right? so san mateo and morin and we manage the grant for those counties. but i wanted to know like in the east bay is there a counterpart that is doing this work? i think that when we see different sections and people living with -- contracting and living with these infections we're seeing it fluid throughout the bay area and it's sor sort f regional. so it would be interesting for you and in your presentation to actually to show us by county, is this a regional thing that we should be working together with the regional partners? are they seeing the same trend? our population is also having great changes in demographics. so i'm wondering as we have shifted our de dem our demograpt is the outlook about who are the new infections, what are we doing, what are they doing, are we sharing ideas, what is

working. so let's plan for that for the next meeting. i think that actually it would be -- supervisor mandelman, would you mind to work with the gentlemen about the presentation for next week. >> supervisor mandelman: my only question if we're doing what we're doing on h.i.v. and how, you know, how we're moving towards the end and how we're getting to zero kind of conversations, i'm wondering if a week is enough. i also thinking, i would like to have that conversation but i don't think that our approval of this is depend only that. do we have to keep this here to have that discussion? >> chair fewer: are we able to schedule a hearing here at budget, a mini-hearing here at budget, after having cast this item out of committee, are we able to hold a hearing on these very questions about the subject matter or does it need to be actually attached to an agenda item that we approve?

>> so i think in the context of reviewing this item, this grant application, it's totally appropriate to ask questions about some of the information that was part of the grant application, including the demographic information that was there. i think that if the committee chooses to approve this item and would still like to learn more about this, it would be appropriate for someone to introduce a hearing request which the president then would assign to the appropriate committee. >> chair fewer: okay. so supervisor mandelman, considering that it is a very much more involved -- like, we have to wait for so many days, blah, blah, blah, gentlemen i'm wondering, i think that this is super interesting and you could showcase what you're doing and it's great for general public too. could you and back in a couple weeks -- >> the other thing is that i think that you guys are scheduled within a month to hear about the c.d.c. funding which

will make the conversation also more robust so we'll try to figure out how to -- >> chair fewer: okay. >> so we're happy to come back in two weeks. >> chair fewer: okay. madam clerk, when is our next meeting for the budget and finance committee? >> clerk: yes, madam chair. the meeting after next would be on november 18th. >> chair fewer: is november 18th too late? bill? >> yes. >> chair fewer: okay, good. this is really exciting. okay, let's open this up for public comment. >> sorry, buddy. >> no worries. >> chair fewer: madam clerk, please. >> clerk: madam chair, operations is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. if you have not already done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. for those already on hold wait until the system creates that you have been unmuted. let us know if there are callers who wish to comment on that item number 4.

>> madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. public comment on item number 4 is closed, i would like to move this to the meeting of november 18th. a roll call vote, please. >> clerk: on the motion [roll call] three ayes. >> chair fewer: thank you very much. >> clerk: nothing further.e bef? >> chair fewer: thank you. >> thank you. >> goodbye. >> thank you.

>> good morning, the meeting will come to order. welcome to the october 26, 2020, meeting of the rules committee. i am supervisor hillary ronen, the chair of the committee.

with me on video conference is the rules vice-chair, stefani and member jordan mar and our clerk today is victor young. and i would also like to thank sfgov-tv for staffing this meeting. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes. due to the covid-19 health emergency, and to protect the board members, city employees and the public, the board of supervisors administrative chamber and committee room are closed. the members will be participating in the meeting remotely. the committee members will attend the meeting through video conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. public comment will be available at each item on this agenda. and both on channel 26 and sfgov-tv.org, and they are streaming the numbers across the screen. comments are opportunities to speak during the public comment period and are available via phone by calling 1-(415)-655-0001. and, again, that is

1-(415)-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 1464986060. again, that is 1464986060. then press pound and pound again. when connected you will hear the meeting discussions but muted and in listening mode only. when your item of interest comes up dial star, 3, to be added to the speaker line. the best practices are to call from a quiet location and speak clearly and slowly and to turn down your television or radio. alternatively you may submit public comment to myself at the rules committee clerk at victor.young@sfgov-tv.org. and if you submit by email it's forwarded to the supervisors and will be included as part of the official file. that concludes my comments. >> chair ronen: thank you. can you please read item number

one. >> clerk: item one is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending march 1, 2021, one member, term ending march 1, 2022, and two members terms ending march 1, 2023. to the in-home supportive services public authority. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. and if alexander madrid is us today? alex madrid? >> yes, i am. >> chair ronen: good morning. thank you so much for being with us. i was wondering if you have any comments for us about your interest in participating in this body? >> no, i just want to say to the committee that i thank you for considering me as a member of

the board members. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. we really appreciate your willingness to serve. thank you. is there any other questions for mr. madrid? nope. okay, thank you so much. and next i want to see if sascha bittner is here? miss bittner here? i see s.b., which i'm wondering if that is her. >> clerk: she is logged in, however, we're just waiting for her to turn on her microphone. >> chair ronen: okay. we'll wait a sec. >> clerk: miss bittner, if you can hear us, we are calling on you at this time. >> chair ronen: and i do want to say that daisy mcarthur who is

an incumbent is unable to be here today. so we're not going to hear from her but she is an incumbent and has been a wonderful member of the board. and i'll just say that. and if miss bittner -- maybe she's having some technical difficulties. so don't we see if robin wilson-beattle is here. >> hi. i am robin wilson-beattle. i'm here. i don't see my name, but -- >> chair ronen: we hear you. >> okay. >> chair ronen: thank you for being here. do you have any statement or comments for us? >> i am just really excited. i have been on both sides of the

-- i have been a consumer of the services but i have also worked in disability advocacy, you know, about these services. and worked as a personal care attendant. so i get both sides of what's going on. [laughter] i'm excited. >> chair ronen: that's fantastic. thank you so much. and thank you for your willingness to apply and to serve in this really important capacity. we appreciate it very much. i want to make sure that none of my colleagues have any questions. thank you. that -- that is it for now. and i wanted to just see if miss bittner was able to join us? >> clerk: she is logged on with us but she is not responding at this point and it may be technical in nature. >> chair ronen: okay, okay, no worries. i'll just sta state for a momenn

miss bittner's behalf, i don't know if she remembers me, but i remember her. she's worked a lot with the domestic worker coalition and with hand-in-hand, which is an organization that -- of employers that helps to advocate on behalf of domestic workers, including in-homecare support services and has just been such a leader in that movement. so i'm very excited about her application to this body. but if she is unable to join us, we'll give her a chance after public comment. but why don't we open this item up for public comment while we are waiting. >> clerk: excuse me.

[clearing throat] yes, the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-(415)-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 1464986060. then press pound, and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. do we have any members of the public to speak today? >> madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> chair ronen: okay. thank you so much. i just wanted to give one last chance to miss bittner to speak if she has any comments.

>> hello. this is (indiscernible). i do want to speak... but i think that actually chair ronen covered it. however i feel -- in short i feel that i bring as someone that has worked with ihss and have worked with clients to the public authority governing board

and you have my recommendation and i hope to be considered for this. thank you so much. >> clerk: ronen, i believe that you are muted at this time. >> chair ronen: so sorry. thank you so much, miss bittner. and i just want to thank you for all your years of advocacy and work in this arena. and i'm a big fan. so thank you for applying to this seat. and with that do any of my colleagues have any comments? >> yeah, i do, thank you, chair ronen. i just wanted to thank all of the applicants for your commitments to serve our city and the ihss public authority.

and just for all that you do to ensure that seniors and people with disabilities are able to continue to live with dignity and thrive in our city. you know, we know that the incredibly vulnerable communities are facing just great challenges right now, so i think that the work of the ihss public authority is more important than ever. so, thank you so much. and i also just wanted to really thank sascha who i have known for many years and worked with on campaigns for supporting seniors, people with disabilities, and also the care workers, the people who provide the care. so i'm so excited, yeah, to hear from sascha. and i have known daisy mcarthur for years. and a leader in seniors and homecare worker issues. so what a great group of folks

stepping into this important role. thank you so much. >> chair ronen: thank you. supervisor stefani, do you have any comments? >> supervisor stefani: yes, thank you, chair ronen. i just want to echo what both you and supervisor mar said about miss bittner and knowing her work over the years. i want to also thank all of the candidates. this is such important work and it's always so good to see such good people willing to serve san francisco and to really give of yourselves to help others. so, thank you for being willing to serve and i'm very excited about being able to confirm these appointments and these applications. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. and i just wanted to add that during the time of covid that the work of being able to ensure that seniors and people with

disabilities are allowed to stay in their homes and live and thrive in their homes is so important. and that's the preferred way -- almost all of the time -- but we've seen during this crisis that it's also very important for health reasons. so the work of ihss is so important, now more than ever, and your willingness, all four of you, to serve in this capacity is so appreciated and so important because we need to make sure that this system and this institution continues to be strong and thrive and that all parts of it work well. so to do this, and to alex and daysing daisy and sascha and robin, we appreciate you and we appreciate your service. i would like to make an official

motion to forward the appointments alexander madrid to seat nine and sascha bittner to seat 11, and daisy mcarthur to seat 12, and robin wilson-beattle -- is it bettle? or? >> beattle. >> chair ronen: thank you. to seat 13. and to the full board with recommendation. can we take a roll call vote. >> clerk: yes. on that motion [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. thanks again, everyone, and congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: mr. clerk, please read item number 2.

>> clerk: yes, item 2 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending september 6, 2021, and two members, terms ending september 4, 023, to the assessment appeals board number one. we have three seats and three occupants. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. and is miss robinson here? >> i'm here. >> clerk: she's here. >> chair ronen: good morning. nice to hear you and wondering if you had any comments for this committee? >> yes, i have been on the board for a long time, probably the longest member there. and i have always gotten a great deal of satisfaction from lending my real estate skills to the city. and i have a background as a

commercial real estate appraiser, which makes the board a very good fit for me. and i enjoy working with the people at the assessments appeal board, it's been a very great experience. >> chair ronen: thank you for all of your years of service. we appreciate it and i just want to see if any of my colleagues have questions? i don't think so. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: and next we want to see if elizabeth zareh is here? >> good morning, everyone. elizabeth zareh here. >> chair ronen: hi, good morning. do you have any comments to share with us? >> sure. i am an attorney. i have been practicing law for the past 24 years and one of the areas which i work in is real estate. in addition to that i am a real estate broker and so i bring in both the legal background and the real estate background to

the commission and this will be a second term. previously i worked as an alternate, served as an alternate in board three and now i'm trying to switch to board one. >> chair ronen: fantastic. thank you so much. and i don't see any questions. i love to see where an alternate is moved to the main seat. so, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> chair ronen: and is mr. lee here, for alternate seat 7? >> yes, good morning. >> chair ronen: good morning. how are you? >> great, how are you? >> chair ronen: great. >> yes, thank you. hello, supervisors, thank you for all of your hard work and taking the time on hearing from the potential appointees. so, yeah, my name is richard lee and have been enjoying my time working as a board member on the estimates appeal board. i believe that i would bring valuable expertise to the board through my day-to-day work.

i work in union square representing several commercial buildings, retail and office, and i have also had -- i had a background in residential, including rent control, some project management, and i feel that i would be a fair and analytical member to the board. i would continue to be diligent in my role here if i get reappointed. i'm a short skip away, you know, to and from my day job, down to union square and back. so i'm accustomed to the route. i miss coming to city hall. i know that 2020 has been a very volatile year, not only for our lives, but revenue too, and how that's going to impact our cities and states. and nationwide, and just for the local board, yeah, it's going to change how 2020, and 2021 and 2022 is going to look. so i'm willing to continue to

lend my services to the board. and i know that it's going to be a very different year. i know that the tax collector and the assessor's office, we're all gearing up for what's to come. so now i have seen a few recessions and this one coming up, yeah, i look forward to staying on and contributing. thank you. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. i appreciate it. seeing no questions, can we please open this up for public comment. >> clerk: yes, the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 1464986060. then press pound, and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. please wait until the system

indicates that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. mr. coe, do we have any members of the public for public comment at this time? >> madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. >> chair ronen: okay, thank you, and public comment is closed. i just want to thank you all for your service as mr. lee said, that we anticipate we're going to be very busy. and so we appreciate you spending your time and lending your expertise to the city in this voluntary role. thank you. any other comments from my colleagues? >> supervisor mar: i just wanted to thank the applicants for your willingness to serve on the assessment appeals board. yeah, and the work of the board is going to be incredibly important. looking ahead with the impacts of covid and the economic crisis, and the dramatic changes to how and where we live and

work. so i think that having really experienced and fair and committed members of the assessment appeals board is really important. so thank you, all of you. >> chair ronen: thank you, supervisor mar. supervisor stefani, did you want to mention anything? >> supervisor stefani: just a huge thank you for being willing to serve. it's amazing that they're willing to give so much of themselves for this, because it takes a lot of time. so, thank you. >> chair ronen: so with that i will make a motion to forward the appointments of diane robinson to seat three, and elizabeth zareh to seat five, and richard lee to seat seven to the board with recommendations. can we have a roll call? >> clerk: yes, on that motion [roll call] motion passes without objection.

>> chair ronen: thank you so much, and thanks again to everyone. congratulations. mr. clerk, please read item number 3. >> clerk: yes. before i make that announcement i would like to let the members know whose items we have already acted upon that you need not to wait on the line. thank you very much for attending. and item number 3 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending september 4, 2023, to the assessment appeals board number 3. we have one seat and one applicant. >> chair ronen: thank you so much. and is mr. jeffrey lee here? mr. clerk, is mr. jeffrey lee on the line?

>> madam chair i was informed that we had been experiencing some technical issues, and perhaps he got bumped off. >> chair ronen: i see. okay. well, why don't we open this up for public comment then, so he has a chance to get back on. mr. clerk, can we please hear public comment. >> clerk: yes, the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 1464986060. and then press pound, and pound again. if you haven't already done so, dial star, 3, to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. wait until the system indicates that you are unmuted and you can begin your comments. do we have any public comments for item number 3? >> yes, i have one caller in the

queue. >> clerk: hi is that you, mr. lee? >> caller: yes, good morning, my apologies. chairman ronen and members, i am, unfortunately, unable to get to the microsoft team but i can see you on sfgov-tv, and i am happy to testify by telephone if that is acceptable. >> chair ronen: that's perfect. thank you so much. very creative. go right ahead. >> caller: okay. well, first of all, thank you for having the meeting this morning and inviting me to speak. so i am an applicant for assessment appeals board number 3, seat number 3. under ordinance 393-98. and my qualifications to serve on the assessment appeals board include 19 years of professional experience as a practicing attorney in california in 2001.