tv Board of Education SFGTV August 12, 2021 6:00am-12:01pm PDT
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preterm babies, so that was a very negative effect of covid-19. the benefits of these vaccines far outweigh the bad sides, but we all know someone who got the shot and got sicker than they thought, or my brother got the shot and had an asthma attack a week or two weeks later, and it was, like, did that cause my asthma? no. >> thank you for that. and the last question from jessica? >> the last question is [inaudible] should they then
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test again. >> so, again, this is this is a situation where they're fully vaccinated and tested positive, basically, you need to isolate for the ten days until -- until you don't have symptoms, assuming you don't have any symptoms after ten days, and there's no further recommendation to get retested again, and if you do get symptoms similar to covid-19 after that again, the best thing to do is to talk directly to your health care provider. but in general, there's no reason to get tested after the ten days after -- from the day of your positive test. so the most important thing is if you do test positive, to isolate, to wear the mask, and
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for goodness sake, if you have friends and family that haven't been vaccinated yet, get them vaccinated -- support them getting vaccinated, i should say. >> all right. thank you so much to jessica and fini for all of your work in the community, as you've heard many similar questions that they all have that they've been fielding in the community, so thank you, fini and jessica. so now, i'm going to get to some of the questions that you've put in the chat. i don't think i'm going to be able to get to one of them, but i'm going to try to combine similar subjects. one thing that has been asked is will the city shutdown again, and will the city take any further efforts to reduce transmission, such as closing restaurants, bars, gyms, or any other place with high risk settings, and do we anticipate
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going back to the tiered shutdown? so all of these questions have to do with a shutdown? >> so we have no plans to quote, unquote, shutdown the city again. i think we are going to mitigate the virus in ways that allow us to resume the activities that we missed so much and love while also trying to slow the spread of the virus and prevent the most serious consequences, hospitalizations and, of course, death. so vaccines are key to this. as i said multiple times here today already, they are key along with people wearing masks indoors. they are not as effective as vaccines, but they are another tool that works to slow the spread of the virus. the other thing that we're doing is mandating vaccines in
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certain settings, including in health care settings, and i think as people know, the city as a whole, the city is requiring employees across departments to become vaccinated, so there is effort to make the vaccine as available as possible. we will bring the vaccine to you. in your house, if you have five or more people ready to get vaccinated, we can make that happen. and the other thing is now that we've made it as easy for people to get vaccinated, we support efforts for people not getting vaccinated.
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we support requirements for vaccine. a lot of businesses are requiring to show proof of vaccine status. >> we're seeing a lot of questions in the chat about boosters and booster shots, so i'm just going to combine some of the questions here. what are the cost-benefit analysis to get a booster shot if they're ready to get vaccinated? how effective is the pfizer and
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moderna vaccine against the variant, and what's the criteria if someone wants to get a supplemental shot? they've read the news about sfdph affiliated facilities accommodating those requests, and do you recommend someone getting a shot from two different companies, so if you got a moderna, getting a shot from pfizer or johnson & johnson. so many questions, similar topics. what are your thoughts about booster shots? >> i'm trying to hold all those topics. so a couple of things. starting with one of the questions that was in the middle there was, you know,
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about the second shot, whether it's from pfizer or moderna. it's just really, really important to get that second shot. there is no recommendation from any major health care body in the united states, including the c.d.c. and the f.d.a., that people get boosters. i know there's a lot of questions, a lot of discussions about this. right now, we only need to focus on the support of people who haven't gotten vaccines to get the shot. that one shot is j&j or two shots of the moderna or pfizer vaccine. those are the current guidelines, and the health department has not changed its policy with regard to that. now there's a lot of data --
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there's actually some data just out today of moderna. there's a lot of discussion around pfizer with booster shots, which would be additional shots based on evidence that people may need them. there are some countries that are exploring or planning to start booster shots in certain populations. that is not happening in the united states right now. we don't know yet. it's entirely possible that booster shots would be recommended, but again, in the united states, that's not the case. now there has been some publicity about a comment that the health department made, which is giving -- if people who receive the johnson & johnson vaccine, which is a good vaccine, request an additional shot with a pfizer or moderna vaccine, that we
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will accommodate that, but it hasn't been a change in our policy. but if people have talked to their health care provider and say, you know, i'd really like to have an mrna shot in addition to the johnson & johnson shot that i got, we will accommodate that, but we are accommodating that because we heard from communities that people were concerned that they were requesting it. we wanted to be responsive, and we wanted to accommodate what people were asking for in the -- in that regard. but it's not a change in policy, we're not recommending it, and we're not promoting it as a way for people to become more protected. >> okay. i know that's super helpful, just given all the questions rolling around that and the news coverage. question, especially with delta and other variants. you recommend upgraded
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respiratory protection. for example, n-95 masks for unvaccinated individuals in indoor settings, so again, this is unvaccinated individuals in indoor settings. >> yeah, what i recommended for all individuals in indoor setting is to get vaccinated. we know the masks work, but they don't work as well as the vaccines. in an indoor setting, i mean, the more we know about them, really, it's both about getting that vaccine with delta here and, you know, if many people can't tolerate wearing an n-95 mask inside, so it's better to wear a surgical mask than certainly no mask at all. but i just -- i know that with the masking, the indoor masking
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mandate coming back in, that that -- that we focus our attention on masks, but i also don't want to lose sight of the fact that the vaccines are so much -- so important, so protective, and easy to get right now, so both the mask and vaccine are key to us getting out of this fourth surge. >> okay. great. we have some questions about the new variant, the lambda variant. what do you know about the lambda variant in san francisco, and there's some questions that the lambda and epsilon variants might be
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vaccine resistant? >> yeah, we're working with scientists and researchers as much as we can to be responsive to further variants emerging. and i think one of the key issues that we've had across the country, in the region, and, as well, is in -- in san francisco is scaling up our ability to genotype the virus. and thankfully, at ucsf, we have a lab that's leading the state in terms of genotyping. it's plausible that we'll see other variants emerge because we don't have high vaccine rates across the country, and we'll have to wait and see if these variants cause more
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illness or if they spread or are more crippling than delta. but i go back to -- i sound like a broken record -- the way to keep these variants from spreading is to get vaccinated so the variants slow down. the less people the virus is able to infect, the more the virus slows down, and the less people we infect. the way to support all of this is to support all people getting vaccinated. >> all right. and we've gotten questions about have we seen any differences in outcomes, for example, hospitalizations, for
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people who have received different brands of vaccine? >> yeah. locally, i'm not aware of any differences in regard to that. >> okay. and i know we've had a series of town halls focused on youth and children in schools, but we do have a couple questions here in terms of the delta variant specifically and its impact and everything on specifically three to five year olds. is it specifically safe to allow three to five-year-old children to not wear a mask in child care outdoors? what about the delta variant in pediatric outcomes? any sort of thought on the risk
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of kids under 12, so questions on covid and how the delta variant is affecting children? >> so this has come up in questions from our clinical experts, and i think it's really important to emphasize right now that the public health officers, pediatricians, feel that it's incredibly important that we return our kids to in-person learning, and that this is thought that we can do it safely, we can do it safely, and it's so important for the health and wellness of our kids, our families, and our community. the best way that we can ensure that is for family members who are eligible for vaccines to get vaccinated. that can protect the children, and that can protect the school. and we have local data that supports that, so in the last
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18 months, of the children who are found to test positive for covid-19 in the schools, all those cases were tracked back to the family, so i just think it's important for us to all do our part to support that. i was just talking to a number of infectious disease experts at ucsf. you may have read the report from louisiana about children's hospitals being filled with children with respiratory illness. that's obviously a concern, and there's much more covid there, much more than we have locally. there's a much lower vaccination rate, somewhere in the range of 35%, compared to
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our 75% overall, and there's no confirmation that delta causes more disease among children. right now, the consensus is that children are expect -- you know, even if children get covid-19, that they will experience milder symptoms compared to adults. but again, as we've seen during these last 18 months, this is an evolving field and we're watching it very carefully. but we want to support schools opening for in-person learning as much as possible. >> okay. thank you. we got a couple of questions about rapid testing and testing as soon as possible, so i don't know if you want to share anything about rapid tests? >> well, i think if people want to avail themselves of rapid testing, that's something we didn't have before, so i
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encourage them to use it. but i'd say to very carefully follow the instructions, and if you have questions, that you consult your health care provider, so just two important caveats to the use of home test kits, and again, they should not be a substitute for getting vaccinated. getting tested itself doesn't get you vaccinated. you can test as much as you possibly can, and it's not protecting you from the virus, right? so, you know, if you're tested, get the vaccine. >> maybe just a follow-up question on that. if you can describe for the public quickly the difference between the rapid test and what we have traditionally had out there, where test results are sent to labs? >> yeah. well, i mean, i think there are a lot of different rapid tests out there, but basically, the rapid test allows you to get the results, you know, in as
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short a time as 15 minutes, and those are being used in many settings across the city and at d.p.h. we're using them at our shelters right now and certainly at our testing sites so you get that result very quickly. if you -- the traditional -- the traditional test that we used earlier, our tests that take a longer time to conduct, and they can take a turnaround from anywhere from 24 to 72 hours. >> we had a lot of questions about the city shutting down again, but also specific events. we were planning for events to be held outdoors but with a lot of people. should we still hold them? should we cancel them? is there going to be a
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recommendation that people reduce participating in social gatherings indoors or suspend large gatherings? any advice you have on small outdoor private gatherings, so in general, i think the questions are along the lines i think we've talked about safety in covid areas on the spectrum, if you could share that. >> yeah, it is on a spectrum. we know that being outdoors helps prevent the transmission of the virus, so that's key, as well, and the more people that you're engaging with, particularly inside, the greater the risk of transmission, especially if there are adults there who have not been fully vaccinated.
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the other piece is we know that people who are older, particularly 65 and older, people who have comorbid conditions are more likely to suffer from negative consequences from this virus, so i think we just all need to think through that and do our own risk assessment to make a determination about what we're comfortable doing. there's a big difference between an indoor gathering of 5,000 people whose vaccine status hasn't been checked versus an outdoor gathering of 25 people who are fully vaccinated or, you know, people eating inside either in a group -- in a group setting, in a restaurant -- if they're vaccinated, and the staff are fully vaccinated, there's a big difference in that risk compared to people that are not
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vaccinated in that setting. so i think it's just really being attentive to your own risk, the risk of the people that you love and who are around you, and making the determination about what you're comfortable doing while supporting getting vaccines and while wearing those masks indoors. >> and so along those lines, you know, especially given the high vaccination rate of our population, do you any insight of where you're seeing outbreaks in san francisco at least? i think you mentioned earlier, but any specific places or demographics or clusters? >> well yeah, i think we're seeing clusters in the neighborhood map -- on the neighborhood map that i showed. we're also seeing larger numbers the people in the 25 to 35-year-old age group who are not vaccinated. that's our age group in san francisco that is least likely to be vaccinated, so if any of
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you are 25 to 35 or no 25 to 35 year olds who aren't vaccinated yet, please support them in getting vaccinated as quickly as possible. along those lines, we are seeing, when we're asking people their activities, we're seeing more outbreaks in indoor settings, including people who are frequenting bars, so that's another place where we're seeing more people. it's basically younger people -- there's a higher risk for younger people, 25 to 35 year olds, who have not been vaccinated, who are going indoors into crowded settings where i think mask wearing is lower than it needs to be at
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this time. >> all right. well, i know we received many questions, and we apologize we couldn't get to all of them, but we will try to through our messages out to the public and other venues, as well, try to get as many questions addressed in those ways. our website, of information, as well. i will leave it with one last question. many people are wondering how we can live with this virus in the long run like with the flu, so what are your thoughts on that? >> well, it's hard to project into the future, but we have
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the tools that work. there's a question, if you get the vaccine, will it work against mutations? the vaccine is key to keeping us from spreading the virus and from keeping us out of more serious variants, so i just want to emphasize that. i think in terms of where we'll be in the future, hopefully, we'll get more people vaccinated. the masking, indoor masking, will help slow the spread of this surge, and then, we'll have to see where we are in terms of the science around further vaccines and determine, you know, if and when additional shots are necessary. but i think right now, the answer -- the most important thing that we know now is that these vaccines are going to be key and that the more people we get vaccinated now, the more we
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will be able to mitigate and -- and control the spread of this virus in our community and prevent people from dying. these are great medicines, and the vaccines are our way out. >> all right. thank you, dr. colfax. thank you to everyone who participated in this event today -- >> and if i could just say one more thing. you know, this has been a long 18 months, and i've said a lot about the virus. there's been a toll on our mental health, our ability to care for ourselves and our families, and in addition to getting the vaccine, please make sure that you're taking care of yourself and your families in the ways that are so important for yourself to be
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resilient during what is a very challenging time. sorry to cut in, katy, but i wanted to say that, and thanks, everyone. >> oh, no, thank you to you, dr. colfax, and thank you to everyone who participated and thank you to sfgovtv, as well. if you want to view this again, it'll be available on sfgovtvs youtube channel. so thanks, everyone, and have a wonderful day. all right everyone.
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hi, i'm san francisco mayor london breed and i want to thank you all for joining us today. i want to give a shout out to the folks vax to max. i want to thank you for hanging out and trying to get people to vaccinate because i know you want to go back to school quickly. i don't know about you, but when i was a kid, i wasn't pushing to go back to school on any given day and clearly our children need to be back in school. and part of making sure they're back in school, making sure they're safe. making sure our communities are safe is important for us to do our part and this is how everyone can do their part is at least get vaccinated. in san francisco, about 84% of san franciscans have received at least their first dose of the vaccine, but sadly, with the african american community, that's about 64%. with the latino community, it's at about 74%. and we need to make sure that
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those communities are getting the vaccine because what we're seeing with almost 100 people now in the hospital that most of those folks are african american and latino. and so it's important to us because also, the other issue is that most of the people who are in the hospital, i think dr. colfax has the specifics, but they've not been vaccinated. so even if, you know, i as a vaccinated person gets a vaccine, if i get the and the fact is that person can get sick and end up in the hospital and that person can potentially day. this really is a matter of life or death. i understand people have concerns. and i understand that people are frustrated with the mask mandates and all the other requirements. i get it. this has been tough and it's
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been a long time, but as i have said time and time again just because we are tired of the vaccine -- i mean, just because we are tired of covid-19, just because we are tired of all the rules and regulations and being told what to do, just because we are sick of it, doesn't mean it's sick of us. it's not gone because we want it to be gone. so what this means is we have to do even more and as a result, we have decided to take our case to the public in a different way. if you have at least five to twelve people who want to be vaccinated, we will bring our doctors and nurses and equipment and other resources to you. all you have to do is go sf.gov/vaxtoyou. so we'll provide you all with that information. it's important that we make it
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as easy as possible. there are a number of pop-up locations in the mission. we are trying to make this as easy as possible. and we know and vaccines specifically in the african american community. the fact is we're at a different time where we really need to focus on saving lives. we've not even had six hundred deaths even in one of the densest cities in the last 15 months because of this virus. if we go at the rate that we're going, we expect within a couple of weeks according to dr. colfax to lose at least 300 people. that's why we've had to put
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together the appropriate vaccine outreach team as well as mandatory mask indoors even for those who are vaccinated. the last thing we need that's the easiest thing you could do to support one another. we should be so proud. san francisco's a dense city and we had one of the lowest death rates. we all came together in the beginning of this pandemic. we took care of our neighbors. we went we got that last hurdle
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l, that last stretch. it's like the nineth inning and we just need one more hit out the ball park. and if we all just roll up our sleeves and start to get vaccinated even though we have concerns, we're doing it for our fellow san franciscans. and, so with that, i want to turn it over to dr. grant colfax. >> good afternoon everybody and thank you, mayor breed for your ongoing leadership during this pandemic. i want to thank chiba piano lounge for sponsoring this. and, of course, the amazing dph team, the mobile team led by dr. mary mercer.
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just remarkable work. we have 77% of eligible san franciscans now fully vaccinated in our city. so this is a remarkable achievement and, i think while the next few weeks will be very challenging and we're seeing covid-19 increase dramatically in our city, it's very important to remember that hundreds if not thousands of lives have been saved. we're in a much better place than during the fall and winter surge because people are vaccinated. because these vaccines work. because they keep you out of the hospital. because they are saving lives as we speak. if you are not vaccinated in san francisco. this is not a good time to be vaccinated. the delta variant is here. it accounts for more than 90% of our cases now. and it is a highly transmissible and there's emerging evidence that it's more likely that you would end up in the hospital compared to the virus we were dealing with just a few months ago.
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this is covid on steroids. the difference now between being vaccinated and not getting vax if you do get covid-19, it could be -- if you're vaccinated versus not vaccinated, it could be the difference between spending a few days in your bed at home, versus spending a few weeks in an i.c.u. bed. very important that people get vaccinated. we know that the health officers across the region, recently instituted an indoormandate effective today. that is a temporary measure to decrease the spread of the virus. we were at just twelve cases of covid-19 just a few weeks ago in late may and early june. now we're over 200 a day. we need to continue to slow the spread. do our part. we will bring the vaccine it to you. the mayor just announced this.
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we're doing everything we can. we will work with you. we will get the team there, let's max the vax across the city. 77% more to go. we're doing everything we can to get people vaccinated. the vaccines continue our way out. these next few weeks are going to be challenging. the best protection is the vaccine, the masking, and telling your friends, your family members, your community members get vaccinated today. thank you. >> any questions about the vaccine related stuff? >> if i had told me in my family, would you come to my house? >> yes. we can do that and we've already been doing that. so people can sign up and we will be there. >> can people come up and say, hey, i live outside san francisco, it's going to take a long time for me to make an
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appointment. >> we're really focusing on san francisco's residents at this point to try to get those numbers up and we're coordinating with other counties. so i think if people have other questions, we can put them in touch with the local health department to make sure they get vaccinated as well. >> i'm wondering if you can talk about zuckerberg sf general and the decisions of the supplemental costs of those getting johnson and johnson shots. [inaudible] mrna pfizer. >> so i just want to make it really clear, we have not changed our policy as a health department and as a city with regard to following cdc guidelines for administering vaccines. if people have received a johnson and johnson and are requesting a second shot, we will accommodate them, but our policy has not changed nor has it changed at zuckerberg
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general hospital. >> have there been studies on that? >> yes. so in consultation with infectious disease experts, the decision was made again. if people are requesting a second shot after johnson and johnson, we will accommodate that, be but we're not changing our policy at this point. >> any indication it does improve the efficacy of the johnson and johnson shot? >> i think the important thing is right now we don't have conclusive data on additional shots beyond what the cdc is recommending. but, again, in consultation with infectious disease experts, we do think this is safe and accommodate people if they so request. >> break through cases, are they mostly people who have been vaccinated with johnson and johnson or why johnson and johnson? >> so i think really the key point is that break through cases remain relatively rare compared to people who are not vaccinated. that's really important. all these vaccines are incredibly effective in terms
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of reducing the risk of hospitalization. and, again, we're continuing to follow cdc guidelines whether they are the mrna or johnson and johnson vaccines. accommodating people and are requesting an additional shot. but the break through infections, i think really, i understand the focus on break through infections here, but i think it really misses the big picture. the key reason we did the indoor mask mandate and so forth is because we need to get more people quickly vaccinated as soon as possible. that includes the johnson and johnson mrna vaccine. we will follow cdc recommendations going forward. >> are you still administering the j&j? >> absolutely. it's a good vaccine. and we will continue to administer it. we have lots of vaccines available. if people want the mrna vaccine, we will do that. we have the menu and it's
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available. >> what would you say to people who are tired of wearing masks and being [inaudible] ? >> well, i'm disappointed that the health office, i'm sorry that we had to go to indoor masking as well. it's the right thing to do in terms of where we are right now. especially, our projections are showing cases are going to continue to increase through this month and early september, so we really need to slow down the transmission. what i would say if you're tired of wearing a mask, if you're not vaccinated, for god's sake get vaccinated and get your family and friends vaccinated. >> had is there an now that this delta variant is surging and it is so much more contagious, a lot of those sites, they've shut down? >> so we're continuing to work with our other health partners across the city to ensure there's adequate testing for people. d.p.h. has been doing over 40% of the tests that have been
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administered. so just to emphasize that piece working with kaiser and c.p.m.c. but we're exploring a number of possibles. we know that compared to where we were, there's a lot more home testing available. so we're encouraging people to use that and talking to our partners about expanding testing options in the future. and at the health department, our testing focus remains in our clinics for the skilled nursing facilities and shelters. those are really key areas where we're going to continue to support testing. >> a lot of people are excited to get an appointment online. what would you say in terms of wait times and is the city considering those mask mandates [inaudible] ? >> so, again, we're looking at options to potentially expand testing and encouraging our other partners, kaiser to expand testing and we have drop-in testing as well. we have pop-up testing where
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covid-19 is most prevalent. so if those drop-in sites where people can literally walk in, you can still get tested on a drop-in basis. >> roughly 5,000 tests are being done a day. where do you expect to see that number -- where do you want to see that number? >> yeah. i think testing is obviously an ongoing key issue for us to support cross the city. i don't want testing to distract us from the need to get fully vaccinated. i'm hoping we can mitigate some of the wait times. i expect those to unfortunately continue to go up. you know, we're down to fewer than 2,000 tests a day, now we're at 5,000. if we expand up to 9,000 a day, we're going to continue the need to expand. and/or to use those home
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testing kits and use the kaiser ucsf and other health care systems in addition to look at what the health department has available. >> the city is spending more resources on these mobile vaccination sites. >> well, the vaccine because it's more complex, we will have always spent more resources because testing is a little bit easier. we are going to continue to look at the ability to expand. we can do both things at the same time. but we're at a different stature now. so we need to do both things well at the same time. >> can you expect restrictions here in the city and if businesses were to require that you be vaccinated in order to enter that business, would the city approve that? >> yeah. we're very supportive of businesses and other entities requiring proof of vaccination for people to enter the premises.
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>> and, now, new york city is doing that. they're talking about they want restaurants and venues and fitness centers proof of vaccination. at least is the city considering taking that step? >> we're exploring that. again, right now, we've seen that a number of bars and restaurants and other entities are doing that and we're very supportive of that and encouraging people to take advantage of that policy with regard to showing proof of vaccination at these entities. >> one more question. what goes into deciding if san francisco wants vaccine mandates like new york city. like why not yet? >> well, i just think we're exploring the pieces right now. again, i think that the good news is that san francisco businesses were one of the first in the country as far as i know to adopt this voluntarily. and i think it's really trying to determine, you know, in working with various entities is there a need to implement
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policies similar to new york's or is this going to happen more on the basis of what's being driven in the community. i think we saw that in other situations with the pandemic as well is people, communities are adapting the practices that they know slow the transmission. so we're exploring that. the thank you. >> what do you say about the people that are afraid about the side effects of the vaccine and that's why they don't want to take it? >> yeah. we know and there have been millions of people in the united states these vaccines are incredible safe. look who's dying of covid-19 right now, it's people who are unvaccinated. these vaccines work, they're safe and effective. thank you. so i want to thank ned and israel from chiba lounge for
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hosting us today. are there any other questions related to the vaccine? all right. any other questions in general? >> [inaudible] >> well, what i want to start by saying is the stipulation that i signed with the ethics commission after having numerous discussions, i feel is fair, we worked out an agreement with the staff to address some of the challenges that we are listed in the stipulation and in particular, there were mistakes made. i take full responsibility for those mistakes and i've learned a lot since becoming mayor and being in office and as i said in my statement, i made it clear that at no time have any of the things related to this stipulation had any impact on the decisions that i've made as mayor. and, my hope is that over time,
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i've been able to prove that and overtime, moving forward, i'll be able to continue to approve that. >> [inaudible] >> well, i hope that the work that i've done and addressing one of the most challenging times in our city's history which is not directly related to the challenges that exist in the stipulation. i would hope that my record and what i've done over the past couple of years will make a difference as well as the work that i'm -- that i do moving forward. i mean, it's difficult because, you know, people may look at this, of course, and feel a certain kind of way. i can't completely control that. i can only make sure that i do exactly what a leader in this city should do. when you make a mistake. you step up, you take responsibility for your action. you put it all out there and you hope that people will look at it and realize that, you know, you're human just like anybody else and the goal is to make sure that i completely
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make it clear to the public that at no time in any of these, you know, challenges that existed that, you know, i allowed any of this to impact the decisions that i've made in running the city and it's going to take some time to demonstrate and ensure the public that my goal is to lead this city, to continue to do my job and at no time have i ever allowed any of these issues to interfere with the decisions that i make in this office and i will continue to do that. >> did you believe you were doing anything wrong at the time [inaudible] the letter heads regarding the letter for your brother or [inaudible] and do you recognize that those things --? >> at the time that i did them, no i did not. >> and now? >> and, now i do understand that they are a problem and i will be doing things differently. for example, the event, the
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pride parade in san francisco, i've always had a float during the pride parade, it's just the way that it was covered during this time period was different that how i had covered it before and so i realize that that was problematic even though this is -- the pride parade is not a campaign event, it's not -- it's a civic occasion. it's a way in which mayor and public elected officials all participate, but i've always had a float and in this particular case, there was a mistake made and so we're correcting that mistake. okay. any more questions? all right. thank you.
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you're watching san francisco rising with chris manors. today's special guest is dr. steven zutnick. >> hello. the show is focused on restarting, rebuilding, and reimagining our city. the director of the therapy center of san francisco and he's a professor in counseling psychology at usf. he's here today to talk to us about resocializing, and returning to the office. welcome to the show. >>. >> thanks, chris. good to be back. >> as we re-open, people are having different reactions. some are embracing the recent shifts while others are having a hard time readjusting. >> yes. i think it's an excellent
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question. my basic bias on this i think to give you a general overview is we ought to be following cdc suggestions and requirements, what they say, because that's where a lot of the things come. should i wear a mask. should i not wear a mask. my answer is, yes, absolutely. i think we should wear a mask. i think we should social distance. it not only makes an impact on covid, it makes an impact on other diseases as well. as you and i were chatting, the deaths from flu usually average 30,000 a year. we've had 2,500 deaths from the flu so far this year, but at the very least, you need to be vaccinated. >> going back to the office is also an issue. there are some people are thrilled returning to work, others are nervous about it and
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there's a group of people who've been working onsite all along. let's start with those who are worried about returning to the office. what can be done to relieve their concerns? >> i think identifying a cohort of colleagues, fellow workers who you can just talk to and share experiences with. you know, when you look at the advantages of groups, the major one is when we sit and talk to other people, we suddenly discover, oh, this isn't just me, i'm not some strange guy here. so everybody else i'm talking to is worried about the same thing. i think that will raise awareness among people. to say, oh, i don't know, what are we going to do? do we have fresh air in here? can we open some windows? does the boss care if i wear a mask? >> how about those who've been going to work all along. possibly the most traumatized. how would you talk to them about managing the possible
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stress and resentment they may have been feeling. >> the most at-risk population is the essential worker who because they are also one of the lowest paid populations, have taken the biggest hits and the most risks. they're still at high risk. so they're dealing with a lot. they're dealing with depression, anxiety, insomnia quite a bit. and you've got a lot of ptsd by the way one last point on the health care workers. that's the tip of the iceberg. these are also the people who often have the least access to therapy. so we've got all these people out of there who've been in the trenches the entire time, never had a break, suffering a lot of
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trauma, and there are no services available for them. >> lastly, let's talk about management. with varying attitudes towards the lifting of restrictions, there may be some struggles in the work place. how would you advise management to ease the transition? >> management can encourage vaccination or require it. they can keep masks, physical distance, hand washing, all of these things. and hopefully management will be responsive. i think, you know, given the title that the series, this is all new. we're all just moving in to a whole new phase. we haven't begun to see the research that's going to come out of what we've just been through. we've been through a terrible pandemic. there's been a huge toll and i don't think we've seen the tip of the iceberg on the impact. >> do you have any final thoughts to share? >> yeah. i think this pandemic has highlighted a lot of things.
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for me, certainly, is mental health professional and a behavioral scientist. it's clear to me, we need to educate people about science. this is not unknowable to people. the basic of science is constant questioning. when you ask a question in research, you get one answer and about five new questions. things evolve continuously. so, yeah, when the cdc first came out a year and a half ago, they said, no, we don't need masks and then they said oh, we do and then everybody went crazy. oh, look how bad the sciencetists are. that's exactly what science does. we thought we didn't need it. then we discovered it was air born. i think we're seeing we have huge holes in the health care
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system and conversely, i think we're finding with the vaccination, what it means for everyone to have access to health care without worrying about how am i going to pay for it. so i think this is really forcing us to look at everything. it's been a very difficult time. it's going to continue to be a difficult time for people, but i think that's also getting us to look at some really critical issues in health care. >> well, thank you so much for coming on the show dr. zlotnick. well, thanks again. we'll be back with another episode of san francisco rising shortly. for sfgov tv i'm chris manors. thanks for watching. >> candlestick park known also as the stick was an outdoor stadium for sports and entertainment. built between 1958 to 1960, it was located in the bayview
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hunters point where it was home to the san francisco giants and 49ers. the last event held was a concert in late 2014. it was demolished in 2015. mlb team the san francisco giants played at candlestick from 1960-1999. fans came to see players such a willie mays and barry bonds, over 38 seasons in the open ballpark. an upper deck expansion was added in the 1970s. there are two world series played at the stick in 1962 and in 198 9. during the 1989 world series against the oakland as they were shook by an earthquake. candlestick's enclosure had minor damages from the quake but its design saved thousands of lives. nfl team the san francisco 49ers
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played at candlestick from feign 71-2013. it was home to five-time super bowl champion teams and hall of fame players by joe montana, jerry rice and steve jones. in 1982, the game-winning touchdown pass from joe montana to dwight clark was known as "the catch." leading the niners to their first super bowl. the 49ers hosted eight n.f.c. championship games including the 2001 season that ended with a loss to the new york giants. in 201, the last event held at candlestick park was a concert by paul mccartney who played with the beatles in 1966, the stadium's first concert. demolition of the stick began in late 2014 and it was completed in september 2015. the giants had moved to pacific rail park in 2000 while the 49ers moved to santa clara in
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are not presenting. that brings us to item five public comment for items not listed on the agenda. >> thank you. we will now call for public comment for items not listed on the agenda. follow the instructions now. >> at this time we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make comment on items not listed on the agenda. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment p. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. please dial star three if we wish to make public comment.
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>> thank you. is there anyone on the line. >> at this time there is no members of the public on the line wishing to make pub will lick comment. >> item number six, the executive director's report. >> good afternoon. i'm executive director of the port. i'll provide an update on economic recovery and information on a couple of items.
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last week the bay area health officers ordered a new health order to wear face coverings in indoor settings including the workplace. i commend staff for staying safe. i commend our return to office team for continuing to pivot and work to keep all of our employees safe. health directors continue to stress vaccinating as the most important way to prevent against covid symptoms should you become infected. vaccines are our most important
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tool. all bay area health officials are encouraging all 12 and older to get vaccinated. the california department of public health, bay area health officers agree that fully vaccinated people should wear masks while in an indoor space to help reduce setting. i want to commend katie and peter for their exceptional work with our accountants. preliminary estimates show the
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fisherman's wharf. masks will be required onboard the cable cars. ferry ridership have continued to increase. other lines have seen a 50% increase. operators have reduced social distancing requirements and maintained a higher level of cleaning of vessels. a higher vaccinated population will continue to increase rider public ridership. yet another reason to get vaccinated. initial tests landing to the new transit island ferry terminal.
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the giants mission walk development received a lead gold certification under the us green council lead in early july. this certification really demonstrates the commitment to sustainably. parks and open space, pedestrian friendly walkways. thank you to the giants for their commitment to the city and the port. the port will be participating
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in the african american chamber of commerce. port staff will be attending the the event to attract black businesses to the port. at the conference from engineering and contracting with the recreation and parks department on how to search for contract opportunities. a day long youth symposium to expose under served youth to maritime opportunities. this completes my report. >> thank you. wonderful report. we will now open up to public comment.
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>> thank you. at this time we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on the executive director's report. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the line is now open. please press star three if you wish to make public comment. >> at this time there are no members of the public on the phone. >> seeing no callers on the phone. >> thank you. i want to just make a couple
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comments on the report. thank you for the update on the health situation and obviously you all have to be very cautionary. i will add my two cents to help the public support vaccination to help others and themselves and particularly children. we did receive the financial report for the fiscal year end but you didn't reference it in your report. i want to commend staff that we did much better than the budget. we came in about 30 percent higher on the revenue side. a lot came in on the commercial and industrial side. i also wanted to mention that you really did a great job on the expenses as much as you
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could. that helped us to come in a little bit for a very small surplus for the year. that was not something we anticipated. i want to commend staff for that. a lot of our revenue drop was parking. i assume most of that parking revenue is coming from the fact that we did not have visitor it the water front. we had a lot less traffic due to the pandemic. the long term impacts in terms of the reconfiguration as well as the activation that we'll talk about later in our reports
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to how to activate the water front to bring in the revenue. i don't know if you know all the answers because it would be nice to know when the parking can come back stronger. we changed with a quick build as well as activation of the water front. it would be nice to have that parking revenue come back to us. it's really about making the water front more vibrant. >> i'll offer some info for you. we'll have more follow pup. follow-up. the parking is directly linked to covid and the sharp reduction in visitors due to covid.
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i want to note that we had declined in parking before covid. things like ride shares and bike lanes. they were down in the five to seven percent range. this is tied to so many of our businesses that served the public being close dollars during covid. >> absolutely. the major drop in parking revenue as you both just indicated are related to the reduction in visitor and ample traffic overall for property
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along the embark dero. revenue from our parking lot as well as from our meters. the trends that we've been seeing in our parking meters are somewhat hopeful. i do think that revenue is going to recover. the revenue we're seeing from our parking lots have been a little softer. as we see an increase in visitorship, we'll see increase as well. we are seeing an increase in
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things like ride share and lyft. >> continue to have activation through the water including pop up is important to keep people coming down to the water front. we rely upon it and it is not a tremendous cost to maintain parking. it's one of those things we want to maintain. thank you for that report. >> thank you. >> thank you for your report. my only comment was, i wanted to
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say how excited i am that we're doing test are runs. as someone who used to be responsible in maintaining 150 affordable housing. for all of their needs, the children's school activities. i want to lift up and how exciting it is that in 2022 we'll have more public transport to the island and thousands of visitors that live there. thank you for the report. >> thank you.
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>> thank you director. i appreciate your comments on the trial run. commissioner, you were right on point with the parking being down. i want to know what it is in terms of being realistic. only half of the steering build team riders seem to be empty to me. maybe you can say we're looking at where commissioner was going or something maybe three years, you have talked about is a realistic goal f. .>> i would like to recommend
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under new business a new item on this. you're asking the million dollar crystal ball question right now. when travel comes back, we're looking at three types of travel. we're at a point where we can see restaurants and commercial maritime activities. i think we should come back with finance projections. it won't be our typical five year forecast.
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more to come. it's a great item for new business. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you t. thank you.>> thank you everybodr report. we on our road to recovery. that and vaccinations are extremely important to that recovery. i encourage anyone that can do get vaccinated. i want to thank you for managing the budget so well during this
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time. it's a phenomenal thing during this time. hopefully we can keep it up. i want to congratulate the giants on their lead for that project. the san francisco business team. our next item, please. >> item 7a is information progress report for the period of january 31, 2021. the land acknowledgement. it is a resolution.
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acknowledgement. the port has a long standing commitment to racial equity. to advance racial equity city wide across 54 departments. have all departments prepare and commit to a action plan next year. 136 actions including ten portions of the reef. this year the goal for port staff is to implement 30 actions by december 31, 2021. the port commission has urged
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port staff to be tenacious and innovative to ensure that these opportunities include black and brown communities. the port's equity goals shown on this slide to serve as guiding principles for our reef and a key component for the property's strategic plan. a department wide reef implementation, we created infrastructure for capacity, port capacity, and sustainability. >> your slides are not moving at all on our screens. >> thank you. it appears they are moving on
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mine. >> we have them moving on the main area. can it help out, please. the launch with the department wide implementation and sustainability. it's all critical with the overall effectiveness of our internal behaviors. our equity change team which consists of each division to track their divisions progress.
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they are responsible for quarterly reporting which provides insights into their division's progress. the working group plays an integral role. this group's role has been repurposed to best support the implementation of the brief. subject matter experts where staff can bring project, programs to ensure a racial equity is applied to increase outcomes. with a clear role of responsibilities, the port is poised to work collaboratively and approaching work in equity differently. centering equity at the core of
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our decision making. we've been working with our business partner it provide training city wide. the training goal for leadership is to develop a shared understanding that while race is a social construct it has real outcomes. the sequential nature of the work includes staff training. we plan to include this staff wide. the redevelopment and use of the tracker. this tool is designed to provide
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a dashboard of reef work across the organization and be vital to produce internal and external reports to ensure account cannability. evaluation is an important and necessary component. stake holders will participate in a feedback loop in various stages of reef implementation. this process will be iterative to allow for continuous improvement, address challenges to meet objectives and goals. next slide, please. a pi chart reporting the project's progress.
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good afternoon president, vice president, commissioners, and director. i'm human resources director. i'm going to share a few highlights by implementing several of the actions contained in the reef short term actions. the list of short term actions focuses only on eight of the areas. i'm going to highlight four of them for you today. in the area of diverse and equitable ladership, generating and compiling all demographic and gender information. senior leadership in the report
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and other documents. this has been an extremely worthwhile project. the impact of business decisions. in the area of mobility and leadership capabilities assess what staffs needs for advancement and growth opportunities. it provides an opportunity for the employee and their supervisor and their manager for promotional opportunities and the types of training and education they should pursue to obtain their required experience to be competitive.
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more than one third of our short term actions belong to the organizational culture of inclusion and belonging. this area is critically important and requires a all hands on deck approach. cross-reference of employees for implementing the progress of their assigned reef actions. team members learned they are responsible for the port's racial action plan and their commitment to make the port a more equitable workplace. in the areas of boards and
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commissions, the passage of 2020, people serving be registers and u.s. citizens. this requires people to be of legal voting age and a legal resident. serve on local and state boards and opens the door for community interest and neighborhoods and the community of san francisco uncommissioned. >> thank you. i have an echo.
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okay. can you all hear me? good afternoon president brandon, vice president, commissioners and director. as previously introduced i'm a contracting and equity specialist. i'm here to assess the reef's racial equity progress and equity chaifng team. change team. seeing these materialize is exciting. the port has decided to go beyond the requirements and work on positions to pivot to the
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framework when they are entrepreneured this year or next. we're actively working to increase the ways in which we share port activities with the public. the importance of the port's ecosystem. the emergency relief program meafd available necessary funds for contractors, subcontractors and tenants. later in the agenda you'll hear
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about the success of the recent rfq. it was issued and resulted in a prequalified list of firms. we should all be lacking forward to the upcoming activations. in our commitment to be an anti racist organization. we recognize the home land with an acknowledgement for the commission's adoption of this resolution. >> thank you. next slide, please.
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the port reef is just one strategy to achieve a more equitable resolution. we recognize it will take a shift in mindset, strategy and preparations. building blocks to help us focus on where there have been inwe inequities. here on this slide, we have are listed some highlights after digsal work staff has under way to advance equity such as our commitment diversify opportunities. this equity work requires a lot
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of heavily lifting. it not only requires human resources but also financial resources. the port has extended one point one pll dollars in implementing reef actions thus far. emergency loan program and trainings. it has come with some challenges. as an organization we must be nimble and be able to adjust. it has allowed us to pivot. because of this our efforts to introduce institutional change
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may be delayed. we lost a budgeted line item to parks and open space. staff are carrying heavier loads to the open sections of the reef. within the contract section of >> council member akinjo: not e human resources. staff recommend modifying this reef action to continue using dpw's jock program and actively engage in both the rfq language and the out reach efforts to
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continue to reach our targeted population. givenlet unusual time of thegive action efforts. we were guaranteed documents to be considered. the implementation of the reef, we are committed to make steadfast progress. our next steps for this equity work include completing implementations by december 31.
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we anticipate receiving an evaluation of our racial equity action plan from the office of racial equity which we'll review and analyze. lastly, we'll wait to receive the phase two framework from the ore which will be externally facing and left for us to corporate into our existing reef. now i'll present to you the action item associated with this presentation. the resolution of the ramaytush as the original inhabitants of
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san francisco. building a culture of inclusivity and specifically centering our racial equity work in alignment of the ore. the ranked acknowledgement was authored and approved by the members of the community. has been adopted by the board of supervisors and other cities boards and commissions. to acknowledge the truth of a land acknowledgement. it will be read at the beginning
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of the meeting. the san francisco port commission acknowledges that we're an unseeded land. as indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions. they have never lost their responsibility of care takers of this place. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional home lands. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the elders and affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. this concludes our preparation
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and welcome any questions you may have at this time. thank you. >> thank you for your presentation. commissioners can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you. now let's open it up to public comment. we'll provide instructions now for anyone from the public who would like to provide public comment.
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>> at this time we'll open up our public comment queue for item 7a. the system will let you know when your line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. i think the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. she is still unable to unmute. i'm checking to see if we do have anyone in the public comment queue.
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>> hello, carl. you're on mute, carl. >> i'm happy to make comments. i want to thank you for this report. as someone who is working in partnership with you on the equity working group. i was happy to report any actions. i want to lift up three things for the public. once again, i want to thank commissioner brandon's leadership on the lbg funds. we're one of the first ones to have lifted that.
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i want to commend you for that work. second of all, i want to appreciate the ramaytush as original land owners. recognizing systemic racism we're doing that. i'm excited by that. i'm looking forward to hearing more about, tiffany, this is really in your wheel house. i'll hold my comments for the pop up later in the agenda. to echo what vice president add
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adams. ferry building to be the most striking. how we look to enable bipoc businesses to come in as a pop up or permanent basis. i'm looking forward to that conversation and thank you everyone for your report. >> thank you. >> thank you for all of your reports. i think it's great. the plan is very well thought out and diligent. i appreciate the progress. i echo commissioner's comments. you've all taken this schemely y
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serious and this is a very serious subject. i would like to sponsor a pot luck in the office. we have a very diverse staff. everybody brought food. i think food helps to increase understanding and curiosity to understand certain cultures. it was interesting to find out what different people could provide. have some fun about this and not take it all so seriously. if you can make it a little more
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fun, maybe sponsor some pot lucks or things where we can get people together so it's not all cerebral. sometimes you talk and find out things about people that you don't know. in times you have misperceptions. the more you talk about your families and back grunds and bad where people came. that's sometimes easier than the left brain. make it more people oriented and fun. >> that is a great recommendation and sounds lake a lot of fun.
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>> great report. thank you very much. >> thank you. vice president adams. >> yes, great report. i think commissioners both said some good things. everybody loves to eat food. that brings everybody together and to talk. i also think that in the middle of this covid, i think we all need something positive to gravitate towards. i don't care who we are, we're all going through this together and it has effected all of us
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together. you have my support. thank you. >> that was a great report. thank you so much. it's amazing how much you guys have accomplished over a short period of time. when making the port a place that everyone wants to come to. everyone wants to work for. everybody just wants to be a part of. i want to thing entire teams for their commitment for this. we are the leader for the city. you guys keep coming up with new ideas and recommendations that
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along with fisherman's wharf along with many many other improvements. the mta is committed to be a responsible partner with the port and stake holders. we've made numerous refinements with work that we've done. it's going to be comprehensive and data driven and include numerous points in time where we come back to you and the stake holders about our finances. we'll be engaged with the port staff along the the way. everything can be undone if it's not working or not working the way we expected.
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safety. safety for people driving, walking, skate boards or scooters. we understand that we need to design and manage to move more people over time. we want to make sure that it truly serves everyone. there will be trade offs along the way. making sure we have a truly balanced approach and a bans that we can all agree to before making commitments to a larger process.
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you can go one forward as well, please. we'll cover just a few points starting with the broadway field test. at the broadway intersection, this has been a focus of our discussion for this area. we're not able to bring the design that's in the bulk of the c dor. corridor. we have to make a decision. we discussed these decisions in detail and really honed in on
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design a and design b as options we would like to test in the field in order to gain data on what serves the public the best. we talked about a flexible center lane design c which for a number of reasons is not worth testing. we're happy to talk about those or answer any questions during the q and a. those two configurations we're proposing to test at broadway with the remainder of the project for a minimum of two months. we want to have the opportunity to make changes in the field. we'll obviously be looking at a number of criteria.
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we'll definitely have some touch points with the port commission as we test data that we've received. that's part of the broader project data. we'll be looking at big data with cell phones and a constant feedback loop with the community. here is is putting a lot of the moving pieces on the same time line. we do believe thaf we could be implementing the project in the initial configuration at broadway and retain in constant contact with our partners at
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nbc. we hope to be wrapping up in early 2022. you can see in purple a number of data collection points. that will include a data collection effort next month before we implement. you'll see a number of touch points with the commission. the project in general and coming back with a second configuration to discuss what is the preferred condition during the build phase and what is the detailed design that was put through earlier. that's just a brief summarization and some more detail to hopefully come back to
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you. >> thanks. a few of the aspects of the project that support businesses and safety. at the ferry building we've been working closely to make sure this new design is supporting the farmers market that operates three days a week. adding space at the new ferry plaza here circled in red. we're appreciative of the fact that they are able to support change. early morning in the market load in and out. as implementation proceeds,
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we'll be joined by volunteers to press upon folks how the changes will occur during market hours. which is really the most intense of the day. how this loading operation is working here. it will inform nimble adjustment as needed to ensure everything is operating as smooth as possible. we're often very appreciative of this commission and the conversations we've had in the last few months to impress upon folks. riding slowly. these signs will impress existing regulation that a lot
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of folks are not aware of. particularly that electric bikes and scooters, we're adding a bike lane that should not impress upon the promenade. we think it will fit right in on the reef. i'll say that the sfmta if any additional regulations are developed. >> about the promenade. i'm not going to go over this in detail. as stated previously changes in the promenade, a separate process by its own process.
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we sent out a notice of certain concerns and whether or not they were met or not. the commission, we sent mta back with some directions and it wasn't clear to me whether they were ever fully answered. i think that our director maybe made those concerns clear. make it be addressed. i'm very pleased that the mta when i told them of my experience of walking out of a new water front restaurant and was almost run over twice out on
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the promenade. that's an important issue for us to look at. i want to make sure maybe little try sickles be allowed on the promenade. there was a variety of concerns that i don't think were fully addressed or if they were addressed were fully answered. i don't know who from mta would have the list of the concerns and just go one by one and see if they were addressed or if
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they weren't addressed because interest were reasons beyond the ability of mta to address them. if that was clear. >> we're going to ask director forward to restate what our questions and concerns were from the past meeting. you can work with director to make sure those were addressed. >> thank you. i'm going to go through all the questions and what answers were provided. i'm go to go yield to director in case there's more feedback to provide. one of the first issued that the commission brought up was concern about the broadway turn.
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actually this was in the last hearing. concern that we were going to go down to only one northbound traffic lane. we took that very seriously and designed a field test to check that turn and the commission's concern p that. around that. the second was about the the signage and making sure the bikes got into the bike lanes and that was really porn to make sure the bikes got into these very good bike facilities. that caused the sfmta to diseen designa safety plan. why are are we allowing bikes on
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the promenade. that's a policy question for you an the other commissioners to take up. the sfmta. it is within the port commissions power to ban bikes and come up with another solution there. the very popular and important farmer's market. you saw the solution that we brought here today. traffic flow and signal timing that are not answered specifically in these responses, there is on going work that the sfmta is doing in that work.
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i think that summarizes the responses from the sfmta. >> the only thing that i might add is taking a field trip to seattle and particularly vancouver where there are some challenging conditions that we face in san francisco. trafficking along the water front with water front access. visitor destinations and for small businesses.
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obviously just a first step because the embarcadero doesn't just run those first two blocks. it's obviously a much larger section, and we are entrusted with understanding how the whole flow of traffic of the embarcadero, from beginning to end. and i'm very happy that you're going to go to vancouver, and i think i hear a commitment that you're going to try to study this in a lot more detail and a longer term strategy of how to solve this for all the stakeholders, and that's been the objective in a lot of the comments. this is not an end-all-be-all project by itself, but we were concerned we weren't going to
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hear back from you for the next couple of days. the sfmta has been studying this problem for three or four years, and we are only now getting to one tactical project, which is good, and we commend you for that, but we hope it doesn't take another three or four years to get to the next step, and that's my comment, is please don't take that long, because we're trying to solve and we hope that the waterfront is going to come back full scheme. don't know what the plan is, obviously, after the pandemic, but we're hoping there will be a lot more activity. as you're hearing from director forbes' report, we're suffering less activity on the waterfront today as a result of the pandemic, so having all of the embarcadero be considered as a
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safe form of transportation and a driveway is great. we appreciate that you have our back and hope that your staff is understanding that, you know, we weren't asking these questions just to be difficult, we were asking these questions because we think they're important for the long run. so we're looking forward to hearing back from you. >> and we appreciate your feedback in protecting all of the stakeholders along the waterfront. you've also pushed us toward the space where we're now the best in the country, and i think you all know about the projects that i inherited that were flawed in design and took ten years or more to complete. we learned so much by using
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cheap construction materials and getting design right. it's enabled us to go from a typical ten-year project that we can go from conception to completion in as little as nine months, and that's what we want to do in the embarcadero, where we know very, very fine adjustments will make the difference between us being able to accept this change or saying no, no, that is not right for san francisco. we're committed to coming back to you until we do get it right. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman? >> commissioner gilman: again, dan, m.t.a. staff, thank you for coming back to us.
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and i think a lot of this came from trying to promote how we can encourage our users to be in the street. i have no doubt that our san franciscans who are using transit to go to work with focusing on the bike lanes, but i think we need to focus our attention how we need to get people in the streets, using the facilities, so i appreciate all of the effort, all the work, and all the signage, and i look forward to working in collaboration on the promenade. did you say, too, that you would be looking to extend the central subway to fisherman's wharf when you were talking about your initial comments?
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>> i did. and i said we should potentially do a joint session with the sfcta in looking at the next round of major transportation investments in san francisco, and that includes not only central subway but also a new geary subway that would continue down 19 avenue to daly city and would be extended across the bay to oakland. those are two of the highest scoring next major capital investments that we are in the very beginning of the planning stages of. >> commissioner gilman: well, i'm excited to hear that, and hopefully, we can get that calendared this year or next for a briefing. i'll say as a commissioner who lives on the north of the waterfront blocks from pier 39, i'm happy to hear that's under consideration, and hopefully it
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won't take ten years of planning and ten years to build, and i'd like to add my excitement and know what's going on in that project, so thank you. that concludes my comments. >> president brandon: thank you. vice president adams. >> vice president adams: thank you -- . >> commissioner woo ho: you listed a few items on your staff report, and i just wanted to say i lend support to that. i know you all come back once you have researched a little bit more, but if you ask me on a -- sort of a quick reaction basis, that's where i would go,
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so i just wanted to make that comment. >> president brandon: commissioner adams? >> vice president adams: thank you, director tumlin. i appreciate your presentation, and you've got a good staff, but we need to see you -- as the leader of the sfmta, we need to see you leading from the front. i appreciate you saying you're going to go up to seattle or vancouver. i would hope that you would consider taking president brandon and commissioner woo ho with you. i think that would be good, to
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also take director forbes. i also wanted to say, i think you broke things down. but i just wanted to say something, and i think commissioner brandon said it for me. this thing is like a sandwich, and we've got three or four things on there. if we would have been a lot clear on what we were going on, that we were voting one time and just voting on everything -- i think we need to know these three or four parts today, and then it'll be coming back on the next part -- three and three is six, and four and four is eight. ism -- i'm a layman. director tumlin, you laid it out. as commissioners, we have to represent everybody's interest here in san francisco, and that
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absolutely has to be clear. you know, pedestrians, cars everybody, and we can't have people getting run over by bicycles or whatever on the embarcadero or coming out like commissioner barton said he did. so i'm good with that, but i do want to know, what are we voting on today? i don't know, dan, so you can make it crystal clear so i understand it, and what are you and everybody going to come back with on the next phase and then on the next phase? thank you. >> commissioner, i have to stress that this is phase 1-a. there will be a 1-a, there will be a 1-b, and phase two. phase 1-a is from folsom street to broadway, and a couple of
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blocks of that, from folsom to mission, is on a previous build. so it focuses largely on the area in front of the central embarcadero, in front of the ferry building and extending up to broadway street. and it's a 1-a, as it's done with very simple, quick, improvements as drof tumlin just described. it's what's referred to as a paint and post solution, where a lot of repainting is done on the pavement and addition of soft posts out there. that allows for fine-tuning that we just described, and that can allow 1-b to come into place, and that allows some hard construction to come into place. i think somewhere between $1 and $2 million to come in.
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it narrows the crossing distances for pedestrians, so it's being taken very incrementally. the next phase would be phase two, which takes us from the folsom and townsend areas down to the south, and the whole areas get bigger, and it gives that safe zone to ride it. this is to look at all the users, and in order to make the pedestrians, the most vulnerable user, safer, we have to create that safe space for them on the promenade and also to create the intersections. so create that safe space, it does create that facility, this two-way option down the street where they'll feel comfortable
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riding in, and whether that's an electric scooter or any of the other electric vehicles you see out there, including electric bicycles or regular bicycles, it provides that opportunity is. so it looks like the biggest piece, but really, it's done for pedestrians and others. there's also the safety issue in all of this, as crossing distances for pedestrians gets shorter, it improves the through green time for vehicles. it's not a singular mode at all. it's done hopefully as quickly as we can, and really appreciated those comments from director tumlin and other commissioners as saying yes, we want to do this as quickly as possible. >> thank you for your comments,
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dan. these are really detailed explanations. so i just wanted to clarify, what you're approving today is the central quick build going to broadway. there is a future phase that will come -- any future phase in the future that dan described will come to the commission for approval. the next item that is in our queue is looking at pedestrians on the embarcadero promenade, and we will be starting out a process for that dialogue. director tumlin mentioned some other improvements, like the s-line subway and a one-day direction to fisherman's wharf, but those are improvements that the m.t.a. is making in real-time. not that subway, but we're making them in real-time as a department to benefit the
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embarcadero. so i hope that helps, between dan and i, clarify on what you're voting on today and what's coming up. >> vice president adams: thank you for that, dan and director forbes. thank you, president brandon. >> president brandon: i think that has raised more questions than ever. so today, we are voting on phase 1, which is mission to broadway, which has already been completed. so today, we're voting on mission to broadway and only what is happening within those two blocks. is that what we're doing here today or are we doing follow folsom to broadway retroactively? >> if i may, casey [inaudible], m.t.a. so what's in front of you, just to provide clarity, is to move
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forward with the broadway segment with the "quick-build" portion only. we're not going to be making changes to the promenade and establishes those changes that then enables the follow-up phases to be further clarified and further explored. >> president brandon: and then, what happens with the broadway turn as far as after you do the traffic study of broadway, do you then come back to us for approval or you just come back to us with your recommendations and keep moving forward. >> we will be coming back to the commission on which
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configuration works best. if you want a friendly amendment to clarify that, that would be fine. i don't know if we spelled that out correctly. >> in [inaudible] i will make a friendly amendment. do you want me to do that now, commissioner brandon? no? >> president brandon: okay. i just want to open this up to conversation right now, and then, we can get a motion or a friendly amendment.
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[inaudible]. >> i can answer that question. i think that the sfmta is saying and signaling there's no problem in their eyes. they were intending to come back to the commission on the broadway turn any way. it's not clear as a bell in our resolution. we can make it clear as a bell that the sfmta will come back and update us on our pilot test findings, and then, we will
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move an action to make a decision on the broadway turn. so i think it actually can be added. >> yes, and thank you, director forbes. that is exactly our intend. >> commissioner burton: if it's everybody's intent, i would ask that amendment be included unless there's a problem. >> president brandon: no problem. are the there any other questions before we open it up to public comment? okay. can i have a motion on this resolution with -- with the amendment? >> so moved. >> i second. >> president brandon: okay. let's take public comment. we will open this item up for public comment for members of the public who are waiting on the phone. jennifer will provide
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instructions now for anyone who would like to provide -- >> commissioner burton: i have a question. have we just adopted that position? >> president brandon: commissioner burton, after public comment, i'm going to open it up for discussion by commissioners again, okay? >> commissioner burton: well -- >> president brandon: i'm sorry. okay. you're on mute. >> commissioner burton: okay. as long as that's clear -- if that's our intent, we'll have all the public comment and then vote on the amendment that
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everybody is in favor of anyway, that works. thank you, madam chair. >> president brandon: is there something you would like to do differently? >> commissioner burton: to me, it would make sense to adopt that which seemed to be everybody was in favor of and have the public be able to comment on what's actually going to be before us for the -- for action. >> president brandon: okay. i think that's what we just did. >> commissioner burton: okay. we did. sorry about that. >> president brandon: no problem. let's open it up for public comment. jennifer, is there anyone on the line? go ahead and say whatever you have to say. >> clerk: thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on item 8-a. please dial star, three if you
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wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will remain on the line until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. public comment is now open. please dial star, three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have public comment? >> clerk: yes, president brandon. we have eight callers on the line at the moment. caller, are you there?
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>> hello. my name is dawn smith, and i am a merchant at pier 39. let me first say that i'm a fan of being able to ride a bike through the streets of san francisco safely. on the other hand, the needs of bikers need to be balanced by those who need to drive through san francisco to arrive at home, jobs, waterfront locations, or pleasure. blocking the embarcadero, frankly, it defies common sense to me. just imagine what the blockage will do to your revenue makers. less people driving, less people visiting fisherman's wharf and the port means less
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revenue for you. protecting us from this inevitable harm will have an impact on employers and their businesses. i know people would like to ride their bike. i would like to be hiring. thank you for your time. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. let's unmute the next line. >> commissioners, my name is francisco dacosta, and we need to do a cost-benefit needs assessment. you all have not mentioned the americans with disabilities act, and in mentioning other
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agencies, we need to remember this is public trust land. 7.5 miles that we're talking about, and we need to address partially talking about some of it. i feel that you cannot tell an astute public that [inaudible] you need to get their input. it's commonplace for you all to ramble in these meetings without being very precise, but always remember that the embarcadero is well known to the public from the days that a freeway was there and then removed, and some of us advocated for the removal, and
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i've attended your meetings for a long, long time, and i do know from time to time [inaudible] in san francisco. we don't have to go somewhere else, so i'm asking you all commissioners again, please pay attention to the public and the taxpayer. thank you very much. >> president brandon: thank you very much. the next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. unmuting the next line now. >> hello? >> president brandon: hello? >> can you hear me?
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>> president brandon: yes, we can hear you. >> okay. my name is paul chow, and i represent one of the merchants on pier 39, and i'm extremely concerned and actually disturbed about any discussions on limiting northbound traffic to one lane, vehicular traffic. a one-lane design is going to create gridlock for merchants and visitors, especially along the embarcadero which are the port tenants. the merchants have already suffered since the start of the pandemic. i'm also concerned about the
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revenues to the city of san francisco. i believe m.t.a. must develop a plan that maintains at least two lanes for vehicle traffic in both directions, north and south, because 50% of the 12 to 15 million visitors arrive here by automobile. thank you very much. >> president brandon: thank you very much. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> good afternoon, executive director and president brandon, vice president brandon. thank you for expressing your concerns and asking tough questions about this project. i'm calling you to ask you to not consider phase 1 of the embarcadero project today as proposed but instead propose to
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m.t.a. to maintain two northbound and southbound lanes of traffic. i certainly understand the need to create a protected bike lane along this section of the embarcadero. we've all experienced the gridlock that happens when multiple traffic lanes are suddenly reduced to one lane due to construction. traffic slows to a crawl. it happens every time, and it's going to happen at broadway. i attended the very first meeting for this enhancement project in 2013, and i've attended every one since. the bike lane project must not reduce the number of traffic lanes in either direction on the embarcadero. it's been my only request, and unfortunately, you're being asked to approve a proposed
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request that does just that. the livelihoods of the merchants on the waterfront depend on the embarcadero. 50% of pier 39s 12 to 15 million visitors a year arrive by car, taxi, or ride share, and you're going to have to share those with bicyclists. i urge you to reject any plan that sacrifices the lane of traffic and puts drivers at the bottom of the list on this very critical traffic artery. i encourage you to at least require a traffic control officer on-site to make sure that the traffic on the northbound waterfront runs unimpeded. thank you. >> president brandon: thank
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you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> thank you, commissioners. my name is david burrbay. [inaudible] plus five other retail stores on the wharf. it's clear that limiting any traffic lanes on fisherman's wharf will impede our business significantly, especially in light of what's happened over the last 15 months. i, along with mr. stratford, are willing to test or approve any project that would eliminate any traffic lanes.
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the space there, it's doable. i think they need to come back and come up with a plan that's equitable for all stakeholders. i can see that you're -- obviously, you have the stakeholders at heart, you're listening, and you ask tough questions, so it shows that you're taking this seriously. again, i would urge you not to support this plan. go back and come up with a two-lane plan that makes sense for all stakeholders. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> hello, everyone. thank you for your attention.
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my name is [inaudible] and i am a merchant on pier 39, and we do not approve a new quick build bike lane on the embarcadero -- [inaudible] >> president brandon: okay. go ahead. i'm sorry. >> okay. sorry. please recognize the design is going to create gridlock and how this will affect merchants and businesses on the waterfront. businesses struggled to go back to work after covid-19, so decreasing traffic lanes would have negative outlook on the wharf. it definitely will attract less visitors, tenants, and business in general. thank you so much. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please.
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>> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> good afternoon. thank you, commissioners. my name is todd barbie. i'm a planning and design consultant that's spent the better part of 25 years working with many of the leading tour and attraction operators in the fisherman's wharf community. thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak today. i believe there's little if any opposition among merchants to a dedicated and distinct bike lane along the embarcadero as a means of providing safe way for visitors, bike riders, and residents alike.
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everyone knows what a critical thoroughfare the embarcadero is. a responsible balance of pedestrian, biking, and vehicular traffic is critical for commerce and the health of local businesses. in fact, i believe one can make a very strong case that the embarcadero is one of the primary means of access for visitors to and from the wharf area. we all know just how congested the embarcadero can be during certain days, certain seasons, and certain hours of the day that use this thoroughfare daily to and from work. so i believe it's critical that any plan that's decided on, any reduction of motor vehicle lanes in either direction that favors one mode of transportation over the other is short sighted and will
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create an unfortunate and negative impact on the san francisco fisherman's wharf community. thoughtful design and that you sayful use of the available space -- and thoughtful use of the available space will minimally affect the environment. i urge the sfmta to find a long-term solution that works with everyone without reducing the number of motor vehicle lanes currently available to vehicular traffic. this solution is not that. thank you very much. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. hello, caller. are you there?
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try that again. >> hello? >> clerk: hello. go ahead, please. >> my name is tom simmons, and i am a merchant on fisherman's wharf. i wholeheartedly concur with the idea of rejecting this proposal because it unduly affects vehicular traffic. no one suggests that having pedestrians be safe or bicyclists be safe is any less important, but why is the businesses down at fisherman's wharf at pier 39 being put in a lesser position?
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we need vehicular traffic, as as -- traffic. as you've heard before, half of the traffic that comes to this area is vehicular traffic. please reject this proposal, have the m.t.a. look at something that continues traffic in both directions with as many lanes as possible and has pedestrian safety and bicyclist safety in mind. this is not that proposal. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please.
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it looks like we have six callers remaining. >> hello? >> president brandon: hello? >> hello? yes, hi. hello? my name is sydney -- i'm a merchant at the -- hello? my name is sydney, and i'm a merchant at the fisherman's wharf for the last 29 years? and i'd like to object to the two lanes becoming into one? if you have to come into the city and have to wait in a long line to get into the wharf, i think you'd be frustrating to get in with the family. my name is -- hello? yes, i can hear you. >> president brandon: okay. we can hear you. go ahead. >> hello.
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my name is sydney, and i'm from pier 39. been there for the last 16 years, and would like to express my concern for the two lanes coming into one. i think it will hurt the merchants significantly especially if you're in a tourist's position if you come into the city and have to wait in a long line to come in. if they have to wait in traffic for a long time, they would think twice to come to the city again, so we do not want to deter. we want to make it easy, hopefully, to come, but i think if you make it difficult, they will not come back to the city. that's just my concern.
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thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> yeah, my name is brian hayes, and i just love the embarcadero. i love it. i am a biker, and i bike up and down the embarcadero about 300 times a year. i'll tell you what. the most dangerous thing of when you're on the embarcadero, when you narrow it down to one lane, it's a traffic jam. when people finally breakthrough that gridlock, you listen to the motors. when you're biking, you're listening to the motors behind you, and these guys are like the indianapolis 500, gunning
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it to try to get to their destination. i appreciate everybody going fast now, and the government running ten-year studies and ten-year projects, but in this case, i think we've gone too fast. i think that traffic timing light study has to come first. we need to see how that impacts the flow. this is about flow, and making people flow and not being squeezed and congested and forced out, and that's where a lot of these e-bikes -- so there's traffic and cars skidding around and trying to detour, and that pushes them -- the problem that i've heard, the pedestrians. i'm on that embarcadero 300 days a year, up and down the embarcadero. i love it. it's one of my peaceful places in the whole -- i love it. it's just wonderful, but i think we need to have the
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m.t.a. -- one lane, it doesn't make sense to me as a bicyclist. there are more cars than bicyclists that go down the embarcadero. i feel comfortable, as a long-term bicyclist, going down the embarcadero. there's painted bike lanes. i feel very comfortable, very safe, and anyone on e-bikes, when things are congested from the construction, that pushes them onto the bikeways. i think we need to take the timing studies, what the
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traffic light does for everybody. any way, that's just my opinion. you guys are going to go down and stay there. i'm there. i'm a bicyclist, i can tell you. i'm there 300 days out of 365. it's reducing it down to one lane is a very dangerous idea, very dangerous idea. thank you very much for your time. >> president brandon: thank you for your comments. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> thank you, commissioners. my name is [inaudible] and i've been a merchant on fisherman's wharf for over 47 years. during that time, i have seen many disruptions in the flow of business to the wharf from
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earthquakes to the adjustments to the traffic lanes to the construction on the embarcadero, which we're still recovering from. bicycle safety is important, and i understand this, but so is the livelihood for fisherman's wharf. a plan has to be developed that provides bike safety along with traffic flow to the wharf. i travel the embarcadero six days a week, and i experience it when it reduces traffic to one lane, a delivery truck that's double parked reducing traffic to one lane. when that happens, a trip from at&t park that should take ten
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minutes takes an hour or more. this is very frustrating, especially for the tourists. i urge you to have engineers look for alternative options that will ensure that no part of the embarcadero will be reduced to one lane. >> president brandon: thank you. >> clerk: thank you. we have three callers remaining. unmuting the next line. >> thank you. can you hear me? hello. >> president brandon: yes. >> okay. thank you. my name is dina vonne [inaudible] and i'm president of the fisherman's wharf community benefit district. i urge you to please vote no on the sfmta quick build bike lane proposal before you today, phase 1-a. while the safety of the embarcadero remains a top priority [inaudible] that will
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not create additional gridlock, traffic, and safety issues. please, let's not solve one problem by creating another. the reductions to the embarcadero results in changes to business along the water and the wharf. while bicyclist, pedestrian, and pedestrian safety is extremely important, equally important is the on going success of the port's commercial tenants along the waterfront, which must also be taken into consideration. i ask you to please vote know on today's phase 1-a proposal and instead require that the sfmta work more closely with you, the commissioners, the board, and stakeholders to
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ensure two continuous lanes of traffic in the embarcadero remain. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. opening the next line. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is paul miller, and i'm the executive vice president of boudin bakery. we all know the importance of state street and the protected bike lane, but that's not the issue here. what is the issue is reducing the traffic down to one lane at the broadway intersection. this would effectively shutdown all vehicular traffic and jam frack from the oracle parkway on -- jam traffic from the oracle parkway that we've seen on busy days.
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the embarcadero is a major thoroughfare and used by residents, employees, students, businesses, and tourists to the northern waterfront. delivery trucks, automobiles, and buses all use this roadway. one lane is not enough for the public that depends on the embarcadero. i strongly encourage the commission to more closely review the changes the m.t.a. is proposing and not allow changes to the embarcadero. i am encouraged today that the sfmta is looking at a couple options, and to see that b and c have two lanes continuing to the waterfront, so i would propose looking at those two options that keep two lanes going to the water front. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you for your comment.
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do we have any other callers? >> clerk: yes. we have one last caller. opening that line now. >> hi. my name is margaret [inaudible] and i'm a merchant on the embarcadero? and i really don't want to waste any more of your time by repeating what everyone else has said, but i'm completely in agreement. i'm very, very bike friendly, and i'm thrilled that san francisco is becoming more bike friendly, but one lane doesn't work. one lane for cars on the embarcadero just doesn't work, so please reconsider, and i respectfully ask you to reject the proposal and study further. thank you for your time, thank you for what you're about to do and the project. it's very worthy, but we have to do it another way. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. jennifer, are there any other
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callers? >> clerk: president brandon, are there any other members of the public wishing to make public comment? [inaudible] >> president brandon: commissioner burton? you're on mute. >> commissioner burton: no comment. >> president brandon: okay. [inaudible] >> commissioner gilman: yes. could we have the m.t.a. top line please remind us why they're going to use a traffic study at broadway because this was a study to see what the impacts would be if the lane configuration was change, so if you could just please remind me why this is part of the quick build proposal? my first question. >> you know, i think the callers alluded to, there's
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just less space at broadway to do all of the things that we would like to do. we know there has to be tradeoffs made in order to address safety, in order to approve the promenade. we spent a significant amount of time doing our analysis. we are worried about not serving the left-hand turn onto broadway and backing up and also increasing congestion. but we're not going to a crystal ball that is going to get us over the hump of the concerns of a number of folks that you just heard from fisherman's wharf. our goal is we need to test this real-time, and we need to do it thoughtfully, and we need to have evaluation with data
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and support our evaluation with data and support it moving forward. i just think in the current proposal that we are proposing for the field test, we would maintain two northbound travel lanes, and what i'm hearing would be a more preferred configuration to see if that single left-hand turn lane would work. we would be coming back prior to the commission to switching over, and if it's working well, we would have a recommendation to prolong the field test to see if that condition can work for a longer period of time, but that is kind of the crux of where we're at. a lat of these concerns have been raised over many years, and we're taking them seriously. >> commissioner gilman: so a couple of questions, casey. so we need to do the bicycle
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lanes, we need to change the configuration at the broadway turn. that's what i'm hearing you say. >> correct. >> commissioner gilman: they are interconnected, so propose would the study proposal be? >> we're proposing a period of two to four months, but we're asking to have the ability to make calls as we do the field test. >> commissioner gilman: and what is the average length of field tests in the past in order to make an informed decision? do you need two to four months? could it be done in six to eight weeks? i'm just asking to impact businesses in a different way. this is called a public study, and we're making no decisions
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to establish a turn lane, it's just a presentation to allow us to make a decision. can we do this in six to eight weeks or is there a rationale of two to four months? >> we're not asking for less than two to four months because people's behavior can change while out in the field. there's a period of adjustment and then confusion if they say things differently, so we want to make sure the confusion goes away and we're starting to see a regular pattern. obviously, the embarcadero changes season to season, and we're proposing to do this in
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-- early in the season, so we do recommend two months being a solid minimum. i would be hesitant to go sooner, but if that is requested, you know, we can certainly accommodate that. at some point, we need some time to do the work and make the changes, and that does take a little bit of time. so i would hesitate to go shorter than two months. other times, we do sort of longer pilots, nine months to a year, and clearly, that's not appropriate for this situation right now. >> commissioner gilman: okay. thank you. so then, i guess, my comments to fellow commissioners is, you know -- and i want to acknowledge for the folks at fisherman's wharf and pier 39, at least i heard those comments and i heard those concerns. i think what's important for me if we move this item forward is this is a field study test. it seems like it would take
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place between january and april of this year. it could be between two to four months, and data gathering, and we'd come back to this commission. the m.t.a. would not being taking any action on their own without input from us, and i want to say i have concern about traffic flow to the wharf and traffic flow in general. i know even though it's some time off, we will be having a state of the art hotel and concert venue, so i think the community of the embarcadero is in flux right now, and we do need to figure out the best traffic pattern. i do want to know that it is a
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study, and so those are my comments, and i just wanted to be very clear to the m.t.a. is that the expectation is that the commission would take no action unless it came back to us, and that's the amendment that was made, as well. >> president brandon: thank you. shall we vote? okay. commissioner woo ho. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. my reaction to the comments, i'm not sure what commissioner gilman was requesting because of the study. there's no parking that would be removed, it would continue to keep a protected bike lane and two lanes of traffic, is that correct? there's no more parking to be
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removed. i think we all know what it's like on our freeways. when you go down from three lanes to two or three lanes to one, it backs up for a distance. and it's not just a mile or two, it can be the whole way. i think if we were going to approve anything today, i would approve the "quick-build" to two lanes north, to not reduce it, and to see what happens to the bicycle traffic because that's the one that we're trying to protect and understand what is workable or not. it's not the vehicular traffic that's the question because i think if you merge it down to
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one less lane, that it doesn't work. the question is -- the question is whether the bicycle can continue to be -- if that section is not will it affect the businesses? i think we all know if you reduce the traffic lanes, it will, but will the bike lanes still be protected. i didn't realize that 50% of people that come to the northern end of the waterfront come by the car, but that's not a surprise, i guess. i think we have to study that
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issue versus how many cars are going to be congested because -- i just think that it's common sense, and the caller that made the argument that there's more cars than bicyclists, and that's true. there are more cars traveling on the embarcadero than bicycling, so we have to take into consideration who we're making it best for. so we're trying to make it the best for everyone, but you have to understand the trade-off. my question to the sfmta is if we said you must maintain the two lanes north -- it's a question of what's going to happen to the bicyclists, is the rest of the project going to still go forward? if you maintain two traffic
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lanes north, is the "quick-build" project still feasible for you? >> casey hildreth, sfmta. we can connect from broadway. that is a feasible design in terms of the physical width. it does concern going down to a single lane on broadway. we were proposing that as part of a single lane concept? the question would be, then, is that single left-turn lane sufficient for that turn and not create the congestion that none of us want to see to the point that it becomes an infeasible project, but certainly, we can build two projects that --
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>> commissioner woo ho: today, you have a single turn and two traffic flow lanes. >> commissioner gilman: commissioner, i'm sorry. as someone who takes it all the time, there are two lanes that turn left to broadway. >> president brandon: commissioner gilman, can you let the sfmta answer? >> commissioner gilman: sorry. >> president brandon: because it's [inaudible] right now, i think there's six lanes. there's a bike lane, there's two left-turn lanes, and two lanes going down, so it's five or six lanes there now? >> four vehicle lanes and two bicycle lanes. so it's four lanes, left turn turn onto broadway with a
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single protected bike lane today. >> president brandon: so i think where we're trying to get is everybody wants a protected bike lane. we're all agreeing with that, but the question is how we get it. with all of our tenants at fisherman's wharf, with all of the vehicles along the embarcadero, how can we resolve this so that we are not just looking at what's best for the bicycle -- the cyclists and not really considering the traffic flow, the congestion? but what we don't want to do, especially with our economic recovery efforts, hamper our tenants on the northbound embarcadero. so i think that what we probably should look at first is moving forward with these protected bike lanes and not doing any major adjustments at
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broadway because from washington to broadway, you're already going from three to two northbound lanes. so if we go from three to one, which, again, i guess we're losing one with the new protected lanes, so there'll only be two on washington and one to broadway, so i really think, at this point, maybe we can support the moving forward with the "quick-build" but doing an overall analysis because the embarcadero is gridlocked. when we're -- when we come out of covid, and we're in the heat of our summer season, the embarcadero is already gridlocked. i think what we're really talking about at embarcadero is rush hour, you know? maybe 7:00 to 9:00 a.m. in the
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morning, when people are using it as a thoroughfare to get to the rest of the city, and maybe i'm not sure that it's like that throughout the day. so maybe we can just try with this "quick-build," having two lanes going northbound, one left-turn lane. later, we can possibly study two left-turn lanes or something, some hybrid, but we cannot cutoff fisherman's wharf to the rest of the embarcadero. we just cannot do it. that's my thoughts. so vice president -- commissioner woo ho, were you done with your thoughts? >> commissioner woo ho: i think you summarized it very well. i'm with you, and i heard that the m.t.a. that they might be able to accommodate so that we can agree with a project today, which i would like to see some
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progress on the "quick-build," but it sounds like if they can make a commitment to keep those two lanes north, and that the protected bike lane may not be as great as we would want it, but there's still a protected like lane taking care of the bicyclists, and it's a study, two to four months, and you may not be studying in a seasonality factor. i'm not sure we'd want to know until we study it for a longer period -- i don't know what the right time period is, but all i know is going from two to one is definitely going to be a problem. i mean, i just think it's commonsense. >> okay. so let me just step in and
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clarify your perspective. in order to deal with the safety problems at broadway and embarcadero, we have to lose a lane, and there's a question on whether that lane is going to come from the left turn or the straight through. taking it from the left turn may actually result in worse traffic congestion than taking it from the straight through lane because of the way the traffic works at that particular intersection. we care greatly about the flow of this artery. this is a very important intersection to us, and we have done extensive modelling and a whole variety of different options. the options tell us what the models do but nothing beats a real today. what we're proposing is to test both options. we believe, and we have our
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preliminary conclusions from the modelling, but nothing beats actual reality, and it is important to test those options. if one of those is a complete failure, we can stop the test. if it is a success, we can extend the test. fine-tuning the exact timing of the left turn phase, the pedestrian phases, there's lots of small tweaks that we can do that are best done in the field rather than in clumsy traffic analysis software. i urge you to allow us to move forward with the different testing options to see how they work because in my 30 years of experience doing traffic analyses because what appears to become [inaudible] actually is not. traffic analysis is very much
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an alice in wonderland world, and what seems to be a bad idea can be a wonderful solution, and sometimes what appears to be a wonderful solution does not work as anticipated. >> president brandon: okay. commissioner woo ho, do you have any other questions? >> commissioner woo ho: okay. given the comments from director tumlin, i'd say that we should start with the two left turn, and we'll see if the reality does actually prove that out because i guess model is a model. and if that's the case, you can come back to us and we can revisit that issue.
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nonetheless, i am not a traffic analyst. you guys are the experts. i don't know the answer, but i think that would make me more comfortable to go forward with this project. >> president brandon: thank you. vice president adams? >> vice president adams: i think commissioner gilman had her hand up first. >> president brandon: she's had a couple of opportunities to speak. go ahead with yours.
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>> vice president adams: i heard what everyone said, and after not having a car for 18 years, i just got a car, and i can tell you, you all are driving me crazy with your car comments. jeffery, maybe you can tell me, it's just such a disconnect, even with the commissioners, and i'm glad we're getting down to the bones, so when i hear taylor saying, and all of these people, where are we missing the boat at or is it just misconception or -- where are we going wrong at? >> thank you very much, vice president adams. i'll chime in and then invite
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director tumlin to add additional comments. i would add that the sfmta has worked closely with the port on the study. they've spent a lot of time with our merchants, and you could hear that in the comments that the merchants expressed overall support for the project, so i just wanted to take a moment to say that there was public -- serious stakeholder involvement. where i think the public may have a december connect is
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the -- disconnect is that the traffic will be reduced from two to one. sfmta's traffic modelling says one should go all the way through -- two should go all the way through and one should turn, and everyone else says one should go all the way through and two should turn. director tumlin has repeatedly said these changes are easy to lay down, so if something
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doesn't work as anticipated, we can make changes immediately. director tumlin, would you like to add anything? >> no, director forbes. you said it exactly. >> vice president adams: thank you very much. >> president brandon: commissioner gilman? >> commissioner gilman: thank you very much, director forbes. i think it's important. i would just ask for a shorter test, even if we do it during peak time in order to create less inconvenience for everybody, but that clarity was what i was looking for, and i think it's important that we gather the data and see what was happening. i also want to remind us at our last meeting that we had over
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100 letters and comments from constituents, which is why i think that going forward and trying to figure out, basically going forward with no concept except for testing. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner woo ho? >> commissioner woo ho: yeah. i think the testing is something is that we've already discussed, but it is affected by seasonality, and seasonality is affected at different times of the year. i'm just suggesting, when you model things and test things at the wrong time, you're going to get different answers. it's not just oh, we're going to do a test, and the test said x, and that's fine. what are you going to test in the summer versus winter? i don't know what the existing
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test patterns are, but my question is january through march is not a high peak tourist season because of the pandemic, so i just want to be careful before we just go ahead and jump in and say we'll test it, and the test may not be as concluesive as we think it is, and i would like director tumlin to address how are we going to understand the seasonality factor? and given that we are living in a pandemic, so we don't have the usual traffic patterns, so how are we going too read these test result -- going to read these test results? >> yeah. one of the things that we have because of cell phone technology, we can back cast any of the results and
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calibrate the results of our test to future conditions as the economy recovers, you know, looking at summer versus winter and get a much more accurate estimate of what the traffic conditions will be in any given condition. >> president brandon: commissioner woo ho, do you have any other questions? . >> commissioner woo ho: no, but i'd like us to phrase exactly what's being put in. >> president brandon: okay. commissioner burton, do you have any other questions? >> commissioner burton: no, i think everything has been thoroughly hashed out.
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>> president brandon: okay. >> commissioner burton: you want me to call in rescue for you? >> president brandon: okay. so commissioner woo ho would like to know exactly what we're proposing. so just for my clarification, once we do the "quick-build," which will be done hopefully by the end of december, according to your timeline? >> i would ask that we have until the end of january so we can adjust for that p.u.c. project affording to that contract. >> president brandon: okay. so we cannot start until they finish? >> there would be a little bit of overlap. some overlap would be okay, and we can start pieces as they're still wrapping up. they're not at broadway,
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they're more at washington, but yeah, there could be minor overlap. it shouldn't affect our implementation. we would not want them there for a long period of time while we're obviously evaluating traffic. >> president brandon: right. so when will the "quick-build" construction start and end? >> i would argue it's a little bit of a challenge for us to get our crews out there. it would take a couple of weeks to do the striping changes and bicycle headway. the actually sort of, like, meat of the project would take no more than a couple of weeks to implement. and so it could be that we only start in early january, it
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could be that we begin implementation in early 2021, but to the average rider, you wouldn't notice the bulk of the changes until we're almost at full implementation. >> president brandon: [inaudible] and then we'll do a few weeks of testing. this is a hard one. this is a really hard one, and i think the one thing that we are all committed to are these dedicated cycling. we want to have dedicated bicycle safety lanes along the embarcadero, and we are all committed to that. i think at this particular intersection, unlike any other part of this "quick-build," this is a tricky one. and i think that it's just hard
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for me personally to let go of a minimum of two lanes. so can we just -- can we just have you come back -- so we're going to have you do a couple of months of testing or so. can you just come back in february or march and tell us how it's going with the flow now before you make the changes? is that possible? >> i'm sorry. can you clarify? so -- can you clarify that? i'm sorry. >> president brandon: meaning we'll have a bike lane, we'll have two lanes going north and one turn lane. >> yes. >> president brandon: that's how it's going to be until we study the other way, right? >> yes. our proposal is just to do
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exactly that. maintain the two travel lanes northbound, and come back to you with an initial sort of interpretation of how things are going. if they're going terribly, we could talk about going with the configuration for a longer period of time, and we could really have a real-time discussion about does it make sense to do anything else right now or could we push out any changes and see how the current configuration is working if it's working fairly well. >> president brandon: clear. so right now, we are agreeing to the bike lane, two lanes going north, one left-turn lane. >> correct.
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>> president brandon: that's what we're agreeing to when we agree to this. >> well, you're agreeing to one option that we'll be testing. >> president brandon: right. one option and ask you you to come back with how that has -- how that's flowing, and if you say we need to go to option two just to test it because it's backing up and not flowing good, then, we can have this conversation if we go to two lanes or one lane going left or one lane going straight? >> i think it's a good thing throughout this process to report back on our results and sharing our findings
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throughout. >> commissioner woo ho: so i have one more comment to make, commissioner brandon. >> president brandon: commissioner woo ho. >> i think the people that are turning left on broadway are going to chinatown and they're not necessarily the tourists. the tourists are going all the way through to the fisherman's wharf. so we may end up -- and if you put signs up that people may turn earlier -- you know, you train them that they're going to turn on howard and turn much earlier to avoid the congestion that they may see. i don't know, but i think we do
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need to make sure that the traffic can get through to fisherman's wharf to protect the merchants with economic recovery. the other people with other choices, they can turn earlier, and you can show us, how can you change their behavior and they can maybe turn earlier if they're consistently going in this direction? i mean, you can influence and change behaviors, whereas the people that are going to fisherman's wharf, that's where they're going and that's their destination. does that make sense?
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>> it does, but sansome and battery also serve fisherman's wharf, and we need to help people find the best route no matter what mode they're taking, particularly since fisherman's wharf, it is in a bit of a cul-de-sac. >> and i'm reticent to say that four weeks may not be enough to make a pattern switch which would ultimately be better for the embarcadero. >> commissioner woo ho: right.
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>> president brandon: anymore questions? >> president brandon: no -- >> commissioner woo ho: no, i'm done. >> president brandon: okay. commissioner gilman? >> commissioner gilman: no, but i'm not a transit expert. all i have is experience, but depending on the data and information, just keep us informed because the embarcadero serves a lot of interests. tourists, neighbors, all sorts of folks who live and work and want to spend time on the northeast waterfront, and we want it to be seamless so they can spend time and dollars on the southeast waterfront, so i'm ready to move forward on this item.
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>> president brandon: okay. so director forbes, can you clarify [inaudible]. >> okay. so you'll be approving 1-a, which is the "quick-build" project. you'll be approving the project resolutions, which has the sfmta returning to the port commission, and that will be the time to work with the sfmta and port staff on the test and how the test is implemented, but many commissioners have said if all is going well, that we don't see additional traffic, that that would be the same to make that presentation.
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so maybe, carl, if you can help we with the language. i'll help you, too. i think it would be -- what do you have, carl? >> we have, so whereas the sfmta will test configuration of the auto traffic lanes northbound on the embarcadero at the intersection of sansome and broadway, and will collect data affecting mission street and broadway. subject to the requirements, the sfmta will test the configuration of auto traffic lanes northbound on the embarcadero at the intersection of broadway, and that test
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shall be a configuration with no less than two northbound and southbound lanes. >> okay. i think what we want to do is strike the language about the sfmta testing and say instead the sfmta will return to the port commission with an update on project implementation and discuss a pilot test for the broadway period and not have those two as clauses that require the testing first. and then, in the second part where you were reading tests, where the sfmta would test, i would strike test. does that sound about right, commissioners? . and then, the motion will be amended in that fashion to
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reflect the configuration of the "quick-build" project, and the sfmta will be back to give an update of how it's going and will include specifically about how traffic is flowing. and at that time, we'll have dialogue. thank you. okay. did i miss anything, carl? >> president brandon: that's perfect. can we have a motion and a -- we have a motion and a second. can we please have a roll call vote. [roll call] >> president brandon: thank you so much. the resolution -- the motion passes unanimously as amended.
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resolution 21-32 is adopted, and thank you so much, director tumlin, for joining us and giving us so much clarity. thank you casey, mark, the entire team. thank you. next item, please. >> clerk: 9-a is an informational presentation and an overview of the waterfront resilience program project development and delivery process. >> good afternoon, president brandon, vice president adams, commissioners? brad benson. i'm the port's waterfront resilience director? we appreciate the time on the agenda to talk about very important effort to develop the resilience program, which is,
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you know, a very defined project development in a delivery process? i want to start by acknowledging steven rio, who's in charge of engineering and project delivery for the program. steven wrote the delivery and the presentation but could not be here today because of family business, so i'm really filling in for steven. a multidecade multibillion dollar investment is required along san francisco's waterfront to provide safety and reduce flood risk to the city of san francisco. to deliver this in an efficient and resilient method, we urge
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there to be a development within the framework. next slide, please. so this is an overview of today's presentation. we'll touch briefly and just a reminder about the different things happening in the water resilient program. we'll talk about the steps in project development and that delivery process and touch briefly on contracting opportunities, but i will flag that we'll be back to the commission to talk further about those contracting opportunities. next slide, please. so you've seen this slide -- commission's seen this slide before. we've got multiple efforts in the resilience program. we're developing an adaptation plan called the adapt plan that we hope to publish next year
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for comments by the public? we're very lucky to be engaged with the army corps of engineers on a project that's looking at the flood risk along the entire waterfront, and we've got the southern seawall seismic vulnerability study? we've also recently completed the mobility study with the s.f. planning department, sfmta, and the san francisco public utilities commission. so this program and -- and project delivery strategy will ultimately apply to all of the efforts in the resilience program. next slide, please. so i'm going to talk a little bit about the benefits of a
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programatic approach. really, the tension is to develop a strategy for delivery of multirelated projects. through this approach to program management, we'll be able to manage interdependencies among projects, be able to elevate issues quickly for shall resolution. we want -- for issue resolution. we want to really be able to learn as we go and become as effective and continuously improving as possible.
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we have development, predesign of project, and then final design and construction, and you'll see that the environmental review and permitting process overlaps the design process. what we're trying to do with this overall strategy is to provide a consistent framework for project delivery. this is critical for a construction project of this design and complexity. it's designed to present highly successful construction projects on time and within budget. as the program develops over the coming year, the resilience program staff will make a recommendation to the court commission on future contracts to ensure the development of program developments so that these are maximized and the
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port receives maximum value for its investments. these are industry best practice approach and it's used by the public utilities commissions, so it's not a new strategy. the [inaudible] your process allows for continuous evaluation of the benefits and costs of specific projects. next slide, please. so next step, we've reported to the port commission, we've identified life safety risks in various areas of the waterfront, been working with emergency response managers to understand where we need better performance for disaster response along the waterfront;
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engineering. as we take these steps, we're getting more and more certainty about our cost range for the project. some projects will, at this stage, need more detailed study, stakeholder input, maybe technical input to support evaluation, while other projects may be more straightforward. we will use a risk informed approach to focus resources on developing what matters most for alternatives analysis. we've got a lot of ideas and conditions data. we've been out in the public three years, gathering stakeholder input. we'll look at design feasibility, construction and construction impact, and risk. at this stage, there's still a
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fairly large amount of budget uncertainty. next slide, please. after the alternatives analysis and recommending an alternative, we'll form the draft basis of design, what requirements are required, and select the delivery method for detailed design and construction. for most projects, there will be a detailed concept of design. at the end of this stage, a decision is made to advance the project and initiate environmental review and
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permitting. next slide, please. then, at this point, we'll have an approved baseline budget and schedule, and we could advance further design and construction of the project. that could also occur at the conceptual design stage. next slide, please. then we'll conduct value engineering, look at constructability and final approvals. there are a number of methods of delivery allowed under the city's code. the most common is design and
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build, but we've used cmgc for projects like the cruise terminal. there's also a design process and progressive design build, and we'll be back to the port commission to describe these different delivery options at a later meeting. next slide, please. so there will be contracting opportunities to advance these projects for engineering, design, and review, construction and construction management, we believe a future approach to this construction management will help achieve l.b.e. goals and value for money invested. next slide, please. that concludes my presentation, and i'm here to answer any questions that the commission has. thank you.
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>> president brandon: thank you so much. now let's open it up for public comment. [inaudible] >> clerk: at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on item 9-a. please dial star, three if you wish to make public comment. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star, three if you wish to make public comment.
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president brandon, we have no callers on the line wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: okay. seeing no callers on the line to make public comment, public comment is closed. commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: i just wanted to make sure what our plan would be to make sure we have strong l.b.e. representation on those bids or did i make it around the requirements or what your comments were around that part?
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>> you did not miss it. there was not a deep dive related to the l.b.e. strategy, and we will come back and present that to you, but there will be a lot of contract opportunities coming up in the near future, coming up in the next year, towards the end of 2022. >> commissioner gilman: no, and i just want to make sure in the outreach that, you know, we're also making sure that we're compensating individuals or giving the opportunity to be at the table, and we've done a ton of outreach and had people at the table to do that. but i think sometimes we forget that we should be valuing folks' times at the same time that we value ours. those are my comments and i have no other questions. thank you. >> thank you, commissioner.
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>> commissioner woo ho: commissioner brandon? >> commissioner woo ho: yes. something happened to my laptop, and unfortunately, i'm locked out of teams, so i did not hear the comment but i did hear the slides. >> president brandon: you it. any comment? >> commissioner woo ho: no. we've been hearing about this for a while and all the programs and presentations and initiatives that we've been doing because we've been hearing this for quite sometime. >> this is setting up the delivery phase of the program, so we're in the planning process. we've identified early projects to buydown some of the life safety and disaster response risks that we're seeing.
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we'll be before the commission later this year to talk about those projects and get direction about proposition a, and what this is doing is providing context for how we're going to take a programmatic approach for delivering those projects when we get that direction. is that -- is that helpful? >> commissioner woo ho: yeah. i think we've been hearing -- you're connecting the dot is what i've gathered from presentation you've said in your -- from anything you've said in your presentation, and you're going to come back and present later in your timeline, is that right? >> yes. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. i think we've been hearing bits and pieces on your timeline, but this is the first time that we've been hearing about a comprehensive level, is that correct? >> yes. this is a critical way that
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we're trying to structure the program so that there's consistency, we have opportunities to look at the project, to get feedback from the port and also to present to the commission. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. just want to say appreciate all the hard work and appreciate that it's so thorough and comprehensive and look forward to more progress on it. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner burton? >> commissioner burton: no comments. thank you for the presentation. >> president brandon: commissioner [inaudible]? >> thank you, brad. very comprehensive, very excited about this. because once you get ahold of
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something, you don't let it go. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you, brad. thank you so much for this presentation, and [inaudible]. >> clerk: item 10-a, request approving of one, increasing fades one budget from 145 million to 184.2 million and two, modified china basin park construction sequencing for the mission rock project at seawall lost 337, bounded by china basin channel, third street,
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mission rock street, and san francisco way. >> thank you. phil williamson, project manager for the port. today, you will hear from myself and rebecca bendencini, and [inaudible] is here to answer questions either before, during, or after presentation. thank you. next slide, please. phase one construction continues the phase with horizontal streets and sidewalks. [inaudible] with parcel g, the visa headquarters, scheduled to erect its final steel supportive members later this month. that is a big milestone for that building. next slide, please. at the july meeting, july 14 meeting, port staff updated the commission on the progress the
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team has made since the phase one budget was approved in september 2019, and those steps are shown here. and as you can see, it's been a busy 23 months what we approved the -- that we approved the budget in september 2019. next slide, please. we also provided this snapshot of upcoming project milestones that we're looking at over the next two, 2.5 years, and we're looking at working on china basin park and parcel f. next slide, please. we also reviewed the d.b.a. provisions that are guiding our consideration of the proposed phase one as described here. next slide, please. the end water portions of the park align with phase two,
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there by reducing phase one cost increase from $62 million to approximately $39 million. also applying the d.b.a. reduced return provision for the first 31 glr million of phase one cost increases, and this reduces the rate of return on that amount from 18% down to today around 4.1%, and we also discussed implementing monetary penalties for submitting the phase two budget after a negotiated deadline. next slide, please. during the july informational presentation, the commission requested additional information on the four items listed here. the next four slides will focus on each of these issues. next slide, please. regarding the project's contracting efforts, through march of this year, the project has spent and invested in the waterfront $490 million at
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mission rock phase one. $60 million is committed to requiring l.b.e. with general contractors, bringing the total l.b.e. awards to 19%, just shy of the 20% goal for horizontal and vert wal construction. turning to the image of china basin park, this shows the inland portion of the park in green. the end water portion, shown in orange, is proposed to be built in a later phase. the green portion, including the bay trail portion, will remain accessible to the public during construction of the orange portion. now there may be limited construction circumstances that
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require temporary closures of portions of the park but the developer will work to limit disruption in the construction area. i just want to note that this stage is more than five years in advance of the outside date and defined term in our d.b.a., so it's well in advance of that date, and also want to point out that the overall project finances benefit greatly from getting phase two started as soon as we can, so i think the developer is excited to start phase two as soon as possible, so with that in mind, the developer and staff looked at this date and studied the potential for moving it up and conkpluded after meeting and looking at some of the dates that are shown here on this
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been increated from 10% to 20% on phase one -- increased from 10% to 20% on phase one. very complicated and unfortunately a little more extensive than we thought, so that experience, i think there's been -- what has pushed the team to look at increasing the contingency to this higher percent going forward. next slide, please. >> thank you so much, phil. i'll take this one. good afternoon and good evening, commissioners. rebecca bendecini, director of real estate at the port. we have here in 2019 the approved budget, but we currently show at $145.4 million, which was your
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approval back in 2019. the proposed increase before you is an increase to $184 million. this is a 38.6 million increase, about a 27% increase since 2019. we went over the hard costs increase and the soft cost increase, and this was due to a lot more architectural review, legal costs. we also had fees that went up for some of the elements of the project, so that was a big part of the cost increase, and this was -- the overall tight that's before you is the budget increase up to $184 million. i also wanted to comment that we're working very closely with mission rock, and they're
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finding subcontracts, but they need to have this signed in order to get that park going. this is a really critical time for the project. next slide, please. in looking at this budget increase, the table shown before you is sort of scenario reviews that we did in determining how we might be impacted. what's shown here are nominal impacts to the port over periods of the 75 year phases. i'm going to take you through scenarios just to remind you of what we reviewed. on the far left-hand side of the table shows you the 2019 results. then, we went through and did different scenarios to see how different decisions might
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impact the port. we know how much land values were for phase. we know how much our first bond issuance was, and we also have projections for what we think land values might be in the future. so that's scenario one, just if we did nothing else, this is what the value of the ports would be. a decrease in n.p.v. and an increase in nominal dollars, and the reason the nominal dollars goes up, we have this funny divergence that happens because this model is over such a long period of time. then, we went over future scenarios. we don't have enough money, but let's build it all in phase one, and that was a real detriment to us, so that's why we're proposing this sequencing with land values that are going
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to come in on phase two. this next scenario, 2-b shows the cost that we're proposing, but maybe we don't see the delivery of the park that we all really enjoy and want to see in sight. the next scenario is three. this shows us building the park, and we see a better revenue outcome so long as we work on some solutions in phase two to align with that park. and then, the last scenario is showing a better market. we have some ideas of where office lease rates are going to go, but we don't know exactly, and when phase two comes along, there is a chance for us to recover more than what we're
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modelling. we know that this is sort of an incremental discussion that we're having now, but phase two, as phil was mentioning, will come back to the port not later than next year unless mission rock faces financial penalties, and then, we'll have better scenario planning with better updates for the project. the proposal that's before you today is to increase the budget from 145 million to 184 million, and to allow that sequencing of the park with those other portions coming a bit later. we did take this presentation to the s.a.c., and they were supportive of that sequencing to better match those costs and the revenue coming in so long as they get that beautiful park
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and have that inland portion of the park open. we talked about amenities that would be place in the park, the bay trail and sort of amenities that folks will expect when they come to a really spectacular park like they really expect to be. that's the end of the presentation, and i see that fran and jeremy are here from the mission rock team to answer with any details that i don't have. >> president brandon: thank you, commissioners. i don't see any questions, so can i get a motion? >> i so move. >> second. >> president brandon: [inaudible] members of the public who are joining us on the phone -- commissioner
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adams, can you please go on mute? >> vice president adams: what's that? >> president brandon: please mute. jennifer will be our operator and is on the phone for anyone to provide public comment. >> clerk: thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open up the queue for minute who would like to make public comment on item 10-a. please dial star, three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when you can make public comment, and others' lines will be remain muted until it is their turn to comment. >> president brandon: thank you, jennifer. is there anyone on the line wishing to make public comment? >> clerk: president brandon, at
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this time, there are no public caller on the line. >> president brandon: seeing no callers on the line. public comment is closed. commissioner woo ho? >> commissioner woo ho: thank you, rebecca and phil, for this presentation. and i know we've discussed this budget inseveral times, and i -- budget increase several times, and i like that you continue to explain why we need that increase in lease for phase one. on your presentation today, i guess i want to understand and unfortunately, i'm looking at your slides on my phone. i don't know what's wrong with my laptop, but it's not working at the moment. so the revised budget and port revenue scenarios, so what we're approving today is which
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scenario? >> thank you for clarifying that, commissioner. i can answer that one. it is the do, do, do, do -- the cost increase. so it is item 2-b, and then, when we come back to you with phase two item -- we will have information that reflects scenario three or scenario four or something else, if that makes sense, so the end water portions of the park, we need to come back to you and show you we either have land value to pay for it or we have to do some sort of a tax revenue swap swap -- swap to pay for it, and then, when we come back, we'll tell you if we're in phase three, four, or some other indication. >> commissioner woo ho: when we put this together in 2019, we
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thought it was 190 million, and now, the projection is, less park, is that we have recouped, with some of the other savings, that we're not off by more than 9 million at this time but that's also because of the less park, is that correct? >> that's correct, but we are absolutely committed to doing the park, so one of those two scenarios, either three or four, will get us on the whole park. >> commissioner woo ho: got it. this is not hitting us on an economic feasibility of the park because we're going to see
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the park. we are going to hopefully request some modelling that we can see how you model that overtime so we can potentially understand what we're anticipating rather than waiting for you to present all of the cost increases at the deadline, which is december 22. we know these are models, and not proposals, but we want to make sure we maintain some economic and financial feasible on the part port. it's just to keep us ahead of what's going to happen and not to wait until december 22 to
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know what phase two is going to be. this is just modelling scenarios that i'm requesting. >> thank you, commissioner. we can do that, for sure. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. that's the extent of my questions and comments. >> president brandon: thank you. >> commissioner gilman: thank you for the presentation. i asked them [inaudible]. >> president brandon: okay. thank you very much. commissioner burton? >> commissioner burton: no comment. >> president brandon: thank you. [inaudible] >> vice president adams: thank you, president brandon. i just wanted to say, phil and rebecca, great presentation. nice seeing you, fran. just seeing this project, it seems like the money is always variable, and it seems like it continues to float up, but we've got to do what we've got
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to do to continue to see this thing out, and i suspect it will constantly change until we get it to completion. we have a set number, [inaudible] i'm supportive. thanks. >> president brandon: thank you very much for the presentation, and i just wanted to thank commissioner woo ho for asking most of my questions. i just wanted to make a comment, and that is right now, we are a little over 6% of l.b.e.s, and that you guys have made a proposal to 60 million,
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but it is not a commitment. hopefully through the extensio of this project, we can make a commitment to 60% of l.b.e.s on this project. so happy to see the building is actually going up, and also, the fact that the project is going to -- so well that you are doing so much to try and put l.b.e.s in line and ready for contracting opportunities, so i just want to thank you for the outreach and the commitment you have made today on that, so thank you. i think with that, no madam speaker questions. paul, can we have a roll call vote in. >> clerk: yes. [roll call]
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>> president brandon: so resolution 21-33 is adopted. >> thank you. >> president brandon: next item, please. >> clerk: item 10-b, request approval of a resolution establishing a licensed vending pilot program on port property, adopting associated regulations, and delegating implementation authority to the executive director. this is resolution 21-34. >> good evening, commissioners. boris delepin. can you hear me? >> clerk: yes. >> the item before you is a follow up to our june and july hearings related to the regulation on sidewalk building
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on port property. today, we're asking your approval as proposed in exhibit one of your report. this includes delegation of your authority to the executive director to create and revise administration regulations that implement the guidelines to find in the precisional standards. it's included as attachment c of your report. next slide, please. could you actually jump to the following slide, as well. by way of background, as we discussed in the past, senate bill 946, the safe sidewalk vending act, decriminalized
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sidewalk vending. it's been a long road to get to this point. in february, working with the city administrator's office, we convened an interagency working group that culminated in the development of the worker vendor regulation ordinance introduced by supervisor peskin on may 18. we brought that to you in june and it was heard by the land use committee in board of supervisors and regulated for
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approval on june 12. mayor london breed signed the ordinance into law last wednesday, and the ordinance and pilot program will become effective 30 days after the mayor's signature on september 3. next slide, please. it brings our existing code into compliance with s.b. 946. it reveals police code sections not compliant with state law and establishes a permit program for vending on port property. it authorizes the port commission to adopt time, manner requirements for the program, and i'll turn it over to mr. martin for presentation on port and administrative requirements. >> good evening, commissioners. mike martin, assistant port director. so here, i wanted to go through
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sort of the basic structure of the program. i think the goal was to be straightforward and keep the barriers to entry as low as possible, so we're proposing, as we discussed last time, a $100 port vendor permit fee. we'll reassess that over time over the first year of operation to see how that's achieving recovery of our costs. the permits -- the port permit will also require vendors and sellers to get the underlying permit to secure their process, and if they're using a heat source, the required permit from the fire department. next slide, please.
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we will be [inaudible] that hasn't changed since our last presentation to you. we're looking to provide up to three vendors per location, depending on sidewalk width and ability for there to be free circulation in the area. we'll identify these by painting -- marking the pavement so it's collar where -- clear where these approved vendor locations would be. we're going to start out aa first come first served basis and we also worked with acbc to the extent they're in their jurisdiction, and we expect to have that feedback in place before we move ahead with the program. next slide, please. enforcement actions, administrative fines and citation amounts are limited under s.b. 946 to these amounts shown here on the table, so we've incorporated that into your program, as well.
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our goal is to continue our work with our city agency partners, the police department, and the fire department, to have sort of a multiagency approach to this to make sure that people are complying and keeping the public safe, but obviously, we need to have our enforcement ability to our own program, so we'll be add that go to the menu -- adding that to the men for the enforcement strategy. the goal here is outreach, education, and technical assistance, so once the contract is in place.
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obviously, our program, we want to move forward and don't want to violate any of our existing programs. so we're in a good position in making sure that that adds to the amenities on the waterfront. we'll see how things play out and then initiate a space allocation process as sort of demand for spaces increases to make sure that people have at getting a key location that they want to vendtheir merchandise or food, and then we're adding good neighbor requirements, so looking out for making sure that the program is a success so
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hopefully those pieces together will help us to have a successful launch and move forward. next slide, please. so today, we're asking you to adopt the proposed resolution. if it's approved, we'll move ahead to complete the contract, prepare program documentation, take all other steps when the project is implemented at the end of 2021 and we think it's a
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great program, so with that, i'll close our presentation and ask for your approval. >> president brandon: thank you. i'll take a motion and a second. >> so moved. >> second. >> president brandon: now we'll go to public comment. for members of the public who would like to provide public comment, jennifer will provide instruction for providing public comment. >> clerk: thank you. please dial star, three to make public comment. comments will be limited to three minutes per person.
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the queue is now open. >> president brandon: thank you. please provide the first public caller to provide public comment. >> clerk: thank you, president brandon. we currently have three callers on the line. thank you. opening the next line. >> yes. brian hayes. i just want to tell you folks i've been listening since 3:00 or 3:15. i'm so impressed with these
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people. i know we can't have you coming in, but we're sending air hugs. i thank you for proposing this resolution and cleaning up the waterfront with 200-plus vendors, so thank you very much for your leadership, and i really appreciate it. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> clerk: thank you. >> good evening, president brandon, vice president adams, and the commission. i'll be brief. on behalf of the entire fisherman's wharf district, we
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are over 100% in support of this pilot program. i really want to extend my thanks. i know it's been a huge, heavy lift on the part of, you know, everybody, but to you, the port commissioners, thank you, port staff going forward, director mike martin, joe riley, supervisor peskin, lee hepner, and my assistant for her tireless efforts. i'd like to thank my primary partner [inaudible] who had to jump off for her other job as a mom, but we pledge our support for this pilot project, and thank you, thank you, thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. can we have the next caller. >> clerk: thank you. president brandon, at this
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time, there are no more callers on the line wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman? >> commissioner gilman: thank you. i just want to thank supervisor peskin and everybody working on this. i enthusiastically support this pilot program and cannot wait to see it implemented and anxiously await its results. [please stand by]
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resources to oversee the program. >> i would argue on the whole it lets resources that we're expending now in terms of dealing with the vending and cleaning up after it. the vendors will be required under the good neighbor qualities to clean up after themselves. dealing with the situation on the ground. you know, i think we'll rely on the eyes on the ground we already have who were already out walking in their portfolios and seeing what's going on. so i think a lot of the cost to us to reside in sort of the staff administration and permits as well as the contracting with our technical assistants. so we don't really know what it looks like until we get into it. we'll come back to you and let you know the costs of operating the program are and we can evaluate on whether the permit fee is adequately covering that going forward or not. >> so, right now is there any
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interim steps taken or it just is whoever shows up out there today? >> we're coordinating ongoing oversight with the rules not associated with this itself. parking violations associated with loading in their stuff. d.p.h. looking at folks who are not permitted. so we're not sitting back, but ultimately, this program is the real way to make sure people are complying with the relevant rules and so we think that is going to be a big step forward in bringing back sort of a more orderly use of the sidewalk that would allow people to better access the vendors as well as the water front itself. >> okay. thank you, mike. and one curious thing. we've heard now, this is the second time and interestingly, we have not heard the voice of the vendors themselves. so i guess they are aware that this is coming, right? >> yes. absolutely.
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i mean, we've had staff speaking with those folks. so we've definitely been trying to reach out to them to understand their situation. i think we've got a number of anecdotal feedback about their interest level and becoming compliant. i would say there is a number of them that do, i think there's a number of them that i think will wind up going somewhere else that won't have these rules. ultimately, our goal with the technical assistance contract with everybody who wants to comply will have a fighting chance to do so. >> thank you. that's the end of my questions. >> president: thank you. commissioner burton. >> he's no longer here. >> president: okay.
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thank you. >> i really feel good about this and this is the right thing and to help some people with this covid, it seems like it's continuing. i'm very happy about it and i'm totally on board with it. >> president brandon: thank you, again, for the presentation. i just have one question. you know, i know it's little embarcadero but i know it's across the street not on port property. so how does this work in conjunction with the entire crew who work there? >> i'm sorry, what's not on port property? >> president brandon: there are vendors on the sidewalk, the nonwater side of jefferson. >> so we've identified one
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spot. are you talking about the spot on the south side of jefferson on the map? because that's port property. >> i'm talking about like in front of the that area on the other side. >> president brandon: i'm just concerned with how this entire area was not on port property. >> time place and manner regulations on port property.
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so anyone who is not permitted on port property. so in part, our program. and then they can't just go off port property and would not have the same enforcement challenge. >> got it. and thank you and joe and everyone else for all the work that has gone into this. can we please have a roll call vote? >> okay. on resolution 2134, president brandon, [roll call]
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>> president brandon: resolution 2174 is adopted. >> good evening commissioners. president brandon, vice president adams, commissioners. at the port, i'm here presenting on the pop-up who have been instrumental in supporting me and executing the and relieving and implementing the process. and last but not least tang and moent jackson has been supportive during this process.
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>> as you know. we've been discussing the pop-up the commission authorized staff to release it. in the next month, the global pandemic turned our world upside down. what has become most evident is that open space and in particular our open space is a critical asset for the city to enjoy. as vaccination distribution ramped up and recovery was on the horizon, port staff decided to release the rfq with the goal of releasing vibrant and diverse by activating our parks and outdoor space along the water front. next slide, please. >> however, as we all know, covid continues to be present in our city and our partners will need to honor some community value. one is ensuring we are safely
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engaging the public based on covid-19 health orders and the second value is that we are creating opportunities for small and local businesses and communities along our water fronts. next slide, please. to self-cat georgia their proposed activations into small, medium and large. identified on this slide. we did want to note that small scale activation, we intended for that to not include things like open frame placement, installation of structures or include food or alcohol service so to create a streamline process for these small scale activations. next slide, please. port staff from various divisions collaborated to develop an outreach list of over 125 water front
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stakeholders. this list included organizations like the san francisco african american chamber of commerce. chinatown community development center and some philippine. on may 10th port staff coordinated city agencies such as cmd, oewd, the arts commission. sorry i should say them out loud. grants for the arts and the office of small business and we were able to touch over 10,000 stake holders city wide. on may 14th, we conducted a virtual presubmittal meeting where 21 participanted
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submitted and asked questions. on june 14th, calls were made who registered to be kept informed at the rfq to remind them that the due date would be on june 17th. and, with that, we had submittals due for a 6-week open period. i would really like to highlight that the rq process was managed by our manager stephanie. so next slide, please. so in terms of outcomes, we convened a panel review process from the representatives of the administrator's office, the arts commission and two port staff. these folks reviewed 22 submittals categorized into nine small or medium and nine
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large. five in the small category and eight in the large and as far south as and everything in between. four of the qualified responsibilities while we did not collect data, we know that the small. organizations such as the barrier jazz mobile have racial diversity. we know that gumbo social is an african american owned business and so i have a lot of faith that our efforts are going to pro mote for small and local
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businesses. i'd like to highlight opportunities we see. the fisherman's war of is proposing fisherman's war of of. the bay area jazz mobile in the top right corner is an opportunity for us to activate along several locations in the summer months coming into action which is a nonprofit that's heavily engaged in our southern water front to activate heron's head park. there are other opportunities. i'd like to highlight gumbo social. he has historically been a market vendor and his proposal is to do food competition.
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vending program that we will be watching next month. there was a submittal for activation of the cruise ship terminal both pier 27, open space, the terminal plaza and the parking lot. we want to be very supportive of that industry coming back to life, so just making sure we're coordinated there. and then, on, pier 30, 32 which has hosted many of our large events saw a lot of interest from the respondents and we want to recognize that there's a lot to be -- there's a lot of work to be done in engaging the community around there. next slide, please. in terms of next steps, there were several responsibilities that requested or indicated that a fee waiver or a fee waiver would benefit their activation and so we will be reviewing those proposals more in depth. we will be sending out a survey to those who registered to be
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informed about the rq, but did not submit to the rfq to understand what the barriers were to their participation and see what feedback we get to incorporate it in any potential rfqs we might release in the future. we've been in communication with those that indicated a september october activation target and then all the other respondents, we will be getting into conversations with in starting out licensing vehicles for all the activation. in terms of community engagement, we will be at the southern water front advisory committee on august 25th and the northern water front advisory committee on september 15th and, in terms of targeted engagement, we want to we really want to dive in a little bit deeper to understand
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the community values and concerns and we want to ensure that a community program incorporates community values that comes out of that process and supports our strategy for the 3032 development project. in terms of heron's head park, as you know the eco center is managed by the recreation and parks department and there is a heron's head advisory group that advises the port and we want to be in alignment with them and that asset. next slide, please. that's the end of my presentation. i'm happy to answer any questions you may have for me. thank you so much. >> president brandon: thank you so much for that presentation. we will now open the phone lines to take public comment on item 10c for members of the public who are joining us on the phone. jennifer will be our operator
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and provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> clerk: thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on item 10c. please press star 3 if you'd like to make public comment. the system will let you know when the line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. the queue is now open. >> president brandon: thank you, jennifer, do we have anyone on the line? >> clerk: president brandon, we have one caller on the line. thank you. >> hello. hi. this is jess martin. i'm a resident of mission bay.
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i'm particularly interested in the area by the pier 52, the boat ramp that i'm part of the committee that is in charge of enhancing the bay and for the residents. i've been living here for 10 plus years and so far that area has not been used for anything. more often than not, we see homeless issues and the city is not cleaning any homeless encampments anymore with covid and now we have two individuals who are placed there and once people passed by they requested them and i believe there's stolen property. and, we tried to implement the
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idea for free gym similar to the one we have in the marina that we fully paid for and installed, but apparently in the midst of our discussions, this area was placed under or was not considered even for a free project and issues that we're facing now. we reach a final conclusion of what is happening to that area because it is unfair to the residents to bear the consequences of inaction of the city and the port authority. even when we try to implement suggestions that were indoors by both students with 300 here
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were other plans for the city. >> president brandon: thank you for your call and your comments. do you want to address that? >> i will look into this and find a response for the caller on this particular area. >> president brandon: thank you. jennifer, are there any other callers? >> at this time, there are no other callers on the line to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. seeing no more callers on the phone. public comment is closed. commissioner woo ho. >> commissioner woo ho: yes. thank you for the presentation and all the other people working on this. i think the idea of activating the open spaces on the water front is a wonderful idea and it really ties in well with
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what we're trying to do on the economic recovery and liven up the economic water front during covid and post covid we'd like to see that the water front activated on the small, medium, and large spaces. i wanted to understand under the pop-up kind of concept is what do we mean in terms of how long is the pop-up allowed to be a pop-up? i think in the past, we've let people come in to the space and all of a sudden, it becomes permanent. it may not be a bad ask and i also want to understand that and how can we make this a program versus an rfq process?
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and i have several other questions but let me stop there so far. >> so in terms of licenses we recognize that there are other coordination we have to do but i think in terms of being pop-up, there are some that want to be present for as much as every day for as much as 365 days of the year. and so we're evaluating all of those a little bit more to see how we can accommodate those
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proposals. >> i think i can help out. i just wanted to answer to commissioner woo ho's question because you did a very good job of providing her context, but in terms of making sure that we don't have a permanency that establishes itself that we don't want to have to competitively bid and i can remember certain uses like when i came to the port like the soccer field and the pier 27 area that had been there temporarily and it was possibly not the best use or we should have competitively offered it and so i think the response to that question is that these agreements will come to the port commission if there's a certain amount of term associated, but if they fit into the temporary, really what she was talking about they would be under delegated authority. i think that's how the execution would work and help me with any details of might of
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missed. >> you're absolutely correct. we're evaluating the proposals to see what falls under the port's general and we're trying to understand what terms might be triggered that would require further commission action. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. i appreciate director forbes comments. i do think when somebody wanted to get it out for one year, that seemed to me like a short-term lease, not a pop-up and i was thinking that did not necessarily match. i do think there should be a policy developed which we don't have to go into the details today, but then you come back to us in terms of what would be delegated authority, even under delegated authority, what is the policy as far as how long a pop-up is a pop-up. because a pop-up normally suggests it's really a very temporary use, it's not a long-term use and so i think we need to have some guidelines and policies developed so we
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understand how it's going to work and that we don't have a situation where, you know, squatters rights, it's like well, i'm here and particularly since you mentioned and i am empathetic to perhaps some of the smaller space uses that they don't want to charge, you know, they don't want us to charge a fee. i would suggest that you think about if they don't wish to and we are supporting that that we need to know at what point where maybe if they're very successful, there would be a point where there might be some sort of sharing with the port if they are. so i think you need to think about those things. i think on the medium and larger spaces, i really do think we need to think about the economics of it both for the port and for the user. so i think it can't be, i would be leary of having a blanket
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fee waiver because obviously there's a reason why these people want to do pop-ups. as you said, a couple cases they're trying to generate traffic to their other locations, permanent locations and in other cases, there may be, they're thinking that they are going to generate some revenue that would be bringing a bottom line to them and so we want to be fair. but we don't want to necessarily say the port won't share in something. i think there is a differentiation between small and large but there is a differentiation on how we do that because to do a blanket policy for a large space as an example unless it's some sort of charity that we would be convinced and maybe you have to come back to the board commission. but those are things that i
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think we need to think about some more, but the general idea of activating our spaces is absolutely a great one. i just think we need to put some guide posts on how we want to make sure it's being used wisely and fairly and also we're sharing in the success of the users here along the way. and, also, i think as director forbes mentioned is that we give other people chances to succeed in these spaces and not give it just one exclusively for too long. so there are other people that can rotate in and out. which i think is what pop-ups are supposed to basically be. does that make sense? >> yes, commissioner. i have taken down these notes and we will return. >> if i can ask for an additional clarification, there may be some that would look like leases and it is our intention that we would bring a
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lease conversation to the conversation if that were something that rose to the top and we would recommend or want policy guidance on, but have the guide posts and the definition and policy development around the pop up program and i just wanted to clarify, i just wanted to put that on the record and make sure i understood the direction clearly. >> yes. i mean, if it looks like a lease, then absolutely bring it to us as a lease. as i said, we're going to leave it up to you to make that judgment call and obviously on certain things, there should be a delegated authority that we don't have to look at everything. but i think that just seems to be, i think we need to flush it out a little bit more. understand it better, but i think the overall idea is to make use of the space whenever we can for lots of different reasons and i think that makes sense. >> thank you and we will work with legal on our parameters on how we can use our improvement
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and make recommendations on how to move forward. thank you so much. >> president brandon: thank you, commissioner woo ho. vice president adams. >> vice president adams: thank you very much. i think commissioner woo ho hit on everything i needed. i think she wrapped it up very thorough for me and i just want to say thank you and i'm waiting for you to come back and this is very exciting and once again, as i said, i feel like we're on the mend amidst this covid. we're doing some big strides so thank you. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you again for the presentation and thank you and the team for all the work that you're beginning to create here. and, commissioner woo ho had some great questions and i think i was also thinking more about the parameters and how
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these hit forward how they would be structured not knowing what they requested to do. but i do have a question regarding, there were 22 submittal minimum qualifications and then there was 17 that met the minimum for 70.something. i'm just wondering the five that were declined and i think there was a protest. can you just tell me a little bit about that? >> yeah. so we and i don't know if stephanie is still on the line. she helped him manage that part of the process, but the spread sheet -- so really, it came down to scoring.
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there was criteria that were set with community impacts, etc.. so those four members, it really came down to their review of the submittal and their scoring and i'm looking at that now and some scores were below the 70 and that was really the biggest factor in them not meeting that 70-point threshold. >> president brandon: right. i get that. >> it's hard for me to say because i, you know, the panel reviewers were selected based on their experience doing special events and the city so
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we really trusted they would apply a judgment in evaluating these proposals and i don't it was really their judgment that gave them the scores. >> president brandon: and what about the protest? >> the one protest felt very strongly he should have scored more than 70, but the package that he submitted did not, the panelist did not feel like that he submitted, he answered all the questions in a way that would provide him with 70-point score. >> okay.
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>> president brandon: okay. so the next step is you're going to figure out each of these we need and then you're going to come back. what's the next step? >> so in terms of next steps, we're going to look at all the scheduling. as of right now, it appears that we can accommodate all of the 17 proposal. there is, you know, i do think that we, you know, most of these submittals can typically fall under our special event license. so we're going to execute, we intend to execute some of those small scale early licenses for a september october activation and then the other proposals that will require more permit review, we will be coordinating that and convening an internal review process for those to figure out what might require
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further commission action. i see mike is coming to help me out. >> i just wanted to chime in and i'm sorry. i should of had my headphones in. for these initial ones, these and so we wanted to get that kicked off while we work through some of these where we have to figure out what is the right share for the force i think the goal of the scoring was to look to people who had experience with the events. who didn't make it through the minimum qualifications or scoring with them. so we're really starting sort of with baby steps with sort of activations that we know are sort of going to bring
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something to the water front while we work out these other rules and so we'll bring those bang to you as we sort of work through those pieces including the community engagement that you heard about earlier. >> president brandon: thank you. and so i guess back to commissioner woo ho's question and that is this something that's going to be ongoing or how is this pop up opportunity going to work going forward. we have the 17 that we're going to look at this time, when's the next activation. when do we put it out again or give others opportunity to be engaged? >> so we don't consider the doors shut at this point. i'm sorry to jump in. you know, i think our goal was to get people in the door to say we want to do this. we want to help people get special events on to port appropriate that maybe they weren't aware of. it's also part of our re-opening strategy. but someone came in tomorrow,
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we would accommodate them just as we have all the time when people come in and say they want to do that. we have a special event regime that you approved under the parameter rate. delegation of authority. we have a formed special event. we know how to do these things on a regular basis. i think the success of getting these 17 events going and we'll see if it's worthwhile to do this again i think our goal is to have a self-sort of reenforcing perpetual motion coming in. see what you guys did and i want to do that as well somewhere else. that's where we want to get to. but ultimately, i think this was a good opportunity to get people to be aware of us and for us to sort of sharpen our game about the different types of special events to come here and what we need to do to accommodate them. >> right.
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>> commissioner woo ho: this is commissioner ho again. i guess under the special program event and parameters, there is probably a special time period on how long that event is and how many of the 17 would fall within those parameters and how many would not fall in because that's the one, while you develop the more detailed guidelines so i'm trying to understand how many of the 17 would fall under the special events guidelines today and how many would not and have to wait for rules to be developed or should we put in some preliminary to say we don't want anybody to have use of the open space for more than x-days as an example. when i heard the request for one year, that kind of makes me a little uncomfortable because that doesn't seem that it really feels that it falls
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within what i consider what we're trying to do here with the pop-up policy. >> commissioner, i definitely appreciate your question. the one year was the full amount of time, but we did not expect anyone to use any specific space for a year straight. the idea was you could get a license for a year to come in every other weekend and you wouldn't have to come in and get a new license for every other weekend. so the special event delegated authority doesn't limit how long a special event can go but it charges per day fees. so ultimately, no one's going to pay for a year's worth of fees where they can rent a space. so none of the events that were moving forward with now are an extended right to occupy any property and we'll come back to you with anything that we talked about earlier that had significant revenue generation we want to understand what the
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commission's feedback is or other community engagement such as it appears 3032. so, again, i'm sorry we gave you the impression there's going to be a potential of a year lease. we're not doing that. we would limit that time and certainly if something's looking more like a lease, we've heard the commission's concern and so we'll bring back to you any guide posts that we think are appropriate because right now this is an information item. >> commissioner woo ho: i appreciate that. that's a good clarification. i guess, for instance, in the old days which we actually did not participate in the circ dusolei and we wouldn't mind them coming back to pier 32 as an example. that would be a pop up because that's only a certain period of time, right? >> that would be a lease. ultimately it's a revenue
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generating opportunity. so at lot a, that was through the giants but we enjoyed some of that during our relationship with the giants. i agree it's a pop-up but not in the same context in the pop up jazz that we're talking about that's free to the public's enjoyment. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. i look forward to hearing more. the guide posts and the policies and but the 17 you're referring to, it's a little bit of a pilot. and we probably will learn things that we might want to modify as we go over time as well. >> absolutely. i think we're listener so sort of better reflect the different
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sort of impacts that events have. i think this is a good information gradsering effort for us as well. hopefully how we manage special events going forward. >> right. and i think also if you could also give us as commissioner brandon mentioned, how can we make this a program attic program so you don't have to come back to us each time you put a request out there. it's self-sustaining i guess is and we're not there yet, but it would be nice to know how that could work in the future and if you could come back to us and let us know. >> definitely. absolutely. >> president brandon: thank you. we really appreciate the presentation and thank you for all the great work. >> thank you. >> president brandon: item 11 is new business. >> i have to come back on revenue projections to discuss port economic recovery and also
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a joint briefing with the sfmta. so many folks are frozen. i hope you all can hear me. okay. good. a joint briefing with the sfmta at a time convenient for both commissions. is there any other new business? >> you're coming back on. does that include parking, right? >> yes. definitely. >> okay. >> president brandon: is there any other new business? >> may i have a motion to adjourn. >> commissioner: motion to adjourn. >> commissioner: so moved. >> commissioner: second. >> president brandon: roll call vote please. [roll call] >> president brandon: meeting is adjourned at 7:46 p.m. everybody have a great evening.
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all right everyone. hi, i'm san francisco mayor london breed and i want to thank you all for joining us today. i want to give a shout out to the folks vax to max. i want to thank you for hanging out and trying to get people to vaccinate because i know you want to go back to school quickly. i don't know about you, but when i was a kid, i wasn't pushing to go back to school on any given day and clearly our children need to be back in school. and part of making sure they're back in school, making sure they're safe. making sure our communities are safe is important for us to do our part and this is how everyone can do their part is at least get vaccinated.
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in san francisco, about 84% of san franciscans have received at least their first dose of the vaccine, but sadly, with the african american community, that's about 64%. with the latino community, it's at about 74%. and we need to make sure that those communities are getting the vaccine because what we're seeing with almost 100 people now in the hospital that most of those folks are african american and latino. and so it's important to us because also, the other issue is that most of the people who are in the hospital, i think dr. colfax has the specifics, but they've not been vaccinated. so even if, you know, i as a vaccinated person gets a vaccine, if i get the and the fact is that person can get sick and end up in the hospital
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and that person can potentially day. this really is a matter of life or death. i understand people have concerns. and i understand that people are frustrated with the mask mandates and all the other requirements. i get it. this has been tough and it's been a long time, but as i have said time and time again just because we are tired of the vaccine -- i mean, just because we are tired of covid-19, just because we are tired of all the rules and regulations and being told what to do, just because we are sick of it, doesn't mean it's sick of us. it's not gone because we want it to be gone. so what this means is we have to do even more and as a result, we have decided to take our case to the public in a different way. if you have at least five to twelve people who want to be vaccinated, we will bring our doctors and nurses and equipment and other resources to you. all you have to do is go
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sf.gov/vaxtoyou. so we'll provide you all with that information. it's important that we make it as easy as possible. there are a number of pop-up locations in the mission. we are trying to make this as easy as possible. and we know and vaccines specifically in the african american community. the fact is we're at a different time where we really need to focus on saving lives. we've not even had six hundred
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deaths even in one of the densest cities in the last 15 months because of this virus. if we go at the rate that we're going, we expect within a couple of weeks according to dr. colfax to lose at least 300 people. that's why we've had to put together the appropriate vaccine outreach team as well as mandatory mask indoors even for those who are vaccinated. the last thing we need that's the easiest thing you could do to support one another.
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we should be so proud. san francisco's a dense city and we had one of the lowest death rates. we all came together in the beginning of this pandemic. we took care of our neighbors. we went we got that last hurdle l, that last stretch. it's like the nineth inning and we just need one more hit out the ball park. and if we all just roll up our sleeves and start to get vaccinated even though we have concerns, we're doing it for our fellow san franciscans. and, so with that, i want to turn it over to dr. grant colfax. >> good afternoon everybody and thank you, mayor breed for your ongoing leadership during this pandemic.
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i want to thank chiba piano lounge for sponsoring this. and, of course, the amazing dph team, the mobile team led by dr. mary mercer. just remarkable work. we have 77% of eligible san franciscans now fully vaccinated in our city. so this is a remarkable achievement and, i think while the next few weeks will be very challenging and we're seeing covid-19 increase dramatically in our city, it's very important to remember that hundreds if not thousands of lives have been saved. we're in a much better place than during the fall and winter surge because people are vaccinated. because these vaccines work. because they keep you out of the hospital. because they are saving lives as we speak. if you are not vaccinated in san francisco. this is not a good time to be
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vaccinated. the delta variant is here. it accounts for more than 90% of our cases now. and it is a highly transmissible and there's emerging evidence that it's more likely that you would end up in the hospital compared to the virus we were dealing with just a few months ago. this is covid on steroids. the difference now between being vaccinated and not getting vax if you do get covid-19, it could be -- if you're vaccinated versus not vaccinated, it could be the difference between spending a few days in your bed at home, versus spending a few weeks in an i.c.u. bed. very important that people get vaccinated. we know that the health officers across the region, recently instituted an indoormandate effective today.
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that is a temporary measure to decrease the spread of the virus. we were at just twelve cases of covid-19 just a few weeks ago in late may and early june. now we're over 200 a day. we need to continue to slow the spread. do our part. we will bring the vaccine it to you. the mayor just announced this. we're doing everything we can. we will work with you. we will get the team there, let's max the vax across the city. 77% more to go. we're doing everything we can to get people vaccinated. the vaccines continue our way out. these next few weeks are going to be challenging. the best protection is the vaccine, the masking, and telling your friends, your family members, your community members get vaccinated today. thank you. >> any questions about the vaccine related stuff? >> if i had told me in my
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family, would you come to my house? >> yes. we can do that and we've already been doing that. so people can sign up and we will be there. >> can people come up and say, hey, i live outside san francisco, it's going to take a long time for me to make an appointment. >> we're really focusing on san francisco's residents at this point to try to get those numbers up and we're coordinating with other counties. so i think if people have other questions, we can put them in touch with the local health department to make sure they get vaccinated as well. >> i'm wondering if you can talk about zuckerberg sf general and the decisions of the supplemental costs of those getting johnson and johnson shots. [inaudible] mrna pfizer. >> so i just want to make it really clear, we have not changed our policy as a health department and as a city with regard to following cdc
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guidelines for administering vaccines. if people have received a johnson and johnson and are requesting a second shot, we will accommodate them, but our policy has not changed nor has it changed at zuckerberg general hospital. >> have there been studies on that? >> yes. so in consultation with infectious disease experts, the decision was made again. if people are requesting a second shot after johnson and johnson, we will accommodate that, be but we're not changing our policy at this point. >> any indication it does improve the efficacy of the johnson and johnson shot? >> i think the important thing is right now we don't have conclusive data on additional shots beyond what the cdc is recommending. but, again, in consultation with infectious disease experts, we do think this is safe and accommodate people if
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they so request. >> break through cases, are they mostly people who have been vaccinated with johnson and johnson or why johnson and johnson? >> so i think really the key point is that break through cases remain relatively rare compared to people who are not vaccinated. that's really important. all these vaccines are incredibly effective in terms of reducing the risk of hospitalization. and, again, we're continuing to follow cdc guidelines whether they are the mrna or johnson and johnson vaccines. accommodating people and are requesting an additional shot. but the break through infections, i think really, i understand the focus on break through infections here, but i think it really misses the big picture. the key reason we did the indoor mask mandate and so forth is because we need to get more people quickly vaccinated as soon as possible. that includes the johnson and johnson mrna vaccine. we will follow cdc recommendations going forward.
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>> are you still administering the j&j? >> absolutely. it's a good vaccine. and we will continue to administer it. we have lots of vaccines available. if people want the mrna vaccine, we will do that. we have the menu and it's available. >> what would you say to people who are tired of wearing masks and being [inaudible] ? >> well, i'm disappointed that the health office, i'm sorry that we had to go to indoor masking as well. it's the right thing to do in terms of where we are right now. especially, our projections are showing cases are going to continue to increase through this month and early september, so we really need to slow down the transmission. what i would say if you're tired of wearing a mask, if you're not vaccinated, for god's sake get vaccinated and get your family and friends vaccinated. >> had is there an now that this delta variant is surging
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and it is so much more contagious, a lot of those sites, they've shut down? >> so we're continuing to work with our other health partners across the city to ensure there's adequate testing for people. d.p.h. has been doing over 40% of the tests that have been administered. so just to emphasize that piece working with kaiser and c.p.m.c. but we're exploring a number of possibles. we know that compared to where we were, there's a lot more home testing available. so we're encouraging people to use that and talking to our partners about expanding testing options in the future. and at the health department, our testing focus remains in our clinics for the skilled nursing facilities and shelters. those are really key areas where we're going to continue to support testing. >> a lot of people are excited to get an appointment online. what would you say in terms of wait times and is the city
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considering those mask mandates [inaudible] ? >> so, again, we're looking at options to potentially expand testing and encouraging our other partners, kaiser to expand testing and we have drop-in testing as well. we have pop-up testing where covid-19 is most prevalent. so if those drop-in sites where people can literally walk in, you can still get tested on a drop-in basis. >> roughly 5,000 tests are being done a day. where do you expect to see that number -- where do you want to see that number? >> yeah. i think testing is obviously an ongoing key issue for us to support cross the city. i don't want testing to distract us from the need to get fully vaccinated. i'm hoping we can mitigate some of the wait times. i expect those to unfortunately
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continue to go up. you know, we're down to fewer than 2,000 tests a day, now we're at 5,000. if we expand up to 9,000 a day, we're going to continue the need to expand. and/or to use those home testing kits and use the kaiser ucsf and other health care systems in addition to look at what the health department has available. >> the city is spending more resources on these mobile vaccination sites. >> well, the vaccine because it's more complex, we will have always spent more resources because testing is a little bit easier. we are going to continue to look at the ability to expand. we can do both things at the same time. but we're at a different stature now. so we need to do both things well at the same time. >> can you expect restrictions
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here in the city and if businesses were to require that you be vaccinated in order to enter that business, would the city approve that? >> yeah. we're very supportive of businesses and other entities requiring proof of vaccination for people to enter the premises. >> and, now, new york city is doing that. they're talking about they want restaurants and venues and fitness centers proof of vaccination. at least is the city considering taking that step? >> we're exploring that. again, right now, we've seen that a number of bars and restaurants and other entities are doing that and we're very supportive of that and encouraging people to take advantage of that policy with regard to showing proof of vaccination at these entities. >> one more question. what goes into deciding if san francisco wants vaccine mandates like new york city. like why not yet? >> well, i just think we're
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exploring the pieces right now. again, i think that the good news is that san francisco businesses were one of the first in the country as far as i know to adopt this voluntarily. and i think it's really trying to determine, you know, in working with various entities is there a need to implement policies similar to new york's or is this going to happen more on the basis of what's being driven in the community. i think we saw that in other situations with the pandemic as well is people, communities are adapting the practices that they know slow the transmission. so we're exploring that. the thank you. >> what do you say about the people that are afraid about the side effects of the vaccine and that's why they don't want to take it? >> yeah. we know and there have been millions of people in the united states these vaccines are incredible safe.
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look who's dying of covid-19 right now, it's people who are unvaccinated. these vaccines work, they're safe and effective. thank you. so i want to thank ned and israel from chiba lounge for hosting us today. are there any other questions related to the vaccine? all right. any other questions in general? >> [inaudible] >> well, what i want to start by saying is the stipulation that i signed with the ethics commission after having numerous discussions, i feel is fair, we worked out an agreement with the staff to address some of the challenges that we are listed in the stipulation and in particular, there were mistakes made. i take full responsibility for those mistakes and i've learned
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a lot since becoming mayor and being in office and as i said in my statement, i made it clear that at no time have any of the things related to this stipulation had any impact on the decisions that i've made as mayor. and, my hope is that over time, i've been able to prove that and overtime, moving forward, i'll be able to continue to approve that. >> [inaudible] >> well, i hope that the work that i've done and addressing one of the most challenging times in our city's history which is not directly related to the challenges that exist in the stipulation. i would hope that my record and what i've done over the past couple of years will make a difference as well as the work that i'm -- that i do moving forward. i mean, it's difficult because, you know, people may look at this, of course, and feel a certain kind of way. i can't completely control that. i can only make sure that i do exactly what a leader in this
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city should do. when you make a mistake. you step up, you take responsibility for your action. you put it all out there and you hope that people will look at it and realize that, you know, you're human just like anybody else and the goal is to make sure that i completely make it clear to the public that at no time in any of these, you know, challenges that existed that, you know, i allowed any of this to impact the decisions that i've made in running the city and it's going to take some time to demonstrate and ensure the public that my goal is to lead this city, to continue to do my job and at no time have i ever allowed any of these issues to interfere with the decisions that i make in this office and i will continue to do that. >> did you believe you were doing anything wrong at the time [inaudible]
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the letter heads regarding the letter for your brother or [inaudible] and do you recognize that those things --? >> at the time that i did them, no i did not. >> and now? >> and, now i do understand that they are a problem and i will be doing things differently. for example, the event, the pride parade in san francisco, i've always had a float during the pride parade, it's just the way that it was covered during this time period was different that how i had covered it before and so i realize that that was problematic even though this is -- the pride parade is not a campaign event, it's not -- it's a civic occasion. it's a way in which mayor and public elected officials all participate, but i've always had a float and in this particular case, there was a mistake made and so we're correcting that mistake. okay. any more questions? all right. thank you.
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>> candlestick park known also as the stick was an outdoor stadium for sports and entertainment. built between 1958 to 1960, it was located in the bayview hunters point where it was home to the san francisco giants and 49ers. the last event held was a concert in late 2014. it was demolished in 2015. mlb team the san francisco giants played at candlestick from 1960-1999.
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fans came to see players such a willie mays and barry bonds, over 38 seasons in the open ballpark. an upper deck expansion was added in the 1970s. there are two world series played at the stick in 1962 and in 198 9. during the 1989 world series against the oakland as they were shook by an earthquake. candlestick's enclosure had minor damages from the quake but its design saved thousands of lives. nfl team the san francisco 49ers played at candlestick from feign 71-2013. it was home to five-time super bowl champion teams and hall of fame players by joe montana, jerry rice and steve jones. in 1982, the game-winning touchdown pass from joe montana to dwight clark was known as "the catch." leading the niners to their
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first super bowl. the 49ers hosted eight n.f.c. championship games including the 2001 season that ended with a loss to the new york giants. in 201, the last event held at candlestick park was a concert by paul mccartney who played with the beatles in 1966, the stadium's first concert. demolition of the stick began in late 2014 and it was completed in september 2015. the giants had moved to pacific rail park in 2000 while the 49ers moved to santa clara in 2014. with structural claims and numerous name changes, many have passed through and will remember candlestick park as home to the legendary athletes and entertainment. these memorable moments will live on in a place called the stick. (♪♪♪)
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