. >> chairman: good morning and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, september 20th, 2021. i am the chair of the committee, aaron peskin joined by vice chair rafael mandelman and connie chan. your clerk is mr. victor young. do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes.

the board of supervisors legislative chamber committee meeting room is closed. committee members will attend the meeting through video conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda both channel 26, 78, 99, and sfgovtv.org are streaming the number across the screen. public comment ask available via phone by calling (415) 655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 24849472191 then press pound and pound again. you will be muted but in listening mode only. dial star three to be added to the speaker line. best practices are to call from a quiet location. speak clearly and slowly and turn down your television or

radio. alternatively, you may submit public comment via e-mail to the rules committee clerk at victoryoung@sfgov.org. it will be forwarded to the supervisors as part of the official file. that completes my initial comments. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. i am still waiting on some last minute amendments to item number one, so can we please call item number two out of order. >> clerk: item number two is an ordinance amending the administrative code march 31st as the annual date for registering fees at auto mated point of sales stations used for commercial purposes, retroactively eliminating fees billed by the tax collector on or after january 1st, 2019, through fees otherwise due prior to march 31st, 2025, for

each business with taxi meter devices, refunding eliminated fees paid to the city, and any penalties paid on such fees and updating administrative fees to conform with the state of california's annual device administrative fees schedule. >> chairman: thank you, mr. young. colleagues, this item does two things. it cleans up the administrative code provision as it relates to how the city by and through our weights and measures function the county in this case, mr. creed morgan with the department of public health administers their job in verifying that various devices from gas pumps to jewelry scales to taxi meters are accurate and so this does a

little bit of clean-up, but more importantly as set forth in the long title read by mr. young, it puts a pause on these fees for taxi meter devices and i'll explain a little bit more why in a second, but i want to thank kate torren and her crew from the sfmta taxi shop for their work and allowing me to sponsor for these measures as well as the treasurer tax collector who's represented today by amanda freed for their collective work that's going to bring some, i think, fairness, a level playing field and relief to our by leaguered taxi

community. ms. torren is not available today as court proceedings over our taxi dime scheme are going on in the civil division across the street, but she's represented by philip crana from the sfmta. with that, i will give a very brief synopsis beforehanding it over to the aforementioned folks which is that the t.n.c. industry lyft and uber are not yet frankly measurable. their devices which are these little things are not measurable by the state and local government as to accuracy and therefore are not being

charged fees at this time and it seems to be that their counter parts not be charged for them either. in addition, the city has been trying to get everybody on a march 31st payment regimen and this ordinance does that along with some other nonsubstantive clean-ups. and good morning amanda. >> good morning, supervisor peskin. thank you for that synopsis. you always make my job easier. california pays a fee for each measuring device. we bill and collect these fees

at the department of public health. and so in an attempt to even the playing field and to be and it's actually retroactive for any fees billed after january 1st, 2019, and would last until march 31st, 2025. the city would refund any so they can be included on the unified licensed bill. this has made it a lot easier because of all the deferrells from the board and the mayor

during covid. we've pushed. please remember to pay that and the penalties were for a day late and then go up the longer you fail to pay. the ordinance also requires the scheduled fee. i know i'm joined today by creed morgan and a cloog from the sfmta and this legislation was an effort by our team offices so i'm happy to answer any questions you might have. >> chairman: i also neglected

to acknowledge lee hefner with my office. mr. morgan, i did not know you were but it sounds like you are running a tight shop. >> i think this is a great opportunity. i think it's important legislation that will go forward and kind of make a level playing field. >> thank you,, mr. morgan. is there anything left for you to say? >> on behalf of sfmta, i'd like to thank you, you supervisor peskin for your leadership getting to this point. i'd also like to thank ms. free

on this important piece of legislation. >> chairman: all right. are there questions or comments from committee members. supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: thank you, chair peskin. you know, i think identify been i've been in city government for some time now and i would like to be a co-sponsor of the legislation. >> chairman: thank you. all right. why don't we go to public comment list and i've got to go to the meeting list. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you, mr. chair. to look at fines and fees and the variants and some of which

make a lot of sense and some don't make sense at all. and i think this is very good legislation and i would also like to be added aas a co-sponsor. >> chairman: wow. we're off to a good week. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call (415) 655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 24849472191 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, press star to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. we have three callers on the line for public comment. >> chairman: first speaker,

please. >> i have been watching city government meetings for 20 years and i think this discussion about taxi meters is boring. city hall meetings have really jumped lately. i don't care about this weights and measures stuff. this has nothing to do with peoples' lives. i don't know weights and measures and taxi meters and supplementals and r.s.b.s. i'm sick of this stuff. i don't really even care. and, by the way, mandelman looks like an ugly rat. >> chairman: you were doing good and by the way this does save individual taxi drivers a significant amount of money on an annual basis.

speaker number two. >> can you hear me now? >> chairman: we can hear you now. >> good morning. david pillpell. i pride myself on being up to date on the more obscure elements of our city government, but this was a little wrinkle that i did not know about so i too learned something. thanks as well to ms. freed, ms. torren, and mr. morgan and their staff for clearing this up. my only question or concern if you might direct it to staff although this is an ordinance that amends the code because there are fees that are waived currently and retroactively that would have some physical impact and i did not see what that physical impact is. i don't oppose it, i just was

wondering what that was and if you can bring that forth. otherwise, thank you very much. great work. >> chairman: thank you. i thought i was going to be able to add you as a co-sponsor this morning but with that last question, i can't add you as a co-sponsor. budget analyst deemed this to not have physical impact. next speaker, please. >> linda chapman. good start to the week i would say indeed. i'm here for a different item, but i want to thank supervisor peskin and co-sponsors for putting this forward to protect the taxi industry. i have to say, one, as a person who is now an older person and also disabled, the taxis are critical to us. yesterday, i actually had to call one to rescue me from the wind tunnels over at van ness around pine and california and

the hotel that's caused. also, i live in a neighborhood in knob will where more than two thirds of the households did not have any kind of vehicle at all and we depend on taxis a lot. you know, i believe that years ago, the city did a real disservice to the taxi industry by putting these medallions that you keep hearing about and promoting uber and lyft. i don't think i have to tell you about the kinds of harms they caused in general to their workers. think of the poor taxi drivers. you know, i'll just mention also, that as you know, those medallions were important investments for conservative investors, city workers and so fords and taxi drivers. my sister's mother-in-law inherited two medallions from her husband and her son drove the cabs and i used to listen

at coalition with san francisco neighborhoods to the woman whom you would know and came and represented the cab drivers. whatever else you can do. whatever more you can do, please do and that concludes my remarks. >> chairman: thank you, ms. chapman. are there any other members of the public here for item number two for public comment? >> clerk: there are no other members of the public waiting for public comment at this time. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. in all seriousness, as to the second speaker's question about fiscal impact in so far as this is a fee for a service and that service is not being provided. there is no fiscal impact because there's no work being done to measure the accuracy of the device during this brief period as we figured out and the state figures out how to

measure t.n.c. devices which is going to take a little while and just so that that speaker knows the amount of money collected on an annual base i've been informed is less than $200,000 per end. with that, i would like to make motion to send this item to the full board with the positive recommendation of the co-sponsors of supervisor mandelman and chan. on that, a roll call vote, please. >> clerk: yes. on that motion, [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: mr. clerk, in so far as the third item is easy and quick. why don't we get it out of the way, could you please read item number three. >> clerk: yes. item number three is a motion

reappointing supervisor melgar term ending september 23rd, 2023, to the association of bay area government executive board regional planning committee. >> chairman: is there any public comment on this item? >> clerk: yes. give me one moment. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call (415) 655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 24849472191 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please press star three to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have been unmuted. excuse me. you have been unmuted and you may begin your public comment. i believe we have two members of the public in line to speak on this item. >> chairman: first speaker, please. >> howdy there.

this is gort or binson and i'm a conservative and a concerned republican here in san francisco. i hold the appointment. she is a [inaudible] go back to mexico. >> chairman: next speaker, please. >> you can hear me okay? >> chairman: yes, we can, mr. pillpell. >> it is. david pillpell. so on this item, i have no opposition to the proposed reappointment. i am concerned that i think there's a typo here somehow. it is the association of bay area governments. they used to be have a general assembly. they certainly have an executive board. i believe this is the appointment to the regional

planning committee. so i think both in the short title and the long title, the reference to the executive board should probably be struck and this is simply the reappointment to the a.b.a.g. regional planning committee. probably not a reference to the executive board. i believe that's a separate appointment unless i'm confused. but the executive board and the regional planning committee i believe are different entities. thanks very much. >> chairman: i would refer that to legal council. are there any other members of the public for this item, number three? >> clerk: we are double checking. i believe that completes the speakers for this item of public commentors. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed.

madam deputy city attorney as to the last speaker's comment on the title of this matter in any advice. >> i apologize. i didn't hear the suggested revision. could you repeat it? >> chairman: mr. clerk, you want to unmute the caller, second caller so he can repeat it. >> clerk: i can go ahead and provide a summary. mr. pillpell believes that the executive board is not should be deleted from this title as it is not the correct title. it should be association of bay area governments regional planning committee and he believes the executive board is a different body. >> chairman: sounds correct. >> it seems like something we

might want to confirm before amending to reflect that. i have no idea whether or not they're different bodies. >> chairman: i'll tell you what, why don't we send this item to the full board with recommendation and mr. clerk and madam deputy city attorney, if the title needs to be changed at the full board, we can do that accordingly then. >> okay. >> chairman: all right. on the motion to send the item as is before us a -- supervisor mandelman, something you want to say? >> supervisor mandelman: i was going to say, i think it may be a committee of the executive board even though members -- people can serve who are not on the executive board, so it is worth double checking before we make the change. >> chairman: all right. we'll get to the bottom of

that. the workings of a.b.a.g. and on the motion to present an item with the possibility of amending this after due copious research, a roll call, please. >> clerk: yes. [roll call] the motion is approved without opposition. >> chairman: all right. why don't we circle back around to our first and last item, item number one, please. >> clerk: yes. item number one is an ordinance amending the campaign and government kungt code to expand definition of interested party to include city contractors and persons seeking influence city officers and combes and to prohibit appointed department heads, commissioners, and designated combes from sliting

behested payments from interested parties. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. i don't know if supervisor haney has joined us or not. you'll recall that last week, we had a good and robust conversation about this and i raised a number of issues and in the intervening week have now gotten the amendments resulting from that conversation that have so everybody will have plenty of time to which is a pretty fundamental which is that i don't think there's any reason why any city official whether they are appointed department

heads or elected officials like ourselves should be able to, in essence, solicit or otherwise shake down parties who have pending contracts before those officials whether it's an elected official or an appointed official or who have a financial interest in proceedings before us or these department heads. i mean, this is not a radical concept. this is i think pretty basic anti-corruption work. and what it boils down to is who is an interested party and the way it's defined which i want to broaden a little bit is that has to be somebody with business in front of that department head, in front of this board of supervisors, so it's not anybody in the world. i mean, if you are spending your time as the head of the library department asking third

parties to contribute to friends of the library, 99.9% of the universe is still available to you, but you can't go and solicit the folks who are installing your metal detectors that just seems like common sense and frankly, this is behavior that is rarely ever engaged in and this notion that has circulated and somehow not receive funds because elected officials won't raise money for them is demonstrably false.

so long as we can distinguish between interested and noninterested parties and we can do fundraising without the corrupting influence of these interested parties i mean, this seems wrong. i can't believe that it hasn't been illegal forever, but parentally muhammad nuru has shown us we had to create a law by way of example if you look at the behested payments over the last decade, you'll see a lot of them are being raised from ecology and you'd be nuts not to consider that recology charge friday some of those

while they manage to overcharge rate payers by one$00 million over half a decade. so a have a series of amendments which i promised that i would introduce that i received from an attorney's office. regardless, theses amendments will require a one-week continuance. but back to the simple premise, no public official should be allowed to solicit or, in essence, when you're in the middle of an rs.b. process or granted a contract, it feels like and smells like a shake down from parties who have a clear interest in influencing our behavior. that's just wrong. this is per se corruption and i don't think we should allow it

at all period. so the amendments i'm introducing today should, one, as mr. ford said last week on behalf of the suggestion of the ethics commission suggest elected officials including the board of supervisors and the mayor to the same prohibition on behesting payments from interested parties as other city officials. by the way, this eliminates the filing requirement for officials which is less paper work for those of us who have previously engaged in this. you no longer will engage in it so you won't have to fill out any forms. i've included registered contact lobbyists as an interested party. i have lengthened the scope of the what constitutes an interested party from six-month

black-out period for solicitation of city contractors following the term nation of a contract. so anyway. take a look at it. let's discuss it next week. i'm happy to try to answer any questions you might have at this time, but we'll continue this item for a week. i see that supervisor chan and supervisor mandelman are on the roster. supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: thank you, chair peskin. and i do want to quickly address some of the nonprofits and i really do agree that this legislation is one key element to good and clean government this really essentially stopped behind the scenes pay and play culture that the entire city government really should not be having from elected officials

to city department heads, but i want to clarify through our deputy city attorney anne pearson around the issues where fundraises specifically about public appeal and how that's a key element to supporting nonprofit and fundraising. >> deputy city attorney anne pearson. is your question for me to tell you a little bit more about what public appeals are in so far as they're an exception to this? >> chairman: yeah. and i actually do want to say there is actual -- there's a reference in the measure that references a specific code section and it's important to understand that communications such as public testimony in front of the board of supervisors are not included in

that, so if somebody comes and testifies for behalf of an item, that does not in any way count and i don't have, i can find the code section here, but communications that involve only routine requests for information such as publicly requested documents are made while attending general information or are made to the press and involves an action that's solely ministerial or a written public comment are exceptions. i'm sorry, madam deputy city attorney, but i meant to mention that in my comments. >> thank you, supervisor. supervisor chan, were you also wondering about the public

appeal because that is a term that's used in the legislation and that's also defined in the public code. when the request is made by a number of means. by television. radio, billboard. through a public message like social media. the distribution of a single e-mail to 200 or more recipients or made in a speech to a group of 20 or more individuals. so that's the definition of a public appeal. >> supervisor chan: and that is an exception in this legislation; correct? >> right. >> supervisor chan: all right. thank you, through the chair peskin. that's all i really want to clarify for especially some of the concerns expressed through the nonprofits. i hope that eases some of the

anxieties. again, i really believe this is a good piece of legislation for clean and good government. take away some of the pay to play culture and the behind the scene and it's good that we extend it to the i electricitied official. and thank you, chair peskin. >> chairman: thank you. supervisor mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you, mr. chair. i guess i look forward to try to understand the amendments over the next week as well. if the chair could explain why. i understand this legislation is not banning the behested payments in its entirety. it's banning from elected

parties. so why would elected officials no longer be filing the behested payment filings? >> chairman: so i do want to thank patrick ford from ethics and as well as supervisor haney and his staff and deputy city attorney andrew schenn who pivoted quickly in the last week. some of the behested payments are requirements of the state law and they are then additional behested payment requirements up to $5,000 under local law, but i am personally happen to file behested payment stuff from noninterested parties at any dollar point pursuant to local and state law, but why don't i defer to mr. ford or the city attorney for an answer to your question

as it relates to noninterested parties. obviously, there would be no filing requirement for interested parties because those would be prohibited. i mean, if you were filing because you were soliciting a behested payment from interested party, you would be filing to show that you had done an illegal action. >> supervisor mandelman: yeah. i think i'm just under the impression that i'm supposed to filing these behested payment filings whenever i'm whether they're urgent or not, maybe i've been misinterpreting the rules. >> chairman: why don't we get a little advice from ethics or the city attorney. mr. ford, are you available? i've always got to scroll down to see who's in this meeting. i don't see -- deputy city

attorney pearson, would you like to weigh in as to what the requirements are for behested payment files by elected officials from noninterested parties. >> my understanding is that this -- the amendments that are introduced today reflect a policy choice to remove the reporting requirements in favor of a prohibition on making requests to interested parties. >> chairman: okay. so my understanding in the conversations in the intervening week with deputy city attorney schenn is that by prohibiting elected officials from soliciting behested payments from interested parties that obviated the sections 3.0 filing

requirements, but if for elected officials, but if what you are saying is that it is a policy choice that section 3.610 can stay for solicitations from noninterested parties, i would be more than happy to keep that. this is a good conversation to have as we proceed towards next week's vote, but we can figure that out. supervisor mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: and, it may be that there are also -- maybe it's just cleaner. there are state behested payment requirements and maybe the thought was rely on those and don't -- i'm not sure, but i was curious about that. i'm also curious. and i don't know but does this get into -- so imagine the scenario of a seawall or a large infrastructure project where there is a bond measure being put before the voters and

are the funds being raised for that behested payments? >> chairman: good question, supervisor mandelman. mr. ford. >> yeah. thank you, chair peskin. i probably want to understand a little more on what the facts are. >> supervisor mandelman: in the scenario, there's a campaign to save the seawall and we have to raise, you know, many millions of dollars for a campaign to do that and so the elected officials all run around and go to officials who might have a dream in their future, they might have some seawall money to be made and see if anybody will put some money in for this ballot measure. are those behested payments? >> payments to a political committee would not be considered a behested payment

under this ordinance. no. >> supervisor mandelman: and, so this really is a situation of that scenario, but with respect to the extra things you would like to get those people to pay for for the departments. >> correct. yeah. if they're not considered gifts or political contributions, if they are payments to an organization for charitable or governmental purposes, that would be considered a behested payment. >> supervisor mandelman: and what is the friends exception? >> so i have not seen the latest draft amendment, so i can't say exactly what that says. i've seen i think the previous version, so i'm a little out of date. so i think i'll wait until later to see that and talk about that. >> chairman: and, mr. ford, just so that you know, this just happened only a few minutes ago, but you do have a copy of the latest version.

>> okay. great. >> supervisor mandelman: okay. i'm sure i'll have more questions for folks going forward over the week. but thank you and thanks for trying to get this right and it's important work. so thanks again. >> through the chair, if i can answer supervisor mandelman's earlier question about behested payment reporting. i didn't quite have a link yet. but to your question about how that works, as chair peskin said, state law requires elected officials to file behested payment report for any behested payment over $5,000. it doesn't extinguish between interested parties or noninterested parties and that will remain the same, we can't change that. the local behested payment reports only apply if it's an interested party. those would fall in, what this legislation would do is you cannot engage in that behavior anymore. but the state will always be there. >> chairman: yay. thank you, mr. ford.

supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: thank you. i mean, i think because of recently run for election, i do believe with our campaign law and code is that if you're running for office or if it's a candidate controlled committee that you are not allowed to actually ask for contribution for contractors or lobbyists. the contractors actually again also have actually pending or intent to submit bids six months prior to the individual to take office and running for office. so i believe that there is already a prohibition for electives or just candidates running for office asking for contribution from contractors. i do think that, you know, again, i mean full disclosure,

i just filed a series of behest payments for our autumn moon festival and that is both meeting at the local and state requirements. however, i do believe that majority of those do not include interested parties. it's just the fact that i personally whether they are qualifying the definition of interested party or not, full disclosure and go ahead and do that, but, in essence, i think prohibiting that all together really helps to just put away some of those -- be it perception and reality to pay to play. so i just wanted to add my comments to that and thank you. >> chairman: thank you, supervisor chan. why don't we open this item number one up to public comment. are there any members of the public who would like to

comment on this item and, of course, it will be before us again a week from today, september 27th. mr. clerk. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call (415) 655-0001. the meeting id is 24849472191 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please dial star three to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment. we currently have six callers on the line for public comment. >> chairman: first speaker, please. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is charles head. i'm the president of the coalition for san francisco neighborhoods. we are very much in favor of everything that you are trying to do regarding to this item.

personally, back in 2014, i was a member of the civil grand jury which was interested in behested payments and the civil grand jury's report that is published online at sfcivil grandjuryreports. our report was ethics in the city comments, practice, or pretense. grand jury rules prohibits me from saying anything that's not published in that report. that report became a basis for changes which are still with us today. and is very much worth reading. but, again, coalition for san francisco neighborhoods and i personally am very much in favor of the work of this committee in this area and look forward to next week's

iteration and good luck. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> supervisors, my name is francisco de costa. this matter has come before the sunshine task force, the ethics commission, and the controller's office, then to the city attorney and now we see there are some method interests that are corrupt who want to circumvent and not go before the board of supervisors. but your board of supervisors haven't followed your own standards. how many times have people come before you after spending more than $10 million and then ya'll have made mention that this

should have come before you, but it did not come before you and giving a slap on the hands. today, this city is known for its corruption at every level, but what is more disgusting and despicable is that the many aids of government within the city and county of san francisco. this is a legislation, an ordinance that's going in the right direction. but we need to have some enforcement. in order to have some enforcement, we have to have the language and some booklet so that the public can read it and understand it. as these virtual meetings

[inaudible] we need it to be put in writing, some booklet as we had before so that the constituents, the taxpayers can read it and be part of the deliberation. thank you very much. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker. >> bow down. this is satan. corporations should be able to give the politicians as much as they want. two people know this but london breed, i own her soul for all eternity. so, please, this is a violation of free speech. corporations should be able to give money to influence of political process. i have spoken. bow before your dark lord and

rafael mandelman is a faggot. >> chairman: you are just beyond the pail. and you keep that up -- >> [inaudible] >> chairman: this is just completely unacceptable behavior. i'm going to talk to the clerk of the board about what to do. if mr. clerk young, you can look at the number of that individual, there's just no place for that kind of behavior in this board of supervisors, in this city, and on this planet. next speaker. >> linda chapman. well, i'm not a lawyer, but i speak as a native san franciscan and the staff from five different federal departments and first, i want to concur with mr. decosta who was a co-worker of mine for the army when we worked for the army at the pro cede al.

you know, we had a government that was not known for corruption in the past. we had a charter that was specifically intended to prevent corruption. so i'm just not used to the pay to play culture that has developed in the 20th century, i mean the 21st century. when i went to work for the war on poverty in buffalo, i was astonished that people from corruption were granted and my friends from boston, it was the same thing. in the '70s and '70s i was very involved in politics. we occasionally came across efforts at pay to play, but they were initiated by developers, by project sponsors, certainly not by the planning commission or supervisors or whatever and they were essentially what would you say, crushed. i have mentioned before how gordon schenn came before i

don't know whether it was the supervisors or planning commissioners at that point because the case was before both and announced that, well, you know, we've been offered the equivalent of a million dollars if you'll approve this and we're not supporting it. you know, if you want to prove it, we'll take the money, but do you want to approve this. and to the people who did take the money, self-help for the elderly was always for sale. they would turn out a whole room full of elderly ladies who believed they were there for the purpose of chinatown. and the developer would be giving them money for trips to the golden gate park, whatever, they were ignored completely. just dismissed, they weren't even there. when an organization from the mission agreed to take money, i think they were probably just

naive about it. again, it was just not going to be part of the consideration and the lawyer tim acosta called me. either your planning commissioners are soliciting money to be given to non-profits and so on as opposed to making decisions. >> clerk: your timer has elapsed. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker, please. and, yes, that did happen. i remember very clearly when the then president of the planning commission solicited behested payments from individuals and organizations that were practicing in front of the planning commission. it was wrong. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors. this is debbie lauren. despite some of the comments about alleged misgivings around non-profits, the vast majority of behested contributions for

non-profits are of great benefit to the city and county of san francisco. we support the reform of san francisco ethics law to increase transparency and protect against corruption and we always want to work with the board in that context. ethics reform does have implications for first amendment rights, charitable giving and civic engagement and we are just urging the board to take a cautious approach and take your time to analyze the nuances and potential for unforeseen consequences in order to make sure that this legislation is right. last time this came up was whether to disclose a ban. we are especially concerned about the significant expansion of the definition of interested parties going beyond personal benefit by saying it's anybody who attempts to influence legislation or administrative

action even with the exceptions in the law, it could include a lot of grass roots public policy activities like rallies or petitions and including noninterested parties would make it even more significant. the danger is having a definition that's overly broad and vague so that it doesn't draw a clear line between what is and what is not permitted and could have a chilling effect on what is permissible and desirable fundraising and most significantly for us, we have many wonderful non-profit who serve and we want to make sure it's mitigated so it doesn't force them to choose between public service and their responsibility to their organizations through their day jobs where they need to raise money, city organizations, and ensure donor confidentiality

and thank you for considering these comments. >> chairman: yeah. i'm happy to look at those definitions with you and my staff in the intervening week, but i think the fundamental notion of interested parties contributing to folks who are at decision-making capacity during the pendency of a contract or license is a no-brainer, but i'm happy to look at those definitions and see if they need to be tightened up. next speaker, please. >> can you hear me now? >> chairman: yes. we can. >> david pillpell again. so thank you for answering my earlier questions on items two and three. the a.b.a.g. websites suggested that supervisor mandelman and mar are on the board with supervisor ronen and on the regional planning committee. i know.

>> chairman: no. >> in any event, i assume you'll straighten that out. on this matter, i look forward to the agreement and we will need clear guidance with ethics with examples and scenarios distributed to all board and commission. members, department heads, campaign consultants, lobbyists, friends of groups, political committees and i would require existing board and commission members and department heads to sign an acknowledgement form that they have received, read, and understand the new requirements. i would encourage the city attorney to update the good government guide and finally, i'm hoping that the refuge working group will meet again sometime today. that's all i have on this right now. thanks. >> chairman: thank you. are there any other members of the public for public comment on this item number one? >> clerk: that completes our list of public comment callers.

>> chairman: thank you, mr. young. so, colleagues, what i think we should do is so we can have them be in the file is that we should adopt the amendments so we can discuss them next week and get public comment on them and in the intervening week, i will work with folks we have heard from and anybody that we heard from on any amendments to those amendments if necessary. so i would like to move the amendments and, of course, the underlying chief sponsor of this matter is supervisor haney who is also in receipt of these amendments. he is not on the call this morning, but i'm sure we will hear from him in the intervening week. i can talk to him because he is not a member or a quorum of this committee and we'll endeavor to do so. on the motion, mr. clerk, a

roll call, please. >> clerk: on the motion to amend, [roll call] the motion is adopted without objection. >> chairman: all right. and, that concludes our -- >> clerk: chair [inaudible] >> chairman: i will make a motion to continue this item one week to september 27th as amended and, on that, a roll call, please, thank you, mr. young. >> clerk: yes. on that motion, [roll call] the motion passes without objection. we have one more thing that we'd like to bring up before we adjourn. >> chairman: mr. young. >> clerk: yes. i'd like to call on our deputy director samara, she'd like to

provide comment on a.b.a.g. if you don't mind. >> chairman: why don't we then re-open item number -- >> clerk: oh, yes. please do. >> chairman: well, it's up to you. >> clerk: you can re-open, but we do not need to rescind the vote or anything like. >> chairman: all right. call item number three for informational purposes. >> hi, members of the committee alisa samara the lead deputy. i would just like to clarify the comments for a previous caller about the regional planning committee. i did call a.b.a.g. and they have confirmed that is a correct title. it's a committee under the executive board. so the motion and the title is correct. >> chairman: all right. yet another example of the clerk of the board of supervisors not ever making a mistake ever and that, thank you ms. amara, concludes the rules committee meeting for

today, september 20th. we are adjourned.

>> we are right now in outer richmond in the last business area of this city. this area of merchants is in the most western part of san francisco, continue blocks down the street they're going to fall into the pacific ocean. two blocks over you're going to have golden gate park. there is japanese, chinese, hamburgers, italian, you don't have to cook. you can just walk up and down the street and you can get your cheese. i love it. but the a very multicultural place with people from everywhere. it's just a wonderful environment. i love the richmond district. >> and my wife and i own a café we have specialty coffee drinks, your typical lattes and mochas and cappuccinos, and for

lunches, sandwiches and soup and salad. made fresh to order. we have something for everybody >> my shop is in a very cool part of the city but that's one of the reasons why we provide such warm and generous treats, both physically and emotionally (♪♪) >> it's an old-fashioned general store. they have coffee. other than that what we sell is fishing equipment. go out and have a good time. >> one of my customers that has been coming here for years has always said this is my favorite store. when i get married i'm coming in your store. and then he in his wedding outfit and she in a beautiful dress came in here in between getting married at lands end and to the reception, unbelievable.

(♪♪) >> the new public health order that we're announcing will require san franciscans to remain at home with exceptions only for essential outings. >> when the pandemic first hit we kind of saw the writing on the walls that potentially the city is going to shut all businesses down. >> it was scary because it was such an unknown of how things were going to pan out. i honestly thought that this might be the end of our business. we're just a small business and we still need daily customers. >> i think that everybody was on

edge. nobody was untouched. it was very silent. >> as a business owner, you know, things don't just stop, right? you've still got your rent, and all of the overhead, it's still there. >> there's this underlying constant sense of dread and anxiety. it doesn't prevent you from going to work and doing your job, it doesn't stop you from doing your normal routine. what it does is just make you feel extra exhausted. >> so we began to reopen one year later, and we will emerge stronger, we will emerge better as a city, because we are still here and we stand in solidarity with one another. >> this place has definitely been an anchor for us, it's home

for us, and, again, we are part of this community and the community is part of us. >> one of the things that we strived for is making everyone in the community feel welcome and we have a sign that says "you're welcome." no matter who you are, no matter what your political views are, you're welcome here. and it's sort of the classic san francisco thing is that you work with folks. >> it is your duty to help everybody in san francisco. >> ♪♪ ♪♪ we are definitely pioneers in airport concession world a world

of nationally if not entirely or internationally >> everybody is cop us right now. >> the people that were in charge of the retail this is where that began. >> i didn't think we would have a location at the airport. >> we've set the bar higher with the customer commerce. >> telling me about the operator and how you go about finding them and they get from being in the city to being in the airport. >> so first, we actually find a table and once we know what we want a sit-down we go to the neighborhoods in san francisco and other people seminary of the retail let us know about the rain water and are excited to have the local operators in the

airport. >> we have to go going through the conceive selective process and they award a lease to the restaurant. >> they are planning on extending. >> we that you could out the china and the length evens and the travel serve and fourth your minds and it's all good. >> how long for a vendor to move through the process. >> i would say it could take 80 up to a year from the time we go out to bid until they actually open a restaurant. >> i don't know what we signed up for but the airport is happy to have us here. and, you know, even taking out the track simple things there's a learning curve >> with once we're here they

are helpful. >> it's an award-winning program. >> we're prude of your awards we have won 11 awards the latest for the best overall food address beverage program and . >> like the oscars (laughter). >> the professional world. >> tell me about the future food. >> all the sb national leases are xooirz and we're hoping to bring newer concepts out in san francisco and what your passengers want. >> well, i look forward to the future (laughter) air are we look fofofofofofofofo

[♪♪♪] ♪ homelessness in san francisco is considered the number 1 issue by most people who live here, and it doesn't just affect neighbors without a home, it affects all of us. is real way to combat that is to work together.

it will take city departments and nonprofit providers and volunteers and companies and community members all coming together. [♪♪♪] >> the product homeless connect community day of service began about 15 years ago, and we have had 73 of them. what we do is we host and expo-style event, and we were the very force organization to do this but it worked so well that 250 other cities across the globe host their own. there's over 120 service providers at the event today, and they range anywhere from hygiene kits provided by the basics, 5% -- to prescription glasses and reading glasses, hearing tests, pet sitting, showers, medical services, flu shots, dental care, groceries, so many phenomenal service providers, and what makes it so

unique is we ask that they provide that service today here it is an actual, tangible service people can leave with it. >> i am with the hearing and speech center of northern california, and we provide a variety of services including audiology, counselling, outreach, education, today we actually just do screening to see if someone has hearing loss. to follow updates when they come into the speech center and we do a full diagnostic hearing test, and we start the process of taking an impression of their year, deciding on which hearing aid will work best for them. if they have a smart phone, we make sure we get a smart phone that can connect to it, so they can stream phone calls, or use it for any other services that they need. >> san francisco has phenomenal social services to support people at risk of becoming homeless, are already experience and homelessness, but it is confusing, and there is a lot of waste. bringing everyone into the same space not only saves an average of 20 hours a week in navigating the system and waiting in line for different areas, it helps them talk, so if you need to

sign up for medi-cal, what you need identification, you don't have to go to sacramento or wait in line at a d.m.v., you go across the hall to the d.m.v. to get your i.d. ♪ today we will probably see around 30 people, and averaging about 20 of this people coming to cs for follow-up service. >> for a participant to qualify for services, all they need to do is come to the event. we have a lot of people who are at risk of homelessness but not yet experiencing it, that today's event can ensure they stay house. many people coming to the event are here to receive one specific need such as signing up for medi-cal or learning about d.m.v. services, and then of course, most of the people who are tender people experiencing homelessness today. >> i am the representative for the volunteer central. we are the group that checks and all the volunteers that comment participate each day. on a typical day of service, we have anywhere between 40500 volunteers that we, back in,

they get t-shirts, nametags, maps, and all the information they need to have a successful event. our participant escorts are a core part of our group, and they are the ones who help participants flow from the different service areas and help them find the different services that they needs. >> one of the ways we work closely with the department of homelessness and supportive housing is by working with homeless outreach teams. they come here, and these are the people that help you get into navigation centers, help you get into short-term shelter, and talk about housing-1st policies. we also work very closely with the department of public health to provide a lot of our services. >> we have all types of things that volunteers deal do on a day of service. we have folks that help give out lunches in the café, we have folks who help with the check in, getting people when they arrive, making sure that they find the services that they need to, we have folks who help in the check out process, to make sure they get their food bag,

bag of groceries, together hygiene kit, and whatever they need to. volunteers, i think of them as the secret sauce that just makes the whole process works smoothly. >> participants are encouraged and welcomed to come with their pets. we do have a pet daycare, so if they want to have their pets stay in the daycare area while they navigate the event, they are welcome to do that, will we also understand some people are more comfortable having their pets with them. they can bring them into the event as well. we also typically offer veterinary services, and it can be a real detriment to coming into an event like this. we also have a bag check. you don't have to worry about your belongings getting lost, especially when that is all that you have with you. >> we get connected with people who knew they had hearing loss, but they didn't know they could get services to help them with their hearing loss picks and we are getting connected with each other to make sure they are getting supported. >> our next event will be in march, we don't yet have a date set. we typically sap set it six weeks out.

the way to volunteer is to follow our newsletter, follow us on social media, or just visit our website. we always announce it right away, and you can register very easily online. >> a lot of people see folks experience a homelessness in the city, and they don't know how they can help, and defence like this gives a whole bunch of people a lot of good opportunities to give back and be supported. [♪♪♪].

>> shop and dine the 49 promotes loophole businesses and changes residents to do thirds shopping and diane within the 49 square miles of san francisco by supporting local services we help san francisco remain unique and successful where will you shop and dine shop and dine the 49. >> my name is neil the general manager for the book shop here on west portal avenue if san francisco this is a neighborhood bookstore and it is a wonderful neighborhood but it is an interesting community because the residents the neighborhood muni loves the neighborhood it is community and we as a book sincerely we see the same people here the shop all the time and you know to a certain degree this is part

of their this is created the neighborhood a place where people come and subcontract it is in recent years we see a drop off of a lot of bookstores both national chains and neighborhoods by the neighborhood stores where coming you don't want to - one of the great things of san francisco it is neighborhood neighborhood have dentist corrosive are coffeehouses but 2, 3, 4 coffeehouses in month neighborhoods that are on their own- that'syou.

>> what do you think about working at an airport and i love it is busy all the time. >> we want it to be an those away was this is a venture if i didn't love it i'll be an accountant. >> we want the experience that is a non-airport experience the negative stigma we're trying to erase that. >> everything is in a bad food to excite them about the food and they have time to learn about us. >> people are imitated by traveling and the last thing to do is come to a place fill of chaos. >> telling me how the extent of

napa a farms came about. >> it was a vision of the airport director he had a suspicion of a really cool gourmet speciality market locally friendly products this market local flavors this is the best. >> can we get a little tour. >> absolutely (laughter) ♪♪ ♪♪ >> so first on our tour. >> we have the clock we like to call it. >> this is coordinating it is made in san francisco. >> what about the customer presence. >> we like to get the permanent farther i love the cappuccino and you have to go to multiple places for the cupcakes the cup a cakes from kari's people want

to live here they're longing phone call for one thing in one spot in you know anything about san francisco the cheese the most popular cheesy think a lot of the people from the west coast say so this the real san francisco sour dough and they're curious. >> you find people respond to the idea of organic and absolutely. >> this is autumn. >> thank you, thank you and there's a lot of personal touch. >> i see san francisco. >> it's very hands on. >> what's the most popular items. >> this is quite surprising our fresh jotting this is the chronicle special a bowl of warm oats and coconut that's mites

farther. >> and speaking of drinks tell me again the cocktail scenes is that one, the things your known for . >> the cocktails are fantastic. >> really. >> fresh ingredients we don't have a mixture it to order this is our marcus bloody mayor. >> farmer's market bloody mary the bloody marys in the airport are great shikz it up. and then we're going to garnish it with olives. and some lime and a fresh stalk of selly. right on.

>> we like >> my name is alan schumer. i am a fourth generation san franciscan. in december, this building will be 103 years of age. it is an incredibly rich, rich history. [♪♪♪] >> my core responsibility as city hall historian is to keep the history of this building alive. i am also the tour program manager, and i chair the city

advisory commission. i have two ways of looking at my life. i want it to be -- i wanted to be a fashion designer for the movies, and the other one, a political figure because i had some force from family members, so it was a constant battle between both. i ended up, for many years, doing the fashion, not for the movies, but for for san franciscan his and then in turn, big changes, and now i am here. the work that i do at city hall makes my life a broader, a richer, more fulfilling than if i was doing something in the

garment industry. i had the opportunity to develop relationships with my docents. it is almost like an extended family. i have formed incredible relationships with them, and also some of the people that come to take a tour. she was a dressmaker of the first order. i would go visit her, and it was a special treat. i was a tiny little girl. i would go with my wool coat on and my special little dress because at that period in time, girls did not wear pants. the garment industry had the -- at the time that i was in it and i was a retailer, as well as the designer, was not particularly favourable to women. you will see the predominant designers, owners of huge

complexes are huge stores were all male. women were sort of relegated to a lesser position, so that, you reached a point where it was a difficult to survive and survive financially. there was a woman by the name of diana. she was editor of the bazaar, and evoke, and went on and she was a miraculous individual, but she had something that was a very unique. she classified it as a third i. will lewis brown junior, who was mayor of san francisco, and was the champion of reopening this building on january 5th of 1999. i believe he has not a third eye , but some kind of antenna

attached to his head because he had the ability to go through this building almost on a daily basis during the restoration and corrects everything so that it would appear as it was when it opened in december of 1915. >> the board of supervisors approved that, i signed it into law. jeffrey heller, the city and county of san francisco oh, and and your band of architects a great thing, just a great thing. >> to impart to the history of this building is remarkable. to see a person who comes in with a gloomy look on their face , and all of a sudden you start talking about this building, the gloomy look disappears and a smile registers across their face.

with children, and i do mainly all of the children's tours, that is a totally different feeling because you are imparting knowledge that they have no idea where it came from, how it was developed, and you can start talking about how things were before we had computer screens, cell phones, lake in 1915, the mayor of san francisco used to answer the telephone and he would say, good morning, this is the mayor. >> at times, my clothes make me feel powerful. powerful in a different sense. i am not the biggest person in the world, so therefore, i have to have something that would draw your eye to me. usually i do that through color,

or just the simplicity of the look, or sometimes the complication of the look. i have had people say, do those shoes really match that outfit? retirement to me is a very strange words. i don't really ever want to retire because i would like to be able to impart the knowledge that i have, the knowledge that i have learned and the ongoing honor of working in the people's palace. you want a long-term career, and you truly want to give something to do whatever you do, so long as you know that you are giving to someone or something you're

then yourself. follow your passion and learn how to enrich the feelings along the way.

>> hello, i'm alex madrid, i'm the co-chair for san francisco mayor's disability commission. and it's for september 17th, 2021, friday. i would like to bring the meeting to order. >> clerk: okay, for roll call [roll cal