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commissioner adams is currently absent. commissioner dooley has not yet joined. commissioner huie. >> here. >> laguana. >> here. >> ortiz-cartagena. >> here. >> [roll call] >> mr. president we have our quorum. >> wonderful. please call item number two please. >> approval of legacy business registry application and resolution discussion and action item the presenter is richard carillo legacy business program manager. do you need me to provide you with presenting control? >> i think i'm okay. on here,. >> so i can give them to you. >> i think so yes. then my audio is coming through

my phone. i have to share my screen don't i? >> yes. >> okay hold on one minute. okay so share screen. >> we're good take it away. great thank you. good afternoon president laguana, commissioners, office of small business staff. richard carillo legacy business program manager. before you today are five applications for your consideration for the legacy business registry. each application includes a report, a draft resolution, the application itself, and a case report and draft resolution from the planning department.

the applications were submitted to planning november 4th and heard by the historic preservation commission decembe. item 2a, business is a nighttime entertainment venue established by augustineo in 1931 during prohibition. it was a speak easy called the 365 club at 365 market street. the 2365 club is under dual ownership until mr. bimbo became the sole owner in 1936 and established bimbo's 365 club. as a family owned business. three yen jasons later bimbo's is still owned and operated by the family. bimbo's relocated in 1951 to its current location on columbus avenue in an art deco building.

one of most notable features of the business, the girl in the fish bowl feature behind the bar. supper clubs declined in the 1960s and mr. bimbo retired in 1969. the business reinvented itself as a private event space managed by mr. bimbo's son-in-law and bimbo's tuesday serves private and public events, concert shows and performances in a sheik venue known for its seductive interiors provocative of the prohibition era beginnings. 2b, sorry going back to bimbo's. the core featured tradition of business must be maintained to remain on, entertainment venue. 2b is georgia pizzeria. it's a an italian sit down pizzeria.

founded by george anastazio. it has pizza, calzones, pasta and salad. the restaurant is situated in a prominent location at third avenue and clement street. with green awning and a large sign outside and red vinyl booths inside. giorgios pizzeria continually gives back to the richmond neighborhood regularly donating to local schools and hosting events for a variety of schools and organizations. they have also been an employer in the richmond neighborhood since the opening actively employing many of san francisco's college students. giorgios is also employed recent immigrants to san francisco and proud to employ a predominant latin staff. they must maintain the restaurant featuring italian cuisine. item 2c is japan video and media. the business is a retail store in japan centers west mall selling japanese and korean tv

shows and anime merchandise. the store was founded in september 1984 , by and still owned by japanese immigrant. he wanted to make it accessible to americans through english subtitles. today it remains one of the top retailers. organized and anime custom anime fair. the costume parade and fairs continued annually attracting more than 10,000 visitors to japan town each year. historically back gives back to the community it serves donating merchandise to bizarres and festivals each year. the core featured tradition the business must maintain is video store. item 2d is macella's

pizza. a pizza shop originally opened in 1978. it serves pizza, hot subs, calzones, salads and more. in 1996, annie flores became the owner of the store and runs it with her domestic partner and business partner sarah mcnaughty. the food is baked with love, served with pride. their official matto. and have actively supported the lgbtq community since founded. during the aids epidemic they would deliver pizzas to nurses at the san francisco general hospital aids ward 5b and to caregivers and workers at coming home hospice that at the timed hosted mostly people with aids. they also do names project, sisters of perpetual indulgence.

lgbtq center, castro lions club, make a wish foundation and many more. the core featured tradition the business must maintain is restaurant featuring italian cuisine. item 2e is services by david back. a high end decorative wall covering company located in ingall side started by david in 1998. services designs and produces artisan hand painted wallpaper and vinyl and grass cloth wall coverings. everything is done by hand in the traditional method and all are custom tailored for clients. it is a true san francisco can artisan business. it supports hiring local employees. city college of san francisco and san francisco state university job boards. they aim to hire people who have an interest in interior design in the arts and give them real world experience within the industry. the core featured tradition is manufacturing of wallpaper.

all five businesses meet the three criteria required for listing on the legacy business registry and all five received positive recommendation from the historic preservation commission. office of small business staff recommends adding the businesses to the registry and has drafted five resolutions for your consideration. motions should be framed as a [indiscernible]. thank you. this concludes my presentation i'm happy to answer any questions and there business representatives on the line who would like to speak on behalf of the applications during public comment. great. any commissioner comments before we open it up to public comments? commissioner. >> thank you so much. this is a little general comment so if this is the wrong time it's regarding littlecy businesses i wonder if the commission feels there is enough

to have an emergency infusion of funds to give additional money to the legacy businesses that have already been granted given the unique circumstances we're in. that's one thing to just put out there. the second thing is, i know that the legacy business program makes a calculation based on number of employees, but given that the employee number of employees has fluctuated so much in the last nine months i wonder how that might be effecting the money that we've allocated to these businesses? >> so commissioner, ye yekutiel these are appropriate questions, but they are not on agenda so the right time would be new business at the end and then we'll take it up at that time. >> okay. >> consider the seed planted and i will bring it up in new business. >> it's welcome input let's put it that way. so is there any commissioner

comment before we go to public comment? >> seeing none, are there any public commenters on the line? >> commissioner laguana we have supervisor fewer on the line as well who would like to make public comment on this item. >> yes of course and supervisor before you speak, i just want to say i believe this will be the last time you will be speaking on behalf of your folks at the commission. and i want to say for everybody that is watching, i don't know of any other supervisor that has personally come in for each and every single one or close to each and every single one of her nominations in the small business commission, and you have been an extraordinary friend to the businesses in your district and we've been honored to have you here in your presence before the commission. and we thank you for all of your service to the community.

so with that please offer your comment. >> thank you commissioner. and thank you commissioners for having me today. and allowing me to speak about my nomination for legacy business giorgios pizza. giorgios pizza is an institution in the richmond district. it sits at the corner of third and clement and is always busy. giorgios is more than that. it's a trieded and tested place where my residents depend on for a really good san francisco pizza and not only that, but also, on a personal note, my children's sleep overs, birthday parties and multiple parties that they have gone to, we have hosted it is giorgios pizza that we order. this beloved institution is generous also they hire many people from the district. residents and also they donate to many of our good causes here

in the richmond district. full transparency, i have a couple of slices of giorgios pizza left over in my refrigerator right now giorgios special. this is an institution that is beloved by all. it has a unique type of pizza i think, i like to call it sort of the san francisco pizza. i happen to think and, sorry, but i think it is the best pizza in san francisco. i'm equally as honored to nominate it for your judgment today for evaluation to be made at the prestigious legacy business of san francisco. thank you commissioners and it is true that this is my last meeting and i just want to extend my great appreciation for the commission and its consideration of the legacy businesses? you have considered and granted in my district thank you. >> thank you. and your pizza disclosure is noted for the record. [laughter] >> can we get our next public

comment please? >> chair sully do we have callers on the line? >> i have unmuted the first caller. >> okay. >> i would like to thank you forgiving me the opportunity to present [indiscernible] for legacy business program. first, i would like to tell you about myself and i will speak about why we should be nominated. i was born and raised in japan. when i was a senior in college, on july 1969, i took [indiscernible] to arrive in san francisco. which was my dream to see america through my own eyes. the next day on july 20th, i

watched a historic moon landing and watching neil armstrong on tv. it was a dream. after graduating from university i decided to stay to practice my english in the workplace. in september 1984 , i made the first step to realize my dream. i opened japan video with a strong conviction of promising future of the video business. although a recent time straining on the video demand became popular, i had found that when people still want to own a hard copy of their favorite movies. today we have grown to become one of the best sources of anime, live films and special interest movies. from japan and asia.

we have expanded our product lines from dvd to a large collection of anime guides. for that purpose all type with english subtitles. i would like to draw your attention to the point is our strong commitment to community events. 1999, we organized very first annual costume parade in the country to help bring the younger generation to the cherry blossom festival.

adding a contemporary culture. it has been very successful, and one of the most popular events of the cherry blossom festival today. furthermore, to bring more people and invite economic activity, we organize some of this. >> next caller please. >> thank you so much for your comment next caller please. >> >> hello my name is alex, thank you commissioners for letting me speak on behalf of surfaces by david. i'm representing the ocean avenue association, merchants association. we are very very enthusiastically putting before you with the great help of rick carillo the application to print services on the legacy business registry. it's one of those businesses

that makes you love san francisco. it was created here, it hires local. they work with the local schools to raise up our budding artists. they keep their 1920s dating store front in immaculate condition. it's nice to see it you get to see this amazing industrial scene of people making wallpaper. i will keep my comments brief, but i just want to thank richard and the whole staff and i urge you to please accept this application. >> thank you next caller. >> caller you're on the line.

please comment. >> this caller appears to be connected by computer so they may need to figure out their audio settings if they wish to speak that way. >> all right. caller if you call back we'd be happy to reconnect you once you figured that out. next caller please. >> that appears to be the last caller in the queue at this time. >> if the caller calls back we will reopen public comment so the caller can make that comment. if that's okay? commissioner adams. >> i'm sorry actually before we go to commissioner adams , i apologize, richard, i believe you have the remainder of somebody's speech and also public comment on behalf of

bimbos. >> i do. can you hear me? >> we can yes. please. >> great. so, i have the rest of his speech if i may read it. he said furthermore to bring more people and revitalize more we organized the festival and japan center anime fair. every year we donate a number of popular anime goods to the children's state festival and many movies to the san francisco buddhist church to show our appreciation for the support of the japanese american community. i deeply appreciate your consideration of my business into the legacy business registry and help make my dream come true thank you. and bimbos 365 club said they would like to thank you for your consideration in adding them to the legacy business registry. they thank deb, mike and woody who helped with their application. katy from planning department

and rick with the legacy news program. and allison for helping us with their application process. like everyone, we are doing our best to navigate through the pandemic, so we can make it to 2021. when we will be proudly celebrating our 90th anniversary. thank you. >> wonderful thank you. commissioner adams. >> thank you president laguana. thank you richard. these are great nominations today. very good nominations today. and congratulations to all of them. i just want to give a special shoutout to two of them one is bimbos. i have had some of my best memories in san francisco come from bimbos. some of best bands i saw in san francisco. some of best parties i have been to in san francisco. it's really a treasure. and then i'm going to challenge supervisor fewer op the best pizza and that's marcello's. those who live in the castro,

that's our go to pizza place and i am so pleased that they're finally on the business legacy registry and i'm so proud of them and they are so involved in the neighborhood. when i was at a castro merchant they were involved whether it be castro street fair, pride, whatever, i mean they are our rock on castro street so thank you to everyone. >> thank you. >> thank you rick for presenting these stellar applicants and for all of your support getting their circle narratives written out and presented to us. thank you everyone who gave comment. i really love to hear testament to small businesses that have been so engrained in their

community and the struggles of the communities that they serve. especially during the harder times of our city's history like the aids epidemic and i love to hear that we have you know manufacturing production style businesses that are still alive in san francisco and hiring local and i just want to you know thank everybody for being here. of course it's also great to see prohibition there are businesses still around so thank you so much and we really hope that we can contribute and to your legacies. >> thank you. commissioner huie. >> thank you also rick from me for bringing these legacy businesses to our meeting today. and i just wanted to share that you know, this morning i shared the agenda with clement street

merchants and you know we were very excited for i was very excited to see giorgios pizza on the list. and my whole email box today has been just email congratulating them and speaking about you know peoples personal experiences there. so i just wanted to share that you know, the owners at giorgio's have really been champions in the community and one of the key things i noticed from them and people who are champions in the community is that they just always say yes. like anytime there is a request, anytime there is something going on, the answer is always yes. and i don't want to put them on the spot to have to say yes to more, but it's really been a key piece of creating community and maintaining that community so i just really want to thank them for everything that they've

done. other pieces that it sounds like we might need a san francisco pizza competition. it sounds like and that might be appropriate for new business perhaps. but i do think that their pizza and their pastas is amazing. so thank you very much. >> thank you. commissioner dooley. >> i want to just say that all the many, many times i personally have spent at bimbo's having a fantastic time amend over thand overthe years seeingy different generations of party goers going there and you know after 90 years they definitely deserve to be a legacy business and then congratulations to everyone well deserved. >> thank you. so seeing no other commissioner comments, i will say just a

couple of brief words of my own. congratulations to all of the nominees, but i have a couple special words for bimbos which holds a very near and dear place to my heart. i performed there many times, like commissioner dooley have seen many great and amazing performances there. i also want to say i have attended many fundraisers and nonprofit events at bimbos and they played a really big hole in the community and city as a whole in helping create a space for really good worthy stuff like you know, i have been to 826 valencia fundraisers and scholastic fundraisers, but mostly what i want to talk about

is the piano in the bar. the action on this piano is exquisite. it is perfectly balanced between light and heavy. the tone is gorgeously mellow. i don't know how long that piano has been sitting in the bar, but it sounds like it's been mar marinating in old fashioned for all 91 years it's been there. and i have to say out of all of the pianos in the city it is my favorite one to play. i can't wait for the city to come back and open up again so that i can play that piano again. bimbos, and all of the nominees congratulations our hearts go out to you. can we get a motion please? >> a motion to approve the legacy businesses that are on the docket today. >> second it. >> you can put me down.

>> you can have it supervisor chair, commissioner. [laughter] >> i'll pass on the promotion. thank you. [laughter] >> okay motion by commissioner adams to approve the legacy business resolutions as they were presented. seconded by commissioner laguana we'll call a vote. [roll call] >> passes. >> congratulations again to all of the new legacy business members. next item.

>> item 3, presentation san francisco permit >> we're looking forward to seeing your presentation. >> thank you very much. let me see if i am talented any todaenough today this. hold on. >> and rebecca if you want to turn your video off it's telling

me that you have a bandwidth issue on your end. so that might help you out. >> okay. >> the video is off. and now i have the little circle of death. sorry folks. [laughter] >> no problem. take your time. >> okay. let me just get started and say thank you for having me and i will do my intro. my name is rebecca. i'm the current acting director of the center i took over for melissa white house this past october. we're really excited to share some fun facts about the center and i hear we have a number of you coming to visit us at the end of the week so we can't wait to show you the space. my web exi ex, is really angry. >> if it is helpful i can uphold

the presentation i will just need a minute to download it. >> okay. that would be great and i'm going to sorry i'm going to have to close the program so if you leave me i will be right back on. >> no problem. probably the wrong moment for dad jokes maybe it's the perfect moment for dad jokes. >> if you want commissioner laguana to call the minutes? >> let's go ahead and do that. continuing this item, item number 6. >> item 6 approval of minutes from november 3, 2020.

>> are there any members of the public who would like to make comments on item number 6? >> there are no members of the public in the queue. >> all right. do we have a motion? >> i will motion that we approve the draft meeting minutes for november 23, 2020. >> second. roll call vote. [roll call] >> motion passes 7-0 with no absent. rebecca are you back on yet? no she is not.

okay. >> we're out of little tiny items to do aren't we? >> we could move into general public comment. >> um, well, i'm a little worried, somebody who wanted to call in for that, i'm worried if we get too wack doodle they will have missed their spot and even though there wasn't anybody on public comment for the minutes. , but in the absence of anything else to do i think yes here we are. so dominican you want to call number 7. >> i can. i believe i see the commenters who wanted to the member of the public who wanted to make comment on general public comment on the attendee list. >> okay great.

>> let's hope they are listening. >> good news. >> so moving right along to item 7 which is general public comment. this allows members of the public to comment on matters that are within the small business commissioners jurisdiction, but not on today's calendar. and suggest new agenda item for to the commissioner's future consideration that is it a discussion item. i would repeat the public call in line and access number. the number is (415)655-0001. and the access code is (146)737-1011. press pound and then dial star 3 to be added to this line.

has anyone raised their hands? >> so far no one has raised their hand. >> if you are looking to make public comment tonight, on matters not related to any of the agenda items currently on our agenda, please hit pound, star 3 i think it's star 3 right? >> star 3. please hit star 3, to raise your hand and be recognized and we would be delighted to hear your public comment. >> and i would also like to remind the public if you are connected by phone and wish to give public comment instead of star 3 you would need to select the hand icon at the bottom of the participant's list to raise your hand if you are connected by computer. >> and through the president, just in case i do see that our online agenda has skipped

actually item number 6, so, the online agenda has public comment identified as item number 8 so just want to make note of that if anybody is following the web agenda. >> we're all over the place tonight. thank you for your note director and i'm not even going to try to repeat it because i'm lost. but i second what you said. [laughter] >> there is someone who has their hand raised can you call objecon them please? >> yes i will do that. >> wonderful. >> welcome public commenter. please make your comment. >> hello thanks for inviting me on this commissioners for to make the general public. i am the acting executive

director of [indiscernible] and owner of a restaurant. i was pleased to see our wonderful district supervisors in the earlier on meeting and then -- the recognition. my comment today is the dire situation we all face. i am a little frustrated because my business is facing the hardest financial situation ever and i see i would like to see more stronger push for long-term funding requests from a local municipalities from the federal government that is not alone or extension of existing loans. because a lot of us have

exhausted them already. we need brand-new funding, that will be for given that will not be packed later on. and thank you for your leadership in creating the legislation advice for the mayors office. it's wonderful. i would like to ask for that the meetings for at least six months worth of funding for residents and businesses as this crisis for sure will go for another year. thank you for your time. >> thank you. and thank you for your public comment. i will note that sacramento county has begun a landmark program 300,000 payments for those hardest hit by the pandemic which was just announced. so, okay. are we ready yet to go back to

item number whatever? >> rebecca from the permit center has called in. so i will unmute her and then i can upload her presentation rebecca, just let me know when to move on to the next slide. i can't seem to unmute rebecca. >> okay i will try to unmute her. do i need to make you hostess?

>> yeah i can't unmute people only the host can do that. >> great. >> okay and you are speaking of rebecca mayo mayer in the attene list. >> can you hear me? hi. >> okay. >> great. >> we can welcome rebecca thank you for your patience with these technical issues. >> oh, no problem. right back at yeah. this is sort of this is like a little analogy for my permit center. you know since moving, things

have been pretty fluid. we all have to adapt here. >> that's right. all right. we're looking at the presentation take it away. >> great. and okay if we can go to the next slide please. i have noticed my font have changed so if it looks crazy i'm sorry everyone. >> it might be on my end. very unclear. >> so i just want to do a little history i'm not sure if most of has she ever had a chance to speak at the commissioner before, but we'll do this quickly. a year ago, if we can go to the next slide which is before, customers who were permitting in san francisco and like one example i can't think of is if somebody wanted to convert their cafe to a restaurant space, that also had entertainment. they would have to travel all

around civic center. so we had you know 13 plus locations throughout the city where people were doing their per m.i.t.inpermitting businesst presented an opportunity for the permit center to be created. when we started looking at how to use the space and program the space at 49 south, which is the new public building. next slide please. so we have been able to consolidate down to most permitting agencies are within the permit center and then some have greatly reduced and i want to see a little green dot on the

port. next slide please. let's skip down to the one after it. i wanted to share the vision mission and vision statement for the permit center. this is created in the winter of 2018, 2019. with all of the stakeholder departments and mayor. i highlighted within the division statement friendly streamline permit center. those have been our guiding principles as we develop the space and programmed its use and as we work with the departments to help create new services and streamline, processes, we really keep in mind at all times and it guides us in how we decide and make decisions on the things that we're doing. next slide please. so just some fun facts about the

floor. the permit center is the second floor of the new 49 south public building. 39,000 square feet. we have 70 plus public counters, 15 [indiscernible] that we hope to be able to share with customers one day. we have a handful of [overlapping speakers] a lot of space we're hoping to make available in program for customers to use as well as the staff. we know that you know, working with the multiple departments may, may not be an immediate experience and as as much as we try to streamline there will still be some wait time and so we're working to program this so customers have a comfortable space to work in and wait and you know be able to make good use of their time. next slide please. so this is a list of our current permit center departments

building inspection will make us the bulk of our permit center and right now the floor is largely building inspection. everybody is really listed in order of their presence percentage of their presence on the floor. fire department has a large presence they are doing their work here. planning department is doing most work remotely, but they will have a significant presence on our floor when we return back to normal. environmental health. the small business commissioner we have great seats and i'm excited to show you and the entertainment commission. next slide please. then this is a list of our on-call stations so these are departments that the first three are actually in the building. but they don't have a volume of

participants where they need to sit on the floor all the time so, we have this fantastic new cue management system that will work with these departments to teach them how to use and we'll be able to summon them down to the floor when their customers are here. in addition the mayors office on disability, they're currently located at 1155 market street, but question would like to work with them to see if we can create some office hours so they are here. and we're doing some new things with there's a brand-new network in this building that is going to allow us to create hoteling stations so that departments can roll in and out of any seat they want to. and use the space as needed so it gives us a lot of flexibility we've never had before and a lot of city agencies. next slide please. okay and then this is our permit center floor plan so right now,

when you come and visit this week it is not going to look like this. most of the floor will really be dbi and the fire department. but, this is the floor plan that we had worked out with agencies before the pandemic. we hope to largely go back to it post pandemic we know there will be some modifications to it. but you know, again that's a fluid thing and we'll really evolve based on how departments are changing their services and their offerings. because people are frankly bringing more thick things onlid going remote. they may not have as large of an in person presence or may not need to once the pandemic is past us. top left hand corner is dbi. that's where customers will start their building and land use type of work with the department of building inspection. on the bottom, where you see

more kind of colored dots, a large presence from dbi and the planning and fire department, departments will go down with their plan sets and review again we're hoping to have less paper in the future. we are working to move plan review electronic so we may not need as much space to roll out plans. but we shall see. and then the type right corner is really where business and special events come into play. there is two sort of brown dots if you can see them that are stamped lsb. and those are the desks that we have earmarked for the office of small business. and that particular space it's actually really lovely. it's right off of a walkway that unifies the info desk. it looks over the art installation that is hanging in the core. and is really you know, it is

both secluded, but also open to the public so it is a really, we're really excited to show you the space when you come and see it. we were in such a state of construction development i think the last time folks came in and saw so it was hard to imagine what the space has become since we've opened. next slide please. and just a listing of the different services that we will be offering so again construction, per mitting, business permitting, special events permitting. we are designing a print center with the department of reproduction that will offer public and in house print services. we will have notary services on site. so we're really making an effort to allow customers to get all of their work done in one place. we are developing a new cashiering system. i will show you a picture of one

of the pieces in a second. but that system will allow customers to interact with departments in the same consistent way and we're hoping to expand and do more training services for customers on key services. so before the pandemic, we were doing customer trainings on electronic plan review, we weren't able to do those in person as planned, but we are really excited to make use of some of this great space here and find ways to bring training and development opportunities for our customers. help them learn to use our services better and learn more from them so we can be better. capabilities include experiencing a friendly customer service team. we have hired a group of we will be ten by early 2021. of trained and experienced customer service professionals

from various industries that are currently working on the permit center floor. they will really become a conduit between all of the departments learning services, about all of the agencies that are here. and being able to help customers with a broad set of questions and work with them. so that we just have a unifying thread customer service through across all of these departments when somebody comes into the building. we have a state-of-the-art cueing system that we're working with and we'll continue to work on more digital services to provide streamlined friendly and efficient experiences. next slide please. and just some quick pictures. oh, one of the pictures flipped on its side. oh, actually two of them did. well that's no fun. maybe let's not linger on these. when you come you will see it in person.

kind of crazy. oh, and these pictures went crazy too on the conversion. left hand side is our cueing system and right hand side is a squished up picture of the payment kiosk. part of our payment solution delivery will be we have a traditional point of sale system like a cash register. very very fancy cash register, but we also have payment kiosks to allow customers to just run in and make a payment if they have received an invoice and be done or if they don't want to wait in line that they can make a payment and grab the receipt and walk away. next slide please. next slide please. let's see how my time line held up. this is just a click. kind of overview of the permit center journey. really it began in 2018 when the

permit center director was hired. and she spent you know, probably about three months really learning and doing research and analysis on our space and going through volumes of information that the controllers office put together on the department services and potentially for the space. and once she learned that information she began hiring up our team and then we got to work and we spent much of 2019 putting the permit center together. so precaring systems, doing research, working with service designers to understand customer experiences and to develop and implement and reenvision how our services should work. early 2020 we began rolling out electronic plan review, training staff, training customers, moving materials and getting

ready to launch that and then the pandemic hit. and that meant we needed to pause on work we were doing. and shifted resources and really spent a lot of summer on two things. one we had to continue to move. there was a time line we were obligated to meet so you know, thousands of employees moved into the building. and we were part of each one of the moves working with public works and the real estate division on miscellaneous pieces. a lot of it was it related, but getting everybody settled and getting their desks ready. and then in addition we reallocated a lot of our resources to the department of building inspection to a system. and then towards the end of august, early september, things

settled down. you know we got into our grove of how work waour groovehow wore through the pandemic. that allowed us to add more in person services. in addition to doing planned drop off for over-the-counter work and we have a lot of resources that are assisting with appointment services for dbi, we're also assisting with bringing in fire only permit customers and the environmental health has added appointments that we help bring their customers in safely and get them to the environmental health folks. public works has added drop off services and we're part of that as well. we were hoping to open up to in person over-the-counter services this winter. unfortunately, we pulled back on that for health and safety reasons.

we will revisit it sometime early january we'll just continue to monitor the covid rates and adjust and again, a lot of this has been really fluid. i will say the staff across all of the departments have been pretty fantastic. doing their best to work in a really unstable environment. things change from week to week. they have been doing you know their best to keep up. we try to weave in and out as as much as we can and pick up slack for whatever the departments need. but really our main focus has been customer service and making sure that we keep the in person customers moving.

>> as we add more services. we willed a customer experience solution so that we can hopefully build some automated bats to respond to inquiries quicker and build a building base to provide more information to customers at their fingerti fingertips. i will skip strategic planning. we will pick up special business and events work at the end of the year. we want to resume the events planning work we were doing. we need to reconfirm which business services are coming to the space. a lot of things changed for the department. they brought more services online. that will help us create post pandemic service plan to understand what the new world

is. that is the permit center. in a few minutes. i will take a breath and see if anybody has any questions. commissioner yekutiel. >> i am in my small business. something just happened. this is commissioner yekutiel. thank you for the presentation. i have a couple questions. i actually pulled up my photograph of me in the planning building with my plan for when i

recently visited a couple years ago. all of these memories flooded back. i am so excited about this. someone recently moved the plans through the process himself without help of anyone. i did it alone. i can still feel the sweaty armpit of nervousness and anxiety i had sitting in that building. quick questions. one, where will pick be related to the new permit center. >> pick is actually on the permit center floor. i will explain the floor plane. -- floor plan in the bottom middle of the floor. they are in the middle of the floor, easy to get to. >> same floor as all of the different counters? >> yes, exactly. they will be five of the 70 counters that are available.

>> okay. great. that is helpful. it looked like from the floor plan and we will see this when we visit in person. each of the different departments have a different sectioned off area. one thing helpful in having all of the counters in one area, when something was an miss in one defendan department they wot out to the other department. that ability to have them all-in-one area is lost in this plan. you get more overall tables, is that correct? >> that is the floor space that is bigger. what we are giving you because we are more spread out, you have the crackerjack customer service reps that can help move you around the floor or help active runners, frankly, in between departments. if a customer or department needs something, you have a team

of people ready to jump to assist customers and staff. >> that is great. when the occupation expediter was explained. it was so sad we needed people to do this. i am glad there are people on staff to help answer questions of folks like me who are competent but need to figure out where to go first then next. dph in order to get the dph set of permits for moving through man check you had -- plan check you had to go through dph. you don't have to go there. you can get it all done in the same place? >> yes, they should be sitting on the floor, and they should be a routing station. your plans can be walked over to somebody if you have physical plans and they can stamp them.

i hope that really what we are dealing with you have an electronic set of plans, and all departments are in a session and can electronically stamp them for you. >> there was something satisfying about a physical stamp. i understand that is more sustainable and probably easier. do the assembly permits you don't have to go to second street any more? >> fire will have the second street staff and their former 1660 street or mission street folks all-in-one space together. >> i have to say for folks who have gone through this, having requiring folks to go to dph then fire then notary. you have your own notary, hello. i had to go find a notary in san francisco. it was complicated. i am so glad to hear second street fire assembly permits on

one floor, pick on the same floor and there will be on site nottary services? yes, certified in january, hopefully. >> this is amazing. >> my last question. you know, the process of moving through plan check can that a long time. for me i was there. i got there at 9:00 and left at 5:00. in the old planning building no concessions and no nearby restaurants of any kind. if you have low blood sugar and get hungry it was tough. you can't leave because they call out your name. then if you miss your name you are screwed. will there beacon sessions in this new floor plan at all, snack bar or something? >> two-part answer to your question. one, no, no concessions here. next door to us in the

residential tower there is a retail space for a cafe. unfortunately, with the pandemic i don't know if it is the same vendor selected previously. it is suspected a cafe or restaurant space. we also have a wonderful system that will let you leave. we are planning to use that even during the pandemic so customers can wait in the car or away from the permit center to limit the people on the floor. you can leave and go to the market and get a salad or coffee, and then you will have anywhere between five and 15 minutes to come back to the permit center when you are summoned, cell phone and e-mail. >> for fellow commissioners who haven't had the pleasure of going through this.

it is like dmv. you wait for a long time. put in your name and someone calls out your name. if you miss it, they just go to the next person and you lose your spot. there were a lot of people. the question about concessions is important because if you had to get up to get water or get a bite to eat or use the rest room and they called your name and you missed it, that was it. that happened a couple times. it was sad. it is really exciting to hear a cueing system. too bad no snack bar on the premises. the fact you can leave solves that problem. thanthank you very much. this is exciting. >> vice president zouzounis. >> thank you for the presentation. i am excited about this permit center. the goodwill that used to be from provided customers to the

businesses in the area, and i know a lot of them are looking forward to having a customer base nearby again. i don't know if you had this number in earlier slides. what is the maximum goal for number of employees that you believe are going to be working at the permit center? >> actually presently because i just had to do this for health and safety plan. we have up to 80 employees on the floor right now. that is during the pandemic. it will probably be about the same. d.b.i. is working maximum capacity right now as is the permit center team. then with the building full, honestly i don't know. it is thousands of employees that will end up staffing the building when it is open again.

>> that is great. that is great. to answer commissioner's question there are a lot of businesses across the street, down the alleyway. this is a spot for small family owned cafes and food trucks. i am excited for them to be able to retain some of the customers coming through. we hope the customer representatives give people recommendations for nearby spots to go while they are waiting for their name to pop-up. i am excited for the tour on friday. thank you so much. >> i wish i would have known this i would have texted you for a recommendation. >> it is down the alleyway from the permit center. we are excited to have a customer base. the goodwill folks were like

family for a while. looking forward. >> great. any other commissioner comments? this is something the small business community has been waiting for for a long, long time. it is representing a children in how the city does business. it is going to be fascinating in the wake of the pandemic how much business as a whole and the city business moved offline into work from home. it will be fascinating to see how that plays into this. i think regardless there is a need for in person services, and i am sure the rest of the commission agrees with me.

godspeed. you have our full support, and if there is anything we can do to help, we would certainly be glad to do so. the preps as presented look like a great starting point to move forward. let's continue to stay in touch, and fingers crossed, by summer we are starting to get back into being able to go in person and be indoors together and have a normal life again. >> thank you very much. likewise. we hope to be able to partner with you and really need for us to thrive and do well need data and input from external entities to tell us how we are doing and what things are working and what things are not. we welcome the feedback and

looking forward to a great partnership in the future. >> absolutely. we are committed to being a friendly and positive partner in making that happen. as you and i well know, no matter what plans we make they will fall apart and be completely broken the seconded we hit the ground running. i am sure we will have more input when that happens. what you presented so far looks great and i am excited to see it happen. it is hard to imagine how that wouldn't be a substantial improvement how things were before. >> mr. president before we closeout the item, i want to make one note in terms of office of small business space. we are excited that we have been included in the permit center, and we are there because we know that businesses are going to hear about the one stop permit

center and go there. they are going to go before they are really ready to engage in permitting. they are doing research and development. our space is there to really catch those businesses. often they need a conversation to help them think through all of the considerations before they engage with the department. there are many other considerations that in terms of operating a business not just related to permitting, just the permitting to get your business open. we are excited to have space to be a value add for departments to be able to direct individuals to so that they don't have to go to city hall and walk the three blocks to city hall to get their questions answered. our presence won't be there

until likely -- i mean rebecca will give me an idea, but we likely won't be there until the permit center is fully operational, until there is no longer requirement around social distancing protocols. that will be, you know, aways away. we will be there and we are very excited about it. >> will this be supplemental to the city hall location? will people go to both locations or in place of? >> supplemental. they will be able to go to both places. >> are there just for my future note. are there any staffing or budget changes to happen to the office of small business to accommodate that or are we good to go with the folks we have now? >> we may need to give that

consideration. right now the plan is to have staff rotate. then we will be able to make a determination as to the volume, both if we begin to see increased volume of service needs by having the two locations, we will make that determination. >> thank you. we should go to public comment. any public commenters on the line? >> there is no one in the queue at this time. >> seeing no public comment, public comment closed. any further commenting, commissioners? seeing none, rebecca thank you for coming and persevering through the technical issues. we appreciate the update and look forward to talking to you again in the future. >> thank you very much. >> look forward to seeing you later this week, too.

>> next item, please. >> item 4. proposed special committee on racial equity and subsequent appointments. articled v establishes special committees maybe formed for limited duration for a specific purpose. president shall designate a commissioner to serve as chair of special committee. chair shall work with the director to accomplish said task. unless the commission specifies otherwise, the president is empowered to appoint member to special committees. the committee may be formed by a majority vote of the commission. discussion and action item. >> all right. so this is important work for the commission and central to our mission. i know this is something we all

care deeply about. i feel like we started to talk about who might want to participate in such a committee, but, director, can you remind me where we last left things or did we leave things? >> yes, mr. president. so where we last left things was in august your recommendation that the commission have members work on the equity work in between meetings so that we -- because our meetings are full. not taking meeting time to do some of the work, and at my recommendation, my

recommendation was to consider vice president commissioner zouzounis, commissioner dooley and commissioner ortiz-cartagena as special committee members and they all said, yes, they are interesting to do the work laid out not only in what is required of reporting to the office of racial equity, but if there is additional work that the committee and commission thinks the commission should take up. >> great. >> first step would be the official formation of establishing the committee. it doesn't necessarily have to have the members identified. the commission approves that special committee is formed. >> okay. do we vote to create the committee? >> yes.

>> great. would it be acceptable to make a motion to form the committee? >> yes. >> okay. >> you would have to take public comment first. >> any public commenters on the line? >> there is no one in the queue at this time. >> i would be delighted to nation the smoke to form the commission. >> i second that motion. >> motion by commissioner laguana to form the committee on rake equity. seconded by commissioner adams. roll call vote. >> commissioner adams. >> yes. >> commissioner dooley. >> yes. >> commissioner hule. >> yes. >> commissioner ortiz. >> yes. >> commissioner yekutiel. >> yes. >> motion passes 7-0 with no

absents. >> before the next item, real quick. just so i am clear on procedure and process when do we designate members? what is the process for fo for designating members, when will they report back in what is the timeline so i make sure the agenda is properly reflects our obligations? >> yes. the commission -- the rules of order do not speak to an absolute requirement for the commission to vote on the committee members. it ithey can. it is a special committee based upon the work that the special

committee will do, there could be a time where it might be having other members come in not made up of the committee. that is to your discretion now that the special committee would be made. right now in terms of the appointment who sits on it formally with you establishing who the is the chair of the commission. that answers your question. in terms of setting the timeline. the timelines for the work that the commission has to meet for the office of racial equity, the work is to be done between january and june of 2021. the first key metric to meet is

amending the bylaws to reflect racial equity and that is due to the office of racial equity in march. the remaining items are to be done and completed by the end of june. >> in terms of next steps everything happens offline until the committee reports back in. >> correct. >> okay. we will follow up with that then offline. unless there is further commissioner discussion. i didn't mean to skip over you, commissioner adams. >> thank you. no problem. we used to do these committees a lot in my early days on this commission.

they are very helpful. it is at your discretion who is on them. i do believe director the meetings with the appointees have to be in public, correct? >> yes. >> they will help you more than you realize, and the choice is the three who want to do it are excellent choices. any support i can give to this, i will. thank you. >> i concur on the choices and i also concur on i think the output will be extraordinary and extraordinary narrowly helpful. i am looking forward to it very much. vice president do you d zouzoun. >> i am looking forward to this

formation to centralize some of the work of the commissioners who were recommended to work on the committee outside of the commission are ready if it is an ethnic trade association or equity neighborhood that we focus on. i am excited to kind of institutionalize that work further. i am interesteeded in the understanding of the small business equity reporting so we can line up our goals and work on that and be informed with issues you are finding in the office during intake processes. that is all i have to say for now. we will talk next steps offline. >> thank you so much. thank you to the committee

members for stepping up and taking on this additional responsibility. i know we have all taken on a lot. this is a big job. i appreciate you doing this. any other commissioner comments? seeing none. next item. please. >> 5. resolution number 2020-003. support for nightlife and entertainment venues. resolution establishing the commission's support for night light and entertainment venues and urging the mayor and board of supervisors to provide economic relief. discussion and action item. >> commissioners you received the draft resolution in your packets. this is a follow-up to the

entertainment agenda item we had last week. this is a resolution that will support this industry, which we all agree is valuable cultural asset to our city. presumably everybody has had time to review. do you have any questions? this is a good time. i did want to mention our clerk has submitted a few amendments to address non substantive changes to make sure we are amenable to the changes. now is a good time to talk about the resolution in front of us if you have any questions or comments. >> there is the senior policy and drafter of the resolution. i have three amendments that i would like to submit for the resolution. first in the seventh paragraph

and the first sentence place of entertainment should be capitalized. just for the record. on the eighth paragraph i wanted to also include and apologies for not having this included initially, but that entertainment also includes bars like music venues and nightclubs and highly concerned they would need to close permanently. i want that also included in the resolution. the next paragraph, the ninth paragraph, i would like to add that same language that bars like music venues will need to close permanently and in addition more than half of survey respondents to the survey

reported having lost between 75 to 100% of expected business income and between 75 to 100% of expected individual income for the year 2020. that is what i will be adding to the resolution if the commissioners are amenable to that. >> do we need a vote on it? >> yes. >> okay. i move we take a vote on it. >> point of procedure question. i have an amendment i would like to add to. shall we do it now? >> do it now. >> just before we do that. we need to take public comment and there should as fares i

understand there should only be one vote to approve with amendments as presented, is that correct? >> yes, all amendments, proposed amendments should be presented now. then we have -- public comment on the amendment and then actually on the amendment -- sorry. amendments presented and public comment on the amendment and the resolution because you need to hear the public as to whether they want to urge you to accept those amendments and then action on the amendments and full resolution. >> are there two votes or one vote? >> my understanding there is one vote. >> it is two votes. you have to vote to accept the amendment and then on the full.

on the resolution with the amendments. >> she will make the proposed andments then open up if there are any others for public comment. >> after all of the amendments? >> right. >> do we vote before public comment or after public comment? >> you vote after public comment because you want to hear whether the public wants to have you accept those amendments or not. >> i apologize. do you want to make the proposed amendment? >> yes, the only comment i wanted to add and we can vote on it. the line that gives recognition

to entertainment venues part of cultural districts or cultural. i know we have a lot that are specific to communities. they are recognizing that. >> what would you like it to say? >> i mean i think it can go after the one of the sentences in which we recognize entertainment venues are culturally significant in san francisco. then we canlaborate and say specifically venues that holed cultural significance and the

communities or part of cultural districts? >> i would see the drafter of the resolution that it might go in after the whereas where it says -- the first page whereas entertainment nightlife businesses are historical to the san francisco unique cultural and contribute significantly to the vibrancy of the city. after that one. >> in line with something whereas many of our entertainment and nightlife

businesses are of special cultural significance to the cultural districts they reside in. >> or the communities they were founded in or something like that. >> did you get that? >> yes. >> okay. we need to vote on these amendments now. public comment. sorry. tell me five different times and i won't remember. is there any additional commissioner comments before public comment? >> i just want to say this is exactly what this commission should be doing. this is a very powerful statement. it needs to be said. we need to push more envelopes. i don't about you.

after that presentation last week, i couldn't sleep. this really bothered me. i am happy we are doing this. we all want to be law-abiding and do what is right in this pandemic and follow the law and do what is right. these people are getting screwed. excuse my language. it breaks my heart. this commission is doing exactly what it should be doing. pushing the envelope and pushing, pushing, pushing. i commend each and every one of you for this. thank you, president laguana for having the people speak last week. we have to hear more of this. right now we are in trouble, folks, if something doesn't happen sooner than later. i read this. it is excellently written and i really appreciate these amendments you are putting in.

thank you, vice president zouzounis. this is good. thanks. >> thank you, commissioner adams. i think the lion's share of the credit goes to the excellent clerk for drafting the resolution building on some language provided to us by the entertainment coalition. i share your feelings about the entertainment community and the testimony we heard last week. i think your suggestion that we hear more direct testimony from people affected is a good suggestion and we would be wise to follow up on that in this moment this community is decimated, not just entertainment but small business community as a whole. we have really had a tremendous

obligation and responsibility to do everything to advocate for them. that is what this commission was chartered to do. i am deeply proud of the commission and the commissioners that i serve with and the staff of the osb that be can take testimony from folks and turn around with a resolution to get behind a short time later. with that, i think we should go to public comment. if i understand this correctly, and i probably have managed to mingle it. public comment will first be on the amendment. then we will take a second round of public comment on the resolution as a whole. is that correct? >> mr. president, you can hear public comment on both items. you want to -- the public is

able to make comment on the the full resolution and make comment on the proposed amendment. then after public comment, then you would take those amendments, vote on those and then vote on the final resolution. >> one of those days i will learn how to do stuff. we will have more comment after the public comment. >> it is about a potential amendment. can you and perhaps explain why the new number amount was not included in the financial desires? i am sure there was a reason for it. i feel like giving specifics is useful but i am sure there was a reason why we didn't include in the resolution how much money this community needed in

financial support. >> this is the senior policy analyst donovan. i read the package of recommendations. i also drafted and helped form our commission's recommendation to the mayor and board of supervisors regarding federal economic stimulus and relief. there is not one number that i believe would satisfy the need for this industry that the city could likely provide. this industry is decimated. i don't know there is one that could be provided.

i did want to include that from the survey, from the entertainment and nightlife survey, these 318 businesses reported that they can expect up to 100% loss of personal income and revenue for the entire year. with respect to that, that is what -- i mean $318 million, $400 million at the very least. these businesses are grossing more than $1 million per year in order to pay for staff and their own personal expenses. if you would like to include an amount that is 100% up to you. given the fact that i don't know there the going to be any one

for one number that would meet the need. >> that may beings sense. i know that other departments and industries are asking for certain dollar amounts based on conjecture, but they understand from a negotiating point. it puts them in a much stronger place. what we heard loud and clear from the last meeting last week they need money. they need not be evicted which is great. one of the main crux of the issues is they have very high fixed overhead costs that aren't going away. commercial eviction is one piece of it, but we need to put money in the bank accounts to pay their bills.

i don't know how to square this circle. i understand how like it feels like pulling the number out of a hat. we did hear $48 million in the last -- that was on the proposal. that is a lot of money, also, maybe those venues that doesn't apply to all folks with entertainment. intelligent people crafted this. i am not proposing a specific amendment. i want it out there that it puts us in a tougher negotiating spot when we don't put a range or wouldn't it be nice if or we expect the financial ruin to equate to x amount because it then makes it harder for the elected officials to know how much they should be ballparking advocating for. >> we included in that letter to

the mayor and board of supervisors that the advocate for $10 billion in set asides for ppp loans for san francisco small businesses. we also had another section within that letter that spoke to the specific needs of the entertainment and nightlife businesses. that grants be established specifically for independent venues for those expenses that you just mentioned. >> that was in the supplemental crtf letter? >> no that was the letter. >> we just can't as a commission advocate for a specific dollar amount from directly to the federal government. we have to do that through the board. >> right. >> if i may.

so commissioner, as always, you have a very sharp and pointed suggestion that, no, i mean that in the best possible way. i love holding feet to the fire and really trying to put a specific number on it, you know, there is a lot of setting an anchor price and negotiating from there. the challenge with respect to this particular resolution, in my view, is the 908 bill for federal stimulus that they are calling it now bipartisan agreement. i got the draft language. it is a $700 billion bill. now they have taken out the aid to the cities and liability and

that is a separate bill so this bill doesn't get caught up in that. the $700 billion including $300 billion for ppp to allow first round ppp recipients to go back and get second round. i think part of the problem here for me and there is also some stuff for other expenditures. i guess part of it for me is when we are literally days -- potentially hours away from there being a dramatic children in the amount of money that is -- dramatic change to the amount of money available to the city and businesses, it seems premature to specify an amount when things could be dramatically different tomorrow.

with that being said, maybe that is the wrong take on it. maybe you just put a number out there. i also try to balance. i mean my take on it i want the commission to have credibility and don't want to make the commission look like we are not in touch with the other side of the balance sheet. >> that point is well-taken. i am not -- i see this document as a guiding document for our advocacy as a commission to the folks making the decisions on behalf of this community, the next question after someone gets this. how much? as long as we seem to have a good answer to that question if asked. if it is you commissioner or director how much money does the

community need? great. if we did want to add language, which i am not necessarily proposing. it could be something to the effect of the san francisco venue coalition estimated the amount needed to fully plug the hole to be in the estimated $48 million. something like that. it is not the small business commission but passing off work done by the coalition last week saying the san francisco venue coalition estimated the amount of relief they require would be $48 million. at least, you know, if a member of the board of supervisors takes this to the budget committee meeting they can say i heard that they need at least $48 million to plug the hole. >> i think that is a reasonable suggestion. why don't we put that in the whereas. that is an additional amendment

whereas the entertainment venue coalition. >> the san francisco venue coalition. not independent. they are different be. >> yes, i understand. whereas the san francisco venue coalition determined that the entertainment community would need $48 million in order to sustain itself through this next phase of the pandemic. >> the only wrinkle to that is that was specifically for venues. the resolution expands, not just venues. familiar. >> that's right. >> it is other things. >> we have a birth of a conundrum. the number floated for subset of the group that we are doing the

resolution on and we lack data to form it. >> i am sorry to have caused the wrinkle in this commissioner laguana. mannys has an entertainment permit. we a venue. i don't know. director do you think adding in the numbers in this resolution would add teeth needed or distracting and unnecessary. >> you know i have a better path. >> i missed this sparring. >> why don't we move forward with the resolution as drafted. then let's make a commitment to revisit this in our first

meeting in january, and it can be a quick agenda item. at that point we will know a couple different things. one, we will know what if anything the board of supervisors have done for entertainment to date. we know what the federal government has done to date. we will have perhaps a better sense from the entertainment community what they might need to get to the next four to five months. then we can make an additional resolution. we are not limited to one resolution. we can make another resolution that is more specific and we can use the time remaining between now and then to put a finer number on this. with a little more basis and research than we are able to do right now during this hearing.

>> sounds good. >> thank you, commissioner. >> is there any other amendment before public comment? are we 100% there are no more amendments? commissioner your lips are moving. i thought you were making another amendment. >> no, no more amendments. i am amendmented out. >> can we have public comments. any public comment on the line. >> three callers on the line. >> let's hear from them. >> hi. thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak. i am calling in support of the san francisco venon you coalition and this resolution is near and dear to my heart.

i am richard wilson. i made this my career for 20 years. street level promoter, stage hand, worked in operations and have been the head of security for the local san francisco venue. the san francisco nightlife and music scene has not only kept me employed it has been my life. we are suffering. there are no remote work options for us like there are in the tech industry. we rely on the ability to gather in public for our industry. the outlook for the future seems bleak. we are the first industry to take the hit and the last industry to come back. public gathering are once again safe -- who news when that will be. we are struggling. i can assure you we need stages to come back to when the public gatherings are safe again.

stage hands, ushers bartenders promoters, security, lighting and sound we need your help. that is all i have to say. >> thank you for your comment. >> thank you so much for taking the time to take up this matter. i am rob. we spoke last week. i am urging you to do two things. a, pass this resolution in support of entertainment and nightlife. it is vitally important for the city's culture. b, i am urging you to draft a second resolution that is specific to venues.

>> hello, commission. i am allison. thank you for hearing me. i am part of the san francisco venue coalition. also, former gm of 365 club. this particular meeting is really special, near and dear. thank you for all of those kind words in item number 2. you guys know bimbos is unique. it is irreplaceable. the truth is that the business has been closed since march. it hasn't had any options, unlike restaurants or any other retail stores that have other revenue forces during this pandemic, and it is bittersweet to have a legacy business registry when we are closed and knowing that we are totally on

the line. encouraging to pass this resolution. let's do it. let's get that first step but let's keep going. it is true. thank you, commissioners, we need funding. like i said we are on the line. i know i it is a huge bezel and there are -- huge puzzle. we need your help and i can tell this commission is on board with this. please do it for bimbos. i miss that place. thank you. i do urge for that second amendment, too. we will keep coming to the meetings, too. thank you. >> if thank you. next commenter, please.

>> i am a member of the sfvc and i would like to urge you to pass this resolution. i would also like to respectfully ask the commission to acknowledge that we are hoping for federal aid, but looking to this city to contribute to financial contributions to preserve the culture. there is always a question of where the money comes from, and $48 million is not a small chung of change. recently is supervisor haney pointed to city emergency relief fund. we are aware the state has a tax surplus. i know this commission does not have jurisdiction to allocate those funds to us, you guys have done a great job in bringing awareness to the issue. i would ask you continue to do

so and help us get to those funds so that our staff can return and we can all come back to work and help the city recover. thank you. >> okay. next commenter, please. >> hello. thank you. i am duncan, part of the sfvc. co-worker of rob readies. you know the numbers. i don't need to reiterate that. i want to call somebody who is grown up in the area and going to shows since i could. [please stand by]

>> as you know, independent venues have huge heart beat of the city. being the first businesses to close and going to be the very

last to reopen, we're staring down this massive amounts of debt and bankruptcy. shows lot of the tenacity of these people in the city and how much they know we're worth to hold on to get back. we will not get back until december or fall of 2021. it's heart breaking. in order to get to the other side, almost going to be 18 months of zero revenue. it's going to be a patch work of city, state and federal relief. we do thank you for amplifying the voice of independent venue in san francisco. i say again, it's zero revenue. i can't think of another business that has not been able to operate since this pandemic began. we worry about the plight of

business. we're in communication with employees, contractors and vendors. they're hurting. we heard these stories from the venue coalition last meeting. thank you to the commissioners, steven adams for recognizing how difficult it is to hear these stories. we're fighting here in san francisco to bring awareness and relief so we can survive and help rebuild the city, independent venues have been trying to recover. raising awareness to the mayor and board of supervisors is going to be critical to money actually being spent to invest in the future by san francisco. as you know, president laguana

stated, we have our fingers cross-ed this federal stimulus comes through. for cities and business and individuals, i don't think the fight stops there. we need to work together to work on specific policy and programs that ensure that venues are not excluded. we look forward to engaging in conversations and come up with tangible relief for independent venues in the city and can't thank you enough. thank you very much for all of your time and for helping to champion this cause. thank you very much. >> thank you, next comment please. >> clerk: that was was the last one one. >> president laguana: okay. is there any additional commissioner comments after the public comment? while i wait, i'll say something.

this is not going to be only resolution we don do on this ma. this is not the only action we take on this matter. this is just the beginning. we're going to move the ball forward now while we can. we're also going to keep focusing on what we can do to make more movement quickly and as president of this commission, i will commit to following up with all of you in the entertainment community and making sure that we get some actual real measurable progress out of this. >> commissioner yekutiel: my take away from -- this is in general, a lot of us probably feel this way, there does seem to be this black box of where the money is.

i know we were presented to by our esteem controller who explained the budget. i can imagine that everyone is coming to the city for money for things. now. we're in a time of recession. it will be really helpful to understand what are potential places, specific funds we can ask about. they mentioned on this call, the city had an emergency relief fund. i'm not sure what that is. where is that housed? i saw recently that the city administrator had her own discretionary fund. i'm sure there's a reason for that. are there discretionary funds,

does oewd have discretionary, we know there's a fund that's for some stuff. we revealed last week, $406 million sitting in accounts. we know there's legal issues. we find out through the press there's $406 million sitting in the account. i guess this is directed towards the director and the president. if you guys know of particular funds with fancy names that have pots money in them, it would help us with our advocacy. we can ask about those funds and see what's left in them. that make sense? >> president laguana: it does. i think -- having been chasing

after this and programs i'll let the director speak to this. >> commissioner yekutiel: it's almost like you're trying to get into a really hot restaurant. you know you need to say like i'm with bill kind of thing. it's almost like there's some kind of secret budgetary password you have to use. what about about that emergency relief fund. oh, that fund the one with $100 million in it that hasn't been touched. >> i think, as we know with hdso money, there's regulations. taking your interest and your

request, i can't say that i know where the pots of money are. some of them are particularly assigned to certain things. are there as emergency spending or funding extra funding for certain types of spending. it's to go back to the controller and ask for that list and where all the -- what is that additional money, the emergency money. where does it live and are there specific spending requirements attached to that money? i can tell you, oewd does not have a magic pot of money. it most certainly wished it does or could. any magic money that happen for

oewd for money that is transferred into oewd? >> president laguana: that is the challenge. well, commissioner yekutiel, it's a great suggestion. we need to pursue this offline and vote on the resolution in front of us now. so we get something done. >> commissioner yekutiel: sir, yes, sir. [laughter] >> president laguana: i move that we support the resolution and amendments as currently drafted. >> you first need to adopt the

amendment as proposed. >> president laguana: i move we adopt amendment as proposed. >> second. >> clerk: i believe that was a tie. commissioner adams or dooley. who like to have it? >> it was miriam. >> i'll second it. >> clerk: miriam, motion to approve? >> vice president zouzounis: sec ond. >> clerk: roll call vote. [roll call vote]

>> sometimes i fear the clerk of the board is watching our meeting. she's sitting back and laughing in her chair at how disorganized the clerk small business seems sometimes. >> president laguana: every time i do that intro at the beginning, i aspire to have a speaking voice as good as hers. i know i'm like nowhere near. that's the gold standard for public speaking in my view. >> clerk: that motion passes 7-0. no one in the dissent or absent. is there a second motion?

>> vice president zouzounis: jus t clarification, we voted on the amendment and now we're voting on the full? >> clerk: yes. >> president laguana: i motion that we approve the full resolution with amendments. >> seconded. >> clerk: motioned by commissioner adams to approve the resolution with the amendment previously voted on by commissioner laguana. roll call vote. [roll call vote]. motion passes 7-0. we are now on item 8, which is the director's report update report on office of small

business and small business assistance center, department programs and people and legislative matter and announcements from the mayor and announcements regarding small business activity discussion items. >> thank you commissioners. first, i want to start off by congratulating commissioner yekutiel for being passed out of the rules committee out of sfmta board. congratulations to you. then, i also want to extend, this is our last meeting of calendar year 2020. hard to believe that we are here. i want to extend my appreciation to media services for their support that they provided to

the staff and for you as commissioners in running our meeting. and really helping the city get through this process and be able to conduct this business in a virtual environment. we all have learned many new and great things from that. thank you media services, sfgov tv, i just really appreciate all that you have done to support us. to move on to -- i have a very short report tonight. i want to let you know -- i'm going to monthly report out our client service numbers. i am reporting the november total. our staff served 313 businesses.

13 businesses came through inquiries from the sf business portal. note that this sort of -- this number kind of takes us back to numbers pre-covid. we're going to get into doing new business services. the engagement time with each of those businesses is longer because we're not being able to conduct it in person. 25 businesses were assisted in spanish and nine businesses were assisted in chinese. 14% of that 313 were prestart-up. 14% of the 313 were businesses with less than one year in business. then 40% of the businesses had one or more years in business.

we assisted hand full in businesses in closing their business and four businesses seeking assistance in relocation. the top four district that we served, this is in order, is d3, d fine9, d10 and d6. also has a high equity reflection as well. the top issue, there's some interesting issues that has arisen in the last couple of weeks. one is we're in greater need for legal assistance around leases and rent and small businesses. i do want you to know that the office of economic and workforce development is working to engage the bar association to help

provide the legal assistance. legal services for entrepreneurs is -- the demand is very great that's coming through them. to help keep up with the volume and the need, we're going to be expanding that assistance to the bar association. we're also seeing businesses predominantly food related businesses that have more extensive p.i. and preopening costs. their getting their business open. several have just begun the process when covid hit. there was definitely a pause when construction for the business, commercial business sector wa was not allowed.

businesses are getting close to opening but they're finding they don't have enough funding to complete their project. the funding, there's not enough funding out there for newly starting businesses. of course, these businesses aren't eligible for the idle and the ppp because they were not in operation in 2019. any of the covid funding, they're not eligible for. i want to say that i'm very happy that the commission did put in it recommendations to the mayor for federal funding that we do need to substantially also increase funding for newly starting businesses. we want to make sure those that

did get started, not go out of business or don't have opportunity to start their business. we need to make sure, we have enough funding to help new businesses going as well. that's a key part of our economic recovery. i want to extend my appreciation that commission also gave back in consideration in its recommendation. i am working with oewd, we are getting inquiries from our services and massage. only key distinction is that technically medi spas do have a doctor on site to do some doctor procedures but the doctors don't perform the massage, any

facials. i know that this was something that was brought up. one of the perhaps meetings with the commission with dr. argon. those are the key things i want to highlight for tonight. there aren't any significant pieces of legislation that were introduced last week at the board of supervisors. i will provide you with some written updates. the legislation that you heard around the entertainment permit and restaurant permit, last week, has minor amendment but it's to codify some of the business licensing and tax payment dates and deadlines. with that, i'm happy to take any

questions. >> president laguana: do you have any questions for the director? no questions. i think those are some things we want to keep an eye on, the whole personal service issue remains a vexing problem. i think now with dr. argon at the state and with no current public health officer, it's unclear when we'll get a replacement public health officer. i seen some supervisors saying they plan to have a replacement public health officer. we need to find some way to advocate for small business with

the current structure. it's like everything else, there's a whole lot of moving parts. it's very difficult to figure out what the right path to take is. i appreciate you bringing that up. >> you're welcome. perhaps, adding on to that, commissioner laguana, as the commissioner may want to give some consideration for future resolution, i just thought of this. looking to our mayor and board of supervisors, one of the key components that dr. argon was advocating for was really using risk-based management tools. i don't think that's really been fully developed at the state level or local level. i think there's still room and

time for those things to be worked on and implemented. i think that will also be critical and also conveying to the consumer as we start to -- after the immunization reaches a critical level to build back customer confidence, it's a more escalated recovery as opposed to a slower recovery in terms of customers returning to businesses. >> president laguana: i thought a lot about those comments you made about risk-based models i'm hoping we'll start to see that get rolled out and that will result in a more surgical response to shutdowns which at

the moment, seem not a surgical as it could be in enabling folks to stay open while still being very careful about public health. this seems like it needs to be worked on american an -- and ada more careful approach. thank you again for this comment. >> commissioner huie: thank you very much. as i'm thinking about it, i feel like right now, we have an opportunity to kind of reimagine what this next phase is going to look like. i don't know if it's the new year approaching or the place we are in terms of having some

understanding of the virus, of the environment. i feel like we're at a midway point. it make sense senior us to kind of maybe recognize how much we've kind of put together in this time frame. from march to now, we've helped and seen sectors organize. we've seen leaders rise up. we've seen all these different things happening. people gathering numbers and gathering information about their sector and about their business. we have now kind of this big vault of information that i think we have it kind of disorganized in a way. i think we could take this opportunity to do something more

with it and reimagine what i think an ideal kind of reopening might be. what happened is that, i think certain businesses and sectors get kind of left behind when something else marchs forward. i feel like it's a constant struggle and maybe it doesn't have to be that way. i don't know if that's just dreaming and wishing. i feel like that's kind of needed to pull yourself out from the weeds and see what can be a better plan and for us to be able to propose that given the information that we know. are we also -- part of what we do is advocacy. having the data, having the information and i think -- i feel like now we have a lot more

than we started with in terms of we know just the information we have about the entertainment venues, the information we have about nail salons. we understand a lot more about our business community than we did. i think it's kind of a good time to recognize what are the things that we do know now and what are the risk that we should be evaluating and how do we advocate for something that's less surgical as you described and advocating for a reopening of our economy that really keeps people safe but may be puts more responsibility on what we do with our personal time or how we spend our personal days. i don't know exactly what the solution is. i wonder with all of this

information that we gather, i don't want to see us minimize how much we know today versus how much we knew in the very beginning of this and to be able to look like at the big picture and see what we might be able to actually change. i do believe that we should continue with resolutions and try to help with things like on a line item kind of basis. i think that we as a body or as a group, have the ability to see the big picture that maybe other -- before coming on this commission and just being an advocate in my neighborhood. i didn't see the big picture than now being on this commission. i have a better sense. i hope that we can collectively

think about what the future of san francisco recovering from this pandemic could look like in maybe water strokes. >> president laguana: thank you, i appreciate that comment. we should -- there's always the ground level work that needs to happen and sometimes it can be something that doesn't seem that big to us but it's big to the businesses like paper bag fees or whether it's plastic utensils or disposable utensils. then the legislation and the resolutions and then there's high level stuff like the federal part and there's a global approach which is what

you're advocating for. i think that's an important part of it too. the challenges always how -- we're just an advisory body. we don't have any actual teeth. whatever we say, it's only as good as the advice that we're giving and it's good of credibility that we have with the listener. big part of our work is to bill that credibility and build that trust that we're going to give good advice. second part of it is is to give good advice. i'm always hoping if so many of our ideas and initiatives have come from different commissioners. the floor is yours, commissioner

huie. i'm happy to be a partner on anything that you come up with. >> commissioner huie: i'll work on that. [laughter] >> president laguana: okay. we'll move on to the next -- we got to do public comment. commissioner yekutiel. >> commissioner yekutiel: we're moving on from new business? >> president laguana: not yet. we have to do public comment on director's report. are you out? >> commissioner yekutiel: i have no comment on the director's report.

>> commissioner dooley: i have something for new business also. >> president laguana: i'm calling on you guys, you're lining up for the next item. i apologize. is there any public comment on the director's report? >> clerk: there's no public comment. >> president laguana: , next item please. >> clerk: item 9, commissioner discussion and new business discussion item. >> president laguana: commission er yekutiel, you were first. >> commissioner yekutiel: okay, technically, commissioner dooley and i voted at the same minute. >> president laguana: would you like to defer commissioner dooley? >> commissioner dooley: i'm bringing up something that i'm thinking of inform -- in term of our recovery.

we will still be in semiemergency for a long time. some of may know, i visited this tiny island of kawhi, they put together a small business website that allowed people to order online whether it was because they were closed, which was still true. most of businesses are closed there or from people are other places, visiting. they had visited that spot before and wanted to do some shopping. [indiscernible] i was thinking whether we can put something together neighborhood small tiny businesses can participate in a way having a portal a that says shop san francisco. it brings attention to very

small businesses but that have really unique and exciting things to offer. i ordered baked goods from folks in kawhi. it seems like our city and county could do something like that for our small vendors. that is something i would really be interested in looking into. >> president laguana: i love this idea. you can send a link website to the director so that we can share it with the commissioners?

>> commissioner yekutiel: i have a couple of items that i want to present for new business. the first about the legacy business program and whether or not if it has not already been done. if there is a password we can use to ask for special infusion of funds to our legacy business recipient understanding that for a lot of these legacy businesses, they're more cash strapped than some newly capitalized businesses. it's hard out there. it's not necessarily -- we don't have to make it an agenda item but maybe point of exploration for the director or the commission president and vice president. whether or not there are ways we can check in with the legacy businesses to see which one on the verge of closure or extra funds we can use in the legacy business.

that's just putting it out there. it just came up in the beginning. the second thing -- >> president laguana: let me interrupt for a second. just an idea on that. i know that many of our legacy businesses, some of them are groceries, i believe. i seem to recall. perhaps i'm wrong. there may be a few other legacy businesses. i'm just make the observation that not all small businesses are doing poorly in the pandemic. some are actually doing really well. the idea would simply be if you are doing well, would you be willing to defer on any glants or aid so that can be redirected to folks who are not doing well. >> commissioner yekutiel: at the least, commissioner, laguana, if there's some kind of list serve

of the legacy businesses or richard compile them all in an e-mail and send out a brief survey or understanding of the health of them. this body and the businesses themselves go through stuff so much to become a legacy business. these are like our babies. we need to see how they are doing. if richard hasn't already done that. grocery stores are doing fine, that's good to know. maybmay be we can think about ws to do special advocacy for those legacy businesses. >> president laguana: commission er huie is up after you. hopefully we can get an update on the survey. we could perhaps lean little bit harder on the legacy businesses

and find some way to segregate that data perhaps, i don't know, if it will be possible how we're doing this. that might be a way to get to the health of our legacy businesses through the survey. >> commissioner yekutiel: that's something that's happening with -- if the survey sent out to legacy businesses, great. if we have the e-mail of all the legacy business owners, if we have all their e-mails, perhaps it's a quick check-in. i don't know. this is not a specific recommendation. >> rick has been staying very close in touch would at the legacy businesses. we do want to know as soon as possible if there's going to be some anticipated issue. that said, we can take a look at

the different sectors and taking a look at the businesses and speak to you individually about some ideas along with the president potentially vice president. they are important businesses for us to retain. >> commissioner yekutiel: if may be we're trying to help as many small businesses as we can. if it's hard for us to find pots of money for particular industry, maybe it won't be hard

to find pot of money to save legacy businesses. there are 40 legacy businesses on the verge of permanent closure, we can use that extra special emergency use authorization supplemental funds in the slush to fund these businesses. it's my thinking. that's the legacy businessing. second thing is, vaccinations are coming. might be small businesses have a vested interest in the distribution of this vaccine. there's a lot of questions what is a front line worker and what is an essential worker. it might not be a bad idea for this body to find out what the person is locally making the decision.

second piece is there's an interim public health director and potentially -- we all know, i think it's no mystery. there are lot of small businesses who feel very aggrieved right now by the seeming lack of, science and facts that have come as backup to the recent health order. i actually don't think that small businesses have a lot of problems doing what needs to be done to protect people's lives. restaurant, bars and retail, folks are frustrated but they understood because decisions were then immediately backed up by data, science and facts. what we heard loud and clear with the outdoor dining, recent data come out that about less than 2% of new covid cases have

been contact traced back to dining we have questions. i don't think it's outlandish to get the answers. what studies were done that showed outdoor dining was the right call to make based on the data, science and facts. i did submit a number of public records request as it relates to the healthcare security ordinance after the last small business commission meeting about trying to understand what these funds are going and have gone and where they are sitting. i'm awaiting the responses to the public records request and have communicated to the office of the supervisor that i've been in touch with about this. i will update the commission once i hear back. thank you.

>> president laguana: point of clarification, has dr. philip been named interim health director? i missed that? >> commissioner yekutiel: i think there's some things that gets triggered. if the sitting public health director leaves the second in command automatically becomes interim until the permanent public health director gets chosen. she is the interim just by nature of thomas being done. >> president laguana: there's no deputy health director. if there was a deputy health director, that would be true. you may have better information than mine. my understanding and perhaps our director can share any knowledge she may have about this. my understanding is we did not have a deputy health director. as a result, the director of

b.p.h. becomes the only health -- becomes the acting health director. i'm a little unclear what the actual title is. i don't think there's an interim. last i heard. >> vice president zouzounis: i'l l find out specifically. there was the determination by the city attorney early on in terms of there was a question in terms of the role of dr. colfax and then dr. argon as the health officer. this determination stated that dr. argon was made the health officer is the head of the department of public health who is generally a medical doctor. at the time that dr. argon was

appointed as the health service, the head of the department of medical health was not a health doctor. now we have a medical doctor, i don't want to speak to what the next steps are. i will find out for you. >> president laguana: i know we're not allowed to lobby the state government. the state public health director is our former city public health director. the city will not go against what the state of california is doing. unfortunately, whatever it is, our state public health director is now empowered to might these decisions for the entire state.

what i'm trying to funnel here is, i'm getting a lot of inbound. lot of frustration. lot of questions from my industry and they do not know what to do with their feelings. as a representative of small businesses, to our city government, i feel a little bit ham strung. i do not know where they should focus their attention. we don't have a public health director and we don't know what the next one will be. once there's clarity on who's making a decision on the future of the industries. i would really love to bring them in this body to ask them important questions. >> president laguana: it is challenging. this is a state level position. there's that inability to take

action at a state level. perhaps we can think about this offline. there's nothing that i know of, that prohibits us as individuals from speaking with dr. argon, whom we previously developed a relationship with. perhaps, if we have specific questions or or you can speak with the other coalition partners in the small business community and think about what we might want to specifically request or lobby for or -- there's other ways we can

assist. it doesn't necessarily have to be within the context of the commission. that's the challenge as far as the commission in terms of interacting with statewide authorities. it's unfortunately outside airline scope. hue >> commissioner huie: i wanted to address the legacy business question. starting with that. i believe i had a conversation with rick at some point where we felt where we had talked about perhaps, him finding out more information or being able to survey the legacy businesses.

these are businesses that have learned how to really be generational and how to pass a business down from one generation to another. which is crucial to many of our businesses that have done a lot. it's a different mindset. that's something i think could change san francisco community in terms of businesses not just opening up for a moment but really being an institution and what that might look like. i do think that the legacy businesses have a lot to offer in terms of their expertise as well. that will be really nice in addition to the knowledge that we have right now.

the second piece, commission dooley, i love the idea of having a one-stop shop website. i feel like, i personally have been trying to reach out to every small business and spend any money i have at the small business and i think there many residents who will probably feel the same as well as who have a fond place in their heart for san francisco. i saw an e-mail go by this morning where somebody had asked about something like this. i think lot of partners that we can probably talk to and you'd be happy to lend my support towards your idea. i think it's a great idea. lastly, one thing i keep talking about is a survey. the survey, i believe, will be done in all languages by

wednesday. that's been my last update from the professor. that will be done. my ask of you, for all of as commissioners is to maybe take a look at director's outreach document, if there's any way to help fill that out a little bit. i think all of you have really very positive and close connections to your supervisors. i think that might also help too. i do think the feedback that i gotten from all of you, has been surveys are tough now. people are getting survey fatigue. it will take a lot of effort on our part for outreach. i'm willing to go around,

commissioner dooley and commissioner ortiz-cartagena has offered and every one of you offered this, walking door to door. it is going to take the personal touch. hopefully the survey will be a nice excuse for us to connect with people within our community. i'm hoping that will be a good part of the holiday season. that's pretty much all i had for my commissioner report. i will probably attend a meeting that different things. i'm happy to support all the stuff you guys are working on. thank you. >> president laguana: question with regards to survey timing.

this is an honest question, i don't have an answer in mind one way or the other. do we think it's wise to do a survey, put are the survey out right before the holidays? would we collectively be better off just wait until after the first of the year? i'm not putting my thumb on the scale on that question. >> commissioner huie: my feeling from the professor and her experience so far, she's advocated for doing it now. we're going to get today's data and we are keeping it open through the month of january. whether it gains traction now or later, we can control that a little bit too if we're seeing that it's not hitting in the

holiday. >> president laguana: i think that make sense. let me make a recommendation based on my limited marketing experience. why don't we do -- an idea might be to release the survey pre-holidays, personal networks and kind of do a soft launch, if you will. then in january, try to do a full-court press, first and second week of january. lot of times, when you're promoting something, people need to hear it, from multiple channels simultaneously. i'm worried if we dribble it out over the holidays, we'll never gain a full head of steam. we should commit to doing a

full-court press. in january when we think we can get everybody's attention. go ahead and release it now. it's just an idea. >> commissioner huie: that feels like general marketing principles. it's like a presale or like vip survey [laughter] i recognize this is a public forum. my vip may not be that special. i do think that this soft launch might be nice during the season. i will be happy to talk about this offline and go over the specific outreach if you want to talk about it after, if that's possible.

>> president laguana: okay. >> yes, that's possible. >> president laguana: okay. great. any other commissioner questions or new business? i'll just go real quick. i've been investing lot of energy in bankruptcy reform, particularly at the state level. unfortunately many of our small businesses are not going to make it. it was about the adjournment notice. >> president laguana: i've not forgotten. by will come back to you. many of our business will not succeed and not survive. many of these business owners

will be facing bankruptcy. currently bankruptcy law only allows $70,000 as a homestead exemption. if you're a small business owner and you own your home, you have a $300,000 in equity, you're only allowed to keep $70,000 of that and file bankruptcy and the rest will go to jury lenders. if you have a car, the trustee will sell your car and give you back $2300. which is not enough money to buy a another car. there's all these different laws and they are unfortunately lender friendly for small business owners. i think they were written in contemplation of a time when most people were filing bankruptcy made mistakes or

perhaps were engaged in fraudulent behavior. that's clearly not the case now. [please stand by]

>> forgive your debtor some portion of your debt so you can stay in business. great. you have got some debt forgiven. that is amazing. you are able to stay in business until you get a 1099 fee from the lender at the end of the year because debt, forgiven debt is taxable. if you have a $1 million loan and you got $500,000 of it forgiven, you could be looking at a -- doing quick math here. $150,000 tax bill that you

weren't expecting. that tax bill is not forgivable or dischargeable in bankruptcy. i just wanted to alert everybody this is a very serious matter. no policymakers that i am aware of are focusing on yet. i don't think the small business community fully understands how serious thi this iceberg is. perhaps an opportunity for the commission to write another memo about this, but i will say that in our federal ask we also made a number of recommendations around bankruptcy reform. there are similar laws that need changed at the federal level. it will be an ongoing "trainwreck" that will drag people out of being small business owners for the rest of

their lives and they will never escape the damage of these 8 months because bankruptcy doesn't allow any escape. it is really awful. that is it. i feel like i have other stuff, but that is enough for one day. it is mys to be done by 7:30 p.m. with that, i guess we will -- is there any public comment on the commissioner new items? new business comments? >> there is no public comment. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> please show the office of small business slide. >> we will end with the reminder the small business commission is the small public forum for economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco it

is the best place to get answers about doing business in san francisco during the local emergency. if you need assistance continue to reach out to the office of small business. item 10 adjournment. >> do you want to make a motion? >> yes. this is commissioner yekutiel. i would like to motion to adjourn tonight's small business commission meeting in honor of the cliff house. a brief word about the cliff house. 157 years old. it was built by senator john buckley and cc butler. purchased by the first jewish mayor in 1883. there was a dynamite explosion in 1887 which destroyed it. there was a christmas fire in

1894 which burned it to the ground. then the mayor rebuilt it in 1896. this business survived the 1906 earthquake. then was burned to the ground in 1907 again. rebuilt and changed ownership a few times, but at long last in 2020 due to the covid-19 crisis it was announced yesterday or sometime this week that it was going to permanently close december 31st. they have laid off 180 employees. obviously, the cliff house is a san francisco institution. i have to believe there is not the last we have seen the cliff house it is too important to the city culture and history. it is possible that the permanent closure announced will be a permanent closure.

it is important to adjourn in honor of the cliff house. >> i second that. >> motion to adjourn the meeting in honor of the cliff house by commissioner yekutiel. seconded by commissioner adams. roll call vote. [roll call] >> motion passes 6-0 with one absent. the meeting is at injure adjourt

7:36 p.m. >> have a great holiday.

>> good morning, everyone. i'm joined by timon walton and rafael manldsleman. our clerk is ms. linda wong. i'd like to thank sfgov tv for broadcasting this meeting. madame clerk, do we have any announcements? >> yes. due to covid-19 health emergency, city employees and the public and the board of supervisor and legislative