>> welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, monday july 19, 2021. i'm aaron peskin joined by vice chair supervisors raphael mandelman and supervisor connie chan. do you have any announcements? >> clerk: these are the covid-19 health and emergency. city and employees and the public, the board of supervisors committee room is closed. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda.

or streaming the numbers across the screen. comments and opportunities to speak are available by by calling 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. is 146 556 5732. when your item comes up, dial star 3 to be added to the speaker line. best practices are to call from a quiet location to speak clearly and slowly and turn down your television or radio. you may submit public comment by e-mail or myself.

that concludes my initial comments. >> supervisor peskin: please call the first item. >> clerk: item 1 is a motion to approving nomination for appointment of jose lopez, board of appeals four-year term ending july 1, 2024. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. colleagues, this is a little known but remarkably important function in our government. a quasi judicial body as supervisor mandelman knows. all sorts of appeals from the zoning administrator, the health department and countless other agencies. the mayor and the board both share appointments on this body. the mayor appoints two, the board of supervisors present appoints two. all five appointments are subject to confirmation or rejection by board of

supervisors. the mayor has nominated jose lopez who i had the pleasure of meeting virtually last week. he is a lawyer with plenty of experience and his forms 700 are in the file. why don't i turn it over to mr. lopez for a statement. >> thank you supervisor peskin. thank you to the rest of the members of the committee for having me here today. as supervisor peskin said, i'm an attorney living in the bay

bayview neighborhood. in my mind, the board of appeals represents the best the committee has to offer. part of my interest is taking some of my background in education, having attended uc berkeley for undergrad and law school, having practice for 12 years in various law firms. i love to help the board kind of process and analyze the matters of law that come before it to stick to the code and providing fair hearings before everybody. i'm also the child of immigrants. being the kid who goes with their parents for meetings and being a translator for the

family. that's something that you also will be getting with me, deem commitment for that fairness and accessibility in government. thanks again for considering this nomination and look forward to questions. >> supervisor peskin: are there any questions or comments? i see none. we have from the board of appeals commissioner rick swig. would you like to make brief comments? >> yes, sir, supervisor peskin. my name is rick swig. i'm the vice president of the board of appeals. i'm very excited for mr. lopez.

we need a strong legal expert. mr. lopez will provide that for us for all the reasons that he just stated. right now being down a body for the last couple of months, we -- [indiscernible] i spent some time with mr. lopez. let him know what we do. we uphold the law and the statute that the city provides with regards with permits and licenses. i'm fully confident that he will

provide that important -- [indiscernible] >> supervisor peskin: are there any members of the public who like to comment? >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide public comment should call 415-655-0001, the meeting i.d. is 146 556 5732. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. at this time, we do not any 51 e in line to speak. >> supervisor peskin: okay, mr. lopez, may you have a good journey. i suspect that you are about to be forwarded with a positive recommendation. i will make a motion to that

effect to amend the subject motion to remove the word rejects in line 12. on that motion, mr. clerk, roll call please. >> clerk: on the motion to amend. [roll call vote] the motion passes without objection. >> supervisor peskin: i'll make a motion to send the item as amended with recommendation to the full board of supervisors for hearing on tuesday july 27th on that motion, roll call please. >> clerk: own this motion. [roll call vote] motion passes. the matter will be recommended as amended. >> supervisor peskin: congratula tions mr. lopez. thank you for your service.

that's going to eat up all your wednesday nights and weekends for the next four years until july 1, 2024. mr. clerk, please read the next item. >> clerk: next is item number two. motion approving rejects mayor's nomination for appointment of moses corrette for term ending >> supervisor peskin: mr. corret te good morning. i known mr. corrette since i think he started at the planning department. this is an excellent nomination by the mayor. the floor is yours. >> good morning chair peskin. my name is moses corrette. i'm a resident of district 8 and a more than 20-year resident of san francisco itself. as chair peskin mentioned, i

have been a city planner for 21 years now. it's been a complete honor to be nominated by mayor breed. i thank you for this opportunity to volunteer and serve the city that i love. little bit about my professional background. i am a former executive committee member of local 21, which is my union. i served for five years as their treasurer and briefly as a interim vice president of our board. as treasurer i was charged with the financial success and oversight of our union and managing our finances which was a great job to do.

i'ms a a -- i'm also a delegate to the san francisco labor council and served on couple of committees there. i really would like to thank everyone for this opportunity to serve. i'm happy to answer any question us might have. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. corrette. are there any questions from committee members? seeing none, is there any -- michelle, turn your camera off until your item comes up. that will be great. are there any members of the public who would like to speak to this item? mr. clerk? >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide public comment, call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d., 146 556 5732, then

press pound. if you haven't already done so, dial star 3 to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. we have one person in line to sk at this time. >> caller: supervisors, i'm calling in support of appointment of ocii committee. i couldn't imagine a more qualified candidate for this position. moses' dedication to community and living and beating soul of san francisco, makes this a perfect appointment. i recommend this great person,

planner, thinker and union leader for appointment to the ocii commission. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. are there any other members of the public for item number 2? >> there are no more callers in the queue. >> supervisor peskin: okay, public comment is closed. thank you mr. corrette for your willingness to serve. i like to make a motion to remove rejecting line 3 and remove the word reject on page 2 of line 18. mr. clerk on that motion, a roll call please. >> clerk: on the motion to amend. [roll call vote] the motion passes without

objections. >> supervisor peskin: supervisor mandelman, did you have your hand up? [indiscernible] it is not too late. >> supervisor mandelman: mr. cor rette is a strong appointment. you did as well mr. chair. i'm excited to see him serve on this body. thank you for offering to serve in this way. >> supervisor peskin: on supervisor mandelman's motion to send the motion as amended to the full board with recommendation. roll call please. >> clerk: on that motion. [roll call vote]

motion passes. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. corrette. enjoy, with that mr. clerk please call item number 3. >> clerk: an ordinance approving technology policies of audio recorders automatic license plate readers and police departments, public works, recreation and parks department and department of technology, security cameras by the airport, asian art museums, department o child support services, department of of technologies, department of emergency management fire department department of human resources, transportation agency, department of public health,

radiofrequency identification by library and amending the administrative code require departments to post each board-approved technology policy >> supervisor peskin: colleagues , this has been a long time in the making and a long time in coming. it is here. by way of background, back in 2018, as we all know, the board of supervisors put before the voters a charter amendment and the san francisco electorate overwhelming passed proposition b, which established policies designed to save lot of information of our resident and visitors and direct policymakers to implement privacy first

policies by ordinance and other means. a year later, i want to thank my staff and my office, we took the next step as the lead sponsor of the surveillance oversight ordinance. we were not the first. many other cities including santa clara county done so before us. it breathes new life into the national conversation about the

use of racial recognition technology. what we knew couple of years ago remains true. which is that when surveillance technology is misused, marginalized units and individuals bear the brunt of the resulting harm. whether it's political activist, low income people, communities of color. they become the targets. some of this is not even about how it's used but flaws in the technology itself. we know facial racial disproportionately identify women and people of different complexion.

that isn't to say there isn't viable use for surveillance technology. there are. we should be incredibly proud. i want to thank the city administrator's office for completing this first traunch of these policies, understanding

that this is a fraction what will come before us. this is a watershed moment for transparency, relative to our use of surveillance technology. it reaffirms san francisco's status as a national leader in the movement among cities to safeguard the public against predictable harm, surveillance technology. i think it will restore public trust. that should not foreclose discussion about how to improve upon this. this is really our first time out. both as to the matter of process and procedure and substantively, how these policies evolve. we're learning on the job. procedurally i think we've heard and we'll continue to hear that

this is a staff -- [indiscernible] we're more cognizant going in. i think we'll get easier. certainly we heard that this program will benefit more from centralized staffing, help create these policies and monitor them. one of my biggest concerns is about the city's use of third party surveillance technology and you'll see that in some of these reports. what it means when -- we defer to policies of contractors whether it's shot spotters or others that are determined by those third parties. i'm interested in understanding whether there are opportunities for the city to be more active in setting those policies whether it's through contractual arrangement or laws to the extent to which this one

conversation with office of contract administration and the city administrator's office. with that, i would like to turn it over to him to present. thank him for his excellent work, to present on how we got here and i want to thank the approximately 38 department staff for their help as well. i know as i said, it's been a heavy lift. i want to leave the door open to policy improvements at the same time as i think we need to applaud ourselves for a job well done in its initial stage. i have a number of questions which i will hold until after

his presentation. >> thank you for the kind words. very much appreciate it. labor of love over the last two years. i'm proud of the work that the department and my staff has been able to do to bring this forward to you all. i have a short presentation just to frame the discussion. i will start there. i want to start with the landscape and talk about the process some of the work we do with 19b and some title recommendations.

we're a governance body. we have public meetings every month to talk about technology in the city and make a variety decisions about the future of technology in local government. our main responsibility is to write the technology plan. we have annual budget role to make recommendation to the mayor about future technology investment and manage those investments to make sure that money and those budgets succeed. we also have a substantial role in developing technology policy and always trying to come together into the technology plan. that's the background what coit is. just for the background of privacy and surveillance in san francisco. privacy is something that is embedded in the way that many of the departments work. there's a number of regulations

at the federal level that do embed the way departments are think being privacy. this is the background that we are working on, as coit gets involve think being privacy. we've had annual updates about cybersecurity policies to improve the way the city is thinking about that. we also did look at the specific surveillance technology. we did create a drone policy in 2017 that didn't form a lot of the work that we wanted for 19b. all policies are available on our website.

i want to note that coit's role -- we got trying to mature the way that the city departments use technology and the way we are thinking about surveillance privacy and cybersecurity. the way we're doing that, we do break down with the lifecycle of the data and start looking at where are we now and where we need to improve. looking at data guidelines and core privacy principles, making sure departments are collecting more data than necessary.

move -- bulk you have of our work has been coming in compliance with the ordinance. requirement for coit -- the first requirement to identify all the surveillance technologies in the city and create impact reports. once the board of supervisors approves the policy conduct an annual report. our role has been to post the surveillance inventory which is posted on our website now. we work with the department to develop policy. we have also created a new public body so we can conduct public hearing and look at the policy themselves. make technical changes and make recommendations to coit and the board of supervisors. coit will be posting the annual

surveillance reports. that is the background. this is where we stand. this is what's posted on our website right now. grouped into surveillance technology categories to give you a better idea of what we're looking at. when we did our inventory, we have identified now 168 surveillance technologies that city departments are using. we have started to go through this list and those of the policies that you are hearing today with a number of ones we thought were high priority but also can set the baseline for this conversation.

looking through the requirements in 19b, there are a number of different requirements through all the policy and annual surveillance report. we wanted to add couple of other ones we felt were very important to ask department including the policies but what does the policy look like? we developed a surveillance tool kit which has a robust -- [indiscernible], stream lines the compliance requirement. we're putting all the questions in one form to help the implementation burden. really with the lens of, we're helping to inform the board of supervisors about the benefits and making sure that they can make informed decision about the benefits outweighing the cost. the tool kit allows to you dive in deeper and start thinking

about. >> supervisor peskin: this is benefits and cost. i was read drug the ordinance a question that i had. the use of the word cost, i understand what we're trying to express, is a little awkward. cost can be financial. cost can be benefits versus detriments. cost can be potential risk or potential detriments. is there a better word than cost? a cost benefit analysis is usually a basic financial assessment. i think that in this context, it's being used in a much larger way. it's in every single finding throughout the ordinance.

i was wondering if we can change the word cost to risk. >> what you're talking about budget commission and thinking about the role of technology, it's a limited way to think about the role of technology. they're really thinking about the larger role, local government and how technology is supporting our overall mission. what we have done through the tool kit is look to federal guidance -- national institute of technology has developed a privacy framework, they had a good discussion about what do they actually mean.

some of the things that we're talking about surveillance technologies are, what is the impact to residents. these are the things we are pushing departments to think through. as they're thinking about privacy impacts, also looking at the administrative technical physical ways that they can think about the technologies and improving wait they are using them. in the larger context, they also have a business purpose they're trying to accomplish and making sure that the technology is streamlined to use it only for that business purpose. this is part of the role coit trying to play. again, what you noted before, this is a very large discussion. surveillance technology is a lens of the privacy discussion

but this is pretty broad about larger privacy consequences. i'll jump into that more when we get into recommendations. just to wrap up little bit more about what coit does for -- has been doing for 19b. we created a public body called the privacy surveillance advisory board. we tried to hold meetings the second and fourth friday every month to review these policies. we have a number of different experts around the city and a privacy lawyer join and talk about these policies. you can see from the cover letter we sent, we typically hear a policy between 2 and 4 times. we're going through the speed rate of cycle talking about clarification and changing policy language. it's been a very productive use of a public commission to start thinking about these technologies and the policies and how we can use them going

forward. this is the whole lifecycle that we have been managing. i want to note that we will be doing annual surveillance report going forward. that's a very important part to continuing to review these policies and making sure they are addressing risks but also be improved. just for calendar review, we had 20 meetings, these are just the final dates where we heard the policies that are in front of you. we can discuss that as

supervisor peskin mentioned, we did ask departments to attend so they can answer specific questions around any of the policies or technologies. before we get that, i want to use this time to make some recommendations to 19b itself. i think that we learned the last through the technology policy over the last two years. i want to bring this forward as we're going forward and thinking about how do we improve the way to protecting policy rights of the residents going forward. the first is around in-house expertise. in my opinion, i think that this discussion about privacy is much larger and it's part of the issues that we need to start addressing as a whole and a city. as i mentioned surveillance technology is a component of the privacy. we need to have that expertise to start moving it.

some of the things i want to call out, we are strapped without this identify expertise. it's really around procurement. that issue around third party is really central to our procurement discussion. we need to think about equity impacts. we need to be thinking about privacy which is really about empowering. empowering residents what their data is. the city really has a potential to read out the discussion. we need to have more training for city staff to start think being privacy and move from beyond the conversation of compliant. i want to bring forward that

chief privacy officer. it is something -- the reason that i'm being so forceful about bringing this forward, this is a role that was cut by the board of supervisors last year during the budget process. i learned that the city cannot create this role without the board of supervisors. i'm appealing do you directly. this is a very important role. second recommendation is more process around 19b itself. currently, 9/11 b requires each department to create a separate policy. as you can see through security camera policies, there's a lot of similarities through the same technology used across departments. this is something that has become very burdensome for us to take on. i don't have any official staff working on this.

we're talking about the same kind of risks over and over again. this is something we had been doing prior to 19b. we created city wide policy instead of baseline on how technology used around authorized use cases. if we continue to do that with 19b, surveillance technology policy, i would encourage to think about how to streamline the process and make this more city wide policy discussion rather than department policy. the last thing is around the definition of surveillance technology itself. there's 168 technology on there. but the definition of technology is pretty broad.

it may capture things that we do not really consider surveillance technology. that has been reported includes wifi routers or things obtained directly from departments. this is a discussion that we are open to continue to have and would encourage to start refining what are the things we're trying to mitigate. what are the risks we're trying to do. this is something that the surveillance inventory really does reveal as where we want to spend our time going forward. that's the background of what we've been doing the last year. i want to thank the supervisors for starting this conversation. i think that we are making lot of progress on this important discussion. i want to send big thank you to all the departments who help develop the policy.

i want to thank my staff who put it on their shoulders to really work with departments and do lot of hand folding. luke, emma, julia, you really moved the conversation. really helped us move this forward. i want to say thank you to all of them for taking the time and spending a lot of dedicated hours. with that, happy to answer any questions about coit's role and process and i can help with surveillance technology itself. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. again, thank you to you and your staff. your department and all of the departments and it's amazing that not only of your own debut put the advisory board together

but that you met all through covid to do it. again, i acknowledge the staff burden. i do really appreciate your three sets of recommendations and let me apologize that last year, which was a very tough and uncertain year that we were not able to accommodate. i think your direct ask is good. i'm committed as we evolve this function of government overtime to working to add that position. i agree that having in-house expertise is going to be very important. i appreciate your recommendation. i would love to hear from my colleagues.

just by proving to you, i read every word there is, an extra bracket on page 3 line 10, that needs to go away. other than that, i think this is a great start and with that, colleagues, do you have -- i got couple of questions for the departments. supervisors mandelman or chan, any questions or comments? supervisor chan? >> supervisor chan: thank you. i have quite bit of questions. i'm going to settle for this one for now. i think i would love to dive deeper about the auto license plate reader specifically for

the city department that are outside of law enforcement. i think i kind of do understand it. i wanted to have a better understanding. before that going into the detail of the technology, is overall city policy. do we have a policy about who on our city -- like city workers -- i saw that part of your recommendation about city workers that are staff training right now. do we actually have security clearance, some level of folks be able to have access to this information and actually utilize this technology and how do we make sure these are the right people having access to data, using the technology. each city department, especially those that are not law

enforcement. now city workers most of the time have to get fingerprinted. how often are they fingerprinted and all that stuff? trying to get a understanding of the qualification screening process and requirement for city workers to be able to access the technology? >> if you have specific questions about a specific department, you'll have to ask them directly about their processes. overall, these processes are in place. the surveillance technology 9/11 b does call that out for each of these technology policies to say who exactly in terms of job classification has access to this data and some of the requirements. this is a practice for departments especially with federally regulated data to set those access controls of who can access the systems and the data. that said, this is something that we have been focusing on at

coit, especially around cybersecurity. we issued a policy two years ago now, around annual training and awareness. you have gotten e-mails too about the skill. those are trainings that can dedicated for your role or user with the type of data you're accessing. it's something we will continue to try to create a standard level of understanding and awareness. i would say that, we have the cybersecurity side worked on. we should be pursue some kind of annual training for the entire city. i think that, there's a lot of components thinking about how do we know this is sensitive data and how do we make sure that certain kinds of controls are in place and having certain kind of

practices standard across the city. this is something we are eager to continue to explore. >> supervisor chan: i wanted to follow-up on that. i'm trying to understand. do we specifically know the list of people within our city -- like the custodians -- [indiscernible] >> for the surveillance technology policy, yes. >> supervisor chan: okay. thank you. chair peskin, i like to continue to ask more questions. >> supervisor peskin: this has been three years in the making. go for it. that's exactly what these hearings are for. >> supervisor chan: okay p.p.p. i'm going to dive little deeper

about how the technology is used by especially the auto license plate reader. i am going to be ignorant about what that technology looks like and how it's being used and what that even means? do you fix some kind of scanners on to a vehicle? that goes to public works and rec and park? public works i know that here, on sight is basically about how you really to prevent or catch illegal dumping. can you walk me through how this is being used and how many of your vehicles have the technology and where? >> thank you, through the chair. this is a policy that we have

introduced as a first step in trying to roll out a new program to combat illegal dumping. this is something that we've been planning with supervisor walton to combat illegal dumping in hot spots. the way it would work is, we do 311 to identify illegal dumping. the vendor would site a temporary, like a small poll as it would be holding lights for an event. it's just a temporary pole with the license plate reader on it. that would capture license plates and staff would review the license plate data if there were instances of illegal dumping.

it's only to be used in the case of if there was illegal dumping. i'm joined by peter laud -- he's going to be the one implementing it. >> i wanted to add that license plate plate is a tool we're using in addition to cameras to capture the illegal activity. >> supervisor chan: you're placing cameras in the location you identified to be problematic for illegal dumping. you will utilize license plate readers added to it. what you're saying, this technology is fixated to the location? >> that is correct. on a temporary basis.

>> supervisor chan: not to like europe maintenance truck? >> no ma'am. for rec and park this technology is used for events. walk me through again how it's used? from what i understand, [indiscernible] >> in regards to alrps, we only have one. we don't plan to get more. it's at the palace of fine arts due to all the assaults and car

thefts that we've had. it's on rec and park respect and it sticks to a building. if a police department puts in the request, we submit footage of that. >> supervisor chan: in the case of rec and park as well, fixated to a location. i think that that's good to know. i want to confirm with sfpd. it's not fixated to a location? >> your question is yes. we have one that is fixed to a vehicle. we had 16 at one point years ago. they all faded away. we're waiting for approval to build that back up.

we have one and that one was very useful last night when it was down to 27 and captured a wanted subject for a violent sexual assault. it happened just last night. we have one on one car. >> supervisor chan: my last question, overall, here's my last question, every one can jump in and answer, especially those actually do have surveillance cameras in your jurisdiction. i think that goes back to what chair peskin has mentioned earlier about the facial recognition technology. we know that technology is constantly evolving. what is the potential of having surveillance cameras already that exist in our city. how easy is it for us to utilize

facial recognition technology along with the surveillance camera that already exist? that's more to sfpd also rec and park. they have cameras in public spaces fixated in public parks. >> supervisor chan, the alpr doesn't capture facial recognition. we're not involved in racial recognition. with regard to alpr, it captures the license plate and the vehicle and that is just one step. second step, we have to verify whatever we're looking into. it may capture images from time to time just based on the vehicle and the license plate, may be there's someone near the vehicle. as you know, there's no way to

query that data to find out who is wearing blackjacked at a certain location. >> supervisor chan: your surveillance camera can? >> you're talking about the alpr? >> supervisor chan: moving on from license plate readers. now i'm moving to the surveillance camera in general. all the surveillance cameras that the city has. the question is it general that he would have to be the one to answer it for the entire city. it's a technology question. once you have surveillance

camera, how compatible that can be continue to improve for facial recognition technology to be utilized once you have camera footage. >> we don't have any surveillance cameras in the san francisco police department. our footage is just what we get from someone that we asked provide it to us after the fact in majority of cases. but thank you. >> supervisor chan, facial recognition is a software addition to surveillance camera. without that program or organization to buy that program through coit, it won't happen. >> this is a core question about

data management and data sharing for the city. the policies that are there in front of you reflect how they can use the data that those cameras collect. as the police and rec just mentioned, facial technology is forbidden. this is a larger question about facial recognition use in general. once the data -- our policy has no longer the same kind of influence in terms of that. when we're talking about looking at privacy, becomes really much more of a daily management questions. how are we making sure whoever

gets the -- and want to -- i think this is a very core question to really improving privacy rights in san francisco. >> supervisor chan: thank you. this is my comment. that's exactly -- thank you so much for helping me bridging my last comment here. about the third party. i agree that we can do all that we can. knowing how easy facial --

facial recognition technology has been be in -- when i think about third party i'm not thinking about entities, i'm thinking about third party state and federal agency. like chp and too many. -- it's outside the city line.

thank you and thank you chair peskin. this is quite something. it's ever evolving. i'm humble by learning all of these things and continue to learn more. so, thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. this will be an ongoing conversation over many months and years ahead.

with that, any questions or comments? before we open this up to public comment, couple of things. one is i have some advice from the city attorney as admin code section 19b, which is evolving. does actually use the words costs. that's probably the right amendment to make in our findings. that benefits outweigh its costs and risks. i will be making a motion to add and risks after costs in a number of places in the ordinance as well as that extra bracket. i wanted to know, i don't think

we have to modify it at this point, i did ask sfmta, security cameras wanted to know that in their policy, certain uses of their technology are tied to the occurrence of incident. it really doesn't define what incidents are. i want to note this because i think we should be better at and more careful in defining these terms. i want to say that as part of this evolving conversation. if there are no other comments, is there anything you want to add? i know we're going to be getting to more sfpd stuff in our future hearing. if you want to add anything, please go ahead. >> i wanted to thank you very much for your leadership and for this group and bringing us all together and moving forward on that. i want to give a shot out to mr.

we look forward to moving forward as we work to make our city safer and engage in public safety. at the end of the day, that's what this is all about. thank you very much. >> supervisor peskin: we agree. with that mr. clerk, open this up to public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d., 146 556 5732. press pound and pound again. please dial star 13 to line -- star 3 to line up to speak. please wait until the system indicate you have been unmuted. we currently have 17 listeners

and two people in line to speak. >> caller: can you hear me now? good morning, david pilpel. item 3, first of all, thank you to all of the city staff, coit and various department folks, all of them worked diligently on this issue for many months through many meetings and many issues. i participated in several coit meetings regarding the surveillance technology reports and policies and felt that my comments were heard and taken. i appreciate that very much. i have no issue with the proposed policies at this time. i appreciate the discussion the committee just had. my only concern here is section 7 of the ordinance. i wonder if the chapter 19

appendix is the best approach? that's on the legislation page 21 starting on line 17, actually more specifically line 22. what would suggest you to consider is to lift the policies with their status whether they are pending at the department, whether they're at or coit or submitted by board of supervisors. i would have a chart or list with that and maintain that on the coit website in addition to the department posting requirement that's further up on -- in addition line 19-21 requirement that each department

posted policy. i think it's complicated to add another appendix to the admin code just to this chapter 19b and ask the city attorney to maintain that. otherwise, i support the legislation and again, thank you to everyone involved. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. pilpel. thank you for your participation in the advisory board meetings. next speaker please. >> caller: thank you chair peskin. i'm the executive director of secure justice. i had the privilege of working with chair peskin's office in crafting of this ordinance. i also chair city of oakland privacy commission.

i have a front row view what he highlighted in the presentation. i want to give all involved an a for effort. very aggressive, self-identified privacy activist. some of these documents, especially the impact reports, have a missing component. i have not personally identified any red flag. i'm comfortable with these policies going forward. these policies are living breathing and documents that will likely be amended overtime. we should all understand that this is the first time of lifecycle of this ordinance. there will be hiccups. i haven't seen anything alarming. i like to expand upon points that were raised. this model is more resource than we originally anticipated. i work with all seven of the

california jurisdictions under this model. , consult with others across the country. when you consider future budget allocations, please don't forget that denise green, you paid her $495,000 in taxpayer funds plus your own internal cost of defense, probably closest to $1 million. that case went up to ninth court on appeals. the guardrails -- it will result in net saving to the taxpayer. one other point, i strongly encourage you to not amend the definition of surveillance technology because it needs to remain future proof and broad to capture technologies we can not yet rage of imagine. rather continue what you done and add more items to the excluded technology because you feel the risk was too remote.

you're doing a great job first time through. we'll be holding in-person training session this year and be advising san francisco to participate. thank you for listening. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for your work. next speaker please? are there any additional members of the public on this item? >> caller: good morning. i'm also a member of the landlord tech surveillance group. i really appreciate all the work that's been put into the impact study and the careful consideration. i appreciate supervisor chan's comments and consideration of

access. that's my concern. that will be the next project that you're working on which is, which third party has access to this? this is really important for tenants who's landlords put cameras in the building. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: next speaker please. >> clerk: we have one additional speaker. you may begin your comment. the speaker is unmuted. if you can hear us, you may begin your comment.

>> caller: this stanley roberts. thank you guys for continuing to look at the illegal dumping issues in san francisco. you know i'm watching everything you guys are doing. that makes me very happy. thank you board of supervisors for doing the surveillance on the illegal dumping. that makes me very happy. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker please. >> clerk: that was our last caller . >> supervisor peskin: public comment is closed. why don't we start with the public comment that we got from mr. pilpel, which i think is two fold. this is with regard to posting of board approved surveillance technologies which on section 19b.10. i believe that one is that i think the question was that too

much work would be easier to put them all on departmental websites and on the coit website and the second question was would you be able to whether or not we include it in the ordinance or not just to have a status spreadsheet on your website that shows that we've done -- these are 168 technologies that exist. these have been approved by the board and these are going to the board, etcetera. your comments on that? >> i think that it's important that coit continues to host one stop shop where city wide technology is. we are happy to host that

information. it's important to have that public dialogue and transparency. happy to continue to do that. to update the status for each individual one, we can add that. no problem. >> supervisor peskin: it sounds like we have an agreement that the coit website will include a status list and then it sound like this notion having an appendix, which is similar to the appendixes just pulling a random example, article 10 of the planning code that have appendixes that are added overtime. i think this is well thought out. you can add that status list on the coit website. with that, colleagues, i would make the minor amendment to remove that straight bracket. i would make an amendment to add

cost and risk. that appears in many places. i think the first appearance is on page 3 line 22. that's appearance is i believe page 5 line 7, next one page 6 line 2. i may be missing some. next one is on page 8 line 2. the next one is on page 9 line 12. the next one is on page 10 line 9. the next one is on page 11 line 6. next one is on page 12 line 6. next one is on page 13 line 7.

the next one is on page 14 line 6. the next one is on page 16 line 25. next one is on page 18 line 2. the next one is on page 19 line 4. the next one is on page 20 line 6. the next one is on page 21 line 7. i may have missed some. if i did, my amendment would authorize the city attorney to capture all of those between today and tomorrow when this will be heard as a committee report. on my motions to do the global amend of adding and risks and

removing the bracket. roll call please. >> clerk: on that motion. [roll call vote] the motion is adopted without objection. >> supervisor peskin: then on the motion to send the item as amended with recommendation as a committee report so we can get two readings in before the summer recess. roll call please. [roll call vote] >> clerk: this matter is recommended as amended as committee report without objection. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. thank you to city administrators

office, thank you to all of the departments. thanks to my staff. please read the next item. >> clerk: the item number 4, consider appointing two member terms ending march 1, 2023 and two members terms ending march 1st 2025 to the sheriff's department oversight board. we have four seats and eight applicants. >> supervisor peskin: we are joined by the author of this legislation that went before the voters in the form of proposition d, our board president supervisor shamann walton. thank you for joining. the floor is yours. >> supervisor preston: thank you to my colleagues for hearing this today so we can make these appointments. >> president walton: i want to thank everyone for applying and taking the time to be here. we worked to pass prop d last

year which set up this oversight body oh body and the inspector general office. in order to reveal community trust and give community members an opportunity to share and be heard around policy for the sheriff's department. this oversight board will establish sheriff's department board of seven members who shall complete a training and law enforcement, constitutional policing and sheriff's department policy and procedures. this body will appointment the inspector general and the sheriff's department to evaluate the work of the department, compile and recommend law enforcement and conduct community outreach to hear public input regarding sheriff's department operations and jail conditions. this body will review complaints against the sheriff's department and its employees and contractors and review investigations around abuses of any individual in the custody of the sheriff's department.

this body shall develop and recommend to the sheriff a sheriff's department use of force policy and comprehensive internal review process for all abusive force. this body will submit quarterly reports which will include the number and types of complaints filed and the outcomes of each complaint. i do want to thank the late public defender who i worked with on fighting independent investigations around this conduct. he and i began this work immediately after my election to the board of supervisors. during this time, the news had captured gladiator fights in the jail. we had several lawsuits against the city and many of my constituents and their families will report misconduct at the hands of the sheriff's department. the story that they share the time they took to be ensure that my office will continue to work

on this issue is appreciated. i want to thank these issues in custody who had the courage to call my office to continue to push for their justice, share their story along with the stories of others who felt they did not have a voice. i want to thank former public defender and current district attorney for the hours they have contributed to make sure this oversight will continue long after all of us. i want to say thank you to trayson brown for working hard to get this legislation finalized and on the ballot on time. to all the advocates that fought for this change, i'm looking forward to hearing from each applicant to get the best oversight board in place and continue to work of reform. chair peskin? >> supervisor peskin: thank you

president walton. thank you for your work on this issue, seeing no comments from committee members. why won't we open this up to presentations by the eight individual applicants for the four seats. we will start with ovava eterci afuhaamango. i apologize if i mispronounced your name. applicant for seat number one. >> hi, can you hear me? >> supervisor peskin: yes, we can. >> my name is ovava. i'm born and raised in the city. i have family all over the city. even though my line of work is in private marketing, this a urban impacts me and my community directly.

as far as work experience i have a bachelor's degree in public policy. i see this role as at next step helping my community. i'm applying for vacant seat number one. if there are any questions, i'm happy to answer. i can go into depth. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. any questions from committee members? let's move on to the next applicant, alexandra post for seats 1-4. hold on.

president walton? >> supervisor walton: i did have one question. i want to ask everyone this one same question. that question is, what do you think the most important reform is needed within the sheriff's department? >> should i answer? i think there are -- i'm new to the role and what the committee does and their responsibilities. kind of making sure that we're holding the sheriff's department accountable and to what they

purport to do. i thinkalling those -- i think that analyzing those policies. one of the roles is conduct community outreach and speaking to people formally incarcerated in the city and county. that's part of the reason i want to make sure there's community input regarding the police operations and the jail conditions. that's probably one of the important things about this seat. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. why don't we go to alexander post. if you want to also incorporate the answer that president walton is asking, please do so. good morning. >> good morning. i'm alexander post. i live in the bayview.

i'm a senior deputy state public defend or. in that position, i handle appeals from all over california. i think this type of work would serve me well as a member of the sheriff's department oversight board. civilian oversight of law enforcement is critical civil rights work. i attended many meetings of the san francisco police commission.

i think it's important to be bias for the safety of the public. i'm a local rep for case. i understand that complications that can come with public sector bargaining. i can implement best practices across the country. i want to -- i worked with san francisco no new jails coalition. spent few weekends standing outside interviewing people that would come to visit their loved ones incarcerated in county jail regarding their concerns around anticipated closure of that facility as well as the conditions people are experiencing inside. it was clear that these people were not being asked these

questions by the city agency. you mentioned the gladiator fight, i note that the covid response. obviously we were all struggling with that. there was sort of mandate from the city health agency to decrease population below a certain number. which happened very briefly and start to ramp back up. i found that very concerning. finally, regardless of whether you see fit to appoint me to the board, i want to close with a plug for two other applicants who worked well in respect jayson wechter and jessica

prishko. >> supervisor peskin: jayson wechter. we'll get to you next. >> good morning, thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today. i have a very long history in civilian oversight i also provided input to the draft in proposition d to ensure

that the adhered to best practices. i worked investigating the oakland police department's handling of the george floyd protest for the oakland community police review agency. i have familiarity with police boards and commissions in more than one jurisdiction. since 2003, i've been an active member of the civilian oversight of law enforcement, or naco. i served on board of supervisors from 2007 to 2014. chaired professional standards committee. i've done numerous trainings and webinars and recently conducted training for police commissions or boards in san diego, charlottesville, virginia, and

burlington, vermont. in addition, i worked as an investigator for the san francisco public defender's office. i have seen oversight agencies that found it due to inadequate resources, staffing, leadership or lack of cooperation. i very badly want to see oversight of the san francisco sheriff's department done properly. it's well-known in law

enforcement, that first line supervisors are key to enforcing regulations and culture of law enforcement. two other things i wanted to mention. i applied for seats 1 and 2, i will be equaled for seat 4. lastly, i want to mention, if i choose between serving on the board myself or having william palmer, i would choose them. mr. palmer is experienced in helping and advocating for formally incarcerated people

will be invaluable for this oversight body alex post would need a badly needed perspective to the board. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. wechter. good to see you. let's go to the next applicant, lonnie holmes. >> let me say. president walton, chair peskin, supervisor mandelman and supervisor chan. thank you all for being good stewards in san francisco. i'm lonnie holmes. i serve on the juvenile hall work group. i chair the facilities committee. additionally, as an investigator, i enforce various labor laws. everything ranging from child labor to human trafficking. from time to time serving

subpoenas and need be search warrants. prior to that, i served as director of community service for the juvenile probation department. with that, i'll entertain any questions.

>> supervisor peskin: any questions for mr. holmes? good to see you lonnie. i see no questions. let's move on to william palmer. >> before you proceed, can i ask other applicants turn off your cameras? thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. perfect. mr. palm e the floor is yours. >> thank you. my name is william palmer. it's an honor to be here in front of rules committee. i'm interested in sitting on the oversight board specifically vacant seat 2 because i am an advocate for the safety and security of our community and i'm passionate about this work. i have firsthand experience being in the jails. i have done advocacy within and without and outside of the system to improve the conditions in the jail. i had a short stint as -- i understand the stress it takes

to do this type of work as a sheriff. i'm currently employed at the elder freeman communication for legal services. i'm the host one community one mic. it's an outreach media tool to listen to the community and share strategies to advocate what's best for them. i'm also the executive director of life after next an organization to improve reentry. i spent 31 years in california's prison system and a few months in san francisco jail. during my time on the inside, i earned my associates arts degree in business. i volunteered to mentor younger prisoners in therapy sessions --

liaison between administration and population. this led me to become an advocate for my own freedom. 23 of those 31 years was called constitution accepting punishment. i can directly speak to the efforts that are happening to improve jail conditions. i have volunteered to encourage those inside to take the covid vaccine for their protection and the community. if i am appointed -- i have also sense -- me role on the oversight board will be in line of my values forgiveness, unity and love and healing.

we want to promote law enforcement best practices. corruption is a disease, it needs to be surgically removed. i understand what was going on at that time. i can speak to that as well on how we transfer oversight. if i am appointed, my role in becoming an advocate for my own freedom, led to become an advocate for all people. i want to be the voice that holds all parties accountable. one thing i can say is that, i

believe that law enforcement's primary duty is to protect and serve the community and law in itself is to provide safety and security and resources adequately for those who are in need. being that poverty drug use and mental illness are three of the main reasons people go to the prison. i say thank you and i appreciate your time. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. palmer. seeing no questions from committee members. let's move on to jessica pishko.

>> good morning, thank you all for having me here. just to address the residency waiver. i'm living in marin county. i previously lived in san francisco. we are currently looking to move back to the city. i want to thank you guys for the opportunity to discuss my interest in sheriff's department oversight. i am coming to this process as a subject matter expert on sheriff and sheriff accountability for over five years, i researched sheriffs around the country, their policies on jail and harass and how to hold sheriffs accountable. i had a fellowship at university of south carolina focused on sheriff training and accountability mechanisms. since then i worked with many organizations across the country as well as local groups to both educate the public on the role of sheriffs to talk about the

need for sheriff oversight. one of the things that i think is very important when looking at a board like this is to think about what members of the community know about the sheriff's department as well as what happens inside the jail. one of the activities is present information to groups so people can learn about their sheriff and many issues includes things like lgbtq concerns, harm reduction issues inside the jail and mental health. i done some scholarship on the role of sheriff it comes up a lot less. in this current moment it's very important. i had also assisted with senator scott weiner sb271 which was the spending bill that would widening the pool of sheriff

candidates in san francisco. jails are mass incarcerations front door. so many more people will experience jail than prison. this is backed by research, jails are dangerous and trauma. more people commit suicide within the first few days of arrest. also because of realignment and other california policies, jails in california hold more people with greater need for longer periods of time.

lot of it is is surrounding accountability and transparency along with a great deal of public education as to who is in jail and why. i think that to speak to jail is to speak of everybody who is cycling through the many problems that happen. to speak of houselessness, poverty and to speak of racism. just to sort of end with, jails are vital part of the community. i think that the pandemic has sort of exposed the fact that september cannot tackle the challenges rooted in racism and inequity without examining the jail and policing system. it's become obvious now that communities are connected and jails are and the people in them are part of the community and important part. with that, if anyone has questions, i'm happy to answer

them. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. any questions from committee members? president walton? >> supervisor walton: i have one question in terms of being able to attend in-person meetings. obviously the goal is to get back to in-person meetings as soon as possible. i want to make sure that there are no restrictions or concerns about you being able to attend meetings in person once we go back to an in-person format? >> there will be no problem with that. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. we can go on to the next -- [indiscernible] supervisor mandelman? >> supervisor mandelman: thank

you for your application and you're obviously enormously well qualified and know much about jail and prison and sheriffs broadly. i want to reiterate a question about where you do you see opportunities for reforms in san francisco now?

>> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you ms. pishko. why don't we go on to the next applicant. mr. hanley chan. >> hello. good morning supervisor peskin, chan, mandelman and president walton. my name is hanley chan. i'm a native of san francisco, born and raised. received my associates degree in city college of san francisco. received my bachelor's of art in new college of california in san francisco. rest in peace to my mentor and legendary harry britt. love you man. i served in our country in the u.s. navy and the california national guard. i started my career as a san francisco patrol special police

officer being a proactive community policer and gained the respect of the people and the merchants within the area. i served in the san francisco sunshine ordinance task force for open government. the san francisco civil grand jury. i'm currently a private investigator. i've been elected as the first minority to serve as a district director of the san francisco bay area chapter representing the larger private investigator association in the great state of california. i'm appointed to the san francisco veterans commission and appointed by president obama as district appeals board member. i'm a member of naco. if appointed, i would propose

the following. see that the inspector general will do a proper investigations and deputy misconduct or any one in the sheriff's department that is abusing their authority. put recommendations like policies and procedures with the sheriff's department to align with the values of san francisco. strengthen relationship between the sheriff's office and the community it serve through outreach and the promotion of greater transparency of law enforcement operations. i will ensure the sheriff discipline and termination practices are treated fairly with board's recommendations. the number one thing for president walton's word is the main thing is about transparency. i served for six years at sunshine ordinance task force and open government is always

the best policy of san franciscans. born and raised in san francisco, we need openness. you all still have all my letters of recommendations, supporters that e-mailed you guys. anything else you want to ask me, ask on. i want to thank you for this opportunity to speak. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. chan. seeing no questions from colleagues. our last applicant, michael nguyen for seat 4. you're on mute. >> good morning honorable board members of -- honorable san

francisco board of supervisors and members of the public. i'm currently working at the sheriff's department. i'm a d.s.a. member. i attended george peabody elementary school in san francisco. i eventually attended the college where i earned a social and behavioral science degree. this year i will be earning a criminal justice degree out of contra costa county. i volunteered at multiple units. i volunteered at the california state military reserve in security forces. also volunteered at the san francisco police department. the youth and family services as a suicide prevention counselor, telephone counselor. my family fled vietnam war in 1975 and came to america with

nothing. we ended up in san francisco elliott street and went to the richmond district after my father had to support a family of five. he opened a restaurant. the restaurant was named golden deer. we opened -- we operated that for over 20 years. i'm an at-risk person myself. high school dropout due to my family circumstances. i overcame all of that. i eventually gave back to the program that gave to me. i understand firsthand that a majority of minorities and families are looking for a

handout. not a handout. my goal for the sheriff oversight committee is to bridge the gap between poor and impoverished families and law enforcement. i witnessed many hardships in the city. i want to help with the process and i yield back. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. nguyen. any questions for our final applicant? supervisor chan? >> supervisor chan: i want to thank mr. nguyen coming forward in submitting your application and i want to let you know, no matter what happens today whether you will be recommended

to move forward, i applaud your effort always for not giving up is really what i will love to see in you moving forward and continue to serve your community and committed to the path. not looking back. just looking forward. i appreciate that. >> supervisor peskin: colleagues , why don't we open this item up for public comment. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide public comment. call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d., 146 556 5732.

press pound and pound again. please dial star 3 to speak. we currently have approximately 9 people on the line to speak. >> caller: hi, board of supervisors. good morning and thank you for your time. i'm with the d.s.a. we like to strongly endorse michael nguyen for the sheriff's office's oversight committee. michael has been with our union for over five years. very supportive. he's been very experienced participating in our committee. as well as experienced within

the sheriff's department. i believe michael would bring to the table more labor insight, department insight and public safety insight. i think him being on the board would provide a well-balanced voice to the committee and give information to the committee on how to make the department more professional, to have that increased transparency and also to bring focus to deescalation to these high risk situations. also, just a side note on michael with our union, he's always been providing ideas and suggestions. lot of times with my conversations with him, he's brought up ideas and technology on how to reduce the amount of use of force. i think that's very key aspect of michael. i think he will be a great fit

for the committee. i think he would give you insight not only from a labor perspective but from department perspective and public safety perspective. the d.s.a. endorses michael nguyen. thank you. >> clerk: next caller please. >> caller: hi. this is josephine, recommending lonnie holmes and hanley chan. lonnie has attended many of our chinese events in our chinese community. he will be perfect for seat 3. hanley is the only chinese candidate representing the largest community in our city. he is part of the sunset safety

squad and has a strong background in law enforcement. his commitment to the community and the knowledge of the oversight board would ensure him to do a great job holding the sheriff accountable. thank you. >> clerk: next caller please. >> caller: good morning everybody. i'm a tv guy. i usually deal in highlight, scores, sound bites, live shots. i will go off script to talk about hanley chan. we're the same guy. we're always working. we sacrifice offer -- our private lives to get the job done. we never unplug. that's what the job dictates. hanley is 100% transparent. 100% committed, 100% genuine and we go back about 25 years. he doesn't hold meetings just

for the sake of having another meeting. he doesn't hide behind paragraph this and that handbook. doesn't end his day at 5:00 and he doesn't know you. he really cares what you write in the eye. we listens. that's what does it for me. been that way for as long as i've known him. i'm sure every applicant is qualified. you need hanley chan. appointing him will be a slam dunk. i'm out. >> clerk: thank you. next caller please. >> caller: chair peskin. on behalf of secure justice. i want to follow up support for jessica pishko. she's a nationally recognized

expert. i relied on her research for years as to sheriffs and jail. she's been a wonderful advisor to the sb271 campaign which will be returning next year. she was selected to provide expert witness testimony at the committee level. i hope you support her application. thank you. [please stand by]

>> the other thing is as a whole for people that are having problems with their justice system, he has a background in the legal system and he would be a really good

fit for helping with both legal systems and with the sheriff's department , mediating problem areas with the system. that's all. >> thank you. can we have thenext caller please ? >> caller: my name is wayne le , city of milbray. good morning chair peskin and supervisormandelman, supervisor chan and president walton . i have the pleasureof speaking in favor of mister hanley chan

. he's knowledgeable about law enforcement issues and has a passion for not only those who serve but also the people who are in his community. he is concerned about the safety of his community and he has innovative ideas and how to serve both shoes can be conflicting at times and i've talked about those issues and he's also reached across many other counties, that's why i'm speaking. he's been in alameda county, st. clair county so he's not the focus in san francisco. the take ideas from other is also helps other communities so the man who works for and is very passionate. i think thepassion is there that's why . this is one thing he really wanted to do and hereally wants to that document as well serve

so thank you for your time and have . >> clerk: and you can we have the next caller please ? >> caller: this is stanley robinson from the old people eating badly i don't often thought the one, i may have his name wrong but i can recommend hanley chan. he is a candidate for what you guys are trying to do and i want somebody who's going to be honestand forthright and get things done . i put support behind hanley chan. >> clerk: thank you, can we havethe next caller please ? >> caller: good afternoon supervisor walton. third-generation san franciscan

and a veteran which i came to know hanley chan calling to show my support for him you . >> clerk: can wehave the next caller please ? >> caller: this is ronnie bailey, former nfl player. and calling to give my support to hanley and isqualified for the appointment . asset and his hard work, dedication and longtime commitment without failure today . he had support for criminal intervention in psychedelics and i am ronnie bailey, i'm giving my investment to hanley chan. >> clerk: can wehave the next

caller please ? >> caller: my name is nicholas, a veterans affairs commissioner like to call in and support misterhanley chan . i found him amazing to push for veteran access to museums and currently i volunteer at the veterans justice court. the sheriff's department as an amazing pod dedicated to veterans in the jails and hanley would be invaluable in making sure thoseveterans have access to care , have access to benefits and have access to getting out of their current situation back on track tobeing citizens . and you very much to all the supervisors or your time and we see in the call?

>> caller: supervisors, we need a person hanley chan who can help us understand the various issues that we have here in san francisco. as you know,. we just can't be blaming people on both sides. we need better facilities and we need programs and focused meetings where the community participates in helping what i happening in the jails . there's norehabilitation going

on right now . so we need someone like mister chan who i've known for a long time who canhelp us . thankyou very much . >> clerk: thankyou. can we have the next caller please ? >> caller: can you hear me? >> clerk: yes we can, please proceed. >> caller: eugene lynch . humbly asking to endorse and approve hanley chan. i've known him probably 30 years when he was a patrol special in the polk gulch. he had skills to reach out to all diverse groups of people and i think he would be asecond

set of eyes and ears on this commission, on this board . he would give everyone a fair shake and a fairhearing . and i just want to thank all thesupervisors for listening. q . thank you. >> clerk: i believewe have one additional caller .>> caller: can you hear me now? >> clerk: yes we can, please proceed. >> caller: on item for the sheriff's departmentoversight board appointments , stanley roberts and vernon glenncalling in today ? what a rules committee meeting. anyway, i joined with others in supporting the appointment of hanley chan. i served with him on sunshine ordinance task force some years

back . i found him to be interesting and slightly unpredictable which i thought was useful. so i think having somebody like hanley serving on this board with his understanding of the politics and procedures would come in handy as this new board comes in. thanks very much . >> clerk: thank you. i believe that concludes public comment. >> chair peskin: public comment is close, thank you to all the members of the public for your comment and thankyou to the eight applicants . it is never easy when you have eight qualified applicants for four seats. i appreciate the fact that professor walton has joined us as he is the ultimate offer of

thelegislation that brought this oversight board into being . while certainly this is a decision for the committee to recommend to the full board, i for one would very much like to hear the thoughts and suggestions of the father of this legislation. so i don't want to put you on the spot professor walton but we seek your guidance. >> president walton: i wanted to again appreciate you and the entirecommittee . i wouldn't have it any other way but half your support for something like this. i want to thank the applicants for being willing to serve in thiscapacity . we do not take these appointments likely and we are faced with another hard choice as supervisor peskin pointed

out.we have eightapplicants and only 4 appointments today . there's a lot of experience and you have taken time to submit applications and go through this process so i'd say thank you. i would 100 percent encourage anyone who does not get selected to serve on this committee to continue to pursue other ways and opportunities to help affect change in san francisco because i think we would benefit from all of your work in some capacity. with that said chair peskin i'd like to make a recommendation that this committeeforward with the following names for the sheriff's department oversight board . [inaudible] 4c 1, jason wachter for seat 2, jason palmer 3 had michael win for seat 4.

>> chair peskin: thank you for doing the hard work for us. >> president walton: i believe my commitment is to a waiver. >> chair peskin: i was just going tosay that. that works for me but i would love to hear my colleagues , supervisors mandelman and chan. can you support the president's recommendation ? one thumbs up from mandelman. most definitely and as always thank you chair peskin and supervisor walton for making the recommendation, doing the hard work as well and i just wanted to sayto all applicants to , i think that just because there's not a recommendation for you to move forward that you should give up on the work that you've been working on and committed to for all so once to

follow for a lot of these coming to the committee that we always encourage everyone to do the work because we need all the helpthat we can get . especially on this issue which moving forward holding our sheriff's county accountable and improving the situation for those who are incarcerated so thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you supervisor chan. i could not have put it better myself . so on behalf of residents walton let me make a bat motion that he stated for those who for individuals with the residency waiver for michael win on c4. on that motion mister clark, >> to confirm we have a lot to see one.

jason mosher to seek to, william pollard to see three and mike you and to c4 with a waiver on that motion . supervisor mandelman. supervisor chan. the motion passes without objection. >> chair peskin: thank you to all applicants and as my colleagues said please stay involved if you need an example of individual who does not serve on everybody that participates in almost all of them, review speaker on two items mister bothell be that example. mister clark, would you please read the next item.>> thank you. item number five is the chair writing three members to the

redistricting task force. we have three seats, eight applicants . we have to withdrawn applicants of choices and nsftimmons have withdrawn their applications . >> thank you mister young. colleagues, this is arguably the most important processes that the city undertakes every decade and i want to thank all of the remaining six kids who've expressed desire to serve on the important redistricting taskforce . particularly given the time frames after the census was delayed by the previous presidential administration reading through the applications and emails from supporters, it is clear that as of last item we have a wealth of talent and diverse on community stakeholders tochoose from . and it will not be aneasy

choice again .but i'm great to be able to chair the committee tasked with this moment and helping initiate the process that the board folks will be fair and inclusive and unbiased and accessible and i'll just state for the record that i was a little troubled by revelations that i read yesterday in 48 bills some of the appointments from the elections commission may have a history of express partisanship so we will keep an eye on that. this will be a significant tim commitment in a pretty compressed timeframe . and so i want to make sure that every applicant is able to their ability to serve including the time. when president walton and i cosponsored the legislation establishing the redistricting

task force we also took a look at the process a decade ago and what could be improved on tomorrow we will be voting on funding for four supervisors included in the budget to make surewe have adequate resources for language access, materials translation and technical support for meetings as well as online . and i really want to thank our board for stepping up to shepherd this process through during the months ahead and ensuring that we learn from what happened a decade ago in 2011 and approve it for everybody she's indicated that the task force should be able to convene starting in the middle of next month and august and is diligently preparing a notice. the what will probably be some 30 meetings between now and the final report issuance inapril of next year . it's no small task and i wanted

to start by expressing my gratitude to whoever the lucky or unlucky winners are at the outset. i also want to thank all of the open democracy organizations advocated for more and more representatives as well as transparent process ranging from the league of women voters andthe ice democraticclub and many others . for the applicants today as i mentioned , this hearing from you about your ability as well as why you want to serve on the task force and if you were around a decade ago what the takeaways were from the last task force process. whether it was based on your direct participation or just based on your review of what happened in 2011 and the final report. with that supervisors jan, would you like to offer any opening comments for we go to

the six applicants for three seats? okay, well then why do we start in order they are listed and again, as we said in the last item and even more true insofar as half of the six will be recommended, i just want to start with an admonition that this truly is an inclusive process and for those of you who do not ultimately get a recommended spot on his body, the encouragement to stay actively involved during this process so with that wewill start with german lee . >> good afternoon chair, vice chair supervisor chan. my name is jeremy lee and i come before the rules committee with the hope of being appointed to the redistricting taskforce. i am a proudthird-generation

sand . the city is and will always be my whole . since 2016- heart of san francisco's robust political grassroots community area i've knocked on doors and all 11 districts and i have long conversations with presidents and yes, far too many doors slammed in my face area as the current vice president of the democratic club i've been involved in issues facing san francisco's api community members of the disparity committee and the entire board on issues of public safety, language access, affordable access and transportation for the past four years i've worked at chinatown c, 44-year-old institution in san francisco's china. work in asset-management tolling financial is headed income . i see the hard numbers every

single day. nine person crammed into studio apartment. seniors pay me or $300 rent an . i for what poverty looks like in san francisco. i will be a strong voice for our city's tenants, low income seniors, immigrants and working-class families. i know the importance of chosen family and how vital maintaining back and is real pleasure to serve i hope task force will sit down with each member of the board. i'd like to place to speak with many has many community as possible and most importantly i would like what trust the task force will not break up or dilute what is one of our most

vulnerable communities read the work of the task force will not be easy. city has experienced unimaginable population changes when the district relied on the end result of the task force that is not to make everyone happy but the work to be done if given the chance to serve i will ensure the task force will keep our neighborhoods full especially our marginalized committees . iwant to thank each member committee for their time and consideration . i would be honored to have your support and the opportunity to serve our great city on the redistricting taskforce . thank you and i'm available for any questions from the committee . >>. >> chair peskin: seeing no questions from the committee, members must go on to josi fernandez gill. the floor is yours. >> good afternoon chair peskin. my name is fernandez gill i'm a resident of this where i have

lived in 2014 and i've had the pleasure of living in this great city of san francisco2010 . on a candidate to the redistricting to force and am excited by the possibility of getting to this very important redistricting process and i'm also very confident mine of the city and its neighborhoods and its diversecommunities and geographies will help me these goals . i have had significant experience in civic and get and organizing with communities of and working-class san franciscans for the past decade and i would be happy to bring this knowledge and experience to the redistricting process. has a set is not a us citizen i would also because that citizenship acquirement for members of city body that makes me very happy. over the last decade or so i

have worked with many organizations here in san francisco both paid and as a volunteer.i was a community organizer with the bicycle coalition for 4 years and a coordinator with the san francisco rising alliance 2018 managed many civic engagement and election cycles every singledistrict during that time . today and for the past 3 and a half years i've been a political organizer with sau local 10 to 1 and have worked as a political education here in san francisco and the north they have worked to build political education and increase engagement with our membership group each political cycle. previously i worked for a decade in switzerland in the technology sector and have an

education in engineering . work as the development or of businessdevelopment is only because i'm aware of a lot about the need to be performed during this process . and and other issues i've been elected member of the san francisco bike coalition board of directors, the sierra club san francisco, x, executive committee and a member of the district board ofdirectors and have been for several years . with, thank you for your time. see one thank you for mister hernandez gill . presenter is mark powell. >> iq chair peskin, supervisor chan and mandelman president will. i have i strongly urge you recommend chamber hernandez gill and michelle pierce on to the full board for appointment

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seeing no comments, i don't know if he will be able to attend. he sent an email earlier saying he might notbe able to attend . if he is not available, let's go on to michelle pierce. >> thank you guys very much. i'm a little bit nervous. i am saddened to hear that vanessa joy are not up for approval. i am honored to be in this pool. i think this is a very deep pool of people. and i'm usually before you guys to complain or lecture, etc.. i'm not usually here to entreat you guys to point me to something so i am very honored a little bit awkwardhere . that being said i do want to

say that i was born on patrol hill and moved to hunter! when i was five. spent my entire childhood bouncing between patrol hill and dogpatch in soma commission and visitation valley and lmi. every single time it comes to redistricting in my entire lifetime, the burden is always fallen on those neighborhoods which i grew up in and which we all identify getting divided up for a vote in every single time we go through this process there is a little bit oftrauma every time we are separated . i am interested in being on this for because i recognize that and have how sensitive this is truly how much of this is about the inequities of our

planning department and the lack of understanding of what that means if i am appointed my real goal is to listen to all of you guys who are part of the board and particularly all of the community members and really bringing access to their voices and to this process as well as again, endorsing widmark about really being intentional on our focus on data and how that gets divided and how we go forward with further divvying up the city but i really wanted to stress that. these issues are traumatic. we need people who have the trust of the community as well as the year of you guys and the various city departments and i don't feel that the

appointments today by the election committee are that so we really want to ensure in the place with the most i would say diverse and inclusive board i have ever lived right now that you guys make the right choice . i will be happy to get my seat to any and the remaining six school that, but please be intentional and howyou go forward with this . it iscritical to us on the bayside . if you see one thank you that will take usto our final applicant, miss holly marshall . >> hi. i on west and mark. >> chair peskin: you are. >> and polly marshall. i've been in san francisco since1978 , first in the mission district event in

bernal heights. i'm 64 years old and i raise two children in san francisco. i was a tenant commissioner on entrances force for 35 years, person appointed by dianne feinstein appointed by every mayor thereafter. i have a 30 year career in affordable housing and community development as an attorney representing cities, counties and nonprofits. there are two things i want to say . first, is that i moved to san francisco in 1998 before the more murders of harvey milk. i worked on the campaign to redistricting elections in 1980, 1987, 1994 and 1996 so i have a detailed working knowledge of what these elections have meant to san francisco. district elections were first in 1997 and as a direct result san francisco elected its first

african-american supervisor, its first asian-american supervisor and its first openly gay supervisor . in that first election. in 1980 in the aftermath of bundled murders those collections were repealed and it took three more elections in 87, 94 and 96 to bring them back. so i know what it meant for san francisco to have citywide elections where money is pretty much determinative and i know what it's meant to have district elections where neighborhoods and constituencies are empowered. in the essence of district elections obviously is the district which is what this task force is appointed to study and modify asnecessary . though my point is that having lived here for over four years i have excellent understanding of the demographics of our city and our district and as a red

ford commissioner for the five years i've seen the day today about . the rentincreases, attempted elections , the landlord and tenant interactions, the day by day affect the lives of ordinary san franciscans and consequentlydistricts . we i've been asked how i contribute to the diversity of the city and how i represent this diversity on the redistricting task force and my answer to that is that i am part of a tenants rent community fighting for rent control, just cause eviction, and all the other tenant protection measures that are thebackbone of this city's diversity . it allowed for and nurtured this cities celebrated diversity and without these measures there's far less diversity. itwould not be a place for working people, people of

color, not a home to immigrants all over the world not a mecca for young gay or lesbian people coming from altoona. not a safe havenfor all these diverse people . maybe not a haven for them all . so as an activist and a rent for commissioner i've been a major figurein these struggles . another way to think about this is to consider what the board of supervisors would look like todaywere it not for the tenants movement . this movement which cuts across all communities deserves a look by the redistricting task force and if there's no rights representation it would be a glaringomission . if appointed i pledge to represent this community and work hard to preserve hard-won power and diversity itpreserves in the city . i'll end by saying i am honored to be considered for thisother panel of truly wonderful people . thank you.

>> chair peskin:thank you miss marshall. i'm sorry for notcalling you back over the weekend . i did not see to any of the applicants . with that, why don't we open this up to public comment? are theremembers of the public would like to item number five ? >> members of the public wish to provide public comment to call 415 55 0001. meeting id is 146 556 5732. then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so please dialáthree lineup to speak. a system promptwill indicate you have raised your hand . please indicate you have been a muted and you may continue your comments. looks like we have 16 colors on the line. first speaker please. >> i was preparedto say good morning but good afternoon .

i am the first of what i hope will be a long list of colors supporting candidates who have a deep commitment to maintaining and strengthening the power of the working class community of color. in particular, i am echoing the support of san francisco rising in supporting the appointments of chairman hernandez and lee and michelle pierce to the task force. there is a long list of their accomplishments and commitments and heat we would be happy to have them as advocates for the collective power of the working class san franciscans among which i welcome to in a large part. >> you miss gomez, next speaker please.

>> can you hear me.>> yes we can. >> i supervisors. my name is jonathan mays, i moved tosan francisco in 1979 . i've been in the city for 30 years (that. and over the years i've been involved in san francisco politicsincluding all three of your campaigns .so i'm also calling today to ask you to support the three candidates that are being put forward by then franciscorising . redistricting is important. it's a way to make sure san francisco communities remain united and cohesive. and that communities of color are empowered and that all the communities of san francisco voters are heard area so the three candidates that i would like you to support our chairman hernandez gil, jeremy lee andmichelle pierce .

jeremy is asian-american, michelle is african-american and they all have deep roots in their communities many years of community activism and civic engagement . i know they will work hard to make sure the redistricting process is fair and transparent and empowering to all san franciscovoters so thank you . >> can we have the next collar please. >> name is mimi klausner and i lived in san francisco for 36 years area i'm calling to strongly urge you to appoint josi maria hernandez, jeremy lee and michelle pierce to the sanfrancisco redistricting task force . these applicants have many years of dedication and experience in diverse communities across san francisco and are the best candidates to facilitate

community participation and ensure that the needs of traditionally marginalized communities are represented and prioritized in the districting process. thank you for your time. >> and we have the next collar please.>> good afternoon supervisors, this is trey of north beach. i'm calling in support of polly marshall given the rest of her lived experience, or knowledge. the focus on tenants rights an as she stated very clearly , we are here most of us in this city as a diverse city because of a lot of the work that polly has done. i cannot star 3 it's an amazing group of candidates and i

cannot say anything about the others area i wish you well. i'm glad you have to make that choice but it's a great group of people and again, i think that polly marshall will balance the whole of nine in terms of her long lived experience and work here in this city. so thank youvery much . >> chair peskin: thank you. can wehave the next collar please ? >> caller: good afternoon, rules committee chair peskin and members mandelman and chan. this is anastasia you novelist, number of the tenants union which is part race andinequity in all planning coalition . i listened to all these applicants and i do urge you to

support the appointment of polly marshall. to serve on the redistricting taskforce . it's really important for tenants to be well represented in the redistricting process. since redistricting will determine what the supervisor districts will look like in the future.you've heard polly marshall testified to her long service in support of renters and the city. please, i urge you to appoint this excellent choice for a seat on theredistricting task force . iq. >> can we have the next collar please read. >> caller: hello. my name is one of florida's. [speaking spanish] [speaking

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[speaking spanish] >> chair peskin: there may be an associate of miss florez on the line with some comments and we will providetranslation. unless one of the members has something else in mind . >> chair peskin: that works and i think we are understood those were words of support for chairman hernandez gil, michelle pierceand jeremy lee

butif there's somebody available to translate , please proceed . >> can we have the next collar please?>> regina eastbrook, district 1 calling to urge that jeremy lee, james michelle pierce and polly marshall be appointed for the three available seats forall the reasons given and more . and thank you, i yield my time. >> clerk: thank you, next speaker please. >> caller: this is lauren joe arden with theleague of women voters of san francisco . the league is not supporting or opposing any of the candidates for the redistricting task force that you're considering we want to supervisor peskin! we should learn from previous districting processes, it's

helpful to point out the number of applicants for the task force sees this year you're considering is much lower than the number ofapplicants the elections commission received . i have over 30 area and also much lower than the number of applicants supported in 2011. in 2011 the board considered 2 applicants . thistime just ate . the league of women voters isn't recommending any specific action but would like to point out this to the supervisors, understanding the previous process and for you to use in yourconsideration . if you need any more information on the previous processes let me know.

some folks in the room at work onthe process last time so we will share that information . >> thank you. >> caller: i have been a bay area resident for nearly 2 decades and i am calling in to urge you to support chairman hernandez gil, chairman lee and michelle pierce to the redistricting task force. with daily attacks on our democracy it is more important ever for someone capable to lead the way in ensuring our redistricting task force is representative of the diverse san francisco community because it's not just about elections but redistricting is also a vital part of ensuring that all communities equal voice and equitable share of resources in our democracy. the way we draw the map now will have a profound effect on the ability of our most marginalized communities to

access important resources and have a seat at the table for the next 10 years so it's critical we appoint community leaders reflect real lived experiences of other san francisco residents and who can those needs and concerns of community members so please take this opportunity and ensure this process does not perpetuate the disparities in our communities but gives marginalized communities the tools and i ask for your appointment of german hernandez gil and michelle pierce. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: my name is jill schenker, interim director of san francisco rising and i'll start first by echoing these comments. i represent immigrant latino women in sanfrancisco as the executive director . i request you please appoint chairman hernandez guild, lee and michelle pierce to the

redistricting task force. these are the people you need because they truly know our communities . wewant our voices tobe heard. and we want resources , equitably outfitted for our community .these are communities that we work with. thesethree candidates are knowledgeable .they have a track record of hard work in our communities. chairman fernandez gill as the connections in the latin text community and i have seen this commitment and hard work. jeremy has worked extensively in the chinese community and in particular has a deep understandingof tenants rights issues and michelle pierce as work hard for environmental economic and social justice. please appoint these three community champions to the task force .so that was my comment and i wanted to share that san francisco rising is an alliance of eight grassroots organizations that represent thousands of unity members in the latin, chinese, filipino

and blackcommunities of san francisco . chinese association, the lower three community services and as fd labor program and filipino kennedy center, just cause, and coleman advocates and filipino community centers so that's all of those organizations have signed on tothe letter of support . for jeremy lee, and michelle pierce. professionally given let the elections commission's appointments do not represent people who are deeply rooted in working-class communities of color in san francisco . we really hope you all will prioritize appointing people of color to this task force will are deeply rooted in long-term organization and really know

the issues affecting working-classcommunities or communities of color in san francisco . we respect and appreciate holidayslong time work with tenants and around tenants rights . and we feel like you all have a particular opportunity here to select a appointments of people of color who are deeply connected to communities of color in san francisco to help ensure cohesion and you know, access to political power and voice and equitable distribution of resources like supervisor that get elected to these communities. so thank you for your time on this and we look forwardto hearing your appointments today . >> thank you, next speaker please. >> we can hear you.>> there he is again. good afternoon on item 5 the

redistricting task force appointments, the ordinance convening the task force board of supervisors filed 2106 06 was only signed by the mayor on july 2 and is therefore effective 30 days later on august 1 so i believe that this action today may be premature. acknowledge that the board posted the vacancy notice on the board of supervisors website on june 28 of this year but i believe there's been very limited publicity otherwise. i'm not aware that the board of supervisors included a reference to this task force in their monthlynewsletters. there's no outreach advertising . this is kind of very inside baseball. the actions commission had 33 ultimate applicants and appointed their three. therefore a disappointed 30 applicants and only three of

those disappointed applicants have applied here. the elections commission was to notify unsuccessful applicants of the board of supervisors and the mayoral appointment opportunities in the process and send letters to both board and the mayor with their list of unsuccessful candidates. i'm unclear those communications have happened. there are likely between 800 and 900,000 san francisco residents today and only six applicants here and it sounds like only five are actively pursuing it right now. i urge you to continue this item in committee until next week and encourage more people to apply. you have a larger pool and i would note the diverse city cuts in a number of ways. age, ethnicity, gender, geography and a number of other factors. for examplethere are no applicants today from the west side at all . if you do not continue ...

>> any othermembers of the public for item number five . >> i'm jesse, we are a member organization with sf rising. certainly our obligations make sure that equity inclusion is how district lines are going to be drawn and make sure this is a critical opportunity to do the necessary work that course correct and accounts for a legacy of inclusion , disinvestment disenfranchisement across working-class immigrants communities of color in san francisco. indeed when these maps are gone we must take into account community needs, community resilience and ensure the voices of marginalized communities are very equitable . and for this i'd like to lend my strong support for chairman

hernandez gil, jeremy lee and the shelf years to the sf redistricting task force read these applicants have a proven track record of genuine collaboration, leadership development and service to diverse communities across san francisco . this experience will enable them and the redistricting process to be transparent and true represent the needs and experiences of diverse communities. these are the best candidates tofacilitate community participation and ensure the needs of traditionally marginalized communities are represented and prioritized in this process . >> next speaker. >> good afternoonsupervisors . thank you for holding this hearing. i'm with the league of women voters san francisco and we advocate for a more air equitable transit redistricting process. to chair peskin!

earlier about transparencyin the process , where can people go now for information on the redistricting taskforce ? on the san francisco government website or where will the information live when the task force convenes in midaugust ? we commend the efforts of the city and especially clerk victor young for answering are endless questions concerning the appointment processso we can help with outreach . we want to make sure the public can easily access this information. this is a once in a decade process and local engagement of redistricting for the last half houris of vital importance . that's my comment and thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you and allof that will be available on

a number of places including the board of supervisors website . mister young, you're also welcome to address that last speaker but we will see if there are any othermembers of the public or publiccomment . >> clerk: i believe that was the last caller in mind . >> chair peskin: public comment isclosed re-at mister young, anything you want to state i just made ? about where information will be obtainable by thepublic . i indicated in so far as the clerk of the board of supervisors has been a lot of resources, that information will be available on the website going forward. as to committee meetings, task force meetings. >> i believe we will create a website associated with the sf pos website.

i'm not completely sure. one of our clerks mister lebo will be the clerk for the committee and we will get that information online as soon as we can. >> chair peskin: thank you mister young. with that why don't i turn it over to committee? i saw supervisor chan's hands go up. were you waving at me? i see no names on the roster so i'm trying to read hand gestures. i'm happy to start with vice chair mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you vice chair peskin and supervisor chan. we say it a lotin this committee .we often get an abundance or overabundance of riches and i think this is one of thosesituations . in some ways we cannot do badly

with the folks who have put their names forward . i do real pretty thoughtfully aboutpolly marshall . i imagine it's partly related to my having known her for going on 20 years i think now. but i also think the arguments for her appointment to this body are prettystrong . i think the points made by the tenant advocacy committee about the importance of having tenan representation on the redistricting task force are valid . i think her long history of advocacy not to say anything about her age. she started as a rent for commissioner at ayoung age . >>. [please stand by ]

>> c. chan: thank you. i don't have the privilege of working so closely. i think it's critical to have some lands of those who know our city and needs and making sure there's representation especially in the difficult task like redistricting. i do, however, at the same time think that referencing the message that mark has submitted to him who offered his service carve out a space for those that he thinks could be taking the leadership role and maybe while just have the deep roots with the communities but in this case

the communities of color and space to give a voice to thez ie in a leadership role for communities in color. i ready today to make a motion to move forward with the three of those that is the candidates. just seeing that we can still work together, we can still see that the legacy of someone like mass harley marshall can be a part of the task forward. continuing to take a leadership role. perhaps i can rely on her expertise as the task force

members. i'd ready to move that forward. colleagues, i'm looking for your support and leadership on this as well. >> chair peskin: thank you. i look forward to that as well as well as the applicants we spoke to. i'm also very impressed by mr. powell. i think what was said and you mrs. chan reiterated. this is truly a process where

people can can stay involved and to the folks who spoke about timeframes, this is a, i would compress timeframes because the federal government dragged it's feet. we're on the verge of coming on summer recess, time is not our friend here. as i said at the outset and i really mean it and i'm interested in making the connections between those people who we ultimately select and those people who have applied and won't be selected. i think mark powell's expertise and marshall's tenant expertise

is crucial. it's not an easy decision and i have respect for all of these individuals that i ultimately follow with the public comment that we've heard and what supervisor chan just articulated relative to mr. lee, gill, and ms. pierce. i'm happy to get all five of you together, that would not be a brown act violation to work hand in hand. if there are no final comments, i believe mrs. chan made a motion. if there are additional comments, colleagues, feel free to make them. if not, i'll have the clerk call the roll on supervisor chan's motion. seeing no comments, mr. young, a

role call please. >> clerk: seat numbers were not indicated. on that motion -- (roll call). before i make the announcement, would you like to send this out as committee report. >> chair peskin: given our compressed timeframes is that acceptable to the maker of the

motion. >> c. chan: yes, indeed. >> clerk: on the motion for appointments as a committee report. (roll call). the motion passes, the recommendation will be added as a committee report. >> chair peskin: okay. last item please. >> clerk: establish the sun set district to require the mayor of housing and development to submit reports to the board of supervisors proposing strategies to the district and preserve the

cultural district and the environmental quality act. >> chair peskin: this is a new amendment and the floor is yours. >> thank you for this opportunity to establish the chinese sun set district. i will keep my remarks brief as i know you've had a long meeting and the land use committee is is coming up. the historic role of the chinese cultural district. the vitality of it this important community in the face of many challenges including

housing affordability and gentrification. if established through the legislation the sun set chinese cultural district will be the city's chinese cultural district. cultural districts are geographic districts are cities in our body that have a significant portion of residents or people who spend time in an area are members of a specific ethnic or historical cultural group and many have been -- this important new effort to

create the sun set chinese cultural district came out of a broader sun set community district that my office created a year ago. as we were getting input on priority community needs through the sun set forward process. many spoke about the importance of increasing support for the chinese community in the sun set to address the unique challenges and make sure this community is able to thrive in the future. it's aligned with the key priority in stabilizing vulnerable communities at risk of displacement. the chinese community has grown rapidly to become 40% of the population and an important part of that identity with a major presence in the business

corridor. most chinese households are are hard working multi generational families. the chinese community has lacked consistent opportunity it come together across roots and sectors to work together collaboratively and have a stronger voice in advocating for the needs of the community. as housing costs have sky rocketed over the decades fewer and fewer chinese families have been able to afford to buy a home or rent a decent apartment apartmentin the area. many long standing businesses have permanent closed. today there are few chinese owned businesses, with economic

trends already indicating long term displacement of historic chinese families, they face an uncertain future. this will be an important new strategy to support priority needs now and into the future. in over the past nine months, my office worked with over a dozen organizations, churches, and businesses to develop the plan for the chinese culture district. i want to thank all the community stake holders for their participation. i want to thank brian and julia for their support of the planning process and the historic commission for their

positive recommendation of approval of this ordinance. i would like to acknowledge the very important and really ground breaking research and documentation of the rich history in the sunshine district with support from my predecessor katie chang. this provides important historical background and wonderful exhibit will hopefully find a home. chair and colleagues, the senior planner in the sf finding department is here it to provide some remarks about the geographic boundaries and process for this initiative. thank you for your time again, i urge you to support this and send this to the full board as a

committee report so we can adopt this before our august recess. >> chair peskin: thank you. to the represent of the planning department. >> good afternoon. i'm planning department staff. the item before you today is a set of proposed amendments to the administrative code that would create the cultural district. it would cover the area from lincoln way to the north. nineteen avenue to the east and the great highway to the west. the historical preservation society heard this item and recommended approval of this item. we are available if you have any questions about the h pc hearing

or the cultural district in general. that concludes my brief presentation. thanks. >> chair peskin: thank you. should be open this up to public comment, why don't we do that. mr. clerk. any items who would like to provide public comment today. >> clerk: yes, any members of the public who would like to speak on this item. please dial star three to line up to speak. we currently have six people on line listening and three in line to speak. >> chair peskin: first speaker, please. >> good afternoon chair and

members of the committee. i'm the president of asian ink. we're pleased to be working in partnership with non profits for the elderly. we were pleased to participate in a town hall to support the chinese cultural district. it's important during this time especially during a time of a pandemic within a pandemic of asian hate. support the needs of asian americans. we have seen the chill of business activity as a result of the corona virus but also of hate that prevents people from conducting business. we feel the needs of the sun set

district. we hope to work in partnership with those organizations and in partnership with is they to advance the economic development needs, chinese american corridor businesses. many of those businesses have been seeking support throughout the pandemic from our organization and others. at a time of anti hate and violence needs to be addressed, we need to come up with very direct support and strategies. this is a cod fiction and allows us to work together for solutions for that community to emerge from the pandemic. i appreciate you all for your time and the opportunity to address you this afternoon. >> chair peskin: thank you. can we hear from the next

speaker, please. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm ben wong, the secretary active director of the school. i grew of in san francisco and grew up in district one. the chinese beacons at the elementary school in district three serve as the director's school. i want to thank the san francisco planning department in assisting the community and establishing the shine ease district effort. as a long standing non-profit, bilingual child care for over

forty years, we're a partner with the planning department, community that we know is one that is diverse and vibrant many of whom reside in multi generational homes. many have parents and grandparents who are alumni. we serve over a thousand children and youth in our programs. many of whom have continue today give back to the community even through the pandemic. as a result of this work that we're familiar with the needs and challenges of those that live there. we know it's important address those needs and the best solution to come up with are a partnership across section of community members that live and

work in the neighborhood. we think the cultural district would be a benefit of different sectors of infrastructure. having culture district would be a good thing for the is sun set district. >> clerk: thank you. your time is up. >> chair peskin: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm winy with soft ball for the elderly. the first home we lived in was the sun set. the play house. we had to expand the center who formembers who wanted to join or

activities. we're serving over five thousand seniors in the district. there's a critical need for resources. the pandemic show us there's more need for food, groceries, income for rent and other necessities for survival. we hope this initiative helps us work together and develop a cohesive community building strategy that includes more generational programming, housing, educational, and employment opportunities. we need a center space in the district. we look forward to working closely with supervisor mar and other community partners to make sun set the most liveable neighborhood in the district and

live, work, and play. thank you for this townt share y to share with you today. >> chair peskin: any other public comment. >> clerk: that was the last comment. >> chair peskin: public comment is now closed. what is the will of the rules committee. supervisor chan. >> c. chan: i want to thank supervisor mar for your leadership, setting the chinese cultural district. we know that we as chinese immigrants who really segregated in china town that we actually have to fight and to really go beyond china town and we know that by identifying the cultural

district like sun set that help us to understand our history, we also know that the richmond is in the past and continued to know as second china town. we know there's deep history there. it's good to see there's a chinese cultural district to identify and recognize chinese immigrants and our history beyond china town right now. thank you for your leadership on this and i look forward to supporting this. >> chair peskin: do you want to make a motion supervisor chan. >> c. chan: sure. i will make the motion to approve this item an move forward to the full board as a committee report and with recommendation. >> chair peskin: clerk young, roll call please. >> clerk: to move as a

committee report. (roll call). the motion passes without objection. >> chair peskin: and we are adjourned.

>> candlestick park known also as the stick was an outdoor stadium for sports and entertainment. built between 1958 to 1960, it was located in the bayview hunters point where it was home to the san francisco giants and 49ers. the last event held was a concert in late 2014. it was demolished in 2015. mlb team the san francisco giants played at candlestick from 1960-1999. fans came to see players such a willie mays and barry bonds, over 38 seasons in the open ballpark. an upper deck expansion was added in the 1970s. there are two world series played at the stick in 1962 and in 198 9. during the 1989 world series against the oakland as they were shook by an earthquake.

candlestick's enclosure had minor damages from the quake but its design saved thousands of lives. nfl team the san francisco 49ers played at candlestick from feign 71-2013. it was home to five-time super bowl champion teams and hall of fame players by joe montana, jerry rice and steve jones. in 1982, the game-winning touchdown pass from joe montana to dwight clark was known as "the catch." leading the niners to their first super bowl. the 49ers hosted eight n.f.c. championship games including the 2001 season that ended with a loss to the new york giants. in 201, the last event held at candlestick park was a concert by paul mccartney who played with the beatles in 1966, the stadium's first concert. demolition of the stick began in late 2014 and it was completed

in september 2015. the giants had moved to pacific rail park in 2000 while the 49ers moved to santa clara in 2014. with structural claims and numerous name changes, many have passed through and will remember candlestick park as home to the legendary athletes and entertainment. these memorable moments will live on in a place called the stick. (♪♪♪)

>> restaurants will be open for take out only, but nonessential

stores, like bars and gyms, will close effective midnight tonight. [♪♪♪] >> my name is sharky laguana. i am a small business owner. i own a company called vandigo van rentals. it rents vans to the music industry. i am also a member of the small business commission as appointed by mayor breed in 2019. i am a musician and have worked as a professional musician and recording artist in the 90s. [♪♪♪] >> we came up in san francisco,

so i've played at most of the live venues as a performer, and, of course, i've seen hundreds of shows over the years, and i care very, very deeply about live entertainment. in fact, when i joined the commission, i said that i was going to make a particular effort to pay attention to the arts and entertainment and make sure that those small businesses receive the level of attention that i think they deserve. >> this is a constantly and rapidly changing situation, and we are working hard to be aggressive to flatten the curve to disrupt the spread of covid-19. >> when the pandemic hit, it was crystal clear to me that this was devastating to the music industry because live venues had to completely

shutdown. there was no way for them to open for even a single day or in limited capacity. that hit me emotionally as an artist and hit me professionally, as well as a small business that caters to artists, so i was very deeply concerned about what the city could do to help the entertainment committee. we knew we needed somebody to introduce some kind of legislation to get the ball rolling, and so we just started texting supervisor haney, just harassing him, saying we need to do something, we need to do something. he said i know we need to do something, but what do we do? we eventually settled on this idea that there would be an independent venue recovery fund. >> clerk: there are 11 ayes. >> president walton: thank you. without objection, this resolution is passed unanimously.

>> and we were concerned for these small mom-and-pop businesses that contribute so much to our arts community. >> we are an extremely small venue that has the capacity to do extremely small shows. most of our staff has been working for us for over ten years. there's very little turnover in the staff, so it felt like family. sharky with the small business commission was crucial in pestering supervisor haney and others to really keep our industry top of mind. we closed down on march 13 of 2020 when we heard that there was an order to do so by the

mayor, and we had to call that show in the middle of the night. they were in the middle of their sound check, and i had to call the venue and say, we need to cancel the show tonight. >> the fund is for our live music and entertainment venues, and in its first round, it will offer grants of at least $10,000 to qualifying venues. these are venues that offer a signature amount of live entertainment programming before the pandemic and are committed to reopening and offering live entertainment spaces after the pandemic. >> it's going to, you know, just stave off the bleeding for a moment. it's the city contributing to helping make sure these venues are around, to continue to be part of the economic recovery for our city. >> when you think about the

venues for events in the city, we're talking about all of them. some have been able to come back adaptively over the last year and have been able to be shape shifters in this pandemic, and that's exciting to see, but i'm really looking forward to the day when events and venues can reopen and help drive the recovery here in san francisco. >> they have done a study that says for every dollar of ticket sales done in this city, $12 goes to neighboring businesses. from all of our vendors to the restaurants that are next to our ven sues and just so many other things that you can think of, all of which have been so negatively affected by covid. for this industry to fail is unthinkable on so many levels. it's unheard of, like, san francisco without its music

scene would be a terribly dismal place. >> i don't know that this needs to be arrest -- that there needs to be art welfare for artists. we just need to live and pay for our food, and things will take care of themselves. i think that that's not the given situation. what san francisco could do that they don't seem to do very much is really do something to support these clubs and venues that have all of these different artists performing in them. actually, i think precovid, it was, you know, don't have a warehouse party and don't do a gig. don't go outside, and don't do this. there was a lot of don't, don't, don't, and after the pandemic, they realized we're a big industry, and we bring a lot of money into this city, so they need to encourage and hope these venues. and then, you know, as far as people like me, it would be

nice if you didn't only get encouraged for only singing opera or playing violin. [♪♪♪] >> entertainment is a huge part of what is going to make this city bounce back, and we're going to need to have live music coming back, and comedy, and drag shows and everything under the sun that is fun and creative in order to get smiles back on our faces and in order to get the city moving again. [♪♪♪] >> venues serve a really vital function in society. there aren't many places where people from any walk of life, race, religion, sexuality can come together in the same room and experience joy, right?

experience love, experience anything that what makes us human, community, our connective tissues between different souls. if we were to lose this, lose this situation, you're going to lose this very vital piece of society, and just coming out of the pandemic, you know, it's going to help us recover socially? well, yeah, because we need to be in the same room with a bunch of people, and then help people across the country recover financially. >> san francisco art recovery fund, amazing. it opened yesterday on april 21. applications are open through may 5. we're encouraging everyone in the coalition to apply. there's very clear information on what's eligible, but that's basically been what our coalition has been advocating for from the beginning. you know, everyone's been supportive, and they've all been hugely integral to this

program getting off the ground. you know, we found our champion with supervisor matt haney from district six who introduced this legislation and pushed this into law. mayor breed dedicated $1.5 million this fund, and then supervisor haney matched that, so there's $3 million in this fund. this is a huge moment for our coalition. it's what we've been fighting for all along. >> one of the challenges of our business is staying on top of all the opportunities as they come back. at the office of oewd, office of economic and workforce development, if you need to speak to somebody, you can find people who can help you navigate any of the available programs and resources. >> a lot of blind optimism has kept us afloat, you know, and there's been a lot of reason for despair, but this is what

keeps me in the business, and this is what keeps me fighting, you know, and continuing to advocate, is that we need this and this is part of our life's blood as much as oxygen and food is. don't lose heart. look at there for all the various grants that are available to you. some of them might be very slow to unrao, and it might seem like too -- unroll, and it might seem like it's too late, but people are going to fight to keep their beloved venues open, and as a band, you're going to be okay. [♪♪♪]

>> roughly five years, i was working as a high school teacher, and i decided to take my students on a surfing field trip.

the light bulb went off in my head, and i realized i could do much more for my students taking them surfing than i could as their classroom teacher, and that is when the idea for the city surf project was born. >> working with kids in the ocean that aren't familiar with this space is really special because you're dealing with a lot of fear and apprehension but at the same time, a lot of excitement. >> when i first did it, i was, like, really scared, but then, i did it again, and i liked it. >> we'll get a group of kids who have just never been to the beach, are terrified of the

idea, who don't like the beach. it's too cold out, and it's those kid that are impossible to get back out of the water at the end of the day. >> over the last few years, i think we've had at least 40 of our students participate in the city surf project. >> surfing helped me with, like, how to swim. >> we've start off with about two to four sessions in the pool before actually going out and surfing. >> swimming at the pool just helps us with, like, being, like, comfortable in the water and being calm and not being all -- not being anxious. >> so when we started the city surf project, one of the things we did was to say hey, this is the way to earn your p.e. credits. just getting kids to go try it was one of our initial challenges for the first year

or two. but now that we've been doing it three or four years, we have a group of kids that's consistent, and the word has spread, that it's super fun, that you learn about the ocean. >> starting in the morning, you know, i get the vehicles ready, and then, i get all the gear together, and then, i drive and go get the kids, and we take them to a local beach. >> we usually go to linda mar, and then occasionally ocean beach. we once did a special trip. we were in capitola last year, and it was really fun. >> we get in a circle and group stretch, and we talk about specific safety for the day, and then, we go down to the water. >> once we go to the beach, i don't want to go home. i can't change my circumstances at home, but i can change the way i approach them. >> our program has definitely

been a way for our students to find community and build friends. >> i don't really talk to friends, so i guess when i started doing city surf, i started to, like, get to know people more than i did before, and people that i didn't think i'd like, like, ended up being my best friends. >> it's a group sport the way we do it, and with, like, close camaraderie, but everybody's doing it for themselves. >> it's great, surfing around, finding new people and making new friendships with people throughout surfing. >> it can be highly developmental for students to have this time where they can learn a lot about themselves while negotiating the waves. >> i feel significantly, like, calmer. it definitely helps if i'm, like, feeling really stressed or, like, feeling really anxious about surfing, and i go surfing, and then, i just feel,

like, i'm going to be okay. >> it gives them resiliency skills and helps them build self-confidence. and with that, they can use that in other parts of their lives. >> i went to bring my family to the beach and tell them what i did. >> i saw kids open up in the ocean, and i got to see them connect with other students, and i got to see them fail, you know, and get up and get back on the board and experience success, and really enjoy themselves and make a connection to nature at the same time. >> for some kids that are, like, resistant to, like, being in a mentorship program like this, it's they want to surf, and then later, they'll find out that they've, like, made this community connection.

>> i think they provided level playing fields for kids to be themselves in an open environment. >> for kids to feel like i can go for it and take a chance that i might not have been willing to do on my own is really special. >> we go on 150 surf outings a year. that's year-round programming. we've seen a tremendous amount of youth face their fears through surfing, and that has translated to growth in other facets of their lives. >> i just think the biggest thing is, like, that they feel like that they have something that is really cool, that they're engaged in, and that we, like, care about them and how they're doing, like, in general. >> what i like best is they really care about me, like, i'm not alone, and i have a group of people that i can go to, and, also, surfing is fun.

>> we're creating surfers, and we're changing the face of surfing. >> the feeling is definitely akin to being on a roller coaster. it's definitely faster than i think you expect it to be, but it's definitely fun. >> it leaves you feeling really, really positive about what that kid's going to go out and do. >> i think it's really magical almost. at least it was for me. >> it was really exciting when i caught my first wave. >> i felt like i was, like -- it was, like, magical, really. >> when they catch that first wave, and their first lights up, you know -- their face lights up, you know you have them hooked. >> i was on top of the world. it's amazing. i felt like i was on top of the world even though i was probably going two miles an hour. it was, like, the scariest thing i'd ever done, and i

think it was when i got hooked >> this is a huge catalyst for change. >> it will be over 530,000 gross square feet plus two levels of basement. >> now the departments are across so many locations it is hard for them to work together and collaborate and hard for the

customers to figure out the different locations and hours of operation. >> one of the main drivers is a one stopper mitt center for -- permit center. >> special events. we are a one stop shop for those three things. >> this has many different uses throughout if years. >> in 1940s it was coca-cola and the flagship as part of the construction project we are retaining the clock tower. the permit center is little working closely with the digital services team on how can we modernize and move away from the paper we use right now to move to a more digital world. >> the digital services team was created in 2017. it is 2.5 years. our job is to make it possible to get things done with the city online. >> one of the reasons permitting is so difficult in this city and

county is really about the scale. we have 58 different department in the city and 18 of them involve permitting. >> we are expecting the residents to understand how the departments are structured to navigate through the permitting processes. it is difficult and we have heard that from many people we interviewed. our goal is you don't have to know the department. you are dealing with the city. >> now if you are trying to get construction or special events permit you might go to 13 locations to get the permit. here we are taking 13 locations into one floor of one location which is a huge improvement for the customer and staff trying to work together to make it easy to comply with the rules. >> there are more than 300 permitting processes in the city. there is a huge to do list that we are possessing digital.

the first project is allowing people to apply online for the a.d.u. it is an accessory dwelling unit, away for people to add extra living space to their home, to convert a garage or add something to the back of the house. it is a very complicated permit. you have to speak to different departments to get it approved. we are trying to consolidate to one easy to due process. some of the next ones are windows and roofing. those are high volume permits. they are simple to issue. another one is restaurant permitting. while the overall volume is lower it is long and complicated business process. people struggle to open restaurants because the permitting process is hard to navigate. >> the city is going to roll out a digital curing system one that is being tested.

>> when people arrive they canshay what they are here to. it helps them workout which cue they neat to be in. if they rant to run anker rapid she can do that. we say you are next in line make sure you are back ready for your appointment. >> we want it all-in-one location across the many departments involved. it is clear where customers go to play. >> on june 5, 2019 the ceremony was held to celebrate the placement of the last beam on top of the structures. six months later construction is complete. >> we will be moving next summer. >> the flu building -- the new building will be building. it was designed with light in mind. employees will appreciate these amenities. >> solar panels on the roof, electric vehicle chargers in the

basement levels, benefiting from gray watery use and secured bicycle parking for 300 bicycles. when you are on the higher floors of the building you might catch the tip of the golden gate bridge on a clear day and good view of soma. >> it is so exciting for the team. it is a fiscal manifestation what we are trying to do. it is allowing the different departments to come together to issue permits to the residents. we hope people can digitally come to one website for permits. we are trying to make it digital so when they come into the center they have a high-quality interaction with experts to

guide then rather than filling in forms. they will have good conversations with our staff. - >> tenderloin is unique ff. - neighborhood where geographically place in downtown san francisco and on every street corner have liquor store in the corner it stores pretty much every single block has a liquor store but there are impoverishes grocery stores i'm the co-coordinated of the healthy corner store collaboration close to 35 hundred residents 4 thousand are

children the medium is about $23,000 a year so a low income neighborhood many new immigrants and many people on fixed incomes residents have it travel outside of their neighborhood to assess fruits and vegetables it can be come senator for seniors and hard to travel get on a bus to get an apple or a pear or like tomatoes to fit into their meals my my name is ryan the co-coordinate for the tenderloin healthy store he coalition we work in the neighborhood trying to support small businesses and improving access to healthy produce in the tenderloin that

is one of the most neighborhoods that didn't have access to a full service grocery store and we california together out of the meeting held in 2012 through the major development center the survey with the corners stores many stores do have access and some are bad quality and an overwhelming support from community members wanting to utilities the service spas we decided to work with the small businesses as their role within the community and bringing more fresh produce produce cerebrothe neighborhood their compassionate about creating a healthy environment when we get into the work they rise up to leadership. >> the different stores and assessment and trying to get them to understand the value of

having healthy foods at a reasonable price you can offer people fruits and vegetables and healthy produce they can't afford it not going to be able to allow it so that's why i want to get involved and we just make sure that there are alternatives to people can come into a store and not just see cookies and candies and potting chips and that kind of thing hi, i'm cindy the director of the a preif you believe program it is so important about healthy retail in the low income community is how it brings that health and hope to the communities i worked in the tenderloin for 20 years the difference you walk out the door and there is a bright new list of fresh fruits

and vegetables some place you know is safe and welcoming it makes. >> huge difference to the whole environment of the community what so important about retail environments in those neighborhoods it that sense of dignity and community safe way. >> this is why it is important for the neighborhood we have families that needs healthy have a lot of families that live up here most of them fruits and vegetables so that's good as far been doing good. >> now that i had this this is really great for me, i, go and get fresh fruits and vegetables

it is healthy being a diabetic you're not supposed to get carbons but getting extra food a all carbons not eating a lot of vegetables was bringing up my whether or not pressure once i got on the program everybody o everything i lost weight and my blood pressure came down helped in so many different ways the most important piece to me when we start seeing the business owners engagement and their participation in the program but how proud to speak that is the most moving piece of this program yes economic and social benefits and so forth but

the personal pride business owners talk about in the program is interesting and regarding starting to understand how they're part of the larger fabric of the community and this is just not the corner store they have influence over their community. >> it is an owner of this in the department of interior i see the great impact usually that is like people having especially with a small family think liquor store sells alcohol traditional alcohol but when they see this their vision is changed it is a small grocery store for them so they more options not just beer and wine but healthy options

good for the business and good for the community i wish to have more . >> president cohen: you'd like to call this meeting to order. mr. clerk, please call the roll. >> clerk: [roll call] president cohen, you have a