>> clerk: regular meeting, sept 8, 2021. the time is 9:01. this meeting is being held by webex pursuant to the mayor's proclamation declaring a public emergency. during the coronavirus

emergency, the fire commission's public meeting room is closed, and meeting are being held remotely. you may watch live at www.sfgov.org. to participate during public comment, please dial 415-655-0001 and use access code 2484-059-1749. members of the public will have opportunities to participate during public comment. the public is asked to wait for the particular agenda item before making a comment on that item. comments will be addressed in the order they are received. when the moderator announces that the commission is taking comment by the public, callers will be queued, and you will hear silence until it is your time to speak.

when prompted, speakers will have the standard three minutes to comment. please ensure you are in a quiet location, speak clearly, and turnoff any t.v.s or radios around you. item 1, roll call. [roll call] >> clerk: and the president of the commission will now read the land acknowledgement. yes, vice president nakajo. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, madam secretary. madam president, i just wanted it to know if it would be appropriate before we read the land acknowledgement as a point

of clarification, if that's appropriate or not? i can wait after the acknowledgement is read. >> president feinstein: why don't i read the acknowledgement first, if you don't mind, and then comments will be welcome. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, madam president. >> president feinstein: thank you. the san francisco fire commission acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of this land, and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional

territory. as guests of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as territories, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. as guests, we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. commissioner nakajo? >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, madam president, commissioners. in terms of the land acknowledgement that we voted on and approved, again, i have no problem supporting the announcement and implementation. the point of clarity for me was last session, there was a

question of clarity by a member of the public with a question to commissioner covington in terms of research. my question is do we need to do that research as we start to proceed further with this verbalization of my land acknowledgement? i support the spirit of it and we have decided the point of information is that the president's already read the acknowledgement. it took about 49 seconds for that to occur. my question is a clarification question. do we need to proceed with it as written or do we need to get a clarification in terms of the comment that was made for clarification in terms of a concern component that was maybe missed in that? again, i think that might be some time to take in terms of clarification or research, but i'm fine with the statement as read and the implementation. i'm just looking for a point of

clarity, madam president. >> president feinstein: thank you, vice president nakajo. commissioner covington jumped right on her assignment and did the research on her assignment. i believe this is the acknowledgement that is being read by all commissions and boards and the board of supervisors. because commissioner covington is a superb researcher, i would like her to comment further on what it was that she discovered. >> commissioner covington: thank you, madam president. excuse me. i think that, you know, when someone takes the time to come before the commission and ask a question, that we give it some

thought, and the president assigned her research to me, which i was very happy to do. i love research. what i found was mr. dacosta was suggesting that the muwekma be included in the recognition of the various native peoples, and i found that if you were talking about the native people from san francisco down to a little past the south bay, then, the muwekma term would be, you know, totally appropriate, so i think that's the -- the difference. so -- and i did encourage us to vote the last time for the statement of recognition as it was given to us, and i think we

should maintain some kind of continuity with other commissions. i didn't think there was a compelling reason to add to it since we're talking about san francisco, our commissions in san francisco, and the ramay -- ramaytush ohlone are san francisco based. >> commissioner nakajo: if i could, madam president, comment on that. i second that support in terms of our fire commission. just in terms of questions over the last week, i started to check out the other meetings,

board of education, board of supervisors, in terms of how they acknowledge that, and it varies. sometimes, meetings like park and rec, the clerk read it, and others, like the board of supervisors, the president read it. so again, i support that concept, and thank you very much. >> president feinstein: thank you. and thank you, commissioner covington, for taking the initiative to do the research and doing it so quickly. >> commissioner covington: my pleasure. my pleasure. >> president feinstein: okay. next item, please. >> clerk: item 2, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction that does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. commissioners are not to enter

into debate or discussion with a speaker. the lack of a response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. and madam president, there is no one on the public listen line. >> president feinstein: thank you. then public comment is closed. >> clerk: item 3 is approval of the minutes, discussion and possible action. discussion and possible action to approve meeting minutes. minutes from regular meeting on august 11, 2021, and minutes from regular meeting on august 25, 2021. >> president feinstein: thank you. commissioners, any questions? >> commissioner cleaveland: i move to approve, madam collect. >> president feinstein: thank you. and may i have a second?

roll call, please. [roll call] >> clerk: the motion is unanimous. both meeting minutes of august 11 and august 25 have been adopted. item 4, chief of department's report. report from chief of department, jeanine nicholson on current issues, activities, and events within the department since the fire commission meeting on august 25, 2021, including budget, academies, special events, communications, and outreach to other government agencies and the public, including report from operations, deputy chief bryan rubenstein. report on overall field operations, including greater alarm fires, emergency medical services, bureau of fire presentation and investigation, homeland security, and airport

division. >> this is fire chief jeanine nicholson. just an f.y.i. i must be brief as i literally have eight minutes before i have to go inside for the mayor's monthly covid meeting, but i'm happy to answer any outstanding questions when i return. first off, we have a newly nominated fire commissioner. his name is army morgan, and i imagine he will bring both labor and additional expertise if sworn in, so i look forward to that. he and i have played phone tag thus far, and i owe him another call, so look forward to that. in terms of covid, we have 18 members off either with symptoms or a positive test or

exposure. that is down from last month, when we had 40, but we'd like to get that down much further. we currently have 140 members that are out of compliance with the vaccine, and they still have time to come into compliance. the time frames remain the same that i spoke about last commission meeting. you know, october 13, folks need to be fully vaccinated, which means they have to have had their last shot two weeks prior. so we are still meeting with members who have not come into compliance yet. cd-2, cd-3 and [inaudible] met with people last week, and we

will make sure people know what is required and how to go about doing that. we are spending a significant amount of time with d.h.r. to follow this process, with our employee vaccinations. and lastly, as we approach the 20 anniversary of september 11 attacks, i hope to see you on saturday at 6:45 a.m. for our remembrance ceremony at the public safety building. it will be held outside, adhering to all covid restrictions. mayor breed will attend, along with all other elected officials, and we are honored that we will have mr. harry ong in attendance. if you remember, harry ong is the brother of betty ong, a flight attendant on the first

plane that was hijacked. she stayed on the phone for 25 minutes to relay information that resulted in the closing of air space by the f.a.a., so i look forward to seeing her brother and all of you on that day. and i am here for another five minutes, and happy to answer any questions within that time. thank you very much. >> president feinstein: all right. commissioners, questions for chief of the department? commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you. chief, can you give us a little

more information about the discussions with human resources about the people who are not compliant? >> thank you, commissioner covington. i'm going to turn this to chief velo, as he has been deeply involved in these conversations. >> commissioner covington: okay. thank you. i know you have to go, so -- >> good morning. thank you, chief. good morning, president feinstein, vice president nakajo, commissioners, maureen. discussions with d.h.r. have been on multiple fronts. the first is conversations with noncompliant workers, and we sit down with them and outline what the deadlines are and consequences are, termination

if they're not compliant. we'll do that until next week to ensure that every member is compliant. [inaudible] in regards to how the process is going to work, it's going to be a nondisciplinary separation, and it'll be a process just like the rights they have to go in front of the chief of the department for a hearing and to the commission for another hearing, as well, and we're hoping is that we have minimal number of members that are noncompliant at the end of this process. the deadline is the 29, so by the 30, they have to have their final shot. moderna has passed, and pfizer is going to pass tomorrow for the first shot.

j&j still has to pass, and if they're available by the 29, they'll be able to meet the requirements for the department. >> commissioner covington: okay. thank you for that information, chief velo. i just want to express my concern about how we can, you know, be true to the intent of the mandate while, as you know, every member of the department who is receiving any kind of information from the department or the commission, if they're noncompliant, is there any discussion how we're going to

handle a possible flood, because our process is lengthy, and our deliberations are sometimes very lengthy. but the appeal itself before the commission is like a child, you know? everyone has their say as to why they feel what they feel, and i have be hear how any of this is going to be streamlined. >> president feinstein: may, chief velo, i have had many conversations with our city team in terms of exactly what

kind of hearing an unvaccinated member would be entitled to receive, and yeah, i think their office is working on that. of course, there are 177 members, which we can anticipate there will be a large number of hearings. we have a large number of rights in terms of formulating what the process is so it won't be similar to what we have gone through in some of our other hearings in the past year or so. so i will report back on that and then report back and

discuss the appropriate procedure. so my hope is the numbers are going to fall significantly. i know, i think we talked about this at every meeting. it's just -- you know, it boggles the mind that our first responders aren't being vaccinated and placing not only their fellow members but members of the public in danger, and, you know, if p.p.e. were enough, the delta variant wouldn't be ravaging things now, so there's real concern on this front, and i know it's citywide, and i know this isn't the only department. i can assure you, though, i'm -- i'm -- the city attorney is receiving far more calls

from me than he'd like, but we will be back with further discussions as things ripen and we have a proposed procedure. >> commissioner covington: well, we have the firefighters bill of rights, as well. >> president feinstein: yep. >> commissioner covington: which is not something you would have if you worked for the m.t.a. or some other branch of city government, just like with the police department -- [inaudible] >> commissioner covington: i beg your pardon? >> president feinstein: i've sure read that over and over, and if applicability to this is being assessed by the city attorney at this time. >> commissioner covington: all right. i'll just say this. because the commission, because

we are citizen volunteers, i think we need to know sooner rather than later what this process is going to be so they can plan accordingly. >> president feinstein: absolutely, and i'll make that clear, but we also need to -- you know, we'll be taking time from chief velo, as chief nicholson's designee or chief nicholson, and it's been a lot of their time, as well. right now, we're working on the process, but there's full recognition that this could use and require a lot of time to preserve the procedural rights of those members who miss the vaccination deadline. >> commissioner covington: yeah, i'm sure that, you know, the senior staff of the department will do what they

can, but the commissioners are the ones that have to be there, and if it's an end of career kind of thing, then that means that all five of us have to be at that hearing. >> president feinstein: absolutely. >> commissioner covington: so more information would be welcome. >> president feinstein: it will follow. >> commissioner covington: chief velo, was there any other information you wanted to add? >> thank you, commissioner. 798 will be sitting next to the employee, advising them of their rights. their rights will be adhered to, but it's just an expedited

manner of how we deal with this. >> commissioner covington: well, i do understand from several members of the fire department that the union has been very proactive in this and been telling people, get this done, get it get. get that poke in the arm, and i do appreciate the union leadership really taking this on, and as you say, when you've had these discussions, a member of the leadership team has been at these conversations, so kudos to them. anyways, thank you, chief. >> president feinstein: all right. any further comments? i know we -- we -- we -- chief nicholson had to depart, so she will return, but i think

perhaps if there are further questions or comments within her purview, that we should just hold them until she is able to rejoin us. okay. any public comment? >> clerk: there's nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: thank you. public comment will be closed. >> clerk: and up next is deputy chief bryan rubenstein's report. >> president feinstein: good morning. you're muted, yes? >> that was my test run, too. good morning, madam president, vice president nakajo, commissioners, chief of

department staff [inaudible] i am bryan rubenstein, deputy chief of operations, with my report for september 8, 2021. hopefully, i'm sharing the correct slide. so in august, we had a fire on geary boulevard. the process was going very well. the fire truck was on scene, and everything was going great. we had a media account on the bay bridge. did a good job there. we continued with our search and cliff rescues.

you can see a patient being loaded there. continue to help the state out through mutual aid. we have five of our [inaudible] engines out with two site teams. we have a total of 19 members out on the dixie fire, and from the time it would take you to drive to a fire in northern california, there would be a fire department set up bigger than the one you left dixie fire is currently 919,000

acres, and 59% contained. caldor fire, 217,000 year, and 70% contained. you can see what the fire behavior is like on the dixie fire. working for 12 and 24-hour operational periods, this would just be day and night. we had a fire on [inaudible] overnight, and you can see how they laid out the fire water lines and went to the roof there. the fire was contained to a third-floor laundry room. i was actually visiting a fire station. we all do, and i was at station 34, and their rig was being repaired, they didn't have it available when this box came in, and 34 engine, you'll note, is at the end of geary street. they heard this box number, and

they heard the address, and they jumped up, and they ran over. you can see next to the side there, the surf rescue, they jumped -- threw on their equipment and jumped on their bus and ran to the fire, and you can see there is a muni vehicle that ran right over our hose line, and that is unacceptable. we do on going training with the simulator, but that drive said he didn't know she wasn't permitted to drive over a fire hose. we are working to get information out about that. it is illegal to drive over a

fire hose, and it is illegal not to follow the directions of fire at a fire emergency. public information officer has been busy. built a cool kit here where you can go out in the community and do a presentation. he's always helping the community, educating the community to not have open flames. we've had a lot of fires in encampments, and we're teaching muni about fire scene safety, what they should do when they approach these things. we're doing the same thing with police, and we're having a great deal of success here. just wanted to highlight some of our members of our family that had particular hardships, and members reached into their

own pockets to help them get through the day. this sort of thing goes on all day every day in our department. the [inaudible] division has been busy, as well, with 19 crew members that tested positive for covid. using the fireboat, we brought resources to the ship, evaluated patients, and ultimately transported six by fireboat to a pier, where they were then put onto a m.a.c. casualty bus and distributed to hotels in san francisco. they all at last report were doing well. work picks up for our bureau of fire prevention and investigation. over 4,000 inspections, plan reviews, 46.

you can see violations are being processed, where we took in 60 violations, 218 were being processed. this is the result of the number of outstanding or open violations is going down through their hard work there. international airport is busy. they had an active shooter drill, something on going at the airport, and we brought 12 members down to the airport, and they were practicing live fire drills. when we have to close down the airport fast, and they fight fire in the fuselage.

these are just some of the meetings that chief brown have been responding in. we participated in a large nuclear training event. it went very well, and we've been looking at upgrading and improving the training for the mobile command unit. we had something happen in september that we mentioned that was extraordinary. on the third, we had a farrier at d.p.m. that took out the entire system. they were unable to take 911 calls for over an hour, and our members responded remarkably. chief cannon showed a tremendous amount of ingenuity to develop systems never been conreceived so we could capture

their -- conceived so we could capture their phone numbers and respond. there are after action meetings going on citywide, and there are many items that we are currently working on in our department. infrastructure upgrades are currently underway, and that system is remarkable. when we get past the covid fears, it would be worth it to take the commissioners around. i was around when it was first put in, and it was inconceivable that we could suffer this failure, but as we become reliant on technology and systems fail, you know, this one failure of an

uninterruptible power supply took out many systems, and there was a lot of meetings going on, one right after this, one which i'm looking forward to hosted by d.e.m. and that is the end of my presentation today. thank you for your attention. >> president feinstein: thank you very much. we appreciate it, chief rubenstein. madam secretary? >> clerk: there is nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: all right. public comment will be closed, and i turn to my fellow commissioners. commissioner cleaveland, that your hand up? >> commissioner cleaveland: yes, madam president, and thank you, chief rubenstein, for your excellent report. i know it's preliminary, but do you have any ideas about the

cause of the 911 outage? do you have any sort of preliminary ideas about where it may have emanated from or started from? >> it's not confirmed, but we believe there were redundant power supply systems. one had experienced a failure, and when they were trying to fix it, they accidentally damaged another one. >> commissioner cleaveland: so this was basically repair work that was being done. >> and after that, damage done to the preliminary -- >> commissioner cleaveland: got it. it's better to know that we did it rather than somebody else did it. i noticed on the e.m.s. program that we continually have a problem finding beds to take our clients to when we pick

them up off of the street and whatnot. is there any way we can expand the number of shelter beds and any way we can expand the hours of operation for intakes? i notice that intakes are only 9:30 in the morning to 4:30 in the afternoon, and i'm sure there are a lot of problems that our e.m.s. folks are finding or happening are happening after those hours, in the middle of the night, and there's no place to take those people when they are facing their personal challenges. what can we do to expand those shelter hours? is that something the fire department has any kind of influence on? >> we are working with other agencies with the city. we don't control them, but i'll ask chief tong because he's the subject matter expert.

>> commissioner cleaveland: perhaps chief tong can weigh-in on this, or chief dewitt. >> good morning, commissioners. i actually will defer this to our new a.d.c. of community paramedicines [inaudible]. >> good morning, president feinstein, vice president nakajo, and commissioners. [inaudible] we've had several meetings with the department of homelessness and supportive housing about this. they are -- they recognize the problem, they are doing an analysis to see what it would take for increased hiring and staff so that they could indeed have longer intake hours, and they are also considering to

accommodate all of our new street teams, having one designated site, if not having one intake. we have had this conversation. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. i know that's an on going challenge, shall we say? thank you, and congratulations, chief may. >> thank you. happy to be here. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. that's all my questions. thank you. >> president feinstein: thank you, commissioner cleaveland. questions from any other commissioners. yes, vice president nakajo, please? >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, madam president.

a couple of questions of clarification, and i appreciate your follow up in terms of cause, and i know you're going to be informing this commission in terms of what's going to be the results. i don't expect it at this point, but when you talked about the fire department responding, but i think they would like to hear more in terms of concerns of the fire system in the county overall. i think a tour of the facility would be appropriate. several of us have been there

before, but myself and the commissioners, i think we would be interested in the cause of the breakdown of the system. never thought a breakdown of the community system would occur, but that really concerns myself as well as the other commissioners, as well. the other thing i wanted to comment on, and thank you, chief rubenstein, but most of my comments are toward chief tong and chief pang. i'll follow on commissioner cleaveland's questions and follow up. chief pang, i'd definitely like to hear and keep in touch in terms of what's going on in terms of the dialogue with the department of homeless and how

that applies. i appreciate the concept that you're looking at a -- i think you heard you say looking at a facility that's appropriate for 24 hours. i think i heard you say the department of homeless trying to accommodate our various crisis teams, and i think that's most of my concerns and my priorities in terms of city and county. we're doing the west we can with these reports, but obviously, if we don't have enough beds or resources, that's the problem. i'm looking at page 4, chief tong, chief pang, and i'll just generically refer to it.

it is very much appreciated, and again, the hours denoted by code from the time it was launched until they launch in the tenderloin, i count one, two, three, four, five, five in operation. six that's going to be tentative or july 2021 as occurred, so i believe we've got six teams out there. and i'm going to move onto page 17, chief tong, chief pang, and

comment the e.m.s. report from july 31 to august 29 is, again, very much appreciated with the number of encounters, and the types on the graph and breakdown. i'm going to refer to page 18, and i'm going to make some references to this page. i always have made -- commented, i really appreciate this page in terms of comments on successes. i'm referring to the comment that says team efforts, leading to emergency family shelter placement. what i like about this report is that it calls out the name of the paramedics and e.m.t.s that went and dealt with this

particular call. it talks about a mother, it talks about a four-year-old child. it talks about not having anywhere to go. i'm paraphrasing, but basically, in terms of our team, the testimony referenced that all of our members pretty much helped in terms of this family to be able to get their emergency care. i just wanted to point out that i appreciate that, as well. bottom of page 18, in emergency room -- in terms of challenges, with our crisis teams and units, as well. administrative burden, the last line on page 18, it talks about the need, but it talks about however, that position has not been filled. at this particular point, chief tong, can you address the point

that that particular position has not been filled? >> thank you, vice president nakajo. sandy tong, deputy chief. we are working on that, but i did defer to chief pang on that. >> hi, there. assistant deputy chief of communication, simon pang. the main thing i have been too busy to get a job description written. i did spend about two hours yesterday working on it. i hope to finish it today, and hope to have something by end of week to show deputy chief mark corso and get that the thing started. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much for the update, chief pang. for me, it's unreal that the

amount of time that you have is overwhelming just in terms of the work that you're doing.

-- the crew funded the hotel room for one night, which tells me that our members are definitely going above and beyond the call of duty. we know the patients and clients on the street, we know that our members have to deliver that, but what else is the care and professionalism and expertise of our members, to be able to go in and dig into their pockets and do that. there's some names that i want to be able to recognize, as

well. i'm at the bottom of page 20 that talks about [inaudible] again, it talks about a mother and a preteen who self-presented themselves to a fire station. the system works. our street crisis response team was requested. they responded. again, it talks about the accommodations that our members provided. it talks about school supplies, talks about providing some care. talks about responding to the child, and on the next page, on 21, it calls out these members, and again, there's a lot of members here, but member jason byrd went above and beyond to secure donations of clothing

and age appropriate school supplies to the child and hand delivered them last week. again, i just wanted to call this out. appreciate all the members of our department in terms of the work that they're doing, particularly chief tong and chief pang. not that everybody doesn't work hard in terms of fire suppression and everything that they're doing, but thank you, madam president. those are all of my questions and comments. >> president feinstein: thank you, mr. vice president. any further questions? i -- i have a couple that probably don't fit into this, but i'm trying to figure out

what we can do, and they're not in any particular order, but i'm going to start, chief rubenstein, with you. am i correct that we had a really serious injury to a remember. i can't remember where the fire was, but from muni running over a hose line -- and i should know the name of whatever the metal end of the hose is, basically incapacitating that person, and i think they were tired or were -- became disabled. am i correct about that? >> madam president, you are -- you are correct. the firefighter's name is matt dan. he's an athletic firefighter, station one, was in front of a

high-rise fire on state street, when a bus moved down the street and contacted a supply line, and all of that force burst the supply line. when that happened, it knocked him off his feet. fortunately, he was taken to san francisco general, one of the few hospitals in the area that could have saved his life. once then, they had to open his skull and perform additional treatment because he was not going to survive. i was very fortunate, he came to headquarters, and he walks with a normal gait, and he has great command over his language. he's in rehabilitation

constantly. that's the beginning of what was a promising career. he's struggling to rehabilitation. his desire is to one day come back, but that was almost a year ago. >> president feinstein: it was almost a year ago. oh, my. and what are the consequences? what does the m.t.a. do about this? i received the same alert that -- well, you probably received far more, but i know that commissioners receive alerts about various occurrences in the city, be they medical, fire, surf rescues, not -- about

drownings, and everything else. just this more than, i received an e-mail about a man attacked on a muni bus, ran to the driver -- this doesn't have to do anything with fire, but the driver kicked him off the bus where three more people attacked him. i don't know the particulars. this is just, you know, an alert, but what do we do to educate m.t.a. drivers that they can't run over a hose? that, to me, is so simple and

so basic, and an excuse that she didn't know the rules, that's not an excuse, and fortunately, we didn't lose anybody else. i don't know what the departmental relationship is with m.t.a., but it's not feeling very strong or good to me, and they seem to be running amok. i remember reading and, of course, getting briefed on firefighter dan when that happened, and if there's no enforcement, they're going to do it again because that's just how it's going to be. tell me what we're doing to try to work better with m.t.a.?

>> thank you for the question, madam president. >> president feinstein: i'm sure you just love it. >> i appreciate the question. so as i said, i was at that incident, and i was the one who observed the bus, and i was the one who called a muni supervisor and the p.d., and i told that bus driver to stop, to turnoff the bus, and they said they couldn't turnoff the bus. and i reiterated, don't move the bus, call your supervisor. after that, she proceeded to move the bus. as far as the consequences go, that driver was cited for two things: driving over the hose as well as failing to follow my direction, which is, again, against the law. our departments are communicating in the highest level. our chief and director tumlin

communicated about this incident as well as other incidents, and i can assure you that the fire department is as concerned as you are. we are currently involved in a training program development for their members. i think you can do more. i don't think you should be able to get on a bus and not know that you're not allowed to drive over a fire hose, so i think this will contribute to that message getting to bus drivers. chief nicholson is talking to director tumlin about that specific issue. >> president feinstein: all right. and i assume if this needs to come up at a commission level, commission to commission, that we will hear from chief nicholson or the prepare

members of the command staff because it's just, to me, unforgivable, and that muni drive faces discipline. they can't have points on their license and what-have-you, but until they crack down, this is going to happen again, i would predict, and it's just really tragic. my second question here is -- and again, i'm overlapping with m.t.a., and it's because of these alerts that i get, and i think it impacts e.m.s. more than anyone else. i could be wrong about that. [please stand by]

while the scotter was moving. i realize this isn't directly fire, but it was e.m.s. that had to come take care of everything. and i'm just wondering if --

chief, i don't know if this would involve chief pang as much, are you seeing an increase in scooters and do people who rent them or use them -- i mean, do you need to have a driver's license? do you need to take any safety courses? because they are abundant. i mean, there is one after the other after the other. and the injuries appear to be serious. >> well, madame president, e.m.s. is fire in san francisco. we're san francisco fire department handles fire and e.m.s., and that's my responsibility. and i do see a lot of bicycle and scooter accidents. people get on them, they're not properly equipped. i'm not aware of any licensing requirements to take those. and there are people -- and i knew exactly the one you were going to talk about. brought it up because that one -- you would think i would be hard to surprise these days, but

that was a terrible call. and as it further developed, it was reported to me that the child did have a helmet on. but, okay -- and a note for the public listening, if you're renting a bike or scooter, you need to be careful, be cautious and use the proper equipment. you need to use a helmet. >> president feinstein: am i correct in my perception that these calls are going up? >> i don't have the statistics on that. chief tong, are you aware of that? >> thank you president feinstein. i'm not aware there is any specific significant increase, we can certainly look and see whether we've had any increasing numbers of those kinds of responses. but i think because they tend to

elicit a page when we have those types of incidents, it might seem like a significant number and it may be that it's increased, but i don't know for sure. >> president feinstein: i'm aware that i may be falling into the, oh, no, not another one because that's what pings on my phone, but it sure seems like it. and that would be helpful to know. and my last question -- here is the last page of chief rubenstein's report. and this is san francisco fire department monthly response to medical calls, breaking it down first unit on scene, first als

unit, first ambulance on scene. in our last meeting we discussed concerns about increased traffic and response times. and i'm just looking at these numbers here and asking for a little bit of interpretation, or help interpreting how this is -- what direction we're going in. i hope that question made sense. whenever i see columns and columns of numbers, mr. corso can attest to, i can get a little bit boggled up here, but, you know, when you look at the, you know, percentages of on-time

presence and the 90th percentile, just to have a little bit more explanation about these numbers would help me interpret them better. >> thank you, madame president. chief tom? >> thank you, president feinstein. sandy tong. so you're looking at the monthly response to medical calls and you're asking about the 90th percentile, what that means? >> president feinstein: i'm just trying to understand the numbers, because, you know, first unit on scene seems to have lower -- or higher response times i guess i should say, versus first als on scene and first ambulance on scene. and i think our goal is 90%, am i correct about that?

>> yes. so each of these categories have a desired time that they want the first unit, the als unit, the first ambulance on scene. and then the o.t.p., the on-time percentage, is the percent of time that it falls within the time response that is desired. so for instance, on the first ambulance on scene, for code 3 -- let's go for code 2, 20 minutes. so 90% of the time, we are getting to the calls within 21 minutes, which is below the 20-minute 90th percentile, which is 87% of the time we're getting to the call in that 20-minute response time. -- time frame. does that make sense? >> president feinstein: yeah, that does make sense. that's helpful. i think that concludes my questions. thank you so kindly, everybody.

commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, madame president. let's see, i just had a question for chief rubenstein. when you say that the driver was cited, can you give us more information about that? is that a parking ticket, or what is that? >> thank you, commissioner covington. i was on scene, police responded on scene, statements from myself and the driver, and they cited the driver for a moving violation of running over the hose and for a misdemeanor not following the direction of the firefighters at the scene of an emergency. >> commissioner covington: okay.

that's -- that's good to know. i'm thinking that in addition to the bus drivers getting this information, i mean, we do lots of videos in the department. it would be great to have a video that we could then give to m.t.a. and say, please show this to your bus drivers. but in the larger community, i think it would be helpful for us to have something on sfgovtv about taking directions from the fire department at a fire scene or any kind of emergency. because the people on the bus may have been complaining and so the bus driver said, well, let me go, whatever, so the more people that have the information, i think, the better things will be.

i was president last year when -- when the firefighter was injured and the chief called me to let me know. and she kept me updated concerning the surgeries that he had to go through. and it was gut-wrenching, absolutely gut-wrenching and so avoidable, you know? so avoidable. this is not your garden hose. there are serious consequences, you know. before you can even react. and maybe our pio can get involved. you know, send out some information to everybody that is on the list there. there are thousands of people on

that list. so the wider the information is spread, the more chance we have that this won't happen again. and i'm very keen on it not happening again. it's a very, very upsetting and -- and as for the scooters, you said wear a helmet. you want to encourage people to wear a helmet? >> absolutely. >> commissioner covington: i want to encourage them to not scooter on the sidewalks. [laughter]. >> and we'll tell you that a member of our own team here was walking home and she was struck by one of those scooters on the sidewalk and it took her out for a couple of days. >> commissioner covington: well, it took her out for a couple of days because she was probably in peak physical condition. old lady like me?

lights out. so stay off the sidewalk. >> stay off the sidewalk, you're absolutely right. >> get a word out, please. >> our p.i.o. has developed public service announcements about how to behave in fire scenes, specifically about not driving over a hose. i'll make those available to the commission secretary and we just need ways to get to broadcast them better, but the materials are being produced. it's ongoing with muni and, you're right, commission to commission communication are well taken and i will talk to them about it. >> commissioner covington: thank you. that is all. >> president feinstein: all right. i'm not seeing any further questions. we'll go on to item 5. commission report. report on commission activities since last meeting august 25, 2021.

>> president feinstein: let me first up, public comment? >> there is nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: all right, public comment is closed. and, yes, vice president? >> vice president nakajo: i'm honored to report that i have concluded our evaluation on the department secretary and i will be finishing that product with an interview with the secretary within hopefully the next two weeks. and the cooperation of our fellow commissioners, and you, madame president, thank you. i wanted to report that progress and we'll report a final date when i do make that appointment and turn in the paperwork. -- to h.r. >> president feinstein: thank you and thank you for jumping right on that, vice president. greatly appreciated. any further reports?

>> commissioner covington: yes. i happen to have been at headquarters on friday when, you know, the systems failed us. and i was very pleased with how calm everyone was and i'm talking about the lack of communication on friday. and i really want to acknowledge chief rubenstein, who was trying to get this information out to the commissioners [laughter] under the most trying of circumstances. he did not falter. he did not waver.

and we got our materials. it just goes to show the stick to itness that the members of the department have. even though systems were not go, everyone at headquarters was, we're going to handle this, we're going to do this. and let's try that. and everyone was very agile. so, thank you, everybody. >> thank you very much. >> president feinstein: and i would only comment on your comment, commissioner covington, that chief rubenstein didn't break a sweat. all right. further comments? from my commissioners? no? all right. moving on then, madame secretary. >> item 6, agenda for next and future fire commission meetings. >> president feinstein: any --

one second, any public comment? >> there is nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: all right. public comment will be closed. and i saw commissioner covington, yes. >> commissioner covington: yes, thank you, this is just a point of information. i have a question regarding these voluminous materials we received some time ago and i wanted to know if this is going to be on a future agenda, because i keep shuffling it around my desk. this is the e.f.w.s. supply system. we got this in, i think it was august. and then all of this. fire following -- can you see that -- fire following earthquakes. and these materials are, you know, over 100 pages each. so, is there going to be a

presentation on these? because i have not read them. i won't read them until they are agendized, because i will forget what i read. -- if i read too far in advance. so just want to know. just future agenda item? >> president feinstein: my -- i can respond -- my understanding is that they were for our information and they provide tremendous detail and, you know, chief o'connor, i don't know if you want to make a comment on that or not. it wasn't -- i understood the intent that it be placed on an agenda and discussed, but it was for educational purposes for us as commissioners.

chief, sorry. >> thank you, commissioners. if the commission pleases, chief o'connor can present the items in a summarized version for the commission as a presentation. >> president feinstein: that would be good, chief. perhaps the notes. because we did get the materials and if chief o'connor can do that, that would be great. >> absolutely. at your pleasure. >> thank you. thank you, president. >> president feinstein: i would like to see agendized at the next meeting a presentation by the department physician as to the operations of her office and

what they have accomplished during this past year on -- since i've been on the commission, she has not appeared at any commission meetings. and we are preparing to begin her evaluation and believe that it should begin with a presentation by her as to what -- what's been going on up there. so, that would be -- that would be through you, chief biello. >> yes. and i'll make sure that happens. >> president feinstein: thanks. i just wanted to give a head's-up, a couple of weeks to prepare. >> thank you. >> president feinstein: all right. i'm not seeing any other hands go up. all right.

we have item 7, adjournment. >> so moved. >> does anybody want to second? >> yes, madame president, i second. >> president feinstein: all right, commissioner cleaveland. >> president feinstein, how do you vote? >> to adjourn. >> and vice president? >> vice president nakajo: thank you very much, commissioners, and command staff, to adjourn, thank you. >> president feinstein: thank you for a fine meeting. >> thank you, everyone, be safe. >> president feinstein: everybody be safe and well.

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track and field, motorcycle and auto and rugby and cricket located in golden gate park, home to professional football, lacross and soccer. adjacent to the indoor arena. built in the 1920s. the san francisco park commission accepted a $100,000 gift from the estate to build a memorial in honor of pioneers in the area. the city and county of san francisco contributed an additional $200,000 and the stadium was built in a year. in the 1930s it was home to several colleges such as usf, santa clara and st. mary's for competition and sporting. in 1946 it became home to the san francisco 49ers where they played nearly 25 years. the stayed de yam sat 60,000 fans. many caught game the rooftops and houses. the niners played the last game

against the dallas cowboys january 3, 1971 before moving to candlestick park. the stadium hosted other events before demolition in 1989. it suffered damages from the earthquake. it was reconstructed to seat 10,000 fans with an all weather track, soccer field and scoreboards. it hosts many northern california football championship games. local high schools sacred heart and mission high school used the field for home games. the rivalry football games are sometimes played here. today it is a huge free standing element, similar to the original featuring tall pink columns at the entrance. the field is surrounded by the track and used by high school and college football and soccer. it is open for public use as

it is open for public use as >> we are right now in outer richmond in the last business area of this city. this area of merchants is in the most western part of san francisco, continue blocks down the street they're going to fall into the pacific ocean. two blocks over you're going to have golden gate park. there is japanese, chinese,

hamburgers, italian, you don't have to cook. you can just walk up and down the street and you can get your cheese. i love it. but the a very multicultural place with people from everywhere. it's just a wonderful environment. i love the richmond district. >> and my wife and i own a café we have specialty coffee drinks, your typical lattes and mochas and cappuccinos, and for lunches, sandwiches and soup and salad. made fresh to order. we have something for everybody >> my shop is in a very cool part of the city but that's one of the reasons why we provide such warm and generous treats, both physically and emotionally (♪♪) >> it's an old-fashioned general store. they have coffee.

other than that what we sell is fishing equipment. go out and have a good time. >> one of my customers that has been coming here for years has always said this is my favorite store. when i get married i'm coming in your store. and then he in his wedding outfit and she in a beautiful dress came in here in between getting married at lands end and to the reception, unbelievable. (♪♪) >> the new public health order that we're announcing will require san franciscans to remain at home with exceptions only for essential outings.

>> when the pandemic first hit we kind of saw the writing on the walls that potentially the city is going to shut all businesses down. >> it was scary because it was such an unknown of how things were going to pan out. i honestly thought that this might be the end of our business. we're just a small business and we still need daily customers. >> i think that everybody was on edge. nobody was untouched. it was very silent. >> as a business owner, you know, things don't just stop, right? you've still got your rent, and all of the overhead, it's still there. >> there's this underlying constant sense of dread and anxiety. it doesn't prevent you from going to work and doing your job, it doesn't stop you from

doing your normal routine. what it does is just make you feel extra exhausted. >> so we began to reopen one year later, and we will emerge stronger, we will emerge better as a city, because we are still here and we stand in solidarity with one another. >> this place has definitely been an anchor for us, it's home for us, and, again, we are part of this community and the community is part of us. >> one of the things that we strived for is making everyone in the community feel welcome and we have a sign that says "you're welcome." no matter who you are, no matter what your political views are, you're welcome here. and it's sort of the classic san francisco thing is that you work with folks. >> it is your duty to help

>> shop and dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges residents to do their business in the 49 square files of san francisco. we help san francisco remain unique, successful and right vi. so where will you shop and dine in the 49? >> i'm one of three owners here in san francisco and we provide mostly live music entertainment and we have food, the type of food that we have a mexican food and it's not a big menu, but we did it with love. like ribeye tacos and quesadillas and fries. for latinos, it brings families

together and if we can bring that family to your business, you're gold. tonight we have russelling for e community. >> we have a ten-person limb elimination match. we have a full-size ring with barside food and drink. we ended up getting wrestling here with puoillo del mar. we're hope og get families to join us. we've done a drag queen bingo and we're trying to be a diverse kind of club, trying different things. this is a great part of town and there's a bunch of shops, a variety of stores and ethnic restaurants. there's a popular little shop that all of the kids like to

hang out at. we have a great breakfast spot call brick fast at tiffanies. some of the older businesses are refurbished and newer businesses are coming in and it's exciting. >> we even have our own brewery for fdr, ferment, drink repeat. it's in the san francisco garden district and four beautiful murals. >> it's important to shop local because it's kind of like a circle of life, if you will. we hire local people. local people spend their money at our businesses and those local people will spend their money as well. i hope people shop locally. [ ♪♪♪ ] from the meeting and excused at