through it. nothing ever happens. can you just give me -- give us any suggestions? >> yes, absolutely. thank you very much for raising the question. i do miss the northeast community and my time at the station as a captain which was a very memorable time. and the same district and north beaches for the same district there and vallejo street station. and a couple of things to think about and this is for everyone. and nothing of value and saying nothing at all. and even the cell phone charger and may want to leave in out of convenience. and individuals who get in it cars and get in the trunk as well and nothing is valued. i will communicate with the

captain and making sure there is no footbeat officer but there is a patrol that is 24 hours a day. and does patrol that neighborhood and the whole lower knob hill area. i will talk with him about making sure that the officers are therement and mention on levi plaza, when you talk about glass and cameras and environmental design and what is happening down there and no cameras, what is making it attractive to those that want to break into cars? that definitely is something that the captain and i was the captain of the station and needs to concentrate on to work with the businesses on installing cameras and the city doesn't and register with the district attorney's office and share with

the police department and surviving the lighting issues and secluded and commit robberies in and out of it real quick. and we do our very best and hopefully they won't break the window and sit in and they will break into my cars and everything that we can do to prevent is definitely the business that we're in. i thank you for the question. >> thank you. let me echo and thank you for the question and how sorry i am to hear that is what you are dealing with day in and day out. it is not acceptable as a status quo for this city or or any of the residents. i want to echo d.c. lazar's comments. prevention and deterrence are critical and from the auto burglary cases we prosecute

about 30%, but it is not clear and never will be possible for police to make arrests in auto burglars and they are crimes of opportunity. people commit them when they think they can get away with them. sadly, sometimes they are right. but i also want to be clear about what happens in all the cases and where we do file charges. for better or worse and the constitution of the united states prohibits us from punishing people and being convicted of a crime. and what that means in cases that are nonviolent that are property crimes, for example, and will not mean we don't get them to prosecute and hold people accountable. and violence and weapons are not involved, judges and anywhere in the state of california and are required by law to release people who are presumed innocent. that is not always the case if they are on probation or parole and we have a little more leverage and numerous prior open

cases, we have more leverage and all things being equal, police making an arrest and my office filing charges in the kind of frustrating and unacceptable behavior that you have described will not usually be enough to hold someone in the jail pending trial. we're going to continue to hold them accountable and it takes months or years for the wheels of justice to turn. and jury trials and conduct the normal business and we will do our best to keep the cases moving and once we secure conditions and lawfully impose consequences of incarceration and limits on people's freedom. >> thank you. commissioner huie. >> thank you very much. thank you for coming today. and looking forward to having

this on your agenda. and i know many people that i live around and work with are also very excited to have this opportunity and my questions are really large arenaed broader scale. one is i am curious to what resources you would recommend on comparative data. and i am sure you are very well versed in the crime rate and the different things that are happening in terms of crime trends in other and similar scale or size of san francisco and as well as other cities within the bay area. and curious and point to for small business owners and get a sense of how san francisco as a city. >> i will start by saying that within the last two years we

need -- completely re-engineered our website. and the website is in multiple languages and working on putting the coming months and years and as far as crime statistics and clearance rate and information and from the san francisco police.org and you can find the information that they are looking for and the crime statistics and see them by neighborhood and things like that. definitely everyone stay to pay attention to what is happening in the community and get the statistic and subscribe to the local district and find a lot of information with what is happening in the crime and community engagement wise. and stay up on stage form and it is changing and changes all the time.

>> i definitely check out your crime stuff and noticed the different types of crimes. and curious how san francisco there n your mind would rank against other cities. a lot of what we hear is san francisco is filled with crime right now. we are living within this kind of bubble where i think we, even if you look at the you tube videos and which we don't want to promote in my way and about what people perceive as we start to recover as an economy and as a city. so i am curious to how you view the system as a national city or

maybe how far we are from the ideal version of what san francisco should be. do you feel like we are at an ideal place in terms of our crime? is this a good place to be right now? i just am curious to what the city kind of things because we have done a lot of prevention. i think everybody kind of moves their garage door things and we have reinforced everything in steel and trying to live in castles, but it is just like, i think, i am curious to whether this is going to improve in your life and is this the status quo or is this going to be -- what are my expectations as a resident and as a business owner? >> let me just jump in and say, first of all, absolutely not. the status quo is not acceptable. the police department and the

district attorney's office and many others in city government are working hard day in and day out to improve public safety. that is what we need all day and the apartments do all day every day. and to love if we could organize ourselves out of a job and live in a society the district attorney and police that would be great. it is not realistic and in terms of the expectations and the short term and the fear and anxiety and that people are experiencing is related to public safety issues tied to the pandemic. the crime trends in san francisco are similar to what we have pointed out across the country.

you can compare as the san francisco chronicle tomorrow and other bay area cities to oakland and san jose. that means some good thing. and every homicide is one too many and as you look at data and the lowest number of homicides and san francisco history and that is a huge accomplishment thanks to all the folks day in and day out over the 50 years. and is not a huge surprise empirically off the 56-year low. and especially when every other big city and the fact that the rate went up less than other nearby citys is a good thing.

similarly with the lives of residential and commercial burglaries and increase in 2020 and in terms of a couple thousand with a business owner and suffered economic and emotional harm and increased fear and vulnerability because of what happened to them. and we need to remember as the individual people behind the crimes and look at the big picture data. there was something like 20,000 and overall crime in san francisco and 25% decrease reported crime in san francisco. and moving things in the right direction is uneven.

even though some of the property crime has been replaced with residential burglaries, for example, and increase in violent crime and my priority and the police department's priority isn't going to move in lock step. with record highs for reasons that we can understand. and living with increased fear and anxiety and despite our best efforts and at any point in the last 40 years and the war on drugs has not worked to address that problem, and we haven't stepped up to the medical alternative and treatment on demand and to roll out and have the specific training in dealing with public health crises and

free up police resources to respond more quickly and we have a long way to go to improve. and the picture is rosier than it feels. and there will be a normalization and will be the increase in gun violence and working closely with police every step of the way to stay ahead of the trends and changes to keep you safe. and echoing the comments and we have work to do and the district attorney's office and the police department are in it together. to make sure that we have resources as a police department

we're visible with the budget allows for it and the staffing and having footbeat officers and the bicycle officers out there and being a deterrent and having the presence there. and getting to know the community and building trust with the community and building relationships. and in the year 2020 and to build the relationships with the question and violent crime and the pandemic and in the city and having been a native and born and raised in public school and the police officer for nearly 30 years, no other place i would rather live or work. this is a world class city. overall it's a safe city. and we have to address the crime

of the day is the residential burglary and we have to deal with it and get it reduced. and whatever it is, next month, next year and when the community is engaged and the community call police and they have the cameras and are involved in prevention and coming to the meetings and we're hearing their voice and we're a safer city. that is what we have to do now. >> i really appreciated that and with the sense of what the larger picture would be like. and a lot of anecdotal evidence and the stories of what is happening like what happened to commissioner dooley is not the only person in the whole city who experiences that. and to hear it from merchants

who have gotten broken into repeatedly. it's tough n. our neighborhood, we are trying to work on preventive measures. i totally appreciate that if we can systemically kind of get through this base layer of protection for the merchant communities, that would be a huge help and i am totally supportive of making sure that the small business communities and corridors are safe and that is what we need right now is a sense of community. i do appreciate the perspective that you brought to the committee. and deputy chief lazar. >> from the future and especially in my situation and

being a minority small business and formally incarcerated myself and appreciate that sensitivity and the complexity of trying to communicate and every side and angle and small business and crimes and increase in crime. from the pandemic and i do want to highlight what is going on in my community and immigrant and specifically against businesses and seen the increase and

feelings extortion happen now in the business corridors and. i really love this area and with the documented format. this is a quiet problem and from the commute leaders and having extortion and from san francisco and to play out here. and i would like to briefly address that so thank you for

bringing this issue up and how the business community and the merchants are working with the captain. to me that was a v very serious offense that we not only pay close attention to and bring the cases to the district attorney's office and not to speak for the d.a. and they take those particular events very serious as well. the most important thing is this is a sanctuary city and we, the san francisco police department, do not ask individuals what their immigration status is. frankly, it does not matter to us at all. and we did not report the immigration and don't corporate with ice. and we are safer because of it.

and when people know that they can report crimes and they can come to the police department and speak with officers and not have too much fear of immigration and reporting crimes and to put the case together. and suffering from this and they need to work with us and report it and we need to put good cases together and bring those cases to the district attorney that extortion and dealt with this for many, many years and another part of town and we are able to really reduce around the safety aspect of it and organize around being able to trust the police. i would love to talk more offline to talk about what to do to help solve the problem. >> let me echo and the same

policy and thank you for your dedication to the immigrant community commissioner and it is absolutely essential that every single person living in san francisco regardless of language, regardless of gender and race and regardless of country of origin. and that is from the full protection of the rule of law. and we don't care where you were born or how you got here to san francisco and you are a victim of crime, we have your back. if you are a witness to crime, we want you to feel safe, to come forward and report and cooperate and do justice and if our victim or witness of the crime and legal status in the country and if you come forward and we have your information and know we need that visa. we want to encourage people to come forward and cooperate and help relocation if it is a serious crime in serious danger.

moving expenses and we have robust victim services in the most serious cases. we are absolutely 100% dedicated to equal application of the law and regardless of citizenship or legal status in the country. >> great, thank you. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena, are you done? >> yes, thank you. thank you, both, gentlemen. >> thank you, commissioner. >> so first up, again, i can't thank both of you enough to carve out time to speak with us today. and i think what precipitated bringing this to the commission and as an agenda item, certainly in the wake of the pandemic and i think we have heard anecdotally and there is some evidence to indicate an increase in burglarly rates and smashed windows among small businesses and there is an article in the chronicle about a significant

uptick in the richmond, i think it was, and certainly that dovetails correlates to things we hear anecdotally from the small business community. so much like commissioner huie, in preparation for the meeting, i tried to get as good an understanding of the lay of the land as i could with the caveat that i am a layman and certainly don't have either and experienced and something that came up for me and that you eluded to in the remarks. and how confident are we in the stats that we currently have? and so by means of explanation is commissioner dooley relaid and we all know and residents of san francisco, there is a degree

of of a lack of confidence that a crime and the perpetrator will be caught from the property crimes and a lot of folks that don't choose to take the time to file the report. and do we have a sense of how large that data set would be? and is there any effort on the part of this or either of the departments to get a sense of what we're not seeing? i will start and say that the police department has really user friendly gnashboards and both reporting crime and i think they are really useful and historic numbers to compare anymore than my office can and talk about the in house data

problems in a minute. and recreate and accurately estimate the crimes reported. and crimes that occur that don't get reported and lots of reasons. some are property crime and tourists and to not speak the language and other times maybe because people don't like cooperating with police and distrust and past negative experiences, whatever it may be, people for the same reasons don't want to come to court to testify and sometimes doesn't happen and to understand the resources from city hall to promote public safety. and when we look at historic

comparisons of crime of reported crime, we can see changes. but unless we believe that one of the changes is fewer people reporting crime and that is still looking at data and to compare the same crimes and is the that is from the data is a

useful set of data. and in terms of my office, we don't have the level of confidence in our data that i wish we did. there are a couple of reasons for that. one of them is that we rely very heavily on the courts and on other justice partners for data. we have a criminal court case management system that is many decades old. i am not kidding you when i tell you it is a mainframe computer system with a dos-based that my staff don't have full queries to run searches on and we have to generate to the private vendor to generate data sets. it is tremendously antiquated,

out of date, and ined a quad to the needs of a modern system and as does the sheriff. to give you an example, my lawyers file a motion, that motion has to be filed and served on a court in quintuplicate and five copies hand delivered to the court, stamped and hand delivered to the other parties that have to get a copy, the defense lawyer, sometimes the police department. that is what we are working to

modernize the interface, but until we do that and until the system called justice, justis, comes into effect and until the court allows us to file the paper work electronically, we will have data problems. we just are. it is a frustration of all of ours. >> if i may, a quick question there. the budget or allocation would come from where? the city, state, or county? >> i don't want to give information i am not certain is accurate, so i don't know what portion of the funding comes from the city and what portion comes from the state. i don't know if if d.c. lazar and a large portionover it is local funding. and some portion of that may be through either federal or state grants and superior court is technically a state rather than the local function. sand the case management system

and the limiting factor of the data inquiries. and one thought that occurred while thinking about the stats and what is missing and i agree with you and ordinary university to expect the data sets and the reasons for not reporting that and where that might change is where the sample sets themselves are changing. so if we think about criminals pivoting and the business models and previously targeting tourists that have a high proclivity to file police reports and start migrating to residents and businesses who are less likely to file reports and we may actually see a change in the distribution or the ratio of the reports to unfiled reports. and there is -- i agree with you

it is a difficult number to get out. and i will say in my business rerun into the problems, too. and when we're trying to assess how customers, how happy they are and how well satisfied they were. and listening in and thinking about a very simple and almost like a net promoter score for residents and businesses and like a simple 1 to 10 and how safe do you feel they are and try and capture worried we might be missing. d.c. lazar, i have a similar question for you. and comparatively to other cities and it seemed like the closure rates were not as high as other cities and i can

imagine there is probably a lot of potential different reasons for this and is a lot closer to do and expand on why that might be and why if there is something wrong with the data in terms of how we are assessing or analyzing that. thank you, commissioner, for the question. and something that you said, commissioner s we hit the nail on the head. we can talk specifics all day long and the d.a.'s office and police department work very hard to get it right as far as the statistics. we do have a portion of the population that doesn't report crime and not to be a broken record on today's call, but we definitely need everyone to report crime. we do have language access. we talked about immigration. we want individuals and it doesn't matter where they are from and not an issue for the

police department and the most accurate picture possible and budgeting and goes toward staffing, deployment and strategic plans around crime and addressing crime and all this is really important for reporting. and numbers aside, you can say that the average person, well, there's been a decrease in robberies and decrease in auto burglaries and if you have been a victim of one, you don't care what the numbers say and the perception of crime and if you have a fear of crime and walking around in your neighborhood in the day or nighttime and it means we have more work to do to make sure that we are doing our job to make the community safe and to make communities feel safe. and that's good and no community engagement events and not in

person and having different community events where we are organized or we are programming and looking forward to the pandemic and getting more engaged with the community. and the question around the case clearance rates and statistics has been a topic in our department for some time as we work on that particular issue. and we did find one little glitch in our system to make corrections to with the recording that may affect our clearance rates and we are fixing that to make sure that we're accurately reflecting that number and that being said, clearance rates are really important for the public and those that are watching. what that essentially means is that how many cases we get x amount of robbery reports in a month. and out of those robbery reports, we assign a certain percentage. and how many of those get solved or clears or closed?

or basically cases presented to the district attorney's office. and that is what's meant by a clearance rate. the same uniform rate we give to -- the same that we report out to nation and every city reports out on the clearance rates and the uniformed crime reporting and right now our numbers are what they are. and i will say this. investigators are working very hard to solve crime and work on crime. they do a great job of making cases all the time. i have no -- and a chance for me to go on about how great our folks are, but they are great and do great work and they do solve cases and are innovative. when you have a large number of reported instances as the district attorney has mentioned, we can't arrest everyone, but we certainly do try to make and clear every single case. i look forward to the numbers.

i look forward to numbers going up in 2021 based on the work we are doing now in the department. >> i appreciate that and thank you. quick question. and when i was reviewing the literature on deterrence theory and total layman and just out here trying to do my best and make sense of stuff. and one of the things that came up is fairly robust evidence that crime response to police presence and policeman power and given the spate of break-ins and smashed windows in the sunset and richmond. can you talk about reallocating the resources? and address the issues and try and get in front of them. and i will have a follow-up.

and studies have shown randomized control and doesn't prevent crime and it is not necessarily a deterrent and goes to the bigger conversation we have been having about reporting crime and being strategic to where it is happening and when and who is involved and what is the method of operation and then we develop a plan around that. and for example, if there is a corridor that is broken into. and we have officers specifically in that area looking to detect crime or prevent it or address the burglaries that are taking place. if it's prolific and if we can narrow it down even more and may have undercover surveillance and break in the business and when we are present and make that arrest and doing that and successful with it with the garage burglaries to know of an

individual with the bicycles and selling them to the south bay and linked them and watched as he broke into a garage and took him into custody. and so we have to be smart and based on the limited amount of resources that we have. we don't have a police officer on every corner and we don't have an unlimited amount of the city and partner and strategic and communicate with the community. and reports come in and community and speaks with the station and opens up the line of communication and address the issues and the conversations internally all day long. and where and who is involved

and with the search warrant and arrest warrant. and 24 hours a day and seven days a week and involved in bringing the crime rate down and serial crime. and the night before last and is a string of windows broken into that was around 9th and irving street at some point and close to a dozen businesses and windows smashed and out of curiosity, and for the benefit of small business community, if somebody was able to catch somebody for this, this is more or less a pure vandalism of crime, and how would you charge that with, i guess, typically charge that and two, how would you charge that if it was like a

repeat offender and that you encountered multiple times before and recognize nooizing the constraints that you outlined earlier that you can't just put them in jail until there is adjudication on the case. >> it really depends on the detail. 9th and irving is in district five, and that means those businesses are eligible for the pilot reimbursement program, and i would encourage the owners on the district five side of the border instead of the district four, and i think it's right around there, to reach out to the victim services team and let them help you carve the cost of replacement win dose and when it comes to offender accountability, it is a critical part of what we do as well. assuming the police have done what they do best and brought us an investigation and believe that is provable and we know the identity of the person who did

it and prove what they did and establish they did it for malicious intent. those are the elements to prove the vandalism charge and under $950 and generally be a misdemeanor. if the damage is often the case with the business windows and a lot more than $950 and one of the important things and we want the defendant or offender who caused the harm to be legally liable. we know a lot of them won't be able to do it and may be indigent and judgment proof, but we are still going to get that order as part of a conviction in every case and get an order called the cr110 and the business and victim in the case is entitled legally to collect that money from this offender and if at any point down the

line with the money to pay and is a civil judgment and survives life of probation in the case. when i took office and inherited about 500 to the open cases and 20% of them and pretrial and the time it takes to a case like you are describing through the justice system before covid and far longer than anybody should accept or tolerate. and the median life of a case in superior court before i took office is over a year and of course with covid is a lot slower and longer. but to be realistic about how soon we're going to see the kind of accountability and i think this goes back to the first point about d.c. lazar about the criminalologist research that

shows a visible, active, engaged community police presence and is the best deterrent scene and them to prison for a long time. and it will for some time. let's agree and all of you and hopefully every single person comes in and not to commit a crime and if we were and couldn't do it and thought we were going to get caught. and behaving rationally and believe that police will arrest you. it doesn't matter what happens next. and if you are behaving rationally. i am all for having following the lead of the police department in terms of how to most effectively use the limited resources to have a visible presence in our merchant corridors, in the high crime neighborhoods and move as fast

as we can and the felony vandalism and is up to three years in county jail. if you have serious prior convictions and a spate of other similar conduct recently. and the maximum punishment and the first offense and much more likely to ask for probation and slg much more extreme allowable by law. in every single case my commit suspect to understand the root cause and bas driving that kind of antidestructive social video. and let's face it. and comes to the challenges and that they face and if someone is

back on the streets a year later and we have problems again to make sure the time they are in jail or pretrial release is being used and root causes and something else in the life trauma and focus on that issue and hold them accountable in ways and all save money and be safer. and it's a question and the public at large and there is a sense of concern about high repeat offenders and i think there is two things we are struggling with and one is this sense and doing it over and over again. and walk into jail and come out

and come out the same day or a couple of days later. and two, the resources that i have been viewing and the rational actors and a lot less tools and repeat offenders and outside of incarceration. and get the other part of this and that came up for me and the research is that immediacy maters and punishment happens a year or a year and half, two

years later and connected from the crime itself and accordingly t it doesn't enter into the mind of the offender and to be present. and i am wondering nonincarcerating options and opposed to waiting a year or two or three for communication. and the research is spot on. and one of the challenges is if you wait as you said years before the punishment and incarceration and otherwise and is so attenuated from the conduct who can feel arbitrary. and really defeat the deterrent's purpose that we need it to serve. and we need more tools and we are not simply relicing on incarceration.

we have a lot of tools and use them every day. and let me give you a few examples. and let that destructive property damage. and in the ninth and erving corridor and bookstores in the city and are if someone gets arrested for that and we can file charges and the police and to get the file charged. and at the first court date, we would can for and almost receive from the court a stay away order and an orreder that prohibits from coming within 150 yards usually and of the area where the crime occurred. and back on the street and sees them there and can be arrested on site and gives police an extra enforcement tool and

merchants and see someone who is a known problem and if and when we have a sense of what is driving behavior and we know the person has a history of drug abuse and their crimes are committed when they are using substances and we have a specialty collaborative court that's existed for years in san francisco. i wish i could take great for it, but drug court and we send lower level cases and generally felonies and lower level felonies, not murders, where we believe that the criminal conduct is motivated by criminal substance use and we recognize that if we can get the person to change the relationship to illegal substances, then they

will stop committing the crimes. we created incentives for them to engage in rigorous case management and a wide array of courts and a veterans justice court for veterans who struggle with post traumatic stress disorder and one called behavioral health court and young adult court for our youth that are often quicker to act than think when it comes to committing crimes. and every one of the courts puts clinicians in the driver's seat and use the leverage on the charges we file based on police investigation to incentivize people to engage with the kind of treatment and services and behavioral changes before we secure the conviction. that make us feel comfortable reducing the charges and agreeing to not ask you to go to jail at the end of the case and use a carrot and stick approach and provide incentives and have

the hammer of the criminal charges hanging over their head and the experts in the driver's seat and with the clinical or mental health background. and that is an example of what we can do in these cases before the conviction is secured. >> appreciate that. thank you. and i know d.c. lazar has to go here soon. a quick sort of closing thought. and i am hearing from small businesses more than i ever have that are experiencing crime or dealing with the impacts of crime. and we all need the spirit of cooperation and discussion and offering the commission. i know we are all committed to being partners in that discussion. we love to continue to be partners with you because certainly this community has been so hard hit from the pandemic and folks have really

lost so much. and then to experience crime on top of that is incredibly tough and damaging. and we have to link arms and work hard to make real material improvement there. and some of this criminals and different audiences and the unlucky recipients of that. and nonetheless, we have to find a way to seek improvement and the other thing i will note for policy makers and to make sure that people have jobs. small businesses employ half of the people did at least prior to pandemic and getting the small businesses back on the feet and back to employ people as quickly as possible and another way to have a material impact and i know dr.c. lazar has to go and

you can stick around and will there probably be public comment. and afterwards and to offer any closing thoughts. this is an honor today to talk to you and the small public business commission and the public grateful to -- the partnership. and my heart goes out to the small business community and live in san francisco and spent and spent a lot of money and resources on small business. and patronizing a lot of businesses in the community. and all over the city and small business and i chair on behalf

of the department on ways to become safer and work together. and i think to summarize today's conversation is that we're headed in the right direction. we do have a lot of work to do. and i cannot emphasize enough the importance of the police department and the d.a.'s office to promote and not my issue and not my problem and no news is good news. and the vibrancy and the pandemic and us working together is to get involved and stay informed and connect with the captain and the officers and we will continue to work as hard as we can with crime in the city. thank you. and i leave it up to you with no

obligation. >> and i also have a bunch of other calls and meetings and not stick around for all of public comment, i am afraid. and this was in the calendar for half an hour and glad we were able to make it more like an hour and a half because these are critical issues and we can't have the city we are all proud and don't have the job creation and fun places to go and spend the money and that is what small businesses do for us. and we do that and more. and this is tremendously difficult year and we are not over it and that is a few months of hardship to go. and the small business community helps the most. and triple whammy and shut down again with the public health

dynamic and to have crime and vandalism that affects your business on top of it is too much. and we are absolutely to do everything we can and we want to hear from you and report crimes and help us expand the victim reimbursement programs and solve crimes to change behavior and hold people accountable and so you can continue to thrive and make this city as great as possible. thank you, all, so much for your work. >> great. >> and unless there is any other commissioner comment. >> is there any public commenters on the line? >> is anyone on the line for public comment? >> five people online and i will unmute the first one. >> thank you. >> go ahead, caller.

>> actually, i am here for item four. >> no problem. please call back. next caller please. >> hello. >> thank you so much for having this meeting. i really appreciate it and i have owned a store since 1989 and one of our greatest concerns and is definitely impacted by restaurants being closed. and crimes and stay at home orders and immediate sites and crimes in addition to the streets being dark and empty. and the recycling resources that restaurants offer to be unhomed are gone. and another concern is prosecution of crime. i firmly believe that city crime

does not result and results in prosecution. and i understand that reported crime and we see a delayed or no response at all. and with the positive results and crime. and long felt that crime should result in community service with time equalling the value. and from theft and destruction of property to not allow to be unchecked. i appreciate comments about punishment needing to happen in a timely manner. that goes both for the submiters of the crime and also the community to see that anything is happening.

and one of the main problems that is being happening. and the variety of ecosystems that are out of balance in the city with so many businesses being closed. restaurants sensibly reopened immediately. the longer they remain closed, and the closure impacts the communities the longer bars and restaurants are closed and the more retail accomplishments will be impacted and people earn more and more to online services. and soon the retail corridor will be conflicting -- thank you for taking my comment. >> thank you. next commenter, please. >> next commenter, please.

>> this is sunshine powers and i own love on hate as well as i am i am vice president of the ashbury association and i would like to really say thank you for the safe sleeping site and that helped out a lot during the pandemic and i had a heavy issue outside of my shop. and they have helped out and what we are dealing with now and a new fresh round of homeless youth that i haven't seen before. and i am wondering to encourage people to do something to get these new homeless youth into the safe sleeping sites and i am going to reopen the next few days. and the condition of the street just really