mr. miller. any other additional callers on the line for item number 15? >> you have zero questions remaining. >> chair borden: seeing none we will close public comment. that puts us to the end of our agenda and we are now officially adjourned. >> well done, chair borden. >> you're a champ, madam chair. >> thank you, chair borden. >> thank you all.

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completely free of charge. before item 1 i would like to thank sfgovtv and media services for coordinating the hearing and live stream. can we have item 1, please. an. >> call to order and roll call. >> commissioner adams. >> here. >> dickerson. >> here. >> dooley. >> here. >> hule here. >> laguana. >> here. ortiz cartagena. >> here. >> mr. president you have a quorum. >> next item, please. >> item 2. board of supervisors file 210285. planning, business and tax regulations, police codes. some is the small business recovery act.

ordinance amending the planning, business and tax regulations and police codes to simplify procedures and allow flexibility for neighborhood, cultural and entertainment establishments by 1 expanding streamlined review and inspection procedures to storefront uses city-wide. 2, deleting separate definition of cat boarding, jim, trade shop and veryvises from the planning code. 3. allowing permitted conditional uses to continue after three years. 4 allowing continuation of long-standing places of entertainment, 5. allowing outdoor activity areas on rooftops. 6, temporarily requiring conditional use authorization for uses replacing nighttime

entertainment uses, 7. allowing accessory catering uses, 8 knowledge allowing accessory dwelling units on the ground floor. 9. allowing temporary outdoor entertainment, arts and recreation activities. 10. deleting certain considerable use finding requirements for nighttime entertainment. 11, delaying conditional use findings, 12. requiring expedited permit possessing for commercial uses on ground floor. 13 s.shortening time for the historic preservation commission. 14, extending time for limited live performances from 10:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. allowing additional one-time

entertainment permits and one-time outdoor amplified sound permits m16 exempting single individual performances. >> laura and sheila, welcome. happy to see you. thank you for your patience. looking forward to your presentation. let's see it. >> thank you. i am the director of business development for the office of economic and worke forcer development. i was working many of you before the pandemic facing a criessition moment for small business. you were pushing us to take it seriously and do more. in those moments, i don't think any of us were predicting what was to come. seeing the impact of the year of the covid-19 pandemic we know businesses are suffering.

many are adapting to the needs of preferences, new technology, new business models and a need for more flexibility in order to survive. we know that we are facing a new challenge. the other challenge of large number of vacancies one before the pandemic and one exacerbated by the pandemic. we also know that teams like the office of small business are busy during downtown. these are the moments our owners are inspired by an idea or opportunity. the it is our job to ensure they take that leap. oewd and planning joined together to create this legislation. first goal to build upon previous success of bureaucracy and. second enhance flex bill for businesses and third provide both protections and

opportunities for entertainment and cultural establishments. since introduction we are working to ensure they understand this legislation. we have identified two specific changes that we intend to remove from the legislation. we will submit these at land use. first, retain the requirement for concentration calculations for uses. this is an item did community would like to address through broader work they are engaged in cultural district. we are leaving in place until they are able to create unique solution appropriate for neighborhood. second retain linear foot for market retail to address feedback we heard. this was heard by historic preservation commission and entertainment and planning last week. you are our last stop before heading to land use. with that i would hand it over

to sheila for foundational data to all the planning code changes in the legislation. >> thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. i am planning department staff, sheila. this ordinance called small business recovery act is built on three goals to support neighborhood businesses. one build on prop h to simplify opening and operating a neighborhood business. enhance flexibility by implementing recommendations from economic recovery task force to support short term recovery and long-term viability and support shared spaces. protections and opportunities for arts by simplifying the process and encouraging the process between neighborhoods. performance and arts were first to close at the start of

pandemic and last to reopen. the challenges facing the neighborhoods before the pandemic. with the rise of online shopping brick and mortar is shifted to more expireential retail. they buy locally what cannot be bought online. it was a challenge given the high cost of living. regulatory environment made it tough for brick and mortar to adapt to the changing retail landscape. in the past decade one retail sector has grown. that is dining. which shows how jobs have boomed. top four lines of the chart blue restaurants and green is personal care. restaurants were hit hard during the 2008 recession and past year in the pandemic.

we have seen the covid impact in several ways. health regulations pushed businesses to close. as we re-open they are limited to 50% capacity or less. new legislation including prop h changes the environment for retail. the dramatic change in the way people are working is impacting where we travel and shop, dine and socialize. downtown is quiet right now. renewed interest in the neighborhood as workers stay home. transit is limited. it is important to meet daily needs in your home. more about the impacts of covid. in the past year they have been felt by neighborhoods, small businesses patrons and employees. neighborhood commercial districts rely on regional

visitors that will recover in different ways from the neighborhood district catering to the local residents. there has been a 620% increase in moveout rates downtown, chinatown, nob hill. in may change demographics. patrons felt it online sales increase. retail vacancies make it harder to meet needs close to home. uncertainty about pent-up demand. some are eager to return to old habits. neighborhood businesses a year's worth of openings and closings were difficult. opened until december then shut and today we are operating at limited capacity. employees we have seen a lot of jobs in leisure hospitality, food service, drinks.

entertainment lost two times more jobs than national. employees in the retail sector are not white. the covid response has been broad. some city's investments have been closed including grants and loans from the city and federal sources. fee deferrals for registration and cap on delivery fees, shared spaces program permitted more than 2000 businesses to use outdoor space for business operations. commercial eviction moratorium in place through june. $11 million to support 6,000 workers facing financial hardship. in the summer of 2020 the following shelter-in-place orders. the economic recovery task force

identified tangible steps for economic recovery. specifically related to neighborhood businesses the task force report from october 2020 made five recommendations. redesign and eliminate unnecessary permits, expand and support shared spaces, allow more flexible use of ground floor retail. in november 2020 voters approved prop h to reduce the patchwork of regulations on neighborhood businesses. most significant change is 30-day permit possessing system. this ordinance builds on prop h to make it easier for businesses to open and operate. it is a collection of changes with challenges facing the businesses today. now, i will take you into the weeds of what the measures

actually propose to do. first, this ordinance will expand prop h guarantee to process permits within 30-days of application. under prop h the process to all ground floor retail in neighborhood commercial zoning to ground floor retail in all zoning districts. prop h agencies with operational and construction permits, planning, d.b.i., fire, entertainment public works through the administrative system for review. this would expand this benefit to more businesses. 30-day permit possessing for businesses reduces time and costs for applicants and provides value certainty. it benefits city by reducing staff time possessing. second to make this possible for 30-days. small business recovery will

expand the neighborhood notification to save 6 to 8 week this is opening doors. in place for commercial zoning. notification for mixed use areas will be eliminated. it has been useful for neighborhoods that want to attract businesses. planning has been working with mission to develop tools. they will expand access. these are formula retail. this expedited possessing provides 90 day commercial use timeline. inclusion of small formula retail in response to public request for publicly grown. this doesn't change any of the

zoning regulations for formula retail. it is saying we will put the smaller category to ex to ex pe dieted. under current regulation bars with conditional use authorization were to close and the space sits fay can't more than three years the incoming bar would repeat. we are moving the abandonment clause when the new business is not used. second, cently restaurant bar formula retail for conditional use authorization is required to produce concentration calculations based on linear footage analysis within 300 feet of proposed business. this can be costly with a substantial margin of error. if the use isn't clear to aply

can't. the difference between limited restaurant and restaurant for planning code definition may not be clear to the and lay can't collecting the data. many calculations may not represent how one experiences the streetscape. it may not be meaningful measurement. this important note on this one under prop h restaurants are permitted for the next three years. in the short term the impact will be a change for the 23 zoning districts that require s c.u. for bars and the formula retail. this does not change formula retail controls. it removes the requirement that the applicant produce the linear feet calculation. the commerce industry does discourage undesirable concentrations of one type of

use in certain locations in order to contribute to the variety of uses. this can be discretion marry review or other ways of measuring concentration. a larger policy question of uses is part of the planning department retail strategy. the principal may still hold merit regarding concentration. the current process is creating a burden for businesses. under category of enhancing plex built four changes. prop h outdoor activity in neighborhood commercial and transit with specific limitations. ground floor, operating 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. not operating in association with a bar, where associated with limited restaurant the outdoor activity had to include seating, no standing.

alcohol dispensed inside and brought to the table. these were all in place to make sure there was no bar-type places operating outside. this ordinance would permit rooftop uses with the same provision as those uses permissible. outdoor paces for lifeline during the pandemic continuing through recovery. subject to health and safety requirements. in almost all neighborhood districts, restaurants to rooftop in single story only. small business recovery act will allow restaurants to host catering businesses. this gives the entrepreneurs more opportunities to share space and operating costs. dining industry is particularly hit hard by the pandemic. this would offer a path to recovery. third, on the list it would allow a.d.u.s in the rear of

the ground floor face if 25 feet is maintained. code currently allows not a.d.u. so long as the ground floor meets active use. it can take over any amount except with from 25 feet this. would allow an a.d.u. allowance under the same provision for regular dwelling unit, they must be accessory to residential. this would only be applied to mixed use including commercial and remember. this may give more flexibility and they will be subject to a.d.u. programs including rent control policy. last is simplifying the retail definition. the small business recovery act will delete cat boarding and

trade shop and categoryvise those. they just get moved to a higher level hierarchy. it deletes instructional service to make those part of personal service. this reduces overall number of separate retail definitions and decrease need for change of use permits. specifically for uses that are similar like personal service and instructional services. on the ground floor this will not trigger any changes to the cat boarding or instructional service, make trade shop more permissible in one neighborhood district. the last category supporting arts and culture. laura will walk you through the changes. >> thank you, sheila.

currently we are allowing temporary enter at the same time uses outdoors to ensure that as part of our expansion of moving outdoors there is a path for businesses to incorporate entertainment. it still requires a permit. it gives a path through planning department. we are going to require conditional use for removal of nighttime entertainment. this is the idea that the industry that is uniquely hit by the pandemic being shut first and one of the last to be allowed to reopen to full capacity. because of this we are the legislation proposes anyone who wants to remove nighttime entertainment use for the next three years and then it expires get conditional use approval to ensure there is a moment with the community and neighbors to

make sure everyone is aware of the changes the property owner is considering. we want to -- >> you want me to do this one? >> yes. >> removing duplicate fees for nighttime entertainment. currently the planning commission applies conditions to ceu. those duplicate the conditions by the entertainment condition. we are taking this requirement away. they can apply conditions if they want. what is happening with two sets of requirements placed on a business if they ever change the business has to come back through the entertainment commission and planning commission. we want to remove that redundancy. it doesn't mean conditions are going away.

we are no longer going to require planning to impose them. >> thanks, sheila. >> there are a number of long standing nighttime entertainment. [indiscernable] land use authority from planning. in this moment of time we know the businesses are facing changes looking for new ownership and there is fear from the people coming in to continue the businesses of the land use process. what this is proposing is that when long standing nighttime entertainment use is operating with all of the required permits from departments like the entertainment commission for at least 10 years, zoning administrator will add mince straighttively place the land use authorization and not go through conditional use.

this is someone operating, known to the city more than 10 years with per mets. that we have access to this. the next final changes are to the police code. first is that we would like to remove requirement for limited live performance permit. if you have someone who is performing without amplification and is a so low performers. this is the you were booking a guitarist to a book reading. a solo creating atmosphere to draw you in. they should not be required to get a permit. we do still believe that permits should be required for more than one perform error if they are amplified. in those cases the business is currently able to get a permit

that and they can go back after a year of operation and request extension to 11:00 p.m. we don't believe this needs to come back to the commission to ask again. we believe the condition should have as part of their ability the ability for that performance to go to 11:00 p.m. starting from the beginning. we want be to allow one-time entertainment permits more than 12 times per year. the commission will still have authority over there and after 13 times of one-time permits they will look to ensure the use of this permit is not to avoid getting a different permit. if your restaurant has a rock band every saturday night for 12 saturdays in a row, on the 13th saturday the entertainment commission will likely say, hey, business owner you are avoiding place of entertainment permit.

if you are a farmers market in the sunset and you want to add a guitarist every other saturday with amplification, that sounds like something that is appropriate and that the commission shove the opportunity to allow to happen more than 12 times per year to draw people into the space. that is what we are proposing here. i did want to clarify a few items that some people have seem to be confused about. i want to be clear we are not changing the requirement for formula retail. all formula retile is required for conditional use. we are not changing pdr regulations or protection. not changing any zoning tables except in limited cases where we made trade shops more permissible on upper stories. we are not changing the public process for entertainment. businesses will have to be

publicly noticed and get permits from the commission. the public will still have the opportunity at those hearing. where entertainment is appropriate those permits should move forward and we should move the bureaucratic hurdles in the way. >> great. somebody needs to mute. commissioners, do we have any comment? or questions? >> commissioner dooley. >> i have a couple questions. one is the part of this program

about making more things available for our cb p program. i wanted why it says medical cannabis. basically there are very few now. almost all of the dispensaries are going to be not strictly medical. is there some reason that the majority of cannabis dispensaries are excluded out from this cb 3p? >> actually it currently nonmedical cannabis is included. only medical cannabis is excluded. we didn't see a reason to make it harder for medical cannabis than retail. that is the intention of the change. >> my other question was on the rooftop operations, how is that in terms of mixed use where it is only on a single story?

a lot of neighborhoods have retail on the ground floor then residents on the higher floors. would they be allowed to add outdoor rooftop operations above the residence? >> it is complicated. >> for door it has to be approved on that floor and comply without door activity regulations. to be an approved use. we looked at all of the neighborhood commercial zoning. restaurant is only permitted on second floor, not on the third floor. it would be allowed with a first floor with nothing above it. there wouldn't be a situation

with a restaurant then two floors of residential then elevator to the roof. that is not permitted under current regulations. >> thank you. >> okay. great. commissioner ortiz. >> i am in support of the legislation and spirit of it. to laura you have taken time to listen to us in the mission district, getting a reputation as someone we can trust. sometimes we don't agree with you, we know you have come from a good place. with that said, you know, in my neighborhood in the mission there are concerns. one of those is allowing catering use. we don't know how that can be

exploited with ghost kitchens. notifications. removal of any notification in our neighborhood is very, very sensitive issue. the conditional use i am one of the biggest fans in my neighborhood expediting anything it just doesn't allow the community that is spread thin dealing with so many other issues from food scare city to housing. it doesn't allow time for input. planning and zoning is where gentrification happens. this is it and since it is not sexy it doesn't get the pr

press. no marches behind planning and zoning. this is the concern in the mission. overall i am a business person with the whole legislation. i know we need it. it is just some concerns in my neighborhood and a know you have taken a lot of time to hear us out. i just wanted to say that. >> thank you. i am thankful for the time you have taken with me. there are a million priorities in the mission, many food scare city and things much more important than be this. the catering. i want to clarify the changes to catering are accessory to established restaurant. we currently allow this in the restaurant. if i had a bagel shop that doesn't serve alcohol and i am only open until 2:00.

after i close when my space is closed you commissioners could come in to start granola manufacturing. you could use my commercial business and help me with rest. my business must remain open. this is allowed throughout our restaurants. as soon as my bagel shops serves champagne you would no longer use my space because i would be full-service. it shouldn't change your ability to use it when i am already closed. that is what this is proposing. the ghost kitchen has such a requirement for active space. i don't think that is a loophole. >> did you also want to -- the

commissioner mentioned notifications. did you want to speak to that? this is the only way a business for principally permitted uses only, first of all. it essentially adds on average 60 to 90 days for a permit. if we want to allow businesses in all neighborhood permitted to get permits from us in 30-days, there is no way for those two things to marry. we believe it is important that keeping neighborhoods competitive to attract businesses. if it is going to take 90 days longer if i move to soma than hayes valley thanks is a problem for that district. we believe it is an important removal. i understand the community's frustration. i believe we have other tools to utilize through the community. i would like to work with you on

that. i do believe that is the important change. the expediting of c.u.s, i think that as a city it is our job to promise people they can have an answer in the certain amount of time. that is what i believe this does. it doesn't promise an outcome but an answer from the city that you will get to commission in 90 days and we will tell you what we think. i hear that is a huge burden on communities. a burden that has to be more responsive. i think we have to be as a city responsive to multiple constituents and small accident owners are one of those. this is us trying to find the balancing act, yes, this causes concern, yes, we are going to hold ourselves to a standard and get to that place where you can get that answer within a timely

fashion. i understand that is a place we will probably not come to agreement. i do want to note that it is excluded from this process. quatro does continue to have the historic process that this would speed up some uses for the first conditional use in the mission. i understand that is a concern. >> any o questions? okay. vice president zouzounis. >> thank you both. great to have you here. i have a question. in section 30.2 eligibility for ex i dieted possessing -- expedited possessing. is that amending the language

cdp? >> we are calling it cd3p this. is what we are amending giving more uses access to it and removing a few things that excluded you before such as alcohol. it is up for debate. something like beer should be disqualifying for the business owner for access to the program. we are proposing that is not it. >> that is great. i know that there has been other ordinances and resolutions passed by the supervisors that want to do what you just said and make cb 3p more accessible with businesses with regulatory likenesses. the economic mitigation working group that produced 15 recommendations passed by the

board include tobacco licenses to be part of that. i am curious if that is considered since that was a resolution adopted by the board to make sure that our immigrant retailers are not excluded from the program, too? that is a question that i had. also, we have seen in our last meeting a stand alone ordinance from supervisor peskin's office that we have seen a couple times relating to c.u. businesses that have to relocate. because they are tobacco license business he has to make a whole new ordinance because there isn't ability for city construction or a fire, right? for a business to be able to take their c.u. when they

relocate. small business commission did recommend that we make this more permanent statute in our planning code so key don't have to keep doing one resolution whenever they need to move with that type of license. i am curious if that is considered in this process. that was my question. if section 303.2 includes relocation as opposed to establishment of license? >> it does not. that is an interesting topic that we should look at further for another piece of legislation. i appreciate the suggestion. >> do you mind clarifying number two where it says it can't go on that same section it is discussing the tenant

improvements allowed? >> let me find it. >> i am curious if there are allowances that need to be written out a little more clear so people know if there is a type of tenant improvement not allowed in that section? >> let me refresh that while we keep going and i will get to you unless sheila has that in this moment. >> no problem. >> it is limited to changes of use tenant improvements or interior or storefront work. i am curious what that means if there is anything we need to make more clear there. >> what was the section number on that one?

>> section 303.2 possessing in commercial space, reduce application fee, eligibility possessing number two. it is limited to changes of use, tenant improvements or storefront work. >> we will keep going on with questions. >> we can do that. vice president zouzounis, did you have more questions? >> no.

>> commissioner hule. >> thank you very much for the presentation. all of the work that i am sure has gone into this legislation as well. just quick question about the process. they have always been complaint driven. we never really got a neighborhood notification that something was going to happen until they had to do neighborhood notification and the residents in the area would do whatever would get notified. as a merchant's association it is body if we were notified or not. the last couple formula retail storefronts in contention were

triggered by neighborhood complaints and neighbors looking into whether they had applied for c.u. and things like that. my question is there a current list of who gets notified in terms of the neighborhood organizations? you know, just wondering what that process looked like on your end so if we are shortening the time, you know, part of that is just knowing what is coming down the line. this this is a little drop off of what commissioner ortiz cartagena mentioned. we would also know who to look for for the information so we can get together a community

opinion. >> there is an opt-in list the planning department maintains for certain kinds of notification. that is one plan. the planning department developed a notification system for the mission specifically. i think there are others. it is a detailed question about notification. i don't know the full answer to but i would be happy to get back to you with the specific list of ways that the community can be proactive or stay proactively informed about things like this. >> it is my understanding and laura and sheila correct me if i am wrong on this. it is my understanding neighborhood associations and merchant associations this is what you are referring to with the opt-in list, sheila. they are automatically notified

when the permits are coming through. they are signed up and they automatically get that notification. >> yes, that's right. >> i mean i know that is the way it is supposed to be. for some reason we are not always getting them. we don't get them if somebody is supposed to apply for one and doesn't apply because there is no mechanism to track that. it is i think on the ground it is challenging sometimes because you do tend to be the kind of person policing your neighborhood for new businesses which you don't want to be. you want to be the one to welcome everybody. it turns into this kind of a little bit of disorganization on

the ground. >> president laguana you are right. i would like to dig in to the planning process to make sure there is not a typo. what is happens is making you slip in and out. that shouldn't be happening. you should get the notifications every time. i would like to work on that. >> commissioners i did find the section you were talking about. the intention of the section is to limit who has access to this in the sense that if you are getting a conditional use to expand office space on the 12th story of a space where we required it requires conditional use you do not have access. we are thinking about the capacity of the planning commission to hear these in 90 days. by limiting to first and second where we are really trying to prioritize the activation of

streetscape. that is the intention of the language. you have to have access to the process, creativity on the ground floor. >> thank you. >> all right. i don't see questions from other commissioners. let me just say how much i appreciate all of the work that you all are doing on this important piece of legislation to help small businesses recover. in particular, i want to commend you as commissioner ortiz cartagena said to outreach with communities that are sensitive. you know, it is challenging work to come up with city-wide policy that also works in our most

critical cultural districts and finding ways to move forward. thank you for that work and thank you for listening. that is high praise coming from commissioner ortiz cartagena. that means a lot to me. that is really important to get it right with our cultural districts and support them. i had one quick question to what you are presenting. one of your staff aid 53% of san francisco retail was nonwhite. i was wondering if that was just pure retail and not including restaurant or also included restaurants? >> i believe that includes restaurants as well. >> usually retail is ex

clusexclusive. i don't see any other commissioner questions. i am familiar with the work you guys are doing. i think what we will do now is check to see if there is any public comment. >> commissioner there are six callers listening but zero in the queue with questions. >> all right. seeing no questions, public comment is closed. commissioners do we have a motion or would you like me to make a motion. >> motion to approve the ordinance. >> we have a motion by commissioner adams to approve the ordinance as is. do we have a second. >> second. >> seconded by commissioner

dooley. roll call. commissioner adams. >> yes. >> commissioner dickerson. >> yes. >> commissioner duly. >> yes. >> commissioner hule. >> yes. >> commissioner laguana. >> yes. >> commissioner ortiz cartagena. >> no. >> commissioner. >> yes. >> that motion passes 7-1. 7 yes and one no. >> 6-1. >> excuse me. 6-1. >> thank you for the presentation.

>> are we ready for the next item. >> next item is item 3. this is board of supervisors file no. 210303. it is amending the administrative code creating a neighborhood anchor business registry. this amends the ads enough code to create a neighborhood anchor accident registry under the office of small business and make it city policy to promote participation by neighborhood anchor businesses in city grant programs for small businesses and for commercial eviction defense. ian fergosi is here to present.

i have a slide to present. let me bring that up. >> welcome to the commission. >> thank you all for having me. hello. thank you, president laguana and commissioners for having me this evening. i am ian fergosi, aid to supervisor co n nie. we are excited to talk about our legislation to create a neighborhood anchor business registry. i have talked to a couple of you

about this. i am excited to speak to the full commission to hear your feedback. the background and the purpose of this legislation and why supervisor chan wanted to bring this forward because as we are recovering from the pandemic we can agree it is really crucial that the city does everything it can to support our local small businesses, particularly those who are serving our neighborhoods and bringing foot traffic to the commercial corridors for decades. over the years these are businesses that have proven themselves as viable to the neighborhoods. we believe they should be priortized for legal aid to prevent them from being

displaced. the legislation which was introduced by supervisor chan and cosponsored by supervisors haney, ronen, preston and walton. this would expand on existing legacy business program by creating a second tier of small businesses designated as neighborhood anchor businesses. i will talk about the qualifications. it would make city policy to prioritize both legacy businesses and neighborhood anchor businesses for grant and loan programs for san francisco businesses subject to legal restrictions. we are considering that feedback

soon. also, priority for commercial lease assistance. conflict resolution or commercial eviction programs for san francisco businesses. such as legal restrictions. the qualifications for becoming a neighborhood anchor business. 100 or fewer employees consistent with the definition of small business and would also address -- make it so that along with intent for local small businesses as opposed to formula retailers and second thing would be requiring the businesses that have been in operation for 15 or more years in a storefront in a neighborhood commercial historic or conservation district in san francisco. they can have a break-in

operations of up to two years and having the shutdown during the covid pandemic would not count against it at all. that is consistent with the legacy business program. also no pending complaints or findings of misconduct within the past five years from labor agencies. we want to invest in good employers. in order to become a neighborhood anchor business, the business could be nominated by the local merchant association or by petition signed by 50 or more residents who live within one mile of the business. then, of course, confirmed by the office of small business. priority and equity goals for our office on this. this legislation is intended to

expands and enhance the legacy business program by providing new benefits to the legacy businesses. in addition to creating second tier of neighborhood anchor businesses. this would not affect the existing rent stabilization fund which would be exclusively for legacy businesses. these additional businesses that we would additional benefits that would be granted to both legacy and be neighborhood anchor businesses. in order to advance the city's racial equity and language access goal, we want to encourage black and indigenous and people of color that serve communities of color and non english speakers to apply. often times those business with

nonenglish speakers are not aware of programs offered by the city and potential resources. we want to make that a priority that we are doing outreach to those businesses and especially those that serve our communities of color. on feedback abrepresentations, we have been discussing this with a lot of different stakeholders and folks including chambers of commerce and the council of merchants association and a lot of other individuals and stakeholders and the first and foremost we want to make sure that the office of small business has the staff and capacity necessary to carry this out effectively. our office has been in touch with both the mayor's budget office and the budget chair

haney, cosponsor, to make sure this is a priority the small business office has the staff it needs and we also advocate for more money allocated to the legacy business program. it still has the original $1 million budget that it wanted to pass several years ago. we hope to expand on that as well. calling out the racial equity goals mentioned in the legislative review making sure that we are that any prioritization is going to advance our racial equity goals and language access goals. also, i mentioned this earlier the formula retail component which i wanted to address again with 100 gees or less making sure that this is -- 100 employees or less for the local

small businesses in san francisco and not for any large chain or formula retail. another suggestion about limiting the financial aid prioritization for grants and loans to specifically covid recovery which we have discussed and we think it is a good idea because it is really meant to make sure as we come out of this recession triggered by covid we are saving the businesses that are sacred to our communities. a couple more we actually have not really had a chance to discussion. they are included. i am sure the director will talk about this. limiting the program to for profit businesses and also allowing additional

organizations such as neighborhood organizations with potential ability to nominate groups to act for places that don't have merchant association or more in touch with those businesses that are not as connected or that don't speak english as first language. those are some of the feedback and recommendations that we are considering right now. thank you again for having me. i would be happy to take your questions. >> i have a cough. i have been muting. that is why i didn't greet you when you joined. thank you for the great presentation. commissioner adams you are first in line.

>> thank you, ian. this is very good. i like this legislation. one concern you already addressed that is letting other organizations such as cdps and other neighborhood groups because there are neighborhoods that we just don't have merchant organizations or very poor ones. it is important we get those included. the other thing is could you guarantee another person in the office of small business to manage this? right now we are very short staffed. if today we had somebody apply for this program and they were told due to the volume of stuff going on in the office of small business, their application is not going to be heard for at year.

-- another year. you are not helping if you don't have people to manage the programs. you have the entertainment fund put on with no f.t.e. now we have this. i want something to give us some extra manpower to help manage this. >> absolutely. we are making that case right now. we believe that this is totally in line with the mayor's small business recovery and relatively speaking there is budget constraints. we know that because of the pandemic. we think this is more than worthwhile to add additional staff to carry out this program. we are making a case. i can't personally guarantee because i don't control the purse strings.

i can tell you that is one of our top budget priorities and we have made that very clear to the mayor's budget office and also to budget chair haney. >> thank you. >> any other commission questions? >> ian, thank you. i appreciate you and the supervisor taking the consideration of making the prioritization for loans and grants covid based under consideration. i also want to highlight because this is the first that i have seen or heard this that you are considering making this pro profit only. i think that is a good step in the right direction. it will be something that would be well received, especially given the stuff that we have

seen happen with the legacy program and rent availablization programming. i want to inbe can you remembering you and your office as i mentioned when -- encourage you and your office when we think about how to help encourage our new businesses as we fill out these vacancies that are pro liferating all over the city. if someone qualifies and becomes part of this new program, is there a point where after a certain number of years they are rolled into the legacy business because they have gotten to that number of years? are these going to remain separate categories? >> that is a great question.

that is one we have heard only from one person so far who suggested that. what if you just make businesses automatically once they turn 30 years old they automatically join the legacy business program? i think that is something we would look to a body like yours for your thoughts on that. it is an interesting idea. we are very sensitive to making sure this is enhancing the legacy business program and not in competition in any way. i would be most curious to hear what you think about that. we are very open to that idea. we would want it to make sense. given we understand that. the idea behind this if we want this to be lower barrier to

entree with businesses not around for 30 years. it may make sense. we want to encourage those businesses that reach legacy age they would want that legacy status. we are open but would want to hear from stakeholders like yourself what you all think about that. >> thank you. >> i am a little confused about the status of nominating right now. your presentation said 50 or more or merchant association. the amendments i have been given it sounds like only a merchant association that are on the list or are nominated by the director of the office of small business. i guess where do you see the

nomination process finalizing? it is hard to see because the legislation is obviously in flux and a lot is changing. what is the current thinking how the nomination process will look like? >> it is a question if we are going to add the additional organizations that could serve the same purpose as a merchant association? >> it wasn't the most well formulatedded question. does the -- is it still possible in the final version for 50 people within a one mile zone to nominate a business? >> that is currently in legislation. we are keeping that. the question is there are two

options one is merchant association making the nomination. second is 50 signatures. we are considering based on feedback from the office of small business if we should add a third option which would be a neighborhood organization or some other cbo or someone else determined by the director as additional nominating authority. that is a new concept we are just starting to think about. >> to maybe elaborate on my recommendation is that the the two options are -- the merchants association or the petition,

then what i am trying to fall for is the ability to add -- the ability to identify additional organizations that would have the same role as the merchants association can then help broaden the number of businesses that would be nominated, particularly organizations that would represent businesses that are either the owners are not, english is not the first language. [please stand by]

. >> i think, you know, it's a

really good idea, and that's why we're considering that. but, you know, that -- it really comes down to things like that and priority type of outreach that comes down to sort of the traditional business organizations that are not connected with traditional fitness organizations. >> yeah. i guess i'm just think bg the -- of course, the neighborhood associations themselves aren't under -- we don't have the influence to control who they nominate because they're not part of the city, so presumably, and hopefully, it'll all work out well, but that has not always been the greatest plan in the past, so i'm just thinking prescriptively how we get ahead of that.

commissioner huie? >> thank you very much. i have just a few questions. along the same lines in terms of, like, outreach, is there a game plan at this moment to promote this and for the outreach? i mean, definitely outreach itself is going to be important so far, but as far as who and what? i mean generally, looking at the legacy business program already, i think for one person to administer the program itself takes up almost 100% of their time, and if there's no allocation for someone to do outreach, who then is expect today do it or can there be an additional person beyond what's been asked to do outreach? >> you know, that's come up a couple of times, so i just -- ian, please allow me to jump in

on your behalf for just a second here. >> yes. >> so supervisor haney is chair of budget, and so -- and i know their office is interested in adding to o.s.b. staff. i think the challenge is there's no way, with the way the city budgeting works, they can't, like, snap their fingers and make somebody appear. so it would be a fair amount of time, i think whenever the next budget happens, and the hiring process, they've got to list a job. ian, you can correct me if i am wrong on any of this, but the earliest we can get somebody would be next spring, summer-ish, and i could be wrong. it could be a little sooner

than that. but then, it's not normal -- typically, legislation won't have a budget aspect in the legislation itself. that happens in the budget committee and through the mayor's office. so you wouldn't write into your legislation oh, we're going to put $1 million for staff, and then all the suits would vote on it. that's not how the budgeting process works. and ian, i didn't mean to jump in, but there's been a lot of conversation about that, and you can correct me if i'm wrong. >> yeah. responding to commissioner adams' comment before, we can't write it into the legislation

because there's no staffing for it. but the reason we're doing this at the same time we're advocating for those positions while enacting legislation, but one of the other things that we're hoping is -- and the office of economic and workforce development -- and i wouldn't know how long it's going to take to hire things, but the office of economic and workforce development would be able to provide some sort of assistance, at least in the interim, and again, other conversations we're having, and we have a new director there, and so they may be, i'm assuming, mixing things up. and that may be a good opportunity to identify someone who can step in in the interim and help with that. but any way that we're able to identify the support need today get, you know, businesses

registered, do the outreach, you know, get people excited about supporting our small businesses during this recovery, and having as strong a recovery as possible, we're for that, so any ideas you have, we are all for that. >> i just want to point out that i understand it's not going to be happen today, to be able to put this in the legislation, but i think it is my obligation as a commissioner to point out the missing pieces. when we're talking about not till next spring -- summer or spring, and this is supposed to be a piece of covid recovery legislation, then, you know, like, you know, i have to paint that into a real timeline. so we're saying that we're going to talk about this legislation and get people excited about it, but, like,

when is it going to start and, like, what is going to be the actual benefit at that point? so, i mean, i just don't -- you know, i caution, you know, i -- i don't know. i'm having a tough time grappling with the idea of creating more legislation that's sounding really wonderful and supportive but does not offer any true benefit, but what are we going to do? how are we going to create more excitement over something we can't promote until spring, or we can promote, but we don't have logistically people to sign them up till spring? like, that's not what my merchant friends want. and i think with what -- what i do appreciate, though, is the spirit of recovery and the

spirit of support. so for sure, i hear that, and i appreciate that, but i think i'm having a tough time understanding how this is going to actually be administered, if that's the reality of the situation and the timeline. >> i'm not sure about the timeline. i -- maybe director dick-endrizzi could speak to that, but no, we would not want to have any false notions of being able to do something that we can't, and we'd want to have solutions and help find them. >> so the good news is this is a -- today, this is a discussion item, and this is all important feedback i think

that we're all reporting about the budget, and ian will be taking that back to supervisor chan, and there will be more conversations to be had before it comes back to us to be an action item, and hopefully, we'll have more answers by then. hopefully, as ian pointed out. it's not uncommon for departments to borrow employees on a short-term basis, and that could be one way of solving this. but there are conversations that need to happen, and this is very much still a cake in the oven. but you're exactly right to point that out, commissioner huie, and commissioner adams, that that's a critical part. we shouldn't be making promises we can't keep, and we're going to put it out there, let's make sure we can deliver. did you have more questions, commissioner huie? >> i just had one. i had one in terms of formula retail, and how does that fit into anchoring neighborhood businesses? are they eligible?

i think i saw, but i don't recall exactly. >> yeah. what i just mentions is the reason we had set that -- the limit at 100 employees or less for businesses, the reason we wanted to was to focus on small businesses and not formula retail. that's really what that is, is to make sure that the intent was for local small businesses to benefit. >> and it's any businesses. it doesn't have to be, like, a retail street facing business? it can be, like, an office or something? >> well, actually, it does say having a storefront in commercial district, so it is more -- you know, because we're

really looking at businesses that are critical to the communities that they're in and already are helping bring other foot traffic in to support the corridor, you know, the commercial corridor around them. so, like, an office business wouldn't be unless they have like a street fronting, a retail space. >> okay. thank you very much for your clarification. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioner ortiz-cartagena? >> thank you, president laguana. thank you for the presentation. i'll be brief. just appreciate staffer. it's very important because the unintended consequence of not staffing this, always people of color are the ones that get underserved the most in situations like this. again, like my other

commissioners huie and adams said, make sure we get staffing for this position, that's all, for small business. thank you. >> thank you. vice president zouzounis? >> thank you. thank you. i have a question. the period -- the part that is referencing a minimum period of closure for eligibility, does that include temporary closures due to construction or disasters or soft-story retrofit? does that need to be specified or do you think that it's covered? >> you know, we -- this just took this directly from the legacy business, like, definition, so -- so to be honest, i don't know, but if it's shutting down

operations -- so i don't know. i would assume that, like, construction period would be included in there, but we also say any shutdown during the covid period would not affect that at all. >> so i don't remember. was there any specific time? when you say low barrier programs, are you referring to just the number of years a business has to be in operation to be considered or do you

mean, like, in its implementation and -- and ability for a business to pass through this process and successfully get on the registry? >> yes, both, really, i mean, because obviously, it's half the amount of time that the business has been operational as a legacy business, so it's not at that level. but also, you know, going through, you know, being nominated by a merchant association or by their own, you know, petitions that they gather from customers as opposed to being nominated by a supervisor or the mayor, and then also being approved by the office of small business as opposed to needing to schedule a hearing date at the small business commission, so both of those things. >> yeah. those are good points that you mentioned. i guess my fear of where it

might get stuck in the process, the legacy asks the business to self-certify if they have not had any labor violations, and then, we -- our office isn't required to check with olmb. so it's asking the office of small business to certify this prior to any sort of fiscal introduction, and that is not low barrier. so if you ask a legacy business coordinator how even the olse timeline works, it is a long, long, long, long process for

each application. so that's one question i had, is why do you -- why is -- do businesses say we have to introduce a state agency into this and have it as a preliminary process. and then, that's one question i have about the low barrier process. and then, the second is an application, so are you -- is the application process something that we do after this passes and it's something that is presented to the office of small business or is that something that we create after the fact? yeah, i had a question about that, so i think those are my two for right now. >> right. yes, good questions. one, the first one, i'm glad you brought that up because i didn't actually bring this up in the original feedback that i was talking about, but one thing i did get to discuss with

director dick-endrizzi is we have discussed that with the city attorney, and we are going to be changing to the self-certify as opposed to -- because for the reasons you mentioned. i don't need to state it perfectly. those are barriers that we did not intend to add, but we are going to make that change, so thank you for mentioning that. and then, the second piece was -- sorry. can you repeat the same question again? >> yeah. it was about the application, because i know -- >> right. >> -- there's language in there that says the office of small business is responsible for standing this up, when i think a recommendation we had planned to make is once an application is provided to us, but i just wanted to understand what that means. >> yes, so that was a

recommendation. so two parts of that. the application, yes, would be created by the office of small business, and one of the amendments that we discussed would be to change the -- the -- right now, it says there needs to be a report within 30 days of the legislation becoming effective. we would add an amendment as recommended by the office of small business, make that 30 days after the application is presented, is basically made available. so that would -- i hope that answers your question. does it? >> yes, thank you. okay. so if i may, i have a couple more comments. i know you were receptive to

the prioritization question, so where is that now, as far as businesses on this registration having priority to grants? >> yeah. so the language would be to change to say you have access to grant and loans -- or priority, prioritization for grants and loans related to covid recovery, so it would just be adding that to say it's related to covid recovery. okay. and i assume, like, we're talking about grants that might be with different agencies in the city, so is this language going to be enforceable in a way that different agencies will have to adhere to it in their dissemination of grants? >> yeah. i think it says in there that all city agencies would have to comply with the office of small business in administering this and making sure those goals are realized.

>> yeah, that's helpful. and just the last comment i'll make is i agree with my colleagues here about olsb in this. we should also have the option of the director being able to okay another organization to nominate, and lastly, i also agree that we should make this up for profit only registry as part of our final recommendation because just the capacity of the office of small business, we're not able to field nonprofit bookkeeping questions, so the technical supports that would be, you know, provided to businesses is not something that we even have the capacity to do at this point in time. thank you so much. >> thank you.

i appreciate the [inaudible]. >> commissioner dooley? >> i wanted to talk about the rollout of this program is not going to be maybe realistically a year from now? what will be the effect, if any, if the covid situation has more or less resolved itself in terms of on a daily basis for our businesses? will this become a moot -- will this cancel this legislation? curious about that, and i just want to add, like all my other fellow commissioners, you know, i am apprehensive of supporting legislation that would put an additional burden on the office of small business with no real guarantees that we're going to be able to do it. we don't want to be in a

position where we can't fulfill what's laid out in this legislation, so that really worries me, and so i think that is just the huge elephant in the room. we know that we're basically understaffed as it is, and if -- if we didn't get another full time employee, we're just not going to be able to do this. and i know myself and probably the other commissioners, i don't want to be put in that position is saying well, we can't execute this program, so it's just a huge issue in terms of our commission. that's it. >> president laguana, is it okay for me to -- >> yes. >> okay. absolutely. so i'm not sure, you know, when the next -- this is the first time i'd heard the idea of this being not until next spring, so i think we are doing everything

we can, but i think we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we can -- that we get the staffing or we get whatever's necessary as soon as possible, but i think what solves for that issue and not putting the office in the awkward position is as the office has suggested is the sort of promotional and the reporting and all of that wouldn't come due until 30 days after the application for the program is released, so we're not telling people, like, hey there's this new thing you should sign up for now, and it's not actually happening. it wouldn't happen until after that is released, so i think that's the attempt to solve for that. >> so i did want to say, for the benefit of the commission, i didn't mean to suggest there was a specific [inaudible]

we've known now for three months that we would be needing a commission secretary, and we're just now reviewing the applications, so i'm just doing some mental health. if this legislation were to pass in july, or if this legislation were to pass fairly soon, there would be a budget process to make that position available, and once the position was approved, there would have to be a job listing, and there would have to be interviews, and then, the person would be hired. i'm just mentally guesstimating that that wouldn't be this year, but i'm not the expert on this, and i didn't mean to put in the commission's mind a specific time frame. rather, it wasn't going to be something that was overnight or

instantaneous. so commissioner adams? >> yeah, really quick. you said this was an action item, and i'm showing on the list this is an action item, as well. >> in my notes, i have action and discussion. director dick-endrizzi. >> then that's an error on my side in terms of your notes. it is a discussion item on your agenda. apologize to you for that, president laguana. >> commissioner adams, thank you for bringing that to my attention. do you have a question on that? >> no, i'm good. >> okay. commissioner huie? >> as i'm thinking the thought process of the origin story of,

like, the legislation, i would like to hear the story of how you and supervisor chan and your office, you know, came up with the legislation. i just -- yeah, absolutely. the -- supervisor chan, before she was elected, thought this was something coming out of the pandemic, knowing that there would be the eviction moratorium in place, which was going to be lifted, that there's going to be a lot of --

anything related to commercial lease assistance aid, preventing evictions, so that's what this came out of. we started having conversations with different merchants and different, you know, organizations to get ideas about what this could look like, and that's -- this is where we ended uplanding on this, but that's really what it started from is the need to protect businesses that are assets as we come out of the pandemic and the restrictions are lifted. >> i think that's important for me to understand because my personal belief about

legislation is it should be solving for something. i mean, it's not a question that i always ask, but it's a question that came to mind as we started to talk more about this particular piece of legislation to really kind of understand what the specific issues were that you felt that, you know, could resolve, so thank you. >> thank you. ian, just two quick questions, or maybe not quick questions. i shouldn't prejudge, but just a few questions before we go to public comment. what is a neighborhood anchoring business? >> absolutely, yeah. so i -- when we think about -- you're -- i'm assuming you're meaning beyond just those

strict criteria that we lay out? >> yeah. i'll tell you where i'm coming from. there's a strict applying process, so i'm wondering what is the magic sauce that is the delta between the criterias outlined in the nominating process? what is what makes a business an anchoring business? >> yeah. it's a business that's a part of the community, and it brings in people to the area or maybe outside of the area and it's beneficial to the corridor and all of the businesses on the corridor. that's really what the heart of what we feel an anchor business

is. >> okay. so -- and yeah, i think i'm going to leave it there for now. so with that, is there any public comment on this item? >> mr. president, we have nine callers listening and two in the queue to speak. >> okay. let's have the first caller. caller, please go ahead. >> oh, okay. this is tom. let me kill my audio. okay. hi, this is tom frank. i'm one of the owners of finnegans wake. >> oh, tom, i'm sorry. i think you're calling about the legacy business, and we're

hearing public comment on a separate item. >> okay. >> we'll -- >> i'll wait. >> yeah, that'd be great. thank you. next caller, please. >> hi, good evening. this is earl shattuck, the economic of [inaudible] on third. thank you, commissioners, and president laguana, for vetting out this legislation. i think it'll be extremely impactful in the bayview-hunters point. specifically, i had communicated with commissioner dickerson as i was just overviewing the legislation. it came to mind that almost all of our african american owned businesses on the third street corner are in fact 15 years older or longer, so they would all be pretty darn good candidates for this, and i would also like to encourage

all of you commissioners, if possible, to amend this, or at least strongly encourage, that a third party or a c.b.o. gets a seat at the table or has the ability to nominate these businesses. i think it's extremely important that those c.b.o.s that are on the ground interacting with these businesses that are sometimes hard to rash, -- reach, that we somehow move the legislation forward. with that, i thank you for hearing this legislation. thank you. >> thank you, earl. are there anymore callers? >> mr. president, there are no more callers in the queue. >> okay. thank you. commissioners, i'm going inform make a motion to continue this item.

there's a lot of discussion how the office of small business will meet this legislation, and there's still, to me, a lot of balls in the air. i would move that we continue this to a later hearing, and once things are a little more finalized and we know what we're voting on. >> do we have a time -- and excuse me for not putting my name in -- for when this is going to be heard at either the committee or at the board of supervisors? >> ian, do you have a calendar on when this would be heard at the board of supervisors or any committee? >> i don't. it was being planned to be heard in the next meeting in

two weeks, but other than that, i don't know. >> we can hear it at the next meeting and move it up if it looks like it's going to be heard at the board soon. >> second. >> wait a minute. for clarification, if i may, are we able to add a recommendation onto this motion to -- to -- >> a recommendation onto the motion to continue? we've made a bunch of recommendations during the meeting, but director, can a motion to continue also have recommendations attached to it? >> yes, it can. so if there are specific -- as -- because your motion is to continue to hear this, which is you're wanting to bring it back after some more deliberation, correct? so if there are very specific

things you want to ensure even though the commission is not ready to take final action but get amended or considered between now and the next time that you hear it, then those -- it would be advised to stipulate those. >> yes. so commissioners, would you like to amend the motion with any additional recommendations for the benefit of the supervisor? >> i would like to include language that makes sure that this is not going to be approved without us hearing it again, and that our recommendations that were made in this meeting, we will -- can can -- i'm trying to think of the exact language. i just don't want us to go

without a formal motion and recommendation, actually. >> i think that is actually really well said and encapsulates everything nicely. so i think the motion would be to continue with a recommendation that the supervisor bring it back to the commission before advancing it to the board, particularly as we're the body overseeing the department that's the subject of the legislation. regina, did i say that well enough that it's conveyed -- excuse me, director dick-endrizzi, did i say that well enough? >> yeah, and i think that just because it's in my legislative review that it's, again, you know -- there are a few key things that will be important in this administration should

this legislation pass. it's been noted, but i want it strongly noted that it's for-profit businesses. >> yes. >> definitely, the director to be allowed to identify additional organizations to be able to nominate so that good -- it would be good to stress the things that you're also looking to ensure that are in the legislation when it comes back before you. >> i agree. i think we can -- those points are subpoints to what -- what you just said, president laguana, is this legislation will have an expectation of our office, and we do not -- we feel like we are asking that it should come back before us and not move forward until procedures that the office of

small business is comfortable with in the recommendation, including for profit [inaudible] and director's ability to bring in community organizations. >> i would add to that, director dick-endrizzi, the suggestion that the prioritization for loans and grants only be for covid related loans and grants. you know, i have some concerns about prioritizing already successful businesses ahead of brand-new fresh businesses, that that's what we're going to need to be filling the vacancy, so i don't want to create something that's, for years ahead, putting already successful businesses, at the front of the line. that, in my mind, creates some

equity issues. >> all right. so the motion in my mind is to -- that the legislation -- that there's not a specific recommendation that you want to hear the legislation, have the legislation come back before you, and when it does come back, it does not move forward before coming back to the commission in terms of the board of supervisors process, and that the three key items that -- to be amended in the ordinance is, one, that the supplies to for-profit businesses, this registry applies to for-profit businesses only. two, allows the director to identify additional organizations to nominate, and three, that the prioritization for grants and loans is specifically covid related. did i capture that correctly? >> yes.

those are current recommendations, although i will say several -- as recently as today, several business organizations have reached out to me. i think everybody is still digesting this, but that's the current recommendations. i think that's right. are we ready to take a vote? >> so that was a motion -- that was a dual kind of motion between president laguana -- i think, president laguana, you made the initial motion. are you willing to accept commissioner zouzounis' recommendation? >> i do accept them, and i am thankful for them. >> okay. so we have a motion by commissioner laguana, seconded by -- >> commissioner dooley. >> by commissioner dooley, and i will now go into roll call. [roll call]

>> that motion passes, 7-0. >> all right. thank you. thank you, ian. >> thank you for your time and your feedback. >> all right. next item, please. >> item number 5 is a resolution drk-small business resolution 003-2012 ramaytush ohlone land acknowledgement statement. the resolution complies with the city's racial equity action plan to have boards and commissions read a statement acknowledging the ramaytush ohlone community at each small business commission meeting and to amend the rules of order to reflect this mandate.

this resolution is part of the office of small business -- >> excuse me, director, i apologize. in my notes, i have legacy business as being the next item. >> so sorry. i've really lost it today. pardon me, rick. we are now back to item 4, approval of legacy business registry applications and resolutions. we have six, seven businesses to have you this evening, and i will turn it over to richard kurylo, the legacy business manager to present to you, and my apologies to the legacy businesses that are before you this evening. >> no problem. welcome, rick. go for it. >> thank you. regina, can i steal the ball from you or do i have to wait for you to give that to me?

okay. see if i can share my screen properly. can you see that? great. can you hear me? can you see everything? everything's good? good evening, president laguana, vice president zouzounis, small business staff. rich kurylo, legacy business manager. before you are seven businesses for the legacy business registry. the applications were submitted to planning on march 11 and heard by the historic preservation commission on april 7. item 4-a is fanta cleaners,

inc. it provides business cleaning and laundry services under two different names in two neighborhoods. fanta deluxe cleaners in [inaudible] and [inaudible] in cow hollow. the core feature tradition the business must maintain to remain on the legacy business registry is laundry service. item 4-b is finnegans wake. the bar opened in noe valley in 1976. after a five-year hiatus between 1984 and 1989, the business opened at its current location in noe valley. they have hosted annual

barbecues for three decades on memorial day and labor day and regularly host and sponsor several sports leagues like pool, darts, softball, and soccer. the bar has also won the san francisco bloody mary festival five years in a row. the core feature tradition the business must maintain is bar. item 4-c is flowercraft. the business is a local family owned garden center founded by philip lerner in 1974. flowercraft sells a large variety of soils, trees, flowers, and gardening hardware. they also provide natural and organic fertilizers and pest control. flowercraft regularly hosts three workshops that are open to the public such as beekeeping, rose keeping, pruning, california native

plants, and more. the core feature the business must maintain is garden center. item 4-d is lyon-martin community health services. it was formed as a clinic for lesbians who lacked access to nonjudgmental affordable health

care. -- item 4-e is old ship saloon. the bar is the oldest known business to still be operating in san francisco and may be one of the oldest bars on the west coast. opened in 1851, the old ship saloon has a well documented and fascinating history, starting with its inception as a ship wreck turned alehouse operating out of the ship's land locked hull. when the hull was overcome by the sandy terrain, it was moved to this building.

old ship saloon has weathered many turbulent storms in san francisco's history and has been able to stay afloat during its ever changing tides. i did not make that lineup. i thought it was very clever; i really liked it. item 4-f is san francisco bay times. it's a publication in the mission to connect the diverse community in the bay area, specifically, the lgbtq area. today, content is available in print and web based applications. after 43 years, the core goals of the bay time remains the the same: providing quality content to its readers on a biweekly basis. the core it must maintain is covering issues in the lgbtq community. item 4-g is yankee clipper

travel. it moved to san francisco in 1991. yankee clipper serves the lgbtq community for all aspects for travel around the world. the business is staffed by world travelled staff who have a wide range of experience for customers. yankee clipper represents a number of lgbtq cruises and tours. all seven businesses met the three criteria for listing on the legacy business registry, and all seven received a positive recommendation from the his torque preservation commit -- historic preservation

commission. thank you. this concludes my presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions. there may be business representatives on the line who would like to speak on behalf of the application during public comment. >> awesome. thank you so much. commissioners, do we have any comment? okay. so we'll go to public comment. before we begin public comment, i'll just say to the gentleman for finnegans wake, please do not feel bad. that's an easy mistake to make. the public comment system could not be more confusing if the city tried, and sometimes i think the city really, really tried its best to make it as complicated as possible. so with that, the fault is entirely ours. so with that, is there any public commenters on the line? >> mr. president, we currently have four callers on the line.

>> okay. first caller, please. caller, go ahead. >> good evening. i'm donna sashay, proud san francisco resident for 35 years. thank you, commission, for your service. [inaudible] and to foster civic engagement and pride by assisting long-standing businesses to remain in the city. i can think of no more well suited or qualified candidate that the san francisco bay times. for over 40 years, it's brought issues about the lgbtq community to that community. i have written regular columns, features, and guest pieces for

several other san francisco publications and never have i received such wide ranging editorial support, with a strong on-line presence and social media posts, and never have i seen a local business so willingly and skillfully serve its immediate sponsor organizations large and small, events for hundreds and events for dozens and individual charitiable efforts that impact a wide variety of our diverse community. the san francisco bay times has become the go-to source for the entire lgbtq community covering everything from politics to medicine and supports, from fundraising galas and who's wearing what to life altering rallies and protests. the san francisco bay times

undoubtedly reflects san francisco's wide cultural identity. please give swift approve to the san francisco bay times to be designated an official legacy business. >> thank you. next caller, please. >> hi. can you hear me? >> we sure can. please go ahead. >> great. thank you so much. thank you, president laguana and commissioners. good evening. think amy by -- this is amy bynart, legislative aide to supervisor hillary ronen. first, there's flowercraft garden center, which has a unique and vibrant history with deep roots in san francisco. the founder of flowercraft, philip lerner, now in his 80s,

opened the business 40 years ago. it has an ever growing number of dedicated, intergenerational clientele. the company regularly donates to many local nonprofits and schools, including city of dreams, district 9s own drag queen bingo and homeless prenatal programs. it donates christmas trees to several organizations during the winter holidays. while the surrounding neighborhoods continued to change, flowercraft has remained a constant. it has served district 9 in san francisco for decades. and then second, but very much not in second place, is lyon-martin health services. lyon-martin was founded in san francisco in 1979 to provide access to health care for lesbians and soon to become a model for culturally sensitive

community based health care. now, in its 42 year, lyon-martin health services is a community run nonprofit serving low-income cisgender women and lesbian women. it has been a life saving service for the community, and supervisor ronen supports this consideration and supports your applications for the legacy business registration. thank you so much. >> thank you. next caller, please.

>> hi. can everyone hear me? >> we sure can. please go ahead. >> okay. thank you, commissioners, for considering fanta cleaners on the legacy business registry. i'd like to also thank the staff that has assisted us throughout this process and has been a huge help in us being here today. my name is bryant park, and i'm here representing fanta cleaners on behalf of my mom, young park. this is a very emotional moment for my mom, and i'm going to do my best to convey what she'd like to say today. for the best part of her life, she provided essential services to the city, cleaning people's clothes, tailoring to people's

needs. she became a part of their life, and through cleaning and tailoring their clothes, she served people in many different communities. despite challenges on a personal level, including the tech crash and business closures directly affecting fanta, and now this pandemic, my mom didn't waver in her effort to help the community in the best way she knew how. the tech companies have come and they've conquered the market. they've found ways to monopolize the service, yet she has found ways to keep the relationships that she has come

to love in the city, and she has found ways to survive. she has been a survivor. over the past, i would say about 40 years that she's been serving the city, she's found ways to, whether it's through luck or hard work or perseverance, she's found a way to stay around and not be closed down by the larger private equity funded b.c. funded companies that have wanted to basically take the business away from her. even most recently during the pandemic, rather than finding ways to figure out how she would financially survive once again, she has prepared masks to share to local residents because she knew that it's about people first, and i think that's where her heart has always been, for others first

before herself. so basically, to be a part of this registry is such an honor, and words cannot express enough how we feel to be a part of our city, a part of our home, so thank you, again, commissioners. >> thank you. next caller, please. >> hello there. thank you, office of small business, for maintaining the legacy business program and considering these applications. my name is casey, and i've lived in the panhandle area for 14 years. i'm calling in support of the application for finnegans wake. they not only certainly qualify for this program but would also be a top nominee for the afore mentioned anchor business program. they are a main stay of cole valley and have continued to provide a community gathering space for the city. i appreciate your time and consideration and urge your support of their application. thank you. [please stand by]

we started as and continue to be truly for community health care clinic. people who bring life and light to our city while struggling to

survive. we have contributed to the black and brown communities, people who are disabled, undocumented or formally encarson rated, we serve them all. we are our communities. given our struggle to survive as a clinic ourselves this past year and with the passing of our name sake, phyllis lion last year, to demonstrate their commitment to the most marginalized queer and transgender communities. to the life of the city when no one else can or will. to preserve phyllis and dull's legacy to ensure queer and transwomen don't fall through the cracks to ensure the health and well being of our community. please keep us alive. thank you. >> president laguana: thank you.

next caller please. >> mr. president, there are no more callers in the queue at this moment. >> president laguana: okay. seeing no public comment. commissioner adams. >> commissioner adams: yeah. congratulations to all the nominees today. i want to give a shout out to two special ones. i know the first caller and i want to wish donna sashay a happy birthday today. calling in on your birthday. what betty has done with the writers and the columnist really does affect our community and the online presence, it's so important for our community. so i just want to congratulate the bay times and thank betty for what she's done with that

paper and just turning it in to the power house that it is in the san francisco lgbtq community. i also want to give a shout-out to lion martin health center. a caller said something very important. it's for our community run by our community and what they've done for our community is, you know, my heart, we owe you. so thank you for everything lion martin has done for this community and it hasn't been easy especially the last couple of years, but you guys made it work, so thank you. >> president laguana: thank you. commissioner dooley. >> commissioner dooley: words can hardly express my admiration for flower craft nursery. i have been a patron for

[inaudible] years. the whole neighborhood nursery, reasonable prices, always there for help, always wonderful people from the community working there and i'm thrilled to see that they're going to get some well deserved recognition. so thank you so much flower craft nursery. you make my life much better. >> president laguana: thank you. vice president zouzounis. >> vice president zouzounis: i just wanted to say thank you to all the legacy businesses that called in today. those were amazing testimonies and the generations and the generations of families that have created these businesses, it really shows through in your comments. so i just wanted to thank you. >> president laguana: thank you. and, just to add a few words of

my own, you know, i grew up with two dads and in the 80s, the san francisco bay times i think was called "coming up" or up coming" something like that and i lived in ohio and they would go to cape cod, to p-town and they'd go to san francisco, those are like the two vacation spots and they would come back with this paper and, you know, i remember when i moved here in the early '90s, i was like oh, that was that paper i used to see in ohio. so it's so amazing that, you know, and it was great to hear commissioner adams' comments. what an amazing contribution to the culture and to that community. and, on a side note, not a side note.

so the old ship saloon. i had a friend that was the chef next door. there was a restaurant next door, i can't quite remember the name, but i would wander up -- commissioner dooley's reminding me. unmute yourself. please tell me. >> commissioner dooley: glow. >> president laguana: yeah. that's it. and so i would wander in there and it's called that for the amusement of my fellow commissioners. it was called that because it started as an old ship so those were all shipyards right there and everyone would go up and go gold mining and so the ship that was there was called "the arkansas" so the owner set up a plank and all the gold miners would walk up the plank. it was actually in an old ship and in 1906, that's when they think it went away because

everything collapsed in the earthquake, but, you know, there was always these rumors that the ship was underneath where the bar was and everybody was like and they're digging right under and sure enough, there was the ship. the pieces were still under there and i had to tell it. congratulations to all of our legacy i guess it's too early for our congratulations. we have to have a moment. >> commissioner: i'll motion that we approve all legacy business. >> commissioner dooley:

second. >> secretary: we have a motion by commissioner adams. seconded by commissioner dooley. roll call. [roll call] >> director: mr. president, that motion passes seven to zero. >> president laguana: thank you so much. congratulations to all our legacy business. next item, please. >> director: next item is item number five. i have the numerical item correct now. it's resolution number 003-2021 and it is the ramaytush ohlone

land a resolution to adopt the statement as i read earlier to be read during our commission meetings and to have it amend our rules of order to reflect the reading of the statement. and, commissioners, the resolution is in your packet. please let me know if i need to bring it up for review, but also i'd like to turn it over to the racial equity special committee chair miriam zouzounis for some words. >> vice president zouzounis: thank you, director. yeah. i'm, again, excited to bring some of the work we've done in the racial equity committee to our full commission. this is on the top of our agenda of items that are part of the racial equity goals and

we i think today we're voting on the full resolution which the statement itself is that we will be reading is an abridged version of that. we have reviewed it as a racial equity committee and i believe we are all in support and i'm in the formal capacity. >> president laguana: thank you, vice president. would you be so kind as to read the statement for us. >> vice president zouzounis: just the statement part, not the full part. >> president laguana: yeah. just the statement part. >> vice president zouzounis: okay. i don't have it right in front of me. so give me a second. or can someone put it in the

chat? >> president laguana: we're not supposed to use the chat. >> director: commissioner zouzounis, i will bring it up. >> vice president zouzounis: okay great. >> director: it's split between the two resolutions and i will share. >> vice president zouzounis: thank you. great. i'm going to read the statement that we will vote on to be read at the beginning of our meetings. the san francisco small business commission and office of the small business staff acknowledges that we on the unseeded and central homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the san francisco peninsula. as indigenous stuarts of this land and in accordance with their tradition. the ramaytush ohlone have never

forgotten their responsibility as caretakers of this place as well as all people to reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramatytush ohlone community. >> director: that's it. >> president laguana: you're good. great. thank you. yes. so should we go to public comment? let's go to public comment. >> clerk: mr. president, there are currently no callers in the queue for this item. >> president laguana: great. seeing none. public comment is closed. i move that we approve the statement or resolution. i move that we approve the

resolution. that's what we're supposed to do here. >> director: yes. approve the resolution to read the statement at the meeting. that's the summary of it. >> vice president zouzounis: i will second. >> director: all right. we have a motion to approve the resolution by commissioner laguana seconded by commissioner zouzounis. roll call. [roll call] that motion passes 7-0. >> president laguana: wonderful. great job, everybody. thank you for the work to get that done. next item, please. >> director: next item is item number 6. this is general public comment which allows members of the

public to comment on matters that are within the small business's jurisdiction, but not on today's calendar and suggest new agenda items for the commission's future consideration. >> president laguana: are there any public commentors on the line? >> clerk: mr. president, there are currently no callers on the line for this item. >> president laguana: seeing none. public comment is closed. next item, please. >> director: next item is item number 7 director's report. update and report on the office of small business and the small business assistance center, department programs, policy and legislative matters, announcements from the mayor, and announcements regarding small business activities. so i have a very brief report for you. i do want to let you know that the music -- the live music and entertainment venue recovery fund has officially launched

last week and i'm very happy to say that we had a very smooth launch. we didn't have any technical glitches with our online application. so and currently to date, we have 38 applicants. the application deadline on may 5th so that's just a little overa week. in addition to that also the city's additional grant program, but the mayor was part of the mayor's announcement a couple months ago have also launched and then happy to say that the s.b.a. and vice president zouzounis if there's anything you'd like to add.

no. okay. correction. >> vice president zouzounis: restaurant revitalization didn't launch yet. it will be may 3rd. >> director: okay. >> vice president zouzounis: for the public. >> director: so, yes, so just those are coming. so that's exciting news for our businesses to be able to apply for those financial support packages. and, in addition, it was noted in our eblast on thursday that president biden is providing credit for businesses who are allowing their employees to take paid leave to be able to get their vaccinations. so i will send you details on this, but this is a huge incentive to really encourage employers to, you know, allow

their employees to take time off to get their vaccinations so that we can get more people vaccinated and businesses will be reimbursed for that time. and then, next, i want to just highlight that for our next meeting. we will be hearing supervisor ronen has introduced a code for establishment this is something that commissioner dooley and commissioner adams and commissioner ortiz-cartagena and perhaps commissioner zouzounis, you'll remember back in 2015 when we heard the ordinance it was the recommendation that massage needs to be aligned as part of the healing arts with health services and so this

legislation is actually aligning massage with our health services and really increasing the number of zoning districts where that can take place. so this is very exciting. it's been awhile and it's as you know, dominica had presented on the bite paper that the office developed to help justify this legislation which i will resend out for everyone in case you want to read it, but we will be hearing that on may 10th along with hearing for congestion pricing. you'll be getting a presentation on congestion pricing and then a special presentation from community member. so those are some of the key

highlights for our up coming meeting. and, then, i do want to make note that we will likely be, i will, for the month of may start working on plans for bringing back in-client services to our office. so, that is on the horizon, it's hard to believe that we will be back at a place and getting, having the ability to be able to provide services face to face and indoors. so that planning process will be taking place during the month of may and the likelihood is we'll be not at full capacity, but some capacity looking at june. so, i think, with that, i will

end my public comment -- i mean, my director's report and i think as commissioner laguan said, we have received our applications for the commission secretary policy analyst position and so we'll shortly begin interviews. so that is on the horizon for us as well. if there's any questions, i'm happy to take them. >> president laguana: commissioners, do we have any questions? great. seeing none. is there any public comment? >> clerk: mr. president, there are no callers in the queue for this item. >> president laguana: seeing none. public comment is closed. next item, please. >> director: next item is commissioner discussion and new business items. >> president laguana:

commissioners, do we have any new business? vice president zouzounis. >> vice president zouzounis: well, we are coming to an end of era of american heritage month so i wanted to note that the city administrator did recognize that and send commission profiles of different arabs that are in our public service. so if you all got that, cool. and, yeah, i just wanted to let you all know that we have celebrated that and small businesses were a big part of the mayor's statement for american heritage month. so she did give props to all the arab small business owners in the city. >> president laguana: awesome.

commissioner adams, were you looking to make a comment. >> commissioner adams: i was going to say i'm just giving her a thumbs up. my hometown of dearborn, michigan, i had several family and friends celebrate arab heritage month and it was special. >> president laguana: great. so, commissioners, i'm going to remind everybody that may is small business challenge month. we had a very successful launch of the san francisco small business challenge and now i'm bummed out i don't have one of the challenge coins. if we were meeting in person, i'd give each of you a challenge coin. for the month of may, can you shop and dine only using small businesses. that is the challenge. heather knight and peter heartlove at the chronicle have agreed to take the challenge. pretty shortly here, i'm going

to be challenging each of the supervisors. several of them have already agreed to take the challenge. i will be of course expecting the rest of them to take the challenge and so, i'll need your help holding them to account on that because we want to make sure all our elected officials take the challenge and that will be a fun game that we get to play in may which is how many small businesses can we shop at and the hashtag is hashtag smallbizchallenge. there's a website at smallbiz30.com for the 30-day challenge. but it's actually 31 so i didn't think about that before i got the domain. that's details. whatever. the other thing i wanted to

mention -- shoot. i guess i can't mention that. stupid brown act. well, actually -- no. director, like can we talk about future agenda items if it's actually in a public open meeting? >> director: you can mention it as an informational item, but not have a discussion on it. >> president laguana: okay. got it. so several small business leaders including myself put out a petition this morning. we are supporting -- you know what, i think i'm going to save this. i'll let you guys google it or find it. i don't want to say anything that's going to get me in trouble with anybody down the line because i'm realizing if i'm talking about this stuff, now i just said i'm supporting

it. maybe i'm not being informational. you know, it's tricky gray zone. so i'm just going to shut my mouth before i get myself in trouble. so that's my news. is there any other commissioners with news? i don't see any. so do we have any public comment? >> clerk: mr. president, there are no callers in on the line for this item. >> president laguana: great. so seeing none. public comment is closed. next item, please. >> director: sfgov tv, please show the office of small business slide. >> president laguana: we will end with a reminder that the small business commission is the official public forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco and that the office of small business is the best

place to get answers about doing business in san francisco during the local emergency. if you need assistance with small business matters, continue to reach out to the office of small business. >> director: item number 9, adjournment. this is an action item. do we have a motion. >> commissioner: so moved. >> director: motioned by commissioner ortiz-cartagena. second? >> president laguana: i second. >> director: seconded by commissioner laguana. roll call. [roll call] that motion passes 7-0. the meeting is adjourned at 7:27. >> president laguana: thank you all. >> director: thank you,