>> president bleiman: public comment will be available on every agenda item on the agenda. both channel 26 and sfgovtv.org are streaming the number across the screen. each member will be allowed two minutes to speak. opportunities to speak during the public comment period are available using the platform

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record that we have excused absences for both commissioner perez and commissioner wang. >> president bleiman: thank you. the first order of business is general public comment. is there any public comment for agenda item -- or items not listed on the agenda? >> operator: good evening, president bleiman. there is none. >> president bleiman: all right. then we'll move onto number 2, which is the approval of the meeting minutes from november 2, 2021 commission meeting. do we have a motion to accept the minutes from november 2, 2021. >> so moved. >> president bleiman: is there a second? >> second. >> president bleiman: is there any public comment? >> operator: checking and there is no public comment. >> president bleiman: okay. roll call. [roll call]

>> president bleiman: all right. the meeting minutes have been approved. the next agenda item is number 3, which is a report from executive director weiland. >> okay. i just feel like i'm over here doing a lot of things. i just have a brief announcement that i want to throw in this space, thinking that we might have something to share, and we did from yesterday. you might have noticed in my director's report as well as our news clippings folder in the google drive, there was some press about an exciting announcement yesterday that mayor breed made about a new initiative that will support and showcase our local music and entertainment scene as a way to promote this continued economic recovery. so this is something that oewd has worked really hard on thus far and will have more

information about it soon, but a little bit that i can share at this time was this was something that was a brain child of now city attorney chu chu -- chiu while he was working at the state, and it essentially brings $2.5 million that will fund investment in local music outside, so continuing live music in an outside venue probably for the next several years to come. we hope to engage all of you in helping to promote them as they come along. thisser agoing to work with local venues and local performers is really the object of this program, and trying to raise awareness of how fun live music is and driving our local

economy. beyond that, i will just continue to update you guys on this program as we have any information. do you have any questions for me? >> president bleiman: questions? i did have one. as -- i've already gotten a lot of calls, actually, about this, and have made a lot of splash yesterday. a lot of artists are wondering and venues are wondering how they're going to apply to be a part of it. obviously, we're probably not there yet, and i'm not asking for you to answer that, but i'm hoping that we can really highlight that process here in the commission meetings. >> true. >> president bleiman: i'm sure that's on the radar. >> yes. that's on ben's menu, so i'm assuming he'll update you at the december 7 meeting.

>> president bleiman: excelente. do you have anything more? >> that's it. >> president bleiman: short and sweet. do we have any questions on director weiland's report? >> i'm going to try to share the screen with the slide here. there we go. just for a few seconds as a courtesy. and there is no public comment. >> president bleiman: all right. we'll close this agenda item. moving along, we'll go to number 4, which is report from deputy director azevedo. >> this is calen. say hello to the entertainment

commission. he is very excited to be in attendance this evening. i will hand him back over to dad, and i will give my enforcement report. >> hi, calen. >> all right, folks. i have quite a large enforcement report to give out to you, so i handed out a commission folder for you to follow along this evening? i'm just going to close my door this evening? if you want to follow along, i think that would help because there's a lot coming at you. since our last hearing, we've received 57 sound complaints, 34 of which happened this weekend. [indiscernible] we visited them three times, and each time,

they've been in full compliance? i just want to put it on the record that they're not violating any of their permit conditions, and i just want to put it that we're responding to complaints at this location. the next business i want to talk about this evening is edinburgh castle pub. at the last hearing, i mentioned they were in violation of their sound limit over halloween weekend which resulted in another citation issued to the business. since then, i've received another three complaints and a complaint from a neighborhood? inspector fiorentino has visited the business, and they were in compliance with their sound limits during all three visits. this neighbor who has e-mailed me has alleged they're playing music just nonstop. on saturday morning, i received

an e-mail that was directed to me and one of supervisor haney's legislative aide indicating that the business had been playing music for 30-plus hours straight without stopping, and they believed that the business was running an illegal after hours business with alcohol sales or they were intentionally leaving the music onto spite the neighbors and the city. i replied to the neighbor and i notified them of the recent visit, and i stated the business was in compliance with the music ordinance. they explained to me that a customer came into to edinburgh when the owner was alone, twisted her wrist when she was alone and trying to smash the phone when she called for help. i reached out to northern

station permit officer this morning requesting a copy of that incident report for our records and haven't heard back until this evening. [indiscernible] two of the instances they were in violation. once they received a citation for one of those violation. overall, the owners have been very amenable to our office, and tonight, it would be great to hear your input. we feel this issue has exceeded our scope, to some degree, and the business has been in proactive communications with us, so that's the end of this lovely update. the next business to update you on is the blue light, which is

located over at 1979 union? business holds an indoor l.l.p. and an outdoor jam permit. we heard from a neighbor that they were having amplified music in their parklet, which is not allowed in their jam permit. we received another e-mail complaint from the same neighbor the following week, so inspector fiorentino went back, and there was a five-piece funk band performing amplified in their parklet. the inspector spoke with the owner, johnny, who said that the band was on their last song

and he had just arrived. the reason i bring this to your attention is because of our enforcement history with this business. in the last year, we've received 18 complaints and visited the business nine times? of the nine visit, they have been in violation of their jam permit seven times. they have received two n.o.v.s and one citation that i issued today in the last year, and further, it's important to note that when we reconditioned their jam permit to annual allow outdoor acoustic live entertainment, director weiland allowed up to four outdoor performances with the sound permit, but the owner declined the offer. in the last two weeks, e.c. staff has tried contacting the owner via e-mail and over the phone, but our messages were not returned. besides the citation we issued today, please let us know if you have any further

suggestions to regulate the business. one moment. okay. the next business that i wanted to discuss was castle gardens. they hold a jam permit for their business at 957 mission street? they're permitted to have outdoor amplified sound tuesday through saturday, noon to 6:00 p.m., as well as special events each month where they have amplified sound permits. the manager of castle gardens recently told our staff that they did not have any special events planned in the month of november. on sunday, 11-14, inspector

fiorentino arrived and observed a jam band for which they did not have a permit.

i'll go over the necessity of educating and training staff on the sound limit and other permit conditions to ensure consistent compliance moving forward, sharing these details for your awareness, but we're open to any suggestions that you might have. the next business is the midway. you might recall from two hearings ago that the midway had a hearing on august 16 which generated two sound complaints. inspector fiorentino did respond, but it was after the event had already wrapped up. this past weekend, they had events on saturday and sunday and we received 12 complaints in total. inspector fiorentino spoke with the operations manager who

sounded very agreeable to turning the volume down, however when they were speaking, he said he'd be right back, and inspector fiorentino assumed he'd be turning down the sound. for your awareness, we only received five complaints about the midway from october 2020 to may 2021, and then from may to the weekend of october 16, we didn't receive any complaints. so it's only the live event that happened on the weekend of

october 16 and this weekend. finally, i want to acknowledge that there was a large event happening on pier 35, which is port jurisdiction, however, the business did not obtain a one-time event permit, so we've been in communication with the business about obtaining one time event permits when they have a band on the property, and this generated a number of complaints. so that concludes my report, and i'm happy to hear what you have to say about the businesses tonight. >> and kaitlyn, just for everybody's ease, you know, you went through five or six, but i think there's three that we really wanted feedback on, so again, those are -- >> and that would be the blue light, castle gardens, and the

midway. >> president bleiman: hey, kaitlyn, can i ask you a question? >> sure. >> president bleiman: what is the shared spaces team? >> they are the entity that is granting permission for the shared spaces to be activated. it's the regulatory agency that issues the use of the parklet.

>> and you have talked to the owner? >> yes, i did. >> and you spoke to the owner about the music running 30 hours straight? >> yes, i did, and they confirmed that did not happen. it's tricky because incidents happening between 3:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m., and our inspectors wrap up at 2:00 a.m.

[indiscernible]. >> -- out of the business location. it hasn't really resurfaced lately, but that was said at the beginning when i started working with the business owner in september. >> and then, it seems like it's the same neighbor, just one person complaining, and is the person complaining alleged to be the same person who came in and assaulted the staff? >> the e-mails that i get are from the same individual. the complaints are almost always anonymous, so it's hard to tell if that same person is the e-mailing neighbor. i way that i inferred the owner his description of the assault

made it seem like it was the same person, however, i am waiting on the police report to see if i can identify the person's name so that we have all of the facts straight. the owner is aware that there has been in contact with the neighbor who e-mailed me, so that was not anonymous. they have been in touch via e-mail. >> my only thought about the assault, obviously, none of us condone violence, but that wouldn't be consistent with somebody who's trying to get rid of a business. that does sound like a person, right or wrong, who's at their wit's end.

that doesn't sound like somebody working an agenda to get so emotionally out of control or physically out of control, for that matter. >> and i know there was some thoughts that it might be people in their cars plague music at all hours in close proximity by unrelated to, like, edinburgh castle. like, it doesn't seem like edinburgh castle would be turning their music on at approximate -- at 3:00 a.m. >> inspector fiorentino has

made mention that the environment is quiet around edinburgh castle, but you will see from the enforcement tracker or the enforcement report this evening that we get reports all the time, right, all times of the day and the week. >> and i'm wondering if the sound is coming from another place, and therefore, edinburgh castle -- anything we do with edinburgh castle is not going to solve the problem. >> when somebody does a noise

complaint, doesn't the police have to check it out, and isn't there any data after 2:00 or between 3:00 and 6:00? >> if they do it through the 311 app and it's lodged through entertainment, it's held in our enforcement queue until an inspector can get out to visit? of course, if they call non-emergency, that would actually never come to our team. it would always just go to sfpd. >> so how can we solve this? if we don't get the data, we can't get -- >> commissioner, we have the data, and most commonly, we probably are, unless they're call sfpd non-emergency directly or unless we're going

directly to sfpd and asking them to do, like, a passing call, which is what came to mind when you were asking this kind of line of questions. >> because if it is a guy that has an issue, i mean, specifically, personal issue with them, we wouldn't have any data, any confirmed data that they are playing music there. >> i think he means evidence and not so much data, because evidence is the information that comes in, but i agree with you, commissioner. unless we get somebody out there when it's happening, we are not going to know what's going off there.

we it take this offline, but maybe the pass-through idea is a good idea just to try to put this to rest. i feel bad for this business if it's not there, and if it is them, which seems unlikely, it would be nice to know so that we can take action. we're just spinning our wheels. how many times has this shown up in our hearings? just over and over and over. >> you know, it might be helpful if we picked this up at the next meeting, allow kaitlyn to talk to the permit officer, and at the same time, you might want to ask kaitlyn to have that permit officer to run the

address of the calls for service. i just ran the data, and it looks like they haven't made any complaints after hours. we are responding to the complaints that are coming in in real-time when we can that are during inspector fiorentino's shift, but i'm happy to work with the permit officer at northern station. >> i think what's going to be really telling is the person that did the alleged assault, why he or she did it, and that may lend either credibility that there is a problem or not. >> i mean, if they were really making that kind of noise at 4:00 in the morning, i would

call the police. >> yeah, and we can certainly get that data from sfpd. >> president bleiman: i want a chance to talk about the other two. i do think, at this point, there's something coming up where we have to solve this riddle of the sphinx here. it seems, on the other two, we have businesses that are kind of willfully noncomplying with us on a repeated basis or a very brazen basis. can maggie or kaitlyn, can you just walk us through as a commission the various steps that can be taken when a

business behaves in a manner where they -- i mean, in the case of the midway, it sounds like you literally just said no, and in the case of the blue light, they say what they want to say and do what they want to do. so what steps do we have as a commission, like, overall. >> i'm going to jump in and pass it to kaitlyn and say, proactively, kaitlyn sent e-mails just this evening with the citations for both of those businesses, making very clear that we'd be presenting about those issues and violations to you all tonight. so really hoping that drives conversation so that she can connect with both of these business owners individually and really try to squash it if

we can. with the midway, we haven't had many issues with them, it's just these two events which were not allowed, but then, it's the attitude along with not being allowed. businesses feel like it's worth it to pay the cost and just be done with it, and maybe they do that multiple times. so at your discretion, commissioners, you could tell us beyond if we don't have fruitful conversations with them, i think it's your potential to bring them back to hearing, and we could frame that as an item? the other thing is if you're getting sound violations in the case of midway, if they received three of these consecutively within a

three-month period, i could just suspend them, which would not be fun to not have that permit. beyond that, i think what we suggested for the permit would make sense because it's an on going issue? we've proven noncompliance seven out of nine visits, and so i think what's next is maybe we do escalate that up to the shared spaces team, and we identify this as a problematic business. so you're aware, none of that

team will be surprised with that because they have had previous issues with the blue light for other issues at the space relative to their backyard. so up to you all. we can do, you know, hodgepodge of those things. >> well, my opinion, kind of what happened -- i've known the blue line owner for years. when you're kind of a seasoned person, you just might kind of ignore things. i'm not saying he is, but we just use the covid thing, but

there's always going to be people that aren't going to abide by the rules. >> yeah, so that one feels a little more challenging. >> i always came from back in the day when dave was on the street and i was an owner and, you know, we had to have the ultimate respect for our sound people or whoever came by the venue, you know? >> president bleiman: this doesn't exist in the abstract, either. i don't know if you've been following the news, but in south beach, the little tip of

the town of miami, the voters backlashed against sound violations, and they voted to close the bars earlier. in new york city, there's a lot of sound violations in their version of parklets, so they're thinking of pulling the program. so i think we have a great responsibility to make sure that, as commissioner lee said, all the bad apples don't ruin it for all the other businesses. so i think we should bring them in, blue light especially, and talk it over. and if they don't want to do it, we can order them to shared spaces, which would be a big

thing for them as they're applying for a shared spaces. i don't want to waste your time if we feel that we've resolved it in the next couple of days. >> president bleiman: well, how many times have we felt that we've resolved things with the blue light. i recall they had a deejay in their kitchen at one point, and i don't know for sure if they knew that was not allowed, but most of us know that's not allowed, so we may need to consider the alternatives. but absolutely, let's hear what the response is first before we take any rash action, but i think we're beyond rash action

here, yeah. we're kind of in that territory. >> and they couldn't even apply for a place of entertainment if they wanted to, so that would help ground you -- >> but they could only apply for it only in their kitchen. >> we work so hard to help everybody, and it just really bothers me when, you know, we're trying to help.

>> any other questions or comments? >> president bleiman: i hope it's not a glimpse into our future. i know there's going to be a lot more issues that come across us, but i just hope that, you know, business owners realize they're a lot better with us than with falzone's people. is there any public comment on this agenda item? >> i was just going to, before we go to public comment, ask about the midway.

do we want to have them come back in? >> honestly, edinburgh castle seems like the problem is not coming from them all the way across the bay and alameda is the one that's hearing it. blue light is the one that you can hear in noe valley, too. >> yeah, i have no idea if it's related to sort of how there are -- there's no tall buildings around them, but it's

pretty clear that the sound travels -- >> i think it's just an open field around there. >> not much, but they were over their sound limit quite a bit. >> president bleiman: when one of our inspectors shows up and somebody tells them to go pound sand, that is not good, and -- >> that's true. >> president bleiman: we have a duty to do here, and we're not -- we're not doing this just for fun. we have a purpose, and to have this blatant kind of disrespect, but i'd like to talk about it. thank you, commissioner thomas, for bringing that up. >> i just wanted to just add that the deputy director circle back to us and let us know if the midway owner is responsive?

i know that you'd said that you'd reached out to them today, so if they continue to be, you know, nonresponsive, i think that it's important that we bring them into commission and as we get prepared to launch the s.f. liverein in al the bad apples for all the new initiatives that will be launched for the city. >> president bleiman: all right. any other comments before we go to public comment? all right. is there any public comment on this agenda item? >> i'm just going to splash the slide again, just to be

consistent. there is none. >> president bleiman: all right. we'll close that, and let's move onto agenda item 5, update on implementation of small business recovery act and shared spaces legislation. i believe this is director weiland's. >> it is. i'm going to wait for dylan to bring up these awesome slides that you prepared. it's how we as an office are going to roll out sbra from shares spaces and dylan will take you through the criteria

that we want you to consider. bear with us. it's really important stuff, and it goes in line with what vice president caminong was just talking about. that s.f. live program is really ensuring that we can transition any eligible j.a.m.s to brick and mortar permits. so dylan, if you could go to the first slide. we're going to summarize these two pieces of legislation for you all and how it will affect the world and then share the timeline. here are the topics you can check out.

a little bit of breakdown. what changed? the small business recovery act went into effect on september 3, and we've been in implementation mode since, and for some of those items, we were able to roll out immediately, but we're sort of playing catch up in terms of our paperwork and how we're educating our industry about the changes. so essentially, this new legislation, sbra is really helping to sustain our industry by allowing for more regulatory flexibility in term of uses, duration of activity, and permit processes.

so the l.l.p. permit holders extends indoor entertainment activity until 11:00 p.m., and this should apply to most of our permit holders, which is fabulous. it also does not include, as a caveat, outdoor space. so police code still governs that 9:00 p.m. outdoors. after my items, dylan is going to be going through the criteria that we want your feedback on for the types of criteria that we can approve

instead of ones that we're going to develop criteria. there's a 60-day limited live performance permit, and this is created for pop-up retail space to see allow temporary indoor entertainment, and we're going to be able to approve those administratively. if you keep going, dylan. so there's more changes for sbra for us, which is really fantastic. it increases our flexibility for temporary uses for outdoor entertainment, authorizes ancillary and temporary indoor uses for one year, renewable for a second year? this is a nice kind of get around of planning code for some of us? also, the legislation enables the entertainment commission to

designate a business, and you'd actually be able to go and establish a nighttime entertainment use with a building permit regardless of underlying zoning. so if you have a p.o.e. for us, and we've run into this the last couple of years with us, you'll have ten years of on going use. beyond that, we are limiting a gratuitous permit, a one-night dance permit, which was created for one section of the city, and so it felt really unnecessary to have community

members, especially those from bipoc populations coming across down to apply for this essentially rubber stamped permit on top of a place of entertainment permit. so they're working with kaitlyn to come into compliance with the p.o.e. in this next year, and then, they will be managing the facilities themselves, and we will manage their permit through the p.o.e. dylan, if you could keep going? in terms of next steps for our brick and mortar permit changes, we're going to go to our data, which we're doing at present thanks to the lovely commission team, and we're going to look at our l.l.p. permit holders in restricted zones that their permitted are now valid until 11:00 p.m., and then 60 day l.l.p. is effective

immediately, and we're just going to be using our regular l.l.p. permits for the time being, and we can issue those administratively. in terms of our one-time outdoor event permits, we're going to have criteria that we can go over. we're going to ask you to look at things like 9:00 a.m., before 9:00 a.m. or after 10:00 p.m. activity as a part of the criteria as well as things that are over six hours long. in december 2021, we're going

to finalize these criteria upon expiration of the j.a.m. program at the end of june 2022. if you could keep moving us along. if you could keep going, dylan. this section covers the recent shared spaces legislation and how we're working to implement those changes in accordance with sbra, as well. so again, this leg was passed this year by the board and is building on the successes of the economic recovery task force, and it's going to transition from an emergency program to a permanent one, and eligible locations are going to be able to renew their shared

spaces permits on an annual basis. our role on this is we're going to work with the shared spaces team to find out who is going to be eligible for the permit program, and then of those permitees, which are for brick and mortar facilities, and how can we transition them into your existing program, either through brick and mortar or one-time event permits. again, we're going to be doing this as soon as possible in the winter and spring so that we can avoid any gaps between the j.a.m. program and permit holders getting a brick and mortar permit or a one-time permit. okay. next slide. just with the goal of ensuring some smooth transitions between these two programs, we're going to do our best to align jam conditions with what we recommend to all of you at the

commission hearing for a brick and mortar permits. so we're sort of in the sand box permit, as you all know. we're trying to reorganize our j.a.m. permits and we hope that all of our efforts are going to be worthy in terms of figuring out what works in the long-term. we're going to look to you to develop this criteria and what we bring to hearing versus what we bring to consent. we're also going to be looking at the uptick in complaints. about 30% more permits in our world now, and 30% more complaints, so we're going to need to look at what this means for our office in the future.

that's it for that. dylan, if you go to the next slide, i am almost done. so with the shared spaces permanency date extended to june 2022, we are working as best we can to update our brick and mortar program to permit applicants from j.a.m. to brick and mortar, and we're going to invite all of our eligible permit holders from the j.a.m. program to apply for the permit that makes sense for them, and then, again, we will educate everybody on the application process through webinars, e-mail, social media, website, and more. we're really only planning on doing one-on-one intake with

businesses in this program. everybody, we really plan to put on consent agenda as much as possible and also cut the intake time for their application. if you could go to the next slide -- i believe this is the last slide -- next slide. i think you're going backwards. yeah, keep going forwards. all right. the question slide. all right. so thanks for all of your attention here and your consideration. this is exciting stuff, but there's still a lot of details that we have to work through, so open to any questions or comments you might have, but also want to make sure you reserve any of your comments, especially very constructive comments, around our one-time approval processes to the next

item, when we review that criteria. >> president bleiman: questions? not seeing any. >> all of our permits are digital p.d.f., so we're hoping that we can get the program launched in time, which really could just be our j.a.m. program transition into a brick and mortar application and it could be a billiard parlor or

something. we're trying not to make our work that much harder. >> president bleiman: do we have an idea of what's going to happen to the people's permits whose j.a.m. permits are not in the permitted spaces, when they're in a public plaza or adjacent area or something like that? >> yeah, it sort of depends. there's many different ways that you can activate through shared spaces right now? there's public space and private space. public space is going to be through us and planning for the most part to activate a space? if you're talking about parking

lot, they may issue a permit for the entire year to use that parking lot. we'll have some caveat language in there that the permit no longer exists, and you would not be able to use that from shared space. >> president bleiman: all right. anymore questions? comments? this is exciting, everyone. as long as some people don't ruin it for all of us. all right. public comment? >> clerk: i'm checking, and there is none. >> president bleiman: all right. well, let's move onto the next agenda item. lots of interesting stuff today. it's not the normal hearing.

it's kind of exciting. number 6, which is discussion, yes, discussion and possible action to adopt commission versus administrative review criteria for making a determination on one time event permit applications with outdoor amplified sound and arrest outdoor entertainment and requesting extended duration per article 15.1 of the police code. >> dylan, go for it. >> i will do my best. tonight, we're asking the commission to vote on when extended duration should go to

the commission for hearing or review. so again, this applies to one-time outdoor events that are requesting amplified sound or entertainment for more than 12 days per year or before 9:00 a.m. or after 10:00 p.m. so after hours, or more than six hours per day. and you'll find in your folder the memo from director weiland that provides the details, background, and our staff recommendations. so here's some factors to consider when we want to develop criteria. this can guide our application review process.

one factor is neighborhood density and make up. so what's the number, what's the proximity of neighbors as well as permitted premises? also, thinking about the location's history of complaint violations? there have been a number of complaints violations for the same location? if there's been a number of complaints, has the owner of the location come into compliance? and then number of days or hours of outdoor amplified sound or entertainment. thinking about the number of sound, musicians, sizes of those or number of those. amplified music is obvious louder than amplified streaming music, like a playlist.

another one would be the historic precedent for holding the event at that location. has it happened before with similar activity, similar footprint? if it did happen before, were there complaints or violations? given we have two hearings a month, and we have to do public agenda five days before each hearing, should there be an administrative pathway for reviewing applications that are submitted in not enough time? so this is a high-level slide for what we think should be our general recommendations. overall, we think we should be doing hearings for

neighborhoods that have an impact. the rationale is these events would require a public hearing in order to increase public or neighborhood input, so elevating these applications to a public forum will support our department's goal in balancing neighborhood capability with cultural vibrancy, and also, smaller events with lesser impacts or events with history of no complaints or violations can be reviewed by the director with the goal of being more efficient and being more timely. so these slides are going to breakdown what our recommendations are. it's listed in the memo detail, but the bucket by now is applications that go to commission review and commission hearing. so this would be an outdoor

event that has any hearing. one would be an event requesting activity before 9:00 a.m. or after 10:00 p.m., and we do have some exceptions for events with precedent, and i'm going to go over that in a few more slides ahead, and the other one would be at the director's discretion. within each hearing category, we want to just talk about our recommendations for when something should be on a regular agenda. of these events that are trigger already to go to

commission hearing, we would set the agenda for all of these hearings that have all of these criteria. it's an annual or reoccurring event at the same location, or for an event that doesn't have street closure, it would be two performance areas or amplified sound equipment areas. and everything that does not fall into that would not be in that. so then, we have things that

don't have the conditional characteristics. and within those -- that pool, that would include after events that are requesting more than six hours per day of amplified sound or entertainment, and then, events with a precedent that are -- that are before 9:00 a.m. or after 10:00 p.m. they have to have location, hours, footprint the same as before. they can't have any substantial complaints or violations during the preceding event, and they have to provide their plan to neighborhood outreach with us in advance. a note on processing lead times, the commission staff will make every effort to bring

permit to hearing if time allows. thank you for your attention. and if you provide any feedback tonight, we'll provide the finalized criteria at our next commission meeting, and director weiland and i are here to answer any questions you may have. >> president bleiman: questions? >> thank you for putting all of this together. i feel like this is a very clear and thoughtful set of criteria? i don't feel like i have anything to add? i feel like this will -- other than, you know, maybe we should assess it in a year or after the bulk of permits have

transitioned over and just kind of see if that seemed to work and if we're hitting the right balance between things that are done administratively and things that go to the commission? i am mindful of the increased amount of complaints between outdoor sound and the need to really balance enjoyment and promotion of entertainment but i feel like the staff is more than anyone else attuned to the nuances and they have a feeling of what should come before the commission. overall, i support the staff recommendations, and i look forward to this whole new world

of moving all of these folks over from one point to another. >> this is time sensitive, resolving this? >> mostly just because of the education purposes, we want to kind of cleanup all those businesses in advance as much as we can. very similar when we created r.d.r. not necessarily, but the sooner the better, and we're going to have to have a follow up hearing where we show you this. >> president bleiman: when is our next summit? when do we do our next summit? >> it's unplanned, really. >> president bleiman: because of covid? >> not necessarily.

just because we're short staffed and making sure we're preparing for this huge change. essentially, we're going to be managing 30% more permits than normal. >> in principle, i totally agree with laura, i think this is something we could do at a summit where we could all vet these topics out, but if that's not a possibility -- >> do you think more at a summit, you'd get more feedback? >> no, i think it would be easier to kick all the elements around. >> oh, you meant at a retreat. >> yeah, that's what i meant.

i do recall at our annual thing. >> president bleiman: i do recall at our annual retreat one of the things was to cleanup or code and to streamline things, so this kind of fits with that direction. >> well, sbra made a lot of changes to code that are in line of cleaning up. i want to work with commissioner thomas who's with our police code, as well. i think as we can sort of cross off our list of to-do's, we want to do it as we can mostly because there's a lot on our plate as we prepare for

transition here, yeah. >> yeah, i'm on board. >> okay. >> and this stuff isn't coming out of the ether. we've managed this type of program for as long as we've been around, and dylan has been working on data relative to outdoor events for five years, too, and i think a got of this is guided, like, by the pains and woes of the applicants for a location because it's going to have a bigger impact on a location in a neighborhood. >> president bleiman: anymore questions?

is there any public comment on this agenda item? >> operator: i'm just going to share the slide just for a few seconds. and i'm checking, and there is none. >> president bleiman: okay. we can close public comment and have more of a discussion. just to remind everyone, if anyone wants to make a motion, it would be a motion to adopt administrative review criteria for making a decision on permitting for one-time event application. and i think that's adequate language, and then, we had staff recommendations, and we may want to adopt it with the staff recommendations, if not our own. so the first thing i'll ask is we have a motion on the floor

to adopt these changes. >> so moved. >> president bleiman: okay. and is there a second? >> second. >> president bleiman: all right. we have had public comment. we have had discussion, and we have a motion and a second. i think we can have a roll call. >> clerk: okay. [roll call] >> president bleiman: congratulations to our code. it's now cleaner, and commissioner falzon, i promise that we'll come up with something else code related to talk about so we keep your interest in the retreat so your eyes don't glaze over. all right.

now, i feel like we're just fixing everything. we have number 7, hearing and possible action regarding applications for permitted under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. i'll ask director azevedo to introduce it. >> thank you. it's for underground grill king, at 2543 noriega street. the owner conducted neighborhood outreach and collected signatures of support from their neighboring businesses, which you can find in your file.

there was no opposition to this permit, and taraval station did not submit a file. as such, the recommendation is to approve the permit with the good neighbor policy. here to speak to you tonight is the owner, meiyu chen. >> clerk: all right. i will bring in meiyu chen right now. hello. meiyu, if you can hear us, please unmute yourself. >> hello. >> clerk: hello. >> can you guys hear me? >> we can hear you but not see you. >> hi. my name is meiyu, and i'm the

new owner of underground grill king, located at 2543 noriega street. >> president bleiman: thanks. meiyu. what we would usually ask you is tell us a little bit about your project. what you're going to be using entertainment for, whether it's different from the previous owner or the same. just tell us a little bit about it, but usually a couple of minutes suffices. >> yeah, we're going to stay the same as what the previous owner does? and people in the restaurant can have, like, [indiscernible] and they can, like -- karaoke, and they can, like, sing it. [indiscernible] the previous owners is doing the barbecue

skewers, so i'm planning on having with that, as well, something like that. >> president bleiman: great. and can you tell us, are you going to have separate rooms for karaoke or is it just one main room -- >> no. actually, the karaoke will be in the separate room, so people will have dining for privacy and karaoke. it will be in the room. >> president bleiman: got it. questions -- do we have any questions for meiyu? >> how many -- are you actually changing anything? you have the same amount of rooms or -- >> yeah, everything same. >> everything basically same, same sound system? >> yeah. >> so you're not really improving anything other than maybe you're changing the food, right? >> yes, yes. >> okay. >> yes. >> and i don't think -- i don't

know, has this -- i don't think this place had any complaints from before -- yeah. i mean, it's a restaurant with karaoke. not much other than that. are you planning to -- what's your hours, again? i have to look at the application. are you -- you're just going until when the restaurants close or are you planning to be serving food all the way to 2:00 in the morning? >> the answer is [indiscernible] depends on the economics. right now, we only go up to 12:00. >> yeah. and how long have you had the restaurant, have you taken over?

>> six months. >> we're all feeling the same thing, so just curious. okay. i don't have any questions. it doesn't seem anything's really changed. >> president bleiman: anymore questions for meiyu? i don't have a question, meiyu, but i would just, because this -- i'm the industry rep, if there are problems with sound and noise, business owners who take the time to speak with neighbors have no problems, and ones who don't have many, many problems, and it also comes along with the good neighbor policy, but that kind of proactive attitude has been very effective in keeping you from having to deal with us

ever again. any more questions from meiyu? that's my cat. she's being annoying. well, thank you very much for letting us know about the project. we're going to now open things up to public comment, and i will ask senior analyst reizik if we have any. >> clerk: all right. i'm going to flash the slide again. just for a few seconds. there's no public comment. >> president bleiman: all right. let's go ahead and close public comment. is there a motion? >> i move to approve staff

recommendation. >> second. >> president bleiman: all right. we can vote. >> clerk: all right. one second. [roll call] >> president bleiman: all right. congratulations, meiyu. it's been approved. your next step is to follow up with our staff for the next steps that they have. >> thank you. >> president bleiman: wish you great luck in your business there in taraval. >> all right. thank you. bye-bye. >> president bleiman: all right. the next agenda item is number -- oh, we always have to do this now. number 8, which is consideration and possible action to adopt a resolution making findings to allow teleconferenced meetings under california government code section 54953, and the first

thing i'll ask, is there any public comment on this agenda item? >> operator: checking, and there's none. >> president bleiman: okay. and correct me, we have to vote on this, right? >> operator: every 30 days when there's a hearing. >> president bleiman: all right. is there a motion to adopt a 30-day resolution to make findings to allow teleconference meetings under the california government code section something? >> so moved. >> president bleiman: is there a second? >> second. >> president bleiman: all right. we can vote. >> clerk: okay. [roll call] >> president bleiman: oh, another month of zoom. congratulations, everyone. and finally, i believe, is number 9, which is commissioner

comments and questions, and new business requests for future agenda items. anybody got something to say? i've got some things, but i'll go last. >> just director weiland mentioned the need to cleanup the code, and i know that was on my plate, and it fell off in my crazy thing over the summer, so let's get that back together. i think it was commissioner falzon and myself and commissioner perez, maybe, but we can reconvene with staff and at least have an initial call about that. >> i think that would be great. i think, commissioner thomas, kaitlyn and i have something that we want to present to you and president bleiman first so we're on the same track.

we have at least one code initiative that we want to tackle first, and then, we can get that on the rest of your agenda. >> okay. yeah, that sounds good. let's schedule that and then move forward. >> president bleiman: great. anybody else? all right. i've got a couple of things here. one, what a joy it was to see a couple of you yesterday with the mayor at the bottom of the hill to announce $2.5 million for local venues and promoters and artists. we're going to promote it. it's called s.f. live, great name, and we're going to be giving out grants to local venues and artists and promoters and have a series of concerts and plays in various city owned property around the city of san francisco. this is very exciting.

it also has the potential to be something that is not just a one-year thing. it's something that we have on going and it's funded. this has been the brain child of the bearded brain, ben van houten. it's free money from the state, i'm excited about it, and i've literally had calls from people. it made a splash. two, shameless self-promotion, i have a podcast now. it's called the fun police -- scratch that. i don't think i'm going to promote that. commissioner thomas i think will be the next to come on and talk about harm reduction. commissioner wang is in

patagonia, and she got engaged to her partner today. >> oh, how sweet. >> president bleiman: she sent me a wonderful picture, too. all right. i think that's it. is there any other comments? none? public comment on this agenda item? >> operator: i'm checking, and there is none. >> president bleiman: all right. i will adjourn the meeting. it is 7:00 p.m. nicely done. lot of things done in a short period of time. thank you. all right. bye. .

>> 21 meeting of the san franciscoboard of appeals. president honda will hopefully be joining us shortly.also present is vice president swig, commissioner lazarus and commissioner lopez . commissionerchang is absent. we will provide the board with any immediate legal advice today . i'm julie rosenberg for the secretary. we will be joined by representatives from the planning department, the zonin administrator and commissioner janet deputies zoning administrator . board guidelines are as follows. silence all phones