to decrease it by 10%. >> it should have gone up 3 million from the start because of our prop b allocation but because of the trigger being pulled, because of the size of the def stit deficit we startedf negative $3 million from the very start. this million five, i believe, is just the funding required based on the other increases that needed to cut and be plugged into our budget even though it shows an increase, all of our decreases met. we met our budget reduction target by cutting all of us, about $16 million worth of expenditures and because we're prop b dedicated baseline department, we have to cut actual low more than our cut

could have been close tore 10 million than the 15 to 16 that we had to provide for. >> ok. >> two more questions. one, as rec and park actually lease vehicles, passenger vehicles or s.u.v.s or anything like that? >> no, it does not. >> ok, i'm --

>> you all have great ribbon cuttings and i would love to celebrate them with each of you. >> all right. >> i donated to that playground,

norman, too. what is the cost reduction for the large concert such as a bed lands for next year? have you been in touch with them and are they -- do you intend tt revenue coming into rec and park next year? >> very much our hope. obviously subject to public-health guidances and i know i know the sector hit hard in this crisis is the arts and entertainment industry. it's our hope they'll be back. we would love to work with them on additional concerts and events if possible to kind of make up for some of the lost revenue and it's all still in flux until we get guidance that we can go back to a normal life

again. >> ok. got it. and any other questions for general manager, fill ginsburg. seeing none, thank you, phil and thank your staff for maintaining our open space and all our recreation centers, especially during this timing. i know that you guys have really entered the call for help during covid-19 and i just want to thank you and say hi to your lovely wife. here we go. thank you very much, guys. you take care. next is the last board of supervisors. angela, are you here? >> ok. what do you have for us? >> thank you, members of the committee, senator fewer -- [laughter] >> i'm angela calvillo clerk of the board of supervisors. it's my honor to present to you the department proposed budget for the budget year 2021 and the out year of 21-22 for your consideration. i'm joined always by by our

department's administrative deputy, who collects and manages this information for the department. a great round of thank yous to the controller office and the mayors board's budget and legislative annalist office. we appreciate your hard work in particularly during covid-19 for the entire city budget so thank you. in february, the budget committee authorized the department submittal of the proposed budget. due to the covid-19 health emergency and at the request of the mayor, the department further downwardly and in great

partnership with the board offices, director neil ma kelly administrative services and the department of technology and the media services our own board i.t. team, it's our administrative operations and legislative services, our assessment appeals board and the youth commission. a miraculous effort came together to offer our city government to be able to be accessed remotely and this was an amazingly heavy lift done by a core group of individuals and many working around-the-clock for about throw or four months straight. and i remain in awe and express deep gratitude for their dedication. there are my heroes. so, when we had a viable remote system, we created a list of protocols that were essential for public accessibility and we are continuing to work on some of those issues and language

interpretation and we're working hard to provide easy access for the communities and different individuals and logistic cal and technical challenges continue torah intended to and i will say that the 58 counties, san francisco was the only country to pivot teamlesley to the following week and to consistenly being able to produce remote meetings complete with public access and since shelter in place was offered without previously having a system in place. so, we're really very proud of that. so additionally, the department opened up its legislative process and creating new protocols for all the departments to be able to submit their critical early on we

receive a phone calls and questions for information from residents not sure which agency to contact so we began hosting virtual office hours and to provide continuity of services for the public where they can call in and we would hold their hand to the department they would need to go to. to assist a employees and we're proud to host those office hours. and uptick in records requests. have also increased at this time. and the shelter in place health order has a especially under scored the needs for digital access for records and so over the last two years, we have been working to we have 2,000 boxes

of files, lem lay tiv files, les and he has already digitized about 1,293 boxes of our archives from 19 # 1917 and wen provide that motion from home and we do not have to go into the office to do that. before reviewing the details of the department's budget for the budget year and out year, i will just quickly state i'm proud to say that department number one the budget is lean and our forward planning allowed us to outfit the board members and department staff with what was necessary to continue their important business ex our important business in the sudden

work remote work environment and in response to the projected budget shortfall as a result of the covid-19, the department worked with the mayor's budget office to assist the city balance to balance the budget and revised our budget from the february submission and this pro voids summary of the revision submitted in june and we believe we achieved $900,000 in savings from these areas listed on this slide. and certainly we'll discuss them more in detail as you are asking me questions. the table on slide 5 is all the changes from the previous slides and shows the budget changes from fiscal year 2019-2020 to 2020-2021 and fiscal year 2021 to 2021 to 2022. small increase of $289,000 from

fiscal year 2019-20 and 2021 is attribute able to the annualized wage increases that took effect in the middle last year offset by removal of one-time funding received last year. and you will note that the department budget is unchanged from last year and will be from the budget year to the out year. and slide six, this is our budget allocation by division. and our fte count. it remain consistent and we have 87fte and we are not requesting any new fte this year. although we had chair fewer, you will recall the budget committee two positions up coming changes for the assessment appeals board. the next two slides provide

upcoming challenges for the department and it may or may not occur in some cases. for the assessment appeals board particularly the covid 19 has obviously effected the economy and the assessment appeals board expects the number of assessment appeals in the next few years. similar to the 2008 downturn, these aab experience backlog of 8,000 appeals and temporary staff were hired to work through reduce the backlog at that time and we will keep you informed and very much we may have and and the board of equalization property tax role 305 subsection 2, in 2015, the assessment appeal board rolled out our online filing system for residential and personal property appeals. there's a new board of

equalization property tax rule 3052 that requires that beginning in january of 2022, any county offering online filing, of an application should also provide a mechanism which authorizes agents to submit electronically and application on behalf of the taxpayer. and for this requirement, in time for the july 2020 filing period and the aab system we do have some funds, which we're currently scoping that system and of course we're working in conjunction with the assessor office and depending on what we find, we may have to return to you to request additional funding for that project. and then, there's the split role, bat ole measure for 2020. i believe the assessor also mentioned that this item. and the california schools and local communities funding act of 2020 which qualifies to be a might role by taxable commercial

and would be pre assessed beginning as early as the 2022 to 2023 lean date and would be required to be reassessed at least every three years. if this measure passes, the assessment appeals board will definitely see a significant increase in appeals and surely will node additional staffing to handle the increased workload. and then, finally, regarding the outreach advertising of the outreach advertising as you recall was actually tabled in committee and i understand that the office of contract administration is going out to competitively issue another rfp for that. you know, we can continue to do business the same way that jut allows us to place adds in those outreach newspapers very few times a month -- like three

times a year. it's tied to the revenue that the department spent in their official advertisement. well that has really decreased over the years some of the mapes don't publish weekly but we can talk about this during the actual hearing and it's during covid-19 outreach advertising it more than ever to do so so we are going to do what we can but not to the level that the ordinance requires us to publish and if we were, that would cost about 40 to 50,000 a year to do that kind of outreach advertising. i will leave it there and i have my leadership staff with me online. thank you for your time and your attention today and look forward to working with this committee and the budget annalists to

finalize our budget. thank you, madam chair. >> thank you. any comments, questions for angela? >> oh, supervisor ronen. >> yes, thank you. angela, i just do have noted that we were the only county to not miss a beat and never miss a meeting and it was extraordinary the work of your office. i just am proud of our clerk of the board and i'm proud of our board itself and as many bodies, like ours, have met much less during this crisis and we've canceled most of our vacations and our meetings and it makes me proud of how hard we work and how much we care about this job so i just wanted to thank all my colleagues and thank the clerk and her incredible staff for that. i also wanted to talk to you about overtime for our admin aids. i know that that is somewhat of

a controversial issue going on so can you -- if we wanted to just treat our admin aids for comp time purposes, the same that we treat our legislative aids, is that possible? >> that conversation i believe we've had with dhr twice now. the civil service rules require that that particular class that we've chosen for the administrative aids does have an offering of overtime and so if they're working overtime, they have to be paid the overtime and i just want to ask you, if i covered it with that statement or is there more to it than that? >> so, that is correct. 1364 special assistant class is

eligible for overtime pay. appointing officers and the employees can majorly agree to compensatory time in lieu of overtime but the cap is 120 hours, which is 80 hours worked that would be 120 hours comp time. it's limited to 80 hours and then after that, if they work more hours they will get overtime pay. i'm just concerned that i understand some or one admin aid was paid more than the ledge aid. last year and that's a really big equity concern of mine. and so, i just want to -- i'm just trying to understand how we make this fixed?

>> also, supervisor ronen, it's important to know that the proposed budget that we presented included, you know, the youth commission also, their employees, they are paid below poverty page wages, because it'o hard to keep, so they wanted a bump in salary too. right. and so, not only that, but i think the last one we asked for an increase because the person or executive director at officer there is not a civil service employees and that position, as you remember, with jason, was and they got rid of it and then he has been working, actually, as a contract and employee but he has also brought in $250,000 in grant money but we just felt that the most important thing that we could do was to make him

actually a civil service employee because then we could keep him, you know, going because he started all these studies and he has brought in more than his salary, actually, probably doubled his salary in grant money was that was cut also from the mayor ease budget what they did. they just give us a status quo budget so i think it's a discussion amongst the board. i actually do hear that one legislative aid, one admin aid made more? i thought it was two of them that made over what a legislative aid makes? >> i thought it was two as well, supervisor fewer. can you confirm that? >> yes, there are two legislative aids for three to four pay periods that made more than legislative aids in their

office. >> when we're balancing it, we have one budget. it's not only ours. the bla has put in for cost of living and it's legitimate to ask for a cost of living allowance but that was denied also so i think that i just want to say that we had it all of this into our budget and the mayor and her -- >> i know, i know. i'm just wondering how we wanted to deal with that. >> we can have a discussion about that as a board and where our priorities are. i just think that when we see our youth commissioners also the directors there i think you remember supervisor mandelman

and they said they're making, you know, below poverty wages and that they should be bumped up and we talked about stipends for the youth and we thought youth commissioners to encourage youth commissioners to from come public schools and from some low income families that they would have stevens t stipends so therr things also on the proposal that we can reinstate them so where chose to reinstate them but we just have to know it takes something else. i want to note that madam clerk has also allocated a capital fund to build the office that her staff wanted and the pa tish an of the room and she's put that on hold in order to balance our budget. so, anyway, we were the -- i got a phone call from the chief-of-staff who said to me, so we're doing the budget and

you didn't do a cut like everybody else did so then they chose what to cut quite frankly. i didn't which we really could stay in it but i knew as a board, we could discuss this and together at this committee also. >> madam chair, i cannot resist this opportunity to tell you what you already know which is our budget has over the 12 years that i've been the clerk, and certainly before that has never grown proportionately to what the economy could afford. i don't believe that this department could make cuts every year we always tried to look under every stone and to provide the budget committee and the need of the city what whatever

tiny bit of dollars we could. without staff. >> and i also just say they have not had an increase in 10 years and the budget. in 10 years they have not had an increase and they're also holding the work of our clean power and they are doing the largest labor study ever and they have -- and also, they are working on equity around puc and services and now they have they're holding the work of the public bank. they have not had an increase in that budget for 10 years and so that is another consideration. i just want you to know that this is not the budget we proposed, this is the budget the mayor's office gave us. who is next. supervisor walton. >> are you done? >> supervisor ronen, would you like to continue? >> it's just, i'm very concerned

about the fact the overtime wasn't funded by the mayor. i'm not sure how to deal with that. i also understand that the one critique i've heard is it's not fair for the admin aid with overtime to learn more than the legislative aid, it's something we need to deal with and take care of because it worries me and i don't feel comfortable that the classification for the worker requires overtime and the mayor didn't fund that and so we're left in a legal limbo that is very confusing to me and i'd love to continue to discuss that over this budget process of our department. >> ok. first, supervisor walton, president yee and then supervisor mandelman. >> thank you, chair fewer.

first i do want to just echo the sentiments of my colleagues in terms of thank you for being prepared to continue with us during this pandemic. i have one question than more of a statement. because it is very, very dis concerning to me, that we would ask staff to give up overtime when the police department youth

commission outreach and development budget request was about $37,000 total but we reduced that by $10,000 because those expense budgets were intended for in-person meetings and events because we don't expect them to meet in-person for at least this budget year and so refreshments, rental facilities fees, things like that, travel budget, we removed those. we kept things like online and social media advertising and to increase their presence and to

promote their programs and we also kept printing costs because they wanted to print a budget report and brochure and promote the program so we kept some of the requests in and. >> i also wanted to -- oh, excuse me, colleagues. can i briefly clarify mckenna's question about overtime for salary and employees. yes, mr. controller, yes. >> hell oh again, supervisors. i thought i would briefly talk about just mechanics with some of the questions that you are raising here, which are obviously pertain able at the board and city wide at this moment. so there's two questions related to overtime payments for

salaried employees who typically wouldn't earn overtime but are eligible to receive comp time. up to a negotiated comp time cap. there's a question of money. is money in the budget to pay for overtime and there's the request under our civil service rules authority to pay overtime to employees that typically won be eligible to receive it. the money question would be resolved through the city's annual budget and the authority question with the civil service rules and it's assigned to the department of human resources acting through the mayor and discussion with labor and to when the city would permit salary employees to earn overtime. so there's kind of a question that is directly under the authority of the board with the budget in front of and you there's a question that is with the civil service commission with the civil service rules related to this and it's a city wide issue at the moment and you have a number of salary

employees throughout the city working well more hours than would be typical and including, as you can imagine, hundreds of staff in the department's emergency operation center and the department of public-health and elsewhere and otherwise salaried and they have bumped no their time caps and this issue of payment of overtime has come up. thus far, the city response to that has not been to pay overtime in those circumstances and as you may recall the city through the emergency orders that you have approved so it can be accrued up to a greater level and the city has also responded by allowing additional accrual evacation and other things. there's more and i'm happy to follow-up with the department of human resources as this conversation progresses but i thought it would be helpful context. >> thank you, mr. rosenfield.

i appreciate it. next in the queue, supervisor mandelman. >> thank you, chair fewer. and i appreciate that it's annoying to have the mayor take a whack at our budget. of course we can return the favor going forward. i do think it would -- we're just starting this process. wore going to have a lot of departments in front of us and work some folks were amused and they have not grown during the good times and i just think we need to be careful about kind of making sure that we're treating others the way we want to be treated ourselves and and i think with regards to this question of overtime, particularly we need to have more conversations as a board about it. i've been incredibly gratified to have this fourth position in

the office over the last year and i didn't really imagine that i should use a ton of -- that, you know, i think we had different expectations and understandings how we could use this fourth person and whether we could expect to get 80 hours it's for budgetary reasons and fairness on the board worth while to have that conversation and figure out how much -- what we gave ourselves last year and what we want to continue to give ourselves going forward. i think as we talk about overtime, we gave all of those departments that used a lot of overtime a thorough going over last year and i imagine we will again this year. we will make them justified their overtime and we will

probably cut some of their overtime and. >> i'm going to echo exercise et supervisor mandelman just said. when we talk about the fourth position, the eight business and i thought right from the beginning that it's just not going to work well and in a sense, we all want to hire the best people and the smartest people that can be the next

ledge staff and most of us did that and we realized they can do this work and that's one thing. i thought from the beginning that if you really want aid fourth person, just higher at thhire at thesame level. it is what it is and i told my staff, i think it's fair to say that when i talk to my staff, i said don't accumulate a lot of this and a lot of that because i'm going to burn you out. i just make it clear to people there are days when you node to do similar time or whatever. don't do it on the regular basis. it's not healthy for and you it's not good for the budget and so fourth. i mean, that's how i feel. we have managed people that say and i ran an organization over

100 people and i tell them the same thing, we'll try to raise your salaries but it shouldn't be used as a mechanism and police department and sheriff's department and we're here to get the salaries up to 350,000 you know. using overtime so, that is how i feel about it and i mean, i think we should have a budget for overtime. this shouldn't be expectation that people should take unlimited overtime and it's just not a good way to manage people. i'll leave it at that. >> i wanted to say that madam clerk, also mentioned about our advertising fund. and you know, there's a lot of newspapers, small newspapers, for example, i think the sunset beacon but this also the bayview newspapers and the sunny reporter and those types of newspapers that we don't

regularly advertise in but we could if we up the budget and i'm just wondering that during this time, they're also having hardships and also, when we talk about getting it out in spanish newspapers and smaller newspapers that we might want to expand that budget so there's access to information to these communities and also that we're spreading some of the city money around to some smaller publications instead of these really large ones. they would like to also have this partake in this and that probably might mean an increase in the budget so, i just want te can discuss during our deliberations and i think that it gives us a lot to think about quite frankly, you know. so, madam clerk, is there anything else you would like to add for us. >> that concludes my presentation. i will work with your offices on

some of the questions that were brought up today and if you want me to come back to hearing next week, with some information, i'm happy to do that. >> thank you, madam clerk. so seeing no other questions, colleagues, my apologies that the mayor's office has asked me to rescind the vote on item number 11. we sent that to committee to the full board of the september 15th meeting, they would like it to be sent to the next board meeting. which would be next tuesday instead. so, i make a motion on behalf of the mayor's office, to rescind the vote on first item -- >> can we ask the mayor's office to rescind our cuts? >> [laughter] >> yeah, that's a good one. >> thank you, president yee. >> first i said no and then i said ok.

so, i think i'm making a motion to rescind the vote on item 11 and could i have a second, please. >> second. >> can you remind us what item 11 was, i'm sorry. >> roll call vote, please. >> i'm serious. item 11 was accept and extend votes a grant from the u.s. government. >> it's approving the cares act mental see solution. >> ok. >> i have a roll call vote, please. [ roll call vote ]

>> clerk: there are five ayes. >> thank you very much. i'd like to make a motion to move item 11 with a positive recommendation to the board meeting at the board of supervisors meeting which is next tuesday and i don't know what date that is. >> 18th. >> august 18th, correct. >> second. >> roll call vote, please. [ roll call vote ] >> you have five ayes. >> colleagues, we're at the end of our budget presentation for today. we will a full day tomorrow. and on friday we have even a busier day. so, i would like to open this up

for public comment now on items number 2 and 3. i will make a motion later to continue item number 1 to the call of the chair. so you don't mind, mr. clerk, can we please open up public comments now on items 2 and 3. >> absolutely, madam chair. operations, checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. operations, please let us know if there are callers that are ready. if you have not already done so press star 3 to be added to the cue for those on hold, please to wait until the system indicates if you have been unmuted. >> there are currently four callers in the queue, i will cue the first call.

>> welcome, caller. >> caller: -- >> hello, caller. >> caller: hello. hello, good evening, i'm calling regarding the general budget. yes. >> good evening. my name is lynn davidson i'm the program manager of the san francisco public library main children's center right now i'm a disaster service worker contact tracer. i wanted to first thank all of you so much for the warm words

of appreciation you gave our library team earlier that really touched my heart. i'm very proud of my colleagues and friends throughout the library system and our fellow city workers who have stepped into responsibilities no one prepared them for. they're working in food banks, contact tracers, bringing library services online and doing their regular jobs as custodians and security guards and now in a much more dangerous environment. many of my library colleagues and friends have put their own lives at risk and doing in-person disaster service work that brought them into daily contact with people positive for covid-19 for months. and every one of my colleagues i've talked to have said wore happy we can help, we're so proud of our service, and we are also hurting. we're people not items on a budget, many of us are struggling our own and our families financial health issues and worried this salaries and regular pay increases we row lion won't be there.

we want everyone's sacrifice to be fair. we have born a huge part of the burden of keeping san franciscans safe and well during this crisis. we're asking the wealthiest to join us by barring their part of that burden too. and we're asking the city to find the opportunity in this crisis to find ways to address longstanding funding inequities that don't takeaway life lines for its essential workers. i'm asking you please, don't balance this budget, not now on the backs of our city workers who are giving san francisco their heart and soul everyday. if we are truly essential do just tell us that. please show us. and thank you.

>> department and currently investments owns my apartment which as most of you probably know is not a good situation for me. housing rights committee came to me early on just as the virus crisis was hitting to let me know my rights. i've not been able to pay my rent for five months sips the crisis began. i started volunteering to help my fellow tenants in my building and other tenants to learn about their rights and how they can stay in their homes and not leave. what you found is that almost none of tenants know until we reach out what's going on. many have left their apartments and they didn't have to. many drew on savings to pay representative when they should

have saved the money and spent it on essentials and without housing rights committee and ccdc, we would be seeing more people who are in threat under eviction and more people who would be leaving their apartments when they shout because the way the landlords are tricking them to believe they have to leave. the funding for these groups is absolutely essential. they're keeping people from getting booted out of their apartments and leaving their apartments and becoming homeless. if anything, the funding needs to be increased and not cut. the last thing i'll say, i want folks to remember the last co would not have the clean power programs in san francisco and they're commercial t crucial toe get things done in san francisco when the ball gets dropped and we need the funding as well. thank you. >> thank you, mr. brooks for

your comments. >> next speaker, please. hello, caller. >> caller: hello, good evening, my name is david and i'm the program coordinator working out of doll or as street services and i'm here to comment on the public budget presentation by mocd and i want to start first by thanking the mayor, the board of supervisors, for renewing this commitment for justice and due process for all in san francisco and by funding our three collaborative and the rapid response network at the levels originally recommended in the rfp process.

we appreciate our long-term partnership with moucd and hope the city will make sure they have the resources to respond to all of the needs of our communities. and i also want to express concern about the impacts of $182,000 cut with the rapid response network that was incurred as part of the rfp process and ask that these funds be restored. in the last week we've seen a resurgence of activity in the bay area and immigrants continue to pay political attacks under this federal administration and this cut threatens our ability to maintain a 24/7 hour hotline and limit community research effort. it's essential the community members understand the rights and how to assert them and we need a strong community to hold them accountable and protect our members. this is possible by restoring these funds to our network. i also want to express our strong support for reinvestments in black communities in san francisco and for resources and services that support immigrants, working class people

and other marginalized communities who we know are impacted by the devastating impacts of covid-19 health emergency. we need a just economic recovery and this requires meaningful investments froinvestments in ta commitment to make cuts with the non-profit sector that is already working beyond its limits to respond to the crisis. thank you, very much. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> caller: hello. my name is kathy and i'm a librarian and program manager at the mix at sfpl. the main library team center in digital media that is exclusively and i'm currently serving as a disaster service workers in support of the san francisco marin food bank. i just want to thank you for all you do to support city workers

and city residents and i urge you to bam the budget without any layoffs or pay cuts and the city workers and many of whom are library staff or other city workers like myself have been serving ex the front lines as disaster service workers during this unprecedented time and san francisco where the response has been so incredible and humane and so i just want to say thank you so much for all you are doing and do all that you do to support livelihoods of all city workers, residents and our most vulnerable residents especially, thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening. my name is milli atkinson and

i'm the legal director for the san francisco immigrant collaborative. it's funded by the mayor's office of housing and community development as part of the justice portfolio. i am support the recommendations made by (inaudible) as it relates. we are collaboration of this non-profit organizations in san francisco that provide has you will culturally confident legal services on behalf of san francisco and immigration and the col rehabilitative for 1200 residents and (inaudible) different country and provided a clear and successful model for the rest the country on how to work towards the universal representation and the immigration court and legally accountal to unlawful arrests and violent actions in our community. (inaudible) health risks that immigrants face during the pandemic, the federal government (inaudible) continues to operate in our city. and response to the number organizations including to work

to protect our clients responding to calls response and successfully advocating for the release of san francisco residents inhumane and life threat eping conditions and immigration facilities. they're vital link between the community and the social services available to undocumented receipt residents. i would like to express my gratitude to the mayor and mayor housing community development for their support on our work and some of our cities and one of the residents and we urge the board of supervisors to approve a funding recommendation and ask the board prioritize the restoration of the $182,000 in cuts for the rapid response network so we can condition as a 24 hour emergency hotline. the the portfolio is a vital service for immigrants in san francisco and we appreciate the board of supervisors continuing support for our clients during

this unprecedented seems. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> caller: hello. my name is julie and i'm the director of community stairs at open door legal. we're the only legal service organization employment offices in district 10 and district 11 and two of the most historically dis enfranchised in the city. 95% of our clients are people of color, 50% african american and 80% of the clients we take on are less than $15,000 per year. the mayor's office of housing and communities development has funded our legal services work working with residents who truly need it. we are projected to handle 500 cases this year in district 10

and and it's only enough to handle 63 cases. the community is in need of aid and it's not a time to dis invest in free services and the people who need it most. similarly in district 11, our services honoring this budget cycle and this investments in community that should (inaudible). covid-19 has he is ka late the c violence in family law, consumer fraud, employment laws and elder abuse law. we ask you for the uncoming budget cycle and efforts to support the mayor's initiative to invest in he can tive services that are discrimination and racial disparities and communities of color, the continued support of open door legal is more critical. thank you so very much for your consideration.

>> thank you for your comments. intentionext speaker, please. >> caller: at the, my name is victoria. i'm the supervisorring attorney for the immigration project that ati legal outreach. we are a social -- for the api and the latino communities in the bay area. we serve the most marginalized and vulnerable segments of the community in immigration and hiking and trafficking, housing, domestic violence and elder abuse prevention. we are one of the founding members of sfildc and the san francisco immigrant legal defense collaborative through which we represent san francisco residents who are in deportation proceedings. many of them are unaccompanied minors and they fled violence and persecution in their home country and they live with

constant and security about their legal status and endured from the trump administration. they've been disproportionately impacted by the current pandemic. we thank the mayor and the board of supervisors for recommending to preserve our funding at level and for your commitment to immigrants' rights and human rights. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> caller: hola. we hear you. arturo, are you here? >> yes, i'm here. [ speaking spanish ] [voice of interpreter] i want to thank you for the rights.

[voice of interpreter] ok, so this is synopsis of what the person just said. um, hold on a second, please. my name is emma delgado. we are an organizer for the workers rights and i want to just communicate to you that we appreciate and thank you for your support. my colleagues and i would not be able to get legal help without your assistance and also the help that we need to receive work permits. your funding is also necessary for us to be able to -- can you still hear me? >> yes, we can.

>> the funding is also what makes it possible for us to be able to -- [please stand by]

>> that's also very helpful, but when the june 2020 budget submittals were posted, the february 2020 submittals disappeared. i posted a comment on that page

a while back, but it still hasn't been fixed. i don't know if the controller's office or the digital services team maintains that page, but i'd still like to see the february 2020 submittals, so i ask that someone bring them back and display both the february and june 2020 submittals there. and last, there was some discussion earlier about the mayor's office standing, their office of neighborhood services or mons. could you ask for a neighborhood plan -- i'm not saying they can, but for a plan as to how the mayor's office would address their responsibility under charter 300, paragraph three. great work. >> operato . >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> operator: that concludes the

queue. >> supervisor fewer: public comment is closed on items 1, 2, and 3. i'd like to continue items 1 through 3 to the call of the chair -- i'd like to make a motion to continue item 1 to the call of the chair, and then, i wanted to continue items 2 and 3 to the budget and appropriations meeting for tomorrow. may i do that in one motion. >> clerk: yes, that was very clear. >> supervisor fewer: okay. roll call vote, please. >> clerk: okay. on the motion to send item number 1 to continue to the call of the chair, and items 2 and 3 to continue for tomorrow's meeting of the budget and appropriations meeting for august 13 -- [roll call]

>> supervisor fewer: is there anymore business before us today, mr. clerk? >> clerk: that concludes our business. >> supervisor fewer: we are adjourned. that concludes the meeting. see you tomorrow. those 49 thed

into the code. it is a dna index. out of that dna index the 49 we had 18 matches. from those 31 did not match within the index. 59 did not result in foreign dna profile that is equal to the amount of tests that they did. if you go down. one of the requirements of this law is notifications and outcomes to the survivors. with the special victims unit they will contact every person that is a victim of sexual assault and tell them what the results of the tests were, if it

was submitted and tested. out of those we have 100. we made 100 moat fixes. 14 -- notifications. 14 did not want contact or action. 134 were tested there are 18. those are arrests or action taken on that. open cases there are 49.

some of these profiles not hit again submitted through cold cases at a later time. somebody might not have the dna profile in the index but later in the future they show up. the cold case unit keeps track of the ones that we don't get actual bids on. those are inactive but open and retested. they are resubmitted. a number of cases charged by the district attorney were five and number of cases discharged were four. is there anybody that has any questions regarding my report? >> i see no virtual hands. thank you very much.

i will ask you to call the next line item. >> i believe the next line item is the presentation of the lep annual report by the department. >> yes we will present on the annual limited english proficiency report. >> good evening, commissioners chief scott and members of the community. this evening i will present on the department's annual limited english proficiency report for 2019 as mandated by order 5.20. i would like to begin the presentation by showing the

department's video. we speak your language to demonstrate the multiple languages spoken by our members. if you could play that, please. [ inaudible ]

>> thank you. next slide, please. the department currently has 352 certified bilingual members certified in five languages,

spanish, cantonese, russian. there are 498 bilingual officers self-identified speaks a foreign language beyond the five core. there are 94 civilian members and 31 civilian members totaling 975 bilingual members in the police department with 30 members from american sign language, arabic, french, japanese. portuguese, samoan and vietnamese. >> under order 5.20 section 303 requires reporting data in four areas. one, the number of calls for service contact and

investigations where an incident report was required regarding limitted english. 3602 such incident in 2019. two, the the manner in which interpretation was provided to limited english proficiency individuals in 2019. there were 1177 in person interpretations services provided by certified and non certified members. there were 6150 language line application interpretation services provided to members of the community totaling 7327 interpretation service incidents provided by the department. three, the complaints received concerning language access provided by the department

includes accountable in 2019. the department reported four total complaints. three were not sustained. one deemed to be proper conduct. two deemed after investigation as insufficient evidence and one was dropped by complaint. there was one complaint brought forward including a perceived complaint in which view determined a man darrin interpreter was provided. there were three complaints reported in review of the department of police accountability report. review of that determined that the constituted one proper conduct, one was unfounded and one complaint withdrawn by the

complainant. four, department's resolution to language access complaint entails continued commitment to language access by providing training, resources available, policy changes and consultation with office of immigrant affairs for best practices as well as ensuring compliance. in 2019, next slide, please. in 2019, the department achieved a number of accomplishments. first was collaboration to create a process to identify and track calls for service requiring language access services or response from bilingual officer. the goal was to improve response for tracking the calls involving members of the community.

the department of emergency management issues a training bulletin which involved secondary code assigned to the computer dispatch calls designated as lep. the call is closed out by dem indicating the language interned as well as whether or not the officers provided the services. calls closed by dem with code. spanish was span 1. that was to better track our language assistance that was provided to the community. the department also issued a department bulletin outlining what the officer's responsibilities as well. is notes reviewed secondary codes designated in the calls for lep to prioritize and review

for expedited response as needed. officers at conclusion will provide confirmation to the department of emergency management of the language interpreted and the disposition of the call. now, an additional accomplishment was facilitation by the department of the language line inside-out, smartphone application. this was training provided to officers at five stations including the tactical unit. the reason this is important, this provides direct access on the officer's smartphone with access to over 400 languages for interpretation available to provide to the community. in addition. the department facilitated trains for 103 academy recruits and aid of the general 5.20

involving limited efficiency practice scenarios and report writing. it also administered four update courses for interpretation for law enforcement for certified bilingual and aids best practices on interpretation, different modes of interpretation and preserving the meaning of interpretation from the source to target language. in addition, the department coordinated with the department of human resources the testing and certification of 35 academy recruits at the academy. this helped to expand the pool of bilingual officers as they engage with the community and dhr committed to this process moving forward. language access provided interpretation services for district station and specialized units as needed in addition to

public events such as town hall meetings, summit and lbgq meeting. they also attended training hosted by the asian pacific island nonprofit association with the police bureau on best practices related to best training. that brought back to collabborate with the office of immigrant affairs to enhance training content for members. to date our 2020 accomplishments include completion of our department training at all 10 district stations. i have mention on the previous slide we completed five stations in training them on the mobile app.

this language line mobile app which was available to the officers. we have now trained at the station and deployed on all officers cell phones in the field. this provides greater access to language interpretation services within the community. we will continue to move forward in completion of training with all units within our investigation division. ensure all members have the language access tool to serve the limited english proficiency community. the department implemented an lep scenario in advance officer training as well to help provide members update on the best practices related to language access. now some of the 2020 goes we have moving forward the department continues to work on memorandum of understanding with the department of human resources enabling the department to proctor internal

language certification and re-certification process to help expedite certification of members. we collaborate on the expansion beyond certified five core languages based on data which is sourced from various resources from department of emergency management and self-audit to meet the language access needs. department also looks to explore higher standards of interpretation and certification with dhr based on research of internal needs. current city-wide certification for all departments is currently customer service level of proficiency. the goal of the department is to attain public safety level of proficiency specific to law enforcement. they are working to update our d.g.o. 5.20 training video to

include updates related to the mobile app language access app and to update best practices for members. the department will work with our language line vendor to help create district station and specialized unit codes to help track and identify lep needs to better serve the needs within the specific districts in our city. the department is committed to work with the department of police account ability to refine the notification of the language access complained to the departments language access lie liaison to remedy these through training. we appreciate the support to assist in des moines of this report and want -- in this

report and timely resolutions as needed. they will work with the language group to develop a mechanism to share recommendations with the department on a monthly basis for timely review and consideration. the department also is working to complete design and approval of a limited english proficiency pin for bilingual members and police service aid. the design is in process. upon completion will be forwarded to the safety committee for review and approval. i would like to thank the lep working group for this recommendation to help elevate importance of our bilingual members through this process. lastly. the department will work to consolidate the language in a number of our department

bulletins, updated 5.20 to help consolidate and mitigate any redundancies in our processes at this time. that concludes my presentation. i would like to reiterate the department will better serve the needs of the diverse communities moving forward. i am happy to take any questions now as needed. thank you. >> thank you. i don't see questions from commissioners. i think the next line item will go to the d.p.a. report and sarah hawkins will report on the d.p.a. language lep report next. can you cull the next line item. >> item 3.

d.p.a. director's report. annual access report. followed by report on d.p.a. activities announcements. brief description of activities and announcements. >> good evening. i am here today to talk about the lep report from the d.p.a. i want to acknowledge that i am lucky to be giving this presentation, but the work i am going to speak of was speer headed by our former director of policies and so many groups that were acknowledged and were part of the language access working group. they did a lot of work in this very critical area. will you please pull up the d.p.a. slides.

>> first slide about the 2019 cases. one discrepancy in our report versus department report there were three occasioncation three. when a case is opened it doesn't mean it is closed in the same year. three cases opened in 2018 were closed in 2019. that is the only difference in the numbers between the two reports. unfortunately, if those three cases were not captured. they weren't opened and closed in one calendar year. most cases aren't opened and closed in the same calendar year. you can see 11 cases opened or closed in 2019 involving four different languages.

four were spanish, four mandarin, two cantonese and one aurarabic. three cases had insufficient evidence to prove or disapprove allegations. two were proper conduct. two by complainants and one unfounded. you can add vance the slide. d.p.a.'s perspective on the top three accomplishments. first timely release of police reports for domestic violence be and sexual assault survivors that is important for the working group. sfpd is providing the incident reports for the survivors within five days of request. incident request forms are available in multiple languages on the sfpd website and police head quarters. second was a draft for the

officers. this addressed the critical roles they play as first responders to domestic violence and calls for service. this includes determination. language access for lep and deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals, interviewing children and obtaining emergency protective orders. third deaf and hard of hearing working groups several community organizations including the deaf advocates and the commissioner drafted the d.g.o. in 2019 which was recently adopted. sfpd has expanded to deaf and hard of hearing communities and full implementations. advance to the next slide.

i think that is it. thank you. those are the partners we spoke of. i won't read all of them. the department acknowledged many of these organizations. i hope that some representatives might speak to the commission tonight. this is an important area of policy work that d.p.a. has participated in, partnered with these organizations and the department. we are committed and look forward to continuing all of our joint work in this area. thank you. >> thank you very much. i am getting feedback. do you have a question?

>> thank you for that presentation. i understand you you are filling some big shoes for the moment. remember the manual we worked on. can you tell us where it is in and when we can see it implemented to ensure it is in the field officer's hand with this information? >> right now i can't tell you. it is something that i am aware of. i have in the notes what it is. i will report at next week's commission. >> that was my only question.

>> as far as domestic violence manual that is in the final stage. we had a meeting on that manual. the second one is scheduled for tomorrow, i think. once we do that. we hope to be finished to get that manual in front of the commission. [please stand by]

our prior productions by category and case. previously, we were counting the number of productions, which made the numbers a little bit confusing. for example, some very large cases would have multiple productions broken into parts. the first half would be paper records. the second half would be transcribed interviews. we're going to continue to do production on a rolling basis, but what will note is case one, part a, part b, part c. and that will clarify the actual numbers.

so it's a work in progress, but we've done a lot and we're just really excited to have the information publicly available and i'll talk now about our latest releases. so since the last commission meeting, we've released one injury file and one officer-involved shooting file which was over a thousand pages worth of documents. that brings our new total to -- 7 officer involved shootings, 19gbi cases. we have 13 cases pending production in the dishonesty category and d.p.a. has determined we have no records in the sexual assault category. i think that summarizes

everything. >> okay. sorry. any questions? >> it was on the language access, but i just wanted to thank everybody involved on that. and i really can't impress how important it is that committee continue to go forward and that was it. i just didn't get my hand raised in time. thanks. >> all right, thank you. >> thank you. we should have -- [inaudible] -- i just want to say thank you to d.p.a. for working with the -- i'm sorry, i'm going to be a pain, but do you mind muting while the commissioner -- i'm getting a lot of feedback and i'll mute as well. >> thanks. i want to give a huge shoutout

to d.p.a. for working diligently getting 1420 online. this is one of the things very important to me and i work to get the policies and procedures in place for the department and d.p.a. and the commission to get the documents released to the public, because i feel that transparency is so important. and it's so amazing to hear in this short period of time, d.p.a. has been able to get an online portal so the community can go to the website and see the reports. i'm hopeful the department will follow suit. i'm told that they are also working on this and will hopefully have their online portal up and running within the next few months as well as the commission office as well. so we can have these records accessible to the public immediately. so thank you, sara, thank you, d.p.a. for your hard work. >> thank you.

>> is that all from d.p.a.? great, thank you. can you call the next line item? >> continuing on line item 3, reports to the commission. commission report is limited to a brief description of activities and commission president -- activities, commissioner president's report announcement. limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future meeting. scheduling of items identified and the commission action. >> i see no virtual hands. oh. commissioner? >> i'll be very, very brief. i wanted to give a shoutout to d.p.a. and the interns.

i had an opportunity to have a discussion with the interns about the commission and our work that we're doing around reform. and i'm always just delighted to speak with young people about the work we're doing and listening to them around what it is they're doing. sara, you'll be happy two of them reached out to me via e-mail, as i always make sure they're networking and staying connected. that was fun. >> great. thank you. and the rest of the d.p.a. and the interns. i see no other hands. next line item. >> we're going into public comment on line item 3. at this time the public is welcome to make public comment on line item 3.

you can call. for those already online -- >> did we have public comment on line item? yes, i'm sorry. ignore me. continue. i wanted to make sure people could comment on the presentation and that's exactly what you're doing. >> if you like to make a comment on line item 3. so far, commissioner, we have three public comments. >> great. >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> good evening, commissioners. i want to make sure you speak in term. i wanted to comment on the black lives matter posters inside the of the police stations. is that the appropriate time to comment on that? >> yes, go ahead. >> this is angela jenkins, i

want to commend the chief, the commission and all of the people who are putting together memorial to black lives. the one thing i see missing is the context of the black lives matter movement. i think we all need to know our history that we have in our midst, in the bay area, garza, a person who coined the phrase in a love letter to black people. the hashtag went viral when patrice turned it into a hashtag. i don't know that we're looking at that. it was actually created in the wake of trayvon martin's killing. in november of 2013, the i adequatal of his -- acquittal of his assailant created the black lives matter movement. it was done in affirmative action, a love letter, equating

black people with being deserving of love. so if we do move forward, maybe this should be taught in the academy. the whole history. that those people are local. alisa garza is local and still working actively to preserve and humanize black lives. thank you. >> thank you so much, ms. jenkins. next caller. >> good evening. you have two minutes. good evening. this is beverly from the san francisco domestic violence consortium. we've been so honored to be part of the d.p.a., and the community language work group for many years. and we love hearing the accomplishments. this is so great everything. it's a huge step forward. but i really want to encourage

us to take the complaints seriously. because those who speech english may not go forward with their complaints, there are certainly many more out there. we want to take each one of the complaints very, very seriously and recognize they represent more. also language access continues to be a barrier for survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault. we need to do more together. we need to keep the work group going and we need to get serious about taking the next few steps. i'm also very excited about the -- not only did it elevate the status of bilingual officers, but it helped residents identify officers who can offer help. we stand ready to help. we need to do more. let's keep going. >> thank you very much. next caller. >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes.

>> it's been a few years since anyone talked about this, but the police commission need -- and the city in general, but it's the police commission -- this is where everyone talks, needs to stop the direct energy that the city is in possession of. there is documents that prove it. that the city is in possession of microwave protection weapons and they can aim them at people's homes. and it doesn't hurt. you don't notice it. but over time, it causes organ damage and other things. so the city needs to look into the direct energy weapon and stop it. further more, the black lives matter signs, they don't mean anything if they're told to put them up. like, you could make a law that said that white supremacist that normally have a nazi flag must

put up the black lives matter flag, even if they did it, you know they don't really mean it. it needs to be optional. if they choose to put it up, that actually means something. thank you. >> thank you. any other callers? >> one more call. >> okay. >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> thank you, good evening commissioners, john crew. i have a couple of items under item 3 i would suggest for calendaring of an item. first i want to compliment and thank commissioner brookter for taking the lead on the black lives matter posters and chief scott for the execution of this. i think we can't forget the p.o.a. opposed that and claimed it would be a wedge issue and to go forward in such a way says a lot for the department. but i wanted to point out that the examiner broke the news there is a proposed contract

with the p.o.a. that has been agreed to that the membership of the p.o.a. is going to vote on this weekend that will award them annual 3% pay raises. to my knowledge, this has not been discussed by the police commission and it was only a couple of months ago the chief association released a letter signed by chief scott and other chiefs of police from around the country that said in part in reaction to the george floyd killing that the balance of labor and management is often out of calibration, hamstring efforts to rid departments of problematic behavior as law enforcement executives we call for a review of those contracts and laws. i agree with chief scott and their colleagues. there has been no review of this contract. the police commission should put it on the calendar and before the board of supervisors approves this contract which apparently had no attempt to deal with reform issues, it

should be discussed by the police commission. you can make a recommendation whether or not this deal is a good one or bad one. they have a contract that runs until the end of june next year. there is no reason to rush into a sweetheart deal with them and get nothing return. i hope you support sb731. if you want to lead on reform, you have to take positions on important state legislation. thank you. >> thank you. next caller? >> commissioner, that is the end of public comment. >> okay. thank you. can you please call the next line item. >> line item 4, discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 5.17, bias-free policing, discussion and possible action. >> thank you. i'm going to ask you to put up on the screen, so the public can

see, the changes to 5.17. the public may recall this commission voted to pass 5.17, the bias-free policing on may 20th. it then went into be confirmed. we've all been pushing our lawyers, our representatives, to make the process a quick one. i'm very happy to see it back before us. i want to walk with the public through the changes that were made as a result. and we think they're pretty minimal and i think everyone will agree. so if you don't mind, scrolling down, sergeant. this is the first change as a result of switching the order of age and religion. continue. this is the second -- this is

the second change. there was a comment that there was no such thing as -- you know, it was difficult to explain what would be lawful bias, so it was an extraneous word and that's a minor point and one we agree with, because you know, we want to prohibit any bias. so, yeah, that was deleted. that word. and then the very last change is grounds the bias policing with this g.o. and the g.o. this defines it. these are very small changes and this commission's view and this is what we were willing to agree with. there was, you know, quite a bit we were not willing to agree with, but this is a result of the process and now it's back before the commission for adoption.

so with that, if no one has a question, i'm going to ask for a motion. >> second. >> okay. i think we need public comment? >> yes. members of the public who would like to make public comment on line item 4, the department general order 5.17, bias-free policing. please hit star 3 now to raise your hand. so far we have one comment. >> okay. >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> thank you, commissioners. john crew again. i agree these are non-substantive changes, but i think you cannot ignore how messed up this process has been.

there is no explanation why this went to meet and confer in the first place. this department is claiming to do collaborative reform, but it's not collaborative if you give the p.o.a. a chance to go behind closed doors. if they had concerns about these minor changes they could have and should have voiced them with members of the public if they wanted to collaborate. and they could have and should have in mid may publicly, during the hearing on this matter, said change these items. i appreciate the commission pushed back and it's only been three months, but this process is going to be repeated. after i had made issues about this and the bar association of san francisco thankfully, what in fact the p.o.a. was proposing. it was labelled by d.h.r. as a counterproposal as though the police commission had to ask the p.o.a. for permission to pass policies. that is completely wrong. i'm confused also that you went

into closed session under the public promise that you would only talk about legal advice. and now the next public discussion it turns out you've agreed to something. i don't mind about the substance, but i object to the commission going into closed session and talking about the substantive policy that is not within the scope of meet and confer. that is a violation of the brown act. i think for the future this needs to be clarified. if it requires a change in the contract, you need to make sure that d.h.r. addresses that as they apparently reached a tentative deal with the p.o.a. you're led around the nose by d.h.r. and undermining the public confidence in the collaborative process. if you talked about the issues tonight in closed session, that was a violation of the brown act. i'm not going to object, because i want this policy implemented. >> thank you very much. is there any further public comment?

>> yes. good evening, caller, you have two minutes. caller, are you there? we'll go to the next one. good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> good evening, again, this is angela jenkins. i hope at this point let me be correct -- if i'm wrong, that i can speak to the new policy bias-free policing. is this the correct point to talk to that? >> absolutely. >> i do want to say that i'm pleased to watch this particular policy come forward. it was a hard-fought and hard worked on d.g.o., department general orders. it also had in the past that i enjoyed the policy for bias,

policing other civilians and that is what happened in trayvon martin's case, where i referred to the black lives matter movement came from a proxy case. that of trayvon martin, a young man killed by a neighborhood watch person. so, please do approve this policy going forward. let it be the only one in the nation, hopefully, where law enforcement officers are aware of their own bias, but also prevent the bias from nonpolice officers or other civilians. thank you. >> thank you so much and thank you for your hard work and contribution to the working group on this. >> thank you. bye-bye. >> any other callers? >> last one. good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> hi. this is rebecca young from the racial justice committee. i was a member of the working group. >> hi, how are you?

>> i would like to urge the commission to adopt the revised d.g.o.5.17 on bias-free policing. this new d.g.o. is light years ahead of the prior 5.17, the policy is simply stated and easy to understand. the definitions are clear and comprehensive and include the new category of bias by proxy, which is essential to what we're seeing today. the requirement of respect and courtesy and the intersection with 5.03 is tremendous. and i also want to thank chief scott for his leadership on this d.g.o. and for commander yuen shepherding the process. so we urge the commission to adopt 5.17. >> again, thank you for your work and contribution to the working group. any other callers?

>> no ma'am. >> i think we have a motion and a second. so i'll ask you to call roll for the vote. >> to adopt 5.17 as revised. >> [vote called] you have five yeses. >> great, 5.17 has been adopteded. i know commissioner elias is happy about that as well as the chief. thank you to everyone who was involved in revising the d.g.o. next line item. >> line item 5, general public comment. at this time the public is now

welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes for items that do not appear on the agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or d.p.a. personnel. comments are opportunities to speak during the public comment period are done by calling the number on your screen, access code. press pound and pound again. and dial star 3 if you would like to raise your hand. alternatively, you may submit public comment by e-mailing the police commission, or you may use postal service by addressing to the public safety building, san francisco, california,

94158. if members of the public can hit star 3 to raise their hands if you wish to make public comment. [please stand by] [please stand by]

>> is there a motion? >> motion. >> second? >> second. >> public comment. >> you have two minutes. >> thank you. on the brown act concern. i believe as i look at the calendar you have three disciplinary matters in closed session where you may be taking action tonight. two months ago i pointed out if any of these cases involve s sb1421 conduct, namely shootings, bodsly injury, dishonesty and sexual assault that the exception under the brown act to keep that disposition information secret no longer applies because it is no longer confidential in state

law. i believe you are obligated to disclose results of those cases. that did not happen in september of 2019 in the jessica williams matter when you suspended a sergeant for 45 days for killing jessica williams. why the public had to wait all of that time period is beyond me. you have an obligation to do that. you should exercise the discretion as u.s. department of justice calls on you to do to maximize transparency on disciplinary results. i have not had any explanation. you have had all sorts of cases not disclosed. when the commission takes action. i would rather not have to file a complaint with the ethics commission with the sunshine task force. i hope you choose transparency.

you promised it through the cops' recommendations. thank you. >> thank you very much. any other callers? >> that is it. >> i think now. go ahead. >> i want to take something out of order. i will ask to agendize the contract that was on public contract. i had no idea that was happening. i know the commissioner mentioned it. i will ask to agendize this to afford the community an opportunity to know what is going on. as well as myself and other commissioners. >> i am eager to know what is going on. i am eager to look this up when we have a chance. yes, i will want to hear about this in the future commission

meeting. >> now back to this line item. roll call vote. >> line item 7 to vote to close item 8 in closed session. >> line item 6. >> i think we are voting online item 7. we have had public comment. now we are voting. [roll call] >> you have five yes, sirs.

>> that is impressive. >> we are now going into closed session. [closed session]

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