it will not attract a larger area around the field. they say they're requesting usage so it's not to restrict feud planned or change use of this field. it leave open for all sorts of use in the future. disrupting our family time and we haven't even have kinner together so please i am hoping ha we will not approve this permit. >> you have 40 questions remaining. >> good evening, honourable commissioners, my name is molly mcfadden and i'm an alum new as well as an allumni representative for the class of 2014. and i'm a resident of the sunset district and has been my life of 24 years. and i'm calling in support many

of which were hinder. they have completed the field after practise and locking away our this was inconvenient and scary as a young woman who stands at 5'3" and 115 pounds walk to go my car in the dark. our students and coached walked me to my car. if you approval this project, all students and staff members as well as our neighbours can feel safe walking own to their vehicles and. >> you are 41 questions remaining. >> my name is brian. i live in the sunset. and as you know, i am also a

former planning commissioner and that's why i know that your job is so adult and difficult and o thank you so much for what you do. it's difficult because typically you are at the point of growth and that's a difficult point. they call them growing pains for a reason. this is not big projects but it's a kind of cultural -- they have a lot of problems in the sunset and city and world but kids outside playing safety is not a problem. it makes our city so please go along with the staff recommendation and approve. thank you. >> you have 41 questions remaining. >> hello honour able commissioners, thank you for your time today.

i'm hopeful our community can add field lights so students can use the field for practice and games as it was greatly. >> c. blakespear: prove and increasimproveit's use. thank you again for your time. >> you have 41 questions

remaining. my name is rick and i am a class of 19 representatives and i'm a parent of a 2020 alum student athlete as well. i'm also a twin peaks homeowner. i really appreciate that the school is helping issues that go back to my early days and that is to be able to remain on campus and practice and build communities allowing parents to come out after work hours and see their kids compete after all the hard work they've put in and i appreciate the fact that they have chosen a very low impact lighting solution and.

>> sierra clubs believes an impact report is needed to understand this project's impacts in terms of light pollution. nighttime noise pollution impacts the wildlife and human health and increased vehicle miles traveled. western san francisco is on the pacific fly away. art efficient night lighting has negative impacts on the migration patterns of many species of by. the first project to cause light solutions even with over a wide area to levels that are equal logically disruptive and eir is needed for birds and pets currently living in the vicinity of the project and a full eir would prevent alternatives that would protect both parties. the potential for negative

environmental impacts and the lack of effective community participation are such that the club supports a full eir -- >> you have 41 questions remaining. >> hi, my name is jeffrey snipes and i just graduated and i understand that the lights do come with a lot of responsibility but i think that they're so important because at a time from the concept of unity and community as being threatened with our global pandemic and our war against social injustice these lights give us a chance to reform unity and i think it will allow kids, especially people younger than me and it's going to be a fresh mount to create memories and

thank you. >> you have 41 questions remaining. >> hi, thank you for your time. i have family directly across from saint i guess in a she is, thiignacis.i oppose approval ofs projector any lighting and it would be far out weighed on the neighbors that need to live here and it is not fair for our children to have to suffer so they can have lights on all over. this is a very selfish move and

i think it should be rejected. please deny this proposal. please. >> you have 40 questions remaining. i'm standing by this project and i hope the commission would oppose it. it really gives no benefi benefo the public and not in the spirit of a conditioned use per application and the lights are out of scale with the neighborhood and they will illuminate the am bee around nighttime to provide a lot of low which will older folks time to go to bed and it will change the quality of life and it

degrades our and chokes coming home do not need to have lights on until the 9:00. i'm also an astronomer and a school that claims itself religious will deny the view of the heavens to us late at night. >> you have 39 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is michael thomas and i am five years retired after teaching, counseling and coaching at s.i. for 40 years. those three words, teaching, counseling and coaching were interchangeable for me as i mentored student-athletes in the classroom, counseling office, and on the field or court. s.i. students thrive when an adult mentor is present. with the addition of field

lights, student-athletes will be on campus all day which human resources readily available and then literally walk within minutes to their well-lit practice location right on campus. how ideal. physical activity is irreplaceable and supporting the mental well-being of student-athletes and enhancing camaraderie with one other and and human interaction more robust that's it's been. please vote yes and thank you for your time and consideration. >> you have 37 questions remaining. >> hi, can you hear me? >> yes. >> can you hear me? >> hi, my name is una and i live

across the street from s.i. on rivera and i'm urging you to not approve this project. the real question is here, what is the public benefit of this lighting? and s.i. only promises to try and reduce the many problems it acknowledges this probable will create. it's not the same as a public benefit. it's a what will the neighborhood get out of it? they'll be in 200 nights a year with woke game nights having attendance of up to 1,000 people and friday and saturday game nights having attendance up to 2,800 people. these events will have impacts on the neighborhood and nothing will change that. you are a public and act in the public interest. it's project only benefits a private school and their students. many of whom do not even live in the city. there's nothing in the public interest regarding this project.

there is no public benefits. please do not allow this to go forward. thank you. >> you have 37 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is larry and i live directly across from the field at s.i. i'm a father of two and it's really difficult for me to raise my children and have them do their homework when the lights and noise is going on. it's disruptive to my children and us and i'm a healthcare worker and i work at night and it's hard to rest up and do my job appropriate to take care of the patients who actually need my help. and lastly, i've noticed that having these lights may encourage students to litter which we always witnesses and we see a lot of kids wearing s.i. sweat shirts and we can't really say anything so we tell the rec

and parks workers to witness this with us. thank you for my your time. >> you have 37 questions remaining. >> hi, yes, hello commissioners, my name is ku chen and i live adjacent to s.i. and as a resident, a future parent, a healthcare workers, i'm really concerned about this proposal and the people who lived here and there's a lot of young people and families who live in this neighborhood will be significantly negatively impacted.

s this is only benefiting the students and will cause a lot of disruptions for the neighborhood. please, please, consider revoking the conditional use for this lighting program, thank you. >> you have 36 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is (inaudible). and i am opposed to this school and stadium. it is not the neighborhood and the students and by bee priving them of sleep and it will bring light and noise pollution in this covid-19 era when we have less crowds and less events and nothing more. it's terrible. it's really terrible and immoral of the school to go with this

project. and please, stop them from going on. thank you. >> you have 35 questions remaining. >> good evening, honorable commissioners, my name is hugh domino i'm a native sun of the sunset, a family has roots to the 1880s and numerous generations of women and men graduates and athletes from college prep. i've served the youth of san francisco as an assistant district and youth guidance and a youth councilor and whether

their opportunity for high school comes. nothing draws young athletes like the soccer fields and the lighted fields at sunset playgrounds and to positive athletic activities. i strongly joined with neighbors and to ask you to support and allow the installation and responsible use of lights at j.b. murphy field and saint ignasious college. >> you have 33 questions remaining. >> hello honorable commissioners, my name is teddy buchanan and i graduated from s.i. this past year and i was the wco player-of-the-year and

and i think we should having monday through friday practice with a saturday game and then the rigors of homework over the weekend really doesn't give students a chance or student-athletes a chance to balance during the school week because there's really no break at all. and later in the year, we practiced basically in the dark and football is such a contact sport at the very dangerous for our athletes and it can be a employed to all different sports. college courses, i'm at uc davis playing football and they expect football games to be on frizz and i know coaches and i thought it was on friday and i also have a little brother coming up playing football so i want them to have a.

>> and both my daughters were born there and live there. i'm alumni of s.i. and both of my girls are students there now. having been both an allumni and neighbor as part of the sunset community, i thought about this initiative and i want to express my full support for adding lights to the field. i feel it creates an better environment that enhances camaraderie and helps build character through these sports and foster healthy to foster emotional development among its peers critical and the ability to eliminate the field is a huge help here. lighting initiative creates a safe environment for the kids and great community and where families and friends can gather. allowing huge public benefits for people to support local businesses who enjoy watching these folks patronize local bakery, stores and restaurants.

having lights will help continue this in the sunset so based on the information i've heard and the lo low illumination this wil cause i feel it would be a fantastic addition with minimal negative impacts. thank you for your time, commissioners. >> my name is brendan and i'm an alumnus and i live across the street on the 39th avenue side of the football field and and folks that talked about the residents of the neighborhood. and we need to feel it would change the character of the neighborhood itself and we keep hearing about the benefits to the students. what about the negative benefits

to the residents surrounding the school and many folks have called in saying they're from sunset they do not live across from the field and wouldn't be impacted from those adjacent to the school. i don't think anybody debates the fact that sports are a important part of development and social aspects and the impact to the neighborhood and the district facing neighbors of the school would be far outweighs or as soon as the impact to the neighbors far outweighed by the benefit to the student-athletes and we hope you oppose this project. >> you have 30 questions remaining. >> hello. my name is eli and i'm a senior who i ran cross country and served on student council and i also lived in the sunset and i grew up playing on that have

lights and are in dense neighborhoods and i think sf students would be happy to have these lights and they would allow later and safer practices, especially in the winter given that on campus learning would be limited this year, as will sports will be important and so i would just like to urge the planning commission to approve this project. thank you. >> you have 29 questions remaining. >> my name is mike sweeney. i'm a strong supporter of the lighting project at s.i. i'm a graduate class of 88 and student from the they are a

neighborhood resource for the students and the larger communities and we have small

children in our home and it can be a great school and they're not taking in consideration the neighbors. when the enjoyment is gone and we cannot have our windows open and we have to start everything parking is an issue and i would like to say that the lights we need to take into consideration and the neighborhoods and how it would change everything. >> on 36th and pacheco.

i am a big proponent of this opportunity for the school for largely the reason that f.i. is the best neighbor you could have. i went to stevenson, to ultimately he went to si and a neighbor and my mother would call the school and she had issues and that inspired me to find s.i. as the community. i think these lights will help do all the the things that everyone has spoken about and most importantly, build our community and maintain the commitment that they have for the sunset and i also wanted to mention that my father loved swimming and the si poll up until the ripe old age of 95. and so the idea that the facilities don't benefit the local community is just not

crew. i strongly encourage you to support this and i am planning to play division 3 in college. last year i was first team all league and all offensive player-of-the-year in field hockey. what's been a major part of my experience and it's why i have made the most memories in my high school experience. especially in times of covid-19, it's more important to have sports and skyline and practical practice and allows (inaudible) after covid-19, the need for well engineers and well planned lighting system will remain just as important.

as students and i have learned beyond sports and this is why they're beneficial for s.i. students. thank you for your time and consideration. >> you have 25 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is renee moore and i lived on sunset atlantic as a child. i'm a third generation. i'm highly involved at school and i'm proud to have and the

two other female trainers. also, when i came back, i didn't have old friends it would benefits sports and other students by having a sense of friendship and feels it's part of the team even if they're not even playing the sport. thank you for your time and consideration. >> you have 25 questions remaining. >> good afternoon. my name is bill and my wife, children and i live on 37th avenue in the area of s.i. her family has been here for 60 plus years and we are strongly in favor of this project. we own our own home, run a small business and live on 37th avenue in the neighborhood. we moved here to this

neighborhood and remain here knowing and expecting that facilities like south sunset, would grow. like many of our sunset neighbors, we have sent our three kids to s.i. and we are from the neighborhood. the school does not exclude and has a long history of educating sunset kids. the project will not negatively impact our lives in those in the neighborhood. just like south sunset west sunset and all the other parks with lights, they have made our neighborhood a better place to live. as a parent, neighbor, we strongly support this. thank you. >> you have 24 questions remaining. >> caller: i am a long-term resident. i won't be directly affected by the noise but i support the points that the sierra club, the

lighting issue is a big one and if i lived there, that sound upwards of two-thirds of the nights of the year that the neighbors will be affected by thousands of people and this is a private school, a private religious school, very extremely well funded school. and our public schools are probably going to be diminishing their sports programs. who do you represent? the private religious school or the community or the residents, commissioners. thank you, very much. >> you have 24 questions remaining. >> this is mikey harrison and i'm a s.i. grad from the class of 2020 and i played football, socker and ran track last year. next year i'll play football at university of colorado.

i live 10 minutes from s.i. installing lights would lead to a lot of positives. it would save the school time and money and allow for campuses night practices aside from this it woulded add to the experience of being a student or avis to be. lights would allow for night games to be played at s.i. which is something all high school athletes would get to experience here and there. i think my time is now and i football players and i remember games where we got to play under the lights and just experience that thrill and athletes like lacrosse, soccer, field hockey, track and field would get to use this field and over all just a positive for the cultural of high school sports in san francisco. thank you for listening, please vote yes. >> you have 24 questions remaining. >> my named is dr. david crosby and i am opposed to the approval

of this project has submitted and it suggests that the use of lighting to 208 days and it's hard to believe it would not have an arrest verse and it's an or the and it states and the proposed lights at the exist fag sil tee would not extent and they're designed to allow expanded use of the facility. again, further evaluations are in order. it's desirable and the neighborhood serving school i would come that s.i. provide at an annual tuition of $26,000 a year sun likely the majority of students where tuition is one quarter of the median household chin and it indicates 40-foot area permitted and wireless telecommunications use and other if this is the case why must all be granted why not have just one

it can accommodate 2,000 people and there was no plan to mitigate transmission and despite a significant increase in social gatherings at the school due to expended use and it's added to the closing this project and documented from the proposal. thank you for your time. >> you have 24 questions remaining. >> i live across the city and from 39th and riff a era. i have a 1-year-old daughter. and high noise from crowds and the use of 5g technology and it's not taken into consideration and how this will effect the small children in the community. having lights be used for up to 200 nights a year is absolutely

ludicrous and causing routines to be changed. we ask you to take into consideration how small children in the neighborhood would be affected by non essential lights. by voting yes on this project it will show our community that you saint and their students that pay tuition for a project that doesn't directly effect their education and the outer sunset. students and parents do not have to live these lights across from their homes and they will drive home which is mostly outside of san francisco city. i am extremely against this, please do not approve this proposal. thank you. you have question questions remaining. >> hello honorable commissioners. my name is matt. i have have been a strong supporter of adding field lights since i heard about the project. i'm a san francisco resident and a s.i. parent. i'm also president of the s.i.

fathers club representing a thousand dads at s.i. we raise over a million dollars annually for scholarships so students from all backgrounds can attend s.i. including many in our very own sunset community. sports play an important rule in our community and my two sons are no exception. they stay mentally fit and it's an important life skills and bond them with their classmates. lights on the field will allow for safer training for s.i. athletes on campus. lights will make it easier for parents as a 25 year san francisco resident i will see the light project move forward and hopefully in time for my son to play under them. thank you for your support. >> you have 23 questions remaining.

>> caller are you prepared to submit your testimony. let's go to the next caller. >> this is matthew. i live across the street from the s.i. field and what i find interesting is their support does seem to be limited to s.i. alumni of some sort but what i have not heard is any kind of opposition, even from s.i. alumni to the additional studied requested by the committee. i don't even think it's working. and just look at large event plan submitted by they're only dealing issues with properties not dealing with any issues not o not the safety trash or packing studying to occur.

thank you. >> you have 23 questions remaining. >> this is roger wong and i'm a resident of the out you are sunset neighborhood with my family it's a big problem with the lighting, that lighting is separated from the closest house by 280 feet buffer by park and trees. we're talking about lighting that is begin rating 258,000

enhanced by the fog we have in the sunset. even the lighting impact report is showing the loss of 5,000 to 50,000 over to the public way. and as much as 5,000candelas to the immediate waivers. there's health issues related to the lighting used at the 5700 that is detrimental to health and you know, these benefits do not justify the negative impact to the greater neighborhood and for this reason i strongly oppose to the project and i hope you do so as well. thank you. >> you have 20 questions

remaining. >> my name is sun kim and i'm a father of a student at s.i. and a 25 year resident of san francisco. i have tiger woods points i want to reemphasize regarding the support of lights. most of our students come from working families and most of these kids use s.i. for a second home and many students will take part in competitive athletes athletics and organized events and on the field for their first time in their lives. the field lights are essential. they're really an essential part of helping them grow leaders inside and outside the classroom and many of the students and faculty participated in these events. these lights are a valuable part and 15 students and extended communities participating in the events on the field.

please vote. >> you have 20 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is kathleen and i'm a rising junior at s.i. high school. and i'm a second generation s.i. wild cat. i've been on the principal's honor roll since freshman year and i'm on the varsity rowing team. i was given the most inspirational and rowing season and i continue to inspire and encourage each one of my teammates. rowing has taught me to be patient and a motto we students live by. we are taught to be respectful and responsible we hope you can

see us at one of our sporting events. >> you have 20 questions remaining. >> s.i. has many sports programs and with the installation of the lights we would be allowed to safely practice and schedule games at a later time. sports have made me feel a part of a special community that encourages me to work hard and never give up. this community has also taught

me what it means to be working with and for others. adding lights to the field is a great way of showing gratitude to the students to continue give back to volunteers. thank you for your consideration. we welcome you to one of our names and. >> i grew up in the sunset district on 26th avenue. in 1979 i graduated where i was a student athlete and please approve the lighting project in order to let students more easily participate in athletics. it will contribute to the mission of s.i. which is the develop student leadership, service and justice to a world in badly need of it. thank you commissioners and good

evening. >> >> you have 18 questions remaining. >> and i am swimming all four years for s.i. it taught me what being it inspired me to get certification and work at the i.s. pool on the weekend teaching swim lessons and i support adding lights to the field so we can use it for practice and be safe with proper lighting and with the addition of the lights, students and spectators will be able to engage more easily in school spirit and pride. adding lights is a great way to give back to all the students who served their communities and through service projects and volunteer opportunities. the values s.i. taught me such as caring for the entire person and to be a woman with and for others and always in my life no matter where i am.

thank you commissioners for your time and consideration and we all invite you to come out to one of our games. >> you have 16 questions remaining. >> hello, my name is allison and i live on the corner of 39th and rivera. i've been an educator for 17 years and i understand the socially motional needs and physical outlets that are really critical for our students and i've been in the public schools for 17 years and i've noticed that there hasn't been a lot of talk about how this is going to negatively impact that schools that go to sunset elementary or local schools. their shift for the student-athletes to a later practice time doesn't shift the neighborhood schedule so students who need to go to bed earlier are now going to be kept

up later and so they're going to struggle at school more because they're not going to have the sleep that they need. and the mother of two 10-year-olds twins and when they have games late at night and we can't find parking on saturdays and now we're not going to find parking during the rest of the week as i work 10 hour days. i don't think s.i. is being a good neighbor but thinking about the impacts on others. thank you. >> you have 16 questions remaining. >> >> hell oh i'm my junior year and i'm a varsity football player. i am in support of the lights. i have played a couple friday night games and the energy is magical and i have made

unforgettable moments and i valued the lessons from these games. these lights are necessary and in terms of the should we not get these lights leave without the experience and lessons that they have gained through our times with us. our motto is pursuit of perfection an. >> you have 16 questions remaining. >> there is the place reliving

in from new york and we love sunset and as a chinese immigrant from hong kong and community workers and sunset and i really experience this strong support from s.i. for the families of myself and. >> he has changed and and it follows instructions to one and the light project and one more favorite and for students. they need exercise and one holistic well-being and the body, mind and soul. thank you very much. >> you have 16 questions remaining.

>> hi my name is linda and i'm a native san franciscan and i live directly across from the field on 39th avenue. i'd like to say that i'm very much opposed to the s.i. proposal. i think it's an extreme imposition on the people who live in this neighborhood. these are our homes and we live here and we have the right to enjoy peace and quiet there is no parking. there's noise and the next day after a game i have to go and clean out all the garbage in front of my house. the loud speakers are blaster and pounding and i would guess that most of the people that are pushing for these lights would not want them please propose this project. thank you. >> you have 14 questions

remaining. my name is deric wong and i live across the street on 39th from s.i. i'm surprised no one actually explained how it's like to never cross the street from us. i just want and the kids and came out later on and found the mirror broken on the ground. i have another neighbor that i talked to and like you said, he actually parks across the street and the night before and because she doesn't know if she can get the car out in the morning and i myself live in a house with a garage so i have an extra wide driveway. one of the students parked halfway into my driveway and being a good neighbor, they came

out and a month later i noticed the front of my house got egged, like someone by the students, probably. i couldn't say anything because i never witnessed it. they also put cones out in the streets for the school bus to park to pick up kids from another area. the kids i noticed just parked right there between the kids. in between the cones. no one in the school says anything about it and the bus double parked in front of my house across the street. and have you tried that where you got cars going both ways on a one way street. it's almost impossible and not only death the kids sometimes play music on the loud speaker. every now and then i hear them playing rap music and not like i want to listen to rap music. another student had a high

performance car and after school he would drive it down the street and you can hear it. i know you can hear it from the school. no one ever addressed it. he did it until the end of the term. and now, for our area, i thought holding it at night and we can't have guests over and and thank you. >> you have 15 questions remaining. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is joy chan and i'm a resident across from s.i. do not approve this project as it only benefits the school and ex -- (inaudible) in the neighborhood.

90 feet tall light poles 200 nights a year this will impact the skyline of the neighborhood which will disrupt the quietness and add noise and light pollution. please be clear, there's no direct relationship between installing the lights and allowing s.i. to have a robust program. as a planning of the schedule. again, the lights may benefit the students for years of their life at this school but hurt the neighbors who live here for a lifetime. please, please do not approve this project as it only benefits the school. again, all the concerns mentioned about might be tolerable once or twice a year for special and occasional events but 200 nights a year, taking that frequency into account, this emphasize the impact and become intolerable by the neighbors, please, thank you for listening to my comments and do not approve this. >> you have 13 questions

remaining. hello commissioners. my name is danny ryan and i just graduated from s.i. i played football at s.i. and i'm playing next year for usc. board, especially football, some of my favorite memories at s.i. everyone coming together to support each other and show schools spirit. memories i made last year will last a lifetime. i support putting up the lights because it will ensure to play at s.i. i had a younger sister and i thank you for your time. >> you have 12th questions

remaining. >> hello honorable commissioners my name is lydia and i live in the sunset and my son attends s.i. he has played football for the last two years and i volunteered as a team parent and i serve on the board of parents association. i will show my strong support for the lights. the lights will have a critical impact to make a difference on why it puts the students and building the community. students will have the opportunity to maximize precious time by playing later and outlets for the mental, physical and emotional well-being. they'll be able to practice, place and grow through sports and access to the field. this is especially true in s.f. where kids don't have these outlets. every year we have a black and brown day for students of colorment one of the highlights ihighlightsand they ask questioe fields and the sports programs and the community. as future students, it makes me excited they'll have the

opportunity to benefit from these lights. it's one of the most pure sporting events you can see and family and friends makes you feel part of the community and do some community. please approve the lights and thank you for the opportunity to share my support. >> my name is tom and class of 1990s.i. good evening, commissioners, thank you for the good work you do. these lights are for our future. these lights acknowledge how our young adults perceive how they're valued. the lights are for the visiting team, their families, friends, neighborhoods. communities, these aren't for an exclusive private club, they're

designed to heighten a shared experience and small town values in a big city. families getting together to watch their children becoming adults, sharing time, sharing the experience of an athletic competition at its truest form. when these lights go up, so do the hopes of all who share in the community experience of a high school sporting events. let's celebrate those who welcome the small town experience and a city that needs something that feels right, this is a good thing. this is right. it will bring us closer together to share and experience something good and true. thank you for your time. >> you have 10 questions remaining. >> this is isabel and i am

opposed. i live on 39th avenue on the seventh-yard line of the s.i. football field. i can understand a couple nights a year and the trash and the traffic and the noise that have from these games but 200 nights a year is too much. we own our home and we're raising a 4-year-old here and he will miss his bed time and not get the sleep he needs in the home we built for him. i would like to point out that the new conditional permits is new and it just came a month ago and they're affiliates can use this field for these night games and this is a very vague term. we don't know what it means many of there's a lot of vagueness

this this plan. i ask we get a plan we can respond to and mitigate the many negative impacts that this will have on my family and in our neighborhoods. >> i graduated from s.i. high school in 1970. i live a 36 and rivera. i ran cross country, track and field and i was an alter boy. i am deeply opposed to the lights. we've this trash, had to tow cars and i was a student who went there. i did not see people behave in such a manner. please, for the neighborhood, and someone who graduated from s.i. high school and was involved in sports, please do not approve this project. thank you.

>> you have eight questions remaining. >> i want to point out the words about health concerns. artificial lighting on its own at reasonable times does not cause harm and listing that point out elaboration is a disingenuous rhetorical tactic. with the verizon project it's not a problem. it's duel use something the city should encourage more and make use of our space and the commissioner ice time. even if the benefits were limited not a reaction for public benefit it's acceptable for good members of the community like s.i. to benefit from use of their own land. they should balance that with the cost but those costs are

really incrementally minimal in this case. i did a. >> you have seven questions remaining. >> hello honorable commissioners. my name is bianca and i'm a sophomore. i'm a fifth generation san francisco resident. i was on the freshman girl's basketball team and i am one of the presidents on the wild cat welcoming committee. i support the installation of lights on the field because s.i. has a very active sports program. this would allow teams to use the field for later games. this will also help safer around the schools and especially in the winter months when it gets dark earlier. as an athlete, i know we put in long hours of practice and we can leave the representative of our stool and steed and sports.

and important to support my teammates and there are a strong bond and we work well together and finish the season with 24 wins and two losses.

please oppose this project. >> you have five questions' maining. >> hi, this is eugene with my family and we own our home on 39th avenue half a block and we can current lie and clearly clear the games and practices from our back window and we have a grade school child who will be disrupted by the plan 150 games and it will be played up to 10:00 p.m. effecting his development all the callers who support the lights and he is considered placing our quality of life from a high school sports and please consider our lives or our practices. consider our lives former games. thank you very much.

>> you have four questions remaining. >> this is johnathan. i have no connection to s.i. except that i used to go swimming before last year when i had public swimming. i wanted t to concur with james. what people need to look for is what is called room darkening curtains. i have the same problem. of a street light outside my house and it's hard to sleep unless i closed the curtains and i can sleep. the other impacts you don't have to do with the lights themselves they're parking, and noise impacts and i think that s.i. and the neighbors need to resolve those issues and learn to become better neighbors with each other regardless weather the lights go up.

also the verizon networks they'll improve people's radiation exposure because you will have less coming out of your pocket when the towers closer to you. so that is a benefit to the community. thank you. >> you have five questions remaining. >> hi, my name is debbie and i live on 36th avenue across from the practice field. and several nights a week, i came to see the ocean and i cannot see the sunset because the practice lights are on and when they've had big games and brought in the lights, i can do shadow puppets on my wall. several blocks away. it negatively affects us. we have to close our curtains and we like to look out at the world going by.

we don't mind s.i. having games sometimes but we would love if they would maybe not have them 200 days out of the year and and the ocean and see nature and see the trees and see people walking by with their dogs. and i don't think it's fair to the neighbors to say is that it's just going to be 200 games, we'll have 200 games every day we're going to have practice and sometimes there will be smaller groups so it won't be traffic but it will still be -- >> you have three questions remaining. >> >> my name is deand our family home is less than 200 feet from the s.i. field. we lived in that home since 1956 and before s.i. came to the sunset district. s.i. students are great kids and however, lighting the field will

only benefit s.i. students. students of a private school. 40% of students live outside san francisco. other schools manage to schedule all the sporting events without lights. night traffic and noise limits our use of our own deck, porches yards, having our windows open and other home assets. crowded streets may disrupt emergency resident time response. sunset residents are the public represented by the commission. please, we oppose the s.i. lights. please deny permits for the s.i. lights installation. thank you for your consideration. >> you have two questions remaining.

hello honorable commissioners. my name is alan lundqvist and i was born in san francisco and raised half a block from s.i. or what was san dunes and then s.i. my grandfather had sculptures at golden gate international and has them in churches all over the city. my father worked as an architect and created senior housing all over the city. the neighborhood and the families were here first. s.i. moved into such a situation and why compromises made on both sides over the years to live together, this is one step too far. obviously more studies need to be done because jeff stated that nighttime events will not adversely effect the neighborhood. he is obvious low never been there when s.i. has done something at night with the noise and the traffic and all the issues that others have spoken of. imagine trying to to have a family dinner, trying to help your kid with his homework and

all the lights and noise coming just a few lights and few yards away people's and and those who live there need to sleep.

>> you have one question remaining. >> you have two questions remaining. hello. -- is the public commenter prepared to submit your testimony? let's go to the next caller.

>> you have one question remaining. >> is the caller prepared to submit your testimony. >> honorable commissioners, president koppel, lifetime resident of (inaudible) west side sunset district. i'm a current s.i. football coach. currently california law will serve our mandate -- >> sir, if you are a s.i. football coach you are an employee of the school and you are part of the project sponsor team and you have a financial interest in this. let's go to the next caller. >> i am a volunteer. >> you have zero questions remaining. >> commissioner, that conclude a marathon public comment session and the matter is now before

you. >> so thank you again to jonas for aiding in the public comment section of this hearing. thank you to all the members of the public who were patient enough to deal with the logistics of our hearings as well. i do live in the west side and i grew up in mark mer said and i live out in the sunset. i'm a couple -- more than a couple blocks away from the school. i went to lole high school down the road and i played baseball and basketball there and a lot of the straits i learned growing up playing sports like socialization and teamwork and discipline and camaraderie and commitment, allowed me to show up to practice and my games on time. it's something that i highly value that's made me into the guy i am today. also, what i see that is different nowadays than back when i was a school and the

late-night hundreds but technology and it's so much prevalent everywhere we go, not only the internet but cellphones and tick tock apps and video games. a lot of the colleagues and friends that i talk to and they're frustrated and their kids play video games and i think just to make sure they had communication and more of a dialogue with the community because they are important and also i didn't realize that certain aspects liar safety will come into play when it comes down to women walking home late eight night in dark areas.

with those reasons i support the project but would love to hear from the other commissioners. >> thank you, president koppel for your comments. and thank you for the public for providing their comments either in opposition or support. i just have a question in terms of -- i mean there are some comments in terms of what -- in terms of environmental impact report can the staff explain what would trigger an environmental impact report and whether there are other analysis that has been done in other high schools that the planning has been aware of? >> you may be muted.

>> yes. >> >> so, i wasn't the staff planner on this project and our environmental planning team prepared a statement for me and this wasn't response to the letters they received and lighting near the beach chalet athletic field or athletic facility e.i.r. and the golden

gate park observation wheel exemption that they result in less than significant impacts related to athletic field lighting. so, i believe there has been a recent increase in studies of lighted projects and i think it has been determined that with the technologies around, in the mitigation possible at the project i've proven to not impacts based on lighting. >> thank you. and for the sain s.i. principale mentioned there's going to be event management plans. has those been presented to the community during the community

meeting and what was the reaction? >> >> thank you so much for your questions. yeah, we actually in your packet it should include our detailed plans on how we plan to mitigate large evening game issues and including increase communication with our neighbors and detailed instructions for opposing teams and codes of conduct for our own community and for the other communities who join us and there was a lot we have means

for people to report problems so noise problems for students who go to their cars and making noise and -- to hear the students the need in order to practice with the lights. by approving this, i also wish

and looks like the s.i. school has event management that can bn also look into so for me, i'm leaning towards approval on this. that's my comment. >> commissioner diamond. >> thank you. i believe that the lighting plan is clearly better for s.i. and its students as well as the alumnus. the later start times is better for the students. and better for the students and the family to stay closer to campus. the students don't have to miss the last class of the day because they have to leave early to go to games elsewhere. tomb work collaboration and a sense of belonging speaking and some other three former teams who are now young adults and

better for teens to be at events that are supervised than wandering around the city and i believe the schools tried to be minimally evasive and it's whether or not condition 11 has been designed to try to reduce the impact felt by the neighbors as much as possible and with that i have a few questions. i think you read at the beginning of this staff report, now hours ago, that there was a revision to be in condition 11 and it's a condition that refers to a fill it's a mentioned by one of the speakers so do you

reread to be. >> the proposed new language would be the project sponsor shall not light the field for use by groups unaffiliated with the project sponsor. >> question for the principal, which is what are you referring to by unaffiliated by the project sponsor, what does that mean? >>

>> i'm the project sponsor. so we have what are called club teams that are affiliated with the schools so an s.i. staff person is here so for example, the olympic would not be affiliated with s. irk. that is a compromise that we made it has members of our star

attitudes on the team and so it's affiliated with us. let me pursue a little more and many of the neighbors referred to use of the lights 200 nights a year, is it 200? >> if you look at sunset in august 1st, it's eighth in the evening and we're not here in august, right. in may, the use in the easing would be limited because again it gets dark until 8:30 in the evening and so those tail ends, it would not in use. same thing over the christmas

break. use of lights would be -- >> so what are we talking about? is it 150? what is the number roughly that you are talking about where the lights would be on during the year? >> i think the neighbors need to hear this? >> yes. 150. >> that's the number. >> and of the 150, how many would the school actually be using it versus your affiliated clubs or other relationships that would be permitted under in language. >> it would be 150. >> so what about the affiliate. >> any club team affiliate will not be allowed to use the facilities under the lights. on the 150 regular nights of the year, those are school usage

hours under the lights. >> they would not -- are you saying the affiliates would not use the lighted fields. >> from time to time they would use the field but it would not be. it would be a small number out of that 150. the primary usage is going to be practices for s.i. teams. soccer, lacrosse, football. let me push further before i give my fall on this. tell me how important it is to you to end at 9:00 at night instead of 8:30? >> you know, it would be nice if we could end at 9:30 at night. we want to get our kids home obviously but 9:00 gives us time to basically get everything cleaned up and get the kids out

of here and get everything taken care of. typically practices would end at 8:30 and we have to go ahead and clean the field, get to their cars and so on and so fourth. we do plan to dim the lights. >> i'm talking about what time the lights would go off. from the neighbor's perspective, what time would the lights be turned off? >> 9:00. >> ok. >> and how -- what kind of limitation does it put on you if the commission decided on 8:30 instead of 9:00? >> you know, it puts a littletation on us. it just makes it more difficult for the coaches. we could dim -- we wanted to put language in about being able to dim the lights but it would be complicated to add those sentences in. looking at it and saying, 9:00 and we can dim them at 8:45 and go to 50 or 25%.

want to get the kids to the cars and get the field cleaned off. >> commissioner diamond, are you ok with me saying a little bit more about the lights and feel like neighbors are misinformed are you ok with that? >> yes in one moment, let me just finish getting through my list of questions and i would be happy to hear that if you like that. my last question has to do with the da vis between those games that are not subject to it and you use a thousand and the thousand strikes me as a very large number so why did you pick the number of a thousand and between what is subject to your larger management plan is what is expected on the other nights. we have events with a thousand people attending in either our basketball games and back to

school nights, so we routinely have events of up to 1,000 or 1500 and the impact is not that great and we try to get people to focus to do their parking on 37th and 36th avenue so it doesn't impact on 39th because it's a long walk anyway so we have a lot of events over 1,000 people and the impact, there's a lot of parking around the neighborhood and with people taking uber and such it's been less. we have a lot of events that are 1,000 to 1500 people. >> i'm just struck. so your practice games and other games, you expect your practice is clearly you are not expecting 1,000 people. what kind of games? >> not at all. the from we're expecting 200 kids that's it. the big miscommunication are

these major events of over 1,000 people on the field field between five and 10 of those a year. we're asking for 20 with flexibility but there's between five and 10 of those large events. >> i'm going to counter that. it won't be near 20. i would be surprised if any of those years we had as many as 10. >> yeah. a thousand people is manageable for us. >> i think you want to fill me in on the lights. >> i understand the neighbors are concerned and i'm listening to the things they're expressing and i just want to make sure that people understand that we are investing in the highest level of technology we're using the latest l.e.d. lighting technology in the lights so they're focused on the fields and onlyel feeds so they have

shields impact the neighboring homes so when they're referring to other lights, that haven't worked well yes they're right. rental lights don't work as well that's the lowest technology that they use. south sunset existing lights are not using the latest technology and they're on until the 10:00 p.m. at night at weeknights and we're asking for nine and our lighting minimizing the impact and the 90-foot height pole level which would it will eliminate spill age on to our neighbors and it's important to us. a 90-foot pole equals more focused light. >> one last question, please. i heard at the beginning some concern it was ambiguous whether or not it just referred to the stadium lights or whether it

included the practice field. this is a question for staff. staff, the language is ambiguous or that it's clear that we're just talking about the stadium lighting here. >> i don't know nothing ambiguous about this there's no mention in the case report to the practice field and this motion and this product application is specific to the j.v. field and the lights going on to that field. having hard all of that, i will say that i am in favor of approving the project subject to condition 11. >> clearly the project sponsor has not muted themselves. the sponsor can you mute your telephone and stop talking and listen, that would be great. thank you commissioner diamond i

apologize. >> thank you, very much. i appreciate it as well. i am in favor of approving this project and i believe that conditional 11 which is drafted since this item was continued in june goes a long way to alleviating many of my concerns. i particularly like the feature in the large events management plan that requires an ongoing dialogue between the neighbors and the school and there's a feedback loop so the school can continue to refine because no matter how much we try to perfect condition 11 now, we will see how it plays out and it probably the school will need to modify and response to neighborhood concerns and i would say the only thing i'm not sure about is i am wondering whether the commissioners, the

other commissioners, what they would think about putting a limit on the over all number of lights a year where the school can turn on the lights. i heard the principle say that 150 was the number that they had in mind and so i would be -- i want to put that out there for the other commissioners and get their views on. >> commissioner more. weighing in on this particular question, commissioner diamond, i was a little bit uncomfortable about the message from the principal and the coaches not being one that really clearly agreed on the numbers. the numbers fluctuated and it made me just a little bit uncomfortable. i do understand there needs to be flexibility hard and fast numbers in a dynamic teaching

program cannot be absolute but they can give us a more clear number so we also respond to neighbors' concerns about the frequency of events. that includes classifying which events need the full ride and which events smaller ones could start dimming at 8:30. clarity in numbers will go a long way to really create an extra level of management and predictable tee for neighbors and i think precise numbers will help to create a mutual level of comfort that in deed is some reality to what we are approving and what neighbors ultimately will have to deal with. it will be my response to your

question and i like to redistrict that question to the school's principal and the coach. >> thank you so much for that q i'm happy to provide clarification. we can agree to 150. we liked to give ourselves caution and we don't want to come off as lying to the neighbors if we felt like as it was written is that might have sufficed and i hear you saying it doesn't. you feel like the neighbors need a number. we can agree to 150-6789 also i would be happy to agree to dimming by 8:30. if that helps. we can commit to dimming by 8:30 at night and then turning them off completely by 9:00.

that would give people a little bit of peace of mind. i would also like to see that the emphasis of the use of your fields, primarily deals with your own programs including flexibility in expanding in extracting your own programs and minimizing clubs which is always an issue. it doesn't matter what we approve since we do know the variation i would prefer the use of the fields to direct benefits to your own students. you can control these people and their behavior patterns you know and those are the people who are basically in line and supporting the full functionality and success of what you are investing. that would be my preference.

>> i am leaning towards improve and this is a necessary improvement for recreation access and i think the new conditions of approval to get lights off at 8:30 is what the principal said and setting the number to 150 games a night per year sounds great. >> motion to approve as presented by staff subject to three changes and one, these are all condition 11. one is the first change is that there's a total cap on the number of nights that the lights can be on at one per year at 150 and the second is that not the

nights where we said of this to turn off the lights by 9:00, that would be changed to dimming by 8:30 with the let's of lighty 9:00. in condition b or, maybe i deferred to staff as to where it should go but there's language in here that the use of the lights is intended substantially for the school itself. any use by affiliates should be extremely minimal because all of the arguments about why this is in the best interest of the students don't really apply as much to the a fill ats so i'm in complete agreement with commissioner moore. that would be the motion i would make. >> >> i second the motion. >>

>> the balance between an institutional use and adjacent residential areas is always very delicate. i think the impacts are much more significant than that. >> the project sponsor is speaking into their phone. if you can refrain on mute yourself. we're talking about a separate item now. commissioners, i don't see anything further. then there's a motion that has

been seconded and i will call that question now. the motion was to approve this matter with conditions with amendments to the conditions a of approval limiting the number of -- i believe i captured that motion correctly. on that motion commissioner chan. >> aye. >> commissioner diamond. >> aye. >> commissioner fung. >> no. >> commissioner imperial. >> aye. >> commissioner johnson. >> aye. >> commissioner moore. >> may i clarify the lights

foraforayfofor a fill -- >> well the maker of the motion used that term and she did not include it as a condition of approval and she questioned where it was appropriate to place so if it's not a condition of approval we can put it as a finding. if the make over the motion would like to amend her motion to condition that use of the lights by a fill it's a. would not be permitted -- i thought it was not a condition but a finding and i said minimal, not zero. >> ok, thank you. i misunderstood. i will take my comment back. >> with all due respect, if we added as a condition of approval minimal should be defined with a number or a day or an hour. >> ok, i understand.

so let me ask the principal of the 150, what the maximum number you will have affiliates use this for? >> thank you for your question. just to clarify. >> with that said, it doesn't really address the questions. >> we're looking for a number. >> i'm not sure can i give you the number 20? what would help? >> 20 can we go back to the

definition of affiliate. these affiliated organizations s.i. coach and employees is on the field with those kids. >> it's an s.i. team. is 20 the number? >> so, i could live with 20. commissioner moore, i want to make sure that this is ok with you. >> i am ok with that. i just wanted the definition to minimal so i am fine with if you define it as 20 i will support that? >> >> that's a minimal commissioner chan. >> yes. >> was that me the second? >> yes. >> ok. >> there were a number of

seconds but i believe you chimed in first. so, commissioners, on that amended motion, it has been seconded, to approve the matter with conditions limiting to the over all number of lighted nights to 150 per allowing 20 of those nights to be used by affiliate of the school and dimming to begin at 8:30 p.m. and lights completely off by 9:00 p.m. on that motion commissioner chan. >> aye. >> commissioner diamond. >> aye. >> commissioner fung. >> no. >> commissioner imperial. >> aye. >> commissioner johnson. >> aye. >> commissioner moore. >> aye. >> and commissioner koppel. >> aye. >> so moved. commissioners, that motion passes 6-1. with commissioner fung voting against. commissioners, that will place us under your discretionary

review calender. at 1222 fundsten avenue andization' review and are you prepared and and construction a new four-storey single family residents. this proposal requested two variances the first for planning code section 132 front yard setback and property requires a front setback of 15 feet by code. the proposed single family

residents encroaches into the required front setback providing only five feet of setback. the second for p.c. section 134 rear yard. equal to 45% of the lot depth however this proposed building does not extend into the required rear yard but the building that -- the existing building falls within the required rear yard. so pursuant to zoning administrator interpretation, such a development scenario requires a rear yard variance. the variance request was heard by the zoning administrator at a public hearing on december 5th, 2019. the d.r. requester of 1218 adjacent property to the north is opposed to the project because it will block views to the historic cottage and will box her cottage blocking light to her dwelling and yard. to date the department has

received four letters in opposition and one letter in support of the project. subsequent to the original 311 notification the project was modified by moving the building and lowering the right. this required an additional 15-day notification period during which, the d.r. was filed. these modifications served to further reduce impacts on the light, air and scale to the d.r. applicant and rear cottage of the subject property. on light to adjacent cottages and related to maintaining adequate separation from the rear cottages. the proposed building is consistent with the height and scale of other buildings on the block and the location of the building provides adequate open space and air and light to the adjacent rear cottages.

the fourth-storey is setback 15 feet from the building front to maintain the appropriate scale at the streets and the depth of the proposed building is significantly less than the adjacent building to its immediate south and along with the setback of the fourth floor at the rear adequately maintained excessive light to the d.r. property. staff found that the proposed project has been designed to avoid exceptional or extraordinary circumstances posed by the conditions and recommending not taking discretionary review. this concludes my report and i'm available to answer questions. thank you. >> thank you, david, are you prepared to make your presentation? >> d.r. requester, are you prepared to make your presentation? >> hi, good evening, everybody. my name is rose and i'm the daughter of the requester. could mr. winslow, could you

present my file. i cannot see you. the first page is the simulation in the simulation, we saw all the big houses in our neighborhood but i was is not (inaudible) the plan simulation does not experience it show the impact of the new construction on our home at 1218funston avenue. after the new house is built, our home will be sitting at the owned of a (inaudible). the new house will severely block sunlight to our home and front yard. the grass in our front yard will not receive the houses are 122

winston avenue are too old historical twin houses, they're built in 1908 and 110 years of history. they're the last surviving houses with historical appearances. with the four-storey single family house sitting in the front the charming bill of the 110 year twin home will be lost forever. after the construction, the last grown open space on the block is going to be reduced by half. and it is probable that the remaining half are would not stay green due to the blocking of sunlight by the new construction and this is not good for preserving grown space in our neighborhoods. can you go to the last page, please. there are even worrisome situations. after the construction, the

sidewalk on the eastside of 1200 block of funston avenue will be diminished over six feet. the open space on this project is too much beyond the code and there seems to be no input from the fire department regarding the necessary egress for the small older cabin to the immediate rear of this proposed building. and the height exemptions to the code are very unclear and could even be wrong. and there's not an attempt made to determine that the historical charter and the status of this 19 o 8 structural our neighborhoods are the delight of many residents and visitors who see the amazing preservation as a wonder us quality to san francisco. is this project a good replacement or an excess i have abuse of variances shrinking

open space and we are here to say no to this project because it will have significant impact on us and they should not have four code variance and it should be more compatible with this neighborhood and thank you very much. >> thank you. the d.r. presentation and if so project sponsor are you prepared to make your presentation. you may need to -- >> can you hear me. >> i can. >> great. can we have the first slide. >> jury slides are up and your time is running. so, go to slide one. >> sorry. good evening, commissioners. this is toby morris. representing the project sponsor

mrs. karen woods. the project involves the preservation of an existing legal non conforming cottage and the rear yard of this the subject hr2. and the the proposed new hole facing the street. the cottage was found to be not an historic resource and preservation and ceqa determination and it's been unusual starting with the variance last december and i i guess perration with no dr filed and we were districted to effect additional changes and lessen the impact and before the d.r. filing and early in 2020, third page, please, and we moved the proposed single family home to increase the space between our proposed rear wall and the cottage and slide four, we also

lord the building. with the department outside this time the d.r. was files. slide five, please. our reviewed efforts to discuss the project with the d.r. were rebuffed and you've heard her objections which focus mostly on light and scales of proposal. slide 6, please. as noted in the d.r. analysis, the residential design guidelines called a minimize impacts on light to adjacent cottages, however, the existence is not complying rear yard cros. we're not propose north and the next slide.

the lot is zoned for two units and which worked with to save the representatival at the d.r. requester. mid block open space. originally proposed at 20 feet and then 25 feet, then 27 and a half feet the rear yard open space shown green will provide light and air access it exceeds the requirements and dwelling unit exposure and results in a year yard far exceeding the minimum 45%. given our goal to preserve the cottage, citing the new home

closer to the street asper the a direction and is consistent with best practices and justified the requested front yard variance. slide 11, please. building height, to control building height redepress the garage and took two feet out of the building resulting feelings eight and nine foot clear. the structure is about 37 feet tall with a partial pop up roof. and it includes collaboration and we have achieved an appropriate balance here. the creation of a new dwelling unit and the preservation of an existing one and all the while providing adequate open space and to our neighbors and future residents of surrounding. we asked the commission to take d.r. and approve the project as designed. thank you, i can address the comments in my rebuttal that

we're outlined. >> that concludes the project sponsor presentation we can move on to public comment and through the chair, public comment will be limit today one minute. >> your conference is in question and answer mode. to summen each question. press one and then zero. >> members of the public, this is your opportunity to call into the 800 number press one and zero to enter the cue. >> you have one question remaining. >> can you hear me. >> we can. >> is this ok? >> your time is running, sir. >> sir.

sir, let's go to next caller. you have one question remaining. >> can you hear me. >> we can. your time is running. >> hello. >> yes, sir, your time is running. we can hear you. >> my name is gym and can you hear me. >> i'm not going to say i can hear you four times. is the sidewalk is horrendous and they take up too much of the

sidewalk. this is a pedestrian friendly neighborhood and it takes up too much sidewalks and the open space is ridiculous, this should not be granted. is this neighborhood geography and the sidewalk by grade school kids less than a block away and and they eventually i don't understand how you can grant these variances. and my name is glen and i live at 1216 and right next door and i object i've been a member of the merchants association and i lived here more than 35 years and my family was here in 1904 so i love this and i object to this public sidewalk that we have open space. >> you have zero questions remaining. >> commissioners, that will

conclude the there are no variances i'm aware of. are you prepared to submit your rebuttal. >> you may need to hit star 6 to unmute your telephone. project sponsor are you prepared to submit your rebuttal. >> we he go ahead you have two minutes.

and i want to mention that 20 years ago, is my parents bought a new house at winston avenue with a beautiful green open space if it's not for public good it's for our private good. after the construction, we are forced to own our property and end the of (inaudible). the consideration of this neighbor's again fits benefit. the sponsors should take the neighbor's comments into consideration and this it device is playing again. thank you. >> thank you. project sponsor, you have two minutes for rebuttal. >> thank you. i have a 13th slide if you want to put that up. this was posted, i believe by the d.r. requester on the fence next to the city's notice and she summarizes a lot of things

you heard today so i'm going to just hit each one of these five items. the sidewalk on this block is 1e properties to the south we will remove the (inaudible). and replace it with landscaping. two, gross lot coverage will be 65% as proposed that's less than mr. iven son's home at 1216 funston and a dozen homes to the south. three, it's true we have not got into conversations with the fire marshal and and keeping it in

frontal. the documents are in the plan departments record for the d.r. requester. thank you that decision is pending. it's the public portion of this item and the matter is now before you. >> commission moore. thank you for the presentation. thank you also for the d.r.

requester giving the overview over there concerns. i would like to ask mr. moore is to please bring up a slide and explain your attitude about the sidewalk when you were speaking there was no image up and it was hard to understand how you were responding to that question. >> this is the tenth slide. i do not see it at the moment. here it is, ok, thank you. now it's up. >> ok. so you ask see where it says reduced front yard, you see the property line then is on a-line. >> give us a second. >> the sidewalk is eight feet deep. what the d.r. requester is referring to is that from 1228funston the building step away from the front property

line and most of that is concrete and sidewalk. the perception is you have a 20 or 25-foot -- it's 23-foot sidewalk to the faces of those buildings and that is not the sidewalk. the sidewalk is 15 feet. our attempt to to bring as you can see, a front steps to the property line and to landscape in the front set backs that we're not building in. >> i understand and it's a condition which we see in many parts, you have a lot of these types of conditions. your explanation i think makes it clear. i personally do not see any real issues for this and in my own neighborhood i have a number of old cottages with a larger building in front and it was very building massing in the

front and the back including maintaining of fielding of openness and sufficient separation between the two units. and since this is an i do find this denseification too sensitive and support of thank you and i'm curious to hear from other commissioners. >> i'm as supportive. >> is there a motion? >> commissioner diamond. >> i don't see anything exceptional or extraordinary that would justify taking d.r. so i'm in agreement with moore and koppel. >> would you make a motion? >> sure. i move that we do not take d.r. >> and prove. >> second.

>> seeing no further questions to speak, there's a motion and it's been seconded to not take d.r. and approve on that motion commissioner chan. >> aye. >> diamond. >> aye. >> commissioner fung. >> aye. >> commission imperial. >> commissioner johnson. >> aye. >> commissioner moore. >> aye. >> and commissioner president koppel. >> aye. >> so moved. commissioners, that months passes unanimously 7-0. placing us on item number 18. >> good evening members from the commission david win slow staff architect. correction to what was on the agenda, the item before you is a public initiated request for a discretionary review of building permit application

2018.0628.3202. the dwelling unit. -- the garage and storage space of an existing four-storey five-unit apartment building. there's? physical expansion of the building envelope proposed. it's categorized as a b historic resource and the d.r. requester is jessica alexandra of the san francisco tenants union on behalf of exiting tenants. do you to concern that the illumination of housing services consisting the garden in the rear and the property and bicycle storage space will impact existing tenants. today, the department has received no letters in opposition and no letters in support of the project. the proposed edition of

accessory dwelling units, the accessory telling units relocated services which i am conclude bicycle parking and storage. orally location of tenant services. the protect sponsor as indicated on the grant flor plan dedicate reed placement by parking and storage to pre place existing tenant service and the common area of the rear yard will remain the same and will be access ab to all building residents through the backstairs and breeze way. the opioid of potted plants is not a land use that and beyond the mains of the planning department to regulate or ep force and temporary relocation or retention and replacement has been offered by the project sponsor but is ultimately and

and that temperature approving the project. >> thank you. >> that concludes staff presentation. be prepared to make your presentation. >> i am out of state dealing with a family emergency and cannot be on the same phone line as the actual applicants. i ask since we're doing a duel presentation that you allow them to join in through the public comment or when it's time for the public comment to give them two minutes. >> well, we'll give you three minutes and give them two minutes, how that? >> sounds good. i'm ready. >> the slides are up. >> ok. >> so, in essence, this

application has conflicting city policies, one to encourage the building of additional rental units and one to protect the character of the existing neighborhoods and our city's long-term tenant. over the common air rear space. it's impossible to understand the situation without

understanding the context from which this position from which his position arises and of a

housing service of the rent board to protect the garden and the other in response and if you can go to slide four, there was a memorandum instructing the landlord he could not severe the garden without a just cause. is that my three minutes many of that's the ram 4 the agency provided with a mandate to adjudicate these matters has vetted this issue and provided what amounts to a conflicting recommendation. i know i don't have a lot of time left but i believe if you follow the planning and the storage place and the pots and plants that you see in slide one are the rear common area which

is the storage space and the pots and plants ar plants are wy store there. >> project sponsor, are you prepared to make your presentation. >> the d.r. applicants was going to be given the. >> you could have created a conference line on your end to handle that logistically but let's go to the project sponsor when the d.r. app can't comes up she should make herself known and we'll give her two minutes. project sponsor. >> project sponsor you may need to unmute yourself. >> by pressing star 6. >> is the lo project sponsor

prepared to make a presentation. >> one last time project sponsor. >> let's go to public comment. and the chair of the public comment is limited to one minute and the exception to the d.r. applicant who will receive the remainder of her five minutes which is two. >> your conference in question and answer maud. to summon each question, press one then zero. >> members of the public this is your opportunity to call into the 800 number and press # and 0 to get into the queue. >> you have two questions remaining. >> yes, hi, my name is brian wallace and i live and the and i just want to say this project does not enhance or conserve our neighborhood character for the balance or does it balance the

rights to develop the property and with impact on near five properties and occupants and in small scale residential development this is that area, the states provide with the backyard and currently, not of the blocks the interior blocks and the residential alleys of east soma have a rear yard pattern similar to many of the residents of neighborhoods and in the center of a block these rear yards provide a sense of visual relief and access to open space in this part of the city. in areas where the existing pattern is one of rear yards this pattern should be maintained. thank you, thank you very much.

you have one question remaining. >> you have two minutes. >> i'm sorry. >> you have two minutes. >> ok. hi, my name is clark and i am a horticulturist. we have been living in this building since 199 1999 for 23 years. i began planting at the guard then with permission and encouragement and participation of a former landlord. this space has always been a

common space for all who live here to use as attested by throw letters from current tenants. it's been important during this pandemic and as an outdoor space to utilize and enjoy. and a rare thing in a densely populated neighborhood like soma. this garden is an he's eye thing to do and inconsiderate. we are the only remaining tenants and as such have weatherment many untempts and we have our little apartment and our urban garden despite this continued bullying. our current lapped ford and.

>> project sponsor. >> you have zero questions remaining. >> project response o. last call. >> d.r. you have a two minute rebuttal. >> ok. thank you. i'd like to turn to the last sentence of the planning department's recommendation which reads temporary relocation and retention and replacement and has been offered by the project sponsor but is ultimately the responsibility of whomever owns them. the amended plans are blank with regards to the rear yard and we need to assure here that we understand what is being proposed. it is my understanding the

tenant would not retain the garden or provide a plan for the safe removal and return for those plants. the property owner has stated unequivocally that the garden has to go. furthermore, as above, we dispute the relocation and replacement of the garden rests on the tenants shoulders. i would like to be clerks regardless of what happens here tonight, the landlord condition pursue plans to dismantle the garden without evicting the tenants from that space. the planning commission neither has the authority or the jury i diction to to modify their proposal to accommodate the gardens. as one additional issue, the storage space provided is insufficient and it provides one shelf and the tenants should have two shelves which is a

fairly minor issue that i think we can dealt with pr appropriat. i urge you to protect the tenants housing service and pre vend the landlord from using this session and storage space. >> thank you that's your time. i'm going to make one last call to the project sponsors if you are prepared to make a presentation. you may need to hit star 6 to unmute your telephone. project sponsor, one last time. the matter is now closed and it's now before you. >> commission moore. >> i would like to get more

clarification from mr. winslow. would you know about the retention of the garden in deed the drawings are vague and do not that address. the maintaining of the garden is identifying the building with adus and i would like to hear from you of what you no about this guard issue? >> sure, thanks, that statement was included in the analysis was based on a meeting that we had with mr. alexandra and the project sponsor and it was made without commitment and there was no record of it in writing and it was essentially a sentiment that stated from the project sponsor that he was willing to look at ways that relocating the plants while a construct took place.

>> i would like to state i that i think the retaining of the garden is an integral park of adding adus and because densification of the property requires that with that many units and the building, an open space was desirable and played a role in the larger appreciation of the neighborhood. i'd like to address another issue and bring to the commission's attention and i believe that the replacement of the storage and bicycle as well as garbage disposal into this breeze way is insufficient for building of that sides and i will the a.d. you labeled as number six in the plan drawing a 100 is efficient of being a reasonably sized and reasonably

designed living unit with 240 square feet and an 11-foot cross dimension you can bearly get a bed in there let alone light and air. i think this particular unit should be taken out and i believe that proper storage for a building with six units should be provided in that area i would like that person to turn off the television because i hear myself speak with an eco. >> thank you. >> that said, i'd like the commission to really consider that any building, rental or otherwise, requires some form of storage in the basement, which is in deed the d.r. request is described anna men tee and right by those who lived in the building for a long time and i

ask we take out that adu number six and put storage in there and also support the full restoring of the rear yard with its plans as anna men tee to the tenants in the building. i would be interested to hear what other commissioners have to say. >> thank you. i'd like from the d.r. requester and just helping us understand the line between what is happening with the tenants and.

>> the garren is part of the lease. help us a understand a little bit about if the landlord does relocate the garden and put it back, is that also considering of severe ability of service and also, through the rent board, is there an option if this is removed and put back for a period of time, the landlord and the tenant together comes to an agreement about a reduction in services temporarily. can you give us more information about what happened during that process? >> d.r.q. you may need to unmute

yourself by pressing star 6. >> d.r. requester, did you wish to respond to commissioner johnson's question? >> i don't know what to say. >> i have a concern not hearing from the project sponsor. i'm not experienced not hearing from both sides and how do we move forward without hearing from the other side.

in reviewing the case packet, understanding more, there are issues that are on rodents and other tenant safety so i feel like i'm not sure that i have enough information. those are my comments right now. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> hello. >> my understanding is chapter 65a of the san francisco administrative code applies only to retro fits. and then it doesn't permit the landlord to require a tenant to remove housing services temporarily and you were correct, they're able to workout a representative reduction. the reason that the project sponsor has specified that he requires the removal of the garden is to stage construction. well, if you -- to me that means the building of these adus,

which is not covered by 65a of the san francisco administrative code and it's not covered by the rent ordinance, there's no just cause to remove a housing service because you want to build adu in the garage and that's the significant difference. the property owner has made many outrageous accusations and unsubstantial claims against these tenants and i urge to you ignore those and focus on the issue at hand. with regards to rodents, there was early on in their tenancy and the d.r. applicant can address this, there's not been

any rodents in the guard for years there's no evidence of such and there's no reports from the department of building inspections and there's no exterminator treating the area and so that's a nonissue. >> thank you, it is applicable to this case because i think that there's discrepancy about the garden and exactly why things are being removed so it's important as well. i appreciate your comments. >> commissioner diamond. >> i'm having a problem in coming to a decision without the project sponsor being on the phone to answer several of these questions and including whether or not the small a.d.u. meets

minimum code requirements and i assume mr. winslow, you looked at this issue. it's whether or not we can determine and i don't know whether the storage is too small or not because i don't know what the code requirements are around that because it's very uncomfortable to me to make a decision today without having more information. >> i did not say it's code compliant but it's a liveability point of view and there's no one who has a room that is 11-foot and it can get a bed in and a table and a desk or anything with just a minimum requirement for wokable unit given the awkward shape of the space being used here. >> i agree. it seems extremely tight back there. between the corridor and the

left-hand side the storage area and the adu and the entrance to the washer and dryer. [please stand by]

>> i were like to have the project sponsor be in this hearing before moving forward

and, also, in terms of the relocating or what's being proposed earlier, the re revocan and i'm in favour of continuance. >> i move to continue this for about a month until -- i'm not sure whether the project sponsor will be here any time soon, but i think a month will be good. , but i believ.we'll be in rece.

>> yes. your first available hearing date is december 3rd. >> can you hear me? >> this is the project sponsor. did you just decide to join us? >> no, i've been on listening to you since 1:00 today and i have a 6-year-old and i ran home and somebody called me, my partner called me and said they're talking about it now and i've been trying to get on this call. i deeply apologize. >> arso commissioners, i'm justo to remind you that at 9:00,

we're going to have to pause this hearing and migrate to a second live event the way we did previously and so, this will more than likely be our last item for now before we migrate. project sponsor, you have five minutes. >> ok. sorry, we are required to do this off-story retrofit trying to create additional dwellings and it was interesting, i heard one of the commissioners say that the space looks small and i agree. i thought it was small, but it's entirely within code. san francisco has size requirements and we've met those size requirements. i even brought it up with the lead architect and they said this is standard for some cities

and so, we've gone with it. and i will -- i would like to say that the garde garden in thk is beautiful. if you could see it, it's beautiful. but in order to do the seismic retrofit work, we've had three bids from three different construction groups and they've all requested to be able to have the back as a staging area where they can put their equipment and so on and, you know, maybe they don't need all of it, but they definitely need some of it and i'm not sure if jessica mentioned it, but we have had issues wit tenant in the past threatening us with violence and there are police reports and sheriff reports that substantiate this and so we're trying to work wit tenant in order to get this project done.

and the city would like us to do this work and the only way that it seems to do the work is to move the plants or, at least, some or most of them and they are in pots and there are some planted trees that are in the ground, but the rest of the garden is potted and is mobile. and i believe that this project should take six to nine months to complete, but one of the things i have done is i've reached out to a friend of mind who works at park and rec and they were saying that they could maybe try to find a place for the potted plants and we can have them watered there. i do know that one of the tenants who brought this to you to discretionary review is a manager at flor grub and maybe we can find some space there take care of the plants.

we're trying to create additional dwelling for the city and i think that's our goal and in one of the cases that you talked about earlier, the guy said when you have to do foundation work and things like that, it's very expensive and this is true. this has been $800,000 project and it would be nice to have some additional dwelling at the end of the project. we have been back and forth with david on the plans many times and we have looked at the leafs which promises the tenant one three by one-foot shelf and we've made accommodations for that. and so jessica is talking about an elimination of services and we see no elimination of services. we're giving them the one by three-foot shelf and access to put the plants back in the garden afterward. there is one issue and that's

that we have a vietnamese restaurant and we have had some vermonvermon issues in the past. an exterminated found the vermon breeding in the plants and a lot of rat feces and said that the plants are too close together and should be spaced out. they will need to be less dense and not promote the breeding of vermon. i don't think the tenants like anybody in their plants and it is a common area to be used by the entire area. and we have a sheriff's report from a tenant that we had where it's stating that one of the two ten wants with the plants threat

him and that's in the sheriff's report. and so we have to find a solution to moving the plants so that we can do this work and i hope that we can do it in an amenable way that makes everybody happy. thank you. >> thank you. and so, i'm not sure the dr requester's presentation, but you are afforded a two-minute rebuttal. project sponsor, did you have anything? >> for a rebuttal? >> right. >> no, i've said what i needed to say, i think. >> great. thank you. >> project sponsor?

>> yes. >> i'm not sure if you were also on earlier after the comment of the previous or other commissioners, especially with commissioner moore, also, questions in terms of the relocation or the bicycle storage elimination and whether we're going to be interested to relocate the bicycle storage. >> well, there was an allocated amount of bicycle storage and we've reached out to a company that does ironworks and we are looking at designing wall hanging bicycle hooks in the area that should accommodate the same amount of bicycles that are presently in the storage downstairs. we did try and propose a bike

shed and garbage shed in the back common area, but that would encroach on some of the potted plants and, also, perhaps, that is a reason we're in discretionary review because the tenant feels like the entire common area belongs to them and their potted plants rather than to the entire buildings' useable space. >> and in terms of the access to the potted plants and those have been -- so what is your plan in terms of, like, as the construction is going on and this will be, i'm assuming going to be relocated and has there been any kind of agreement with the tenant that the plants will be turned back?

>> well, we spoke with a landscaping company that was going to create like a useable area for all of the tenants and one of the interesting thing about the building is right next to the university of pacific dental school, and i think there are six tenants in there now who go to the school and they're all friendly but have no common area to meet. so we were thinking of having a landscaper resign the back with the tenants to bring back as many of the plants as they could with some couches and maybe a barbecue or something like that, but, you know, again, we're in discretionary review because the tenants believe that the entire common area belongs to them and their personal affairs and potted plants. and so if the commission doesn't agree that we should use the backyard for everybody, then, of course, we will leave it empty and when the construction is over, the tenants can return the plants as they wish.

>> so the tenant, it's not in their lease or is it in their lease? >> there is nothing in the lease about the garden. they're in the lease and the only statement of services is a one-by three-foot shelf and we're providing that shelf to them. and, you know, for the sake of being hard sale, clark is an extraordinary gardener and the garden -- the potted garden area is very beautiful. and i would like to retain it, but, you know, we have these two challenges and one is that none of the other tenants can use this area. they can't sit around in a group. you know, there's one wooden chair and a bench that holds two people and, perhaps, three and the rest is potted plants and their personal affairs. and if the commission wishes that they have all that space returned to them after the construction, then they can return all of that to the space.

but i think it would behoove all tenants to have a useable space for all of them to use. but this would be a commission decision. i'm willing to work with them. i've been trying to work with them, but it's sort of like any time you get near any of the plants, they become outraged. in fact, one of the tenants threatened me with foul language for hitting within of his plants with, like, a plant branch with a ladder. so it's a tricky situation, you know. >> it is. and thank you for your comments and also coming back to the hearing. imagine you're an artist and you're creating this beautiful potted plant art and then all of a sudden, it has to be moved or

changed. you know, it's threatening and i feel for them, but i think they, like me, i don't particularly want to do this work. it's a lot of work for me and it's very expensive, but the city wants us to do it. and the city also while we're doing this work to add new housing to the stock. and so, we've worked to create, you know, completely everything is according to code and so we have the larger unit and the smaller unit and they're perfectly according to code. i think we've met off obligations to provide them with the shelf and bike space and, i think we'll get creative with how we do the racks and i think it will be really beautiful. and hopefully we can work together in an amicable way to design a new potted-plant garden that's good for everybody.

that's my hope. >> well, thank you for that. i'm trying tcommissioner impro u accidentally mute yourself? >> yes, i'm trying to figure out in terms of what the planning commission jurisdiction, whether the garden is part of our decision but in terms of the adu's as being put in front of us, where two adu's being added, and yeah, i am -- >> excuse me, if i could correct that. there's only one adu added.

there's a unit that is a replacement for an existing unit that was merged without the benefit of a permit. >> oh, ok. and that is not part of the dr, the unit number 17 merge without the permit? >> it's all part of the same project that's under your consideration. >> i purchased the building not understanding it was not done with a permit and i think working with david and natalia in the city, they said we could join the two units and call it a single unit and instead of saying we're adding two units, we add one and all of the electric meters and all of that will line up.

>> commissioner moore. >> mr. winslow, would you be so kind to take us through unit six, about quality of life as well as dimension of the unit? i personally to not believe a unit that is 11-foot and one inch wide is sufficient to have a bed in there. by square footage, may squeak by but by dimension it doesn't seem to work.

i was just wondering if you could hear me, thank you. would the for-foot window and a dimension that doesn't even get a bed into the space, this is a very difficult thing for me to see this works. further to the fact that the entrance to both units is taken what is now basically the entrance and exit for roll out the garbage cans and this is a very substandard unit? more than one way.

i would like to say that it was always my understanding whoever that the plants in the garden, it is still a garden for all. i live in a multiunit residential building, it is there for all of the of u all oi may not have understood the background. my understanding is that the school districtyard would need to be used by all. >> if i may. , th, the applicants didsubmit r tenants at the property which

are in your packets. >> thank you. commissioners, i'm going to remind you again that at 9:00, we'll need to break to the second light event in order to continue the public hearing. members who are on call will not need to do anything, but the project sponsor and the dr requester. >> just to confirm what commissioner moore did say, that the rear yard is open space for all residents in this building. by code. >> my question, though, is the proper dimensioning of the small adu, unit number 6, as to whether that is workable or substandard. >> and so, by building code 120.

1207.4, in an existing building may be 220 square feet provided that area has a 7.6 clear ceiling height and, you know, a kitchen and bathroom and a closecloset and this may not loo you like it works, but it meets the letter of the code from the standpoint of who regulates the dimensional requirements through dbi. that being said, whether it works or not, it meets the code. >> i consider it substandard, but again, that is my own impression of how this thing would really work, given the dimensions of real furniture in a space of this length and width. but i'm curious what other

commissioners have to say. >> commissioner fung. >> i think some of the issues that have been brought forth are really intended for final decision-making at the red board and not our board. that applies to the rear yard issues. and i'll take it to not moving

the permit. >> second. (role call).

>> that motion passes 6-1 with commissioner moore voting against. >> at this moment, we will need to recess and reconvene in the second live event that was forwarded to all of you via email. project sponsors, dr requesters, you have also received an invitation to join us in a second live event. this is due to the ms team's time restrictions and so, we will recess for about five minutes and rejoin everyone in the second live event.

again, find the live event invitation in your email box and join that event. i will migrate over there shortly and we will rebridge and hopefully, without any technical difficulties, we can resume this hearing. we will recess >> welcome back to the san francisco hearing and we have reconvened into our second nine-hour session and hopefully we will not take up of duration of the nine hours and commissioners, we left off under your discretionary review calendar. having not taken dr on item 18, placing this on item 19 for case 2019-1069 at 624 street and this

is a discretionary review. >> good evening. i'm david winslow. the item before you is a public initiated request for discretionary review for application 2019 to construct a one-story, 514 square foot vertical addition on top of two-story family residence. in addition to the vertical addition, the project would construct a new roof deck set back from the building edge and the new vertical addition includes a shaped sloped roof falling within the limits of the planning code expec is a historl resource. and the dr requesters, brian neighbofabian is concerned thate building is not articulated to light is privacy to their rear yard and the noise will impact

his privacy and his proposed alternatives are to one, set back the third floor 15 feet from the rear and two, design a dual pitch to lessen the impact of privacy and three, reduce the size of the windows and use translucent glass and remove the roof deck and lastly, to provide sound insulation in the adjoining wall. to date, the department has received no letters in opposition and five letters in support of the project. the department's residential design found the building is minimized impact to light to the adjacent properties and the project is north of the dr requester, which naturally minimizes impact to the light of their property. it's set back 15 feet to maintain a skat a compatible wa.

this aligns with the main rear wall of the dr requester. the roof has a slope that pitches away from the neighbors to minimize massing. the rear windows are sized and located appropriately and so as not to provide any exceptional intrusion of privacy this is not considered in the application of the guideline regarding privacy. the roof deck at the front is modest in size and serves a bedroom and set back five feet and therefore, staff recommends not taking discretionary review as there are no exceptional or extraordinary circumstances. and this concloud concludes my presentation and i'm available to answer questions. thank you. >> dr requester, are you prepared to make your

presentation? you may need to hit star 6 in order to un-mute yourself. is the dr requester with us? is the project sponsor with us? >> this is the project sponsor. why don't you go ahead and start your presentation and we'll get your slides up in one second and i'll let you know when they're up. >> ok. >> your slides are up and you have five minutes. hello, i'm an social architect at architect nation, inc, and second slide, please. and i'm a resident for the past ten years and while in --

>> sorry, can you hear me now. >> we can, but we've already allowed the project sponsor to go forward so you'll have to wait until his presentation is done. >> understood. >> next slide. we're on the chronology of ep engagement slide. we held a pre-application meeting wit neighbors to discussion the proposed project and the dr requester, brian fabian attended and provided a letter outlining his primary concerns and we emailed him copies of the drawings and offered to sketch a photograph from his yard and on april 17th, we received three photos from mr. fabian and

following on the 25th, mr. fabian, we sent mr. fabian a handdrawn sketch for the location of the proposed addition and on december 16th, 2020 -- excuse me, on may 6th, 2019, mr. fabian responded. we provided all letters to the planning department for review and on may 20th, 2020, we confirmed with david winslow were that the openers are interested and we confirmed that we would be interested in setting up a reconciliation meeting.

we feel the windows are not overly large or expansive and that would be the master-level window size and we also added a vertical architectural fin spoto the proposed windows and that was in the 31 311 drawings, as well. in response to noise concerns,

the owners determined to work with the schedules to determine ideal time. and the owners intend to inform the builder of any noise-related complaints that may arise due to unscheduled noisy work or work that occurs outside of the predetermined hours. and slide six, please, and this is a site plan and the building is set back 15 feet to preserve the preservation requirements from the front of the building and the rear is really the only place to locate a third-floor addition and the dr requester also claims that there was a 30-inch high rear deck built and this type of improvement does not need an improvement.

slide 7 is an aerial view of the property. >> project sponsor, that is your time, but you will be afforded a two-minute rebuttal. >> ok, that's fine. >> yeah, so dr requester, we muted you because we could hear your television in the background creating an echo. so hit star 6 to un-mute yourself. >> i think i'm un-muted. can you hear me now. >> we can. you have five minutes. >> sorry about the technical difficulties earlier. i want to thank the commission for giving me this time to speak. my wife and i have homeowners who live directly next door and we filed this because we did what we could to communicate our concerns but they have not been willing to work with us that the third story would have on us and the quality of life. we don't like being in a situation.

however, they've never made an attempt to talk with us how that would affect us. there was a concern about how this would impact us and talk to us, we might not be here today. our primary concern is the project's lack of neighborhood scale and common character and the resulting negative impact it will have on our privacy and quality of life. and the addition is poorly scaled largely because there is to dual-pitched roof or rear setback to the addition and the addition would create a large passing of structure that is out of scale with our block and our neighborhood is one of single-family homes and this would feel like a high density condo. the three-story homes all have a common feature, dual-pitched roofs and setbacks in the rear and this feature allows for the additional square footage and fits the neighborhood. this towers us and impacts our privacy out on our deck in the yard. the stated purpose for 101 is to

provide adequate light air and privacy and this will create a special situation where we as a next door neighbor will suffer a significant loss of privacy. and there's to rear setback that could provide a transition from the private space of 64mulcher street to ours. this will create a large flat facade with large windows that look directly into our deck and outdoor living space and it will cause us to feel boxed in as it will rise more than eight feet from the fence line. this is a great example of how a three-story house can lessen the privacy impacts on the immediate neighbors and this neighbor has a dual pitched roof and smaller windows and fits with our neighborhood and does not impact our privacy. next slide, please. we're concerned about the loss of privacy from increased noise pollution from a third-story

addition and lots are so tight, we share walls causing new construction remodeling take place and our privacy and quality of life is negatively affect on the other hand a daily basis because we constantly hear neighbors, whether it, their nanny singing to their kids, dogses running up and down the hallway or running appliances in the kitchen. we're concerned about the noise from the kitchen. our home will feel like a construction zone for a year. next slide, please. the proposed addition is another in a long series of renovations by our neighbors that will impact our privacy and quality of life. just this past month, they have constructed a large raised deck

in a backyard that is employing an unlicensed contractor. it is so high it gives clear sight lines. if this is approved, they will have a large third-story addition over the back deck and yard, as well. this unlicensed construction is currently under review by the department. building inspection for possible code violations. if you could advance to the last slide, that would be great. and finally, we're concerned about such a large construction project because of our small lots and tight proximity especially during the covid pandemic and my wife has worked from home for the past six years and i've been working from home since march. the previous kitchen remodel made it difficult for her to work and that was a minor represenrenovation.

this would literally turn our home into a construction site and during the small kitchen remodel, our house would literally shake during cop instruction anconstruction. i work at ucsf and this will be a long time before i'm allowed back in my office because of covid and this construction would make it impossible to do my job. to help mitigate these effects, we have suggested a dual pitched roof, smaller windows in the back and sound-proofing of new insulation and a shared south-facing walls and additionally, we want -- >> that's your time. >> escrow account be established for alternate workspace for this construction period. thank you for your time. >> i believe you cap hear me

wheyou can hear me.you will be e rebuttal. we should go to public comment and through the chair, members of the public will be afforded one minute. >> operator: your conference is now in question and answer mode. to summon each question, press one and then zero. >> members of public, this is your opportunity to call into the 800 number, press 1-0 to get spot queue. >> operator: you have one question remaining. >> question: hello. my name is guy barbaro and i live kiddie-corner. i want to be clear that i did submit a letter in opposition and so it's not zero, i can provide -- send in an email

showing i did email. the 4/9 meeting, i did not receive it and when i brought it up, they said we put it in everyone's box and i did not hear until afterwards. complaint 20204711, they keep saying it's 30-inches above the ground and there's a misunderstanding it's 30-inches above the grade and the inspector said it's five feet above the grade and that's why they can see the neighbor's yard and house. he doesn't plan to issue a violation notice and my concern is that this should not be approved because that height requires a variance and -- >> that's your time. >> it takes up one third of their backyard. >> operator: you have zero

questions remaining. >> dr requester, you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> yes, first of all, i was personally aware of three letters of opposition that were submitted and so, i'm a little curious as to why they're not recorded into the public record here. and in regards to the architects, we never received any notice that the neighbors intended or wanted to have a meeting of reconciliation with us and that is news to us. i do not know why we were not contacted and told that michael and winny wante winnie wanted a reconciliation meeting. we tried to engage and i went to the pre-application meeting and we explained our concerns. and we exchanged a few emails and they sent a handdrawn sketch showing what this proposed

addition would look like and the communication just stopped and so i don't understand what they're talking about as far as, you know, they tried to reach out. and additionally, that offer to provide insulation of the walls, sound-proofing is a major issue and problem with us and we request that actual effective sound-proofing measures be undertaken in this project and not just simple insulation we put in the walls because we tried that on our own home and it's not effective. >> you have 30 seconds. >> that's all for my rebuttal. >> great. project sponsor, you have a two-minute rebuttal.

>> yes, hello. if you have a chance to bring up slide ten of the project slides, we think the project definitely fits with the neighborhood, on the street, which consists of two and three-story buildings, and it fits with the scale for 514 square foot addition and we think that it fits the mixed pattern on the block. and we don't feel like a setback, a major setback is a reasonable request. it would be very hard to fit any more space if we had a setback at the front and a setback at the back and it would make the addition sort of a mute point. and the scale of the roof is set back from the property line or the sloped or pitched roof that we have in the project and that

does not -- it has a setback from the side of the property line where those upper clear windows are. and the deck that was spoken about in the rear yard is on top of an existing slope rear yard. it is sloped and it is located 30-inches above the grade and we've been working directly with building inspectors to verify that we're in compliance with that. and we don't believe the windows are overly sized. thank you. >> thank you. commissioners, that concludes the public comment portion of this hearing and the matter is before you.

>> i'm supportive of the staff recommendation. >> i pushed a button and i am also supportive of the staff's recommendation and i think it would help the commission, as well as the audience to hear that it is being referred to as being illegal is, indeed, built to standards which do not require a variance at 30-inches. i think the limit is three feet, if i'm correct or even 40-inches and mr. winslow would comment on that. it would help to set the record straight and i find the extension and the design of the

proposed addition -- i'm supportive of it and just would like a clarification for the public record. >> yes, david winslo, staff architect and the deck is not a part of this application and it sounds like it was something that was previously built and has a notice of -- not necessarily a notice of violation but a complaint registered against it. the code allows decks to be built up to 30-inches above grade within the required rear yard and they do not require a variance and that is the surface of the deck, obviously, guardrails and handrails can exceed that. for having that -- just by having that explanation, i would like to not have the commission be impaired in the judgment that there's something that is potentially illegal that requires us to wage again and i

would make a motion that it is approved as is. >> i don't need to comment. it's ok. >> excellent. commissiocommissioners, a secons been seconded. pai pair (role call). >> this passes unanimously 7-0 and places us on our final dr of the evening, item 2019 at

1856 29th avenue and i will remind members of the public that there was an item that fell off of consent that we will hear after this. mr. winslow, i believe you're on mute. good evening, again, president and members of the commission, david winslow, staff architect and the item before you is a public initiated request for a discretionary review of building permit application 2019.517.1 2019.517.1.1003 set back from the front building wall and to

confront front and rear decks over single-family house and it adds a dwelling unit with a fill-in of an existing room on posts. work associated with the adu is to be filed under separate permit and all scopes of work related to the adu qualify for minimum staiministerial review d therefore, the decision correctionary review may only be filed for the work not related to the adu. the adjacent neighbors to the south of the proposed project are concerned that the proposed project will impact light and the structural integrity of their foundation and to date, the department has received 11

letters in opposition and no letters in support of the project. the department's residential design advisory team has reviewed this and found this is appropriately set back and partially obscured by the repair at the front and extends no further than the main rear building wall to maintain appropriate scale at the street and the rear and the existing deck over the existing two-story rear pop-out is set back five feet and modestly sized and serves -- it's set back from the line building walls. however, residential design guidelines to feel that light wells be matched and there is no matching light well at the third well of the neighbor to the south. and therefore, sort o staff recs a three foot by three foot. and therefore, staff recommends

taking dr and approving with this modification to incorporate that and that concludes my presentation and i'm available to answer questions. thank you. >> mr. winslow, does that conclude staff presentation? >> yes, it does. did you not hear me in. >> no, i did hear you. i wasn't paying attention. i apologize. >> that's ok. >> dr requester, sorr are you prepared to make your

presentation? you may need to press star 6 to un-mute yourself. project sponsor, are you prepared to make your presentation? >> i'm ready to present, if you can hear me. >> i can, go ahead and present. you have five minutes. >> so i would like to address the dr requester's issues here. our project here, we're adding a modest addition to a home and badly needed addition for a growing family and we have addressed in previous -- we've worked with the planning department and addressed previous comments that the planning department had regarding light wells and this

was related to the light well in the north side of the property and it was never requested of us that we to match the adjacent light well at the south side of the property. however, we are willing to figure out how we can reconfigure the plan to do this, if needed, but it must be added that the light well in the requester's property does not serve any bedrooms or any rooms that require light for the code and, also, the fact that our building is to the north of the requesters' property and never cast any shadows on that property. and with regard to the requester's comments about the nature of the work and the impact of the infrastructure and the quality of light, we've tried our best to respond to his

concerns and as the email core correspondence between him and my client, the owner of the property and seems to be at an improve pasimpasse and we're wio start at 9:00 and finish at 5 and there's any noise-making machinery and we do see this wouldn't be a very long period of time during the construction of the project since the foundation work can happen pretty quickly. and the project here is a very modest project and meets with the planning code requirements and we've worked hard with the planning department tailor it and meet the requirements and it's a badly needed project for my client who needs to have more space for his family and his parents and to help with his growing family and it is

something that we request that the dr not be taken on and it would set a bad precedence, particularly the fact that the requesters' concerns are due to noise and construction and we have to make sure this doesn't happen to the client's property and he intends to live here during this work and he'll phase this project in two phases starting with the downstairs work is proceeding with the upstairs work so the family can stay in the property while this is going on and so it's in his best interests to ensure the safety of the property during construction on both properties, for that matter. and finally, just for the request that the planning commission and deny the requesters' dr.

>> very good, dr requester, are you question us? >> question, this is kevin moore and jose pardell. >> you have five minutes. dr requester, did we lose you again? >> can you hear us? >> i hear you. your time is running. thermr. pardell, you do first fr two minutes. >> we live next door at

1860 29th avenue and have lived here 22 years as the homeowner and we oppose this oversized structure and it's inappropriate because our homes are not fully detached and the proposed structure is incompatible with the neighbors home scale and character. we delivered fliers to the neighbors and we are grateful for the 29th avenue ortega street and the neighbors who sent in comments. there were 11 letters in opposition. and the proposed third-floor addition may affect our mid-day to late afternoon sun exposure and we are concerned of lots of natural light in the stairwell that will result in the structure next door is approved. the proposed structure does not take into consideration the need

for additional parking resulting from an increase from two bedrooms to six bedrooms. there are several senior citizens living in homes across the street from us who are advanced age. they deserve to live their lives in peace and quiet and please do not burden them with excessive construction noise and disruption for an indeterminant length of time. my son and i work during this covid situation and my wife baby-sits our granddaughters and this disruption for a period of two years is too burdensome. we ask that the permit be not approved. thank you.

>> i represent the pardells, this is a modest construction project is completely untrue. this converts this into two units, and one four-bedroom, three bath unit and even though it's not before the commission, we believe that this violates section 207c4c2 because the only way to accommodate this is to increase the height of the building which would be violatee that provision and we also believe that there are a number of building code problems with regard to the proposed construction. first, if you look on page 32 of your packet, sheet 8.12 shows a light well on the left side of the building which terminates on top of the second floor bathroom and that condition, obviously, requires a roof above the second-floor bathroom and the

design is silent as to how that roof would drain without water running into the neighboring property in building cold section 110.121 and the planning department's proposed light well will create a similar problem with the same building code section because they'll have to be an added roof with regard to the staircase to accommodate the light well and that proposed light well also will affect the pit on the third floor and the sky lights because it actually eliminates part of the parapit and so these those sky lights will no longer conform to the code with regard to fire safety issues and so, those sky lots will either need to be moved or be fire rated assemblies and if they are fire rated assemblies, then the parapit should be removed because that may reduce some of the shading from the

roof, as well. and finally, the proposed roof plan on sheet a1.3, page 33 of your packet also shows significant problems with the proposed roof and front roof deck in that they create two bathtub situations where water will be trapped. and the water will have to migrate on to the neighboring properties in violation again of building code section 1101.2.1. and we also believe that the proposed roof deck on the back of the yard is an intrusion upon both of the neighbors properties and finally, just with regard to the look and feel of the neighborhood, this is the only third -- this will be the only three-story building in the immediate vicinity of these homes and it will create a significant different look for the remainder of the

neighborhood. >> thank you, that is your time. you will have a two-minute rebuttal at the end. commissioners, we should take public comment at this time. >> operator: to summon each question, press 1-0. >> this is your opportunity to submit your public testimony by calling the 800 number, pressing 1-0 to enter the queue and through the chair, each member will be afforded one minute. >> no calls. >> excellent. >> dr requester, you have a two manufacture minute rebuttal. >> thank you. at a minimum, we believe that the commission needs to require the owner of the property to address the following issues before any permit is approved for this project and first, they need to confirm how the area

calculatings for the first floor adu are calculated because it appears the condition space calculation of 500 square feet is off. and second, they need to confirm how the third-floor addition construction will be designed to address potential impact to move drainage on to additional property and third, they need to design the third elevation won't go adjacent to neighboring project walls and four, they need to confirm whether or not any supplemental foundation work need to be performed to support the third floor addition and to address possible impacts on the two neighbors properties because there's literally to space between the properties and the design is silent with regard to any structural consideration, let alone any water management consideration and finally

confirm how the roof located in the light wells will be drained to ensure proper market of stormwater away from the neighbors properties. stated simply right now, this project needs to have further review from the commission so that if it does go forward, it addresses the neighbor's concerns. >> is that the end of your rebuttal? >> yes, it is. i thought that was my time. i apologize. >> you've got 20 seconds left, 15. >> the only other thing that we would ask is that you also consider the parking concerns that mr. pardell discussed. we don't believe that the planned expansion and the adu addresses the concerns.

>> i would like to respond to the requesters. we're happy to provide all of that information. we regards to the drainage and details, it is our full intention to provide all of the the details. this level of information is not provided until the addendum phase but i'm happy to work with planning staff and provide that information and this is something that is obviously a necessity to build this property and we fully intend to do this. and so i'm happy to provide those details. with regard to the foundation, this is something we've discussed and we have a plan that will be done in sections and it will be the excavation is not a lot and essentially replacing the slab and we are aware of the foundation and we

know how these were built and our experience as structural engineers here, we're specialists in these types of situations and so, we have a plan in place for dealing with that and ensuring that there's no movement in the foundation when that happens. and with regard to the light wells, these will all be draining away from the property and any drains in these light well roofs are equipped with an area drain and a back-up and overflow and that's a standard detail for any construction. and i think that's it. >> you have 30 seconds. >> yeah, again, it's just regarding the parking and this is a single-family home with an adu that will be used by the family and it will be for his

extended family and adu's are not required to provide off-street parking and there is one parking remaining in the garage and an extra spot available in the driveway and i think that's it. >> fantastic. commissioners, that concludes the public comment portion of this item and it is now before you. commissioner mar. >> i would be interested in asking the applicant of how you think you would be able to accommodate the light well the department is asking for since the building has existing stairs, it looks like as if it would be required to rearrange the entire interior circulation to accommodate that. can you respond to that? >> this is a very valid concern

and you rightly pointed out that it will actually impact the la layout quite substantially. and the way the stairs comes down, we might propose -- currently, there's no lightwell on our building at the existing roof. the way the stairs comes down, it may only be required to extend a little bit above the roof and i would have to check the section and confirm that. if we could keep it to a limited height, maybe that's something that might be acceptable. if it doesn't fit, and we would have to reconfigure the entries there and figure out how that works. >> that would make the building, obviously, significantly more expensive. i've been wondering, since the existing building does not have a late well and has existed that way since it was built, the question i wanted to actually ask mr. winslow is the

following, if you go to the roof plan if you would move the skylights further to the fort nh so you would not need the power pad for fire separation, would that not enable you to create a better light into the adjoining light well because the parapit creates an additional shadow? for the commissioners, the sky lights, are there four of them and three that sit on the property line and pa because thy sit on the property line, there's a parabed that creates additional shadow of the light well to the house? by moving them to the left, that would be the north, more natural light would automatically, without creating a light well,

create additional access to light into the adjoining light well of the adjoining property. mr. winslo, could you respond to that, please? >> very good point and i think that is one way of accomplishing it. i think, also, as the project sponsor was eluding to, there might be a way of lowering the roof height in the landing area since the landing is at a lower eelevation than the third floor and if that could be accomplished to at least provide a little bit more relief, then simply the third story wall going up full height, plus the 30-inch parapit parapit to prote sky lights of the property line, i think that would go a long way towards meeting that guideline.

>> i think we do need to accommodate something that should not be requiring to relocate stairs which is more costly and also quite a detrimental effect to the way the building is laid out. >> understood. the other thing that might help justify this is that what we're talking about is north of the light well in question, and so, it's not really subject to light well we're trying to respond to is not subject to as much direct sunlight as if it were another orientation. >> it is an indirect shadow of a parapit making it look more massive and for impacting and that's why i'm suggesting to move the skylights. i'm personally comfortable with what is proposed here, that is an amenable move for the

applicant, i would suggest that the commission take dr and instead of asking for the creation of a light well, ask for the skylights to be moved up the property line by five feet together with potentially lowering the roof over the stair to create as much light into the adjoining light well. >> is that a motion? >> that is a motion, yes. >> and mr. winslow makes sure my facing of the motion reflects what needs to be done? something we say something and sometimes it's not properly captured. can you help me properly put that into a motion. >> i would say lower the ceiling height above the landing and the stair and move the skylights to not require parapit in order to

match the neighboring light well as much as possible. >> second. >> and was that an accurate reflection of your intended motion, commissioner moore? >> yes, it is, thank you. >> very good, then, commissioners and if there is nothing further, there's a motion that has been seconded to take dr and to approve the project with the conditions read into the record by commissioner moore and reiterated by mr. winslow. pai(role call).

>> so moved and that passes unanimously 7-0. if anyone is interested after a close battle, the giants are losing 6-1 and near in the eighth inning and it was a tight race for many innings. >> item 6 was pulled off of consent for case 2019-021795 on 650 frederick street. is staff prepared to present? >> yes. >> good evening, commissioner, i'm with the department staff and the item before you is request for conditional use, authorization to install a new verizon wireless telecommunication's facility at 650 fringed stree650 frederick .

it includes 15 antennas, 18 remote units on an exist stadium light pole, including ground mon continue equipmenmountain equip. this will operate in a 4g and 5g capacity and noted on may 28t may 28th, 2020, at&t received conditional use authorization from the planning commission for similar project at the north side of the stadium. according to the project sponsor team. these facilities of the two projects will be approximately 450 feet apart. the project sponsor held a pre-application meeting at the san francisco county fair building at 1199 ninth avenue on thursday, july 11th, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. and according to the application materials, ten community members attended this meeting and two attendees verbally opposed the project and several were interested in discussing the health impacts of

the proposed facility and how the technology operates and renewing projects specific details including stine, equipment and coverage.

>> project sponsor, are you prepared to present? >> i'm from verizon wireless. >> you have five minutes.

>> a request and verizon is seeking to improve the network footprint in and around golden gate park, fortunes o portions e valley. some general wireless statistics, this graphic illustrates the consumer's appetite for wireless services today, the main drivers behind the numbers are three-fold and the first one is cord cutting. and the date, demand and usage produced from web, email, text messaging, apps and then finally, the significant increase in the number of connected devices in our homes and the wearable and other mobile technology we carry with us on a daily basis. simply verizon is in the business of providing reliable,

seamless and wireless coverage for all of customers. our customers demap this demande they live, play, work and also en route to and from the various destinations. matthew, if you could put up the second slide, please. it's imperative verizon -- not only verizon but all wireless carcarriers provide this type of ubiquitous coverage. the slide illustrates why that is so important.

slide three, the slide illustrates verizon's current illustrates verizon's current >> verizon current coverage footprint. as identified in the slide you willll see several black pointis and they are also labeled with a site id. these are the sites on air and transmitting a signal. the colors depicts the type of signal.re green in building cover age yellow and vehicle coverage and red on street coverage. there are two primary objectives the installation hopes to achieve. first increase network capacity. currently we have two sites identified on the slide. the site at the north we refer

to as clayton. the south site is u.c.s.f. on the hospital. both of these sites currently experience heavy congestion as they primarily handle the bulk of the verizon wireless data traffic. the results of the congestion are exemplified by displacing calls, dropped calls and slow and sometimes nonexistence data through put. second objective seeks to bridge the existing gaps in coverage. to provide a seamless connection

in coverage between the facilities, verizon must install this facility. if you look at slide four and the gaps in coverage in the yellow and red are now filled in with green. that means it has coverage in the building. i would like to direct your attentioattention to slide 5. the general layout. 220 square foot area behind the bleachers on the south side of the stadium. the light standard just to the left of that on the east. slide 6 is elevation depicting

the antenna for 4g, 5g and various. >> y thank you, sir, for that presentation. we appreciate your time. we should go to public comment. >> members of the public this is your opportunity to call the 800 number and enter the queue. we have the most patient person whoe started this hearing with a concern pulling this matter off consent and stuck with s us. for that you will be afforded three minutes. >> the line hung up. >> no!n >> she has been with us for so

long. we will keep the line open for her in case she comes back. i am sorry, commissioners we did have one caller up until the last moment. let's afford her that opportunity while you continue to deliberate. thee matter is before you, commissioners. i p am supportive of the projec.

>> commissioner moore. >> as far as i can tell, the project follows the review and recommendations of the department provided. i am in support of the project. >> commissioner imperial. >> while we are waiting, if the caller will come back, maybe the planner can inform us as to the concerns during the pre-application meeting that the community put out for opposition. >> i want to clarify if you are seeking that information from

staff, we did review the information provided by the sponsor. perhaps they might be the proper contact to elaborate onon that. generally, all of the we haveion that received people were mostly concerned about potential adverse health related to radio frequency design and, ofha cour, the impacts to the public being it is within golden gate park. those were the main concerns. possibly the sponsor might have more information what they received att the actual outreach meeting. >> project sponsor report.

>> this is stacy bradley from rec and park. i will see if i can get our representative on. >> can you hear me? >> yes. >> jack christy with verizon wireless in regard to the pre-application meeting. the folks that held that meeting indicated there were several people and the complaints or the concerns were primarily health-based impacts.

i echo what matthew said. >> thank you. >> commissioners my operations team has no callers on the line, unfortunately. i personally feel for this woman who stayed with us the whole time until the last minute. >> in this case i sympathize again also with the woman that waited for a long time and did not get to hear. i would like to hear the other issues raised. i didn't see any other issues extraordinary unless the caller calls back and has something to bring out. i move the motion to approve.

>> second. >> seeing no further deliberation, there is a motion and seconded to approve this matter with conditions. >> [roll call] so moved commissioners that passes unanimously 7-0. i commend you on your patience and perseverance. i appreciate your staying with us with the technical difficulties in the hearing. >> thank you. >> we are done. >> good night.

>> clerk: -- the health commission to orde. >> the health commission to order. mark, will you take the roll? >> clerk: yes. [roll call] >> clerk: all right. so we've got three commissioners who are not on, but we've got quorum. >> okay. we'll move onto approving the minutes from the july 7, 2020. do we have any amendments and, if not, a motion to approve.

>> motion to approve. >> second. >> clerk: all right. and, commissioners, before we vote, araceli, can we check for public comment? >> operator: we have no one on public comment at this time. >> clerk: okay. we will do a roll call. [roll call] >> clerk: item 3 is the director's report. dr. colfax? great. >> dr. colfax: hello. good afternoon, commissioners. grant colfax, director of health. good to see you. i start the director's report with some very sad news. a long time member of the health department, sandy

martinez, di -- maria martinez died on sunday. she worked at the health department for 23 years. she focused on building many initiatives and key models for the homeless that not only became models for our care here in san francisco but models that were scared up nationally. she was a key member of d.p.h. leadership for many years and served many rolls. department director of community programs, senior staff to the director of health, chief integrity officer, and the director of whole person care. she continually strived to the

equality and racial lens. i worked with her early in my tenure at the department, and since i returned. she was a really unique person with her own sense of wonderful style, was inspiring to meet with and engage. ill miss her terribly, as will the department. the next item is with regard to an update on covid-19 and the pandemic. i will be giving a presentation on the data a little bit later in this meeting, but i do want to articulate that we are seeing a surge in infections, a significant surge that started approximately two weeks ago, and as a result, we have paused our reopening steps, and we're taking the -- our reopening of businesses in san francisco, and we're doing the following as we speak.

we're following the state's requirements. as many of you know, the state has become more conservative in its reopening, has put a number of counties on its watch list. we were put on the watch list as of friday because of our cases and hospitalizations. we were pretty conservative compared to other counties on the watch list in terms of what we had reopened, so it did result in some changes. we closed indoor malls yesterday, as well as nonessential offices. we're also focusing on behavior changes and preventions is really key to this pandemic. we're not going to test our way out of this pandemic. we really need to focus not only on scaling up testing where possible for the people who need it most, but focusing on the prevention activities that we know work and help flatten the curve.

facial coverings, social distancing, adherence to social distancing, good hygiene, and avoiding social gatherings and staying at home whenever possible. we continue, as we did -- as we have from day one, focusing on equity and the most impacted communities in the city, and we will continue to focus on reaching out and working directly with take holders and leadership in the latinx community, and residents of the eastern and southeastern neighborhoods of the city where the greatest number of cases are now being diagnosed. this includes expanding prevention and testing access to these communities. we'll also focus on testing.

you can see in the presentation coming up, we've far exceeded our testing goals, and at the same time, demand for testing has now exceeded our capacity to meet it at the city and health department levels. we did issue a health order -- dr. aragon is issuing a health order to ask private providers to also do their part at testing. this order will require providers to offer systematic and people in close contact diagnosed with covid-19, to offer them a test in an expedited manner. so i will give more details on the covid-19 pandemic during the presentation, but a little previous in the director's report. so i also just wanted to go through, at the end of your report here as an addendum,

there's some budgetary news that i felt needed to be shared with the commission as quickly as possible. you'll recall that we presented our budget proposal to you recently. however, in terms of the budget outlook, one of the strategies in terms of meeting the city's overall budget goals has been to add the city's labor partners to defer upcoming base wage increases for city employees. delays these increases would decrease the funding. and on july 13, the mayor instructed departments to provide additional directions for reducing the deficit. for the health department, these new targets are an

additional $15.1 million for fiscal year 20-21 and $62.5 million for fiscal year 21-22. proposals for reductions are due on july 27, and the health department is continuing to work with the mayor's office, controller's office, and other city partners to meet this goal, as well as to meet our budget plan for covid-19 and in response to mental health sf. so these will be included in the mayor's office directive for the budget. so we will continue to inform on the status of these initiatives as soon as possible, and that concludes my director's report. and with regard to that last part, chief medical officer greg wagner is also available to answer questions. thank you, commissioners. >> okay. commissioners, before we get to

you, i'd like to go to public comment. i know we have callers, but i don't know if they want to offer public comment. >> operator: we do have publ listeners, but they don't have their hands raised for public comment. >> okay. commissioner chow? >> in terms of this $15 million and later, $62 million, will you need to -- [inaudible] >> -- i assume that you're going to submit those, and i guess our next meeting is

something like august 4, so i just want to sort of figure out the timeline, which is certainly something that's -- [inaudible] >> yes, and thank you, commissioner, and i will have greg wagner, our c.f.o., answer your question. i will say -- maybe i'll speak for greg initially, that greg said to me, this is the most challenging budget situation he's seen ever, and greg has been with the department for a while, and the city for even longer, through some big challenges, but i'll let him respond in detail to your question. >> hi, commissioners. greg wagner, chief financial officer. so thanks for the question, and yeah, grant got it right. there's a lot of moving parts to this budget, and so we're

kind of looking at it as we go. obviously, because of the timing of this one, we're on a very short timeline to respond. and i think part of the context of this direction is they're trying to close a large deficit, and it's affecting department reductions but also tools that they use to close the biggest part of the deficit. >> mr. wagner? greg? greg? greg? i'm sorry. i'm sorry to interrupt you. there's feedback. there's a weird sound. i'm trying to -- 'cause we can't hear you. araceli, is there something on the public comment line that the loop needs to change, because i'm concerned about

feedback. >> there's nothing -- there's nothing from this end that would be causing that. do you have maybe an open mic that may not need to stay open, because i only have the bridge line open, and there's nothing feeding into it. >> commissioners, could you raise your hand if you're having issues on your end. all right. so greg, can you hold for one second? i'm going to just try to --

>> okay. i'm going to try again, and i'm sorry, everybody, if we can't fix it, but go ahead, greg, if you can. oh, now we can't hear you at all. did you mute yourself, by any chance? >> yes, i did. >> okay. >> is that better? >> yes. >> okay. i was going to attempt to call in via phone. so i was starting to say that, you know, i think part of the context here is that the mayor's office, there's obviously a big budget deficit and a lot of moving parts, and each year, the mayor's office addresses the deficit through a combination of the reduction targets it gives to departments and other solutions that are citywide in nature, and those may include things like changes to the capital expenditure budget, revenue initiatives,

working with labor, and in this case, all of those pieces. and because of all of these moving parts and the fact that there has not been progress on working with labor on the issue of delaying increases in wages for city employees, i think there's still a commitment to working on that and other solutions, but what the mayor's office needs is to have some options on the table so that they have choices available to them to make as they go to close the budget. so i think what's going to happen is because of the very short timeline, because dr. colfax said, these targets will be due on monday, so they're occurring in an even shorter turnaround than the last phase

of the budget cycle. we'll put together some high-level options, and probably not at the level of detail that you all are used to seeing in your normal budget packets that we submit to you as part of our commission budget process. that will occur, as you said, dr. chow, in between meetings of the commission. and then, we'll come back and report to you as soon as we can on what that looks like. and then, i would also anticipate that should the mayor's office need to use that additional said of proposed reductions to balance, there would be a further period of refinement where we would have to determine at a more detailed level what those proposals would look like and what the impacts would be, and at that point, we would bring those to

the commission at the level of detail that you're used to. so it'll be, i think, an iterative process where we won't have time for our usual level of detail, but we wanted to make sure that you're aware that this is happening, that this activity is going to be occurring in between commission meetings, and then we'll bring to you as much detail as we can at the earliest time possible. >> i definitely appreciate the process that you have outlined, and, if necessary, there would be more detailed conversation, so thank you. >> thank you.

>> commissioners, any other questions? greg, i did have one question. in terms of this and next fiscal year, we've gotten dollar reductions. what does that number represent in terms of the department's budget? >> you know, i have not done the math, but off the top of my head, it is probably in the neighborhood of 10%, but we just got the dollar value and did not ask. >> thank you, greg. commissioners, other questions? >> so commissioners, would you like to move forward to the next item? >> yes, general public comment. >> actually, item 4 is the covid-19 update, and it's dr. colfax again, and he'll be

joined by dr. bennett after he presents. dr. colfax, please give me ten seconds to get your presentation up. >> dr. colfax: thank you, commissioners. while mark is getting the presentation up, i'm going to give an over y'all update in terms of what we're seeing, and then dr. bennett will present in terms of how we're running -- [inaudible] >> your sound is going out, dr. colfax. your sound is maybe going in and out. i'm not sure what's happening with you and greg on your end. >> nothing has changed since i last spoke. now it's -- [inaudible] >> i can't hear you at all now. >> you know -- now, i'm

speaking. >> okay. it sounds clear, now. right now. is your door open, sir? >> no, sir. >> well, i tried. go ahead, and i'll let you know if you go in and out, but right now, you sound clear. >> okay. so i will go through with the covid-19 update. next slide, please. so as you can see, we're now over 5,000 cases of covid-19 in san francisco diagnosed. we've had a steady increase, and you can see the numbers here. we've increased our time, from going to 3,000 to 4,000 and 4,000 to 5,000 quite quickly. we've had a total of 15 deaths. sad -- 50 deaths.

sad to see people dying, but it's not what other jurisdictions are seeing. next slide. this is with regards to testing and case demographics. lots on this slide, but just to reiterate, we've done nearly 250,000 tests in san francisco. our overall positivity rate is 3%. the jagged line is the productivity rate, which varies, to some degree. the lighter gray bars are a little bit unstable because lab reports -- labs do not always

report the immediately report their results to us, but you can see that overall, our positivity rate has remained unstable over a period of time, but 3% overall. so day-to-day, it's really important to look at the trend in this graph overtime. in terms of cases, race, ethnicity, continue to see the epidemic among the latinx community, representing nearly half of all cases, so very concerning there, and we are reinforcing our work in the latinx community and latinx neighborhoods, working with the latino task force as well as

other neighborhoods within the city to ensure that people are getting testing as soon as possible, particularly those that are symptomatic, that we are providing support services and contact tracing. next slide. i think it's important, given the pandemic and the situation that we're here in locally, certainly during this -- in the surge, there's lots of concerns and lots of competing needs, and i will just say that our testing capacity is increased in terms of demand. i also think it's important to look at how san francisco is doing compared to other jurisdictions. we're working with similar limitations. you can see here in terms of our case rate, with the exception of seattle, our case rate is significantly lower than other urban jurisdictions. our death rate is certainly

significantly lower, and while our testing across d.p.h. and other city support systems is not able to fully keep up with demand as much as we would like right now, we are at a higher rate of testing per 1,000 than other jurisdictions. i would also say we've far exceeded our goal of 1800 tests a day in the city and are now doing over 3,000 tests a day across all our city systems. and in general, the city and the health department has sponsored -- has supported most of this testing. over 60% of the tests in san francisco are being done through d.p.h. and other city-supported systems. next slide. so this slide is the slope of the epidemic, the curve, so to speak, based on hospitalization, and the

commission will recall that we used hospitalizations because it is the most reliable indicator of where the disease -- how the disease is affecting residents in the city. but remember, because of the course of the disease, we're two weeks behind in terms of the spread of the epidemic if we just look at hospitalizations because generally, the hospitalization rate is two weeks behind the spread of the virus overall because it takes a while for people to develop systems and then have to be hospitalized if they're hospitalized for covid-19. you can see going into late june, early july, we had really made dramatic accomplishments in not only flattening the curve, but some people said crushing the curve down to as few as 26 people in the hospital, and you can see that

we've seen a rapid increase in our cases. the dark blue bars are people in the intensive care unit, and the bright blue bars are people in acute care, and i fully expect us to pass the acute surge that we saw in april, and we have no indication that this rate will decrease any time soon. you can see that curve going from early july to where we are now. that's a pretty steep increase, and very serious in terms of our spread, what this is saying about the spread of covid-19 in the city, which is why we've had to pause any reopening. we've really brought a message to the people to shelter in place as much as possible and

to do the prevention activities, including facial masking and social distancing, that this is no time to let our guard up. next slide. so this is looking at our change -- this is one of our key indicators that, again, as you know, commissioners, you can follow on our website. they're updated on a regular basis. this is one of our key health indicators. the percent change in covid hospitalizations by week, and you can see, again, that we were doing quite well in terms of the disease, and so again -- sorry. i'm having some trouble with my pings bars, so i can't see quite to the bottom of the slide. but any way, you can see there was an increase.

it was either late june or early july. i can't see the bottom of the slide due to microsoft teams. the red trigger was a 20% increase, and we remain at high increase in our rate of hospitalization. this is our running average over time, and you can see right now we're at 27.6%, still very much in the red zone, and a dramatic shift of where we were in late june-early july. next slide. so we've also seen changes in -- in our seven-day running average of covid positive cases, and we are -- our goal was to be below 1.8, and you can see here, we're seeing a dramatic increase. since june 14, we've had a very high rate of covid-19

infections detected per 11,000. that increase has been sharp, and shows no sign of abating. next slide. so in working with our colleagues at california state university berkeley, the team we've been working with since the beginning of the pandemic, this is their estimates of the reproductive number. a reproductive number is how quickly or slowly a pathogen runs through a community. a reproductive rate of one means that for every 100 people, more than 1 person infected.

a reproductive rate less than 1 means that every 100 persons, less than one is infected. we did that as a city very effectively early on. you can see in april and into late may, early june, our reproductive number was low, and in some of these numbers, we got it to around .8, and you can see it was consistent with covid-19 cases and hospitalizations. we crossed 1 in the first week of june and are now at approximately 1.32. the number 1.32 that i'm demonstrated is represented by the solid blue line in this graph. the shadings around that solid blue line represent the statistical estimates of

probability with regard to what the reproductive number actually is. remember, these are models. we can't actually measure the reproductive rate directly, so this takes lots of data and lots of modelling to get this estimate, so the average probability -- most likely reproductive probabilities is 1.32, but again, up to .5% in either direction, as demonstrated by the shadings. so 1.32 doesn't sound like much, but dramatic implications for our health care system and populations. if there's no change in the reproduction rate of the virus,

our models indicate we would have a peak hospitalization rate of 990 in mid-october, with a total of 820 deaths added, which includes the 53 that have already been reported, and you can also see that there are plauzible scenarios where we get into peak hospitalizations of -- of over 3,000, and 1900 deaths in 2020. so very concerning data here. a surge of the level of what we saw in april. next slide. but we can make a difference, and if we take -- if we are successful in reducing the reproductive number by 30%, we

would have a dramatic reduction in both hospitalizations and deaths, as demonstrated on this slide. so really, the power is in our hands, and it is possible that we could see change and bend the curve again, but we would have to all do our part and support our communities especially vulnerable to the virus as well as the communities that need the information and support to take action to, again, flatten the curve. next slide. so our health orders continue to be revised and issued consistent with the evidence and the situations that we're

seeing with regard to the data. you can see here we did allow a few things to reopen since early july, outdoor activities and boating. the data does show that outdoor activities are safer than indoor activities, but we paused on the original plan that we had for july 13 in reopening some key businesses. as i mentioned in my update, we were added to the state watch list as of friday, and this requires some additional shifts, and we will continue to follow and determine what next steps need to be taken, consistent with where the data are guiding our actions. next slide. i do want to say in addition to, really, a lot of work that's being done at the covid command center in terms of preparing for a greater surge

in the increase of the number of hospitalizations, there is some hope on the horizon. many of you are aware that a number of vaccines are being developed and tested. i'm proud to say that the health department is currently scheduled to be one of the places where vaccine trials will be run, both at the bridge research at 25 vanness, under the direction of dr. susan buckbinder, taking all the research that's been done with regard to hiv trials and applying those to covid-19 trials. zuckerberg san francisco general is also anticipated to be another site. and i think just as we have worked with ensuring that prevention messages and support and care are provided to communities most vulnerable, to both the -- getting infected with the virus and poor outcomes to the virus, so we

will be ensuring that we will be working with communities to ensure that they get the education, the support, and access to participating in these very important vaccine trials going forward, and happy to return to the commission with more details about this work in the near future. that's my update, and i can take questions now, or we could turn it over to dr. bennett, and she can give you an overview of the covid command. >> this is commissioner giradeau. i have a -- giraudo.

a number of families that i have worked with have told me that their private schools have told them in communication this week that their schools would be opened. >> so at this point, schools need to remain closed, given that we are on the watch list, we did issue health guidelines for school to potentially reopen if and when the health officer makes the determination that it is potentially safer to reopen schools. at this time, schools cannot reopen, and there are ongoing conversations with the state about what may be plausible

situations where that may happen. >> thank you. that was the information i received, so thank you for clarifying. >> thank you. >> commissioner chow? >> yes, thank you. in follow up, all that we're talking about schools, what about colleges or universities? not quite sure they're coming under all of these edicts or are they under another type of rubrick? >> yeah, they're under another type of rubrick, but we can certainly get the information to you with regards to the dynamics of exempt education institutions. as you know, there's a number of institutions that are taking different approaches to this, but we will check in and ensure

that we get that answer back to you. >> thank you. >> commissioner chung? >> thank you, dr. colfax, for the informative presentation. this is not a question, but more of a comment and thank you to all of the staff at d.p.h. who are doing their best. it's unusual circumstances. with all the things that are happening -- this is my question -- like, of all the things that we are doing to support staff, that their emotional well-being get prioritized? >> yes, thank you for that. i think dr. bennett can talk a little bit about what that support is like at the covid command. i'll tell you, first of all, in terms of what you're doing in

terms of expressing appreciation is great news. we are in our sixth month of this, so there is a lot of need for people to take breaks, to take care of themselves, and we've been focusing on that. this is a mayrathon, and you can't run a marathon without taking care of yourself. we've been making sure they get the employee support if they need it in terms of behavioral health and those needs. i do appreciate it. the other component that i think is important to acknowledge is all the staff that's trying to get things together during this trying

time. you heard about greg wagner and the budget challenges. and then, there are many people in mental health that are seeing unprecedented demands and needs. so while we focus our work around covid-19, the rest of the work of the department needs to continue, and that's conducted under very challenging fiscal challenges as well as sort of delivery circumstances. and many of our community providers are in the same situation, so i appreciate it, and we're doing everything we can to support employees as much as possible, even as we see the surge and focus on trying to do everything we can to support the community, but to support the community, we also need to support each

other. >> so director colfax, question for you. mark, can we back up to the slides on the reproduction number. >> one second. >> oh -- >> no, it's okay. give me just one second to back up to that. >> those are very concerning numbers. we see if we reduce the reproductive number by a third, we hold steady at the same number of hospitalizations, but we'd still see as many as four times of deaths here in san francisco. but if we continue on this same scale, we could see deaths up to 800, and number of hospitalizations, 1,000 to over 3,000. that could clearly overwhelm our hospital systems. i know we've seen footage of

people gathering in dolores park this weekend, and the possible impact that could have. could you just speak to what kind of effect that behavior could have, not just on our people, but our ability to serve the health care needs. >> yes -- [inaudible] >> i thi . >> dr. colfax: i think it's really important that we stay vigilant and do what we know works to stop the spread of the virus. that includes not going to large gatherings, and on beautiful days, when we all want to get out of the house and do things. you can get out of the house and do things, but you need to

do it safely. quite frankly, we all need to be thinking about a situation that could get dire very, very quickly. and, you know, if this curve is actually realized, will have signatu significant effects on the rest of our health care system. this is estimated covid-19 possible hospitalizations and deaths. so certainly, we will see, and it's been reported in new york, excess mortality, morbidity in other conditions, and i think the severity of these situations cannot be understated. we can still present the worse scenarios here, but again, if we all do our part -- how many

times can you save a life as easily by wearing a mask, right? wearing a face covering. keep 6 feet away. even if you get tested, don't get a test to decide if you're going to go to a barbecue or birthday party or to that friend's house that you want to see close up. leave that test for someone who really needs it, whether they're going to work in a high-risk situation. we need to wait for everyone to have access to a vaccine before we go back to normal, and our new normal does need to mean keeping our distance, wearing the facial coverings, and the good hygiene that we talked to you about. >> i believe the mayor has been eloquent and outspoken about this, and i know that i and

everyone join you and the mayor in your efforts to protect our community, so thank you. commissioners, other questions? all right. >> so we'll go onto -- [inaudible] >> dr. bennett, can you pop up your camera so we can see you? great. i will populate you, and you can introduce yourself as he get your presentation. >> hi, everybody. >> everybody knows that she is our agency lead at the emergency command center for covid, so thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. i think it's very important that we stay connected with

what the department is doing as a whole. this is part of the department's work, so i really appreciate the opportunity to share with you all. mark, do i have control or do you have control? >> i have control, and i have your initial slide up. hope you can see it, and -- >> yes, i did. >> okay. >> i want to frame what we're going to go over, and that is a sense of what's happening very briefly with covid. dr. colfax just did that. then, what the unified structure is, and i'm going to be focusing on where d.p.h. is in that structure, and fi fina, what we're intending or trying

to do. was that to me? i couldn't hear. it's going in and out. i did not hear what that was, and there's a little bit of a background noise. >> someone might have their -- someone might be listening -- watching and listening on the phone, and there might be two sounds, so if you're listening on the phone, please mute your phone so we're not hearing background in your phone. commissioner giraudo have had accessing, and we've had several people from the public indicate that they're having trouble accessing. so if you're listening on the phone, please mute your phone, and thank you, dr. bennett.

you can continue, dr. bennett. can you see the slides on the screen? >> i can. i'm ready. this slide, i'm going to skip past because you've already heard it. i just want to give the frame that we are, in fact, testing a lot, having a low death rate, having a much lower case rate than many, many of our compatriots in the rest of our country, and i want to be sure that that's the context with which this is going on because it's very complicated, and we've been running at full speed, trying to make sure that we acknowledge for the staff who are listening and for you the effort we put in has been very successful. go ahead, mark. so where we are, we've been working on making this philosophical shift and in our own minds within the covid command center. but many of us starts in that

early phase, somewhere between january and when we shutdown. as dr. colfax said, we can see the tidal wave. it just hasn't hit us yet. and then moving past that, we moved past very intensive rapid work as we shut an american city down. that was an intensive effort, and it involved a lot of work from a lot of people, making sure that citizens would be okay in their homes, that they would get their food, making sure that the services we would not be delivering to people would be kept up in some way. so we were in that emergency response phase. at the same time as we're leaving that, sort of, we thought we were leaving it, and now, the current -- the current increase puts that into question, but the city was ending the phased reopening of

thinking that we were going to be, for the next several months, slowly reopening the economy and dealing with the implications of what that mean, what that meant for businesses, what would be available, what services would be spun up and spun down. while that's happening, we're going to have to do a sustained response. that is why we restructured under a unified command. that is why we renamed it so that people could understand. in some ways, this is a construction -- a very rapid construction of a new interdisciplinary department, where lots and lots of people contribute, but we are -- we do have some independence of our own, about our own goals and the things that the command center is trying to do. so that sustained response is going to clearly go on for at least a year, probably longer, and before that, we'll be back with the needs of recovery, the

needs of the city as covid goes up and down. so we're entering a phase that covid is not so emergent and trying to enter a phase that is proactive, that is more thoughtful and sustained. thank you, mark. continue. so from the operations center to unified command. we had lots of operations centers for covid. there are operations centers in all of the departments. i think there was 21 at one point, but what that means is separate departments, and so to work together in such a sustained fashion, we needed to breakdown silos. so one of the things that we're trying to do is eliminated

duplicative areas, and last, improve areas of collaboration and resource use. we will never have enough resources to lavishly attack this problem. there aren't enough tests in the world, there aren't enough nurses in the world, and as our economy is slowly recover, it's going to strain our resources, so we want to ensure we're being judicious as well as being effective. go forward, mark. so this is a look at our current indicators that you've seen a bit of? i just want to indicate that we are in a phase right this moment where it is still at that emergent level? in fact, this is at an old slide, so for emergent

indicators, we are much worse. so we are slowly moving up on all of these, and we expect that we will be in the phase of having to rapidly increase testing, rapidly respond to outbreaks and increasing outbreaks for some time, and this is going to be in competition of a sustained system that we're preparing to do. go forward. so i'm going to skip some of these slides since you've seen them. go forward. go forward. so the unified command is a combination of three departments. so i am the representative from the department of public health. there's a representative from human services agency, and also a representative from the department of emergency management. so each of those departments has a significant investment of staff in this response, but they are not the only departments that are involved. so if you look across the

leadership, many of those leaders come from those departments, but this leadership would not be here without staff and some of the leadership staff from all over the department. so there's leadership from the police department, from the library, all city departments, who are part of this command. go forward. the way the command center is structured is a little bit different than the attached department operations center? so we have the policy group, which involves many department heads across the city and some staff from the mayor's office. we have the department heads who match those departments, and in addition to that, h.s.h., because we are dealing with many, many issues around people who are experiencing homelessness, and that boils down to the unified command that i just described? that command structure comes with its own staff, including

very prominently, an equity officer, which is an important position. the operation, which is where most of d.p.h. is going to be, and then planning and logistics. all of those things need to work together, and so we are under one command structure so that we can see that integration. continue forward. i apologize. sorry for the loud place i'm in. there's literally no private place in this building. unified command includes lots of leadership staff, and that means we're having commands from the outside world. the health services is led by jenna bolinski, who's from our dsfg quality staff. community is led by tracey