guns is something that a part of our strategy that we want to work with c.v.o.s and groups and public-health professionals to address. some of it is the police department thing but a big part of it we have to reach out to partners and partner with these other entities that i mentioned to really address this from a holistic approach. gun violence is -- i don't have to tell you. we know what gun violence has caused, particularly in some of our communities where disparities and they're underserved. >> thank you for that, chief. >> thank you. >> we're going to do a slight departure from what we have on the agenda. we're going to have come back to d.p.a.s report and the (inaudible) report. i want to go ahead and jump into item while, while we still have

guests with us. we have president shaman walton that has time constraints and i want to get him on the (inaudible), particularly interested in hearing his presentation on the strategy. colleagues, i'd like to go ahead, excuse me, i said item 4, i meant item 3. let's call item 3 and i want to hear from president walton first and we can get into the presentation. thank you for allowing me this point of privilege. so, sergeant young blood, i want to table this back to this item and the next item, sorry. >> line item 3, presentation of the california partnership for safe communities executive summary. understanding serious violence in san francisco 2017-2020

discussion. >> with that, hold on a minute, i want to recognize president shaman walton. >> thank you so much, president cohen and i just want to say good evening to the entire police commission and to everyone present. i appreciate the time to come and just really give a high-level overview about what our public safety plan is for district 10, which is very specific to district 10 in the entire district. i will say that most city departments, the mayor, and of course our chief of police have committed to supporting this plan and we're just excited about all the work that we're going to continue to do together to keep communities safe. so, again, it's going to be high-level. just talk about what the components of the plan are, what the focus is and how we arrived at our plan and a lot of folks who are present in this meeting are part of the plan and folks

who play a integral role in this work. our office worked on the plan and it was developed through a community plan process and we desperately needed to support. this work is -- if it's to be successful it will involve other partners and stakeholders that are involved. this plan brings together department heads, our street violence intervention and prevention program teams, and sfpd, our community based organizations, and other leaders and our focus is to create change, bring the voice of community to action. our plan aligns with our vision zero for violent crimes and homicides resolution that office office took the lead on which is supported by the entire board of supervisors. i'm going to go overcome phone apartments, including the police department and other take

holders as well. one is the increased role of the public safety that increase role includes bringing together our department heads and city leaders and also making sure that we have the resources that go into communities where we see the largest portions of violence or we see most shootings, we see high incidents are violence and making sure that we address them through the resource allocation from our public safety. we have work in district 10, violence prevention which works with all our violence prevention providers and community based organizations as well as community leadership that they have been hired and is working in community as we speak and our third action was to reimagine our community mobilization and piece planning efforts making sure that we're innovative

during this pandemic and also to working to provide support and resources for individuals who are out on the front lines every single day like our street violence and intervention as well as other folks working for cvo for forks in the community to keep them safe, keep folks from either being victims of violence or and intervention, mediation and truth negotiations and increased community partnerships and intervention and increase transportation and transit safety and culturally responsive service providers and i do want to add, we're working close with the police department to provide impact strategies for

the population that is now and looking at the data being more responsible for some of the crimes in terms of age and we know that we have older groups of the population now that are either victims of violence or perpetrators of violence so we're focusing on that target population through it work. we're asking the following to ensure the safety of every person and in san francisco in district 10, one violence prevention teams to provide street outreach to high and in risk youth impacted by violence and to continue to work with our street violence intervention and prevention team to build a response and awareness team to help provide services to our communities throughout the city. i think specific to the police department we're asking for officers to be stationed in hotspots throughout the district

and community officers that established positive relationships with families and neighborhoods and officers that think how they can support and be of a community before anything else and also, asking for the police department to deploy foot patrols and community violence prevention strategies through police presence and this means that we know in union square and peer 39 and other areas that were prioritized would have foot patrol and police presence and some believe is what we know the damage demonstrates and violent crimes exists and we need to have a shift and conversations in terms of making sure that our communities are looking out for. we're not asking for a police presence and only comes into community and response to incidents but we're talking about hopes and individuals who are part of our communities that are there spending time to get to know the people knowing the

parents, children and grandparents and coming to the events and it doesn't have to involve being in your uniform. that is a major part and major piece of our plan working with the police department and this past budget cycle, resources for district 10 to provide more jobs and more activities and more case management and services for our transitional ages and adults and we understand it will continue to go in circles. this plan was presented 20 every department head that place a role and presented to this police department in the leadership in the department. it also has and was signed off by all of our chiefs and chief of police and all of our captains and within district 10. i see captain danger field is here and captain moon also

supported and captain marin and we know that captain jones is also supportive of our plan. we did have a community conversation with community based organizations to talk about what their role is within the plan and we will have another last appreciate and public safety forum soon for everybody to provide input but i do want to thank sf, svip, sfpd and i want to thank the team from my office and all the communities that played a role. if you haven't seen the plan, i would definitely put a link in the chat to the plan. most of the folks here are participating in some way shape or forms and i will make sure that we get the plan out to everyone and the goal really to bring all this stakeholders who are involved addressing violence

and specifically to district 10. some of the themes and some of the strategies that in our plan are not rocket science and they're not new but they're specific to the district. they're definitely focused on the data that demonstrates and shows where most violent crimes occur and sometimes police deployment, sometimes we have not had strategies that focus on those areas the way that we should proportionately and we want to make sure that we do everything in our power to make it happen. >> does that conclude my presentation? >> yes, i am done. >> i would appreciate if you could, put a link in the chat. >> of course. >> that would be great. are there any questions that you have for us president walton. none?

>> thank you for being here, president walton. i am really happy that you are here and. >> thank you, i look forward to (inaudible). somebody's dog or something? the street violence intervention is something that i've been raising with the police and i was curious from a district supervisor and resident being on the ground have you found out to help really under this

successful in intervening in vile violence before it happens. >> yes, definitely been able to do a good job and preventing violence and in terms of mitigating response after action happens. they put their lives on the line 24/7 and i don't think people really understand what they have to do with as being on the frontlines. preventing people from killing each other and committing violent crimes, is a hard skill to develop but the most important thing is what i think anybody needs to understand is that these folks are putting their lives on the line effort and they're able to talk to individuals who may be perpetrators of violence and

talk to violence and we need to mediate any existing issues or concerns and make sure that we can stop things from happening and stop incidents of violence from increasing. they do this on a daily basis. sometimes i think they get a bad wrap because violence still continues to exist. i would say if we look at this year compared to last year, thank god, we're fortunate that violence crimes and shooting and homicides are down comparative to last year at this time. and so we're finding out ways to be innovative during this pandemic. and it's been a major piece of that and we all got work to do in this. that goes for our other c.b.o.s and police departments

and that goes for other elected leaders in the city. we all have a role to play but our team and folks who are on the ground put their lives on the line everyday and so they do make an impact. it can't be quantified from how we see hour programs. >> thank you very much, supervisor. >> i'm trying to put the plan in the chat but i don't know how to work this thing. >> it's up there. we have it. >> ok. >> post it on the commission website to people can also view it as well. >> thank you. this webex chat is messing with me. thank you supervisor walton for your leadership and as a resident, here in the district as well and also lead are a community based organization, very well versed and i want to

share with folks, it looks like district 10 public safety form is taking place monday, march 22nd. our own chief scott will be there, president walton and also district attorney. if we can, pass that information to the commission and maybe get it up so that folks can attend from the district as well, too. >> that hot off the press. >> it was like 27 minutes ago. >> inside scoop, huh. >> social media. >> president cohen: that's really good to hear. thank you for sharing that. it's news to me. if there are no other questions, commissioners -- president walton, thank you for stopping by and making a presentation. you are welcome to hangout. we are going to have a good presentation now from the california partnership of safe communities executive summary. and are you ready to go?

i will turn the meeting over to you. welcome. >> that's already. i want to thank president walton for coming and for the rentation and to support you and thank you for all you do. >> president cohen: great. all right, thank you. we're going to go to (inaudible). >> so, president cohen -- >> president cohen: i'm sorry, chief scott. >> thank you, president cohen. i'm going to open up and my introduction is going to be very brief because i'm excited to pass the baton to the california partnership. let me open up with high-level over arching goals of what we're trying to accomplish in this partnership. i'll take five seconds to say that i told you this privately, thank you and the board of supervisors from a couple years

ago for helping us get the funding to establish this partnership and this work. it happened through a budget request when you were on the board so i want to thank you for that. that has really i think, got us started in a positive way so thank you for that. when we -- the vision for this partnership, we're to do three things and it's always the bottom line. do we want to reduce shootings and touchdowns? do we want to reduce victimization while statement reducing arrest for community members at the highest risk of violence and we want to build trust between the san francisco police department and communities most impacted by violence. >> president cohen: chief, i need to take public comment. >> sorry. >> president cohen: i know you were getting worked up. hold on. hold on. >> president cohen, was this still part of agenda item number

3, if so we can take it after the chief's speech. >> president cohen: yes, this is all part of agenda item 3. >> no problem. >> president cohen: let her rip, chief. >> and the three things that are over arching goals and the california partnership is a locally and nationally recognized expert on the design and implementation of public safety strategies to hit those three goals which they termed and we termed the triple bottom line. again, reducing gun violence for shootings, including homicides, reducing victimization, for most at risk and while at the same time reducing arrest or the community members and communities that are at the most risk of this type of violence. we hope to build trust with communities most impacted by violence. a couple things before i turn this over, that is a snapshot of

our city's homicide from 2017 to mid 2020 and also the last 18 months or so of shootings that cause injuries and as a part of this work as you will see in this presentation, we wept out and persuade a grant the cal v.i.p. grant and really the grant was meant to enhance a very work at you talked about commissioner hamasaki tonight and president walton and that is intervention and services and getting services to the people who are most at risk we're giving most of it away. we can help that work get to the finish line if you will. again, also the last thing i want to say is part of this plan is to ship our focus away from the quote-unquote gang investigations and really the

focus is on preventing shootings which is say big part of what the analysis tells us that is a problem and people involved in one group or another but it's a social network of adult men is that is the primary driver of this problem so you hope you all will appreciate the work that has gone up into this analysis up and to this point and talk about next steps and hopefully we'll be permitted to have another meeting and present on those next steps in detail and with that i would like to turn this over to the california safety partnership of state communities. >> thank you chief scott. good evening, everyone, thank you inform commission president cohen, commissioners, president walton i appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight to present the findings of the office of violence and if i could ask for the presentation to be put up.

i'm joined, my name is von crandell from i'm joined tonight by my colleagues senior partner reagan cunningham and also our frequent collaborator dave mohammad of the national criminal justice reform. we are going to go to analysis of key findings and and for violence intervention and prevents events in the city, next slide, please. a lint about our organization, we're not a group we work as a collective and we come from a array of backgrounds and we have roots and community and problem oriented policing and reentry and as a chief said, our goal in the work that we do is to help cities advance. reduce violence while reducing the use of arrest, improving

outcomes for people impacted by violence and building police trust. we care about research tells bus this problem and what works to make progress on it. to do this, we help cities and departments develop a variety of strategies and capacities and we always start with a type of analysis that we're presenting tonight and and when we do that, for two primary reasons. one is the approach that works best around reducing serious violences in a ray of partners working together and president walton spoke to that as did many other commissions tonight and callers if what we observe is different key stakeholders have different ideas about the nature of the problem so it's different align them around a shared solution. so chief referred to this already. these are our goals and the other piece that i would mention now is we also have a research partner and scholar who has done work nationally and

internationally and police reform strategies and part of what dr. drag a will look at historically what strategies have helped san francisco in the long-term and reducing the use of arrests and acknowledging that there's significant strength already at work in the city of san francisco and we want to build on those through this work. in the interest of time, next slide, please. next slide. so what is a problem analysis. a well developed menthol odd gee used developed over the last 25 years and it's been used in dozens of cities and essentially seeks to do two things, establish a common understanding of the local vinens probably so that community, civic and criminal justice can reduce violence and identify and a community who had the greatest risk of violence so we can taylor interventions to help

them reduce that risk and again while minimizing the use of arrests. this particular analysis with all homicides in the city of san francisco and every homicide from the beginning of 2017 to the middle of 2020 and all injuries shootings from the beginning of 2019 to the middle of 2020 and that represents 471 unique individuals whoa are directly shot or named as suspects in shootings their homicides. next slide. next slide. so, when we started this analysis, we look at what are the long-term trends in terms of violence in a major city. this is the long-term in san francisco. there is a significant increase in the homicide rate in the late 2000s that somewhat unusual. most cities were peaking in the mid to late '90s and there's a sustained reduction from 2009 really through the present or

through 2019 and so this is part of the value of research partnership with dr. braga. in light of this trend so the long-term use of both misdemeanor and felony arrest in san francisco is a large reduction over the last 30 years of 72% and so when we come in and we do this work in a variety of cities and we see a major city that is reduced homicides and the use of arrests, we say there's something important going on there that we want to understand so that's general con tech. when we do the analysis we looked at all the homicides in the city of three and a half years and all the non fatal shootings in a year and a half. and we're looking at them from different angles. what can we learn about the folks involved? are they coming to the contact of justice system and if so how. where do these things take place and what are the motives that drive the violence and why is it happening? the first summary findings is we

look at those and this isn't essentially what we find. suspects and victims of homicide in shootings are older adults with the history and violence impacting men of color and it's been discussed and at length tonight and the average sage of victims of suspect of homicide are 37. 70% have previously been arrested an average of 15 times at time of homicide. with we lock at non fatal shootings, the age is younger but the average age is 28-years-old for anyone involved in a shooting in san francisco and they have been arrested 13 times and 70% of the victims and suspects and 80% of the shooting victims are black and latino men even though they have the city's population. this age distribution is three points and i'll be brief.

no one sunday the age of 18 who is involved in homicide and san francisco during the three and a half years. under this grown bracket, the 18 to 35-year-old age range is where gun homicide victimization concentrates. when we look to the 35 and older age bracket, this is primarily non gun homicides that have a connection to various street disorder conditions that we'll talk about more in a moment. this is the same distribution for non fatal shootings and it just illustrates very few people involved in shootings are under the age of 18 and everyone is between the ages of 18-35. next slide. this is the data on where the disparity data comes from and in terms of homicides, shootings, the impact on black and latino

men and relative to the city's population. 70% of homicide victims in suspects are previous known to the justice system and 80% of suspects they were 35 years on average and they averaged 15 prior arrests and nine and a half were felony arrests and 1/5 people who murder someone or murdered are on probation supervision at the time. this is just a visual representation. and when we look at probation supervision of folks involved in shootings as victims are suspects, we see almost two and five shooting suspects are on probation at the time of the shooting incident. so, that is what do we observe when we look at who is involved in shootings and homicides and we start to analyze the motives and drivers and we're interview every homicide and shooting as

well as an array of knowledgeable staff and why are these things happening and two things emerge from that analysis and a central role for dynamics and the chief reference and a majority of gun homicides, 50% to 70% and non fatal shootings are driven by or connected to street route dynamics and homicides and non fatal shootings are to a complex mix of street homelessness, and drug market dynamics in the tenderloin. they overlap to some degree and they are different and require different approaches and different sets of take holders. this illustrates the point in a couple of ways. another interesting finding has a much lower preportion of gunshot homicides and most major cities and most major cities would be in the 90% fewer than 60% of homicides with the

firearm and we see group connected homicides tend to be gun homicides and street disorder connected homicides tend to have this variety of implement and circumstances. next slide. these are motives and what we primarily see is in homicides that involve high-risk social networks, those are primarily driven online going cycles of retaliation as the chief and where individuals in high-risk networks are using violence as a way to resolve disputes. and the disorder related homicides it's more diverse and some robbery and incident dispute and aer number of drug related disputes. and when we look at fatal and non fatal shootings combined there's within gun homicide and non fatal shooting dynamics. it's the same dynamic and what we find is 50 half to three

quarters of those fatal and non fatal shootings are someone associated with a high-risk social network as the victim or suspect or both and that 90% of those individuals are black and latino men and 75% between the ages of 17 and 35. we see group dynamics do have this role in driving gun violence and that's the central finding in most major cities, there's a concentration in high-risk social networks and the evidence is clear at this point that actually the char characteristics it's more than anything in my life and so it's really important if we're going to taylor interventions to have these social network dynamics in mind and when you look at san francisco, it's a really small number of groups and networks that are impacted by and

affected by this problem, it's about 12 city wide and the individuals in those networks are 18-35 on average, black and latino men with extensive justice history, involved in groups that are in on going conflicts of patterns of alliance and conflicts and this has three complications we'll return to at the end of the presentation. one is reducing shootings, requires a sustained focus by the police department on this dynamic and second is implications for a range of other partners and justice system and community actors, probation, pa roll, district attorney, and community intervention partners and lastly, as in most major cities, we think the city would benefit from a investment in this highest risk population. most cities invest most of their appreciate and the evidence is strong and if we want to reduce violence in the near term, the

place to do is in investing in this older and highest risk population. we asked the police department and knowledgeable investigators to help us understand what were they concerned about in terms of violence in neighborhoods as we map neighborhoods but what emerged were these patterns of relationships between groups and networks. many of them are informal and fluid but they were identified able. when we look at shootings and homicides over time, they did connect back to these patterns of relationships. so these are actual groups and group relationships and they've been anonymized for this purpose and this represents the inner connections between bayview, ingleside and the northern and park districts.

when we cross reference, it goes back to the point of concentration of risk is tight. it's a small number of folks who are extremely high-risk and we have to effectively engage and support them if we reduce retaliation shootings and so when we look at all these networks, it's a small number involved in most shootings and homicides as victims and suspects or perpetrators or both. so it's really these six groups that are involved in three or more homicides that are disproportionately impacted by the problem. over time, it shows us this problem is very fluid and dynamic. and as a set of partners who are working on this from the justice system side or the community intervention side it's important to stay on top of the evolution in violence because in any given quarter, who is at highest risk changes. and if we want to prevent retaliation shootings, we have to be organized around the

nature of the problem as it exists. i'm going to -- the last finding is essentially the challenge of the tenderloin. and we know this is been a durable problem and a complex problem for the city for a long time and it involves a variety of different kind of motives and dynamics and i know the city has been working on it for a long time. recent research suggests that paying attention to the physical disorder features of neighborhoods can help reduce violence in those places but the violence issues merit a longer conversation obviously than just these talking points. i'm going to ask in the interest of time, i know that i'm running out of time so i'm going to go quickly through these spacial analysis and we'll come back to the conclusion. this is all homicides and shootings during the sample period. this is spacial concentration. this is the concentration in the

tenderloin of the non dynamic group homicide. this is the representation of the homicides that are driven by group dynamics and we see the impact on the bayview and the mission. this is drug related streets and homicides. this just illustrates the complexity of the tenderloin dynamics and motives in violence in this area. so, coming back here i'm just trying to check to see if my colleagues, david, are you on still? he had a constraint. well, i'll wrap-up. so the implication here is i think there's a longer conversation that we would recommend policymakers have about the city's investments in prevention work in -- it's a

older population and that's where the opportunity dies to reduce violence in the near term. so, in terms of the next steps, if you would like to they are taking the grant funds and use particular to hire new staff and we'll work with high-risk folks and there's roll out of the findings planned in the near future. that concludes the presentation. i appreciate the time and we would be happy to answer any questions. >> hold tight. i just want to just set the context about what we're doing here today.

you heard several weeks ago we were asking the chief for the what is the strategy for the bayview station and what with the uptick in crimes. you heard it from his report here. this is the presentation that is helped add context and some data to the crisis that we have at hand. i wanted to make sure that we have a full picture of a presentation tonight. not only did we hear from the california partnership but i also want to acknowledge that we've got, in addition to the chief representing the department, we also have danger field, the outgoing bayview captain and we just two weeks ago, we stepped away from his duty and then also i want to welcome captain david moran, i apologize if i miss pronounce your name, but who has been the

bayview station captain the last two weeks. i want to introduce those who will be also making brief remarks a little bit later on this item and a little bit later on in the presentation. so, i want to just kind of frame things for you so you understand the conversations and the dynamics and who these players are that are making these presentations so we've heard from an analytical perspective and do you have questions for mr. crandel and his team and i want to recognize reagan cunningham who also joined with us. commissioner hamasaki, i see your name on the chat. would you like to speak?

>> good evening, thank you for the presentation. i think it's very helpful. we've all been kind of talking around each other and around this information and trying to understand better what you just laid out for us which are, what are the dynamics at play and who are the individuals involved and then most importantly like how do we intervene most effectively and the chief said at the beginning of the evening to prevent it before it happens and not do this in a way that policing have traditionally been associated with, you know, the

heavy-handed, i don't know if you heard the call earlier about the gang task force, and some of the concerns we've heard from the community. so, you know, do you have any thoughts about how do we strike that right down between svip and i think -- i lost my powerpoint real quick but the new street, the violence intervention, the sfpd program, do you have thoughts about how to strike the right balance in a way that really achieves those goals? >> that's an excellent question, commissioner. i would say i think the chief framed it at the beginning. i think that we see a couple of things from kind of national research and best practice. one is, working together as a partnership is going to work better than people working in silos. the second thing, this is where it gets difficult, focusing together on folks who are at

high-risk now and in the near term is much likely to reduce shootings than thinking about working on a basic prevention again with a 10 or 15 year horizon. it's not they're worth doing, they're just not going to work in the near term. in the near term, we will prevent the violence that itself is a toxic source of damage in inhibits our prevention efforts. so i think in the context of that, i think we really have seen overtime is, as much as is possible. we should be leading with focused, well resourced, intersection work with a harm reduction goal that can invest a very intensively and long-term support for a small number of individuals that have labor intensive work. it's not -- i would distinguish it from areas out reach in canvassing, it does have value but for the long-term risk reduction, focusing in what we call life coaching but you can

refer it to intensive case management and it's a model that's been developed in a number of places and the focus is on changing decision-making and particularly in the near around risk. in the long-term around access and opportunities and support. so i think leaning into that is and the chief and will aren't many examples of cities transforming this issue with no role for police. and so, it's not everyone likes that, but if you take an honest read of the research, there's not an important role and there are certain things when violence reaches a certain level in dynamics, intervention workers don't have guns, they can't use the state of the power to intervene so as incredible and persuasive as they can be, there are certain situations where having a partner that can come in and settle things down and cool them off so that workers do their thing is important.

so, in summary, i would say folks on high-risk and folks in the near term work together and emphasize and resource intervention as much as you can, but also be realistic there's a role for focus and surgical enforcement when necessary to prevent retaliation shootings. >> right. my question suggested that otherwise and my intense and i'm a criminal defence attorney so i've worked with a lot of young people that are involved in the violence and they have programs in richmond and the interventions and what was that called? >> the austin neighborhood safety. >> yes. and devon and did you find that to be successful? >> yes, i agree.

it is very similar to what i just described and i think there's organizations in massachusetts also in baltimore and there's advanced peace, there's intervention work in los angeles and if you look inside of the in risk work that svip does and other good organizations do, these are the common elements. very high-risk folks need a lot of support and it needs to be focused around harm reduction in the near term. >> i had the role of dealing with some of the young people that i had dealt with (inaudible) actually spoke about how it had impacted a certain way and i just thought that seemed like something that would be meaningful and so i'm glad that is (inaudible) is confirmed by your research as well.

so thank you, very much for the presentation tonight. >> president cohen: fantastic, thank you. i don't see any other names in the chat. vice president elias. >> thank you, president cohen. i wanted to thank you for presenting. we were given an opportunity to see the presentation and what i would ask is perhaps you can just briefly touch on some of the important issues you raised during our meeting which was the cultural competence part of this and how that is a new approach and new area that the or lens you are going to be using when trying to address these situations because before, i don't think that that piece was part of the puzzle and it's a very important part, which you know, you touched on last time and we had discussed and i think it's really important for the community to understand.

>> sure. reagan, if you would like to weigh in here please do. i also want to acknowledge, david mohammad that leads the intervention side of our work was here but then also is in fact involved in another virtual meeting around these issues for another city right now. i think that there's a connection to the conversation we're just having, which is, i do think we need to meet highest risk folks where they are and it's critically important to have svip and others and creditable messagers who can connect with, build relationships and build trust and have a structured engagement with folks over time with the goal of helping them make different decision that's will reduce their risk as a pre-condition for access to stable life and dignity in the long-term. particularly in diversities like san francisco, cultural competency is essential. reagan, would you like to chime in. >> i would just add to that. when we talk about cultural

competency, i think obviously that's on all sides, right. so it's from the law enforcement side as well as the intervention side. working with high-risk individuals is that their needs are very immediate and so a job programs i think are great and it's something we should strive for because we want people to have their lives stabilized. at the same time, it's very challenging to be able to focus and the jobs program or show up on time if i know someone is trying to kill me. so, when we talk about the work of the life coaches is very similar to what was done in richmond, oakland, sacramento and a couple other cities, it's how can i help you as a life coach deal with that issue? someone trying to kill you. do we need to relocate you? do we need to squash some of this beef in the street. that's going to make it very difficult for me.

if i know someone is trying to kill me or kill my family, it's going to be difficult for me to be successful in a job programs or an educational program. all of those things are on the table in terms of jobs, educational substance abuse all of that, it's on the table. what we're trying to do is make this shift towards how to equip life coaches with the training they need to they can deal with that issue of someone trying to kill me and my family right now. i need to get out of here or out of this situation. when we talk about cultural competency, it's from lots of different lenses. policer services and i want to hone in on that issue of when we're talking about very high-risk folks they have a lot of serious intense needs and so we need to be able to advance point where they are and where they are a lot of times is a very precarious place. we need to be able to provide them resources so that they can

navigate through that successfully, in partnership with the life coach they trust. >> president cohen: great. i look forward to mapping the plan for san francisco. any other questions? >> near dejesus. >> ok, perfect. >> i'm fine. thank you. >> president cohen: i had a whole bunch of questions here. >> if i can, madam president, i have one question. >> president cohen: i'm sorry, i thought you were complete. >> thank you. thank you again for that presentation. i think when we have an opportunity to analyze and really look at data, i think we begin to tell a different story. and i just want to say thank you to our arturo and guy and rob because these are individuals on the ground doing the work when we think about the data they're seeing it on a daily basis and they have for years and decades. thank you to them and their work. i want to make sure that we

really up lifted actually what we just heard i think the two digest things i took away from this, was ensuring that as the department were really collaborating with those community-based organizations in with community on true intervention when it comes to violence and secondly, one of the things we want to up lift too is the resources needed to ensure that we can do the intense work that really needs to be done. i just wanted to again say thank you for the presentation. very well thought out. to me, it wasn't anything that we didn't know but now we're putting numbers and quantifying it and putting it in a different light many of as we know when we create these plans and we create strategies that it doesn't just sit on the shelf. we actually implement what it is that we're hoping to do. >> president cohen: does that complete your remarks? anyone else? all rightment i want to dive in

with a couple questions for the cal partnership. just based on the presentation. a couple of my initial thoughts, you split your analysis of homicides and shootings and i'm curious to know, how are you classifying shootings that result in homicides? that's the first question. specifically, in other words, how much do these two datasets overlap? >> they don't overlap. a homicide would just be a homicide. >> president cohen: ok. >> so the non fatal shootings would be shootings with injuries where a body is struck but the person does not pass. >> president cohen: so, does shooting data influence the homicides statistics? >> no. it would be counted as two separate incidents. >> president cohen: maybe you can speak to how -- speak on how you differentiate groups and gangs. you have been to enough

commission meetings and you've heard public comment. there's one mother in particular, mrs. brown, that calls in that is highly sensitive and she's raises a very well issue. we're talking about groups versus gangs and it's a point that you highlighted in your presentations and i don't think i've heard a presentation where that distinction was made. i'm in agreement with you. could you just talk about the -- whether that distinction matters for the purpose of your analysis? >> it's such a excellent and difficult question. there are two aspects to it that we challenged at the time. one aspect is very real and legitimate civil liberty concerns around what it means to be labeled as a gang member. and i think those are the not unique to san francisco, that's been a nation wide issue and it's been state wide issue with cal gangs. when someone gets identified as a gang member, how do you get purged from a list, you know,

cases where gang enhancement are used inappropriately and so, it's a -- it's not a very direct way to focus on violence and it has collateral concerns. it's where folks at lower risk and may not be involved in violence will be grown into the way they want so that's one truth and i think the other truth that were challenged to recognize is, all the interceptions workers and good street cops in the criminologists kind of agree at this point. most gun violence does come back to folks who are living high-risk life styles and socially connected to each other and use violence as a way to resolve disputes that can get retaliation and turn into conflict between groups. most of those groups are probably not gangs, by statutory definition, but they are

involved in identifiable patterns of conflict and they're resulting in people being shot and murdered. so, in some sense, i think the chief identifies the crux of the issue which is, if we approach this from the perspective of our goal is to reduce violence, and not worry so much about whether things meet the statutory definition of gangs, that's the scene that can appropriately respect both perspectives. >> president cohen: ok. so, also in your presentation, you noted that a number of prior arrests is a key indicator for potential involvement in shootings and homicides. do you have any recommendations for how involvement with the criminal-justice system could be reduced before shootings and homicides occur? >> that's a great question. reagan, please chime in. what the analysis just shows is, at the point where someone was

murdered or identified as a suspect or similar with a shootings, how would they already come into the context of the system. it reveals, as it does in most major cities, that there's a lot of opportunities for intervention that we're missing and part because i do think that different actors have different ideas about risk. and i see that certainly emerge today some degree in the probation data which is again very common, it's not uncommon at all. but i think part of what the opportunity of this work presents is for the community actors to work more closely so that those opportunities are not missed. >> president cohen: in other words, how does the restorative justice relate in this entire conversation? >> well, that's a complex question. >> president cohen: i've had a lot of time to think about this. >> yeah. >> president cohen: since monday, since our briefing. >> can i jump in on the restorative justice.

>> president cohen: yeah. >> president cohen, restorative justice programs really get at the reducing recidivism part of this equation. and the ones i've seen and been involved in is really the gap, the missed opportunities that vaughn is talking about, they're identified with an effective restorative justice program. for instance, there's wrap-around services and you know, there's programs that deal with youth and programs that deal with adults and different areas of the country. but they've pretty much all had the basic construct. they're services that are wrapped around that individual and mainly that individual and their network, particularly their families, that are aimed towards reducing them reentering the criminal-justice system by

recidivism and there's victim offender restitution where the victims also buy into this because there's this reconciliation that did happen in any restorative justice program, where the victim feels vindicated and validated as well. so, there's a lot that goes into research in terms of part of the reconciliation is somewhat therapeutic for the person committing the crime, but it's also therapeutic for the victim that's been victimized. and in an ideal situation, those things work together and they work to reduce recidivism and everyone in a perfect way walks away better for it and satisfied that things were done the way they should have been done. [please stand by]

>> and that goes to my baby captain dangerfield. is it maron? how do you pronounce that?

>> it's maron. >> president cohen: please. everyone, this is interactive. >> [inaudible] >> president cohen: okay. so i'll continue with my questions if no one else has any. >> [inaudible] i do have something to say. >> president cohen: please. what was yours. >> i just want to comment on what reagan cunningham said about the high risk individuals being able to function at a normal pace among the general population and she's absolutely right because the individuals who we actually deal with are high risk and it takes a different kind of approach to deal with them in a working capacity. so i don't really think it's our time to express what we do yet, but i just want to agree

with reagan cunningham with a about what she said and the type of individuals and the type of normal lifestyle they need to live in to live with society. i'll just wait to give my piece on the outreach and i'll let you all continue on. >> president cohen: okay. if you have anything you want to comment on, this is definitely something i want to slow. so i have another question. this is related to slide 30 and 32. let me see if i get my question up so slide 30 to 32 talks about the analysis responsible for shootings and homicide. i just want to note and make sure i'm understanding this correctly. not all of these groups are identified in your network analysis. so aside from the baby slide a

and slide b, with do these groups operate? >> commissioner. i'm not sure if i'm understanding your question. you're comparing the diagram with the bar charts? >> president cohen: yeah. >> so the difference between those two things would be that not all of the identified groups and networks are involved in violence. again, this was a question to a cross section of the police department that were identified as being knowledgeable about the position. and so we asked them to back for us the way they understood the city and then we took that information and preference for what the homicide shooting investigators told us about the motive behind the shootings and the people involved. so what it illustrates at least

for us, it's a small number of groups involved in violence. not any one group is involved in violence. that's why you don't see a one to one representation. >> president cohen: okay. >> does that answer your question? >> president cohen: it does answer my question. i've got a question for you, keith. on slide 33, it covers a covers a little bit about the tenderloin. about the shelter-in-place. the program is aimed at providing shelter to individuals experiencing homelessness, and, i'm curious to hear your perspective on how has public safety, how has the public safety dynamic changed since that time? i guess it's actually just a year. but i wanted to hear your

perspective. >> well, i think one of the positive impacts with the city and support with keeping individuals that are unstable because they're unhoused, you know, food insecurities and housing insecurities. when the city set up the safe site right across the street from city hall, it allowed for some stability for people, you know, shelters had shut down because of covid and so people were hurting. people were suffering. how that impacted i believe some of our violence dynamic in a positive way, the stabilization and the support that people were receiving during that particularly the ones that were fortunate enough to be in those safe sleeping sites or get housing. i think it helped. i think it helped with that dynamic. now, we still have the dynamic of the drug sales and the drug

dealers and part of when some of these things first happened, there was a lot of call for us to be involved in making sure the drug dealers weren't preying on people who were going there for help and that was causing some violence and sexual assaults and alike. here's how the great thing about this community partnership worked. is one of the main sites in the tenderloin. what you saw from policing and us having to be there or being called to be there to commit a community center support system that really kept things peaceful and orderly for the most part. so we did see some positive impacts on violent crime because of that, i think. now, there's still issues in the tenderloin, obviously, but i think there was some positive impacts with that because of the city's response and how

that was approached. and, it demonstrated the power and all of us have mentioned this, the power of collaboration and working with the community based organizations like urban and the people that end up working for organizations like that. and, really, we want to reduce our policing footprint as much as that's appropriate. we have to have those type of partnerships with organizations that are funded, that are supported, and, that are willing to work with us. >> president cohen: okay. >> and [inaudible] >> president cohen: i hear you. okay. i'm going to pivot off the california partnerships. is there anything -- oh, commissioner elias. >> vice president elias: thank you president cohen. one of the steps is the hiring

process for life coaches. what qualities are you looking for in the life coaches because i think these life coaches are embracing what reagan is saying and i think they would be well equipped to handle someone in need in these circumstances and the outline that you provided. >> i'll say a couple things briefly and then i'd like to pass it to arturo carillo because he's got the expertise. i think just a combination of cultural competency of someone who comes as a credible messenger and engaging folks when we're involved in high using behaviors as well as intensity case management skill sets. it's not that easy to find people who are good at both of

those. some of those are good you can do outreach and management. but they can't necessarily connect with the population. so finding somebody that's good at both is ideal. arturo, would you please weigh in and share your perspective. >> president cohen: yeah. please. >> okay. so, yes. i mean, you guys are on point. you need somebody from the community who understands the neighborhoods that we're dealing with who may have some similar experience not necessarily could be gang affiliated, could be boys club, girls club, ymca, working in the school districts. some of the cbos. who we've had a poperie. we've had 50 applications come in from all walks of life

within the communities themselves. for us, it's culturally relevant. people who know the community that we're going to be serving. so that's been our primary focus. >> president cohen: great. thank you. that's exciting. >> vice president elias: the other question i had is vaun when wurp describing your slides and indicated data and the research results which you received which it was a small group or a certain -- i want to say group that are causing these instances and, i guess, one would think if that's the case, why don't the police find them and deal with them? i think it's much more complex than that and perhaps maybe you can shed a little light and the chief can also weigh in on that because i think that my fear is, you know, this is a very complex issue and we can't just simplify it by, you know, sort of assumptions that people

might make in terms of how we rid ourselves of the problem. >> i would love to offer a couple of thoughts and then i would love for the chief to please weigh in on this. i would say if you took one thing away from our presentation tonight, i hope that it would be that we can make progress on this problem in the way that we do is is working together and focusing together on a very small number of people who at an extremely high risk right now. and so i think if we take that as a take away then that gives the path forward. then the challenge that we're going to confront is those folks have very extremely difficult type situations and it is not easy to address the issues that put them at risk. they're from the justice intervention standpoint or from a community intervention substantiate point. it is a heavy lift and that's why we need to put a lot of resources in it and work

together. i think the silver lining of that is is it's a couple hundred people in the entire city in any year. like probably less than 200. and, if you can organize players to work together from a shared understanding of who those people essentially need, then you can really make a lot of progress even with whatever resources we have available to us right now. chief, would you please chime in on that. >> yeah. thank you commissioners. thank you for that question. it is a more complex question. what i will add to vaughn's comment is the complexity of what the drive of this type of dynamic is deeply enrooted. it's deeply enrooted. and so, you can be an individual who has committed a violent act, but when you get to the roots of what's driving that violence, even if that person is held accountable and

he ends up being incarcerated, that doesn't stop the network dynamics that drive the violence because that person goes away and somebody else in that network often times will step up and be the one that will do the business of the retaliatory piece that drives a lot of this violence. so you really have to get at the network in a meaningful way as vaughn talked about. and, of course, there's accountability there i think we all would like to see. but to get at this problem before that violent act occurs, you've really got to get at the deeply rooted networks that are driving the violence and then that gets into the other issue that reagan and others and arturo have been talking about in terms of you're addressing the causes, you know. that's very complex in my opinion. it's very complex. then all the social issues come into play and the supports have

been to be focused at right people at the right time. so that plays a small part in that in my opinion establishing the population this older population, there's really not a whole lot done to support that population and we need to find it, we need to get the right community people to help us do that and we help them do that and really get at that problem in that way, in that wholistic way. >> great. thank you. >> president cohen: commissioner elias, you have a question? >> no, ma'am. >> president cohen: i really appreciate the presentation. this has been incredible. i'm glad we're working together. this is really good work. okay.

let's see. let's go on. let's move on. i think the

use the other community partners as well and some of the other city agencies to help us be more visible presence up there because it's not just the police. i've tried very hard to communicate with community so they know what's going on. if they don't see it on their block, they don't think it affects them, but it does. so it's important we work with community and part of the engagement is going to those areas and telling people exactly what is going on and that's what we're trying to do here in the bay view and then when we have these big instances like what we had a few weekends ago, we called in the resources from the other part of our operation bureau

and they were sending us to the bay view to be more visible and having the outside units come and do the patrolling and it was very thankful. i got a lot of messages from the community about they really felt that we were stepping it up. but it's important that all of us as city partners work together to solve these. it's like the broken window. when things aren't working, it's not working for anyone. it's the other city agencies. it's mta. all of us have to work together to try to solve these problems and what can we do to do it and i think we have to be more preventive as much as we possibly can and talk to people when there is an incident because it's kind of hard to talk to them when they're in crisis and a lot of these people are in crisis. it is important to point out a lot of these areas have been the same areas for years and years and why do they stay? that's always the big question to me. if you know people are shooting in this area, why do you just

stay and hang out here. that is something that i always ask myself and have conversations with people and they say these are our friends, they feel comfortable. because they're in danger and they don't want to leave. so i think we've done a lot to try to get out and talk to the community and communicate with them using all of our social media as well as having our meetings. i think our meetings have grown thanks to having zoom to having just two people to having 40 and 50 people at a time and people feel free to leave these messages and call and tell us what's going on. and that's what we've been doing in response. and captain maron, i'll let him tell you what he's all about and take you to the next step. >> good evening everyone. my name is captain dave maron. i'm the new commanding officer here at bay view. i'm excited to be here and work in this very vibrant and unique

district. i know this is just my third week here, but i've actually done quite a bit. i've been participating in a lot of different community meetings so far. i've had zoom meetings with supervisor walton and supervisor hillary ronen. i've also spoken to our city attorney and some of the discussions we've been having here in the bay view and what the police's role has been and what we need to further guild cases she is actively working on. i've been on foot quite a bit here. i've been doing a few walks up and down 3rd street in different parts of the bay view. i've had the opportunity to speak to members of our public. during my walks and the phone calls i've been taking and answered some of the e-mails, i've listened a lot to their concerns and in some instances been able to offer relief to some of the issues that they're

having. just real briefly, i was able to put together a safety plan for one of the corner stores that we're having an issue with that the community's been complaining about. i've got the owner of the store to kind of work with me on the safety plan that we're going to be instituting here in the next couple of weeks. i've also dialed the city attorney and supervisor walton's office as well. so we're going to be monitoring that situation and hopefully it improves here in the next couple of weeks. i also met with the street violence intervention program -- i'm sorry. street violence intervention program team which is arturo which is we've already heard from today. james caldwell, and i want to say robert newt on the street today. i established a text messaging chain with them. i sent them a message this past weekend because i heard from my station there could be some possible problems or violence

as a result of i think it was an anniversary of someone getting killed there at the corner of 3rd. knock on wood, we didn't have any issues. i look forward to still working with them. like i said, this is my third week. my goal here is to reduce the violence out here in bay view. i want to continue to work with the community to help build that trust and legitimacy and just take this opportunity. you'll see me walking. tomorrow i'll be walking up on san bruno avenue a safety walk. so i encourage those that are online or something to come out and you can have a chance to talk to me. and, that's it. hopefully i get to meet all of you and work with you in the future. thank you. >> president cohen: captain,

maran. >> it's good to meet you. i think that for me has changed my oirng when i think about bay view and when i think about crime. but then again, i think about families not just in babies, but in san francisco. armstrong family, just so many families that are underrepresented in spaces like

this but certainly represented when we talk about crimes not only in your district. so welcome aboard. it's good to meet you. i'm really excited about your leadership and i want to bid a beautiful fairwell to our good friend troy dangerfield who has been almost 30 years on the force. do you guys hear that? my bay view residence can probably hear it. you hear in the station, you can probably hear it. let's go back to the presentation chief or anyone else presenting on the bay view presentation. >> we'll check the presentation from here. >> all right. thank you. >> some of the deputy chiefs will weigh in briefly. if you can go through some of the slides and everybody has them so it shows sort of the

current crime trends in the bayview on shootings. so if you move slide eight, we can take it into the wrap around approach with the deputy chiefs. so i wanted to show you some of the things i do. director tiffany sutton is assisting me in that and making sure they're aware of any of the violence that pops up and they get immediate notifications. director sutton will confirm response. so if you have sympathy has a great relationship with those entities. and really what we think a good

stat ye in the community will be and what our approach should be. so we're always thinking about what the community approach should be and not to make it look like a police state and this big enforcement type of operation. many of you know officer jason johnson works directly for tiffany. he's non operation genesis for years. we've brought him on board to get involved with spip. also with what california partnerships has revealed with engaged in the criminal justice system. so he's been a great position and working night and day on preventing violence. and the other last thing i'll touch on is our bay area regional relationships. we have relationships with all the bay area police

departments. down to the line level. so quickly, i don't know if tiffany is able to talk. she said she had some technical difficulties, but, tiffany, if you're on, do you have anything to address? and, this is a lot around slide 8 short term and long term. >> good evening. can you hear me? >> yep. we got you, tiffany. >> good evening. my name is tiffany sutton and currently i work under assistant chief mike redman and currently i'm leading the intervention strategy for safe communities. i'm really excited about the work that we're doing reducing around gun violence. and in addition i currently lead our analyst unit who provides a lot of operational data to support our strategies around what are we going to do around public safety.

so that's how i support our district stations as well as our command staff. >> thanks. stacy, if you can go to slide 10 about strategy and staff and it sort of shows the flow of what happens when the chief of police all the way to the station. and i'll have greg weigh in on a little bit on the support strategies when we have instances of violence. >> i'm the deputy chief of operations. also with me tonight is commander walsh. i just want to spend a couple of minutes and talk to you a little bit about what our leadership approach is with the department when we have violent incidents that occur. we don't use the strategy for

every incident, but we look at the incidents that are occurring that we know there's the potential for there to be retaliation or there's a lot of concern from the community and one of the things we've done in the past five or six months is we have instituted a conference call that involves many members of the command staff and district station personnel. i'll speak specifically to the shooting that we had just before valentine's day. on that night, we had six individuals that were shot and it was a saturday and we were concerned about many different things that could happen over the next couple of days. that evening about 9:30, 10:00 there was a conference call. it involved myself, the chief, assistant chief redman. deputy chief lazar. captain dangerfield. and the person of that meeting

was really to do a couple of things. but really for us to have a conversation with troy, we tend to ride on the street. is there a potential for there to be retaliation and we talked about what is our strategy for the next short term. 24 to 48 hours. whether it's for enforcement, visibility, whether it's for outreach with the community. one officers things we talked about outreach for the calls. we've worked often times in the past year to year and a half with different groups such as local disparities. we've worked with some of the mothers who've lost victims to violence and one of the biggest things we've learned from that, the reason there's a good communication case between the department and the families of the victims and so part of of the conversation we had and we had that night was the community liaison unit being part of the conversation in

reaching out to the victims and especially the victim's families we also know as a department we've missed in the past what our relationship and what our connectivity is to the victim's family. that night, we talked about was there any other families that we need to reach out to. also dealing with those who have language action. we will provide that support and be that link and liaison between the family and the investigators and the department so they can get a lot of the questions answered. in that conversation we had over the next 24 to 48 hours, we talked about and the chief specifically brought this up, we need to balance our need for our presence out there so that violent activity doesn't occur with the community's expectations of us out there.

they talk often about the community wants us, they want community policing, they don't want a community that's policed. one of the things we talked about that night is what are we going to do in the next 24 hours. what is bay view's role and responsibility? so we've got resources in to the bay view district. one of the challenges we have when that happens is we have officers that are coming from other parts of the city to assist in the bay view. we know that that can be a challenge because people in that community don't know those officers. so our strategy for that point was if we put additional answers out to the violence occurring one would be specifically to the bay view connections with individuals in that community to speak with them and talk with them and then one of the biggest things the chief talked about that night was our job was not to go in there and be a visible

presence and be the police the community is concerned with. it's about can we walk around and have a conversation so that we can see it as part of the community and they can see us as part of the community and so that's what bay view did for the first 48 hours. that's the short term plan and then others we talked about moved into kind of a long term plan. and information we get from people like arturo and james caldwell from the mayor's office and we had that conversation and we found that to be successful and we are going to continue to do that as we move forward. we'll continue to do that in our interactions with the community. we want to be able to know that we are part of it. i think someone brought up earlier today and that's a good point. one of the things we talked about that night was bringing out the police unit we had out

there. i heard questions and concerns about that. is that the best idea? we are putting out that for visible presence, but what is that message we send to the community. some may see it as a safety issue, but others may see it as an occupying van that's out there. so as we continue these conversations and get better at what we're doing that would be something we're looking at. but that is what we do from the operations plan with support of the other stations and, mike, that's all i have. if there's any questions, i'll be happy to turn it over to you. >> thanks, greg. and president. >> president cohen: will finish up real quick with acting deputy chief correa. >> my name's dan correa. i'm the acting chief. our goal is to work with the field operations bureau patrol

to provide supplemental resources that we have for immediate response to prevent retaliation and additional violence in identified areas of concern. we deploy officers from our tactical companies to traffic companies which are offered and motorcycle officers. one of the things that we do and it's being discussed here and i do personally, strategy with all of our special operations, leadership team and i can pass it on to the officers. we're not there to write tickets for a car. we're there to be part of the solution to keeping people safe. now, our strategy focuses on being visible and present and having uniformed officers in the area the community goal of

keeping everyone safe. we provide our resources to various identifying areas of concern as needed. a recent example of that is of the night that we had the shooting in the area. or all the shootings in the tenderloin and the concern in chinatown and we deployed our resources all in the same operational period. and that's all i have. >> thank you. and lastly deputy chief lazar. >> i'm deputy chief david lazar. i follow up on criminal cases that occur. homicide, robbery, gangs. special burglaries. i also oversee the crime

laboratory and special investigation units. just to what is the strategy or based on the and so i just want to share with everyone really as it relates to the investigations bureau. the first thing that we did was significant on february 20th. the investigations bureau, we restructure the a portion of the bureau to make violence a top priority. one of the things we did was we added an extra captain to lead the gang force intelligence center and the narcotics unit reporting to the commander of the investigations bureau. really having a captain focused in on all the work we're talking about tonight and all the work that we need to do. the other thing we're doing as an organization is we're shifting our focus away from gang terminology and i know you heard different terminology this evening but really focusing in on who's involved

in disputes and other reasons for violence. our other problems we saw tonight and part of these issues of less than 200 people. we're focusing on that type of terminology and thought process. we're using the california preface as a guiding strategy. you heard a little bit about the intervention. we've been talking about just a few things. but we've also implemented a shooting review. and really focusing in on who is involved and what intervention we need to do. it's really going to be a big part of this moving forward. specifically what do we need toll do to prevent retaliation and get ahead of what's going on. so prevention and intervention becomes our primary focus on the most impacted individuals.

and the last thing i'll say is with the enhanced focus on community policing and community engagement, we will also be investing in our team that they in the context of their work in their interaction giving voice. giving respect, neutrality and doing all the things we need to do to work with the community. we're going to pursue opportunities for dialog and relationship building, building trust between this new violence reduction team that we're talking about and the impact of community. so as a department, we're excited to move forward at the investigations bureau. we look forward to the challenge moving forward as well. thank you. >> thanks. stacy, if you pull up the last slide. i just want everyone to see that after things happen, there's many debriefing sessions that occur within the

department whether there's street violence when having an action plan or response plan or what our response is going to be both of the victims and also to the neighborhood. that's all i have, president cohen. we're open for any questions. sorry for the extended time. >> president cohen: don't worry about that. as long as it's thoughtful and the conversation is moving and flowing, i appreciate the thoughtfulness in the presentation. fantastic. let me pivot to my colleagues to see if they have any questions. so far i can start on my litany of questions. is that your name i see? elias? all right. you're up. >> vice president elias: again. congratulations, captain dangerfield. it has been a real pleasure as having you as our d10 captain.

but i wanted to captain moran. i just have three quick questions. one is on page eight of this slide. in some of the short term goals you discussed are officer reassignment. and my question is how did the -- how is this going to help the community because i know often times we get complaints in the community about the lack of continuity with respect to the officers and then being in, you know, where the community gets to know an officer then by the time they get to know them, they're gone. so how does the officer reassignment help? >> so i'll take that. one of the things if there's a short term fix where we use that if we need to send more officers in to the bayview due to the violence. so those officers would be put in a patrol aspect just for that shift or for maybe a

weekend or depending on how long so we can quiet things down. so it doesn't really pertain to transfers and things like that. it's more of when we decide to put -- they need more personnel in their district. >> vice president elias: thank you. and, my second question, what is your plan to get officers engaged. i know that in the long term you're saying visibility and having them present, how in addition to the physical presence of officers, how do we get them mentally engaged with the community? because i want to thank you for your insight with respect to officer jj because i think he's a great example of what community functioning looks like. this is someone who before i joined the commission i was watching him in hunter's point at the boys and girls club engaging with the community when the community saw him, they ran up to him. they greeted him and there was a true relationship and

connection there. how do we sort of replicate that when we talk about high visibility and getting more police officers to the bayview? >> so a lot of that can be through training. i think if you look at the way we've pulled some officers for our liaison unit. those officers are very much involved in the policing of the housing officer. we also did the same thing with some of the officers that we reassigned to investigations to work on the gun violence. they weren't necessarily officers that were in plain clothes. which is something we've done in the past. we pulled them from housing units and they had a connection to the community and some of them were introduced to some of the bayview community last week and it was very positive on their interactions. so the last thing i'll comment on is due to covid, we switched our patrol shifts to a

different schedule. so officers are working in teams and we have a training day every wednesday. so the idea is for some of our officers like jj and community liaison or some of the officers with investigations that they could partner up with officers to train them, but also put them through some kind of training which we've done in the past. >> vice president elias: great. that's great. and, then, my last question was i was looking at slide 6 with the criminal justice partners and the partners you're working with maybe you can touch on briefly how the district attorney's office is going to be from my understanding the liaison is there and our own amazing ms. sutton is one of the district attorneys that used to be at bayview and had a really pivotal role there at the station and with the community because the police officers knew her and so did the community. so maybe you can touch on how

that practice with the district attorney and the department's going to work. >> yeah. so myself and deputy chief mcgef run and lazar met with the leaders that are going to lead that for the d.a.'s office. because we introduced the d.a.s to all the captains last week in the monthly meeting. so they'll be involved in all the community meetings and i'll let greg speak to how that meeting went and how we're going to roll that out. >> i'll just be brief on that. so it was last thursday and ronnie sing works for the district attorney office. the community liaison tied to districts versus tied to a district station.

some may have multiple districts that they are responsible for. but they will be going to their district station monthly crime strategy meeting. they will be available when crimes occur for discussions. they'll really be available as a liaison to the community when there's some of those quality of life concerns or issues that come up and aren't necessarily crime related but they are concerned with the community. so they will be out with each district station captain participating in that and that was something that da hudine came up with but not necessarily on the neighborhood concept of it and that's where it's going to have a duel focus now that we think is going to be successful. >> vice president elias: well we have a great product, ms. sutton right. >> we do.

we stole her. >> commissioner, if i can just add one thing working with this group. [inaudible] -- restorative justice. we have to support that program. and our staff to meetings. so we could hear about that type of well that particular program. and the humongous challenge with this commission is very focused on and understandably so. programs like that we have to give them an opportunity to succeed. accountability can come in many different forms. they also want to see effectiveness. as i talked about restorative

justice earlier really one of the focuses is to reduce the reextension rate. so we have to support those type of strategies and understand those type of strategies and work with our district attorney and probation and whatever type of wrap around service. that's a big step and that's a big commitment but we are there and those are the types of things we have to do. >> vice president elias: i agree chief. >> president cohen: colleagues. are there any others on the list? >> thank you, president cohen. i just want to follow up on something deputy chief redman said. this is more of a suggestion than a question. it's something i've raised with

the chief before about about the other officers' involvement in the community in their off time. whether that's taking their families to a restaurant for a lovely meal [inaudible] from the commission side, we spend about 15 hours a week volunteering and, you know, that's a real privilege for us but -- [inaudible] [ laughter ] [inaudible] -- i am sure. you know. i feel like, you know, just like to be part of the community is to be part of a community and it would be nice to see kind of the bodies not

just on working hours, but finding ways to be involved. some people say these are people that actually come here, they care about us, see us and, you know, really this is more than just a job for them. i think that people would love to see our police. i think that would really help with some of the division. so that's just my little spiel. since you were talking about it i thought i'd share with you as well. thank you for your presentation. >> mr. commissioner hamasaki, thank you for that. i was talking to some officers today. there's a big discussion about how we come out of covid and the engagement and some of the officers have been expressing how hard it has been with them because they can't be engaged. so that is something on the forefront as we come out of

this. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. >> president cohen: all right. any other, colleagues? let's um, i want to, let's see. bear with me as i pull up my questions. i want to talk about slide four. so slide four talks of the depiction of the hot spots and it seems to concentrate on areas with public housing development. i was wondering if one of the presenters can talk a little bit about sfpd's housing authority and over time different leadership both on the captain level as well as on the chief level. so i guess specifically i want to know about the level and the nation of resources sfpd commits to public safety and the housing authority developments. >> so, president cohen, i'll get started. we do have a commander pete

walsh. he's not on, but pete is assigned as our representative. so he goes to all the housing authority meetings, works with the board. he oversees all of the housing officers city wide. so if anyone is assigned to housing, pete oversees that whole program. they meet on a monthly basis to discuss the needs of each housing district and what the task is. our number of officers has greatly reduced from my time in the bayview and every other district from staffing. but it is something that we look at all the time. i'll pivot a little bit to troy about how bayview in general works with housing. but i believe we still have a couple sergeants and some officers assigned. >> yeah. there's a total of twelve officers and two sergeants in bayview in housing and they

have an excellent relationship with many of the people in the community and the housing authority as well and they do attend the meetings and they have off site meeting with some of the residents as well and they attend those. but we also have some of the family developments are not by housing authority anymore. they have their own private management like john stuart. they meet with him as well. as well as the other security services that they have in those. so it is, they are a very involved group of officers who asked to be assigned there and i think they do quite well and i think the relationship is strong. i think sometimes there's a misunderstanding between the management companies like john stewart or bridge who don't necessarily understand how we just can't get people out because they've been arrested. so they are very involved.

they talked to us, the captains hear all the time about what's going on with this case, how come we can't get this person evicted and there's a lot of other city groups that push back on that as well and we do understand that we're not trying to get people out of their houses, but we are trying very hard to engage them and i know we're trying a pilot program in alice griffin since it's such a small area. we took two of the school resource officers when that program was no longer used. not only do they walk around and meet with all the other providers, they're also responsible for hailing the regular calls of service there so people know who's there. and that's really successful. we're going to get those people back real soon. so i think the housing is a great part of the bayview officers and they are really engaged and know what's going on and i know a lot of investigative officers contact

and see what's the word on the street because those are the real boots on the ground that knows what's going on. >> president cohen: yeah. you lead me to my next question about maybe you or any of you could talk a little bit about the role of spip and true violence prevention team's play in building relationships with the community and i want to hear your perspective and then i want spip to chime in on this and, you know, for me, the bigger context is how as we as members of the police commission, how are we able to enhance your work that's being done? how do we support you both on the p.d. side and also on the community response team side? what do you need from us? is there things that i'd love for you to start to think about and if you can articulate it, i'd welcome it, but, you know, as sfpd shifts responsibilities to other programs, how do we

still ensure the police department is still improving its relationship with the community even as contact with the community is increasing given shelter-in-place? >> i think it would be great if -- i mean, what spip is doing is very well and intended and when they're out there doing stuff when nobody's watching? that's the stuff. and i've seen them all throughout last summer, all throughout the pandemic doing great things. but it's okay to pull in officers and ask, can they help do things. we don't necessarily have to be the lead in community engagement. we can piggy back on some of these other smaller groups that are doing great as well. and i think that's a way. >> so i just want to also acknowledge the folks that are listening to this conversation

that we are going to hear a presentation from spip as well. so i can focus my questions on that when they in homicide, they're up 75%. what you've shown us is a lot of what you're doing right. but i'm curious to know what you think we could be doing differently. what can we do differently? where can we make some improvements. i think there's because they don't hear it. especially on the other side of the street, they don't think there's a real problem and some of them don't think they live in the bayview. but they do live in the bayview. it's important that we

communicate to them and pull them in to be apart. and the community created the bayview violent crime task force. they decided to change things in the bayview and that group was supervisor ronen because of the shootings up there. so they did that on their own.

it will be further than anything else at this moment. >> one other thing, president cohen, if i can chime in, in one of the slides about the tv briefing sessions, so in that shooting review, we already, even though we don't have the intervention model in the software