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>> all right. the first order of business is general public comment, and i'll ask senior inspector rice, is there any public comment? >> i'm checking right now, and there is none. >> all right. the next agenda item is number two, which is the approval of the minutes from november 26, 2021 commission meeting. do we have a motion to approve the minutes? >> i move to approve the minutes. >> second. >> i'll double down. >> all right. is there any public comment on the minutes? >> there is none. >> all right. then we can vote. >> clerk: okay. [roll call]

>> all right. the meeting's minutes have been approved. the next is item 3, which is a report from executive director weiland. >> hello, and good evening, commissioners, again. i have a very brief report this evening as announcements. as you all know, we are going to be hosting a small holiday gathering this year. a little bit unlike years past, it's not going to be formal in regard to programming, so it's just a come, hangout, meet up, celebrate, and i think we all just need to get together after being apart for so long and be able to just have a moment with each other and people in your industry. so that's happening a week from tomorrow, wednesday, december

15. we hope you can all be there, and we're following policy for you all so you can attend as a quorum. it's going to be at the white chapel. that's 600 polk street, at the corner of turk. it starts at 5:30, and it's going to be a cash bar, and you can buy food if you're hungry. so hope all of you guys can make it, and we've put out information on our social media channel and on our newsletter, which went out to all of our membership on friday of last week, and we're going to repost a few more times, so just share it with people in the industry. we'd love to see you, again, next week, december 15, at 5:30 p.m., at white chapel on polk

street at the corner of turk. that's it. >> very good. is there any questions, are there any questions? >> there is no public comment. >> okay. let's move onto the report from the deputy director caitlin azevedo. >> thank you. only a few items to inform you about. we received 36 violations in the last week, and it was the slowest that inspector

fiorentino had. i have a few updates for you, and the first is to discuss may's. we received 19 complaints about maze since july of this year, with a recent uptick in complaints beginning in october. all but the first complaint have been anonymous, and the inspector has visited the business eight times? he's found the business in compliance all but once. the one instance where they were not in compliance, they heard music coming into the alleyway. this was on november 6, and it ended up coming from the kitchen where employees were working and had the door propped open. so inspector fiorentino talked to them about sound and spoke with the owner, and they closed the door. the owner has since installed sound curtains to try to

mitigate the sound. since october 6, we've received eight complaints and responded through times more, so we're recommending that we deprioritize future complaints at this time. the next is ocean beach cafe at 733 la playa street. recently, they underwent an ownership change, and you all granted the new owner an l.l.p. since july. they also hold a j.a.m. permit for their outdoor entertainment and sound. the owner recently informed me that they're being harassed by a neighborhood. inspector fiorentino noticed the sound being slightly louder

than the volume was allowed. he informed the owner, and the owner turned down the music immediately, and we received another complaint, and when we responded, they were within limits. the last business is [indiscernible] at 633 hayes street. inspector fiorentino responded in real-time. he spoke with the owner about the j.a.m. permit requirement, and within a week, the owner had obtained a j.a.m. permit. so since then, we received another complaint. inspector fiorentino responded and they were in full compliance with their j.a.m. conditions. he spoke to the owner about the complaint and he was really eager to be a good neighbor. since the complaint was anonymous, i ask the complainant if he could give

the owner his contact information, and he said yes. i just want to highlight the excellent work that our field inspectors are doing to ensure compliance and neighborhood capability. so that's all for the director's report, but i'm happy to answer questions if you have any. >> questions? >> i notice that edinburgh castle is back in the report again, but i didn't notice anything changing. >> yeah. we're still receiving complaints. inspector fiorentino has responded to a couple of them when they come in, and there's just a person, maybe no people in there. it's very quiet programmed music that's playing. they have not been in violation of their permit conditions, even remotely close to, and i

did receive a copy of the incident report from that incident at northern station about the patron that came in -- what is the word that i'm looking for, came in and wreaked havoc -- that's not the word i'm looking for. came in and destroyed equipment. i was not able to confirm that it was, in fact, the neighbor who had been sort of complaining constantly, as well. i just don't know for certain who the individual -- >> can i ask you, do you know if we collected any footage? >> i believe that no footage was collected -- definitely on our end. >> well, it would have been listed in the police report if it was. >> i can double-check, but i don't believe that any was. >> okay. if it was, please let me know. >> okay. sounds great.

>> okay. any further questions? i'm just going to share the slide real quick in case anybody wants to call in. all right. i'm checking right now, and there are no hands raised, and no comments in the chat. >> okay. amazing. one holiday fact, every time our inspectors show up in real-time for a complainant, and the permit holders are completely in compliance, an angel gets its wings. >> you've got to ring a bell. >> i think it's just when our permit holders are in compliance, but i haven't seen the movie. the next item is number 5,

review and possible action to amend just add music permit 125, d.b.a., the midway, located at 900 marin terrific, for extended hours of outdoor entertainment and amplified sound for one-time events on 12-31-2021, 1-1-2022, and 1-2-2022. >> these next two items are mine, so i'll take it from here. good evening, commissioners. we're hearing [indiscernible] midway is asking for extended hours of outdoor entertainment and amplified sound for december 31, january 1, and

january 2. they are expecting 6,000 attendees. this would allow the midway to host extended hours of entertainment past new year's eve at midnight, until 1:00 a.m., until ten hours on the day on january 1 and 12 hours during the day on january 2. you'll see in your folder, in their jam application, you'll see their neighborhood security plan and neighborhood outreach including their neighbors and a map of where the outreach happened. there's no opposition to this permit, and we did not receive any response from bayview

station within the response window, and here to speak with you is jordan from the midway. i'm going to bring in jordan right now. while i bring him in, the staff recommendation was approval with good neighbor policy. good evening, jordan. yourself. >> hi, as i was telling andrea give a minute or two overview of the event and the other information that you think would be helpful for our commissioners. >> fantastic. it's from 5:00 p.m. to ham in

recognition of ending the year of 2021 and giving into the first from 10:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. and the second from noon until 10:00 p.m. and the idea being that we're going to have djs out there and a big community event and artist performances and et cetera and and then our favorite new addition this year is adding bren much on that saturday morning and opening with that from that 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m. spot so in terms of neighborhood outreach, i shared a map with you and we've been out for several days talking to neighborhood businesses and as well as neighbors about the upcoming event and i've had a

positive response a the board so, that is most of us unless you have something you want to add. >> this is an event that the commissioners thank you for your time here today. quick addition to what andrea said this event has happened midway for the past couple of years but an event that both pete and i have been involved with for a number of years that one started as like the champions kind of progressed into what we do now called fresh start at midway and we've had pretty significant success both in the community side and we've been able to race a significant amount of money and food for good shelters and i think as a city and as a entertainment space, and us in that industry it's really important to be setting ourselves up to a note for the year to come and so this

is something we're excited to do to continue doing and hopefully continue on for years to come. >> questions? >> no? >> well, i'll have a question. it seems like the midway for, i don't know, reasons of whether or geography or whatever, seems to trigger sound concerns from very far away from the midway and that i still don't understand exactly the physics of it and whether it's across the bay and on alameda island or up to the valley it seems like they're just concerns that are beyond the local neighborhood and i'm wondering if they're anyway to sort of. >> aarti: be able to be able to

respond if people in farther away neighborhoods are registered tense and it's something and i appreciate the neighborhood outreach it looks fantastic and that is what we ask of everyone so for reasons i don't understand the midway and it's digger than you are and people across. >> on some incredible to have gotten that one complaint from and that's something that i'll talk about in my retirement and yeah, on the whole, we do seem to be registered. there's a couple of sort of bigger shows than what we've

done in the last couple weeks and we seem to be sort of places i'm going to go and listen and listen experience in real-time which it was like all right, how far do we turn it up to where they actually hear it and how far lower do we turn it down where it stops registering in these locations and then just sort of set our level accordingly and also just play with obviously different frequencies, travel, different ways of playing with that and have our sound lead with me our number two died back at the

venue and going back and fourth and it's physics and i'm sure we'll be able to result. >> gary: solve it. >> it's something that we have a fair amount of experience issuing in the past as well. back many, many years ago we did a fair amount of concerts at peer 70 and we had one in particular that we had concerns from alameda and brisbane making sure those were addressed and we didn't receive any after that and it was the entertainment commission and out outreach plan and we've did not doing it at midway since we started but now we're doing outdoor stuff, and been kind of put into the past two years and we've been growing that outreach much more strong

and we've been making a presence known in the neighborhood so i want to think it's important thing to answer your question, commissioners, is that we're able inform set up a hotline and we'll make that phone number very, very well circulated throughout the neighborhood on our website through social media channels so we as an entity, we can address these concerns and in real-time in addition. >> directionally without people going to you guys. >> without having, not that they can't or we don't want them to, we can address it in real-time in that moment to make sure that we're working with our neighborhoods and making sure that they're happy with what we're doing. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i do have one question, how well do you work with our inspectors when they do go out? >> for the most part, great.

it's been, this thing commissioner, this pretty rough on a lot of folks and i have had the any number of bars in my neighborhood sort of. maybe and not get treated the way that we would like for and local businesses to be treated and i know that and i know that this commission is all about sort of san francisco business and entertainment and certain people being able to get on and i think we'll do much better going forward and i think it might have been an isolated thing where some pent up

frustration from the last two years spilled over a little bit. on the whole, we're going to work to be better. >> i think that can also be continued and expanded upon or looked at our past and pete has been doing this in san francisco for 25 years and i've been doing this in san francisco going on 15 now and we've respected them and not everyone can be perfect and we're grateful to be here and hopeful for this passing of what we hope to be something is meaningful and significant and it's going an economic and entertainment bomb for san francisco. >> the reason i bring it up. for me and i am sure you know

how long i've been in this business too. yeah, we advocate for small businesses, all businesses, especially our venues because we're the first to close in the last to open and so we get it and our inspectors are there to help and we should kind of work together rather than -- everybody is frustrated. >> i agree, you are absolutely right. >> for me, look, i've had a place of entertainment since 2000 back in the day and it was rougher than, you know, we worked hard to get entertainment to be a lot evener and even playing field with neighbors and it's tough and we have a lot of new businesses are experiment with the jam permit and a lot more work for us and i just want to make sure that people like yourselves have been in the business so long it just kind of

hurts me that -- i just don't want, i've always respected even before being under the commissioners is inspectors that do come because they're not always going to be on the side of the neighbor, they want to make sure that you can do your business. i just don't want to hear side remarks or any comments like hey, you know, what is up with outside lands and we have no jurisdiction, ok, so, that's a different department and that's different and you are you and everybody has to go up to it and wore asking us for an extension and he want it and i hope to understand it. >> i understand and i agree and i was out of line. >> i have nothing else. >> you just deflated my one comment and that was steven kind

of opened the dor to this conversation now and i was trying to cipher your cryptic comments if that was the form of an apology but i just heard it. i guess we'll call it even. is this phone number available tonight? can we put it out. >> yes. >> can we go with it. >> yes. >> it's part of the social media and on your website. >> we'll do social media posts the week prior to the event just to get everything out and about and just have it be fresh in people's minds as we know everything gets buried on social media and then, the week of the event we're going to update that website to have it be on the front page. >> just on a serious note, it's critical that we all work

together and you have a large venue and how many years we've been at this and we have gray hair to prove it, it doesn't mean there's not room for improvement and the industry is evolving and we never anticipated having to step out doors and all the other abc laws that have all evolved and become permanent and are permanent so, i would just ask that there's extra vigilance this year with your events and especially around public safety and i want to knock on good. we had a lot of violence in our clubs and that is absent not just during covid because we weren't operated but prior to covid we shifted in a new direction and i would just really encourage you to make sure you have your security team up for snuff and the camera up to snuff and please, just run a safe event.

>> absolutely. >> anymore questions here. i just have a comment. this staff that works at entertainment commission isn't in it for the money right, it's a public sector job and they're doing it to serve the community and our inspectors love music and they're out trying to help and mitigate issues between neighbors and between license holders and when an inspectors comes out and someone is way out of compliance and that person basically tells them to f-off, and then calls into question their character, i take that personally and it's messed up and i appreciate hearing that we spoke out of turn and we feel bad about it but i just think this is awful. and so i just want to put that on the record. >> i was out of line. >> any further questions here? >> all right. then we can talk this over the

let's go to public comment and see if there is any public comment on this agenda item. >> i'm just going to share the screen for a few seconds. i'm checking now and there is yun. >> we will close public comment. do we have a motion? >> we move -- i move to approve with the good neighbor policy. >> were there other staff conditions or just that? >> no, they are already completely continued up. >> no worries. >> i'll second that. >> we are still waiting for the approved permit even though they were approved at hearing last week so, that's not true condition but we will copy that.

>> i'll send it through it just came in. we'll just note for the record that this is going to be a conditional grant of approval. >> great, perfect. >> i believe we can vote. >> thank you commissioners. >> all right. >> president bleiman. [roll call] >> all right. thank you you can follow-up with our staff for future steps. thank you. we can move onto the next. >> i'll be in touch. >> good luck. >> thank you for your time. >> all right. i believe senior inspectors rice will introduce the next agenda item or the next item. >> i will. let me pull up my information

here. and make sure that we think it's that with zoom. good evening, again, commissioners. tonight we are hearing from jackson, located at 3231 fill more street and jackson is requesting an amendment to their jam permit to allow them to old outdoor entertainment and amplified on three dates this month and december 11th, for santacon which is this weekend and december 18th, for a holiday of party and december 31st for new year's eve. on these dates, they will be hosting djs as well as playing music and in their outdoor shared space premises and they would host hours of sound and past 10:00 p.m. on the three dates and to see in your folder and jam permit and the prove of neighborhood outreach to

effected neighborhoods and there was no opposition to this permit and we did not receive a response from northern station within the response window and we assumed that they have no issues with the amendment and here to speak with you tonight is trista hewitt from jackson and i'm going to bring in trista right now.

>> when the drinking hours start and without sound people don't want to hang around. we would love to expend those hours for these three dates. we'll have nine guards working and there will be 12 two tons the end of the night and i have gone on with all of the neighbors within a two block radius or dropped letters with them and i've been in contact

with the main complainants in the past, the hotel across the street and the neighbors on the alleyway and i have notified them of our intent to have extend the hours on these dates. they have my phone number and my e-mail address and and i think that we've done a good job of reaching out and doing everything that we can to prevent anybody from being put out by these extended hours for us. >> president bleiman: any questions? >> well, i don't have any questions. let's open up for public comment, then.

let me share the screen for a few seconds. >> the end time is midnight all on all three dates for the record. it's in the memo. i'm checking right now and there is no public comment i think we can have a vote. >> i move to approve with the good neighbor policy. is there a second? >> who is the second? >> laura. >> great. >> all right. president bleiman. [roll call vote]

>> commissioner thomas? >> i said aye. it has been -- it has been approved. congratulations, you had me at 12 security guards. [laughter] >> that's quite a few. >> yeah, we're a very staffed on our security team. >> do you think you will have more security guards or white claws that the jackson customers will drink? >> we don't sell white claws. >> really, oh, man. you are making a mistake. thank you. you can follow-up with our staff and they'll give you the next steps but thank you for coming in. >> good luck. >> stay safe. >> thank you, i'll be in touch. >> thank you. >> president bleiman: number 6

is we are on to number 6. we are on to number 7 which is action to amend the permit conditions of the jam permit dba the blue right at 1979 union rather on going enforcement actions at the business. so i imagine someone on staff will have that. >> all right. i see that. >> all right. >> thank you president bleiman. what the request of the commission this item was agenized to bring the owner of the blue light before the commission to discuss on going jam permit violations at the business and to reiterate from our previous hearings enforcement at in the last year we have received 18 sound complaints about the blue light and have visited the business nine times and of the nine visits, they were in violation n of the jam permit seven times. we have two notice of violations by one citation which was issues

last movement the most recent violation was for having amplified five piece funk band playing when the jam permit specifies they're only allowed to have outdoor sound and acoustic entertainment meaning they are not permitted to have amplified entertainment outside. after i issued the citation, johnny connected with me with the talent booking agent whom i spoke at length to discuss the blue light jam permit conditions and i explained that they are allowed to have outdoor amplified pre-recorded music and outdoor acoustic live entertainment. the booking agent who knows foee perform and i let her know at end of the day it's johnny's name on the permit and he is liable for the operations of the business. the pandemic hit our business the hardest and it's tough to keep doors open. hosting entertainment is a wonderful opportunity to bring life back into the city but permit owners must abide by their permit conditions.

we've been fair with johnny and however we are now at a point where we need tone sure he is following his permit conditions which is the reason for the discussion tonight. we suggest using the opportunity of this agenda item to discussion following the rules and ensuring is that the blue lights programming is in coordinatance with their current permit conditions. if they're able to exhibit on going compliance, permissibility and to be reconditioned and entertainment per month and in the current jam condition for more information of the permit you can see that in the folder number 7 and located in your file and so here to speak with you this evening is the owner of the blue light, johnny.

>> president bleiman: this booking agent you were referred to, is this an employee of the blue light offer is this a third party agent? >> you will have toe defer to o johnny on that. >> i'll ask him. >> i'm going to bring him in right now. if you are there, can you please unmute yourself. >> does that work? >> yes, we can hear you. >> is my picture on here? >> we did not see your picture yet. >> there we go. >> there you are.

>> still trying to learn zoom. >> so, can you hear me? >> yeah. >> so what are we -- do you want him to, it's not even really, it's just basically we're talking about it and so johnny what's up? >> hey, guys. yeah, so first of all, sorry we had to come in front of you guys it's been a crazy year and it's a third party person that we hired to oversee the outdoor music and so immediately after i received the citation, i just stopped having the outdoor music. this is a fantastic program and i think it adds quite a bit to the culture of the city and even brings a lot of work to artists

and i just don't have the management and i think a lot of restaurants and bars and nightclubs are going through this too and i've been trying to put together a management team since we reopened and it's been difficult. now we're ready to begin outdoor music again. >> so all these complaints that we're having basically you weren't around and is that what

you were trying to say? >> the got there and i did see and i did see that they've put a amplified instrument this is there and i went inside and i when they take a break and we have the investigators come in too and right that are too and i don't think the other ones in there and i didn't get a visit -- i've had visits too when he is here and he didn't notice it and we had a noise complaint but we didn't have music outside and i have had noise complaint when we were closed. >> blue light, i mean, i lived in that neighborhood for 20 years. when blue light had live music it was a total different era then right. >> union street is so sensitive now and you are lucky to even get that jam permit at all,

right, because out sensitive the neighborhood is. someone in your management has control over these people before the noise is get on board and suddenly, like you said, you have voice complaints when you were not there and people get super sensitive and think anything with the car driving by is you. so, you've been there long enough and you've been there when i was around that how neighbors can be and we just want you to -- i know that it's been tough on all of us, right, and i still have say shortage of staff getting people to work and i have to work because there's shortage of people and at the same time, you have to be around when you have the music so you can control it unless your bar manager really does it otherwise you might lose it all together, right. >> i agree. i just want to put it on hold

right now. >> until i do have that person in place that can be there on a thursday. we were doing music from five to eight on thursday and fridays. >> how many people actually work at blue light right now? you have a manager, couple bar tenders. >> i have six bar tenders and a couple servers and books and a couple of security as well. >> you are not there, who is in charge? >> i do have someone? charge when i'm not there. who is still more or less in a learning process. i've been trying to be there as much as possible. >> even for me, i have to be on premise. i hope in the future, you are more on the promise to monitor these things so, it just takes,

i mean, there's other people that are trying to get entertainment on the street and when it goes bad it goes rogue and ruins it for everybody else so we've been trying to get small business back on their feet. >> i appreciate that. that's why i wanted to put it on hold and i had a manager right when the covid ended, and we were allowed to open up inside but they left for a different industry. >> i feel you, i've been the same low. >> i'm still in the training searching so until i get things organized, i won't have music outside. >> ok. i'm done. so johnny, if i can ask you a couple questions, so i guess what i gather is the way it's been operating, you've had an ad hoc manager, one of the bar tenders or something and that person was having a challenge managing the live entertainment.

is that the short version? >> well, i know that last episode where it was actually a band that was not following the rules and yes, they had a hard time. the bands shows up and started. >> i wasn't saying you were shutting down entertainment and i wanted you to say that's never the intent of this commission and we would, let me speak for myself, i would rather see you get a competent person on staff and continue successfully doing your live entertainment and if you feel that was the part we

wanted to stress was really taking our inquires serious because a lot of this could pause at the staff level and you know you are a very busy guy and we have a lot on our calendars and you know, we don't -- if we're bringing you forward, it's nice to talk about the good things happening in your business and not so good. so i guess the real takeaway is the other part and i want to explain why i asked a question i asked and this goes back to something i had to deal with for many years a long, long time ago is really it isn't our role to educate third party employees and you know, i was very kind of kaitlyn to do that follow through and i would have preferred that this was more of a conference call and you be son the call as well and i would just say that it's your business to run and i think it's also

your job to manage your third party and your third party contracts thaw get into because the oldest line in the book used to be, people will do finger pointing at the booking agent and the band and the opener would never say it's my business, maybe it's my responsibility to get more involved and i have to say you are saying that tonight so i really am not pressing that on you. so, i just want to say, for myself, i wish you continued success and i hope you turn the corner and i hope you get the switch turned back on and a productive and safeway. >> i appreciate that, thank you. i'll communicate with kaitlyn when i have the team in place and we're ready to have some music outside again. it's a fantastic program. i've gone down to shows at other venues as well and i command them for putting it in place. >> it's brilliant. >> it's done well it makes san francisco great. >> right. >> we're all passionate about

that. >> right. that's why i didn't want to be a bad vibe on that program at all. >> got cha. good luck. >> just make sure you are parklet is in compliance. [laughter] >> i'm still confused on that role. >> i got a lot of play today. >> yeah, yeah. >> that i need education on. >> thank you. thank you all of you very much. >> other questions from anyone? >> >> i don't think you main any ill will towards anybody and you from do it first and ask for forgiveness mentality which i think is t works sometimes and it's not working and you know that and a couple things are going on here and one it's pretty clear your restrictions were just acoustic music and it

was supposed to be over at 10 and it's not the case and it stretches imagination to think that you didn't know that and we're not punitive here and we're not trying to punish people but, there's a big difference between doing that doors and having some complaints and doing an outdoor like in the front of the business for the world to see and i do think that in this specific situation and it's just so obvious right and so i'm sad that you are wanting to shut it down and i don't want you to do that and i think that at least in dealing with the entertainment commission, i think you will find from our staff's perspective that we're not particularly oppressive government body just trying to regulate you out of a distance and i think that everybody h

everybody wants to promote to do it and our fission and actually working with us can be easier that not working around us or not working at all i would just encourage you to reframe your way thaw treat this commission and especially for things that are happening in front of your business and of course we have to show up and it's the law and it's literally what we have to do by-law, right. so i don't need you to comment to that and i'm not looking for may a culpa but he have so many different permit holders that work with us and we jump through hoops to figure out how to make it work for them, right and all we ask is they follow the limits. come to us and we'll figure out a way to change the limits by when you get these violations

it's harder and you dig yourself a hole so those are just my comments -- we're not hard and

this is easy stuff and it's the same people we tend to see over and over in here and are those who try to like figure a way around it and other people aren't even, we don't have to -- they're not on our radar because we're working with them so it's like, at one point it's like dude, it's not working just try working with us, you know. i think you will find it to be very satisfying and hopeful. >> rewarding. >> maybe don't take us for granted because you are an old school guy, you know. there's an option. >> if you have a band out of compliance and you put them in your kitchen next time and i don't have any further questions

here. >> there's when we bring it back. >> if you are going to just work with us, man, we'll figure it out. >> anybody else for questions and comments. thank you for coming. we can -- do we have to have public comment. is there a public comment on this agenda item? >> sharing this for a few seconds here. i'm checking and there is none. we'll move along to the next agenda item and it is number eight which is -- >> president bleiman, before you move on, do you think that you should take a motion to do anything on that item like not to actor do you think we're good just leaving it as discussion? >> i mean, i think -- i think it's probably fine.

>> >> we have to vote because we have the option of voting and that's my understanding. >> yeah. so if there's no further -- >> just think of something agenized noticed as a vote it doesn't mean you have to take a vote if there's no action required and we're deferring potential action and into the future but, now we're wishing the blue light well and their every do you ever and that's all we're doing. >> thank you. >> thank you for stand north as city attorney there. >> are there any other comments? >> all right. i think we're good then. all right, so now we're moving on to number to formally adopt

review criteria for making a determination on one-time event permit applications with outdoor amplified sand and or outdoor entertainment and requesting extended duration for article 15.1 of the police code and i believe director will you walk us through this quickly? >> this will help repetitive to all of you from our last hearing as it should and so, nothing has changed, we're just they are putting that together in a format similar to our rdr criteria and how we assess the project and how we portray that

assessment criteria with permit applicants and so this is going to be posted on our website and we'll have your actual vote from this evening so nothing has changed just formally put it together and something that more easily ledgeable for the user. >> all right solve in that casea motion to adopt these changes. >> questions first, anyone? >> move to approve. >> is there any public comment on this agenda item. >> i'm checking and there is none. we can vote. >> ok, president bleiman.

[roll call vote] >> let's just say she's lefting meeting and we have a quorum and we're moving on to commissioner -- [roll call vote] >> they have been adopted. all right. the next agenda item is number nine which is commissioner comment and questions and new business requests for future agenda items and nick got anything? nope. >> i will say i'm available for any and all podcast invitations. [laughter] >> you are our guest that was so fun. >> it's a lot of fun and i'm also so, yes, president bleiman has a podcast and he invited me on and i shared my opinions and

good time with that by call. [please stand by]