>> october 26, 2021. commissioner called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m. [roll call] madame president, we do have a quorum. >> thank you. >> the san francisco port commission acknowledges we're on the homeland of the original

habbitants of the land and they have not forgotten their responsibles as the caretakers for this place and for all people to resigned their traditional territory. as guests we recognize we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ncestors and relatives and affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. item 2 is approval of minutes for the october 12, 2021 port commission meeting. >> so moved. >> second. >> we have a motion and a second. can we please have a roll call vote. >> [roll call] >> the motion passes. the minutes of the october 12,

2021 meeting have been adopted. next i'm did, item please. >> executive session 1a for pier 94 and 92 and lot 52 has been removed from the agenda. the port commissioner will not meet in closed session on that item. item 3 is public comment on executive session. >> thank you. we will now open the phone lines to take public comment on executive sessions. for members of the public joining us on the phone, jennifer will be our operator and will provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. we'll open the queue for anyone on the phone who would to make comment on executive session. press star 3 and others will

wait on mute until their line is open. comments are limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please press star 3 if you wish to make public comment >> thank you. do we have anyone on the line? >> at this time there are no members of the public on the line wishing to make public comment. >> seeing no callers on the phone, public comment is closed. next item, please. >> that would in item 4, executive session. >> may i have a motion to go to closed session. >> so moved. >> is there a second? >> second. >> thank you. we have a motion and a second. carl, can we please have a roll call vote. [roll call] .

>> the motion passes unanimously. we are now in closed session. . >> clerk: [roll call] >> president brandon: okay. we are now in open session. can i please have a motion to not discuss anything in closed session. >> commissioner: i make a motion to not discuss anything we discussed in closed session. >> commissioner: i second. >> president brandon: roll call vote, please. >> clerk: [roll call]

>> president brandon: the motion passes unanimously. next item, please. >> clerk: okay. that would be item number six, the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it stands one nation, under god, in divisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> clerk: item seven is announcements. please be advised that a member of the public has up to three minutes to address items on the agenda. during the public comment period, the moderator will instruct dialed participants to make a public comment and audio prompt will signal participants when it is their turn to comment. please dial in when the ute you

wish to comment on is announced. so when the item you'd like to comment on is announced, dial (415) 655-0001. and enter access code 24879827469 and pound. and then when public comment on the item is announced, dial star three to raise your hand to comment and listen for an audio prompt to signal that it is your turn to comment. and for meeting participants please turn off your cameras when you're not presenting. that would lead us to item eight. comments on items not listed on the agenda. >> president brandon: we will provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would

like to provide public comment. >> commissioner: commissioner brandon, i just want to mention commissioner wooho is on the line. >> we have two callers on the line. >> president brandon: please open the line. >> thank you.

>> president brandon: hello? >> caller: hello. can you hear me? >> president brandon: yes. we can hear you now. >> caller: yes. i was calling to speak on getting some support from you guys. i work for san francisco bay railway. we want to join a union. we have tried to join with local 350. that didn't work out. we have tried to join with local three and that didn't work out. and they told us why and the whole yard wants to go union and management is basically fighting us on it. they're holding audience

meetings trying to deter us from going union saying that they, you know, won't be able to work with us directly. it will all have to go through the union now. they won't be able to talk to us no more and the lawyers they have are trying to drag this out for years if possible. we just would like your guys' support and anything you guys can do to help us get this moving hopefully faster so we can unionize and become a union at the port which everybody else is but us. >> president brandon: and what's your name? >> caller: benjamin locke. >> president brandon: benjamin, thank you so much for your call. next caller, please. >> thank you. opening the next line. >> caller: hi. can you hear me?

>> president brandon: yes. >> caller: thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is doug block and i am with teamsters joint council seven calling on behalf of 7,000 teamsters in northern california and the central valley. we just heard from one of these brave workers who is trying to organize with a union. his employer is public service which is one of our largest employers in the waste and recycling industry in the united states. we have a lot of friends on this commission, a lot of friends on the board of supervisors and we always thank you for your support. and we're going to need your support. we're just asking for the republic to give us card check resignation so we can get this out of the way so workers can organize and bargain for better wages and working conditions.

there's nine workers. all nine of them signed cards to be members of the teamsters union and we would appreciate whatever support you can give us. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. are there any more callers? >> yes, president brandon, there's one more caller on the line. >> president brandon: please, open the line. >> okay. thank you. opening the next line. >> caller: good afternoon, commissioners. my name is carey doll. i'm the organizing director for the union that's organizing the workers, ben locke from whom you've heard and his eight co-workers from san francisco railway. this is so you're all clear, this is the small rail yard off of 103rd street by pier 96 and question have been successful in getting the support of all nine workers at the railroad. as you heard, they are very clear they want to union. they tried with two other

unions as been pointed out and the complication there was the unions tried to organize them under the national labor relations act when because they're a railroad, they're covered by another piece of legislation called the railway labor act. so the union for which i organize is specific to the railway act. we have great expertise. we are the railway division of the international brotherhood of teamsters. so, you know, in recent years, about a couple years ago, republic services purchased san francisco bay railway which was basically a mom and pops shop had embraced the union standard in the railway industry and had very content workers working for them. that changed with republic services. i won't go into all of the details, but the workers are anxious as you can tell for

union representation. and they're anxious to get it done quickly. this being in san francisco, our expectation is that this employer is going to be a union-friendly and cooperative employer, but so far, they've been looking to delay the process by going through a railroad specific federal organization. it's not going to be ready to take action i'm being told until next year to run an election for this group. but what we think is a better process is to protect the workers, you know, rights to exercise their voice with freedom and fairness by doing what we call a card check neutrality process whereby we get a neutral figure to agree upon and take a look at the list of workers that the employer provides and make a determination as to whether or not the brotherhood of

maintenance has the majority status to work for. if the neutral were to make that designation, then we would move into negotiation and look into have a cooperative process to achieve justice for these workers. so we are very grateful that you're hearing us out today and we are looking for your support in terms of making sure that the will of these workers is respected as we move forward. so i'm hoping to answer any questions that you all might have, but, again, thank you very much for your time this afternoon. >> president brandon: thank you. are there any more callers? >> president brandon, at this time, there are no other callers on the phone wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. seeing no other members of the public on the phone wishing to make public comment, public comment is closed. director forbes, can i ask you

to reach out to these gentlemen and help them with this issue if possible. >> yes. i'll reach out. thank you. >> president brandon: carl. next item, please. >> clerk: that would be eight nine, executive director's report. >> good afternoon. i'm elaine forbes, the executive director of the port of san francisco. first, i'd really like to recognize all the port staff who work this weekend during this very big atmospheric river storm. this past week, we experienced more than 4" of rainfall in the city and more throughout the region resulting in downed trees, power lines, light poles, and flooding. dozens of city workers including our port maintenance, maritime, and emergency preparedness staff have stepped up as they have time and time

again during the past 20 months to make sure our waterfront is prepared and able to withstand a storm. and literally we withstood a storm this past weekend. responding to incidents up and down the waterfront. i couldn't be prouder of their work and all our essential workers who have braved the elements to keep us safe. in my report today, i'll provide an update on economic recovery and equity and provide key project updates. so first with economic recovery. last friday in partnership with our city departments, we cut the ribbon on phase two of the jefferson street scape improvement project in the fisherman's wharf area. the project includes sidewalks, street lamps, landscaping and the addition of trees. the jefferson street improvements make fisherman's wharf more inviting and will

ensure this destination is around for generations more to enjoy. as the mayor proclaimed at the ribbon cutting, the wharf is open and what better way to welcome visitors back. fisherman's wharf is a special community home to many small family businesses that have been around for many generations. we expect it will help the economic recovery with the return of allows of visitors. the majestic princess is departing tonight and we'll have 17 more vessels coming this year to be followed by a record 127 calls next year. shout out to our maritime division. this weekend on halloween, we're proud to welcome the ruby princess for her first port home call at the san francisco port. she will be sailing to various sought after destinations including mexico, hawaii, the california coast, alaska, the

panama canal, on 5-15 day cruises available for booking through 2023. coincidentally, last week, the port hosted our mayor and city department heads for the mayor's monthly staff meeting at the james r. herman cruise terminal. it was an excellent opportunity to show off the cruise terminal, but also to highlight all the fantastic work staff is doing to help the port and its tenants recover from the impacts of covid-19. now, i want to highlight some equity work we are doing. last friday, we launched our mobile vendor pilot program that offers new economic opportunities to small entrepreneurs. this program establishes regulations that will allow for all residents and visitors to safely enjoy the natural and recreational benefits of an inclusive waterfront. to date, we've already received 30 applications and we've issued permits to 22 vendors.

up to three vendors may vend from 17 approved locations up and down the waterfront. mobile vendors like the street performers will enrich the waterfront experience by adding color, life, and vibrancy. at the request of commissioner gilman staff will be providing an update in your december meeting on the presentations. next week, the office of economic and workforce development is hosting its first ever hospitality industry meeting at the ferry building november 3rd, '10 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. oewd is working closely with the ferry building and ensuring they are lining up qualified job seekers for available jobs at ferry building merchants and beyond. now, i'm going to turn to key projects. i have two today first the

rehabilitation of two existing buildings at crane cove park. after conducting its formal rfp process for each building, port staff reported this growing result of the rfp through an informational item to the port commission on september 14th. and then to the port's southern advisory committee on october 6th. based oven the results from the rfp, you'll note today's agenda has a recommendation from staff to the ymca of san francisco. for the niece building, i have authorized staff to terminate the rfp process because neither proposal added the state objectives listed. we look forward to returning to the commission at the appropriate time in the future to determine the next steps for

this building which will likely include reassuring of an rfp with the refine set of objectives and scoring criteria. secondly, i'm proud to report we are welcoming the last of our telecommuting employees back to our office safely on a hybrid schedule november 1st. i want to thank all port staff and especially thank the covid return to work team for all their work preparing a safe return to our offices at pier 1. and that concludes my director's report. thank you very much. >> president brandon: thank you, elaine. now, we will open the phone lines to take public comment on the executive director's report. for members of the public who are joining us on the phone. we'll provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public

comment on the executive director's report. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limit today three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have anyone on the line? >> president brandon, at this time, there are no members of the public on the phone wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. seeing no callers on the line, public comment is closed. commissioner woo ho. commissioner gilman. oh, there she is.

>> commissioner woo ho: i just wanted to offer comments and just mention that -- so i'm not going to stay long because my technical issues are still with me. but anyway. thank you, elaine. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: thank you, director forbes, for the great report. i'm really excited to see that cruising is coming back to the bay and i walked jefferson street today and the improvements are wonderful and i hope it will provide economic vitality back to the port. congratulations to you and your staff on all your hard work. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner burton. >> commissioner burton: thank you everything's good. >> president brandon: great. vice president adams. >> vice president adams: director forbes, again a stellar report. thanks again for all your work.

i really appreciate your temperament. you're very patient and your staff, you've shown yourself to be a good leader i know the commissioners were a handful, but you get through it and we all have the passion like your staff because we want the best port in the world and withbelieve that, so that's why we strive hard. and so thank you for all your work. >> president brandon: thank you. director forbes, thank you so much for your report and i want to thank all the staff that stepped up this weekend because that was a major storm. so i really appreciate everybody that came out to help our tenants and all of our guests at the waterfront. and, also, i want -- it's exciting about the cruise ships returning to the port of san francisco and i was at fisherman's wharf not last weekend but the weekend before and i saw the upgrades to the

street and to the triangle parking lot setting. it's a really nice job to welcome all of 0 our visitors back to fisherman's wharf. so thank you for all your work that's going on at the port. thank you. carl, next item, please. >> clerk: item 10 is consent. request authorization for a two year maintenance dredging program. construction contract number 2842. that is resolution 21-44. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioners, may i have a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> commissioner: so moved. >> commissioner: second. >> president brandon: we have a motion and a second. now, let's open it up to public comment. we will open the phone lines to take public comment on the consent calendar. for members of the public who are joining us on the phone

we'll provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on the consent calendar. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open, others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have anyone on the phone? >> president brandon, at this time, there are no callers on the phone wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. seeing no callers on the phone, public comment is closed. we have a motion and a second. carl, can we please have a roll call vote. >> clerk: [roll call]

>> president brandon: thank you, carl. motion passes. resolution 21-44 is adopted. next item, please. >> clerk: item 11a request the determination of department of homelessness and supportive housing's. h.s.h.'s exercises of the option to extend the memorandum of the understanding number m16518 between port and h.s.h. for temporary use of a portion of a seawall lot 330 and that would be resolution 21-45. >> good afternoon, president brandon, vice president adams,

commissioners, executive director forbes. my name is kim bail. i'm senior property manager for real estate and development and i'm joined today by randy casada, director of communications and emily cohen with hsh and we will be discussing hsh's compliance of the exercise of option conditions required for hsh to extend operations of the embarcadero safe navigation center for an additional 24 months. so i will be providing a brief overview of the key m.o.u. terms and the exercise of option conditions followed by emily who will be providing a summary who will meet those conditions after which randy will be discussing the advisory committee's assessment of hsh's actions and we will be concluding with staff's recommendations. next slide, please.

so in june of 2019, hsh entered into an m.o.u. for approximately 47,000 square feet of paid seawall land. this was for construction for a navigation center for temporary housing. at the time we were negotiating the m.o.u., staff was planning to issue an rfp for the entire site, so possession was therefore limited to 56 months, and this 56 months covered construction to 24 months initial operating the 24 months if the option were exercised as well as time for demobilization. so if the option is exercised, the space will need to be vacated by the end of first quarter of 2024 and the current

schedule for the t.c.c. proposal so if the option is exercised, it will not impact construction activities or the r.f.p. the base rent which we entered into initially is $6,730 per month, that is increased annually. and hsh was also given rent credits not to exceed $364,500. but were beneficial to the development. so these are things like bringing domestic water and installation of the sewer as well as electrical improvements to the site. next slide, please. so the option of exercise conditions that needed to be

met were showing a reduction of the number of unhoused in the outreach zone and the outreach zone is defined as 'the area bordered by market, 4th, and bay streets.' there also needed to be an increase in public safety and cleaning resources within a safety zone. and a safety zone is characterized as the areas between folsom, 2nd street, and the embarcadero to the ferry building. they were to provide regular reports on crime statistics and other community impact measures in the safety zone and then finally, hsh and their operator five keys needed to be in compliance with the good neighbor policy. next slide, please. and this slide gives you a visual, again, of what we are calling or what was defined as the safety zone and the

outreach zones. next slide, please. and, with that, i'm going to turn it over to emily. >> good afternoon, commissioners, president brandon, vice president adams. thank you very much for having me. my name is emily cohen and i'm the deputy director with the department of homelessness and supportive housing. i'm going to talk a little bit more today about the program that we've operated at the embarcadero, the safe navigation center, and to discuss the ways in which hsh has met the conditions to extend the m.o.u. these conditions were developed in partnerships between the port and hsh within the community and during pre-covid times. as things shifted so dramatically during covid, especially for our homeless response system, i'm just incredibly grateful for the communicate staying at the

table for us. we've move tuesday to a virtual table, but they have stayed at the table with us throughout the pandemic to discuss the impact and operations of the navigation center. i really want to appreciate five keys and the partners both on site and in the community who have helped to make this project so successfulment we're really proud of the work that we have done in partnership with the community to meet the conditions outlined in the m.o.u. and we know, of course, that there is room for improvement and we always appreciate the continued input for members of the embarcadero community advisory group and the community members who come to our regular meetings to tell us about their experiences with the program. next slide. i do want to highlight some key successes of the program. as you know, it opened in late december, just before the pandemic hit and it is operated

by five keys. when the pandemic struck, we had to quickly pivot the operations of the program and implement the spread of covid-19 and implement mitigation strategies not just at the shelter but across our homeless response system. even with all of those changes, we continue to provide really critical services at embarcadero. in april 2020, the city worked to transition covid-vulnerable guests out of the embarcadero navigation center to shelter-in-place hotels. so we identified 29 guests early on at embarcadero who were either older adults or had complicating medical factors that made them especially vulnerable to covid and we were able to remove them from the congregate setting and get them into hotels.

we also implemented social distancing and adopted a whole covid-informed bed capacity as well as safety protocols. we did move at this time from an outreach based referral to a centralized referral, but even with that, we were able to keep the focus on the safety and outreach zones for people living unsheltered. since the program opened, it's served approximately 400 guests and really had an incredible impact on their lives. it's been a very stabilizing force in peoples' lives. and one of the other big changes i forgot to mention is that we really in an effort to keep the community safe during covid, we really tried to hold the community steady, so we didn't have a lot of coming and going early on in the pandemic in terms of new guests being integrated. we really wanted to hold that

community as sort of your bubble, if you will, for folks experiencing homelessness. so really trying to keep the community as safe as possible and we were very successful at that. next slide, please. in terms of outcomes, the system as a whole has been really moving forward to place people into housing. over 1,300 households have been housed in supportive housing between march of 2019 and june 2021, and 36 guests from the embarcadero were housed either directly from the program or moved in to our shelter-in-place hotels and then were moved into permanent housing. one of the other big successes coming out of this project is the impact it's had on the community. we have seen a 90% decrease in unsheltered homelessness within the outreach zone from the time before, when we first started tracking this before the

project opened until our most recent count in august. as i mentioned before, the navigation center currently has -- sorry. the navigation center -- 48% of the people who have exited the navigation center have enrolled in other shelters within the homelessness response system. like i said before, either directly from the program or after they went to a hotel and then into housing. next slide. kimberly talked about the conditions outlined in the m.o.u., the conditions needed to be met in order for this option to extend and we are pleased to report that we have met these conditions. the first one, condition a, next slide, is to demonstrate a decreased unsheltered

homelessness and as you can see from this table there's been a pretty dramatic reduction in the area both in the outreach zone and in the safety zone. condition fee was enhanced cleaning services in the area. sfpd has assigned four officers to the safety zone. sfpd is part of the working group who reports crime statistics monthly and these stats demonstrate the distinct incidents within the zone have decreased by 22% between march 2019 when we started tracking this to august 2021. hsh has also worked with five keys, the nonprofit operator of the navigation center to provide dedicated cleaning services in the area.

five keys has dedicated staff that provide cleaning services along the program and those are conducted one to two times each shift or three to five times a day. five keys is also coordinating with east cut to make sure we're providing complementary services. we did get feedback from the advisory group and in response to that feedback, five keys has updated guidance on how and when to use the five keys public text number in case there is needed cleaning services along the perimeter of the facility. in september, we -- and we looked at the data of the calls that had come in the previous time. in september 2021, five keys received and responded to sudden text messages from the community about needing

cleaning services. next slide. condition fee was that the department provide quarterly reports on crime stats and other impact measures within the safety zone around program utization and outcomes. and hsh is in partnership with sfpd have submitted these reports in august 2019, all of which are publicly posted on the port's website and are shared and discussed during the regular meetings of the advisory group. these monthly reports specifically include crime stat dash boards, monthly utilization and outcome measures for the program as well as verbal reports from hsh and five keys. we have added new written reports on dedicated cleaning efforts by five keys into that monthly reporting template based on requests from the community. and these reports have evolved. if you go to the website and

look at them, you'll see they've gotten better and better each month because we take the feedback of the community very seriously and tried to integrate that into our regular presentations. next slide. condition d, i won't read the good neighbor policy to you but this is what's included in our contract with five keys and we feel confident that five keys has been in compliance with all nine components of the policy. hsh and our providers are really proud and are always working with the community to do better. so we appreciate ongoing feedback from the advisory group and any areas where we might need to improve and i think the recent requests for better response to the text message line is one area that's a good example of how we've responded to community need and pivoted and improved our

service to meet that request. so i will stop there. those are the four conditions. they were outlined in the m.o.u. and i'm happy to answer any questions from commissioners about, you know, how we've done that in partnership with the community and, you know, look forward to continuing our partnership with the port for the next two years. thank you very much. >> next slide, please. thank you. this is randy casada, communications director for the port. i wanted to briefly jump in to talk about the navigation center's advisory group. the group has been meeting virtually throughout the pandemic. members include representatives of nearby residential developments and neighborhood stakeholders like the south beach rincon mission bay

neighbors association. city partners at the table include supervisor haney's office, hsh, the san francisco police department, and, of course, the port staff. there has been broad consensus that the option exercise conditions have been met. as emily alluded to, this group has been very much a problem-solving table from the very beginning where ideas, issues have been presented, discussed and quick action has been taken. [please stand by]

has been really remarkable and the group is, you know, understandably concerned about the progress and how it will evolve in a sort of non-pandemic gain and a framework after health conditions continue to improve and they would like to see a gradual round up and at the beginning but covid rules being what they are, capacity was limited to 91 guests. that said, there have been broad consensus that all exercise

option have been met from the advisory group and with that i will turn it back over to kim. thank you, randy, next slide, please. so with that, port staff is recommending the port commission affirm that hsh has met the metrics required as a condition of the exercise of option to extend therefore allowing it to extend operations for an additional 24 months. that concludes our presentation. we thank you and welcome any questions. >> president brandon: thank you, kimberley, emily and randy for your presentation. commissioners, can i please have a motion? >> so moved. >> i second. >> president brandon: ok. now let's open it up for public comment. we will open the phone lines to take public comment on item 11a

so members of the public who are joining us on the phone. we have instructions for anyone on the phone. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on item 11a. please dial star 3 if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star 3 if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: do we have anyone on the phone? >> yes, we have two callers on the line. >> president brandon: please open the first line. >> thank you. opening the first line now.

hello, caller, are you there? >> caller: i wanted to make a comment on the next one, i'm sorry. >> no problem. president brandon, we have one other caller on the line, can i open that line. >> president brandon: please. >> thank you. opening the next line. >> caller: hello. this is meghan o'neil i'm the director of housing services. since opening our doors in late 2019 embarcadero has been for hundreds of guests, staff and neighbors. embarcadero provides a range of essential services for unhoused folks in san francisco including safe warm beds, protecting people from the rain and elements, which we saw this past weekend is very important. hot meals, several times a day, connection to medical services,

mental healthcare, long-term housing, workforce development, and more. providing service to unhoused folks many of whom have not had access to those services in years or decades and it's also a community. from bingo nights to women 'em barment groups and the holiday parties which we extend an invitation to all of you we have a great halloween party coming up and embarcadero is a family and home to many and we greatly appreciate the support by neighbors and friends in the greater embarcadero family when have opened donations, kind words and support and we look forward to forward to more in the years to come. thank you for your support for the work we do everyday. >> president brandon: any other callers? >> at this time, there are no

other callers on the line wishing to make public comment on this item. >> president brandon: thank you. public comment is closed. commissioner gilman. >> i just want to thank staff for the report. as i previously said this was an informational item. i fully support the the extension. it's provider five keys and port staff and hsh staff have met all the requirements of the good neighbor agreement and i hope the success of how this navigation center was run on the embarcadero with community and neighborhood involvement is a template for all communities in san francisco to embrace interim housing. as we saw the storms that took place over the last week, we have thousands of individuals unsheltered here in san francisco and we should be making efforts to provide them with interim housing and that should be spread out equally

across our neighborhoods and our districts here in san francisco so i support the item. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner woo ho. >> thank you for the report. i'm also supportive of the extension and i'm satisfied that all the requirements for the extension have been carried out very well and i'm glad that the neighbors, which we felt positively about when we actually did this to begin with and said, the port would follow through and all our partners would follow through and it would make it safe for the neighborhood and it seems that is what has turned out to be that way i have a couple questions which are only specifically to this navigation center. since this navigation center is a success, i would just like to know that during this period of time from 2019-2021, does the department of homeless have a more accurate count of how many

homeless we have in san francisco? the public generally seems to feel the number has gone up and it's more visible and this neighborhood has it under control i'm not sure the rest of the city does. if you could answer whether that number or you know from an informal count where the number of homeless has increased since 2019 so we have a sense and what can be done about introducing more navigation centers to help other neighborhoods feel safer. >> thank you, commissioner. so our last census or count of people experiencing homelessness was conducted in january of 2019. it was due to be conducted in january of 2021 but due to the pandemic, we postponed for a year so we are gearing up for another count this coming

january. our data is outdated. the 2019 count found about 8,000 people experience homelessness in our community and a large portion of those folks living unsheltered. we anecdotally -- we expect there's been an increase. we've seen an increase in demand for some of our programs and i think some of our street tent counts which is a proxy for people experiencing unsheltered homelessness has gone up a bit during the pandemic. we'll have more data next began but it's to say the economic impact of the pandemic will continue to cause more need. hopefully our increase homelessness prevention will help prevent many families from losing their housing but it's

where our attention right now in terms of providing additional navigation centers and we're very interested in expanding shelter options for people shelter option as we know the challenges related to covid are not going away as quickly we would all like and we are in the process of opening a small cabin community to test sleeping cabins in 33goff street so that is one opportunity to expand shelter and we lost a lot of shelter capacity during the pandemic because we had to reduce density so we're start to go build that back up as well. >> i was going to ask how much sheltered housing you can place

people from and you just said the inventory of that has gone down but is increasing at what point would be be happy to say enough housing available for people when they went through a process of being qualified. are we at that point where there will be enough or do we have a huge deficit at this point in the city? >> we continue to have a deficit for our lowest income households who are the risk of homelessness and homeless in our community. we have tremendous men does investments. unprecedented right. keep saying it's unprecedented investments in new housing for people experiencing homelessness. we're a lot a point of opportunity and i do not believe as these new comments we have a goal of opening 1500 new housing

ain't in the next year-and-a-half and i have concerns we will not meet the demand we see in our community and that's why investing in prevention remains to be critical. >> my last question is understanding how much does it cost to actually operate a navigation now on an annual basis? let's just ut the embarcadero because i know they're different sizes. what is the annual budget for that center now? there was a projection before but now you have the numbers that have experienced it even though the guest cound was lower than you anticipated because it's a social distancing and everything else. >> the costs do vary based on the eyes and the time at which we entered into navigations in our contracts. one hundred dollars a night per bed is the rate to operate the

navigation center. that includes lodging, meals, et cetera and everything else, ancillary services? >> correct. >> is that a number you think over time that you could keep improving on or is that a number that you think is already pretty good? >> i think the costs rise so i have some concerns that adds labor costs and the needs of the community grow it may or may not go down and i don't know. we get economies of sale and see efficiencies when we go pretty large with the shelter. we know from covid it's not the healthiest or the most supportive direction that we can go with shelter. we can get the cost down but the call of the service will suffer. >> so last question in terms of trend lines. we just talked about cost efficient see, et cetera.

where would you else expect improvements since we're all trying to understand homelessness but just to understand the bigger picture. where would you expect the improvements to come next and you talked about the increase in supportive housing, i think many people in this feel feet it's not -- it's still uncontrolled and still a problem. >> it is still a crisis. we have significant investments rit now and think the way to ensure that the crisis of homelessness in our community is decreasing is to prevent at risk folks from becoming homeless and to increase the rate at which for housing people out. while people are experiencing the crisis have an opportunity to come inside and stabilize and it's entering people are flowing and moving out of the crisis as

efficiently as possible so really being able to bring on that supported housing. many, many more units in the pipeline, more resource from the home prop c as well as from the state and federal government are making this possible now but also looking at a significant new investment in homelessness and prevention is critical and the third area of this work is our street response. ensuring that we have diversity in response for people in different types of situations and crisis on the street. making sure that we have -- it's not just our department, it's a multi agency effort but that we have trained clinicians able to respond to people in behavioral health crisis so that police don't have to be our first response to the street and that's a big area of work in our community. i know we all walked down the

street and you see someone and you know something isn't right and you need to call for help. who do we call for that help? really empowering our 9-1-1 dispatch tim hortons deploy a diverse pool of team when people call is another big area of work and how we'll address this crisis. >> i hear it a lot. saying, we do a lot for homelessness in san francisco. so, there's a balance. i mean, because we have programs and people come because they know that there's a better program here than any other place in the bay area or other cities so we actually insent people and we increase our homeless population and we're trying to manage it obviously. we're really working very hard and you are working hard and i applaud your efforts. how do you keep it in balance that we don't keep increasing them or the population because we are trying to do something

about it and we're good at it, yet the tide just keeps coming in. how do you get that balance? how do you make sure it doesn't get out of balance for the rest of the city? >> it's an important issue. this prevents investments i mentioned before can help with this but our neighbors, right, it's the bay area crisis. it's a national crisis and we really need all of our neighboring cities and jurisdictions and everyone working in the same direction and offering the same high-quality programs and we're starting to see more of that through all the of the regional collaboration and discussion. if people get their needs met where they are, it will help stabilize them in their home community. >> you don't have any specifics right now to say that's actually where we are. we're annan equilibrium at this point? >> i'm not sure about what

equilibrium on this looks like but as a figure around the question of inflow from other communities, san francisco has a vow similar late to other large cities. about 70% experiencing homelessness in our community were housed in san francisco before they became homeless. so 30% of folks have come from somewhere else and a lot of big cities it ranging around that number as well so it's consistent. >> thank you for answering my questions and trying to get the bigger picture and what we're trying to do and supportive of the navigation center on port properties. >> thank you, commission. commissioner burton. >> no comment. you are doing good work. >> thank you. you ought to do them all over

the city and they can run them that well now they got rid of the guy that used to run the homeless. he wasn't too good. the new home are doing something. >> president brandon: thank you commissioner burton. vice president adams. >> i just want to a i'm in support. i also wanted to thank mayor breed. i want to thank this commission for supporting staff and i shared that when president brandon was gone and it was a six-hour meeting and i want to thank commissioner woo ho, gilman, president brandon had left her support, director forbes made sure we were safe and i had never been to a meet north my life where we had the police department and the sheriff department in the room. i think all the commissioners and i just want to say to the commissioners that were there, i appreciate your comments, your kindness to the community that

respect that you gave the community was very heated. for and against. you all let everybody talk. i appreciate that. it was one of the proudest days for me being a commissioner. i know we did the right thing. we supported mayor breed. i live in that neighborhood. we heard every excuse why it wouldn't work. we all went out on a little and gave it a chance. for me, it was one of the proudest days of my life serving with you all and we did the right thing and i know we're in the business of making money but we showed our social conference and says commissioners i wanted to say that i'll never forget that day and it's an honor to serve with you because it means so much we're able to help the homeless and even with the naysayers, everybody is saying why it wouldn't work and we found a reason to work and we

put our reputations on the line so i want to thank you all, president brandon, thank you for your leadership and even the port staff. you were very kind to the community. you showed them a lot of love and you have my support. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. kimberley, emily and randy, thank you so much for the report. i think following up on what vice president adams said, we have come a long way from where we started to where we are today. not one person called to explain about this navigation center on the embarcadero so i want to thank emily and hsh and all the other city departments who are running this facility and helping this community with this issue. like i said, i think it should be a model for all navigations in the city because it is so

successfully decreasing the homelessness and cleanliness and everything they're doing out there. i just have a couple questions for emily. i know this particular facility has never been at capacity. so, do you see it ramping up any time soon? >> thank you for the question. the original capacity for this site was 200 and it's currently operating at 91 beds and given the distancing recommendations from d.p.h. around how far apart to keep beds, i don't see us get to go 200. that said i hope we can get above the 91 we're at with reconfiguring and it will be gradual as we can add 20 beds or over time and i would be

surprised if we get the health go ahead to go up to 200. >> president brandon: is that during the pandemic or throughout the next two years? >> that is during the pandemic but that said, i think we're going to continue to be quite conservative within the density within shelters. so even after the quote-unquote emergency order is lifted we need to track covid cases carefully. so i do hope we get to 1 other r 175 but given that this has two more years of operation and where we are, i can't predict it but i would be surprised. >> president brandon: thank you.

i want to know, referring to commissioner woo ho's question regarding the count and you talked about the tent count. are the rv dwellings included in the tent camp or is that separate? >> we do it separate -- we do it at the same time but we do have an rv and the occupied vehicle count so it's rvs and vehicles that are inhabited. and that's included in the tent count that you just said. >> we do that quarterly, ok. >> president brandon: but all unhoused types are included in the tent count that you just discussed? >> sorry, let me be super clear. so every other january we do a census. that is everyone in shelters, everyone living on the streets, just themselves, anyone in a tent or a vehicle. it's a huge operation. we use hundreds of volunteers to do it so then on a quarterly

basis, staff from the healthy streets center and the sfpd and the homeless team do a visual count of tents in occupied vehicles. so we do that quarterly and it's posted on-line on the city's website. the results of that count. i believe the most recent one was done in august of 2021. so we should have another one here very shortly. >> thank you. again, i really want to thank you for the presentation and thank you for all the great work that you are doing in this area and i do hope that it is a model and that when we open up navigation centers, the triage centers, in type of centers that we have the came community respect and input. so thank you again for all the wonderful work that you are doing. we have a motion and a second. carl, can i please have a role call vote? [roll call vote]

>> president brandon: the motion passes unanimously, resolution 20.45 is adopted. next item, please. >> clerk: item 11b request authorization for port staff to enter into lease negotiations with ymca of san francisco, the highest scoring respondent for the request for proposals this is resolution 21-46. >> good afternoon, president brandon, vice president adams, commissioners and director forbes, my name is jimmy hurley and i'm here on behalf of the real estate and development team seeking our authorization to enter into lease negotiations with the ymca of san francisco for building 49 located at cran cove park. just an outline of what i'm

covering. i have a brief presentation. we spoke more about at the september 14th commission meeting. talking about building 49 and the responses that we received and the results of the scoring for building 49 talking a little bit about the ymca's proposal. i will review the feedback that we received from the southern advisory committee when we spoke with them recently earlier this month. and next steps. so this is just an illustration of the rfp process. this is was a competitive solicitation that began a year ago with public outreach and advertising the r.f.p. some came in the spring and in

the summer we went through the scoring and then here we are in the fall that last box on this chart seeking your approval to enter into negotiations. this is some that same information in a different format showing specific dates that we did various key milestones through out the process get starting a year ago and then just most recently as director forbes mentioned in her executive director's report, we had an informational item presented to you on september 14th, and then subsequent to that, we went and did a presentation and facilitated discussions with the port southern advisory committee on october 6th. so again, just to remind you all

about building 49 which is seen in the bottom of the image, it's about 8,000 square foot single-storey building. the port is doing a project to deliver this core shell improvements that should be done by the end of year or early in january. there's a 100-person occupancy limit currently for the structure. the uses we were seeking in the rfp included recreational boarding, water recreation oriented use and aquatic center if you will, food and beverage and just general park and visitor-serving uses. [please stand by]

>> and so, again, there are three partners on the team, the ymca, the dog patch paddle which as it notes here was really born out of the opening of crane cove park and daily driver also a very local woman-owned business with their main business on 3rd street and then an outpost on the ferry building as well. that's the third location i believe. at least third very near the port. and, again, more about their vision includes wholistic wellness, water sports and educational experiences. and commitment to new and underserved communities to the

bay and membership up to combined services for the y and dog patch paddle l. this shows their proposed floor plan and so they've got in different colors here, the three different partners, the ymca is proposing to occupy approximately 4,000 square feet of the billing roughly in the center of the building with dog patch paddle on pieing this sort of water side of the building about 2,500 square feet and then daily driver would have just about 500 square feet in the corner of the building on the west side nearest to illinois street and nearest to those picnic tables on the south side of the building. next slide, please. as i mentioned, we did go to the southern advisory committee

subsequent to the last port commission hearing and we really heard a strong level of support for committee members for the ymca proposal and we requested that staff prepare a letter of support on behalf of the committee. i don't know if that's been done yet, but if you haven't received it yet, commissioners, that should be forthcoming, a letter of support from the southern advisory committee for the ymca proposal. a couple of things that they noted, they wanted to encourage local hiring in the construction and operation facility and certainly port staff along with the city's contract monitoring division staff will work with the team and setting appropriate lb eagles and make that happen. a lot of people stressed on the committee stressed the importance of getting this going in a timely manner. they just noted that the fact that the park is already receiving quite heavy use and

the need for temporary or permanent bathrooms to replace the temporary restrooms that are there currently. so, again, we stand ready to work with the team to expeditiously get through negotiations and hopefully get them into construction if you authorize us to do so. and, finally, they suggested that the ymca consider seismic issues in the building design noting that 100-person occupancy limit that i mentioned earlier and, again, our engineering staff will work with them and we've already been in discussions with ymca folks and we don't see a big problem with that. next slide. so, again, i'm seeking your approval of the attached resolution, resolution 21-46. with your approval, we will commence lease negotiations with the ymca san francisco and if those negotiations are

successful, we will return the port commission for approval of a lease. next slide, please. and that concludes my presentation. i did want to offer an opportunity for a member of the ymca to just say hello and so we have jaime bruiny miles. jamie, go ahead. your microphone is muted. >> sorry about that. thank you everybody. president brandon, vice president adams, commissioners, and director forbes, and, of course, jamie hurley. i'm here to answer any questions in support of the proposal. >> and, with that, commissioners, we look forward to your comments and questions. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you, jaime, for the presentation. commissioners, can i have a motion? >> commissioner: so moved. >> commissioner: second. >> president brandon: now, let's open it up to public

comment. we will open the phone lines to take public comment on item 11b for members of the public joining us on the phone. we'll provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public comment on item 11b. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have anyone on the phone? >> i believe we have one caller on the line. >> president brandon: please, open the line. >> thank you. opening that line now.

hello, caller, are you there? president brandon, i think the caller is not ready to speak. >> president brandon: okay. are there any other callers? >> at this time, there are no other callers on the line wishing to make public comment on this item. >> president brandon: well, if there are no callers on the line, public comment is closed. commissioner woo ho. >> commissioner woo ho: thank you, jaime, for this report. i'm very supportive of the item and i really have no further questions. we've heard a lot about it. i think ymca is a great choice and i think their programming will be great for the area and i'm glad that you have received the input from the community. so i think this is going to be

a wonderful addition to everything that we have on the port. so i'm very supportive. thank you. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: dido to commissioner woo ho's comments. i'm excited to get this activated and i feel the award is appropriating great. so i'm supportive of the item. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner burton. >> commissioner burton: no comment. >> president brandon: vice president adams. >> vice president adams: it's time to move this thing with a resounding unanimous vote. >> president brandon: well, it sounds like everybody wants to see this happen. so thank you both, jamie, for a wonderful presentation and thank you for bringing 'the y' to the southern water front and it's going to be a great

opportunity for a lot of people. >> can i make one quick comment? >> president brandon: sure. >> i just want to thank you all and as a resident of san francisco, your last conversation around the navigation embarcadero just means it's going to be a heart felt thoughtful process. looking forward to a negotiation. >> president brandon: thank you for bringing 'the y' to the waterfront. >> thank you commissioners. >> president brandon: okay. we have a motion and a second. carl, please can we have a roll call vote. [roll call] >> president brandon: the motion passes unanimously. resolution 21-46 is adopted. carl, next item, please. >> clerk: item 12a is an informational presentation on the proposed expansion of retail fish sales from boats at

fisherman's wharf. >> hi commissioners. my name is dominic reno with the port. next slide, please. so today i will be providing an informational presentation on the port's retail fish sales program at fisherman's wharf and request guidance on making the program permanent for dungeons crab at the port. allowing retail fish sales from commercial fishing vessels at fisherman's wharf harbor. next slide, please. we believe the expansion to include live crab provides an opportunity where one currently

does not exist. the current policy does not allow for retail live crab. we look forward and how it's directly impacted by the global pandemic and the pier 45 fire of 2020. next slide, please. industry experts have told us that historically fishermen have sold off their boats. 90% of the sea food brought in goes to the process of pier 45. it's a historical thing to buy fish off the boats. it does bring people down to the wharf. people like to get to know the people that provide them their food. it's important they're able to come down and meet and get to know their local fishermen. next slide, please. with a success. program in

place there may be other opportunities. staff is looking into that for future projects with hopes to continue reconnecting the public with this commercial fishing industry. while every fish and crab sold off the boat is a success, we look forward to seeing improved growth of the program and increased participation both fishers and consumers. next slide, please. the fishers are primarily responsible for marketing and would be allowed to post sign age on their vessels when fish is available. we look forward to seeing the creativity of this entrepreneurial group. as a secondary goal of the program brings the public back to fisherman's wharf. next slide, please. the retail fish program expansion supports two key

goals of the plan. next slide, please. port staff would appreciate your guidance as to any adjustments you feel might be necessary and direction as to whether to extend the program permanently which would give commercial fishers the option for retail fish and crab sales in the future. we look forward to your recommendations and we'll bring this back as an action item soon. thank you. next slide. that concludes my presentation and i'm available to answer any questions. thank you. >> president brandon: dominic, thank you so much for the presentation. now, let's open it up for public comment. we will now open the phone lines to take public comment on item 12a for members of the public who are joining us on the phone. we'll provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone

who would like to make public comment on item 12a. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have anyone on the phone? >> yes, president brandon. we have three callers on the line at the moment. >> president brandon: please open the first line. >> thank you. opening the first line now. >> caller: hello? hello? >> caller: hi. i'm sorry. good afternoon commissioners and all others in attendance. by way of introduction, i am angela sincada of a family and

fish company. we have been in business since the 1940s. for over 80 years we have been buying seafood especially dungeoness crab. first is the health and safety issue. as with your pilot program for other seafood, no other oversight agency was involved to manage what or how products were sold. the port staff said it is not their obligation, but the port is the permitting agency for this program. the health and safety of the public should be your first concern. second, the port is creating an unfair business competition. once a boat becomes a direct seller, this boat now becomes a brick and mortar business just like all of ours. the same rules should apply but will not. we're $225 a year from one boat, you will be jeopardizing the thousands of dollars you

receive monthly from the other brick and mortars. the money does not equate. lastly, this move does not just harm but the other crab [inaudible] stands. we within the seafood industry all work to make sure people have food. while most of your staff is furloughed causing substantial litter and little to no maintenance throughout the port, now the staff is back at work and we find out about this [inaudible] from mayor breed's announcement on october 22nd, 2021, from the fisherman's wharf benefit district on social media 2021. because you do have control and are required by law to address these matters, please take the time to listen about public

health and safety in your financial decisions. if you commissioners or anyone else participating in this meeting have any questions, please feel free to contact me. i thank you for your time today. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> thank you. opening the next line. >> caller: hi. this is nick. i'm a fisherman at pier 45. i think this program allowing us to continue to sell fish and sell crab off the boat is a great idea. san francisco is really one of the only ports on the coast that doesn't allow fishermen to sell crab off of the boats and i know we've lost a few boats because, you know, they go to half moon bay to sell their crab off of the boat. i think that this is going to

benefit everybody. it's going to be really good for the local boats. it's going to be really great for the local community to access local seafood. i think it's going to be great for the tourism industry. and i actually think it's going to be good for the local businesses down there that are currently selling seafood because we're going to be selling crab occasionally when we go fishing. we're not going to be there every day like some of the businesses. and there are customer that is are currently not going to fisherman's wharf of, but they hopefully will be. but they'll look other places they wouldn't normally be looking. so thank you for your time and i appreciate the opportunity. >> president brandon: thank you. next caller, please. >> thank you. opening the next line. >> caller: thank you, this is

the president of the crab owners association and boat owner's association. speaking as a fisherman, i'm not sure i would take advantage of selling crabs off my boat, but i do believe that we should be able to do it. again, we're the only port pretty much on the coast here that can't and it's crazy that boats would leave here and go to another port to sell crabs off their boat that they caught here. i do believe it's going to enhance all the other businesses around. let's be clear, every other bit of seafood you're allowed to sell off your boat here that you catch, it's just crabs we're talking about. we've been able to sell salmon off the boats for quite awhile and it hasn't hurt. if anything, it enhanced or just kept the same all the other businesses around. so i don't believe that it's going to drastically change. i don't see it, you know, maybe some boats won't take advantage of it, maybe some boats will.

i think it will add some authenticity, but with covid going on right now, any new business could help. i don't see how it could hurt. again, just speaking on most of the fishermen i've talked to because 90% of the fleets, though they may not take advantage, they're in favor for the ability of other boats to do it. that's all i've got. thank you for your time. >> president brandon: thank you. are there any other callers? >> yes, president brandon. we have one last caller on the line. >> president brandon: please open the line. >> thank you. >> caller: hi. i'm dan. i've been a tenant at pier 45 for over 20 years and i have no problem with anybody doing business. what i do have a problem with is that we are required to have our scales inspected, wash down facilities and all that. i just want to see people level

the playing field so we all are doing the same thing. our costs and our licenses are very expensive and we just would like to see the boats are going to sell who's going to monitor their scales? do they have wash down facilities? do they have refrigeration or ice to put their product on? these are all things that are required of our businesses. you guys tried this program with the pioneer which i believe was a disaster and they're no longer allowed on the port if i'm not mistaken. i think you should reconsider if we're going to allow this that we have some health issues, and make them meet some of the requirements, and all the other things businesses have to do. that's all. thank you for your time. >> president brandon: thank you. are there any other callers? >> president brandon, at this time, there are no other callers on the line wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: seeing no more callers on the phone, public comment is closed. dominic, did you want to

respond to anyone? >> i have made notes and i will respond. you know, i think specifically we're talking about live crab for sale, so that's, you know -- the taylor street crab stands sell only cooked and i don't feel or believe this would impact wholesale business. >> dominic, if i can adjust some other health and safety concerns that were raised. so oversight is through department of fish and wildlife and that is due to the sales of being from the boat. so if a vessel were to set up a table let's say land side at one of the births, then the

department of public health would come into play for oversight. however, being that that is not apart of the program and it is limited to species directly from the vessel, the health and safety is the oversight of the department of fish and wildlife. additionally, there are other health and safety concerns that we have to be cautious of and that's pedestrian traffic. i think one of the last callers did mention a conflict with one of the more active retail fish sellers and that was pioneer. there was conflict with one of the landslide restaurants and the popularity of his vessel and fish shows. that is something we addressed. as i said, safety concerns and something that we will continue to monitor depending on location and popularity of the program. >> president brandon: thank you.

commissioner burton. >> commissioner burton: okay. how did you address the health and safety concerns you said that were addressed? i'm sorry. you sir, far left. >> yes. thank you for that question, commissioner burton. so, again, this was a pedestrian traffic issue and so there was some queuing modifications that were -- that took place to address queuing at that birth location. unfortunately, due to the leasehold restaurant that wanted to set up outdoor dining, we had to discontinue a retail fish sale at that location for that vessel. but that was the largest health and safety concern that we were made aware of at the time.

>> think you're on mute, commissioner burton. >> commissioner burton: what? >> president brandon: you were on mute. did you have any other questions? >> commissioner burton: yeah. i didn't hear. how did you address the concern you mentioned? >> yeah. so unfortunately, we had to discontinue retail fish sales at that location for that vessel due to incompatibility of outdoor dining and retail fish sales at that location. so we did look for other locations within the wharf to accommodate that vessel. it was a larger vessel, but ultimately, that fisherman ended up taking his vessel elsewhere. >> commissioner burton: okay. what was mentioned by i think one of the first people that

spoke talked about this was done under avail of secrecy. do you have any idea what she might be talking about? >> i do not. >> commissioner burton: i'm sorry, sir. i can't read the names. what's his name? >> dominic. >> commissioner burton: i'm sorry. yes, sir. >> i don't know. >> commissioner burton: do you note everybody what you're doing every step of the way? >> i was going to say, commissioner burton, this program was piloted in 2017. i believe in 2019, we provided an update to the port commission and the program has actually remained active for those interested in selling. for the purpose of this, we did reach out to some at the harbor. but the information was to do exactly that. put it out there and list

feedback from the public to expand to crab. >> commissioner burton: well, yeah. i mean, that's an expansion. why wasn't this done originally? is it only because of the pandemic that you made this policy change or would like to? >> so historically, crab was excluded from the program. i think there were some concerns from the certain segments of the fishing community. i think as noted as we rolled out the program, i think one of the callers did mention that, you know, salmon has been sold off the boats successfully with minimal disruption to the processes or other crab stands. i think we see this as you have the processors who receive or, you know, sell wholesale. you have the crab stands and then you have this segment of

fishermen selling live crab which occurs up and down the west coast and within the region of pillar point if i'm not mistaken. >> commissioner burton: okay. the thing that was mentioned was this is here partially or wholly as a result of the pandemic. in other words, that had nothing to do with the extension with or without a pandemic. in other words, the early testimony was kind of like because of the pandemic, we have to extend this because of the economic hardship i guess on the fisher people as opposed to that. it wasn't a pandemic, it was just in your mind a logical extension or are you using the pandemic as a reason or what? >> i think staff noted as an opportunity for economic

recovery, we've viewed this as an opportunity to increase foot traffic up and down the wharf and in talking with some of our other harbors in town, for example, pillar point, i think they see up to a thousand folks on the weekend approximately for off-the-boat fish sales and that spikes during crab season. for us, this was an opportunity to, again, expand the species for crab with the goal that we increase, you know, foot traffic down at the wharf, engagement from the local communities and engaging the fishermen and fisher women in the industry and hopefully those individuals frequent other businesses while they're down going through that experience down at the wharf. >> commissioner burton: you can ride bikes. one last thing. so there were -- this

extension, shall we say, or broadening will not have that much of an adverse impact on present businesses there like the first speaker or second speaker talked about. >> correct. at this time, we don't anticipate significant disruptions. again, this is live crab versus cooked crab at crab stands and not sold in bulk as the processors typically receive. but that's something we can monitor and the last thing we want to do is have some unintended consequences or adverse impacts as a result of the program. if that's the case, we will definitely re-evaluate. >> commissioner burton: and we would be asked to put the cork back in the bottle.

thank you very much, madam president. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: thank you for the report. i have just a couple of questions. well, i have a couple of questions about the expansion and just a couple of questions in general about live fish sale on the work. i do want to say first i am a proponent and booster for getting locals back to the wharf of. i don't know if folks saw two and a half weeks ago the chronicle ran a story about fisherman's wharf and it was about the good, the bad, and the ugly about locals coming there and there was fair criticism of the wharf just being for tourists and as someone who lives on the northeast waterfront, i really want to see locals drive to the wharf as they do in so many other communities from seattle to sydney barcelona, spain, where the waterfront is used by

locals so much more than tourists. can you tell me how many boats are participating now in selling live fish and how do they let the public know? because as someone who went this morning, maybe i went too early at 8:00 a.m. looking for live fish, i would not find it anywhere on the waterfront. so i'd like you to answer that question first for me and then i just have a couple of others. >> dominic. >> yeah. so currently, there were two boats that were participating. we had a total of three in its previous version. the creativity i spoke to around social media is typically how they're getting the word out. i think there's a couple apps that are fish finder type apps and you can search by location of your phone, zip code, and find the nearest. so there's going to be some creativity that we think we'll see in that advertising

marketing piece, but, again, the fishers are primarily responsible for that. >> commissioner gilman: okay. so there's two boats now that are currently doing it. >> correct. in the previous program. >> commissioner gilman: okay. and they're all around pier 45? like that area? >> so the areas that they're allowed to be involved in the program is the inner and outer lagoon of fisherman's wharf and that's designated because of the public access opportunities. so at the outer laguna in a is pier 47 and then the inners is kind of front row by the chapel. >> commissioner gilman: okay. and how many -- just to give a point of scale because there was comments of folks being concerned about brick and mortar shops that are selling live fish about competition. first of all, how many brick and mortar shops are selling

live fish that we lease to? >> i don't know if we have a policy allowing retail fish to be sold. >> commissioner gilman: so we don't have retail fish being sold? >> to clarify, from the brick and mortars, some of our retail fish sales from our understanding is not allowed per the leasehold language for some of those processors. >> commissioner gilman: okay. so the fish processors condition can't because there's quite a number of fish processers that are wholesale, not retail. only because i saw them all this morning and they were extremely active. so that seemed like a profitable and good thing for us to do. and we have the folks selling cooked fish all along scoma's and fisherman's gratto are.

but we currently don't have brick and mortars, again, sorry, i've just been travelling and two ports, there were all sorts of fishmongers selling fish in stalls right by the boats. we don't typically have that here? >> correct. >> commissioner gilman: okay. so then there wouldn't be a brick and mortar concern then? because a caller did say that they were concerned about competition for brick and mortar businesses, so i'm just a little confused. i'm sorry. okay. so i guess the only other question i have is on the health and safety, it seems like the health and safety for selling fish off the boat is not in our jurisdiction. i heard you say that when you answered commissioner burton's questions. i want to be really clear that that's accurate. it's not that we don't want to regulate, it's just not our jurisdiction to regulate it because it's not happening on

port property. technically the boat is in the water. >> that is correct. and if there are issue that is we're made aware of, we do work closely with local agencies and, again, if there are issue that is we observe that we're made aware of, we will definitely address them either by way of our port resources or partnerships with the local agencies. >> commissioner gilman: okay. i guess the only other suggestion since this is an informational item today and i know it's coming back to us is maybe going back to find what commissioner burton referenced. it might be good to have a sunset or review for us to make it more permanent. i can't imagine what the unintended consequences will be. i will say if we vote on this as a commission and allow this, i do think we need to do more advertising as a port. a caller referenced the fisherman's wharf community benefit district doing the social media campaign if we are to vote and approve this at our next meeting, i would hope the

port would do something too and maybe something around signage. that whole area this morning, it's sort of hard to figure out what's going on if you're just a lay public person or people in the neighborhood who we want to have drive there. so that's just a suggestion. and a sunset or review by us so we can make sure there aren't negative or unintended consequences. but, generally, it seems like anything we can do to get san franciscans to that area for positivty activity is a good thing. that concludes my questions and comments. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner woo ho. >> commissioner woo ho: yeah. thank you, dominic and andre. and so just following up a little bit on the conversation so far. so i did hear that obviously other ports are doing this already and while it's not in our jurisdiction, do we know what health and safety measures are usually taken so even though we cannot dictate or whatever, but just for the

general welfare of the public to make sure and obviously we've been selling fish, the fishermen have been selling fish and so far i don't think you recorded any incidents of health and safety from that so far. so if that's the case, we should know about it because -- and so that's one question whether, you know, we can make sure we're aware of what other -- what they generally do just to protect the health and safety. it's not that we can enforce it, but we want to make sure that, you know, what is generally considered common sense principles are followed for the general welfare of the public, if we can pass that on and say hopefully you're observing these and whatever it is that you do. i think live crab is definitely i can tell you, i am a live crab eater. i buy them in the chinese market because they taste so much better. i mean, fresh. so i definitely would appreciate that. so i think that if we could at least make sure that we know what the, you know, the standard should be even if we

can't regulate it and make sure we pass it on to make sure they do that. they should know it themselves, but just to make sure. and secondly, you said there are only two boats selling fish right now. when we expand this to crab, is it the same boats or are we introducing more boats to be selling crab because i, you know, it's my ignorance in terms, but i thought the crabbers were different from the fishermen, but maybe they're one in the same. can you answer the question whether we are introducing more boats which would make it more interesting but i just would like to understand that. >> that's a great question. we think we'll see an increased number of boats participating. to john barnett's comments, there will be some that won't and, you know, i think i've heard comments that for when the fishing is good, they want to go get the haul, bring it back to pier 45, off load it to the processors and get back out

to sea and continue the fishing and i suspect that will be the same with crab as well. we anticipate seeing an increased number of participants. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. so let me ask the question slightly differently. so since we opened the fishing boats since 2017, i guess they do have to register with us. so do we have -- how many boats do we have registered to sell, but we're finding only two boats sell regularly or is it just two boats usually there out of a pool of ten boats? how does that work? >> so the two boats that participate are permitted to do so and there's only two permits out right now. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. so we don't have people who say i want to have the permit and then i'll decide whether i decide to sell on that particular day. so there's no kind of rotational where i think i might do this today and the next day i might sell to the whole sellers.

this is their permanent way of selling fish now? they don't sell to the wholesalers at all? >> i couldn't answer that. i do think that they -- that that is a business decision that the fishers would need to make themselves. >> correct. the option is still there for them to sell to the wholesalers. it really depends on their business model. you know, again, we had the one vessel that was more successful given inside his vessel and how he fished. so if he was a little more successful in the program direct sales from the program, but that did not prevent him from selling to the processors as well. so it really depends on the interest of the fishermen and their business model, but both options are available. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. and then, i don't know i think

i asked this question a long time ago, but we don't know what we observe the difference in term officer not that they do report it, but i don't know if we observed the difference of how they sell the price to the public as a retail which normally says is higher and what we sell to a wholesaler? do we know the differential in the pricing? >> we could take that down and bring it back to you when we return. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. but, at this point, we're responding to an interest from the crabbers to do this, is that correct? it's also their interest in being able to do this as well? i'm just making sure we have interest on their part. the public will be interested in this because i think it's something that gives them a choice and something else to do when you come down to fisherman's wharf. >> correct. there's interest. of course, this is the port's looking to expanded program, but of course there was some outreach to some of the

crabbers and there's interest from their end as well. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. well, hopefully they're working with us closely because i think we've done a fair amount to help the crabbers with the fire and everything else. so hopefully we have a strong relationship and partnership with them to make this successful on both sides. okay. so i think the question just for my -- are we setting this up even when you come back as an action item not that we're voting on it today to do this again? i think we did this with the fish sales. we put it out there for a period of time and then we made it more permanent. is this what you're planning to come back to us and say let's try this for a season or two seasons or whatever and then we'll make a decision on whether we make it more permanent. is that the structure of what you're proposing? >> correct. two parts. so the department permit and the species of crab based on

the initial feedback that the best approach is probably a pilot program, one season and learn from the successes or maybe some of the challenges, re-evaluate those and return either way on extending crab. >> commissioner woo ho: okay. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. vice president adams. >> vice president adams: deputy director coleman and mr. moreno, good job. i heard the first caller what they had to say. i was going to ask director forbes something. i think you explained it. i'm onboard about helping the fishermen and i don't think people should have to go to other ports when we have such a great port and i'm open to a pilot program. and this commission's always been supportive of the fishermen. it's a part of our history in this port of san francisco. and we've been there through

the good times and through the struggles and i think we have to continue to support them. i mean, they're like the last of the moheegans and we have to continue to support them. you bring it back and there might be more questions. i want to know a little bit more about what was said, but i also think that we're on the right track and thank you both. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. dominic and andre, thank you again for the presentation. thank you for answering all the questions. so we have a pilot program and right now, we are increasing or adding crab to our pilot program? that's the request, and then you'll come back? because it seems like this has been a pilot program for a while. so i'm just wondering when we get to an actual program or -- >> yeah.

so the two parts. again, make the retail fish sales program permanent and then expand the species to include crab as a pilot for one year so that we can re-evaluate, again, any of the challenges that we faced given some of the comments or feedback that we've heard today. so that's a yes. >> president brandon: okay. so we're going to make the program that we have now permanent and then pilot adding crab to the permanent program. >> correct. >> president brandon: as a pilot. >> correct. >> president brandon: got it. commissioner burton. you're on mute. >> commissioner burton: why wasn't crab put in it at the very beginning?

anybody? >> i think there was consideration for the tailored crab stands, commissioner burton, in its previous version. i think there's, you know, these days there's only one crab stand functioning and so we thought there might be an opportunity to provide crab to, you know, in live form. >> president brandon: you're on mute. >> commissioner burton: we didn't want to do just do all in one just to and there wasn't a need for the crab -- that there wasn't before the pandemic? i got -- i understand it i think. thank you very much both of you. >> president brandon: thank you again for your presentation. we look forward to you coming back. >> thank you. >> president brandon: carl,

next item, please. >> clerk: that would be item 13a, an informational presentation on equity opportunities and construction project delivery methods. >> good afternoon, president brandon, vice president adams, commissioners, and director forbes. i'm rod e. washda. i'm the chief harbor engineer for the port and i'm here with stephanie tang or contract and procurement manager to discuss equity opportunities and construction project delivery methods. i gave a presentation in 2019 to the port commission about alternative project delivery methods. and, today, stephanie and i are here to discuss how we consider and include equity when selecting construction project delivery methods. next slide, please.

so the port is schmidted to eliminating racial disparity and all of its processes and resource allocations. that's straight from our race action equity plan. inside the racial equity action plan, there are four different construction related goals. this includes enhancing equity based language and all prebids to state the port values of creating racially diverse contracting teams. repackaging of contracts into smaller projects when feasible and evaluate the feasibility of creating a job order contracting goal similar to the public works program to increase capacity of small minority businesses so why

consider it? we want to maximize economic opportunity for our local communities. our historic strategy has been to use the l.b.e. program, that there are other opportunities and equity the port can explore using contracting opportunities in our typical low bid process. these equity opportunities that are available to the port include work force development, education and mentoring programs as well. while we strive for cost effective and timely construction projects, we're also looking to maximize our impact on local communities through our construction contracting chlgt over the past three years, the port has completed 38 separate construction projects with a value of approximately

$67 million ranging in construction value from $16,000 to $17.8 million. and so we don't expect the contracting community to develop community benefit programs immediately and we need to remind them about the port's equity goals and values in order for them to prepare for the use of the port's use of noncost scoring criteria and how they affect bid evaluations in these alternative delivery methods. this is one of the reasons the up coming port maintenance bridging contract rfp was structured as a two-year contract this time around. it's typically a five-year and we included optional noncost criteria in the rfp to allow

the contract community time to prepare the five-year contract where noncost criteria is going to be included and scored in the bids. next slide, please. here, we have the most common city administrative code. the typical port project has been a low-bid project, although the cruise ship terminal was contracted using design build and construction manager, general contractor methods. the port has started to use the public worked jock program with greater frequency over the past three years. next slide, please.

and here we have the different delivery methods that we're talking about and the dlor range where we look to use these different methods. so the overall amount of a jock contract can be as high as $5 million, but the city administrative code limits specific task orders to $706,000 to the threshold amount. the low bid projects don't have an administrative or maximum dollar value. cmtc and design build methods because of the amount of

resources, staff resources and contractor resources, we typically don't use those unless a contract is quite large, $15 million and greater. next slide, please. so when we're selecting a delivery method for a project, equity is one of our considerations, but other considerations that we have include project cost, the complexity, safety, timing, staff resources and available contracting resources, best value, design build, cmtc designed a mechanism for evaluating noncost criteria and

l.b.e. participation and, with that, i will turn it over to stephanie. >> thanks, rod. next slide. so in a typical low bid process, the city's definition of being a responsive and responsible bidder, than the lowest cost wins. so once you start using scoring criteria, the department develops a set of criteria and then a panel will score them. this is usually around things like past performance, the ability to meet time lines, labor compliance, safety records, but it's also the opportunity to introduce equity as a scoring criteria. so this could be the bidder's practices. it could be workforce programs, it could be mentorships.

it could be volunteer programs. anything that the -- these are all considered as the panels deciding who is the most qualified respondent. and this criteria gets to one of the goals of generating community benefits. next slide, please. so this slide looks at which delivery methods are used based on price alone and which use noncost criteria. so jock and design bid builds low bid, the top two are based solely on cost and the bottom three, best value, design build, and cmgc are ones where you can introduce non-cost criteria. now, of course, cost is still considered in this, we're not going to throw away cost. for best value, you create a formula where the -- it's the cost divided by the qualification score and a design built cost has to be at least 40%. rod and i have talked about the

perspective of us, the department, but what are our bidders going to think about us using this criteria and asking these equity questions. and i do want to say, the non-cost criteria are excellent, but it's a lot of work and also possibly an interview and like all things administrative, bigger firms have more capacity to do more administrative work. next slide, please. so this slide gets to the l.b.e. which is the typical strategy the port has used to advance equity. we think the l.b.e. is a great strategy, it can't be the only strategy but this is how it

applies to the contracts. and while the use of noncost criteria and a selection process is optional, participation in this program is not. this is a requirement. l.b.e. are required at the time of bid. design build, so it's the third one on the slide has one l.b.e. requirement for the design phase and then a different l.b.e. requirement for the construction phase. then for the cmgc process, l.b.e. goals are set at the start of the project for overall but then trade bid packages have a separate requirement. so for example, an individual trade bid package might have a much higher l.b.e. goal depending on availability. next slide, please. on this slide, you can see the different alternative delivery

methods, and also an assessment of the relative strength of equity in the different areas. and this shows you how we're kind of thinking about how we're going to apply equity. now, clearly, low bid jocks are best for maximizing the opportunity for l.b.e. primes. however, they're not as good as best value for generating community benefits. then, we have the design build and cmgcs that offer a wonderful opportunity to do equity and community work, but it is extremely rare because the projects are so large. so l.b.e. opportunities are really at the lower tier level. so if there's one take-away from this presentation it's this. when we're applying the equity lens to contracting, there isn't a one-size-fits-all for each delivery method we use. each measure has advantages and disadvantages. and in the staff report pages 8-11 there's pretty decent

charts on how you can think about the equity and non-cost equity so you can understand how staff is approaching and selecting the methoding. before i close, i wanted to confirm and reaffirm what ron already mentioned about maintenance and about how we're not just talking about how we can do this, but we're actually doing this right now and that the dredging contract has always been a low bid opportunity and there have been very few l.b.e. opportunities in that work and nobody was satisfied with that result. we were doing the same thing, but we weren't advancing equity in that contract. so in the staff report, i just want to draw your attention to item 10a on page two where it says port staff intends to use solicitation to prepare the dredging community for possible implementation of non-cost selection criteria. so what we're doing is preparing the market. we're going to demand more and ask more of the folks that we work with because our equity

value should not just be expressed by us, the port, but also our contracting partners. and the strategies for equity contracts is happening now. so that concludes our presentation. i wanted to thank other folks who provided insight into making sure that we were clear and correct in our presentation thanks to tiffany, caden, ellen and elizabeth alexander for their comments. and ron, elizabeth is on the line as well for your questions. thank you. >> president brandon: thank you, ron and stephanie for the presentation. now let's open it up to public comment. we will open the phone lines to take public comment on item 13a for members of the public who are joining us on the phone. we'll provide instructions now for anyone on the phone who would like to provide public comment. >> thank you, president brandon. at this time, we will open the queue for anyone on the phone who would like to make public

comment for items in 13a. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. the system will let you know when your line is open. others will wait on mute until their line is open. comments will be limited to three minutes per person. the queue is now open. please dial star three if you wish to make public comment. >> president brandon: thank you. do we have anyone on the line? >> president brandon, at this time, there are no members of the public on the phone wishing to make public comment. >> president brandon: seeing no callers on the phone, public comment is closed. commissioner woo ho. >> commissioner woo ho: thank you, rod and stephanie, for this presentation. i have to say that it is very innovative and creative. i think we've learned a lot. when i read the staff report, i wasn't sure that i fully understood everything that you said because it's complicative view and we don't live in the contracting world every day nor do we live in the world of public finance and how civic entities address it.

i think you've helped us understand. it was extremely educational. so i support trying to move this equity initiative forward and i guess that all the qualitative aspect that is what we expect from our contracts as far as as you know the quality, the cost is still there, but this is advancing it a step forward. and i'm just wondering, as we go forward on this, is the idea and if other city departments are approaching this as well or if we're in tandem with other projects, are we going to give this a pilot program to figure out how to execute against this? and i'm sure you'll learn some lessons along the way in terms of what's easy to implement because obviously, i know it's not, you know, there's no -- as we said, there's no numbers or anything like that associated with it. but still, are you going to put this into sort of like a pilot period to sort of make sure that you understand how to execute and implement it and

come back to us and report whether it's working and what other refinements you might want to make? >> well, i will say that i believe it was about two years ago, about when i did the first presentation of alternative delivery methods that we were talking about building 49 or crane cove park in general and trying to do that as a cmgc project. the bids there failed and we ended up having to split the project up and redefine some of the work in building 49, but we have tried this. we have not done a best value project. i believe. and i think that when we come to the port commission to ask for authorization to advertise projects, i think we will have thought this through and probably if you are interested, you can talk about the reason

for selecting the contract delivery method at that point. and whether or not it's successful is whether or not i come back and ask you for additional funds. >> okay. all right. i think it's worth trying and i think it's a step forward and i know you will spend a lot of time thinking about it. so i applaud you for the efforts you've made so far. so thank you. >> president brandon: thank you. commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: thank you rod and stephanie for this report. i applaud you for your innovation. we know we have an l.b.e. and other local hiring requirements, but this is really taking it a step further. i have one question, i might be misunderstanding the staff report. so i apologize if this question seems sillily. one of the questions i had and this really goes to -- the way i understood your staff report

is that there are barriers when we get to the design or the cm/gc section that it's harder because of the competitive bid process and sort of the barriers for that. is there a way and i'm going to use this as an example. this is totally illustrative. piers 30, 32, and the seawall, that was a massive development project that we put out for bid. we are in negotiations with the top bidder, but would there be a way in those bids to, well some bids it come in. others didn't. so i want to know if there's a way for us to mandate that for. that it has to be part of the package and also is there a way the professional service side? it really struck me? i'm going to use this again with an architect and they were

major firms because of the scope and size of the project and it seemed like the l.b.e. or smaller firm work would be modelling in some of the less price point options. is there a way for us to mandate for equity and sort of work sharing on those major projects? let's say as an example, if the architectural firm is going to be paid a $1,000, let's say 50% of that is going to be going to the smaller l.b.e.s? i'm just curious about that. >> i can provide information about the development projects because they're different from what rod and stephanie are talking about here this evening, commissioner. so for the private public partnerships, where we go out looking for a development partner and enter an exclusive right to negotiate, we have included in our proposals, requests for community benefits or for equity.

we've done so more in recent years for sure. for some time, all of our development partners including our maritime operators, like the cruise ship terminal for example, metro, have provided an l.b.e. work force program. but now we're really moving the dial over the years. we've really advanced the equity approach where we start with the development team and ends with the leasing program, so really thinking about equity across the program. so there are additional opportunities. i think that mandates might not be the right approach given that the various work scopes can change and l.b.e. opportunities are different. i do think having development partners describe their equity

goals, their diversity, you know, to really express what they're intending in the program is critical because the l.b.e. program itself is race neutral. so i think i'm saying a lot of words, but also saying that it's different. we have advanced the way in which we still list it for equity up front and we are also requiring diversity d.e.i. programs from our development partners as an early gating point before we enter into term sheet negotiations. so we've advanced quite a bit the way in which we're incorporating equity into these public private partnerships. >> commissioner gilman: and i do apologize if i confuse the two matters. and i pulled it up on my screen. so i'm simultaneously looking at the staff report as the soft copy. i guess what i was getting at the way i read when stephanie

was walking us through was she was saying the design, maybe it was the construction management general contracting and the job order would have higher community benefits, but may not attract as many -- was i understanding your chart right? as many l.b.e. firms or folks to apply for that bid. you were saying there was a trade-off. so i apologize if my examples were development projects i can't think of a construction project right now. maybe heron head park is an example. i guess that's where i was having a little confusion about how we could have higher community benefits, but less bypoc equity. that's what i was trying to drive to is how to incentivize this firm to go after those contracts. >> commissioner gilman, you've identified the inherent contradiction that the staff report gets at which is that the opportunities for l.b.e.s

to prime are in exact opposition to the one that is advance community benefits on a larger scale and that's why we want to pose the kind of contradiction of when we're looking for construction delivery method figuring out where the balance should be on that particular opportunity. if you recall the slide that had the particular dollar amount, the basic kind of way to think about it is the bigger the contract, the less likely an l.b.e. is to prime it. so you're thinking about how do we maximize l.b.e. participation. so basically small contracts, you try to drive drdz the l.b.e. program. bigger contracts, you've identified the other community benefits that you can do for construction and it's the in between contracts like

maintenance dredge that you men make that choice of where to go and that's where the port is making a different choice from the low bid which is the habit to think about approaching it a different way and, you know, the approach that shannon and ken are using is to prepare the market. if we prepare the market and we tell them this is what's coming, then we should expect, you know, we can expect as commissioner woo ho asked, we expect less failure if everybody knows what to expect. so we are preparing the market. they've seen it in the bid documents. they're going to see it. they get a test drive and they are what we're well-positioned for two years from now when we go back out for everybody to understand exactly what's happening because all the information is there and you've had literally years to prepare at this point. >> commissioner gilman: okay. my only other question is do we ever for this set of contracts because other departments use

this, do we ever do just a call for qualifications and then keep a running list of vendors who meet that and so then we're not -- you know, let's say we're doing i don't know, um, sewage plumbing work to prepare something on port property, do we ever do a qualified vendor list so we don't have to put every single project out for bid? other departments do that in the city. i was just curious if that's a practice for us. >> so we -- for -- and i would consider that to be a maintenance project or a repair project. smaller projects like that, we've started to use the public works jock program. they have the pool of contractors and if they -- if a prime jock contractor can't do that type of work, they are allowed to sub it out and then they, you know, there's an

administrative fee that they pull out of it, but that is not an emergency repair type of deal, but it is something that pulls a lot of or takes a lot of pressure off of the port engineering department because a lot of the construction or the construction management and the administration of the actual project itself resides at the port and staff administrator. >> commissioner gilman: yeah. i apologize again. my analogies are failing tonight. did we ever have that for a project site? have we ever considered that as a way to streamline the contracting process? >> you can't do it for that because of the dollar value because the dollar value is too large and pools work when you have multiple opportunities of the same size going out again. if we do the same work many times, you can have a pool because people know exactly what to expect, but each design build and each cmgc is a

precious unicorn that gets built where it has all these specific configurations for that particular opportunity, so we need to select the specific right person and the bidding requirements for cmgc or design build are not for the faint of heart, they are significant. >> commissioner gilman: okay. you've answered my question. if there was a streamlining way we could have a pool of l.b.e.s and say hey, this project has come up from x, would you like to do it? i was just looking at oewd has that. homeless supportive housing has that. d.p.h. has that, other folk who is are large contractors for the city will do request for qualifications and work off that list when opportunities come up, so i was trying to see if that was a pathway we could use. so, thank you. i understand now and i'm going to conclude my questions and i apologize that all of my examples failed spectacularly. but i understand now what i think i need to understand.

>> president brandon: what commissioner gilman is talking about is that like with our real estate contracts, with our services where we have a pool where we go out and we have a pool of four or five firms that we could use if the need arises, but it's more professional services, not contracting. and so i think that's more of what commissioner gilman's asking. could we do that in the contracting world? go ahead, rod. >> so i think we -- the next time we go out for oncall engineering services, you know, i think we -- the last time we did this, there's always a one of the first things we talk about at meetings is the diversity and what the port is looking for. i think we want a diverse --

and there's a paragraph that i remember reading, we want the team make-up to reflect the terms of the city in terms of diversity. and so i think we are doing that already. and i'm glad that we're -- you've asked that question because i think this is if there are any consultants watching the port commission meeting now that this is kind of telegraphing to them as well what the port's values are and maybe where our evaluation points go when we are evaluating professional service contracts or bids. and i'd just like to say real quick that, you know, the jock program i've been talking about with public works, ten of the 13 jock contracts right now are primed by l.b.e. contractors. so there is a significant component there of l.b.e.

participation already. >> commissioner woo ho: i just wanted to make one comment and i know that a lot of processes and all processes in san francisco are more convoluted than other cities. in this particular area, i think, you know, i guess i'm a little contrarian to commissioner gilman's comments. i guess is more transparency with what you've described to go about this process. i think the city has been criticized recently for some not so great practices, so i actually support what you're trying to do and i think that having something that's more open and transparent even though it may take more steps is probably a good thing and i think we have kept ourselves i think pretty clean as far as the commission is concerned and we hope that staff agrees with us and i think that's a good thing and so i don't want to say anything about other departments, but i feel good about the san francisco port for that reason and so i

appreciate, you know, while we're trying to build more values into how we do business to encourage the community and help support the community, i think if it takes a little more effort, that's fine. i would be a little bit concerned if we just had a qualified list and after awhile, we sort of got used to the click and we took people off that list. that's another type of i guess i could say non-equity in a different way in the long run. it may not be. so i would just be cautious about that. that's the only comment i want to make. i know we're not going there, but i would just say i like open and transparent processes when it comes to contracting. i think it's a good thing and i think we've done a great job on the l.b.e. side and i think you're adding another level and i think that's good and, yes, there is the contradiction where you can never get a prime l.b.e. to get on for the larger projects. we still at the end cannot ignore people have to have the

qualifications to be able to do the project and it takes time. >> president brandon: always. everyone has to be qualified to do the job. and i appreciate all that rod and stephanie are doing to open the horizon to all those who are qualified to be able to participate in our contracting and thank you for being so innovative. commissioner burton. do you have any comments? >> commissioner burton: no. i think it's a very fine report and what i really liked was the discussion of the numbers. i think that gives good direction and is consistent with our goal. >> president brandon: thank you. vice president adams. is he still with us? >> he is still on. >> president brandon: okay. i guess i will come back to

him. again, want to thank rod and stephanie for the report. i want to thank you for the innovation and all that you've put into this. you know, as you said, one size doesn't fit all and so for each contractor, everything that we do, we're going to have to see what is the best way to go with it. but whatever we can do to encourage our l.b.e. firms to participate in our opportunities is absolutely wonderful and i just lost my train of thought. i'm so sorry. but it was something along the line of whatever we can do to help our l.b.e. firms get engaged at whatever level and -- i know what it was. rod, you mentioned something about how the contracting community is listening to us and how our conversation is

helping them prepare. so any time you need us to help you help them prepare for doing something differently and more inclusive, just let us know. we're happy to help. >> well, i remember you being at the last on-call or one of our in-person meetings and you came and you addressed folks, the contracting community before we actually got into the meat and potatoes of the bid i believe and so thank you very much. thanks for the leadership that the commission is providing to us. this is -- yeah. >> president brandon: well, thank you for being so innovative and so open to everyone. everyone's participation. thank you so much again for the presentation. >> thank you. >> president brandon: carl, next item, please. >> clerk: item 14, new business. >> i didn't record any new

business in the conversation. i may have missed something if i have. is there any other new business? >> president brandon: commissioners, any new business? seeing none. may i have a motion to adjourn? >> commissioner: i'll make a motion to adjourn. >> commissioner: second. >> president brandon: carl, can we please have a roll call vote. [roll call] >> president brandon: thank you everybody for a wonderful meeting. the meeting is adjourned at 5:53 p.m. have a wonderful rest of the week everyone. >> bye everyone.

>> flyshaker pool was a public pool located on sloat boulevard near great highway. it operated from 1925 to 1971 and was one of the largest pools in the world. after decades of use, less people visited. the pool deteriorated and was demolished in 2000. built by herbert flyshaker, pumps from the pacific ocean that were filtered and heated filled the pool. aside from the recreational activities, many schools held swim meets there.

the delia flyshaker memorial building was on the west side of the pool. it had locker rooms with a sun room and mini hospital. in 1995, a storm damaged one of the pipes that flowed to the ocean. maintenance was not met, and the pool had to close. in 1999, the pool was filled with sand and gravel. in 2000, the space became a spot for the san francisco zoo. these are some memories that many families remember swimming at flyshaker pool. [♪♪♪]

>> i just don't know that you can find a neighborhood in the city where you can hear music stands and take a ride on the low rider down the street. it is an experience that you can't have anywhere else in san francisco. [♪♪♪] [♪♪♪] >> district nine is a in the southeast portion of the city. we have four neighborhoods that i represent. st. mary's park has a completely unique architecture. very distinct feel, and it is a very close to holly park which is another beautiful park in san francisco. the bernal heights district is unique in that we have the hell which has one of the best views in all of san francisco.

there is a swinging hanging from a tree at the top. it is as if you are swinging over the entire city. there are two unique aspects. it is considered the fourth chinatown in san francisco. sixty% of the residents are of chinese ancestry. the second unique, and fun aspect about this area is it is the garden district. there is a lot of urban agriculture and it was where the city grew the majority of the flowers. not only for san francisco but for the region. and of course, it is the location in mclaren park which is the city's second biggest park after golden gate. many people don't know the neighborhood in the first place if they haven't been there. we call it the best neighborhood nobody has ever heard our. every neighborhood in district nine has a very special aspect. where we are right now is the mission district. the mission district is a very special part of our city. you smell the tacos at the

[speaking spanish] and they have the best latin pastries. they have these shortbread cookies with caramel in the middle. and then you walk further down and you have sunrise café. it is a place that you come for the incredible food, but also to learn about what is happening in the neighborhood and how you can help and support your community. >> twenty-fourth street is the birthplace of the movement. we have over 620 murals. it is the largest outdoor public gallery in the country and possibly the world. >> you can find so much political engagement park next to so much incredible art. it's another reason why we think this is a cultural district that we must preserve. [♪♪♪] >> it was formed in 2014. we had been an organization that had been around for over 20 years. we worked a lot in the

neighborhood around life issues. most recently, in 2012, there were issues around gentrification in the neighborhood. so the idea of forming the cultural district was to help preserve the history and the culture that is in this neighborhood for the future of families and generations. >> in the past decade, 8,000 latino residents in the mission district have been displaced from their community. we all know that the rising cost of living in san francisco has led to many people being displaced. lower and middle income all over the city. because it there is richness in this neighborhood that i also mentioned the fact it is flat and so accessible by trip public transportation, has, has made it very popular. >> it's a struggle for us right now, you know, when you get a lot of development coming to an area, a lot of new people coming to the area with different sets of values and different culture. there is a lot of struggle

between the existing community and the newness coming in. there are some things that we do to try to slow it down so it doesn't completely erase the communities. we try to have developments that is more in tune with the community and more equitable development in the area. >> you need to meet with and gain the support and find out the needs of the neighborhoods. the people on the businesses that came before you. you need to dialogue and show respect. and then figure out how to bring in the new, without displacing the old. [♪♪♪] >> i hope we can reset a lot of the mission that we have lost in the last 20 years. so we will be bringing in a lot of folks into the neighborhoods pick when we do that, there is a demand or, you know, certain types of services that pertain more to the local community and working-class. >> back in the day, we looked at

mission street, and now it does not look and feel anything like mission street. this is the last stand of the latino concentrated arts, culture and cuisine and people. we created a cultural district to do our best to conserve that feeling. that is what makes our city so cosmopolitan and diverse and makes us the envy of the world. we have these unique neighborhoods with so much cultural presence and learnings, that we want to preserve. [♪♪♪] >> right before the game starts, if i'm still on the field, i look around, and i just take a deep breath because it is so exciting and magical,

not knowing what the season holds is very, very exciting. it was fast-paced, stressful, but the good kind of stressful, high energy. there was a crowd to entertain, it was overwhelming in a good way, and i really, really enjoyed it. i continued working for the grizzlies for the 2012-2013 season, and out of happenstance, the same job opened up for the san francisco giants. i applied, not knowing if i would get it, but i would kick myself if i didn't apply. i was so nervous, i never lived anywhere outside of fridays fridays --

fresno, and i got an interview. and then, i got a second interview, and i got more nervous because know the thought of leaving fresno and my family and friends was scary, but this opportunity was on the other side. but i had to try, and lo and behold, i got the job, and my first day was january 14, 2014. every game day was a puzzle, and i have to figure out how to put the pieces together. i have two features that are 30 seconds long or a minute and a 30 feature. it's fun to put that al together and then lay that out in a way that is entertaining for the fans. a lucky seat there and there, and then, some lucky games that include players. and then i'll talk to lucille, can you take the shirt gun to the bleachers. i just organize it from top to

bottom, and it's just fun for me. something, we don't know how it's going to go, and it can be a huge hit, but you've got to try it. or if it fails, you just won't do it again. or you tweak it. when that all pans out, you go oh, we did that. we did that as a team. i have a great team. we all gel well together. it keeps the show going. the fans are here to see the teams, but also to be entertained, and that's our job. i have wonderful female role models that i look up to here at the giants, and they've been great mentors for me, so i aspire to be like them one day. renelle is the best. she's all about women in the workforce, she's always in our

corner. [applause] >> i enjoy how progressive the giants are. we have had the longer running until they secure day. we've been doing lgbt night longer than most teams. i enjoy that i work for an organization who supports that and is all inclusive. that means a lot to me, and i wouldn't have it any other way. i wasn't sure i was going to get this job, but i went for it, and i got it, and my first season, we won a world series even if we hadn't have won or gone all the way, i still would have learned. i've grown more in the past four years professionally than i think i've grown in my entire adult life, so it's been eye opening and a wonderful learning

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>> my family's starts in mexico in a small town. my parents are from a very, very small town. so small, that my dad's brother is married to one of my mom's sisters. it's that small. a lot of folks from that town are here in the city. like most immigrant families, my parents wanted a better life for us. my dad came out here first. i think i was almost two-years-old when he sent for us. my mom and myself came out here. we moved to san francisco early on. in the mission district and moved out to daily city and bounced back to san francisco. we lived across the street from the ups building. for me, when my earliest memories were the big brown trucks driving up and down the street keeping us awake at night. when i was seven-years-old and

i'm in charge of making sure we get on the bus on time to get to school. i have to make sure that we do our homework. it's a lot of responsibility for a kid. the weekends were always for family. we used to get together and whether we used to go watch a movie at the new mission theater and then afterwards going to kentucky fried chicken. that was big for us. we get kentucky fried chicken on sunday. whoa! go crazy! so for me, home is having something where you are all together. whether it's just together for dinner or whether it's together for breakfast or sharing a special moment at the holidays. whether it's thanksgiving or christmas or birthdays. that is home. being so close to berkley and oakland and san francisco, there's a line. here you don't see a line. even though you see someone

that's different from you, they're equal. you've always seen that. a rainbow of colors, a ryan bow of personalities. when you think about it you are supposed to be protecting the kids. they have dreams. they have aspirations. they have goals. and you are take that away from them. right now, the price is a hard fight. they're determined. i mean, these kids, you have to applaud them. their heart is in the right place. there's hope. i mean, out here with the things changing everyday, you just hope the next administration makes a change that makes things right. right now there's a lot of changes on a lot of different levels. the only thing you hope for is for the future of these young kids and young folks that are getting into politics to make the right move and for the folks who can't speak. >> dy mind motion. >> even though we have a lot of fighters, there's a lot of voice less folks and their voiceless

because they're scared. >> at the san francisco recreation and parks department we offer good quality day care of your child will love, including outdoor adventures, aquatics, and programs for children on the optimism -- >> it was an outdoor stadium for track and field, motorcycle and auto and rugby and cricket located in golden gate park, home to professional football, lacross and soccer. adjacent to the indoor arena.

built in the 1920s. the san francisco park commission accepted a $100,000 gift from the estate to build a memorial in honor of pioneers in the area. the city and county of san francisco contributed an additional $200,000 and the stadium was built in a year. in the 1930s it was home to several colleges such as usf, santa clara and st. mary's for competition and sporting. in 1946 it became home to the san francisco 49ers where they played nearly 25 years. the stayed de yam sat 60,000 fans. many caught game the rooftops and houses. the niners played the last game against the dallas cowboys january 3, 1971 before moving to candlestick park. the stadium hosted other events before demolition in 1989.

it suffered damages from the earthquake. it was reconstructed to seat 10,000 fans with an all weather track, soccer field and scoreboards. it hosts many northern california football championship games. local high schools sacred heart and mission high school used the field for home games. the rivalry football games are sometimes played here. today it is a huge free standing element, similar to the original featuring tall pink columns at the entrance. the field is surrounded by the track and used by high school and college football and soccer. it is open for public use as well.