>> testing, testing. there we go. good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the newly renovated maxine hall. [cheers and applause]. i'm san francisco mayor london breed, and i am so glad to be here. and it has been a long time coming. and it has been a trusted location that so many people in this neighborhood would come to time and time again. and there are various challenges with the vaccine, and issues around trust, there's no doubt

that when we in this community need maxine hall, maxine hall is there for us. and this is a trusted place for people of this community. [applause] a friend of mine many years ago -- her mom was struggling. her mom was only in her late 50s. and she went from being a vibrant person and she started losing weight and looking a lot different and looking unhealthy she was a woman almost 60 years old and never went into a hospital. never felt comfortable going into a hospital. and what's interesting is that her daughter was very, very much worried about what might happen to her mom. it was a very scary time for them. and eventually she convinced her

to come to maxine hall. and the people here and how she was treated -- she was open to doing the kinds of tests with needles and blood and things of that nature because there were people here who others had worked with within the community that basically reassured her that she could trust them. and eventually they discovered some things about her health and were able to get her on the right medications to get her back into the way that she did things before. and i see her on a regular basis out and about in the community as if nothing ever happened. she loves maxine hall. she loved coming here when she needs to get her flu shot, or other things. and we know that this location was temporarily moved to elio hutch community center. and i want to start by thanking james -- i'm not sure that he's here, but the eliose hutch community center, because we were concerned that during this

project that broke ground in 2019 that this service wouldn't be available to the community, and we were able to open up a temporary location with a number of trailers and elio hutch community center. want to thank the staff because it was a big thing to work in a way that you have not worked before, and we really preeshed appreciatethat. [applause] this project -- $15 million. new elevator -- elevators are expensive, by the way. i know -- when i was at the african-american culture comflex, that elevator cost us like $300,000, and that was years ago. elevators, accessibility, because a lot of people that get served here are elderly. and they need a different level of support. they can't walk up those stairs and they need this clinic. they need this location.

and so accessible -- i know that sometimes food and fruit and other things are given out and counseling sections, having the privacy in a room to have those discussions. this place means so much to so many people. and i'm so glad that this was prioritized in the 2016 health and safety bond when i served as a member of the board of supervisors and there's no way that i wouldn't make sure that organizations like this that serve the community in such a way would not receive the support that they need. so here with so many folks who are part of this community and here with i think carmen shu, the city administrator -- did she take off? oh, she's on the phone? [laughter] so carmen shu, she is the city administrator and the department of public works and carla short -- i don't think that she is here -- oh, you are?

these masks are just throwing me off. so carla short, her department, the department of public works, they managed this project to get it done on time and under budget. almost. [laughter] you guys sure know how to spend some money, don't you? and i want to thank dr. colfax for being here as well from the department of public health and the work that you do to work with the folks here in order to ensure that there's health in this community and i want to say that it's been a very, very difficult time where the city had to shut down. and we have relied so heavily on our public health folks, our nurses and our folks and our clinicians and our people out there on the field, because of the challenges that existed. and so i know that many of the people who were working at maxine hall, at elio hutch community center, they were the folks who answered all of the questions about covid and dealing with a lot of the

concern and the fear from the community. and i want to thank you for continuing to be on the front lines, even when we didn't understand the impacts of covid and what it would do. and then when we provided the vaccine, that has been a destination. and i sent everybody to maxine hall. i said get your shot at maxine hall. everyone knows what this means -- i can trust this place and i can trust the people who are part of this place, and it has made a world of difference. and now we have this world-class facility that is state-of-the-art and that should be exactly what it should be for the western edition community. and here to talk a little bit about the bond and what it means and all of the specifics who was supposed to be at the beginning of this -- this presentation, groundbreaking or whatever it ir carmen chu.

[applause] >> thank you, mayor. you never want to be on the end of the mayor knowing that you're not punctual, right. but i wanted to just come and to welcome everybody and to say a big congratulations. i know that this facility in particular has a very special place in this mayor's heart. not only because of the community that it serves, but because this is her center, right. this is the place where she grew up, and where the people in the community were served. the a place where people trusts the services here and the people who are here to take care of the community and to make sure that we continue to provide the public help that is necessary for all of our community members. so we do have a number of folks that we want to be recognizing today. and i have to apologize to the mayor, i was actually in the middle of a board meeting, hence, i could not kick off right away. but, again, i just wanted to say thank you. we have carla short here with the department of public works who has helped to deliver this, the department of public health,

grant colfax who is here as well and can speak to this. and our district supervisor right now who is dean preston who has joined us here today as well. without further adieu i would like to invite supervisor preston to come up and to say a few words of greeting and comments. thank you. [applause] >> supervisor preston: thank you, carmen, and it is really wonderful to be here with you all, thanks to the mayor, dr. colfax, director short. and to carmen chu as well. let me just say that the -- what the mayor has said is so true around not only the importance of this center to the community, but also looking back to how the funds come about, and i just want to remind everyone that when those bond measures come on to the balance, and it looks like a bunch of numbers, what we are celebrating today is when the voters of san francisco give

us the green light to do big things to serve our community. and this is all made possible because of that vote in 2016. i want to really thank all of our health care heroes. the folks who work here. the folks who had to operate. everyone knew that it would be a challenge to operate in a temporary location. like, that's tough enough. and then try doing that in the middle of a global pandemic. everyone knew that this would be a big project for d.p.w. to do. think about doing that project in the midst of a global pandemic. think about all of the work for everyone involved with the department of public health and everything that they -- all of the challenges that they have helped this city to overcome over the last year. i remember my late sister ran a

behavioral health clinic in the east bay, in oakland. and i remember the incredible stress in the years before she passed when they were operating in a trailer, in a temporary location. how difficult it was -- not just for the patients and clients, but for all of the staff to come to work in cramped quarters and for people in the community to not even really know where to go to find them. and i remember when they moved back in with the pride and the excitement that i know that folks feel about this amazing facility. and how much it meant to all of the folks who had worked so hard in these temporary locations to actually be in a permanent office to have the city invest in such a meaningful way financially in making sure that there is a home, not just now, but in the years to come, for decades and forever, for all of

you to continue serving the community. and i want to especially thank dr. james who is recently retired for her incredible work [cheers and applause]. during the pandemic. there you are. and lucia, who i know that is around. [cheers and applause]. thank you for your partnership during the pandemic and thank you for all that you do and the team here. i can't imagine who is going to fill your shoes, dr. james, but i know that some folks will try so we will look forward to continuing to partner with you and i want to introduce next the department of public works, director carla short, with thanks from my office for all of your incredible work since you have assumed the directorship of the department. welcome. [applause] >> thank you. thank you, supervisor preston. thank you, mayor breed. and administrator chu, and

dr. colfax for your outstanding leadership. it is really an honor to be here with you today. i'm carla short, the interim director of san francisco public works. and our team -- project managed this and designed this and delivered this project. the very exciting to be here at the re-opening of maxine hall. as the mayor noted, the building was originally built in 1968, and it was our job to bring this building into the 21st century. so with a very expensive elevator as well as seismic improvements and state-of-the-art facility, new patient rooms, larger exam rooms, we really hope that this facility will continue to provide for the community as it has done. i also really want to acknowledge what we just heard. you know, the staff worked throughout this pandemic. our team worked throughout this pandemic. they came every day to, you know, to carry out their essential duties to get the job done.

so i do want to recognize a few folks on our team, led by ron alameda, who is the city architect. and joe chin and charles king of public works. [applause] and especially our colleague at the department of public health it is partnerships like this that we come together that we can really deliver something magical for community. so i too want to thank the voters who approved the public health and safety bond. when you support those bonds, you support these very important projects that really then goes on to support everyone in the community. so we are very grateful for that. and i think -- we just want to recognize the important role that these types of centers -- as the mayor noted -- play when we have a global pandemic. who knew that was coming? but thank goodness that we had a facility like this to provide for folks a trusted facility. so public works is so proud to have been part of this project and the grand reopening today. and thank you all for your

support. and with that i would like to introduce dr. grant colfax. [applause] >> well, good afternoon, everybody. thank you. it's so great to be here on this beautiful day. i want to thank mayor breed, supervisor preston, city administrator chu and dr. short, and the voters, for bringing this project to fruition. it has been a while. most of all i want to thank the dph team, the incredible dph team, who worked on this both here at the clinic and across dph for your resiliency and strength and for getting this work done. this is so amazing. thank you so much. [applause] i also wanted to just say that i have connections with this clinic that goes back some ways i actually trained here as a resident. and i will say that it needed a

bit of refurbishing, shall we say, at that point. and i remember talking about the elevators and was recalling getting stuck in an elevator here at one point and that was a while ago. and really excited to be here. and these renovations are really about ensuring that we provide a caring environment for people to get the care they need, to serve the whole patient. and serving the whole patient means providing an environment that is welcoming for people to get check-ups, for people to get primary care, and women's health care and medical testing and doing that all in one location. you know, in the medical jargon we call this low-barrier access, but that's really just a way of saying that we're flexible, that people can drop in, that we support people and caring for themselves. and it really takes a team in many cases to ensure that people realize their full ability towards health and wellness. it is has been over a year and a half. we've had the pandemic fight and, again, it is amazing what this clinic have done and what

the staff have done and most importantly i think what the community has done to ensure that their health and wellness is maintained as well as possible. i also want to call out james and thank him for his partnership, including elio hutch, especially with the implementation of covid testing and the vaccinations, that took some work and it took partnership. it wasn't always easy. and there were some difficult conversations. but we built those partnerships, and look where we are now. since the start of the panhandle, maxine hall has administered over 17,000 covid tests and almost 10,000 vaccines. [applause] yes, amazing, over 10,000 vaccines. and i just have to say it -- there are some kid over there and i wonder if they're vaccinated yet and they look like they're between 5 and 11, right, and if you are eligible for your booster, get your booster. i also really want to acknowledge westside community services and executive director marianne jones for their important ongoing work.

[applause] right. we know how important behavioral health is and this clinic stayed open during construction and during the pandemic to provide those all-important substance treatments to the community. so we have done well here. part of this is work allows the western edition to have one of the highest rates of vaccination in the city, with 78% of people fully vaccinated. [applause] that's great work. and that is in partnership with the community leaders and people who received their cure here at maxine hall. and in that regard it is my great honor to welcome roslyn fraser with a long-time member of maxine hall advisory committee and has lived in the western addition for a period of time i believe. over 30 plus years. so thank you so much for being here and i appreciate your wisdom and your guidance as we do our work and serve the community. welcome.

[applause] >> welcome, mayor london breed, mr. grant colfax and supervisor dean preston and all of the representatives and the city leaders and also the patient advisors that are here today. thank you, everyone, for coming out to see our new renovated maxine hall clinic. you could have been anywhere else, but you chose to be here with us on this special day to celebrate with us. i know -- i know that mrs. maxine hall is smiling down on us on this special day. she was a big advocate in the western edition and she would have been proud. my name is roslyn fraser and i have been coming to maxine hall

health center for more than 13 years. and i have served on patient advisory committees for about five years. and it have been a pleasure to serve on different projects. such as the hypertension equity group. the city-wide pack. and the subcommittee for the covid vaccine outreach. i thank god for my health and strength for allowing me to serve on these different committees. now that the clinic is remodeled, what i like most about the clinic is that it is very up-to-date, and thank god that we have an elevator. [laughter]. [applause] for the seniors and the disabled. and we have large exam rooms. something we have needed for years. i know all of our patients will really appreciate this. i want -- i personally want to thank the entire staff of maxine

hall and the porters and for all of the hard work and dedication that y'all have done -- have shown during this pandemic. i know that it wasn't easy, but god gave y'all -- each and every one of y'all -- the strength. i know that it was stressful, but you did it. thank you for all that you do. god bless each and every one of you. and thank you. [applause] >> thank you. thank you, roslyn, for your comments and for joining us today. of course i want to say again a big thank you to all of the city departments who helped to deliver this project.

i have mentioned the department of public works, the health department, and also the mayor's office of disability with regard to that elevator. so we definitely want to make sure to remember them. but we have been throughout all of this project really it has been the community effort and how people came together to continue serving the community. again, i want to thank all of you for doing that. and james, i think that the mayor had mentioned our thanks to you to make sure that we continue to have temporary sites and services. of course, we want to thank mary ann and all of the folks here at maxine hall. so without further adieu we are here to cut a beautiful ribbon. so mayor, come on up. and supervisor preston and roslyn, we would love to have you join us. >> thank you. (♪♪)

a city like no other, san francisco has been a beacon of hope, and an ally towards lgbtq equal rights. [♪♪] >> known as the gay capital of america, san francisco has been at the forefront fighting gay civil rights for decades

becoming a bedrock for the historical firsts. the first city with the first openly gay bar. the first pride parade. the first city to legalize gay marriage. the first place of the iconic gay pride flag. established to help cancel policy, programses, and initiatives to support trans and lgbtq communities in san francisco. >> we've created an opportunity to have a seat at the table. where trans can be part of city government and create more civic engagement through our trans advisory committee which advises our office and the mayor's office. we've also worked to really address where there's gaps across services to see where we can address things like housing and homelessness, low income,

access to small businesses and employment and education. so we really worked across the board as well as meeting overall policies. >> among the priorities, the office of transgender initiatives also works locally to track lgbtq across the country. >> especially our young trans kids and students. so we do a lot of work to make sure we're addressing and naming those anti-trans policies and doing what we can to combat them. >> trans communities often have not been included at the policy levels at really any level whether that's local government, state government. we've always had to fend for ourselves and figure out how to care for our own communities. so an office like this can really show and become a model for the country on how to really help make sure that our

entire community is served by the city and that we all get opportunities to participate because, in the end, our entire community is stronger. >> the pandemic underscored many of the inequities they experienced on a daily basis. nonetheless, this health crisis also highlighted the strength in the lgbtq and trans community. >> several of our team members were deployed as part of the work at the covid command center and they did incredit able work there both in terms of navigation and shelter-in-place hotels to other team members who led equity and lgbtq inclusion work to make sure we had pop-up testing and information sites across the city as well as making sure that data collection was happening. we had statewide legislation

that required that we collected information on sexual orientation and our team worked so closely with d.p.h. to make sure those questions were included at testing site but also throughout the whole network of care. part of the work i've had a privilege to be apart of was to work with o.t.i. and a community organization to work together to create a coalition that met monthly to make sure we worked together and coordinated as much as we could to lgbtq communities in the city. >> partnering with community organizations is key to the success of this office ensuring lgbtq and gender nonconforming people have access to a wide range of services and places to go where they will be respected. o.t.i.'s trans advisory committee is committed to being that voice. >> the transgender advisory counsel is a group of amazing community leaders here in san francisco. i think we all come from all

walks of life, very diverse, different backgrounds, different expertises, and i think it's just an amazing group of people that have a vision to make san francisco a true liberated city for transgender folks. >> being apart of the grou allows us to provide more information on the ground. we're allowed to get. and prior to the pandemic, there's always been an issue around language barriers and education access and workforce development. now, of course, the city has been more invested in to make sure our community is thriving and making sure we are mobilizing.

>> all of the supervisors along with mayor london breed know that there's still a lot to be done and like i said before, i'm just so happy to live in a city where they see trans folks and recognize us of human beings and know that we deserve to live with dignity and respect just like everybody else. >> being part of the trans initiative has been just a great privilege for me and i feel so lucky to have been able to serve for it for so far over three years. it's the only office of its kind and i think it's a big opportunity for us to show the country or the world about things we can do when we really put a focus on transgender issues and transgender communities. and when you put transgender people in leadership positions. >> thank you, claire. and i just want to say to claire farly who is the leader of the office of transgender initiatives, she has really taken that role to a whole

other level and is currently a grand marshal for this year's s.f. prize. so congratulations, claire. >> my dream is to really look at where we want san francisco to be in the future. how can we have a place where we have transliberation, quality, and inclusion, and equity across san francisco? and so when i look five years from now, ten years from now, i want us to make sure that we're continuing to lead the country in being the best that we can be. not only are we working to make sure we have jobs and equal opportunity and pathways to education, employment, and advancement, but we're making sure we're taking care of our most impacted communities, our trans communities of color, trans women of color, and black trans women. and we're making sure we're addressing the barriers of the access to health care and mental health services and we're supporting our seniors

who've done the work and really be able to age in place and have access to the services and resources they deserve. so there's so much more work to do, but we're really proud of the work that we've done so far. [♪♪] >> chair haney: this meeting will come to order. this is the november 17, 2021 budget and finance committee meeting. i'm matt haney, chair of the budget and finance committee. i'm joined by supervisors safai and dean preston who is here in

place of supervisor mar, who is not -- who will be with us at noon. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> yes, the minutes will reflect that committee members participated in this remote meeting through video conference. the board recognizes that the public access to city services is essential. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda, either channel 26, 78, or 99 and sfgovtv are streaming the number across the screen. comments or opportunities to speak during public comment period are available via phone call by calling 1-415-655-0001.

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california. 94102. mr. chair, for items 2 and 9 we did employ the office of community engagement and immigrant affairs to provide spanish interpretation for those items. if you can kind make your announcements? >> thank you. [speaking spanish]

[speaking spanish] thank you. >> thank you. and finally, mr. chair, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the supervisor's agenda of november 30th unless otherwise stated. and that concludes my comments. >> chair haney: all right. thank you. we have a very full budget and finance committee agenda today, so i appreciate everyone being brief with their presentations and for some of the items we'll have one minute in public comment which i'll announce. please call item 1. >> ahead of item 1, mr. chair, if we can have a motion to

excuse supervisor mar until his arrival. >> chair haney: yes, i want to make a motion to excuse supervisor mar. >> on the motion to excuse supervisor mar? >> commissioner safai: aye. >> commissioner preston: aye. >> chair haney: aye. >> we have three ayes. >> chair haney: great. call item 1. >> thank you. item number 1 is a resolution approving amendment number 3 to the agreement between the san francisco aids foundation and the department of public health to provide h.i.v. prevention services through city-wide syringe access and possessal services for a total amount not to exceed $42.1 million with no change to the contract term of july 1, 2016 through june 30, 2026 to commence upon board approval. members of the public who wish

to provide public comment on this item should call 1-415-655-0001. meeting i.d., 2495 103 7123 # #. if you have not already done so, dial star 3 to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and you may begin your comments. mr. chair? >> chair haney: all right. welcome back, everyone. this was an item we had last week and we wanted an update on some of the specific metrics and outcomes and so i'll turn it over to you all. >> good morning, supervisors. this is tracy packer from the department of public health. the director of the community health equity and promotion branch and we were continued to this week. we're requesting approval of a resolution to amend the agreement between the san francisco aids foundation and the health department for h.i.v.

prevention and hepatitis-c prevention services syringe access and disposal services. so the contract we're asking to amend is for access and disposal services. today i have nicole trainer with us. nicole is the contract manager and she'll give you more information and overview. we also have eileen lock rann and hannah shore who are experts on disposal services so they can answer any questions you might have. nicole, i'll turn it over to you. >> sure, good morning, supervisors. tracy mentioned the resolution before you today. again to provide h.i.v. and heptathlon -- this is to

address the h.i.v. and hep-c health disparities through this drug. syringe access services and disposal services throughout the city, specifically focusing on increased h.i.v. and hep-c testing, health education, harm reduction support, which is inclusive of sterile injection, naloxone, test strip distribution and low-barrier substance use treatment. during last week, it was requested we provide you with an update of the $1.6 million surplus fund awarded to d.p.h. the 1.6 million was added to two separate contracts outside of the syringe access and disposal contract that is before you today. of the $1.6 million, $1 million was awarded to the coalition and education project. funding for this project began

on july 1, 2021. the s.r.o. overdose prevention program seek to implement a program in s.r.o.s. this new funding expands and continues the initial work in key s.r.o.s to work with site management, staff and residents to prevent overdose deaths. services provided under this contract include outreach, site recruitment, individual training and group overdose training. the program starts activity completed since the start of the program, so since the start, funding -- the funding notice was implemented. the program has hired a bilingual program manager to expand efforts in s.r.o. and permanent supportive housing sites. staff has translated all training and resources and signage materials. the program has worked with

housing clinics to update policies that once prohibited staff from administering naloxone while at work. this allows for staff to be trained and have naloxone supply on site. they have also installed 100 naloxone stations at the tenderloin housing clinic. so that's the update for the first contract. the remaining $600,000 was awarded to the san francisco aids foundation mobile contingency management program implementation. the goal of the intervention is to reduce the negative health impacts and overdose risk among people who use drugs with a focus on mitigation and creation of substance use goal and stabilization. for this contract, funding began on july 1, 2021. services provided under this contract include 101 no threshold counseling,

contingency management and safe use, using alone coaching, individual goal-setting, client referrals, narcan training and linkage to outpatient drug treatment services at the foundation. the program started activities that have completed since the contract start date as the program has implemented their outreach efforts. this is inclusive of outreach conducted daily, monday through friday, daily, day time, and evening hours on the streets of tenderloin, soma and mission neighborhoods. there are a team of two harm reduction staff with lived experiences and bilingual spanish-speaking capabilities which have been hired to provide this much needed street-based services in high-impact locations. as of the end of october, 2021, the team has interacted with 527 people. they have distributed 628 doses

of nasal naloxone and have had a community report of reveral of 164 overdoses. the team is extremely knowledgeable in fentanyl use and provides coaching sessions. this session also includes training on how to correctly use test strips and make other life-saving choices. so i would also like to mention that the program i described above are welcome -- really welcome the opportunity to provide further programmatic updates as each of these progress. thank you for letting me present before you today. >> supervisors, thank you. if i may, nicole, thank you so much for an excellent description. as a reminder, what nicole described is surplus funding

that are separate contracts that are not before you today. today what is on the agenda is to approve the resolution to amend the contract between the san francisco aids foundation and the health department for syringe access and disposal services. so just to be clear with that. and nicole did an excellent job of preparing information about the other contracts that you had questions about, but those are not on the agenda for today, so thank you. >> hi, just to note, the chair is having connectivity issues and we did lose him. >> he did text me the same thing. >> okay. so vice chair safai, not sure if you'll want us to either open public comment or recess? >> commissioner safai: why don't we go ahead with public comment, mr. clerk.

>> clerk: very well. so, operations is checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item, please press star 3. for those already on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted. mr. adkins, let us know if there are any callers. >> commissioner safai: he's back. >> chair haney: sorry. my mouse died. >> commissioner safai: we're doing public comment. >> one more time, mr. adkins? mr. adkins, one more time confirm if we have any speakers? >> mr. clerk, there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you very much. mr. chair? >> chair haney: thank you. apologize about that. i only honestly caught half of the presentation because the

computer stopped, so i don't have any further questions, but i'm going to have to get further answers and things offline. colleagues, any questions or comments? >> nope. i asked mine all last week. >> chair haney: all right. with that, i make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. can we have a roll call vote, please? >> clerk: mr. chair, i want to double check if the b.l.a. had an updated report on this item? >> nick menard from the budget legislative analyst. we don't have a report for this item. thank you. >> clerk: and mr. chair, further, the b.l.a. did recommend -- i just wanted to confirm if the committee is accepting the b.l.a.'s

recommendation that requesting -- or the committee requesting that the department of public health provide a written report to the committee with updated performance data through fiscal years 2020 to 2021. if the committee is making that request, i can note that on the minutes. >> chair haney: yes. >> clerk: thank you very much. so i'm sorry, mr. chair, did you make the motion already to forward to the full board? >> chair haney: yeah. >> clerk: okay. on the motion to forward this item to the full board as recommended, vice chair safai? >> commissioner safai: aye. >> commissioner preston: aye. >> chair haney: aye. >> we have three ayes. >> chair haney: great, thank you. thanks, everyone. >> thank you very much. >> chair haney: please call item 2.

>> clerk: yes, item 2. ordinance appropriating $64.1 million from the fiscal cliff reserve to the mayor's office of housing and community development for rent relief under the rent resolution and relief fund and approximately $64.1 million for the acquisition, creation and operation of affordable social housing under the housing stability fund in fiscal year 2021-2022. the members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-415-655-0001, meeting i.d., 2495 103 7123 # #. if you have not already done so, please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you raised your hand. wait until the system says you've been unmuted. as stated earlier, we're working with the office of community engagement and immigrant

affairs. >> interpreter: thank you very much. [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish]

thank you. mr. chair? >> chair haney: thank you. we have with us our guest member of the committee, supervisor preston to present on this item. >> thanks so much, chair haney. and before us today is appropriate funds for the emergency housing acquisition

plan. chair haney, i want to thank you for being an early and original co-sponsor of this and prop i which is the source of all of this. the purpose of the allocation is to make a significant investment in our city's ability to take at-risk properties, to step in and purchase those buildings for permanently affordable housing and prevent pandemic displacement. i want to thank all of our cosponsors on this. i mentioned chair haney, president walton, peskin, mar, ronen and chan as well. hopefully, that is a growing list. this effort as i mentioned is predicated on prop i passed last november with support of 58% of san francisco voters. the voters overwhelmingly approved prop i with the understanding the money would be split evenly between the rent relief and social housing in the first two years and later exclusively used for social housing and this board

unanimously approved a resolution reflecting that understanding in august of 2020. the controller has projected that prop i, their original projections would generate approximately $128 million in new revenue this year. that's what this appropriation is based on. four months into the fiscal year we know that the actual amount raised is far exceeding that. it's already $82 million just in the first four months on phase 2, far exceeds the projected amount. in creating the housing stability fund, the board created a companion oversight board to provide guidance and recommendations on the use of prop i funds. despite delays, the board has met three times and at its meeting on october 28, passed a unanimous resolution on how to direct the funds received in this fiscal year.

the oversight board's resolution, the board of supervisors, urges them to approve emergency allocation for the acquisition and preservation of existing multi-family buildings to prevent displacement. the recommendation is based on a report published by the oversight board that shows we're at a precarious crossroads in our recovery. it shows a snapshot on the private market. city-wide, there are 109 buildings totalling 1065 units of housing currently for sale. -- in the interest of time, i won't go through the district specific numbers, but it is clear that san francisco's real estate market is on the rebound with growing participation and interest among real estate speculators. this is familiar to those who

were here during our last economic dip. this is a similar phenomenon that followed the great recession in 2008. in the aftermath of that constitutional investment firms, corporate landlords went on a spending spree taking advantage of their position and consolidate properties in san francisco. it went from being a big player and landlord to really being a local behemoth. we know the private equity model, their profit margins are a function of displacement. it's not just a coincidence, it's how the profit margins are constructed. the more they can move, the more they can bring them up to market rate. it's how they make their money. the crisis in san francisco is the direct result of this market

dynamic. it happened across the country and resulted in where we are today where investors are responsible for buying nearly 1 in 6 homes sold in america. we failed to stop the recession-fueled displacement a decade ago, but this time we have a chance to change course. prop i has positioned the city to pilot new and expanding and existing affordable housing programs and that's what this ordinance before you, colleagues, seeks to do. it seeks to deliver on the proposition of prop i and unanimous resolution passed here by this board, use the transfer tax revenue for social housing, in this moment, in accordance with the oversight board and amount immediate injection of $64 million to acquire properties, scaling up our acquisition program to an unprecedented level in our city's history just when we need it most. i think we not only have the opportunity but obligation to

take action. we heard this morning, and thank you, chair haney, for joining the press conference. we heard from families who have lived in their homes for decades and are terrified about the displacement as their buildings are put on the market. and they're pleading with us to intervene. this call to action has been heard and amplified by individuals and organizations across the city. i will not go through the list that i was planning to go through, again, because i know that the agenda here is busy, but i will say there are 35 different organizations already supporting this representing really a broad coalition of community housing and community groups. i want to note that the support this effort has received from organized labor, from the san francisco labor council, to many of our local unions and it comes on the heels of their housing

workers report produced by chiu and jobs of justice with the leadership of supervisor mar, the board, highlighting how the system has not worked for working families in san francisco. so one of the strategies described in that report was to invest significantly in housing acquisition. it's exactly what we endeavor to make good on today and this $64 million investment will make sure we can preserve the home for san franciscans and do so at scale. so, you know, i want to reiterate, this is not a new idea, but it would be a new chapter to have this program finally resourced in a way that it can scale up. and i want to reiterate my commitment to continuing our partnership with mayor's office of housing and community development, so if approved these funds get out the door as quickly and possible and with maximum impact across the

district. then, chair haney, i can describe for you later or now, but we, you know, i previously circulated amendments that we intend to make that i'm told are non-substantive. currently the ordinance seeks so allocate $128 million to two separate programs. $64 million to the resolution and relief fund. and $64 million to the housing stability fund. our intention is to duplicate, create separate file for the allocation to the rent relief on the one hand and the allocation of the housing stability fund on the other hand. we're not seeking to change the amounts for each of those, nor the source of funds and as i mentioned, these are non-substantive. -- deemed by the attorney. i want to reiterate no time to waste on getting these funds out there. i appreciate you, chair haney, for scheduling this, especially given how packed the agenda is.

and with that, chair haney, we do a planned presentation from caroline from mission economic development association, one of the groups with extensive acquisition experience. and i know o.c.d. is available for questions and there was a b.l.a. report on this item. thank you, chair haney. >> chair haney: great, thank you, supervisor preston for your leadership. as you and i have discussed, there is a critical urgent need for these funds to be available to prevent displacement. we've had a number of situations, some of which are ongoing in my district where if we were to see these buildings go in the private market and be sold off, families would absolutely be displaced. it's not something we can ever get back. very often these buildings are

in communities that have already faced tremendous displacement, like the south of market. sometimes they're in cultural districts and i also really want to emphasize a need when we make a commitment like the cultural district to say that this is the cultural and historic home of a community, we actually have to take concrete steps to make sure that they can stay. and so when families or residents from that community are being displaced in front of our eyes, this is an absolutely critical tool for us to be able to step in and prevent it. and so, yes, we need to build more housing and affordable housing. we talked about that, and we need to do a lot more, but we also need to protect people who are here now. i know this is unusual to do a supplemental like this, but we've also been clear and i've

communicated this as well as the chair, we've been clear about how he has -- the prop i funds. so that is also an unusual situation, but i think having these funds available. i cannot wait. it will allow to us keep people in their homes. and i think that's a goal that is worth the cost without a doubt. so, i know we have a presentation. i see supervisor safai. b.l.a., do you want to make your comments now, supervisor safai? >> just to a say a few words. thank you, caroline for being here today. she has been such an amazing partner. we honored her and meta, particularly her for her amazing work. not a lot of women of color in the field. and she called her on a friday, she called me back on a monday. and i think by the next week we

had an offer in on the largest acquisition in city's history in my district. so i am an extreme supporter of the small-site program. i think that building has 23 units, five commercial spaces. we did another one last year, in fact, the only small-site acquisition in the entire city with meta's help again. if you drive by it, you'll think you're in miami, it's an interesting color choice, but it's pretty cool. and it's already gotten attention of the neighbors. so i'm a big, big supporter of keeping people in the communities in which they've resided for a long time. this is a real tremendous tool. but this tool definitely needs a reboot. and the fact that we only did one acquisition last year says a lot about where we are. it's not necessarily just about the money that is in the

program, but the program itself. and so i think that we're going to hear today some real positive things. we're going to hear some need for enhancing the program through the mayor's office of housing along with the housing accelerator program and i think that moving this forward and i appreciate supervisor preston you bringing this conversation to the table, because we definitely need to have this conversation about how we're going to re-imagine this program and make this program more effective and allow it to work. based on the cost per unit outside of district 11, 10 and 9, it gets cost prohibitive. it's harder to do and utilize the small-sites program in other parts of the city because the buildings themselves are a lot more expensive and it exceeds what the cost per unit the program has designed for.

also, the 80% average ami is a great way to stabilize working people's housing, middle class housing, whatever you want to call it. and that is another really important aspect of this program. so just wanted to say those words of support. also really wanted to uplift caroline and the amazing work she was done and thank you, supervisor preston, for bringing this conversation forward today. really appreciate the need to have in-depth analysis of this. thank you, mr. chair. >> chair haney: thank you. and thank you for those thoughtful comments. i know we're going to dig into how to make sure the funding is there and also that this really gets done and we make the acquisitions and improve the operations and the capacity and support the organizations doing the work to make it happen with us. so with that, i'll turn it over to someone who is as

knowledgeable of this program as anyone. and someone i've also worked with for a long time. so i'll pass it over to you, ms. chang. >> thank you, supervisors, for your amazing work and also for being so kind. i am the director of community real estate at mission economic development agency. i'll just quickly bring up my slides and make sure you all can see my slides. perfect. thank you, all, for introducing me. i'm sharing today how the small-site program has grown from a small pilot in 2014 that tenants, rights, activists and nonprofit developers came together to fund to where it is

today. our story is how the program has been able to keep our families in place. supervisors have shared some of these stories and how we're ready to move quickly to grow the program. and why this is such a critical strategy in equitable recovery from the pandemic. based on the legislation passed by activists, meta with the neighborhood center, san francisco land trust partnered with the city of san francisco to devise the small-site program. the program is a targeted approach to keep our most vulnerable neighbors in their long-time homes. it was launched in 2014 as a pilot with only $3 million. meta at the time was a 45-year-old services agency and we stepped up the community calls and launched our real estate program with a small site preservation as a core tool.

meda has purchased 33 buildings. this has kept hundreds of households in place and has kept affordable spaces for non-profits, arts and cultural institutions, family-run businesses. meda was purchasing 6-8 properties per year, including the ones that supervisor safai mentioned. meda is based in district 9, yet over the years, supervisors from other districts have come to meda and asked us to buy these 4 to 25-unit apartment buildings in their neighborhood to harness the power of the small-site program. these are buildings where they knew the tenants were vulnerable to displacement. to date, the city small site

program has over 40 in the portfolio, 350 residential units and 27 commercial spaces. and we can grow this to be more. so how does a nonprofit buying a building off the speculative market transform the future of san francisco from one facing displacement to one where san franciscans can stay. where our workers, our labor, our seniors, our children, our teachers, artists, nurses our in-home child care providers can stay in san francisco. this story speaks for itself. could you play the video? [ ♪♪♪ ] [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish]

meda is also buying buildings across the mission district that are from 4 to 25 units. that's where we're seeing a lot of eviction happening throughout the mission. [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish]

beatrice and time and time again, it's been critical to keeping the families we know, as many of the supervisors know, these are our families in san francisco. this includes chloe, who after nine years in her richmond home

found herself in a scenario that many tenants fear and are faced with. her landlord put her building up for sale and her status was up in the air. but for meda coming and buying her building, she, too, would have called san francisco a former home rather than a current home. so we're ready. meda has refined the program and our own capacity to develop and own in the last six years. and we've been working as a community real estate team to continue purchasing small-sites program, but that takes funding. and while media is proud -- meda is proud to lead in the small-site efforts, at the same time we've developed the capacity as a cohort of non-profits based in neighborhoods so they can also purchase small-site property. we cannot lose the momentum that

we've built. we can do more. as the only program preserving homes for san francisco's -- san franciscans today, anti-displacement has to be the priority. we know as the supervisors have shared that with the end of pandemic, or with the pause from what was happening with the real estate market slowdown, we've seen that now we've ended the eviction moratorium and now is the time more than ever to refund the small-site program as part of the equitable recovery efforts. the pandemic has shown us that affordable and stable housing is more important than ever during this crisis. without our homes, where would we have gone when we had to shelter in place. this crisis is ongoing for many in san francisco.

to date, mohcd has only funded one building for the small-site program in district 11 as supervisor safai has said. these workers have been negatively impacted by the pandemic and they need and deserve equitable recovery. thank you. >> thank you so much for that. and for your work. it's much appreciated and thank you for reminding us the human impact of this when we do it right. and the impact that it can have. can we go to the b.l.a. report? and then public comment. >> thank you, nick menard from the b.l.a. b.l.a. this ordinance would appropriate $123.8 million of the $293.23 million in the fiscal cliff reserve. the appropriation would provide half that amount, $64.1 million

to mohcd, the mayor's office of housing and community development. half that amount to the rent resolution and relief fund. and half that amount, $54.1 million to the housing stability fund both in this year. i want to say something about the reserve that this is drawing from the fiscal cliff reserve. it provides -- intended to provide funding for potential short falls in the general fund after the exhaustion of federal and state stimulus funding starting in the next fiscal year. we don't know whether the shortfalls will occur or how large the shortfalls will be, but this ordinance is consistent with prior policy actions taken by the board of supervisors, but because the appropriation couldn't require future budget adjustments we consider approval to be a policy matter fort board of supervisors. i'm happy to answer any questions.

>> chair haney: thank you. i have some questions, but, supervisor preston, would you prefer we go to public comment now, and then we can jump into our questions about the program itself? >> commissioner preston: that sounds great. >> chair haney: all right. why don't we open this up for public comment. >> clerk: thank you, mr. chair. operations is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item, press star 3 to line up now. for those on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that is your cue to begin your comments. we're working to provide interpretive services for the item.

>> interpreter: [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish]

thank you. >> mr. chair, if you could kindly confirm how much we're allotting for each speaker?

>> chair haney: sorry. one minute each. >> clerk: thank you. mr. adkins, do we have any callers in the queue? >> good morning, my name is sandra. i'm a leader with face faith and action bay area. we're bound by a commitment to winning and ensuring the rights of all the people in our community and the desire to connect us with our civic actions and practices. you have the opportunity today to allocate funds that was intended by the people of san francisco while we approved prop i. faith and action has given strong support to rent subsidies as a means to allow people to remain in their homes. now we see an additional possibility to provide housing stability throughout the city using a model that will provide needed affordable housing. we are called to use all the

creative means possible to ensure that our housed neighbors do not become unhoused neighbors. we support the ordinance being heard today. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. next speaker, please. >> good morning. this is anna. the san francisco tenant union urges the budget committee to support supervisor preston's proposed ordinance allocating $64 million for emergency housing acquisition. as san francisco rents and market trends rebound at an increasing number of rental properties are put on the private market, the city has a rare opportunity to stabilize working-class communities and quickly add at-risk units to our affordable housing stock. this city can prevent

displacement of many hundreds of long-term san franciscans from their homes and guarantee long-term stability by using prop i money to fund an emergency housing acquisition program. and remove housing from the speculative market and permanently preserve units at affordable rents. please act to fund the emergency housing acquisition program. thank you. >> clerk: thank you so much for your comments. mr. adkins, next speaker, please. >> hi, my name is adam. i'm a member of sfmb. i support the resolution. i'm a physician who has to see the terrible health effects for the housing shortage every day that i work in the hospital. last year in covid i was working in the i.c.u. and we had three family members, grandmother, son, his wife all on a breathing machine at the same time. why? because they're crammed in a unit and the nephew worked in the tesla factory and there was

an outbreak and he ended up with family members dying because of it. we need more housing. the understand from the board is that the goal is to have true social housing. that means government-owned, not necessarily owned by non-profits, the idea of having some people paying market rate across subsidized and then generating a revenue stream to make more housing because we're in a housing shortage. and that should be the end goal. not just expansion of the small-site program as it currently exists which is what i think is currently being proposed. but if this is going to be a pilot for something bigger where we can leverage the government to cheaply acquire land and build as much as we can in a way that market rate housing sometimes fails, when there is, you know, economic crises and investment dries up, we lose all our funding for affordable

housing, so we should be investing. so our construction industry can always be thriving. so, thank you for listening and i really hope that this ends moving towards a true social program. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hello, supervisors. my name is rachel. arts and culture administrator. i'm speaking in support of funding emergency housing acquisition program to help stop evictions of our families and elders. there are filipino residents that are imminent risk of displacement and we must do everything we can to keep people in their homes and communities. there are many buildings that are bought and flipped for profit where residents are kicked out by greedy speculators. at 4042 sycamore street in the mission we've been asking the city to purchase the building to

stop the displacement of two multi-generational filipino families who lived in the units over 35 years. a predatory landlord bought the building to empty it and make a quick buck. this would provide funding the emergency housing acquisition program to purchase rental profits. we must support an equitable recovery process by ensuring that our neighbors and families are protected and stable. please support this. >> thank you. thank you so much for your comments. i do apologize if i cut anybody off, but we're timing each speaker, one minute each. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon -- or good morning. this is north beach tenants committee. i'm calling in to ask you to please support this and pass

this as a full recommendation on to the board. we need this money now. i have myself been evicted and i know what that is. i know what it is to be afraid the moment you hear your building is going on the market. and then when you get the notice. here in north beach as well as on the border of district 2, we have three buildings that are in huge, huge risk of losing -- we're losing that affordable housing. we're losing members, long-time members of our communities. please release the funding now so that we can keep people in their homes and keep affordable housing in preservation forever. thank you so much. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hello, my name is tina.

and my grand aunt is 82 years old and has been living in sycamore street in the mission for the last 40 years. she's a matriarch in our family. she and our family living there are currently facing an illicit act of eviction due to a predatory landlord wanting to kick them out and make a quick profit. i'm here to support the program. she has raised three generations of children in her family and her daughter and granddaughters who attend everett middle school and great grandchild all live with her. over the last two years, the aunt and the family have tragically lost family members due to disease. and her eldest daughter suffered a stroke. they are a low-income family struggling to make ends meet and always pay their rent on time. aunty evelyn has built a family bond with people on their

street. they keep the street clean. they cook for each other and take care of each other. everything they need is nearby. >> time is up. thank you so much for your comments. again, i apologize for cutting anybody off, but we're timing each speaker for one minute. next speaker, please. >> hi, my name is chris. i'm associate director of housing. fund the $64 million emergency acquisition program. we have capacity to acquire buildings. we're actively seeking opportunities throughout the city and we're finding a lot of solid opportunities that will prevent displacement of at-risk lower income households. we simply lack the needed funding. this budget approval will help us and other qualified nonprofit

organizations to acquire more properties and preserve them as affordable. without this funding, we don't envision many of these preservation opportunities being funded in the coming year. i want to thank you for your time and consideration on this budget approval thank you for allowing me to speak this morning. >> next speaker, please. >> hello, this is gabe. i'm calling in support, you know, of this resolution. i think it will help the issue with housing. i voted for prop i. i campaigned for prop i. i believe the fund should be used to support housing. if you remember, this ordinance

would make good the promise of prop i funds for the purpose it was intended for. yeah, we need to act right now. especially as people continue to suffer from the covid crisis and we can start this emergency acquisition program off the bat. thanks so much. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hi, this is zachary with young community develop. ycd urges you to fund the housing acquisition program. covid has heavily impacted housing in our city. due to this robust private market, institutional speculators are looking to acquire these units. it's imperative that we add

funds to the housing acquisition fund program and add at-risk units to the stock in the city. the largest barrier is a lack of public funding. this allocation can allow us to keep hundreds of units from hitting the speculative market. [please stand by] [please stand by]

>> clerk: hello, speaker, you are connected. please begin your comments. [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: i will proceed to interpret. good morning, i live on mission street. 4830 mission street apartment 204 and i'm here, i have been living here since i got this house. now i'm not afraid to be evicted. please approve the funds so they

can continue buying buildings. thank you very much. i hope you have a great day. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> caller: hi. i'm a resident of district 8. i fully support using this money for affordable housing. i hope we can move forward quickly as possible. it's crucial that we protect tenants. it's crucial that we build and maintain housing for everybody. not just for the rich in san francisco. i urge this committee and the board to support this legislation without delay. thank you. >> clerk: thank you.

next speaker. >> caller: good morning chair haney. i'm speaking in support of the ordinance that will provide $64 million fund for the emergency funding acquisition program. district 6 think it's the most development than any other neighborhood. many of our families have been live living in unstable housing conditions for years. wealthy disparity in our neighborhood has made our residents at risk of losing their homes more than any other district. i do believe that cost per unit should be taken into consideration. it should be equitable. without taking into consideration the development and the rising cost in our neighborhood, having an equitable cost per unit would

not be fair. will move out our most vulnerable community members. >> clerk: your time has elapsed. thank you for your comment. i do apologize for cutting anybody out. we're timing our speakers to one minute on this item. next speaker please. >> caller: hello. we are to fund $64 million in emergency housing acquisition program to provide doorable -- affordable housing in san

francisco. we have a member who has three jobs. it is vital to keep our city healthy. >> clerk: thank you so much for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: good morning. we are one of the early supporters of prop i in 2020. on behalf of my organization, we are strongly in support of this resolution. so that more families in san francisco working class and all tenants who are being threatened stay in their home. they won't be out on the street.

thank you. >> clerk: thank you so much. next speaker please. >> caller: hello, supervisors. housing acquisition is an extremely important strategy and fight against gentrification and displacement. in the south market, there's two to four unit buildings with residents at risk of eviction. passing this ordinance we can take these buildings off the market and stabilize our communities. housing acquisition is a key

strategy. we ask supervisors to support this ordinance including supervisors who have not co-sponsored yet. thank you so much. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: good morning. [ indiscernible ]

gentrification displaces generations. please pass this ordinance. thank you. >> clerk: next speaker. >> caller: my name is stephen. i'm currently in negotiation to buy every safe sleeping site in the city to construct 12,000 units of housing that i plan to leave empty until amazon builds new headquarters in the bay

view. i'm hurting. if this legislation passes, i'm worried some of my fellow landlords will fall to this effort. threat to landlords anywhere is a threat to landlords everywhere. i urge you to vote no on this appropriation. thank you. >> caller: good morning supervisors. it is peter cohen with the council of community housing organizations. you're hearing from many speakers. i will reinforce that the council on community organization organizations is in

support of this funding for preservation at homes at risk of speculation of sales. this is happening across the city of san francisco. displacement is not just an isolated experience. we've heard from supervisors in every corner of the city as well as folks on the ground of their risk of instability in their housing. this anti-displacement affordable housing program is a citywide value. we also heard earlier at the press conference for this well pointed out, this is a worker issue. displacement and lack of affordable and stable housing for so many of the city's essential workforce is a critical stress and this is a program that will help stabilize housing and provide more housing opportunities for our city's workers. >> clerk: thank you for your

comment. i do apologize for cutting anybody off. we are timing each spheric at -- speaker at one minute. next speaker. >> caller: good morning budget and finance committee. i'm calling in support of this appropriations for $64 million for social housing and to urge you to make social housing funding a regular, annual expenditure. the supervisors supported the resolution last year. not a single dollar was dedicated to social housing in the june budget negotiations. it is especially critical to act now because while covid initially depressed some rents, those are now rebounding making s.f. unaffordable. we have to buy housing off the market before prices go up further. that is why we urge you to move

this ordinance to the full board of supervisors for recommendation. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. >> caller: hi, i'm speaking on behalf of a san francisco bay area coalition that represents nearly 700 public workers to voice our overwhelming support for the emergency housing acquisition program. in addition to what all of other speakers said, i want to highlight some of the health impacts of housing that we e-mailed. the health impacts are widespread and well documented. this is why we hope san francisco leads the way where the epicenter of the housing crises, we want to be epicenter of the leadership on the issue. impacts of housing on health --

[ indiscernible ] research shows that access to housing is inequitably distributed due to race. at the individual level, it can increase panel burden -- financial burdens and increase depression and stress, increase likelihood of moving to substandard housing. >> clerk: we do appreciate your comments. >> caller: good afternoon. i'm the senior research analyst.

it's great there's so many voices speaking in support of this item. our members were hit very hard. in many cases are still reeling from the devastation. they are joined by the tens of thousands of people still struggling to hold ton their housing. these funds will save hundreds of services. on behalf of the working people of the city and thousands of members, we are strongly urge you to move this forward. >> clerk: we do currently have 44 listeners with 30 laned up to speak. we do appreciate your participation and your patience. next speaker, please. >> caller: good morning interviews. my name is jason, i believe that housing is a right to be human right. it needs to be owned, operated

and built by the people and not for wall street speculators. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: good morning. i'm calling in support of supervisor preston's proposal. this investment in line with san francisco's climate emergency plan by investing in house and anti-displacement. as it stands now, without public investment, we risk missing our city's goals for adapting to the climate crises.

i ask the board to echo support for prop i and support this investment in our future. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker. >> caller: good afternoon. i'm with the san francisco housing development corporation. we have seen firsthand the importance of this preservation work, specifically. we completed couple of projects for the small sites program in partnership with metta. we finished a month ahead of schedule and under budget. the work can happen if we have the dollars there to do it. we also have the copa legislation in place. we need the dollars to go along

with it. we urge you to vote yes on this move it to the full board. we need this money for the support reservation work to help low and moderate income people remain in their homes. thank you so much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. >> caller: good morning, supervisors. i'm with the san francisco labor council. i want to bottom line this. i just feel like this is essential to helping every day working san franciscans. it's really simple. you're on the side of speculators or you're on the side of working people and staying in their homes. i think it's heartless -- to do this during this climate and urge you to vote yes and pass this legislation.

>> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: good morning. i work as a lawyer and real estate broker for nonprofit buyers under the small site program and copa. my prior career i spent 20 years litigating on behalf of san francisco tenants. it really is important to fund the small size program. this is a vital part of our city defense against evictions. right now, i think lot of us are aware, there are approximately 20 households in severe risk of evictions. these buildings appear to be good candidates for small sites. it's about people. in the buildings are families, service workers, lots of elderly

and disabled long-term residents. they will be evicted unless we get one or more nonprofit funds to purchase the buildings. small size doesn't just protect the existing tenants. sets aside the units in affordable housing permanently for generations to come. this funds you allocate will be -- [ indiscernible ] >> clerk: i do apologize, we are timing each speaker at one minute. next speaker. >> caller: i'm here to urge passage of this item for the city to acquire small family rental buildings. these are funds collected from prop i and it was passed by the board last year.

nothing could be more appropriate for these funds that are board and voter-mandated. we have a never again window of opportunity, make sure money matches our high ideals for equity, affordable housing and for tenant stability. thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: thanks. i support prop i. i will be surprised if it doesn't pass out of this

committee unanimously. this is a drop in the bucket while it's good and it will help some people, we get our arms around what's happening in our city over decades. you have to figure out a way to stop the amount of mullin that people can make off using land and housing as an investment. it can be done locally. i know this isn't the budget committee. maybe not the appropriate form. i urge you to think about actual solutions because if this is a mandate when we're hemorrhaging. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: i'm with senior and disability action. i strongly support this ordinance.

both for the $64 million for the rental subsidies. it takes a small increase in senior's rent, a senior who's on very low income, social security for her or him to be evicted. it's so important to have rent subsidies. the other $64 million for housing acquisition, it's a no brainer. when we have over 100 buildings in the city that are up for sale, we have to take advantage of this as soon as possible. we should have done it sooner than that. we need to purchase as much as we can and as a prior person said, this is just a drop in the bucket. we need more and more money to do this now. building new housing is wonderful, affordable housing is good but it's so expensive to build housing now. even affordable housing. it makes much more sense tie inquire as many buildings as we can and help the people who are

in those buildings to remain in affordable housing. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: i'm a concerned community member living in the mission. i'm speaking in support of funding emergency housing acquisition program to help stop evictions of our families and elders. there are filipino residents that are at risk of eviction and displacement and both the soma especially on natoma street in the mission. we ask that the city support efforts to stop the displacement of our families with children, seniors and people with disabilities. i hope that the city approves $64 million that will go towards

funding the emergency housing acquisition program to purchase existing rental properties. please support this ordinance. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: good morning. i live in district 6 in support of this measure to finally begin the work of demonstrating that mixed income social housing can be part of san francisco's future. i hope that this can be used for social housing that's publicly owned operating even built. i think this is what lot of us expected that we can do something really new and innovative here. i hope we can do this and demonstrate how the model can work and scale up mixed income social housing by using city resources for new construction.

thank you. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. >> caller: good morning supervisors. i fully support supervisor preston's resolution. the link between real estate speculation and eviction is real. you want to save money and lives, then fund the purchase of existing affordable housing by purchasing build, like the unit on g street which just came on the market. in addition to my paid job as a gardener, i volunteer to help stabilize elders.

we need help. >> clerk: thank you lisa aubrey. thank you for your comments. we are timing each speaker one minute. next speaker please. turn down your tv. >> caller: one second please.

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>> clerk: if you could interpret the last speaker please? >> interpreter: of course. hello supervisors, good afternoon, for prop c, we need for fund to be assigned it was intended back when it was approved by the voters to avoid displacement of more families. we believe that these funds must be used to support supervisor preston's project. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. i do believe there was another speaker on that line? >> caller: yes. i have three more speakers. [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: apologies i was about to ask the speaker to slow down little bit so i can catch the full message. is that all right? [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: i live this district 10. i have experienced being displaced and this is the reason why i am asking that you support supervisor preston's project to help all the families that have put their trust in you and for all the people that are waiting for this project to be approved. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you. >> caller: i have another speaker.

>> interpreter: hello, i live in district 9. as an elderly person, i see that accessible housing is not a reality near san francisco. supervisor preston's project is more of an obligation with our community. you must respect the vote of the people who voted in favor of this proposition and i ask that you do what is morally correct and approve the project.

>> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> caller: good morning supervisors. i'm co-director council organization. it's long time coming when voters pass proposition i to see this money going to its proper uses. one thing i like to add what others said, we shouldn't be here every year with something that should be a dedicated funding stream, $128 million total that's here probably growing to $200 million, that's about $1 billion every five years which will be going straight to saving people's homes, keeping them, providing

stability. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> caller: we've been fight, if the creation and preservation for affordable housing for 40 years. we're strongly in favor of this item. thank you. >> clerk: thank you so much for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: good afternoon. i'm calling to urge your support

to fund the $64 million emergency housing acquisition program. right now, over 100 apartment buildings are on the market. every district in san francisco. that's more than 1000 units for sale housing working families, seniors and other vulnerable households. we have to make sure we're in this fully funded. that's why i'm urging you to support supervisor preston's proposal to allocate $64 million to the housing acquisition fund. this will give on the promise of prop i to use the transfer tax revenue towards solutions for guaranteed long-term housing and

affordability. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: hello. i want to call in support of this ordinance for affordable housing. i'm a lived experience when i was a kid living in motel. long-term, i would like to see housing production. to bring back and keep our minority communities not being

displaced. that's a different topic for sure. i'm calling in support of this ordinance for rent relief for housing. have a great day. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: hello, supervisors. i am a proud member of local 21. i'm a disaster service worker for the city and an employee of the city's human rights commission. i'm calling with strong support for this measure. i thank supervisor preston for his leadership on this preservation measure of housing. it's so essential. this is something that has been called for many years in reports through the city. i have sent a letter.

i echo the call many of the commenters today. i want to also point out that our city has been identified as the most intensely gentrified in america between 2013 and 2017. we have had exodus of cities black and african-american population for decades. we need to invest in our workers. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker please.

>> caller: [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: hello, i am a leader in axion. i live in district 5. during this pandemic, i was sadly displaced. i have two children who are minors and currently i am living in a hotel. as a mother, i see in this plan by supervisor preston a lot of hope for families who are also afraid of being evicted or displaced. this is also affecting our children's mental health. i ask that you do the right thing for all our families. thank you very much. >> clerk: i believe there's one more speaker on that line?

>> caller: yes, i have three more speakers. thank you. [speaking spanish] >> interpreter: i will proceed to interpret what the caller just said. hello. i am a leader in faith and

axion. i go to the church in district 5. we need for this acquisition plan that supervisor preston is proposing to be approved. it is not fair for people to be evicted. these are houses that our children were born and grew up in. we ask that the plan be approved so that the families can stay in their homes. >> caller: [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: hello. i go to san carlos church and i live in district 9. we need for these funds to be used in the way that they were initially approved by the voters to avoid families being displaced. we need affordable housing to be supported. we also need for the funds to be used in the way that supervisor preston had proposed and we ask

that you do what is morally right to avoid these families from being evicted. thank you very much. >> caller: [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: i will proceed to interpret. good afternoon supervisors. i'm from district 11. i'm here to support supervisor dean preston. the worst virus we can have is indifference towards our community. during this pandemic, i suffered from being displaced. i do not want other people to go through this as well. please support supervisor dean preston and try to give our community affordable housing so they can live with dignity. i hope this touches your heart and you do the right thing. thank you very much.

>> clerk: thank you. i believe that was the last speaker on that line? >> caller: one more speaker please. [speaking spanish]

we have two more speakers if it's possible. >> interpreter: i will proceed and interpret. good afternoon, i am a leader in president off the board of axion. i'm calling in support of this proposition hoping that it passes so that it can become a reality for low income families to be able to stay in their homes and not be evicted. lot of families have been displaced during the pandemic due to their high cost of rent. supervisor preston, we leave it in your hands. we hope that god blesses you and that the funds can be allocated for for the project.

may god bless you. thank you very much. >> caller: [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: good afternoon, i live in district 9, i go to san antonio church. i am a senior citizen and i live with the threat of being evicted from my home. i have been trying to get housing through the lottery for years. this plan will help senior certain -- citizens and families stay in their homes. please respect our vote. we hope that you do the right thing. thank you very much. >> caller: [speaking spanish]

>> interpreter: good afternoon. i am 78 years old. i need for you to give us housing, affordable housing that is also on a lower first floor. i am a leader in axion, i hope that god touches your heart and you can provide us with affordable housing. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you so much. just update, we still have 31 listeners and 16 lined up to speak. we do appreciate your patience and your participation.

next speaker please. >> caller: hi. i'm calling to support the measure. we know that without this project allocation there will be no more preservation projects. this means san francisco should brace itself for the huge waves of displacement as unemployment benefits run out. we at the land trust we purchased a property in district 2. we heard from the tenants at the press conference.

we cannot act on this property. there isn't enough subsidy to make it financially work. because of subsidy limits set by the government to make the projects feasible under the rules mandated by the mohcd loan agreement. we will be able to protect smaller buildings. >> clerk: next speaker please. >> caller: good afternoon supervisors. i'm speaking in support of funding the emergency housing

acquisition program to help stop evictions of our families. the development of community has been targeted from displacement. which started decades ago. we must do everything we can to keep people in their homes in our communities. the community has been fighting to prevent this. we have been asking that you purchase building to stop the displacement. filipino family who lived there for over 35 years. >> clerk: your time as expired. thank you.

next speaker please. >> caller: hello, supervisors. chair haney, supervisor preston and safai. i'm connie ford. as our leader stated, the san francisco labor council urges all supervisors to support this very valuable housing initiative. we as at the labor council have released housing our workers report.

only seven percent of us can stay and afford market rate housing. meanwhile, 40% of us have been forced out because we can't afford to live it. we put it under the framework for ways to move forward, protect the communities, preserve the existing housing and produce new housing. we have realized over just the last couple of days -- >> clerk: your time has expired. thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> caller: hello, supervisors. i'm speaking in support of funding the emergency housing acquisition program to help stop eviction of our families. there are filipino residents are at risk of displacement. we must do everything we can to keep people in their homes. so much especially on the natoma

street, there's many buildings that are being bought and flipped for profit. residents being kicked out by greedy speculators. these residents have been here for generations. at sycamore street, we have been asking the city to purchase this building to stop the displacement of displacement of filipino families. covid has devastated working class and bipoc communities. we must support equitable recovery by ensuring families are protected and stable. please support this ordinance. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> caller: i'm calling on behalf of community tenant association and chinatown and urging support for this measure.

the critical needs for this funding has been well described by previous speakers. outside this hearing we heard questions raised by the capacity to utilize the funding in time. those questions about capacity are not well founded. as you heard today, other nonprofit housing developers are ready to go to take off housing off the market and protect tenants from displacement. the need is clear and the capacity is standing by. in order to build capacity, the city needs to invest in that capacity. please preview in -- please approve this proposal today. next speaker please. >> caller: hello. i'm calling from district 8 in san francisco. i'm calling to support the appropriations for $64 million

for social housing and rent relief. i want to say that i'm so tired. we've been advocating for this for years. many people who already spoken of advocating for this for decades. getting housing off the speculative market. housing is a human right. we passed prop k and prop i over a year ago and we still have come back and implore supervisors to continue passing these appropriations because we don't have a steady income stream. we need to create a program that sustains buying and taking housing off the market over the long-term and to put it in the public trust as well. not only should we do it for nonprofit housing as this appropriations does, we should do it for public housing. which has been in short supply for decades. i support this appropriation. i hope it passes.

thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> caller: hello, supervisors. i joined the many voices calling you today to immediately approve supervisor preston's proposal to release $64 million from the overwhelmingly supported prop i money to fund an emergency housing acquisition program. i council tenants. i listen to traumatized tenants with almost unimaginable stories. for example, immediately after the eviction moratorium was lifted, tenant parking space rental went from $100 to $500 a month. we need to move quickly in this time of emergency. thank you.

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we can save the homes of more than 300 families. our city is facing an eviction crisis in the wake of the pandemic and providing

housing through the acquisition program can start to address this crisis. public housing must be at the forefront then. >> thank you so much for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hello. my name is rick gerley. i'm a retired teacher. i taught economics for 30 years and i'm a member of the [inaudible]. i voted for proposition i. i support the call for $64 million in immediate funding. i lived in san francisco for 45 years. when i first moved here, san francisco used to be favorly compared to european cities. that is no longer true. european cities have plentiful, social housing with virtually no

homelessness. san francisco does not. please rectify that situation and begin appropriating sufficient funds to provide housing to people who live in san francisco and particularly working class people in san francisco that will do the work that makes this city run. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. corey smith on behalf of the housing action coalition speaking in support. we have been big fans of these small sites programs since 2014. we see it as another tool in the tool belt to deliver housing at all levels of affordability. i do want to point out that the buildings that we're discussing purchasing here are market rate apartment buildings and legalizing those types of buildings across all of san francisco

is a way to ensure this type of program can be successful going forward. thank you. inger >> thank you for your comments, corey smith. next speaker, please. >> caller: i appreciate those supporting this ordinance. i'm a rent earp of 30 years and voted to approve prop-i. there are dozens of multifamily buildings up for sale every month that this funding would prevent displacement in perpetuity. thank you, supervisors, and supervisor peskin for bringing this forward and for your positivity on this important action and the voters [inaudible] for support increasing affordable housing in the city. urge your support and i vote and forward out of committee for the full board. thank you.

>> caller: hello. i'm organized on the southeast of association and calling to support proposition-i. they have been working hard because we want to make sure that our families are evicted. they did not ask to lose their jobs. they're hard-working people and we need to make sure that i that ear not displaced from their home. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. mr. akins, next speaker, please. >> caller: good afternoon. i live in district 5. i support this position. [audio is garbled]

so i think what we should be doing in the long-term is what the city of berkeley is doing and [inaudible] past legislation to [inaudible] long-term [inaudible] and i support this resolution now. thank you. >> thank you, robert, for your comments. next speaker, please. >> caller: hi. my name is paul. and i'm a tenant in a building in district 8 on 19th street. and my building is being [inaudible] so i'm calling in

support of the [inaudible] to fund the acquisition program because it's a 12-unit rent controlled building and we're the perfect site for an acquisition and [inaudible] release of that money because we're urgently in need of help. we need, you know, to keep san francisco housing affordable and keep rent control buildings like ours affordable and not converted to unaffordable housing by speculators. so, i'm urging the passage of this measure. thank you.

>> reporter: e >> thank you so much for your comments. next speaker, plea. >> caller: my name is maria meyer. i'm calling you from my apartment in district 2. my husband and i are in our mid 70s. there is another senior in the apartment building in their mid 70s. and there are service workers in one of the apartments in our building. i'm calling to ask support funding for small sites. having seniors in our city is very important and it is culturally important that san francisco doesn't become a distaupian city of contract workers. seniors are needed, seniors of all levels of income. i ask that you support the release of the funding so we can remain in the city. thank you for the opportunity to speak. >> thank you for your comments. i do believe that we're down to our last couple of speakers. next speaker, please.

>> caller: good afternoon. my name is claudia. i'm the principal of a school that you've supported time and again and i'm so grateful for that support. today i'm calling been behalf of my neighbors. they're working class people and people of color. and they're local union workers, central workers, people providing services that are important to their immediate community. but their landlord is selling and we know that the prime target [inaudible] by someone looking to make a profit. supervisors, please acknowledge that we have an opportunity to say no more ousting of our people of color because they can hang on because they live in rent-controlled buildings. we have the funds to do it so please let's do it. thank you. >> thank you, claudia.

mr. akins, next speaker, please. >> reporter: good afternoon, supervisors. i'm a resident of district six and, as many, many speakers have already pointed out, this measure -- this ordinance is desperately needed, this program is desperately needed. we are facing a wave of evictions and displacement, suffering and homelessness due to the covid-19 crisis. and its rollout. and it is a first step toward stemming that and preserving currently rent-controlled units for -- as permanently affordable units, for the residents of san francisco. please, i urge you to approve this ordinance and send it ons to the full board. thank you so much.

>> i do believe that was our last speaker. can you confirm? operator: there are no further callers in the queue. >> thank you very much. mr. chair? >> thank you. public comment is now closed. thank you so much to all of the callers for your advocacy and commitment to affordability and anti displacement efforts. i want to welcome back supervisor marr. colleagues? [inaudible]. >> yeah, thank you. i just wanted to make some brief comments. first of all, i really want to thank supervisor peskin and the housing stability fund oversight committee for

bringing this $64 million budget proposal forward to support the emergency acquisition of small apartment buildings to prevent displacement of vulnerable tenants and we will be [inaudible] buildings from the executive market and permanently affordable housing and thanks to all of the community housing advocates for coming in to emphasize the extreme urgency of this funding appropriatation and as everyone has so eloquently conveyed, the program is one of the most innovative and important strategies we've created to prevent displacement and create affordable housing and it's that kind of regional level, the recently updated area 30-year regional plan now includes this strategy of -- as one of the key strategies regionally to preserve affordable housing and prevent displacement. so, san francisco's really been leading the way on this.

and -- but the biggest barrier to acquisition or preservation converting these buildings to affordable housing has been a lack of resources. in 2019, the board did what they -- was able to appropriate $40 million for the small-sized acquisition program and really, because of that, we were able to -- i was able to work with the mayor's office of housing and that is going to move the sunset district and prevented the displacement of mostly low-income, elderly tenants and immigrant chinese tenants as well and we were able to support meta to do another small-sized acquisition shortly after that. but as people, as has been highlighted, it's lacked enough resources over the past year and yet we see

there is an urgency to move forward more aggressively with acquisitions in the current moment as we come out of the pandemic. so many tenants vulnerable to displacement. so, i'm happy to co-sponsor this and thank supervisor preston and all the housing advocates for your work on this. this measure. and look forward to continuing to fully resource and support acquisitions and social housing innovation in the future. thank you. >> thank you. questions, commentses? >> yeah. i would like to, i think, director shaw is here today. if we can call him up. i have some questions for him. i want to give him an opportunity to talk about the small sites program. director shaw, are you with us today? >> i am. i'm in the office, too. hello.

>> good to see you, sir. >> good to see you as well. >> so, thanks for joining us. i want to give you the opportunity to talk about the program. i think one of things that i noticed is that we definitely need a reboot of this program. i think that in the past when we tried to contact or work with additional nonprofits, the capacity or desire wasn't there. outside of meta. can you talk about the scope of nonprofits that have participated in this program, the capacity that's there and then existing dollars that are there and how you see this situation being dealt with and kind of reboot dealt with and then potentially also -- i'm sorry. i know you'll be able to answer all of this because it is in a larger context.

in how the housing accelerator fund and what role they have to play and what resources they have to bring to the table as part of the reboot conversation. >> i think for all of you, i know chair haney's popped off the screen, i just want to note and particularly hearing the comments from faith in action and those speakers there, i just want to note once again that we've been working really hard to ensure that our community partners are informing everyone around interdisplacement and the fact that we're hearing that tenants are displaced is a fundamental flag me right now and i talked to my head on our evictions defense antenanlts right to counsel to reach out to faith inaction about this. once again, that is a flag for me because we worked really hard to make sure that emergency rental assistance is taken care of and that all of our anti-eviction protocols are in place. i want to put that on the record. i know that is not the subject of this. but that really is -- those

comments really cause me pause and really want to make sure that we're working with our partners to meet these folks where they are right now. the second spaoes that we've been doing a lot of -- there's been a lot of conversations happening with the houses right now. and significant amount of money that went into capacity building for the hiring of staff and also for the studying of what needs to happen with this program and that work is under way and we've seen initial draft of that study that was done and refined right now through the housing accelerator fund. to make us understand the submarkets and different type housing [inaudible] and underline extra edge tooic priorities of different houser, to make sure that we have a responsive program and to make sure that we're getting to meet the preservation goals. i do want to note that i -- everyone keeps saying acquisition. the small-sites program --

acquisition is one part of that program. the goal of that program is to ensure the long-term sustainability of affordability, the operations, that's quality housing as well and so i just really want to let the community know and you all know that when we talk about this issue of capacity, it's not can we give money to buy a building. it's can we underwrite that building to make sure that operations work. can we make sure they're resetting rents and making sure that we're meeting the needs of existing tenants and understanding those -- and understanding the -- what needs to take for the other properties when they have vacancis that come there. it's the alignment with dahlia. it's a lot of understanding of how that asset and the management of thats aet? s perpetuity. for the community as a whole, and for you all as we think about the distribution of these resources and we talk about concerns around capacity, it is not on how quickly we can buy buildings. it is house we can make sure

we have quality housing and long-term affordability. i just want to know that there may be a mismatch in that narrative but i want to let you know that, for us, we think about this. that is the goal of the small sites program. i just want to put that for the record. but we have been in conversations for the past year with the housers in additions to that and they procured the study in addition to that which will be coming out shortly and understanding how to make responsive recommendations looking at unique partnerships in other ways to make sure that this program is meeting the needs of tenants. i i think talked to all the supervisors myself personally in my regular check-ins around the need for greater geographic equity as it talked terms for the investment of these funds and understands the different ownership methods that are there and then really understanding when a project does or doesn't pencil out, and what we can do as an

alternative if there is a certain right size of project that ensures the goal of affordability and long-term operations and long-term sustainability of that. i've been in this job now for, i believe, 19 months and for 18 months and 29 days, this has been a topic that i worked on with a personal commitment. i will say, just one last thing on capacity, and we share this with all of you, there's been staff turnover at mocd and particularly our small sites. the director has left to go to enterprise. we know that there's been turnover and hiring at our other housing partners as well and trying to make sure that when we say capacity, is there the -- is there capacity in terms of staffing when we know our other partners are staffing up to

make this happen? and then very, very last thing, i apologize for that, you did [inaudible] with these resources, too, when we talk about long-term sustainability, some of our resources have not gotten to acquisitions but they have gotten into refinancing. we have projects acquired years ago that have to be refinanced and need improvements that were purchased without the needed improvements in some instances of elevators or accommodation for seniors or those kinds of things. and so while the numbers may not show that we've acquired a number of buildings, we call them workouts because there's a significant number of workouts which are actively working out seven propertis with meta. we've been doing some refinance and recapitalization with ccdc, which is a partner there. so, the resources that are at play are not just for acquisition in our instance, but also, as we said,

ensuring the long-term sustainability operations and inhabitsability of the propertis that exist within our portfolio now. and so i sound like a technocrat but that is the phase that we're coming at right now when we say are the resources there to be utilized. but we are working actively to make sure that we have responsive programs, that we're working to make sure that we're being strategic in the acquisitions that we do and making sure to leverage of the policy tools we have including eviction defense and tenant rights. that was a lot. i apologize. >> no. no. no my question was a lot. i have a little bit more. we've heard a lot of really important public testimony today but what is in front of us is we're trying to balance the question of currently we have x amount, almost $300

million in reserves and this is a request of $46 million and trying to get at what capacity is there, what would be helpful now and how we can proceed if it sounds like there is consensuss that there needs to be a genre boot. so, one question that i have would be how many current housing partners and nonprofit partners either have the capacity or are able to participate today. in acquisition and operation and oversight of this program because i know that when i -- when we originally did the deal in my district, there were a lot of housing partners that were just not interested in this program. for whatever reason. either it was, as to your point, not necessarily about buying the property, i was about once the property is purchased, about what kind of energy effort and oversight does it take from their organization to operate and

ensure the success of that. so, at the time it was only meta and then it's expanded to sfhgc and, as i understand it, meta is currently under a pause with your organization so who actually has capacity right now or is authorized to do this work today. >> i believe all of our qualified nonprofit partners are eligible to nunsing this capacity. once again, the question that i continue to ask with the housing partners is less on the capacity side, which i think is still real, so the first piece is there's a larger universe than what is being communicated. i think meta -- i want to thank caroline and her and louise have met up as strong leaders in getting out here. i think supervisor haney knows that there's been a lot of conversations for sites there of, like, how to appropriately match strategic

goals of organizations, resource of organizations and capacity. i think the way this program has work in the past is that a community organization that a tenant or supervisor in this instance has called meta and says, hey, here comes the deal. we need to work this out, versus the back of really understanding the due diligence of the property and understanding the organizing needs that happen around engagement and understanding some of those other pieces. so, we've tried to just aggregate now the property need and acquisition need to strategic priorities of our partners and how they're able to implement. and since i will tell you that, at least for right now and this has been correct, that it is public that meta right now is not able to receive additional financing from mocd because we're prioritizing the workouts of existing properties. we've seen unique

partnerships come up now with shgct for bringing always nonprofit partner in this. and we're seeing some new proposals coming from partnerships around not just acquisition but on tax abatement as a way to be this. but people are coming with unique ideas on how to support this through and support acquisitions and affordability and working on with them as part of our strategic development process. we will look at the organization and the deal and right now we look at acquisition costs and rehab costs, we look at asset management costs as part of this. and so we look at each of these independently and we'll work with the housers that have brought them to us. and if they bring it to us, how to best align with those at half capacity.

that was a long toons that, but that is what we're at right now. but i think the narrative around there not being capacity has also been tied to the fact that one of our largest partners in small sites is focusing -- we've asked them to focus on the recapitalization of the properties right now versus acquisitions. the concern right now is we want to make sures that there's long-term sustainability of the ecosystem as well and that's why we've continued to invest in their capacity as well. for each of our organizations. they've received direct funding for capacity building from our organization. >> i guess my question will be frame ad lib differently. if we look at that map that was put up by meta about all the small sites tan 300-plus units, i think they were the major driver with you. >> right. >> and if they're on pause, is there -- it is not necessarily that we can't get there with capacity. it's just my concern is i think what we heard today and

i think you responded with this, is that we have a displacement urgency, right? there is an urgency to say people are potentially being evicted and then our biggest partner is on pause and so sounds like there's work that needs to be done. not to say that we can't get there. so if we -- you know, whatever number ends up beinging the final number that's allocated for this program, talk to me about that. how quickly does that money move? and i know that currently we allocated, this committee allocated as part of the work with the mayor's office, $10 million into account. i understands that that money hasn't been spent yet. so there's $10 million there. is there any additional money

that oecd has for this program, not including the request for the $64 million today. >> we have some covid contingencies. resources were allocated to -- excuse me -- were allocated to some covid response as we said once again. we change the residual receipts policy. there's a resource there. and our team sits ton oversight board and we've been trying to get clarity

with social housing and the definition of that. and we also have been vetting, proposals have been coming from supervisors as well. so, as i've shared with you all, the priority of about $10 million is making sure that we exercise geographic equities. our districts were looking to expand that to -- towards supervisor mar has shared and stefani has shared some spaces. we are looking to make sure that we are executing the strategies that we can initially. but what we get from the study that is going to be coming to me within the next month or two to make sure that we can do that. that is lot of learnings right now. covid is an odd time. there is a lot of resources that are there and we're making sure that we're spending the money responsibly and making sure that we're using this as a strategic tool within the tool box of all the other spaces we have around

anti-displacement in the city. >> i don't think i heard -- maybe i didn't frame the question properly. $10 million is there. is there any additional dollars that mocd has right now? >> they have commited to either existing processes or projects or to workouts right now or in anticipation, as we know, of the $10 million of what has been shared from different supervisors and good community groups in our own assessment with properties at risk. there was one property that was shared by supervisor mar that is actually at $9 million. it's a strong project right now but that would absorb a large portion of this. but it meets the geographic equity goals and spaces that are trying to provide the appropriate balance. >> and anyway -- so how

quickly if we were to, if we were to move on whatever the dollar amount is, what do you envision the process with the reboot and the housing accelerator fund and how quickly could that move? because it seems like a lot of sense of urgency in terms of acquisition and then moving toward capacity and moving toward [inaudible]. >> i think that is a good question. we're working in tandem in all of those things. we're trying to make sure that it's not this, and this and this. we're making sure that we take care of opportunities there. this will depend on underwriting and really making sure that, as we sort of vet these deals thats are nonprofit partners are also coming with us as working in tandem to make sure that we're getting all the information we need to make

sure that there's two things that happen. small sites still requires engagement of the te gnats with the vote to accept being purchased. and that also includes conversation and education and the second piece of that will be to continue writing this to an appropriate per unit costs. a lot of this in the end will require the appropriate engagement with tenant, the buy-in from tenant. and then the underwriting of the deal in terms of making sure that it pencils out. i believe that the emphasis has taken a while and supervisor haney can note to one of the deals that has taken a year. i think it will be the ability of them and to us to

appropriately underwrite the deal and appropriately do the resident engagement. so, that's contingent upon that process. but that does not happen in a month and if it doesn't happen in a year, and we're working closely now to make sure that we're being responsive to shorten that time as much as possible. >> you're on mute. >> this electoral college my last question for you, unless colleagues pass it off. and then i have some questions for the controller. but can you clarify one last time in terms of work that you are doing with the housing accelerator fund to look at the reboot of this program and come back and talk about it, its better success working with our housing partners? when do you anticipate that being prepared and presented to the board?

>> it's in draft form right now. and we are anticipating sort of a final within the next 45 to 60 days. right now, we are scheduling, i believe, we are talking about the housers around the next round of strategic conversations around regulations and we made sure that the system will be put on the next agenda item to talk through the findings from the housing accelerator fund with the housers to really test what's being learned right now. from there. so i've seen some of the initial findings from that. but that is not a final report that we anticipate within the next 45 to 60 days. >> so, the only thing i'll end with, director shaw, and we've had these conversations before, it sounds like we have some additional capacity that we're trying to build in with additional housing partners.

it sits on a pause. so hopefully that pause can get resolved. i know they haired additional staff and they have been working with your office and trying to work that out. it seems as though as soon as that's resolved, then we'll add additional capacity and support for this program, which i think is a really important thing. so hopefully that is part of the overall goal. and then sounds like we have $10 million and then we have a plan that will be presented to this body about how that can be put out there to do acquisitions and the long-term success of this program, which i think is really important because we certainly woulden want to allocate money and then have money sit there and not be utilized because we don't have the right partners in place or the right program in place. so i appreciate you answering my rapid fire 10-page-long questions. any additional members have

questions, then i wanted to call up our controller after you all talk with director shaw. >> i appreciate that. i know there are things that we need to do to make sure that we build capacity and are able to get this money out the door. i do want to say, though, it does seem to me that at least part of the challenge is how much we have in funds that are available. because if we're putting organizations in the position where they're going to take a loss on this or they need additional support with capacity, that does seem to be no question that they have adequate funds to provide for them. so wouldn't it make sense? this case that we're thinking of how to get thee funds out of the door, having more fun?

and having additional funds that you can provide the actual level of support that our partners need to be able to perform these functions. it seems to me in my conversation with a lot of the providers and potential providers, that that's their experience. that it's a question of how much they're being offered to secure these deals with us. >> yes. i think there's [inaudible]. this is part of [inaudible] on the strategic review that's happening with the developer fee. right? so all of these develop -- all these providers receive a developer fee. and some said that they received supplemental funding to acquire and pay for staff right now.

so i think more money for program may create some more certainty. right? but i think we've been hearing from the community and knowing from sort of how around acquisition of sites coming. the copa requests the amount of resources to buy every building aren't on a line and the infrastructure of both the city and the nonprofits by every building that comes online. i think that is why we're also working once again to make sure that organizations are working with their strategic missions right now. and strategic geographis that we're working with you all as supervisors around your priorities. and really making sure that when the money is extended, it is targeted directly with what we need to do. but we all get asked for

properties and, in that instance, i think that the ask from the community, the resources available and the capacity of the city and our nonprofit partners are just not alignment right now and that's what we're doing with the extra edge tooic review and working on the updated regulations. so, i mean, this money may allow for the acquisition of more buildings at some point. once again, not just the acquisition but the underwriting and the long-term operational sustainability programs -- of the buildings. >> got it. ok. yeah. hopefully with these additional funds that we're going to allocate for you that helps with all of those things. can you tell us a bit more about the status of the pause with meta. it seems like meta was the

biggest partner on this effort and was responsible for a lot of the acquisitions and we now have a pause with them. which seemed like they would like to have listed and work with us on this again. can you tell us the status of that pause and when we would move forward to work with them. we decided that they weren't going to do it anymore and then we've had a hard time finding others to do it. are we planning to begin to work with them again on this? >> yes. we've been committed to devoting as much resources and fines possible to help them in the workouts. i've just seen some back and forth now. there's seven propertis that need to be recapitalized. we proposed even additional, you know, possibly additional resources to support that. we've supported them in the repurposing of some of their capacity building money to hire a consult nanlts that

kind of space. and we've also commited to making sure that we can align any reviews such as marketing plans for that. those are in process. and it really is -- we've been working with mocd to be as responsive as possible to any requests that comes from meta. i think that we are finally in sync on the back and forth on what it needs to complete these workouts. but i'm not sure the timing. we asked meta to reset the timings for themselves on when they thought these could be completed and i heard anywhere between january and [inaudible]. but that is from us asking, you know, the leadership team at meta about how quickly they think they can get the information to us, for us to finalize the reviews. >> so it sounds like we are committed to working together

to begin to have them play this role. >> yes, sir. >> ok. great to hear. >> i just -- real quick. we have had a number of productive conversation as part of this strategic review with all of our housing partners. i personally talked to all the housers with this supervisor. we need to make sure that we're being responsive and flexible and bring folks to the table and make sure that we have a full ecosystem that are for notice patesinging in this. -- participating in this. w*e it's also more houses at the table to be able to expend these funds and more information and more flexibility to make sure that we can get these deals done

faster. >> great. i understand definitely having more houses at the table also feels that particularly in the interim, there's money that's set aside and we have buildings that we have urgency around and meta is one organization that has done this that has the capacity and scale that we should be doing everything we can to make it happen. and obviously, you know, who we work with specifically, is not something that we determined here at the board. you know, i think that we don't want to have that be a source of the delay and obviously you don'ts this without partners who are [inaudible] and want to do it. supervisor mar? >> thank you, chair haney. thank you so much, director shaw, for this discussion

about the small pipes program and all of your work and the mocd staff on this incredibly important strategy. i appreciate the work that is happening right now just to -- to do a more thorough evaluation of this strategy and to build the capacity of the nonprofit housing partners and to update the guidelines for small sites program. that's all very needed. but i think at the same time, i think to me and certainly everyone that's engaged in this hearing today, the importance of this program and the need for more resources is just very clear. you know, especially at this moment to prevent displacement and that are expected to be pretty widespread and to preserve

rent-controlled housing and create permanently affordable housing. i had a question about the -- or about the points you were making about the $10 million housing innovation fund that the board put into the budget as an add-back and [inaudible] >> those are two different. >> sorry. i wasn't referring to the chair. i wasn't refering to the innovation fund. last spring, during the supplemental, the early surplus funding, we put $30 million a side. $10 million for rents relief and $10 million for housing and that money is sitting there. i was refering to the $10 million of housing. not the innovation fund, which was completely about home purchasing. so, sorry to interrupt. i'm sorry i wasn't clear on that. >> no. that was the question i had. i was a little confused. and so i thank you for the clarification. yeah.

the housing innovation fund is supposed to be for sort of new -- newer strategis that we're not currently doing, including what i introduced yesterday about the developments and program for homeowners would be a new way to create affordable family housing in our single family neighborhoods. but we still have the $10 million that was set aside for -- >> that's correct, sir. and we're work on both. >> ok. thank you, director shaw. >> supervisor preston? >> thank you, chair haney. and i just have some comments in response to some of the issues that has been raised. but i do know that caroline from meta is back with us and through the chair.

wondering if you could shed any light on the issues that were being discussed around what i think was termed the pause on meta and how quickly meta might be in a position to move forward on further acquisitions. >> thank you for including me back in the conversation. wanting to share that during the course of the pandemic, meta has seen that our buildings have had the chance and challenges that we see across san francisco. our tenants had back rents because they lost their jobs. we also saw tenants who had to leave because of the high rent that some of the tenants were paying because we -- the business program, as you know, takes a mix of tenants paying higher rents as well

as lower rens off the private market. with those losses, we taked mocd and put that debt into what we call forebearance. the cause is something that currently mocd is requiring while we are working through the workout for seven buildings. seven buildings with only 30-plus units out of a total portfolio of 280 units that meta owns. mocd is asking us to put this pause on. we have capacity. we just hired another four staff to manage these assets because of the assessment that mocd asked us to increase our capacity and make sure that we're managing for some of the challenges that it takes to make sure that our tenants are paying rent on time and we're keeping them in place. ours focus, unfortunately, during the pandemic has shifted. unfortunately to keeping our tenants in place. and so with the recovery happening, we still have the same staff. our staff are ready to buy more buildings and we have

now an asset management staff that are ready to own and manage these buildings in the stable manner that what we want to make sure that we can now that we had the learnings from the pandemic and we're still working with multiple nonprofits. >> thank you. and just as a follow-up, what is the estimate of the total amount of money that this was all about. we spent such time in this committee talking about the pause and you explained the circumstances. what is the total amount? >> yeah. what we are -- through the workout process with mocd, what we're agreing to with them is about $3.5 million of additional financing that they would be putting to reduce the current debt that we have on the properties. >> thank you. so i did just want to -- obviously a lot of issues

that have been raised. and i -- i just -- you know, a few comments. first of all, i just want to say what i think is a fairly obvious point. property acquisitions do not happen without money. and the house is not just meta but we heard from h.d.c. calling in and director shaw pointing out that there's qualifying nonprofits in this program are eligible to do this. right? they're the folks who will ramp up with additional nonprofits that want to jump in as well. you know, they'll be welcomed, too. so, you know, none of this happens without the money to scale up and acquire these properties. and fundamentally, that's what this appropriate jaysing about. -- appropriation is about. is there going to be the resources to do this or not?

i think everyone can agree that, as we ramp this up, and when i say "everyone," i'm talking about director shaw and his team. i'm talking about all the supervisors that i discussed this with. all the housers. no one is saying the program is perfect and does not require tweaks. as director shaw says, there's been years of discussion around this. but there's been some urgency around it and part of that is is because there isn't money in the fund to buy these blls. if you point out the conversations that have been ongoing with the housers, my understanding is that working group, the last time they met was in april. there was no sense of urgency or was not, frankly, until this started moving forward. so, working out what are important issues but relatively minor in terms of

their go-no go issues. and that is how much money we have in the bank to finance them. so, you know, i welcome an ongoing conversation. i know some of my colleagues, you know, welcome this as well. to continue working out some of the details that director shaw referenced including how you get greater geographical equity. looking at the per unit costs, especially if we have $64 million fund. is there a justification for going higher per unit to prevent displacement in certain circumstances? and so on. right? those are the discussions that we all should be having. but i just want to be really clear that none of those conversations are reasons not to fund this program. let's make it succeed and work together to do that. also couple of other points because they came up. appreciate the supervisor's reference to the reserve and the amount of reserve that i just want to clarify for the public. there was a reference to the

reserves just under $300 million. that specifically is in covid contingency reserves. not our overall reserve. i just want to be clear. that is where these funds come from. they are investing to prevent pandemic-related displacement. they are not even touching our city's economic stabilization reserves, currently at about $380 million across the board. the city right now has $200 million in reserves. this supplemental is less than 2% of those total reserves and last thing is the other thing that has come

up is this $10 million. and thank you for raising this and also director shaw for clarifying around the $10 million. so, that is correct that $10 million was approved by the committee and supervisors for the housing stability fund and any notion that those funds were sitting there in the months, because of the inabilities to use them out in the field. that is not the case. we passed an ordinance creating a housing stability fund oversight board, we -- we put in the legislation that will hold its inaugural meeting within 90 days of that ordinance. the administration's delays did not allow the body to

meet until 253 days after the passage of that law. not the 90 days. i appreciate director shaw's pointed [inaudible] to that body who has been a valuable participant and they have met three times and really with amazing urgency have come up with this recommended expenditure plan. that just happened within the last two weeks. that is the first direction of how to use those funds. so, that body is acting with urgency and asking up to as well. that is the only reason that $10 million has not gotten out the door. this appropriation would add to that fund for small sites acquisitions.

at the appropriate time, chair haney, happy to make or propose the applicable notion. you're on mute. >> every time i get back on i'm on mute. i think this is an important part of the conversation. but before -- if she is not ready, be ever she does that, i don't know -- director shaw, did you want to respond

to ?ig did you want to make a last comment before we get into the weeds on the conversation around the reserves and the budget reserves and how it impacts our decision here today? >> yes. once again, i feel the sense of urgency as well and we're deeply commited to ensuring that we have a sustainable program with partners who have the capacity and means and diverse set of partners who meet the targeted needs of our communities. that's why we're untaking the strategic process and why we're doing the review. and i feel the sense of urgency but still in making sure that we're doing the necessary organizing, that we have the financial stability of our partners, but we are sort of making sure that we have the timing and for our staff and for those, you know, i will say that we will

continue to -- struggle is not the right word. but we want to make sure that we're getting the resources out strategically and the acquisition of our properties, those partners and that is what we're doing with that kind of work right now. in that instance, we're commited to the success of this program. but that doesn't happen overnight. and we're doing the work to make sure that that can happen and really trying our best with all of our tools to meet needs of residents. so, i mean, that is where we are right now. >> ok. great. and then -- i see caroline. did you want to make a last comments before we move on to the -- into the reserves and monetary weeds? >> thank you. you mentioned as a woman of color, as someone who's tried

to really find a strong tool for fighting displacement in san francisco, over the last six to seven years, working with metas a 45-year-old agency that has been working with city contracts, we continue to be challenged by the director's perspective on urgency. we hear daily what's going on with our tenants and to be concerned about one agency's capacity and one agency has shown time and time again that they can have sustainability throughout its 45-year history doesn't speak to urgency or the capacity that we need for this program. we're talking about $64 million that could be instantly deployed as soon as it gets approved but for an agency's perspective on capacity. so i'm hoping that, through this conversation, that the supervisors will want to sew the importance of funding and also thing importance of

being able to increase that capacity immediately. and not wait for an agency's perspective that the mayor doesn't even hold, which is very shocking for the mayor's office of housing and community development. thank you. >> ok. well, thank you, caroline. and thank you, director shaw, for answering a ul of our questions today. i feel like i have a little bit more of a complete picture. i think it is pretty clear that one agency has been -- one housing partner has been truly driving this program. sounds like there needs to be some resolution and you're all working to resolve the pause. we're not going to litigate that here or finalize that here but we definitely, you know, hope for an expedited resolution. also, i've heard you say that

housing accelerator fund and your office are coming back with recommendations on a reboots and that is also very important information, at least for this supervisor. so and then knowing for whatever reason, and thank you for clarifying, sounds like the was a lot of delays. but there is $10 million there, at least. thank you both and i don't know if colleagues might have more questions a. we talk about the reserves. but i'm going to call up director grofenberger, if she's now back or available to talk through a few things about our reserve account since she is the master of reserve and/or budget. you are on mute. >> i was just saying thank you. >> great. ok. so can you talk a little bit

about our fiscal cliff reserve. i know that over the last year, we got a significant portion of dollars that were utilized to help balance the budget with one-time funding from the federal government. can you talk about that and how it impactsses the overall budget that the mayor put forward that we ultimately approved this last july-early august. >> sure. so, as you all are really well aware, the beginning of this calendar year, we were facing over, you know, $630 million budget shortfall and then, as the time of our march update, we had new information that we would be receiving over $600 million of federal stimulus and so we were able to utilize that large one-time source to plug the project shortfall that we

otherwise would have been experiencing due to lack of -- and loss of local revenue and growing expenditures. and that federal relief has been assumed in the budget in both years of the budget we just recently adopted. >> so what i hear from that is that we utilize that money and now we have this $239.9 million sitting in that and then we're trying to predict -- protect and plan for what type of economic recovery we're going to have. correct? and that is so much of what our reserves are about. we'll ask the controller to come up. in terms of where we are and in terms of generally our

hotel tax, our sales tax, our gross receipts tax a lot of the projected revenues that we rely on to fund things like the arts, fund things like our social service safety net, even fund our nonprofit partners in the city, whether they're asking for a cost of living adjustment, whatever it may be. all of these things are factored into our budget and we were able to do that and avoid city layoffs. because of that support from the federal government. without that, we would have had massive cuts and massive reduction in services in the city. can you talk about that a little bit? >> yes. happy to. that's correct. like i said, we otherwise would have been facing a budget shortfall of over $600 million over the two years which would have necessitated significant reductions in services across the city. so we were able to utilize a large one-time federal force to prevent a lot of those difficult choices. as this committee is well aware, by the time we updated

the projection in march, had been a $630 million shortfall and became only $23 million. so it's much easier to solve. we were able to preserve services, avoid layoffs as well as do a number of helpful recovery-focused one-time investments. faunld nonprofit cola. things like that. so we were able to do a lot in the budget. and the creation of the cliff reserve was really an acknowledgment that we were able to do all of those things because of this large one-time source that was sitting underneath our budgets and what we didn't want to happen is when that large one-time source went away, that we would be stuck in the same position that we otherwise would have been in, in the spring. and so youing the $300 million in the fiscal cliff reserve, we can soft landing coming out of the pan democrat ticket avoid some of those major service cuts and

reductions that we otherwise would have needed to consider to balance the budget. >> ok. great. and where do you -- i'm going to ask the controller to -- if the controller is here. mr. rosenberg. i know that you're in the process of doing your projections and analysis now. but can you talk about where you see our economic recovery headed, at least where we're looking at right now and how having reserves or not having reserves factor into that conversation. >> certainly. good afternoon, supervisors. as you're aware, we prepare updates on projections multiple times a year.

updated to find expected financial projections and those will be projections working with both the mayor's budget office and it's a little bit early in the year for me to speak on any good news or bad news. i expected to have updates in that time. >> we receive the revenue on a monthly basis for the first four months of fiscal year where we have full returns from and received $218 million if it's annual lied going forward and significantly exceed the budgets or transfer tax for the year. withen that four months, there is a great deal of volatility. two months significantly below what we assumed.

and there's not a clear trend to this yet. so i can't speak with certainty about the amount of good news, for example. i would hope to have that shortly. in the big picture, we are working on these forecast updates. i think some tax revenues for the city are probably performing better than we expected. and those are typically in property-related taxes. and we have other revenues that are performing worse as well. and this tracks with some of the things that we're seeing in the economy. in the next update, you're likely to see downward revisions in the hotel tax projections, for example. driven by a slow hospitality recovery. and a sales tax that will be down. somewhat more volatile, consumer-driven revenue streams with downward pressure on them. i can't tell you what the net of that use will be. that's really the pearl of that december update. i hope to have that conversation for you shortly.

>> any other questions? i'm sorry. i have to hop off for a little emergency. >> i think we're probably goinging to move this forward. i think -- supervisor mar, do you have anything more? otherwise we'll move forward. >> nope, i'm good. >> great. i want to thank supervisor preston andrx to shaw and our controller and all of the supporters of this. you know, i was saying i do believe that this is worth the cost and there's urgency around it and there's some good times, i think, even though we can't predict for sure where this will end up at tend of the year. there is some signs that so

far the property tax revenues are overperforming predictions. and i think that this is a fiscally responsible and necessary thing for us to do to prevent displacement in a program that we know can work. i look forward to your updates and continued work to make sure that we need -- we have the capacity in place so that it's done effectively. and we'll turn it over to you and make the necessary motions and move forward. >> thank you so much, chair haney. i very much appreciate the time. it has been a long hearing on this item and i do want to thank all the folks who called in and for who have

e-mailed us to express support on this item. very much appreciate all advocacy. and support on this. unless we step in as a city and use the funds to scale up the program. we look forward to making that happen and i think i can recommend the various motions here. but someone else needs to make them. and i should say we circulated the proposed amendments previously to committee members. the first thing is to duplicate the file so that one can deal with the rent relief side of things and one can deal with the social housing and housing stability so that would be my first request. i don't know if you want me

to list them all or take action. >> can you list them all and then lift the amendment? >> right. thank you, chair haney. first, duplicate the file. second r on the duplicated file and i mean rent relief one and move to amend by striking the housing stability fund references using it justs for the rent relief portion as per the amendments that we submitted and on that duplicated file t rent relief funds then move to continue that duplicated look for the chair. after that original file, motion to move to amend by striking the residential relief portion so that it is just focused on the housing stability fund money and move that item to the full board with recommendation.

>> great. before we do that, supervisor safai? >> yeah. just wanted to make some final comments. again, i appreciate the work you've done through all the folks that came out today. i definitely believe that this program needs a reboot. i think the timing of it is just a little bit off, given the fact that we're going to have a better financial update from our controller and have a better understanding of what that reboot looks like. i'm fine with sending this out of committee today. i'm not convinced that the $64 million is the right number, givesen that -- and i have really strong concerns and i want to put that on the record today. not about the program. not about what you're asking for.

i have strong concerns and reservations as it relates to our economy. i'm concerned that our sales tax is not [inaudible] and it has been very well documented. the controller spoke about this. and talk to anyone in the industry, our hotel occupancy rates are the lowest in any major city in the country. our hotel tax is not recovering, our sales tax is not recovering. we have a less than 25% occupancy in our downtown office buildings. that impacts our gross receipt. all of those things feed into our budget. and having reserve accounts are exactly for those purposes. we need to be able to ensure that we maintain our city services, that we maintain our social service safety net, that we can provide support to our nonprofits in so many different ways. and provide the services that we need our city. this is a very, very unusual decision but we're in unusual times. we're in a crisis that we're still recovering from and i understand that people are being displaced and we have to have urgency.

i look forward to you, supervisor preston, since you are the lead sponsor of working with the mayor, sitting down with the mayor and sitting down with the mayor's office and negotiating a final deal on what that number might end up ultimately being. but in the 21 years that i have been working in this local government of san francisco, i cannot recall a supplemental budget request of this magnitude and size after a budget was just done and so i think, because of that, i think absolutely we encourage you to sit with the mayor, negotiate with the mayor, and come up with a final resolve. and whatever that resolve might be for this program. i agree with many of the things that you said. there was not urgency in this program. and there was not urgency in putting resources into a reboot of this program. sounds like we're going to get that. i know supervisor melgar is working hard to shape that

conversation. about a reboot for the small sites program. and i think that that is extremely important for the success of this outcome. we can put dollars aside and then ultimately if that does not mean the success of acquisition and the success of long-term stabilization for those units. i worry about that. but i am supportive of this moving forward today. but i encourage further conversation and negotiations based on what i have heard here today and i appreciate all of your hard work on this and your leadership for this. it's definitely something that our city will benefit from. >> supervisor preston? >> thank you, chair haney. i just do want to respond on the sort of approach to the reserves. because i think it is an important issue and i think, you know, we talk about the importance of these anti displacement efforts. we have a $1. billion reserve.

and part of the idea of that is, you know, having products available for rainy day. and i just want to say that we're coming -- with all due respect, i think we maybe have a different perspective to [inaudible]. we're coming out of a period of time, and you know this is from talking with your constituents. we are coming out of a period of time where the vulnerability that folks are living with, i don't know whether it's unprecedenced but unprecedenced certainly in recent history. and these are the folks we're trying to save from displacement. and i appreciate the comments around the supplementals of this size being unusual. but what's also unusual and you and i have discussed this, is that the voters raised this money off of large real estate transactions.

and the controller has told us that we're on pace to even exceed the projections. so this is a very unusual situation where the voters have authorized what's going to be hundreds of millions of dollars. they understood it to be for housing. our boards unanimously said we would use nit this way and need to follow through on that promise. and we're doing that in the context of a $1.2 billion reserve. and if you are not going to use a small percentage of that to prevent displacement and mike it affordable permanently i don't know when we would use them. but i wanted to address that point and thank you, chair haney, for the additional time. >> sure. thank you. with that, i want to move the amendment that -- as far as preston put forward. and take vote on the amendments. >> thank you, chair haney.

just for the record, are you also the one requesting the duplication of the file? >> yes. >> ok. thank you. on the amendment -- sorry, ton notion amends the original file by striking the rent relief portion and keeping the housing stability fund and to amends the duplicate file -- [roll call] >> we have three ayes. >> great. and that is for the duplication and the -- >> tep amendments on both the original and duplicate. >> thank you. i want to move the legislation to the full board as amended with a positive recommendation. >> on the notion forward the

original file for housing stability to the full board as amended -- [roll call] we have three ayes. >> all right. thank you. appreciate it. thank you, everyone. >> chair haney, there is the balance of what to do with the duplicated file. >> i think what we want to do here is continue to the chair. >> thank you very much. on the motion to don'ts duplicated file to the call of the chair as amended -- [roll call] we have three ayes. >> great. thank you. appreciate it. all right.

where are we? can we call item 3? >> thank you, chair haney. item number 3 is a resolution relating to e.q.x.s jackson s.q. holdco l.l.c. at potential exchange of 530 sansome street for a portion of 425-439. under the jurisdiction of the fire department and in exchange of a portion of the real property at 425 through 439 washington street, parcel block number 0206 and lots number 013 and 014 authorizing the director of plot and city staff to proceed with the proposed fire station development project, subject to several conditions as defined herein, adopting findings pursuant to ceqa and making finds of consistency with the general plan, and the eight priority

policies of planning code section 101.1. members of public who wish to provide public comments should call 415-655-0001, meeting i.d. -- press star 3. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand and that is your cue to begin your comments. mr. chair? >> thank you. and we have director peneq here to present on this item. >> good afternoon, chair haney. supervisor safai and supervisor mar. i'm director of real estate. i have a quick and easy one for you this afternoon. i'm just going to share my screen here.

hopefully you can see the presentation. >> yes. >> i am before you this afternoon seeking your positive recommendation for a resolution approving and ratifying certain implementing documents and furtherance for the replacement of fire station 13 at 530 sansome street. the full legislative history is set out in the current resolution by way of a quick summary. on april 30, 2019, the board conditionally approved the cpea which stands for conditional property exchange agreement to facilitate a new high-rise development and fire station 13 at no cost to the city. under the cpea, the developer will build the four-storey fire station as well as a

vertical integrated mixed use tower project. on june 2, 2020, the board of supervisors adopt add resolution that approved an updated cpea which, among other things, allowed for the increase in the size of the fire station to 20,000 square feet. it added an apparatus bay so now the new fire station will have four instead of three. it added a voluntary $1.6 million fee payment to be paid by the developer and also increased the overall allowable cost to build a new fire station from $25 million to $32.1 million. again at no cost to the city. more recently, on october 5, 2021, the board of supervisors approved the ceqa findings for this project. the current action before you is seeking your approval and ratification substantially in the form of certain

implementing documents. your approval of these documents is required under the original cpea. they are in brief the architect agreement. this is the agreement between the developer and the architect and the design of the project. the ground lease, which the city as land lord developed for a tenant of the lease and doing construction. construction contract, which is the agreement between the developer and their construction manager for the construction of the project. a construction management agreement, which is an agreement between the developer and the city, governing the relationship between the parties during the construction period. the easement agreement which is an agreement between the developer and the city governing the relationship after the project is completed. a completion guarantee, which is an agreement by related parent company to construct

the new fire station if the developer is, indeed, unable to perform. an estopple certificate which will relate to the certain facts and stop the certificate from the city and certify certain facts regarding the lease are true. and finally the first amendment to the conditional exchange agreement, which doesn't change the terms of the agreement, but basically provides some housekeeping and americaning the agreements into one. and thesement twos were delayed due to covid and adds the completion guarantee, which is not specifically contemplated under the original agreement. and lastly it set the time for when the parties agree on the amount of title policy insurance to be held by each party.

these are implementing documents and they do not change the underlying agreement approved by the board of supervisors. this concludes my presentation. i have nick witty available to answer your questions. >> all right. >> do we have a b.l.a. on this item? >> i'm not sure. >> colleagues, any questions or comments? everyone is all questioned and commented out. [laughter] >> it was the last item. [laughter] >> can we open it up to public comment, please? >> yes, chair haney.

>> members of the public who wish to provide public comment, please press star 3, 2. mr. akins, do we have any speakers? operator: mr. clerk, there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you very much. mr. chair? >> great. public comment is closed. i do not have any questions or comment either. so, i think woe will say thank you and thank you everyone for your patience. i know there was a big crew of folks who have their thing waiting to be available for this so thank you for your time. i want to make motion to move item number 3 to the full board with a positive recommendation. it is a good project. and can we have the roll call? >> on that motion -- [roll call] >> did you call my name? >> yes. we're voting to -- >> yes.

[roll call] >> we have three ayes. >> great. thank you again. we'll go to the full board where a positive recommendation. thank you, director. mr. clerk, please call item four. >> yes. item number 4 is an authorize for the department of public health to submit a one-year application for calendar year 2022 to continue to receive funding for the integrated h.i.v. surveillance and prevention programs for healths departments from the centers for disease control and prevention requesting $5 million in h.i.v. prevention funding for san francisco form from january 1, 2022 to december 31, 2022. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 24951037123 and

then press pound twice. if you are not already done so, please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and you may begin your comments. mr. chair? >> thank you. and we have [inaudible] craner? >> caller: hi, supervisor. thank you so much. once again, i'm nicole craner, contract manager. what you have before you is a request to expand [inaudible] centers for disease control funding for h.i.v. prevention. this grant is referred to as integrated h.i.v. surveillance and prevention programs for health departments. also known as ps-18802. this is a continuation of the grant. the board approved in 2020 and we are grateful for your

ongoing support. the grant proposal expands our commitment to fully integrate surveillance and prevention programs. it supports strategis that have contributed to dramatically increasing h.i.v. incidents in recent years and implement some shifts with the epidemiology and including a much stronger equity focus. this grant has 11 requirements per the funders. this include 10s h.i.v. prevention and surveillance strategies. i won't read of all the 11 requirements for this grant as they are listed in the resolution document prevented before you today. d.p.h. has called to improve h.i.v. and hep-c related illness for people experiencing homelessness and on drugs. the program is outreach prevention, treatment and integration. it uses the c.d.c. funding to support critical

infrastructure, d.p.h. staffing to coordinate planning, community engagement and technical support. we also help jail services to do h.i.v. and hep-c testing. it dovetails nicely with this grant and are supported with the generosity of san francisco general funding for h.i.v. services contract. we have approximately 14 agencis who are funded urn these h.i.v. prevention contracts. the population for this grant is defined as people living with h.i.v. or at risk for h.i.v. they values this requirement for men who have sex with men, black african american community, latin community, transwomen, people who use drug and people experiencing homelessness. this grant enables san francisco to maintain its strong emphasis on services for high prevalent populations, while bringing an increased focused to the

prevention needs in the community of color and h.i.v.-related dispair notice. they experience a new infection, late diagnosis, linkage, retention and viral suppression. component a of this grant t core strategies and activities for integrated h.i.v. surveillance and prevention has received flat funding of $5 million and we just requested for a no-cost extension for component b opt in. overall, this study remains steady and no changes in the way the funding is used. i'm happy to answer any questions that you have and i hope that you continue to support by moving this item forward. thank you for your consideration. >> thank you. thank you for your work. is there a b.l.a. report on this item? >> there is not a report. >> great. not seeing any questions or comments from colleagues. obviously we're all very supportive of this work.

and grateful for the funds from the c.d.c. to do so. i will make a motion to move item four to the full board. with that, public comment. any public comment on this item? >> thank you, chairs haney. operations checking to see if we have any callers in the queue. members of the public who wishs to provide comment on this item, please press star 3 now. for those already on hold, please don't wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and that is your cue to begin your comments. any callers? operator: mr. clerk, there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you very much. mr. chair? >> public comment is closed. i now want to make a motion to move this item to the full board with a positive recommendation. could we have a roll call vote, please? >> on that motion -- [roll call] we have three ayes.

>> great. thank you. appreciate it. i want to call item 5. >> item 5 is the ordinance waiving the fee required by the public works code, section 724.1 subsection b for temporary streetspace occupancy permits on certain designated city streets on saturday, december 4, 2021 through sunday, december 5, 2021, saturday, december 11, 2021 and sunday, december 12, 2021 to promote sidewalk

sales of merchandise through the holiday season. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-1037-123 and press pound twice. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and that is your cue to begin university comments. mr. chair? >> great. thank you. and welcome emily abraham from d.q.l. welcome. >> thank you so much, chair haney. and thank you, supervisors, for having me. my name is emily abraham. the supervisor introduced this legislation on october 1209 waive the fee required by public works code section 124.1 subsection b. this was done to promote sidewalk sales of merchandise during the holiday season from our local businesses. and to promote street activation and shoppinging local, we consulted with oawd and decided to introduce temporary occupancy permit fee waivers from major merchant corridors throughout city. these dates were chosen to

complement local campaigns and inclives of all of holidays in december. the board has waived it in the past. the most recent bying 2019 and 2018 and before and since this introduction of this item, we've been working closely with other district offices to make this as inclusive as process. so districts four, six, eight, nine, 10 and 11 expressed a desire to expand the skoem of this ordinance and these changes are expressed in the amendments that i sent to you all this morning. b.l.a.s reports have not been conducted for these in the past. there are a number of eligible streets. we do not anticipate a large impact. the fee is $77. so, if every block in the city were to participate, the

total cost would be more than $20,000 k. and there is the offering as well with the san francisco chamber of commerce and cdma. thank you all for your time and i hope we can gain your support. we can stay on in case anyone has any questions. >> great. thank you. >> there a b.l.a. report on this item? >> no, chair haney, we do not have a report on this item. >> ok. so there is an amendment, is that correct? can we go to public comment, please? >> yes, chair haney. operations checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item please press star 3 now to line up to speak. mr. adkins, do we have any colors? >> mr. clerk, there are no

callers in the queue. >> caller: thank you very much. >> i just wanted to thank ms. abraham for the presentation and the amendments and, you know, also supervisor stefani for sponsoring this. i appreciate the amendments to make it more expansive and we'll definitely [inaudible] this opportunity to the merchants in our district and i would like to be added as a co-upon sort. thank you. -co-sponsor. thank you. >> great. thank you. so i want to move those amendments, please. oh, supervisor safai? >> yeah. please add me as a co-sponsor, too. i think this is an important piece of legislation. >> ok. then i'll be added as well. appreciate it, everyone. can we move those amendments, please? >> on the motion to accept the amendments as stated -- [roll call]

we have three ayes. >> all right. now this is continuous, right? >> yes, we do. our next meeting is that of december 1. >> all right. we'll continue this for meeting on december 1 and thank you. could we have a vote on that. >> the motion to continue this item to the december 1 meeting of this committee -- [roll call] we have three ayes. >> great. this will be continued to december 1. mr. clerk, can you please call item 6. >> yes, chair haney.

item number 6 is the ordinance waiving the banner fees under public works code section 184.78 for the placement of up to 300 banners per year for three years starting on november 20, 2021 by the false of economic and workforce development to publicize the city's shop and dine in the 49 campaign and affirming the planning department's determination under ceqa. members of the publics who wish to provide public comments on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-103-7123. press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that will beb the cue to begin your comments.

>> thank you. ms. abraham. do we have ms. abraham? i think she is on this one as well, from what i can tell. >> hello. i do believe that we have mary anne thompson from oewd that can present. >> sure. >> yep. good afternoon, supervisor. thank you. on behalf of the office of economic and workforce development, we are proposing this banner and banners citywide and part of the shop and dine in the 49 which is a city-wide buy local campaign. in previous years, we focused on individual corridors. move, forward for the next three years, we'll be focusing on a city-wide

[inaudible] and supporting all of our city-wide corridors. as an example of things we've done this year to support city-wide activations, some of you will have [inaudible] activations in which we [inaudible] [audio is muffled] we will be bringing you a holiday trolley with caroler and along with these types of things. for the next three years, we'll be bringing you more opportunities that will highlight these individuals to our corridors to shop and hopefully support our economic recovery. i'm here if you have any questions. >> this is a time when folks really need support and want people to get out and support our small businesses.

so thank you. is there another report on this item? >> no, chair haney. >> please call public comment. members of the publics who wish to provide public comments on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-103-7123. press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that will beb the cue to begin your comments. do we have any callers for this item? operator: there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you very much, mr. chair. >> thank you. public comment has closed. see any questions or comments from colleagues? can i make a motion to move this item to the -- oh. is there amendments? >> we did not receive any.

we have not seen any of this right now. >> let's make a motion to move it to the full board for a positive recommendation. [roll call] >> great. we'll go to the full board with a positive recommendation. thank you so much. please read item 7. >> yes. item number 17 a resolution approving an agreement between the city and county of san francisco and pacific gas and electric company establishing requirements for certain affordable housing projects to connect to the electric grid for a term of 10 or more years. [inaudible] following

approval by the federal energy regulatory commission. members of the public who wish to provide public members of the publics who wish to provide public comments on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-103-7123. press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that will beb the cue to begin your comments. mr. chair? >> great. thank you. and welcome ms. huskins? to present on this item. you are on mute.

>> we do see you unmuting, but your headset is not picking you up. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, right now i hear you. >> can you hear me? >> yes.

>> ok. >> what is happening? we can hear you. mow we can't hear you. and then there is a question of whether we can share the screen. grace tang? there we go. we cannot hear you. i cannot hear you at all. i'm inclined to go to the next item and return to this one. given how much we have going

on. mr. clerk, please call item 8. >> yes, chair haney. yes. item number 18 a resolution authorizing the issuance and sale of bonds of the san francisco unified school district, prescribing the terms of sale of not to exceed $284,250,000 of said general obligation bonds, election of 2016-series-c by a negotiated sale approving the form of bond purchase agreement, a proving the forms of one or more paying agent agreements and authorizing the execution of necessary documents and certificates relating to such bonds. members of the publics who wish to provide public comments on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-103-7123. press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that will be the cue to begin your comments.

>> great. welcome. >> hi, good afternoon. chair haney and the members of budgets and finance committee. we did have a very brief presentation because there was a change in the [inaudible]. i'm not sure if that can be presented or if i should be the one friending it. -- presenting it. i wasn't sure of the protocol. >> would the clerk be presenting it or would i be presenting it? >> presenting? which? >> our -- >> you do have sharing privileges. >> i see. ok. let me -- i'll just -- thank you so much for allowing us to speak.

i am going to see if i can present this. sorry. it's not exactly -- it's not working so if i can just briefly share an update with you first. as it's not allowing me to present. as you may already know, the district has an active bond program and has been issuing bonds on its own since 2004. the district bond program funds needed facility improvement projects and for many years the district and other california school districts typically authorize

bond financing through resolution of the district board alone. the law does not allow that for the school district receiving a qualified certification to do so and that, therefore, the resolution under consideration today authorizes the sale bonds under the terms previously approved by the district in october and we'll have note that school impact on the city and county. we wanted to neat since the b.l.a. board was drafted, there are bond funds to address the immediate need for the school sites and within the approved measure of 2016. the board of education approved funs of about $100 million to be allocated to various projects, including new school constructions in mission bay, to allow porable air filters in every classroom and larger classrooms as we are continuing to finish all the rooms in our school sites. and also projects and

facilities as a resulting as well. that updated sheet is what i wanted to share. but we -- i'm sorry that i'm not able to share it with you at this time. but we ask for your support of this resolution as amended by the b.l.a. office and we're here -- i'm here to answer any other questions. >> thank you. appreciate it. thank you for that update. is there a b.l.a. report on this item? >> yes. so this resolution authorizes the san francisco unified school district to issue and then for the city to sell on behalf of the district $284.25 million of general obligation bonds and the resolution also approves transaction documents for those new money bonds as well

as $145 million of refunding bonds to which the city is a party. this is the third of three general obligation bonds issued fwi school district authorized by proposition a and we showed the budgets for the bond program on page 15 of our property. -- of our report. the spending plan has been updated by the district. they provided us that information. thank you for that. and they can respond to questions about how they reallocated the funding for the bond program. on page 18 of the report, we showed the incremental increase to the school district debt service, which would total $261 million over 20 years. now in the future, going forward, if the board of supervisors wants to receive ongoing information on the progress of this bond

program, which includes [inaudible] to the existing schools, we recommend that the board request information from the school district on the annual performance audit that are required by proposition-a on the bond program. now after speaking to the city attorney's office, i want to offer the following recommendation, which is slightly different than what is in our report. so i'm just going to read the amendment that i'm recommending be included in the resolution, which would add a section that states the following. the board of supervisors quds the district -- the school district present the annual proposition-a performance audit of the bond program at a hearing before the government audit and oversight committee upon enactment by the board of supervisors of a hearing request on that. toic. -- on that topic and that is end quote. and i recommended g.a.o. because that is typically where government audits are heard. having said that, this resolution is consistent with proposition-a and we do recommend approval of the legislation. i'm happy to answer any questions.

>> great. thank you. can we go to public comment, please? >> yes, chair haney. operations checking to see if there are any callers in the queue. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item, please press star 3 now to be added. for those already on hold, please don'ts wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. mr. adkins, do we have any callers who wish to speak on this item? operator: mr. clerk, there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you much. mr. chair? >> great. thank you. public comment is closed. i do not see any questions or comments from colleagues. so, with that, there is a b.l.a. recommendation. are you amenable to the b.l.a. recommendations? >> yes. thanks. >> ok. great. i'm going to make a motion

foister accept the b.l.a.'s recommendation if you can take a roll call vote on that, please. >> on that motion to amend the resolution? [roll call] and we have three ayes. >> great. all right. now i'm going to make a notion move this forward to the full board as amended. [inaudible]. >> on that motion -- [roll call] >> we have three ayes. >> great. thank you. this will go to full board with a positive recommendation. thank you so much. as amended. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> are we ready with item 7? what do you think?

let's try it. >> can you hear me now? >> mr. clerk, can you please call item 7? >> yes. going back to item 7. which is the resolution of approving an agreement between the city and counties and pacific gas and electric company establishing requirements for certain affordable housing projects to connect to the electric grid for a term of 10 or more years. members of the public who wish to provide public comments on this item should call 415-655-0001. meeting i.d. 2495-103-7123. press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you've been unmuted and that will be the cue to begin your comments. mr. chair? >> great. give it another try. >> you can hear me now? >> yes. >> ok. thank you so much. deep apologies for that.

so, i'm here before you to ask for positive recommendation on an agreement between the city and county of san francisco and pg&e regarding certain affordable housing projects. i'm joined today by lydia eli and aaron carson from mocd and they'll have a couple of slides toward the end of this presentation. so, first, i'm just going to give you a little background here and, apologies, my name is pamela husing. i'm the director of federal agreements and acquisition analysis with the power interpries sfpuc. so, next slide, please. as you are well aware, we continue to have issues connecting to the pg&e-owned grid and we don't try to work with them to facilitate these interconnections. but we have had many problems for many years and,

unfortunately, some very important projects get caught up in this issue. we regularly report to the board with our quarterly report that let you know what kinds of disputes we're having with pg&e. n.s please? [please stand by] [please stand by]

and this agreement, while limited, it does allow us to move forward with certain affordable housing projects at secondary which is low voltage which is the appropriate level for these projects. as i mentioned, this is somewhat of a limited agreement. it does not apply to projects that are not on city property and it does not apply to projects that do not meet the low-income guidelines. so, that would be -- and that is to say that these projects need to be 100% affordable housing and that excludes the manager's unit and then they need to be on city property and -- or the city needs to be transferring within