tv Public Utilities Commission SFGTV November 12, 2021 9:00am-11:11am PST
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that all of the kids like to hang out at. we have a great breakfast spot call brick fast at tiffanies. some of the older businesses are refurbished and newer businesses are coming in and it's exciting. >> we even have our own brewery for fdr, ferment, drink repeat. it's in the san francisco garden district and four beautiful murals. >> it's important to shop local because it's kind of like a circle of life, if you will. we hire local people. local people spend their money at our businesses and those local people will spend their money as well. i hope people shop locally.
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[ roll call ] commissioner paulson will be joining us late. we have a quorum. due to the covid-19 health emergency and given the public health recommendation issued by the san francisco department of public health and any emergency orders the governor and mayor considering social distancing. this meeting is held via teleconference and televised by sfgov tv. for those watching live stream, please be aware, there's a brief time lapse between the live meeting and viewed on sfgov tv. on behalf of the commission,
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like to extend our thanks to sfgov tv staff and i.t. staff for their assistance during this meeting. if you wish to make public comment, dial (415)655-0001, meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. you must limit your comment to the topic of the agenda item being discussed unless you're speaking under general public comment. if you do not stay on the interrupt, the chair can interrupt. we ask that public comment be made in a civil and respectful manner. please address your remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or staff. i like to announce at this time that item number 10, the folsom
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>> president moran: before we get into the regular order of business, i want to acknowledge this is the first meeting with our new general manager. like to welcome dennis to these proceedings. >> thank you, president moran. thank you members of the commission for the welcome. i can't tell you how excited i am to be here and it's been a very eventful first week in terms of meeting everybody and seeing the great professionalism of the employees of the p.u.c. .i had the opportunity to go out little bit. i'm learning a lot and meeting lot of great dedicated professionals who do a wonderful job on behalf of the residents and city and county of san francisco. i'm really looking forward to
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meet all of them and work with all of you. >> president moran: thank you. welcome aboard. i will apologize for some noise in the background. i'm having some work done here in the house. it won't last long. i will mute it every opportunity. please call the next item. >> clerk: next order of business is item 3, adopt renewed findings under state urgency legislation to continue to allow remote meetings during the covid-19 emergency. to continue the remote meetings for the next 30 days and direct the commission secretary to agendize a similar resolution for the next 30 days. >> president moran: any discussion on this item? >> commissioner harrington: did we heard anything about when we might move back to city hall? >> clerk: i have not received any information on when we might
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return to city hall. i know we're doing remote meetings through december. after that, i have received no information. >> president moran: seeing no additional comments, please open for public comment. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 13, which is adoption of the renewed findings under state urgency legislation dial (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. >> there are two callers in the queue. >> clerk: this is on item number
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3. >> caller: i have a general comment. may be i should wait. >> clerk: please wait until we call general public comment, which is item number 5. >> caller: thank you. >> clerk: public comment on item 3 is closed. >> president moran: any additional comments by the commissioners or questions? may i have a motion and second? moved by commissioner maxwell. seconded by commissioner ajami. thank you. please call the roll. >> clerk: [roll call vote].
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>> president moran: the item passes. please call the next item. >> clerk: next touch is 4 approval of the minutes of the october 26, 2021 regular meeting. and the october 29, 2021 special meeting. >> president moran: are there any corrections or discussions of those two meetings? seeing none, open up for public comment. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make public comment specifically on item 4 the minutes of october 26th regular meeting and the minutes for the october 29th special meeting dial (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 pound, pound. to raise your hand to speak, press star 3.
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>> there are no callers in the queue at this time. >> clerk: thank you. public comment on item 4 is closed. >> president moran: thank you. can i have a motion and second on the minutes of october 26th? moved and seconded. please call the roll. >> clerk: [roll call vote] you have four ayes. >> president moran: thank you. the minutes are adopted and on the minutes of october 29th, can i have a motion and a second please? motion and seconded. please call the roll. >> clerk: [roll call vote]
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>> president moran: those minutes adopted. please call the next item. >> clerk: next order of business item 5, general public comment. members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment on matters within the commissioner's jurisdiction and are not on today's agenda may do so by dialing (415)655-0001, meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. do we have any callers in the queue? >> there are five calls in the queue.
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>> caller: i'm president of the golden state association. i want to welcome the new general manager dennis herrera. sfpuc was recipient of a letter from secretary cal epa rejecting the voluntary agreement proposal faculty forward on the tuolumne river. we look forward to a response from the sfpuc and hopefully it will be one that reflects the environmental values of san
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franciscans and people throughout northern california. one good starting point might be for sfpuc to withdraw its participation in the lawsuit against the state water board challenging the december 2018 phase one order. that seems like an appropriate action. again, we look forward to working together to get better environmental solutions going forward. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. you got two minutes. >> caller: san francisco public universities commission needs a
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way of looking at things for the future. whether we like it or not. raging fires, climate change and we don't see any visionary models from this commission. whenever i speak, i speak for the first people and i speak for the salmon. we do not respect our first people. you stole their land. there's no document that shows me that you bought the land. you stole the land. it's all hostility. perhaps little window of opportunity to check your ways.
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may be a brain transplant so you have a vision for the future to honor the first people and to do something for the salmon. rake now, that all i'm going to -- right now that's all i will say. we have our work cut out. no lying, no cheating, do going before the courts, no going to jail, no dark cloud hanging over the sfpuc. we can make up our mind right now. right from this meeting. what part we choose. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes.
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>> caller: on behalf of the coalition for san francisco neighborhoods, welcoming the new general manager. now, speaking on my own behalf, i was passing by merced the reservoir recently in the eastern half appears to be under construction. i'm hoping this will be part of the gm's report. new subject, i would increase some of my prevent comments for the benefit of the incoming general manager. the salmon were here before human in the first people lived in harmony with the salmon and tuolumne river. later people believed they didn't need to live in harmony with salmon and the river. the salmon and river are suffering. if the salmon and the river are suffering, humans are suffering too. even if we refuse to admit it. humans could even cause themselves to go extent. if humans went extent will the
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sal -- salmon miss us? i don't think so. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. you got two minutes. >> caller: this new year, i'm a member of the center for biological diversity. i'm native san franciscan. i welcome general manager herrera. we care about the fish and other species that depend on the tuolumne and the san francisco bay area.
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p.u.c. is withdrawing the lawsuit against the state that would increase roads along the tuolumne and improve the health of the delta. when p.u.c. does outreach, they should start talking about biological diversity, evenly pg&e couple of weeks ago was talking about native plant society. how to choose plants for landscaping. this is something that p.u.c. can do too because they want people to conserve water by planting native and indigenous plants which are the big part for bees and birds. thank you.
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>> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. >> caller: thank you. this is mark gonzalez. i regularly can do on the lower tuolumne and watch the river flows. after the voluntary agreement, no one volunteer -- [ indiscernible ] epa said voluntary agreements are not being followed. even though they said they would.
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[ indiscernible ] >> thank you for your comments. there are nine more callers in queue. >> caller: thank you. my name is bill martin. i'm a san francisco resident and a customer of the sfpuc. i know i'm supposed to address my remarks to everyone but today i want to address mr. herrera our new general manager. congratulations. welcome to your official role with the sfpuc. i look forward to many fruitful conversations in the future. back in june of this year, several organizations met with you on zoom. i was the club representative at that meeting. i was very breesed with -- pleased with the open dialogue
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we had. then in september, the commissioner organized a workshop on alternative water supplies. i was very impressed with the substantial progress san diego has made in this area. as you know, the c.r. club advocate for sustainability management of our natural resources. san diego is working hard on that, especially in the area of water recycling. yesterday, mother jones magazine published an article about san diego's work. i found niese comments otheir water recycling projects pertinent. the city is breaking ground on a bigger facility which will go life in 2025 and eventually produce 30 million gallons of water per day. phase two, which calls for the construction of even more facilities, will eventually drive production to 83 million gallons a day. environmental protection agency is providing loans for the project with additional funding coming from federal and state
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grants. to put this in perspective, 83 million gallons a day is about half of current sfpuc demand. we know from san diego's presentations at the workshop that they have been planning these facilities for many years. they are already paying off an they will pay off even more in the future. mr. herrera this is a challenge for you. help move the sfpuc in a more sustainable direction. you have the opportunity to build a lasting legacy of environmental stewership. i hope you ceases it. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, the line is open. you have two minute. >> caller: thank you very much. good afternoon president moran and commissioners. this is peter from tuolumne river trust. i want to thank michael carlin for serving as a year as acting
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general manager. to welcome mr. herrera. we also appreciated most recent workshop on the long-term vulnerability assessment. we appreciated the opportunity to participate in that. makes some questions. we followed up on a letter. one was to include in your drought recurrent interval the design drought and the design drought minus one year. so we can look at what are the chances of these actually occurring. suggest the design drought might occur once every 42,000 years. we like your staff to look at it or the consultant and come up with those numbers. the second is we had some discussion about earlier runoff and how that would affect san francisco water rights.
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we took another look at that after there was some different opinions at the workshop. what we found is in dry years, water rights shift over to san francisco p.u.c. as tend to shift more towards irrigation district. the dry years really matter. look at what are the realistic expectations for earlier runoff and model that looking at the design drought and shifting the runoff by three week, four week, and a half much or may be whole range of time period. to see how that will affect san francisco from water rights. according to our analysis, three week shift will result in 237,000-acre feet coming to san francisco. sometimes these things fall through the cracks. in july, the workshop there was discussion about deeper dive in
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the population project. >> sorry, your time has expired. next caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: thank you. good afternoon president moran and commissioners. my name is susan. i wanted to welcome mr. herrera to this new role as general manager. i was heartened to rate the press release about your appointment from the mayor's off and learned of your commitment to diversify our water sources, boost our water recycling, deliver state-of-the-art strong wastewater system and by electric grid in the city.
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>> caller: i urge you to carefully read the scientific evidence that shows that the sfpuc can reduce the length of the design drought without jeopardizing water supply. keeping the tuolumne river and the bay healthy with adequate flow must be a high priority for san francisco. thank you so much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. >> caller: thank you to the chair. it's good to be back with you. i come to you simply as an ordinary user of electricity.
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my opinions are my own. i practice my values through the use of electricity and living in an all electric home. i'm not in san francisco right now but san francisco always with me. i asked that we build the most affordable and cleanest and most equitable electric grid that we can. i'm going to talk more about renewable and cleanpowersf. i feel in this change of management that i would advocate for what i call municipalization of our electric grid. that way, the people of san francisco can have oversight over the delivery of electricity as well as the generation.
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science. also science advisor to tuolumne river trust. looking forward to working together on protecting water resources to address the needs for human and environmental needs. we need to invest in our joint future with water resource protection. under the global climate changes that we know are already under way. there will be -- i'm hoping we'll be using river basin
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decisions. it will be doing -- [ indiscernible ] i was listening to the workshop on the new model that was developed for the sfpuc. those tools are really excellent but they can be used in different ways. i'm hoping that you will be open to investigating scenarios that go beyond what has been done so far in terms of modeling what's happening under earlier stream flow runoff and what's happening in warmer temperatures.
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thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: my name is jonathan, formally resident of san francisco, now oakland. i want to thank commissioner moran and rest of the commissioners for hosting all the different workshops this past year. i want to congratulate mr. herrera for his appointment. i'm a former biologist, former angler and former fishermen. it really saddens me about the salmon on tuolumne watershed
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last wednesday. coming down past the dams and in modesto and think being how the few salmon is coming back. i lick to ask the -- i like to ask the new general manager withdraw your lawsuits against the delta bay plan and especially since you got the recent letter -- [ indiscernible ] thank you for all your work. congratulations again mr. herrera. i hope you take us into a new direction where we have sustainable watershed, salmon drinking water. >> thank you for your comments.
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next caller. your line is open. you have two minutes. >> caller: thank you very much. i want to extend a welcome to mr. herrera as the new general manager. as others have said, i will echo, it is so important, environmental stewardship is so important for sfpuc constituenting. we are hopeful mr. herrera will become the environmental leader that sfpuc has been lacking for so long. we know that ceqa applies, we know that sometimes there are ways to get around ceqa. what's best for the environment is not always done. we hope that you will reconsider what is being undertaken with habitat destruction for wildfire preparedness, habitat destruction that will actually destroying the habitat that will make people and the area less
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safe. it will destroy our biodiversity and also take a hard look at recreational uses on sfpuc land. we urge you please, take the environment seriously. if we do not protect our backyard, if we do not do what we need to do to protect our native habitat and rivers and waterways, there's no hope for the future. this is going to be home for people for years to come. we have to take care of the native habitat. stop prioritizing recreation and other actions over what's best for the native habitat. thank you so much. >> thank you for your comments. >> caller: good afternoon, this
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is david pilpel. i joined with those welcoming new general manager dennis herrera. i certainly hope he succeeds. when he succeeds the p.u.c. succeed and we all succeed. on item 10, which was pulled from the calendar, i hope for more explanation on the process and alternatives considered and why this particular one was selected. including the discussion about the regional water quality control board. and the m.t.a. 16th street improvement project which was approved by the m.t.a. board on october 19th, item 12 which i understand is going to tear up 16th street.
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i believe it is not expanding the sewer under 16th street. i thought that's a huge missed opportunity that relates to the folsom flooding situation. i would like to know how employees working in the office in the last -- since the first, how that is going. great work by commission secretary hood on including and redacting all the correspondence including the significant number of e-mails on the cross country course. good work there. finally not for the minutes but i also care about salmon and yet, i like to eat salmon. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you for your comments.
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>> caller: hello. i'm with the california salmon. i wanted to congratulate you on your new commissioner. i wanted to ask that now that we're looking into future priorities, if san francisco would consider dropping its anti-environmental lawsuit and start working with the state water board on how to actually implement. i really believe that san francisco people and as a city want to be environmental leaders in the world. i know you do a lot to do that. eating salmon is great. everyone should be able to eat salmon. in san francisco, they used to be a hub of salmon fishing. we need to be a lot smarter about how we manage water, suing against kind of restoration within the delta, especially at
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on time we lost about 98% of the wild salmon and we are coming up with weird smells. we're chasing a -- facing massive extinction crises. i hope that now is the new change of leadership, we can start approaching things in a new way and start working with the state on restoration and flows for salmon and on saving water, to make sure salmon can be part of san francisco's legacy for a long time. san francisco can be the kind of environmental stewards that its people want it to be. i look forward to working with you on making sure that can happen and that we can have a healthy bay, healthy delta and a healthy river. thank you.
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>> caller: i'm with the northern california council of fishing international. i want to welcome dennis herrera has general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission. very hopeful that you will be the environmental leader that we sorely need for the sfpuc. important things like voluntary minimum flows to the 40% level, you support the delta bay plan. hope you will follow suit with that. we hope you'll follow the science about planning for droughts. not plan for extremes. obviously many things are cyclical. we think planning for the extreme is not the answer.
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for example in israel and australia which uses extraordinary methods to recycle water. i think san francisco p.u.c. can learn from that. we heard about san diego. welcome mr. herrera to your position. we'll have high hopes you'll lead us as an environmental leader. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. >> caller: thank you. good day commissioners and general manager herrera. welcome as general manager. as an indigenous person, who's
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ancestors has been here for 10,000 years, on my settler side as fourth generation californian, family arrived in california as it was joining the union. the third generation san franciscan who still owns her family home, as one who took prayed in san francisco named for st. francis. rivers and fishes were here before all of us. as the star wars movies emphasized, the way we arrived at our goal is as important or more important achieving it.
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it's good that we rise together. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. there are no more callers in the queue. >> clerk: general public comment on item 5 is closed. >> president moran: please kale the next item. >> clerk: item 6 communications. >> president moran: any discussions on any of the items we included in our communications? seeing none, please open up for public comment. >> clerk: members of the public
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who wish to make public comment specifically on item 6, communications, dial (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. this is on item 6, communication. >> there's one caller. >> caller: this is david pilpel again. specifically on item 6f, the cleanpowersf quarterly report, doesn't have to be today but i would love to know in a future report, how many cleanpowersf
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customers on the time of use rate compared to none, time of use rates. i think i commented before. i'm wondering how many people are opted out of time of use rates and back to standard rates. i think that would be useful to know. if barbara or michael know today, that will be fine, if not, another time is okay too. i think it will be worth disclosing in a future quarterly report. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. there are no more callers in the queue. >> clerk: public comment on item 6 is closed. >> president moran: thank you. next item please. >> clerk: next item is 7, report of the general manager. mr. herrera? >> thank you madam secretary.
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mr. president, the first item up for discussion will be a drought update presented by assistant general manager steve richie. >> good afternoon commissioners. i'm the assistant general manager for water. this will have a number of slides that we've seen routinely as water supply updates. now we're shifting into drought update mode. this is our reservoir storage levels. they are doing reasonably well. as i will describe later, we've been able to add to them a little bit at this point in time. by curtailment. the picture of reservoirses around the state has not changed very much. may be little bit as a result of
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the major storm that we did have during the month of october. also, the drought picture has changed a bit. much more california was an exceptional drought, the brownish color. now reverted to the red color, which is extreme drought. what that signifies, that last storm, that big storm in october was significant and useful but doesn't get us out of the a drought. this is early in the year. it's interesting to note that storm was significant actually has carried us above the rate of prescription for 1983, our wettest year on record. i'm not going to say, this is now going on the wettest year. certainly for the month of october, it was a big storm.
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also on the snow pack front, there was no part of the storm. we have had some of that snow melt. it was good to have a big storm like that. also, in water available to the city, we had a big chunk of andoff so -- runoff, we have actually moved to having 81,000-acre feet of water available to the city. which is already more than we got the entire last water of 57,000 acres feet. we will be looking towards 600,000-acre feet. which is necessary to achieve full reservoir storage on you july 1, 2022. you can see here for the
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upcountry prescription, it was well over. on the bay area front, next slide, it was much more dramatic more than 10 times the average prescription for the month of october was received in that one storm. again, it was a big hit in that storm. locally, we didn't get few hundred acre feet of additional storage. because of conditions were so dry, particularly in the east bay area, lot of this really went to starting to make the watershed moist. you can tell now by the grown grass in the hills and bay area. this is the national precipitation forecast. you can see there was a bit of activity in the week of novembe. again some activity now as we experienced already today. this week, looking forward to the next two weeks.
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basically after this storm, the rest of november will be dry. this slide is actually stunning in the decrease in demand that was experienced there between the third and fourth week of october. that was during the big storm. you never seen it drop this much. it went from 193 million gallons per day of demand to 163 milliof demand. drop 30 million-gallon per day in demand. it shows clearly here as we've been since july, we've been below calendar year '19 and '20 and last five-year average, next slide, it dipped below the 2015 level of demand, which was the driest there at the end of the last drought. i was looking forward to the next week's demand, which just just came out the other day.
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i thought it might pop up little bit. it decreased little bit. people turned off their irrigation and left it off. that is probably a good thing overall for water conservation. that's the water picture. little bit on curtailment, the curtailments were lifted for the sfpuc points of diversion on the tuolumne on october 19, 2021 by the state water resources control board. they anticipated the storm coming. we anticipated there will be a big storm coming. they lifted the curtailments. as of november 1st, the curtailments continued to be expensed. they continue to be suspended through today and this may continue for some time. this is not a period of time when there's normally a lot of rivers.
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we're not sure what approach water resources and full board can take. they will be providing weekly updates on whether or not the curtailments will be reinstated. they on an tuesdays and more frequent as conditions dictate. in terms of what we actually got out of the storms. as of midnight october 31st, we seen additional 56,000 acres feet. in the subsequent days, we're now seeing an additional 3000-acre feet in the hetch hetchy reservoir. this is good addition to our storage upcountry. we need some of these rivers to
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produce a normal water year by any means. we credited water bank about 12,000-acre feet. because of the curtailments were lifted, we were able to utilize water bay. it did come into play in terms of management of our reservoirs in storage. none of this really says that we are at the end of the drought. we are looking forward to coming back to the commission next meeting to talk about and present a proposed declaration of water shortage emergency for the commission to consider. i would be happy to answer any questions. >> president moran: any questions for mr. ritchie.
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mr. herrera? >> thank you mr. president. one thing i wanted to alert the commission -- >> clerk: we do need to call public comment on that item. >> president moran: my error, thank you. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 7a, dial (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 146 981 4334 to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. do we have any callers in the queue? >> there are two callers in the queue.
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>> caller: hello, i'm peter from the tuolumne river shop. good news in this report. not only is 81,000-acre feet that we received in october omore than 57,000-acre we received all of last year, 81,000-acre feet is little bit more than one third of the water the regional water system will demand this year. current demand is about 225,000-acre feet. 81,000-acre feet is a lot and it came in october. reservoir storage is back up above one million acre feet. we have enough water in storage for the last four and a half years. there's talk about drought. california is in a drought. sfpuc has not been a drought. we had four years worth of storage. now we have four and a half. really good news about demand
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being lower at least right now than it was in 2015. people really taking things seriously. was not in this report, it might be interesting for you to get reports is on the salmon. last year was a very poor year. we had just over 1000 salmon. right now, we're 171 a year. last year at this time, it was 431. we're at 40% of the salmon we had last year, which was a terrible year. tuolumne river is in really bad shape. last year, we received 13% of flow, the year before 15%. basically this idea of not feeling comfortable unless everything is full is having a terrible impact on the tuolumne. we need to understand that water will come. it came in october. right now, the way it's managed is as long as there's space and
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storage, water agencies take everything they are entitled to and it's only when the system spills that the environment benefits. >> sorry, your time has expired. you have two minutes. >> caller: this is david pilpel again. couple of points here on item 7a. i thought there was going to be a drought emergency declaration today. i thought that was discussioned six weeks ago. is that now pending what happens during this water year? is that coming back in two weeks? is that still possible. wondering where we are on a local drought emergency declaration that this commission might make. secondly, perhaps the larger
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question, there's no good answer to, how do we get the state to recognize the city and perhaps the peninsula, those of us who are not just individuals but communities that are low water users and not penalize us under drought conditions. this idea that all cities, counties water districts, etcetera, could achieve 10%, 15% or 20% less use under drought conditions doesn't reflect the fact that san francisco is way under the state average probably the national average in per capita water use. if there's some way we can better advocate for that, i think we should. i don't know the answer to that second question. thank you for listening.
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know, ballpark compared to what she is doing up here. so it is really important for us to communicate that with the state. i know everybody is reporting their water use and overall to the state and i know the state has been tracking this since the last drought, but i wonder if you can talk to the state board to maybe tracking water use as well, because it's currently not reported and so just a suggestion. i'm happy to talk to the state board myself, but i think it would be valuable to come from our staff as well. >> thank you. any other comments? >> can you hear me, this is commissioner paulson on the phone. >> welcome, commissioner. go ahead. >> commissioner paulson: yeah, i've been on the phone. i've had internet problems, but
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i've been on for almost since roll call. so that being said, i just, you know, want to thank mr. ritchie for the drought update. and i think that some of the comments i've heard i want to echo. when you get a big storm or anything that kind of busts out of the seams the ebb and flow of various things, make, you know, the reports at least in the short-term pretty volatile. and so i do hope in conjunction with the other thoughts, especially what commissioner harrington said, that, you know, we do have a little more ebb and flow in the reports also as opposed to just the levels and just the -- just the, you know, the level of, you know, consumption or reactions to that so that we have some of those nuances in there as we get to the next meeting as mr. ritchie had mentioned.
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so i just want to say it with -- i do hope this gets fleshed out a little bit more. because i think all people in the bay area and san francisco in particular are, you know, wondering like, you know, i did early this morning when i saw that we got 7.8 inches in san francisco and how much is going to go and what does that mean? and i think everybody is really, you know -- i won't say anxious -- but they're more engaged now. there is a drought, but there are all these other crazy things happening, so thank you. >> president maxwell: thank you, commissioner. any other comments? dennis, i think that the coast is clear. >> thank you, mr. president. and commissioners, just briefly, i'm sure you're aware, it was in the us that on friday, that on november 5th after months of negotiations, the house passed senate approved infrastructure in jobs. which is a $1.2 trillion package
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that passed largely on party lines and president biden will likely sign it imminently, but once acted it unleashes over $500 billion in new federal spending for a variety of infrastructure categories, including wastewater, water, and infrastructure projects. and i just wanted you to know that i have our staff actively tracking that to make sure that as the legislation becomes more clear and it's signed, that we're able to report to you on opportunities that we see about what that funding means for projects here at the sfpuc. so our public and government affairs staff is tracking with our lobbyist to make sure we can provide you with more specific updates as items develop. >> president maxwell: thank you.
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any questions for the general manager, or comments? madame secretary, if you could open up for public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment on item 7, dial 1-415-655-0001, meeting i.d., 146 981 4334, pound, pound. to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. do we have any callers in the queue? >> there are no callers at this time. >> thank you, public comment on item 7b is closed. mr. president? >> president maxwell: thank you. next item, please. >> this item is item 8, new commission business. >> president maxwell: any new commission business? seeing none, there is no need
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for public comment. next item. >> next item is item 9, the consent calendar. commissioners, any items you would like removed from the consent calendar? seeing none, let's open this up for public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment on item 9, the consent calendar, dial 1-415-655-0001, 146 981 4334, pound, pound. to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. do we have any callers in the queue? >> madame secretary, there are two callers in the queue. >> thank you. >> hello, caller, i opened your
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line. >> thank you. commissioners, you know we still have this same -- the same issues. we've got a consent calendar with contracts that are not being discussed publicly. and a simple review of the c.m.d. memos shows the following. companies where the owner is not certified for certified in the line of business that they're claiming to be, companies that the owner of the company is not even licensed in the state of california to perform work, and having a surrogate or a front of the company. this is courtesy that is also be paid for by public money. my second comment is regarding the it's how you spend the
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money. if you look at the corruption that is rampant in city and county of san francisco, including the contracts of the you'll see that you're spending a lot of money on little, if nothing, in production. one project, $9 million that you've added about two, three months ago for the tunnel after three years of design they did not see a highway foundation, a column foundation? and you just give them another $9 million to cover up the problems and challenges they've had not being able to see it in the design phase. so it doesn't matter whether it's $500 billion or $600 billion, if you don't know how to do the work, it doesn't matter how much money. we are going to get the to point that if there is a natural disaster on a grand scale, it
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doesn't matter how much money you print, because you cannot -- >> sorry, your time has expired. thank you for your comments. next caller. the line is open, you have two minutes. >> can you hear me now? loud and clear. great. david pilpel. i just had a brief comment on item 9c, i'm not sure it's worth pulling for separate discussion, but if i could make my comment on 9c, that would do it for me? does that work? >> go ahead. >> great, thank you. so, i found contract number 6 and 7 for various locations for replacement that was at meetings in the last few months, but i didn't see a various locations replacement number 8, so i'm wondering if that number was
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skipped or it was handled administratively, or if number 9 came out of sequence. i don't know why i'm wondering about that. and also for these types of -- this type of work where it's various locations, there is a list in the staff report, but it would help me and other members of the public in the future to just include a city map showing the locations of the various locations for the zero replacement work this kind of thing. doesn't affect your ability to act on this today and i'm fine with it, but i just wanted to make those comments. thanks. >> thank you for your comments. madame secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. >> thank you, public comment is closed. >> president maxwell: thank you. commissioners, can i have a motion and a second of the consent calendar.
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>> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: >> ian:. >> you have five ayes. >> president moran: next item. >> as i noted in the beginning of the meeting, item number 10 has been pulled from the calendar. the next item is item 11. discussion and possible action to authorize the issuance of $127 million of the 2021 series ab power revenue bonds presented by mr. morales. >> thank you. could you pull up the slide, please.
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thank you. so good afternoon, i'm rich morales. puc. i am here today to provide a brief presentation for the power enterprise. we're asking you to consider the approval of up to $127 million of the 2021 series ab power revenue bonds. here i'd to provide an overview of the bonds. this will provide financing for the capital program. the 2021 power bonds will be sold in an amount not to exceed 127 million and will be sold in two subseries. one in the a fund, that is low cost funding and two, the
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subseries b bonds which commercial paper will provide interim funding of the transmission projects. because the bonds fund generation projects that produce greenhouse gas, this series is designated at green bonds. this is a -- [indiscernible] to inaugural 2015 bond issuance and this transaction was included in the fiscal year 2021-22 capital plan presented to you on october 12. so with this slide -- [indiscernible] both the series a bonds and the series b bond will have maturity and bear a fixed interest rate.
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with the outstanding 2015 revenue bonds and both series will be issued on a -- basis. on the bonds ending guidance from the rating agencies. the bond will be offered and sold pursuant to a competitive sale with underwriters able to bid on the bonds. per our financial advisor, the power bonds priced today would have average yield to call of 1.95%. should you approve the transaction, we will open the bids in the beginning of december and close in mid december. i would like to say that a piece of information provided needs to be adjusted. we showed a true interest cost of 1.95%. the cost is based on the yield
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to -- the yield to call -- redeemed by the puc at first call date in ten years and refunded rather than holding the bonds for the 30-year life. and this is indicative of the pricing of the bonds. fine to use in your good faith estimates. we typically use the true interest costs that is based on the yield of maturity, which is the higher estimate since it assumes we hold the bond to its final maturity in 30 years. so the cost is 3.29%. i will indicate that we mostly in all of our outstanding bond issues, we do call them either prior to or at the -- date and have successfully executed refunding. so hopefully we'll be able to do that with these bonds in 10 years or less. so these are the key
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transaction, that you're being asked to approve today. [indiscernible] the provisions of the bond and the commission of the -- the second supplemental venture, new -- sets forth the parameters for underwriters to bid on the bonds and the continuing disclosure certificate which is appendix and p.o.s. and this outlines the puc reporting obligations and requirements through the life of the bonds. next slide. in keeping with commissioners' ongoing bond disclosure training, the most recent on october 12, the following are certain key q&a. i won't read them. they're up here. these are part of a more complete disclosure q&a. so this slide sets forth the specific actions you're asked to consider on this action. on this item. up to $127 million, 2021 series
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ab power revenue bonds -- authorize the general manager to sell the bonds in one or more series on a competitive basis and award the bonds to the lowest cost bidder. so the next slide. this completes my presentation. i'm happy to take questions. >> president moran: thank you. commissioner harrington? >> commissioner harrington: thanks, rich. i'm actually fine with issuing this debt. this one and the wastewater are new since i've been on the commission and i'm wondering, do you report back to us when you sell the bonds, what the interest rates ended up being, who bought the bonds? what report do we get back after we sell them? >> as i mentioned two weeks ago, yes, we plan on coming back to you with a report on the results of the sale.
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since the power bond sale is on the heels of the wastewater bond sale, what i'd like to do is schedule it all at one meeting. so i'll give you the results for the wastewater and the power bond and some feedback on the rebond issuance, which both have rebond components in case of the wastewater transaction. the answer, commissioner harrington, is yes, very much so, we will report back to you about both transactions. >> vice president ajami: thank you so much for your presentation. time in sure this is -- i'm not sure this is the right question for you or if this is something you would like to answer. in the infrastructure bill we have, there are resources available for also power infrastructure. i wonder -- i wonder if -- i'm
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hoping that we're going for some of that and i wonder how that will impact some of our debt financing? >> yes. i have not reviewed the bill yet. my staff and i will review it. i'm sure others in the agency as well as general manager hair herrera said, he's working on that task as well. i'm sure there will be other opportunities and we'll see how that impacts the need for future debt issues. >> commissioner ajami, we'll make sure that's a priority to investigate that issue for you and we're on top of it. >> vice president ajami: thank you. and just to highlight a broader topic, too, i'm constantly worried about the issuance and the revenue and the relationship between the revenue collection and the debt issuance and are we
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doing -- having a right balance between the two in the long run. i want to make sure we have a financially health utility that does have tons of debt. and then the revenues keep paying back that. so it's really good to make sure we have a diverse set of financing mechanisms and beyond that financing and making sure we can keep our rates affordable in the long run. >> yep. thank you. >> president moran: any other comments or questions? seeing none, please open up for public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment on item number 11, dial 1-415-655-0001, meeting i.d., 146 981 4334. pound, pound.
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to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. are there any callers in the queue? >> there is one caller in the queue. >> thank you. >> hello, caller, your line is open, you have two minutes. >> i apologize. i want to speak on item number 12, so i pass. thank you. >> thank you, caller. make sure you raise your hand at that time. madame secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. >> public comment on item 11 is closed. >> president moran: thank you. any additional discussion by the commission? can i have a motion and a second? >> approval. >> second.
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>> president moran: motion seconded. please call the roll. >> >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner moran: aye. the next item is item 12, discuss and possible action to approve a resolution establishing commission priorities. and 5, communications. that they will result in significant and measurable improvements in all priority areas. and that they will in turn guide the commission in evaluating his performance. president moran? >> president moran: thank you. commissioners, we discussed when
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i introduced this at our last meeting the intent here was to capture a moment of time when we have new leadership coming in and the commission has been through a process of looking at what its challenges are and what it needs to do and what is expected from the new general manager. so we wanted to capture that in a way that was correct and also transparent to our constituents at large. a couple explanatory notes on that. one is this is not intended to be a complete list of our priorities. the organization is too big for that. and, frankly, that kind of list would lose focus and not be very useful. so we tried to get a little more specific. it's not intended to highlight the most important things we do. so as an example, there is nothing in here that talks about
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meeting water quality standards or adhering to the permit conditions that the facilities have to operate under. those are incredibly important things, but that's also what we do for a living and those are in pretty good shape. so, the intent was to capture those elements that we believe are important at this point in time if we were to do this a year from now, the list would probably be different. and i should also say that it's -- it's not only not intended to, but it's intended to not either establish new policy or to revise policy. that's not to say that's not important at some point in time, but that's not the role of this particular resolution. since we made this available to the public after the last meeting, there have been some comments that have come in. two primary areas.
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the first was from bosska and the wholesale customers saying that they are a big and important enough customer that maintaining our relationship with them is important. and the good relationship we have is not an accident. it wasn't there because the relationship was pretty good, but i think the argument is compelling. we represent two-thirds of our customers, an important relationship. and i would propose for the commission's consideration that we add to the resolution the following. before the bullet on environmental leadership, i would propose to add a new bullet regional leadership, continue strengthening the relationship with bosska represented to puc wholesale
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customers. and when we get to that part of the proceeding, i would make that as an amendment. the second area of comment we thought was from a variety of ngos and people who have been following the environmental issues that we're involved in, and objecting to the -- we have about implementing the voluntary agreement and suggesting that the secretary's letter, that this was perhaps no longer warranted and it would be an opportunity to set a new direction for the commission. i've talked to folks who reviewed the correspondence. i think the basic point that we need to be reviewing our actions
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and our policies as the world changes around us, i think that's a correct point and i think this is also a time at which things are changing more rapidly than normal. on the other hand, i don't want to get into a position where we're modifying commission policies through this resolution. so at the appropriate time i would propose to make the following amendments. the first is under environmental leadership to add -- so it's after the first bullet, a new one saying, review the agreement with stake in relationship and partners. and the attempt in drafting that was to acknowledge the issue of review without pre-disposing ourselves to the outcome of that
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review. so it's probably less than some folks would like, but i think the important part of it here is captured. the other amendment would be to clarify the following bullet and to amend that so that it would read, coordinate with local state and partners for early implementation of habitat measures in the region. it's a little tighter and clarifies it. i wanted to offer those so they'd be on the table for the discussion we have and that the public might want to contribute as well. with that said, commissioners, any discussion? twaula. >> this is commissioner paulson, am i unmuted? >> you are unmuted. >> commissioner paulson: so, listen, you know, president moran, i really applaud you for
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taking time to help cobble this resolution together and i'm pleased to see it on the agenda. i think one of the words that you mentioned in your introduction was the word attentive. and it was actually a bullet, because i actually scribbled a couple of words down for my comments on this particular piece. because it is -- this does -- i really do think it has the reflection of the issues that have come up over the last couple years. and i think that all of us, my fellow commissioners, have all been, you know, attentive to listening to constituents, both
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in san francisco and outside of san francisco. so know what some of the priorities are and, of course, now with new general manager dennis herrera coming in, i think this was not a line in the sand, but at least a policy statement. because as you said, this is not a be-all and end-all and it doesn't solve the world, but it puts down some policies of those five different lines that are in the agenda and i'm just pleased to see it. i will probably support the amendments, especially the first one that you said. but i do think -- because i think we are with our workshops be and whatever, the issue of talking about the twaulmy and serious debate around that important part of our system are
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engaged. i think the -- number 2, environmental leadership. i think that kind of sums it all up, but i'm not going to quibble about it. the idea, we're not going to change the world. this is like the declaration of independence or something. it's not the real constitution and the whole body and congressional legislation that has gone on for the last 200 years that redefines what our democracy is and isn't supposed to be. so, i'm pleased with the fact that we're doing this as a collective unified commission. and, again, just my other nuances are the partnership and leadership of basska and community partners. i'm more than fine with that, but i hope we don't overstate
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and tip off where we're going during this complicated drought time how we're going to deal with every single piece of our resources. so anyway, again, thank you, chair moran, for, you know, for stirring this thing and introducing it. i'm signalling i'm going to vote for it, but i hope that if we don't talk about it too long that we don't get too deep into those amendments that signals anything about where we're going to end up as we try to steer the twaulmy situation. thank you. >> thank you, commissioners? >> i would like to add one
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thing. i do appreciate your comment about this is not the entirety of everything that we do. and we should not try to make it all those things. but under the capital effectiveness and integrity, we have one bullet about green infrastructure policies, but the other thing we were focusing on with the workshops is really changing how we do green infrastructure to include the rest of the city family and not just do it on our own, because we often get stuck in our own thing. what i was hoping to add was a bullet, a final bullet under capital effectiveness and saying integrate sfpuc capital planning with other city departments to maximize public benefits in addressing climate change, flood resiliency. the overwhelming issues and it's a push we would like to make -- not changing policy, but a bit of encouragement to work city-wide. i'm happy to repeat it and we
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can talk about it when we get to amendments, but if we can add that, i think that would be useful. >> thank you. >> vice president ajami: i really appreciate and i want to add maybe needs to be both cross city family and within our own enterprises. i saw this multiple times. we need to do a better job of coordinating across enterprises and focus on how we can do projects that benefit all three groups or coordinate across them for investments or accounting, anything that we do. i would say what ed said in addition to enterprises. as i have the floor, i'll ask one other thing. again, not to repeat that i really do appreciate you starting this. and i do actually acknowledge that obviously this is not a
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comprehensive list of the things that we expect dennis to do. we hope that he would accomplish everything in the world and be best at it, but just this is obviously a starting list. but one other comment is under the first organizational leadership. and maybe sort of encompassed in one of the other points that you have, but how we can internally grow and grow the capacity of our employees to be able to do more and maybe invest in their professional growth, rather than constantly relying on external consultants for work. not that they won't appreciate the work that is being done externally, but i think i would really like to see more of our own staff doing work and
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competent enough to accomplish instead of bringing in external help. one of the bullet points can be supply and demanded to include that -- expanded to include that or a standalone thing, but i would appreciate it if it could be included. >> the closest is the last bullet, which is develop pathways, but your point is different. if you add some specific language, that would be very helpful. >> vice president ajami: i'll draft one right now and send it your way. >> president moran: thank you. commissioners, other comments? >> commissioner paulson: i don't know, commissioner maxwell, if i'm jumping in online. i'm not on zoom. i'm recognized, president moran, let me know. >> president moran: you are recognized. >> commissioner paulson: thank you. since we seem to be throwing a
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lot of bullets around and hopefully donna has received some of these ahead of time or is taking diligent and furious notes right now with commissioner harrington's, you know, three extra pieces on there, i would really like -- because i was willing to just move this along as the document, but since we're adding things, i would definitely like to have, you know, somehow or another in the middle of, you know, connecting with other departments, we're not in our own silo and making it look like that. the word community -- i mean, workforce development -- because i know we talked about this, but it's -- i know it's falling into the middle of it, but if it's not in there specifically, i think i saw in the main document that it is, but i would like to have workforce development as one of the bullet points that are in there.
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and tell me if that is specifically in there or if i'm just overstating something that is already in the full document. i would like this make sure that -- to make sure that is in there. commissioner moran, maybe you can answer that for me. >> president moran: it is not explicitly in there, and that can be easily added. i might suggest as we -- just before the team building to do workforce development. >> commissioner paulson: yeah. so much of what we do, president moran, you know, there are so many folks, local hires, so many san franciscans that are doing so much work on all these infrastructure jobs that, you know, making sure that not just the standards, but also the
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workforce development step is something we're attentive to as we move forward is a priority, i think, that people would like this see in there, since we're -- again, since we're adding more bullet points to the pieces. so hopefully that is something that we can agree to. and, again, i don't know if this means that, you know, we can get this all done today or not, but i would very much like to see that in there. thank you. >> president moran: thank you. yeah, there should be no problem getting it all done today. any other comments? seeing none, could you open up for public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of public comment specifically on item 12, commission priorities for the general manager, dial 1-415-655-0001. meeting i.d., 146 981 4334, pound, pound.
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to raise your hand to speak, press star 3. do we have any callers in the queue? >> madame secretary, there are eight callers in the queue. hello, caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. caller, are you there? i apologize, i had you muted. can you hear me? hello? this is -- sorry. thank you. barry nelson with the golden state famine association. -- [indiscernible] herrera and working forward to working with him. i'll just speak to the draft priorities in the resolution and
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specifically priorities for leadership. the three we strongly support, improving relations with ngos, diversifying water supplies and planning in a manner that considers reliability and governmental protection. thank you for those, we support those items and appreciate them. i would like to urge the commission along the lines of what president moran said to revise the resolution -- the priority regarding the tuolumne river. we suggested language yesterday. the three points that are critical, that draft resolution doesn't include the bay delta. the second is recognizing the need to review and revise as necessary the position in that area based on the science. and just recognizing that the
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voluntary agreement discussion isn't in place right now pursuant to the secretary's letter. i wasn't able to track all of president's moran language, but those are the bullets that we recommend -- that we said included language or recommendations. and those are the three bullets i think it's important to address. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open, you have two minutes. >> hi there. i want to speak to environmental leadership. i think it's great that you have that as a priority for the new general manager, but second point under environmental leadership, i believe is not leadership. it is ducking leadership. to continue to fight the state's
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environmental agencies, the state water board and come up and put resources and effort into saying why we cannot protect the environment, that is not leadership. what leadership should be now would be instead of fighting the bay delta plan that the state water board has been trying for over three years to implement, is to join them and to put the resources of the sfpuc behind finding the ways that we can meet those requirements and exceed them and stop fighting them -- stop putting resources into blocking the protections that the environment needs. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments.
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next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> eileen, coalition for san francisco neighborhoods. again, welcoming mr. herrera as the new general manager. after the 1906 earthquake, the city implemented an emergency fire-fighting system to fight catastrophic fires. they have dedicated piping. awss is high volume, high pressure and its primary source of water is salt water. awss is almost entirely located on the east side. when dianne feinstein was mayor, she said she would bring awss to the east side. this has not happened. by using a single pipe for both drinking water and catastrophic fire-fighting. a retired firefighter who has
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directly in charge of awss has gone on record stating that this is seriously misguided. also using geo bond funds, it's possibly illegal. besides awss, i would encourage the puc to invest in a desalination facility at the oceanside treatment facility. this facility could be combined with an oceanside pump station to bring dedicated awss to the west side. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. your line is open. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon, president moran, members of the commissioner. this is nicole, c.e.o. i want to express support for the resolution as amended.
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i appreciate the efforts of the commission to focus its organization and your new general manager at this very critical time during this organizational transition. in particular, i'm thankful for the addition of the language related to bosska and the importance of the good working relationship that exists between the puc and the wholesale customers represented by bosska. i want to welcome mr. herrera. i look forward to working with you on these very important matters. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. >> commissioners, i'm shocked to see the priorities that you listed here and none of the priorities is the integrity and fighting corruption at the san francisco public utility
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commission. kelly issued the east bay c.m. on new year's eve, a couple hours before new year's day. so the former a.g.m. can qualify. michael carland proved his loyalty to the cartel on christmas day when everybody is not a work for his work and i quote -- i decide which end gets the work in conjunction with wayne jones. after capital program integrity, this is best illustrated by the fact that 12 indictments since 2020 and you have not even said i'm sorry. so we can move forward from there. where was the integrity of the commission when dennis normandy, a commissioner, approved contracts with the company that he had business interests with and had signed up on a corporation using the same
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address? where was the integrity in the l.e.d. light contract between kelly, lyman and -- three lawyers? where was the integrity when victor marcus, had his fingers with another cm company that never lost a single bid? and if you want to talk about your staff? would you like me to name to you how many staff that are working as engineers in san francisco puc where their mother or fathers worked for the city as well and their employment is nothing but a sham? you want to know why you can't get jobs moving forward? because nobody cares. and because the commission has never stepped in -- [bell ringing] -- and set up the goals as a policy to fight corruption.
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all you can say, is buy, buy. >> thank you your time has expired. >> thank you for your comments. your time has expired. next caller, your line is open. you have two minutes. >> my name is dave warner. i'm a palo alto resident. you may have seen a letter i sent yesterday. regarding environmental leadership in the context of rapidly changing circumstances as president moran mentions and in concert with mr. nelson's public comment, the fact that the voluntary agreement process has been suspended for us is huge given the magnitude of concerns with the bay delta plan. not having that avenue for possible resolution of conflict is a big loss. i was hoping that it would be cover more aspects and enable more possible means of success, if president moran has not already incorporated it, i would ask that we get the negotiations we started which doesn't sound
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like it's in the priorities. could restarting the voluntary agreement process be woven into the priorities? thank you. >> thank you for your comments. >> give up on the voluntary agreement process and move forward with letting the state of california restore flows into the delta. this is extremely important. we're facing extinction as several species that will never come back. and right now, it doesn't seem
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like san francisco's water supply will be threatened by flows allowed to go into the tuolumne river. we're going to have to face reality that climate change is happening and san francisco relies on salmon including all of the tribes that live in san francisco, commercial fishermen and the city itself. salmon is -- to you. instead of just putting all of this money into lawsuits and all this money into voluntary agreements and prioritizing a process that has died. just face reality, try to save water. try to make sure there is alternate water supply for the city of san francisco and that your environmental leadership moves forward and the people's money is not being wasted. the other alternative is extinction and continuing to throw money away on processes that are not moving forward and lawsuits that are not likely to win.
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so thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, the line is open. you have two minutes. >> can you hear me? >> loud and clear. >> great. david pilpel. i think last time today. so, this is great work. i appreciate and agree with the comments that you've already made prior to opening public comment. i had some thoughts on each of the bullets on organizational leadership. i would spell out edi, i assume that's equity, diversity and inclusion and i would not say those are obvious and i would spell those out. i would put knowledge, transfer and continuity. and to commissioner paulson's workforce development comment, i read that into the bullet on the top of the second page about
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career pathways for all classifications. somehow i would reword that to include workforce development because that's how i understood that. on environmental leadership, i would add continue to balance watershed access with protection. that's come up recently, but i think that's also makes sense in general going forward. on sustainable public power, i would add continue to increase municipal energy conservation efforts. i always think back to the bureau of energy conservation and i think that is still a worth while endeavor. on a capital -- capital program effectiveness and integrity, as one of you -- i forget which -- i would definitely add work with other city departments on consistency if the puc is doing it right, but m.t.a. and d.p.w. aren't, let's get everybody on
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the same page and do it right. finally, on communications, i would reinforce the organizational leadership idea, the other goals that are here and other ongoing efforts so that communications wraps up and reinforces all the other efforts. thanks so very much to president moran and whoever else worked on this effort. i think this should occur annually. this is great. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. public comment on item 12 is closed. >> president moran: thank you, commissioners. we have a series of suggested amendments. and i would propose to go through them basically one at a time. any comments before we start that process? seeing none. let's start the with the first.
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the inclusion of a bullet immediately before the environmental leadership bullet reading, regional leadership continue strengthening the puc's relationship with bawsca wholesale customers. >> moved and seconded, thank you. call the roll, please. >> president moran: aye. aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> you have been five ayes. >> president moran: the second amendment. somebody needs to mute.
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okay. thank you. second amendment would be to add under environmental leadership after the first bullet, a new bullet saying review the status of the tuolumne river agreement with view of strengthening relationships with state and local partners. i have a motion and a second? >> i'll move. >> second. >> president moran: please call the roll. >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> you have five ayes. >> president moran: the amendment passes. the third is to reword the next bullet to say coordinate with tuolumne state and local partners to early implementation of habitat measures of the tuolumne river agreement. >> excuse me, mr. president, just for clarity, do you mean to
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strike the rest of that sentence, everything after agreement? >> president moran: yes. >> so moved. >> i will reread that. coordinate with tuolumne state and local partners toward early implementation of habitat measures in the tuolumne river agreement? >> commissioner harrington: just a question. i agree with what you're saying. the only thing i want to do in terms of -- is that the only thing we want to do? was there a reason for specifying that than other possibilities? >> that is as best we could put together the extent of what the commission has committed to. >> okay. >> i move. >> president moran: thank you, a second? >> second. >> president moran: call the roll.
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>> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> you have five ayes. >> president moran: the amendment is adopted. the next amendment is, as i understand it, the commission secretary has been given language that incorporates the comments of commissioners harrington and ajami. could you read that, please? >> yes. those comments are integrate sfpuc capital planning and with other city departments to maximize public benefits in addressing climate change, sea level rise and flood resiliency. >> president moran: thank you. thank you for that language. may i have a motion and a second? >> sorry, can i -- before we -- >> president moran: go ahead. >> before we make a motion, can
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i make a comment? maybe the secretary can answer? >> president moran: yes, commissioner paulson, go ahead. >> commissioner paulson: i also sent something in that might have been combined with this about workforce development. is that going to be separate -- >> president moran: that's separate. >> or tacked on there. >> that's the next one. >> can we actually as part of the list say also water supply resiliency or water resiliency, or something along that line? >> sea level rise and flood resiliency -- >> maybe flood and water supply resiliency? >> president moran: okay.
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that is acceptable to your coauthor. >> mr. president, where should that be added? where would that be added? >> president moran: the end of the list? >> the end of the capital -- >> end of capital program. >> president moran: oh, i'm sorry, thank you. do we have a motion? >> no. >> i move it. >> so moved. >> president moran: we have two motions which is a motion and a second. call the roll. >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> five ayes. >> president moran: the amendment passes. then we have language from commissioner paulson. madame secretary, could you read
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that for us? >> yes, one moment. commissioner paulson, special attention to successful and effective workforce development in the contracts and priorities. >> president moran: thank you. any discussion on that? motion and a second? >> i'll move it. >> second. >> president moran: okay, we have a motion and a second. call the roll, please. >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. you have five ayes. and for clarification, mr. president, that would go under
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organizational leadership section, correct? >> president moran: correct. >> thank you. >> president moran: okay. any further amendments or discussion? >> i think i have one that is -- i have just sent language to donna. >> president moran: okay. thank you. >> commissioner harrington: i think mr. pilpel's comment about spelling out ei is good? >> i agree. >> president moran: we'll go with that. any further comments? >> commissioner -- vice president ajami just sent another amendment. establish programs to support employer growth and professional development and excellence. >> employee, not employer.
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>> okay, i'll make that change. employee. >> chair, i have a question? could you read that again please? >> establish programs to support employee growth and professional development and excellence. >> so this is all internal puc staff stuff to do, not outside organizations or something like that, correct? >> vice president ajami: internal. >> because that's not implied. i don't know if we need an extra word to that effect, so something doesn't just get arbitrarily contracted out. >> employee. >> employee, right? so employee -- our employees.
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>> right. but workforce development is like sometimes there are other organizations that, you know, try to recruit people to do the work. maybe even working on puc staff, so there is a whole -- anyway. do we all feel like it's internal? >> president moran: if we say it's puc employee, i think that would make it crystal clear. >> thank you for the clarification. >> president moran: any other comments? >> yes. sorry for clarification. vice president ajami's amendment will refer to sfpuc employees and should that also go under organizational leadership? >> vice president ajami: yes, please. >> thank you. >> president moran: on that amendment, can i have a motion and a second?
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>> moved. >> moved and seconded. call the roll, please. >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> you have five ayes. >> president moran: and the amendment carries. any other discussion? seeing none, on the motion as amended, may have a motion and a second? >> moved. >> second. >> president moran: call the roll, please. >> president moran: aye. >> vice president ajami: aye. >> commissioner maxwell: aye. >> commissioner paulson: aye. >> commissioner harrington: aye. >> you have five ayes. and the resolution passes. thank you very much. and also thank you to commissioner maxwell who in the early stages of this, as we were
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transferring the presidency, we also transferred lots of good wishes on this and i appreciate your help on that. >> well, i just want to thank you for your initiating this. i think it's very smart and puts us in a good position. and it's a real helpful tool, i believe, for our incoming g.m. so i want to thank all of us for doing it. because it came from all the things that we talk about and care about. so thank you, all. >> president moran: indeed. thank you, all. and is there any other business before the commission? >> no, mr. president, that concludes the business for the day. >> president moran: thank you. with that, we are adjourned. thank you, all.
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