >> my name is chad, and i'm a tattoo artist. i own a house and have a family. i've been a tattoo artist for 20 years. we are struggling, and it makes it hard to struggle for three months and support our families. opening our shops help out more than just our businesses, it helps our families' lives that are struggling. so please don't just consider

tattoo parlors, think about other people who are suffering, as well. >> clerk: if you are interested in getting in the queue, best to get in sooner rather than later. if you haven't already, press star-three on your phone to get into the queue. all right, operations, please send the next caller through. welcome. you'll have up to two minutes. >> hello. my name is jeff gleason. i am a professional tattoo artist in the city of san francisco, and i am calling on behalf of my tattoo community to support item 28, dr. aragon, and opening tattoo shops by june 19. as you know, we uphold ourselves in the highest standards of sanitation and cleanliness, and i am confident that any new guidelines set forth for our industry reopening would see a seamless

transition on our end. my last day of work was march 13. my unemployment ends in july. i am a father of two. i have a mortgage. my savings are dwindling by the day. my mortgage lender does not have a reasonable forebearance option for me, and i need to get back to work as soon as possible. i feel like i'm in jeopardy of losing my home, and my family is scared. one shop i know in san francisco has closed its doors for good, and will not be reopening, and it has been a sad and huge loss for our community. i would like to reity rate what giovanni mentioned about san francisco being a global destination point for tattoo collectors all over the world. people specifically travel here

to get tattoos have artists here. if we cannot get those people here, people will leave one by one, and our place in tattooing will be diminished. i am confident in my ability in tattooing and my colleagues ability, and i trust my clients to adhere to any guidance we set in front of them. i appreciate your letting me speak, and i appreciate gyour consideration getting us back to work as soon as possible. >> thank you. next speaker, please. you have two minutes. >> hi. my name is guillermo.

i am calling in support of item 28. i work at mom's tattoo and piercing shop located on the haight. i would like for our shop and our neighbor's shop to reopen on june 19. we practice clean and sterile services regularly. we are ready to make adjustments to serve our clients and the community during this pandemic. this is all we can do at this point. i oppose bill 24, hurting the communities of color and low-income families, and it only benefits big business. please do the right thing, let us open. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. and welcome, next speaker. you'll have up to two minutes.

>> hello. thanks for taking my call. my name is hallie, and i own idle hands tattoo. my shop has been open since 2004. i'm calling in support of item 28 and dr. aragon supporting opening the next round of businesses as soon as june 19. our clients are requesting appointments, and while we have to turn them away, it is very easy for them to drive over the bridge and get tattooed by somebody else. i am also aware that med spas were allowed to open in san francisco yesterday, and similar to tattoos, med spas perform all types of nonessential and beautifying services which technicians and clients are in close proximity for extended period of times,

and yet, with the exception of med spas, this community does not have the training that the tattoo community really has. it really seems that tattooing has been overlooked when deciding who may and may not open. the only updates needed to add to our time tests methods and protocols would be to wear face masks and lower the number of people inhabiting our space, which we're already willing to follow in our updated guidelines. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. we have ten callers in the queue. >> hello. is this me? >> clerk: hello. you have ten minutes. welcome. >> hi. thank you so much for having me on on this. i'm calling in support of item

28 and dr. aragon. my name is nathan, and i'm a san francisco firefighter. in response to an earlier caller, as a frontline worker, i would say that i -- i support tattoo shops opening and probably most of my co-workers do. the -- according to the san francisco p.i.o., the fire department's, and our chief, zero members of the san francisco fire department have tested positive for covid, so it shows by taking the proper precautions, masks, gloves, what have you, we can prevent the spread of this virus, so i don't see any reason for the tattoo shopping not being allowed to reopen. i think with the sterilization and all of that, they're at the front of this situation daily. and i'm with the san francisco fire department, and not a single member has tested

positive. we support item 28 and dr. aragon. thank you for your time. >> clerk: thank you for finding us and for providing us your comments. next speaker, please. >> yes. my name is jonathan rider, and i'm also a firefighter with sfrichk fire department. i'm also calling you in support of item 28 and dr. aragon's opening of tattoo shops soon or sooner than june 19. as a frontline emergency service provider, i understand what's necessary to prevent the spread of covid-19, and i'm convinced that s.f. tattoo industry is prepared to safely operate. they already have the great understanding and training and the health and safety. i think there's far less risk of covid-19 spreading in their industry than anywhere else.

you're taking a bigger risk going to a grocery store or gas station than you are to a tattoo parlor just simply because of their training and their experience. i've got two little girls at home, and i'm a fireman, as i said, and i'm in contact with covid-19 patients, and i wouldn't take a chance with their lives. i just think the tattoo industry is far more prepared than the other industries, in fact, and -- in reopening and preventing covid-19. i'd like to ask your help to save our local economy and maintain our local san franciscans by opening our tattoo parlors, and thank you for your time. >> clerk: thank you for your work that you and your fellow caller do to protect our residents. thank you for your comments.

well come, caller. you have up to two minutes to provide the board of supervisors your public comments. >> hello. >> clerk: welcome. >> i just want to throw my support behind item number 28, dr. aragon's proposal to open up tattoo shops. my name is derek, and i've been tattooing for over 14 years. prior to that, i had a career in frontline workers, ai was a e.m.s., and before that, home care. these protocols are something that we've been prepared in since the day you start as a tattooer. something that hasn't been touched upon is how much our

tattoo shops support the local economy in our own neighborhood and our own businesses. our clients get food next door, they get coffee. they are patrons of the block not only to our own financial benefit but to everyone in our community, so i think in pushing this forward, you're not only supporting the tattoo artists who everyone has touched base with, makes the city richer, more diverse, but you're also helping those neighborhoods that have been affected by this covid on very severe financial terms, so i hope that you consider not only tattooers but the community at large for bringing some type of financial benefits to all of us. thank you for your time. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. we have seven callers in the queue. next caller, please. you have two minutes to provide your comments to the board of supervisors. welcome.

>> this is rick hall, member of united to save the mission. i'm speaking in support of item 24, the resolution to oppose sb 1085. you've heard from peter and others about the -- saying that this bill in particular with regard to san francisco, but i'd also like to ask you to take some resolutions or rapid actions to oppose many other bills. 1085 and many other land use bills are being rushed through our state assembly members and senators and being heard in only one policy committee per house due to the pandemic. the public and you guys are busy and distracted, responding to the pandemic and recovery,

answering the call for social justice and police reform and its associated social unrest. you guys and the people of california aren't able to keep up with these bills right now. many of them will lead to speculation, gentrification, further racial discrimination in housing and will provide little if any additional affordable housing. the bills i'm talking about include sb 1120, sb 902, ab 979, ab 3107, sb 995, ab 2345, ab 3040, and ab 3234. the theme of this year's bill seems to -- all these bills seems to be taking away input

by local electeds, including our planning commission and board of supervisors and we, the citizens. circumvent -- >> clerk: thank you. thank you for your comment. next speaker, please. >> hi. my name is scott. i'm in section 9. i own and operate a tattoo par lar lore in san francisco. i don't see -- parlor in san francisco. it's obvious we run a sterile, clean, professional industry. we're regulated by the board of health, not to mention osha and the state and all that blah, blah, blah. so as a community of tattooers and tattoo shops, we love and respect our community, and i expect our city and our city council members to love and respect us in the same passion

and show us the due respect that we have to be able to provide us with being able to make our own living, making our own choices, and yeah, that's it. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you, caller. next speaker, please. well come, caller -- welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes to provide your comments to the board of supervisors. >> hello. >> clerk: hi, welcome. we can hear you. >> hi. so i just wanted to call in. my name is steve rodriguez. i work in the city as a fireman, and i just wanted to voice my support for item 28 and dr. aragon. i get tattooed in san francisco and just would really like to see them reopen as they're well prepared and well versed in

sterilization more than most other businesses that would set to be reopen on june 19. so i'd like to see them open june 19, and thank you for your time. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. thank you for keeping our community safe. there are four callers in the queue. there are also a number of you listening. if you're interested in joining the queue, which goes really quickly at the end. please press star-three. welcome, caller. you have up to two minutes. >> is this me? >> clerk: this is you. welcome. >> thanks. to whom it may concern, i'm calling in support of item 28 and dr. aragon. i am a restaurant worker who is out of work for medical reasons right now. i have been getting tattooed in san francisco since 2011. i got my first tattoo here.

the tattoo industry is what taught me to be comfortable in my own skin, and having them out of work and having their families not supported right now is hurting for a lot of us, too, in other industries, and opening them on june 19 would be a -- a very good move, i think, because the support that i've found in this community through tattooing has definitely been, like, a friendship among some of them -- and a lot of them, and that's all. thanks. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. welcome, caller. >> hello? >> clerk: yes, hello, we can hear you. >> it's me? >> clerk: yes.

>> thank you. my name is joanne, and i'm a housekeeper. i've lived in san francisco for 13 years. i'm a proud member of united local 2. i want to talk item 23. in my family of four, we have been affected the worst because of covid-19. my husband's job is also connected to the hotels, so it is very important for us that all hotels reopen safe and strong. the hotels are saying they should. i'm worried that the guests won't come back unless they charge our hotel as safe and clean. there is no business, we have no work. we should not make sure that our hotel -- we should make sure that our hotels, our spaces, are for everyone, and

we should make sure that our hotels in san francisco are cleanest in the world. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. we have five speakers in the queue. you have up to two minutes. >> hello? >> clerk: hello. welcome. >> all right. my name is jeff, and i tattoo in san francisco like so many other callers. i am calling in regards to item 28, and i'm not going to repeat everything that everybody's said over and over, but one thing i'd like to repeat that hasn't been said that much is most tattoo shops see a limited number of people per day, and we are able to limit it even more if need be, and there are far less people involved in the day-to-day operations of a tattoo shop or grocery store

or, say, many hair salons, and i'd just like to add my comment to the group. thank you very much. >> clerk: great. thanks for finding us. thank you for your comments. next caller. we have six callers in the queue. >> thank you. hello, members of the board of supervisors. my name is gail gilman, a 20 year resident of district 3. i'm calling to support item 28 and dr. aragon, but as a resident of the city, i ask that the board of supervisors insist on clarity of regulation. there has been confusion over whether the state guidelines supersede san francisco's guidelines, and there's confusion for many small restaurant and bar owners on how to open their businesses to be successful. everyone wants their workers

safe through the state, and while i fully support san francisco submitting their assertation certificate to the state, i ask that there are guidelines and support in helping those small family owned businesses reopen in san francisco. many of them have small foot prints, and they need guidance in reopening under covid-19. thank you very much for your hard work. i really appreciate your leadership in the time of this pandemic. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. i hope i had the microphone on when i said thank you, commissioner gilman. thank you for your comments. thank you. next speaker, please.

welcome, caller. >> yeah, hello? >> clerk: it's your turn. it's your turn. >> my name is ben mcqueen -- hi. my name is ben mcqueen, and i'm calling in support of item number 28 and dr. aragon, shop's oepgs pening on june 19. i tattoo, and i don't need to go into what everyone else has told you about our high standards of cleanliness and standards. we are anxious to get back to open per state guidelines, limit the number of people in the shop, mask, temperatures at the door, all that good stuff, so yeah, i just want to put my name in for calling in support of item 28. thank you guys so much.

>> clerk: great. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. welcome, caller. you have up to two minutes. >>. >> hello. my name's henry crinkle. my friends call me hank. i'm calling to support getting tattoo shops open in a couple of weeks. i'm a homeowner in the city. i work for the city, and i come into close contact with covid-19 patients with appropriate p.p.e. and social distancing. i tested negative a couple of weeks ago. to put that in perspective, i think a business like a tattoo parlor with appropriate safeguards should be allowed to

reopen. you might consider opening tattoo parlors to keep the tourist industry going in north beach. it could be part of the key to getting our economy going -- tattoo shops, tourist industry. i'm a member of a small gym on balboa and la playa, derek. i think it would be hea heartbreaking to see him go out of business. i urge you to open businesses like his soon. i just got a haircut in the last week just down the street from where governor newsom works in sacramento, and it made me think of all the protocols they take to ensure our safety.

thank y i think they should be allowed to reopen. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. we have five callers in the queue. welcome, caller. >> hi. my name is susie horn. i'm a firefighter in san francisco. i'm calling for the safe and immediate reopening of tattoo shops. i've gotten tattooed in the city for the past ten years, and these people are -- these artists are the soul of our city, and i hate to see them having to leave the city, so i just encourage -- i encourage you to take this into consideration, and i appreciate your time. >> clerk: thank you for your comments and for keeping our community safe. next speaker, please. welcome, caller. you have up to two minutes.

hello, caller? welcome. okay. operations? >> hello. my name is zachary, and i live in the mission district, and i apologize if this is not the right time to bring this up rngs b, but i'm totally in support of the tattoo shops opening up. i can absolutely find no information on when the libraries are opening up. i volunteer with the mutual aid program, so i'm talking requwi lots of seniors on a daily basis, none of whom have access to the internet and all the vital services that they require. there are a lot of senior citizens in the city that haven't yet gotten their stimulus check because they

haven't filed, and as a non-filer, they need a computer to be able to do. great that tattoo shops are going to be reopening, but how are we going to be getting senior citizens access to the internet? >> clerk: we have two speakers in the queue. if you are interested in getting in the line, press star-three, to get in the queue. the end of the line will go very quickly. next caller, please. >> good morning. i'm bobbie lopez calling in support of the resolution under item 24. take our word from the senate's own legislative analyst who, in their may 22 senate housing report stated while the vote is intended to incentivize the

building of more units, this may have the result of reducing affordable housing units. this bill will have a very specific unintended consequence because the bottom line for developers, building higher income means higher return. this bill is being discussed on thursday, and let's not undo all the progress being made by local housing activists. say no to 1085 or amend 1085, and thank you so much, supervisors, for your leadership. >> clerk: thank you, bobbie. hope you're doing well. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. this is the last call for speakers. we have three speakers in the queue.

welcome, caller. >> hello. >> clerk: hi, welcome. >> hi. is this me? >> clerk: yes, it's you. >> hello, board of supervisors. my name is arturo, and i want to begin with ten seconds of silence in honor of the people who pass away from covid-19. dear board members, do not ignore the taxi industry. this matter is bad for us. the financial situation is bad. we need to talk with san

francisco credit union and tell them to help us. we want to say thank you to the supervisor ryan for the 1825 that will be helpful. i hope that they will help us. i want to say thank you to everybody, and they want to congratulate mr. peskin for his birthday tomorrow. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments, sir. all right. operations, next speaker, please. welcome, caller. you'll have up to two minutes. >> hi there. my name is martin, and i'm a small business owner here in san francisco and a tattoo collector. i have been going to get tattoos for years, and i can assure you that their practices for hygiene and cross contamination should be followed by every other

business type in san francisco. in fact, when the covid crisis first started, my cannabis dispensary was having a hard time finding p.p.e. and hand sanitizer and bacteriaal cleaning equipment, and i asked my local tattoo shops if they had anything they could share because all shops were closed, and they provided me with antibacterial cleaning agents and latex glovest for me to protect myself and my customers. so i'm impressed on how clean tattoo shops are. they cleanup after every single client, thoroughly clean the stations, and i just think they should be allowed to reopen because they're actually one of the most hygienically clean businesses in the city.

thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. there are two callers in the queue. next caller, please. welcome, caller. >> this is just in regards to item 28, dr. aragon. i just wanted to speak on reopening tattoo shops. it's a matter of hygienic safety, and i just want to help push it forward for our community to start working and help the economy in san francisco because everyone really wants to get tattooed, and that's about it. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments, sir. all right. i think we have another caller on the line.

welcome, caller. >> hello? let me start with i'd like to voice my support for our local f.b.i. for the hard work that they've been doing for a number of years in regards to the public corruption in san francisco. i would like to urge that two prominent san franciscans -- or used to be san franciscans, they should turn themselves in before they are publicly humiliated later on in the process, so i'm kind of talking on their above, that they should turn themselves in, speak what they know in the investigation, and then, we'll all have the complete story. in fact in my opinion, once the complete story is known, it'll be a great t.v. movie because it spans so many years in the

history of san francisco, and i expect it will all come out. also, i'd like to make a friendly reminder to the city attorney that there is a certain file still sitting in his office that has not been publicly disclosed. i think if he's really serious about public corruption, he should at least disclose the file and let everybody determine whether that person is not guilty or guilty. i think the public should at least have a chance to see the file rather than having it being hidden overall these years. and also, one more thing is that the ethics commission still needs a lot of work, and if ed lee's legacy is to be heard, i think we should have a public discussion of that because i think his legacy is slowly but surely changing. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your

comments. we're going to thank all the callers who called today while operations checks if there are any other callers in the queue. operations? >> operator: madam clerk, that completes the queue. >> clerk: okay. thank you. mr. president? sblie sbie -- [please stand by]

>> let's just take a motion, mr. president, to rescind the vote and we'll save the time. >> the motion made to rescind the vote. >> second. >> role call.

>> on motion through 4-27, supervisor mar. >> aye. >> supervisor peskin. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> supervisor ronen. >> aye. >> supervisor safaye. >> ayep. >> supervisor stephanie. >> aye. >> supervisor walton. >> aye. >> supervisor yee. >> aye. >> supervisor fewer. >> aye. >> supervisor ha iriney. >> aye. >> supervisor mandelman. >> there are 11 ayes.

>> let's go to number 24, supervisor peskin. >> thank you, president yee and colleagues. >> there president -- sorry, i'll just read the items to the public. item 24, resolution to oppose california state senate bill number 1085, authored by senator nancy skinner and to amend 25 for the local planning and affordable housing tools. >> thank you, president yee. and thank you colleagues and my apologies for not suffering that in my discussion and thank you to the members of the public who have weighed in over the last hour and a half. with regard to item 24, i would like to regale all of your colleagues and members of the public with the long history

that starts in the year 2001 when my then colleague, supervisor mark leno, later on senator mark leno, to have the first inclusion housing policy as a matter of law in the city and county of san francisco at 10% and that number went up and down over time and, unfortunately, in the year 2012 was ensconced in the charter in the year 2016, in the month of june and the voters of san francisco voted on a charter amendment authored by then supervisor jane kim, coauthored by this supervisor that took that out of the charter and has returned this to a dynamic instrument in san francisco and the measure that is before us today opposes a piece of state

legislation that would otherwise preempt our local inclusionary housing ordinance particularly around the bonus as it relates to in-lieu fees on state bonus density units and i want to thank all of my colleagues. i think that almost every member of the board of supervisors has affixed their name as a cosponsor to this resolution urging our senator or actually berkley senator nancy skinner and our delegation to drop this or oppose this. so thank you to, i think, almost every member of the board for your cosponsorship. with that, mr. president, i turn it back to you. >> thank you very much,

supervisor peskin an. i will let you know now that i will cosponsor. madam clerk,con you call role on this, please. >> on item 24 -- (role call). >> are 11 ay session.

es. >> ithis is adopted nancy unani. this is item 28. >> since we rescinded the vote, we take 25-27 and we don't forget those items. >> thanks for reminding me. let's take a vote on 25, 26 and 27. >> supervisor mar on 25-27. >> aye. >> supervisor peskin. >> aye. >> supervisor preston. >> aye. >> supervisor ronen. >> aye. >> supervisor safaye. >> aye. >> supervisor stephanie. >> aye. >> supervisor walton. >> aye.

>> supervisor yee. >> aye. >> supervisor fewer. >> aye. >> supervisor hainey. >> aye. >> supervisor mandleman. >> aye. >> there are 11 ayes. >> madam clerk, number 28. >> item 28 is a motion to support the health officer's attestation for a local variance, to allow san francisco to progress further into california's covid-19 resilience roadmap as the health officer determined, is appropriate on local health conditions and preparing a letter of support. >> ok, colleagues, these items before us today is with the department of public health is applying for cutting a variance to allow the county health

officer and the department of public health more discretion to move more quickly or differently than what was laid out by the state's roadmap for reopening. as you may or may not know, we are one of the few counties left that have not gotten a variance. the vast majority have done so. and we recognize that this is a very important step forward to allow local flexibility and we have to support reopening our businesses and returning people to work, but in the safest way possible. we also need to ensure that we are able to contain and prepare for any potential uptakes in the spread of the virus. in order to apply for this, the

county must meet health and safety criteria on containing covid-19 and including in their application a letter of support for thfrom the county board of supervisors. that is what we are deliberating today, on the motion from the board to direct the clerk to submit a letter of support for this variance application. colleagues, we are joined today by an office at the thomas aragon, must be the most popular guy with tattoo businesses. i have to reread it. i thought this was about him, but evidently it wasn't. and, also, dr. susan philip, the director of public health,

dr. kolfax and assessor, recorders carmen chu from the economic recovery task force and i want to welcome back from former katie tang, who is now serving the city in the different capacity, supporting the department of public health during this time. if there's no objection, then we will allow them the opportunity to provide a brief presentation about the variance application and then, we will open up for discussion and i know that we are also previously submitted some questions that's been collected and we gave those questions to dr. aragon and dr. kolfax, i believe, and hopefully, in your presentation, you can answer as many of those as possible.

and just s for the sake of time. i don't know who's going first. is it dr. aragon? you're up first. >> it will be dr. kolfax who will lead off. >> ok. >> hi, good evening, supervisors and grant kolfax, director of health for the city and county. and i want to thank you for your ongoing leadership and support during these unprecedented times of the covid-19 pandemic here in our city. i just have a couple of slides. could we go to the next slide, please. so as we enter a new phase of the public health crisis, we have begun reopening parts of our economy. but covid-19 continues to be a major threat and, indeed, there's more virus circulating

in the community than ever before. in this new normal we are in, we must balance the completing need between protecting covid-19 and the consequences of sheltering in place. today, and until we have a vaccine or effective treatment, the safest thing to do to avoid infection is to remain at home. but for many, this is not sustainable for months on end. as we reopen various sectors, we are operating under a shared risk framework with the understanding that we have not yet safe from the virus. and we must all assess our own risk tolerance for certain activity and the degree to which we put ourselves and others at risk. people in sanfrancisco have done a great job and our collective work must continue to reduce

spread. wear face coverings, practise hygiene and don't go to work if you're sick. there must also be an understanding that cases and hospitalizations of covid-19 patients will likely increase as shelter-in-place lifts. our goal is to keep the rate of spread low and the curb as flat as possible. our goal includes reducing morbidity and mortality as much as possible. and yet, a surge is still very possible, including one that overwhelms our healthcare system despite our efforts and vigilance. of course, we all hope that does not happen. and given the uncertainty of the viruses' effects on our community, we need to be as flexible and use data and met armetrics is to all of this, we

must protect our most vulnerable community and that is why it's so important that our decisions are made through an equity lense. next slide. so far, the decisions we have made have allowed san francisco to slow the spread of the virus. as you can see on this slide, san francisco's success is evidenced in comparison to many other communities. cases and the number of deaths are well below counties like los angelos and jurisdictions like philadelphia and new york city. this is due to regulations, guidance and infrastructure that we have put in place since the beginning of the pandemic. most important, these data reflect the actions and support of sanfranciscans. we have been able to ramp up

testing in a way that many other communities have not been able to do so, a. as you can see on this slide, our rates higher than philadelphia, new york city or los angelos. that is why we are here today, to continue to move forward, expanding our efforts, doing everything we can to protect each other and the community as we go to in next phase and also understanding that there is a shared risk as we move into this next phase of our pandemic response. so now, i would like to turn it over to dr. aragon to explain the various requests today. thank you. >> thank you. >> next slide, please. good evening, supervisors. i'm the health officer of san francisco and the director of the population health division at the san francisco department

of public health. i'll just give you a very brief history of how varients came about. if you require, there were rural counties that had very low burden of infections and no deaths. and so, they really pressured the state to give them a pathway go ahead and open up. so what the state did initially, they allowed -- they created what is called a variance to allow rural counties to go ahead and apply to start opening things up before other counties and then what happened next is that other parts of california, not the urban areas, but the more suburban areas, some of the more rural areas, they wanted to have access to be able to open up and the state was concerned if they started allowing too many counties to open up without verifying that they're well prepared, that would not be a good idea.

so then the second version of variance came about and that was to have counties attest to the preparedness to respond to covid so that they're in the position as they open up to be able to mitigate the risk. and so, when that happened, that variance took on a different form and what the state ended up doing, they created two buckets. one bucket was here is what you can do state-wide and it had a very small list of activities to do state-wide and the other bucket was called the variance bucket. and what became pretty clear is that if you did not apply for a variance, you could not access any of the activities in the variance bucket. initially, across the state, there was a thinking that the state would eventually go at its own pace, but the state has actually shifted, shifted to the current framework, which is here is what you can do state-wide

and here is what the variance counties can do. but that list is not going to move over to the state-wide bucket. and so if we ever want to open any activity in the variance bucket, we have to apply for a variance. just to give you a quick idea, a few things. for example, dine-in restaurants, hair salons and barber shops, a family entertainment centers like movies, winery, bars, zoos, museums, gyms and fitness centers, hotels, and then all of the personal services from the nail salons, body art, tattoos, piercing, massage and all of those and so, basically, this is one of the reasons we have to apply for a variance so we can access those and then take it through our process of deciding how we're going to open them up in a safe manner. next slide. and so, i think i've summarized

why the variance is really critical for us, is that we need to be able to look at everything we're able to work with and then go through the process that -- as mr. carmen chu will take you through what the recovery task force does to help restratify and basically, it will give us the power and the flexibility to do it in a way that will work for us, make sure that we align with what's happening in other bay area counties and most of the other bay area counties are applying for variances, as well, because they're in the same situation that we're in. and so, that's really the most important thing that i want to really emphasize today. so i think it's very important for us to really make sure that we get this submitted and we're going to meet all of the criteria and i'll go over that in a second. and you'll see that we're going to continue to take a very

thoughtful approach and also, as we move into this new phase really involved more stakeholders, we have been in a response mode and now we're transitioning into, as the economy opens up, that we're transitioning into a different planning mode. and so input from the board of supervisors will be critical as we move forward. next slide. and so, the readiness criteria, basically what they want us to do is that want us to address all of these criteria. it doesn't mean that we have to have met every single one of them. they want us either to show we've met them or that we're planning to meet them. and just to quickly take you through a few of those. under the epidemiology criteria, which is the first one, those we have met in terms of hospitalizations and the percent of testing that is positive. and in terms of protection for

stage one, essential workers, evacuee donwe've done a tremendt on guidance to help protect the workforce and that's one of the reasons it's labor intensive because a lot of work goes into making sure that we develop best practises that can be implemented by businesses. and in terms of testing capacity, we're actually -- we just learned from the state that we're one of the biggest testers in the state. we're pu surpassed our current goal. there's a lot more to do but in terms of the benchmark we passed it. in terms of containment, same thing. when you look at the draft plan, right now for contact tracing, we're a little bit above what is being required of us. they say 15 staff for 100,000 and terms of active works, we have 16. in terms of housing for persons

experiencing homelessness -- and they were prescriptive on how we make these calculations. we used january count of 5,032 hotel units available, we can meet up to 30% of the need of that population and the requirement is that we be able to house 15%. >> mr. president, i'm sorry to interrupt, but -- and with all respect, which i mean sincerely to dr. aragon, should i hold my questions? because he's speaking very -- bs speaking very quickly, to the end -- or as he's speaking, mr. president? what is your will.

you're on mute, mr. president. >> i would prefer him to finish up his presentation and have whoever else present. >> i will hold my questions until the end. i am making notes, and dr. aragon, evacuee go we've gog but time so if you can slow down, that would be great. >> there are other speakers coming, as well. and the numbers that i'm quoting are on our san francisco data tracker and you can go there and look under alternative housing and, basically, those are the numbers that we're using. and in terms of hospital capacity, san francisco has been very fortunate that we have been able to be prepared for surge and so we're going to meet that one and we're getting at the station from the different

hospitals. and in the category under vulnerable populations, the focus there was on skilled nursing facilities and killed sd nursing facility is an important area in general. it represents 50% of all deaths and pretty much across the united states and in san francisco, we've been very fortunate that we've had a very small number of deaths from the skilled nursing facilities compared to most places. and so we're doing routine testing with staff and workers on a regular interval of every two to four weeks and in that category, we're doing well. in the timeline, professor carmen chu will take you through that and one important point here is that we have opened up what we're able to open up without a variance and so that's

why we need to apply for the variance so that we can access the other categories that we want to be able to access. and the other thing that was announced today by dr. kolfax, is that we've developed -- this is also on our state data tracker where we've taken the data and we've developed a colored coded system to help the public understand how we're going to be monitoring the epidemic. and it focuses on three categories which is disease situation, healthcare system and then disease control. and the most important categories that we focus on, which is hospitalizations and how quickly hospitalizations increase, that's the most stable indicater of how bad the pandemic is going. and also how fast hospitalizations are occurring is the earliyest warning that things are turning bad and that will be the most sensitive and specific indicater we have.

one of the challenges is the number of cases tends to be partially driven by how much testing you do. and so, we're looking at that, as well. we're looking at certain indicators, for example, the amount of ppe, and testing. and so that's that category. the last one i want to mention and dr. susan philip is available, the one who will be doing an overview of the containment plan, if we have time to do that. and so the containment plan has a long list of categories here and as i mentioned before, we have been focusing primarily on response. we're beginning to do planning on how we're going to do containment as we open up because we know infections will increase. we know that in the fall and in the winter, we'll have our surge

of respiratory viral infections. kids will be going back to school and people will be going back to work and we have to shift on how we'll plan for containment. and this containment plan, as part of the at the station, is something we'll work closely with stakeholders and the board of supervisors is a critical stakeholder as we develop these plans and we really look forward to working with the board of supervisors. i want to just acknowledge the success that we've had in san francisco has really been -- i think we've been successful because of the tremendous amount of contribution that everybody has made and i really want to acknowledge the role of the board of supervisors. you all have been very supportive of all of the decisions that we've made -- most of the decisions we have made and i think that's really important because it really sends a message to the folks in

san francisco that we're doing the right thing. when you see the tension in other parts of the california, where, you know, some the public health officials are quitting, getting fired because there is strong disagreement with the elected officials, i feel fortunate to be in sanfranciscoo where we have received a who've amount of support from the board of supervisors and i want to show my gratitude. i'm going to be turning it over to carmen chu, which the economic recovery task force and as carmen will explain, has played a really important role in this next phase. so assessor chu, i will turn it over to you. >> mr. president, wil while i he great and abiding respect for my former board of supervisor's colleague, carmen chu, i think this would be the right moment

with all respect, mr. president, to ask our chief health officer questions. and i'm prepared to do so, but i don't want to interrupt the flow of a power-point presentation. but i think that, sir, i respectfully suggest that this be a moment where we can actually ask the chief officer, not my former colleague, our current recorder some questions. >> i can see that you're ready to get off your chair, so i'll be flexible and i want to be respectful of my colleagues when they're being passionate about their questions. i probably have a question or two in regards to this presentation. so why don't we do that and so let's open it up and not just to you supervisor, peskin, but

anybody else our colleagues, if you have questions of dr. arag dr. aragon. >> i will defer to any other members of the elected body, including you, mr. president. i have two questions to reserve to the end. i assume thaw an that you and my colleagues have other questions. >> mine probably could be answered simply. dr. arago thanks. n. >> so the issue of contact tracing, we seem to have the minimum number of people that can actually perform that and, like i said, we're, like, 16 for every 100,000, so 15. so my concern is that some of the people that are doing this

or will be doing this are dsw's or workers that are barred from other departments. as we start opening up, we're going to still have the capacity. >> so, we have 143 that are currently active and there's another 157 that have also been trained and the person who is really one of the key leads for the contact tracing is dr. susan philip and i believe she's on the line, so she may be able to add anything. dr. philip. if you're not on mute. >> thank you, thank you, dr. aragon and thank you to the board and president yee. thank you. and contact tracing, we have 143 active staff and we have been working with the etc eoc to fige

out what we're doing going forward. once they're trained, it's a valuable resource and we're pleased many of the department have. working with us and the staff can continue to do this. and so the philosophy that we're going to use is to have a core untinumber of staff and a core t are trained and ready to be deployed quickly in case we do see aering. anothea surge.we are moving del. we don't want to have just a large workforce, but we know having linqual abilities are important. we know 50% is in spanish and we need to work closely with the community and make sure we're training and incorporating from community to have the best output of this work.

>> what's your capacity for chinese? >> we also have bilingual chinese speakers and i will find the exact number and let you know. >> and, also, if you're added, go ahead and read the numbers or the percentage of them of currently out many interviews are conducted in the chinese language? supervisor preston? >> thank you, president yee. doctor, i have heard some concerns from healthcare workers and those who represent them regarding not being a part of the discussions around this. obviously, there's a risk of

increased burden on our healthcare providers, which, of course, we all are trying our best to minimize. but can you just describe your consultation with healthcare workers or their union leadership in formulating this request, if any, to the board? >> yes, so right now, in terms of preparing our containment plan, that's exactly what we plan to do, is we do have to involve stakeholders and we will be sure to include both labor, as well as, as i mentioned earlier, all of you. >> and so, have they not been consulted in connection with this request but will be in terms of the orders that flow from it? >> so san francisco county, it's

a little bit different. what happened with healthcare, all of healthcare across california shut down together and what happened was that in san francisco, we ended up opening up -- healthcare opened up very quickly in california, because really, it was driven by the state level and they allowed elective surgeries and then they said -- they said most healthcare can continue and in sanfrancisco, we moved a bit slower because we spent time looking over the guidances that were published by the cdc and the state. we took the existing guidances and made sure that as we opened up, that we made sure that was implemented and we did that as directives and then through our information and guidance, our information and guidance process reaches out to different stakeholders. an example that happened recently with a dentist, for example. we spent a significant amount of

time working with a dentist, to make sure he would work with them and our ambulatory care, we worked primarily with our information and guidance that has a team of physicians that works with other stakeholders. we didn't specifically work with the labor unions around that, but one of the reasons why we had to move quickly is because the state had already opened up those components and we were weeks behind and we really had to move quickly. so we focused on implementing the existing guidelines from the state and the cdc. >> and if i could -- so i appreciate -- thank you for the answer and i was asking something and maybe i wasn't clear. like a little broader. i wasn't talking about just the reopening of medical services. and you know, my concern is that as we are talking about reopening, we are certainly hearing loud and clear from the small business community.

we're hearing from a lot of stakeholders and these things have implications, also, for our healthcare workers in terms of what they're going to be seeing, whether in their emergency rooms at their testing facilities and so forth and i want to make sure that they are -- i believe that's the concern that was being raised to me, perhaps, to other supervisors. so what i'm trying to -- if i could reask. i'm trying to figure out, were they consulted in putting together this variance request? if not, is there a plan to involve them before issuing, in the upcoming days, before issuing the various reopening to orders that you're considering. >> yes, so in the upcoming orders, there's no healthcare orders coming out.

so if you look at what's available on the variance list, there's nothing that has to do with healthcare. what is important around healthcare is really the preparation of the healthcare system in terms of personal protective equipment, all of the infection control guidances applied. and then, the ability for hospitals to surge should we have a surge. and so, yeah, there's a tremendous amount of effort in that area, but it's not really related at all to the variance. the variance won' itself won't e impacting healthcare. it will be these industries. >> and i don't want to belabor the point. i think when we're talking about the variance, my understanding is that the variance gives you the power to, then, open certain businesses, everything from tattoo parlors that are

discussed and those have a potential impact on how many cases are going to end up -- i mean, there's a level of risk sorteassociated with that and im making a point that healthcare workers should be a part of those discussions, as much as the small businesses and others impacted. and to the extent that has not occurred, which to me, it sounds like it has not, i'm requesting as you move through this process, that they are consulted before orders are issued. and a related question is, what is the timing here? so if you could just address number one, will they be consulted before various reopening orders are issued? is there a commitment to consult with frontline healthcare workers around these decisions, number one? number two, what is the time frame, if you submit this

variance, for example, how soon after that are you able to issue some of the follow-up orders? >> yes, so the first one, yeah, we will absolutely meet with the appropriate stakeholders, including healthcare workers and i think that it's different for each industry. for example, you heard a lot of testimony today from people who do tattoos, that there, think, it's primarily engaging the tattoo professionals because it's really about understanding how they do their practises and then we work with infection control experts and occupational health experts and the people who do the frontline work, but it varies with each industry and we're open speaking to healthcare workers if you think that will help us with some of the area. s. the second part of your

question? i'm sorry. >> just the timeline between -- so if we support this request of yours for the variance and what is the timeline in terms of when that's granted and when you can issue the orders pursuant to the newest orders? >> what will happen is that the state, what they did was that they had things that were categorized in stage three, which were months away. in our initial assessment, we just put things in different buckets. for example, you heard today the tattoo artist talking about them being put into august. and those personal services were put there because that's where the state put them initially. it state put them as stage three and now with the new variance, the state is saying, ok, you can

now coul do it starting june 19. so now what we have to do is once we have access, we will have to go back to the drawing board and look ating in a holistic way and apply the risk stratification framework that professor chu will assess how we're going to restratify in sequence all of the of the difft industries. we don't want to do everything once. but we look at both the activity, how many people are involved, doing the lowest risk things first and the highest risk things second. if it's an industry with a small number and it can be done safely, that may be moved up because we think it may not have a big impact because it doesn't have a big number. that gives you an idea of how to look at everything. is the process really involving

the economic recovery task force, economic of workforce development and a team of people who have a much better understanding of how businesses work on the ground. and then the last thing i just want to mention, as we move forward, we're going to continue to monitor carefully our health indicators to make sure that we don't get in trouble. anyways the other important reason for sequencing, giving us time to see whether what we did two or three weeks ago is having an impact and that's one of the reasons why you see things spread out over weeks and not done all at once. >> since we had a lot of callers on the tattoo shop issue, can

you explain, without a variance, when are they able to open? >> without a variance, we would not be able to open tattoo parlors and we don't know when we would be allowed. and that's where the state shifted. i hear an echo. so yeah, all of the things in the variance bucket, all things i read to you, we would not be able to do any of them and we have no idea when the state will allow us to do it. so we would be stuck and i think that's why the bay area counties are now shifting because the state has really shifted how it's using the variance and so we realize that we don't want to fall behind and not be able to open up industries safely and so the state put us in the situation that we really have to apply for a variance if we want

to open up all of the things that i read to you. >> thank you and lots more questions, but i know my colleagues have questions, too, and i will end there. thank you. >> supervisor peskin, you're next. >> thank you. not to put too fine a point on it, but it's my understanding that the variance and attestation are granted, everything still remains in your hands. again, not to put too fine a point on it, but do you support this legislative body, which is a political body, which is a representative body, giving you that power wherein you will have

remarkable powers as a chief health officer under the laws of the state of the california and do you support this variance? >> i absolutely support this variance, yes. >> thank you for that. and then you said earlier that you have -- i don't want to put words in your mouth -- but i believe that you said that you have no plans to issue upcoming orders. what does that mean? >> oh, that had to do with medical care. yeah, the only orders that we've issued in medical care are elective surgeries, which we allowed to continue. and ambulatory care and then dentistry. >> revives order of today? >> yes, the ow only ones -- so s

far as i know, there won't be any more orders specific to the healthcare industry that i can think of at th the moment. >> so that was only around the healthcare industry? >> right, because supervisor preston was asking about including a healthcare labor and so there's no orders coming up that would be impacting healthcare labor. so that's what i was referring to. >> i'm saw. i interpreted that in a much broader way. and so in that same larger context, in what situations would you consider departing from the state's industry guidance in order to expedite a particular industry? we talked about the tattoo industry and, of course, you and i are both quite aware, by way of example, the hotel industry has been lobbying city officials both on the worker's side and on

the ownership side to accelerate or not accelerate reopening for tourists and at the same time, the worker's side, there is great fear that it may not be safe for the workers and guests alike and how do you approach and sort out those kind of questions? >> yeah. so at one level -- so i tried to stay in my lane in terms of my expertise. i really try to focus on the public health issues and focusing on infection control and interrupting transmission and i am not an expert in all of these different industries and so, i really have turned to people -- especially the office of economic workforce development, they have access to people who are in the frontlines and really having them

develop -- and this is what carmen will explain, the risk stratification framework and using that and a tool that was developed by john's hopkins university, and used by l.a. county as a way to look across industries, look at how much contact, what the duration and can you mitigate risk and then go through and score these and develop a spreadsheet that has these stratified by risk. you'll see that in the way things are rolling out -- for example, you'll see most of the things we've allowed up to this point have been outdoor activities and then we're going to move to indoor activities. and that's basically following that risk stratification framework. that's happening at that level because i don't feel like i have the exper expertise to understae nitty-gritty of how they operate.

we take the guidances from the cdc and we look at those and say, how do we implement this in san francisco, making sure that we do it in a way that's going to have its biggest impact? and so, the way that is being done, there's one order which is the shelter-in-place order that's been done and what's updated with this are these aparticula apparticularthese ape social distancing, environmental disinfection applieses across the countries and we make sure they're aware of the directives and we add an additional directive if there's anything specific to that industry.

so with dentist industry, we had to work with a dental team to really understand what the risk inside a dental office and how to mitigate the risk. we have to go through the whole process and at the end of the day, we want to make sure that these state and cdc guidances get operationallized in san francisco with really good quality. and i -- i would say we're putting more effort than most counties and many are saying, go for it. go read the state guidelines and open up and that's what i believe one of the reasons why you're seeing a lot of counties in trouble and you see places across the country in trouble because people are implementing things without going through the time that it takes to make sure that things really get implemented in the way that --

more likely to work. so that is the process. it's labor intensive and you'll see as you go through the core application. there's appendixes that go with that and the whole application will be close to 100 pages. so that's in a nutshell how the process works. i try to really stay focused on the public health principles and that is how we do it. i know that i have three supervisors behind me in the queue. quickly, relative to the number of epidemiology at dph, how many are there and how many are being devoted to covid-19 right now? do you know the anticipation to?

>> i do not know the answer to that. i can tell you that we have a lot of vacancies and we're desperately trying to fill these and we need to fill our vacancies because a big component moving forward is really strengthening our surveillance system. so we have a good surveillance system now but we're going to anticipate there will be more cases and we want more epidemiologists to do investigations of outbreaks. right, but do you have a ballpark idea of how many epi's you have and how many are working on covid-19, like ballpark? >> i'm not sure in susan knows. in the population health division, where all of the epidemiologthey allly,they're o,

they're on hiv grants and the number, i guess, maybe 15. it's not a big number. most of them are std grants and they'll have to go back to work on grant deliverables. and we have a small number and we have quite a few vacancies right now. (please stand by).

. >> then you have your investigation component. investigation component is an idea we really have to build our capacity. if we start seeing cases going up, we have to be able to deploy and do rapid case

control studies to be able to figure out who is this -- who is this -- where is this happening, in what population, and if we can't figure out why this is happening, we have to be able to quickly deploy and do analytics study to be able to determine what that is. that is what i would call the epidem epidemiological component, our s.n.f.s, housing, and poison control. and since you mentioned our reproductive number, that's one of the numbers that you looked

at. i think you saw in the chron chronicle -- i think it was yesterday's chronicle that showed that san francisco was doing the best in terms of opening up. for us, we used maya peterson's model for san francisco, and it allows us to project into the future and really have a better idea of what could happen in san francisco. so maya peterson's model has our reproductive number. that's one of the reasons our curve has been flat and declining, which is great news, and which hope we can continue in that direction. >> supervisor peskin: dr. aragon, i have many more questions, but i will yield the floor. thank you for your work and thank you for keeping people safe and careful. >> you're welcome.

>> president yee: okay. i believe it's supervisor ronen. you're next. >> supervisor ronen: oh, yes. thank you so much. dr. aragon, two questions. one is sort of similar to the one that supervisor preston was trying to ask, ask i'm not sure of the answer. assuming that the variance goes into effect, and you're looking to reopen certain industries, how much do you involve workers in that industry in the process of deciding how -- what's the safest way to reopen? >> i think assessor chu iu is going to be better prepared to answer that because i know that and also our information and guidance have been convening stakeholders to get input.

and so -- and that's -- we heard of take -- what we do is we sort of take the c.d.c. and then the state guidance, and we do our first rough draft, and we hand it over to the information and guidance. we give it over to the economic recovery task force, and they run it by folks in the -- from those industries. you'll have to ask them specifically how they do it, and then, they run it by us and they just give feedback. i'll just give you an example of feedback that came in to me was outdoor dining. they said no, it's not going to happen like that. they have to give us feedback of whether they think they can implement it. if we give people something that cannot be implemented on the ground, it does people no

good, so at the end of the day, we want to do what's going to be effective, and what's going to be effective is what can help people. >> supervisor ronen: so the example that you gave us of the dentist's offices, and all the things to reopen dentist's offices in a safeway -- >> yeah. you can imagine, i get contacted by many people, and i try to especially open, and i got overwhelmed, so we need to create -- through trial and error, we try to create a process where people -- we can

system systematiccally look at plans. for the dental society, i would say that one happened a little bit differently. when those were going out, we were behind other counties. the other counties, state has already allowed the dental society and ambulatory care to open up really quickly. just because of the amount of work we do, we fell very, very behind. that's one that i'll be honest with you, we rushed it out. and then, the feedback i got, dr dr. aragon, you don't know what you're doing. this isn't going to work, and so i met with them to figure out their issues and people sent me e-mails of the dentists and all the things that they were struggling with. it's this iterative process where i realized oh, i moved too fast, and i wish i would

have collaborated with them early on because they would have given me a reality check on a lot of these things, so that's how that happened. we did want to move to a more formalized approach meeting with community stakeholders because it didn't happen. >> supervisor ronen, can i just share some information about that engagement? >> supervisor ronen: sure. >> so as you know, the mayor and president yee convened the economic recovery task force, and one of the things that we had heard loud and clear was remember, we kicked it off in late april or so as the city was putting out guidance and other information about reopening, there was a real clear consensus about the opportunity for feedback, and sort of more transparency over

what was to come ahead. so over the next few months, we worked really hard with the department of public health to figure out how information was going out. so this last iteration where we went through the process of creating those guidances for outdoor dining and retail was really the first example of where we had this new system in place to allow for that feedback to happen. so the way that it works now, the department of public health is taking a look at the different sectors that can prepare to reopen, and when they have sort of that summary of their initial thinking, taking a look at c.d.c. information, state guidance, and so on, they put out a summary of guidances that they are thinking of making formal. what happens then is they feed that over to economic recovery task force and oewd because

oewd has a more extensive channel than we work with at the task force. and they're able to feed them the feedback saying here's what it means on an economic level. i think this last round was a more successful round because the department of public heath was able to secure that feedback. i'll just say that process of creating those guidances has, in the past, not been as clear as getting feedback in the beginning. we've since changed it, and i think we're committed to iterate and improve it. what we are hearing loud and clear today is we are involving multiple stakeholders in these processes. now what's going to happen with hotels because that guidance is

going to eventually be worked on with the department of public health is if it follows the same process, we're also going to see the same summaries through the task force. we're going to share it with our different members who are on the task force, which does include local 2, for example. they'll be able to see it, view it, provide comments in advance of when d.p.h. will actually finalize it. so i hope that that process will be a smoother one going forward that will allow multiple stakeholders to provide input to address the concerns that you were raising and supervisor preston was, as well. i hope that answers your question. >> supervisor ronen: yeah, that was very helpful, carmen. thank you. so my second question is about the homeless numbers.

what do you think about the areas where the homeless are housed that it creates a safe enough situation in the city? >> yeah. the 15%, i do not know where the 15% came from. that's just what the state put out, is at a minimum, you should have 15%, so that's where that came from. and you're asking me, do i believe that 15% is sufficient? probably -- probably not. i can -- whatever -- whatever is going to be required, their requirement is that you be -- you be able to take care of 15% of persons who are experiencing homeless with isolation and kwaur quarantine. and so from the health department's perspective, that's been our priority is to be able to isolate and quarantine. so we are doing -- right now, in terms of our current planning and our projections, we're estimating that if we were to have a big surge, we would need more isolation and

quarantine rooms, and so we would actually need to add to what our current stock is if we do have a big surge. because we do feel that we need to be able to take care of any number of persons that are homeless and you can be isolated or in quarantine. another one that the i.q. rooms are important in public health, we have to be able to decompress the hospitals. when you get discharged, we need to have places that people can go. these hotel rooms end up being important for decompressing the hospital so that hospital beds don't end up being taken up by people who don't need to be in the hospital. >> supervisor ronen: maybe i'm not understanding. so that readiness, that variance quite real estate, that's just for i.n.q. rooms,

it's not for what we're call s.i.p. rooms or shelter in place rooms? >> it's just that you have access to housing units that can take care of up to or more than 15% of persons that are experiencing homelessness. >> supervisor ronen: if they've tested positive or covid? >> yes. so for people who are close contacts or are covid positive. >> supervisor ronen: who are covid positive, right. >> supervisor ronen: and you're saying that we're at 30%? >> so the number of housing units that we have available to us at the moment on the west side, it was a number that i gave to you. so when you go on-line, we have hotel rooms and the r.v.s, right now, we have 2,532. that's being spread across

i.n.q. and then also what we're calling s.i.p. units, but those are the current number of units available to us. right now, the number of people we've needed in isolation and quarantine -- we haven't needed that number. we've been very fortunate. let me see here -- >> supervisor ronen: so -- sorry. i should always assume that 15% was to actually house during this pandemic, 15% of the county residents that are unhoused. but you're saying only if they need it, to isolate in quarantine. so how many numbers do you think we need at any given time to meet that 15%, to meet that requirement, and then do you think that's sufficient? >> i'm doing a little

calculation. >> supervisor ronen: okay. if you want to move on, we can come back -- >> no, it'll take me -- it'll take me just a second. you know, i'll just tell you, they're being very prescriptive on how to calculate this number. >> supervisor ronen: okay. >> so they're saying that we would need 1,200 rooms, basically. >> supervisor ronen: that are i.n.q. rooms, so we're building a lot of those rooms that are permanent s.i.p. rooms. >> yeah, they're permanent s.i.p. rooms. and if we did have a big surge, we would have to get more rooms because they're not going to -- we're not going to -- i'm just speaking now from a very practical perspective. people who are in s.i.p. rooms, we're not going to have them leave a s.i.p. room, we'll probably get more i.n.q. rooms. >> supervisor ronen: so sorry.

do you know how many i.n.q. rooms we have right now? >> right now, i believe we have -- i -- i think we have close to 200, and right now, we have 163 that are being used. >> supervisor ronen: so we're way below the 1,000 number? >> right now, because -- well, we would not -- it would be -- we would not be holding 1200 rooms and having 1,000 of them unoccupied if you only have 163 people. so the number of people that need i.n.q. is very small, and those rooms end up being used for other things, so the biggest reason those rooms are being used for -- >> supervisor ronen: is the s.i.p. rooms. >> is the s.i.p. rooms, that's right. >> supervisor ronen: so technically, we don't qualify for the variance because we don't have the number of rooms

that they require. i mean, i see what you're saying in terms of that money, but -- so what you're saying -- >> no, what they say is that we have access to -- access to housing units. we have access to those housing units, and so that's really the most important thing because it would -- it would -- it would be -- it would be illogical for us to hold 1200 rooms and have 1,000 of them just sitting there empty so we can say we qualify. i think everybody would say, well, why are you leaving them empty? you have to do something with those rooms. we're stuck in a good situation in that the demand for i.n.q. rooms is very low because we've been really fortunate. we've been really of the, but we do have -- but the thing is we do have access to the

housing units which actually represent 30% of the homeless -- the homeless count. and then, from a very practical operational perspective, if we do have a large surge, i know we would look to get other rooms because we're not going to displace people for obvious reasons. >> supervisor ronen: but you know the mayor's office has been telling us the office, that all of those 60-year-olds and people with dangerous medical conditions living on the streets right now, that there's no capacity despite our unanimously passed ordinance to require it to get hotel rooms. so how would we magically get these hotel rooms if we can't get them right now for the people that are very vulnerable on the streets? >> i can't speak for the mayor. i'm just telling you -- i'm giving you my understanding.

>> supervisor ronen: okay. once again, you know, not -- not to continue to -- to -- to beat the drum that we've been beating the whole time, but we get very, very contradictory information from -- from you and from the mayor's office on rooms for homeless. first, you tell us you have more rooms, then, when we set up the criteria, you say you're not meeting criteria. and we say what would you do if you get a surge, and you say we would get more rooms. but we're not getting more rooms for the seniors and people thiliving on our street >> yeah. i feel bad because, really, i think the best persons to ask is really going to be h.s.a.

and h.s.h. i'm giving you -- i'm just giving you my honest -- my honest understanding, and i know that because we're doing -- we were adoing the planning right now, we're doing our scenario planning for a surge, and i can just tell you just from my personal perspective, that's just the way we're thinking about it. i can't tell you how it's actually going to play out. i think you need to talk to other folks. >> supervisor ronen: director aragon, you're asking me to okay a variance. i very much want tattoo establishments to open and etc., but what you have just now explained to me is we don't have 15% of the rooms available if there is a surge for i.n.q., and you're telling me you have complete confidence that we won't kick out people in s.i.p. rooms, but the mayor's office has been telling us that that's

not possible. so is there someone from the mayor's office that can answer my question? >> i'm confident based on the housing units that we have right now, we meet the criteria. >> supervisor ronen: you mean, the 30,000 empty hotel rooms? what are these housing units that you're talking about. >> right now, if you go to our website -- >> supervisor ronen: but they're filled. they're s.i.p. rooms. they're being filled with people from the tenderloin. they're not empty. you just said that, and i -- >> yeah, so right now, i'm -- i'm -- i'll admit it, i'm hyperfocused on getting the variance because i think the variance is going to be good for the city, it's going to be good for the workers -- [inaudible] >> and so -- but supervisor

ronen, the -- we're double what the criteria requires. >> supervisor ronen: but we aren't -- no, no. >> president yee: okay. one talk at a time. >> yeah. the criteria does not require us to have 1200 rooms and have most of them empty because that doesn't make sense to me. i'm trying to understand that. >> supervisor ronen: but doctor -- sorry. can you still -- i'm not trying to not make sense but apparently, you don't understand me. those rooms are filled with people that are 60 years old or have very serious health conditions that make them vulnerable. there are a lot more living on the streets, risking their lives every day. right now, the mayor entered into a stipulated settlement agreement promising to moffve least 300 people from the tenderloin into those s.i.p.

rooms. now you're telling me if there's a surge, which very much could happen because we are reopening the economy and it's all the warnings you just gave us, you said that you're confident that we're not going to kick people out of s.i.p. rooms, but that we're going to secure more hotel rooms. the mayor has been telling us that she can't obtain more hotel rooms, that that's not possible, that our ordinance is completely unrealistic, that we don't have the staffing and the money. there's a new excuse every week. you're providing me different information than the mayor's office. i very much want to vote for this, but if voting for this means you might kick people out of s.i.p. rooms, that's a very different matter that we on the board of supervisors need to think about. >> president yee: supervisor ronen, i'm not sure, but i think miss kitler may be on the

line. miss kitler, are you on the line? >> yes, supervisor ronen, through the president, i do understand your question. i do not have an answer for it. i think as dr. aragon said, h.s.a. is the best person to answer that. >> supervisor ronen: can you get them here? i want to vote on this ordinance today, but i can't vote for it if you're going to kick people out of s.i.p. rooms or you're telling us that our ordinance is unrealistic. i can't vote on this. can you get someone here on this? this seems to be a real basic question on the criteria of the variance. it's the criteria you have up on the screen right now. >> supervisor ronen, whether or not you vote for this variance is not going to impact what we're talking about, which is a

surge, so i -- i'm -- i hope -- yeah. it's not going to impact -- if a surge is going to happen, it's going to happen whether or not you vote on this variance. the variance is really about allowing parts of the economy to open up, and -- so -- >> supervisor ronen: you don't think opening up the economy -- you just started this presentation -- dr. colfax started this entire presentation saying as we reopen the economy, more people are going to be infected by covid-19. that's what you -- that's what dr. colfax said at the very beginning of this presentation. >> you're correct. you're absolutely right. i'm sorry. you are absolutely correct. >> supervisor ronen: i am so confused. we can go onto our other colleagues as we wait for someone from the mayor's office to actually answer our question. >> president yee: i actually don't see anybody else on the roster. >> supervisor ronen: well, i don't know that i can vote for

someone when very basic information about the criteria, they can't answer really basic straightforward questions about. >> president yee: supervisor fewer just went on the line. supervisor fewer? >> supervisor fewer: i'm just wondering if this is an item that can be continued for next week? i just think that if there is specific questions and colleagues feel very strongly about getting answers to these questions, i think it's not right holding a vote when there are some colleagues that obviously want questions and -- questioned answered, and if the people aren't here to answer those questions, then perhaps the presentation would not -- [inaudible] >> president yee: is that a motion -- >> supervisor ronen: could i comment on that, president yee?

>> president yee: supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: if we continue this for a week, is that going to impact these businesses that are dying? >> president yee: well, i believe so. i shouldn't answer that in this conversation. [inaudible] >> supervisor fewer: dr. aragon, if this item were to be delayed to next week to get people here to answer the questions, would that delay these businesses from opening up? >> it would delay it, yes, because we want to start working on this as soon as possible. >> supervisor ronen: i mean, is there no one from the mayor's office who can come in and answer our questions because i don't want to delay this, i really don't.

i want these businesses to open, but i don't want 60 year olds and people with severe health conditions to be thrown on the street because we're not prepared. and the fact that nobody's prepared here to answer these questions is pretty outrageous, quite frankly. >> president yee: i agree. supervisor mandelman is on the roster. maybe he could ask some questions while we're waiting. >> supervisor mandelman: well, i'm curious if we've heard all sides. i'm curious if there's a side th -- all slides. i'm curious if there's a slide that we have not heard. >> president yee: yeah. hopefully, we can do that, and then, there'll be a person from the department to answer a

question. assessor chiu, are you still there? >> yes. i'll try to be brief. i know the late hour. thank you to the board for having me and, of course, you, supervisor, for convening the task force and i think virtually for all the members of the board who have spent time with me providing the direction of the task force. i appreciate it. i'm not going to spent too much time talking about the task force except to just share with you that we've done a lot of work and outreach to our communities to really get feedback on how people are thinking about economic recovery. and then just sort of a high-level view of the direction or connection between the task force and the question around phasing and reopening, there is one part of our work on the task force that is around answering the question

of how do we facilitate a safer reopening? so in that process, we're kbabtikbab collaborating with the department of public health to ensure that our policies and procedures are clear and more practical. we're working hard to make sure we provide feedback from the community and different groups to d.p.h. as they think about how they might want to open up different sectors and the way they might do that. we have heard from over 1,000 people who have provided survey responses. over 160 people who have e-mailed us at the task force. we've done task force meetings with over 900 conversations there, plus many, many more subgroup meetings that we have convened. i think some of the more consistent messages from the task force meetings and from the community at large is to help understand what's to happen and to plan and prepare. so i think with that, i'll speak a little bit about the

road map that was shared with the public and -- on the end of may by the mayor, on top of that, how we got to this initial road map, and what this variance means to us and what our work ahead is going to look like. just quickly, the principles that we really considered when we thought about what it is that we want d.p.h. to be thinking about some of the elements, we really wanted to make sure that there was an element -- a risk framework thinking about different sectors and how they reopened. with that, we really heavily leaned on johns hopkins, the guidance that they put together for governors across the nation, and what they really did was that they weighed risks based on things like contact lengths, and number of contacts. there was a possibility around

flexibility in modification. we paired things up with mobility where we could so we could understand what sectors opening up would look like. we took a look at all of those different sectors and tried to understand the inherent risks of delivery before versus what would be possible if there was mitigation. other things we're looking at is ensuring equity, so again, understanding the industries that are affected by closure, thinking about whether or not industries are able to work remotely, and other sectors like child care and others are essential for us to resume equity. one other way that the department is thinking about managing risk associated with increased activity in this

economy is this idea of the incremental openings, so it gets to the point that supervisor ronen is mentioning. it gets to the point that supervisor peskin mentioned in that we want to make sure that we a we're not opening everything at once. we want to monitor things like increased hospitalization, among other things, to really understand before we open up the next tranche, what we're looking at. we want to ensure that we're not opening up in a reckless way. and then, i think the other piece that is really important to understand in terms of how the framework of how this was created is really to take a look at staged guidances.

i think as many of you have heard and was really, really confusing is what was heard about the governor's announcement and what's happening in neighboring counties and all over our state is the state has put together different phases in its resilient s resiliency reopening plan. they say here's the businesses that we took a look to reopen. take a look at what protocols you have in place, but you can't go beyond that. what dr. aragon was saying is that they' that -- [inaudible] >> -- because the schools, as

you know, are run by different jurisdictions and have a lot more planning and work to do before they're able to do that. so strictly what we're talking about right now in terms of this variance is saying to the state, do we have permission to open up other sectors of the economy. it doesn't mean that we're actually going to open them up immediately once the state approves it, but what it does mean is now we can consider all of those activities and apply all of those equity factors, all of those items that supervisor ronen and peskin mentioned where we're able to open up and operate more effectively rather than being tied to a phonetic announcement that we're hearing about moving or changing at the state levels. i think it opens up another bucket that we're able to consider more industries as we move down the path of reopening. so what you see here in front of you is just a slide that

shares with you kind of what is next. so just to recap for just a moment, when we were in the shelter in place scenario in mid-march, almost every business or every type of activity was really closed down for business except for the most essential businesses, and those were things like grocery stores and pharmacies. through time, we have opened up and permitted more and more activities to happen, so you saw over time, of course, there were more things that opened, such as curbside retail. we opened up youth and summer camps. on monday, just yesterday, there was a whole other big tranche of activities that did open up, including indoor retail and including small gatherings outside, including for religious services. that's a pretty big step in terms of opening up parts of

the economy, and we know that there are more industries and people that will be impacted that we want to be thinking about for the future. the next two tranches that you're going to see, as you see this on the slide now, are going to include some of the larger activities. and again, we have the items that went through june 15. the next contemplated opening is mid-july, and then august and beyond. the way we're trying to time these is we're just thinking about the original phases that the state tried to put these activities w activities in. the road map was meant to be a planning document. it was always meant to be flexible, and i think since the time we've put it out there, we have heard so much feedback from industry, a. there were feedback from industries that said i think

i'm in this part or this phase, but i'm not sure, so i need clarity. and then, of course, there's feedback that says i want to move forward faster than what you have us scheduled to do. so i think what will happen if the board moves through, is we will go through to apply with the state. if the state grants that variance. it opens up options for us to pursue additional openings. but what that means is there's going to be a second local step that's going to happen here in san francisco where there is going to be an intentional conversation with you, members of the board of supervisors, with our task force members, with other stakeholders to say now that we know the university of different activities that can open up, now that we also know the industries that we may have left out of that guidance or that road map initially, let's go through it methodically to figure on you how it is we should be figuring out how to open in the next few

phases? do we want to think about different industries? do we want to think about different thing thats that we d be thinking about in terms of changing the order? and we will present that to the department of public health so they can consider that and layer on top of it the public health impact. as many people say, we want to reopen the economy, but we also want to make sure that we're doing it with public health in mind, so those are sort of the comments that i have, and i just want to thank you for letting me speak quickly, especially as i'm about to put my young daughter to sleep. so happy to answer any questions that any of you may have in terms of kind of what that road map, that process was, where we weant to go, and how we want to engage you. supervisor mandelman and i

serve on the policy committee for the board, so we want to pay attention when we get your feedback so we can look at how we can be flexible going forward, and once we get kind of feedback from our larger public industry sectors. >> president yee: okay. any questions for assessor chiu? thank you, assessor chiu, for your presentation and laying out what some of the thoughts are in terms of where the economic recovery task force fits into all of this. >> thank you. >> president yee: so i -- you can go ahead and put -- >> yeah, this is dr. aragon. just for the last slide, i -- i -- first of all, i want -- i want to thank you for listening to our presentation. as we develop the containment

plan, we will work closely with the board of supervisors as well as other stakeholders, including labor, and i think that's going to be a really good opportunity to address the issues that supervisor ronen has brought up. you're bringing up some very important issues that i don't have the immediate answer to. i think you're absolutely right. even if we had more rooms, they'd probably be filled up, and we'd have to figure out if we had a surge, what do we do with rooms occupied with people that may be needed for a surge? those are very good questions, and i hope we use the containment plan as an opportunity for us to work together on these issues and come up with a solution that's mutually agreeable to everyone. >> president yee: so assessor chiu, go ahead and put your baby to sleep. >> thank you sleep.

>> president yee: thanks for sticking around. before i get to supervisor mandelman, i didn't ask supervisor fewer whether she was finished. supervisor fewer, were you finished? >> supervisor fewer: i am. thank you. >> president yee: of course. and then, before i get to supervisor mandelman again, i see miss kitler has come back. do you have anybody yet, miss ki kitler? >> so we are trying to get director rhorer on, but in the meantime, the guideline is making sure that we can house 15% of the population overall, which we've done that. we continue to bring additional resources on-line on a weekly

basis, and i'm pretty sure i can get you the scenario, what it looks like in the next couple of weeks, and we can make a commitment that we will not kick anybody out of a s.i.p. room. that is a commitment from the mayor's office. >> president yee: okay. supervisor mandelman, go ahead? >> supervisor mandelman: this conversation raises an interesting logic problem, because it is clear that the state is willing to use the shelter in place beds that we have secured as to treat them as i.n.q. beds -- at least it sounds like what we're hearing from this presentation, but we might not be willing to use them as i.n.q. beds for humanitarian reasons. so this is a conundrum, and i don't know how it gets resolved. but for me, i do want to start by thanking the department of

public health for that slide that dr. colfax started with, for keeping our cases lower than any other municipality of our size in the united states. pretty amazing, and getting our testing to rates that are higher than most places. i just think that it's important that, you know -- we can see the problems, but when there's success, which there has been significantly here, i think it's worth noting. i -- i support this -- you know, i support this variance, but i want to say that, you know, for me, this is just the start of a conversation, and i think that i want the department of public health to continue to put safety first, and as the next conversations go forward about what to open,

when, and how, i think, you know, supervisor preston's points about consulting with health care workers, not just around things that relate directly to health care but to the whole project of reopening, given that it's health care workers who are going to be confronted with the realities if things spin out of control, and i do think that's an important conversation that needs to get worked into the conversations that are happening with carmen chiu and the economic recovery task force. but given that, i think it also makes sense for us to have our department of public health to be able to make decisions that are rooted in public facts, and when we are able to move forward in ways that don't jeopardize large numbers, i think we should be doing that.

i think slowing this particular piece, the variance piece, down is not a good idea. i want feedback with broad conversation that this may allow going forward. yeah, opening too slowly is a really bad thing for our economy and our people. opening too quickly and having spikes and a roller coaster is worse, so that -- you know, i'm supporting the variance, but i want the department of public health to continue to be cautious and continue to put the data, science, and facts first. thank you. >> president yee: supervisor ronen? >> supervisor ronen: yes, thank you. i appreciate you confirming on behalf of the mayor that nobody in a s.i.p. room will be displaced if there is a surge. that is very helpful. i do think that this proves

that when there is a will, there is a way, and this board of supervisors has made it very clear unanimously that we have the will to house all homeless people or especially those that are over 60 years old or especially with a health condition on the streets right now. and it's the mayor's office and dr. aragon who have said that they're not willing to use their power to make that happen, and i think that your commitment today, so if there is a surge, you will prioritize that and make that happen has proven the point that my colleagues and i have made from day one. and i continue to be -- and i just have to say it -- incredibly disappointed on the failure of leadership and on behalf of dr. aragon who fail to protect the most vulnerable among us who continue to die at

much greater numbers than last year on the streets of san francisco. however, today, i will support the variance because i have suspected, and now i know, that when there is a will, there is a way to get more hotel rooms to house the vulnerable. and i believe you could easily get those hotel rooms if you needed them. it's just that you're pretending that you can't. and it's always been inaccurate, it's always been excuses that's not true, and it's just not been satisfying, so i hope that you go back and think about that tonight. so when there are 60 year olds and various people on the streets that are dying in san francisco. but i think it's very important that we allow these businesses that are also dying in our city to open as soon as it is healthy for them to do so, and so i will be supporting this variance today.

>> president yee: okay. thank you. so let's wrap it up. it's getting late, and i want to echo other supervisors. it's a fine balancing act, we all know that. inasmuch as i wish i could wave the magic wand and say that everything is opening, and everything will be fine, i don't believe that we can do that. i mean, i would love to have a zoo open, for instance, so my grand kids could go there, but, you know, you have to weigh it out, you have to figure it out. and so i also wanted to echo that. we can always do better, but i have to give some credit to all the professionals and not only some of the people making these

decisions, but i also want to give credit to the people who live here making sure that everything's not spinning out of control here. not everybody is following the direction that they should be following, but the vast majority of people are following it. i mean, i see -- when you look at it, even the during the protest, the number of people trying to keep safe and wear masks, and so forth, it's not just about voters, it's about people understanding and wanting to do the best thing for all of us. so why don't we go ahead and, as this point, madam clerk, let's take the roll. >> clerk: thank you, mr. president. on item 28 -- [roll call]

. >> clerk: there are 11 ayes. >> president yee: okay. so the motion passes unanimously. okay. so, madam clerk, can you read the in memoriams? >> clerk: yes. today's meeting will be adjourned in memory of the following beloved individuals, on behalf of supervisor peskin for the late raymond lie and rober robert, and on behalf of supervisor stefani, supervisor

peskin, and supervisor and president yee, for the late mrs. robin brasso. >> president yee: okay, colleagues. that brings us to the end of our agenda. madam clerk, is there any further business before us today? >> clerk: that concludes our business for today. >> president yee: thank you, madam clerk, and as there's no other business, we are adjourned. >> clerk: thank you. is --

>> our united states constitution requires every ten years that america counts every human being in the united states, which is incredibly important for many reasons. it's important for preliminary representation because if -- political representation because if we under count california, we get less representatives in congress. it's important for san francisco because if we don't have all of the people in our city, if we don't have all of

the folks in california, california and san francisco stand to lose billions of dollars in funding. >> it's really important to the city of san francisco that the federal government gets the count right, so we've created count sf to motivate all -- sf count to motivate all citizens to participate in the census. >> for the immigrant community, a lot of people aren't sure

whether they should take part, whether this is something for u.s. citizens or whether it's something for anybody who's in the yunited states, and it is something for everybody. census counts the entire population. >> we've given out $2 million to over 30 community-based organizations to help people do the census in the communities where they live and work. we've also partnered with the public libraries here in the city and also the public schools to make sure there are informational materials to make sure the folks do the census at those sites, as well, and we've initiated a campaign to motivate the citizens and make sure they participate in census 2020. because of the language issues that many chinese community and families experience, there is a lot of mistrust in the federal

government and whether their private information will be kept private and confidential. >> so it's really important that communities like bayview-hunters point participate because in the past, they've been under counted, so what that means is that funding that should have gone to these communities, it wasn't enough. >> we're going to help educate people in the tenderloin, the multicultural residents of the tenderloin. you know, any one of our given blocks, there's 35 different languages spoken, so we are the original u.n. of san francisco. so it's -- our job is to educate people and be able to familiarize themselves on doing this census. >> you go on-line and do the census. it's available in 13 languages, and you don't need anything.

it's based on household. you put in your address and answer nine simple questions. how many people are in your household, do you rent, and your information. your name, your age, your race, your gender. >> everybody is $2,000 in funding for our child care, housing, food stamps, and medical care. >> all of the residents in the city and county of san francisco need to be counted in census 2020. if you're not counted, then your community is underrepresented and will be underserved.

good morning, everyone. welcome to the june 15th, 2020, meeting of the rules committee. i am supervisor hillary ronen, chair of the committee. with me on the video conference is rules committee vice chair supervisor catherine stefani and rules committee member supervisor gordon mar. our clerk today is victor young. and i'd like to thank sfgov tv for staffing this meeting. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes. my apologies. due to the covid-19 health emergency, and to protect board members, city employees and the public, the board of supervisors legislative chamber and committee room are closed. however, members will be participating in the meeting remotely. this precaution is taken pursuant to the statewide stay-at-home order and all local, state, federal and declaration directives. committee meetings will attend the meeting through