antonio moved to a different department so i have made contact with the new planning department members so i'll be meeting with them soon and i will be able to i believe in my report the 2008 bond is pretty much wrapped up if i remember right. 2013 was also kind of they moved some money around and those projects are looking to close out 2022-2023. so ultimately i've been visiting parks and enjoying, took my grandson to mccaron park i look forward to the new contacts, the new planning contacts and getting the plans for the upcoming bond, which i believe i could not tell you right now actually so i'm not going to say it.

that's pretty much my report. basically i'll have more report once i meet with the new contacts. thank you. >> great. thanks. do we have any public comment? or other committee questions, sorry. ok. >> i would like to matthew, commissioner, yes i will look into the comments earlier on the native first peoples i think that is key, i've made note of that. maybe i'll have something to report on that as well. >> good thanks. just things have you know area is sort of fitting in terms of open space preservation and stewardship of the land. thanks. >> i think it makes great sense. public space is a great place to start. great. >> thank you.

any public comment on this item? >> members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item should call 1-415-655-0001, and access code 1878632180 then press pound and pound again. if you have not already done so please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. please notice you are allowed three minutes. i'm looking at the caller queue and don't see any hands raised. >> thanks. so maybe we move to the next item number 8 please. >> sure. review of the draft citizens' general obligation bond oversight committee report

fiscal year 2019-2020 and 2020-2021. presenter is peg stevenson. >> good morning, everyone. this is good news. thank you all of you who wrote text on your liaison sections for the report. it feels quite complete to me. we compiled them and just filled in a couple of blanks where you guys had a member resign or some other missing piece of information. i circulated the draft ahead of time to chair and the vice chair. vice chair mathews proof read it and gave me a couple things as needed and my own staff for consistency and references so i feel it's in very good shape and would you like me to pull it up on the screen and step through it or did people have a chance to page through it in their

packet? what would be helpful? >> i have a real easy correction to make peg. capitalization of the first bullet point under my liaison report. there were two bullet points, two-thirds of the way down my report and one of them, first letter was an i a lower case, and the previous bullet point it was an upper case. easily fixed. >> i see it. got you. >> good. i can point it out to you. >> no i see it. >> all right. >> thanks peg for your staff's work on this. i don't know we need to scroll through it with everybody unless someone feels strongly otherwise. i think we have it in our packets. i have taken a look yeah we

are -- i agree with peg's assessment that we are right there. and for the record my correction were the spelling of my last name because whatever. >> who would know better than you. >> i spell it right and they spell it wrong. but anyway -- >> when i had cut and paste your text into the whole, i left off a sentence and i would not have known that if you had not reread it. so thank you. >> i think we are ok to move on to this, and am i correct we'll have the final for our next meeting? >> no if we are satisfied with it you can approve it today and just give it a publication date and go ahead and post it on the committee website and circulate it to our usual suspects. by way of context so people notice that there's two tables at the back there's a summary

chart showing status of the bond programs and then a detailed chart showing finances by programs. in the first quarter of next fiscal year my office will publish our detailed obligation bond report which in pastimes have been attached to yours. ours is lagging yours and it will have more detailed schedules. it won't have exactly the same sort of dial graphics that were in the last one, but it will have high point narrative on each of the bond programs some of the same summary of financials and a little bit more detailed financials on each program. so like we talked about before this -- that report is lagging yours. i think it's very smart for you

to publish yours and not wait for ours but the two will be posted together eventually in the web section so any readers could look at yours and then look at the city's own publication on this. if you are ready to approve it today, we'll get it ready for publication and put it out hopefully later this week. >> i would move we approve the draft annual report in our packet. >> i'll second that. >> great. we'll take a roll to accept the motion and second. >> ok. [roll call vote taken] >> i'm sorry. public comment first?

>> ok. >> sorry, my bad. >> get away from a clean get-away. >> yeah may we take public comment please. >> members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item call 1-415-655-0001, access code 1878632180, then pound and pound again. if you have not already done so please dial star 3 to line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. you will have three minutes. i don't see any hands raised. >> thanks. now for roll then. >> sure. [roll call vote taken]

quorum. >> thank you. may we move to item 9 please. >> yes. item 9, opportunity for committee members to comment to take action on any matters within the committee's jurisdiction. 9-1, fiscal year 2021 to 2022, cgoboc work initiative. a, public perception survey b independent review of the whistleblower program. 9-2, other committee business, 2a, public finance upcoming bond issuances, b, expenditure audits, c public integrity

review d year 2021-2022 workplan updates and e cgoboc members' terms updates. >> good morning again folks. peg stevenson here from the controller's office. i'll run down all of these items and call on other staff as they come up. public perception survey so to refresh people's memory, this is would be the next in a series of ongoing public perception surveys on bond funds the committee has desired to do. we worked with you to do 12 years ago where we tested public perception on a street project and a park project intercept surveys and follow-up interviews. we had talked about the next one, which would have focussed possibly on housing, jane was

interested in that and between her resignation and the logistical challenges of surveying on housing we talked last time about not going for housing and going instead for other bond programs which are more discreet and easier to design surveys for. i pulled a list of project completions in the last two years and looked through it so that's one set of information. the other is we are in a little bit of a squeeze with the survey providers expires in the spring and we need to be under contract by mid march in order to get this done. which i think is very much doable. i've had a staff person working on a draft, but it becomes more doable if you can narrow your selection to again discreet project simply to design the survey for.

my recommendation is going to be you do it for a park project. there have been a lot of completions and the design in the survey will be very straightforward. all the other completions that i've looked at are less straightforward so what i would like to do is work with member pantoja to review the parks completions and give him the cost and some other criteria which you might want to use to make a choice on this and ask him to work with the liaison to select a project and finalize the scope of work and then i think we could get into contract during january. my goal would be to have this survey in the field in the late winter/early spring. the reporting should be pretty straightforward and to finish it before the end of the fiscal year. so that's my proposal at this point.

and i see the vice chair owed nodding and mr. pantoja as well. >> through the chair mathews, so you said fiscal year is looking -- we would have the surveys done or a list of projects to be surveyed? >> i have a list of projects to send you right now, and we can work together on the choice and i have a draft scope of work and outreach which has already been done to the qualified providers who can do this type of surveying. so i am hoping to get a contract negotiated and done during january, and they could be in the field during the late winter/early spring, and again, i don't think this is a large project so i think the reporting can be pretty quick. so my goal would be to get it done and have the reporting available to you for towards the end of this fiscal year and put it out before the end of the fiscal year.

>> outstanding. so that, would that be more than one project that would be surveyed, or are we talking one out of the list? >> i think we should just pick one for simplicity and execution sake. >> okay. i'll be looking for your communication to meet or discuss that. >> great. >> and again i think i mentioned this last time but we also we have a more generalized interest in surveying the public on housing matters which is bound up both with you know publicly-funded bond programs, other sources of funding on housing, the city's programmatic on housing we think would be smart for a couple different program areas and policy bodies and stakeholders to get more public feedback on the city's housing program and investment, but it's a bigger project and we are hoping to get that underway

next calendar year. so i'll go to the independent review of the whistleblower program. similarly we have a pool of vendors that are qualified to work on this and a draft scope of work. sent them both to chair mchugh and was not aware until late last week that she is having to really not work much if at all, due to her, she's expecting a baby in january she had said she was willing to continue to serve through the end of the fiscal year but sounds like working is less possible for her. so i don't want to burden her with follow-up work with us on choosing this vendor and finalizing the scope of work. so i think i'll go to vice chair mathews for that task if he's willing and i think we should be able to get into contract and scope of work finalized and a couple of decisions that need

one of your support rather than go back to chair mchugh i'll go to vice chair mathews for that support and we can move it forward that way. >> yeah absolutely. >> ok. other committee business. public finance. i will pause and ask if others can comment on this item. >> yes, hello. can you hear me? good morning, members of the committee office of public finance. it's not very -- we are currently making preparations to allow for a possible refunding issuance in 2022 of the maturity outstanding maturities in june should market conditions continue to be favorable. we also have place holders on the calendar for follow-up

issuance of recovery bonds that was approved in the fall. also an issuance but certain projects were not ready yet and we have a place holder to follow up on that and fund those. and then also one for seawall as well. i think based on the last conversations with the project department we don't have a firm timeline for those, we'll have more information about those in early 2022. happy to take any questions if there are any. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next item are two from the audit unit. again, whenever there is an expenditure audit there is hearing at your committee and same on the public integrity reviews. i don't see anybody on the roster there the audits group.

i have the email from mark delarosa about this subject. his report is on the expenditure audit, no new update since the last meeting a total of ten, seawall bond safety program and public integrity reviews, no new updates since the last meeting. our last issuance was the seventh public integrity report on the department of building inspection issued september 16, 2021. c.s.a. audits planned for the next, on the community benefit social impact program later this week or next week and in addition c.s.a. audits is working on three additional assessments in this area the department of the environment compliance with ethics rules which they anticipate issuing in january 2022 contract and

procurement in march of 2022 and city-wide ethics reporting requirements anticipated issuance in april 2022. so i apologize, i would not be able to take questions on that but looking at the unit schedule, make sure we queue them up for the hearing items the next year and make sure there are times issued as the next meetings occur. and workplan updates. the only item here is that in the prior draft of your workplan mid year update from the units that have gone over everything that occurred during the first half of the fiscal year. we asked to postpone that so

just moving that item from this meeting to your next meeting the only change in the workplan. and item e members terms updates. so there are a number of vacancies as i'm sure you are aware. i have met with both the mayor's office liaison, appointments liaison and with the staff person at supervisor peskin's office in charge of recruitment and approval at the rules committee. they are aware, myself and ben have promised to work with them and help them provide them with candidate names and suggestions fulfilling the vacancies and i have made them both aware of their urgency of doing so, just because of a quorum risk if nothing else and need to have the vacancies filled so you can more fully complement your work among you. i'm reasonably hopeful about the

mayor's office being able to act quickly once we have helped them identify appropriate candidates. board processes take longer, a committee hearing and board approval. i've asked them to cue it up after the start of the new year and if we could have people approved in order to seat them at the february 28th meeting that would be ideal. but it's hard to tell with the board. depends on the r -- recruitment effort. i have to reach out to chair mchugh and how she is feeling and what she might be able to do. she said she could serve through the end of the fiscal year even though her baby comes in january, but it would be smarter to replace her sooner if possible so i'll just touch base with her and take her temperature and then bring that information back to the appointing authority. >> ok.

>> on behalf of all of us thank you for your service and we'll work to bring it up to full speed. >> peg, if we have candidates that we would like to have considered should we send their information to you? >> yes, please. absolutely. >> ok. i mean i saw on the list there were two people that need to work with community organizations, or two openings, and then i can't remember -- business organization. right, right. so we have an opening, someone with a business organization and two, with people who have been involved or are involved with community organizations. i think that helps us then recruit people who we think would be good. ok. i do have someone in mind i'll send that contact information to you. >> great. thank you very much appreciated,

and as you know sometimes a little bit tricky filling these seats for a couple of reasons, but ben and i will take any suggestions and do a little vetting and see if we can help figure out like who might be best appointing authority and follow up with them. so that's my report and concludes item 9. >> thank you, peg. any public comments on this item? >> members of the public who wish to provide public comment on this item call 1-415-655-0001, access code 1878632180, then pound and pound again. if you have not already done so star 3 to line up to speak. the system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand. please wait until the system

indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. please note you have three minutes. i don't see any hands raised. >> thanks roseanne. and any other committee comments on this item? otherwise i'll entertain a motion to adjourn. >> so moved. >> moved. >> second. >> for the record, it's 10:56 a.m. >> thanks everybody. >> thanks again for all your work. enjoy your holidays. >> thank you you, too. >> yes, everybody, enjoy your holidays.

>> i personally love the mega jobs. i think they're a lot of fun. i like being part of a build that is bigger than myself and outlast me and make a mark on a landscape or industry. ♪ we do a lot of the big sexy jobs the stacked towers transit center a lot of the note worthy projects. i'm second generation construction. my dad was in it and for me it

just felt right. i was about 16 when i first started drafting home plans for people and working my way through college. in college i became a project engineer on the job, replacing others who were there previously and took over for them. the transit center project is about a million square feet. the entire floor is for commuter buses to come in and drop off, there will be five and a half acre city park accessible to everyone. it has an amputheater and water marsh that will filter it through to use it for landscaping. bay area council is big here in the area and they have a gender equity group. i love going to the workshops. it's where i met jessica. >> we hit it off, we were both

in the same field and the only two women in the same. >> through that friendship did we discover that our projects are interrelated. >> the projects provide the power from san jose to san francisco and end in the trans bay terminal where amanda was in charge of construction. >> without her project basically i have a fancy bus stop. she has headed up the women's network and i do too. we have exchanged a lot of ideas on how to get groups to work together. it's been a good partnership for us. >> women can play leadership role in this field. >> i tell him that the schedule

is behind his work is crappy. he starts dropping f-bombs and i say if you're going to talk to me like that the meeting is over. so these are the challenges that we face over and over again. the reality, okay, but it is getting better i think. >> it has been great to bond with other women in the field. we lack diversity and so we have to support each other and change the culture a bit so more women see it as a great field that they can succeed in. >> what drew me in i could use more of my mind than my body to get the work done. >> it's important for women to network with each other especially in construction. the percentage of women and men in construction is so different. it's hard to feel a part of something and you feel alone. >> it's fun to play a leadership

role in an important project this is important for the transportation of the entire peninsula. >> to have that person -- of women coming into construction, returning to construction from family leave and creating the network of women that can rely on each other. >> women are the main source of income in your household. show of hands. >> people are very charmed with the idea of the reverse role that there's a dad at home instead of a mom. you won't have gender equity in the office until it's at home. >> whatever you do be the best you can be. don't say i can't do it you can excel and do whatever you want. just put your mind into it.

>> supervisor melgar: good afternoon. this meeting will come to order. welcome to the december 13, 2021 regular meeting of the land use transportation committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. i'mi would also like to acknowledge the good folks at sfgov tv for staffing us during this meeting. you have any announcements? >> clerk: the committee members participated in this remote meeting through video conference. the board recognizes that public access to city services is essential and invites public participation. public comment will be available on each item on this agenda.

either channel 26, 78 or 99 and sfgov tv are streaming the public call-in number across the screen. each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak. you can call the number on your screen (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. today is 2492 843 1104 then press pound and pound again. you will hear the meeting discussion you will be muted and in listen mode only. when your item interest comes up please dial star and 3 to be added to the speaker line. best practices are to call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and turn down your

television or radio. you may submit public comment to me via e-mail, land use transportation clerk. if you send public comment via e-mail it will be made part of the of the official meeting. finally, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the january 4, 2022 board of supervisors' agenda. madam chair. >> supervisor melgar: thank you. for those joining us for public comment today please note that

we will be calling items 3 and 4 together later on in this meeting. please call item number 1. >> clerk: item number 1 is the hearing to discuss the state of sidewalk conditions and ongoing maintenance strategy to ensure variant accessibility for people with disability. members of the public wish to provide public comment call the number on the screen. that number is (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. today is 2492 843 1104 press pound issue pound again. ifthe system will indicate that you have raised your hand and confirmation. >> supervisor melgar: thank you very much. today, we have this hearing on the state of the sidewalk. our city, you called this hearing at the request of a number of community members who

were growing increasingly concerned with difficulty of navigating hazardous sidewalks especially people who have limited mobility because of a disability or age. residents were feeling that the process of making official complaints or repair is not transparent or efficient. it's quite confusing. i hope that today's hearing will uplift the experiences and challenges and also prompt us to do better as a city and-in addressing some of the basic concerns regarding accessibility and safety. i asked representatives from d.p.w. to join us to describe the process how issues are addressed so we can put it out there and perhaps work through some of these issues. we're also joined by deborah

kaplan from the mayor's office of disability. thank you so much for being here. to provide insight on how they advise on these issues. we must be honest that damaged sidewalks and routing alternatives are not always safe.

we became aware of how things we can take for granted. before we hear from the city department i like to invite jennifer welsh from the community living campaign to present. the community living campaign creates community networks and advocates so that seniors and people with disabilities can be heard and thrive. they are active in my district in my district 7. which i very much appreciate. we also -- her suggestion from senior disability action in shaping this hearing. i want to thank both of these organizations for their input and for being here today.

i know some of the members will be calling in for public comment. i would like to bring up jennifer to present. in the interest of keep things moving i will be asking if you can keep time to 5 minutes. jennifer, are you here? >> yes. >> good afternoon chair melgar, supervisor peskin and supervisor preston, i'm jennifer welsh, the sf sidewalk search party facilitator, c.l.c. we have been cultivating

connections to help seniors and people with disability and thrive at homed as a a nonprofit for over 14 years. the s.f. sidewalk search party came out of frustration for spending more time walking to work. >> chair melgar: hold on a second jennifer. madam clerk please advance the slides. >> the s.f. sidewalk engage residents to search for sidewalks. for example we've met with the sfmta, public works and bureau of urban forestry and staff. we created a contest called broken sidewalks contestants

took photos of sidewalks and included a rubber duck to highlight the problem area. we worked with the bureau urban forestry to get sidewalks with two inch ride down. we started a video project called the sidewalk search party newscast. we asked residents to make a one minute video to be part of the show. i use a wheelchair. many people without disabilities have had similar experiences. here are some examples how people get injured on san francisco's sidewalks. i rounded the corner on to a side street and felt my foot hit the concrete before i went flying forward. i looked at the sidewalk large blocks of concrete. semitruck driver was reversing.

a good samaritan had to run over to tell the driver to stop moving. a blind pedestrian walked into unsecured and unmarked scaffolding and hit by fallen debris and taken to the hospital. a part of the sidewalk had scaffolding not lit. it was dark and i couldn't go on the streets because of cars and rain next to the scaffolding. there was a piece of plywood as i stepped on it, i can feel it gave way but it was too late. it was a big fall and i hit my upper lip. the person in this picture decided to head across at as faultacross theasphalt. he sank further in the asphalt. unfortunately, this is not uncommon at construction sites. it should never happen. we recently met with the bureau

street use and mapping the a.d.a. coordinator for public mayor office of disability. we needed a dictionary of acronyms just to follow the conversation. the bureau of street use and mapping gave us an internal flowchart how they route 311 sidewalk complaints. we really don't understand the process. that's what we're hoping to learn at today's hearing. we also wanted to bring the experiences of others to this hearing. we created a survey in english. we had 165 people respond from all over the city and 89% were seniors and people with disabilities. 55% of people said they frequently encounter unsafe or inaccessible sidewalks.

153 people out of the 165 who answered our survey came across to navigate sidewalks regularly. 78% said that san francisco's sidewalks are not well maintain maintained. to sum up i like to share a comment from someone who took our survey. my health depends on walking for exercise and for social contact. fall risks is always a concern and there's a lot of work to get to an accessible safe condition. thank you, supervisor melgar for calling this hearing so all departments that are a role in maintaining our sidewalk have an opportunity to share share processes and to hear from the public. thank you. >> chair melgar: thank you so much jennifer. that was a great presentation. i love the sidewalk, clap me up

campaign. humor, a very effective way to get your point across. thank you so much. now, i like to invite the staff from public works to present. we have michael lennon from d.p.w. as well as nicholas crawford. mr. lennon i'm hoping you can walk us through the process ever repair is we can understand what it is. you have seven minutes for that and mr. crawford will have up to five minutes for his part as well. welcome to land use committee. >> thank you for having us. i'm manager with the san francisco public works bureau street and mapping and the inspection and enforcement

division. we are largely a reactive entity. historically public works receives between 1200 and 1500 complaints each month. all complaints are directed to the bureau street and mapping. whether they come through 311 or referrals from your offices or otherwise. as they are taken, they are assigned a unique identifier, request for action number that is used to track the matter for intake to completion. each different type of sidewalk or complaint topic has a different service level agreement associated with it. the topic of today's presentation is on sidewalk and construction of public right-of-way. they have three business day response time from the time of first action. you can see in the photos here

there are green tape markings on the sidewalk. we use paint. most responsibility is on the adjacent property owner for maintenance on the public works code 706. in this instance, the green paint marks the city responsibility due to presence of trees. whereas white paint is used to identify property owner responsibility. as i touched on in the prior slide, property owners are mostly responsible. except in a few circumstances.

some of businesses are caused by city main tree after implementation of a property several years ago. when damages went into a return, at the corner zone where the a.d.a. accessible ramps are located. if the damage is related to a utility or if there are certain special cases such as the bricks on market street. property owners do have a responsibility from the front of their property to the curve. in making the repairs once we responded, we taken the initial action the inspector are tasks with identifying, confirming whether or not -- >> chair melgar: sorry to stop

you. i'm still seeing only the first slide. is it just me or everybody else able to see page 3. >> clerk: we can see the current slide. i can see a copy of their presentation. >> looks like she's froze. >> clerk: madam chair? okay there she is. >> supervisor preston: i see chair melgar was frozen. are you still with us? you are muted.

>> chair melgar: the storm is really bad in my area. i do have my device on in case i need to hot spot it. forgive me, i switched internet. i'm sorry i got frozen. everybody else able to see slide 3 of the presentation? >> yes. >> supervisor peskin: yes, we are. >> chair melgar: okay, it's just me. >> sorry about that. >> clerk: you're in 2 minutes 40 seconds in. >> once the inspector visits the site and they take first action, whether we are issuing a notice to repair to a property owner or interagency referral to either a public utility or a city agency,

the initial notices provide a 30-day window for repair. then reinspection is performed to verify whether or not the repairs have been made and property owners provided a second final notice, which additional 15 days. then if the conditions that at issue have not been abated upon the reinspection then it will be subject to abatement by a city contractor. there is a little bit of nuance within city responsibility. property owned by department of real estate are treated in the same manner as a private property owner.

the san francisco unified district is a state agency. while we have worked with them to try to get contribution or coordination on it, ultimately, that does fall to the city for repair as supposed the school district. there are a good number of codes that apply to either 706 at the top there and then there are a number of other codes that have a more granular reversal or regulation of the types of use occupancy or responsibility for repair sidewalks. we included a pretty exhaustive list but it's a pretty lengthy list. i'm not going trying to go into that. there are any follow-up questions about code specific

items, i'll be happy to follow-up with you offline with those. i believe this is just another continuation more of the same codes and that that is from construction site and occupancy to table and chairs. >> clerk: your five minutes is up. >> i did talk about lot of our reactive approach which is the majority of our work. we also do have a proactive arm and that is through the sidewalk inspection and repair program. this implemented back in 2007-2008 when gavin newsom was mayor was intended to in and repair all sidewalks in san francisco on 25-year rolling basis. that breaks down to 200,000

square foot sidewalk repair annually. we did have a few setbacks due to covid. our contracts are up and running and completing repairs. then the other program that we have that's administered is the accelerated sidewalk abatement program. whereas the sirp program is proactive. this is a reactive program. it does focus on high priority sites for claims have been filed or other high priority issues that need to be abated. this is where property owner or another entity doesn't complete the repairs after we've gone

through the process. it will be referred to the accelerated sidewalk abatement program and their properties will be posted and abated by our contractor with the cost of repairs as well as inspection fees. i will turn it over to my colleague, nick crawford. >> chair melgar: i do have couple of questions and then my colleagues may as well. thank you so much for explaining the color coding. that's like transformative. is that on your website anywhere? is there a way that we can let the public know what these different colors on the dots? it's xs and dots. i understood what the difference was. is there any way to let the

public at large know what this is? >> i want to say yes, it is on our website. i think it is. i'm not 100%. i believe it is on our website. then the color coding and the breakdown who's responsible based on what color is in included in the specific repair notices that are issued to property owners when issue need to be repaired or identified. >> chair melgar: the person with a disability, trying to walk down the sidewalk doesn't necessarily know what's in the notice to the owner. who makes -- is it the inspector that makes the determination about -- i know, for example on my street, the p.u.c. repaved

after changing out the water pipes. in doing that, they messed up all the sidewalks. i'm wondering who makes the determination about like who's responsibility? is it something that's caused by the public activity? >> it would be the screen inspector responds to the complaint. they will be the initial person to accessed the scene and make the initial findings. if there are complaints or mention of like a public utilities project or a pg&e excavation in the area, we do feel complaints where they say this sidewalk was damaged by pg&e excavator or similar. then that is considered.

we will connect with the utility company or sister agency to determine whether or not they should be held responsible for those repairs versus the default. >> chair melgar: someone in the public just walking down the sidewalk, wouldn't necessarily know any of this? >> no. the biggest indicator would be if the sidewalk is marked, the dots usually the color coded dots usually indicates that one of our inspectors has been there. they issued a notice. the xs usually are put on there pre-construction. that is like the follow-up pre-construction meeting we will walk with the contractor and confirm the scope of work to put in a work package to issue to them. the xs are getting closer to the actual repair. >> chair melgar: thank you. my last question, which is a big

one, is about temporary sidewalks and next two construction sites. in some neighborhoods where there's a lot of development happening, we see a lot of that. sometimes the scaffolding takes over what would be a bicycle lane or a parking lane. it creates all kinds of conflicts for people trying to get through. in this hearing i'm worried about people with disabilities. you can't really know. it's a bummer. my question to you who approve those? do you work with the mayor's office of disability? how is that circumventing what

is adequate? how does that happen? >> if it's a vertical development and it's impacting the public right-of-way, most permits do come through our division who responds to those complaints. we'll do a milestone inspection, pre-construction meetings and milestone inspections for the vertical developments. each property is required to provide an adequate path to travel. if they are going to occupy the entire sidewalk, then they would be required to provide a path of travel in the parking strip which could include ramping into an out of the parking strip around the construction site. places of scaffolding same thing, there's a director's order regarding the type of scam folding and of -- scaffolding and needs placement of boards at the end of it to highlight it.

in terms of mayor's office on disability when complaints are submitted directly to the mayor office of disability, first stop is with the disability access coordinators they will review it. i believe they open a formal complaint file on it and then they will refer that to my division and our inspectors for follow-up and action. then we will report back on our finding, action taken and in most cases resolution of the issues at hand. they will prepare a formal response to comply to the complainant. then they report out and provide a response as required by the higher federal. >> chair melgar: thank you. mr. lennon is there a time limit

for temporary path to stand? is there a time limit you can revisit whether it's still adequate or not? >> throughout the projects, regardless of the duration, they need to maintain that path of travel. if they get to a particular stage in construction where it makes sense for them to restore the sidewalk and they can provide safe access on the sidewalk as opposed to repainting the temporary path of travel we do encourage that. ultimately, it is the developer the contractors determination as to how they stage or organize the construction site. >> chair melgar: thank you. mr. lennon i understand that the sidewalk repair was put on

hold during the pandemic. is that back up running? >> it is back up and running. we currently have one contractor. we historically run with two contractors. throughout the pandemic, some of the contracts expired. at least one of our contractors decided to end the contract rather than wait. we are running again with one contractor that's moving. we are putting out new contracts, we're working on advertising new contracts that we hope to have up and running by the start of the new fiscal year. two new contracts starting end of june next year. >> chair melgar: thank you. colleagues do we have any questions? supervisor preston? >> supervisor preston: thank you for calling this hearing. i want to thank director short for their time and briefing our office on some of these issues

that i think are relevant to all of us and all districts around the city. i did have a question if mr. lennon. on the asap program and focusing where it's the responsibility of a private property owner. what is the breakdown roughly between things that come through? there's a complaint versus things that public works discovers through proactive inspections. do you have a sense of that? >> i don't have specific figures. i want to say that the majority of the things that are brought to our attention are via complaint. often times we do will send the sirp program to a certain area, it will help to address some of the outstanding issues in the

area. where we target and where we go is more vulnerable populations and schools and that sort of thing. >> supervisor preston: thank you. one of my concerns i would say in my district has been, there's some very long-term streets and really bad condition. i've been pretty appalled some of the conditions allowed to be in certain neighborhoods. that wouldn't be tolerated in other neighborhoods. i appreciate the response when our office has escalated. i appreciate when members of the community submit their complaints that public works attempts to get that in the queue and get out there. i am concerned with really some

of the infectties infect -- inequities that come from complaints especially when we look at communities like in my district, lot of folks just become almost resign to things aren't going to get fixed. it's been so long that you don't have unless a particular neighborhood that someone is escalated. you don't have a same level of complaints that in some other neighborhoods have folks more regularly making complaints about these things. it's a bit of cycle. i did want to make that observation and ask what efforts there are to improve the proactive inspection, particularly for underserved

communities? >> i know, as we have added more inspectors or trying to add more inspectors we add another contractor more work is able to be performed. historically and to date, with the resources that we have, we are constrained how much work and notices and processes with limited to two contractors how quickly they can perform the work. the more we could do to be proactive will be helpful. i think historically the way they were structured was largely as a reactive entity. in recent years with the covid since our conference is funded through a general fund, there was some concern regarding the budget that we had available.

i think we're trying to return to pre-covid funding and operations and we had ramped up to add a third sirp contractor before the pandemic. as we scaled that up, hopefully we will be able to expand our proactive approach. right now trying to get back up and two contracts knicks next fiscal year. as we go through the budget cycle and if there's a desire to expand we'll be able to support it if there's the will. >> supervisor preston: thank you. i would just encourage -- i understand some of the practical reality getting the contractors back online and getting out there. there's quite bit of backlog to address. just to recognize there's sort of more reactive approach by

nature tend to some communities better than others. as we all do, if i responded to neighborhoods in my district based on a number of complaints as opposed to the severity of the condition it would reinforce the various inequities that exist and i think part of approaching things with an inequity lens is not just responding to the communities that are acsu a-- -- when it comes time with resources to make sure that we are adequately investing in the inspectors and the programs that go out and look for the most severe conditions as opposed to waiting for the complaints and we're responding to those.

>> i would say that we do try to restate through the different districts and send contractors to different districts. your point is received and acknowledged. >> chair melgar: thank you supervisor preston. i agree with all your comments. thank you for bringing that up. i do want to make a plug -- [ indiscernible ] people who are from the neighborhood understand what the sidewalks look like in those neighborhoods. it will be great if we can break up some of the contracts that you're putting on the r.f.p. to make sure that local folks can do some of these jobs. thank you so much. with that, let go to

mr. crawford. >> hello thanks for having me. i will pivot to talk about the tree related sidewalk damage and there's really exciting development in the last several years with the passage of treat s.f. that was the city taking on responsibility of street tree related sidewalk damage. through that program, we have funded both internal craw that works for public works and private contractors in partnership with sirp and asap. lot of their work involves street tree related damage. we have contractor who's able to use technique called slicing. which is grinding. they are able to rapidly repair

smaller uplifts and report back to us about if it needs a full repair or if they're able to fix it all with that slicing. which is very economical. we've been able to respond to 40,000 tree related tripping hazards. mostly using that methodology. then our contractor and public works crew have repaired half million square feet of sidewalks. which is a huge amount of area. the issues even bigger. we still have a lot left to do. supervisor melgar, you asked about the process from this. it can be hard to know where do these things go, what happens to this request. what we want to do is have a

game plan and work through things strategically so we're doing it block by block. we also want to listen and respond to things that are worth doing out of order because of the severity of it. our first step when we receive it is to have an inspector check it out in person or if mike's team identifies something that's really bad. they kick it over to us and label it as high priority. that's something that we want to make sure we deal with without waiting for that systematic approach to get there. we're prioritizing potentially areas with lot of pedestrians.

for our systematic approach, what we ended up doing was a complete inventory of all the trees in san francisco which was really powerful tool to know how many trees we have the condition of the trees and also the sidewalk. they noted during their inventory process if there was sidewalk uplift and how severe it was. that was very powerful tool for us to know where to focus our efforts. over laying that with the high pedestrian corridors, we created these orange quadrants that are top priority. that's where we wanted to start with systematically and work with lighter colors, orange and

yellow. we hope to reach into those shades of green as the next layer. i will caution that as soon as we finish the repair, the roots keep growing it can get uplifted again. just because it's done doesn't mean that it's done forever. it's really ongoing task. i want to show you our progress. you can see those worst quadrants. have been completed. that's what we grayed out with that cross hatch. we are moving to the ones highlighted in blue. last two quadrants. which we are working in now. we'll continue on to the upcoming ones which are in yellow. i know this is a pretty small lied the message is there.

we started in the -- >> clerk: i wanted to note that you hit your five minute mark. >> that's it for our presentation. perfect timing. i'm available for any questions. >> chair melgar: thank you so much mr. crawford. i do have couple of questions for you. thank you for explaining the areas of prioritization. i am wondering if you will be open to adding criteria to that? for example areas in vicinity of senior centers like laguna honda or places where there's trees and people with disabilities like pomeroy center.

to me, it makes sense to also be proactive, places where we know there are vulnerable population populations. i understood said high pedestrian traffic and bus stops, what about the other uses? >> that's great question. just in the last week, i got a concern about raised sidewalk that was in the green area. we internally talked about how there was a community center located there where people were going there for meals. it was definitely a high traffic pedestrian site. as inspectors, we take that into

account wholeheartedly. it's the right thing to do. it's also a way to minimize trips and falls which is the right thing to do from a city risk benefit. we do take that into consideration. i think that one of the drawbacks to that map that i showed was -- it paints so much of the city as a green priority level. we do take it on case by case basis where we look at the site and if it's a severe uplift, but it's next to a curb next to a tree out of path of travel, we deprioritize that -- not that we don't want to fix it. if there's an uplift that's may be smaller uplift but it's in the path of travel and we got to

do that first just out of safety. it gets granular. it was good to have the surf all the sites. but then as we received concerns we've got to take each one seriously. >> chair melgar: thank you. one last question for you. we are considering the timeline for prop b tomorrow at our board meeting. your department is slated to go under the department of sanitation. i'm wondering in the proactive work that you doing, do you think that will be helpful in terms of addressing things from the get go? what are you thinking? do you think the way that you

are currently prioritizing the work will change? >> i think we'll tray to maintain the same level of service. we'll navigate any changes that come up. i think that even with our best efforts, when there's massive sea change, can interrupt things where we're looking for something. we always used to talk this person now they're somewhere else. it will be some that to adjust to. i'm not sure who is going to be where. for example if mapping comes over to streets and sanitation, there will be some alignment benefits there. but then they'll lose that connection with public works being under the same umbrella. there's pros and cons either

way. but ultimately, things that they send to us and ask us to fix we'll continue to take those to heart and process them as speededly as we can. >> chair melgar: thank you so much mr. crawford. colleagues do we have any questions for mr. crawford? that sounds good. thank you so much. we also have someone here from the m.t.a. >> hi. good afternoon madam chair and supervisors. i was informed that we wouldn't necessarily need to be presenting anything. we are here to respond to any questions that might come up with regards to any particular

construction. thank you for inviting us. >> chair melgar: thank you for being here. i will ask you the same yes that i asked mr. lennon about when there are construction sites and temporary sidewalks are built on the right-of-way, especially bike lanes. that's usually what happens. i'm wondering if your department is watching the process or it gets consulted how does that interaction happen to make sure that we are not purposing putting people on scooters on the temporary sidewalks because it's not safe? >> absolutely. thank you. for that question, i'm hoping that my colleague kate mccarthy is on the line and can speak to it. kate is managing the communications efforts with the public and ensures all the responses get addressed.

kate, are you available? >> i am here. i'm kate mccarthy sfmta department outreach engagement manager. i joined this meeting to give expertise how we respond to sidewalk complaints in regarding the van ness improvement project. regarding how we do programming for scooters. >> chair melgar: sorry that wasn't the question. it wasn't about programming for scooters. my specific question was right now, the community has told us that it's difficult sometime to figure out where to complain when something is not working. there are areas in the city where there's a lot of

development going on where there are temporary sidewalks built that are not as accessible as the regular sidewalk. some of the most often happen is that temporary plywood sidewalk are built on the bike lane. that's what's next to the actual sidewalk. the concern is that it's like inviting folks to then -- because there's no longer a bicycle lane to get on this temporary sidewalk and there's multiple things competing. somebody on a wheelchair, a pedestrian somebody on a scooter. my question was are we thinking about that? is the m.t.a. involved? i have not heard that right now effort from d.p.w. they are ones that approve these things. it doesn't make sense for you to have an involvement especially in areas we're seeing lot of

development. >> thank you for clarifying your question. when we received complaints via 311 or directly to muni customer service about issues related to an sfmta project we definitely send somebody out to address it right away. the example like i work on the van ness improvement project, we get complaints whole variety different ways. sometimes from 311 and sometimes from supervisor offices sometimes from the mayor's office. we field lot of complaints and. the public outreach team works with the construction management team to quickly address those issues. i will be honest that some of the challenges have been easier to fix than others. we definitely been tracking those -- we track those inquiries and we work to respond

to those within 48 hours. my area is public outreach. we field lot of the inquiries where the concerns are. i do know that the team, the construction team have inspectors that go out to make sure that there's 4 feet minimum sidewalk width. there's been problems with some of the materials used, temporary builds on the sidewalk. we've been working with the contractor to address the type of fills they are -- we do work proactively to make sure that the construction zones are accessible.

sometimes there's different handling of very similar complaints. i hope that provides a good overview. >> chair melgar: understood. sounds like it's complaint driven. vice chair preston's point sometimes complaints are usually for folks know the system. we're kind of setting up something. i wonder if we shouldn't proactively put the m.t.a. in some kind of role here in terms improving temporary sidewalks or have you have some signoff on

it. >> thank you chair melgar. i'm so delighted to point out that our colleague, can speak more about how we are engaged on that effort. >> good afternoon. the m.t.a. does have a regulatory role in terms of the right-of-way. there's a document that's on our website called the bluebook. it's construction manual that indicates the construction companies both private and public. the things they can do on the roadway. it prohibits closing streets and sidewalks without a permit. it regulates also the safe path of travel of pedestrians through the public right-of-way. obviously we work closely with public works when they do need to give a building permission to occupy the sidewalk.

that then encroaches on to the street. parking is removed often to allow for pedestrians to travel to a site. if bicycle facility is impacted, we look at those issues as well. we do have an approach where we balance safety and constructability. someconstructability sometimes you will have construction companies and utilities. they will try to do something quickly. they want to be able to have access to the roadway. it's a matter compromising the different needs and keeping safety a top priority. we try not to close sidewalks as much as possible to make sure pedestrians have path around the construction site. we require the contractors to mitigate with flag people, officers and clearly and detours. sometimes the construction site is somassive we can't have

pedestrians going around it. we have one or two inspectors on the site in san francisco that look at violations of safe path of travel. we do get 311 for blocked bike lanes and blocked sidewalks. we investigate those when we receive them as well. it is a partnership. it can be daunting because there's both private and public construction. there's different agencies that are involved in the public right-of-way. m.t.a. does have an important role the bluebook is an important document for people to be aware and it exist and it has to be followed.

>> chair melgar: excellent. thank you so much for all that information. that's great. it's the bluebook available available online for folks to refer to? >> yes it's on our m.t.a. website and easily found by typing in the keywords. it's on the construction regulation page website. it's a document that's widely cited and available for the industry. if we encounter someone not familiar with the documents we'll gladly give them a copy. there's training as well. we have an officer that does training for the industry. we do have a proactive approach when we're out there and we see problems we will talk to construction folks to let them know the importance of keeping a safe path, a clean path, clear path through construction sites. >> chair melgar: thank you. that's really helpful. this may be well-known in the industry. i don't think it's well-known among the disability and

advocates and seniors. this is really great to know and to have as a reference. thank you so much. that was great. the last person i'm going obring up before we go to public comment, if there's no questions, is ms. deborah kaplan from the mayor's office of disability. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for calling this hearing and asking us to be here. before i directly answer your question, let me just emphasize that the issue is definitely an

aspect of a.d.a. implementation. also implementation of california civil rights statute. there have been several lawsuits successfully filed against cities and local jurisdictions under the a.d.a. regarding access to sidewalks and right-of-way for people with disabilities. it's not only the right thing to do and appropriate way to treat all of our residents but an area of legal liability for the city when we have significant problems. then i guess, --

[ indiscernible ] certainly when we get complaints directly from beam disabilities or seniors through experience problems with right-of-way, we've done our own work to try to simplify what the steps are in the process so that people with disabilities understand sort of what the work flow is once a complaint is filed. looking at this different between complaints that go in to 311 or other means that go into the system as opposed to those that come to m.o.d. the major difference is that m.o.d.'s process for dealing with all complaints is highly

transparent.

our resources are not -- [ indiscernible ] in terms of getting involved. we do collaborate with the a.d.a. coordinators and have a strong relationship with the a.d.a. we do have couple of concerns. we met with folks in the city, the d.p.w. and the administrator's office to talk about the needs for an a.d.a. coordinator in the new agency. we have some concerns that as

the new agency begins to take jurisdiction and starts to handle complaints, we're concerned that there will be a transition period where it's not clear who handles which one. we're worried that will slow down the process of getting to resolutions. it's clear who's responsible for what. the other issue that hasn't been brought up here, we were happy to see somebody from bureau of urban forestry here. the direction that san francisco

is taking under the new climate action plan update. however, it's very important for there to be oversight about how much sidewalk clearance is left after a tree has been planted. >> clerk: the speaker has hit their five minute mark. >> there's been enough clearance especially when some of volunteer organizations that are also involved in planting trees become involved.

>> chair melgar: thank you very much. that was really great. colleagues do we have any question for ms. kaplan? >> supervisor preston: i want to thank you ms. kaplan for your presentation. i want to underscore an issue you raised. around liability and i see you were talking about this from the perspective of potential a.d.a., liability which is significant issue. i want to note the liability sort of unspoken thing. not only is a good policy to fix these sidewalks conditions but as the chair of g.a.o., we are the committee that reviews the lawsuit when someone is injured or is filing a disability discrimination case. regardless when it's settled the case comes before our committee.

just for the public know, we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars every year because of conditions that could have been avoided. this is just an area, there's a struggle on the resources. this is probably one of the clearest examples of where in that plan, significantly at the front end and not sparing any expense to make sure we are ahead of necessary repairs. is not only right thing to do to prevents people from losing access to their sidewalks it prevents people from being physically injured. but it also -- there's no question about it, it is more cost effective for the city to invest the resources into fixing sidewalks as quickly as possible on a urgent basis. i want to thank you for elevating that potential

liability issues in your presentation. as a final comment there's been some comments around the issues. i appreciate there's some issues involved with restructuring. i do want to say i'm pretty confident that however that moves forward that all at the folks who spoken will be able to continue providing these basic services. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. thank you ms. kaplan for that presentation. you brought up several new issues. i appreciate your input and everything that you bring to this conversation. supervisor peskin?

>> supervisor peskin: no there's actually -- we actually addressed some of this in separate hearings that we had in supervisor mar's committee not long ago. i am familiar -- actually, it was supervisor preston's committee. at any rate, we had hearing on that recently. >> chair melgar: thank you. with that, anything else to add ms. kaplan? >> no thank you very much. >> chair melgar: with that, let's go public comment on this item please. >> clerk: thank you. we have kaleena supporting us today. if you have not done so and like to speak to item number 1 please press star 3.

we have seven listeners today with four in the queue for item number 1. please unmute first caller please? >> caller: i want to thank you for having this hearing all of you. these are things that so much neglected.

normally i would have the good sense not to cross there. i would cross larkin street and head down to cross california or cross on other side of that intersection. i can't. somebody tore up the street. it's been months. they put down this temporary stops, black asphalt i guess it is. when you have disability like i do or any kind of balance problem, that's kind of dangerous. it's been months. when i cross there i'm slowed down very much. i can't possibly make the light. people are going to come and hit me in the dark. they will not see me. if i should fall, i won't be able to get up. i will lie there until somebody picks me up.

this has been months. then to make matters worse on california street they put out this barrier across the sidewalk which goes out when they open up at night. it's probably never seen by authorities during the day. you can't get past there. it's like a foot wide and 3 inches high. >> clerk: i apologize for cutting off. we are at two minutes per speaker. next caller please. >> caller: hello i'm a senior living in north beach. walking is my major form of exercise and transportation. i'm out on the sidewalks every day. to put it simply, they are a disaster not waiting to happen.

the painted and damaged sidewalks have stayed there with the paint fading for years. d.p.w. presentation really didn't give me any more confidence that the city is dealing with these issues. i'm two blocks of grant avenue. i counted 24 tripping hazards at least half of them serious. i know that supervisor peskin know what is i'm talking about. sometimes i walk in the street because the sidewalk is so dangerous and frankly that's saying a lot. i have tripped and fallen twice because of sidewalk hazards. i did go to kaiser to get patched up. luckily i i was not seriously

injured. i had two friends who were seriously injured. one requiring $8000 dental replacement work and the other receiving $250,000 settlement from the city for her injuries. in closing, i want to remind you, according to the national council on aging falls are the leading cause of fatal and non-fatal for people age 65 and older. isn't it way past time to get san francisco sidewalks where people especially seniors and people with disabilities can walk on easily? thank you very much. >> clerk: next speaker. >> caller: good afternoon chair melgar supervisor preston and supervisor peskin. this is carol brown. i live in district two. i'm 80 years old and i have

disability to get around. i prefer slow streets to sidewalks because they are flatter and less treacherous to roll on. that's quite different from the sidewalks which are more like navigating and auto cross course. for places like i go often i mapped out in my mind which side of the street to use and which streets to avoid entirely. this week it was hoses across the sidewalk with inadequate means to get over them. when there are cars park the on the sidewalk to maneuver around. lately, i senile seen improvements in the sidewalks.

the new crossings on geary is excellent. as soon as i get on the sidewalk heading downhill in the direction of city hall, it all changes. the sidewalks are quite narrow. there are mainly unevenly pushed up sections. i'm pleased you're working to improve the sidewalks. >> clerk: next speaker please. if you like to speak you need

to press star 3. >> caller: hi, i'm linda walsh. i'm a resident of district 5. over the years i've fallen and been injured because of ineven sidewalks and uplifts. occasionally i trip the on sidewalks sometime on a way to a meeting, i fallen down completely. especially it's a problem when it's not noticeable when the uneven pavement is not too high. this is resulted in medical costs and limitation on activities for months and lost work time.

i now just spent time looking down at the sidewalk more realizing, it's just a big concern to watching out for the sidewalks. i'm concerned that some uplifts and uneven sidewalks are left unrepaired. one case in point on the hill up to st. mary's cathedral there's a big uplift about 2 to 3 inches high. couple of years ago i saw an older woman walking with some companions. she fell right on her face tripping on the uplift. it was night time. she didn't see it, obviously. she required an ambulance. i didn't know her i don't know what happened. despite our calls to 311 that uplift is still there few years later.

i think it's really important to have a process that really addresses these problems on the sidewalks. thank you supervisors for holding this meeting. >> clerk: we have one more caller. >> caller: good afternoon. my name is nikki. i want to thank jennifer and the community living campaign for bringing this very important topic to the seniors that i work with and thank you to the supervisors, especially supervisor melgar. my constituents lives in your district. i have about 30 or 40 seniors that i talk to regularly. we had an exercise class just recently convened. before that, the seniors were

walking in their neighborhoods. they would tell me when they heard about the campaign they had experienced falls, some of them serious falls because of uneven and broken sidewalks. ironically the playground in that neighborhood, the walkway from the playground to the reservoir actually has some severe cracks and uprising of cement on that walkway. we have reported those. i really appreciate what you are doing. i have fallen myself two times in my own neighborhood in the residential area. it hurts. luckily my falls are not serious. i did experience about two weeks of pain. i really hope that u continue to work on this and improve

whatever department working with you. i had a really nice meeting with the youth group that gets apprenticeships with our union. we only need to look to the tragic news that hit the world yesterday of the death of vicente fernandez who died. >> clerk: we have two more callers that popped up in the queue. next caller please. >> caller: good afternoon supervisor melgar, preston and peskin. my name is -- [ indiscernible ] i'm confined in a wheelchair.

i'm requesting the land use committee to look into making sidewalks safe. in closing i like to thank you for holding this important meeting today. >> clerk: thank you for your testimony. next speaker please. we have one last caller in the

queue. >> caller: hello. my name is betty trainer. i work with seniors through both the senior disability action. i thank you very much for having this hearing today. it's so important. i personally had a fall a few years ago and required using a cane for a while. it was a good lesson for me. i to look at the sidewalk carefully. one thing that was very scary is sometimes those little square metal plates are missing. if someone with a cane, especially if the person is blind and we had many people who are blind use canes. if that cane went in that hole, it would be a tremendous fall.

that other people mentioned many other problems. i wanted to make that one in particular bring it to your attention. that needs to be repaired when we call 311 that needs to be repaired almost within a day. it's so scary. i want to thank you very much for having this hearing and listening to us. thank you. >> clerk: thank you so much. madam chair, that was the last caller in the queue. >> chair melgar: thank you very much. thank you colleagues for considering this set of issue. i would like to continue this to the call of the chair. there's couple of outstanding issues that i think that we should come back and explore further. one is something that we heard from public comment about the inspectors going out and marking the sidewalks and then nothing

happens within a year sometimes which is not what is in the timeline that the department. i'm wondering is there is an equity issue as supervisor preston pointed out. having a complaint based system, puts the on the onerous on communities that don't complain. other thing like you supervisor preston have no doubt that we can reorganize the department to be better more efficient and more responsive. as we're doing that, i want to make sure that we revisit this issue so that we can make sure that those who are most affected don't suffer the consequences of our inaction and prioritization. if i could please move to continue this to the call of the

chair. i'd appreciate it. thank you so much for your active participation in this. sorry, public comment is closed. >> clerk: on the motion to continue the item through the call of the chair made by supervisor melgar. [roll call vote] you have three ayes. >> chair melgar: thank you. thank you to everybody who came out to speak on public comment and disability rights community for highlighting this issue. for the sidewalk quack me up campaign. thank you so much. please call item number 2. >> clerk: a resolution adding the commemorative street name with ruth asawa plaza to the

1700 block of buchanan street. if you want to call to place a public comment call (415)655-0001, meeting i.d. is 2492 843 1104 press point and pound 3. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. vice chair preston, thank you so much for bringing this item to the committee. >> supervisor preston: we have been in touch with ruth asawa's family. we understand they like to get more clarity how this renaming fits in with the broader plans for improvements on the spot before we move forward. in light of that, i would like to make a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair after we received public

comment. thank you. >> chair melgar: thank you so much for working with us. madam clerk let's go to public comment. >> clerk: if you have in the done so already please star 3 to be added in the queue. we have two callers and zero callers in the queue. >> chair melgar: with that, public comment is closed. let's take roll on vase chair -- vice chair preston's motion. [roll call vote]. >> clerk: you have three ayes. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. in motion passes. madam clerk please call 3 and 4

together. >> clerk: there's only an item 3. item number 3 is a hearing on the city's need to address workforce housing across the full range incomes as identified in jobs housing fit reports. members of the public who wish to provide public comment, that number is (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. is 2492 843 1104 if you have not done so, press star 3 to be added to the speaker line. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. we are now joined by supervisor gordon mar. thank you supervisor mar for

being hear. >> supervisor mar: thank you so much for this opportunity for this follow-up hearing. last month we heard directly from the community and received a presentation how workers getting to job housing fit. this collaboration is the kind of work necessary to ensure that san francisco is a place where low and middle income workers are able to live, work and drive.

i commissioned a budget report on the job housing fit in our city. we passed an ordinance calling for an annual jobs housing fit report by the planning department so we were able to continue to review workforce housing needs when it comes to city planning and development decisions. today, we are following up with a presentation by the planning department on this first jobs housing fit report. i want to say that everything we know about the affordable housing crises points to solutions we already know that work increase public investment. good regulation against speculative market forces and equitable land use policies. with the extreme housing imbalance and lack of jobs-housing fit we need it get

creative with our solutions to not only build the housing for the workforce and protect working families already here. we have some proposals that many of us put forward along these lines. last month i introduced the housing development incentive program for homeowners to support expansion of middle income family housing across the city. this program will stabilize low and moderate income homeowners. it provides technical assistance to expand single family homes. supervisor melgar, your innovation fund and focus on co-op housing supervisor preston having stability fund, appropriated all of this creation and make an impact. they are all predicated on the

principle that we need to protect working families as we build for working families. it's in interest of the general welfare to promote stable communities and ensure you have production meet the needs of our workforce and community. we must shape and direct the housing industry to focus on meeting our actual unmet need. also work towards securing the land funding programs to achieve these ends for our communities. that begins with our position and policies in how we plan. i'm looking forward to this conversation with our planning department and with all of you today. i want to thank director hillis, josh and michelle littlefield for completing the first jobs-housing fit report.

>> i'm going to share my screen. >> clerk: if you select windows from the dropdown menu, you can pick only your pdf or your powerpoint. >> good afternoon. i'm with the planning staff.

we're here today to present on the recently jobs-housing fit report. i'm joined today by michelle littlefield, the manager of our department data and analysis group as well as other staff from planning and the mayor's office of community development. jobs-housing developmentries a rigorous analysis on past and future job growth and housing production in san francisco. comparing the net change in housing demand by worker households by incomes with new housing produced and projected to be produced by affordability level. we published the first report on november 1st. we're happy to distribute that. that report uses data through

calendar year 2019. this first report was not minor endeavor. we did try to take first steps to create a methodology early in 2020. we're happy to get it done once they returned. the admin code requires a 10-year retrospective analysis. it requires focus on the title development pipeline.

the -- it involves three key steps that allow us to represent what happened in regards to jobs and household information. all of this uses federal government data sources. first we get development from the bureau of labor statistics. then we need to convert workers into actual households. it's households that consume housing and affordability. the way we do this is by matching working information from the b.l.s. data with information on actual households provided by the census. we can match up the actual worker house holies and --

households and profiles. steinle step is compare -- here are the results of the rhett -- the overall housing production over that period fell well short of meeting the overall needs and needs across all income levels, less than 20% of the need was met with unmet housing need for that period of 124,000 housing

units of which 54,000 affordable units were not proud and 71,000 above moderate housing units were not provided. one thing i did want to underscore on this slide is the important point that i mentioned that wage shelve not the -- level is not the same as household income. just point out that only 19% of workers were in the lower wage category only about 12% were in the lowest a.m.i. category. many households have multiple earners. some households including those in high wage levels want to have multiple dependents. there are folks that end up with the actual income spectrum that makes wages across the income spectrum. the methodology has been

straight forward. since the board of supervisors and have adopted a jobless fee methodology to convert development by land use type into housing demand by income level. this is fairly straightforward calculations. here are the results of the future looking assessment. just judging by the pipeline alone, the future years will perform substantially better than the last decade. showing actual projected surplus of housing across all income categories except the moderate risk category 80% to 100% a.m.i.

category. it requires the support to include isolated assessments of recent area planing, ingong plans as well as major development projects over a certain scale that have had a development agreement. this 2020 report looked at two area plans and seven major projects. because this was the first report and there was a delay in producing it. we reached back and caught up with what happened during 20. it includes all of these projects and plans.

here's the cumulative look. there's a deficit cumulative deficit projected if you add up all those plans and projects together. the largest deficit being above moderate and moderate categories with substantially lesser deficits with very low and low categories. although the plans and projects generally tend to skew either very heavily residential or more primarily commercial just because of the nature of smaller projects and area plans. three of the seven major projects were primarily housing with relatively right amount of jobs being generated and one of the projects was entirely entirely commercial. this is the result.

i think probably the biggest takeaway from the report is the cumulative analysis, adding future to the path to see how we are cumulatively. there's a deficit of approximately 106,000 housing units overall of which about 56,000 are projected to be deficit on the affordable side of the ledger and about african -- 49,000 on the other side of the ledger.

one -- last thing of this report is for planning to collaborate with mohcd to report on sites needed to identify the housing deficit in the report. affordable housing deficit is upwards 56,000 to 58,000 units. using an average unit, per unit gap subsidy that mohcd advised on $350,000 per unit. that will be local funding over

$20 billion. acquisition of over 775 sites at an average unit site size. >> clerk: i want to note, presenter time is at 10 minutes. >> i will wrap it up and hand it over to michelle littlefield. should the full unit be met that will reduce the total need by about a quarter.

we all living through this pandemic. not sure how long it will take for trends to sort themselves out in the data. that will be our first look at post-pandemic set of numbers. one thing the planning department is recommending moving the issue to every years based on the method involved. we think this would match and provide decision makers where the long-term trends are headed. we'll come back to this if the committee would like. supervisor mar inquiry did ask us to compare methodology in the

report. the b.l.a. report was telling a narrative about the issue of jobless housing fit. it did not do rigorous quantitative analysis that the admin code requires of us to do for this report. there was a number of ways where that report did not meet the standards that would immediate admin code requirement. with that i will hand it over to michelle littlefield to talk about the other housing reporting obligations. >> thank you josh. thank you supervisors. i can share my screen. i added a clarifying slide to give a more broad overview. i'm going to go ahead and share my screen. can everyone see this?

thank you so much. i wanted to take a few minutes to provide overview where we are with all of our other reporting requirements within the planning department. i'm michelle littlefield i'm the data and analytics manager for our data team. what i like to go over is that since the height of the pandemic there has been a growing need for new data. new data infrastructure related not only to our mandated reports but also related to our growing need for data around racial and social equity, covid-19 covid-19 recovery strategy and budget constraints as we're heading in budget season. that in mind, planning is undergoing substantial data quality and system improvements to improve overall accuracy and responses to data requests. i wanted to make a note that since most of the planning department's reports in part

depend on data that is managed by oater agencies, it is critical that the city move towards a more integrated permanent system that allows staff to track projects more effectively. so that we can produce these reports and be responsive to the other demands resulting from the covid-19 pandemic and data needs relating to recovery strategies. what we see are a number of strategies that we're putting in place now so we can prime ourselves over the next year and beyond to set ourselves up for better success in developing the housing report and particularly the quarterly pipeline report which we will be resuming in january. among those, i wanted to highlight here that across the department, there are

approximately 700 key performance measures across all our mandated reports and performance measures that are going through the department. approximately 98% of those reports depend on other agencies. we are working with our agency partners to see what we can do to build up our systems in the interim. in addition to that, this also requires substantial data quality cleanup efforts on the part of the planning department. we are making sure that we are prioritizing our major projects and housing projects to ensure all our status and decision dates are accurate within our own systems. we are focused on building out new work flows within our permit system including development of a road map that allows us to track projects at a more granular level. so things like can we create new

fields that collect data at all a.m.i. levels through the planning and building permit process as building permits are routed to planning for plan review. finally, building out data visualizations that can help to give some simplifications to the understanding of where we are in the development process and also being able to track policies, housing policies, for example

more effectively through the use of dashboards and opportunities to pull in additional helpful data in the city's property information that is available on sfplaning.org. i want to focus on a timeline when we expect to see a lot of these systems and data quality improvements being launched. over this last year, we have been focused on identifying what those key challenges are in our systems. our target is to publish the quarterly pipeline in january. following substantial cleanup with our planning entitlements.

at the same time in q1, we expect to do additional outreach. all this is to prime us for a better work flow so we can do our housing reports particularly the housing inventory, so we can set those up more effectively and publish those in april of 2022. once we've done all of this work and set up our systems in a way that can allow us to do this more effectively we will shift our focus to other mandated reports that are required by code and do the same thing. in addition, wild we have -- we are also developing dashboards for pipeline and also housing. we would love to get feedback

from individual members of this committee as well as other members of the planning commission and board of supervisors so we can understand better what key performance metrics are most important to you all so we can incorporate those in the dashboard. the long-term goal, this is predicated having more integrated permit system is the ability to have more realtime dashboards that are tied so we can see where projects are in realtime across the development process within san francisco. there were two additional reports that he had questions about regarding the status of these reports. first one the quarterly housing production report, the last of

which was published in 2018 in the second quarter of that year. that report has not been produced since that time. then secondly, there was a question related to the housing production summary attachments that are required and need to be attached to all projects that move forward to planning commission. that particular summary attachment has not been produced by the department. however, the data contained -- as a requirement for that specific summary attachment report is included in various other publications including the annual housing inventory and reena submittals.

that is what we have to look forward to. with that, i will conclude my presentation and answer any questions. >> that concludes the presentation by staff. back to you. >> supervisor mar: thank you so much for that josh and michelle. and for all your work on the job job-housing report. i want to say that, we also have fernando ortiz here as available to participate in the discussion. it's if it's okay with you i like to invite fernando to share

an assessment of the report. >> chair melgar: welcome. i have several questions. i will wait until after his presentation. welcome. >> thank you chair melgar. thank you supervisors. i think i'll make this pretty quick. thank you planning department staff. this was really quite informative. i think as joshua said, one of the things that really stood out in this report is the need at the moderate income levels.

that is something that we've seen throughout the rhna reporting and here as well where we see -- looking at my data here in a need that was identified and report about 19% of the units that were produced should have been serving moderate income house households. only 5% were meeting the need of moderate income households. one of the things that's astounding is the monetary value and kind of investment that the city needs to be putting into actually needing affordable housing forlow -- for low to moderate income workers. the report identified that the

city should be building about 6000 affordable units per year to meet the need by growth in jobs. when in fact, we're building about 765 a year. that kind of translates into some really big decisions that the board and mayor and city needs to make. in doing this report, planning staff had to translate the growth in jobs to the growth in households. it points to a discussion under family housing that i'm not sure if the board has had in a number of years. i know back in the day president yee made that a central part of the discussions planning department actually

created a report specifically around the need for family housing. [please stand by]

>> chair melgar: what we're not capturing in this report is that sort of displacement element, so preservation of existing workers in the unit is something that's not captured, and what we're keeping -- and i realize it's a completely different set of data generation than what you're showing here, but i think it would be great to see that homes that we're adding would be at the opposite end of the

spectrum. i am wondering how we capture that because it's not just you know who gets to have the -- you know the assets that we get to have currently because of the housing stock but also because folks are still working, who gets to be in a commute for two hours before they get to get home for dinner? i think that in addition to what we need to produce we also need to keep an eye on who it is that it's sort of jobs policy and development policy we are displacing, but that was my question and how do we get to that? >> thank you supervisor melgar. that's a great set of

questions. in part workst work not specifically related to this work but to a different report, prepandemic maybe a year or so before the pandemic looking at where people lived by income in san francisco looking at some of those trends, and it definitely showed that increasing a larger share of the higher income households were living in san francisco, and a higher percentage of folks at the lower end of the spectrum -- more were commuting in than before and so that was definitely happening. clearly, what this data in this report show is huge deficits

across the board. for folks that can afford to make choices, they're pushing out others and driving up prices and have more choices, and so you know the fact that we're not delivering the housing across the spectrum has implications for everybody and where everybody ends up and so i think if we wanted to start embellishing this report with residential locations, we could try to start identify some of those metrics and add them in because particularly, the census data is a very rich source of data. i mean we know it's a very detailed sample and all the households -- all the people that live in san francisco where they live across the entire state, well really, across the entire country,

three theoretically. one thing to note is that it presumes all of the workers, 100% would live in san francisco, and given a choice we all to be planning for 100% of all the workers, and we know that not everyone certainly don't choose to live in san francisco, but they're all part of the picture. the reality is that about 40 to 50% of the workforce is commuted into the city as a result of profile of housing growth in the city and the lack

of keeping up with that. >> chair melgar: thank you. and the last comment you made about not everyone wants to live in the city i would say, by the same token, not everybody wants to live in one place in the city where most of the growth has occurred which is in the downtown and financial district. i know that you, in your presentation said something about if we build all of the market rate housing, we would make a dent of 25% in the affordable housing because that's the inclusionary requirement. i know when i was at the planning commission that we were hearing from african american communities in particular because the historical exclusion of back folk in our community from home

ownership. they yearn to do asset building which the program specifically you know caps. i also know that a lot of families want to be closer to, you know where they're a part and public schools and grandparents and all of these things so it's not necessarily just where we're building, where families want to live. so it would be really interesting in your data set to have that geographical analysis of where we're building and where folks want to go and also have that lens as to, you know people's desires of what they yearn for and, you know where they want to live in our city, so thank you so much. back to you supervisor mar.

>> supervisor mar: thank you, chair melgar. yeah i just had a few questions about the methodology, since this is the first job report, and they're also sort of definitely connected to the policy decisions connected to housing here in the city so i think it's about the housing need and some of it chair melgar touched on and josh, in your response [indiscernible] and how it's impacting the lower income and moderate income

households, and i would just add that i checked the on-line listings there, and on craig listcraig -- craigslist, there are over 3,000 listings and there are over 1000 homes for sale in san francisco. there's housing that's available as renters and even homeowners, and it seems like this is not being captured in the methodology or such a high unmet housing need, but i think more importantly, it's how these households in meeting their housing needs

[indiscernible] and is it possible for the methodology to capture that better? >> yes, supervisor. yes, i would reiterate part of my answer to supervisor melgar's question is we could look at the geographic distribution what segments that are growing in san francisco versus other parts of the region. we don't know if they're living in existing units or whatever, but yeah, i think your point is exactly right, that you know, have a high likelihood of finding their needs met, but it comes with a sacrifice of rising prices and people who

were inhabiting those existing units potentially being priced out, and so the lack of supply across the spectrum has implications for everybody whether you're in that housing bracket or not because the housing market is fairly integrated and their choices do affect on people. so i think we can, yeah as we refine this report we can talk about some of these more specific metrics that we might be able to look at in terms of some of these other dynamics. >> supervisor mar: yeah, thank you. and again, i guess my feeling is if it can show how the -- how the above moderate income households who are having their housing needs being met through the existing housing stock increases the needs of the low-income and moderate income households but that's my

question, and i would like to see that if that's the case, incorporated into the methodology. and then, regarding the metology methodology on the job site and the future [indiscernible] or unmet housing need is your methodology -- it seems like it's exclusively based on the development pipeline and versus some commercial and residential development and i think that that makes sense you know from -- you know from a -- yeah, i can understand how that makes sense from your perspective, but it seems like it doesn't capture the nuances of -- yeah and even some new complexities of the, you know jobs in our city and as it relates to housing. like the extended and even permanent work from home

policies of a lot of employers, you know how that's going to impact the housing demands and the housing needs of the higher income households how they're going to take advantage of that and how they're not going to begoing to be able to live in san francisco. and as fernando mentioned, the gig workers and how that continues to grow, the gig workforce. unfortunately, from a labor perspective, i think i saw from one estimate, there were approximately 41,000 [indiscernible] drivers and then an increase in food delivery drivers, as well, and that's not captured in the housing needs that are clearly unmet, and that's not captured in your methodology. >> yeah supervisor. i would actually agree with you that maybe the pipeline is not

the best methodology, but it was the one described to us by the administrative code. we did try to actually round that out because as you pointed out, not everybody works even in a building, i mean tachedattached to a particular location. we have gig workers or transportation or other fields and you can think of many gardeners, all sorts of people home health care workers who don't necessarily -- and whose growth in those jobs might not be reflected in the development pipeline. so we did supplement the

pipeline information by looking at the broader long range job perspectives at the city and those theoretically would capture jobs that would be growing in the future not necessarily just in new buildings, because yes, the bulk of new jobs in new buildings are in the new buildings that are built, which are primarily office buildings, laboratory buildings, and smaller amounts of retail and those sorts of uses. so definitely, i think it would be a richer look at the future to not focus it based on the pipeline, and that's certainly a conversation that we'd like to have to free up the pipeline to respond more fluidly to these questions.

>> supervisor mar: yeah thank you. yeah. chair melgar, i think i'll kind of leave it at that for my questions for now. >> chair melgar: okay. thank you so much supervisor mar. supervisor preston or supervisor peskin, do you have any questions? >> supervisor preston: i do chair melgar. supervisor mar, thank you so much for your presentation on this and your health care workers report. i will admit to a little bit of frustration at the lastck of media interest in your work and that planning is working on this report. it is a very strange upside down media landscape when a quick google search reveals 19

separate articles on a housing project on stevenson street while zero addresses the issues that we are addressing today. but that said i do have a couple of questions about the report that was presented, and through the chair, thank you for your work on this. i was curious why all the various income levels, 120 and up are put in that one category -- well let's just start on that.

i'm curious why it's reported in that way. >> it was: admin code asked us to report by the four rhna categories and that's what we did, and everything is categorized in four rhna categories. everyone that makes up to median income is lumped in that category. >> supervisor preston: and thank you for clarifying that. that's based on the rhna and how the code directs it but it leaves me wondering when we look at -- some of the findings around like total production of the last decade and we have 53,000 affordable, right and 70,000 above moderate. do you have the breakdown of

what 70,000 -- what a.m.i. levels those 70,000 units are? i can't tell from this data if that's overwhelmingly people who are at 200% a.m.i., and the folks at 125% aren't getting anything or if there's a more equal distribution there? is there any breakdown of the data further? >> i don't have that information at my fingertips but we do have that to calculate it if that was desired for future reports because the census does provide us the actual amounts of a.m.i. incomes. >> supervisor preston: yeah. that would be helpful. i don't think there would be anything that would preclude the additional breakdowns of

higher income levels. and i think one of the key questions is the market rate units that are produced that are in the pipeline who are those targeting, and it just -- using just the above -- above moderate i believe there's probably a tier of folks who are above moderate but who are not going to be able to compete with and acquire those units. and maybe i should ask that rather than assume that. do you have information on the market rate units here? are any of those units going to be affordable say under 1:28 a.m.i.? >> i would actually defer to

michelle, who works on our rhna reporting and knows the granularity of the data on our rents and sales prices and stuff. >> supervisor preston, we can definitely look into that and report on the breakdown. correct me if i am wrong, but you want the market rate units, like what are the specific a.m.i. units for the units themselves and who could potentially afford them at the income levels? >> supervisor preston: yeah. i think it was who could afford the units at the last -- or the quote above moderate ones the 70,000 to break those down to

what are the a.m.i.s by that production and the same looking forward. and the second related, but it was a little different was whether any of the market rate units, looking backwards or looking forwards, are affordable to anyone under 20% a.m.i. or under? i mean even just categorically across the board. i'm curious if literally any units of market rate housing in san francisco is affordable at 1:20 a.m.i.? >> yeah i -- we can get back with you to the answer. we do do a sale of rents and new units in order to responsibility to rhna, but we can double-check and get back to you with more of those time frame questions.

>> supervisor preston: okay. thank you. and then looking forward like the 2020 to 2040, what assumptions is planning making if any, around who can afford the -- i'm sorry -- the market rate units? >> the assumption in this analysis is any market rate units would only be affordable by the above 120, above moderate category. that's the premise of this analysis is if it's not literally a deeded, deed restricted below market rate unit targeted to a certain group, it would be the above 120.

>> supervisor preston: and then the local funding 2020 to 2040 on the unmet need of affordable housing, what's our plan there to deliver on that unmet need. >> is that a question for the planning department or for your colleagues? >> supervisor preston: it is, yeah. >> well, i guess, is there any plan that planning is aware of or put forwardtor forward for unmet affordable housing. >> [indiscernible] my colleague may still be on this call. she may be able to speak to how the housing element is considering the investment

needs. as well i should also have eli from the mayor's office of housing is also on board and can also answer your questions on affordable housing. >> supervisor preston: thank you. >> sure. i'll just add that, you know, i feel now for probably for the first time as of two years ago, the city starting including a housing chapter in the capital planning process we would could identify a totality of the capital funding gap and that would help identify, you know the decision makers and the city in general to identify sources of funding whether it's a bond or additional sources of funding to help with this funding gap, and the housing government is also trying to emphasize the need to

kind of reverse this [indiscernible] and identify different funding sources and the processes by which we can continue to monitor how we can establish new funding sources or you know what are our priorities in addressing and inching forward towards meeting that huge funding gap. >> supervisor preston: thank you. and i don't know if anyone else wanted to address that as well? >> she has stepped away for a

moment. sorry. >> supervisor preston: i believe that's all i have for now. thank you chair melgar. >> chair melgar: thank you, supervisor preston. well we should go to public comment on this item if there's no more speakers. madam clerk, can we go to public comment? >> clerk: madam chair d.t. is checking to see how many callers we have in the queue. for those already on hold wait until you hear a system prompt that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. we have ten listeners and six in queue. kalina, if you could unmute the first caller, please. >> hi. this is [indiscernible] and i'm the executive director of jobs for justice in san francisco. we have been looking forward to this report. i appreciate the supervisors and their offices for making this happen.

i just wanted to in thinking about this report it's so essential. i think there's a lot of misinformation about oh, there's not enough housing when the question is there's not enough question for low wage workers and very low wage workers. a little while ago, we were looking for workers for the today show about commuters. we just asked a couple of our member organizations, and right away security guards and health care workers workers that were commuting 2.5 hours. their day was starting at 3:00 a.m. and not getting home until after their kids' bedtime. when we did the housing report,

we found this were educators looping sleeps sleeping in their cars health care workers taking care of our elders also having a retail job, working an 18-hour day, and that's the real problem of having a jobs-housing fit, so thank you so much for perusing this report and i look forward to more. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> hi. my name is connie chung, and i also work with jobs for justice and the san francisco labor council. on the housing and workers report i would urge the planning department to look at hour report as something that emphasizes the whole idea of

the essential worker element to this planning process. i mean who's going to do the services that keep our city running? where are the nurses going to live? where are the teachers going to live? where are the in-home health care workers going to live? if the report it does show that 7% of the essential workers in our city. unionized workers live here, so i think it needs to be attention. i think i should have started out by saying thank you for all the hard work that you're doing, and this conversation is going in a really positive direction. i think there hasn't been enough housing created for

workers in our city. i want to make sure that it's known that as we go about filling that gap forred moderate to high income workers, that we're not pitting worker against worker we should have overall added solution that every worker who works in this city deserves a right to -- i want to emphasize -- [indiscernible] it's going to be opening up other examples of affordable housing -- >> clerk: we have four callers

with seven listeners. >> this is sue hester. when you're tracking on jobs that are approved or not built there is a project that i've been tracking at market and van ness for 40-story luxury condos and they gave the deal for building b.m.r.s at the same time and that project is approved in 2017. that's a park [indiscernible] for buildings -- building the needed housing.

so 40-story luxury condos get approved and they're not built and the b.m.r.s that are supposed to be built are not built, either. there was a press release from september 2017 that they were going to fund the affordable units quickly, and they haven't been funded, so what is going on in terms of projects? does the planning department get a list of projects that are approved and not built, especially when they have a mix of luxury and b.m.r. units -- or pardon me off-site b.m.r. units, not on-site. so thank you. bye. >> clerk: thank you, miss hester. we have ten listeners with seven in the queue.

next speaker. >> linda chapman. it's a member of -- as a member of s.d.a.s housing collaborative, i listened to the driving out of black people from san francisco and the loss of the black population. it's just the same for my family. i'm a third generation san franciscan. the fourth generation grew up here but they had to leave when they wanted to stay here and they can only come back if one of us die. back in the 1970s, the drum was beat about the manhattanization of san francisco and i thought well maybe it was a little exaggerated, but it wasn't.

you need to look. city policy has done this to us. people like mayor lee inviting all the dot-com, and giving all of them -- and the techies the tax breaks. before them we had principals and banking, and that was one of the big majority of employers. we'll never be able to catch up with providing housing for

people who are poor when you attract in that kind of business. you just have to get rid of them as much as possible. when the dot-com left we just breathed a sigh of relief because the traffic disappeared. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. this is peter cohen from the council of community housing organization. thank you for having this -- really this continuation hearing from november 8, when you focused on the recently completed housing our workers project. our organization is very honored to work with the housing council and jobs for justice to do. appreciate the planning department producing the first jobs fit report for san francisco. we look forward to fine-tuning the methodology. that said i just want to emphasize that the jobs housing fit data, all these cool

numbers, it's just a tool for policy making, and it would be valuable to step back and say, how is this shedding some light on how we're doing, and i honestly don't think it takes rocket science to see that there are major course changes necessary to ensure that our housing production is meeting the needs of actual working families and that's the punch line of all of this. i think you really have to have your kind of head in the sand to say we're somehow coming even close to the mark, the dramatic unmet needs for low-income and middle-income working families especially in the heart of the pandemic it's unconscionable. we have to prioritize housing production for low and middle-income workers first.

market rate housing will do fine because it has its own kind of engine and its over kind of drummer, and we have to come together as a city to think about housing as actual people. i'm speaking to the choir here.

>> -- but clearly inadequate market inclusionary zoning that we use to build housing now. and third the board has

allocated 64 million in the housing stability fund which really should be considered the seed funds of that robust program. now that we've gotten this guidance, we need to use the tools that will maximize the housing production using the revenue stream from prop i and taking a page from los angeles's rapid expansion of their rail system during the early years of the obama administration. >> clerk: we are at two minutes for public comment, so i apologize if i have to cut you off. next speaker, please.

we have five callers in the queue. >> hi. this is peter papadapoulos with the housing [indiscernible] agency. we look forward to seeing this further data that you all are talking about. that would be very helpful. unfortunately, covid has made clear, as you all know more than ever, more critical to keep our workforce in the city for reasons we've known for so far the inclusivity, the vibrant culture, and also, the deepening understanding that they are the backbone of our city, and we need them here with us and part of keeping these workers and their families in the city we think it's a big part of that is continuing to add a big supply of our family housing, intentionally building these

family-style units and continuing to expand the home ownership opportunities that someone just referenced. for a lot of folks, that is a meaningful avenue to lay a stake down in the city. we think that this report you know very much gives us a great opportunity to take a subjective look at where we stand right now, and moving forward from here to make some housing worker goals really come into actuality at this point because i think we all

share that value. and i think because we all share -- >> clerk: thank you, mr. papadoulos. again if you have not done so already and you wish to be added to the queue, you need to press star, three. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. charlie [indiscernible] with poder. we are a social justice agency grassroots community planning to address our multiple crises in environment, planning and civil rights. what we know is that our efforts haven't kept us on track to ensure that our housing system actually fits with the need in communities. we know that our population is growing and demands more housing. and we know that our current

population is underhoused with so many homeless living in poor conditions, or displaced. the affordability and local geography are housing factors that are too often left out of discussions. our local low and moderate income workers [indiscernible] which gets in the way of being able to engage civically in their local neighborhoods and long commutes contribute to greenhouse gas emissions. when our sedge workforce is vulnerable when our local workforce aren't able to stay

in the neighborhoods that they work in our communities don't thrive. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next speaker. we have eight listeners with three in the queue. >> good afternoon, supervisors. thank you so much for holding this hearing this afternoon. my name is cynthia gomez from united care local 2. i'm a housing care analyst, and i've spoken to you numerous times in askdiscussing the housing needs of our workers.

the rapidly increasing cost of housing in san francisco has risen at a much faster pace than wage growth.

there are a lot of solutions identified in the report that are innovate tiff. i look forward to hearing discussions about solutions to house our communities. >> good afternoon supervisors. my name is robert, and i live in district five. the planning department's report shows that san francisco is trailing at producing housing at all levels.

it's really rather pathetic. this is not the only report that acknowledges this. you know the 2016 residential affordable housing nexus analysis says and i quote, if new market rate units are not built, would-be residents of the new units may instead compete for limited existing housing stock, end quote. that's the status quo, skband that's what the planning department is projecting for the next 20 years and beyond. the jobs-housing fit report shows that deficited are present in all categories going forward, and the situation does not demand that we just spend more and more money to solve that particular problem. we should not be spending city funds on solving our market rate housing issues.

i think none of these analyses that we've heard have talked about barriers to producing new housing. you know the california department of housing and community development has sent a letter to the board of supervisors asking for findings about why several recent projects were rejected or delayed 450 o'farrell street, and 469 stevenson street and i will say that the board's position is extremely precarious. san francisco's way of doing business at the state level is to ignore state housing law as long as possible and that's having dire consequences for every housing group in the city. [indiscernible]. >> clerk: we have one caller left in the queue. again, if you would like to speak and have not done so

already, you would just need to press star three. >> good afternoon supervisors. this is kim [indiscernible] with the san francisco labor council. i think a lot of what i want to say has been said before. we are in the midst of a terrible housing crisis. when you hear small businesses and employers saying that they can't find workers, we have chased away most of those workers because they can't find housing in san francisco, and if they can't find housing in san francisco, they are likely to get jobs in the communities where they live. those are traditionally lower paying jobs and they can find those jobs where they're at

rather than driving into the city. every time we gentrify a neighborhood, we are chasing those workers out of the city. so i want you to be aware of as these things happen, we really need to focus on working family housing in the city. this is the critical family crisis in the city. this is what we must build for. if you want to see workers, you want to see some of those workers needed signs come down, we need to get them to come back. it's just that they can find jobs where they live they can find those jobs in their community. coming to the city, some people are traveling four, five hours in one direction just to come

to the city. our environment, it's not good fog for our environment. let's build for work are families. that's where the deficit is -- >> clerk: thank you. all right. so we now have two callers left in the queue. let's take the last two callers. >> hi supervisors. i wanted to call today [indiscernible] but a sufficient quantity that people might be able to live here that weren't, as supervisor preston emphasizes of the high income level. i would like to see normal people be able to return, i'd like to see this filled again with artists and musicians, and the path to that affordability i believe is found in this

conversation here. so i'm calling for housing affordability, and we need to force sufficiently to be able to enable artists and musicians to live in the city. i think that decision still remains in your hands and whether you can manage to resolve this crisis in a satisfactory manner, or whether you choose to stymie it so only the wealthiest can live here is probably in our city planners' hands despite s.b. 35, so i'm calling for you to make the right decision and build enough housing for everyone who wants to live here.

thank you. >> clerk: thank you, caller. you have one caller left in the queue. >> hello, supervisors. [indiscernible] and i wanted to thank the committee, absolutely thank the committee and the agencies that put together this jobs-housing report and my first comment is that i truly believe we very definitely need to produce this report not every four years but every year since affordable housing is the number one need of our city and we need to see how we're doing. but aside from that, and overall, not to repeat what people have said what's not helping is that it's very

deceptive for some to keep arguing that we need to build housing at all levels. this report clearly shows that san francisco needs to promote the building of a majority of housing at affordable levels [indiscernible] thank you very much. >> clerk: that concludes the queue madam chair. >> chair melgar: thank you very much madam clerk. supervisor mar, did you have any closing remarks for this hearing? >> supervisor mar: yeah well i want to thank everybody who called in during this hearing, yeah just sharing your remarks on this really important issue and how we as a city can

address the housing crisis or affordability crisis that's facing low-income households. and i want to thank everyone for the presentation and all the work that's been done on this jobs-housing fit report and i think this confirms what the community already knows, that we're grossly underbuilding the housing for low-income how's holds, and we need to incorporate our workforce housing needs in our housing decisions in all areas of preservation and protection. building housing for families,

it's based on good regulation and equitable land use policies. and we in the community, and i think our leaders here know better [indiscernible] to try to address these very urgent problems, and indeed, we're not waiting on the market. we need to build new kinds of housing in every neighborhood, implementing a comprehensive housing acquisition plan creating social housing and cooperatives, providing housing development incentives for homeowners to stabilize and build in our communities, innovative ideas like these that will push us toward the guarantee of high quality affordable workforce housing and really housing as a human right in you'reour city. in the new year, i know that many of these proposals will be

brought to the table, and i ask that as we engage in those policy conversations, we use the lens to adjust housing-workforce balance and i would like this committee to continue this hearing to the call of the chair and request that the planning department come back to this committee, i would say, in three months' time or so with an update on how the jobs housing workforce analysis is being incorporated in the department's work particularly with a housing update. so i want to thank everyone for their hard work on this and i look forward to the continued discussion and collaboration. >> supervisor peskin: so moved. >> chair melgar: thank you so much. madam clerk remind me. did i close public comment? >> clerk: i believe that we didn't officially close it.

>> chair melgar: okay. so public comment is closed. okay. so there is a motion on the floor. madam clerk will you please take roll. >> clerk: yes. on the motion to continue this item to the call of the chair moved by supervisor peskin -- [roll call] >> clerk: you have three ayes. >> chair melgar: thank you so much, and thank you for all your work, supervisor mar and planning department staff. much appreciated. madam clerk, do we have any other items in front of us? >> clerk: that concludes the business for us tonight. >> chair melgar: we are adjourned. thank you so much.

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>> we have private and public gardens throughout the garden tour. all of the gardens are volunteers. the only requirement is you're willing to show your garden for a day. so we have gardens that vary from all stages of development and all gardens, family gardens private gardens, some of them as small as postage stamps and others pretty expansive. it's a variety -- all of the world is represented in our gardens here in the portola. >> i have been coming to the portola garden tour for the past seven or eight years ever since i learned about it because it is the most important event of the neighborhood and the reason it is so important is because it links this neighborhood back to

its history. in the early 1800s the portola was farmland. the region's flowers were grown in this neighborhood. if you wanted flowers anywhere future bay area you would come to this area to get them. in the past decade the area has tried to reclaim its roots as the garden district. one of the ways it has done that is through the portola garden tour where neighbors open their gardens open their gardens to people of san francisco so they can share that history. >> when i started meeting with the neighbors and seeing their gardens i came up with this idea that it would be a great idea to fundraise. we started doing this as a

fund-raiser. since we established it we awarded 23 scholarships and six work projects for the students. >> the scholarship programs that we have developed in association with the portola is just a win-win-win situation all around. >> the scholarship program is important because it helps people to be able to tin in their situation and afford to take classes. >> i was not sure how i would stay in san francisco. it is so expensive here. i prayed so i would receive enough so i could stay in san francisco and finish my school which is fantastic, because i don't know where else i would have gone to finish. >> the scholarships make the difference between students being able to stay here in the city and take classes and having to go somewhere else. [♪] [♪]

>> you come into someone's home and it's they're private and personal space. it's all about them and really their garden and in the city and urban environment, the garden is the extension of their indoor environment, their outdoor living room. >> why are you here at this garden core? it's amazing and i volunteer here every year. this is fantastic. it's a beautiful day. you walk around and look at gardens. you meet people that love gardens. it's fantastic. >> the portola garden tour is the last saturday in september every year. mark your calendars every year. you can see us on the website

>> [inaudible] i'm a illustrator by day and a [inaudible] composition teacher. right now i'm practice by transscribing [inaudible] that is what i have been doing the past couple years, teaching myself. california college of the arts, illustration there has really great teachers. robert hunt, vance story taught me a lot. what i'm working on is a portfolio [inaudible] riding a donkey unicorn in the

process. >> my name is dawn richardson and musician, drummer and drum teacher. i guess i would say i started my professional path quh i started playing in bands and teaching drum lesson when i was in college. they were definitely not that many women that would do what is doing. in 198 8 i graduated from cal state los ang and studied mostly classical percussion and music education but at the same time i was in hollywood so played at night in rock bands so was doing two different things. >> the reason i'm [inaudible] the people. there is a extremely vibrant art community especially arounds the red poppy art house [inaudible] as a

artist in the past 2 or 3 years there is a event called the [inaudible] every 3 months a free art music festival that i usually play at and just met so many people. >> i was teaching a little bit and doing odd jobs like waitressing and going at night and playing in bands and meeting a lot of people. i chss in ban that had cool break jz get parts on tv shows or things like that. a friend of mine, we had mutual friends that got signed to a record deal in san francisco called 4 nonblaunds and i addition frd the bands and moved to the bay area. i think things are different now than 30 years ago, the world evolved a lot. it could be a

challenge but have to know how to negotiate everything and sometimeatize is [inaudible] it was great to get to a point where i was just treated like another one of the people, a musician not a female musician and that is always what [inaudible] >> you don't hear stuff on the radio [inaudible] i need to write music [inaudible] be more conscious in their decisions and somehow make that poetic so they will be convinced. i think i will do that. [singing in backgrounds] drawing and writing music since i was a really little kid and fortunate enough to have a good education in art and parentss who supported me. i hope my life will continue to allow me to do both. >> for me now having all male,

female girls, boys students it shows the world has changed a lot and people areope toon open to a lot more than they were in the past. you can get a deep satisfaction from responding a lot of year practicing in one thing and becoming really good at something. sometimes i think that it is better to get lost. you have to practice and become good at what you do, so if you have everything together then go out in the world and do what you do and then i think people weal accept that.

>> the market is one of our vehicles for reaching out to public and showing them how to prepare delicious simple food. people are amazed that the library does things like that. biblio bistro is a food education program. it brings such joy to people. it teaches them life skills that they can apply anywhere and it encourages them to take care of themselves. my name is leaf hillman and i'm a librarian and biblio bistro is my creation. i'm a former chef and i have been incubating this idea for

many years. we are challenged to come up with an idea that will move the library into the future. this inspired me to think, what can we do around cooking? what can i do around cooking? we were able to get a cart. the charlie cart is designed to bring cooking to students in elementary students that has enough gear on it to teach 30 students cooking. so when i saw that i thought bingo, that's what we're missing. you can do cooking classes in the library, but without a kitchen, it's difficult. to have everything contained on wheels that's it. i do cooking demonstrations out at the market every third wednesday. i feature a seafood, vegetable, and i show people how to cook the vegetable. >> a lot of our residents live in s.r.o.s single resident

occupancies and they don't have access to full kitchens. you know, a lot of them just have a hot plate, a microwave, and the thing that biblio bistro does really well is cook food accessible in season and make it available that day. >> we handout brochures with the featured recipe on the back. this recipe features mushrooms, and this brochure will bring our public back to the library. >> libraries are about a good time. >> i hired a former chef. she's the tickle queen at the

ramen shop in rockwood. we get all ages. we get adults and grandparents and babies and, you know school-age kids and it's just been super terrific. >> i was a bit reluctant because i train teachers and adults. i don't train children. i don't work with children, and i find it very interesting and a bit scary, but working here really taught me a lot you know how easily you can influence by just showing them what we have and it's not threatening, and it's tasty and fun. i make it really fun with kids because i don't look like a teacher. >> in the mix, which is our team center, we have programs for our kids who are age 13 to 18 and those are very hands on. the kids often design the menu. all of our programs are very

interactive. >> today, we made pasta and garlic bread and some sauce. usually, i don't like bell pepper in my sauce, but i used bell pepper in my sauce, and it complemented the sauce really well. i also grated the garlic on my bread. i never thought about that technique before but i did it and it was so delicious. >> we try to teach them techniques where they can go home and tell their families i made this thing today, and it was so delicious. >> they're kind of addicted to these foods, these processed foods, like many people are. i feel like we have to do what we can to educate people about that. the reality is we have to live

in a world that has a lot of choices that aren't necessarily good for you all the time. >> this is interesting, but it's a reaction to how children are brought up. it is fast-food, and the apple is a fast-food, and so that sort of changes the way they think about convenience, how eating apple is convenient. >> one of the things that i love about my program out at the market is the surprise and delight on people's faces when they finally taste the vegetable. it's been transformative for some people. they had never eaten those vegetables before but now they eat them on a regular basis. >> all they require is a hot plate and a saute pan, and they realize that they're able to cook really healthy, and it's also tasty. >> they also understand the importance of the connection that we're making. these are our small business

owners that are growing our food and bringing it fresh to the market for them to consume, and then, i'm helping them consume it by teaching them how to cook. >> it connects people to the food that they're buying. >> the magic of the classes in the children's center and the team center is that the participants are cooking the food themselves and once they do that they understand their connection to the food to the tools, and it empowers them. >> we're brokering new experiences for them so that is very much what's happening in the biblio bistro program. >> we are introducing kids many times to new vocabulary. names of seasonings, names of vegetables names of what you call procedures. >> i had my little cooking

experience. all i cooked back then was grilled cheese and scrambled eggs. now, i can actually cook curry and a few different thing zblz and . >> and the parents are amazed that what we're showing them to cook is simple and inexpensive. i didn't know this was so easy to make. i've only bought it in the market. those comments have been amazing and yeah, it's been really wonderful. >> we try to approach everything here with a well just try it. just try it once, and then, before you know it, it's gone. >> a lot of people aren't sure how to cook cauliflower or kale or fennel or whatever it is,

and leah is really helpful at doing that. >> i think having someone actually teaching you here is a great experience. and it's the art of making a meal for your family members and hope that they like it. >> i think they should come and have some good food good produce that is healthy and actually very delicious. >> cooking is one of my biggest passions, to be able to share, like my passion with others, and skills to h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

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rainstorm last year that was racing down this hill i went out and when there was a break in the weather to make sure that was clear and that was definitely debris that draws down i make sure i have any bathroom we me and sweep that away that makes a big difference sfwrts can fleet floated and every year we were coming home he it was rainey noticed it the water with hill high on the corner and she was in her rain boats so she had fun doing that. >> i saved our house. >> so adopt a drain 25 locations that you cananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananto

order the december 10, 2021 meeting of the redistricting task force at 3:06 p.m. mr. clerk, are there any announcements? >> clerk: i'm muted? >> you were a minute ago. >> i just asked if there were any announcements?