represents san francisco's a rich history. not only do we help make history , we also preserve it for the benefit of future generations. >> madam secretary, call the roll, please. [roll call] >> clerk: and we have a quorum, madam president. before we start, i'd like to make an announcement. this meeting is being held via teleconference and is being televised by sfgtv.

if you're watching the live stream, please be advised that there is a time lag between what you're hearing and what is being viewed on sfgtv. i'd like to thank sfgtv staff and p.u.c. staff for what's happening during the meeting.

madam president, your first item of business is item 3, approval of the minutes. >> commissioners, are there any corrections to the discussion of the minutes? seeing none, open the matter for public comment.

mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> madam secretary, we have one caller in the queue. hello. you have two minutes. >> hello. good afternoon, commissioners.

can you hear me? >> yes, sir, we can hear you. this is public comment for item 3, the minutes. >> madam secretary, there are no more public comment. >> thank you. public comment on item 3 is closed. >> thank you. is there a motion? >> so moved. >> seconded. >> there's a motion and a second. roll call vote.

[roll call] >> clerk: you have five ayes. >> great. next item, please. >> clerk: your next item is general public comment.

mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> operator: madam secretary, there are three callers in the queue. first caller, your line is open. you have three minutes. >> eileen [inaudible] san francisco of clean neighborhoods, calling on my behalf. [inaudible] the revised scope could also include the expansion of awas in districts 10 and 11 as these districts have the highest percentage of children as well as on the west

side, which has the highest percentage of seniors. i would invite the members of the 2018-19 civil grand jury who produced the report, act now before it's too late, advance or high pressure emergency water system, and to present their findings on their behalf. i would urge the commission to invite experts who are advocating for the expansion of awas on the west site as opposed to pot joebl awas. i would ask that staff presentations include the following: how dedicated awas functions, how potable awas functions. i would strongly urge this

presentation be made by the a.g.m. for the water enterprise. i would also urge the staff presentation by the c.f.o. detailing the cost-benefit analysis of both dedicated awas and potable awas and how each relates to the fact that the water is heavily leveraged. thank you. >> operator: thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> can you hear me now? >> operator: loud and clear. >> great. david pillpel. good afternoon. so i have supported city attorney [inaudible] yesterday. the last announcement focused on pg&e and focused hetch

hetchy, and ignored michael carlin and staff around the agency. i hope that mike will remain, continue his work, and know that he is valued, to me and hopefully the other citizens and rate payers.

>> hello. am i connected now? >> operator: we can hear you. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon,ition commissioners. during the san francisco public utilities commission, we'll have an opportunity to reverse the mismanagement of the tuolomne river environment. my name is dick allen, i'm a resident of san francisco district 7 and a member of the lake merced task force, formed in january 2000 and served as

cochair of the water committee. the tuolomne, the river we drink our water from, has also been providing an important system, the tuolomne ecosystem, under the management of the san francisco p.u.c., has been allowing a massive reduction of the fish population in the river. historically, well over 100,000 salmon used to spawn in 2000. just over 1,000 spawned in 2020. commissioners, please read my letter to paula kehoe. you should have this in your

packet. i strongly recommend that you hold a robust conversation can district staff about adding section number 12 to the urban water management plan. the new section can be titled, the tuolomne river environment. i also strongly encourage you to reject the urban water management plan in its present format. thank you. >> operator: thank you for your comment. next caller. your line is open. you have two minutes. >> so commissioners, let me remind you, if you want us to give public comment, before the

meeting, whoever is facilitating this meeting, we should know how to dial in. in other words, they should be -- the numbers should be on the t.v. so that we can dial in. that's the way to run the meeting. once everybody is sure that number is on the t.v., you start your meeting. remember, we, the public, put you there, and this arrogance of now depriving us of having the number before we start our public comment makes whatever decisions you took null and void according to the brown act. why is the number on the t.v. not there for us to participate? don't presuppose, you know, that everybody has a computer and everybody is going to print

it out, and they have a printed agenda to they can participate in the meeting. why this buffoonery. this buffoonery should stop. it happened before, and i did not mention it. before you chastise the public, require that all the requirements be fulfilled. under the brown act. all the agenda items that you took before you took this public comment should redone before you take public comment. >> operator: thank you, caller. caller, your line is open.

you have two minutes. >> hello? >> operator: yes. would you like to offer public comment? >> oh . a republican representative comments once that he would make [inaudible] so hard that people would no longer apply. sfpuc allowed an advance statement with a $1,000 cap while contractors required advance payment. sfpuc shielded themselves for everything that might go work with the applicants who have no control over the process.

even sfpucs program to replace toilets is straightforward and quick. this means the flood water grant program was designed to scare potential applicants straight. it's like offering food to the hungry through a glass door. if these demands are not dropped, at the very least, post your final contract on the website so that potential applicants are warned ahead of time of the headaches and heartaches they would be suffering if they dared to apply. if the p.u.c. really wanted to help, they would remove all the

road blocks. thank you for your attention. >> operator: thank you for your comments. madam secretary, there are no more callers in the few. >> clerk: thank you. public comment is closed. >> thank you. next item, please. >> clerk: next order is business is item 5, communications. >> colleagues, any discussions or comments on communications? seeing none, madam secretary, will you open up for public comment, please. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 5, communications, dial 1-415-655-0001, meeting i.d. 146-500-4366, pound, pound. to raise your hand, press star, three.

please note you must keep your comments on the agenda item discussed. please note if you do not keep your comments on the agenda item, the president can stop your comments. please address your comments to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or staff. mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> operator: madam secretary, we have two callers in the queue. hello, caller. your line is open. >> commissioners, this agenda title is communications. in order to communicate as

human beings, we have to respect one another. this commission should have high standards, which it had at one time. now, i stated earlier that some of us participate in the deliberations, also known as communications, so that we can understand one another. but if you all are arrogant and expect the community to be humble, it's not going to work. so this agenda item on the communication, as you know, very little has been stated. but it gives me an opportunity to bring to your attention that in future, do not start the

meeting unless the information is on the t.v. so that people know what number to call, what i.d. number to punch in, and when to speak. so you have the commissioners, you have your secretary, and then, you have a moderator, and that blessed moderator should know to do his job or her job and respect the community so that we can participate because we are a nation of laws. and on this level, we follow the brown act, basically, we follow robert's rules. we're supposed to be civil.

you cannot be civil on one side and uncivil -- >> operator: thank you for your comments. your time has expired. next caller, your line is open, you have two minutes. >> can you hear me again? >> operator: sounds good. >> great. david pillpel again. so i wanted to bring attention to 5-e, the regular streetlight report. i support the work of rich stevens and the staff who maintain our streetlights. thank you. i would add to future reports some data or discussion some streetlights maintained or owned by caltrans or other public agencies in the city. i think, for example, the median streetlights on highway 1 between winston and holloway were out the other night. i haven't had a chance to call

311. perhaps someone could communicate that to rich and his team, but i'm aware that p.u.c. maintained lights and pg&e maintained lights, that there are lights along the public right-of-way maintained by caltrans and other public agencies, and i thought a reference to that in the report would be helpful. thanks very much. >> operator: thank you for your comments. madam secretary, there are no more public comments. >> clerk: thank you. public comment on this item is closed. madam president, you're muted. >> next item, please. >> clerk: the next item is item 6, report of the general manager. mr. carlin? >> thank you, madam secretary.

our next item we've been working on is kind of special, and i'm going to ask our [inaudible] to key this up. >> thank you very much for the opportunity. i'm really very honored to introduce this item and introduce chair [inaudible] and vice chair [inaudible]. great to have a chance to chair this with the commission today. we think it's really important to acknowledge that our bay area water system in alameda, santa clara, san mateo, and san francisco counties, are on

muwekma ohlone land. we've asked carla schulteish to provide some brief examples of our work with the muwekma in the east bay focusing on the last ten years. we've come back and provide more in the future, but we wanted to provide a little bit of opportunity. carla has been our contact on this raj going on for the last ten years, and i want to thank the muwekma. with that background, i'd like to pass this very quickly to charlene and to monica, and when they're done, over to

carla. >> [inaudible] my name is charlene ishma, and i'm the chairman of the tribe of the muwekma ohlone. [speaking native language] >> we would like to acknowledge that while we gather within the p.u.c. commission, we are in the tribal lands of the [inaudible] ramaytush ohlone

tribes of san francisco [inaudible] of san mateo and santa clara counties as well as the intermarried ramaytush ohlones who were intermarried [inaudible] in alameda and contra costa counties. [inaudible] who trace their tribe's ancest rethrough the mission, san francisco, santa clara, and san jose beginning in a.d. 1769. the muwekma families are the successors and living members

of the sovereign history torque previously recognized burona band of the alameda counties, now formally recognized as the muwekma tribe of the san francisco ohlone area. the land on which the san francisco public utilities meeting is taking place is within the counties of san francisco, san mateo, and alameda and surrounding towns, was and continues to be of great importance and significance for all muwekma ohlone tribal people. this region extends to surrounding areas that held several [inaudible] initial subterranean spiritual round

houses. [inaudible] also, the nearby ahn -- ancestral sites served as tribal cemeteries, and many have been destroyed.

these localities are viewed as special and sacred places, and we respectfully acknowledge that they have been previously settled and controlled by our ancestral muwekma tribal groups for many thousands of years. today our muwekma ohlone tribal leaders and members work over our ancestral village and cemetery sites that are threatened by construction today. the counties of san francisco, san mateo, santa clara, alameda, and other towns are within the muwekma ohlone ancestral lands. mission records document that

our enrolled muwekma images [inaudible] whose ancestors are affiliation with the three bay area missions, and now, i would like to turn it over to our muwekma vice chair, monica arellano, to finish up the acknowledgement of the land. [indiscernible]. >> -- after we were federally

recognized in 1906. it is on the strength of our ancestral elders that our families were able to make [inaudible] furthermore, our muwekma families have never left our sustained ancestral land [inaudible] wrought by over 251 years of colonization. [inaudible] as we follow in the foot steps of our ancestors. i respectfully request that the citizens [inaudible] and the broader bay area community [inaudible] to be faithful stewards of the muwekma ohlone tribe but may taining the fresh water, habitats -- by

maintaining the fresh water, habitats, and air we all breathe [inaudible] world war ii, korea, viet nam [inaudible] in the armed forces today and honor the tribal service members from california and north and south america who have served this country with dignity. [inaudible] we ask everyone who attends the san francisco public utilities commission meeting and those who live and visit the counties of san francisco, san mateo, santa clara, alameda, contra costa, and surrounding towns, to be respectful of our towns and neighbors communities within our ancestral homelands and

strive to be good stewards on the land upon which you rest. thank you, and on behalf of the san francisco muwekma ohlone people, we ask that you stand with all indigenous people in the bay area, california, the united states, and americas as we gather on the sacred land of the ancestral muwekma ohlone territory. [inaudible]. >> thank you. commissioners, michael, do you have any comments? >> i have no comments. i'd like to have carla present just a couple of slides, please. carla? >> yes. can i have the slide show? thank you.

thank you, madam commissioner, and commissioners, i am the watershed and environmental improvement coordinator in the natural resources today, and i'll give you a brief overview working with the partnership of the muwekma ohlone on the watershed project. the red triangle there is the general location of where the watershed is going to be. as you can see, it is within our sfpuc watershed lands, which are 38,000 acres, and that is a big focus of the watershed center. next slide, please. this is the big plan of the watershed center. it is adjacent to the water temple. it's about a 13,000 square foot building, which will include

exhibits, a stream profile aquarium, a classroom, community room, 2.5 acres of informal botanical gardens, and the history of the center is we really want to educate people on the history of the watershed and history of the humans on the land, as well, so that's a big part of the project. next slide. this is a drone footage of the construction. construction started back last year in march 2019. if you came out there today, you would see walls have gone up and the roof is going in, and to the left of the construction site there is a native plant nursery, and we are growing all the plants, about 60,000 plants for the center. all the seeds have been

collected for the watershed. we also grew the plants for the yard, as well. next slide, please. so back in 2010, when we were planning what we wanted to do with the center in terms of interpretation, we set up a meeting with the muwekma ohlone tribe, and we said to them, we are holding space inside the center for you to tell your stories and your history, and so we set up an m.o.u. with them so that we could pay them for their time and their expertise to work with us on this project, and we came up with an exhibit inside the center that talks about the history of the people on the land and how they lived on the land and their rich lives, and how they occupied this land for

thousands of years before any of us were here. and on the outside, we have several interpretive panels that focus on the plants that the muwekma ohlone used in their daily lives. next slide, please. and we're also trying to incorporate as much of the mu mu -- muwekma chochenyo as

possible. the eagle is part of the muwekma creation story, and we also have a lot of golden eagles living in the watershed, so it really connects with us. we're going to take animal calls and blend those with the muwekma speaking their chochenyo language, and it'll be out in the landscape. it'll be quite a few speakers, and it'll be playing around the landscape that'll be around the native plantings out there.

next slide, please. this is what we're calling the history turf. it's along the edge of the guard, and it's a walking timeline where you start with the ohlone people, and you take a walk-through all the different people that have occupied this site while looking at views of the watershed and the landscape, and also, we're planning on having images of artifacts that we have uncovered of the muwekma people and their language, as well. next slide, please. and lastly, we're working with the muwekma for education and outreach. we currently have a field trip program where kids come out to the park just across the street from the center, but we're developing new curriculum for that as well as programming for

the center on the weekends when families would come out to the site, and they'll learn about the history of the tribe and, you know, their ties to the land as well as how they lived and all that, and, you know, i just want to say that it's really been a privilege and an honor to work with the tribe. i've come to know charlene and monica really well, and it's really been a wonderful partnership, and i look forward to working with them in the future on more projects and finishing up this one, as well. thank you. >> president maxwell, i'll turn it back to you. i think, you know, the presentation by tribal leaders today was really important for us to understand the connection to the land of which we occupy and also the great staff bringing forward the watershed

center, and i look forward to a relationship and continued relationship with the tribe, and we will have updates about that in the future, so i'll turn it back to you, president maxwell, and any comments from the commission. >> thank you, michael. i am truly impressed and very thankful. i think this is a great opportunity for us, and i look forward to more of these. commissioners, anymore comments or -- yes, commissioner paulsen? >> thank you, president. general manager, i'm just really honored that this was part of the agenda today. you know, i think it's not just as a commissioner that we acknowledge everything about land that we need to do and resources and what have you, but as a person who, you know, enjoys museums and galleries and educational facilities and wandering and whatever else, i

hope you really keep us informed as to when this opens up because i will be the first in line hopefully with my colleagues to visit this resource that just makes me proud to be a commissioner. thank you. >> commissioner harrington? >> if i could add my thanks to the staff and tribal leaders. that was really good to hear. i've thought it very important, but i attend meetings in canada and other places where the meetings in canada and other places, and they start meetings with, we acknowledge we are on the land of the first peoples.

>> well, you took the words exactly out of my mouth. that's exactly what i was going to talk about, and i think it's important that when we raise the last beam at our new center, i read those -- i read the land management. i read that, so i think it's important that we know where we're stepping, and so i plan to definitely do that, and so i'm very thankful that you brought it up, and everybody's nodding their head, so yes, that will be a part of it. and i believe the board of supervisors is doing that, as well, so we certainly will. yes, commissioner ajami? >> i just also want to thank the tribal leaders and michael for -- and the rest of the staff for bringing this to us and talking about this. this is definitely a very important issue. to be honest, i'm very excited

to hear about the visiting center and to have an opportunity for people to learn more about the land. i think there's nothing more valuable than education and knowledge, and that's the only thing that can move us all forward, and i am also looking forward to taking my kids there. to be honest, i have learned so much through school classes and other classes that they have, and i would appreciate going there and learning even more. so i will be behind commissioner paulsen as he's waiting in line to see what's going on there. and i think it's a great idea to start the meetings, so i'm also adding my voice to that. >> thank you. commissioner moran? >> thank you. i echo all of those commissions. this is something that we've

been talking about for a very, very long time, and, you know, it is frustrating when something takes a long time. on the other hand, it's important to do it right, and it sounds like we're doing it right, and i'm very pleased to hear that report on the presentation from the tribal leaders, and i think it's very important to us and our sitting director as we go forward. thank you, everybody. >> yes, thank you, again. and i think we have an opportunity to certainly do it up at hetch hetchy, the tunnels. whatever work we do, we could start it and think about where we are. so thank you so much, and i want to thank the staff once again, and i certainly want to thank the tribal leaders. thank you for understanding the importance of your heritage and bringing it to us. thank you.

mr. carlin, i believe, next item, public comment on this item. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 6-a, dialing 1-415-655-0001, meeting i.d., 146-500-4366, pound, pound. to raise your hand, press star, three. please remind you that you must limit your comment to the item discussed. please address your remarks to the commission as a whole, not to individual commissioners or staff.

mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> operator: madam secretary, there is one caller in the queue waiting to be recognized. i've unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> commissioners, i am commissioner -- i am francisco da costa. some of you i think have met the former commissioner, rosemary cama. i say this because, since 1985, i have vouched for the muwekma ohlone. it pleases my heart that

unanimously all you commissioners have agreed to praise our ancestors, the muwekma ohlone, the other ohlone who lived on this land for over 15,000 years. when i worked at the presidio, we exercised the right of first refusal in 1991. all over this land, we have shellmounds that remind us who lived on this land, and at the shellmounds, the sacred remains

of the muwekma ohlone ancestors. so we have a department of interior secretary, the first native american secretary of the interior. if you all can pass a resolution so that the secretary of the interior can know of your good works. you're not bragging, you're just letting them know the work of the first people of san francisco, that would honor us. thank you very much. >> operator: thank you for your comments. madam secretary, there are no

more commenters in the queue. >> clerk: thank you. madam president, public comment is closed. >> before we go on, i want to acknowledge and praise mr. da costa, because he certainly has brought this to our attention for many, many years, so i want to thank him for doing that. thank you. >> so i will continue on with my report with the water enterprise racial equity action plan. this is one of the presentations we're making to you, and i would call on steve ritchie. >> thank you, michael. developing the water enterprise racial equity plan was a large amount of work to be accomplished in a short period of time, but i am pleased by this effort. a unique challenge for the water enterprise is that we are a large entry, roughly 1,000 employees, with a tremendous geographic spread. we have facilities in san

francisco, on the peninsula, tuolomne, and in the county. we've started to make progress with our staff on these dedicated issues, so i'd like to turn the presentation over to staff to provide the report. ellen, please take it from here. >> thank you. next slide, please. i'm ellen levin. i am the deputy manager for this effort, and i was the coordinator in building the racial equity plan priorities. our first step in developing our priorities was actually hiring cornerstone consulting to help develop an engagement

process for input on the priorities. they developed a sur you have a tool used to conduct personal confidential interviews with water enterprise staff. the survey questions were based on the racial equity action plan's seven pillars, and they were geared to generating priorities for action. they developed survey questions with ranked choi, multiple choi, as well as an open response format. the survey was intended to be provided by phone so that we could -- choice, multiple choice, as well as an open response format. many individuals had very powerful experiences being interviewed by phone, but we didn't get as much turnout as we hoped, so we turned it into a paper format and also digital

format to reach as many people as we could. what you see here is one of the fliers that we used to promote the sessions at c.d.d. we used this to build the water enterprise racial equity action plan priorities. next slide, please. the top takeaway from the survey, many of these occurred in wastewater, as well, and i imagine you'll hear from other divisions across the p.u.c. is that folks feel like they're in a dead end career path. we also learned [inaudible] and

support is growing in those efforts, but there are those who don't understand the need or valuable, which really wasn't surprising, given the context is that steve provided of our workforce. this is our reality, and we need to view it as an opportunity for training, growth, and development in our workforce, and you'll hear more about some priority actions that will get to this, but it also wouldn't be surprising to you to also know that we need to expand on the culture of inclusion and belonging. i'm going to turn it over to margaret hannaford who will talk about some of these equity action plans. >> hey. next slide, please. i'm margaret hannaford, and i'm going to talk to you about three priorities that we have identified for equity and

hiring. our first objective will be to increase our diversity as our [inaudible] polls. we'll be looking at channels to reach diverse candidates. to reach this goal, [inaudible] is establishing a recruitment budget to establish development networks and recruitment hubs. as a second strategy, we will need to assess barriers to job applications and have a support applicant. our second objective will be to increase diversity in our pipeline. outreach and education of sfpuc opportunities in schools, internship programs, community colleges, and new challenges that have not yet been tasked. the second strategy will be to

leverage bay work and other utility sector collaborations to reach new diversity channels. finally, our third objective will be to partner with h.r. and human resources and unions for greater diversity in [inaudible] polls. thank you, and i'd like to turn it over to angela chung, division manager of water supply and treatment. >> angela, you might be muted. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i'm manager of water supply and

treatment. [inaudible] i want to start with something that ellen has already mentioned? we have identified a challenge with some job series, and one of those examples is laborers. our laborers have limited mobility. what we have done in the past is we have trained laborers to become truck drivers and trained truck drivers to become operating engineers. another thing we have identified for the pathway is to become -- to get into skilled trades, and the next thing i want to talk about is mentoring programs. >> i'd like to interrupt for one quick question. this is commissioner paulsen. when you say laborers and moving into other categories such as operating engineers and truck drivers and things like that, we're talking strictly sfpuc employees, correct? >> correct. so the examples i have

mentioned, they are within the water treatment supply division specifically. all right. i'll move onto the mentoring program. we're very excited here to be starting a mentorship program. our goal here is to have senior stuff such as myself to be mentor, and we'll be paired early in their career to give them career advice. and the last thing i want to touch on is acting assignments. what we want to do in the water enterprise is expand acting assignment opportunities to more staff, and we want to do it by rotating acting assignment opportunities, and for those who may not have an immediate opportunity to do acting assignments, we're going to use special assignments or stretch assignments that allowed them to gain more diverse experience, and with that, i'll turn it over to tim ramirez.

>> thank you, angela. happy to be part of the water enterprise team. tim ramirez, division of natural resources and land management. it's important for all of the staff to have the same opportunity whether you're in the office or in the field. we want to get people the same foundation and a place to start, and to have them go through these experiences together. it's powerful for people to

hear from each other, and we want to make sure that everybody's engaged. we also want to give people a greater chance to contribute to how we implement the racial equity action plan. one example, we are bringing this up at our monthly safety meetings. there is usually a part for wellness, but we're talking about equity and inclusion. but we want to give people an opportunity to contribute, to listen, and to offer insights if they want to share those. and lastly, we want to give people a chance during their interviews to talk about their experience especially in management and supervisor positions. they know what we expect, and we want people with that kind of experience so they can contribute to our enterprise. so that's our presentation, and i'm going to pass it back to

ellen or steve. >> thank you. if there's any questions, i'm happy to answer them or steve is available to. >> thank you, everyone, for your great presentation and efforts. i have a question. you might have mentioned this before, too, but i want to know these viewer approach sort of the difference between confirmity and accepting cultural differences because obviously people accept differences differently depending on what cultures they're coming from. what i've seen is it's very much focused on diversity as a box kind of rather than embracing those cultural differences, and it often actually thrives more rather than check the box, have that diversity and looking good, but

trying to kind of force this cultural confirmity that kills all these [inaudible] and everything. so i want to know how you have been approaching that or have anybody sort of raised that as an issue? >> yeah, thank you. that's a great question, and actually really excited that you asked that question because we have purposefully sawing out a cultural competency training for our leadership, and that is exactly what the cultural competency training is about. it's an evolutionary training, so it tracks your evolutionary understanding of cultural competency and shows how you grow over that cultural competency and the differences. it's a training that's been used around the world in nonprofits, universities, in private organizations, and it's

really -- i can't take credit for it. lucky from cornerstone brought it to our attention after having conducted the interviews and recognizing what our staff really need, which is not the check the box equity training, but they need a racial equity training. they need to see their own personal growth. they need to see how their mind is transforming, and they need to be able to see it. so we'll be very excited to share with you how that goes and even the training if you're interested. >> yes. >> i see a lot of heads nodding. we would be interested and would love to have you share it. >> great. great. >> mr. paulsen? no? anyone else? again, mr. ritchie, i want to thank you so much for this great job. you all have been working, and i just can't tell you how it makes us feel, you know, when

we just finished with acknowledging our other -- our ancestors and people who came before us and really making a rich start to our workforce. the more we give and the more we show and the more we develop that at every level, the better off we'll be. thank you, mr. ritchie, for your leadership, and for your staff and all you've done. i can tell that you've really gotten into this. ellen is shaking her head, so i just feel the excitement, so thank you. >> yes. we've learned much, but we have much to go. >> thank you. i'm excited. we all do. thank you. >> clerk: would you like for me to call for public comment? >> yes. >> clerk: members of the

public who wish to make two minutes of public comment on 6-b, the water enterprise racial equity plan, call 415-655-0001, meeting i.d. 146-500-4366, pound, pound. press star, three to raise your hand. we ask that public comment be made in a civil and respectful manner and that you refrain from the use of profanity. please address your remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual members or staff. mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> operator: madam secretary, there is one caller wishing to

be recognized. caller, i've opened your line. you have two minutes. >> commissioners, in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, we all struggled with title 6, and if you read title 6, is kind of encouraged everybody to be empowered, and what you all have been discussing now, you're infusing cultural competency, and cultural competency requires learning somebody else's language, participating in singing and dancing, and getting [inaudible] to human signed. now, mr. ritchie is my friend,

and i have a nickname for him: elvis. may i say, elvis -- mr. ritchie smiles, and you know mr. ritchie, that whatever he does, he goes so deep into it. he's a professional, but know, he's going into a territory that he's embracing, and you can only embrace this if your heart is in the right place. now, the san francisco public utilities commission has over 2,000 employees. the city and county of san francisco has over 23,000 employees, and we must now,

those who are over 40 years old or 50 years old or even harder for those over 50, 60, 70 years old, and i'm not going to tell you how old i am, but we have to step up, and we have to share our legacy. >> operator: thank you for your comments. unfortunately, your time has expired. madam secretary, there are no more commenters in the queue. >> clerk: thank you. that concludes public comment. >> next item. >> clerk: 6-c. >> so i wanted to give you a brief overview of the corp. respondance. so since we started, there has

been a flurry of activity at the state level. we've been meeting in smaller group with staff from the state negotiation team, and there is a global proposal that has been put together, and we have another meeting with the two secretaries scheduled for this friday. i can say that we're probably getting a little bit closer to an agreement, but there's -- it looks like it's going to be a bigger settlement both on the sacramento river and the san joaquin river. if we reach an amendment, it

would eventually be implemented through the water quality control program. people are interested in this going forward, but we still have to go through the process set forward by the state. >> mr. collin, i was wondering if this might be an -- carlin, i was wondering if this might be an opportune time to discuss about the meeting on wednesday? >> it's an initial meeting, and the agenda is basically to talk

about areas of common interest and to get dialogue on an interest of implementation. it's refreshing that basically they made a statement that one size does not fit all, so they're not trying to make the

entire state the same. they say there's going to be local conditions that drive things. they are coming out with probably more information, more orders in the near future, and it could involve curtailments, and curtailments are where they take your water rights and they say you have to release water to the environment, and this would be done based on your seniority of water rights. we haven't seen anything yet, but i think they're going to try to make sure they don't get sued again, which they were, and hopefully it works this time. they are also making funding available for conservation and projects, and they're trying to protect those communities that do not have safe drinking water or may run out of water, so there's still a lot of activity going on around that. it's not a statewide drought proclamation, it's just for two

counties, and we expect there will be more counties as we get further and further into the water year. i'd be happy to answer questions if you'd like. >> commissioner ajami. >> we won't be generating as much electricity in the spring,

but we'll hold some in reserve to continue generating our municipal needs throughout the rest of the year, so it will have an effect on our generating capablity. >> thank you. >> if i may add one thing on that, it also will affect the price, so when we have a lot of hydropower, everybody does, so having more water means everybody gets more electricity. >> there's less hydropower being generated because there's less water. >> yeah, yeah. yes, commissioner moran. >> thank you, michael, for that update, and i was very glad to see that the governor

recognized that while drought may be widespread, that emergency conditions aren't necessarily; that's very location and fact specific, and his declaration clearly recognized that. the other thing that i hope is part of the thinking is to [inaudible] the water management plans that we are in the process of updating because those are what we have to look

at. we are not in a drought or emergency water conservation because for three years, our people have been protected by a series of drought policies and practices that are adopted by the p.u.c. and reflected in the water supply agreement that we have with our wholesale customers. taking those policies and practices, giving assurance to our customers that during an extended drought, we would not have to reduce system wide water supplies by more than 20%, and that's a pretty significant accomplishment, frankly, and represents a lot of work and thought that's been put in by staff and commissioners over time. we are not unique in that respect, but i think it's important as the state looks at its plans and what they may

require of people that most urban water agencies have already told the state what their plans are, and the state should take that into account, as well. >> absolutely, that's correct. >> any further comments or questions? then why don't we open up this item to public comment. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 6-c, dial 415-655-0001, meeting i.d. 146-500-4366, pound, pound. to raise your hand to speak, press star, three. please note you must limit your comments to the agenda item being discussed and if you do not limit your comment, the president can stop your comment and ask that you make your comment. please address your remarks to the commission as a whole, not

to individual commissioners or staff. mr. moderator, do we have any callers? >> operator: madam secretary, there is one caller in the queue. caller, i've opened your line. you have two minutes. >> great. can you hear me now? >> operator: yes, perfectly. >> great. david pillpel again. three points on this item. i am encouraged to hear about discussions from m.i.d. and p.i.d. i think it's fair -- t.i.d. i think it's fair to say that the city's and m.i.d. and t.i.d.s views have not always been in alignment, so this is

indeed encouraging, and i would also agree very much with the commented made by commissioner moran and a.g.m. ritchie about the water and policies made over the years to minimize the potential drought on the city and p.u.c. customers and users. thank you very much. >> operator: thanks for your comments. madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. >> president maxwell, that concludes my report. >> clerk: madam president, you're muted. >>. >> next item, please. >> clerk: next order of

business is item 7, discussion only of the commission water workshops held on november 30, 2020, february 5, 2021, and march 26, 2021, to provide direction to staff regarding further consideration of issues raised in connection with the workshops. this'll be presented by a.g.m. ritchie. >> yes, i'm going to do a previous introduction because this item is really set up for commission discussion of the workshops. if i may have the next slide, please. in brief summary, there was the workshop on november 30 on the bay area delta water quality control plan. february 5 was the second workshop, where we presented the tuolomne river voluntary agreement and the basis for it, and there was a brief response presentation by the n.g.o.s, and then, on march 26, there

was workshop three on water supply planning, where we provided a background document there, and a presentation on yield impacts of various scenarios where we would modify different aspects of the status quo and an n.g.o. presentation on various options relative to that. so that was the quick summary of the workshops. some of the issues raised there were predator control, the design drought, climate change and its effects. there were some other issues, as well, but those are some of the key topics that came up. i'm now going to spend about three slides talking about our

raca slides. so on the left-hand side, the left access is unimpaired flow at lagrange in cubic feet per second, and on the right-hand side is what we call water available to the city. so relative to the unimpaired flow, there is a red line that is horizontal there, going across at about 2500 cubic feet per second. and then from about mid-april to mid-june, it bumps up to about 4,000 cubic feet per second, and that is [inaudible] what we mean by that is is that any water less than that that

belongs to the users by rights. the green line here is actually the hydrograph or actually -- excuse me, the blue line is the hydrograph. it's the unimpaired flow of lagrange. so you see there most of the early part of the area has stayed below the red line and now is only starting to creep up on occasions. so the green line is what accumulates as water available to the city. below the line is theirs, above the line is ours. next slide. this is how we track water available to the city, so this shows various years on it, and the cumulative water available to the city in thousand acre feet is on the access to the left, and then, month of the

year, the water year, is at the bottom. so you see that we have various years that we chart here. the high one up there with the mark of 1,676, that's basically 1.7 million acre feet that came down the river that was available to san francisco in 2019. it was a wet year. you also see down at the bottom a purple line, that was a critically dry year, 2014. that was not a good year for us. we've had 26,000 acre feet available to us this year. that number will start going up as we progress through the year and snow starts to melt more. and then, the dashed line with the number of 554,000 acre

feet, was the amount necessary to achieve full storage on july 1, 2021. so you can see, we're well below that, and we don't project to fill our storage. we will fill hetch hetchy but not all of our storage. the resulting water available to the city this year will probably be in the 200,000 to 300,000 acre foot range. so we'll be okay, but nothing needed to fill the system. you've seen these from time to time. this is kind of a summary graph over the years, and this is one that i'd like to spend a little time on. basically, what this shows is water in the tuolomne river in each of these various years

beginning in 1983 and through 2020, and the green line at the bottom is the district entitlement. so you can see those numbers vary somewhat, but they're always there. they get the first cut of the river, what dan steiner used to say, they get the beer and we get the foam. the yellow line is water given to the bay area or captured in storage. so that's water that we ged off the storage in terms of water available to the city, that we can get, and then, the gold bar above that is what we spill over the water bank. that's over and above what we can give to our customers or put in on the water bank. so that's excess water that we

can't capture because of limitations on our facility, both storage and pipelines. so in most years, we're not able to control that, and those are the yellow bars, and there's some years worthy of note on each of these. first, would say years 1988, is 990, 9 -- 1990, 1992, 2014, and 2015, are all year that all had slivers of blue, water that we could do something with. that is when we actually had very little water available, and we had to pull water out of our storage to meet customers' demands, and of course, those were drought years. 1993, 1998, 1999, and 2016, you see a fairly substantial blue

bars, so that is when we were trying to fill our storage. we had a good-sized year, and we were trying to capture our storage, what we call refilling our reservoirs, and that is a goodyear for that. probably the biggest take away from that is there are years that we spilled water from water banks. some years, there's a little bit, but many years, there was a lot, and that's either captured by the water districts or spilled out of their system, as well. this is a good chart to see that we get some of the water each year, and there's a lot that we cannot capture that we actually have an entitlement, too. so just a little bit of help to learn how that works there to start the discussion, and i'd

be happy to answer any questions. >> commissioner harrington? >> thank you, mr. ritchie. you know, when you were talking, it occurred to me that we use these terms all the time, but after our discussion about the tuolomne river, i'm wondering if our terms are accurate. you were talking about the district share and the city share, and where's the river share, right? how do we talk about what goes down the river? is it part of our share, part of their share, or is there another line below this graph that we're not actually seeing? >> yeah. i think you're making an excellent point because those were used in the development of the river. entitlement is water that you cannot use, and the idea was there would be appropriate regulations set what the river share should actually be, and that has been what our argument

is with the state as to what our entitlement should be. there is the river's share, and that would be within the regulations. it would be nice to portray that very clearly on a graph so that everybody knows what it is. the point is that we don't have agreement on that. [please stand by]

>> we spent time doing extra assessment on many things especially some of the debates around what a drought means and whatever else. i know commissioner harrington

not to put him on the line but hey, why not, initiate that stuff. what takeaways are important to discuss in terms of moving policy? and that's a little bit more of an aggressive question but i mean are the takeaways from what was just presented by mr. richie since we're supposed to take the great resources we initiated into our tool belt. >> i'm sorry, you're asking me, commissioner paulson? >> commissioner: yes.

>> commissioner: obviously, all of us own this discussion but i think what was coming to my mind and helpful about those conversations was that it focused on certain key areas we want to follow-up on and there's so many issues but clearly the areas that keep resonating the design drought, working with the districts, alternative sources of supply and whatever comes out from the voluntary agreement, our own or master one in some way. and the parts of that in terms of predation or other kinds of things we want to do to make the river a healthy place and you hear of meetings with the district and state. i'm not sure there is a

particular deliverable they want next week, right? it's the whole discussion and how we keep track of all the different things. do we want to speed them up? sure. part is having ongoing discussions and a question that came to mind after receiving public comment is yes, this is urgent and some things take forever and there were comments about we should do something quickly in terms of the design drought because it does impact the urban water management plan and how we make decisions over the next five years. i'm not ducking your question but want to ask the question of the staff, my working assumption

is we do a five-year plan but not set in stone. if we find for some reason we can speed up alternative delivery of supplies or we choose to change increase or decrease the designed drought period that affects us all. they can happen whether there's an urban water management plan or not in effect for five years is that true? >> that's absolutely true. so the extent we continue to work on these things and know more, there was some concern what we do in our plan affects our wholesale customers' plan and they may make decision on offering water to a new development that would be a problem for the next five years. if we change our thinking, does that roll through theirs and allow them to also make different decisions over time? i'm thinking yes. >> the answer is yes. i think the question came up at the time are we changing the

contract in the water management plan and the answer is of course no. but in terms of planning it's a snapshot and why they sent a five-year plan so people will give thought on a regular basis. if we start to make changes in how we do our planning, our wholesale plan customers would be a part of ta and what the commission comes up with would roll out to everybody else. >> thank you. i would like to see us say, here are the five or six areas of focus and how do we hear back on a regular basis about those areas and continue the conversation, what are we doing,

what's the result and there may be different time lines. that may not matter in august by may in march and when we know something and have regular updates will allow us to have the conversation of interest to me. i understand commissioner rand was involved in this and want to see if he has additional thoughts. >> one of the takeaways i had you can't help but be impressed with the magnitude of the issues. in the first two workshops we saw different approaches to deal with fishery issues.

both approaches are offered in good faith trying to solve the same problem. but there's a very different approach taken and there's also very different and makes me interested in early implementation. if we as a commission can say we're committed to the health of the fishery and want to start early implement and believe the fish will like and respond to this let's get it in place and monitor it over time but we

should start the and not just in the realm of studies and legal filings. that's one major takeaway i have the other thing, as we talked with the various issues and the tuolumne river trust sent us a letter giving more information about the design drought. win thing that may be helpful is to recognize the design drought and we'll be discussing it in depth in the future. it may be helpful to think the design drought is not a prediction or forecast. we're in the saying this is what

is going to happen. this is a stress test and a stress test that challenge our conditions the most. we need to think about it is it the right stress test or designed properly. >> commissioner: i think we'd like a resolution, policy statement that talks about what the commission's goals are and commitments are in terms of the river and commitment for what

we'll focus on in the next year or three years and staff could come back with a time line when the think the topics will be right for better discussion to move the topic along whether quarterly or happening to bring in so everybody knows in september we'll focus on this topic but a combination 6 resolution of commitment and a time line to solidify the work that was done. >> commissioner maxwell, i'd like to follow-up. >> commissioner: do that now.

>> commissioner: my perspective is the four or five things that were covered or however it gets paraphrased is something we've put into our internal discussion and policy making agenda as it moves forward and movg it forward is great but having time lines on that it's important but the sense of all of a sudden we have to get something on an urgent level or something we have to change the time or this or that and we'll absorb that as commissioners because we're in

charge of dealing with these resources and open up the discussion and i'm not signature here thinking i'm going make a radical decision because we opened up our communication. time lines are important and decision making dead lines are not. >> commissioner: thank you. commissioner moran. >> commissioner: we split it up for staff to come back with a plan and schedule for how and when to deal with the issues and that's a deliverable for the next meeting some may be on a

workshop or future report but maybe come back in two weeks' time and give us a schedule when staff thinks to have the other discussion. there were some things we did that were different in the workshops. i would like the commissioners' sense of what worked and what didn't and one is the workshop and providing opportunity for other voices to be heard. we put out the summary of concepts to be reviewed ahead of time but not discussed at the meeting itself. the presentations staff gives to commission are face withcally a preview -- are basically a preview of what is to be talked

at the commission meeting and that is different than saying that's information but we're not going to talk about it but think you should know. that's a different approach. if there's any thoughts about how those workshops were conducted and what you liked or didn't like is helpful to staff to go to the next phase of this. >> commissioner: i think the workshops worked. we got better at them and the last one was better than the first one and there's different ways to approach them but overall it seems as if it provided also the public an opportunity to listen and to hear more in depth about things and certainly for us. as a new member it was helpful

to get a better understanding of the agreement of how you got to the agreement and other things that influence it. for me i think the workshops worked. >> i don't want to jump over commissioners but to the chair, i want to say i think it worked. as somebody who spent all my life having meetings, as long as people are civil we get more information. if somebody says, okay, commissioner paulson that was the stupidest thing i've ever heard in my life that's not a bad thing. the fact we've had the discussions are of value. we can micro manage it and goes ways in which business conducts itself but i see nothing wrong.

i do agree, madame president, the dialogue got more patient from the first meeting to the third though there were different subject in all of them. >> commissioner: commissioner harrington. >> when i became general manager of p.u.c. i said i want to clear the calendar of all these little things we have on the calendar that fill up hours and hours of our commission meetings and talk about policy and want engaged discussions about policy. another department head said you have to be out of your mind. don't let the commissioners ever touch important things like policy and fill their calendar with contracts and that's part of your world and keep them out of it. it's interesting to see how we roll through different things

over time i think a healthy relationship commission and staff and moving things along is a great idea and hard to do when have you a whole other agenda going on which is why we had the work shops on different days. i know it's a lot of work but i think it's helpful to do it that way. >> commissioner: yes, before we leave this, getting back to commissioner harrington, you mentioned you wanted some resolve, like a relatio -- resolution, a policy. setting us in a direction, giving some direction. is that something of what you said or -- >> i wasn't trying to presuppose the position but talk about the

topic and the staff wasn't dealing with 25 things but looking at six or whatever it was. i wasn't trying to say this is the answer on the design drought. i'm saying let's make sure to talk about it and not forget it and do that in a scheduled way. i was thinking more process than final decision if that makes a difference. >> process rather than direction? >> commissioner: i'm not presupposing what you'll do with the districts. >> final decision not final topics. >> commissioner: yeah. director carlin. >> this is great discussion and appreciate everything that's been said so far. i will push back a little bit on

commissioner moran. i don't think i'll have something available in two weeks. it will take longer to think through to the issues you've raised and things we need to define such as adaptive management and other issues i think need to be addressed as part of this. if you can give me four weeks, i think we can put together something credible and greater value to this commission for discussion. i will say this and president maxwell said it, we got better at the work shops as time went on, yes, we did. we actually started focussing on them. we saw what the commission wanted and able to respond whether on water, waste water or even power we've gotten better and the discussions have been most valuable for staff. thank you for that. >> commissioner: commissioner ajami. >> thank you, president maxwell. i had two comments.

to the workshops were useful and appreciate the discussions by my colleagues. two things i think we should think about and strategize around is the demand management discussion we had. i think it still needs to be central to the discussion we're having around development and ultimately water supplies and the second piece is i think working with our wholesale customers, it would be good to have a more accurate and living database of what is happening in their districts with project development and alternative water supply solutions that are coming online. because it is beyond the water management plans are coming out every five years it would be good to know how the supply

demand dynamics are evolving in each one of these districts and how that impact us over time. it would be important to keep discussions around water supplies central to what we have and the big delta plan and the eco system management. thank you. >> commissioner: thank you. >> commissioner: anyone else? any further discussion? madame secretary why don't we it up to the public. >> clerk: members who want to make public comment on item number 7 dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366, ##.

limit your comments to the topic of the agenda item being and remind you if you do not stay on topic the chair can interrupt and ask you to limit your remark to the item and comments to refrain use from profanity and keep remarks to the commission as a whole and not individual members or staff. >> there are six callers in the queue. caller you have two minutes.

>> caller: i want to thank members of the commission for holding the three workshops related to the ecological impacts of the water diversion from the tuolumne river. i've been working on a project and voluntary agreements came later and i've met members in private and public forums and there's nothing about the presentation or proposal that convinces me it has any chance of restoring tuolumne river and it doesn't attempt to satisfy the requirements from the water board for the many state and federal policies the water board needs to uphold. what strikes me about the commission's discussion of time lines and commitment is a bit of history. 2010 it was apparent to most observers the state water board was likely to require greater fresh water flows reached the

delta from the tuolumne. and yet p.u.c. staff have not studied the requirements but pursuing litigation approach with district partners. specifically in the workshop on water supply i noticed staff identified 35 million gallons a day as an option for some but not other scenarios. some scenarios may capture the larger problem. most water experts recognize conservation and alternative supplies are no longer optional. the evidence that current water diversions are unsustainable are around us. water recycling in particular will help the city address environmental challenges on the horizon. san francisco bay is having problems from enrichment from waste water and designs of water

water systems are likely to be required over the next decade and the cost of acting or not acting will be -- >> thank you for your comments. sorry, your time has expired. next caller your line is open. >> caller: i'm with coalition of san francisco neighborhoods speak on my own behalf. i'd like to thank the commission for conducting the work shop as they provide in depth information and allowed other voice to be heard. i'm assuming the tuolumne river trust will be speaking and will be supporting their comments which i have seen in advance. in regards to thursday's meeting with the irrigation districts i would strongly urge the

commission to include discussion of a pilot project to implement the u.c. solar aqua grid for irrigation canals with solar panels. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. >> next caller, please. >> caller: i think the discussion today was also helpfully framed around producing solutions to the crisis of the rivers and our bay. i think that's important to note because unfortunately

historically the s.f. p.u.c. has been more about explaining why things can't happen than making things happen. i also want to drill down a little bit on the design drought. my comments are informed by my work on drought. i'm an expert reviewer for the intergovernmental panel on climate change and a particular working group 1 report. the reports form the basis for the framework to require change in the climate agreement. i want to point out that some have objected to changes in the design drought which i think were rightly described as a stress test rather than a forecast. nevertheless some people have objected to changes in the design drought express test on the basis of climate change

reducing water supplies. i don't think it's quite accurate description of how climate change is affecting the hydro logical cycle in california and think it mares quite a lot for for instance in particular. there hasn't been significant reduction in precipitation and the climate model s are mixed on what they will be but there's been an increase in warming temperature changing the timing the hydro logical cycle so run-off occurs sooner -- >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. your line is open. >> caller: this is barry nelson with the salmon association. i want to join others in thanking you nor work shops and

discussion and we welcome the clear direction and working with you and the staff on both the supply and demand issues as well as the science and delta issues the substance of those through work shops. four quick comments. i want to draw your attention to the letter after the science workshop that's an important and simple next step and there was an update on the discussions and i wanted to add to the report first, there are no n.g.o.s involved in the discussions. the appear to be on a 2020 framework with no n.g.o. support. it's not clear if there'll be an agreement coming out of those discussions. at the moment there's no effort to include the n.g.o.s.

first, the need on the 60% on the coast and there's a risk of massive fish kill and a growing number of species on the brink of extinction and growingal growing algae and meeting on policy use will hopefully be important issues. we're eager to keep working with you on the issues and thank you again.ssues. we're eager to keep working with you on the issues and thank you again.we're eager to keep workih you on the issues and thank you again. >> have you two minutes. >> caller: i'm with the

tuolumne river trust. we have a 222,000 acre fear and we're likely to get as much water as we're going use and storage won't fill but it doesn't have to fill every year. we'll still have enough water in storage to last four and a half years. commissioner harrington mentioned from our water management plans aren't set in stone then why has the s.f. p.u.c. been referencing the 2015 plan when it was off by 15% though we saw demand lower than projected all included in the water supply? and every error the s.f. p.u.c. makes harms the environment. they never benefit the environment. when errors are always in one direction they're intentional. an example, in january the s.f. p.u.c. was asked to use sales

cap in demand in water rationing. sfpuc did that and got caught and thanks to some of you are commissionsry dufd that and reduced it from 55% to 40%. just correcting that information and several agencies weighed in as well as because they want to develop housing and if their housing points sees there's going to be extreme rationing they have a strong case for those projects. the design drought. we've talked about this five years. two years ago dave warner produced his probable analysis and encouraged the sfpuc to do their own. we're still waiting on that. that's where you can have a huge impact and help bawsca and their design to build housing and disappointed to hear you won't be considering that. population growth.

it wasn't based on plan bay area. >> thank you for your comments. >> have you two minutes. >> caller: i'm a palo alto resident. regarding the water management plan, it's a published and widely used document. it would be a shame to miss the once in a five years opportunity. i fully support the tuolumne river trust proposal to reduce the design drought by a year and to meet the july 1 urban water development deadline. there was an aanalysis based on 1100 years of data back in february of last year. and resent it earlier this year 1100 years of data back in february of last year. and resent it earlier this year. my point was to show the ways it could be done and encourage the sfpuc to do their own analysis

and to my knowledge it has not been done. we're two months from the urban water management plan deadline. how could you make such a decision without knowing the probabilities? the early water management plan becomes the plan of new record and impacting development. you make the decision with the data you have. there's 100 years of actual data showing nothing worse than the '97 drop. and a history of inflated demand projections and populations responding to a rationing better than what the design drought anticipated. perhaps you considered having the urban water management plan include a draw? do what you can to investigate the tuolumne river trust proposal in time to meet the july 1 urban water management

plan deadline. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller you have two minutes. >> caller: i'm a private citizen. i've grown up always valuing water and considering the availability of water in the '50s we lived in italy and post-world war ii we had to chlorinate all of our water. i was a biologist in the arctic on the ice where we had to heat the ice into water. so i value having water. i value having clean water. but i also value having nature and being able to have our rivers too. and i think it's possible and sometimes i hear people talking about we have this growth.

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contractual obligations for water demand. so often the demand projections are very inaccurate compared to actual demand. let's take a closer look at the reality of true demand and stop over estimating demand which constrains not only development but also providing water for the environment and threat -- threatens fish. i don't get why the sfpuc is dragging its feet on getting new water sources online in this day and age. the sfpuc needs to get more nimble and on the ball for additional water source to give back to the tuolumne river. i worked during the don pedro

model on water supply and use and reiterate, respectfully, the request the commission direct sfpuc staff to provide a data set for a 200 mgd scenario operations model. finally, i support the request that commission direct sfpuc technical staff to review and discuss with us recommendations and options for dry year sequences with the framework of the faced delta plan. i thank you -- phased delta plan. i thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller your line is open. you have two minutes. >> hi. i'm co-chair of the sierra club chapter water committee. thank you for the workshop

series. it's important that the commissioners and the public understand as much as possible. everyone needs to be informed. i'm glad commissioners mentioned paying more attention to how water is used and other sources and the wholesale customer area down where we are for best opportunities. the users of the water need to make the best informed decisions together. >> i want to thank you for the

discussion today and for holding the three workshops and inviting us to participate. i'm encouraged by the tenor of the discussion and about continuing the dialogue with the environmental and fishing communities and all stakeholders. to focus on a couple quick follow up items. we had asked for data requests specifically the fish population model and the analysis of required flows under the voluntary agreement appeared to the state board proposal and i hope we can get that information to us in the near future. second is that i strongly applaud the focus on alternative water supplies, demand management and design drought

and related topics because they're integral to your job and ours. the job urban water management plan gets it right when it says the sfpuc recognitions the plan -- roig recognizes the plan and based on our review of the water management plan, the draft plan does not actually have that planned for how to respond to the plan being fully implemented. it over estimates demand by at least 10 mgd by the population estimates and we see a lot of opportunities for future dialogue and collaboration. we know we are not going to agree on everything but want to leave you with the impression that we hope to continue the dialogue. thank you. >> thank you for your comments.

madame secretary there are no more callers in the queue. >> thank you. public comment on item 7 is closed. >> commissioner: all right. commissioner harrington. >> commissioner: thank you, madame chair. we got additional information. can somebody give us an update of what is happening with that? >> i was thinking one last letter and let the issues lie. maybe it's better off just to

send the data they request and hold that out there and leave it in the draft form so we don't get into this continuous debate where they say our science is obviously wrong and totally inadequate and can't accept it. that's not constructive. we'll share the information we can and the don pedro model is not ours it's the direct so we can't run those -- district so we can't run those. we'll hold off on the letter to all the counters of all the counters of all the counters of the issues and maybe follow commissioner moran's advice and let the fish do the talking. >> commissioner: that is probably a good idea. thank you. >> commissioner: any further comments? commissioner moran? >> commissioner: as woe -- we heard the comments come through

one thing that wasn't talked about so much in the workshop but needs to be on the follow up lift is the discussion on climate change because it's complicated. it's clear warming moves early which means under the entitlement structure we may get more and drought likely to get deeper and longer which would have the opposite effect. i understand there is a study all but final and given to the science based group doing it and going in for their review and that's a topic we do need to discuss and it sounds like the time lines are such that that could be included in the program of things we decide to talk about in months ahead.

>> commissioner: mr. richie. >> it's being done in the office of the research and being submitted to and the ones who go through the final review prior to it being published. >> commissioner: and we're expecting that some time in the summer? >> yes. >> commissioner: any further comments? questions? seeing none we've had public comment and next item please, madame clerk. >> clerk: new commissioner business, item 8. >> commissioner: any new business or new topics? seeing none, next item, please. >> clerk: next order of business is item 9 the consent calendar. all matters secure under

constitute 9. all matters listed hereunder constitute a consent calendar are considered to be routine by the san francisco public utilities commission and will be acted upon by a single vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission or the public so requests, in which event the matter will be removed from the calendar and considered as a separate item. >> commissioner: any comments? public comment, please. >> clerk: dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366 ## and to speak press star 3 we ask you refrain from the use of

profanity and address your remarks to the commission as the whole not to individual commissioner members or staff. mr. moderator do we have callers? >> there is one caller in the queue. caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: david pelgan again and want to pull item 9c and make belief comments on that. thanks. >> thank you for that. madame secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. >> clerk: thank you. >> commissioner: all right. then may i have a motion and

second to approve the consent calendar's items, a, b, a and b. >> so moved. >> commissioner: moved and seconded. roll call, please. >> clerk: [roll call] you have five ayes. >> commissioner: thank you, item c. c) approve the plans and specifications, and award contract no. hh-1003r, moccasin powerhouse generator step up transformer installation, in the amount of $3,321,432, and with a duration of 716 consecutive calendar days

(approximately two years), to the responsible bidder . >> this is a contract to install the transformers which were purchased under a separate purchase order through the city administrator's office and i'd be happy to answer any questions. i know there were issues around the process for ceqa and i also have environmental management to answer any questions related to ceqa. >> commissioner: okay. >> commissioner: i have no questions. >> commissioner: anyone else? >> commissioner: my only thought

is mr. colpel asked it to come off consent for a reason. >> commissioner: so we'll have public comment but, yeah. so public comment on the issue? >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 9c dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366 to raise your hand to speak press star 3. please note you must limit your comments to the topic of the agenda item being discussed and remind you if you're not on topic the chair can rint interrupt you and ask public comment be made in a civil and respectful manner and refrain from the use of profanity. address your marks to the commission as a whole not to members or staff.

do we have a caller? >> there is one caller in the queue. >> caller: david fillpel. i support this project to replace two critical transformers reinforcing the commission's asset management policy and practices. i understand the timing of the approval is critical with the scheduled shut and coordination with other aspects of the water system. i hope this project is delivered on time and on budget. it is key to continuing to deliver us clean hetch hetchy power. i think this is probably the last project that involved a friend of mine who was working in ivy funds group and recently left the p.u.c. for other opportunities perhaps we can get her back some day.

she's great. a very thoughtful calm person who worked for p.u.c. finally, i have no ceqa comments on the project at this time and thank you all very much. >> no other comments. >> commissioner: a mention to aprevious. >> second. >> commissioner: moved and seconded. roll call, please. [roll call] . you have five ayes. >> commissioner: next item. >> clerk: item 10. 10. authorize the general manager to extend by nine months

through march 31, 2022, the following programs currently scheduled to end june 30, 2021: (1) the temporary emergency customer assistance program for covid-19 relief for single-family residential customers providing a discount of 15% on water, 35% on sewer, and 30% on hetch hetchy power bills, (2) the application deadline for the small business and nonprofit customer assistance program for covid-19 relief providing a 20% discount on water and sewer bills with bill discounts under this program continuing for six months from the date of application approval, and (3) the temporary suspension of rules governing water/power shutoffs, liens, and fines. this will be presented. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i'm aaron franks. i'm the rates administrator within finance and here to request an extension of three programs we implemented in response to the covid-19 pandemic. this slide shows an overview of the programs proposed for extension. first two are discount programs that provide a discount on eligible customers bill one for

residential and small businesses and both targeted at customers who lost income due to covid-19 and the shelter in place orders. the third a moratorium on shutoffs and fines related to our collections process. that does apply to all of our enterprises. it includes clean power s.f. and instead of shutting off the power, what happens is we send those customers back to pg & e. that's currently not happening under the moratorium. all three programs are set to expire at the end of june of this year and we're proposing to extend these for an additional nine months through march of 2022. this slide provides a lot of numbers. i'll talk you through the highlights. this is a little bit of data on the programs as they currently stand. the first two tables in blue reference our emergency discount programs. we have over 6,000 customers

receiving bill discounts under the emergency programs and not proproved -- proposed for extension today but there were customers already enrolled in the low-discount program. the second table shows information on the average customer who has applied for water and sewer discounts. the median income which is the middle income point for residents of san francisco is often used by housing authority an other benefits programs to assess what customers' income is. 60% of the median is considered to be low income and 30% of the median is considered to be very low income. this tells us the people benefit from our current emergency program were already below average income for san francisco and have lost almost half of

their income due to covid-19. so this and we'll talk on the next slide will highlight how the program is reaching a meaty subset of people from san francisco. i wanted to highlight in brown at the bottom the number of customers who are currently protected from being disconnected. in the case of water sewer that would be a shut off. in the case of clean power s.f. that would be return to hetch hetchy. sorry, return to pg&e and just to give you a scale of the number of people currently benefit from the moratorium in place. next slide. one thing we're tracking is where customers are located applying for the program. so these two maps show census track level information and the darker shaded areas are areas

where a higher percentage of customers are applying as a percentage of total applicable accounts. in the case of residential is a total in each census tract. this allows us to overlay demographic information. as you all know we have a real marching order to consider racial equity and there's a whole lot of work within our agency to think how our collections process and discount programs have a disproportionate racial impact. it would not surprise anyone to see the highest number of applicants are from our southeast parts of san francisco where we know we have more low income communities and more black, indigenous and people of color households and want to take a sharp eye how the racial equity work ties into our collections as we think about coming out of this covid pandemic.

so the purpose of this extension is really to give us some time to think through what the right level of support is for our customers. as we come out of the pandemic while balancing the need to fund our operations and have collections for delinquent bills. i'm personally excited about the arrears management plan presented at the last meeting. that is an innovative new way to think of how to reengage with customers who built up delinquent balances without saying we're shutting you off there's no hope for. programs like that and some others we're looking at are things we'll try to make sure we have in place so when the moratorium ends there's options for people. other things we're thinking about is i am proving our preexisting low income discount and before the pandemic we had a low income discount program and want it super easy to apply to

and make sure it's providing the right level of support so those currently in the emergency program when they come off if they're still experiencing hardship there's something to apply to to continue receiving the discounts. finally regarding clean power s.f., the california public utilities commission which regulates pg&e is looking at their own disconnections moratorium and similar arrearage programs and if i am plented they would a -- implemented they would apply to the clean power s.f. team so whatever we do at the p.u.c. lines up with the timing those acts. if we extend the programs from nine months today we'll work on all of this over the next nine months and i fully expect to be back here in front of you to talk about what we're trying to do to make sure this is a smooth transition for people as we come out of the pandemic. i think the last slide is just a

summary of the actual proposed extensions. the residential program we're extending through march of 2022. that means customers currently enrolled in the program will continue to receive benefits and will also allow new people to sign up. the small business and nonprofit program is structured a little differently. the way it works is everyone when you are accepted in the program you get discounts on the next six months of bills. essentially it extends the application deadline so businesses can continue to apply through march of 2022. the moratorium on shutoffs, liens and fines would be extended and communication of these programs is a huge priority. these programs are not effective if people don't know they exist. we'll notify the current enrollees and remind them this is targeted towards customers with hardship and they have a requirement to notify us if

they're no longer eligible and continue our targeted outreach to at-risk communities and doing work to make sure we reach in-language programs to people who do not speak english as their first language and trying to work through community-based organizations who regular interact with customers who may be struggling to pay their bills. with that i'm happy to take any questions. any questions? >> commissioner: yes. >> i have a question on slide number 3. you had a line item in your

third table. are there overlap between the two? do we know are those people part of the 1200? a lot of individuals are water metered so it's a slightly different customer base in some cases. >> commissioner: that's gai

point. thank you. >> commissioner: any other comments? public comment, please. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 10 dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366, ##. to raise your hand to speak press star 3. limit your comments to the topic of the agenda item being discussed and if you do not stay on the topic the chair can interrupt and ask you to limit your comment to the item and ask public comment be made in a civil manner and refrain from profanity and address your comments to the whole commission and not individual members or staff.

>> there are no callers. >> clerk: item 10 is closed. >> commissioner: a motion to approve and second. moved and seconded. roll call, please. [roll call] . >> clerk: you have five items. >> commissioner: next item, please. >> clerk: 11. approve amendment no. 4 to agreement no. pro.0029, project pull internship services, with the japanese community youth council, to continue providing administrative services and technical assistance for the project pull internship program through the summer 2021 session; and authorize the general manager to execute this amendment, increasing the agreement duration by six months, for a total agreement duration of five years and six months, with no change to the contract amount. there say presentation.

>> i'm the acting of program services. the plan for the upcoming summer is to do a similar virtual program. for this agenda item we're requesting your approval to extend the existing contract with the administrative and technical assistance of the japanese youth council. this is for time only. i'm happy to answer any comments

or question us have. >> commissioner: i love the work in the program. the contract is not what i call best practice. you're saying you'll go out for r.f.p. next year. it started with general manager's approval.

>> clerk: members of thepublic wanting to make a comment please address your remarks to the whole commission not individual members or staff. do we have any callers? >> there are three callers in the queue. >> clerk: thank you. >> first caller your line is open. have two minutes >> caller: hi, good afternoon, mortgages. -- commissioners. i had the honor to be part of project pool and have seen the program grow substantially throughout this time.

it's always been a diverse program focussed on including the youth of under represented communities and gain the opportunities to work closely with different city of san francisco agencies which is a very unique experience that not many people get to participate in. when i first started, there were less than 100 interns and since then the program has doubled in size. throughout the seven years i started out at the high school intern as my first job, transitioned into a mentor and got to become a team leader. i have made wonderful and lasting connections with my peers and mentors that otherwise wouldn't have been possible if i wasn't given the opportunity and would not be where i am today without the program and director, lisa myles-wilkerson. without her the program wouldn't be as successful and as well known and loved as it is today. thank you for your time. >> thank you for your comment.

next caller you have two minutes. >> caller: i'm kelly ommeran. i was in the from 2014 to 2019. i was super committed to this program from the start. the reason i continue to apply and return every year is because i knew i was part of something very special. i aligned with the program's mission and goals which are to give young people a chance to learn and succeed and the opportunity to grow especially for those who come from under privileged backgrounds who never thought success would ever be possible. the project is so diverse and has such an inclusive, inviting atmosphere and warm people and i'm a child of immigrant and first generation college student and growing up i never thought about working for the city and didn't realize it was something

that was possible for me to do. once i learned of the project it opened up my eye to the world of professionalism and i gained work experience and skills and i've learned so much from my experience there and as a result it's opened up doors for me and gave me the opportunity and the reason i have my job now working at the san francisco public utilities commission and many colleagues have also gotten a job with the city and it shows the program prepares us to succeed and become the next generation of civil servants and to be forever grateful for those who have been set up for

success. thank you for listening. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is. open. have you two minutes. >> caller: good afternoon, commissioner. the san francisco public utilities commission is one of the departments intentionally bringing city services and resources to the community rather than waiting nor community to come for resources. i'm carlos ramos and i'm a san francisco native who's life has directly been impacted by the public utilities commission through project pole. through this experience i was able to learn and gain invaluable work experience that has shaped me into the young professional i am today. the project gave me the exposure i needed to and drive i needed to obtain a college education

and work in the public sector. for 25 years project pull has provided opportunities that directly impact the san francisco youth with minority identities. i'm thanking the commission to continue to support the program that is make a difference in the lives of minority san francisco youth. thank you. >> thank you for your comment. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> caller: i'm shenise patterson and i want to talk about project pull and how it impacted myself and the lives of so many young people. as in alum i remember applying to the internship and remember i did not receive the internship that year because i wasn't quite ready and the reason why i want to add that so what i'm saying is because i think it's

important that project pull is a program that gives second chances and gives young people that may not know what career focus they want or what jobs they want in life but it's a way and opportunity for them to find that and i feel like once i was invited into the project pull family i was able to work with others and in a professional environment and gain experience that i never experienced before. being a young african american woman from the bay view i can speak for myself but also want to speak for other young people i know that have been in project pull. it was any first time i had ever seen there was a building downtown that was able to operate the city and had all these jobs and showed me where water came from. i never knew any of that and i went to school and they never talked about the different jobs. being able to come to project pull and given the opportunity i was able to not only to change my life and go in the direction i wanted to go in but also help

so many young people that eyes were blown by the opportunities and folks. i want to say to the many people and commission and i never met any of you but i want to say continue to keep project pull because it opens our eyes to so many young people that need people like us and need the resources and need people to tell them they have an opportunity to be something not only than what their community tells them they're going to be. so i just want to say from the bottom of my heart this program deserves to go on for 30 more years because it has changed me and i know it's changed the lives of so many young people and thank you for the opportunity to speak. >> thank you, caller. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> caller: hi, hi name is angie. i'm a project pull alum and had an opportunity to be with the project pull family over eight

years as an intern and mentor's assistant and help impact the lives of so many teenagers and young adults in for instance and without project pull i wouldn't have gained the leadership skills i needed and wouldn't have found the second family i needed and wouldn't have gained the professional and interpersonal skills to be as a public professional in new york and it's help propel my career and a couldn't emphasize enough how the program is very much needed to change and impact the life of so many others like mine. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> caller: hi, my name is erica and i was lucky enough to be

part of the project pull family about 10 years. being in project pull i found that support system i needed. it also led me to being a leader and helped me in my current role as a nurse in france helping my community. if it wasn't for the project pull family i don't think i would have been where i am today. and i'm thankful for the opportunity it gives me and other young people and those skills to be in the real world in the work field as young as 15, 16 years old and thank you for your time. >> >> thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> caller: cyrus.

a former project pull alumni. the program has given me the opportunity to understand the importance of working the public sector and being a public servant. this is my first full time job in college and helped determine my career path. as of next year it will be my third year anniversary working as a public servant for the city and county of san francisco and wouldn't have been possible would the guidance of the project pull program. thank you. >> thank you. madame secretary, there are no more callers on the queue. >> clerk: public comment on item 11 is closed. >> commissioner: commissioner harrington. >> sometimes we do forget about folks and i'd be remiss i didn't mention i believe project pull was founded and would not be where it is without harlan kelly

so thank you. >> commissioner: thank you. any further comments it sounds to me like it's worth every penny of it and sounds to me people are asking all the things we talk about and i'm very pleased we are a part of this and people could comment and let us know how they feel. it's extremely important so again thank you and thank you for acknowledging mr. kelly -- commissioner harrington. madame secretary, i think we're ready for a vote. a motion and a second. >> motioned. >> second. >> commissioner: moved and seconded. roll call, please. >> clerk: [roll call] .

you have five ayes. >> commissioner: thank you. next item, please. >> clerk: next item is item 12. 12. approve the selection of edelstein gilbert robson & smith llc (egrs); award agreement no. pro.0178, state legislation representation and advocacy services to provide state legislative lobbying services; and authorize the general manager to negotiate and execute a professional services agreement with egrs for an amount not-to-exceed $1,680,000, and with a duration of five years. being presented by megan scott. >> good afternoon, president maxwell and commissioners. i'm here to seek approval and the scope of work is to develop and implement a state lobbying

strategy for the agency only on legislative and regulatory issues that impact all of our enterprises an bureaus. the state lobbyists work and a large scope of items. through the legislative session that just wrapped up we tracked over 400 bills related to water, sewer, infrastructure and the myriad of issues that touch our agency. many of these bills had large fiscal or operational impacts on our agency so my team along with the lobbyists advocated. our lobbyists are essential for their expertise and relationship. so far it's been a very active year already in the state legislature. we're hopeful you will approve the contract to ensure our agency continues to be well represented in sacramento. thank you and happy to answer any questions you may have.

>> commissioner: thank you. commissioners, any questions or comments? commissioner harrington? >> i'm talking too much today. >> commissioner: no problem. >> commissioner: thank you for having the contract in front of us. what it brings to mind is we have a lobbyist and strategy in sacramento and washington, d.c. but dont talk about it at the commission level and would be useful in the near future to arrange to have sacramento and washington, d.c. lobbyist come to our meeting and talk to us what their strategy or how to engage with us. that would be helpful i think. >> commissioner: i think that would be helpful. mr. carlan, are you taking note, please? >> i am. we'll arrange that in a meeting in the near future. >> commissioner: thank you. >> commissioner: that being said, outside contractors are one thing, good/bad and

important. we also do have in the big infrastructure of san francisco people that are on the executive staff that are lobbyists also. just putting it all in perspective based on commissioner harrington's request is important to add to that mix of the report back if that's what we're going to do. >> commissioner: thank you. yes, commissioner ajami. >> commissioner: out of curiosity do they represent other water agencies or utilities? >> the firm in question does represent some of the associations we are are a part of. they represent the california municipal utilities association overlaps the water and power

side and represent cal c.c.a. the community choice aggregation. >> and we're members of both. we engaged them prior to their engagement with the other soccers -- associations they asked us to represent them as well so there was no conflict of interest. >> commissioner: that was my next question. i realized we are involved in both of them. my curiosity was around the fact if we have conflicting interest how would they approach that and do we have an individual lobbyist that works with us or for the lobbyist representing us

and cuma and the community choice aggregation but assuming since we're part of both of them our policies are aligned. >> correct. >> commissioner: thank you. >> commissioner: any further questions, comments? thank you very much ms. scott. public comment, please. >> clerk: the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366, ##.

to raise your hand to speak press star 3. limit your comments to the topic of the agenda item being discussed and if you do not stay on the topic the chair can interrupt and ask you to limit your comment to the item and ask public comment be made in a civil manner and refrain from profanity and address your comments to the whole commission and not individual members or staff. do we have any callers? >> madame secretary, there are no callers in the queue at this time. >> clerk: public comment on item 12 is closed. >> commissioner: may i have a motion and second to approve item 12. >> so moved. >> commissioner: second. >> commissioner: moved and seconded. roll call, please. >> clerk: [roll call] have you five ayes. >> commissioner: thank you. madame secretary, will you read the items to be heard in closed session, please.

>> clerk: following items will be heard during closed session. item 15 unlitigated claim julieta jay carlos dmd, inc. v. city and county of san francisco unlitigated file no.: 21-00132 date filed: 07/17/2020 proposed settlement with city to pay claimant $175,000 and claimant to release all claims. 16. conference with legal counsel - pursuant to california government code, section 54956.9(d)(2), and san francisco administrative code, section 67.10(d)(1) (action item) (gessner) unlitigated claim monika neuendorf/state farm v. city and county of san francisco unlitigated file no.: 21-00777 date filed: 10/30/2020 proposed settlement with city to pay claimant $46,181.51 and claimant to release all claims. 17. conference with legal counsel - pursuant to california government code, section 54956.9(d)(2), and san francisco administrative code, section 67.10(d)(1) (action item) (gessner) unlitigated claim stephen besselman/state farm v. city and county of san francisco unlitigated file no.: 21-00238 date filed: 08/05/2020 proposed settlement with city to pay claimant $29,107.03 and claimant to release all claims. 18. conference with legal counsel - anticipated litigation as petitioner per california government code 54956.9(d)(4) and san francisco administrative 19. conference with legal

counsel - pursuant to california government code section 54965.9 (d)(1) and san francisco administrative code section 67.10 (d)(1) (discussion only) (whipps) existing litigation san joaquin tributaries authority, et al v. california state water resources control board . item 20 has been removed. >> commissioner: can we have public comment on the items. the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item dial 1-415-655-0001 meeting i.d. 146 500 4366, ##. to raise your hand to speak press star 3. limit your comments to the topic of the agenda item being discussed and if you do not stay on the topic the chair can interrupt and ask you to limit your comment to the item and ask public comment be made in a civil manner and refrain from profanity and address your comments to the whole commission and not individual members or staff. [please stand by]

>> clerk: [roll call vote] you have five ayes.

president? >> president maxwell: yes, i'm here. >> clerk: if you are ready we can enter in