. >> president: the virtual meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission. i am ben bleiman. due to the covid-19 emergency and to protect employers are the public, the city hall meeting rooms are closed. this precaution is taken pursuant to various local, state, and federal orders. commission members will attend

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we'll start with a role call. >> clerk: okay. roll really good morning. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the october meeting of local agency formation commission san francisco. i am supervisor connie chan and also the chair of this commission. i'm joined by commissioners gordon mar and commissioner chante singh. the clerk is alyssa samera.

i'd like to thank sfgov for staffing this meeting. madam clerk, do you have any announcements. >> clerk: yes, madam clerk. the members will participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. cable channel 26, 78, or 99 are streaming the meeting. public comment is available by calling (415) 655-0001 meeting i.d. 248410027.

when connected, you will be muted and in listening mode only. when your item of interest comes up, please dial star three to be added to the speaker line. best practices are to turn down your television or radio and speak clearly and slowly. or by. if you submit public comment in either of these alternative ways, they will be' forwarded to the commissioners and part of the official filed. madam chair. >> chairman: thank you, madam clerk. please call the roll. >> clerk: on the roll, [roll call]

madam chair, you have a quorum. >> chairman: thank you, madam clerk. please call item number two. >> clerk: item two is the findings to allow teleconference meetings under california government code section 5 our 953e. members of the public call (415) 655-0001. meeting id 24841000027 then press pound and pound again. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. madam chair. >> chairman: a state executive order has allowed policy bodies like this one to meet by

teleconference. state legislature passed the prior executive order and allows policy bodies to remotely provided that they make certain findings that it is still necessary to meet by teleconference. this body must make findings that we have considered the circumstance of the state of the emergency, the state of emergency continues to directly impact the ability of policy bodies to meet in person. i'd like to make a motion to adopt those findings. first, we need to open it up for public comment. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to speak on this item, please dial star three to line up to speak. if you have not already done so

-- ms. pena, do we have anybody in the cue? >> we have one caller in the queue. >> clerk: please put them forward. thank you. >> caller: hello, commissioners. good morning. this is eric brooks with californians for energy choice and the local grass roots group our city san francisco. soy would just note that probably for another couple of months, maybe longer, there are safety issues because of the delta variant being so much better at spreadingaround even when people have been vaccinated. so that's just a note. i would continue teleconferencing. regardless of whether the meetings are teleconferenced, it would be very important that the public still be allowed to call into meetings even if they're live meetings because that enables much more robust

public comment at key moments. i know that a lot of times it's just been me and another person calling in, but there have been times on this committee and other committees when something important needed to happen and we were able to get a lot of people in to san francisco public utilities commission meeting about clean powersf and we would want to be able to do the same thing for lafco. if you go back to live meetings, please do continue the policy of allowing people to call in for public comment. thanks. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. i believe that was the only caller. >> yes. no more callers in queue. >> clerk: thank you. madam chair. >> chairman: thank you, madam clerk. seeing no more public comment, public comment is closed for item number two. i just want to quickly respond and definitely, colleagues, commissioners, and madam clerk,

i think we will continue to confer with city attorney about moving forward about meeting through teleconference as well as allowing public comment remotely or in person. we'll bring you the updates when it's time. madam clerk, shall we go through item -- oh, i think we have to move this. sorry. >> clerk: is there a resolution to approve? >> chairman: yeah. is there a motion to approve these findings. >> commissioner: so moved. >> chairman: do we have a second? >> commissioner: second. >> chairman: great. the motion is moved by commissioner mar and seconded by commissioner singh. do we need to call the roll on this? >> clerk: yes. on the motion to move the item by commissioner mar seconded by

commissioner singh, [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chairman: thank you. seeing no objections, this finding is approved. madam clerk, please call item number three. >> clerk: yes. item number three is approval of the lafco minutes from september 17th, 2021, regular meeting. for members of the public who would like to public on this item, please call (415) 655-0001. meeting id 24841000027. if you have not already done so press star three to line up to speak and the system will indicate you have been unmuted. madam chair. >> chairman: great. colleagues, do you have any changes to the september 17th meeting? madam clerk, shall we go to public comment. >> clerk: yes. for members of the public, if

you have not already done so press star three to be added to the queue. if you're already on hold, please continue to wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. operations, is there anyone in the queue? no. it does not appear we have any callers. >> chairman: great. seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed. i move to approve these minutes. do i have a second? >> commissioner: second. >> chairman: great. seconded by commissioner singh. madam clerk, please call the roll. >> clerk: on item number three, [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chairman: thank you, that motion is approved unanimously. madam clerk, please call item number four. >> clerk: item number four is the chairperson's report. members of the public who wish to comment on this item call

(415) 655-0001. meeting id 24841000027 and pound and pound again. and a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin to speak. madam chair. >> chairman: since we don't have an executive officer on the staff at this moment. i will be providing the report for today. since our last meeting, we have made an offer to the candidate who received not only the highest report in the panel, but it's quite a gap between this candidate among others, so truly, i appreciate the panelists and the candidates, but because the candidates still need to give their current employers notice, we

will not expose the name until next meeting where we'll also appoint the new office. we're also assisting and hiring a policy analyst, the reinvestment group that staff application opened on july 29th and decided to wait until our executive officer was hired and proceeding when hiring a policy analyst. so the two staff will be working together. we have confirmed that with the new executive officer that they can join, the hiring panel for the position. the job announcement re-opened on september 7th and closed on september 24th for the policy analyst position. the hiring panel will interview candidates later this month, the month of october. and hopefully we'll have a candidate for us to be hired in november. lastly, quarrel fellow, ashley

garetti was placed within lafco to serve as a research associate from september to october. ashley worked closely with former officer brian goebel and identified common challenges. the report will be published as part of our november meeting which will take place on november 19th where ashley will present their findings to the commission and answer questions. colleagues, just wanted to look to you to see if you have any questions. seeing no comments on the roster madam clerk, should we go to public comment? >> clerk: yes, madam chair. operations is checking to see if any callers are in the queue. if you have not already done so, please press star three to be added to the queue. it appears we have no callers

for this item. >> chairman: thank you, madam clerk. could you please -- seeing no public comment, public comment is now closed. madam clerk, please call item number five. >> clerk: yes. and for the record, there was no action taken on item four. item five is a community choice aggregation act ufts report including cleanpowersf, the covid-19 utility debt relief program, water conservation and service, and enrollment and service statistics. members of the public call (415) 655-0001. meeting id 24841000027 then pound and then pound again. if you have not already done so, please dial star three to line up to speak and the system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. madam chair. >> chairman: thank you, madam clerk. before we start -- before we go to cleanpowersf director mike

hyams, i would just mention that i think that while the presentation is limited to 10 minutes, i think that for any materials that the public is interested in could always inquire for us and to us. meanwhile, i also have urged our commissioners to also in a separate time in advance of our meeting, we take time to get conversation and have dialog so we continue to build our knowledge and be educated on these. i find it sometimes frankly a rather complex matter. thank you, director hyams. i really appreciate you working with us. thank you. >> director: good morning chair chan and fellow commissioners. my name's mike hyams.

to address your ontario, the point you just made, chair chan, yes, i'm very happy to schedule regular briefings on topics of issues of the commissioners to help electric sector. it's always complex. we're always learning quite frankly. so thanks for those initial remarks. i did want to just start with some logistics. although they're co-mingled, we've really got two presentations covering two different p.u.c. programs and so i just wanted to lay out our plan. i'm going to start by providing the cleanpowersf update. once i present those items, i'll turn it over to my colleague, julie ortiz. she's the water conservation

manager for the water enterprise and she'll present on water conservation programs. we are also joined by edith casterina. if madam clerk could please give her presentation access, that would be appreciated. and then a question for you, chair. would you like us to pause between the presentations and take questions or wait until the end of our presentations and then answer questions from the commission? >> chairman: i they let's pause, if i may. i want to make sure my colleagues have the space and the time to process the information and ask on the specific subject matters separately. >> director: okay. sounds great. edith, are you able to bring up the slides?

>> yep. >> director: okay. great. >> are these visible? >> director: yes. they are. thank you. and if you can advance to slide two. great, thank you. so for our cleanpowersf report today, i'm going to cover our latest program enrollment and service statistics. i'll also provide an update on the clean power sf integrated resource plan and custer debt and covid-19 relief initiatives. next slide. you can go one more. enrollment in customer participation in cleanpowersf remains stable. since our last report last month in september, our program opt-out statistics have been sort of waivering around 4.1%

and 4.2%. in this slide here, we prepared this late last week, we were seeing a 4.2%, that's actually rounded. this week, it's 4.1%. so it's sort of bouncing back between those two levels. i just wanted to report that's the only change right now. and, to give you a little bit of context on that, part of the reason why it's moving around there is because of customers, residents moving within the city. when they open up a new account, they are enrolled in cleanpowersf. so there's sort of an ebb and flow a little bit of customers moving in and out of apartments and homes in the city. edith, if you could advance to the next slide. so for my update on the integrated resource plan,

today, i'm going to focus on information that we haven't shared and there are slides that we have presented so i'll go through these quickly. there's included context to help commissioners and members of the public. this slide provides background information and context about our integrated resource plan or i.r.p. process which is a requirement for cleanpowersf for state law. i.r.p. is a long-term energy resource planning tool that helps identify research port toll owes that meet regulatory requirements, policy goals, and support reliability in a cost-effective manner. next slide, please. last august, the sfpuc commission adopted cleanpowersf i.r.p. in september of 2020. in that i.r.p., the sfpuc

adopted a plan to accelerate clean powersf's achievement of renewable energy by 2025. next slide, please. the 2020i.r.p. adopted a number of renewable energy and energy restorive procurements which are summarized on this slide. we are making steady progress towards meeting this goal. we are continuing to procure additional power supply resources to implement the i.r.p.. this table summarizes our active procurement efforts. under long duration energy storage, i wanted to highlight that as a part of a group energy program that joined a new power agency called california community power.

we issued solicitation last fall. as a reminder, long duration energy storage, our technology is capable of storing energy and discharging that energy continuously over an eight-hour period of time. last week, the california community power board issued a notice of intent to contract with one of these facilities. the battery project that will be built in kearn county. the meeting information including video recording is available on the j.p.a.'s website at cacommunitypower.org. under the j.p.a. model, california community power will enter into a contract with the long duration storage project developer. and cleanpowersf would then

enter into a project participation agreement with the other participating c.c.a.s and the j.p.a., california community power to receive a share of the benefits of the long duration storage project. negotiations are wrapping up for this first project and contract documents are getting finalized right now. we anticipate that the california community power board will vote on moving forward with the contract for its first project at its meeting in december. we are planning to seek approval from our commission and the board of supervisors to participate in the proposed project through california community power later this year and early next. so we'll continue to keep the lafco commission informed of this as we move forward. another thing i wanted to highlight is related to this next item under utility scale is that we have negotiated an amendment to add battery storage to an existing

renewable energy contract that cleanpowersf has with next era energy resources. if approved, the amendment would offer cleanpowersf to purchase solar power from the facility to store the solar power and discharge it during times when that energy is in greater need by cleanpowersf and the state grid. the additional battery storage greatly enhances the project's flexibility and improves its reliability value to the grid. the addition of battery storage addresses some of the battery storage requirements need ridentified in cleanpowersf's i.r.p. and if approved, we'll construct it in the summer of 2022 with a target operation date of october of next year. our commission approved the amendment at its meeting on september 28th. we planned to present the amendment to the budget and

finance committee next week. i don't have any other updates on other initiatives identified here that we have under way, but they are under way and we are making progress and we'll continue to update this body in future presentations as we have new information to share. next slide, please. in addition to our renewable procurement, we are expanding our customer program offerings as well. this table lists are operating in development customer programs and we presented this to you last month as well. the initiatives we have under development are still on track. we will continue to update you as there are changes. i also wanted to mention as we discussed this during q&a.

for cleanpowersf customers, i know this is an area of interest for a number of the commissioners and we've had discussions in previous meetings, so i wanted to put that out there for consideration. next slide, please. okay. so let's transition now to the issue of customer debt and what's going on to support these customers and protect them from utility service disconnections. as ared by the chair, we provided an update to our data in the next slides. all of the data reflected on these maps reflects mid august. previously, we've utilized a 90. bay delinquent metric, but we've modified that here to show data reflecting 60 days

blink went, 60 days or more delinquent. the reason for that is the threshold utilized to determine eligibility for relief programs that are being rolled out at the state level. so the map shown here depicts the percentage of cleanpowersf residential customers that are more than 60 days delinquent on their electricity bill by zip code. the darkest shaded zip codes presents the highest concentrated customers and the lighter shaded zip codes represent the least. the delinquency rate represents the number of cleanpowersf customers that are delinquent divided by the total number in each zip code. in total, there are almost 25,000 residential cleanpowersf customer that is are 60 days or more delinquent on their cleanpowersf electricity

charges. this represents about 75%. data zip codes has been aggregated. i just wanted to point that out to protect our customers' privacy consistent with our policy and state law. next slide, please. this map depicts the average past due balance for residential customers more than 60 days delinquent. the amount past due at that threshold range from about $85 to $225. these dollar amounts only represent the amount that the customers oh, cleanpowersf. since they must also pay pg&e for transmission and distributions, in total, they may have almost twice this in actual past due amounts. next slide, please. this method depicts the

percentage of commercial customers more than 60 days delinquent on their electricity bill by 60 days. there are about 2,000 commercial cleanpowersf customers that are more than 60 days delinquent. that's also about 70%. 90% of the delinquent customers take service on our small. and lastly, this depicts customers delinquent for more than 60 days. the amounts range from $285 to as much as $1600. and, again, this only represents the cleanpowersf amount owed. it does not include the transmission and distribution. in total for the commercial

sector, we have about $1.7 million in arrears that are more than 60 days past due. next slide, please. so as we've been reporting to lafco, we need to address about a billion dollars in debt that are regulated by the cpuc and to adopt customer policy adoptions. again, we've shared this information at previous meetings. what's key to note here is that the disconnection moratorium for pg&e ended in september. consistent with the cpuc's decision, customers with more than 60 days of arrears on their energy bills were automatically enrolled into a repayment plan which is summarized here. if the customer remains in their repayment plan, they will

not be at risk of disconnection. next slide, please. this is some new information i wanted to share with you today that we haven't covered previously. there were provisions in the cpuc's decision just referenced to support small business and that establishes repayment plan for small businesses as well. the decision requires similar relief measures for small business customers to residential. notably it suspended disconnections until repayment plans were in place for small businesses. it directed the investor and utilities to automatically enroll small business customers and plans with pay-off terms long enough to support reasonable bill impacts. i believe it limited the monthly payment to no more than 10% of the customer's normal

monthly bill. customers enrolled in a payment plan are not eligible for disconnection just like residential customers. it was also ordered by the cpuc for the investor and utilities to develop a disadvantaged pilot program. this pilot program would provide outreach and counseling to small business customers located in disadvantaged communities on programs, incentives, and rates to help them lower their bills. the decision encourages the investor and utilities to work with local community organizations to assist with this outreach and counseling. the plans are due to the cpuc from the investor and utilities by the end of this month, october 28th. our regulatory team at the p.u.c. is actively engaged in this and along with other c.c.a. programs is advocating that our customers be eligible

to participate in the pilot which was initially not clear and we're happy to again, continue to report back on developments on this initiative. so the last two slides here are repeats from previous meetings, again, left in this deck for reference and context, but in the interest of time, i'm going to stop here and i'm happy to take any questions that the commission may have for me. >> chairman: thank you, director hyams. colleagues, if you have questions, please put your name in the roster now. director hyams, i think my question is directed to one of your slides, small business and trying to understand the definition of small business for the state level. how does it compare to our definition in the city and county of san francisco for

small businesses? just trying to understand like who exactly qualifies for the city as a small business. >> director: sure. i understand. i may need to check our city's own definitions on small business. but generally in the electric sector, it's determined by the rate plan that the customers on and normally that is set based on the customers' demand and usage characteristics. so it's sort of like they're small because they use less energy than a larger business, but to give you a sense of sort of who we're talking about here as far as the delinquencies, what we've seen is at food service places represent the largest proportion of delinquent commercial customers, something that's probably not surprising with covid and the shutdown of restaurants and reduced

service. other small business customers that we've seen in this group of delinquent accounts are bars, salons and hotels, smaller hotels. together, those categories make upmost of the delinquent commercial accounts. >> chairman: great. for when you're return in november, i would love to see for the customer programs you've been operating and i know for example the electric heater is not going to take place until 2022, but you do have that low-income inverter program that is launching this fall. when you do return in november, kind of give it that understanding of the number of

customers that are participating in each program. and if possible, the zip code of those, a breakdown of those actually utilizing the program. so just to give us a better understanding. >> okay. i've got some notes on what you're looking for. i may follow up with your staff between meetings to get a little more clarity on that. but we will update you, for sure. >> chairman: yeah. and i appreciate whatever information, director hyams, i noticed you mentioned through the presentation that we should go back and present that and i look forward to your feedback as well to highlight the information that you deem important for not just for the commission, but really draw the public to understand. >> director: will do. colleagues, do you have any?

i do see commissioner singh. >> commissioner: hi. yeah. i just wanted to say thank you so much for these reports. i would definitely want to take you up on that offer and a deeper dive into some of the stories and portfolio and all that good stuff. especially in particular, i'm really interested in seeing if there's any -- i mean, has there been any analysis or projection. i know it's really hard considering how battery technology is improving and long-term storage is improving, but we can't necessarily predict the future about how that's going to play out over the next ten years or so and that's really what our planning cycle is, but i would be interesting in p.u.c. or anyone has done any analysis about how that might help us reach some of our targets faster or anything of that sort. i'd be really interested in

there's any analysis on seeing that at some point whether offline or in a meeting. >> director: yeah. i think to make sure i understand what you're looking for, it sounds like in part a bit more information on trends and projections for the deployment or development of these new technologies and then also some analysis on how it will help us manage more renewable energy on the grid. of the is that correct? >> commissioner: yep. absolutely. >> director: okay. >> commissioner: thank you. >> chairman: thank you, commissioner singh. commissioner mar. >> commissioner: thank you,

chair chan. mr. hyams, thanks for the updates. again, i'm particularly interested in the negative programs for clean energy and building decarbonization. i recently -- i had commissioned the budget and legislative analyst office to conduct some analysis on building decarbonization of our housing stock and we held a hearing on that recently and, you know, that's a major undertaking for our city that's going to cost millions of dollars to fully decarbonize our housing stock and so i'm really excited to see the heat pump water heater incentive program moving forward as one of the first steps that we're taking to support homeowners i

can understand some of it coming from -- and we're adding in more. >> director: yeah. of and that's one of the things i hope we can get into more detail on in this up coming briefing, but i can give you a little more color on that right now. so there are actually multiple programs that are outlet there. i think you just alluded to sort of our programs. one thing i wanted to emphasize is that the program that we're rolling out that clean powersf is supporting financially is targeted at the contractors. it's really the companies that do boiler replacements. and the goal here is really to bring up the familiarity, knowledge, comfort, within the

sector that's actually installing this equipment within the city and across the bay area because this is a regional program that we're participating in. so that, you know, residents, homeowners, they're being approached by the contractors with this technology and that it's not necessarily the homeowners asking the contractor who may not be familiar about it or it's just something that they don't, you know, they're not deploying on a regular basis. so we have approved almost $500,000 in incentive funds to support an incentive payment that would go to contractors for each system that they install. and the idea is that's going to help the contractors bring the price down for the consumers

and make it more competitive for installation and that's also sort of a hook for us to connect for this program to connect with the contractors and educate them about it. so that's the goal of the program that we're rolling out. in parallel with that, bay ren is offering incentives through its home plus program directly to homeowners and other residential customers to install these technologies. so there's sort of, you know, intensification i guess you could say of the incentives that are available both directly to the consumer, but then also kind of midstream at the contractor level. is that helpful? >> commissioner: yes. that is. thanks for explaining that. and i'd love to follow up with you and the p.u.c. staff that

are working on this for more details. i think that sounds great. we're focused on the contractors, even from my own experience, i had contacted a neighborhood electrical contractor about a heat pump installation at my house and they said that they don't really do that. so, yeah, i think there is a need for support for our local contractors. >> director: yeah. i think a simple way of thinking about this is we have supply and demand and we need to stimulate both sides of that, the supply side too. >> commissioner: well, thanks for all your work on this. >> director: yeah. >> chairman: thank you, commissioner mar. i share the sentiments. i just recently had my water replaced, but it was sort of an emergency and we couldn't quite