>> hello and welcome to the tuesday may 4, 2021 virtual

meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission. i am the commission vice president. due to covid-19, health emergency and to protect entertainment commission members, city employees and public, the city hall meeting rooms are closed. member and employees will be participating in the meeting remotely. this precaution is taken to the various local state and federal orders, declarations and directives. commission members and employees will attend the meeting through video conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda. both channel 26 and streaming across the screen.

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>> vice president caminong: than k you. the first item is general public comment. is there any public comment for items not listed on the agenda? >> good evening vice president. i'm checking right now. there are no hands raised and no chats in the comment box. >> vice president caminong: than k you. public comment is closed. the next item is item 2. approval of the meeting minutes for april 20, 2021 meeting. >> so moved. >> second. >> vice president caminong: who did the first? [indiscernible] [roll call vote]

>> vice president caminong: than k you, crystal. meeting minutes have been approved. next item is agenda item number 3. report from the executive director. >> thank you so much, vice president caminong. this evening i have some placeholders on my updates including the health order. we always have that there. if you heard in the news today, the mayor announced we'll be going into yellow tier. that will be effective thursday morning. we are waiting for the health department to update their website with the final health

order. at this point, we do not have a presentation to share on the rule changes. we are going to be going ahead and updating most likely some slides that they put together for the orange tier. posting those on the website making sewer the website is updated doing the newsletter and the education that we can. ensuring our inspectors are up to date knowing what the rules are so they can provide information in the field. i will note that in regard to health order outreach, we have three inspectors in the field that i'm going to do specific outreach to target our businesses. lot of them will be coming online for the first time ever in this pandemic. i think they're going to need some more hand holding so they know what the rules are and what

things should look like. they will provide signage, that kind of thing. i wanted to let you know that more is to come on that. it's all really exciting. sounding like for outdoor activity, we will not be required to have face coverings on anymore. really feeling like we're getting closer to normal. some updated numbers for you. we have now received over 300 jam permit applications. we have issued 215. we have 27 under review now. of those 27, dylan noted that we have several coming my way for signature. that's all really positive. some of those are compliant cases that the inspectors found in the field. you'll hear some of that this evening. i will also note we had 66 ineligible over the whole time.

most common cause for that is that the permit applicant does not have permission to use the space that this they are applying for. beyond that, just a quick little update, we'll be providing more information on this. i did forward to you all the letters that you approved at the last hearing on april 20th. with support for recommendations with the shared spaces ordinance and small business recovery act. that was noted and ben will let you know where that's at in the legislative process now. final note for you, this is kind of the biggest update that i have for you this time around. on our music and entertainment venue recovery fund. the deadline to actually apply

for this local fund for our venues is tomorrow. this is a big deal. all of you, i encourage you commissioners to please post on your social media about this. we put lot out on our social media in newsletters. it's $3 million fund now. these grants will be for at

least $10,000 and could be more depending on the number of eligible applications we received. dylan has been working super hard on this process. i wanted to give him a big shot out. ben has been working hard on this. we'll report back with updates if this continues to progress and after we closed the portal and start figuring out who gets these grant awards and how we disperse them. this is not our office doing that. this is office of small business that we are on advisement to make sure that all of the applications that they received, we're double i can whiching with -- double checking with them. beyond that, last note for all is crust -- just quick reminder we have our virtual retreat next week. you should have heard from

president bleiman or vice president caminong regarding the group activity. we'll be breaking out into couple of teams that we hope to progress past the retreat and continue to meet on our biggest issues. we're excited about that. that will be from 1:00 to 4:00. for anybody that wants to hang out at the end, you can grab a beer or whatever you want and we can just hang and talk like we did in pre-covid times. it's feel like, we should all probably meet in person some time too. if you have any questions, dylan just put some information in the chat about where you can apply

if you have not yet as a venue and you think you qualify. commissioner perez? >> commissioner perez: thank you for your report. i wonder if you can refresh our memory what the yellow tier will entail? >> we're waiting on the final rule to be published from the health department. at this point, i can't tell you the specifics. they are going to be less restrictive and same activity is going to be more permissible. it's really exciting. some of the places -- some of these underlying health order activities have been around for a long time like outdoor dining are going to have less restrictive rules as well.

i'll let you know more as soon as i know. i don't want to misspeak. >> commissioner perez: i'm intuned about outdoor festival events. >> that will be addressed in the new health order. i believe we're going to see the less restrictive rules and capacity opening up for that kind of event. >> commissioner perez: thank you very much. >> vice president caminong: than k you director weiland. thank you and commission staff for your hard work. senior analyst is right. is there any public comment on the report from the executive director? >> there are no hands raised and

there are no chats in the comment box. >> vice president caminong: publ ic comment is now closed. the next item on the agenda a item 4. report from senior inspector. senior inspector savino. >> good evening commissioners. it's been an interesting two weeks. it's been pretty quiet. let me get you all up to speed here. since our last hearing, there has been 29 sown come -- sound complaints. we worked hard to resolve these issues. i will run through some of the businesses highlighted in yellow. there are four specific cases here to talk about. i'll keep this pretty high level while trying to paint the full picture and we can talk about any question us -- questions you might have at the end.

the new cases will be covering these next four start on april 18th. the first business i want to talk about is business on fillmore and marina. they received complaints about loud noise coming from the back patio. they were able to allow more conditions in relation to sound. next steps in order to come into compliance. the business does not have history of complaints. you can see weather starting to get nicer, in turn, we are starting to see new sound complaints. happy to report that the manager received the inspector inspection well and they submitted an application the following day. we're processing their application and will be sending out their approved j.a.m. permit soon. next business i want to talk

about is bell cora green street. it's become a quite destination in the last six months. with numerous restaurants serving delicious food. the street has become a destination for people to enjoy outdoor dining in the city. there have been a few one particular neighbor who does not love the increased noise levels. they host small live bands on occasion. last week we received seven complaints via e-mail. the inspector found there were operating outside of their proposed j.a.m. permit times. some levels seem to be louder from 50 feet. the inspector of the able to make contacts with the manager, educate them on the permit

conditions and together, they agree that the business would amend their allowable times for live entertainment. which are limited and less than most j.a.m. permits. as well as set up an official sound test for loud sound in order to better monitor their sound levels and ensure they are a good neighbor. i'll be following up to set up the sound test and bring them into compliance. next business to peek about is capwell gardens. this business opened about one month ago. they received numerous 311 and e-mail complaints from the statement neighbor -- same neighbor. i have been able to visit three time and educate the managers now who come in compliance. the complaints continue to come in. i found 20 groups standing in front of d.j. with sound levels

louder than ambient levels of 5. i talked to the manager again and explained that we need to conduct an official sound test to ensure they are operating compliants not disturbing it their neighbors. the manager reached out to set up the sound test. it is now scheduled for saturday may 15th. d.p.h. will likely conduct an educational visit here to ensure compliance which do not allow for dance parties unfortunately. the sound complaints, we'll move towards progressive. the last business is beau. inspector has been out there to visit following every one of those complaints. making sure visits last weekend

alone. very happy to report his education has paid off. in response to a complaint, i found the business operating in compliance. the manager has been working very hard to monitor sound levels and is willing to do whatever it takes to be a good neighbor. we agreed it would be best to proactively conduct an official sound test. the inspector will be reaching out and visiting this coming weekend to conduct the test and set an appropriate sound limit. i will note that a lot of the complaints are about patron yelling and loud voices. that's all for today. please let me know if anyone has

questions. >> vice president caminong: than k you. one request now that we're getting towards the end of the pandemic and j.a.m. permits to maybe go back to doing the presentation, the spreadsheet that you give us just for what's come in. by realized it's got -- i realized it's gotten to 35 pages. it takes a bit of scrolling. a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things. maybe just shift back to doing -- i like the format. it's not a format issue. >> i think what's good with the tracking system really helpful to us internally.

i appreciate you're being able to see the history of it and i know in the past, you usually, whoever is presenting, usually verbally -- we've gotten complaints. >> we'll do that. now that p.o.e.s are operating inside are not just talking about j.a.m. permits. we're talking about the broader universe. >> vice president caminong: are there any other commissioner questions or comments on inspector savino's report? is there any public comment on

the report from the senior inspector? >> there are no hands raised. i do not see comments in the chat box. >> vice president caminong: publ ic comment is now closed. the next item is item number 5. update on nightlife business assistance in response to covid-19. i don't have an amazing introduction for our colleague from oewd. please welcome the beard. >> thank you vice president caminong and good evening commissioners. ben van houten. i do have a pretty short presentation tonight. let's dive into some of the latest updates.

going to go through some federal, state and local updates on a variety of programs i think most of which we've already discussed. after a number of delays and a month of uncertainty, small business administration successfully launched on april 26th. all our venues and many entertainment businesses were really concerned about launch of that program. once it got up and running, my impression is things went smoothly. businesses are just waiting to find out where things stand. it's first come first serve program.

small business administration launched the restaurant revitalization fund, which is focused on restaurant, bars and food and beverage businesses. that program had a successful launch. it's another first come first serve program. the first three weeks of the program, only application processed is from series of priority groups including women-owned businesses and veteran owned businesses and business owner from disadvantaged communities. that process of reviewing those applications and processing those applications is happening now. i think there's generally shared expectations.

application assistance is available through san francisco city partners. in terms of state updates, i wanted to highlight a number of state nightlife entertainment bills. they had their first hearing in state committees. first set of milestones cleaved for variety of bills. the temporary covid-19 authorization ability to sell

alcohol beyond the brick and mortar premises up to one year after the end of the california state of emergency. continuing that permitting process on. i think with the intention to apply if permits. sb389 will make to go sales at restaurants and bars. sb793, which included some of the components originally in sb314, it would create music venue liquor license with live, music and entertainment venues no not have to get restaurant or bar license. 793 would also create music

venues where there can be open container consumption of alcohol. potentially from businesses selling it to go. that will be -- it's not required, it will be something jurisdictions could consider doing if this bill is adopted. on the local front, thank you to director weiland and to dylan for all the hard work over the last couple of weeks to get the information out. i think we're in a really good place in terms of people aware of the fund. it's encouraging to see so many applicants. encouraging all eligible venues to get those applications in before that deadline. finally, i wanted to highlight other local grant programs that are available. these are closing on may 7th. these are san francisco relief

grants through the office of economic and workforce development. we have community anchor grants for $10,000 to $25,000 for businesses. they are equity grants, $5000 with a focus on low to moderate income business owners who have not received other city support. a link there for more information about all those great programs. small business recovery act was recommended to move forward by the planning commission and just today, the shared spaces legislation was recommended to move forward by the m.t.a. board of directors.

steady progress. next stop is to the board of supervisors. with that, i think that's the end of it. i'm happy to answer any questions on any of these items. >> vice president caminong: than k you, ben, it's great to have you join us once a month during our commission hearing. i did want to ask a question about san francisco's small business week. can you tell us little bit about it. i heard that it's small business month. i heard of the small business week. maybe you can put us on the same

page. >> thank you. san francisco small business week, right now, there are a number of different efforts happening as part of small business week. there's small business 30-day challenge, organized by small business commission president and sfmta board of directors to encourage people to shop at small business. there are other efforts and other marketing efforts with the goal in a public facing, public oriented way to encourage members of the public to do -- think about and help support the

recovery of san francisco small businesses. small business week is about broadening the reach of those conversations to the broader san francisco public. >> vice president caminong: i wanted to -- you've been cutting in and out. i think there's a little bit challenge on your wifi connection. i think we understood everything you said. >> i turned off video, if anybody wants to get clarity on anything. it's nice to be mostly heard in honor of itself.

thank you. >> i have a question. two things. on the community grants, the last page, the local, when to be says entertainment venue, they have extended hours permit. you can consider a legacy business. as an entertainment venue, is it definition entertainment venue or legacy businesses that do have extended hours permit that is under the entertainment commission's purview? is that kind of a gray area. won't qualify? >> that's a great question. i think at this point, all of the available information about who qualifies for this program for the grants is on website.

i don't know it gets in that level of granularity. i would encourage any business that sees itself represented in those requirements to apply. especially with the community, san francisco relief grants, the application is very short. i know there are business who had question about this and that and go for it and apply. there's no downside. >> second question, i know health order hasn't been developed yet. i know that bars have been restricted at the close by 11:0. now with the yellow tier, with the 25% allowed, would that mean

that the bars will be able to reopen at 2:00 in morning? are we still going to be lock down until 11:00 p.m. i don't see indication or any restrictions. they are still writing the material. >> lot of it has been decided at this point. it's a matter of getting like the hundred plus page document updated and uploaded. there's a lot of legalese. what i heard through the grapevine is that restriction would be lifted. >> it's 25% and all that. >> i believe based on the webinar last week the health officer gave for the yellow tier, it didn't say anything about restriction on time

inside. we'll see what they say. the indoor bars can open 25% capacity up to 100 people. otherwise they're subject to the same restrictions that apply to indoor dining. food is not required. >> that's kind of what we've been told before. 11:00 is the cut off. >> we'll make sure we highlight that. >> vice president caminong: are there any other commission comments or questions? is there any public comment on this item? >> right there's none. let me flash the slide for a few

seconds in case people forgot to make a comment. there are no hands raised and no comments in the chat box. >> vice president caminong: than k you. public comment is now closed. thank you, ben. moving on to the next item is item 6. hearing and possible action regarding application for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. i'm not sure who's presenting? >> that's me. i'm sorry that's not on your script. i have taken that box over from deputy director acevedo. our first permit for this evening, i will mention, thank you to these folks for calling

in today. they applied it was like two weeks before we completely closed down last year for limited live performance permit. they were one the ones that were sort of had to be put on hold for a while. that was a bummer. what's good is that at least we received approval for this space. this is for live performance permit vin debut. they are located at 9 west portal avenue. we do have any opposition. i'm suggesting approval with the good neighbor policy. thank you to james robinson owner for being here today and speaking with you.

he was told pre-pandemic that he wouldn't have to present because we used to put these on the consent agenda. we're so excited from our permit applicants. we wanted him to come on board this evening. thank you for coming. >> thank you. thank you for having us. i'm james robinson. thanks for the introduction. tonight, off camera, we're joined by matthew and brad. matthew is our manager and brad is our chef. if you like, i also have them come in the camera view. they do a tremendous job as musicians. that is their number one long-term priority and goal in life. they are keeping the focus on their long-term careers.

we have a terrific introduction. there might be some things. >> i have about a few comments. can you explain what is west portal doing? i know that neighborhood was very active at one time. it was a little great little neighborhood. how long you been there? can you explain more about the business? >> sure. my wife and i has been here since 26. 26 -- 2006. we've been resilient.

it's pretty quiet by 9:00. it would be nice to have a few more lights on later in the evening. just to keep people flowing on the street and keep west portal on the map and transition into our evening time as well. >> adding little vibrancy back to the neighborhood that we lost a year ago. >> it's coming back. >> that's great. i don't see any. we always love our limited live permit holders. it's hard enough to do business and hire a talent. >> thank you. >> i wanted to duck tail on that and thank you for being part of the city economic recovery and investing back in the neighborhood and adding to the

cultural ecosystem. i don't have any concerns. i like to move to support this staff recommendation. >> second. >> it's so nice to have applicants in front of us. thank you. >> exactly. >> here's matthew bar manager and brad in the kitchen. >> i can't wait to come and check it out. we're excited to have people. >> are you opening up today? >> right now we're only open wednesday through thursday. we're going to add back days and

hours. our timing is constrained now. as demand builds, our days of offering service and hours will come back as well. >> we're going to have to all go over there. >> i know. >> thank you. thank you for coming in front of our commission. this is probably the most darling request that we've ever had. i'm going to share this, my first job was on 300 block of west portal when i was 15.

i wouldn't call west -- [indiscernible]. it is pretty vibrant in terms of the restaurants and all the businesses in that area. we're really excited just to see all our permit holders to really take 2021 and move forward. we had our first motion from commissioner wang and second from commissioner -- >> you want to take the public comment? >> vice president caminong: of course. dill lap, is -- dylan, is there any public comment? >> there is none. >> vice president caminong: publ ic comment is closed. krystal, we're ready. [roll call vote]

okay. >> i'll follow up with you guys tomorrow with your permit. congrats. >> thanks. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> vice president caminong: isn' t there one more >> yes. i'm happy to introduce it. this one is ec-1578, it is for st. joseph art society. which i'm sure you heard about. this was coming online

pre-pandemic. second permit we're hearing. this is the last one. they are located at 1401 howard street. this is a really versatile space that will serve as a museum and art gallery and gathering space. the applicants have done lot of work to get this application before you this evening. not only do they have to wait, they have to work with the planning department in advance of working with us to ensure that night time entertainment can be allowed as a youth at the premises. we've conducted extensive neighborhood outreach. they plan to have live entertainment. they've noted in their application that they are going to have all kinds of entertainment including acoustic music, opera, fashion shows, d.j.s, live bands and more. they've applied for this ongoing

place of entertainment permit to also include outdoor entertainment and amplified sound in their outdoor location. we're taking them both at once. part of this permit, we will make sure we do sound testing inside premises to make sure this complies with police code. however, we will also conduct an outdoor sound test and i'm recommending in my staff condition we restrict that with the j.a.m. permit. we can always change that at later date if it's not working. i did recommend within my staff recommendation, the restriction on hours. i wanted to note for you for

outdoor sound, i want to note that's not a strong recommendation at all. the applicant actually does not want to have that on their permit. i only included that because during this j.a.m. permitting program. we've been limiting the hours to six maximum per day between hours 9:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. these folks want to get more flexible with their programming. to have couple of events during the day potentially on a weekend where they are using more than six hours but not using the permit on other days of the week if that makes week. if that becomes an issue in the future, that's why we exist. the police department did also recommend few recommendations that you will see on my memo and the permit applicant has no issue with any of those. i will say that there's some testimonials from the musicianings and -- musicians

and artist of support from neighboring businesses. there was no opposition that we heard of. i will just give it over to nick and his team. >> thank you for the introduction. thank you for the opportunity to present. we're here on behalf of st. joseph's art society. seeking a place of entertainment permit. also with me is sarah is manager of the joseph's art society. >> good evening everyone. thank you so much. i wanted to go ahead and start

-- >> i think you could go -- there you go. >> thank you everybody. my name is sarah. st. joseph's is a national historic landmark that hosts nonprofit cultural organization that dedicated to the art. it ranges from live performance, lecture, book signing and more. we support local and internal artist, the as well as other

nonprofit. i have been with st. joseph's from fall of it 2018. i seen the operation of the building and ensuring the safety of guests and staff. i've been cultivating the relationships with our neighbors even outside the community outreach as we have posted and many of those neighbors have my cell phone and e-mail. they can call and text me at any point, especially during an event if there's any concern. that's a little bit that we have more st. joseph. we did have three inspections this morning. we had building, plumbing and electrical. we passed. just little side note. >> good to know. i'll reach out to them. >> i will welcome any questions how i can explain the project further to make sure we're safe for the community.

>> i don't have any questions. i use to work on tenth street and walk passed this building everyday. always wish that it would be used for more and it was boarded up with a fence around it. i'm delighted that it's being used and you've been able to do so much work to restore it and take care of that building. thank you. >> i have a question.

thank you for your presentation today. i should have a couple of questions. i had a chance to attend the event at your venue about a year ago. it was event hosted by supervisor matt haney. i'm happy to see that you guys are very much supportive of local nonprofits having venue available for fundraiser. thank you for that. my question is, i was wondering for you can elaborate more on your community outreach? i see that on your permit. you did reach out to other organizations. i was wondering if you can ewill be rate -- elaborate more with your outreach to neighbors? >> exactly. we had to do couple of outreaches for different permits. happen on different occasions.

we did one early mid-march, just before covid and shelter-in-place happened. with that, i field the questions specifically a neighbor from across the street from the h.o.a., which i also had a follow-up with him and his other h.o.a. director to talk about st. joseph's and what we do and what we are doing here affecting the neighbors across the street. we had a really great zoom together. we were able to help them. they were super excited that we have the security detail here. i introduced them to head of security.

>> is it going to be like a permanent mutual for art or a restating collection? >> it's little bit of both depending on the artist and art. since piecing have been in place since we opened. right now we're going to be installing beautiful show with 70 pieces that will rotate. it's dependent on the art and how fast we're able to sell their pieces. it's really dependent on the artist, the pieces and if they're going to be moving somewhere else to another

gallery. we worked with local galleries and put those artist on display here. >> thank you, really nice, warm welcoming space. >> you can see little bit behind me. [laughter] thank you. >> i had the privilege of attending several events at your venue before everything shut down. it is stunning. it seemed like thorough community engagement outreach and for your patience during the

whole permit purgatory. it is a very versatile space. some of the hour, 6-hour restriction on the permit that staff recommending is something that you guys have concerns about due to event rent pace to parties. is that primary use venue rentals. can you tell me more about the concerns with the restriction? >> for this it 6-hour restriction, do you mean outdoors? i think the idea is more behind the fact if san francisco valet call me wanted to do something outdoor in the courtyard, then i had the art commission call me that want to do an gathering in the evening, we weren't going to have to say no to an outdoor

gathering or event they like to do. that's a little bit more the aspect we're looking. we don't feel like we're handcuffed to say no to something. >> i see. executive director weiland, you mentioned the rationale to keep it consistent with j.a.m. >> just for background for you too, commissioner wang, pre-covid, the way that we were recommending conditions for outdoor amplified sound on an

ongoing basis for places of entertainment and limited live performance permit where essentially just based on one piece of police code that talks about standard of regulation. we found like super liberal, which is good in a lot of ways. it doesn't work out in realtime much. essentially, you can't exceed ambient 250 feet from it premises. that's really loud sound limit. that means you have to not exceed ambience like a whole huge city block away. we've been permitting all the j.a.m. permits at 50 feet. operating like the high 80s or 90 decibels which don't have big

reason to operate louder than that unless it's a special event outside. beyond that, we permitted all of j.a.m. permits little bit more restrictive with 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. zone. to not exceed six hours. we've been more specific with j.a.m., making them choose their hours and stick with that schedule. i want to give them more flexibility in choosing their six hours. i'm fine with it keeping it open. if we get lot of complaints, they'll hear from us. you may need to see them at a hearing. >> commissioner wang: that would be my preference. i don't know how my fellow commissioners feel. >> thank you for that explanation. >> i have a question for

industry. can you give me a little bit of your background as far as an operator. sound like you been in this game for a while. first of all, being a guy that builds venues, to clean up a church like that, a time when -- i was looking up and saying, how do you clean this thing? i like to know more of background of people in your staff. the space itself has a lot of warehouses. which is great. it is kind of far away.

i think it's isolated, you're so far away. i want to know your staff and commissioner wang, did have a good question is, are you going to use third party promoters to want to use your space. are you going to allow them bring their own sound system, are you going thousand -- to allow them to bring their own security. there's lot of questions when talking about third party rentals. >> i was running a private winery club in napa valley for 12.5 years. i was running the operationingsr the winery. coming to san francisco, and started an opening this building

alongside our events director who has extensive background running hotels in las vegas and being in the food and beverage industry. we have a team that works on our list that has background within the food and beverage world to help maintain all of our events at st. joseph's. in regards to the staffing and security, monday through friday, we have a third party security company that comes in, they do grounds constantly through the block. in the evening, i have another third party that comes in and -- they come in 4 to 5 times. to make sure nothing is

happening on the from party. we add guards in and we layer them based on timing and number of people. we had events where certain artists if we worked with a retailer requested that we work in tandem with their security, which is we're open to do to ensure we have the safety for all the guests and the staff for the neighborhood around us. with third party promoter, that's not really how we manage our events here. our events are really by word of mouth or by the community or the membership or people coming in.

it's not something that we actively pursue and put ourselves out there. it naturally happens. >> basically, corporate events is going to be your mainstay. which is great. being a promoter background -- we always look for new spaces to have parties. we always encourage promoters to use beautiful spaces. i want to make sure that there's some kind of screening process. if it's mostly for corporate events, i think it's fine. i think it's great.

some venues there's notification to -- southern station that you will be having a third party event. maybe commissioner falzon can pick up on that. it sounds like you pretty much know what's happening and you keep your place clean. i think it's really good just -- that's all i have. [laughter] thank you so much. >> just to interject on what you said. if you look at my memo, look under the staff recommendations. this is for all commissioners, broken them up between southern stations recommended conditions. southern station is actually requesting that you adopt condition that says that

st. joseph will notify via e-mail. >> good evening. we covered everything really well from my optics. my only comment, incidented to pair at commissioner wang. i really don't have a problem removing that condition. we totally get what you trying to accomplish. i'm only one to know that it's operational. there was a grammar school next year that was part of the church. little trivia here, the first tenant after the school closed, the san francisco police department rented that space.

i'm happy top make -- to make a motion. >> vice president caminong: than k you. i do remember when st. joseph's was open. i went to school there. thank you. are there any other commissioner comments or questions? i like to go to public comment. >> i'm going to stop the screen sharing. thank you.

>> there are no comments in the chat. >> vice president caminong: publ ic comment is now closed. commissioners, do we have a motion to approve the permit? >> i will raise that we move with staff recommendations, limiting the. number of outdoor events and hours per day.

>> can we incorporate the friendly amendment that director weiland put in the chat between 9:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. >> thank you for catching that. i'm blocked from chat at the moment. thank you. >> vice president caminong: we got it. do we have a second? >> second. [roll call vote]

>> vice president caminong: your permit application conditionally granted. please follow up with dr. weiland for the next steps. >> thank you so much. we're very grateful. thank you. >> good luck. >> vice president caminong: keep me posted on your inspection. final item on the agenda is item number 7, commissioner comment and questions and new business requests for future items. >> it's so nice to be reviewing place of entertainment permits again. i know staff working super hard throughout all of the pandemic. it feels like we have a purpose of a commission again when we're reviewing entertainment permits. >> i think we have like 10 coming up now that are in hot.

-- hopper with me. people are coming out the wood work. bring it on. >> one quick comment. i like to wish everybody happy aapi heritage month. it's a month about bringing people together, especially celebrating and uplifting diverse a.p.i. community. we need that with the summer with lot of the a.p.i. month. i want to the thank mayor's office for their support of this event. thank you. >> vice president caminong: , it is small business week as we learned from ben from oewd. i believe it is this week. please go out and support the

local small businesses in your neighborhood and throughout the city and obviously spread the word taking photos tag them on your social media. i believe the hashtag is #sfsmallbusinessweek. >> it's also mental health awareness month. incrediblydifferent year we've . kudos for everyone who's gotten through this last 14 months. >> can i put my two cents in now? walking streets are open again in chinatown.

three blocks are closed from california to washington. i think they got their j.a.m. permit maybe. they've been having a few. come on down and i think they're going to have on sunday, the 23rd, some of the schools will be doing some self-defense demonstrations. on memorial weekend, sunday, saturday and sunday we're going to do a car show. little vintage thing, little one block, just a few cars. just trying to bring chinatown back if anybody wants to visit

and spend money down there. the restaurants are open. >> you said it's this weekend? >> no it's open every weekend. saturday and sunday. the event for the self-defense event is going to be may 23rd and then the memorial weekend they plan to do bunch of things. including a little car show. >> great, i'll be there. i have one comment/question. that was i was wondering if there was any possibility we did our retreat in-person? >> no. the issue is our special hearing, we have post on the agenda whole month in advance.

any time we meet outside our regularly scheduled hearing, we have to post that far in event. less than a quorum of us can meet up and party afterwards. or imagine. >> what if we live streamed it at the same time? >> the restreet is being, retreat is being streamed. it's on zoom. i'm happy to ask city attorney to see if there's some work around for an amendment to a hearing agenda for special item like this. it's usually like any time it's outside your regularly schedulely time or location.

i'm happy top ask. it will be so fun to see you all. >> i haven't any met anybody [laughter] >> we can always have meet and greet but we cannot do any commission business. >> we take that test every year. we can talk about everything but our work. >> it's so hard. >> happy mother's day to all the moms out there.

is there any additional comments coming from my commissioners here? no. time for public comment. >> there is no public comment. >> vice president caminong: publ ic comment is closed. meeting is adjourned at 6:46 p.m.

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