>> the san francisco board of appeals daryl honda is joined by vice president eduardo

santacana, commissioner and also present is brad russy who will provide legal add voice this evening. at the controls is the board's legal clerk and i'm julie rosenberg the board's executive director. we will also be joined by representatives from the city departments that will be presenting before the board this evening. scott sanchez, with the planning department and joseph duffy, acting deputy director for the san francisco department building inspection. the board meeting guidelineses are as follows, turn off and silence all crowns and electronic devices so they will not disturb the proceedings. appellants, permit holders and department respondents are given seven minutes to present and throw minutes for rebuttal. people must include their comments within the seven or three minute periods. members of the public who are not affiliated with the parties have up to tee implants each to address the board and no rebuttal.

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this is an opportunity for. >> we'll just -- we have one housekeeping item. and this is item number 4. which is appeal number 20-087. subject property 482 16th avenue. the parties have requested this matter be continued to march 3rd, 2021. >> i'll make that motion. >> ok. is there any public comment on the motion to continue this item? >> ms. mark soul. the report owner. i didn't realize that you met every week so we would like to have this done next week if we can. >> we don't meet every week. and since you agreed to march third, that's the date we have to go with at this point.

on that motion vice president santacana [roll call vote] >> so that months carries 5-0 and this matter is continued to march 3rd. we have move on to general public comment. this is an opportunity for anyone who would like to speak on a matter that is not on tonight's calender. is there anyone here for general public comment? if so, please raise your hand. i do not see any hands raised so we'll move on to item number 2, commissioner comments and questions. >> i would like to start off and send my condolences to the shultz family to charlotte and their whole family on the passing of george shultz. i mean, what a guy.

he was actually secretary of state, secretary of treasure, i believe the secretary of labor. my sincere condolences go out to the shultz family. also, i wish everyone a happy chinese new year. happy lunar new year. >> thank you, any other commissioner comments or questions. is there any public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand. there's no public comment, we will move on to item number 3, adoption of the minutes. before you have discussion of the minutes january 27th, 2021 meeting. >> without any changes or additionors modifications, does anyone make a motion to accept those minutes? >> i make a motion to accept those minutes. >> ok. is there any public comment on the notion adopt the minutes? so we have no public comment.

we have a motion from commissioner swig to adopted the january 27th minutes. an that motion -- [roll call vote] >> thank you, those minutes are adopted 5-0. so, we are now moving on to item number 5. and this is appeal number 20-o 086thierry castro versus the department of building inspection planning department approval. subject property is 819 hampshire street. replacement of old windows and street facings front existing and proposed aluminum windows. this is permit 202012030127 and we'll hear from the appellant

first. >> thank you. good evening, mr. president and mr. vice president, members of the board. my name is michael and i'm an attorney with the tenderloin housing clinic. speaking on behalf of mr. thierry castro and his family and his two children who live with him at the property. unfortunately here tonight with what i imagine for most of us is a bay of deja vu, actually. i believe four out of five of the sitting commissioners here tonight were here the last time my client was forced to deal with the issuance of a building permit. and unfortunately, a lot of those issues are still happening and unfortunately there's been multiple new issues. just as before, my client, along with his children, are the sole tenants remaining in the building. just as before, my client has been doing his best to try and live there while being subjected to numerous, unprofessional and

unsafe construction practices. just as before, he has tried to worrying those issues out of trying to get it resolved by working or attempting to work with the building manager and as well as making complaints to d.d.m. unfortunately, also just as before as the risk of sounding like a tape recorder, in order to ensure he is able to safely continue living in his affordable housing, something more needs to happen. and so we're hear tonight, ladies and gentlemen, of the board, to seek modifications to this building permit to ensure that the construction is done safely and without unnecessary harassment and disruption to my client. in the interest of time, i won't spend too much time going over what happened the last time we were here, there were a huge

number of issues and when it was said and done and the board issued an order that we have attached and exhibit d and where the board ordered removal of a client permit where it was listed last time and that the days and hours of construction, the limited to monday through saturday and 7:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and that the there's a 48 hour notice. the last time we were here, the owner provided a letter stating other items that they would follow as a property. and unfortunately that hasn't happened. as we stepped in our brief specifically on page five lines 5-19, there have been multiple issues about working on sundays with monday and saturday working past those work hours at 9:00 or 10:30 at night.

failing to secure the property at end of the day and leaving heels of construction debris and even having excessive noise construction such a allowing alarms from days on end. my client recognizes that renovation work has to be done and in this instance the schedule placement of old street-facing windows it might not need to be done but rather, given the on going issues of safety and hazards created by unprofessional business practices, we're here asking for conditions on that permit and before i get too much further into the specific conditions we're looking for, and the interest of making sure that the board gets to hear from my client, i'd like to invite my client to come up and speak for a few minutes so you can hear his own direct personal experiences with what has been going on. >> we do have -- can you freeze

the time, please? >> commissioner swig, your hand is raised. did you want to ask a question at this point or do you want them to finish? >> please, have him finish. >> please go ahead mr. castro. >> hello, everyone. thank you for seeing us again. we have to come before you and ask for your help. i live at 821 with my two children and i've been here for 16 years and this project here at hampshire street has been under a lot of and recently i believed they changed the general manager of the construction and it's a different general manager now and definitely better and more professional than the previous one. still, there are many issues just like michael has outlined

and many issues persist. especially having to do with security and noise and the work hours and those kinds of things. for example, the new general contractor turned off water to our electricity and they've at least given me a half an hour heads-up where the previous one would give me none whatsoever. it's better but it's not good enough but it's definitely better. so, as michael has clearly outlined in all the documents, we're requesting your help to have things like, they want to put scaffolding back up. last time they put it up for over a year, didn't do any work on it and it was a huge security risk. we would like to know, if they want to put one up again, show us a schedule and tell us what it will go up what's day, what work will be accomplished and what day will they come down when that work is completed.

very, very simple. very straight forward sort of project management and request that we're making. i hope that helps. >> that's a really good segway into the actual specific questions. we have as a board today. for modifying this permit. first, as mr. castro has already indicated, we would very much like a schedule for what that work would be. it's my understanding from a document that mr. allen ease and he said the scaffolding should be put up for less than a month. it's great news. that's fantastic and my client is very happy to hear that. and pursuant to that we would like to have an actual schedule provided that shows that so that if that timeline is not kept, my client has something that he

has. given the last time constraint i'll leave the rest of the issues we have listed in our papers what we're requesting. these are outlined on page 8. i'm happy to answer any questions that the board may have. thank you. >> thank you. we do have a question from commissioner swig. >> so, i was one of the commissioners who was involved during the last hearing. and i remember the case very clearly. i want to ask you, councilor, first of all, i want to be clear because past president honda but this was president lazarus digression is something that frustrated her justifiably and i want to digress why we're here, yes or no the permit. when we do what we are going to

do with this permit, there have been raised issues of accountability in your presentation from the last permit. when there are issues which were in breach of our findings and direction, last time, how did you seek some help for accountability of the permit holder legally? or did you -- was your client just frustrated and let it happen? >> so, that's a good question. we tried to address the issue with a number of different ways. i know my client, on numerous occasions he communicated directly with the property managers that he was notify were working at the building. some of the turnover that my client mentioned included different property managers so there's two or three separate

individuals. on my end, because as mentioned in our papers we are actively litigating this eviction, i actually have brought up some of the issues directly to the managing member of hampshire flats llc during depositions where i actually specific put this order in front of him and asked, you know, is it your understand tag work is going on beyond these hours and why. and unfortunately, the issue has still been going on. so, we primarily tried to rely on my clients speaking to the agents of the owner directly because at the end of the day, i think all parties here today can recognize that sometimes attorneys like myself come in with a little bit of heat and make conversations not be the most productive. we've tried both. unfortunately, our appeal here today is the conclusion of those efforts not bearing the fruit that we would like. >> i want to ask the attorney

something, please. >> so as you know, as the commissioners know, nothing makes us more upset than when we attach some conditions to the approval of a permit and those conditions, are heated. who has the jurisdiction of what is the accountability for items which are dagged on as a condition of approval, please. >> good evening, commissioners. city attorney's office. the conditions that are placed on the permit by the board would be enforceable to the extent they are enforceable by the inspection sometimes when the board places permit conditions

and the decision we asked the department of building inspection whether it's going to be -- whether they're able to enforce them so it's important when considering whether it's feasible. >> what advice, brad, would you give to a permit to anna tell ant who has come to us as the last time and we placed some considerations and conditions on while issuing the permit, and what would you advice the appellant to do and what is his advised method of accountability for the permit holder when one conditions are done? is it just going to the permit holder and say, hey, you are not upholding your end of the deal

or what advice would you give the a tell ant's council or the a tell ant's if such behavior conditions again? >> i think we had a discussion at the last hearing about d bye potentially, their ability to enforce these conditions so i would have expected them to go to dbi and. >> i wanted clarification exactly of what you said so that. >> theresa: they're not. >> thank you, very much. >> i'm sorry. >> i was going to say, commissioners, it would be helpful, i could speak to that a little bit, specifically to the dbi element and the unfortunate because i remember that discussion last time. i don't know if that would be helpful to the board but i'm happy to speak to that. >> we should get through this case and if there's any questions we can ask you councilor.

>> thank you. >> we will now hear from the agent for the permit holder, mr. >> my name is manny and i'm project manager. we took over the project in late november. and i'm also the company owner of the general contractor that took over and first and for most, i mean, i've heard the stories that mr. terry had to go through with the prior contractor and i saw the timeframe that at the took and it was astronomical but to prove that we're moving forward and making progress, the 819 unit and 829, they're done with final inspections so they're ready to go. we're working on the middle unit. we need the plumbing final and electrical final and the last bit of work that we're doing is actually the unit above mr. castro and we're finishing

up the tiles and we're start particular in that one and in the unit adjacent to that one so essentially by the end of next week and it will essentially be done besides maybe an inspection here or there or some showing from the real estate agent and we took over and i tried to introduce myself that mr. castro and he was in a hurry and he had to go somewhere and i came back and he can correct me on that and i don't remember exactly but i tried to talk to them and he was busy but i left him my business cards so i'm trying to make communication between us and he had my business card and when i got the case, i e-mailed mr. satani so he had my direct e-mail as well. what i'm trying to do with this, i just want to let you dies know

i'm here to answer and we're not going to hide and i want it to be strictly significant. i want you guys to keep us separate and the property owner. >> the most recent one that was the issue and i want to bring up that they were working sundays so what happened there, i want to be completely transparent. they weren't working. we had a couple of guys stay in the building. i don't know if that was permissable if it's not, we'll fix it. but that was the whole purpose. we kept our tools there. we kept all the materials there and we didn't want anybody to go in because someone got their tools broken into and stolen in

front of where we parked so that was the purpose. when they were there on sunday, it was just to play security. anyone that is a red flag to you, let me know. shoot me an e-mail, call me. we'll fix it right away. as far as the scaffolding goes, what i'm letting now is that we can put all the towers aside like we can make sure it's not in front of your window and we have no intend of replacing your windows and you are living there and we don't want to disrupt, when time comes we can replace them but the whole purpose is to replace the windows broken or the previous contractor tock them out without a permit because the unit is getting weathers in without the rain and i want you know i'm here to make this as easy as possible and like you said the schedule we can give that to you no problem

and the most that scaffold will be is three weeks and that includes for siding repair, the paint and the window replacement and i can send that over to you whatever we need and you can e-mail me or call me and we're here to help and make this as painless as possible and i promise, you want to be out of hampshire within the next month and we can make it happen. as long as we can proceed and that's pretty much it. the woods are on hand and we have the scaffold on deck and we just need a couple days notice and we can give you a safety pretty much a safety protocol and make sure that mr. castro has a passage of protocol, stop work when mr. castro exits. we can go any which way but safety is our number one concernment make this as painless as possible as long as coordinate.

when we go in somewhere, we want to get it done and at the end of the day move onto the next job. those are my remarks. >> thank you. we have a question from president honda and then commissioner lazarus. >> so, first of all, thank you for being as proactive as you are evidently, were you aware there were problems prior to you starting and commencing this project? >> so, frankly speaking, no, the only thing the owner told me it was a hard job but then as i kind of went in and we started to hear things left and right from not from the owner but from the people who used to help him. i called on finishes, they would say it happened. >> so when did you take over, sir? >> we took over, i would need to

check and the contract we send the contracts early november and we started in november. >> were you aware that there was stipulations on the permit that this body actually had put on so besides your normal work stuff from the department of building inspections, this board stipulated additional restrictions, were you aware of those at all by the owner? >> the restrictions no. the only thing i was aware of was the work hours but i looked up on your website and saw what hours were acceptable and as far as anything else, i was not aware. >> you know, which way it goes this evening, i would look at what was mentioned because those need to be adhered to no matter what. >> ok. >> thank you. commissioner lazarus. >> yes, thank you. this question is also for our city attorney following up on commissioner swig's questions. i guess i'm still confused as to

what our options are here. i mean we heard the permit and granted the appeal, conditioned the permit on certain conditions being met and you indicated when those aren't met those are, if you will, appealable to the building inspection zoos, what are we able to do? can we grant at peel and add more conditions? it seems to me that these permits can continue to bounce back, if that's always the case. so, if you won't mind clarifying that, it would help me. >> my understand it's a different permit than what was appealed before and the board could grant the appeal and add conditions that would be appropriate for this particular permit to the extent you deem are those are appropriate they

can be consistent with the conditions from the prior permit if that's appropriate for this permit and they could be something different that would be helping the ten at more in this situation. >> so this is a new and separate permit? >> i believe so. i believe the permit was something else. maybe someone can correct me. >> it's a separate permit. >> it's a new permit for the windows. >> i see, ok. that helps. thank you, very much. president honda. >> is the project sponsor online or just as representatives? >> it's my understanding just as representative. >> i mean, my concern is is that i can't imagine why he would not tell his new property manager of the prior situation. ok. i just wanted to see if he was online. thank you. >> thank you. we will now hear from the planning department, mr. sanchez. >> thank you, scott sanchez

planning department. i'll be brief. most of the issues raised by the appellant are properly building inspection issues. there's an open planning case related to the windows and this permit would correct that violation but properly installing the windows that were removed without permit. and the issues that you would defer to be conditioned that were suggested by the appellant and whether or not they're enforceable and i'm available for questions should there be any. >> thank you. so i don't see any questions so we'll now hear from the department building inspection and director duffy? >> good evening, commissioners. joe duffy dbi. permit application replacement of old window street facing front existing a proposed other

aluminum windows. it's been properly issued on the third of december 2020. suspended on the 15th of december 2020 and the permit is good. the good news that i heard was that there's someone new involved in the project and i think mr. castro mentioned that things had improved so it seems like we've got a couple of good positives here. the dbi is familiar with the building and in deed we were called out a couple times in 2020 regarding the security issues and doors left open and i would say the construction that was back in june. probably by the old contractor. we did issue a correction notice for that just to secure this site and that is part of our building code. we also have a notice, we have a couple of active notices of violations on the building that will remain until the work is all completed and the building

permits signed off. so it was very -- it was back in the 23rd of june 2020 was when we issued the last notice of violation so, i am seeing a response from our inspectors to the complaints of mr. chan so i remember the building probably two or three years ago and i was surprised to see an appeal on it because i felt the work was finished. i'm available for questions but i'm glad to hear the contractor is reaching out to speak to the tenant or his attorney. i really would encourage that. that offer should be taken up immediately. if they want to come up with an agreement between the work hours and what some time limits on the schedule york think it's unreasonable and it's more of the civil issue than a d bye get it very hard sometimes to enforce that and i don't think we can, actually. we can oversee it but if it goes

sideways, it is going to be more of a civil agreement in my opinion. and i think we spoken before the board of appeals such as work hours and that on the broke and we can oversee it and report back but i'm not sure what the enforcement is more than a civil issue. thank you. >> thank you, we have a question from commissioner swig. >> you are on mute. we condition hear you. >> >> thank you. >> thank you for updating us on the progress of the project and will you for updating us there are notice of violation and i'm not going to make the a sum sunn the contractor knows about those because he seems, although i was highly compliment him for his attitude both in-person tonight

and in his written presentation. it seems that maybe is not fully informed based on the accessibility about every intimacy of the project and would you please inform him or may i ask him, please, to be in touch with you so that he might take care of the notices of violation which he is not familiar with? thank you. >> it's a great idea. i forgot to mention if he want to contact me by e-mail and i have a decision from the last permit which he should be be aware of because it has conditions and i can share those with him. it's not a problem. >> thank you. we are now moving on to public comment. is there anyone here to provide public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand.

i do not see any hands. so, we will move on to rebuttal. mr. zatoni, you have throw minutes. >> thank you, very much, madam director. so, we are very happy to hear that the contractor is willing to work with us on the issues and i think i can speak for my client and myself both. we'll be happy to take advantage of that option. we have something that is already evident to the board here tonight which is the restrictions we're asking for which serve as a guard against the communication issues that are still happening on the other side. i hear the contract that he wants to work with us and i love and adore that but the conditions we asked for in our papers will guard against the lack of discussion and lack of communication between the owner and the contractors for different contractors. just for a example, even in the context of this appeal, after he

first reached out to me because i believe that, i reached out to him to find out if there was an attorney representing him like there was the last time and if you eventually responded and you said there wasn't but in the time he said that, he took the response which is understandable, communication takes time. i also reached out to the designated person for service of process in this case. and said hello, i just heard and he was saying that he might be interested in trying to row solve this issue and some other way and we would be open to trying to have that conversation and we're going to in good faith and it didn't seem to go anywhere. i didn't get a response and they tell me i don't think they talk to him about that either. my concern is, the person we have is a good actor who will work with us and work with my client and he is not the only actor and the restrictions are

going to guard against any actors is doing illegal conduct not just him. >> thank you, are you finished? >> yes, thank you. >> thank you. >> we will hear from you. you have three minutes, sir. >> i mean, i'm going to be honest and the lack of communication that you are saying this and that is, i work, we all make sure that we don't break it and schedules, whatever you need as far as anything goes, like i said, i can't speak for the property owner and i mean, as far as i'm concerned mr. castro and i we can have that communication and after that e-mail thread, i didn't hear from anybody as far as that

goes so, i don't know what route that was meant to go and i'm responsive and if you don't want anybody working there, that's fine, we'll do whatever it takes. we'll get it done. we're a month out and we're almost done and out of your hair, that was it. >> we have a question from commission swig and commissioner chang. >> >> you are on mute, commissioner swig. >> >> i'm here. >> now we hear you. >> nimble i am not. thank you for your attitude towards this project and your willingness to responsive to the tenant and the appellant and are you aware of the notices of

violation which exists and are those and are those noticed of violation on a list of your responsibilities before you leave the property? >> yes, sir. all the violations i have to take care of by the time that i continue over the project as the final inspections and the only violation i was aware of that was open was the windows. and that's why we pulled the window permit right away as soon as we got there because they removed them before they had a permit. >> may i request that you i know you heard it but i have to be clear for the record and can i request you be in touch with mrs are very, very clear on what they exist and when they might be heard please. >> absolutely. >> commissioner chang. >> >> just a couple clarifying

questions. so if i understand properly, the permit that is being appealed is the permit to correct a notice of violation for illegally removing windows? is that correct? >> who are you addressing that question to? >> that is what deputy director duffy said, correct. >> and if the board supports the appeal, and we condition that permit with the requested such as limiting hours and similar conditions placed on the previous permit, as soon as the window replacement is over that it doesn't necessarily i guess that question is how does

conditioning this permit with the similar conditions and as applied to the previous permit help address the appellant's concerns. >> deputy director duffy raised the issue that a lot of these conditions are difficult to enforce because they can't be out there at the property. >> if would you like to hear from deputy director duffy -- >> i apologize. my question is most directed so mr. zataoni. >> yes, i was going to volunteer. you did not have to, thank you. our response to that commissioner would be that the nature of the bay the permit a feel system is my client has to do this one bit at a time. ideally, there would be a world

wherewith one hearing like this we would be able to work things out such that everything would be done followed certain conditions and depend on how things going, maybe it's an option in the limited context working with him. however, we're not hira peeling this specific permit because we believe appealing and having conditions on this permit is the panacea to all issues in the property. rather, my client is at the point where any additional protection and conditions this board can offer protection and conditions that the otherwise has not been able to get through any other means or channels. we're not here look to go win the war, we're just here look to go get him and his family live safely and comfort plea, does that make sense? >>

>> can you hear me? >> yes, ma'am. >> yes, thank you. thank you. we will now hear from the planning department. mr. sanchez. anything further? >> nothing further to add, thank you. >> thank you. deputy director duffy. >> just to add i want to repeat to get the parties to work together if they're looking on a timeline on the work, it's not an unreasonable request. i heard the contractor mentioned three weeks or four weeks and i recommend he doubles that and gives himself time but if he can get it wrapped up by the end off march it would work better for everybody but don't make promises you can't keep and again just encourage the parties to try to get some good faith and work together. we have a question from more lazarus. >> mr. cuff', i just want to

clarify this may have been where commissioner chang was going. the previous permit, it sounds like those conditions could have been problematic for you because you can't be out there continuously enforcing them. if we put those conditions on, will that help him enable the a tell ant to report back to you and ask them be enforced and i just want to be in a situation where we're putting somewhere there that really is meaningless so i would really start your feedback on what is helpful o the parties, i guess? >> we have no problem with conditions it's just the enforcing of them. we do our building code stuff. beer not a security firm but we don't mind reporting back to the board if it comes back to that and sometimes if the conditions are not met, we're not open at

6:30 in the evening unless someone sends us a video or does something like that. we would need evidence but it would be the problem but it might be something for the canada and the lawyer to go somewhere else and suddenly, with our oversight of projects on the contractor, if you still work in san francisco he will come across this again and he wants to do the right thing and it's a great thing and we can definitely help a little bit and i would just worry about it we can't write a notice of violation and we can report it to the city and we just really bad. it seems like we can help but i'm just not sure where it all ends up. >> i believe you said thaw think the the best route is an

agreement between the parties? >> >> we would always recommend that anyway. they have to come up with a simple written agreement. i think the attorney is a and he could give those conditions to the contractor and i'm sure they're not unreasonable and work security and all the got things you want 6 a construction site and as long as they're not outrageous they would grow and they can sign off together and it doesn't go to a judge but something we're always encourage. >> this matter is submitted. >> what's before us, i believe throw of us was here the last case, were you here vice president santacana? on this last time? >> yes, i was.

>> you know, the issue i have is what the department stated. we sometimes as a board condition the permit and it becomes unenforce able for the departments and as the representative for the project sponsors spoke two of the units are done and he appears to be be very proactive and have reached out to the appellant twice and to the attorney. i don't feel adding additional terms to modify this is with terms that are really not enforceable are going to be helpful. and so, that's just my thoughts, commissioners, anyone? i agree. to me the permit was properly issued and why think anybody dispute that and based on what mr. duffy has told us, i would

simply move to i would support motion to uphold the permit and deny the appeal. >> would you like it make that motion? >> commissioner lazarus. >> is it appropriate or regal for us to reassert, reaffirm or at least acknowledge the conditions and attach the conditions as appropriate from the previous permit to this one with regard to the acceptable times for construction to answer? >> it wasn't put on the agenda it was a separate permit that was appealed. we really just need to address the permit that the is before us. >> so, what we're doing here then is, and again, i -- it's

refreshing to hear the contractor at least his words, and his energy sometimes it's always us that is good. we are really taking a leap of faith here on what is historically been a not so good situation to my denying this appeal to be comfortable that everything will go as we smooth as we would like. that's my only problem. as a new contractor, he seems like a nice guy and he has the right answers and expressed himself eloquently but i want to bring, you got to remember about nightmares so,. >> unfortunately commissioner swig, there are two forces at hand here and i believe a lot of

this is civil. so, what is before us tonight is if the permit before us is properly issued and. >> i support the commissioner lazarus' point of view and it's just what i would like. i always like to surface my thoughts and feelings. >> we gave him a hammer he will be re fleshed with our deputy director duffy and does commissioner chang have something to say? >> my only question, can you only apply conditions if you uphold the appeal and deny the permit and. >> it would take four commissioners to grant that appeal and then modify it. >> thank you. >> i make a motion. >> move to deny the appeal and uphold the permit on the basis it was properly issued.

>> we have a motion from commissioner lazarus and uphold the permit on the basis it was properly issued on that motion, vice president -- >> so that motion carries 5-0 and appeal is denied. we are now moving on to item number 6. this is appeal number 20-072. lady benjamin pd cannon versus the zoning administrator 024 and 5030 third street appealing the issuance on september 30th to jadallah charles of notice of violation and penalty decision. the building containing commercial and building. 503030 third street and fronts

on third street and a detached 3-car garage and contains a one-story detached structure at 5024 third street at the corner and subject property is in violation of the planning code for non-compliance with section 171 i object concluding establishment of a internet exchange within the basement and groundfloor of 5030 third street and section 317 for having an unauthorized dwelling unit at 5024 third street. this is complaint 2018-016696. it does not appear the appellant is present. i don't see her here. she initially wanted a continuance to june 23rd, 2021 because she said she was waiting on discovery she could ask the board for a conditionance and on

thursday, she submitted and the proposed hearing date of octobe. they are posted on the website. would you like to proceed with the case or would you like to consider whether to continue the matter? if you do want to entertainment a motion to condition we need to hear from the planning department and property owner. >> i have read the material in regards to the request and we have to be fair to both parties and it was not handled in timely manner i believe there was enough time given to.

>> we'll get straight to the case and we will first hear from the property owner, mr. gidalla. >> yeah, i believe that will six by seven network needs to be denied. because of fraud and committed on so many fronts. he has been posting as the owner of the building and having different work done on the property and he has had demo work done without any approval or landlords approvals and received permits without landlord approvals and to do different things and he had a company do street work without

approvals that damaged the sidewalks that i now need to repair and is in an issue with the building, this lease that we have with him is a three year lease that was done for the basement and storage he was use particular for and now he is squatting or she is squatting in the middle of this whole case and she is now squatting in the retail space which is 4,500 square feet and the locks have been changed without appeal and.

>> there's a garbage. >> lena: lein. she has boarded and barricaded herself into the building. i also want to point out that there's other attorneys that have just contacted me trying to reach and serve lady benjamin with other lawsuits. if you look at andrewwaters.com/6 by 7 there's a detailed lawsuit sent to the f.b.i. because of cyber crimes detailing by an attorney and ryan pinker ton has a case of

fraud against lady benjamin and it's a fraudulent contract and sale that they put together and there's a bench warrant from sanoma county has been issues against lady benjamin that the county police have been trying top reach and arrest him and there's nothing i can do and she is avoiding arrest. >> so, i'm sorry to interrupt but is there some type of relief you are looking for from this board? >> well, i just want this action to be denied. this appeal to be denied. that's all. >> the narrow question we have to answer is whether the action, the specific appeal should be granted or denied. you should stick to that and if you have nothing to add, then -- >> i wanted to put some color. i know the district attorney's office in alameda is trying to serve him so, there's a little

bit of background. if you can deny this we'll move forward. i had an attorney in san francisco working on this for a year and i know it's covid time but it's putting a lot of stress on me. so thank you for listening. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> vice president santacana, did you have anything further? >> no, that's it. thank you. >> all right. so we will now hear from the planning department. >> thank you, scott sanchez planning department. i appreciate the comments of the property owner and i think it's provided helpful background for the board on the hearing tonight. what is before the board is an appeal of a violation and penalty decision that was issued by the zoning add straight ter on september 30th, 2020. the subject property is located in the bayview neighborhood commercial direction. the violation in the notice of penalty decisions are the establishment of an internet service exchange use and also issues related to and authorized dwelling unit on the subject

property and they were provided by the appellant that would pate that the decision was a discussion and given this is a little bit different circumstances where the appellant has not shown up so i'd like to give a little bit of background with with to the itance request that was made so it goes back several years to december 2018 when the planning department opened the complaints ex we she'd notice of enforcement in august of 2019 and a notice of vile ace was issued and a request for a zoning add administrator request was filed by the property owner not the appellant in this matter

and the zoning administrator held a public hearing on the notice of violation at that hearing and the appellant appeared, the appellant had legal council and mr. jason haines, who introduced himself as the appellant legal council for this case. the zone administrator issued this penalty decision on september 30th finding the violation was upheld on october 15th, 2020 the appellant filed the appeal of this decision. on november 3rd of 2020, the appellant requested that the hearing be continued and they sided they were waiting for public records request. i responded the same day asking for details on what department and given it was open for two years at that point. and i did not receive a response. they had somehow assumed that we

had agreed to the rescheduling even though no agreement was ever given and the board never processed the rescheduling request. a week before the hearing, the appellant kind of resurfaced and said that they were expecting this case to be rescheduled. [please stand by]

>> they included with that e-mail a link to the sunshine ordinance task force which says don't e-mail us, e-mail the -- you know, contact the departments directly through your public records, but still, they missed that, made the request through the sunshine task force. forwarded it to our department. we received it on january 8 and responded on january 31 to mr. haines with the public records. given these facts, we disagreed with their scheduling request that they had made on january 22. they had ample time to make public records request. certainly at the time she made the public records request on november 3, it was indicated that they had already made requests, but the only request that i can find is on january

8. so we denied that request. the appellant again requested a continuance, stating that they were going to obtain legal council. we denied that request and indicated that they were represented by legal council at the time of the zoning administrator hearing. mr. haines responded that he was not representing the appellant on this matter, but certainly, there was every opportunity the appellant had to obtain legal council prior to the hearing and within a reasonable amount of time given this case has gone on since december 2018. so i wanted to outline those more recent developments that have happened after the notice of violation was issued. appreciate the property owner's comments tonight. we respectfully request the board of appeals uphold the notice of violation and deny the appeal and i'm available

for questions. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. we do have a question from president honda. >> president honda: so let's say the board upholds the notice of violation. so what happens to the property owner here? so the violation is on the property, not on the tenant, is that correct? >> that's correct. the violation runs to the land, not to the property owner, but they'll have a firm notice of violation, a finding from the city, that their tenant is in violation of municipal codes, and they'll probably pursue, i would presume pursue eviction for the violation of the lease because they -- their lease doesn't allow them to have a use that violates municipal codes, so i think that would probably give the property owner the leverage to deal with this. again, our goal is always compliance. you know, not to get to

penalties. we want to see compliance, we want to see the violations abated here, and we'll work with the property owner or the tenant to get this violation abated. right now, the tenant has not been responding to try to -- there have been no attempts to try to address this violation. i don't think they've made good faith efforts through this appeal process, and how they represented their continuance requests, and this will, you know, will need to step forward and move forward in the process and get the violation abated, and we'll work with the property owner on how to do that. >> president honda: no, i totally agree, mr. sanchez. this has been abuse of city resources and, you know, these departments to basically prolong this. now, if the notice of violation, are there fees that will be attached to this? >> so there are penalties up to $250 a day for each day the violation continues unabated,

and that would begin once the board of appeals makes its decision and order. that makes the decision final. there's also tenant materials charges that will be assessed, and we'll work with the parties to collect any outstanding materials or penalties that accrue. >> president honda: so separate question. i know that this body does not have the ability to adjust fees and fines, but it appears to me, at least in this particular case. that the property owner has been subjected to quite a few already, and then to add more to this is -- so, i mean, is there any way that the department is going to work with him to -- >> i would think this is quite an unusual circumstance, and i can't recall a similar hearing. of course, our goal is always compliance, so we'll work with the owner to bring the property into compliance, and we understand the situation that they find themselves in. >> president honda: thank you.

thank you very much, mr. sanchez. >> thank you. >> clerk: thank you. i do see that i believe deputy director duffy is still present. deputy director duffy, did you want to participate in this case? >> just to add that d.b.i. does have a few standing complaints and notices of violation, as well, and still haven't received permits to comply, but that's all i have to add. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> president honda: i have a question for you. so if you become permanent deputy director, does that mean we lose your expertise on wednesday? no, joe. >> clerk: no. >> i'm a long way from being permanent, president honda, but we'll keep you posted. >> president honda: okay. thank you, joe. >> clerk: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? if so, please raise your hand. i see -- one moment -- if you

called in to provide public comment, you could dial star, nine, and that will be the equivalent of raising your hand. okay. i don't see anybody raising their hand, so we will move onto rebuttal. mr. jadallah, you have three minutes. >> no -- well, i can -- if you guys can do the whatchamacallit, deny the appeal, i'll work with whoever's needed. my attorney is working on eviction of the tenants. he's working on the eviction side of things, and as soon as we get the okay to go in there, we'll get the street corrected and whatever other violation that joe mentioned that's out

there. and then, if you could work with us on the fees, if you saw all the stuff that i've had to deal with on this thing the past two years -- this is like that movie, "pacific heights," so any way, that's it. >> president honda: thank you. >> clerk: okay. thank you. mr. sanchez, do you have anything further? >> thank you. scott sanchez, planning, and nothing further to add. >> clerk: okay. thank you. deputy director duffy, anything further? >> nothing further. >> clerk: okay. thank you. commissioners, this matter's submitted. >> president honda: commissioners, who wants to go first? >> seems pretty clear-cut to me. >> commissioner swig: make a motion. >> clerk: i'd like to remind you that the level is err or abuse of discretion.

>> commissioner lazarus: okay. i'd make a motion that the administrator did not err or abuse his discretion. >> clerk: okay. we have a motion from commissioner lazarus that the zoning administrator did you err or abuse his discretion. on that motion -- [roll call] >> clerk: okay. we can try to reach her, but we already have three votes to deny, so should we -- >> president honda: i think we should try to call her.

>> clerk: okay. i'll give her a call. one moment. >> thank you. >> commissioner lazarus: mr. president, maybe i could just take this time to remind the appellant that we do not have any jurisdiction over these penalties or anything of that nature. >> president honda: thank you for that, and i believe that mr. sanchez said that they would try to work with the appellant, but once again, we don't have any control over those fees. otherwise, some people would be charged a lot. >> commissioner lazarus: and i didn't mean the appellant, i meant the property owner. >> thank you for that. >> president honda: why don't we wait about another minute or so. if commissioner chang -- >> clerk: commissioner chang is back with us. >> president honda: okay. >> clerk: so commissioner chang, we had a motion from commissioner lazarus to deny the appeal and uphold the

determination on the basis that the zoning administrator did not err or abuse his discretion and the violation was properly issued. on that motion, commissioner santacana -- i'm sorry. vice president santacana voted aye, and president honda voted aye, and now we're to your vote. [roll call] >> clerk: okay. so that motion carries, 5-0, and the appeal is denied. and we don't have any further items. >> commissioner swig: wow, letting us out of school early. >> clerk: yes. president honda? >> president honda: thank you very much, everybody. so we don't have a hearing next week? >> clerk: yes, we do. >> president honda: oh, we do have a hearing next week. awesome. see everybody next week. >> clerk: okay.

thank you. >> i'm san francisco mayor london breed. i'm so excite the to be here today to swear in the next assessor-recorder for the city and county of san francisco. joaquin torres. i want to say a few things about joaquin. i known him for so many years. we started off many years ago in city government in the mayor's office in neighborhood services, doing work to help support communities. he has really an incredible

personality. he always focused on getting the job done for people who need it the most. it is not a surprise in he's been able to work his way up into numerous positions that has helped steer the city in the right direction. let me just give you an example. when the san francisco housing authority was in trouble, we were having numerous challenges. the federal government threatened to intervene. joaquin torres was appointmented to serve on the commission. at that time, he became the president of the commission and he helped move us in a direction that has allowed for us to get investments to rehab 3400 units to get us off the red with the federal government and to get us back on track to support the families of the san francisco housing authority. it was very personal for me as someone who lived over 20 years

of my life in public housing that we did something that didn't display the resident and that recognized that they needed to make sure that the. conditions of public housing didn't continue down the wrong path. we appreciate his work. which was a volunteer job. not to mention his day job, when i became mayor, i appointed joaquin to be the director of the office of economic workforce development. i did it because my experience as a district supervisor and someone who worked in the community, he would always about the community. he could have sent staff members and his staff members were present and available. he was always on the ground facilitating conversation and making connections between what the community needed and what city hall needed to do to support them.

his leadership style is really what helped to not only look at some of the disparities and issues around equity that we were dealing in covid, he worked tirelessly to make sure that grant moneys were going to small businesses. he helped create the african-american resolving loan fund. he helped address lot of the disparities with the latino community when we saw surges of cases in that community and a need to provide financial support to a number of agencies including those small businesses.

his understanding of finance, his understanding of how economic development works, his work with small businesses, big businesses and all things san francisco, makes him just really the perfect candidate to be the next assessor-recorder for the city and county of san francisco. with that, i like to bring joaquin torres forward so i can swear him in and make it official. are you ready? >> okay. >> i, joaquin torres, do swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united

states and the constitution of the state of california against all enemies foreign and domestic that i bear true faith and allegiance to the same. that i take this obligation freely. without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties which i'm about to enter and during such time, as i serve as the assessor-recorder for it city and county of san francisco. congratulations. [applause]

>> congratulations. ladies and gentlemen, your assessor-recorder, joaquin torres, [applause]

>> thank you mayor breed. thank you very much. thank you to my family who was here with me today. to my mom, who's listening in from downtown south, to my two dads who i marry in this building to my sister, to my wife. to my aunt and uncle up north, to my friends aall of you who joining us online. the collection of billions of dollars, property tax dollars is essential to constantly and

solvency of this city of san francisco. i'm honored, mayor breed, for the confidence you placed in me as i assume these responsibilities as the assessor-recorder for the city and county of san francisco. all of these depend on the financial foundation built through the hard work of this office and that is a responsibility i take very seriously. in the western edition. you treated me with grace, with

the respect and with bearing that told me you better do right. from my grandfather, who has a butcher rose before work before dawn each day so he can buy a home for his family and help his three children become an artist, bilingual teacher and education leader and an amazing public servant. to my nana, who taught me the love of caring, that came in a

file wrapped package that she packed for my flights back and forth between separated parents. to my grandmother, who has a seamstress steadily towards the purchase of a beautiful home. to my father, who broke barriers for latino politicians at a time when being a mexican-american was a significant hurdle for leadership. to my mom, who after career writer and journalist taught me true courage meaning and strength. i'm very proud of my family my mexican-american family. a family of teachers, artist,

writers, journalist, butchers, caretakers, cooks, seamstresses and soon to be lawyers for what they strive so achieve and what they continue to give back to family and to society. i'm grateful for them raising me defined by resiliency and public service. i'm a very proud husband to an extraordinary artist. my wife, rebo who guide me through stresses of public service who shown what it means to be loved, to love to be wrong, to be compassionate and vulnerable. thank you for seeing me. thank you for seeing supporting my love for this work. i'm so fortunate to have these people in my life. who shaped my approach to public service, not all of us can be so lucky. not all of us can rest at night

knowing that the love and care we hope for is part of successful life will be for us when we need it most. it's that awareness and those values principles and ethics that my family has instilled in me, carried with me the toughest times through the hardest of life challenges. when i called out for help, not knowing if it existed for me, it was my family that heard my call. it's that care and our ethics that i work to infuse in my 11 years of public service to the city. they've given me the confidence and strength to know that every shred of my being that my community need to be listened to and heard. it's those values i will bring to this new role as assessor-recorder. these are the values we need always. but especially today, when people are hurting so badly, so deeply when they need to know

there's a government caring for them with caring and doors open and not shut, a government that's accessible and be accountable to you the people that we are proud to serve. i want to thank city administrator chu for her commitment to the professionals at the assessor-recorder's awesome. thank you for haig this -- makingthis transition a succl one. i joined a team of hard working and professionals that made carmen's vision for fair and efficient government, not only a reality but an envy of offices up and down the state. that's a legacy i'll strive to continue and excited to learn and work with all of you at the office to continue down that path. one of excellence, one of continuous improvement for the betterment of san francisco. to the team i part with today,

the office of economic and workforce development, you have prepared me for this moment. it's been long hard year for so many businesses and workers throughout this pandemic for the barbers, gyms, bars, the fears, the actors, the concessionaries, the tattoo artist and restaurants, hotel workers, janitors and office workers. nonprofits rising up and you all every single one of you rising up to meet these moments. to meet so many entrepreneurs determined to make it through this. for their workers, for themselves and for it city that they love. what you shown me, what all of you have taught me, those were the moral authority, those with the formal authority. the mayors, the assembly

members, senators and controllers and supervisors, which you taught me once again is that there's always hope on the horizon. every storm eventually breaks for the clear sky above. to the diverse communities that i serve with respect to gratitude during these 11 years of service, for the neighborhood leaders, coalitions of parity and equity for the public housing, merchant leaders, thank you for the confidence you placed in me. to serve you for many years more. to find new paths to build a better and more prosperous san francisco for all of us. i thank you mayor breed. all of you for your leadership and your trust.

now i'm ready to go to work. thank you. [applause] >> thank you all so much for joining us today. this concludes our program. stay safe and healthy. let's get our city open. [applause]

>> welcome to the february #, 2021 meeting of the land use and transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'm supervisor myrna melgar, joined by vice chair preston and supervisor peskin. the clerk is erica major. and i would like to acknowledge sfgov-tv, thank you for staffing this meeting. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes, due to the covid-19 health emergency, and to protect the board members and the employees and the public, the board of supervisors legislative chamber and committee room are closed. however, members will participate remotely. this precaution is taken to the stay-at-home order and declarations and directives. the committee members will attend through video conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if physically present. public comment will -- [broken

audio] and sfgov-tv.org are streaming the number across the screen. each speaker is allowed two minutes to speak. comments are opportunities to speak during the public comment period and are available view phone by calling the number 1-(415)-655-0001. again, that number is 1-(415)-655-0001 and the meeting i.d. is 146 646 6079 again, 146 646 6079. and then press pound and pound again. when connecting you will hear the meeting discussion but you will be in mute and listening mode only. when your interest item comes up press star, 3, to be add to the speaker line. speak clearly and slowly and turn down your radio or tv. and you can submit by emailing

myself eicca.org... and if you submit public comment via email it's forwarded to the supervisors and made part of the official file. written comments may be submitted via u.s. postal service to city hall 1 doctor carl goodlet place, san francisco, california, 94102. and finally, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisor's agenda of february 9th, unless otherwise stated. madam chair. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. please call the first item. >> clerk: yes. item 1 is an emergency ordinance to restrict landlords from evicting tenants for non-payment of rent due to the covid-19

pandemic. to provide comment call the number on the screen, 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 146 646 6079. and then press pound and pound again. if you have not done so already, dial star, and then three to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. madam chair? >> supervisor moliga: , supervisor preston will you provide your remarks? >> supervisor preston: thank you for getting this on the calendar and this was an emergency ordinance and very time sensitive when introduced. i would like to do -- to address it and i will be making a motion after remarks to continue the item to the call of the chair. before today, madam chair, and the emergency ordinance to

extend the eviction protections for non-payment of rent due to covid-related financial hardships. we introduced this item on january 19th, i was at the request of the tenant advocate community, who are expressing that the renters that were impacted and the folks they were counselling, were understandably terrified that the existing protections that were laid out under the state bill a.b.-38 were to expire on january 31st. yesterday, and although there were ongoing discussions of extending the state-wide protections there was a palpable fear that that would not materialize before the february rent and months of back rent became due. and so in response we have introduced this emergency ordinance which sought to extend by 60 days the local eviction protections that we currently have in place in san francisco to cover rent starting february

1st. then on monday last week, we learned about the new proposal sb-11, the state level, that would extend the state-wide eviction law through june of this year. as well as create a program for rent relief. this bill was unveiled really at the last minute, negotiated primarily between the governor and leadership of the senate and the assembly without tenant advocates participating to a large extent, as far as i know, without a lot of input even from our s.f. san francisco legislators and delegation in the capitol. this was a leadership deal, left no time for amendments, no real opportunity for public input. no hearing such as this for the public to call in and to be heard. it was passed on thursday last week and then signed into law by the governor on friday. this news i greet with mixed

feelings. in an immediate sense, the state bill provides some peace of mind for impacted tenants that are worried about what would happen today on february 1st, when so many folks had their rent come due. so there's a five-month window before evictions are allowed to move forward and that is certainly very important and good news, particularly in parts of the state that don't have a city council or a board of supervisors that has been passing protections against evictions where these state protections are the only protections that exist at all. so given the proposed 60-day effective period of the emergency legislation that's here before us in committee, and given the length and the timing of the state-wide extension provided by sb-91, and given the

state preemption -- and i will address this a bit more in a minute -- but the state preemption of any further covid non-payment protections locally, i don't believe that our legislation needs to move forward today and as such as i have mentioned we'll make a motion to continue it to the call of the chair. before i do make that motion, i just wanted to share some additional thoughts on these developments and, obviously, things have been moving quickly with good news and bad news across the board here. but, you know, i think that broadly speaking, it is a positive step for the state to step in with a proposal to have protections and rent relief in california. but i see three real problems here. one is the limited nature of what was passed. and the second was how it was done. and the third is the actions by

the state in tying the hands of local government. so from the first point, what was done here is just not enough and it does not meet the needs of the moment. the state has the power to issue a complete and comprehensive eviction moratorium. the governor's press releases since early in the pandemic continue to inaccurately to portray his actions as if there is a broad eviction moratorium in place in california. and the problem is that the reality hasn't really matched up with those public statements. the governor has not and apparently will not issue a true eviction moratorium, nor has the legislature in california stepped up to pass that kind of true protection for folks who are struggling during this pandemic. as for the rent relief part of the program, that program is voluntary. it will do some good in some cases but for most vulnerable

tenants, the bill will leave them on the hook for 75% of their rent. better than being on the hook for 100% of their rent. but it's not relief and the state needs to step up in a more robust and bold way. second from my discussions with state-wide advowicates and i alluded to this earlier, the -- the tenant advocates were completely shut out of this process, despite months of dedicated organizing. and to wait to the last minute and then fast track such important policy decisions, to do that without the folks who represent those most vulnerable and have expertise on evictions, who for months have been demanding to be heard in this process, i think that it's a textbook way to make poor public policy. and i think it shows in the resulting policy, which will leave most tenants vulnerable and in growing and massive debt.

and, third, and perhaps worst of all, the initial reading of sb-91 indicates that efforts to provide stronger local protections will be preempted by the new bill. so even if after recognizing these potential shortcomings in the state law, san francisco wanted to pursue additional stronger local anti-displacement measures to protect tenants who are unable to pay rent because of covid, it appears that our hands have to some extent been tied by state. and i just want to say because we become a little numb to what some of these words mean and we hear them all the time -- preset. ion and state versus local -- you know, it's really outrageous i think that the state government would be acting to stop localities like san francisco from going beyond what they're providing in state law

when it comes to protecting our own residents. it is one thing for the state to set the floor of minimum protection. and we could criticize whether they went far enough. but they set a floor. and to allow cities to add to that locally, that's what the states should have done. it's quite another for the state to create some protections, but then wrap up in those protections bans on local legislative bodies taking additional steps to protect their residents. and i strongly object to that. and really i would say to the governor and to the leadership in sacramento, shame on you for including any preemption provisions in a bill of this kind as we're all working -- i would hope all working -- to try to prevent displacement and alleviate rent debt that tenants are struggling under. the final thing, my office has

also introduced legislation similar to what's on our agenda today that's not an emergency ordinance. it's a permanent amendment to the administrative code, a regular ordinance. and that will come before this committee in the future and i do intend to -- to use that as a vehicle really to explore every opportunity to protect our most vulnerable tenants, including protections that extend out beyond the state preemption, which runs through june. so with that and just relative to the items before us today we would like to make a motion to continue the item to the call of the chair, thank you, chair melgar. >> chair melgar: thank you for your astute analysis and comments as always. supervisor peskin, did you have some comments of your own? >> supervisor peskin: thank you,

madam chair. i wholeheartedly associate myself with the comments that you just made. i am highly reluctant to score any recall of any kind, but i do believe that this governor is completely out of touch. i am quite despondent that there was no communication with the cities like san francisco, and other similarly situated cities. this notion of preemption that i think that you did a remarkably good job of explaining, you said it just right. it should set minimum standards. this city, along with many others that has been fighting for repeal of the ellis act, which the real estate industry got their way with in sacramento, mostly folks like us

get elected to local government to make the best and right decisions for our local population which in the case of san francisco even during covid remains a two-thirds renters' town. and the fact that the state of california is using their powers to preempt the city and county of san francisco and other similarly situated governments is as you have said truly outrageous. having said that, i will support just as a function of what has happened relative to sb-91, the continuance of this matter but i stand with you. >> chair melgar: thank you, supervisor peskin. madam clerk, do we have any public comment? >> clerk: thank you, madam chair. we have two listeners and one in queue. and we have mr. koe assisting us

today with the callers. so if you could please unmute the first caller. >> caller: hello committee, i wanted to thank you for letting me speak and thank you madam chairperson. i'm justin goodman, an associate attorney with zachman and patterson and i'm here representing the san francisco apartment association and the small property owners of san francisco. what i wanted to share with the committee which, obviously, the committee is well aware, is california sb-91 was signed into law last friday and has immediate effect and we agree with the statements of supervisor preston that it supersede the local authority in this area. while you're speaking on this, we had particular concerns with -- i know this is an emergency ordinance, but like the rent increase moratorium it obviously could be extended and this was written in an open-ended language to allow

further continuances, particularly with san francisco's smaller property owners. we thought that it was overbroad in including section 37.9, sub-b of the administrative code that is an exemption on the provisions for owners who rent bedrooms out of their own apartments and we thought that impaired our small property owners' right of privacy. but in general this is something that needs state-wide attention and unfortunately has gotten it and we appreciate that sb-91 has sought relief for landlords which is something that is absent from our local regulations in this area. and, again, particularly with the small property owners, many would have had difficulty meeting their own costs, including mortgages with lenders now suggesting they need to pay or they'll be in default and lose not only their rent units but also their homes when they have not received rent for a year. so we appreciate that california has enacted what we perceive as a more balanced solution to this problem. and, certainly, there should be

and can be more voices at the table in future legislation, but in the meantime we believe that this occupies the field and preserves section 11.7905 of the code of civil procedure that has the supremacy of state law in this area and we urge the board, obviously, to understand what supervisor preston has pointed out in that for the time being that there's no local authority to act in this area. thank you very much for your time. >> and, madam chair -- >> chair melgar: thank you, mr. goodman. yes, supervisor preston. >> supervisor preston: i'm not going to engage in a back and forth dialogue with the last speaker, but i will note for the record that in the early months of the pandemic, the san francisco apartment association repeatedly reported -- what is my personal experience as a small landlord in san francisco, that the vast majority of their tenants were paying 100 cents on the dollar.

so we've seen less of those reports from the apartment association, but i believe that the comments of the last speaker are not actually supported by that. >> chair melgar: thank you, supervisor peskin. do we have any other public comments, madam clerk. >> clerk: thank you, madam chair. can you confirm that there aren't any other callers? again, if you would like to be in the queue you would press star, 3, and you would see your number on our side and we can admit you. >> madam chair, we have no callers in the queue. >> chair melgar: great. so with that, public comment is now closed. and there is a motion on the floor. madam clerk, do you -- i'm sorry -- yes, vice chair -- >> sorry. i did want to comment briefly before we vote and just in light of the comment.

you know, i just want to -- to make it clear that when -- when there is a reference by one of the leading eviction law firms in the city to go about the more balanced approach taken in sacramento, what that means, i just want to be very clear and make sure that the public understands that i as someone who has spent quite a bit of time working in our state capitol on tenant rights issues, there is a dynamic in our state capital where our state legislature and our governor refuse to act on landlord/tenant matters to protect tenants unless they get consent of the landlords they are regulating. that is the dynamic in our state capital. where our san francisco board of supervisors is willing to adopt

policies that protect tenants, even when at times those policies are opposed by landlords that we feel that it is our duty to do that and to prevent displacement and that occurs locally. and that occurs in other city councils and board of supervisors in cities around the state. it rarely occurs in sacramento where the landlord industry is given a virtual veto power over tenant protection. so when we have a behind closed door deal and then we characterize that as if there were a balanced approach taken in sacramento, what is really meant is that what was adopted is fine with the landlords who approved it and who were at the table when tenant advocates were not. it's no way to make policy, we need bold leadership right now to address the issues that i know that you, chair melgar, and

you supervisor peskin, have led on for years and years in san francisco. and it is a sad day when we see this kind of weak policymaking at the state level. and as i said though, the problem is not that sacramento has not solved all of the problems with this bill. i don't think that any of us expected that. but for them to then tie our hands is inexcusable. we will find every way that we can to get around that, to pass the protections locally that we need to, and, frankly, to work with our state legislators and we have been in touch with assembly member chu who is continuing to work on his bill, which is not the bill here that passed, right. and he is continuing to work on his bill with tenant advocates to take effect when these current preemptive measures expire in june. so this is not the beginning of this conversation, not the end of this conversation.

probably the middle of this conversation. but it's a very disappointing time for the state to come together to pass some protections, but then to use that as an opportunity to actually stop cities and counties from protecting their residents. thank you. >> chair melgar: thank you, supervisor preston. madam clerk, supervisor preston made a motion to continue this to the call of the chair. would you please call roll. >> clerk: yes, on the motion as stated by supervisor preston [roll call vote] you have three ayes. >> chair melgar: thank you. are there anymore items on our agenda? >> clerk: that completes the business for today. >> chair melgar: thank you so much, so we are adjourned. thank you.

>> hello, my name is jamie harper. in this episode, we are featuring the park locations in your very own backyard. this is your chance to find your heart in san francisco with someone special.

golden gate park's largest body of water is this lake, a popular spot for strolling and paddling around in boats, which can be rented. created in 1893, it was designed foreboding and -- for boating. it is named for the wild strawberries that once flores. a pleasant trail follows the perimeter past huntington falls, 110 foot waterfall. two bridges connect the trail to the island. the climb to the hills summit, the highest point in golden gate park at more than four hundred feet. you can get quinces of the western side of the city through -- glimpes of the

western side of city through a thick trees. the lake is ada accessible. it has a peaceful atmosphere where you can enjoy a warm day. walk along the lake and watched many ducks, and swans, and seagulls. it is a tranquil spot to stroll, enjoy each other's company, and sail away. many couples come here to take a ride around the lake, floating under the bridges, past the pavilion and waterfall. for a quiet getaway, it makes for a memorable and magical experience. located on 19th avenue, this grove is the place to wear your hiking boots, bring your family, and bring the dog

because it has so much to offer you and your loved ones. it is a truly hidden gem in the city. the part is rich with eucalyptus trees. long paths allow you to meander, perfect for dog walking in a wooded environment. >> i enjoy this base and the history behind it. the diversity that exists in such an urban city, the concrete, the streets, cars, we have this oasis of a natural environment. it reminds us of what san francisco initially was. >> this is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available to get you there easily. and the part is ada -- park is ada accessible.

there is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is the place to find some solitude from the city and appreciate what you share with a wonderful breath of fresh air. , an experienced this park and enjoy the peoples, picnics, and sunshine. this is a lovely place to take a stroll with your loved one hand in hand. located in the middle of pacific heights on top of a hill, lafayette park offers a great square a of a peaceful beauty. large trees border greenery. it features tables and benches, a playground, restaurants, and tennis courts. there are plenty of areas for

football, frisbee, and picnics. it is very much a couple's part and there are a multitude of experiences you can have together. bring your dog and watch the mean go with the community or just picnic at one of the many tables and enjoy all of the park has to offer. many couples find this is the perfect place to put down a blanket and soak up the sun. it is a majestic place you can share with someone you cherish. it is located along the 1 and 10 buses and is accessed from the 47 and 90 buses. it is ada accessible. for more information about reserving one of these locations, call 831-5500. this number is best for special events, weddings, picnics, and the county fair building.

for any athletic fields and neighborhood parks, 831-5510. you can also write us. or walking in and say hello at old lock cabin, golden gate park. and of course you can find more information and reach us at sfrecpark.org. >> good morning, and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of siewrvesz. supervisions. i am the char, aaron peskin, chained by mandelman and connie chan. our clerk is mr. young. mr. young, could you please make any announcements.

>> members will be participating in the meeting remotely. committee members will attend the meeting by video conference, the same as if they were physically present. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda, both on channel 26, and sfgovtv.org. i.d. 1464694909 you can call

415-655-0001, i.d. 1875186183. you may submit public comments by e-mail to myself, to the rules committee, and if you submit public comment by e-mail, it will be forwarded to the supervisions and it will be included as part of the file. that completes my initial comments. >> chairman: thank you. mr. young. >> item one is appointing seven members to the guaranteed income advisory group, indefinite terms. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. colleagues, this is an item pursuant to an ordinance passed by the san francisco board of supervisions to make recommendations around a growing movement not only in this city and in this country, but around the world relative to virtual

social security, if you will, guaranteed income for people of limited means. this is being done in conjunction with the treasure's office. i am delighted that we have eight remarkably qualifieds individuals. if you read their resumes and applications, as i did this weekend, it is quite an impressive group. eight individuals for eight seats, so not a lot of tough choices for us to make. i believe all of them are here to briefly testify, except for bena shimerali, who indicated he was unable to attend due to work commitments. three individuals need a residency waiver. and are there any questions or comments from committee members?

seeing none, why don't we open this up to the applicants. and i bet if i press a button here -- i cannot, for some reason, i'm note sure why, find my participant button. why don't we just open this up to comments from applicants. first speaker, please. >> i'll call on the first applicant on the list, which would be shirley yee. >> can you hear me? >> chairman: we can hear you. and i might have to log off and log on because my computer is giving me trouble. but i can hear you now, so why don't we proceed. >> good morning, chair

peskin and members of the rule committee. i'm the daughter of immigrant parents. my father was the mayor of detroit's chinatown. i have worked to address systemic inequities my entire adult life, and most of which is here in san francisco, focusing on wealth and inequity. i was with mayor breed's o.m.d. policies. i am an active member of a statewide group of g.i. pilots, currently diving deep into benefit waivers, and with g.i. policy advocates as well. i'm also here on behalf of norell knolls, for seat mr. five. not only is he proudly born and raised on treasure island, as a 28-year-old black gay man,

he knows what it means to live in the city. he shared just before he was born, his mom was coming out of homelessness. because of programs like section 8, they were able to afford to live on treasure island, and now he wants to help shape programs that give back to other san francisco residents. thank you for your time. >> chairman: thank you, shirley, and i did just get a notification that norel, as well as roberto, will be unable to attend. so thank you for speaking to norel's qualifications. next speaker, please, and i believe that that would be jacob denny, who has applied to seats one, two, or three. >> thank you, chair peskin and supervisions mandelman and chan.

throughout my life, i have experienced the ways in which our economy fails working people, and the ways our social safety net fails to meet all of our needs. i know what it is like to have to choice between fixing your car or paying your rent. as far as economic justice policy director, my goal is to identify interventions that make it so all people in san francisco are able to experience economic security and live lives of dignity. the uneven impacts of the pandemic, coupled with systemic racism and economic exclusion have made this a need more than ever. i want to better help the people who need it most. thank you for your consideration. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker, please. and i believe the next speaker would be james

pugh for seats one, two, or three. and a residency waiver would be required for james. >> i would like to thank the committee for considering my application for seats one, two, or three. i'm really excited at the prospect of applying my experience in this space, designing and implementing and guaranteeing programs in san francisco. in my five years working on guaranteed income equity, focused on understanding how guaranteed income can be structured to have a transformative impact for low-income americans, particularly in communities of color. and ensuring that these programs don't jeopardize other programs, like heat.

[inaudible] >> chairman: thank you. next speaker. and i believe that speaker would be gloria barry for seat four. >> can you hear me? >> chairman: yes, we can. >> good morning, chair peskin. i'm running for -- i'm applying for this because seat four must be held by a person who has personally experienced poverty while living in san francisco. i've lived in and out of poverty in san francisco from 1969 to '75, and periodically from '87 to 2015. right now i only have veteran compensation, which is a third of what is deemed low income. i've worked for a commission which doesn't always yield a living

wage. i also have been on welfare and food stamps before. when i was homeless, i was sent to shelters, and i lived in transitional housing on treasure island. i would not be able to live in san francisco now if it were not for the assistance i received from being a veteran. the demographics i reach out to is black, mexican, and white. i am 51 years old, and i'm a female and a disabled veteran. i served 13 years in the military. while in service, i went six months without being a dependent -- getting dependent benefits because (indiscernable). and at that time, i had to eat rahman every day because that is all i could afford. hopefully i will be recommended for this committee so my experiences realtime can

get with people with the economic experience, and together we can crunch some numbers and do something for san francisco that has never been done before. because it is time that we do something about the great disparity in wealth in the city. thank you. >> chairman: thank you, ms. barry. next speaker, please. >> i believe the next speaker would be elaine chavez -- >> chairman: i'm having crazy problems with my computer. i may have to -- mr. clerk, can we take a one-minute break. i would need to leave this meeting and get back in. this is not -- my computer is not working. so we will recess for one minute. if i can get back on in one minute. >> clerk: we will take a

one-minute recess. >> chairman: thank you. >> chairman: thank you. we will reconvene the rules committee meeting for today, february 8th. thank you. my technical difficulties seem to be better on relogging in. and the next applicant would be roberto vargas, who is not here. a residency waiver is required for said seat, and he has applied for seats four, five, six, seven or eight, and norel knolls was spoken to by ms. yee. and as i said, earlier, that will take us to our last applicant, elena chavez -- >> sorry, supervisor, i am

actually here. >> chairman: we're delighted you are here this morning. please proceed. i apologies. >> thank you, supervisions. good morning, committee members. my apologies for being late. i had to rearrange some things. i just wanted to share that, you know, my family has been in san francisco since 1946, moving to hunter's point from nicaragua. and, you know, i'm second-generation graduate of mission high school. and my entire career has been in serving low-income communities in san francisco, primarily in the non-profit sector, but also in the san francisco unified school district. i currently work at ucsf, leveraging ucsf resources to help get at both health and economic equity leveraging, or economic and science resources to support getting equity in san francisco.

that has included work on reducing diabetes and chronic disease disparities. but i've worked as a street outreach worker for the mayor's gang prevention program, at the real alternative's program "rap," and primarily served folks in the commission district and bayview hunter's point my entire life. i lived half of my life in bayview hunter's point before getting displaced there several years ago. so i would need a residency waiver. and i still have family members living in poverty, still have family members living in homelessness in san francisco, and family members recently out of homelessness by way of support through navigation centers, thankfully. so, you know, i would be happy to serve in any way i could serve san francisco. including in this

capacity. to bring to bear evidence, whenever possible, but mostly to bring a voice of advocacy and support for low-income communities in san francisco, poor folks in san francisco, who are the folks i identify with most, who are the folks i will advocate for and stand alongside with most in this role and in any role that i serve san francisco. so thank you for your consideration. >> chairman: thank you, sir. and sorry, i did not realize that you had joined this meeting. and i think that takes us to our last applicant, who is present this morning, elena chavez casada. >> good morning. i would like to thank supervisions peskin, mandelman,and chan. i'm an s.f. resident with

two young kids in this school district, in second and fourth grade, and i'm currently vice president of programs at the san francisco foundation, where we're singularly focused on economic inclusion in the bay area. while the foundation is the first place i've been in my career that explicitly holders racial equity as our north star, my entire career has been in advancing economic student for low income communities of color (indiscernable) and before then, in programatic work. as often is the case, as my career path is groundedin my personal backgrou, as a latin-american who has grown up in a mexican-american family. i watched my parents struggle so my four siblings could have

opportunities that they literally have never dreamed of. and this is what grounds me. equity is such a big concept and can often feel nebulous and elusive, and i think that is okay. it is on each of us to grapple with that elusive elusiveness and make meaning of it. i would argue the power of this guaranteed income strategies and why i'm so excited to be part of this is its explicitity. "the solution to poverty is to abolish it directly with a governeded income." and finally i want to say that san francisco has a history of innovation and and leadership and a pilot that sets the tone for cities across the city,

like the financial justice program and others, and i'm proud to say i've been involved in each of those programs and one way or another ocean over the years. it would be an honor to be part of this group, addressing those questions and informing the way forward. so thank you so much for the opportunity. >> chairman: thank you so much. as i said at the outset, this is the qualifications in any number of ways for these eight individuals is really remarkable. thank you, ms. casada for your applying and your work. are there any applicants i have missed? seeing none, are there any members of the public who would like to testify on item number one. i have been informed, after my computer glitch, that supervisor haney is

also on. so maybe before we go to public comment, supervisor haney, is there anything you would like to say this morning? >> yes, and i'll be very brief. first of all, i wanted to make sure you called on me, chair peskin, because i got my lighting on point this morning for you. and i wanted to thank you for considering these applicants, and thank you to member chan and member mandelman as well. as you said, this is an extraordinary group of folks. i'm really excited to see what they're going to be able to bring forward for our city. we worked very closely with a number of organizations and departments in making sure that we really did outreach to get these great groups of folks in front of you. so i am fully supportive of all of the applicants. i also want to quickly acknowledge treasurer sincearos to create this

advisory group. they will help lead efforts towards a great guaranteed income. and i want to thank you those from the human rights commission, and natalie foster and terry oli from the security project. and, this is part of a larger effort that is happening all over the country. there are dozens of cities, stockton, long beach, los angeles, new orleans, who are developing guaranteed income programs. so not only do we have these amazing people who will be serving on our advisory group, they will be sharing information with literally dozens of cities all across the country. and i think the outcome of this will be hugely important for our own efforts and our national efforts to attack poverty and economic insecurity. i want to thank you, chair peskin, and all of the committee members, and all

of the applicants. we will take what you provide as part of this advisory group, and make sure it is implemented for our residents, who are especially now can benefit from guaranteed income. >> chairman: thank you for your leadership. thank you for your leadership locally. great lightly, and to all of the applicants to whom i assume will be forwarded to this committee to the full board, good luck on your next nine months of work as december approaches and that report will be forthcoming. and i also note that this group will stay together pursuant to the law that the board passed, until january of 2023. so you'll all be together

for the next couple of years, and we look forward to your advice and your recommendations. with that, why don't we open item number one to public comment. >> clerk: yes, members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001, the meeting i.d. 1875186183. and then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, dial star 3, and a system prompt will indicate to you to wave your hand. mr. coe, do we have any members of the public for public comment today? >> mr. chair, we have no callers in the cue. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. colleagues, i would like to make the following recommendation, that shirley yee be appointed to seat one, with a residency waiver.

that jacob denny be appointed to seat two. that james pugh be appointed to seat three with a residency waiver. that gloria barry be appointed to seat four. that norel knolls be appointed to seat five. that roberto vargas be appointed to seat six. that vima shiraliz be ap appointed to seat seven, and elena chavez be appointed to seat eight. seeing nobody on the roster, mr. young, could you call the role on that motion. >> clerk: i believe that mr. vargas also needs a residency waiver. >> chairman: my apologies, mr. roberto needs a residency waiver.

soize would like to add that to my previously stated motion. >> clerk: on that motion, supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> i. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> i. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: congratulations. we'll hear that at the next meeting. thank you for your willingness to serve. with that, mr. clerk, could you please read the next item? >> clerk: just to be absolutely clear, i am getting questions. we have shirley yee who has a residency waiver, james pugh has a residency waiver, and mr. vargas, who has received a residency waiver. i wanted to state that for clarity. would you like to make a motion to excuse?

>> chairman: i think -- don't you have to read it before i make that motion. >> clerk: yes. i will read it. item two, motion appointing supervisor connie chan, term ending february 4, 2023, to the san francisco local agency formation commission. >> chairman: thank you, mr. young, and is our practice. we don't vote for ourselves on appointments, with the exception of internal racist present, where you can vote for yourself. with that, i would like to make a motion to excuse supervisor chan, who is the subject of this matter. can i take that without objection, victor? >> clerk: i will defer to ms. pearson on that. >> department city attorney ann pearson, all votes taken in this remote world need to be done with each member casting a

vote. >> yea. >> chairman: on the motion to excuse? >> on the motion to excuse, supervisor mandelman? >> i. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> chairman: supervisor chan, you have to leave for about one minute. can you please see if there are any members of the public who would like to comment, mr. clerk. >> clerk: if you have not already done so, please press star 3 to be added to the cue to speak. if you haven't already done so, a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. wait until it says you have been unmuted, and you may begin your comment. mr. coe, do we have any

members of the public for public comment? >> mr. chair, we have no callers in the cue. >> chairman: okay. we'll close public comment, and i would like to make a motion to forward this item to the full board with recommendation. >> clerk: yes, on that motion, supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan excused. chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion passes, without objection, with supervisor chan being excused. >> chairman: okay. why don't we let supervisor chan back into the meeting. that item is passed. and then, mr. clerk, please read the next item. >> clerk: yes. i just want to -- supervisor chan, are you back in the room at this time? >> i am, thank you, victor. >> clerk: thank you. next item is item 3:

"motion appointing supervisor hillary ronan, term ending june 30th, 2021, to the alternative member of the bay area executive board." >> chairman: once again, my computer is acting weirdly, but is ms. ronan here? i am not able to access the participant button. i don't see her. is there any public comment on this item? >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment should call 415-655-0001, i.d. 1875186183. and press pound and pound again. you may press star 3 to be added to the cue to speak. mr. coe, do we have any members of the public for public comment on item number three?

>> mr. chair, we have no callers in the cue. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. i would like to make a motion to send item number three to the full board with recommendation on that motion. a role. >> >> clerk: supervisor mandelman? >> i. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> next on the agenda is a (indiscernable). members of the public who wish to comment on this item, please press star 3. please wait until the

system in cades you have been unmuted. mr. coe, do we have any members of the public for public comment on this item. >> we have no callers in the cue. >> chairman: i would like to move this item forward on full recommendations. >> supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion passes without agenda. next on the agenda is item five, motion appointing supervisor safai, term ending january 1, 2024, to the behavioral health commission. >> chairman: my understanding is we need

to change it to the correct expiration date, to january 1, 2023. >> clerk: that is correct. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001, i.d. 1875186183, and then press pounds and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please press star 3to line up to three. mr. coe, do we have any members of the public to comment on this item? >> yes, i have one caller in the cue. >> chairman: first speaker, please. >> thank, mr. chair. in 2019, supervisor safai was appointed to this commission. when she resigned, she never had attended a

single one of the meetings of the commission, sending staff to participate in her place. this is not acceptable. and supervisor safai should not continue this. [inaudible] and that resource, paragraph 45: 70, "it is not permitted in ordinary assembly, unless the laws of the state require it or the charter or bylaws of the organization provide for it. it is incompatible with the characters" (indiscernable). if the law under which the organization is incorporated allows proxy voting, the adoption of this vote as parliamentary authority should be treated as sufficient

provision." my research shows that the state and local law and bylaws are silent on the issue. therefore proxy voting is prohibited in meetings of the san francisco behavioral health committee. section 1513d requires removal of commissioner after four unexcused absences in a 12-month period. i will ask for enforcement of this provision if supervisor safai does not attend the meetings of the commission in person. thank you, mr. chair. >> chairman: thank you for that comment and for letting us know. i will endeavor to reach out to supervisor safai to ensure he will attend personally. are there any any other members of the public for public comment on this item number five? >> mr. chair, that completes the cue. >> chairman: public

comment is closed, and i would like to formally offer the amendment to put in the proper ending date of the term of january 1, 2023. on that motion, a roll call, please. >> clerk: on the motion to amendment, supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion to amend passes without objection. >> chairman: and then i would like to make a motion to send the item, as amended, with recommendation to the full board. on that motion, a roll call please. >> clerk: on that motion, supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: mr. clerk, read items six through nine together. >> item six is a motion

appointing supervisor morguard, term ending june 30thn alternative to the bay area executive board. item seven is a motion appointing him to a term ending february 1, 2025. item eight is a motion appointing him to january. [inaudible] p. >> chairman: thank you, mr. young. i thought we should take these all together, because concerns the same supervisor have to augment the goldengate bridge board, and thank you,

supervisor melgard for jumping in, into these various important regional rhodes. roles. i don't know if you're there because my computer is giving me a fit. if you are there, supervisor melgard, you are welcome to say a couple of words. >> supervisor melgard is not currently on the call. >> chairman: i can't pull up the button, and i'll have to take my laptop to my incredible people and figure out what is going on. let's open up items six through nine. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide comment, call 415-655-0001, i.d. 1875186183, and then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already

done so, please dial star 3 to line up to speak. mr. coe, do you have any members of the public for comment at this time? >> mr. chair, we have no callers in the cue. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. colleagues, if there is no objection, i would like to make a motion to send items six through nine with recommendation to the full board of supervisors. >> clerk: chair peskin, regarding item number eight, i believe i sent a proposal to delete the executive director from the motion, because i believe that the goldengate bridge does not have such a director. >> chairman: we can do that. the official title is general manager, and his name is dennis mulligan, which is virtually the same as executive director. i served on that body for a period of time. we can find -- if you'd like, i can look up what the exact proper title is. >> clerk: i don't believe we need to name a

specific person. it is a direction to send a certified copy. we can send it to the goldengate bridge, and we don't need to address it to a specific person. >> chairman: and they have a clerk on their board as well, so relative to the amendments suggested to item number eight by clerk young, i would like to make a motion to strike the executive director, and we will just send it to the goldengate bridge board. a roll call, please. >> clerk: supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: and then, mr. clerk, i would like to restate my earlier motion, which is to send items six, seven, and nine to the full board.

and item eight, as amended to the full board with positive recommendation on that restated motion. a roll call, please. >> clerk: on that motion, supervisor mandelman? >> yea. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> yea. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: yea. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: thank you. i believe that concludes our business this morning. we are adjourned. [meeting adjourned at 10:43]

>> >> >> my name is jean alexander. i'm an attorney in the san francisco city attorney's office. i supervise the tax team, giving tax advice to the treasurer, tax collect or, drafting tax legislation. the thing i remember my mother telling me as a child is that you need to be prepared to take care of yourself and i knew that i wanted to be able to do something that i enjoyed. i didn't expect anybody to give me anything because nobody ever

gave her anything and i also i always saw her fighting for the things that she wanted in life for herself and for her children. >> my name is jasmine flores. i am working as an admin assistant in the city attorney's office. i have always enjoyed the tasks that i have been given. on the days i show up and work on my own is empowering. for me, happiness in being more involved in a person-to-person interaction. my dream jobs includes being a physician, paramedic, firefighter, working with animals with the public. on a personal level with self improvement. my sister is the biggest influence in my life because she taught me

to go forward with what makes you happy rather that what makes you the most money. >> i graduated from law school in 1972 at a time when there was a beginning to be an influx of women in the legal profession and tried criminal cases for about 10 years, treatment for delinquent operating programs, government budgets, analyzed fiscal legislation. i came to the san francisco city attorney's office and i have been here for about 12 years advising on tax matters. i did just about anything you can think of. some things that lawyers do and some things that lawyers don't do. >> i'm from the mission in san francisco. i have grown up there and i have lived there pretty much my whole life. living there, i do see other

women, some of them older, some of them look just like me like my age and a lot of them work nanny jobs, child care jobs, retail jobs. i don't know, it seems kind of like a reminder that you are kind of lucky to be where you are, i guess. just when you haven't gone so far at all. i want them to go on maybe go on an interview that's more challenging that they think that they can't get that job. you know, just to kind of challenge and surprise themselves when they get that job and feel better. >> there had been women practicing law for many years, but there were so few of them that a lot of the

issues hadn't really come into play and some of them worked out and some are still being resolved like equal pay and women in lawfirms and making sure women get fair assignments and in the decision making and working with law firms. i consider myself more of a beneficiary of all the women that fought really difficult battles along the way. >> >>streets.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> i wanted to wish you a best wishes and congratulations the community has shifted a lot of when i was growing up in the 60s and 50's a good portion of chicano-american chinese-american lived in north beach a nob hill community.

>> as part the immigrant family is some of the recreation centers are making people have the ability to get together and meet 0 other people if communities in the 60s a 70s and 80s and 90s saw a move to the richmond the sunset district and more recently out to the excelsior the avenue community as well as the ensuring u bayview so chinese family living all over the city and when he grape it was in this area. >> we're united. >> and growing up in the area that was a big part of the my leave you know playing basketball and mycy took band lessons and grew up.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> allergies welcome to the community fair it kicks off three weeks of celebrations for the year and let's keep everybody safe and celebrate the biggest parade outside of china on february 11th go best wishes and congratulations and 3, 2, 1 happy enough is enough. >> i grew up volley ball education and in media professional

contrary as an educator he work with all skids whether or not caucasian hispanic and i african-american cumber a lot of arrest binge kids my philosophy to work with all kids but being here and griping in the chinese community being a chinese-american is important going to american school during the day but went to chinese school that is community is important working with all the kids and having them exposed to all culture it is important to me. >> it is a mask evening. >> i'd like to thank you a you all to celebrate an installation of the days here in the asian art museum. >> one time has become so many things in the past two centuries

because of the different did i licks the immigration officer didn't understand it became no standard chinese marine or cantonese sproupgs it became so many different sounds this is convenient for the immigration officer this okay your family name so this tells the generations of immigrants where they come from and also many stories behind it too. >> and what a better way to celebrate the enough is enough nuru with the light nothing is more important at an the hope the energy we.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> relative to the current administration it is, it is touching very worrisome for our immigrant frames you know and some of the stability in the country and i know how this new president is doing you know immigration as well as immigrants (fireworks) later than you think new year the largest holiday no asia and china those of us when my grandparents came over in the 19 hundreds and celebrated in the united states chinese nuru is traditional with a lot of

meaning. >> good afternoon my name is carmen chu assessor-recorder i want to wish everything a happy new year thank you for joining us i want to say. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> (speaking foreign language.) >> i'm proud to be a native san franciscan i grew up in the chinatown, north beach community port commission important to come back and work with those that live in the community that i grew up in and that that very, very important to give back to continue to work with the community and hope e help those

who may not be as capable in under serving come back and give >> >>[music] >> i came in with her impression of what i thought it was good >> what i knew about auditing with the irs spears i actually

knew nothing about auditing >> in my mind it was purely financial. with people that audited the pain no one wants to deal with it >> now i see a lot of time explaining auditing is not just about taxes. >> oftentimes most students believe that auditing is only financial whereas when they come into a government environment we do much more than financial audits. we do operational audits that were looking at the operations of the department for economy and efficiency and effectiveness. >> when i hire an intern some of the things that i am looking for first of all is is this individual agile and flexible because i am our environment is so fast-paced and where are switching from project to project depending on what's going on in the government at any given time. >> primarily i didn't with audits on utilities management

across city departments. >> citywide this ods management audit was also been assisting with housing authority audit program >> the homelessness audit >> the it functions >> [inaudible] >> were starting any water on the department of public housing environment allows >> i also assist with the [inaudible] program. >> then additionally i really enjoyed having staff who have some critical thinking skills. because i believe the basis of auditing is not do you know how to audit, but to have critical thinking skills [inaudible] >> [inaudible] even though i've only been here for short time our quick in-depth analysis and research >> analytical skills there's a lot of taking enlargement of information a compacting it a very concise report because we've a big focus on [inaudible] if you're transmitting this information to the audience you need him to be able to understand it. >> so i work with the sparrow

program primarily. broadway stan abused [inaudible] they prepare me for full-time employment because i knew i could not to challenge myself in order to be an auditor. >> at the [inaudible] we are a content feedback and communication and they pointed out areas where i need to grow. >> one of the things i like about working at [inaudible] is that they actually give you quite a bit of autonomy i feel like kevin sage trusted me. >> the environment really [inaudible] to everyone feeling super collaborative and wanting to get to know one another. which i think at the end of the date is a better work environment and gives you a better workflow. >> i believe that a really is a great experience because it provides an opportunity to have a better understanding of how government works.

>> i think what i've learned so far is that every audit is unique everyday. different learning opportunities. >> the recordation we make in on its i can honestly go home at the end of the day and zack and treated [inaudible] in a better way. >> even of not familiar with what auditing is you should deftly find out. it's been really really awesome he was it turns out there's a whole world of auditing that i cannot open file oriented performance and [inaudible] and that's an exciting. audit is a lot broader than i ever knew before. >>

nawbility >> chairwoman: good morning. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the thursday, february 18th meeting of the government audits and oversight committee. i am supervisor dean preston, the chair of this committee. i'm joined by vice c