>> thank you. at this time i like to call the november 1 meeting of the redistricting task force to order. by way of introduction, i am the committee chair arnold townsend. madam clerk, are there any announcements? >> clerk: the minutes will reflect that task force members participated in this meeting remotely through video conference. the task force recognizes that public access the city services is essential and advise public participation in the following ways. first public comment will be available on each item on this agenda. each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak. your opportunity to speak are available via phone by calling

(415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617 pound and then pound again. when connected you will be muted in listen mode only. when your item of interest comes up dial star 3 to be added to the speaker line. i would like to acknowledge that today we have three different

audio interpretation rooms that will be available for the special order 7:30 for items 7 and 8. you can find the call-in information for chinese, spanish and filipino. this is our first attempt providing audio interpretations for these languages during the task force meeting. we ask for everyone's patience as we navigate. that concludes my announcements. >> thank you, please call the item number 1, roll call. >> clerk: item number one is roll call for members. when you hear your name please indicate that you are present. [ roll call ]

you have a quorum. >> thank you. call agenda item number 2. >> clerk: item 2 is to allow teleconference meeting under california government code section 54953e. we'll be taking public comments. members of the public wish to provide public comment on this resolution should call the number now (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617

then press pound twice to connect to the meeting and press star 3 to enter the queue to speak. please wait until the system indicate you have been unmuted. >> thank you. madam clerk, colleagues, we have before us today a resolution to approve that will allow us to continue meeting remotely for the next 30 days. in order to do that, we must find that the state of california and the city remain in state of emergency due to the covid-19 pandemic and have considered the circumstances of the state of emergency. state and city officials continue to recommend measures to promote physical distancing and other social distancing measures. in some set -- because of the

covid-19 pandemic, conducting meetings of this body in person with public access to such meeting would present imminent risk to the safety of attendees and the state of emergency continue to directly impact the ability of members to meet safely in-person. therefore, for at least the next 30 days, meetings of the redistricting task force may continue to occur by teleconference technology and an opportunity for members of the public to address this body will continue to occur in a manner that protects the statutory and constitutional rights of the parties and members of the public attending meetings via teleconference. madam clerk, we take a voten this. have there any public comment?

>> clerk: if you wish to speak on this item please enter star 3 now. do we have any speakers? >> we have one person in the queue. >> caller: great. this is david pilpel. i had some minor tweaks from the last two resolves in the second sentence. such meetings of, i would insert the word the redistricting task force in the first the further result and last, next meeting of the redistricting task force at the end.

it's just minor. it's not the end of the world. the rest of it works fine. thank you very much. >> clerk: any other callers? >> public comment is closed at this time. could we proceed? >> clerk: we need a motion and move and a second to go ahead and approve the minutes. >> motion has been approved.

>> you heard the motion -- >> sorry, point of order. we were on still item which was making findings to allow teleconferenced meetings and not the brief of the minutes. >> clerk: yes, sorry, resolution for the findings. >> i need a motion on that resolution that i believe -- >> i move to adopt the option >> clerk: on the motion for item number two.

[roll call vote] there are nine ayes. >> chair: thank you, madam clerk. could we move on to agenda item number three? >> clerk: approval of the minutes from the october 22, 2021 special meeting. this is a discussion and action item. we will be taking public

comment. for members of the public who wish to provide public comment. please call (415)655-0001 enter the meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617 press star 3 to enter the queue to speak. >> chair: thank you. is there any public comment on this item? >> there are no speakers. >> clerk: we do not have any

callers? >> chair: thank you so much. can we move to approval of the minutes. >> clerk: we do need a second. >> chair: first of all, let me close public comment and we can move. >> i move to adopt the minutes. >> clerk: second? >> chair: please call the roll. for item number three. [roll call vote]

there are nine ayes. >> chair: minutes have been previewed -- approved. >> clerk: item 4 is census geography including census tracts, census blocks, and geographic units used in redistricting. we'll be taking public comment. if you wish to provide public comment should call the line number now. (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617 press pound symbol twice to connect to the meeting and star 3 to enter the queue to speak.

>> chair: thank you so much. today, colleagues, joined by terry mcdonald and jamie clark. the redistricting consultants data and research. the floor is yours. >> good evening members of the task force. it's great to be here with you. i am really excited to introduce my colleague jaime clark to you. jaime is a redistricting consultant veteran. have worked with the state of california with redistricting commission. currently working with the state of california as worked on the

last redistricting in the city. we might take a look at the geography that you will be using to build your district lanes. i know there was some interest looking at the district in the way that the districts may flow. i'm going to hand it over to jaime. i hope she can be given privilege to share her screen so that she can show the mapping software and walk you through some of the details of how districts are and give you a demo. over to jaime, thank you.

>> i have not really used microsoft teams in platform. bear with me as i figure out how to share my screen. the map is on the screen now reflects the boundaries of the current districts in city and county of san francisco. the boxes on them are the district number and the percent deviation. please let me know if you like anything to be changed, for example, the bottoms will occupy here, i can meet those figures

make them easier to see. please let me know before we do this walk through. if there's anything else that you like to see or have changed on the map. as you can see there's some redistricting that you're doing. this is just on the percent deviation of the current district. some them in the negative 8%, district 6, which is of course the is over 30% over populated. as you know, you'll be moving the district boundaries to balance the district. today, we just do a quick overview of the census geography

in the city and county of san francisco. we can do a brief demo just showing -- just an example showing moving lines and what that process is like and what you can expect during the redistricting process as we're working together. i'm going to take this boundary off for a little bit. i will turn on the census tracts boundary. what is on the current screen

census track in san francisco, they don't cross county lines. there won't be pieces of a tract in san mateo county for example and different piece of the same tract in san francisco. with the software that we are using, we can show lot of information on the geography level. we can show the total number of people in each individual census tract. we can use these to sort of move the lines around. i'm going to put on the current districts again so you can see inside each of the districts. there are a number of census tracts. the census tract population will

be popping up. the street name will appear. it can be customized to be accessible as possible for all of you and for anyone in the public who's watching. again, i'm going to keep zooming. i'm going to turn this -- one moment please. here we go. i'm going to turn the screen off so it's easier to see. there's a total population of every census block throughout san francisco. you can visualize -- you can see it on the map and report with these numbers as you are deciding how to move boundaries.

even the smallest units of geography on which the census -- on which the census data are reported or the census block. you can see just how many census blocks there are in san francisco. these generally follow street boundaries. you can see grids here in san francisco. here's market. you can see sort of the grid of the street around twin peaks. not a grid there. this is golden gate park. presidio. even in here, there's a lot of data loaded on to the map. then additionally, you can zoom

in. i know these numbers are really small. these numbers represent the total population and individual -- census block. the total population of every census block, that's the unit of census geography that ultimately you're matching with. all of those add up to the total population of each of your district. do anybody have any questions before we move on to a brief mapping demo?

>> once jaime has moved into the census block, essentially you use these as building blocks to build your district. what we will have later on is a different level of geography which is community interest and neighborhood. as you're selecting those, they will show up on the map. you can use them for census building purposes. other major data points that we can pull up on the census block level. this is the geography where the census bureau releases data. other variables is certain ratio

and ethnic population group. it's a little bit of additional information available from the census that can be displayed beings. that's available to you for district building purposes. if there are any questions, i'll be happy to answer them. it not, jamie can do a quick little demo. >> clerk: we have few members on the roster. member pierce? >> hi, guys. i have a weird connection. i'm going to go quickly.

sorry if i break up. i have two questions. the first one is is there a possibility to add -- it was suggested by a member of the public and i really like this idea. can we add in number of registered voters either per district or per census block? number two, exactly what is this mat form for software that you are using? is it available to us as members and is it available to members of the public so they can experiment as well? >> i will take that first question. in terms of registered voter, that's something we can pull in later. that's not usually something you use to build districts because, your criteria don't say build

district on registers voters. it's an evaluation you can do later. we're able to pull that in. on the second question, we're using that for consulting purposes. members was public and you will have a mapping tool available publicly and will have that up and running by next meeting. we can give you a road show and explain how it works and have all of the associated documentation available for you on your website so you can have a launch and you can test drive it. essentially that's the same thing. there's bells and whistles that moment people don't need. there's bunch of stuff that we

do need. that's why it's a different program. >> chair: next question. >> next is member jeremy lee. >> i have kind of high level general question about census blocks. what are census blocks? how are they determined? can i get a little bit of background on that? >> absolutely. you're talking to the right person here. i was in charge of the block boundary suggestion project for the state of california. this is something that happens every ten years. just like precinct, voting

precincts are an organizing tool to collect data for the registrar. census block is an organizing tool to collect data and report data to the census bureau. there's a program every ten years. it happened in 2017 and 2018 where the census -- gave the state the opportunity to weigh in on the way that the census blocks were drawn. interesting thing about census blocks, there's not that many people that care about it.

most people don't really care about census block is. when you are drawing lines, you want to make sure that you have a census block where you need it. it's like weirdly shaped. then you're collecting. there was not a lot of population this there. the census bureau just grabbed that for a boundary. what california did is, have been doing for the last 20 plus years, we have given cities and towns an opportunity to weigh in and look at their census

boundary and say we need another boundary. for example if there's big development some place and the whole development was within one census block and they know there's more density come. they want to have multiple census blocks in that area and not just one. you may be between the rock and a hard place when you have to draw out your districts. it's really nize sizeable to split a census block. you don't know the population and you open yourself up. essentially, california said we want everybody to weigh in. take a look at your census block. let us know if you want changes. we collected through my office

different audit -- databases. we really wanted to do these maps and took a look 8 them closely and cleaned up.this is the results now. we'll have another stab at it in few years. i'm sure it's not perfect. it's a block boundary suggestion. that's kind of the medium lengths explanation on in. if you like more information, i'm very happy.

>> i had another structural question. let's take valencia t would be difficult to put both side of valencia into one block. you can run them line on mission. then you have both sides of valencia nap is safe. as long as you run it through -- the census is always on the street. when want to know where the line is. you have to put the line some

place. where are people actually being counted? the way they report population in size just going door-to-door and looking at addresses and delineating and mapping in grid. >> these are the streets inthe boundaries between is nine i will turn the lox on right now.

the line is on mission street. >> thank you so much for that. ast it for my question. >> clerk: next is member castillon. >> i was wondering if we start to be able to get a sense of the percentage that call into racial and ethnicity grupp -- groups.

>> we can pull some of the data up. that's what count is. we'll collaborate with your legal live. >> i'm curious how the software, are they essential when we're

drawing these maps. >> thank you so much for that question. there are absolutely you could draw a -- there are reports that could be run against the boundaries that you're creating that make sure there's no unassigned area. making sure everything is rode and san francisco is assigned to each district.

>> we talked about this last time little bit. there are really no -- there are measures still that can be run if somebody is interested. i think that generally, it's not that high up on the pole. they may not be living in squares or in reck tangs -- reck tang that may be a trade-off. how come -- thank you.

>> clerk: next is member hernandez gil. >> would it be possible to get at list of writing that's available? i didn't have time to write them all down. >> can do. >> the other question that i have is little bit more technical. that's around the margin of error. is the american of error is -- is it something that we should be looking at? that's the question. >> thank you for that question.

do you mean the margin of error in terms of the census data put out do you mean the deviation? >> the census data. >> that is a great question. there are quite a few people sitting, trying to figure that out right now. because the census is using a new privacy methodology. that methodology is changing. it's changing the margin of error that we were used to. there's quite bit of analysis going on right now, trying to figure out what will we be looking at and whether there's major discrepancies based on real estate and ethnicity. if you're interested in this, i

can pull something together for one of the upcoming meetings to talk about some of the major things out there. i will be very happy to present to you next time. >> that would be incredibly interested this particularly given your comments right now. i want to keep track of that margin of error. it's pretty significant enough to change some of the decisions. the last question is somewhat related. i see here you have the

deviations by district. those are the deviations that i calculated myself. for some reason, they're about up to .3% off from what was shared with the department of elections with the board of supervisors and their report. i'm trying to understand why they are different. is somebody making a mistake? i want to get some assistance around those deviation. >> right, i'm guess it's a rounding issue. we'll take a look at it. there were quite a few data sets that were slightly adjusted. we're going to make sure we have the right one in there when

pulling this up. >> additionally, i created this map using whole census blocks. i believe that because the census tracts -- census block changed, there are stances in which the current boundary split new census blocks. the 2011 boundaries split the 2020 census blocks. my guess would be that may be there's a little bit of population in some of those blocks that weren't accounted for in the percent deviation >> commissioner: is it possible that the d.o.j. present data hasn't been loaded?

>> this map does reflect the adjusted data set. i can't speak for the data that was provided to you. >> it could have been the same data sets. i'm guessing it has to do with the blocks. we'll look at it. >> clerk: next up on the roster is member cooper. >> commissioner: i have one quick comment. i do think that this map shows highways in the city. thankfully we do not center that many highways in the city.

for public when -- i want to have few more references there. that's all. >> clerk: that concludes the roster for now. >> chair: thank you ladies and gentlemen. i believe we could proceed to public comment. if there is any? >> clerk: for those who wish to speak please press star 3 on the speaker line. the prompt will inform that you have been unmuted and that is time to begin your comment.

do we have speakers? [ indiscernible ] >> caller: i appreciate this meeting tonight. i was hoping to hear -- i'm from d6, which is treasure island. i think we're going to be impacted by the new census data. can you explain what communities of interest means if we're trying to build the rationale and the argument for keeping the

tenderloin in district 6. the tenderloin is community of interest with needs etcetera? thank you so much. >> clerk: next caller e please. >> caller: hi, i'm a tenderloin resident. i noticed look at the -- looking at the map for the tenderloin it looks like a carve out. there's a line that goes down market street. there's a line by the bay. that makes sense. what i'm worried about is because the tenderloin, which is the community of common interest with south of market area, is irregular and not elegant in the

design according to this map. it might get lost or get lost in district 3. that would be a real tragedy. there's so many overlaps between route tenderloin. there's lot of communities of color. i hope won't let map elegance persuade you from moving -- taking the tenderloin out of district 6. >> caller: hi, i'm with the league of voters of san francisco. my comment is follow-up to

member jeremy lee's question. in appendix e that defines all the supervisorial district boundaries, like valencia is straight down the middle. it describes like the boundaries are eastern edge of 19th avenue. it's a western edge from rivera. this is a follow-up question. it's may be all eastern side. it's part of this one district. the western side is part of one

district. this is just a follow-up. thank you for the presentation so far. thanks. >> clerk: any member who has not lined up to speak, press star 3 to get on the line. >> caller: this is david pilpel again. just follow-up from jen's comment, my recollection from ten years ago was that streets like van ness and 19th avenue which have a median strip or center island. in some cases these median strips have their own ink which may -- census block blocks.

that's why the boundaries can be described as the east side, west side or the center. depending on where that line is cut and how that became relevant when as i recall, the state independent citizen redistricting commission used van ness for part of the boundary for one of the districts. then bart used the other side of van ness for their boundary and you ended up with a ballot type that was created that had zero population. aligning the boundaries that go down streets like that be one side or the other and be

consistent probably using whoever gets there first, i think would avoid some of those problems. i'm sure this makes sense karin. >> caller: thank you so much for the great presentation. it's mapped to my question. is there any better granularity census block on racial opposition? more detail like chinese, vietnamese, filipino, is it just asian alone?

>> caller: i'm a resident in the district 4 area. thank you for volunteering for this job. on a personal level regarding district 4, this might be in the

process. the district 4 has a large -- will be changed definitely. i wanted to point tout that the historic neighborhood -- i lived there for 50 years. i think it makes sense to keep the neighborhood together. onward, it will be interesting to get the historic pictures similar to what was sent today.

>> clerk: today we're providing two minutes for public comment. sorry to cut you off. >> chair: thank you. that closes public comment. are there any other comments from members? any further questions or comments, anyone in the queue? >> clerk: we do have members in the queue to speak. >> chair: thank you so much. members, we don't need to take action on this. i'm going to ask the clerk to file it and we will discuss it again as we move along in our processes. call item 5 and 6 together.

>> clerk: item 5 is consideration of amendments to the regular meeting schedule. agenda item 6 is an update on in-district and off-site meeting planning. we will be taking comments. if you want to provide comments call the public comment number. (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617 press pound and pound again. when you enter the meeting proceedings, press star 3 to enter the line to speak. >> chair: members, we're joined by the office of clerk of the

board and madam clerk, it is on you. >> clerk: thank you. on behalf of the clerk, i will be providing an overview of the regular meeting schedule that is currently for the task force. also we have a calendar that provides some suggestions, some highlights -- highlighted dates for the members to consider. let me go ahead and share my screen. here are the proposed meetings dates for upcoming -- starting october 2021. we can skip that. going into 2022 through april. you'll notice that the key we have the green date show what are the regular meeting dates

that you guys already scheduled. which will be the first mondays of the month. the yellow dates that we've highlighted are the dates that sfgov tv has confirmed it can be broadcasted. those regular meeting dates are included on those. in blue we have added dates that can be streamed online. we have been in discussions about moving you guys over to the webex system to allow streaming. they won't be broadcast. we could have them available for those who have online access. the red dates we have blacked out are going to be our holidays. the board winter-spring recess, the office the clerk of the board can support meetings for. also, in the packet, we included a few pages that were taken from the city attorney's presentation on october 22nd.

these ones are showing the last time in 2000 what that meeting schedule looks like. you can see, there were 39 meetings total. in red, showed that those were dates they had multiple meetings held in one day. in 2011, 2012, there were 30 meetings hold from a period starting in september and going through april. this is the calendar what your regular meeting schedules approvals have been. as we wanted to reiterate, we do understand, multiple meetings do need to be calendared. if the task force wants to begin considering are there other regular meeting dates you want

to add to your schedule, you can go ahead and take into consideration the dates that we have provided. we have a presentation from wilson ng, our operations deputy on the indistrict and off site meeting planning. >> thank you madam clerk. i have a presentation here for you today. good evening, it's my pleasure to present to you tonight on behalf of the office of clerk of the board and the clerk of the board operations division, i

like to provide you with a short presentation that provide you with our indistrict off site planning meeting plan to date. as you know following our presentation of the october 4th redistricting task force meeting, the clerk of the board operations division was tasked confirming the availability of potential off site locates that span across the 11 current supervisorial districts that are operations conducted sites which includes school sites, recreation and parks location, san francisco public library, police departments and the community partner sites that were recommended to us by members of the task force so we can confirm those potential availability. to date, we've have affirmative that there are approximating 19 locations to date that have

confirmed their availability. we are waiting for response if other sites. at this time, based on the locations that we've vetted out, we have sufficient potential facility location options for that span across all 11 district offices that could accommodate up to 100 or more people. that was one of the criteria that we looked at. we've also vetted facilities for potential facilities accommodations such as whether they provide a pa system or we need to bring our own. whether there's wifi connectivities for the members of the public most sites

generally requires three to four weeks advance schedule notice. this will come into play at a later point when it comes time to schedule logistics. i will address that in a later slide. on here, is a list of sites contacted. i like to give a quick acknowledgement to my operations team, mainly my staff, while also handling the clerk of the board's day-to-day operational duties. the slides is summary of prospective sites.

not all sites will be available. not all, used. we want to present this as a general idea that all sites we reached out to. as i mentioned in the previous slide. we had about 15 to 54 locations to far. this list is dynamic. we're expecting to hear back from additional sites so we can compile additional detail about what the accommodations are. the locations in red those are the sites that have confirmed they are not taking bookings at this time or they don't have the site to accommodate 100 people or more.

this is to give you a general sense what we have. in consideration some of the needs i will be presenting on the next slide, we're going to recommend that if in-person meetings can proceed optimistically, we would recommend one location per district and just because of timing and logistics and make sure that we have enough -- [ indiscernible ] that's if we're permitted to go off site. on this slide, these -- on the next slide i have discussion

items of what we'll need from the members of the redistricting task force. we would need the reservation times. every facility has time limitations before we can schedule. we need to schedule a start time.

if the task force decide the off site location, we need to work around logistical issues based on technological staffing and facility infrastructure constraints. if we need to adapt because there's limited connectivity, the meeting could be potentially audio only.

the meetings must occur by teleconference or other electronic means without providing physical meeting space. that is still in effect. unless the mayor's office or the board of supervisors determines otherwise, at this time, we're not able to secure reservation we would like to conserve date and times. just as a reminder for remote meetings, as i mentioned, sfgov tv broadcasting and web streaming schedule in the first and third monday and first and fourth friday.

we had presented a schedule for you where they are able to provide coverage. outside of those available dates we'll need to do online streaming via the webex system. in-person meetings, if we're going to do in-person meetings, sfgov tv coverage may not be available because of the cable casting and stream dates are for remote meetings only. online streaming will be contingent on connectivity and staffing and connection. another consideration for in-person meeting is with current health orders. but with future health orders at the time of reservations. if the health order changes, we

will need to adhere to health orders. it will be the task force's responsibility to adhere to and not only adhere but to enforce all health orders. to ensure safe intersections whether it's public to public, public to staff, etcetera. on the last slide, next steps. what the clerk of the board office is going to be, we're going to continue to monitor local and state guidance to resume in-person meeting.

in other words, what that means, unless determined otherwise by the board of supervisors or mayor, the city doesn't intend to take any action on on emergency order that prohibits in-person meetings. unless the board determines otherwise. board commission will not be permitted to resume in-person meeting until that date at the earliest. we're looking at potentially march just to set realistic expectations when a physical location can be secured.

we'll continue monitoring the state guidance for health orders and directives. that apples to in-person meetings. we'll continue to explore whether hybrid meetings will be available. the off of the clerk of the board, mayor's office on disability are exploring resource requirements and availability for addressing platform accessibility issues, technological capabilities and requirements to see if can be occur. that's something we will circle back on the task force. that concludes my presentation. thank you. >> chair: thank you. member questions?

>> clerk: member ho is first up on the roster. >> chair: the floor is yours. >> thank you chair townsend. thank you so much for that presentation. thank you to you and your staff for according this effort. i wanted to ask -- i saw that list of all these proposed sites. are you guys still taking additional recommendations? >> yes. we welcome them. we will contact all those sites. because of how many sites we have, we're able to choose from -- not all sites, like may be included in the ultimate selection what sites we want to use. we intentionally put all 19 locations that gave us the affirmative that they are looking at this time. we don't to give the false

impressions. there are a number of requirements that we're looking at. not just whether or not they are taking reservations but look at the capacity, we're looking at potential rental costs is and wifi, internet, custodial services, time parameters. noise requirement, etcetera. there's a number of elements that we're looking at. that will factor into our final decision. >> commissioner: thank you so much. >> clerk: next up is member cooper. i did see madam clerk. i'm not sure she has some things to add on this presentation. >> we wanted to provide you a continuation in the discussion

from the october 4th meeting regarding meeting and off site meeting and possibility for you to amend regular meeting schedule. you will probably also need a slew of special meetings as well. to the extent that we can put some more regular meetings on the calendar tonight and at your next meeting, we're happy to answer any questions that you might -- all questions are welcomed. thank you. >> clerk: next up on the roster is member cooper. >> commissioner: thank you. i'm going to be quick.

thank you for the presentation. one question. there's a private host on there. i know you've been talking about city facilities or nonprofit communities. can you talk about the relationship between the city and the private entity. [ indiscernible ] >> at this time, we're vetting any and all locations. as far as relationships for private entities go, i would need to confirm with the accounting and finance team before we can have a relationship with them. they believe they will have to meet client vendor.

we have included all locations for consideration here. that's going to be one of the criteria that will need to be met that they are compliant with the city. >> commissioner: one more question. i'm curious if us writing a letter or anything with the potentially persuading decision makers to have in-person meetings. i don't want to claim that we're super special, we have above and beyond really strong charge of having public input.

i'm curious writing a letter to see if that will be helpful in this process. >> that's a great question. as far as health or thes are -- orders are concerned, logistically, it's not that much of a concern as it pertains to health orders. it's the health orders should somebody not adhere to the rules. and who that authority will be. if the task force is the one that host a meeting off site with existing health orders. for example masking in large grupps is still required at that time, if members of the public decides not wear a mask and makes a political statement, who the enforcement authority will be and who will make that call?

it is not clerk of the board to decide but it is the body to decide. from operational perks, -- perspective, it's about resource and staffing able to enforce the non-compliance individuals. the larger issue is the supplemental.

>> commissioner: two areas that i'm looking at geographically to take a second look and find more sites. one is sort of the district 1 district 2, district 5 overlap. that was a huge point of discussion the last go around. >> there's a location on our map that includes overlap between district 1 and 5. >> chair: i was knocked off for

a moment. which is probably something i did. i'm back. is there anyone else? >> clerk: we have member jeremy lee. >> commissioner: thank you. i want to thank the clerk's office for their tremendous lift you have done. all that effort is very much not lost on us. i want to say, very appreciative of your work. i want to get a better sense of the health order and how it interplay with our ability to schedule meetings. there's kind of an operational piece who enforces it. there's a piece of the order itself. i want to get a better understanding.

what are the roadblocks? >> as far as the legal ramifications are concerned, i always pull over to the said of the road for d.c.a. andrew schenn to weigh in and provide commentary on the actual health order. would wait to save my comments after he made his comments. i don't see his camera on at the moment. if you wanted to weigh in? hello? >> good evening everyone. deputy city attorney schenn. thank you for your question.

, member lee. in terms of the current state health order, at this time, it's a fluid situation, at this time basically commission like redistricting task force will not meet in person. in terms of things beyond that dating i'm unclear about that now. we can start talking to others like the mayor's office who mays a critical role in establishing health orders to see whether there's any flexibility about

it. >> clerk: thank you so much for weighing in. jeremy lee, operationally speaking, regardless of how that turns out. we we should look for at least 22 sites. look at potential dates. my staff can continue to hone in on what they are offering as far as amenities are concerned. you heard mr. ng mentioned, what can be done at these sites.

i know mr. ng major concern is these sites need 30 days before they allow something to occur there. we do have little bit of time to work the details and may be it can all fit together. it will be a wing and a prayer. >> commissioner: as we're going to be in remote meeting, i know we kicked around idea having agenda specific items. i appreciate the practical challenges securing in-person

locations. i think there's ways to get public comment to get public feedback. >> in a moment, you will hear the presentation from civic edge. they have plan their outreach around district focused community of interest. >> chair: are there any other members? >> clerk: next up is member hernandez gil. >> thank you. i wanted to thank everyone involved. it's greatly appreciated. my first question or only question is in regards to the proposed meeting dates and times. it was my understanding we wanted to have weekend dates may

be one or two. they're all blank here. good to know if any of these kind of either be broadcast or streamed online. the other comment was mannered adding regular meetings. i would lo to do that this meeting so i can get it on my calendar. based on this, looks like the third wednesday of the month looks pretty good between now and april in terms of availability. >> we are offering you the green days, the yellow days, blue days and i'm sorry, i didn't wright it -- write it down, it's the white days. one thing we're asking -- requesting, those meetings that

are during the week that they should be in the evening time. we're suggesting four four, five or six as your beginning time frame. we are offering up the weekend. we anticipated that you would ask for that. we are prepared to do that. my admin deputy i don't think she's on now. i will be surprising her in the morning if we do choose. she will have her staff doing overtime for those classifications with overtime to do that work. i have contacted the controller. i have let the controller know that the staffing of the redistrict task force -- we trying to offer you as many

resources as we can. >> chair: next. >> clerk: i believe that concludes the roster. we move on. there are couple of comments that i had. number one, ideally, i would have loved if we could have had two in-person meetings in each. it's pretty clear. -- if we do in-person meetings, there are a couple of districts that i don't think one meeting would work.

in district 6 you have treasure island to require people to come come. he if we do in-person meeting, there, other districts that are spread out. and break. there are only districts we need to look at if we will do in-person meetings. certainly districts that are spread out like that, we'll probably say we have the meeting. perhaps we ought to start looking at some remote district

meetings. we may be ready for public comments. >> clerk: member cooper? >> commissioner: what the --[ indiscernible ] >> chair: thank you. somehow that wasn't communicated to me. if it want, -- i didn't get it.

can we move to that special item? >> clerk: or we can take the public comment and close this ume out. we have one item. members of the public who wish to provide public comments on this item. tall, (415)655-0001. please press star 3 to 5 to -- we have three callers on the line. >> caller: this is public

comment on items 5 and 6 taken together. if you can give me 30 second warning i would appreciate that. these comments blend into the outreach plan. i was thinking it would make sense to have two rounds of outreach in each district in the first round to tray to define have been -- second round is to preview a propose mask. that may be accomplished online. you can have -- if the meetings

aren't being held in-person, i would consider posters to generate interest and drive participation. i'm thinking, it will be interesting to have more than one map for the city. people might say i like plan number four instead of plan number seven. >> clerk: thank you. next believe -- >> caller: it will be great to have a published calendar on the

task force website for member of the committee can go and easily see all the future meeting dates. i think couple of other county have done that their -- we do ask for any special meetings do to you give us more than five days of advance advance notice. it's not enough time for let people know. lastly, i think i saw on the suggestioned list of sites that there was a police department location. i want to urge you to think about psychs that all community members.

>> clerk: next caller please. >> caller: i'm with league of women's voters in san francisco. we like to strongly support having a public calendar so --

while we appreciate the support, we appreciate and support city attorney schenn's comments having district specific items -- lot of them really don't know. what community interested in other practical parts of engaging the process. this can be done with videos that are available online and people can attend community meetings i don't to attend. one final comments are on

assess. we like to ask staff not rely just assumed colors to at this to convey.there are lot of otheo do that. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. >> caller: this is dave elliott davis. just couple of thoughts on the community meeting outreach process. i'm in the district 6. as was stated by a task force

member, we have very broad -- i know talking about three meetings. that's how the birds are. a meeting will be really helpful. if you are able to stay at your meet, i highly recommend you adding them to the list. that can hold 300 people. that's a large meeting room. that can be part of your -- it's not about outreach, it's about

participation. which is in the past, members of the public have been able to access the mapping tools to create their own suggested maps. i'm wondering if on the website walk provide links to allow members of the public to create their own create maps and experiment with it and propose that to the task force. please make them available. thank you very much. >> caller: hi. i'm from league of women's voters of san francisco. i wanted to second the previous comments around scheduling out meetings. i know way back at the third

meeting, and -- there's going to be lot of redistricting meetings. there's going to be meetings around what is an overview teaching the community on what redistricting it. also, there's community of interest here in meeting sessions. also, hopefully having specific meetings. i want to second comments about whether to have police station as meeting spaces.

>> clerk: that might complete the queue. any more callers? mr. chair? >> chair: thank you. at this point. i like to table this and move to our 7:30 special order. we still need to discuss this and decide on some things about our meeting schedule. if there are no objections, that's where we need to go right now. >> clerk: items numbers 5 and 6 have been heard and now filed. moving on to item 7, which is 7:30 special order. it's a presentation of the proposed outreach plan. this is a discussion and possible action item. we will be taking public comment. members of the public who wish

to provide public comment on this matter, should call the public comment number, (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2482 394 7617 then press pound symbol twice to connect to the meeting and press star 3 to enter the -- queue to speak. please wait until the system indicate that you have been unmuted. as i stated, we have three different audio interpretation rooms that are now open and available for the special order at 7:30. for item numbers 7 and 8. you can find the call-in information for chinese, spanish and filipino as i indicated this is our first attempt providing audio interpretations for these

languages. when we do call for public comment, you will need to call into the regular public comment lead to -- you will not be able to provide public comment in the interpretation room this you are in. it is not bridged to the current meeting. we ask interpreters to protoinstructions at the appropriate time. do we have agnus on the line? [speaking chinese]

>> clerk: arturo?

[speaking spanish]. >> clerk: thank you.

raymond noel boris?

>> clerk: thank you for being here with us today. mr. chair? >> chair: thank you. now for our 7:30 special order. let me apologize, we're getting to it later than anticipated. at this time i will present elizabeth sunshine, rosy dilger and evelyn torres for members from the task force. >> you're aware of the 7:30 time certain nature of this item and next item. both items have language line associated in language with them. this is an experiment that we're trying out. we they will that to begin -- we felt to begin with the outreach

that we needed to let the public know -- we want communities of interest to be able to know that they're invited this task force. [please stand by]

>> thank you, chair townsend, members of the task force. ms. cavillo, we are very excited to be here tonight we

want to hear from you and make sure we weigh all of the issues that are facing you right now in your moving forward and so we're really looking forward to having this discussion with you. i will introduce our project manager, rosy rosie dilger and evelyn taurus who will be kicking off the presentation for you. evelyn. >> great. can we get the slides going? i'm not sure who's going to be doing that. >> i will share the slide. >> perfect. thank you.

okay. great. just to piggy back off elizabeth. thank you for welcoming us task force and members and community who are here. my name is evelyn taurus. i am a new addition to a civic edge consulting. i'm excited to not only be part of this team, but this is very historic. this happens every 10 years and it doesn't happen in every city in the united states and so i'm excited that we are able to do this with community and that is absolutely our approach to our work and the specific project. i have a background in politics, government, and working collaboratively with community and especially with civic edge. we understand how critical it is and what lines need to be drawn and overall, just a livelihood of our community.

so we do our best to put the best things together and we want to really push the envelope and push strategies in a collaborative way. let me go ahead and introduce the rest of our team and if we can get started with the plan. those of you who may not have heard of the edge consulting, we were funded in 2003 and focus is women-led and employee-led. it's very rare that you see that nowadays and also with the inclusion of people of color. people who live in community, who are amongst community and have that life experience and also that relevancy that we really need to bring through our work. so let me go ahead and introduce again, i'm evelyn taurus. i'm a new director. we have abraham. jenny, you all know our great

president, lisbet sunshine. and peter who is our vice president of community engagement. so we're all excited to be here and go ahead and get started with the slides. the next one, please. so we want to go over these four points because it's what leads our work and what should lead this work. so, number one, we always want to make sure we're honoring community space. we want to meet people where they are. second, accessibility and community outreach. many community members have voiced this out as the meeting has started and a lot of members in have done so as well. and just to speak on that just

a little bit, we not only have a diverse city, but even within our cultures, we're very complex. not only understanding we're going into a community that's multi-language and multi-culture, how do we also understand if there's already, you know, groups that have already formed, they may have their own strategies and so we really make that a priority. make sure that we're listening first and then acting accordingly. third, investing time and resources to connect with underdeserved community and neighborhoods. this is our reality. you know, we wish that, you know, all of our communities have the resources, the same resources, but they don't. and so we have to set this in the center. right. we want to take a look at how

do we communicate with all community members while allocating the right resources, the right time with the small amount of time we can have. definitely tricky, but i think we can do it. and last one, look for opportunities to engage. i think this last one happens when we're talking with government and community. it's very consistent and overarching i think plan that, you know, we ourselves are trying to figure out and we want to make sure this is also a priority. next slide, please. and so here we're going to go over these three segments. and then we'll go much more into detail afterward. so how are we going to approach? how are we going to be able to

hear the voices of our community members? what are goals of engagement. for example, amplified city wide efforts. broad make sure we're broad and targeted. equitable engagement. we want to throw a large net out with the understanding that there's only so many task members, there's only so many team members, but we have so many resources within the city of san francisco and beyond. there's many organizations that are connected to community. there's many neighborhoods that are also very active and so we want to also engage people who are are interested and already being part of the work by making sure that it's also targeted. others may be -- may have more time. some people do have the privilege perhaps to tune in at an afternoon meeting and maybe

we need more meetings in the evening. and so we also want to gage when can people tune in, when is a better time and include the multi-lateral language, priorities, and so forth. and then most importantly is cultural competency, right. our communities are the experts. they live in our districts. they live in our cities. they're growing our cities and so we want to go in as an approach of learning. as much as we feel like we also know and we have strategy. i think it's great for us to share tool kits such as mapping tools and so forth that others have brought up that we'll go into later, but also allow community to then themselves oregon. second, call to action. what does that look like. participate in the process. engage and share resources in their communities. drive people to district meetings. encourage public comment tests

for meetings. direct people to mapping tools. i'll start with the last one. if, you know, i just want to be clear we understand that even though we have a large variety of community members who may have access to have the computer or internet, it's not accessible to everyone. those who are able log on. it's a great source to see what has happened in the past years and have a visual understanding of your current district and others. so it's just an extra tool to have, but it's not going to be the primary way of engaging our community members. the second, the other part's participating in the process, engaging and share resources in the community and driving people to district meetings. it's been mentioned also in this call is, we have to be

very honest of what is going to attract community members to meetings. right, and this goes beyond picking and choosing times that people who work late at night can attend and also what is the best way for people to want to do it. for example, i had the privilege of doing a redistricting project ten years ago in the city of oakland and we actually did a physical mapping, and it was led by some p.b.o.s who allowed us to create our own map and i think i may actually still have the map, but that was a long lasting not only experience of me having agency over what happens in my city, but i think it's a great loophole to continue to bring community back into priority issues that

impact them day by day. and so for that, we do need to and so we are working in collaboration we elected officials and the clerk's office as well. so we really also lean on them to work together with us on how to continue to reach as many people as we can and maybe folks have already mentioned it. we need to have many meetings and in multiple ways. we go through zoom. we're open to all suggestions. this is just the beginning and

i want to make that clear. we're going to share an approach and we also would like feedback and if you have your own ideas, please share them. next slide. >> thank you, evelyn. thank you so much for setting us up this far. hello task force members. thank you for having us. just starting off from where evelyn left off and also from the last item that you had about district events, in the work that we are conducting, we are doing community outreach in a very broad sense, but also a targeted one. as you already know, the district events are going to be managed primarily by the clerk's office and the department of elections and other city agencies. so we will not necessarily be planning or staffing those. there are outreach as we see as a really broad effort to complement and amplify those. so that means a few things. with these events, we want to make sure that stakeholder groups and cbos, that we're driving people to these

meetings and we're working with our contacts and organizations and giving people as many resources and tools they have to get to these meetings and participate in this process. and part of that was working with our city agencies and elected officials, working with the board of supervisors who have been sending out information in newsletters and posting on social media as well as promoting an e-mail list basically to a large group of cbos that we have coordination with, department of elections, and also as a firm, we've gathered many over many years and a lot of great contacts. so we will be engaging in that sense and promoting the district events. next slide, please. so for our civil work and type of outreach that we are engaged to do, we are -- what we are proposing is to do somewhat of

a road show with direct engagement to a number of stakeholder groups. we are targeting 45 to 55 groups where instead of hosting meetings and asking people to come to us, our plan is to target them in a group and say can we come see you. and so what that looks like is talking with all of you and getting your feedback and interest so we know how to prioritize groups and where the places we want to go and reaching out to them and saying what would you like from us? we'd love to come into a presentation, do a q&a. work with you to get input whether it be the mapping tool or just a paper form. the data can be collected in a number of ways and as communication folks have done a lot of outreach, we are looking for ways to really kind of tailor the way that we engage

with any working group. and understand there are going to be some neighborhoods in districts where there are a lot of groups that are organized and, you know, have regular meetings and say, hey, can we get on your agenda, but we also know there are many communities and especially underrepresented communities that maybe don't have that same avenue. we want to find ways to do that. and the way that we are looking at it is in-person presentations, virtual presentations, tabling and public settings. if we're in a neighborhood where the best place to meet people is at a senior center and we can set up a table outside and gather input that way, that's what we're going to do. intercept outreach which is basically flagging people down and talking to them one on one as well as mapping demonstrations and training. and throughout all of this, our

goal is to collect as much data and input as possible. we're going to have a form to explain how to do that exactly as well as whenever we get questions or comments and, you know, some of that qualitative data that may not fit into the mapping tool or form, we're going to have a big tracking list that we update after every engagement and we'll share with you and the other consultants to make sure all of that data is set. and going after these groups, we have an incredible teams. we have a staff who will be working on and managing this project along with us. so when we go into these communities and groups and have these engagements, we will have folks who know the language, know the community, are the most similar and accurate acceptable so we can get into places where a traditional

public outreach campaign may not. next slide. so looking at that, there are a number of groups and type of groups that are sticking out for this type of road show. and, again, i'm emphasizing in addition to all the district meetings, we see the focus of our work being filling in those gaps and getting them into community that is are harder to reach and we can ask people to come to the big events and we hope that they do, but recognizing we want to meet people where they are, where they live, where they work, where they conjugate. and, with that, some of those groups are neighborhood groups and merchant associations, cbds depending on what the neighborhood is and the populations that they serve. the community-based organizations as well as community hubs. especially if we're in an area that doesn't have the same type of organized groups to

represent that, we want to make sure that like i said, we go to where people are and that could be a farmer's market, a community or a senior center. high traffic transit hubs and busy corridors and intersections as well as churches and faith-based institutions. we want to make sure we get to where people are and we find a way to engage with them outside of the process. next slide. so we want to start a conversation today about as i said, we can do up to 55 of these engagements, this road show across different groups and different opportunities to do that and we're looking for your priorities and support in how we get to those groups, but i also want to mention in addition to that, there's so many other ways that we are also going to engage and even

if it's, you know, not a direct we're going to come and give you a meeting, there are so many groups that are so well-invested in community and there's so many, you know, people in their per view that we want to make sure we not only share information, but that we also provide resources. so we want to develop really a tool kit. so even if we're not the ones that are going to go and give a presentation about how to get involved or what the tools are, we want to share that especially with cbos in larger community organizations so they can host their own meeting or share it out with their community and their hopes so whether you have us come to your organization or whether you want to host your own meeting that there is a tool kit to do that as well as always sharing out meeting information, getting notification and detail,

sharing collateral whether that's digital or dropping them off, providing blurbs to make it as easy and accessible as possible and not as too much especially as cbos that are so stretched thin. we want to give them as much information to make this an easy effort for them without asking too much of their time and their labor because they are already doing such great work. we want to provide resources rather than ask for resources. and, with this? we know how involved you are in your community and we would love any groups or contacts or people that you think should be included in our list and we would love to put them all together and share them and make sure we have the broadest outreach possible. next slide. so i want to move a little bit

into strategy. we know the road show that we would like to present. we know the groups tonight that we want to prioritize and invest our resources which are limited. and, to do that, i think we want to start also looking at the map and the deviation from the ideal population per district which you've all seen, of course. as you can see on the map, there are some districts that have had, you know, really incredible population. in district six and district ten and as somebody had pointed out, district six, it encompasses many neighborhoods and a lot of people and especially with treasure island, you know, that's a choice, that's an investment we may make if we want to put

resources there which i think we should, but we can talk through the discussion about where our values are based and what that looks like. next slide, please. so what i'm getting at is having a discussion where we talk about values based strategies. where we find value, what representing folks and getting into communities means to us to you as task force members and to the city and population of san francisco because we have limited resources and i think we can probably all agree that we want to use those in the most equitable way. and the way that we've looked at that time is these three points. we could say evenly across all districts, current districts, divide it all up equally. we could look at the areas that are most likely to be impacted

by the population shift and how district one may change where a supervisor represents them and what that means to them and we also want to look at those hard to reach communities that are underrepresented and underserved and are less likely to be involved in the typical process. so i'd like to open up a discussion betweenfasting force members to hear where your priorities are with these questions in mind just as a frame work. including what values inform your outreach priorities. where does population data impact those investment resources. do we invest them where there's

the greatest need or the hardest to reach population? do we invest them across vicinity groups and community or color? or do we focus on current district values and focus on traditional neighborhood boundaries such as neighborhoods that are known. these are really complicated conversations, but we would love to hear what your thinking is and have some direction and understanding of how we should tailor this because like i said, there are but we do have some tough choices to make and i would like to open that up to all of you. >> president: is that it? >> we're going to go on more. i thought perhaps we could have

a discussion first, but if you would rather think on this and we can get through the rest of the presentation. >> president: yeah. i'd rather you go through the presentation and then the members would have their questions and issues at the usual time. >> no problem. >> president: thank you. >> with that, next slide, please. so with those things in mind, we have done a little bit of a breakdown, but i do want to preface these district ideas with that these are starting off points and certainly not meant to encompass everything at the point of reference and from our experience, these are some outreach areas that we know are good places to reach folks by district. that said, we may end up coming up with a strategy that isn't

district focused, but we may want to go through and talk with the neighborhoods and share some consideration. so with district one, the richmond district, it's also on mountain, there are a lot of cbos, but there are less community groups in terms of like neighborhood associations. there are several cbos that are service providers to those communities. there are some community hubs and centers, lots of high traffic areas especially along the 38 and there are merchant groups. all of those are areas and opportunities for us to engage. some considerations are that these groups are closest to the borders of d2 and d5 as well as golden gate park. so some of these things may shift considering how some of the other districts beyond those have had a big population change. so it's just something to keep in mind as we consider what our

priorities are. next slide. district two, as you know is the marina, russian hills, pack heights. presidio heights. we have a lot of organized groups in this neighborhood. several merchant associations and several community groups and neighborhood associations. so getting on an agenda and showing up and sharing a presentation is relatively easy in these neighborhoods. and, again, just considering at the borders around district two include district one, district three, and district five. next slide. district three includes chinatown, north beach, telegraph hill.

knob hill, financial district and fisher hahn's wharf. when we get down in here, a lot of districts get close together and things can change pretty quickly depending on how our population has changed. chinese americans and filipino americans are a big consideration and there are several cbos and service providers that work with those community groups and are very organized and can certainly share resources and information around this process. there are also merchant associations and neighborhood groups, as well as really highly trafficked community hubs and transit areas. and as i was saying, there is high growth along the borders of d3 between 6 and some of the other districts and as it has been also is the high population density and a high level of diversity.

next slide. district four is primarily sunset and park side. in terms of outreach, cantanese american and russian american serving cbos are we think a good intercept outreach point. there are some neighborhood and working associations, but less than we would have in other districts. there are some major transit corridors that may not be as trafficked right now after covid as much as some of the other districts are, but certainly an opportunity to see what kind of outreach we can do there and how impactful it would be. and there are a number of large schools and churches which could be really good access points. considerations are currently, there are really pretty clean borders around sunset districts and park side.

and fairly established low-cal of groups in the neighborhoods that exist together now. obviously, tbd on how that will be impacted with redistricting, but it is something that's been fairly cohesive for a long time and should be considered when working with the community in this area. and also there's an additional boundary around golden gate park. next slide, please. district five is my district so i'm impartial. and coal valley. and, in this neighborhood, we have a high number of really activated and organized groups who our neighborhood groups and merchant associations. it's quite a long list of the folks you can go through and

talk to fairly engaged community members who know a lot about city processes including this one. they're also really highly used transit corridors and just a lot of opportunities for engagement. some considerations are the sheer number of different neighborhoods and where the populations have changed. it's the lowest deviation of all of the districts and there are some complicated borders. certainly, with district seven, but basically everything district five touches because we're right in the middle and any small impact could effect other districts and other communities. next slide, please.

district six. we all know that this is going to be a biggy. it's the place with the highest terms of deviation. and it incorporates tenderloin, soma, mission bay, dog patch, and feeds into other neighborhoods as well. for outreach pertinence, we'll talk about this more as we get into the next slide, but there are so many places and opportunities and so many people living in the district right now that may be impacted by this. we would like to focus on cbos and service providers, especially filipino americans, arabic americans, southeast asian americans as well as senior centers and providers of essential services and especially in district 6, community benefit districts like the tenderloin cbd which

does a lot of active engagement with that population. so as i said, considerations, there's some pretty traumatic growth. and it's going to have huge implications on how our lines are redrawn and represented. it's well defined with large existing neighborhoods, but there are many neighborhoods that have gotten a lot bigger and we also have high rates of children. so there's a lot of opportunity and i think it's certainly a lot of news. next slide, please. district seven, we have west of twin peaks. west portal. forest hill and mira loma among others. there are a good number of neighborhood and resident groups as well as some merchant

organizations. there are a number of churches and education institutions including sf state and lots of big major and well traffic transit hubs. in terms of considerations, there are some complicated borders and as you can see it's a very interesting shaped district now and it's a pretty massive geographic area and so whatever changes are made will certainly be i assume impactful to this large area serving the population. next slide, please. district eight. similar to district five, it's kind of in the middle of everything. we have castro, noe valley, and glenn park. we know that there are several active and organized neighborhood groups as well as merchant associations. we would want to engage

directly with lgbtq service organizations and are also a lot of major transit hubs in places where we could do intercept outreach that reaches a broad population of people even those who don't live in district eight, but travel through it. and in terms of consideration, there is a complex border with district seven especially as it has been drawn now as well as touching other neighborhoods and districts. and that's five different districts. it's right in the middle of things. so they may have absorbed a lot of change. next slide, please. district nine. the mission district bernal heights and portola. in terms of outreach targets, we want to elevate cbos and surveying latinx and african american residents. in this district, we feel

strongly that elevating those groups is an important way to engage in an equitable and meaningful way. we can also go with the more established groups, but just in terms of consideration, we think this is a good way to as we said meet hard to reach communities and engage them where they are even if they're less likely to be involved in the typical public process. some considerations to think about is that there's been significant development and displacement of community over the last decade which is why we feel that we would like to invest resources and cbos over traditional neighborhood associations and there's also a shared border with the two districts that have the highest deviations of the population which are d6 and d10 and we'll

certainly have some changes in the store and some of that impact. next slide, please. district ten, we have bay view hunter's point. we think it's a really important priority unknown to many people, the largest and

there's a lot of and elevate the importance of public health engagement. so some considerations that they mention. it's the largest geographical district. it's a high deviation at 10%. and it shares a border with district six. so that's going to have some implications. and historically, it's an underserved community that has been impacted by so many socio economic and environmental impacts that i think in terms of equity and investment, district 10 has been underserved for a very long time and i think it's important

for the democratic process in our investment in that community to be more present and to really step up the efforts there. next slide, please. and district 11, we have excelsior, angleside, outer mission, amazon. and in these neighborhoods we can get on a lot of agendas pretty quickly and there are also a lot of cbos, especially those primarily serving latinx, filipino american, and chinese american population. there are a lot of opportunities in district 11 and in terms of consideration, there are a lot of opportunities, but it's a lower deviation rate. so i think spending some time thinking about how district 11

will absorb the districts around it including district 10 and it's important about where we focus our resources and outreach. next slide, please. i will hand it over to lizbet. we've talked about the what, but how we do this and communicate to people is not just the strategy of where we go, but it's what we're bringing to us. i will hand it over to lizbet. >> we are coming to the end of this presentation. we have spent a lot of time about how to conduct outreach and partner with other community organizations in the city. but, of course, we also need to develop really eye-catching support materials to be able to

go out and educate people, make them -- help them understand why this is an important process and so the materials are really important in doing that and we're going to be leveraging city resources. so, you know, we're working on right now doing some branding and developing a logo, something that's easily identifiable that we can put on all of our materials that can go on our social media website that can go on our advertising so that when people see it, they'll know this is the city, this is important and we need to take notice of that. our developing printed materials. we've got phenomenal graphic designers who will be pulling together materials in language as well and making sure they're culturally relevant and easily understood by people who view them. we've got digital flyers and graphics. there's content for the department of elections website

that will really be encompassing all of the messaging that we want to, that we're developing. we have -- we'll be working with our elected officials, we're already connected with all the aids and the board of supervisors. offices to make sure the materials are going out through pre-existing communications tools. so we'll be sending them throughout the newsletters, community newsletters and at civic edge, we have a list of over 800 community-based organizations and neighborhood organizations that will also be communicating with. social media will play a big part of this. you know, the way to reach people under the age of 30 is through social media and we'll make sure we're really relevant and pushing information out to them. we are developing, talking about developing public service announcements in collaboration

with the clerk's office and sftv so that we can make sure that we're out there on the various public access channels. and then, of course, they'll be newspaper ads and community newspapers and we'll be working with the clerk's office and the department of elections on that. next slide please. finally, for our outreach time line. we're ready to hit the ground running now. knowing that from experience and during the holiday season and that's usually from thanksgiving through the end of the year, it's very hard to schedule meetings with community organizations. if there are those that are willing to take them, we'll be there. but if not, we'll be putting things on calendars for the beginning of the new year and really coming out of the gate

strong in 2022. right now, we've got a time line that starts today, november 1st and takes us through april 15th. we'll make sure that our outreach and communications timeline is closely tied to your timeline of public meetings so we can make sure we're always pushing people to attend those meetings whether they're online or in person. so we can really amplify the work that's done by the task force through having people attend those meetings in addition to all of the other outreach that we plan on doing. so with that, we've done a lot of talking. if we can go to the next slide, please. we really would love to start a conversation, start a discussion and answer any questions you might have. thank you very much for letting us present our outreach plan and we really look forward to this being a collaborative

process with the task force to support your efforts and the city's efforts to reach out to all of our diverse communities in san francisco. thank you very much. >> through the chair, members of the committee, members of the task force. angela calvillo. just three sentences i wanted to share with you. there's a couple of other items that we're bringing to this outreach process. as you heard miss sunshine indicate. we have about $50,000 that we're going to be putting into outreach advertising that we will reach out to a lot of the neighborhood newspapers to add some of this content to grab peoples' attention. we will be working on the public service announcement with sfgov tv and the clerk's

office will be paying for that as well. we'll be working with civic edge on the graphing, the scripting, etc., the content that will be shared. we've also spoken to john arntz about a city wide mailer. we also thought we could do that on our own, that would have cost about $250,000. so john arntz is going to look into how we can add redistricting task force content into his mailers. so i don't want to say too much about that because we haven't really gotten any of that detail specific, but he's thinking about that. a couple of other items. a telephone town hall, i think a lot of us have been subject to getting these phone calls for telephone town halls. rosie and lisbet, we've been talking about scoping out the cost and the clerk's office

would also pay for that. in addition to the contract, we're trying to bring some other resources as lisbet said were already in the clerk's budget. and finally, working hand in hand with the department of elections and with our office to they're responsible today for the interpreters that they have for this item and the next item. in my conversations with adrienne pawn, the office of immigrant affairs, she's willing to come and share with you at the next agenda if you would like to hear from what they did on the 2000 census and the 2010 census so you could have a sense of where this task force has been over the last 20 years. i think i'll stop right there. and i'm appreciative that for

lisbet and your team offering up a lot of these services to thefasting force and to the communities of interest and we look forward to the task force's comments. >> if i can jump in as well, real quickly. thank you so much, madam clerk. i did want to mention with telephone town halls, we did look at doing a city wide mailer and it was cost prohibitive, but especially looking at our opportunities and our limited resources, we wanted to share with you an opportunity especially looking to further engagement in language engagement and access. one thing that we've done telephone town halls in the past. they're really great opportunities, especially opportunities that bridge the digital divide that don't necessarily have access to internet regularly or necessarily computer skills and also just communities that

can't necessarily make it to one of these big district events given the time or whatever their life requires of them. and i think a really nice way that we can consider additional engagement in that area is to host modelling in language events and telephone town halls and work with cbos and potentially with the department of elections to work with registered voter data and maybe do a limited mailer to get folks to not come to these district events. to hear the information not interpreted, but given in their language and opportunity to give feedback in their language and it's a different level of participation and you know it's tricky sometimes. city departments and agencies all have slightly different

standards for language access and sometimes it's side by side, sometimes it's, you know, honestly checking off a box. in this sense, we think a really good avenue and opportunity for monolingual engagement is to do a town hall, basically you advertise that you would call in to a certain number on a certain day and it almost sounds luke a radio program. there's a host who opens it up, explains what the program is. you have an option to watch a slide deck online, but you don't need one. you can call in from a land line or flip phone and go through the materials and at any given time, the participants can -- i think it's star three, i don't remember, but actually put out to somebody who's staffing the phone who says what is your

interest, where are you from, what would you like to hear from our presenters and they can give their questions as well as be taken live on the phone. it's a very different experience than folks who are not primarily english speakers and go to meetings and get live interpretation which is important to have that. but as a different level of experience and evelyn also ask you to weigh in on that in terms of what that type of engagement looks like and how that is different than duplicating what we do in english in order to provide access as opposed to really engaging and prioritizing the input and engagement of nonenglish speaking communities. >> yeah. just a quick piggyback off of what rosie mentioned.

we're really excited about this process and we don't want to wait ten more years to get it right. and so when it comes to politics and when it comes to certain type of communication beyond a flyer, i think it's very important that we understand the complexities of our community. just an example, the latino community, it's not a homogenous race. i think there's a level of trust and involvement when we are able to present communication and allow for questions just like we're doing today in that and i think it's a form, it's just a step towards implementing this in all forms. i see that we're going to have many elections coming up and so

perhaps included in that as well and i'll add one more thing as rosie had mentioned, we do want to duplicate ourselves as much as we can and we understand we want to be respectful of what our involvement looks at with communities. and so we do want to lean on the cbos for them in a sense implement have these discussions and more, you know, transparent discussions on how this actually impacts their community. right. i think the task force may have a view on who we want to reach, but each community is going to have different impacts. resources of lists, resources of cities providing and then allow communities to continue organizing themselves as they

already do and we're here again to support and amplify and to use city resources and create new resources as much as we can. >> thank you, evelyn. well, i would love to open it up to all of you and get into it and talk about what those priorities are. if we could, real quickly bring the slide back up just to the page where we had a couple of prompts about things to think about or i can just read them. all right. i'll just read them. just to think about how we frame the discussion. of course, i'm sure all of you have many ideas and we're looking forward to hearing them. just in terms of how we

described limitless opportunities, but also limited resources. the way we'd like to frame this is what values and former outreach of priorities. how does population data impact the way we invest those resources. do we invest them in areas that have the greatest need and are hardest to reach. do we invest them across vicinity groups or communities of color and do we focus on current district boundaries or traditional neighborhood boundaries that we know. and, with this, it's really a conversation about difficult choices. it's about trade-offs and what we would love to hear from you is what your priorities are and get a sense of what is, you know, a need to have and what is a nice to have. we certainly want to do everything, but we certainly don't want to overpromise and

underdeliver and if there's a need to increase the outreach effort, we want to hear that too because we are, you know, resource limited and limited by actual time. we don't have a ton of time in this process and we just want to be, you know, realistic about that and understand what is the most important to you and what you think is the most important to community. and as we said earlier, right now, we are talking about up to 55 engagements that are presentations. they're not hosted meetings. we'll certainly be driving folks to the district meetings and a number of ways to be engaged. but in terms of where we are going to invest our time and resources and engage communities across the board and really try to fill

especially the gaps that maybe the traditional process doesn't reach is the critical information that we want to hear from you so we can do the best work that we can that reflects the values of the task force. >> president: thank you. if that completes the presentation, madam clerk, do we have -- i'm certain we have members in the cue. >> yes we do. first up on the roster is member ho. >> hi. thank you. for one, i'm particularly looking forward to your tool kit and your tool kit in

language. i guess i'll just jump right in to answer that question that you are proposing. you know, i don't see these questions as being or these answers as being mutually exclusive. this is not a binary do we go into hard to reach communities or the ones that have the most growth, in fact, i don't think anybody on the task force would think this is a binary answer. so it's kind of a weird conversation. >> it's definitely not. it's to think about the things that are important to matter and weigh them against each other 'in a way we can come up with the most comprehensive answer and really invested way to do this work. >> sure. in that aspect, maybe the best way for us to think about it is the different parts of the city that have changed and what we

know of the different parts of the city. you can mention common places have better access points and some places with high deviation changes have low access points and i would like for us to remember, we use language differently and places with low access and high deviation rates that is literally the definition of disenfranchisement. and that's what this redistricting panel hopes to resolve is to is eliminate disenfranchisement as much as humanly possible. so i know it may seem difficult to get into these neighborhoods that don't particularly have cbos, but i promise you they exist and i would love to collaborate with you and i think everybody on this task force would love to be apart of that as well. maybe some format, maybe

perhaps we should think about the structure of a format of how we collaborate and do this. i like the way that the department of operations had proposed some of these locations that we do in person and have us weigh in and show us a list and see what's missing and we can go back and forth on that and perhaps we can go back and forth on that in terms of the cbos that you work with. as we know, each neighborhood has different types of challenges and that's something we can work with you on. but, you know, i think that what we would need to see first is some sort of structure from you in terms of where you're going to start. like where do you suspect you'll have the hardest problems with that frame work in mind with hard to reach communities and changing populations. what is a challenge for you since you guys are our outreach consultants to be doing this work. right. you know your skill sets best and what your weaknesses are.

perhaps, you come with us with a strategy or some sort of frame work and then we can move on from there. >> thank you so much for saying that. to be completely honest, i maybe buried the lead a little bit. we do have a structure and an idea of what we do want to do but we are consultants and i think we have a good idea of what works and how we get to where we need to go, but as task force members, you're the one that is should be driving the ship and we want to haylie mccleney make sure that the priorities you have is the plan that we inevitably go out and actually do. we have good ideas and i feel we're very prepared and experienced in doing that. you know, i didn't want to come and say here are the things we're going to do when you're the task force. we want to know what you want

to do and i really appreciate your feedback and i'm happy to say i believe that we are on the same page. >> great. that sounds terrific. then next step -- sorry. i'll let someone else -- other members weigh in. >> next on the roster is member hernandez gil. >> thank you. great presentation. i really appreciate it. a couple of comments that i wanted to make in regards to potential groups to reach out to, i think what i saw missing, you know, broadly speaking in categories. it would be important to include cultural districts there. i saw cbds obviously their big stakeholders, but cultural districts are also going to be very important. consolutes as well.

i think there are some consolutes in san francisco that have good relationships with their respected communities. it would be good to reach out to them sooner rather than later so it can be added either to their newsletter or their agenda, if they have meetings, that sort of thing. labor unions, of course, particularly given these past year and a half, i think many of them have developed a close relationship and are seen as authorities with many communities, so it would be good to include them. lastly, city commissions and advisory commissions, san francisco has plenty of them. it might just be sending out a mass e-mail, but it's a good way to reach those grass tops and make sure that the word is getting out. kind of in the same vein, working with the mayor as office of housing and community development, they are probably the only ones that have a

meaningful relationship with many residents of inclusionary housing. it's important to make sure that that goes out there and is included. and, i definitely am looking forward to the presentation. i completely understand the limited resources. so whatever i can do in terms of whenever i go to community meetings, i'm getting a lot of requests around redistricting. i'd be happy to tackle some of those second or third tier community groups and support the work that's being done. and lastly, it's a suggestion around, you know, this limitless opportunities and limited resources. my tendency is to try to rationalize a bit of this work and we are presented with an opportunity in a sense that now this is happening online. people are now more comfortable doing things online and maybe

not the specific individuals in these communities of interest, but i think some of the folks that are organizing them. so i would urge you to consider creating a form that not only us, but anybody in the community can suggest community groups and even share, for example, how many people they have and they're able to influence or members of what the population size is, what potential communities of interest and use that to kind of rationalize and prioritize groups based on the limited resources that you have. so that's it. >> that's really helpful feedback and information. and if you want to get on the road show, we will put you to work. in terms of the form, we can certainly create something where folks can just add in any

community or contacts that they would like us to engage on some level. when we're actually doing these kind of road show presentations and engagements, i've spoken with carin about how to identify and take in the data about communities of interest and we're really excited because we want to do a forum that is basically what is your community of interest, and then what is the geographic boundary for that. it can be a neighborhood. it can be, you know, a city block. anything that can be basically drawn on a map. so one of the things that we'll be working on in this tool kit is a way to engage communities and really tailor it to specific groups to get the maximum amount of input and participation. so with some groupses, it may be -- we're going to bring a presentation virtually and go through the mapping tool itself and with some groups, it may be we're going to print out a map

and bring some highlighters and some stickers and talk about what communities of interest are as well as identify them on a map to really just get folks thinking about what that means to them organically and then get as much data as we can from them after having done the exercise. so we want to make all of those resources available to any group and any person that wants to use them. >> thank you. that's appreciated. >> okay. next up on the roster is member jeremy lee. >> thank you for that presentation. it was very thorough. i appreciated the breakdown of each district and kind of the political demographic history of each. i think it provided a good

framework. so thank you for that. i had a question on the 45 to 50 groups that you plan to do outreach with. are you going to be providing a draft list of these or is this something that you would prefer this body to provide to you? >> i would say it's a little bit of a conversation. after this meeting, if you would send us the groups that are priorities for you, i imagine we're going to get a much longer list than we can fit into 45 to 55 and having talked through some of these kind of priorities and where we think is a good place to go. what we'd like to do is just kind of narrow it down knowing that not every group we reach out to may respond, but we don't want to, you know, send out a hundred e-mails and requests and get more than we

can actually accommodate. so we're going to put together that list and we're happy to share it back and just put it into more of like a written plan and, you know, if it turns out that there are more groups than we are in the scope to do, then that's a conversation as well, but at least we want to have a starting off point so we can start engaging with folks and get on calendars and make sure we're there. so combination of your feedback and groups that are important to you as well as ours based on values, considerations, conversations we've had, we'll inform the list that we've made and we will share it. >> great. thank you. i ask this question because 45 to 55 groups is a small number. in fact, pretty much that i would like to propose that this body actually dedicate a

specific agenda item and kind of really figure out is this the 55 that we want and is it the most effective. we kind of go into this knowing we cannot, it's just beyond all of our capacity to do this specific outreach to every kind of small little nearby group that's out there. as much as we'd like to, it's just not possible. so i just want to say that and i'd also like to get this kind of list finalized as soon as possible so we can start scheduling an outreach. i'm glad she brought it up we do have several recall elections and special elections on the horizon. and, you know, the fact is that our residents are going to be fatigued, you know, every election season, we all see the big box by our gate is everyone

throws the campaign flyers into. all of our mailboxes are just overflowed with literature. everyone is going to be fatigued and i want us to get ahead of that. so, you know, we're not doing all of these meetings in march where everyone's like i'm done. i don't want to care about politics. soy just want to kind of put that out there. next, i wanted to talk a little bit about the section that you had for engagement goals. this might have been addressed in other bullet points, but i would like to see a specific bullet point for education around this process. i think it's vitally important. to further on that, someone from the league of women voters mentioned the potential of creating education videos in language for communities and i

wanted to ask about capacity to do such a thing. >> that's a great question. we do plan on doing some psas and we can certainly expand that to make them in language. we're still figuring out kind of the logistics and pricing of what that looks like working with sfgov tv. if we do thingses that are graphic with the voice over easy and more affordable if, you know, we're proving madam clerk or any of you to be on camera, that's a different list. so we can work through what that looks like and what's the most appropriate thing we can do or, you know, a minute or five minute long presentation. it's certainly on the table and there are options to do that. in terms of mail fatigue, i

100% agree and every year, i've worked and every year i'm very sad for all the trees. they give their lives to the effort. so we'd certainly like to piggyback on the mailers that go out from the department of elections as opposed to sending anything of our own. we can do a little insert to promote the work that we're doing on this we think that's a relatively easy avenue and it's a 45 to 55 groups. in terms of just expectations, but also urgency. i think i've lived it. it is really hard to engage folks as we're getting towards the end of the year and what i would hate to see is weeks or months of back and forth on who these top share groups are and not being able to reach out to

them until mid december and miss all of that run up time. so perhaps, it can be tier one, here's where we're going now. start there. make it more of a yes situation and if we're able to start the process and get on the calendar and talk to folks if we're able to include more groups later on. like i said, not everybody's going to respond and back fill as we kind of develop this broader list of who we want to be there and how we want to engage them. i just don't want to hinder the outreach effort from the start by spending too much time deliberating over who the most important are because ultimately, we want to get out to as many people as possible. >> and just to add one thing to what rosie mentioned and to

your question about education. i think that's very important and i was just thinking back with the census work. kind of the process of and i think that will resinate perhaps stronger than or it will just add on, right. and i think it would be great to have community leaders and have a quote on the importance and i think it will be just really great. even just promoting ways to get involved and so we really again want to highlight the partnership and we really want to provide the tools to center community and for communities to be the ones speaking on this i think that's the most

important thing we can do here. >> thank you for those comments. i feel very assured knowing that someone with your viewpoint is in this process. i have a few kind of other comments having done chinese language. it is absolutely necessary that you get into newspaper. i just wanted to say that. >> i thought it was on there. >> if you're going to kind of cast a widest reach. >> absolutely. my apologies it may be just my error not including that one. but i can double back and

confirm. >> through the chair to member lee. for the outreach advertising, the official outreach advertising it might be we provided that list as far as the neighborhood nubs that we would be reaching out to, but we are limited to those who applied. that being said, i suppose there's additional outreach that rosie could be talking about. that why it wasn't on that list to begin with. >> thank you, madam clerk. i was aware of issues kind of surrounding that. >> clerk: thank you. >> one of the things we can also do to get which idone on some other projects. if we're not able writing letters to the editor and actual like op-eds that can be

submitted. i think that's a good way to share what the process is as opposed to getting involved. a little graphic. that could be a potential avenue as well. >> thank you for proposing that. let's see. next question. let's see, is it possible for us to see kind of like an allocation of funding for this particular project? like how much are you allocating for specific buckets, like just for example, having worked on several campaigns before. like i've personally found social media advertising just very ineffective. so i just want to make sure that you guys aren't allocating like a large sum of money towards social media advertising just kind of things like that. but would it be possible for you to provide some kind of funding allocation to us? >> we're not doing -- we're not

putting any money into social media. the department of elections is going to handle all the social media. our part in that process is basically writing blurbs and sharing them out with the board of supervisors and asking to posts for us as opposed to doing any type of paid advertising. we can certainly share and i'll defer to you, madam clerk, the budget for the community newspapers. most of what we're doing is going to be city resources. the money will be spent within the city. so i don't think there's going to be a ton of places where we can show large amounts of money are going other than just direct labor, but in term officer certain items, we can potentially share a list if it's something significant. like if we were to do a

telephone town hall or a mailer or being specific of that nature. i think that's something we could share and especially if we don't have a budget for it now and may need one. >> great. thank you. no. i'm just kind of running through my last comments because i'm sure people are tired of hearing me. let's see. i want to say that i support this idea of having a special order where like this particular segment starts at a second time. better for the consultants and interpreters and better for our community so if they can tune in at a specific time and know that the item that's going to be talked about is going to be sitting for the whole meeting instead of waiting for two hours. i really like the idea of language specific town halls and also culturally specific

town halls. also lgbtq-focused. i think that would kind of do a lot to bring out certain people especially from underrepresented communities. you know, if there's an arabic town hall, then we'll get a large group of people from the arabic communicate who have historically been disenfranchised. and then to the point about kind of that slide with the prompts, i would like to focus at the beginning of our resources on district six and district ten because that is where the largest amount of change is going to happen. that's where the largest concentration of disenfranchised communities are. so start with the place with the most change, the hardest to reach and then kind of go down from there and, you know, depending on the decisions that this body makes reaching out to district three and district nine and kind of offer that

would be great too. so that is all of my questions. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. >> clerk: apologies, chair townsend. just to respond to member lee, two things. we would love it when you would like an item that would be time certain on the agenda. we're happy to do that. we don't want to get that wrong. we don't want to miss it. and, two, we will need everyone's assistance and what are those hearings that will be those hearings you would like to have language access to because i've already been asked the question why can't you just have interpreters attend the entirety of the meeting. we'd love to do that, but for the three languages approved in the access ordinance, that's three, chinese, spanish, and filipino. you mentioned arabic, we will need a little bit of guidance when you do want that or, again, if we're going to have,

someone using, you know, a completely different language. so just also let us know when you would like the interpreters to be there because that could be cost prohibitive to have them come to the entirety of the meeting. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker. >> next up on the roster is member cooper. >> thank you so much. and thank you for the presentation. a lot to learn about. i just want to start with echoing the comment that member hernandez gil made. i know there's a lot of those. i think it's possible i think it would be helpful for us as taskforce members and also for the community for there to be one taskforce member at each of these road show events. i think when someone has a

community meeting and they have someone visit and having someone from that body they themselves is listening, i think conveys a lot to the people there. this is obviously no offense to the great work that you'll be doing and i'm sure presentations will be anything that we can do, but i think having somebody there will be important. so we can besides meetings scheduled against our own meetings. i think that should be a priority. and related to that, are do i think and this is really back to something either last meeting or two meetings ago either member pierce brought up about having a communications policy. there are definitely things we should limit ourselves from saying or doing or at least to watch, but i think we also should have a cohesive message that we can use when we're going into our own community meetings or directives or on our own social media about ways

to talk about it and ways that would be effective and driving engagement to this work. so hopefully we could play a role in that. in terms of, you know, what areas to sort of focus on, i think i agree with member jeremy lee about district six and being a fair amount of importance. i do think all districts will probably change at least a little bit. you know, all districts change at least around the edges. obviously, district six will have, you know, a large amount of change as well. so focusing on those. also, i think in terms of resources in a different way, broadly thinking about communities that have a sort of lower level of trust or sort of a history of, you know, not

necessarily relying on government and not having that same level of trust or rapore. you know, there's some communities and some folks who are very eager because they have a sense the government will do something, but there's communities throughout decades, the government has not shown respect to and i think getting that trust back into those communities takes an extra level of effort. so this includes broadly all sorts of underprivileged communities in particular about that kind of the trust there and also involvement in this idea that we would involve everybody because these do effect everybody no matter whether they vote or run for office or anything like that. and i think there's that extra bar that we have to reach there. i also, you know, looking at

some of the previous, looking at the 2012 outreaches, i personal felt that the ads are used that then while being informative, i think we're also a bit suggestive in terms of kind of suggesting what boundaries might change or things like that and that's something i hope we can shy away from using the particular examples may be helpful, but i also think we don't want to plant too many ideas and kind of let -- we really just want to hear about the communities of interest and the sort of communities of connection between various communities of interest and i think that should be the lead of the messaging along with, yeah, the impact of the redistricting task on folks. i guess my last point is just kind of on ways of outreach.

i think i agree with member hernandez gil on labor unions. one interesting one is that i think can be on board announcements on muni. the agency and not speaking for the agency, but muni, during the re-opening of muni with different announcements. i don't know if that's the capability they had ten years ago, we should be able to leverage pretty easily and more generally. sfmta. one of them and ems and social media presence to engage with the community. so making sure that we keep all of the other city agencies involved is important. i think those are all of my points. but thank you so much and i

think looking forward to have this all shapeded out and the collateral for the logos. i think having a very strong visual brand will be very important with this. >> next is member pierce. >> thank you. i had a couple concerns with a couple of your slides and thank you, member ho, for introducing the language. 2 communities that i feel are particularly disenfranchised, i was shocked. they're not on your slides. those are the districts where they are concentrated and they are communities that almost never engage for the reasons

members listed. so native american, urban indians in district nine, i was a little bit shocked they didn't show up on your slides and pacific islanders in district ten. no samoans in our community because they're specifically active in our communities, but not active directly in city hall. and if you guys don't make the effort and you're going to have to make tremendous amounts of effort. in the last redistricting, the pacific islander community was partially divided with the split and if you're not actively engaging them, we're going to see that happen in district ten. so those are my two concerns and along with what everybody else said. i don't want to be repetitive.

thank you guys very much and i do want to make space for member ho to go again because she had some great points. thank you guys. >> thank you. if i could just respond quickly. i actually, we did have a typo in the district 10 slide that did include pacific islanders. i apologize, they were on our list and it didn't make it into the final version of our slide. and we did not include native americans or urban indians into district nine. thank you for sharing that. >> thank you. yeah. thank you very much. >> before we go to the next member on the roster, i just wanted to make an announcement that our interpreters have signed off for the evening. so we no longer have the interpret room. >> chairman: thank you. >> next up is member ho.

>> thank you. all these conversations are really great. i just wanted to ask, you guys mean to start your road show in january. is that right? >> we would like to start reaching out with folks within the next few weeks to at least try to get there. we know from experience that groups may not take us until the new year. if they will, we want to go out now if we can. >> okay. great. in the conversation that you were having with member lee about who to reach out to and who not to reach out to, i'd like to emphasize that especially because we are nearing the holiday season, now is the time to reach out to them. i don't think we have a lot of time to wait and see if they're going to get back to us or not. the first contact needs to be made as soon as possible to get them engaged. i don't want us to run into --

i mean, same as our meetings. we don't have enough of our meetings scheduled. time is not on our side and outreach takes a long time especially when you're connecting with difficult to reach communities and communities who are not used to being involved in public process conversations. so i personally feel a sense of urgency in getting to those communities as soon as possible so that there's no time wasted. and no excuses really. the other perspective i want to bring up, yes, district seven ten and district six have high deviation. district eleven will be

changing drastically because they are bordering a district with high deviation change. so, again, it's not that binary conversation about what should have more priority or another. i would really like for us to emphasize or the way we view the scope of how to approach this more targeted than comprehensive. like, there are some neighborhoods where we know some low access points like you guys mentioned. you've got to think creatively around that and & get to that first. there are some neighborhoods where district two, highly engaged. we know how to reach out to that neighborhood. and so i feel like there's a little bit -- a lot of brainstorming here. but because time is not on our side, i would really like for our next meeting that you guys

come to us with you know, you're asking for feedback but we can't have feedback when there's an open space. so we can be both be most useful to you and that this partnership can be most effective. i think we all want the same thing. right. i just really look forward to having more deep conversations with you. >> chairman: if there's someone else. >> yes. next up on the roster is member chasel lee. >> i thank the presenters for this presentation. it was very informative.

i'm glad that we're trying to get this ball rolling. i have to say though that i was somewhat concerned with certain things that i heard in the presentation. the comment about the district four corridors having less traffic, i do not understand where that came from. i used to live until a few months ago on the west side, went to the sunset all the time. there's a lot of people there. it is still heavily trafficked. i hope the comments are indicative of sort of like a not bias, but like a assumptions that may or may not be founded.

i was also somewhat taken it back by the lack of social media outreach that was an answer to another question. i think it was member jeremy lee's question. you said in your presentation and i agree completely and we all completely agree that we should meet people where they are. i noticed in the presentation it was very cbo heavy and that's fine. but if we're going to meet communities, by definition cbos are sparse in low organized communities, that's the very definition. and so if we concentrate heavily on cbos, we're going to miss a whole lot of people and as member pierce spoke of earlier, did we look at the

slides, we're already missing a whole bunch of people. and so if we concentrate on the cbos, we're going to compound problem on problem. if we're going to meet people where they are, we might have to do some more creative outreach. include social media outreach. i have more experience with chinese-speaking communities than other communities, other members can speak on that. but for chinese speaking communities, particularly in the south, particularly in the west where i live, a lot of people are on social media. and instead of interacting with cbos, a lot of them are on we chat and other platforms. and so if we're just going to do a bare bones approach to that, to those platforms and

concentrate heavily on cbos, you're going to miss and we're going to miss a whole bunch of people and we're just going to end up disenfranchising somebody again. we've already been for decades, the city. but the city has ignored them for decades and as member ho said, it's time to fix those problems. so my question is what are these creative ways that you -- how have you identified like what these communities need, what are these needs that these communities? and what do you still need to help you to assist you in reaching out to those

communities such as southeast asians and chinese speakers in the southeast, filipinos and pacific islanders and native americans in d9 as member pierce has reminded us of? >> did you want to jump in or do you want me to jump in? >> if i can just give a few points of clarification and, evelyn, please expand on them. in terms of district four. i apologize if i misspoke. with all of the districts, we're not necessarily prioritizing cbos as specifically, but in terms of groups that meet regularly and have an audience and are

well-organized, neighborhood groups and merchant associations but it is a good way to get out information and what i was saying is that in district four, there are less of those and in some of those districts where we don't have as many established access points, we want to supplement that with cbo engagement service providers, but also what i still believe but perhaps i misspoke that district four is not as trafficked by public transit buzz my intention was it's a great place as well as complementing whatever outreach we do or churches in order to

try to be where people are even if there are less lists where people can go but as well as many of the districts some of them have access points that are easier to get to and are representative of those communities and many of the districts are not. our intention across all districts and communities is to tailor the outreach that we do and best serve the community that is we are trying to reach. about where those places are and who those groups are and how to access them is what we want to do and what we want to include in our plan. >> thanks for the clarification. i admit that i might of misheard, but when i heard d4,

the comments of d4, you know that you were partial. i think the position gave an impression. >> i see. wells, in terms of d5 to be completely honest very engaged. i think depending on how things play out, we may not be the focus for this type of work. so when i say i'm bias, i love my resources. i think there's a lot of districts that need that. >> i think they might have conveyed. >> i apologize for that. thank you for that feedback. i do also want to touch back on the social media piece that is in our scope to do and our department of elections have

chosen that on to do the tasks. so we certainly can focus on the messaging and the blurbs and what goes on in social media and if there are good access points maybe doing posters or flyers or however is best to engage with social media. we don't have an advertising budget, but we're happy to share information with the groups that we are interacting with, we're just not scoped to do like a large social media campaign in terms of the work that we're doing. >> just to add to that, member lee mentioned about the number of meetings that we're having. there's also certain things in our scope and you would like us to include more and perhaps in your fup discussion and, you

know, at this point, this is -- we're shaping our work around what the task force wants and so in kind of a response to us to be advised, we didn't want to focus right on one specific district or one form of waste. the best thing is we're not going to speak for the community and i think that says a lot. the a.p.i. community unless we and so everybody today has been great. and so if you guys can just continue to give lists, names, that may have not covered, but that doesn't mean we don't want it covered. we wanted to put out the net,

but also don't want the conversation to just be focused on that. so thank you for your feedback and if you have specific organizations, task force members or do you know your specific neighborhoods that are maybe not organized, like we love to do service. we love to go door to door. where here to be on the ground to make sure we're communicating with as many individuals as we can. >> thank you rosie and evelyn for your comments and answers. that did give me an idea. that's probably beyond the scope of this that might work better for this task force. but if your scope of work is social media and your job is outreach that's beyond the scope of this discussion.

maybe it says something for a final report. but, yeah. those are all the comments i have right now. thank you. >> chairman: is there anyone else. >> yes. next up jeremy lee is on the roster again. >> thank you. i'll be very brief. i may have misspoke when i kind of talked about focusing on district six and district ten. i fully agree with member ho's comments and enough taking a targeted approach with reaching out to communities and also, my comments on social media that i had made earlier. i, you know, i fully agree with member chasel lee's comments that we chat is a very heavily used tool by the chinese community and we should utilize to its fullest extent.

my comments were main leotards instagram and facebook ads and how impressions that people see on their feet. they're honestly really ineffective what really gets people to change their mind or gets people engaged in face-to-face interactions. that's kind of what my comments were targeted around. just one quick question. is the work edge constraint by the public health order and meetings. >> chairman: who's the question for? >> for civic edge. >> sure. i'll jump in there we comply with all of san francisco's orders, public health orders

and we all of our outreach is within those orders. so i don't know if that's constrained, but we comply, but we're in compliance. >> i'm just concerned about your ability to kind of hold these outreach meetings with cbos and whatnot given that the public health order may still be in effect. i'm just curious. >> we comply with san francisco public health orders. >> i'm sorry. my team's to the point, we're absolutely in compliance with

them of course. masked and doing everything we can to safety for the mandates and many groups have not gotten back to in-person meetings, but to the ones that have. we do want to be there. >> chairman: next up. >> next up is vice chair reiner. >> thank you so very much. i'll be brief because this has been going on for awhile, but

it's really important and i wanted to echo some of the conversations that we've had and kind of focus some of the comments here. i wanted to thank member ho, member lee, member pierce and i would like to echo the fact that i think because of the time frame being short, because of the fact that we are really out of compliance in some of the areas. we really have to have a creative and targeted way to approach these communities. so perhaps some sort of a brainstorming session on some other ways that we can approach rather than using standard and broad-based approaches would be really helpful and, you know, i'm sure that our members would be willing to help on that, but i would like to encourage you guys to look for other avenues. the immigrant community, we chatted is very specific in the

immigrant community. so there are lots of other areas that we should be approaching. so i don't want to belabor it, but i do think we need to take a look at some other ways to get outreach to those communities. i was not impeding. he understands the nuances and different communities and i completely agree with what he said. i guess also. i want a point of information. i think it was somewhat touched on in the presentation that different communities even

though they are superficially the same. i know member gil has handled it in different ways. different ways of communicating. same goes for the chinese speaking community. the chinese communities in the southeast interact differently from the chinese communities. and i believe that you understand this, but it's doubly important to emphasize this point that we need to accommodate all the hetero genius ways to engage with communities in different areas that's all.

thank you. >> through the chairs, angela calvillo to the members. just remember when you get to the last agenda item. i've offered adrian pawn has come to the tasking force to tell you how she dealt with the census for 2020, 2010, and how she's doing her outreach today. her conversation will be very relevant and that might help move this meeting along a little faster. >> thank you; ms. calvillo because i've heard several comments and suggestions that should have been saveded for that item and i would just give a gentle reminders that we try our best to stick to the item that we're on because that's plenty enough. so if you could just please members try to criminal our

discussion is there anyone else in the cue. >> no, mr. chair. that completes our roster. one glaring omission in your list of publications, you left out the sun reporter newspaper which is the oldest african as well as it also is the onus.

in more than one area. also, i thought another omission is one i heard you all speaking about districts five and ten primarily as well as district eleven. i didn't hear about churches in those communities and in the african american community even today. the church is real important organ for getting information to people. we always say in the community, if you don't go to church, you know someone who does and usually someone in your family and a lot of information is passed that way. i'm hoping that you all will take those as just hopefully helpful suggestions and i hope i can see as we move further more indications of how you

will address the african american community so far. i haven't seen anything that. have been everywhere and in this country for hundreds of years. but we're not the same as the white community. and reaching out to us is not the same and the same things do not work and so i really mean that probably better than it sounds, but i think it's absolutely essential that we not neglect. thank you. madam chair, i think where we are now is -- yes, please. >> would it be all right if i just responded briefly.

>> chairman: go ahead. >> chair townsend, thank you. i couldn't agree with you more. and if we just list out some old categories as opposed to some specific things. in district five, we did reach the filmore as communities we do want to have specific impact in. i'd like the basics with what we do. some reporter. those are all newspapers that we work with on a regular basis. the list provided to us through the clerk's office is different because it's a different contract, but if there's an opportunity for us to engage the other community and neighborhood papers, we absolutely want to and in terms of churches and district five, i agree. i didn't listen on the slide, but in talking about where impact is and where we can

reach out, i, yes, i do know the importance of that and we will certainly include it in the list together. >> also, in district 11, there are major churches like angleside and large african american churches from back in the days when there was african american community and there's still a number of african american homeowners there though not in the numbers there once were. but people are nowadays at african american churches travel from other neighborhoods and frequently like at our church sometimes from outside the city. i don't know why, but they still do. and so i think it's important that you remember that and i just think it will be helpful to the work you're trying to

do. >> thank you. >> chairman: thank you. i believe are we at public comment yet? >> yes, mr. chair. d.t. is checking to see if there are any callers in the cue. if you wish to speak on this item, press star three now to enter the cue to speak. for those on hold, please continue to work. and then you may begin your comments. it appears we have four listening and three in the cue. please put the first caller forward. >> given clerk calvillo's comments, i want to know which meetings the interpreters should be showing up for. i encourage since having them scheduled would greatly solve

the issue it will be easier to figure out when and which interpreters will be needed because especially for physically based meetings. which languages is spoken at each district. it will allow people from the districts to know which one will be covered ahead of time and if their language isn't covered, they can request that and the clerk can update on social media. i think -- also, i think community on social media will see that and they'll encourage them to show up. i think it's just a snow ball effect. so highly encourage it. i know that the california redistricting commission, they had a time line they broke into three phases. phase one, education, phase two, activation. phase three, line drawing.

and, you know with the san diego town redistricting, they were over their time line from january 2021, to their fifth meeting back in january. i think there's great examples from other commissions doing this and i highly encourage this. thank you. >> may we have the next caller, please. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, please proceed. >> caller: great. david pilpel. it's very late. and i think you need to limit the meeting or take a break for 5 or 10 minutes. it's just unfair. i'm losing it. i presume i'm not the only one. in terms of outreach maybe do a monthly or periodic newsletter covering what's been done so it's very clear to the audience what's been accomplished, what is currently going on that you're seeking feedback on and

what is up coming thereafter so that people know sort of past, present, future. i would define the terms very carefully and use visuals for strategy. i would focus on the areas near the current boundaries. so, for example, in district four, where i am, i think the two viable options are to extend into the inner sunset, eat up part of five or cross slope boulevard and extend south into seven. i'm not saying which one i like. they're pro i don't see in the western part of four. there aren't too many options there and it's not like there's a whole thing there. i can give examples in the other districts including i don't think so.

you may want to do that tonight and soon. perhaps we're all losing it. thank you very much for listening. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next caller, please. >> hi, can you hear me my internet seems. >> in the tier one of your outreach list. point in time most of these cultural and many other groups working in their communities such as direct service

organizations and the league has already interacted with several of the cultural districts and they're very eager to get engaged. if you e-mail them. >> we like to see the general public as events continue to get scheduled and have that on the website. to leverage our public notice list better to share information. for living and social media has its pros and cons. but e-mail still works for a lot of people and we're getting

slammed with information in our inboxes. but it's a great way and still an effective way of getting information to people. you can use that to send more than just meeting analysis. you can send the recordings. you can share the tool kits that way people can become advocates within their own communities for redistricting. so i recommend adding that to the brainstorm that this mentioned. thank you. >> i believe that was the last caller. if you could confirm. >> chairman: thank you. public comment is now closed. >> that was the last caller. >> chairman: beg your pardon. >> he was confirming that was the last caller. >> chairman: okay. public comment is now closed. there's no action required on this item. so i'll ask the clerk to file

it. if you remember, members, we did cut five and six, we could not complete action on that item because we had to get to the special order. i have a concern, we must take that item up and take action on it. i have some concern about us trying to figure out our regular and special meeting dates at this late hour. we can take it up or we could call a special meeting within the next ten days that would have one agenda item and that one agenda item only and that is to work out our meeting schedule. but that's your call. so do i hear anyone on that?

any hands up, madam clerk? >> clerk: no one's on the roster. member jeremy lee is on the roster first. >> chairman: please. >> i agree that we should not be making this kind of decision right now especially at this hour. i am very supportive of having a special meeting in between now and our december meeting to kind of knock this out. >> chairman: go ahead. i'm sorry. who's next? >> hi, i'm actually going to move, this is based on what member hernandez gil mentioned to add the third wednesday of the month to our regular meeting schedule.

i know that it is late, but if we add another meeting and it's likely a meeting in november and that will push us off to december. i think in interest of having another full meeting in november, it's a day that works on that calendar. i know there may be some issues with some folks' other calendars. hopefully those can get worked out. >> clerk: if there's a motion, that needs to be that you're interested in making, you first need to take item five off the table because it has been already filed. >> my understanding was that it was tabled and then brought back. >> clerk: no. it has not been brought back. >> so i will move to bring it. >> member jeremy lee. >> clerk: i'm sorry.

what was that? >> member jeremy lee would like to second that. >> if that also happens, we need to re-open public comment. on the motion to re-- to take item number five off the table and to re-open it, [roll call]

there are nine ayes. so item five is now re-opened. >> i will know restate my motion. make every third wednesday of the month a regular meeting in addition to our current first monday of the month. >> clerk: [inaudible] >> i understand the late meeting starts have been onerous. i'll stick with 6:00 p.m. >> chairman: i can't hear you. >> sorry. 6:00 p.m. would be my time. >> i'll second that. this is member hernandez gil.

>> clerk: before we do that, we need to re-open public comment on the item. >> chairman: yes. please. >> clerk: for members of the public who wish to provide public comment on item number five, please call (415) 655-0001. meeting id 24823947617. pound twice. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. do we have any public commentors? it does' appear we have one person in line. will you please put that one person through. >> caller: very briefly david pilpel. what this is doing is only adding four meeting dates. february 16th and march 16th because december would be the -- excuse me. it is adding december 15th. that's five additional meetings starting at 6:00.

you can always tweak that. sounds good. let's do that and more in the future. thank you for moving this. >> clerk: [inaudible] >> there is no public comment. >> clerk: that concludes the public comment. mr. chair. you're muted. >> chairman: someone keeps muting me and i keep unmuting me. so we're having a battle here. madam clerk, could you call the roll on the motion. >> clerk: yes. on the motion to include the third wednesday of the month at 6:00 p.m. for a regular meeting schedules. vice chair, reiner, it's coming from you so i'm muting you so i

can hear. on that motion, [roll call] >> member pierce has a concern. i put my name on the roster for discussion about this. i am going to abstain until i hear the vote of member chasel lee because my recollection is this is prohibitive for this. >> clerk: member pierce, you cannot abstain and we take the vote in the order that it's called so you have to take the

vote. >> nay. >> clerk: [roll call] there are eight ayes and one no with member pierce in the descent. >> chairman: thank you. now, we should move to item six and what do we want to do? >> clerk: we cannot re-open number six. we just opened item number five. so now we're on item number eight. would you like me to call that, mr. chair? >> chairman: yes, i would love for you to call it.

>> member pierce did bring up a conflict. i thank her for thinking about me. to explain my vote. i will sort it out on my end with the conflict i do have, it does exist, but i will make these meetings because i as chair townsend has reminded us, we have an obligation to do the people's work and i will perform the work that i have promised to do but i thank member pierce for looking out for me and i hope that her no-vote is taken in that spirit. >> chairman: thank you. >> absolutely. thank you very much. thank you, member lee. that's what i want to hear. >> chairman: hold on. wait. order. please. member pierce, did you want to

make comment? >> i was thanking and appreciating member chasel lee because that was thanking. >> chairman: i appreciate that. let me just say i have a board meeting every third wednesday of an organization that i chair and for the same -- the reasons that mr. chasel lee just stateded, i would ask him that we will move to another wednesday and if we could not, i will then request a leave of absence until april because i've made a commitment to do this knowing that it would inconvenience my life. now, it's a bit of inconveniencing it a little more than i thought it would with meetings lasting this long, but i'm here until the duration and until the work is done. so could we move on to item eight.

i think we can do that at this point. but before we move, when i had talked about perhaps convening another special meeting in ten days to do our -- to add our extra meetings, what do people think about that or should we save it? i just think december meeting is a long time away to do that. so i would like a little help if that's not out of order, madam clerk. >> clerk: if you're still saying item number five is on the table, you've left it open? >> chairman: item five we finished. so we can file it. >> clerk: action's been taken already. so we should move on to item number eight unless you want to re-open the discussion. >> chairman: well, i would

like to re-open the discussion about six and settle that tonight because we didn't do anything about it. >> clerk: okay. so if you want to re-open the item number six, i'll need a first and a second. >> madam clerk, this is member chasel lee. two things i think i someone is in the queue. sengd is that i move to take item number six up from the table. >> chairman: is there a second? >> i'll second. >> chairman: moved and seconded the. do we need to hear from you, mr. shin? >> yes. i dwant to make a couple of suggestions although one of them may be mute. i was going to say i don't think there's a reason to re-open item number six because if you want to schedule a

future meeting we could do it as part of the next item. the second thing i was going to say as a point of clarification perhaps, is on the last item which i intended to speak about, to effectuate the new meeting date, we will amend the by laws again and so i will interpret that to make it back in a future task force meeting. >> chairman: thank you. appreciate it. now, we have a motion to take item six off the table. do you want to withdraw the motion and we just do it as part of item eight? >> this is member chasel lee. yes. i withdraw my motion. >> clerk: okay. and vice chair, reiner, do you withdraw your second? >> i certainly do. >> clerk: thank you. member pierce is on the roster.

did you have any comments? >> my comment was concerning i wanted a discussion on item five. so that issue is closed. thank you, madam clerk. >> chairman: very good. madam clerk we might then move to item eight. >> clerk: agenda item number eight is general public comment. members of the public who wish to provide general public comment on matters that are within the jurisdiction of the task force but not on today's agenda should call the public comment number. meeting id 24823947617 then press the pound symbol twice to connect to the meeting and press star three to enter the queue to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted

and you may begin your comments. do we have any callers in the queue to speak for general public comment? it does not appear there's anyone on the line. >> chairman: very good. >> clerk: there are no callers. >> chairman: could you call the next item. >> clerk: yes. agenda item nine is future agenda items. we will be taking public comment. members of the public who wish to provide public comment should call the public comment number (415) 655-0001. enter the meeting id 2482394617. when you press star three you will be entering the line to speak. when we call for public comment, the system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand and then you may begin your comments.

mr. chair. >> chairman: thank you so much. members, do you have any suggestions for future agenda items? >> clerk: mr. chair, member pierce has her name on the roster. >> chairman: please, member pierce. >> thank you, chair townsend. i have been saving this and adding items as we were going through. number one, i heard a lot of requests both from fellow members and from the general public that we really need to get on task. so i am interested in possibly having on a future, on the next meeting's agenda discussions around a schedule or a calendar of all of the tasks that we need to hit with feedback from

both consulting organizations and the clerk's office and i would gladly take up the offer made by madam clerk calvillo about sending in people with experience to actually walk us through that and look out for the task that we need, but we can all agree that the calendar's short, so we've really got to get this out there and understand where we are going and actually move towards goals. so, number one that. number two, i would like to see a future agenda item concerning definition of communities of interest and making space for the general public to self-nominate. their own particular communities as communities with

interests. i think that needs to be on this next coming up meeting or in december, but we need to have that really out in the open and immediate since it's such a big concern of all of ours and i would also strongly like to encourage us beginning our monthly community meetings in january and i would love to discuss that in the next meeting. i believe that is all of my agenda items of concern with the hope that one of you guys is going to suggest creating a special hearing meeting to discuss adding even more meetings to the calendar before the end of this month and i will take myself off line.

thank you, guys. >> chairman: thank you. anyone else? >> yes. next up on the roster is member cooper. >> chairman: mr. cooper. >> thank you. i'll be very brief. of the one point is the q2, first of all, the hopefully by the next meeting we'll have the public tool ready. hopefully if they have that ready, we'd love to hear from them on that. it also seemed like it was my interpretation that they may have had intention for more content after we provided our comment. so perhaps they had more to say and bringing them back would be good. i also want to bring up clerk calvillo and talk more about the outreach as well. so those are my thought the.

>> chairman: thank you. who else. >> next on the comment was jeremy lee. >> my comment was what cooper said in 2002 and 2012? thank you. >> chairman: very good. >> clerk: next up, madam clerk, it looks like she may have some comments. >> chairman: yes. >> thank you, madam clerk. through the chair, members of the task force, i think the best person to talk about the scheduling of item that is this task force needs to tackle is someone other than the clerk, that is q2 consultant or andrew schenn who has a line on that. we can bring back to you the meeting schedule itself in its

new, you know, the amended version of the meeting schedule. we can also bring to you ocia. adrienne pawn will be present at the meeting that you're going to set next to provide you that direction on what she encountered for the 2010 and 2020 census. and then we can bring back to you the offsite meetings conversation as discussed. but it's that first item that i -- we can do a lot, but i'm not sure that's our area of expertise, but we'll help out in every way possible. >> clerk: next on the roster is vice chair reiner. >> chairman: vice chair. >> thank you very much. i have a couple of brief items. i think that we talked about a

while back taking a look at the tasks and working back from the task to see how many meetings we had and i'd like to figure out the best way to do that whether that's something we should do to help you or is it something you want to do and present to us. whatever way's the best way to work it. i think we do need to take a look look at the tasks maybe through meetings from the past so we can say we have meetings set up on that. the other thing i would like to mention is i would like to echo david pilpel about starting these meetings earlier. it might be helpful. the last thing i would like to bring up, tonight, finally, we talked about budgets and money and i have wondered how that's being handled and i want to make sure that we're being efficient with the finances because i remember reading in a

past document that or past task force had to go back and ask for more money in order to be able to finish and i'd like to not have to do that. so if madam clerk, if you can tell us which areas for example, there's facilities, staffing, consulting, there's tech, there's materials. if we know some place is really in an area we should be concentrating on, let us know because we want to focus on the right things to do and not spended the budget and we don't know what the budget is. that's my comments. >> chairman: thank you. anyone else. >> clerk: it does appear madam clerk may have some comments. >> thank you.

through the chair and members of the task force. vice chair ditka. we can certainly let you know where the funding is coming from from the various different items we've brought to you over the last four meetings number one. and the most important duties this task force needs to achieve comes from three other as that is handling the data and so i'll do my best to reach out to all three of them to let them know we need a title which walks you through the next meeting of your choice what were the points that they hit and by when. i might be saying too much because i don't want to make it too difficult for those individuals, but, again, we will bring you the modified schedule as you've made it this

evening. >> chairman: thank you. is there anyone else in the cue. >> clerk: no that concludes the roster. >> chairman: good. and i won't, when i was saying let's get something done within the next 10 days. i don't think we need to do that now since we have a meeting on the third wednesday that these items can go on that agenda and then we'll have a next meeting. i just didn't want to wait until the first of next month until the first monday of next month. so if there's nothing else, that commands our attention, the clerk has the items that you've all suggested for our next meeting. is there anything else that commands our attention? if not -- >> clerk: we need to take

public comment on this item. >> chairman: i'm sorry. i'm tired. >> clerk: it looks like we have one person in the queue. d.t. is checking. please let us know if there are any callers who are ready if you wish to speak on this item. please press star three now to line up to speak. can you please put the first caller through. >> caller: hi. this is lauren girardin with the league of women voters of san francisco and we just wanted to offer an agenda item that might sound familiar. we've suggested this before. i believe the last meeting. we suggested that the members might benefit and so would the public for having someone present about how race is handled and defined in the census and the challenges that

that could present during the redistricting process especially as you're thinking about outreach to specific community groups and interest groups that data might come up or it could be someone else who could talk about that. redistricting at lwbsf.org if you would like some recommendations on speakers. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. i believe that was the only caller in the queue. mr. chair. >> chairman: then public comment is now closed. if there is nothing else, i want to just thank ms. somata

for helping us out tonight and filling in for mr. carroll. you do good work and i amex streamly appreciative of your assistance and your patience and willingness to put up with us. thank you so much. >> clerk: it's my pleasure, mr. chair. >> chairman: we hope, not that we don't love mr. carroll, but i hope he's missing again one day. our next item is adjournment if nothing else commands our attention. ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. have a great night. get some rest. if it's not too late for that now. good night.

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>> after my fire in my apartment and losing everything, the red cross gave us a list of agencies

in the city to reach out to and i signed up for the below-market rate program. i got my certificate and started applying and won the housing lottery. [♪♪♪] >> the current lottery program began in 2016. but there have been lot rows that have happened for affordable housing in the city for much longer than that. it was -- there was no standard practice. for non-profit organizations that were providing affordable housing with low in the city, they all did their lotteries on their own. private developers that include in their buildings affordable units, those are the city we've been monitoring for some time since 1992.

we did it with something like this. where people were given circus tickets. we game into 291st century in 2016 and started doing electronic lotteries. at the same time, we started electronic applications systems. called dalia. the lottery is completely free. you can apply two ways. you can submit a paper application, which you can download from the listing itself. if you apply online, it will take five minutes. you can make it easier creating an account. to get to dalia, you log on to housing.sfgov.org. >> i have lived in san francisco for almost 42 years. i was born here in the hayes valley. >> i applied for the san francisco affordable housing

lottery three times. >> since 2016, we've had about 265 electronic lotteries and almost 2,000 people have got their home through the lottery system. if you go into the listing, you can actually just press lottery results and you put in your lottery number and it will tell you exactly how you ranked. >> for some people, signing up for it was going to be a challenge. there is a digital divide here and especially when you are trying to help low and very low income people. so we began providing digital assistance for folks to go in and get help. >> along with the income and the residency requirements, we also required someone who is trying to buy the home to be a first time home buyer and there's also

an educational component that consists of an orientation that they need to attend, a first-time home buyer workshop and a one-on-one counseling session with the housing councilor. >> sometimes we have to go through 10 applicants before they shouldn't be discouraged if they have a low lottery number. they still might get a value for an available, affordable housing unit. >> we have a variety of lottery programs. the four that you will most often see are what we call c.o.p., the certificate of preference program, the dthp which is the displaced penance housing preference program. the neighborhood resident housing program and the live worth preference. >> i moved in my new home february 25th and 2019. the neighborhood preference program really helped me achieve

that goal and that dream was with eventually wind up staying in san francisco. >> the next steps, after finding out how well you did in the lottery and especially if you ranked really well you will be contacted by the leasing agent. you have to submit those document and income and asset qualify and you have to pass the credit and rental screening and the background and when you qualify for the unit, you can chose the unit and hopefully sign that lease. all city sponsored affordable housing comes through the system and has an electronic lottery. every week there's a listing on dalia. something that people can apply for. >> it's a bit hard to predict how long it will take for someone to be able to move into a unit. let's say the lottery has happened. several factors go into that and

mainly how many units are in the project, right. and how well you ranked and what preference bucket you were in. >> this particular building was brand new and really this is the one that i wanted out of everything i applied for. in my mind, i was like how am i going to win this? i did and when you get that notice that you won, it's like at first, it's surreal and you don't believe it and it sinks in, yeah, it happened. >> some of our buildings are pretty spectacular. they have key less entry now. they have a court yard where they play movies during the weekends, they have another master kitchen and space where people can throw parties. >> mayor breed has a plan for over 10,000 new units between now and 2025. we will start construction on

about 2,000 new units just in 2020. >> we also have a very big portfolio like over 25,000 units across the city. and life happens to people. people move. so we have a very large number of rerentals and resales of units every year. >> best thing about working for the affordable housing program is that we know that we're making a difference and we actually see that difference on a day-to-day basis. >> being back in the neighborhood i grew up in, it's a wonderful experience. >> it's a long process to get through. well worth it when you get to the other side. i could not be happier. [♪♪♪] better.

san francisco department of environment is a place where climate hits the street. we know that we don't have all the answers. we need to support our local champions, our local community to find creative solutions and innovations that help us get to zero waste. >> zero waste is sending nothing to landfill or incineration, using reuse and recovery and prevention as ways to achieve zero waste. the grant program is a grant program specifically for nonprofits in san francisco to divert material from landfill. it's important to find the san francisco produce market because there's a lot of edible food

that can be diverted and they need positions to capture that food and focus on food recovery. >> san francisco produce market is a resource that connects farmers and their produce with businesses in the bay area. i think it's a basic human right to have access to healthy foods, and all of this food here is available. it's a matter of creating the infrastructure, creating jobs, and the system whereby none of this goes to waste. since the beginning of our program in july 2016 to date, we've donated over 1 million pounds of produce to our community partners, and that's resulted in over 900,000 meals to people in our community, which we're very proud of.

>> carolyn at the san francisco produce market texts with old produce that's available. the produce is always excellent. we get things like broccoli, brussels sprouts, bell peppers. everything that we use is nice and fresh, so when our clients get it, they really enjoy it, and it's important to me to feel good about what i do, and working in programs such as this really provides that for me. it's helping people. that's what it's really about, and i really enjoy that. >> the work at the produce market for me representing the intersection between environment and community, and when we are working at that intersection, when we are using our resources and our passion and our energy to heal the planet and feed the

a principal analyst recently appointed as acting administrator responsible for developing all of the rates and charges for the water, power services we provide. >> the main things i work on are rates. it is really trying to figure out how much money we need to fund our operations and maintenance and thinking how to collect the money in a way that is fair to customers and sincentives for water conservation or installing

stormwater management on their property. >> i nominated erin for the many accomplishments she has provided especially for the financial sustain ability. the reality required a lot of work retooling policies, financial planning as well as many rating and charges. er ron served in the projects including update to water and sewer rates, update to 10 year financial plan as well as setting the budget for fiscal 2019 higher 2020. >> i am pleased with working here. i feel like we have tons of work to do. it is important work. it has a direct impact on people's lives. >> she has a unique ability to get to the root cause of the issue and help develop consensus around a solution. not only is it troubleshooting what the questions are, but also

coming up with what are the alternatives. >> i think a lot of the satisfaction from the job is looking back over the past few years and seeing cereal concrete change we have been -- real concrete change and that gives me pride. >> the team very much appreciates her hair color and the world of finance and accounting tends to foster conformity and boring guys like myself. i very much admire the fact that she walks her own walk and creates her own path, and i think we all can learn a little bit from her. >> i and a principal revenue and rates analyst in the financial planni

>> when i open up the paper every day, i'm just amazed at how many different environmental issues keep popping up. when i think about what planet i want to leave for my children and other generations, i think about what kind of contribution i can make on a personal level to the environment. >> it was really easy to sign up for the program. i just went online to cleanpowersf.org, i signed up and then started getting pieces in the mail letting me know i was going switch over and poof it happened. now when i want to pay my bill, i go to pg&e and i don't see any difference in paying now. if you're a family on the budget, if you sign up for the regular green program, it's not going to change your bill at all. you can sign up online or call.

you'll have the peace of mind knowing you're doing your part in your household to help the environment. >> good afternoon a1 regular meeting of the board of supervisors. would you please call the roll. >> (