. >> chairman: good morning. and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, november 8th, 2021. i am the chair of the committee joined by supervisor mandelman and supervisor chan. our clerk is mr. victor young. mr. young, do you have any

announcements? >> clerk: yes. members participating in the meeting. public access at city service is essential and invites public participation in the following ways. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda either channel 26, 78, 99 and sfgovtv.org. each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak. comments are opportunities to speak during public comment period by calling 4156550001. the meeting id is 2489202227 then press pound and pound again. you will be muted and in listening mode only. when your item of interest comes up, dial star three to be added to the speaker line. and turn down your television

or radio. alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways. e-mailing myself, the rules committee clerk. if you submit public comment by e-mail, it will be forwarded to the supervisors and included in the file. written comments will be sent to us by a u.s. postal service, can be sent to us by a u.s. postal service that completes my initial comments. >> chairman: thank you, mr. clerk. can you please read item number one. >> clerk: yes. item number one. private entities to provide supplemental law enforcement services. there is a committee report. >> chairman: thank you,

colleagues, we to this item last week. supervisor safai, the floor is yours. >> supervisor safai: thank you, chair peskin, i appreciate the opportunity to just say a few last words. i just want to emphasize to the public and also for the record, the main driving force behind this legislation has been the uptick in retail theft that we've seen in our city. this type of brazen theft has impacted the well being of our front line workers that work in a lot of these stores. it's impacted the well-being and the psychology of shoppers and people that frequent these stores, often neighborhood

stores both small and big and it's impacted the perception of san francisco. so, for me, we wanted to put together a working group and i've called that working group out last week. it's co-chaired by police chief bill scott, but i want to make sure to thank all the members that participated and support this legislation. sheriff mianmotto police chief scott. san francisco chamber of commerce. the san francisco counsel of district merchants. many of our community benefits districts, particularly the union square, cbd as well as fisherman's wharf, the naacp, union local 5 as well as local 648. so i want to thank all of them for the in'put and the work

that they've done to keep moving this conversation forward and also the deputy sheriff's association for giving us feedback along with sheriff miamoto and police chief scott. we might expand the scope seeing what we have in other areas of the city. i know. this is something that i think we need to really get our arms around and i'm hopeful that this legislation today will be a deterrent and a suppressant and also something we can work with our district attorney on to get a level of treatment rehabilitation. this is not about going back to the days of overincarceration.

this is about being present and being able to see the individuals and look at what the appropriate types of rehabilitation are. so, thank you, chair, thank you committee members. thank you supervisor mandelman and your cosponsors and thank you supervisor chan for the amendments last week and many other supervisors have expressed their support for this legislation as well. so thank you, mr. chair. >> chairman: thank you. any comments from committee members. if not, why don't we go to public comment. >> clerk: yes. mr. chair, operations is checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. if you have not already done so, please dial star three to be added to the queue. for those on hold, please continue to wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. we currently have seven callers and two people in line to speak. >> chairman: first speaker,

please. can we have the first caller, please. okay. the caller is silent. we can move on to the next caller. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> clerk: yes, you may proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. first of all on page 1 line 22, i believe in the middle there that should read in double underline 10a.5 not 10.5. i reviewed the amendments from last week and i'm concerned

that the definition of a requester refers individuals and entities, so i'm wondering if that can be reasonably interpreted that i or anyone else can serve as sheriff's deputies as private security. that seems not like the intended concept if it's a business or entity with the intent to deter retail theft, then i think a requester should be limited to an entity and not an individual or maybe only an individual on behalf of some entity. i'm also concerned that the definition refers to occasional events -- how is that written? special events or occurrences that happened on occasional basis. so i'm not sure. there appear to be no findings in the legislation to explain

the basis for the legislation including the discussion about retail theft which i think is important and would be important to include here. i hope my other comments from last week that i won't go into unless you need to hear again, i hope that those comments are still addressed. i support the concept, but i believe this legislation still needs a little more work. those are my thoughts at this time, thanks for listening. >> clerk: thank you. can we have the next caller, please. >> you have reached the maximum time for recording your message. if you're satisfied -- >> clerk: so i believe that caller. can we have the next caller.

>> clerk: another silent caller. can you confirm if we have anybody else on the line, mr. atkins. >> mr. clerk, the other callers on the line are silent. >> clerk: okay. chair peskin, the other callers -- >> chairman: public comment is closed. supervisor safai, i believe the caller did make at least one good point which is that the capital letter a on page 1 at line 22. it should read 10a.5. i'm happy to make that

amendment. do you have any final comments? if not, i will have -- >> supervisor safai: there is one last thing i did want to emphasize as well. much of this also was driven by retailers and were not able to hire officers currently under the 10b program. not enough officers were responding or available. and so this also has to do with demand and the supply not meeting demand. so we're trying to increase the pool to make more law enforcement available for the demand that's out there for that presence. just wanted to say that as a final comment. but, agains, thank you to the committee and thank you for the work that you've done with us. appreciate it. >> chairman: all right. thank you.

so, with that, i will make a motion to amend as previously stated on that motion. mr. young, a roll call please. >> clerk: on the motion to amend, [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: and then i'll make a motion to send the item -- >> chair peskin? i'm sorry to interrupt. may i be heard. >> chairman: yes. deputy city attorney peerson, the floor is yours. >> he did thought have a log-in for this meeting though he has asked for it. in light of his request to weigh in, i suggest that the committee takes pause on taking

action on the final action to send this to the full board until you've heard from him. >> chairman: supervisor safai, you are on commute. >> supervisor safai: i just got a medication from director eisen. he's trying to get on to be able to speak -- to be able to give d.h.r.'s position. >> chairman: why don't we wait a minute until you get that individual onto this call. >> clerk: yes. give me a moment.

okay. the invitation has just been

sent. >> chairman: mr. graham, good morning. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> just briefly, we had an opportunity to receive the legislation on wednesday. we forwarded that legislation to the affected unions and the p.o.a. asked to meet and confer. we're evaluating their request to do so. >> chairman: the p.o.a. is not a union. they're a bargaining unit. >> the bargaining unit of p.o.a. asked to meet and confer and we're considering their request and we're evaluating it. >> chairman: okay. so obviously if this panel recommends it, the full board can vote on it as a funl

support. >> to meet and understand what their comments and concerns may be about the existing isolation and recommendation. >> supervisor safai: my vote would be to proceed out of committee. we'll give the d.h.r. the opportunity to review and make a final determination. but until that point, i think we should just proceed and move toward the full board. >> chairman: all right. mr. clerk on the vote of supervisor safai. >> supervisor mandelman: mandelman. would it make sense not to forward it as a committee report so d.h.r. has one day to

look at this. >> remember, there's two votes respectfully. >> chairman: in so far as there's two readings of the board. is that what you're saying supervisor safai? >> there technically three votes. >> as you know, it sounds like they have not made their final determination. so our advice would be to forward this to the committee to pull things to committee and wait to the full board until we confer it is fully resolveded. we could instruct you at the full board not to vote on it until we've had confirmation. >> chairman: mr. graham. >> yes. i'm sorry. i disconnected.

>> chairman: okay. good to have you back. has the poa in writing asserted a request to meet and confer. >> they have not done so. i don't have a written request for them to be confirmed. >> chairman: all right. so on the vote. >> clerk: yes. on that motion. [roll call] the motion passes without objection to recommend the matter as a committee report as amended. >> chairman: next item, please. >> clerk: next on the agenda is item number two, motion approving objecting the mayor's

nomination for the appointment to the police commission for a term ending april 30th, 2022. >> chairman: thank yous, mr. young. mr. carter overstone, good morning. >> good mornings, chair peskin. >> chairman: and, colleagues, i had the opportunity to meet with mr. carter overstone, the week before last or was it last week? i can't remember which i appreciated do you want to regale the committee with your interest in serving on the xhis commission. the floor is yours. >> chair peskin, supervisor

chan and supervisor mandelman, thank you for the opportunity to testify today before the rules committee and for the chance to address the committee with a brief opening statement. the cause of police reform captureded the nation's attention in the wake of george floyd's murder, but the public's attention as we've all come to know is finite. many have suggested that the public's interest in reform is already waiting. while others are more hopeful that it will sustain, but either way, i don't think we can afford to wait and see. we have an obligation to act now while the national focus on reform might still survive the necessary momentum to propel us forward. we also owe it to the citizens of our cities, my native city to enact policies that reflect our shared values and that will

keep both residents and officers safe. these are precisely the types of policies i've been working on for the better part of the last year. the policing project is a nonprofit promoting accountability and policing. over the past year, i've led a number of the projects. i was the principal author of model legislation curtailing the use of traffic stops and co-wrote our model law on

decertification. and before that in a private sector at the california department of justice where i was an associate deputy solicitor general. i have litigated dozens of appeals implicating a wide range of legal doctorings, environmental law, constitutional law and many others. which we litigating the night in the supreme court. and it changed the federal legislation that weakened the affordable care act conception. and i also challenged california's laws regarding child abuse.

one of the most solemn obligations in the attorney's list of the general's office is to represent the people of california and defend appeals from criminal conviction. some of these cases involve very serious crimes for which the defendant is serving a long sentence. even though we were charged with defending conviction secured by the prosecution, our job was not to win at all cost. rather, our responsibility was to ensure that justice was served. in certain cases, that might mean forthrightly alerting the court that a conviction should be reversed because a defendant's constitutional rights were violated. to remind myself of this important obligation, i printed out a single page from a 1935 supreme court decision that describes the role of the federal prosecutor. i take this page above my desk and highlighted the following passage.

the united states attorney is the representative not of an ordinary party to a controversy but of a sovereignty and whose interest therefore and a criminal prosecution is not that it shall win a case, but that justice shall be done. you may prosecute with earnestness and vigor. he is not at liberty to strike. it is as much his duty to fran from any proper method as it is to use every legitimate means to bring about a just one. if confirmed, i pledge to supply. i promise to pursue the cause of reform and vigor, but also with discernment to implement policy changes swiftly and aggressively, but also to ensure any policy we pursue

gives clear guidance that can be followed by officers in the field reflects recognized best practices and is grounded in evidence. i pledge to sit impartially as an adjudicator and i pledge to both educate the public about the commission's work and to listen to the concerns and ideas expressed by communities. finally, police reform is personal to me. there is scarcely a black man in america these not felt the unchecked force of police power and i'm no exception. i recall for example being pulled over while in the passenger seat of my friend's car for going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit. my friend, the driver is also black. the officer instructed me to get out of the car and with one hand white knuckle gripping his gun began to pat me down. what's that? he barked as his hand pressed

through my shorts and against my cellphone. before it was all over, there were four squad cars at the scene including a canine unit which did a drug sniff of the car. the officer lets go with a mere ticket but he was sure to remind us multiple times it was fully within his authority to take us boys as he called us to jail if he wanted to. it should go without saying that i'm incredibly lucky. this experience like other encounters i've had with police could of had a much more tragic ending. even these relatively minor occurrences are still unworthy of a nation founded by people who risk everything to rid themselves of arbitrary government intrusion into their lives. it confirms i hope to make a small contribution to the project of reimagine how police can play a productive role in

our democracy. thank you, i look forward to answering the committee's questions. >> chairman: thank you, counselor carter overstone and thank you for taking the time to visit with me the week before last. i want to thank the mayor for finding you supervisors. i also note that you happen to be a district three constituent. which certainly doesn't hurt with that. i'll turn it over to my colleagues supervisor mandelman and supervisor chan if they have any comments. supervisor mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you, chair peskin. and i want to also thank mr. carter overstone for taking time to talk to me this

weekend. i had heard good things about him from my constituent julie tron and i am confident that he will be an i think it's important that i do believe for the police commissioners of san francisco right now, there are multiple charges and one is to pursue reform and ensure we are doing what the department of justice is indicating we should and then going further to do the next steps. but also to make sure that our police department is effectively serving all the neighborhoods in san francisco and all the folks in san francisco and whether it is preventing and solving gun violence or property crime or

any of the other issues that are impacting the community. i'm actually somebody who does believe in reform and i do believe we do need police officers and we need them to do their job excellently. so i think part of the job of the commissioners is to ensure that they're doing that. and get the resources they need to do that and hold them accountable. so i trust that mr. oberstone will do that. >> chairman: supervisor chan, any comments or questions? >> supervisor chan: thank you, chair peskin. i appreciate the time spent and having the conversation and i look forward to supporting this nomination. i think it is good to have. you know, we appointed both mr. larry e. and mr. jim byrnes

to the police commission recently and those are the great two appointments who have been community advocates for a long time in san francisco, but it is also good to see the next generation of leaders to come and join the commission to provide a different perspective. so i look forward to supporting this nomination. thank you. >> chairman: thank you, supervisor chan. mr. clerk, why don't we go to public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call (415) 655-0001. the meeting id is 24892024267 and then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so, please dial star three to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment.

we currently have four people in line to speak on this matter. >> chairman: first speaker, please. >> caller: hello. my name is jason crocket. i'm calling in to speak in support of and on behalf of max carter-oberstone's appointment. i've known max for 18 years and it should be noted that i spent the last four and a half years working in city government for the mayor in the city of los angeles and so i understand intimately the role of commissioners and the important role they play in oversight. in the 18 years that i've known max, there are a number of qualities that i would say have struck out that have made him unique in my mind, but something that i think he excels at is preparation and anticipation. in everything he's ever done,

he comes prepared and ready to work very hard, but you can say that about a lot of people and a lot of different disciplines. i think what he brings uniquely to everything he touches is anticipation. he thinks two, three, four steps ahead and understands how he will react. he is very conscious of the needs of others, the goals of others, and the positions that others are taking. and is able to think and i had a chance to visit san francisco during college with max. he invited me to join him during spring break and one of the things that i remember so fondly is how much he loves his city. never have i seen someone speak

so passionately about the city they were born in and raised in as he has. so i think that this role of service is a natural fit. he will bring his eagerness to serve. his eye and passion for justice as well as a life long habit of preparation and anticipation to this role. he will come ready to make change and to fulfill his obligation and his duty to the city. and i'm excited for him to take this on. >> clerk: that's your time. thank you. >> chairman: thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> caller: yes. good morning. thank you for your tomb. my name is erin lyota. i'm an attorney based in berkeley and i've known mr. oberstone since we worked

together in san francisco. he's a person with a lot of integrity. max isn't afraid to speak up when he sees something that isn't right and he doesn't go along with the status quo. now, i don't want to imply that this makes max difficult to work with because it's quite the opposite. max is a delight to work with. i've learned so much from him about how to be a better lawyer and a better person. max grew up in san francisco and he is deeply committed to the city and to making it a better place for future generations. san francisco would be very lucky to have him on his police commission. i hope you all approve his nomination. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello. i am calling in today in

support of max carter-oberstone's nomination. i've known him for over seven years from the time we first clerked together in district court. i want to tell you what it's like to work with max as a colleague. you've heard many achievements and the accolades that come with his academic and professional background, but what you may not know yet is what a joy he is to share an office or a project with. he is incredibly thoughtful and account as a colleague. he will go above and beyond to ensure the success of the team and he is the kind of person that you want to go and talk through difficult issues with. he keeps an open mind. he is strategic in his thinking and he will always ask questions and push you to be more thoughtful and more precise in your own reasoning. for all of these reasons, including everything that the other people in public comment

have said today, i am so enthusiastic to highly recommend him for this post and i'm excited for an opportunity for max. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. are there any other speakers? next speaker, please. >> clerk: i believe we do have one more caller. >> yes. good morning. my name is michael mongan. i currently serve as the solicitor general of california. in my individual capacity and not on behalf of the attorney general or the department of justice. i had the great privilege to work closely with max for two years in the office of solicitor general. i had a chance to observe him in close corridors as a colleague, working with him on some of the state's most pressing projects including defending the daca policy and

reproductive freedoms. and i can't think of anybody who would be better suited for this position as max. he's one of the hardest working attorneys i've met. he cares deeply about fairness and justice and the rule of law. san francisco is where he grew up and i know that he loves the city and all of its communities and he's a kind and decent and generous person who works well with others. i can honestly say i've never had a better colleague than max carter-oberstone and san francisco would be lucky to have him as a member of the complicit commission. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. are there any members of the public who would like to testify on this item number two. >> clerk: and that was the last public commenter. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed. and the one and i think most important in addition is qualifications question that i

ask mr. carter-oberstone was his ability to put significant time into this time consuming position and he answered that he understood that and would carve necessary time out of his otherwise busy schedule. so thank you for that and thank you for your willingness to serve and, colleagues, if there are no further comments, i would like to make a motion to amend the subject resolution at line three by deleting the word rejecting and at line 14 by deleting the word reject. on that motion, a role call, please. >> clerk: on the motion to amend, [roll call]

>> chairman: and then i would like to make a motion to send the item to the full board. on that motion. a roll call please. >> clerk: on that motion, [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> chairman: thank you, and mr. carter-oberstone, i wanted to get this on tomorrow's agenda, so you will be a member of the police commission in about a week. thank you. next item, please. >> clerk: would you like me to read items three through five together? >> chairman: sure. >> clerk: yes. item number 3.

item number 4 is for the appointment of julie soo to the sheriff's department and item number five is a motion approving rejecting the mayor's nomination of dion-jay brookter to the sheriff's department oversight board term ending march 1, 2025. >> chairman: all right. colleagues, this obviously was a result of the measure that was championed by the board of supervisors president walton who can unfortunately not join us today, but we have the mayor's nominees before us today in the form of mr. gonzalez, ms. soo, and mr. brookter who we will hear from momentarily. are there any opening comments from committee members? if not, why don't we start with

a statement from mr. gonzalez and in conjunction with board president walton, i have a number of questions that i will ask identically or similarly to all three of the candidates. mr. gonzalez, good morning. >> good morning, supervisor peskin, good morning supervisors. thanks for hearing my responsibilities to the fire department and also i feel would be asked to the sheriff's department oversight review board. i retired may 2019 after 29 and a half years. 10 and a half years were in an admin position, positions. i was the deputy chief of operations to the second in command, general orders policies and procedures, memo randoms. i've reviewed most all of those before the chief's signature.

i oversaw hundreds of disciplinary recommendations, made recommendations to the chief. also attended disciplinary hearings before the fire commission. represented the department in the m.l.u. negotiations. i attended monthly meetings. some of the responsibilities or my direct reports were the airport. the fire marshal, fire preventions, fire investigation. i worked on many projects with the d.m., department of emergency management. action plans and also workeded hand in hand with personnel

office fire suppression scheduling. also, i took pride in creating programs and sustained objectives. i look forward if allowed the privilege to serve on this board and available for any questions. >> chairman: thank you, mr. gonzalez. let me start with some of the questions on behalf of president walton. normally, mr. gonzalez, we ask people if they've attended meetings of this body, in so far as this body has not

existed. we can't ask you that question, but have you been involved with any of the issues surrounding sheriffs or public law enforcement reform? >> no i have not. >> chairman: any experience in advocating for somebody in custody? >> not in a formal process, no. >> chairman: any involvement around the city wide conversation with regard to jail closures particularly at the hall of justice? >> no. >> chairman: you may have some experience with this. in 2018, the board passed the transparency and oversight to craft policies about their use of surveillance technologies and mitigate potential harms

and risks to civil liberties and because the sheriff while the sheriff has submitted written certification that is it exempt from this policy and doesn't need to craft policies to ensure the safe use of complex surveillance technologies. would you support a shift in that policy to require the sheriff to submit to this oversight to ensure the safe uses surveillance technology. >> i think surveillance can be a positive for both sides on that issue. i mean, it's for the victim and for the sheriff as well. so i would be in favor of that. yes. >> chairman: okay. are there any questions from committee members? seeing none. is there any public comment on this item?

mr. clerk. >> supervisor chan: chair peskin, we're calling all three items together, right? >> chairman: yes. good point, supervisor chan. we will hold public comment until we hear from all three, so why don't we go on to the next nominee. ms. soo, good morning. mr. clerk, is ms. soo with us? >> clerk: i'm checking right now. i will check on her if you want

to move on. >> chairman: good morning. d.j. >> good morning chair peskin and vice chair mandelman. the last chance i got to see and everything that he's doing. but i also want to say, thank you to the mayor for having faith in my leadership and time on the police commission: i've been in the city and county for the last eleven years.

i have been a public servant. i am the executive director of young community developers which is one of the leading workforce developments in district 10. i've been apart of that organization for over ten years where we've grown from nine folks and during that time was also able to really focus on violence prevention in the work that we do around community engagement in the southeast part of san francisco. i have serveded on the mayor's workforce development board. i have workeded on the controller's bond oversight committee and most recently one of our san francisco police commissioners where i want to say thank you to my colleagues.

our vice president cindy elias and we've been able to push forward a lot of reform, a lot of department general orders, a lot of department bulletins during my 10 year on the police commission. i also want to share that as an organization, we've had an opportunity to work a lot with our sheriff's department. during my time at young community development, we've had a document series alongside the sheriff's department and the police department known as the chop shop where we work and set down with the police department and barbershops throughout the city and county of san francisco and had dialog about what law enforcement and policing looks like in our communities. we have been apart of the sheriff's department's garden project where we worked with young adults in community and actually took them to some of our sheriff's department sites, most notably the farm where we

showed them how to do urban farming and we looked at ways in which they can be stewards in their community through our work with the sheriff's department. we now as an organization also have a very robust department in our organization where we're working with folks who have been justice involved. we have a great to chair peskin's question. we as an organization have set on the committee that looked at the closer of the juvenile justice halls that we have and we are in full support of closing down those facilities. i've spent time at 850 bryant. i've spent time in our jails and prison systems. before coming to san francisco, i worked for an organization which was apart of a re-entry initiative where i spent time up and down the state of

california not only in our jails, but inside our prison system sitting down in jails with men and women who have been justice involved and helping them reenter back. with that, i just want to say, thank you again for an opportunity to be here. another opportunity to serve the city and county of san francisco. as we know, this body doesn't currently exist and that's one of the things that has me most excited about it is being able to put in those hard earned hours to really see this body being what some of our other commissions and bodies are here in the city and county of san francisco and also understanding of the police commission that, again, it's in good hands. it was great to see max carter-oberstone and my colleagues who are there. i hope to be confirmed, chair

peskin. >> chairman: thank you, commissioner brookter, and you toucheded on most of the questions that i asked the previous nominee. but specifically, would you support a shift in the is a great way to be able to tell a full story. may not remember or may get to see things that might of occurred. that may have slipped the individuals' minds. >> chairman: any questions from colleagues?

all right. thank you, d.j. and why don't we move on to ms. soo. is she available now? >> clerk: she should be. i just contacted her. she briefly appeared on our video. >> chairman: yeah. i saw her. maybe she's not hearing us. give me a moment. there we are. ms. soo, good morning. >> yes. i'm on my phone as well as on my laptop and the connection's a little off i think.

>> supervisor mandelman: uh, oh. >> i can't hear the video. >> clerk: we can hear you okay, but we can go with just audio if that's okay. >> chairman: that's fine. ms. soo, why don't you tell us why you want to be on the sheriff's oversight board and give us some background and then i will ask you the same questions that the previous two speaker nominees spoke to. >> okay. well, thank you. i welcome this opportunity again to serve the city in a public capacity.

i've been a public attorney for over two -- >> clerk: can you turn down the volume on your. >> chairman: julie, can you turn down the volume -- ms. soo, we can't really hear -- >> in place and taking public testimony to make sure that we are -- >> chairman: ms. soo. julie sue, can you hear me? >> are we having audio issues again? >> chairman: yes. we are definitely having audio issues for sure. we're having visual issues and audio issues. the clerk suggested that you turn the volume on your computer down. can you do that? >> are we still having audio issues or can you hear me now? >> chairman: you obviously

can't hear me. let's do this. at the beginning, you were crystal clear visually and i could hear you. now we cannot hear you and we cannot see you. what i'm going to suggest, colleagues is that we continue these three to next monday and send them as committee reports, whatever this body decides and they will get to the board at the same time. we don't need to rehear them, but i will take public comment right now. is there any public comment on items three, four, or five? >> clerk: we are double checking. >> i'm sorry, are we still having audio issues? >> chairman: julie, we can't hear you. it's not working. we're going to do this next week when you are in a decent place with decent connectivity.

all right. public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call (415) 655-0001. the meeting id is 24892024267 then press pound and pound again. if you haven't already done so -- give me a moment. >> chairman: thanks julie who has her mic on. julie, turn your mic off. >> clerk: if you haven't done so please press star to line up to speak. the system will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment when we get to public comment and we current lae have two people on the line and one person in line to speak.

>> chairman: first speaker, please. >> caller: good morning chair peskin and supervisor chan and supervisor mandelman. i'm sorry that julie's audio video isn't working. she lives in twin peaks which gets spotty, i believe. it's kind of a shortcoming in our city. regarding julie's appointment to this oversight committee, i really want to strongly recommend her appointment not only as a strong member and an excellent resource to assist in this newly formed oversight committee to be established. i have known julie for over 25 years. she has been serving on the commission of status of women for nine years, has been a senior staff attorney for the

california state insurance commissioner and she also -- >> clerk: can you hang everything up and try again. we're taking public comment. >> chairman: go ahead. >> caller: hello? julie also served nine years for the st. francis hospital trustee board and she is currently the lead co-chair for the california democratic state parties platform committee. julie has as a native san franciscan, fourth generation to be exact has many years in relationship in san francisco chinatown and beyond in the asian community. i have known her to be not just smart about what she does, but quite thorough and transparent about her decision making and i believe that her number of years in the public process

with government will add to the as an asset to this new oversight committee and i highly recommend your recommendation for appointment. thank you. >> chairman: thank you. next speaker, please. >> clerk: i am confirming that we -- that was our only speaker for today. >> chairman: okay. public comment is closed and colleagues, because of the audio and audio-visual impairment for ms. soo, why don't we continue these three items to our week, one week hence and ms. soo is leave twin peaks or something. on that a roll call, please. >> clerk: yes, on the motion to continue these matters to the next meeting of the rules committee, [roll call]

the motion passes without objection. mr. chair, i just want to make one suggestion before we continue these matters. i believe there was a misspelling in mr. sponz's name. the information i received is incorrect. his name should end with an 's' and not a 'z'. >> chairman: noted please correct that. >> clerk: i will do so. >> chairman: all right. we are adjourned.