>> good morning and welcome to the rules committee for today, november 1, 2021 i'm chair peskin joined by supervisor mandelman and ms. chan. our clerk has announcement? >> the board recognizes that the public access to city services is essential and invite public participations and public comment will be invited on channels or streamed or the public numbers the stream. opportunities to speak during

public commentary are available by calling 1-415-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 2482 090 9351 then press pound and pound again. when connected you'll hear the meeting discussion but will be in listening mode only. when your item of interest comes up press star 3 to be added to the speaker line. best practice is to speak clearly or slowly and turn down your video or audio and you can e-mail to the rules committee clerk if submitted by e-mail it will be forwarded to the supervisors and included as part of the file. written comment may be sent to city hall.

>> thank you, mr. young. could you please read the first item. >> naming the city hall press room for barbara a. taylor] . >> thank you, mr. clerk. colleagues, i won't speak about this very long because we unanimously the full board of supervisors passed a resolution urging that the city hall press room be named after the late barbara taylor the dean of the city hall press corps from the days of mayor mosconi to almost the present. she died exactly one year and one week ago today. i want to once again offer our

condolences through her widower and her family and i want to thank supervisors for their sponsorship insofar we voted to the full board for the naming of the press room. are there comments from members? seeing none, is there any public comment on this item? >> yes, members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item call 1-415-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 2482 090 9351 and press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so press star 3 to line up to speak and a system prompt will

indicate you have raised your hand and wait until it indicates you have been unmuted to begin your comments. i believe we have one member of the public in line it speak at this time. >> first speaker, please. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, we do. >> david papel just speaking in support. thanks again. >> seeing no other members of the public comment. public comment is closed and motion to send this item to the full board with recommendation. roll call, please. on that matter.

supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> next item, please. >> 2. 211031 [administrative code - request for sheriff's services] sponsor: safai ordinance amending the administrative code to authorize the sheriff to contract with private entities to provide supplemental law enforcement services. >> this is brought to you us by supervisor safai. the floor is yours. >> all right. good to see you.

is supervisor safai going to join us? tell you what, sheriff, do you want to say something? >> yes, good morning, yes. i appreciate the opportunity to talk about this. i was under the understanding supervisor safy would be here and i don't want to speak for him but i do want to say as the sheriff's office and being a part of this legislation is fully support all of us here and we also have information to share with you in regards to our preparation to carry through on this legislation and just wanted the opportunity to share that information with you, time permitting. >> you're welcomed to do that. i'm going to make a suggestion they know supervisor safai has

offered some -- ah, better late than never. >> thank you, sir. >> yeah, i'd like to say opening remark and i'm going to call the sheriff up and call up chief bill scott as well. thank you for getting this on the calendar in a timely manner. i really appreciate it. i wanted to give background and context to how we got where we are today. last year when i was running for re-election, got a lot of calls from members of my community, small business owners, merchants themselves as well as particularly seniors and they said they were seeing brazen

theft in our local drug stores particularly walgreens on a scale they've never seen before. so i went down to talk to the merchants myself and check in with them and see how things were going and seeing if what we were seeing on social media and hearing from the individuals calling was as it was described and unfortunately as i was there witnessed 10 people -- 10 walk up to the walgreens with empty bags and stood there in disbelief as one stood outside kind of monitoring and within less than two minutes they were out laughing and high-fiving and walking out with their bags full. i knew this was something that i had never seen in over two decades i've lived here in san francisco and it seemed blasent

lawlessness was happening on a scale that needed to be addressed. last spring, in public services committee we had we heard from many retailers from safeway, walgreens, the gam, cvs where one of the executives said san francisco was one of the epicenters of organized retail crime and 85% of their laws was a result of that organized retail theft. also learned that many of the people that were being used to do this crime often have many of the same issues we talk about frequently in the city, they're battling addiction, they're battling through rehab. we did a hearing on that as well. and talked about how many people that were recidivists had an underlying drug addiction that motivated us to put forward in

the budget last year which we funded our therapeutic community that was abstinence based we're excited and launched and looking forward to seeing success happen there. and these products stolen end up on secondary markets, amazon marketplace, ebay, and plea markets in the east bay and in -- flea markets and in the east bay on market and mission street. we wanted to look for a solution. we put together an organized retail crime working group where we asked chief bill scott and the sheriff and the chamber of commerce and council of district merchants and many organized labor, united food and commercial workers that represent life front line workers to join and come up with ideas. from that working group we were

able to get consensus building off the success and our programs where officers are hired on the retailer's dime to supply extra security and what we heard the demand out strips the supply of available officers for this program the pending program. we appreciate the work that chief scott has done. again, i think it's over the work we've done in the last year and commitment and focus they re-dedicated resources to the program and put a lieutenant in charge and added additional ways of monitoring the program to make sure it's being assigned not just based on where officers want to go but where the highest

demand and need is based on criminal activity and the supply of those officers still falls short. that's how we were able to put forward this program together which is an expansion of having law enforcement present and available through the 10a program is what we're calling it and allowing deputy sheriffs to be hired as well. in addition to the reducing crime we believe it will provide the presence needed to redirect people into the right rehabilitation program. i do not believe and i'm still a firm believer that we're not going incarcerate our way out of this problem. we're not going back to the time of the early '90s and '80s where we're going send people to prison but having arrest and directed into the right

rehabilitation programs ste goal and the naacp was part of this working group and signed off on this legislation as well. so that is it in essence. i can get into some details. i will say right off the bat that we took off the table and sheriff can talk about this any of the sheriffs assigned will not be allowed to carry tasers. only standard-issued equipment and we're conscious from the fiscal perspective not allowing any of the officers, sheriffs to call in stick or use their comp time and then access this program. you won't able to lack of a better word, double dip, those that's what we'll do call that out.

i have amendments i think we circulated to your offices and can go after that after the sheriff is able to present and we'll call you have chief scott and let him say a few words and then we can get into questions and public comment. if sheriff is here i'd like him to give a short presentation on san francisco deputy cans help deter commercial retail theft in the city and he and i are available for questions and we will go to chief scott after sheriff miamoto. thank you for your hard work and working with us on this and thank you to our city attorney who spent tike working with us to get the legislation right? all the individuals that gave input and feedback from the council district merchants to the union square and commercial district and benefits association, fishermen's wharf,

all the members of the commercial retail crime working group that participated in vetting this and helping put this forward. thank you to my co-sponsors already. thank you for your co-sponsorship and thank you to supervisor mar for your early co-sponsorship. thank you, sheriff, miamoto. >> again, good morning, everyone. thank you for the opportunity here. supervisor safai mentioned we've been working together, hand in hand with the police department and the community to make sure the implementation of this is going to be successful and responsive to the needs of everybody in regards to this challenge and problem we have. i do have a presentation i gave to victor. it will be we should be able to share that and if not, if you

have the presentation, victor. i'll keep this short and be happy to answer any questions that arise from the information we share right now. the legislation labelled 10a is something we feel strongly at the sheriff's office that will be a good fit to supply security to the businesses being challenged. as also mentioned the legislation is very consistent with the language of 10b and the current program we have for the police department as we have done with other things we worked together with the police department to make sure we adopt best practices. one thing unique to us and feel say strong fit especially for deputy sheriffs is currently

with a lot of our contracted service we have in the community we have deputies to fixed post assignments slightly different in terms of answering calls for we have deputies used to being at fixed post assignment being there with whoever we're contracted with. that's one thing we have done for years that fits with the 10a program. we're familiar with meeting law enforcement staffing needs as shown in the next slide. this is who we are and what we do and i'm sure you're fully aware of what the programs are about and what we have is four divisions, our field operation and custody operations division and main divisions that have

operations involved with our staff and that's where the bulk of our staff are. we have a criminal investigations unit which will be well suited to work with the investigations team related to any arrests and charges that are brought for our 10a work and our contractual commitments for law enforcement services listed here. we currently work with other departments and cities and county and a lot of are fixed post and some have to do with our field operations division but we are very well positioned to deal with this kind of challenge. special events at city hall and third-party contracted services and we work with other agencies obviously for mutual aid request. we have deputies that work for

the 49er games. we've been doing it a number of years and feel the 10a would be the next step in the progression of something we already provide. and for those not familiar with the training our deputy sheriffs have, i want to highlight training in terms of being a peace officer is consistent with post standard basic training. we're also mandated to have additional training because we deal with incarcerated justice involved persons. we have additional training depp deputy mandated to take and our advanced training every year we train them at a minimum of 24 annual hours for basic continued professional training like skills or range time or

defensive tactic. we training our people up for 48 hours a year instead of the required 40 hours and in addition to the training program we have additional training for our staff. a lot of it has to do with direct supervision and dealing with people and dealing with people in crisis. most importantly though right now we have and we have postcertified de-escalation techniques and a force we currently have and i've mandated all staff go through this. we've had over 200 staff members go through this already and on pass to make sure our staff has the required training. it's consistent with what you see in the police department and the chief is about to come on and talk to you more about the partnerships. the training is consistent with the post-training for cit that everybody gets as a peace officer. and lastly, i guess we can go to

the last slide, victor, our planning profits is outlined here. our department is working on the 10a policies and procedures that will be consistent with what the police department already has in place for the general orders. we're reviewing the manual procedures for consistency. we're consulting with the police department active and current staff and retiree have worked the program. we have scheduled meetings and already met with please department command staff to adopt the best practices and already met with and talked to i believe d.e.m. on a communications plan. one thing that's great is we're on the same radio operation system so there's not going to be any need for creating any sort of other path on communications. as i mentioned earlier also our staff are familiar with managing the schedules contracted services. we have the ability to do that through our field operation

division and on the last point here, as with us mentioned by supervisor safai anybody working the overtime will have their basic equipment, nothing specialized or anything like that to assuage concerns about tasers or anything we have. that's everything in a nutshell. hopefully i did that not too fast. i have a tendency to move fast. >> i appreciate that. just want to over emphasize for the committee, one of the l of the things we've been doing since the conversation began, we asked sheriff miamoto and chief scott to talk about coordination. one thing chief scott will talk to you about when they have reorganized the internal of the

10b program looking at assignments on the highest need based on crime data not just the demand the officers and where nay might like to go. -- where they might like to go. we asked sheriff miamoto and chief scott to coordinate assignments and it will take time to ramp up on the sheriff. we'll do targeted assignments and there'll be constant communication and coordination between the two departments. one of the things we're continuing as we have very targeted meetings with our organized retail crime working group, we'll continue those on a monthly basis specifically to deal with the conversation about retail theft. i know supervisor mandelman is

digging in deep with the issue at the safeway at market street and have seen reduced hours at target and as stated with safeway it's the only locale on where they're having massive reduced hours. there's been a lot of debate with the walgreens closed whether it's based on internal profit margin numbers and return for investors and we would be naive to say it's not a piece of the equation but we also be naive to say retail theft is plaguing our cities where these places are having to choose to reduce hours and in this scenario there's a demand for on-site enforcement. i want to emphasize this is not

about incarceration but putting people in the right rehabilitation type programs and i know safeway's looking at creative ways with the union for look at how people can be retrained and put in training programs to redirect them into opportunities so theft will not be attractive to them and utilized by the network. thank you, sheriff and for your commitment to making our city safer and protecting retailers and protecting the jobs because at the ends of the day, there's a lot of front line workers that worked through the pandemic whose jobs are on the line because this is happening on such a large scale. >> thank you, supervisor safai. chief, good morning. >> good morning, chair peskin

and good morning to all the board. thank you for being patient. i was greeth a brand new academy class. i appreciate your support on that as well. i'm going to be brief with my remarks and i know with this legislation 10a i just want to put in context how i see this. we've had significant challenges as you all know with retail theft and others that require companies to hire our sfpd officers and we've not been able to fulfill all the requests. this legislation will help alleviate that. i talked with sheriff miamoto

and i won't speak for the sheriff but i know we're both committed our agencies working together and communicating with whoever wants to hire off-duty personnel to make sure we are all acting in the best interest of our city and that's what it's all about what is in the best interest of our city. there's a demand we've not been able to fulfill and we want to make sure when people reach out to our city for assistance particularly in police and security and keeping our city safe we're able to meet that obligation and demand. to me, i think i'm always in the best interest of the city and i'm available for any questions you have. >> sorry, i'm on my iphone, my

computer keeps knock me off. i know you've been dedicated since we start the conversation organized retail theft, you've been doing this for years but wholly recommitted to this issue getting the 10b program and looking at the ambassador program and retired officers and having them present in the areas where crime is happening on the highest scale and working in partnership with working with the city attorney and myself to as we look at the statistics in turning the theft around for this our city. don't have additional questions, chair, for chief scott and sheriff miamoto.

i know chief may have to leave in a little bit but if anyone has question for chief scott you may want to start with him first and a can talk about some of the amendments we're going to it make today to clarify the legislation. >> thank you. i do not have question for chief scott but appreciate the fact that both of these law enforcement agencies are working in the interest of san francisco and san franciscans because i realize that underneath this there are thorny concerns in the house of working people and with the deputy social services and police officers and the fact that you, supervisor safai and chief scott and sheriff miamoto were able to bridge that and the issues are noted and appreciated

and i think constructive and great when we can work together and not let unfortunate issues get in the way and that did not happen here. well done, all three of you, and with that supervisors, mandelman or chan, any comments or questions. supervisor mandelman. >> thank you, chair peskin and supervisor safai. i think it's important and good legislation in response to a very real need. i think we've been hearing now from multiple retailers around the city it's not just walgreens or cvs or target or safeway it's all of them seeing something very troubling. when it hits a store like the castro safeway as it done in unprecedented fashion over the last six months that's a challenge for lots of folks of course for the workers who work

in the stores and need to be save and have jobs and also a problem often for lower-income communities and folks that may be getting their food, their prescriptions and may need to go to safeway at 2:00 in the morning because of an unusual work schedule. you can step inside one of these stores as supervisor safai did and see extraordinary and bad things happening i think this is a smart solution. i know from some of the walgreens where they put in a 10d officer it makes a difference when they have them but we know there's not enough officers to go around and this helps to meet the neat. going forward there's going to be issues to worked out and

they're going in eyes wide open and will continue collaboration between the two departments and the community but thanks to the sheriffs for being willing to step up and keeping us safe and there'll be an important addition in dealing with this problem city wide and we have more to do. the is one piece of it. this an important piece but i think it's going to take the retailers stepping up and the police and sheriff and the d.a. and everyone and we have to get a handle on the problem because it is awful and something we have to fix. thank you, supervisor safai. >> thank you, supervisor.

>> would you like know go through the amendments? >> yes, please. >> it has been circulated to all members of the committee have been deemed by the city attorney as substantive so they'll require at least one-week continuance and we'll give this november 8. >> thank you, on page 2 in the definition of requester we'll strike event organizer and replace it with requester through the so where event organizer we'll strike that to indicate who is asking for requesting for the service. the amendment under definition 10a.1 we're going strike on

lines 8 through 10a .1 after the word requester lines 3 through 5 we strike the entire definition of event organizer and it's just requester now becomes means of private individual or private entity seeking additional personnel, equipment or materials of the department at special events or occurrences that happen on an occasion basis for law enforcement throughout the city. that becomes the entire definition who have is asking for that and that then becomes consistent everywhere throughout the legislation. not only are we striking the definition but add special events and occurrences that happen on an occasional service after requester a few times throughout but particularly on

line 17 through 18 on page 2. finally, also under security plan, and that is under the security plan definition, we write security plan means a plan draft the requester that adequately addresses the safety of persons, property ed with the event or occurrence that is the subject of the request for department services. this definition of security plans does not limit to impose more stringent requirement for security plan as circumstances may warrant. the next amendment is under section 10a.2. same thing. we talked about that already. that's the definition of special

events and occurrences and talk about special requester through out and the last amendment are restrictions on the department member eligibility to provide supplemental law enforcement services intended to clarify people will not be allowed to be on sick leave or comp time and access this program. we go into a full definition of that and it talks about what members would be ineligible to perform the services if they're accessing any of the following and talking about regularly scheduled work, anyone that's used over 20 hours of sick leave within the prior three months, it goes over all the different things we've listed in terms of what are exclusions under sick leave. that's it, mr. chair. all of that is intended to clear define the requester and also

who is ineligible for performing these services. that is it. is our city attorney here? >> yes. >> is my summary of who is disqualified and sick leave, do i need to read all that or did i summarize that okay into the record? do i need to read it all? >> no, it's a helpful summary and note the changes. >> great, thank you. through the chair, thank you. >> are there any comments or questions on the amendment from the committee members? seeing none, why don't we open it up for public comment. >> yes, members of the public who which to provide public

comment call 1-415-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 2482 090 9351 and press pound and pound again and press star 3 to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate you raised your hand. wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and begin your public comment. we currently have seven listeners and three in line to speak. >> first speaker, please. >> can you hear me? >> yes, we can. >> my name is michael greener i'm a lieutenant with the sheriff's office and live in san francisco. i'd like to thank you for the opportunity to address you. everything that has been said is true as unprecedented. i live in the dog patch and shop at the safeway on potrero.

up until there's no shopping carts and gotten really bad. i don't know there's much more i can say than the sheriff has already said is that you give the police department this opportunity people have an immediate affect on the crime going down. we have a unique relationship with the incarcerated population in the city and county of san francisco. there isn't a better agency to provide resources. most sheriff deputies are going to know those who come not store who commit crimes because we're there. we're going to be able to have a

presence and i think it's significantly reduced crime and made it better for a lot of people to be shopping. and it gives the police department more resources as well as the sheriff's office. i'd like to thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning, board of supervisors. i'm juan garito i'm a resident and happen to be a deputy sheriff for 20 years and i want to call in and show support for the 10a program and my concern is with the walgreens and cvs store and a lot of elderly utilize them for medications and for small items.

so yes, i think this program would be very effective and policing for the elderly as well as the residents. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning, board of supervisors. i'm president of the d.s.a. i want to thank supervisor safai for all his hard work on this and bringing it to the table and co-sponsors and supervisor mandelman and supervisor mar and i want to thank the rule committee for look into this and chair peskin and to thank the hard work of sheriff miamoto putting a lot of work into this and doing an excellent job and thank you chief scott for your support and would like to highlight a couple things. chair peskin and chief scott brought up that everyone working

together to increase public safety in san francisco is the goal and i think it's a beautiful thing everyone has come together to do this and san franciscans are the priority and they deserve more public safety as well as any visitor to san francisco. thank you all, you're all doing the right thing and i think this is fantastic. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, this is milton huhn. we're fully in support of this legislation. >> good to hear from you, milton. next speaker. >> hello, board. my name is christian cavasares and i'm required and served in the san francisco sheriff's office for 20 years and it's a

great instance where the association is completely behind this. the city has an untapped source in the sheriff's office and provide safety to those shopping in these stores and to any visitors who may come to the city and shop at these location. it's a win-win for everyone involved and for all residents of the city and speak agencies a 51-year resident of the city. thank you for your time. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public to spoke to this item? >> i believe we have one more caller at this time. >> next speaker, please. >> can you hear me now? >> this is david filpao, i'm not a deputy social service. i have brief questions or comments. i'm wondering how this relates

to the new sheriff's department oversight board as to alleged misconduct not that there would be any and if there were any in a store or location where services are being provided. i'm wondering if requesters could shop between the police and sheriff's department if there's a cost difference between the 10a and 10b program and if that makes sense for them to be able to shop in that way. i'm wondering if there is or should be a deadline to request services prior to an event or prior to starting to provide services. the version i was reading was specific to an event. i understand that's being amended. i'm wondering if the security and staffing plan referred to in the legislation would be subject to public disclosure or maybe an applicable exemption to disclosure or basis for withholding. i was going to ask if this is

only for events and for not ongoing service or works but sounds like the next person is going to address that so i was unclear how this would address retail theft and have no objection to the legislation or intent just interested in the details of making this work. thank you for listening. >> thank you. >> thank you. any last speaker or speakers on the item? >> i am checking. one moment. that was our last public commenter. >> public comment is closed and supervisor safai if lewd like to respond to the last speaker, if not, you can incorporate those into your comments next week but would like to start by making a motion to accept the amendment

on the motion and a roll call please. >> on the motion to accept the amendments, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> mr. clerk, i'd like to be added as a co-sponsor and then i would like to make a motion to continue. supervisor safai. >> briefly, i appreciate the last caller and all the callers that called in. thank you for calling in in support. one of the things that we did talk about in the course of drafting the legislation and working on it was the fact that there will be an oversight committee put in place ahalf -- half aboard the board and mayor and gives an extra level of assurance this will be monitored

in a proper way with the office of inspector general. that will add the additional layer of oversight and wanted to make clear this not just for special events and clarify that. but the oversight was important and the coordination was important so that is something that we thought about and i'll have additional comments next week but thank you, for your co-sponsorship and support and thank you for the whole committee and as i said, thank you, jenna clark and deputy city attorney and all my staff and jeffery more -- morris and i'd be remiss if i doesn't recognize the san francisco travel and hotel council and the council of district merchants for their hard work.

so i'll have additional comments next week but thank you everyone for your support and thanks for the comments today. >> thank you. why don't we continue this item one week to november 8 on that motion to continue the item as amended a roll call, please. >> yes, on that motion, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you. thank you supervisor see you next week. clerk call the third and final item. >> item 3 a hearing hearing to consider appointing six members, terms ending june 6, 2023, to the immigrant rights commission. (clerk of the board)

there were some applications withdrawn. >> in so far one of my staff sarah sousa is an applicant to re-appointment i'll do what happened last time this was before the committee ask to recuse myself and turn the gavel to vice chair mandelman. >> on the motion to recuse supervisor peskin, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> thank you. >> supervisors peskin is recused

from item 210479. >> we have applicant to hear from and thank you for serving and those interested in serving. i'm going to work my way through the folks as they appear in the agenda and if you have questions put yourself in the chat. mr. paz?

>> uh-oh. mr. clerk. >> looks like he logged off we can come back. >> i believe he had to leave at 11:00 so he may have left but if he's hearing us and want to come back he can come back. >> hello. my apologies. my computer kicked me off. >> you two minutes. >> thank you, honorable supervisors and members of the rules committee, i'm mario paz i'm the director of the good samaritan research center we're a 127 anchor institution founded as a settlement house for

newcomers and that continues steadfast. i'd like to show my support for sarah sousa and our great chair. they have shown exceptional leadership and it's been a privilege to serve by their side. i want to thank you for your consideration of my re-appointment and including the residency waivers. it's been an honor to serve on this commission. i've worked hard to assure all immigrant in our communities continue to be able to pursue their dreams and feel welcomed and continue to feel safe in san francisco and that we continue to fight and advocate so they can be successful in our shared society and continue to thrive and prosper. there's been many challenges over the year and covid especially and the multiple hearings from daca to supporting immigrant communities during the pandemic crisis and work with other partners we were able to

again show that san francisco's a leader not just in the state but in the country around immigrant rights and advocacy. thank you again for your consideration, supervisors. >> thank you. with that supervisor chan has any questions for you we'll let gou to your 11:00. thanks for coming by. >> thank you so much. i'm available for questions. >> i think we're good. i think you're done. >> thank you. bye-bye. >> now i understand do we have rene ramesh.

>> do i not see him logged in at this time. >> if he does get on let me know and we'll take him. how about david lat. >> good morning. your hand is up. you're ready to talk. we need to get you unmute. can you unmute yourself? >> hi, supervisor mandelman and supervisor chan and peskin. thank you all for the opportunity to be in front of the board to discuss my qualification and my interests of joining the immigrant rights commission. i know supervisors here before me and it's been an honor to be considered even being here today

as an immigrant who came from burma when i was 12, i never knew i'd be here in front of the board to be seeking an appointment. it's quit a big moment for me. i want to thank you the supervisor for the opportunity. a little bit about myself, i am current director of government relation for s.f. state. i'm proud to represent and serve as spokesperson for the university that is recognized as the third most diverse in the country. i'm proud to work with a lot of daca students on campus and having a robust dream center with daca students. in my senior life i worked very

closely with immigrants and i was in that role for most the trump administration and it was difficult. being from san francisco we have some of the most robust and strong sanctuary policies that makes us a target for the trump fury but it's been incredible to work with the commissioners who are on this call. commissioner connelly and director pawn who has been so in terms of working with our office and being able to navigate through the challenging times during the i.c.e. raids and i'm interested in working with the commission now because in my

role in work with immigrant and to acknowledge the commission's current work on stopping a.p.i. hate. i've met with a professor from s.f. state one of the co-founders of the stop a.p.i. hate center and i think the commission is incredible and the fact that we even have an immigrant rights commission is exceptional. i think i have a lot of to add and i want to leave some time for questions. if supervisors have any questions for me, i'd be answer them. >> thank you mr. latt for your willingness to serve and reaching out and talking to me on friday and i appreciate the conversation we were able to have and i don't have further

questions. supervisor chan, any comments, questions? no. looks like we're good. mr. latt you can go back to doing the work for san francisco state and have a good morning. >> you too, supervisor. >> great. okay. working my way down my list, i think next up we would be taking jane pak but i think she has withdrawn her name from consideration. next we have in come celine kennelly. >> it's lovely to be with you and see you this morning. thank you for having us. so it's been my honor and privilege to serve on the commission since 2012. i was elected to the position of vice chair by the executive committee in october of that year and have had the distinct

horn of serving as chair since january 2015. in the past nine years, i believe the commission has held comprehensive community hearings gathering testimony from the diverse immigrant population on a variety of issues including quality of life, housing, education access as well as roundtable with local staff to understand the issues that presented to the office. from language rights to the sanctuary ordinance, shining a light on the economic opportunities and take lead role on equity the immigrant rights commission has worked with community partners and city departments to ensure inclusive, fair policies and conditions that make san francisco a safe and welcoming place for all people to thrive. it has been my honor to lead a diverse, engaged hard working commission who are committed to our immigrant communities to language access and to racial

equity. they bring a combination of professional and personal experience with commitment to making immigrant lives better and i too would like to put my name in support of the re-appointment of vice chair and commissioners sousa. and in terms of my own role on the commission, as my day job i'm the executive director an organization supporting the irish community in san francisco and the bay area and i've had the distinct honor in my role. i'm an immigrant and director responible for the day to day operations of my organization and community organizer. i look forward to the

opportunity of the work the commission is doing and recently had an hearing on haitian and afghan refugees and look forward to bringing recommendations this the berd -- board on that hearing and held a hearing on anti-aapi hate and well we look forward to continuing that topic for further discussion in the new year as we come back and revisit and take stock on how we have fared as a city and community on that issue. language access, of course, is another issue that's been of huge importance to the commission. we are the overseers for language access compliance through the office of civic engagement and immigrant affairs. it's a topic that appears on our agenda almost monthly and this year we held two hearings on language access. we have done work on reviewing

the ordinance to make recommendations on how it might be strengthened and have taken community feedback to make sure that we are hearing from community and know what is happening. i'm delighted to say that our committee with immigrant affairs are currently analyzing response to our survey from over 2,000 residents of the city and county. so we are out to the community as much as we can it understand what their concerns and needs are. i look forward to at your pleasure serving on the commission for another two years and i thank you for the opportunity. >> thank you, chair kennelly and threw for your work on the commission. i know language access is of importance to all of us and championed by supervisor chan and i'm sure she is appreciative

of your work and with they think we can let you go. have a good day. >> thanks a lot. >> you're welcome, thank you. >> and next up we have commissioner nima hahimi. >> thank you for considering my re-appointment. i've that'd privilege of serving on the commission since 2017. we spent several years hearing about the atrocities against our immigrant communities. i'm a first generation immigrant. my parents moved here when they were in their 20s to go to school and because of the iranian revolution and war with iraq they pivot and started their lives here and were able to find opportunity in the

united states of america but also had to struggle as immigrants to learn a new system. my goal on the commission has always been to be an advocate for immigrant communities and recognize intersectionality of our cause and causes and it would be an honor and privilege to continue serving. i serve on the executive committee with chair paz and chair kennelly and look for re-appointment of chair bragon and vice chair paz and thank you for your time and i'd be happy it answer any question. >> i do not have questions but thank you for the service and thank you for being willing to sign up for another term. >> thank you, both. >> thank you. commissioner rahimi. >> i forgot to mention commissioner sousa.

>> and i see director pon and i think lucia obregon was not able to attend and i believe mr. tanaka has withdrawn and brings us to chair pon. >> i'd like to support the appointment of our five current commissioners and one new applicant including commissioner kennelly and commissioner rahimi

and commissioner obregon and souza and for seat 4 which was vacated earlier this year we support your consideration of david latt. we can use his extensive knowledge and how it impacts local immigrant communities and would be an excellent addition to the i.r.c. thank you to the leadership of vice chair pon and all the s. the commission has been extremely active and productive over the past several years when we need them during an anti-immigrant administration and especially now in economic recovery. so you know, they held over 10 special hearings and issued over nine resolutions and policy advice letters. they've been very busy and

productive. the last two were on forwarding the legislation for paid time off for domestic workers in san francisco. they were behind it many years ago and of course the removing the sunset on non-immigrant voting on school board election. thank you very much for your consideration. >> thank you, director pon. it's my honor to get to chair this item. it is incredibly important to san franciscans and as a grand child of immigrants i think i'm proud of the city and the leadership it's been able to provide on immigrant affairs including allowing non-citizen immigrant to participate in our local democracy. at any rate, supervisor chan do

you have any comments or remarks or thoughts to share? go ahead. >> thank you, vice chair mandelman i appreciate your leadership and i appreciate all the candidates coming forward. it feels like we just really -- i think we literally recently appointed the body and i think that it's critical for them to continue the work they did. i'm happy to propose a motion in that we can possibly propose a motion and open to public comment and with that i also appreciate the comments and i agreed that today i would like to make a motion to appoint david latt to seat 4 and mario paz with the residency waiver

and ms. kennelly and souza to seat 10 and jane pak to seat 11 and happy to hear public comment before we do the roll call for the motion. >> thank you. we'll include in that motion the residency waivers required for david latt and mario paz and open this to public comment. >> yes, members of the public should call 1-415-655-0001 and meeting i.d. is 2482 090 9351 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, press star 3 to line up to

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standard three minutes to provide comment. please ensure that you are in a quiet location, speak slowly and clearly, and turnoff any t.v.s or radios around you. item 1, roll call. [roll call] >> president feinstein: thank you, everybody. the san francisco fire commission acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush

ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as of indigenous stewards of this medland, and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as their responsibility for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights at first peoples. >> clerk: very good.

item 2, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction that does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with a speaker. the lack of a response by the commissioners or department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statemented made during public comment. i will clerk, and there is no one in public comment. >> president feinstein: all right. public comment shall be closed. >> clerk: item 3, approval of the minutes, discussion and possible action. discussion and possible action to approve meeting minutes from the regular meetings on september 22 and october 13,

2021. >> president feinstein: all right. is there anybody on the public comment line? >> clerk: there is no one on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: all right. public comment is now closed. commissioner covington, you are the minutes monitor. >> commissioner covington: i ask that these minutes be leftover. >> president feinstein: what about the minutes from the last meeting? >> commissioner covington: no, those are the same ones. >> president feinstein: all right. so you wish to have it held over to the next meeting. >> commissioner covington: yes, please. >> president feinstein: all right. is there any action to any -- objection from any of the commissioners to that? all right. they will be held over to the next agenda, and i think that's fine. >> clerk: all right. and minutes from the regular meeting on october 13, 2021.

>> president feinstein: and are there any comments or concerns about those meetings? i'm not seeing any hands go up here -- oh, do i need public comment on this, madam secretary? >> clerk: yes, you do, and there is nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: public comment will be closed on those, and is there a motion with regard to those minutes? >> commissioner cleaveland: yes, madam president. i move that we adopt the october 13 minutes as provided to us. >> president feinstein: thank you, commissioner cleaveland. is there a second? then i will second it, and a vote, please. [roll call]

>> clerk: the minutes are approved for -- the october 13 minutes are approved unanimously. going onto the next item, item 4, chief of department's report. report from chief of department, jeanine nicholson. report on current issues, activities, and events within the department since the fire commission meeting on october 13, 2021, including budget, academies, special events, communications, and outreach to other government agencies and the public and introduction of rescue captain beth goudreau for whom the fire commission will present a certificate of appreciation for her heroic efforts on august 16, 2021. report from administration, deputy chief jose velo. report on the administrative

divisions, fleet, and facility status and updates, finance, support services, and training within the department. >> greetings and salutations, everyone, chief feinstein, and command staff. this is my current report on what's happened since the last meeting. as you all are aware, we had a pretty intense storm event over the weekend, and we saw our crews extremely busy. we had 104 calls for downed trees. 32 water and flooding issues, 135 electrical hazard calls, 35 wire down calls, 17 full boxes and approximately 440 e.m.s. calls. it was busy when that rain was coming down. we also had several issues with

our own stations. approximately 15 stations had leaks due to the rain, and as you know, our aging infrastructure is -- is problematic when it comes to events such as we saw this past weekend, but i really want to thank all of our members: e.m.s., suppression, equipment, everybody, for helping to address not just the calls out there but the station issues. chief dewitt, your folks really stepped up, so thank you for that. the good news around covid-19 is it is continuing to decrease in the city at this time. we currently have ten members in the department who are off covid. nine of those are long-term, so greater than 30 days, so we have not seen, knock on wood, many new ones of late, and

regarding vaccinations, as of today, we have approximately 20 people who are not vaccinated. that doesn't include people on disability or long-term leave, and i've been holding administrative hearings with these these members, and once completed, i will forward a report to the fire commission, so that was that. but we did a really good job of getting down around to just around 20 members, although we did have some members who retired due to the covid vaccination, i believe. let's see...recently, assistant deputy chief articeros brown and i met with neighborhoods to discuss neighborhood resiliency

and to discuss how we can be better prepared for incidents and events. so obviously, we talked about nert, we talked about hose tenders. i thought it was a productive meeting and look forward to attending more meetings throughout the city with neighborhood groups. i appreciate it when neighbors are really involved and proactive in their communities. it really will help us in the long run, especially in the event of a major incident such as an earthquake. this morning, chief o'connor did a great job and held a fire drill for supervisors in districts 2 and 3, although our district supervisor, who is our interim mayor, she was there,

captain stefani, and it was up in fort mason to demonstrate how our emergency water supply works and what our fireboat is capable of doing in terms of supplying hose lines and above ground hydrant, above ground system, so thank you, chief o'connor. strong work, and i would also like to thank our fine commissioners, commissioner morgan and commissioner cleaveland, who attended. i think it's really great that we are educating our elected officials so they can understand what our needs are and how these things work. i would like to welcome, although i don't know if he is here. i wanted to welcome captain

soon to be deputy chief ramon [indiscernible]. i wanted to ensure a smooth transition and allow some time for our newly appointed assistant chief, chief serrano, and we will miss you, chief dewitt. so i don't know if chief serrano is on the line or not. >> clerk: he says he's on audio. >> okay. would you perhaps unmute him, maureen, so he can say hello? >> clerk: can he raise his hand so i know which one he is? there's two people -- captain serrano? >> president feinstein: i feel so much better about not being the only person that can't do

this. >> clerk: caller, are you on the line for public comment? >> yes. it is shawn buford, president of the [indiscernible] local 798. >> clerk: okay. so this is public comment. >> yes, and the public comment is on the chief's report. one, i would also like to congratulate captain serrano for his newly employment. also, beth for honoring [indiscernible]. as the chief mentioned, the process with our interviews and local 798 still supports our members who remain on administrative leave as they pursue their legal and mandate abilities to seek accommodations. that's what i wanted to do, to congratulate ramon, to congratulate beth, and to

ensure that our members are able to remain on leave as they pursue reasonable accommodation. thank you. >> president feinstein: all right. we have -- thank you. do we have -- oh, excuse me, chief dewitt. >> [indiscernible]. >> clerk: i have one more caller, please. one more. caller, do you have public comment? hello? >> hello? >> clerk: do you have public comment? >> this is ramon serrano. i apologize. i'm having some major technical difficulties on my computer, so i had to call in on my cell phone. >> go ahead. go ahead, ramon. just say hello, and just introduce yourself if you would. >> thanks, chief. thank you very much, commissioners. i wish you guys could see my face, but i am having some

major issues with my computer, and even my i.t. guy could not fix it, so i just ended up calling in as a caller. thank you so much for the opportunity, chief. i'm looking forward to working with everybody, and i just want to continue all of chief dewitt's hard work, and i won't let anybody down. just a little -- i was born nd raised in the city, and i'm so proud to be a san francisco firefighter. >> thank you so much, ramon, captain serrano, and you have been a long time steadfast member of this department, and i'm excited to have you continue with us on the command staff, so welcome, and you can show your face next time. if i may -- if i may, president feinstein, finish my report? >> president feinstein: of course. >> thank you so much.

i also want to announce that we picked up two therapy dogs, facility dogs yesterday from southern california, and i know that chief velo will show you photos of them in his report, but they will be handled by two of our lieutenants, and they are currently in the bonding stage for the next month before they get a little bit of additional training and then will be handed over officially to us, and we'll make them swear the oath like we do with all of the other officers. and then, i would like to introduce my sister friend, rescue captain beth goudreau.

greetings and salutations, and i know you've been a member of this department 25 years, even though you don't look like it. i've been amazed by your work over the years, whether in the firehouse or in e.m.s. i know you've -- have done and seen some things, and i know it takes a toll, and i want to thank you for stepping up on august 16 of this year. captain goudreau was working that day when we were asked to help with a woman who had drank some -- was it antifreeze, i believe, and she was about 350 miles off the coast. and beth raised her hand and signed up and suited up and got on a helicopter, and it was

pretty turbulent. i'll tell you tell about it a little bit, and beth, i mean this with all due respect, sister, you're a tough piece of meat. you did a great job that evening. but i just want to thank you, beth, for all the work you do, and i believe, president feinstein, you may have something you want to read before we let beth speak? >> president feinstein: yes, i do. what i wish to do -- and good evening, captain. nice to meet you, at least virtually. in discussions with the chief of the department and in figuring out how we could best do this virtually, this is kind of the best we could come up with. at our last meeting, chief

rubenstein ended his last -- well, as part of chief rubenstein's report came from [indiscernible] beautiful, you know -- i shouldn't say beautiful, but a very accurate description of all that you did was presented to the commission and the report. and at this time, i'm going to read that into the record because it should be public knowledge. people should know who you are, what your current [indiscernible] is, and how lucky we are to have you. so if everybody can bear with me while i do that, that would be greatly appreciated. the notable event from august 16 of 2021 was not included in our prior report but highlights

the extraordinary and strong work of rescue captain both goudreau. at approximately 2051 hours, the department of emergency communications received a call from the u.s. coast guard to rescue a 23-year-old female who accidentally ingested antifreeze on a sailboat approximately 380 miles offshore of bodega bay. officers contacted e.m.s., captain neil tagliorini, and he selected the most experienced on-duty rescue captain for the assignment, and that was you. you were the selected one.

as described in the coast guard news release, quote, this was a highly complex medical evacuation performed at night off a small sailboat hundreds of miles of offshore that tested the limits of our crews and equipment. the sailor's life was saved by the dedicated team work of the san francisco fire department and coast guard personnel across eight different units. captain goudreau was able to stabilize a complex medical patient in the most challenging of environments. as conditions changed, the coast guard rescue described it as evolving from a medium risk

high reward rescue to a high risk high reward rescue. the coast guard crew performed a night mission far from coast requiring two ship board fuel stops for the aircraft and deployed a rescue swimmer in turbulent seas. while en route to san francisco international airport for deployment, captain goudreau contacted poison control for a consult and provided an update to command staff. upon arrival with her advanced life support equipment, captain goudreau reached the coast guard personnel and determined what equipment would be necessary for possibly to manage a patient in an unknown status. captain goudreau prepared for

every potential patient presentation, including cardiac arrest, altered mental state, hypothermia, and more. after a turbulent flight lasting several hours and one refuelling aboard a coast guard cutter, contact was made. after the heroic work of the coast guard team to rescue the patient, captain goudreau received the patient and immediately initiated care which included removing wet clothing and treating for hypothermia, obtaining a baseline set of vital signs, and completing a full

assessment. the patient was found to be severely [indiscernible] i don't know what that word means, but don't laugh at me, chief nicholson, and in critical condition. rescue. captain goudreau started an airway, obtained positive blood pressure, obtained e.k.g. -- you can last, captain goudreau. the chief can't. performed shock management and [indiscernible] drip and stabilized the patient under sedation. this complex patient would be a challenge under normal circumstances with an entire team, however, with one e.m.t. to assist in a dark helicopter

with little space flying in turbulent and with possibly a little motion sickness, this would challenge any experienced paramedic. the coast guard helicopter required one more ship board refuelling stop to return. once the aircraft landed at s.f.o., captain goudreau assisted in the transport to san francisco general hospital until the transfer of care approximately nine hours after the emergency call was first received and after sometime in the i.c.u., the patient was released and was last reported to be recovering further at home. quite miraculous, captain goudreau. quite miraculous.

and don't laugh at me anymore, chief nicholson. >> i will not. i apologize, president feinstein, but i would like captain goudreau to speak. but yes, it was intraosseous and [indiscernible]. >> president feinstein: what does that mean, chief nicholson? >> i'll let captain goudreau takeoff with it, but it means that the person was unconscious. captain goudreau, sister? >> thank you for that. i appreciate that. i have to thank the coast guard for making the amazing rescue, and they were all consummate professionals and very good at what they did, and it was far outside their normal operation. i'm honored to part of their team, and i'm -- i am he aglad that i had something to bring to the table, and i'm glad that

i was able to participate and assist and stabilize our young sailor until we were able to get her to san francisco general, and then, of course, acknowledging san francisco general in helping her to a full recovery and helping her to go home. thank you for the acknowledgement. it was a good experience. >> president feinstein: do you know how proud we all are of you? that's the most important thing, and i really appreciate you taking the time to be here this evening before the commission, before your command staff, and just knowing you're the finest of the fine, so thank you, and you're much braver than i. >> thank you. >> president feinstein: even though i don't know what some of the words mean. >> she is very modest, as well, and i can tell her signal is not working particularly well.

that's what that yellow triangle is. her signal has failed, so beth, if you can hear us, thank you so much, and i'm sure some of the other commissioners may like to [indiscernible]. >> president feinstein: do we believe that she can hear us? chief, do you know? >> she said, sorry. i can't hear or see anyone right now. >> president feinstein: well, i think -- i know, commissioner covington, you want to say something -- i'm not sure. >> there she is. she's back with us. >> president feinstein: are you back with us? >> yes. >> president feinstein: all right. >> you guys are all back with me.

>> president feinstein: commissioner covington, did you wish to speak? >> commissioner covington: yes, i was going to suggest that we applaud her in abstentia, but she has come up again, and i think this really does deserve a round of applause from all of us. [applause] >> yes, yes, and yes. >> commissioner covington: oh, my goodness. the description of what happened speaks for itself, and i just really want to appreciate you for, first of all, being called upon and serving and doing what you did when called upon in dire straits. just walking on a boat can be problematic, so having to tend

to an injured person or person in distress is even much, much more stressful, to kudos to you. >> thank you. thank you. >> president feinstein: any further comments from any of the commissioners? yes, vice president nakajo, please. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, madam president. captain goudreau, even though it's virtual, i appreciate you being able to come and be in our presence. part of this is just the proud nature of us being the fire commissioners, but also, in terms of being associated with the members of our department, as well, and virtual doesn't do

you well. this woman is far more in a better place, and what i really appreciate and love about you is the acknowledgement to your colleagues and the coast guard and everybody else that was involved. when i read it, the report, i remarked to assistant deputy chief tong that it seemed like a movie script or a t.v. script that i see all the time on, and it's a real life experience that we in the san francisco fire department share equally with all of your talent but also your dedication, and basically being there, more than there. thank you, captain, for all of your service. thank you. >> president feinstein: thank you, mr. vice president. any further comments or -- ah, commissioner cleaveland. yes.

>> commissioner cleaveland: thank you, madam president, and i would just like to echo my colleagues' comments. captain, you make everybody in the fire department proud. thank you for your service and thank you for your bravery that night. that's it, madam president. >> president feinstein: all right. thank you. i'm seeing no further hands go up. thank you, captain goudreau, for everything you do every day, and i think my colleagues have expressed it best for being able to do what you did under the difficult circumstances, under the most difficult circumstances, and know that's reassuring to us who are civilians and, you know, heaven forbid should something happen, please come

get me. [indiscernible]. >> one of us will be there. >> president feinstein: okay. all right. >> have a safe night. >> president feinstein: thank you. >> thank you, chief. thank you, everyone. thank you, commissioners. >> commissioner covington: thank you. >> president feinstein: and i believe, chief nicholson, you're not done yet, are you? >> that concludes my report, and i am happy to answer any questions. >> president feinstein: all right. thank you. commissioners, questions for the chief? ah, vice president nakajo, please. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, madam president. thank you very much, chief nicholson, for the report. i just wanted to comment, and i'll roll over some of my comments to chief velo's report, but in our packet was a package that described the san francisco fire department

committee work groups and guidelines, and i just wanted to let you know, chief, and the command staff and the members of the department that, again, i haven't been around a little bit and being aware of the community structure that when this information came particularly with the description in terms of the committees and the title of the committees and the chair and the cultures of the committee, i was just very, very much impressed [indiscernible] and it's just really wonderful [indiscernible] and the membership. that really is part of engagement and inclusion with the members. thank you very much, chief. thank you, madam president, and that's my question for chief nicholson at this time. >> thank you, vice president nakajo. >> president feinstein: thank you. any other commissioners with questions or comments for the

chief? all right. and madam secretary, i cannot see you, but is there any public comment? >> clerk: we did public comment, and everybody else has left the line. [indiscernible]. >> president feinstein: we're training him to -- we're getting him ready. next time we want his picture, too, as part of his training. that's good, and i believe that chief dewitt, did you have a comment regarding deputy -- soon to be assistant deputy chief serrano?

>> i did not. i was just trying to say he was trying to listen on audio, and i think he'll do a fantastic job as a civil servant, and i'm glad he was appointed. >> president feinstein: that's the problem with a grid meeting, so forgive me, please, chief dewitt. >> clerk: all right. and chief velo is up next. >> president feinstein: chief velo. >> good evening, president feinstein, deputy chief nakajo, commissioners. this is deputy chief jose velo, and i'm going to share my

presentation. can you all see that? >> president feinstein: yes, yes. >> thank you very much. again, this is my report for the month of september. this is the highlights and also some additions that we had since the last meeting we had in my division and some of the other events we've done in the department. as you can imagine, that's not too many fires going on in the north part of the state, but the south part of the state is still in not great shape, and pretty much we can assure that the north part of the state is out of the fires. so our [indiscernible] so that was the last deployment for mutual aid for the state, so like i said, we might have some

other hazards to respond to, and i've been to fires almost to christmas day, so our fire season is never over in the state. as for training, chief [indiscernible], as you know, we have the 120 class in session. 32 recruits remain from the 42 that started. three injuries led to resignations from the recruits. one resigned and was called to become an open member of the fire department, and two were not promoted. last week, there were training on pg&e emergencies, and we have some props that we can do this week, so that's what we're doing this week. we're training gas fire responses. this week, we had hazmat crew training. crews that are hazmat trained do have to have this training,

and we have to have it every year, and this week, we had a presidio hazmat, and then, our hazmat team [indiscernible] so we practice and then we do scenarios all the time to practice that, too. also at the airport, we had emergency fuel tank forms. they're full of jet fuel that, if they ignite, can cause some problems, so practicing the response is important for us to have that. let's talk about the office of the diversity, equity, and inclusion from chief peoples. we participated in the autumn

festival, the meet and greet, working on that, too, and [indiscernible] possible different platforms and we're working on that i received from d.h.r. we're also happy to announce the new captain of outreach, recruitment and [indiscernible] this is again growing the office what it needs to be and also doing what it needs to be [indiscernible] i has already been doing the outreach already so we're happy to have him on board. our nert teams are busy. now that things are open up a little bit, able to do drills.

[indiscernible] to keep them sharp. chief parks in health and safety and wellness, and coordinated a program [indiscernible] tony boone updating [indiscernible] a lot of things they're required by law to have. we have drafts. we're working on those drafts, and they'll be published soon as they're required. updated documents are brand-new documents that the department has to have. there's also coordinating several events with the doctor's office,

[indiscernible] they do this every year, and we support them all the time and give them the space they need to be able to test our members and detect early if we can. like the chief mentioned, meeting our new therapy dogs, marley and sadie, lieutenant gibbs on the right. we're happy to have them in the department of health and safety, and within a month, we should see them at the stations. [indiscernible] doctor's office very busy. we have low numbers of covid members on leave, and only three cases in the entire month of october. so vaccinations are doing well,

and our members are staying safe. we're introducing through the doctors office and health and safety a new program, a new campaign, 30 in, 30 out, staying healthy throughout your career and beyond. part of that was know your numbers program. we're going to make sure members are healthy not only through their career but after their career. know your numbers. we have 233 total participants at station 49. we also went to station 48 and also we went to the airport, so a lot of members got that information, and now, they can take to their own private care physician and share with them. we're going to get that private information, we'll get raw data and group information and decide what programs of education for our members we can share with them to make

sure that the issues that are popping up, we can tell them where they are. but they are, with that information, going to the primary care, so we had kaiser and m.m.a. help us with that. i want to say with the doctor's office, this past week, [indiscernible] a long time assistant of the doctor's office retired with 47 years of service. she started in october 1980 and just retired this week. captain jose soba continued to do the random drug and alcohol testing program and continues to test negative [indiscernible] to the ones that were done by all the chiefs in the field and

continues to be negative. ensured that all equipment is up to date, and [indiscernible] he's going to be busy with that for the next few months. chief dewitt, always busy, let's talk about facilities. [indiscernible] the pg&e did install the [indiscernible] so now we're waiting for the p.u.c. to come in. we installed the fenders for the boats, and the art installation has been completed. we're working on station 2 generator, there's some delay of supply, and we anticipate january 2022 for that, and we're happy that we're going to have some funding leftover from station 49 so we can move it over to other projects, special generators and all of that, so when bond money is leftover, we can schiff it to another project, so it seems like it's going to be shifted over to

station 49. that's good news. [indiscernible] not only the glass panels but also historical of the fireboat and learn about that, too. so [indiscernible] there's some spla chain issues that prevent some of those parts in coming in. the mobile air, final unit mobile air, the inspection would be 17 november. we will also do an inspection on the trucks that are there, too, and we're hoping to have those trucks in the city. we had a meeting the other day to be able to review the preliminary design of the new

hose extenders, so we're moving forward with that, and we're happy that that's moving forward. and we have completed the new ambulance spec, the new ambulance for the station 49 members, so members of their committee came out to us with different designs, and we incorporated those designs [indiscernible] to come up with a design that meets their needs. chief o'connor, he has a preliminary interim design criteria for the [indiscernible] firefighter emergency water system. it's in final review, and in [indiscernible] to schedule a hearing to review the e.f.w. [indiscernible] water supply report. i know he has scheduled in near and in a future commission meeting to give more detail about these reports, too.

[indiscernible] i think it's very important to note that the earthquake, when the marina was saved, this is exactly how the [indiscernible] came from the fireboat. in this case, we used some yachts that were tied in the marina to bridge the gap between the boat and land-- in

combination with one of our companies that trains in our confined space, heavy rescue, rescue systems, shoring on the right-hand side, we combine and train our members of the military to come to us, so we were there and happy -- it's always volunteer and members of the metro station come and get a good meal. actually, we had members of the military coming to us and later, they used the skills when they were able to deploy. as you know, october is breast cancer awareness month, and this is a great event we had. see, 25 years ago, a couple weeks ago, tour the whole

[indiscernible] looking and search and -- sorry, raising funds for cancer, and what she did was 25 years ago, she raised funds and donated those funds to the [indiscernible] and the consul general of canada came in and gave an award, too. [indiscernible] to have her finish her race here at headquarters and make the donation. that's my report, and i'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> president feinstein: thank you, chief velo. much appreciated. do we have any public comment, madam clerk? >> clerk: we do have somebody on the public comment line. let's -- caller, would you like to make public comment?

>> yes. thank you, commissioner feinstein and other commissioners. this is tom buford, president, san francisco firefighters local 798. first, i'd like to thank chief velo for a comprehensive and thorough report and i'd like to congratulate barbara moreno for her service to our department. i'd like to join in and acknowledge her, and last but not least, i'd like to thank chief o'connor for his words and going around and showing the supervisors and the community the importance of the a.w.s. system and how it works. so again, nice report, chief velo. thank you to barbara and congratulations to chief serrano.

>> president feinstein: thank you. madam secretary, do we have any other public comment? >> clerk: there is no other callers on the line. >> president feinstein: then public comment is now closed. any commissioners? commissioner cleaveland, i think you've got your hand up first. there you go. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you, chief velo, for a really great report. i'd like to echo tom buford's comments regarding chief o'connor, i'd like to commend him for putting these programs together in the future because it will help when we have to go to them for funding for

projects that will enable us to better -- to incorporate our firefighting efforts in the city in the future, so i commend him, and i think he's doing a good job in educating our elected leaders in [indiscernible] what we do [indiscernible] and how we do it [indiscernible] and also commend the chief for bringing a new recruitment manager on board with the appointment of captain hasim anderson, and i'd like to invite him to come to our commission meeting in the future and talk to us a little bit about how he sees his responsibilities as the recruitment manager, really, for the department. and finally, had a question for chief velo, and that was

regarding fire station 7, the replacement. i know it's in the preplanning stages right now, but i hope there's a lot of outreach to the existing firefighters that are working at that station to get their input whether the new fire station comes in, but it's important to go get the temperature taken from the current firefighters and paramedics assign today that station so we -- assigned to that station so we don't run into the problem that we're having with station 16, that we've run into with the pods, where the men and women wanted dormitories. so just getting their real life input about the fire station and what they would like to see in the fire station, and that's all of my remarks, and thank

you very much 6789. >> can i make a remark, commissioner feinstein? >> president feinstein: of course. >> no, that's fine [indiscernible] but very good point about engaging the firefighters and officers at the station, and that's exactly what we're a -- doing at station 13. as you know, it's a public-private project, and captains were heavily involved at the time. we met with them, met with the whole station at the time. they made some good suggestions and modified that for them, too, so we're going to do the same model for station 7. thank you for your comments on that. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. that's all my comments. >> president feinstein: thank

you. comments or questions from any other commissioners? commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, madam president. i've just got a couple of quick questions, but first, i want to really thank barbara moreno. she is just a shining light. she always has such a huge smile for everyone that she encounters, so hopefully, we can entice her to return for the christmas party this year so that, you know, the commissioners can shake her hand and bid her adieu. i wanted to know, chief velo, how many engines are involved in the recall? >> so -- thank you, commissioner covington. we have 11 engines on queue

right now coming back. we're almost ready to go when the recall was announced to us, so we're ready to go on that. they're ready for the recall part, the transmission part that needs to be replaced, so we're just waiting for that. we're confident in the next month or so we'll get those parts and get them in the engines out there. once we get them in, they have to be outfitted with our radios and some other parts. they're in california right now. >> commissioner covington: so it'll be about two months before they can be deployed? >> hopefully, yes. >> commissioner covington: that's the shortest time frame? >> i think so. normally takes us about a month or so to get all the equipment wiring and stuff done. sometimes it can be expedited, but i would say to be

conservative, two months would be the earliest we can get them. >> commissioner covington: okay. thank you. and i can ask you this question or maybe it's more suited for mr. corso, and that is how much money is leftover from the buildout of station 49? >> president feinstein: i think chief dewitt can speak to that. >> commissioner covington: okay. chief dewitt. >> thank you, president feinstein, commissioner covington, and commissioners. the reserves were $1.7 million, and we had several hundreds of thousands of dollars left from portions of the budget that had not been expended, so probably close to $2 million. we do have some work to complete.

there was a change in the fencing. we do have an increase in the cost of the fence because the cost of steel has gone up quite a lot, and there was a change due to the fencing increasing in height, so we'll have close to $2 million by the time all is said and done. >> commissioner covington: well, that's good to know. thank you, chief dewitt, and i hope that during an upcoming report that we will get a chance to see the new fence, the changes that were done. there was a lot of conversation about the fence, about, i don't know, three or four years ago now, so it would be good to update the commission now on what is going to be in place because it wasn't in place at the fantabulous open house. >> we are setting up an appointment to look at it in

the next month or so. >> commissioner covington: very good, and congratulations on keeping costs down. and chief dewitt, i heard a rumor about you us leaving us. >> president feinstein: it was just a rumor. it was just a rumor, commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: yeah, i don't know. it sounded more like an announcement, so any way, we will heap praise upon your head at a different time. >> thank you. >> commissioner covington: okay, thank you. and i think i had just one more -- oh, and that is regarding lieutenant anderson, who's going to be the new person in charge of recruitment. is that still going to be a one-man job or does he have

some kind of staff that's going to be increased? >> commissioner covington, very good question. i'll speak about it, but chief peoples will also speak about that, too. we have hasim anderson and a cadre of folks that are working together that's going to be a cadre that's going to be working on advanced polling recruitment advancing the right targets that we need to do. so it'll be part-time, so it's not a full time position. chief peoples, if you want to expand on that? >> you handled it very well, chief velo. hello, president feinstein, commissioners, as well, and

command staff. yeah, he's hit the ground running here. right now, we're in a lot of the design phase. we're still going to need to train the cadre up to be able to train up the model. we're excited about it. he's not doing it alone. he definitely has the backing of my office and the administration, so we'll take his temperature in a little bit to see how he's doing, and we look forward to giving you a better report. >> commissioner covington: well, thank you, chief peoples. i'm grateful to know there's going to be a more robust presence because i know in the past, there's been some concern about the responsibility. it's good to know that there's going to be someone present for

presentations and there's going to be greater outreach, and thank you to everyone who worked on that. those are all of my comments and questions, madam president. >> president feinstein: thank you, commissioner covington. do any of the other commissioners have questions or -- ah, vice president nakajo. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, madam president. i generally do take advantage of this period and ask my robust questions, and i basically held back last session because we had this long and lengthy robust presentation by d.p.w., so i'm going to return to my questions and not take too long. i'll talk faster on pace.

just to get everybody on target, i'd like to ask about command staff, support services. i also wanted to acknowledge the p.u.c. with deputy chief connors. before i got there, i also wanted to say, though i know it's premature in the sense that chief dewitt, you will retire as announced, and i just wanted to thank you for that service, that dedication. i know there will be a time and period still. i'm aware that we only have two months left in this calendar year, and i also wanted to

congratulate chief stephano. my first question is with the assistant deputy chief of training. i'm not sure if this is appropriate for you, deputy chief, but the question was in terms of the training, and i know that we have a training class, and now, i don't need to go into details because chief velo gave some description of that, but i'm interested in perhaps, through the chief, chief nicholson, i wanted to ask about the ratio of retirement versus classes coming in and some comment by you on what do we look like as a department as we move

forward? i also would like to have some comment or some information in terms of when the next class is projected and whether this might be an appropriate forum, so thank you, chief nicholson, if you have some response for me, or chief nicholson, is that line of questioning appropriate? >> yes, vice president nakajo, thank you very much s. over the past two years, we've had well over 100 retirements. i think closer to 140 or 150, and then, covid hit, and we were only able to hire a class of 25 last year. we now have a class that started around 40 and it's down to 35 now in the division of training. we are starting another class of 50 in january, and we have a class of 50 in august, and we are currently in conversations with the mayor's budget office

to add an additional class of h-2s for next year, as well. we are definitely short personnel. we are also -- and chief tong can speak to this -- hire a number of ambulance personnel, a class of 40, and they should be starting next month, and i'm happy about that, and they should be out by the end of december, i believe, and -- is that right, chief tong? end of december, yes or no? no, january. they should be out in january. the h-2 academy that's in now should graduate on december 23, so put that in your calendars. it's a wednesday, i believe,

for graduation, so we are looking to definitely beef up our staffing. it takes time, however, to get folks through the classes, but our division of training, both suppression and e.m.s., are very, very busy. also on the e.m.s. side, we have community paramedicine training and street medicine training. so there's a lot going on, a lot of balls in the air, and i just want to thank everyone for doing the hard work, chief tong and chief kailoa, and i hope that answered your question. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, chief nicholson. just for clarification and at some point, i'll conclude in this area, i'd like to hear something from chief kailoa and

his perspective as to where we are in terms of training. again, you answered my question in terms of the ratio of retirees to those coming in. i was waiting fast, did you say three classes in 2022, a class of 50 in january, a class of 50 in august, and possibly another class of h-2s after august? is that what you heard? >> so thank you, vice president. it will definitely be a class in january, and then, again, we are working with the mayor's budget office to see if we can add another class, and if so, we would like to overlap it in between the january and august class, so -- and, you know, we may push the august class to september. it just depends, but it's --

it's still -- we're still having conversations about it. we haven't gotten funding for it yet. >> commissioner nakajo: and are we talking about paramedic e.m.t.s or are we just talking about one particular class, paramedics or e.m.t.s, when you throw that number 40 out? >> chief tong, i believe these are 40 e.m.t.s. can you confirm that? >> yes. the november 29 class that starts up will have up to 40, maybe a little more level is only, and then, the thing that we're preparing for for a february class will be paramedics only, and then, if we get additional funding, we might be looking at a class that might start at the end of

april that might be a hybrid class. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, chief tong. through the chief, again, i'd like to ask chief k -- kailoa about that. i'd just like to get some confirmation from the chief. >> yes, so 50 -- we've done it before in the academy. we've done up to 56. we have a division of training in the fire department, and we are working collaboratively to support that logistically and staff wise, but i'm confident that we can do that and support

any plan that we come forward with to bridge that gap in the staffing. >> commissioner nakajo: appreciate that comment and that input very much. part of my comment was as veterans or experienced staff retire, we hire what i call the term the next generation, but i also concern myself with the years of experience that we lose, the institutional knowledge base, if you will. i'll just say that because it gets reinforced to me every day. last week, i was shopping with my wife, and she commented how

big and tall they were, and that made me realize how young they were. thank you very much for that, chief velo. i'd like to move on, if possible. i'd like to move to airport division, chief brown. i just wanted to get an update, chief brown, as to the holidays coming, thanksgiving first, christmas coming up. we heard there's more activity at the airport. do you want to give us an update, please? >> sure, commissioners. madam president, vice president nakajo, second, commissioners, chief and command staff, vice president, the numbers haven't increased overall. we're still about half of what

we were before covid. we're still at about 50,000 passengers. i haven't heard anything about a huge influx of passengers over the holidays, but obviously there'll be a slight increase over the numbers of the last two years. >> commissioner nakajo: okay. i wanted to get a hearing because the media keeps portraying that folks are going to keep taking air flights as things keep opening up and things keep getting better. through the chief, i'd like to move onto division equity. chief peoples, i'm on page 15 of your report, and i think you answered it. i see from september 13 all the way down to september 17, it's titled 129 virtual interview panel. what i'm believing is that you are part of the interview process for the recruits and in class 129, is that a correct

assumption? >> thank you, vice president nakajo. yes, my office coordinates the interview for the initial on boarding of our candidates, so yes, we coordinated that. we brought in about close to 500 individuals to interview. some of that were up in the different fires that were deployed all over the state couldn't make the physical interviews, so we made arrangements for them to be virtually interviewed. >> commissioner nakajo: all right. thank you very much, chief peoples, for that. i'm going to move on, chief velo, to the physician's report, and since the doctor is not here, i just want you to know that i read the newsletter, and i read it all the way through. not only do i read it all the way through, i was impressed that dr. janet ryan participated in the over 50

category of the triathlon. i'm having a tough time walking down the street. it's really an inspiration to be able to have that position. the other thing is barbara moreno. i was very pleased to see that. i did 45 years in japantown, but to see someone 41 years in civil servant, that's quite remarkable. i've known barbara since she was a child, so i really, really appreciate her service. i just wanted to acknowledge her activity, chief velo. i'm moving onto support services, could chief dewitt. what always happens, chief dewitt, is your section is

large and inclusive, so it takes time. the only thing that sticks out again is this station 35 delay. i think when d.p.w. was here, and i hope they're listening tonight, that issue of discussion became more of an issue of oversight, so as these newsletters come from d.p.w., chief velo, i used to glaze as it, but now, i read it all the way down to the calendar. i think your location, chief dewitt, is pretty self-explanatory of another delay with 35, but basically the justification is there. i was somewhat concerned as the presentation by d.p.w., there was a budget aligned with that

presentation that had some effect upon us, and i'm not going to say anything until i'm more versed, and i, through the chief and president, would like to get some more information through mr. corso, but at this point, i appreciate your work and your oversight, chief dewitt. thank you. the last part is chief connor. chief o'connor, on page 47, again, thank you for your drill. i understand both this morning that commissioner cleaveland and commissioner morgan was there. thank you for that. i wanted to note that, in your report, chief o'connor, that i noticed that there's a little bit of red here, and i just wanted to let you know that the red standing out document,

sections of that, is helpful, at least to me, because it makes me pay attention more to the way that you formatted your report, so thank you for your good work, and i'm looking to more announcement of drills. that's all i have, madam president. thank you very much. >> president feinstein: thank you, vice president. further comments from any of the commissioners? i'm not seeing any hands. i had one question i wanted to ask, and i'm not sure, chief velo, if i should direct this to you or to chief kailoa or you would like to have him answer. and i'm just curious, what tends to be the reason that folks fail outside of the academy? i notice that we had two.

is this a normal rate of failure? is this what we expect? i don't know how it works, and i'd like some additional information. >> madam president, i'm pleased to answer the question. i was also a training chief years ago, so i know how it works. so normal failure rates in the academy nationwide are about 10%, so this is well below that. our folks are doing everything they can to support this recruitment. they're coming in early, staying until late at night, so their staff is putting their heart and soul into these recruits. only having two failures i think is a success of staff. when a failure happens, we have a number of deficiencies. when we fail in evolution and skill, you fail at a certain

point. many times, it's a safety skill that an individual failed to do something that's safe that can cost lives in the field. the recruits get 18 deficiencies in the academy in ten weeks of testing. if they go below that, they get through the academy, and if they go above that, they fail out of the academy because they're not performed to the standard that we demand of that. >> president feinstein: and i do know of the support that is afforded by the instructors at the academy, and it's extensive, and i know there'

every desire and attempt made to retain these candidates. just as a follow up, i guess, is there a point in time -- i guess, at what point in the academy do they determine it's a failure? is it by point or failure or time? >> so just to be clear, when they're at the academy, they're obtaining points. each skill may have individual time constraints that they also have to pass to put [indiscernible] to have x amount of time to do that. if they don't do that, that's failure of the evolution of the skill. so we do have time constraints of that. we have ten weeks of testing, so we don't start that right

away. we start that at week four and then go ten weeks after that. we're a certified academy from the state. after our own testing, our own skills, we do have tests that we form that are done by the [indiscernible] we also have hazmat materials. we have e.m.t. skills that they have to pass, so it's very comprehensive, very demanding for these recruits. when i came in, it was only 14 weeks for the academy. now, it's 20 weeks, so definitely the skills they have to learn have increased, but it's time on the points, negative points, number 18 is deemed a failure. >> president feinstein: i see. so at that point, it's actually the fewer than the average or what you might expect to have. >> yes.

>> president feinstein: i understand. okay. and i've always wondered this, so i'm going to bring it up now. two accidents, you said, in your report. there were two accidents that occurred, that came up under, i think, substance abuse testing or what have you, and i'm just curious about them because we don't learn about them. >> so the two actions that were tested by captain sullivan, we have a rigorous after -- post action testing program that's done, and when captain sullivan is available, he'll be summoned to test the individual for alcohol and drugs, but if it's after hours, we have someone else. many times, there's other drivers that come to us, and we have policy and procedures that when our drivers are tested

for -- for an accident, we have criteria for that. >> president feinstein: you've had more than two accidents this past month? >> yes. >> president feinstein: and do they have anything in common? >> so we do have an action review committee, and the action review committee is also gathering data to share that information with us on what is the common spaces. many times, it's navigating through this tough city that vehicles try to go around us and hit us. this morning, we had a vehicle hit us. many times, with these large vehicles, it becomes difficult, but there's not a common thread. >> president feinstein: and just so that somebody doesn't think i'm trying to say something that i'm not, i'm

amazed when i'm driving, that people don't pull over or try to cut in front of a fire truck or an ambulance. as i say, there's never a traffic cop around when you want them. i can understand that these are hard to maneuver and difficult. that's why you have all of these people, and i just was curious as to [indiscernible] i just did not pay as much attention or as much as i should have to these accidents, and i was just curious to acquire a little bit of information because i bet it costs a lot of money to repair a rig that's damaged, and let's hope their insurance pays for it or they have insurance. >> well, i would say that most

of them from here on are minor damage to vehicles. but yes, if the driver of the other vehicle is at fault, we will bill the insurance company. >> president feinstein: thank you. i appreciate it. simple questions from me tonight, so that's all that i have. okay. so we are moving on -- oh, there's madam secretary. >> clerk: item 5, commission reports. report on commission activities since last meeting of october 13, 2021. >> president feinstein: and does anybody have anything they wish to report? i think we know -- ah, commissioner cleaveland. yes, sir. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you, madam president.

yes, i had a long conversation with james lee, the [indiscernible] strategic plan for 2022 [indiscernible]. >> president feinstein: commissioner cleaveland, i'm going to interrupt you for a moment. am i the only person that's having an audio problem? are others -- yes, for some reason, your audio is breaking up. >> commissioner cleaveland: oh, well, i thought you were breaking up. so i'm sorry, but i just wanted to report that the guardians of the city have put together a three-year strategic plan, and hopefully, in the near future, we can agendize that, and they will present it to us for

approval. >> president feinstein: all right. thank you. >> commissioner cleaveland: that's all i have to say. thank you. >> president feinstein: thank you. anybody else have anything they wish to report? seeing no hands, so madam secretary? >> clerk: and there's nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: well, thank you. >> clerk: item 6, agenda for next and future fire commission meetings. >> president feinstein: all right. any commissioners that wish to have anything agendized for future meetings? yes, commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: i would just like to know what is already on the suggested list?

madam secretary? >> clerk: suggestions -- i believe vice president nakajo wanted a report out on station 18, and there was a suggestion on the update for the training facility, which i understand may be premature at this time, and i believe that's all i had. >> commissioner covington: oh, okay. thank you. i have nothing -- >> president feinstein: i'm sorry. are you done, commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: yes, i am. >> president feinstein: vice president nakajo. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, madam president. i wonder if it's possible if we can get the fire marshal to do an updated presentation on fire

prevention only because there's so much going on in terms of parklets and shared space. realizing we only have three more meetings left, i believe -- i think it's two in november and one in december, i can understand that if it can't be agendized, it might go into next year, but when the administration report comes out or the operation report comes out if that's appropriate. >> president feinstein: thank you, thank you, and we will try to get that as soon as we can. thank you. any further items? i'm not seeing any hands. all right then. >> clerk: and there is only actually one meeting in november and one in december. >> president feinstein: yes, that's correct. >> clerk: but regular, and there's nobody on the public comment line. >> president feinstein: all

right. and public comment is closed. >> clerk: item 7, adjournment. >> president feinstein: all right. >> commissioner covington: so moved. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> president feinstein: thank you, commissioner covington, and thank you, commissioner cleaveland, for the second. are we ready to vote on adjournment? >> clerk: we are ready to vote. [roll call] . >> clerk: this meeting is adjourned at 6:37. . >> president feinstein: very good. thank you all.

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