>> chairman: good morning and welcome to the rules committee of the sanfrancisco board of supervisors. i'm aaron peskin, joined by raphael mandelman and connie chan. our clerk is mr. victor young. mr. young, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes. due to the covid-19 health emergency, and to protect board members and the city, the committee room is closed. our members will be participating in this meeting remotely. the committee members will participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. we are streaming the number across the stream, comments during public

comment are available by calling 415-655-0001, and the meeting i.d. 1871554385, and then press ##. when connected, you will hearing the discussions, but you will be muted and in listening mode only. when you're item of interest comes up, dial *3. the best practices are to call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly, and turn down your television or radio. you may submit public comment via e-mail at victor.young.org. that completes my announcement. >> chairman: thank you. could you please call the first item. >> clerk: first on the item 1 one

(indiscernable) for the appointment of mary yee for the police commission for a period ending april 20th, 2022. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. i believe we have now clarified the seat issue, and that was addressed by the clerk. clerk and our council. and the offered motion is before us. i want to thank mr. yee for his willingness to serve, and he is available if we have any additional questions. if not, after public comment, i would like to make a motion to amendment the subject motion by removing the word "rejecting" in the title and in the move provision at line 13 and then send the matter forward. so with that, are there any comments from committee members?

seeing none, anything, nominee yee, that you would like to add since last week? >> no. just it is great to see everybody here again. thank you very much, and i'm looking forward to serving on the board. >> chairman: thank you. with that, why don't we open item number one up to public comment. >> members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001. the meeting i.d. 1871554385. then press ##. if you haven't already done so, please dial *3. the system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment. mr. barretto, do we have

any callers for public comment. >> mr. clerk, we have three callers and one in the cue. >> supervisors, the last time this item came before you,there was some amendments to be done and some confusion. and so i called in today to see, like, what really happened. and i'm happy that whatever needed to be done was done. so, mr. yee, you have a big responsibility with the side of the population that hasn't been represented. we did have a chinese woman before, and she did a very, very good job, but they removed her.

so i do, from time to time, call in for the regular meetings of the police commission. and what i see there is not good. and i know, mr. yee, you will do all in your power to ratify that. we need good representation, more so now, when there is a lot of discrimination. and the paradox is that we are a force to be reckoned with. so i will support you, as i said before, one million percent. thank you very much. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker. >> mr. clerk, there are no more callers in the cue. >> chairman: comment is closed, and relative to the last speaker, not to engage in a dialogue, but

there are floating seats on the police commission, but there was information in the committee packet that seemed to indicate, pursuant, that mr. yee was being appointed to a seat formerly held by thomas mazuca, which required that the individual be a retired judge or a lawyer with trial experience. while mr. yee is certainly qualified to serve on the police commission, he did not have those qualifications. but that has since been clarified by the clerk and the attorney general and city as been dealt with in the subject motion. with that, i would like to make the aforementioned motion to remove the words "rejecting" at line 13, and in the title, and on

that motion, mr. clerk, a roll call, please. >> clerk: on the motion to amendment, supervisor mandelman? >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: aye. >> clerk: the motion to amendment is adopted without objection. >> chairman: before we send this to the full board with recommendation, i want to note for the record that as with the next three items, this could have been sent to the full board as a committee report for tomorrow's board meeting, but that request was not forthcoming in time from the mayor's office, so this will go to the full board of supervisors not tomorrow, but a week from tomorrow. with that, i would like to make a motion to move the motion as amended to the full board with recommendation. >> clerk: yes, on that

motion, supervisor mandelman? aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: aye. >> clerk: the motion is recommended as amended without objection. >> chairman: thank you. can you please read items two through four together. >> clerk: yes. item number two is a motion approving or rejecting the mayor's nomination for reappointment of chris foley to the committee for a four-year term ending december 31st, 2024. [inaudible] >> for a four-year term ending december 31st, 2024. item four is a motion approving the mayor's nomination for appointment of lutia lackawarner for a four-year term ending december 31st, 2024.

>> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. colleagues, first, these are all appointments, as the clerk said, to the historic preservation pursuant to a charter amendment, proposition "j," from 2008, that i authored. i want to thank mayor breed and her staff for renominating two individuals who currently serve on the commission, as well as a new member for -- which is item number four, lutia, to the h.p.c. i want to thank chris foley and diane matsuta for their willingness to serve another term. with that, why don't we go to the nominees in the order that they appear on the agenda. mr. foley? >> thank you, supervisor peskin and thank you, rules committee.

i just had a short kind of thing i wanted to mention. that is, i really enjoyed being on this preservation commission for basically three reasons: one, is what the commission is for, and that is not only the buildings, but actually the people. and i learned that from vice president lakuta. thank you very much. i really enjoyed that, being around the buildings and the people of culture. and the ones i deputy know didn't knowabout way the racial equity commission. we actually work with them on issues. and i find those to be actually super interesting and things we need to work on. and lastly, legacy business. i think we need to work more on legacy business. we shouldn't just have legacy business legislation, but we should actually promote that from the standpoint of how do we build community and help these local businesses grow and thrive

through covid and amazon and everything else. and i want to give my last pitch out to (indiscernable) because we have all of these great places in san francisco and people. the perfect amount is the bar house. we should have a bar code so people can click it and see what these fabulous women did. so thank you very much, rules committee, for allowing me to speak today. >> chairman: thank you, mr. foley. i want to note for the record that mr. foley fills the seat that historic preservation professional, or a professional in a field of law use, community planning, or urban design. indeed, mr. foley does have very direct experience refurbishing a church that was vacant for

31 years, if my recollection is correct, and that was my first or second term in office, at least a decade and a half ago, so thank you for your work on that. and i also want to comment that, mr. foley, your form 700s are even longer than my own. with that, why don't we go on to ms. matsuda. >> thank you very much. good morning, supervisors. thank you for providing me with the opportunity to share information about why i would like to be considered for reappointment for the historic preservation commission. simply put: there is still a lot of things i would like to do over the next four years. my background and work experience are that of working with community, particularly communities where stories and life experiences are often not documented in mainstream documents, with documentaries and news articles. i had no ideas what words

and concepts like historic preservation or landmark preservation are. but i knew that those aspects of history needed a place equal to that of the built-in environment, and to brought to life and to be equal valued. that is what i've tried to do at the h.p.c., and would like to continue to emphasize. we have recently passed the racial and social equity initiative, which has allowed us do to, making key decisions a priority, and that is a priority. what it means in specific terms is that we can make it priority when we see there are certain areas of the city that have never been considered for landmark designation status. it means that we can make it a priority to pay more close attention to commercial corridors, where there have only been a few legacy businesses

nominated. most importantly, it means we can expand our view of what historic preservation is to those who may not own a nice building, or who haven't had a famous architect design it. history and culture are not just for the few. it is something all of us should value and embrace. i hope to create a more inclusive community, and feel we can do this with these tools in place. thank you for considering my reappointment. i'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> chairman: thank you, ms. matsuda, and i want to thank you and acknowledge your work with the planning department on the racial and social equity plan that i think will have, as you said, a meaningful impact. and you didn't toot your own horn, but i think the fact that you're the staff attorney for the asian legal outreach and have

long roots in jay town and continue to be the director of special projects through the japanese and cultural community center of northern california are added benefits. i again want to thank you for your previous service, and we'll be delighted to support your next four-year term. are there any questions for either of these two renominations, colleagues? seeing none, why don't we move on to ruchira nagaswan. >> good morning, supervisors. thank you so much for considering me as a nominee to the historic preservation commission. i'm a licensed architect with almost 25years of experience, and 20 of those have been in historic preservation, living in and working in san francisco. i am qualified under the secretary of the interior

professional qualifications for historic architecture. i studied architecture at the university of notre dame and came to san francisco in 1996. i worked in preservation for eight years here, and then i worked in santa barbara, building new traditional buildings, and then i returned to san francisco 13 years ago and continued in preservation. my breadth of experience included small buildings,residential and commercial and institutional campuses districts and landscape. i worked on iconic buildings, including the fairmount hotel, the asian art museum, and around the san francisco city hall when it was under seismic retrofit. i worked on kelly community in the tenderloin, the ruth williams bay view oprah house, and the lgbtq center on market street, which includes the oldest

building on market street. i immigrated to the united states as a 5-year-old and lived in colorado. at the time when i immigrated, there were only 100 indian families in the whole state. so i'm well aware of how it is to be a super diverse minority and also just the experience of being an immigrant. and from being an immigrant, i also traveled the world, thanks to my parents. and i saw a myriad of cultures and urban environments and rural environments, and it has really been part of who i am. and i want to bring that to the forefront and, like, work on the commission, and i want to bring the broader

perspectives of that, as well as all of my breadth of experience. i feel like i can speak to a lot of different types of projects and be able to understand the challenges that those projects have within the city and for the sponsors. my goal is to actually learn a lot from my honorable commissioners that have done so much in the community and look at what the needs are of the community and provide more of that encouragement. one of the things i'm intrigued with, as the commissioners are, is the racial and social equity resolution. i am inspired specifically by mural art and monuments in public spaces, and the ways in which oral histories can be brought into the context. and i really appreciate what commissioner foley said about q.r. codes. i think one of the most

respective ways to bring history to people is having them speak. and it would be amazing to have these places that we could go and just do the q.r. code on your phone and hear the histories of what these people and how they influenced this community. and san francisco is such a unique place, both for the social aspects, the diversity aspects, and our sense of responsibility to the community. and i really appreciate that planning commission, and the atc, who have brought that to the forefront in the past few years. with that, i thank you for listening. >> chairman: thank you. and the one thing you neglected to say is that, weirdly enough, probably a year after you got here, you and i met each other late at night at a kinko's

downtown, which you reminded me of when i interviewed you last week. and as i said to you privately, when i authored proposition j-13 years ago, and set forth a seat requirement for an architect meeting the standards for historic act architecture, i was thinking of somebody just like you. i'm delighted that you applied and that the mayor nominated you. and with that, colleagues, if there are no questions, why don't we open up items two through four to public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on these items should call 415-655-0001, i.d. 1871554385.

then press ##. if you haven't already done so, please dial *3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your public comments. mr. barretto, do you have any members of the public for public comment at this time? >> mr. clerk, we have three listeners and no people in the cue. >> chairman: public comment is closed. commissioner chan? >> well, thank you chair peskin. i had the chance, you know, to talk to all three commission candidates, and i really was impressed with their expertise, but really, most importantly, it is about their perspective and their care for our community. it is -- i have a chance

to observe historic commission meetings from time to time. it is always sometimes very challenging to watch, you know, that. how do you decide to preserve people's place and their marks in what is considered as history that we want to recognize and highlight, but in the 21st century environment. i think that it is challenging and it takes people that actually have the perspective about our community, our history. and i think all three of them, mr. foley, ms. matsuda, and ms. nageswan, really have those expertise -- i said that last name wrong. my apology. i just want to express my

support for them, and most importantly thank you. thank you for willing to commit yourself and recommitment yourself to this time in serving our city. thank you. >> chairman: vice chair mandelman? >> thank you, chair peskin. these are great candidates, and i also want to thank the mayor for reappointing commissioner matsuda and commissioner foley. i think ms. nageswan is going to be a fantastic commissioner. i would be remiss if i did not note that the mayor chose not to reappoint, here in hyland, and the person in hyland was doing important work related to the lgbtq on the historic preservation commission. there are now two seats that were formerly held by lgbtq folks, where that

representation will not be continuing. the mayor does have an opportunity with one remaining seat to don't the work that commissioner hyland in particular was doing, and i do think it is important that that aspect of representation be present on the historic preservation commission. mr. foley referenced the racial and equity work being done, and mentioned lion martin house. i think that is important work. and i think it is important that it is someone who will play a leadership role that ensuring that the queer history of san francisco gets its due. >> chairman: thank you for those comments. supervisor mandelman, i know that you and i are both helping the mayor's office find that person

with the required qualifications as set forth by the charter. and so i will is just publicly say that anybody who is interested and is qualified for that remaining seat should let that be known to supervisor mandelman or the mayor's office. or the mayor's appointment staff. so thank you for reiterating something that this committee, if i may, is committed to as well. with that, i would like to make a motion to amendment all three motions in the same way as we did in item number one, to remove the word "rejecting" in the titles, at line three, and remove the word "rejects" at line 15, so that all of these are changed to

approved. on those motions for all three files, mr. clerk, a roll call, please. >> clerk: yes. on that motion to amendment, supervisor mandelman? >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: aye. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: and then i would like to make a motion to send all three files, as amended, with recommendation as committee reports for hearing tomorrow at the full board of supervisors. on that motion, a roll call, please. >> clerk: on the motion to recommend as amended as committee reports, supervisor mandelman? >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin? >> chairman: aye. >> clerk: the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: congratulations, and we

will see all three of you tomorrow afternoon. >> thank you. >> chairman: next item, please, mr. clerk. >> clerk: next item is item five, hearing considering appointing two members' terms ending june 6, 2e immigrant rights commission. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. colleagues, as i did at the last meeting, given that one of my staff is an applicant for this non-paying position, out of an abundance of transparency, i think it is best that i, again, recuse myself from this matter. and with that, mr. clerk, does there need to be a motion to recuse me? >> clerk: yes, please. >> moved. >> mandelman. >> clerk: on the motion

to excuse supervisor peskin from voting, on that motion, supervisor mandelman? >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin is excused. >> thanks, everyone. good-bye, chair peskin. all right. so we heard from applicants last week. at that point, i think supervisor chan and i felt that we would benefit from having an additional week to hear from community and from applicants. during that time, i believe that commissioner rodwan decided that he would pull his application back. and so we have, again, applicants before us. i think before we -- unless supervisor chan has

any comments, i think we'll open this item up again to public comment on the commissioner appointments. >> supervisor chan does have something to say, so go ahead. >> i want to say it is very similar to what i said last time around. we're so fortunate to have so many applicants that are, you know, interested in this, and willing to serve. we're very fortunate to have that, especially for a critical issue around immigrant rights, given what we have been through in the last four years with the trump administration, and some of the conversation around sanctuary cities. i want to express my gratitude to everyone that has expressed their interest, including

commissioner ameral logan for his interest. and i think last, but not least, to also kind of just talk a little bit about our residency and waiver that is needed for some of the applicants for their seats. what i really find that in the recent years, especially, many immigrants and working families really facing displacement in san francisco because of the high cost of living, i see they have worked here and lived here for a long, long time, that have to make the financial choice to leave the city, but are still committed to serve us as a city. so i just want to, again, thank them, even with the need of residency waiver, they are still expressing

their commitment serving san francisco. i am always inclined to support those who have been living and working in san francisco for a long time but now require a residency waiver in order for them to continue to serve. so i just want to make sure that that is reflected publicly, and that that is my intent, to support the candidates that may require residency waiver today. >> great. thank you, supervisor chan. let's open his item up to public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001, i.d. 1871554385. then press ##. if you haven't already done so, please dial *3. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have

been unmuted and you may begin your comment. mr. barretto, do we have any members of the public to speak on this item? >> mr. clerk, we have two callers listening with one in the cue. >> chairman: great. i will add our speakers will have two minutes. state your first and last name clearly and speak directly into the phone. if you have prepared a written statement, you're encouraged to send a copy to our clerk for inclusion in the file. mr. clerk, let's have our first caller. >> hello, everybody. this is john davidson. i want to speak in favor of three of the applicants. [inaudible] transgender immigrants have to deal with a lot more.

and, of course, ryan, because he has been to restorative justice and is someone i have known for a while. also, i think, i wanted to devote most of my time to (indiscernable). yes, she has a democratic party inside her, but she is not involved in the city hall machinations. she is somebody who stands up for community, whether it is helping farm workers, whether helping getting the census, whether it is helping small businesses -- she has done it all. and she is also an lgbtq person, and she is a female, and we need more women on commission. and she is also a san francisco resident and a immigrant herself. let's just say that we're going to really lose out if we don't appoint her and yet appoint someone based on their political

connections. i really think you need to appoint her because her voice is necessary. thank you. i yield my time. >> chairman: thank you. mr. barretto, are there any additional callers? >> mr. clerk, that completes the cue. >> chairman: great. public comment is now closed. as you have observed a couple of times, supervisor chan, we have too many good applicants for the seats that we have. i want to thank everyone. i want to thank the current commissioners for their service and applicants for their interests. it's a tough decision, but i do have some suggestions, which i will run through, and supervisor chan, we can talk about how this bounces to you. i will propose that for

seat one we go with jesse ruiz navarro with a residency waiver. for seat two, jorego gime, for seat three, ryan gussavea, and seat five, with a residency waiver. for seat nine, alanhe fani, and for seat ten, suza, and for seat 11, lucia masters. that is my thought of a way to move forward. supervisor chan, i can turn that into a motion if you would like, or you may have different or alternative thoughts? >> i wholeheartedly support that decision.

thank you so much, vice chair mandelman, for walking us through that motion. i'm ready to vote for that. thank you. >> chairman: i will move that we forward those ap applicants for those seats with the residency waivers required and please call the roll. >> with recommendation. >> chairman: we recommendation. >> clerk: yes. on the motion to recommend those following appointments -- excuse me -- supervisor mandelman? >> aye. >> clerk: supervisor chan? >> aye. >> clerk: chair peskin is excused. the motion passes with chair peskin being excused. >> all right. thank you very much, mr. clerk. do we have anymore items

before us today? >> clerk: that completes the agenda for today. >> well, then, we are adjourned. >> thank you. >> thank you.

>> chairman: this commission meeting of wednesday, march 3, 2021, to order. this commission meeting is being conducted pursuant to the provisions of the brown act and recent executive orders issued by the governor to facilitate teleconferencing to reduce the risk of covid-19 at public