permit center for providing that support and as we provide holistic assistance, that will be coming up in a year. then legacy business, continue with the plaque installation. so i think in the future you're going to need to sort of work in support of budgeting wise to see if we can escalate the number of plaques being installed for the upcoming years because at the rate we're going it will take many years so but that is a budgeting component . so that all of our legacy businesses that are able to have a plaque on the exterior of their building are able to do so and then of course the neighborhood anchor and there is one full-time fte that rick has identified that will be soon coming on with the program

and then the neighborhood anchoring business program is to hire the one fte and implement a program director, future director katie can will be overseeing and implementing. and just high-level budget for each year first of all overhead so personnel does include salary andbenefits . the overhead bus pay our operational expenses. the legacy business program i did not include carryforward but in this particular budget that's rick so he provided you with that detailed information and then just taking a look at the total for the department budget. you can see that in fiscal year

19-20 was 5 million 2400 and that was the 500,000 was through and out back by the board of supervisors assistance grant and with that , thank you for your indulgence and time for this report. and the presentation and i wil , i'm happy to take any questions, clarifyingquestions you may have . that was a lot. you're doing quitea bit . >> it's a lot to see all in on place like that . we have collectively done a lot but very much with your guidance. do wehave any questions ?

carrie, could you do me the kind favor of sending both the annual report and the legacy business annual report to myself and the other commissioners? we can spend some more time analyzing this and thinking about this. seeing no comment, is there any public commenters on the line? >> clerk: there is nobody on the line.>> president: the mind reels. there's just so much going on and so much to absorb and i particularly agree with all your comments on opportunities going forward. particularly asyou know improving our communication .

so with that, next item please. >> clerk: item of small-business updates, this is a discussion item is entered by director dick-endrizzi. >> okay. i will provide thatin just a moment . commissioners, i just want to make sure before you as we go through the transition of director for me to katie kane just provide you with our budget update for fiscal year 2022. our fiscal years are july 1 through june 30. so i've broken thisout in a

little more detail but currently , what our budget allocation is for personnel is wehave the director position . we have the 4 sec staff and as i noted we technically just have three and we have a public service training he who ... helps with business but then more simplifies business counseling. we have the legacy business program manager and fund a person in the small business development center, a past fte in small business development center to provide thattechnical assistance for legacy businesses .then that total budget is 1,258,000 195.

then in addition, what's being added this year. the staff is going to grow as the programs grow but to the two additional sba staff for the permit center the one legacy business person that rickhas spoken of . and then the one neighborhood anchoring business program staff fte that's assigned. so that is an additional $651,988. the total personnel that's budgeted for this fiscal year is 1,000,910. 910,183. and then our overhead has gone up a little bit from the previous years so that's159,522

. our operational expenses, i've broken this out and pulled in some of the legacy business and anchorbusiness programs expenses under operating . so to summarize our briefing we budget for this year 47,875 to be able to ensure that the small business community has access to the meetings by sfgov.org. general operating expensesare at 52,938 . the legacy business it's sort of annual operating expensesis 20,400 . that's definitelyallocated every year . then this year we have an additional legacy business marketing which is part of the budget for this year but it's not part of the budget annually.

that's the 75,500 that rick highlighted. the neighborhood anchoring business, there is a one time budget that's been budgeted as part of the ad back in 80,000 to work on marketing and to conduct a survey of the neighborhood anchoring businesses once that program is up and going and then annually the neighborhood anchoring business is going to receive a $25,000 allocation as part of its annual sort of operational and programmatic support. and then for the legacy business grant program and the known carryforward or for this fiscal year at 1,000,500 thousand 400. so this now increases the overall budget for the office at 3,000,678 thousand 596.

and then i did want to show you now what the organizational chart looks like . so over here to the right i have removed the public service division, this was a temporary position. the person who occupied that position has moved on to another job so this was a temporary position , this position will not carryforward for right now. so what you do see is we have our current three business case managers. we have the two additionalcase managers or permit center . we have rick of the legacy business program and then the new position for to support the legacy business program. and then the neighborhood anchoring assistance program manager so just to provide you with a visual in terms of how

the office will be structured once everybody willbe hired. so once everybody is hired . and with that i'm happy to take any questions that you may have with regard to the budget this year. again, this is not for you to approve. it's to give you an idea so that you know what's ahead for the new director and some of the program focus that she will be experiencing asshe comes on at the first of the year .>> do we have anyquestions ? do we have any public comment? >> we do not. >> seeing on public comment is closed. next item. >> clerk: item 10, resolution number 005-2021, sbc disabled

access credit expansion act of 2021. this is a discussion and action item. the discussion may take action on a resolution requesting the board of supervisors to adopt a resolution that urges congress to pass the disabled access credit expansion act of 2021. presenting today is director david grayson. >> thank you carrie. this is resolution is urging the board of supervisors to adopt a resolution to urge all federal elected to take action on the disabled tax credit. and for your information, when the board of supervisors adopts the resolution . it is essentially and it is forwarded either to our state or federal electives. it essentially is the city saying we want you tosupport this measure and take action on it and ensure it gets passed . so that's why we are urging the board of supervisors to draft

and adopt a resolution. this this tax credit extension so apparently the taxcredit right now is 10,000 , approximately 10,000 but you can take up to 50 percent of 10,000 so that's $5000. this will increase the tax credit to ... and i amrealizing i am forgetting the full number . >> i believe it's a ceiling of 10,500 for the credits. >> 20,000 or the new act is for both the senate. let me bring up the resolution and i really apologize commissioners were not having my notes that are prepared . >> but it is essentially doubling the available tax credit amount.

and which is you know, something that is really important particularly since we are now as we all know there have been a good deal of you know, ada lawsuits. this will substantially help businesses to be able to offset the cost of remediating the barriers . and it does but i guess one thing i failed to say is that currently if you businesses that have $1 million or less in revenue are able to take advantage of thecurrent tax credit . and that tax credit hasn't changed since 1998. that dollar amount. so this will now the businesses

to $2.5 million in revenue. you can take advantage of the tax credit. and it increases the tax credi , the total tax credit it increases the total if you have expenses up to 20,500 you can take a credit on 50percent so that's now 10,250 . you can take a tax credit on you know, $10,250 worth of expenses should you have over 10,000 so to speak. half of what that is. and then there is an additional tax deduction at 15,000. that dollar amount isnot being adjusted.

but essentially , with those two things combined, if you did have a $20,000 expenditure for over, you can combine both the tax credit and the deduction. i know i'm not explaining that too clearly. so what again, this is something that has been needed for along time . i understand tax credits are beneficial overtaxed adoptions. and so again, this is benefiting small businesses. so there now that have a revenue of 2.5 million and increasing the tax credit from 10,000. from $10,000 worth of eligible

expenses $5000 worth of tax credits to $20,500 worth of eligible expenses or 10,215 in tax credits. i'll leave it at that. so i just am not continuing to make things confusing and if we need a little bit more clarity let me know. >> i've got just fine commissioners any questions ? is there any publiccomment ? >> no one's online.>> do we have a motion? >> motion to approve this resolution for the tax credit, disabled tax credit. >> moved by commissioner adams, seconded by president laguana. [roll call vote] motion passes

unanimously . >> president: great. next itemplease . >> item 11 approval of meeting minutes >> president: any questions or amendments ? is there any public comment? >> clerk: there is no one on the line. >> president: i moved to accept theminutes . >> i will second. >> moved by president laguana, seconded by commissioner dickerson . i willcall the role . [roll call vote]

>> clerk: motion passes unanimously. >> president: next item please. >> item 12, general public comment. this is a discussion item which allows members of the public to comment on items within a small business commission's jurisdiction butnot on today's calendar and suggest new agenda items for future consideration . >> president: arethere any colors on the queue? >> clerk: we have no colors on

the queue . >> president: next item. >> clerk: directors report, update and report on the office of small business and small business assistance center, department programs policy and legislative matters and announcements regarding small business activities. this is a discussion item . >> caller: this is my last and final directors report to you. so i'm going to start off with some legislative updates items that have passed through the board of supervisors that you have heard is the waiver on the fee banners, public works code for the temporary tree occupancy for sidewalks during the holiday season . the update on the regulations forthe cannabis code .the supervisors passed requests for

creating the 10 a for the sheriff's department and then the temporary suspension of the cannabis tax. that was extended another year or so passed the board of supervisors and then the business and awning marquis. you heard that legislation a couple of monthsago . that passed and as noted today with the massage establishment zoning controls, its original legislation you heard a couple of months ago , that also passed the board of supervisors on its first reading. so all of those should accept for probably the fee waiver for the banner and for the public works and temporarysuspension , those will for 30 days after the mayor signs so most of

those will take effect in january . and then in january for you, things for you to look forward to interms of legislation is the graffiti abatement . lifting the suspension of the issuance of the certain violations and reinstating collection of certain fees and fines that will come before you andthen also , supervisor peskin is proposing additional amendments to the third-party delivery services. that will be coming before you. and then while this was referred to the commission but we are not hearing or you will not be hearing its the domestic workers access paid sick leave through the portable system that will likely be scheduled in january. that's before the commission

but has reached the committee. so other items legislatively that i also want to kind of bring to your attention policy wise attended the council merchants legislation committee meeting this morning. and so one of the key items that they talked about was the unpermitted individual spending on sidewalks. so food wise and merchandise wise. and some of this has gotten out of control because of a state legislation so we should all be reminded that we actually do have a permitting process for food vendors but they there are entities that do take advantage by doing nonregulated food

parts in the evening. when we don't have an enforcement. the key thing about the sb 946 that has affected the food vending is it does prior recruitment to respond to non-permitted vending in the public right-of-way fc 946 now prohibits that. so we don't have adequate enforcement from either public works for department of public health to deal withmonitoring as permitted food vending . so we used to have a permit called the peddlers permit that was under the police department and since sb 946 prevented any kind of permitting and enforcement by thepolice department , we currently don't have a permitting process for merchandise goods. in the public right-of-way in

the city except for the court and the court recently created its own preventing structure . for both well, the permitting structure for doing vending on the sidewalk and the courts domain. so the council of district merchants noted in many commercial districts that there's an uptick in the merchandise component of the being sold on the sidewalk and of course the frustration of the unpermitted food vendors. so i'm just bringing this to your attention because it was quite a bit of discussion something that is going to be i think important for them in the next year in 2022 to look at

these direct. i know that the supervisor is asked made mention of this and the mayor of course is very aware of that so that's also something to take a look at in the mayor's office as well. this may be something that comes before you maybe something that our office or the office of small business is askedto participate in and work on coming in 2022 . and then just to follow-up for the legacy business program alluded to it. we would have a five-year report based on opposition j on the effects of the historic preservation grants on preserving our legacy businesses. that was to have taken place during fiscal year i think

2021. and but because of the pandemic that wasn't able to take place. the controller's officeis working on it . and had hoped to have it completed by the end of this calendar year but it's taking a little more time sothat is something for you to , that you will receive probably in the first quarter of 2022. where for the third quarter of the fiscal year but just know that the controller's office is working on that five-year report that is required by proposition j. and then as i noted earlier the tax are going up. rick will be sending you pictures andupdates . there's a total of 11, rick? 17, sorry.and so they are

being all in one so i think once rick will completed you will get pictures out to you and the list ofbusinesses that where the plaques are installed . and then some updates as the mayor did announce that stephanie covina was nominated to sf mta board of directors. and she worked with their action group. i guess this is well, she is nominated. she's nominating the board of supervisors able, they are able for the sf mta board of directors either to approve or not approve the mayor's nomination to the sf mta board of directors so the mayor made that announcement and stephanie will need to go before the board of supervisors to

finalize this appointment. but i think that this is for small business needs a good appointment that the mayor has made. and then you may have already received the announcement from last week that the mayor will be introducing legislation to provide businesses with additionaltime . to do the safety and accessibilitychanges to shared spaces . as always , that extension in time to make the x testability changes does not prevent somebody from being sued or having a non-acceptableshared space . it's just is providing the time for them to be able to make those changes but as always, with the federal ada it's anytime you are doing any sort of bill or tenant improvement

in real-time, based on accessibility requirements still are in place for you to do. so i just want to make sure there isn't any confusion should it happen because there are businesses that are receiving lawsuits for noncompliant shared spaces. so that just because the city is expending that time does not mean that they are not. they're still held accountable for being noncompliant. let me know if there's any questions on that. and then for the osb business counselingservices , due to some staffing shortages which i will elaborate for you not tonight but we are going to the closing the business assistance center for in person services

until mid-february and we will still be providing it through email and phone the appointments will be made for businesses that may need extensive counseling and this was done in consultation so a consultant bothof your future director , anything that's in the surface and how best to manage the situation so we all came to the conclusion that first 60 days we will beclosing for in person services . and then i want you to be aware that i will be working with your future director katie pan. we will be spending time together to help provide as smooth a transition as possible on the operations of the operant office and so that had radically.

i'm very appreciative of both of you approving the recommendations for katie to be the next director and the mayor appointing her to be able to have the opportunity totry to make the transition as smooth as possible . and then i think you did ask the question. we do not know yet. we haven't had an affirmative. there has been some discussion about returning to in person commission meetings at least four commissioners to be in person . sometime in januarybut we haven't received an affirmative on that . kerry will as soon as that takes place or as soon as it's determined kerry will be notified but i will be training carry on how to conduct and run the commission meetings in person so we will be having a training session before my

departure. so hopefully that won't be too long from now that you will be able to convene and be able to conduct your meetings in room 400 and kerry will be trained and no pickups. there will be no pickups for you lastly i wanted to share some observations from my time in england . so interestinglyenough , they do not have as strong of a mas mandate . they do have a very good vaccination rate but not as strong of a mask mandate so very interesting to, i wore my mass. but in shopping and definitely dining, people are not walking into the businesses with a mask on. so it's interesting, but then

on the other hand the national health service makes it very easy for tests as well. so i was in birmingham in the central part of the city and they had a thing called the christmas market and there was the nhs passing out free covid tests. it's just an interesting observation in terms of how their sort of handling and managing consumer confidence and getting out and engaging the businesses and activities so i think they recently did have a significant search in the new virus. but also, there was not as many vacancies as we have here. and then one other thing that i've already mentioned to commissioner zouzounis that

when i was in london staying in an area called back mri in the southeast london and on the high street, the commercial spaces are pretty big and pretty large and they just had this very organic but we've created and their new director katie kang created the zoning definition for retail so they just have these very organic flex retail commercial spaces that you might have a little bit of produce outfront and then a phone, business and then a hair salon in theback . and i all were busy, all were active so it just kind of just sort of hit me that one, the

flex retail is something that is not being utilized. and to the degree it can and we probably could have or organic activity with multiple businessesbeing in one space . and not to be too afraid to be over having to define what spaces go together. or what types of businesses go together but like you know the flex retail does not allow for food-based businesses but or at least more like open food-based businesses so it does allow for a limited restaurants and other things but so is just a very interesting one and it was interesting to see how lively the streets and businesses work.

so you know, kind of my parting words to the board of supervisors is we really made this huge catapult with proper age and our small business recovery act . in making things more simplified and nimble and my goodness, far more simplified and nimble and being able to open the business and now the first year free that wasn't there in the economic crisis of 2009 and 2010 when the office of small business first opened. so you know, just for i reminded them that there are other factors that come into play with his mrs. feeling confident. about opening which is needing to ensure that there is enough

of a customer base that's going to becoming in and doing business with you once you open . that's sensitive customer confidence as we see the pandemic kind of goup and down . rent as it necessarily fully come downeither . so just to give things time to find marinate in a way. like business ideas to marinate and you know, the knowing that we have a far more flexible and nimble promoting structure than we did in 2009 10 and the last economic crisis and businesses we are thinking creatively. so we need to allow that time for the creation i know the first year free has a limited one year time i think we will

begin to see some very interesting businesses and business ideas coming forward but we also need to ensure that how do we build that bridge to making people feel more confident about getting out and really engaging with our businesses and being inside of our businesses, not just on the outside of our businesses. so anyway, i'll just kind of leave it atthat . and thank you. happy to take any questions. >> commissioners, any questions west and mark. >> i have a quick question. director, thank youfor all your reports tonight . for flexible retail, i got an inquiry from a gallery owner that they're having trouble staying in business and i thought what retail would be a goodoption for them to look into .

what's the best way to refer people to seeing what's feasible for flexible retail? >> i would say even though we're shortstaffed it might still be refer them to osb or they could go osb. i think the things that to think about one is that it is a youth type so it might be a change of youth if they have to gothrough to be able to allow the flex retail . and it sort of do they have an idea of other businesses that they want to share their space with because to go through that change of youth you might want to ensure that they're going to gothrough it . you do have other business ideas that but once established

and you can establish it more narrowly if i recall correctly for more expensive. and if you establish it more expensive, businesses cancome and go . if your primary kind of. so i think even for the planning department and essentially even for some of the other regulatory agencies because we haven't really utilized it and seen it it will bea learning process for all agencies . >> but planning would be the first stop to see what needs changing. >> yes. i mean, because we have it be

still have to establish the location as a flex retail location so you would have to do a change of views. >> like, there's no uses that are already in line with that. itwould be a new use every time . >> once you establish that location and again , we still need to verify that the location will still work for flex use but once it's established , i think if i recall i can't this definitively because no one's really used it and accessed it. since was put in place or to my knowledge at least through osd but i think that you could establish it was more narrow

parameters or more broad parameters and you and i can talk the talk off-line in terms of you can make it broader so once this establishes flex use then you can have if you want to bring in like a little cafi thing or coffee thing and a clothing store but then the coffee thing wants to grow and become its ownbusiness you can bring something else in . as long as it's within the allowable uses within flex retail businesses can come and go in that space without having to go back to the planning department for approved use. >> that's helpful, thank you. >> president: anyother commissioner questions or comments ? is there any public comment?

>> clerk: there is no public comment. >> president: public comment is closed. next item. >>. >> clerk: item 14, commission discussion and business, allowing commissioners to report on recent small busines activities, make announcements of interest to the community and make inquiries of staff. allows commissioners to introduce newagenda items for future consideration this is a discussion item . >> president: are there any commissioner comments or questions or new business ? vice president zouzounis . >> thank you. i attended or was invited to an event put on by sons ofblack wall street and bsf filipino chamber of commerce . i think it's so amazing that merchants are still working together like this . it is something that's directly

inline with what our racial equity committee wants to support . they're inviting each other to sit on their advisory boards for different projects and its great president and collaboration so i just wanted to give them props for that and that was the main thing i had right now. i will give more updates on our racial equity committee goals as they come but we are creating some great policies, policy goals for our commissio . >> president: very good to hear. is there anything else or was that it? okay. commissioner adams. >> thank you everybody again for your kind words. to let you know i represented the small business commission

on december 4, saturday in the sunset merchants association. they actually had this cool thing. they had members of the council of district merchants and some others. we did up holiday lighting in the neighborhood and the inner sunsetwas rocking . i was so happy. so the cities starting to come back to life and we need to support these people that's it . >> president: thank you. commissioner ortiz-cartegena. >> this saturday it was the shop on 49... [inaudible] it was amazing. it had food, cultural aspects

of the community. it was a big turnout but most of all it was a boost to the law-enforcement district court ours. it was jumping with music and people started walking around the neighborhood so i guess we want to do a shout out to quattro and marianne thompson. it was really really fun and just what we need in our commercial corridor or . >> president: i was taking my son to get his booster shot and you pulled up right across the street from me i believe. i didn't see you but it was quite a party scene. lots of loud music and i was jealous. i was saying to thekids we should be out over there . commissioner huie.

>> i wanted to share i will be hosting a workshop in the richmond district on tuesday to just kind of i guess share information about ada issues to address the ada lawsuits we've had in the neighborhood and we have few resources coming for a little panel discussion. i'm hoping that we can get a nice little model down for future workshops so we can expand some of these workshops to other groups. my hope is that we can encourage our small business community to start thinking about how to make their businesses more accessible and more welcoming to all people. so i think i'm excited to see

what kind of feedback the community members will give and what types of questions they will have and things like that. looking forward to more workshops like this and looking forward to more conversations that are really positive. and moving towards moreprogress . >> president: commissioner dickerson . >> i have the privilege, we were invited to ... can you hear me? >> president: yes sorry. i was invited as an honorary number of the san francisco chamber of commerce we were invited to their mixer thatthey had at asia sf . that was my first experience a asia sf . and we had a blast.

it was ... i'm so many. any opportunity i get to meet new businesses but i was able to meet ... it was interesting, it was like a puzzle where i'm meeting these people and next they're telling me these businesses they are vice president of these banks but they were the most genuine authentic people that i met . and then we were ableto see some of the performers. i don't know if you all have been hsf .i had a blast and we've made a lot of connections and look forward to being back with that community again but i went on to capacities as a small business owner and then representing the commission this small business commission for us so it was exciting.>> thank you. is there any other commissioner

comments or questions western mark any public comment.>> no public comment. >> i am getting some interference from catherine in thebackground . it looks so comfortable andnice . next itemplease . >> item 15, adjournment. this is an action item. >> i would like to move to adjourn. and recognition and in the appreciation of commissioner dooley, commissioner adams and director dick and tracy, thank you so much for allyour work and your dedication . >> thank you. >> i think i need asecond .

>> i believe youneed to read the closing announcements . >> don't you have to say please showthe slide first ? >> please chose slide. >> we will end with a reminder the small business commission is the official public forum to voice your opinions and concerns about policies that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco and the end of the office of small business is the best place to get answers about doingbusiness in san francisco during the local emergency. if you need assistance with small business matters continue to reach out to the office of small business . and i think we can just go straight to the rollcall. >> commissioner adams.[roll call vote]. >>.

[roll call vote] motion passes and the meeting is adjourned 6:50 4 pm. >> president: thank you everybody. >> have a great holiday.

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and the explanatory document that is filed. this item is for discussion and action and will consider adoption of a resolution to make a finding with the newly enacted that requires an order with the commission as required with the feasible brown act. commissioners, any discussion? do i hear a motion to the resolution? >> commissioner -- >> i have a quick question. and i know during the operation, the committee mentioned the possibility of remote tele conferencing past the pandemic to create a more inclusive commission process. were you able to look into access remote participation on the line? >> great question. and i have listened to it and they are still -- we have yet to receive more concrete guidance. it is being figured out, but

we're see what the new year brings, i guess. >> any other discussion or questions? commissioner sullivan, you are going off mute. >> happy to move to approve. and any public comment on this item please? i will put the instructions for public comment up on the screen for anyone joining webex and remember that public comment could be related to the item two and please remember to press star 3 in order to be added to the comment queue. if you do not press star 3, and you will not appear in the comment queue.

i am seeing no callers in the queue. all right. let's close public comment please. if there is no more discussion from commissioner, let's call the roll. [roll call] the motion passes. moving on to item three. president discussion. good evening, everyone. the commission on the environment acknowledges that we occupy the homeland of the

ramaytush ohlone people who are the original inhabitants and we recognize the ramaytush ohlone understand the interconnectedness of all things and maintain harmony with nature and we honor them for their enduring commitment to represent mother earth. the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost, or forgotten the responsibilities as care takeers of the place as well as for all people to reside in the traditional territory. we recognize we benefit from living and working on the traditional homeland. and sovereign rights of the first people to an sestors and elders of the ramaytush ohlone community. as environmentalists we recognize we must embrace indigenous knowledge and how we care for san francisco and all of its people. thank you for their attention during that important acknowledgment. we are wrapping up 2021 and hard to believe we are already here. it was another year of virtual meetings and hybrid working for

the department and once again able to conquer new territory and constantly inspired by what we are able to accomplish in the midst of the ongoing pandemic. we took important steps and i am proud of the work done at the commission. and to give the city resources to address the world's most pressing issue and voices in the climate committee that does not meet the still of the climate crisis and incredible number of activists to advocate for additional funding for the department. we knew when we took the unprecedented step of requesting additional funding and have this report behind us and the passion behind the climate movement in the city and the power to make the ask. the additional funding with the climate equity hub and there is

the first time that is a sign of the city coming with the magnitude of the crisis that is before us. i hope this is critical foundational support in the years to come. and moving ahead with the climate action plan and the department is ready to hit the ground running and city and world recover from the lost pandemic is the opportunity to prioritize and put a climate at the top of the list. is there any public comment on the president's welcome? i will share the instructions for making public comment on the screen for anyone joining webex or sfgov tv t number should be at the top of the screen. and comments related to the agenda item and three minutes to make the comment. and if you are calling in to make a comment, be sure to press star 3 in order to be added to the queue after you dial the phone number and access code. if you do not press star 3 and

not added to the call queue. and i don't see anyone in the queue but we will take a brief pause. seeing no callers in the queue. close public comment. next item please. and approval of the september 28, 2021 commission with the draft meeting minutes and this item is up for discussion and possible action. >> commissioner, any discussion of the minutes? does anyone want to move to approve the minutes from the last meeting? >> move to approve.

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i am see nothing one in the queue. >> all right. let's close public comment and move to a roll call vote please. [roll call vote] let's move to the next item. item 5, general public comment to address on the matters within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. any general public comment? all right. and the instructions back up on

the screen. and a reminder that you will have 3 minutes to comment and press star 3 in order to be added to the call queue. all right. i do see that we have one caller in the queue. and i will, give me one second to pull up the timer. give me one second.

all right. i will unmute the first caller and start the timer now. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> great. day did pilpal, good evening. i am sorry i have not been able to focus on the commission and the department that i would want to and only tuning into your meeting briefly. i have been following the m.t.a. board since 1:00 which is considering muni service restoration which is a very meaty topic they just dpot into and that will be a few more hours. i may or may not be able to come back to you tonight. generally, though, i would say as there are a number of things going on with the department of the environment and hopefully some of which the director will talk about when we get to her report and very exciting things that barb hill and michael himes

and clean power sf group is work on over sfpuc and i am a bit troubled, troubled on a lot of levels about a lot of things, but as the climate crisis seems very evident along with the covid crisis and various other things in the world, it doesn't seem to be -- it does not seem to me like the department and this commission are as -- what is a good word? central to the conversation in the city and showing as much leadership in the country and the world as we should be. and if you are not getting nearly the credit for it. and i would ask you as we end this year and look into 2022 that we find ways to increase relevance and the prominence of the department and the commission and that may be a

variety of ways i would leave that to the commission, the director, charles, and various folks to figure out how to vote. and i just leave you with that thought. we are doing exciting and important work, but for some reason i don't think it's getting out there as much. maybe it is because of the crazy things happening but somehow raising that profile would be useful. that is my thought for tonight. thanks for listening and i will try to tune back in later. >> thank you for your community. -- thank you for your comment. >> katie, you are muted. >> you think i would know. and i am not seeing any additional callers in the queue. >> all right. no more callers, let's close public comment and move to the next item please.

>> and with that we will move on to item 6, presentation of the commission on the environment and environmental service award. and this item is up for discussion. commissioner? >> thank you, katie. and good evening, everyone. and one of the reasons why she deserve this is award and i want to remind everyone first this is the seventh and final environmental service award that we will be awarding this year in

2021. this recognizes persons in our community whose work has had a truly outstanding impact on both the environment and the health of our community. during julia's 15 years, she has been invalue to believe the department and helped make ennumerable environmental initiatives get started and take root in the community. for example, all five of the hardware stores participated at the east hazardous waste collection program to allow residents to bring unwanted batteries and propane cylinders to participating stores. the program makes it far easier for residents to dispose of these items properly.

instead of driving them and folks can bring them to the nearest hardware and often reduce emissions, too. during the pandemic, hardware stores were struggling with supply chain issues and the demands of being an essential business. yet julia eagerly partnered with us last year from the safer cleaning and educating customers about the safer products during the pandemic. julia and her time are the first to jump on board to pilot new programs. one recent notable project involve testing out a new controversial to potentially reduce the risk of fires generated from lithium batteries. and with that, i am really pleased to join my colleagues in

thanking julia for the outstanding commitment to bettering the planet and to wish her the best in the future fighting for the environment and public health in pennsylvania. >> debbie, would you like to say a few words? >> i would. thank you, commissioner wall. that was a great summary of julia's talents. i would like to say when i think about you, i think about the why not k do attitude when we bring you anything. when we bring you a crazy idea, you say, how would we make that work? the examples about the is in a hardware store with the spacious aisles and lots of room, but it

is packed to the gills and really are showing how anybody can do it if there is a will. and that is what you bring is the tremendous can do, why not attitude over and over again. so honestly i have worked with you on and off for 15 years of my tenure here in the city in so many different ways and watched you grow and watched cold hardware expand. it will be sad that to watch out and environmental innovation is coming to your town. and you will make it easy and fun and so truly deserving of this award. i am incredibly grateful.

and excited that we're honoring you tonight. >> thank you, commissioner wahl. >> would you cliek to say a few words? >> can you hear me okay? >> and i want to echo -- >> look, there you are. >> awe just playing around with the background. >> i want to echo what is from that and to give you some statistics because what julia has done is massive, so through the programs and the retail site collection programs where we have partnered with the access to the material, we have collected more than 17,000 of household batteries so that is a lot of batteries and mercury use

that is a huge, huge amount. you have made a huge difference through that program and in addition to that, the other things that you have done with another wonderful example is the p.u.c. to educate and train cole harbor staff and so that they can select lest toxic pesticides. the fact that you have allowed your staff to be trained and then trained the reds rezs is huge and how long the tail of that can be and is with our friends is a wonderful surface. and last but not least, you worked with cole to assess a lot

of other problem products that we didn't partner with you on. you all collect christmas lights for recycling, cell phone, term stats and cartridges and printers. and so all of those things are really problematic for ecology as they go into the any bin. and the fact that you accept them and make it easy for people to take these back and help the environment is huge. thank you so much.

cold harbor was one of the early adopters into the green business program in 2006 and in my time i have i have worked with julia to certify the five cold harbor locations and eager and our program has a process to get businesses certified. julia would take that list to go above and beyond. and switched out products and green cleaning products and paper products and recycled waste content. and the bare minimum was never

the standard to go above and beyond. with the statement and looking at the waste end. this is pretty great. you have been a supporter of the program and each year we have a green business awards and rick the owner of cold hardware went out of the way to support our event and we were grateful and those events are a huge success and large parts and generous and delicious wine that were provided which are not attendees really made it a joyous and celebratory occasion. so thank you for everything you

are doing. really going to miss you here. >> thank you, everybody. that was one of the first assignments at cold hardware was to get our businesses certified. and i don't know how to say how other. and not have a vibrant environment like san francisco. and i know that i would talking a little bit earlier with katie and debbie and moved back to pennsylvania and is like night and day. they give out plastic bags like halloween candy and reusable bags to put my stuff? and i have a lot of work to do to be given a mission and i

can't say what a joy to work with anna and i don't know that any other city can share with san francisco. and i will miss that for sure. and telling them about recycled glass and i will have to drive to pittsburgh to take my glass. and i have a lot of work and great people to look up to call if i get a job within a field like that. and be looking out for me. and cold hardware without the environmental awareness and none of this would have been possible and he was always willing to try

and we love it that the community looks to us for guidance and is really appreciated and thank you from the bottom of my heart. i am always struck when we get the awards by the power of individuals that occasionally we give to organizations, too, and most of the people who award the individuals in the community and through that through the world because everyone looks at us and follow the things we do. when you do your work and abebly and cold hardware is a force.

>> would anyone else like to chime in? there are some other faces in the participant group here. i have for many years and that the environmental services and the approach taken to manifest in this way that makes the city a better place.

>> rick, would you like to say something? >> sure. first of all, the entire commission for complementing julia to where she might have second thoughts and move home. so maybe she'll come back. we would welcome that. i have some prepared remarks tonight, but everybody else has added that most of them started with cold harbor and julia's initiative. obviously it is not a one-person

band. even though julia has chose on the retire and move back home with her mom and family, our commit tonight the partnership with the department of environment will always go and anything we can do to improve the lives of those in the community, and we are so thankful and touched by the recognition of julia. there is not a person that i can think of that deserves it more than she does. she has been a force of nature and we miss her tremendously. and we still talk, but wish you all the luck, julia, and hope that your mom's community and

community you live in now will never be the same as a result of you living there. >> thank you, all, very much. >> katie, let's open it up to public comment. i think i see somebody with their hand raised. >> all right. i will put the instructions on the screen and switched over to the timer and the public commenter. and a reminder that congressmens should be related to the agenda item which is the environmental service award presentation. and you will have three minutes to make your comment. if you are calling in to make the comment, press star 3, otherwise you will not be added to the queue. we do have a caller in the queue. let me switch over to the timer.

all right. i will unmute the first caller now. >> can you hear me again? >> yes. great. and so i delayed my return to the mta board meeting because i is a u this item. i don't know julia personally, my loss, but i have heard of her work. i have metric carp. we have some family friends in common. and i knew his father dave carp t founder and beloved godfather of the operation who is now passed away for several years, although his spirit lives on at the main store and all the other location. not only commissioners wald and sullivan but robert haley and jarrett bloomenfield live nearby and shop there, i assume. i picked up food at bambino's across the street. and i strongly support the green

business program and hope to attend in the future men that is possible. thanks to julia and her work. thanks to the commission for honoring and recognizing her. thanks. >> thank you for your comment. >> all right. we see no other callers in the queue. >> all right. then let's close public comment. and move on to the next item. thank you so much, julia. >> all right. i am going to sign off. thank you so much. >> moving on to item 7, update on san francisco public power initiative. and the speaker is barbara with san francisco public utilities commission and the item is up for discussion. >> thank you, director stevenson. you are in store for a treat

tonight. we have barbara hale and there is probably no one human being in the city who is more emblematic of the blessing and the curse of becoming all electric. there is a lot of blessing in store because this is what we need for our climate work. and there is a lot of challenging ahead if we're going to be an all electric city. and one of those is figuring out how we get electricity from where it's generated into homes and businesses and how is pg&e doing in maintaining the infrastructure? how do we make sure that we've got a resilient grid to bring us into the future? and now barb has at her

right-hand side a really wonderful partner with dennis herrera who was working on this issue and this question about private-public ownership of the grid when he was city attorney and now as he is general manager and the two of them together have a lot in store for us. and so we thought it was time a good time, for the commission to hear what the thinking is over at the puc in terms of are we acquiring, are we not, and what does the stability of the grid look like? what is the future of all electric and grid management in our city? so with that, i will turn it over to barbara. thank you so much, barbara, for taking the time with us tonight. >> thank you. thank you, debbie, for the very kind introductory remarks. yes, it will be a challenge. and we're up for it. and what i would like to talk with you today is our public power expansion plans.

give you a bit of the history and the context public power and in san francisco. let me go ahead and begin with the first slide telling you a little bit more about what we do at the sfpuc for you and the listening public. and the san francisco puc operates three utilities and the water utility and the waste water utility and the power utilities. and the power prize responsibilities have us operating san francisco's publicly owned retail signs hetch hetchy power and the clean power sf program. together the two programs are serving 70% of the electricity consumed in san francisco today. and we do that with the work force of 235 union workers and

engineers and financial and utility analysts and line workers and electricians, technicians and own, operate, and maintain the 45,000 street lights that san francisco owns. we also fund all the costs associated with owning and operating the street lights throughout san francisco and pg&e. it is a big job as debbie mentions and that gives you the power part of the sfpuc and expanding public power and slide two please, katie. public power utilities are not for profit community owned providers. and the public power mod sell not new. we have had public power utilities for over 150 years and local communities have exercised their right to own and operate community public power utilities in the united states.

there are more than 2,000 publicly owned public utilities and operating and serving 1 of 7 electricity customers. publicly owned utilities are governed by local officials and accountable to the community and meant to reflect the decisions and values of the residents. next slide please. that gave you kind of the big context. how about california? here we have currently more than 40 publicly owned electric utility who is supply a quarter of the state's load. and sacramento and the los angeles department and lawp provides electricity to 1.5 million customers and the s the largest publicly owned utility in the united states.

this is the six largest and a big part of power in california. for example, in addition to the own hetch hetchy power, in northern california we also have the public power utilities surveying the communities of redding and the silicon valley and the port of oakland. it is a diverse selection of communities. hetch hetchy power is currently the 13th largest publicly owned utility in california and if we are successful in our expansion plans, we would be the third largest in the state of california. so let's turn to powering san francisco on slide four. we're currently in on odd situation and there are two electric utilities serving san francisco and one is publicly owned and the other is investor owned. hetch hetchy and pacific gas and electric power and through hetch hetchy power the city has been providing public power services

for over 100 years. these services include supplying and delivering power to essential services and the city provides such as san francisco international airport and public schools and hospitals and libraries and also the newer redevelopment neighborhoods like the shipyard and pier 70. hetch hetchy power and clean power sf together provide over 70% of the electric consumed in san francisco and that power that is provided is clean and green. it is basically all greenhouse gas free and a very large percentage of it is also california compliant renewable power. next slide please. both hetch hetchy power and distributing electricity and and

the city has with pg&e and where we pay pg&e for the service. and include that cost as part of hetch hetchy for clean power sf, our customers supply is distributed by pg&e and build by pg&e directly to the customer. -- and billed directly to the customer. how do cca's differ from publicly owned utilities. and the supply and delivery, and customer programs and and

regulatory and are not under the local structure and direct local grid access and grid determination and the resource deployment. to better pursue the local distribution assets. and the things that you can't see under the ground and vaults and the transforeign policiers and the line and the substations that populate our streets.

under local public ownership of the grid, the city would be able to expand the public power services to san franciscans and would be delivered through city owned power lines. with the communities that we serve and let me dive a little deeper into each of those and give you fun facts in regards to rates, the data from across the nation shows that public power paying 11% less than customers of investor-owned utilities. for the average u.s. household, that is about $15 saved a month. and there is a strong record of

safe and reliable focus due to core utility operations and one of the most common ways to measure reliability from from across the nation. and the public system average duration and measures the time each time and that are likely to be without power for less time, 62 minutes a year, compared to 150 minutes a year for customers of investor owned utilities. when it comes to local accountability and access, again, publicly owned utilities are excel. they are accountable to local boards and officials and the community directs the priorities. that is everything from setting

policies, determining program opportunities and rates. and the incentives are different from investor from the for-profit. public utilities are not accountable to share holders and don't need to worry about a return on the investments and focus on providing high level service and prioritizing the needs of the community. and direct local investment and the for-profit goes to share holders and public utilities invest back into making improvements and repair money directly invested back into san francisco and targeted investment in essential city infrastructure for the long-term success of a financially healthy and stable utility. it means achieving our climate action goals with cleaner energy. ownership of the grid can help us maximize the value of carbon free hetch hetchy power that we

already generate and achieve the aggressive climate action and and distributed in the energy resources such as solar and storage and electric vehicles. with our current arrangement with pg&e, these are all opportunities but we haven't been able to fully maximize them because the grid is owned by pg&e and our relationship with pg&e has been difficult. it's been very challenging. let's talk a little bit about the challenges turning to slide 9. for decades pg&e has obstructed infrastructure projects with negative impacts on the community. delays, unreasonable equipment requirements, demands for costly upgrades to pg&e system that benefit other customers.

for example t randall museum, a wonderful children's museum that the department of rec and park runs. it was delayed and improvements were funded by the community but connections of the event to the grid was delayed two years due to pg&e obstruction. and residents approved rec and park bond and the ba will, boa pool was delayed over a year and a half and with swim programs cancelled due to the delay. and unreasonable equipment requirements, good examples there and large primary switch gear that pg&e is requiring for smaller loads. we have also seen demands for costly and unnecessary upgrades. the sfmta substation at 6 perry

street was asked to fund improvements to benefit the other retail customers. the newest requirements that they are imposing make things even worse. if you look at slide 10, pg&e recently filed a new distribution tariff that creates further anticompetitive barriers to receiving service and unmetered load and unmetered loads are the street lights and the traffic signals, for example. that is most of them. and eliminating the ability to connect city infrastructure to pg&e grid at secondary voltage. that is impactful. many of the cities that are connected to the pg&e grid are served at exec tear voltage

improved. to serve that load. and it's just not going to be cost effective for the city. the impacts will be increasing rates to largely to general fund apartment customers. and the loss of that load to service by pg&e as a retail customer instead of hetch hetchy power customer. the impacts are quite extensive. you can see on slide 11 on this map where we're showing current projects that have faced interconnection issues caused by pg&e, you see the diversity of customers.

these are all hetch hetchy customers that have undergone renovations and this is to give you a sense of the breadth of diversity. in 2019 the mayor directed the p.u.c. and we made findings supporting acquisition of pg&e electric assets in durable and long-term cost savings to allow for timely and modernization of the grid. and funded by electric sales revenue and not reliance and the

city subsequently sent pg&e to purchase the assets. we offered $2.5 million to pg&e in september of 2019. and when they were still in bankruptcy, the most recent bankruptcy and reiterated on august 14, 2020 and the same offer pg&e rejected both of the offers claiming that the offers substantially below what they believe is the fair market value of the assets. pg&e didn't provide any analysis to support their position and instead having made that assertion and looked at the options and decided to submit a petition at the california public utilities commission. we submitted a petition asking the california p.u.c. to set a value for the assets.

>> and we have the authority as under state statute to set the value for the investor owned utility assets. and performed a third party review to give the outsider perspective on the value. it would move the conversation forward and to use this as a means to bring the parties together to share information and in a public and transparent way and is extraordinary support among the policy makers and as seen the recent mayor's press event where mayor breed and city attorney and now g.m. and commission president, our commission president, maxwell and all acknowledge that this is a priority for the city.

and slide 13 and what happens next? and the next steps will be that the california p.u.c. has directed pg&e to file a response to our petition. they have directed pg&e to appear before them on december 14 to state why the utility thinks the city the california p.u.c. wouldn't go forward with the petition in setting the value. we anticipate that this process could take 18 to 24 months but the california p.u.c. will set the schedule in the timeline for the proceeding. we will continue to outreach pg&e regarding the potential sale of the assets to san francisco and we will continue to perform analysis to make sure that analysis and stayed current

on the value. and this is a feasible move for san francisco. and slide 14 please. just a few thoughts on what you can do to help as we pursue public power expansion in expansion in san francisco. and there is lots of resources to learn more about public power and i have given you a snapshot and there is american public power association website. and you can visit the website and our own website sf power.org and most importantly is to engage with us and ask us questions. tell us what your priorities are as a commission and as a community of folks who follow the commission. we are very interested in understanding and what you like to see from san francisco and

expanded san francisco public power utility and help us spread the word. and with that i am happy to take any questions you may have. and listening for the presentation. and thank you. and thank you so much and for -- i lost my camera. and thank you so much. and for sharing with us and a couple of questions and both of them out there and as part of the purchase and we talked about the things that you can see and we can't see are understood ground and is part of the purchase to offer and billing and the second is all the weird requirements and pg&e is taking into dumping into the projects, what is the reason the rationale putting the requirements into the project. and i want to understand the system better. >> sure.

and we would expect to purchase not just the physical assets i talked about but also the technology behind it, right? and everything necessary to operate successfully, safely, reliably the system we would be purchasing. and with respect to the second question, pg&e argument is that we are a separate utility. so we need to have this type of equipment separating their system and grid they own and the grid they own from the customer. we have argued that we're not built out as a city and other cities and a publicly owned utility and separate jurisdictions. separate serviceer istories. we are immeshed.

but we have a bank certified by pg&e right next to a public health center served by us. and having that kind of equipment that you use to separate a system the size of smud from pg&e which would be appropriate and really isn't appropriate for our situation. and frankly, we proved that it is operated safely and reliably for many years by having it built out the way it is. from our perspective it is an artificial requirement and is not needed for safety or reliability. and that is what we're arguing at the federal regulatory commission in our disputes with pg&e. and i have a follow-up question to my help which is i come from a business background where acquisitions are made. so when you acquire something you are with the hardware and a

bunch of bodies and the technical know how in the form of people who are employees and absorb the knowledge and the people that are working there. and not in the same way as the kind of acquisition you are talking about. and what we would be allowed to purchase would not include the work force. would not include that intellectual property, that knowledge. we would need to staff up for that. we would need to -- we would very much want to want to be the employer of choice for those pg&e workers who work on the system and are interested in continuing to work on the system. and that is absolutely part of the objective.

any other questions? or comments? >> just two quick follow-ups for me, president. building off that last question for staffing, i am curious as our fluctuation and to pay attention to numbers in the 12 to 18 months it would take the grid itself to have staffing and expanding in to expand that we are thinking through all the little details and like president stevenson has brought up. >> yes. we would expect to prepare the growth plan. and currently preparing what we're referring to as operational readiness.

and it is not just the staffing readiness that the systems readiness as well. and to make sure that we are in a position to successfully implement this vision. and now the 18 to 24 month time frame i referred to, commissioner, is the time frame for the california p.u.c. to establish a value. that would not be the time frame to expect to take to actual consummate the transaction. that would take and be beyond the time frame. and unless pg&e were to agree during the course of that proceeding to make a sale. we would expect it to go kind of serially and not in parallel. >> and thank you for that circulation and for the december 14 hearing and for the p.u.c.

and would it be helpful to have us as commissioners reach out to the ca puc in a personal or professional capacity to encourage them to move forward with this? >> great question. i love your thinking that way. and that is probably not this hearing. this hearing is more of a technical hearing where we would expect parties of interest to prevent the views. i would encourage you to listen in for to develop your knowledge. this hearing will be presided over by an administrative law judge and not the commissioners themselves at the california p.u.c. but definitely love the question and the interest. i will put you on the list of folks to reach out to when we are ready for that.

>> thank you very much for all of your work. >> thank you, commissioner. >> are you anticipating the public education campaign on this expansion effort? and campaign and what can you tell us about and the duration and who will be involved. and happy to talk about it and the second to last slide we showed had the public power sf.org website on it. and that is part of the campaign. and we are working and our communications staff are working with debbie's communication and your communication staff and quite regularly on how to get the word out on all of the programs and initiatives including this one. it is definitely part of our

approach. we have the support of consultants for this work as well and hopefully seeing more of a presence on social media about this topic. those are all different ways that we are educating and informing and listening to the public. we have held a number of community public power events virtually, of course, in this era. but we have had some very successful meetings and we are receiving a lot of great feedback and encouragement to keep going. we are also using the board of supervisor resources and very interested in staying informed on this project. and sharing information out on their social media and district newsletter type venues to help

them with content for those newsletters. and those are some examples and it is an ongoing campaign. and i think more generally, first of all, thanks for all on your work, barb. and the very open ended environmental justice impacts that can be affected through public power at rate affordability? and maybe innovative net energy mirroring practices and what you push for at the division of public power. i think the equity and affordability issues are one of the more exciting innovations that we can implement as the public power utility with the scope that we would have serving all of san francisco.

i am very interested in being able to push beyond the rules that the state has set for eligibility, for local low income programs. and just as an example, the state sets income eligibility criteria where you look at the criteria in the san francisco context. you don't have an electric bill to pay because you are homeless at that point. and implementing the program. communities and certainly how we do our work in engaging and here we are in a local setting.

and that is not happening. and with our communities and as i said, a number of community outreach. and environmental and and looking at how we can change our programming. and the solar sf program. and to make sure that eight 10-year-old systems that we funded over the years and operate effectively for the low income households. to think about how to prioritize the undergrounding of overhead utilities.

and the property owner and for when it moves from the utility line to the house drop, right? and we have seen a lot of neighborhoods challenged with being able to -- neighbors challenged with being able to afford that as a publicly owned utility. we would be able to think through how to assist in that funding. so it is some examples for you. but it is a dialogue that you get to answer when it is a publicly owned utility. >> thank you. any other questions? >> thank you so much, barbara. that was really fascinating and you have changed the way i am thinking about saying this because you said it was an

expansion of public power and that word which i knew but didn't internalize it until you said it. of course we have public power already. we are now expanding it. that is going to change the way i talk about this, so thank you. i have two questions. one, i will build off commissioner and when i heard the equity argument against us and they are not for the people of san francisco but for the people who were remaining as pg&e customers and be in their own little world and everyone else will suffer. can you speak to what they are trying to get at from that? and how you encounter it? >> thank you. yes. i think when people talk about that, they are thinking about the bills san franciscans are paying and the contributions san

franciscans are making to pg&e's revenue needs. forgetting that if we're the owner and operator of the system, they are avoiding the cost of owning and maintaining the san francisco piece, right? so while they are thinking about the revenue being taken away and not accounting for the costs that are being taken away. san francisco is an underground system and predominantly the underground systems that tend to be more expensive to operate and maintain and certainly with san franciscans are contributing more to pg&e than they are costing pg&e.

and the math as we have been able to do wit information that is publicly available and information that was provided by the california p.u.c.'s energy division and response to a question that senator weaner asked, that information tells us that san franciscans are contributing more to pg&e's revenue needs than we are costing. they are not contributing more. so i think that -- i'm sorry. i am confused. let me say that -- let me rewind and say that again. the information that we have received says that san franciscans are not paying more than we are receiving, than we are costing pg&e. it breaks even.

and our quote, unquote leaving the system doesn't leave others holding the bag on making up a revenue shortfall. >> that makes total sense. because it is fairly even, it will not become more expensive for us to operate. and we are not getting from pg&e and -- >> right. and we have done the math to say in that feasibility work we did and we do the math to say, okay, and at these rates that pg&e has been charging, here is the cost to operate the system. here is the cost to buy the system as well. the debt service cost to add that up and we can still recover the cost under that rate trajectory. so that is why we think it makes

sense for san francisco and why we think it does not hurt others. and sf puc. and we know you are off and is $3 billion. and not that full value cost. and we are a willing buyer and they are not a willing seller.

and offered that is for the full strength and and the other options. and continues to be unwilling to negotiate. that approach and solution and we would like the free toppings and that sounds great and i will put the instructions back up on the screen for anyone who would like to call in to comment on this agenda item. and just a reminder that you will have three minutes to make

your comment and press star 3 to be added to the call queue. if do not press star 3, you will not be added to the queue. and i don't currently see any callers in the queue, but we will take a brief pause. >> let's close public comment and thank you very much for the presentation. and thank you for your interest. happy to return at any time. thank you. >> katie, let's move to the next item, please. and the update manager and this

item is up for discussion. director felt. >> wow. making and hear about how it has been shaped and the efforts that went in and the last update was in may and since that time we have been closing out our community engagement and putting our head down and working with other city departments and technical experts to distribute tomorrow.

and a more substantive look getting into the plan and to acknowledge the collaboration and from other departments and hear from three colleagues from sfmta and planning department and three colleagues that we work closely with and a small snapshot of the viewpoint and turn it over to cindy to get us started. >> thank, debbie, and good evening. and call up the presentation, please.

fantastic. and go to slide number two and this slide shows the agenda for tonight's presentation. and we have a lot to cover in a short amount of time. many of the slides i will review quickly as most of the material has been presented over the last year. and i will turn over the information on the most significant parts of the plan. next slide. tomorrow we will be releasing the climate action plan which is very exciting and this is a really important milestone for the city. and for the commissioners i don't need to preach to you about the criticalness of this plan. and must act now and the actions are critical and this is not the impact and not just because of the impacts and rising temperatures from severe storms to surging seas are already apparent and limiting future

damage requires the news for full greenhouse gases and that is what the climate action is about. that purpose of our action plan is threefold. one provides the road map and to eliminate to advance racial and social equity. and while that is no small feat, it is exciting now that we have a plan with a wide range of solutions and to be part of the international community and san francisco had committed to the paris agreement. as a wealthy, developing city, we are called upon to be leaders to combat climate change and all the impacts. next slide. >> on following slide, i will

discuss the updated climate targets which were presented to the commission with the environment code update. next slide. as i said earlier in the presentation, i will skim through the slides and this is a slide that we have seen during many of the presentations and the current sector based emissions in san francisco. as you can see, transportation is our largest source of emissions followed by buildings, and these two sectors account for 88% of the mission. followed by land form organic, municipal operations and agriculture and waste water. next slide. the scope of the sector based emissions that account for associated the consumer product and tracking them through the landfill. it doesn't capture the full length cycle of product function. the newest area of research is the consumption-based emission

and this slide depict what is the consumption based emission inventory measures and looks at the emissions for products who are out the supply chain. and last year we worked with dr. chris jones of the cool climate network to conduct the consumption based inventory. next slide. this slide shows our consumption based inventory emission and you can see for san francisco which is a huge consumer-based city and emissions are three times that of the sector base emissions. using this data has spurred new strategies and actions which will talk about later today. this has been truly ground breaking and served for miles for other cities around the united states. next slide. so this slide shows our updated

greenhouse gas reduction targets for both the sector base and consumption based targets. i won't read through them but the critical milestone is that we are targeted to have net zero emissions by 2040. next slide. next we're going to drill down and look at the sectors and goals you will need to achieve the targets. next slide. and this slide shows a different sector that are represented in our climate action plan and we're going to cover these in detail later in the presentation. but i want to highlight two new novel sections that have been added to the climate action plan. one is housing and this is the new sector and not only reflects the mayor's important priority on housing and solidifies how housing policies, climate policy and the importance of building

affordable development in san francisco. the second section is the responsible production and consumption and this is new in a sense that expands upon our zero weight goals and look up the producer and responsibility and this ties back to the consumption based inventory. next slide. each sector is associated with concrete goals and the goals displayed on the screen and i am not going to read through them. they are codified and city legislation through chapter 9 of the environment code which was passed in july of 2021. next slide. the last section i am going to present on before i turn it over to my colleagues is to give you

a sense of our guiding principles and values of the climate action plan. so first i have to discuss the climate action plan lenses and this is the part of the plan that i am most excited about and find very inspiring. to generally achieve an equitable fair and sustainable future, we must take a system-based approach to this work. the strategies and actions in the climate action plan. and the actions through the social and racial and social equity lens. and we looked to make sure that there were no unattended con consequences to make sure that our strategies and actions were trying to repair root causes of racism and also really advance

social and racial equity and with the city and county that works closely with the department of public health and this is continue to save lives and reduce costs. we know the strategies and action wills create jobs and we want to make sure as we transition to the low carbon economy that no one is left behind. lastly we looked at the strategies through the lens of resilience. we want to increase community resilience and resilience of the

infrastructure. from the next two slides, and how we use these lenses in the action plan. next slide. we have been important that the climate action team and the environmental justice team was innovative and created the racial equity assessment tool. and that tool looked at the different equities and how to push the envelope to protect vulnerable population and improve the quality of the environment for our bipoc community. next slide.

and all the amazing additional impacts of climate action and they really request reflect our past lenses and we did analysis and able to see that monetized. and eliminating the natural gas and buildings and also the elimination of vehicle solution. and the online screen is a comprehensive example to show here and this is the sample that i know many of the commissioners are familiar with on implementing and developing a fuller storage plan for the state. and this strategy on the screen shows strategy from the energy supply center and with what is the different benefits and the solar plus storage on the critical stories and with the

reduced awareness and accelerate and with the relief response time and that would really help out and in addition we see that we can create between 40,000 and 85,000 and instruction work hours for this action. and this is one of another part of the plan that is still like a really truly innovative part of climate action. next slide. the last thing that i want to leave you with before i pass it on to my colleague is that this was really a data driven plan. and this plan puts a focus on implementation that is the result of rigorous accounting analysis, data collection and modelling. so all of our different strategies and actions are tied

to production. i want to introduce the project manager and he will introduce some of the colleagues to discuss the collaboration and the climate program. and it is my honor and with the two plus areas and one of the many things that i am proud

about is i am proud to say this is a highly collaborative process and i am grateful for sever city staff person, community expert and business and stakeholder and everyone else who contributed to the effort over the last couple of years. so spend significant time on this plan. and we heard from many regional state agencies and large number of community and business stakeholders. next slide. and as you know, about a year ago, we initiate and completed a successful public engagement process which took about four months. and you can see some of the statistics here that we worked

with the engagement and staff and took the time to respond. and to reflect people's comments and desires. the responses are included. and go briefly over each of the sectors and proposed strategies in action. next slide. we heard a lot and this is a critical sector and solutions are important so the next slide

and energy supply and phasing out possible fuel and the decarbonization of the two biggest sectors and buildings and fossil fuel for energy. examples of strategies with 100% renewable electricity and with the to talk about supporting local employment and planning to get out the natural gas system entirely. building operations has goals to require emissions by 2030 and that is every year.

>> and now we need to turn to the complex challenge of natural gas from the existing buildings to make them efficient and all electricity by staff and sample strategies include tailoring different approaches for specific building types and workers and low income residents to prevent this placement from decarbonization. next responsible production and consumption sector and which is as eluded to and 0 ways to have the traditional the life cycle emissions. and next sample of strategies

include the focus kused and the reuse and repair economy and raising economy and action and with the carbon footprint and nature-based solutions and vegetation and soil to sequester emissions from the atmosphere and we can't directly eliminate and biodiversity and provides the community benefits to residents. next slide please? so with the examples and restoring parks and natural areas to pilot the use of

organics and to sequester from the atmosphere. next slide. >> so for the next two sectors i would like to invite a couple of colleagues from key partner agencies and development on the development process. and cant wanted to note there was a late change to the agenda and tim chan won't be presenting but is on hand to answer any questions. please go ahead. >> good evening. thank you, rich, and i appreciate the opportunity to co-present with you and i want to congratulate that leadership development.

i want to acknowledge the staff within sfmta and sf environment that collaborated on the development chapter. and this chapter contains a diverse array with the comprehensive action and strategies that must be implemented in close, concerted manner in order to realize our climate goals. with the actions and strategist and looking through the frames that was eluded to around economic recovery and racial and social equity and is save to say we can generate a lot of

community benefits and affordable san francisco. and as earlier graphics have eluded to and 47% of the city's overall emissions and that would be the vast majority and the transit fleet and were able to move all of our riders in a low carbon form of mobility, which is testament to how important this work is within the sfmta. to closely align with the climate and safety and equity

goals with a couple of highlights of the priority actions to be advanced to hope to realize our climate goals. with the to stop is buildout of the electric vehicles for the future of mobility. to expand the network and pedestrians and members of the senior community. and you want to strategically with the lovers and downtown pricing program to very importantly generate scarce revenue to be reinvested in important forms of ability such as transit. and this is critical to look at transportation and land use together which is why we drafted this chapter and looking at the

synergies and strategically grow housing and produce more housing and do in it a way that it aligns with our transit system sand an important thing to do together. and i appreciate everyone who has worked so closely to develop this climate action plan. and thank you so much, tim. this is a pleasure working with you and collaboration on moving forward.

katie, do you know if the slides are coming back? >> i am having an issue. >> with that, i want to call up lisa fisher from the planning department and supporter and partner through the shared projects over the years and very much the climate action plan. and lisa will walk us through the content of the housing sector and the strategies and actions. looks like it's back up. and the resilience and sustainability planning and i

wanted to share my appreciation for the entire team and leadership and smart and camaraderie and since we started three years ago and with the there is not enough and with the neighbors and want to support the return. and near transit, biking and walking and biking and with the stable and diverse community is also much more resilient to the unavoidable impacts of climate change. and through the equity and justice lenses that cindy mentioned t housing sector is focused on increasing new housing production and maximize the affordability of the housing

and rehabilitation of existing housing which is also very important to the overall footprint to support the bipoc and other community. we have been working hand in hand with planning and housing team and the general housing update process and the mayor's office of housing and disability and to best reflect the city and community's latest housing values, priorities and policies and integrate them into the climate action plan. >> next slide please. >> housing four key strategies work together to further a sufficient increase housing opportunity and the big variety of type, locations and ages both new and rehabilitate and affordability levels and throughout all of san francisco.

in american indian, black, and other communities of color have been too often excluded and the action implementation of all of our cap actions will prioritize vulnerable an underserved communities. so for these housing sector goals to and both help support and increase housing densities and lower density neighborhood. and which of course is also typically higher resources neighborhoods and cooperate to work together to decrease the cost and timing and housing construction and delivery. and that helps reduce emissions and create healthy environments.

thank you so much. >> thank you to everyone who contributes to the two chapters. and because of the comprehensive approach, we have come up with, as you heard earlier, 31 strategist and 159 supporting actions across all six sectors and are all important and health advances toward the vision. and different levels of impact are distilled down on the solution and note these are not in any particular order. and plays as a key role and this

is detailed more in the executive summary of the forthcoming action plan. and with that that concludes my portion of the presentation. thank you for your attention and going to turn it back to cindy. >> and it's been a pleasure working with you and i really call for the collaboration with the city staff and i also want to make a quick note that we have had some difficulties with the power point and the icons decided to migrate to the top of the slide, but we do have a power point pdf on the website and you can see them all in the rightful place. and if you can advance to the next slide. and although we have come together on the amazing climate

action plan and all the cooperation and work we have put into it and we still have a lot of challenges. it will require a dedicated revenue stream and resources to implement the strategist and action and tv to do it in a just way. this plan is also going to require us to change. it is going to require difficult trade-offs and we will really need the support of our department heads, commissioners,

elected officials to support staff in implementing the plan. and then with implementation we need to really keep our eye on the prize and not get distract and focus on implementation and not stray off to other objects and as we go upon implementing a plan and inspires inclusively and make sure it is not the city staff driving the policies and we are including the community in every step and that we are having community driven implementation. next slide. so this is my last slide and just highlights some of the next initiatives in the road ahead next year. and so i talked a little bit and start out on the left side of the slide and go to the right side. and we are looking at initiating a long-term funding study to

really look at the different operations that we have to have a dedicated resources for the climate action plan. and that will initiate in january and that will be really exciting to work on so we can really see this plan come to fruition. and we are also starting to initiate the development of a climate equity hub and is another exciting project where we will look at developing a one-stop shop to support residential decarbonization. also in the next year the climate team is going to look at developing the water element and addendum to the water action and to the plan and we know how important water is and we have seen the impacts of our drought over the last couple of years so that is something that we will be collaborating on with the sfpuc and last but not least, we will develop a dashboard to make sure that we can really monitor implementation over time. and in our plan which will be

released tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. on our website, you will be able to find that we have really strived to have a data driven plan that has climate metrics, equity metrics and all different ways to measure our success. and our team is going to track that very carefully over the next year to come. and with that i like to end the presentation again and i want to thank commissioners for their support and rich, my colleague, debbie, and is a big milestone and to make it to the tech launch event tomorrow and that release office. and thank you very much. >> thank you, everybody, for your presentations. this is exciting and a long time and endless hours of work and collaboration from the office and department.

and many of the questions for you, debbie, and this is the timeline on the horizon and funding and do we know when that will be complete? what is the time line around that for implementation? and so the funding to do the work is just this fiscal year. we want to have our report done by may. and in the process of getting the contract set up and nothing goes quickly. we are in the contracting process to select really the expert convener and help us with that. in the meantime, there is plenty of activity going on with different revenue streams and there are pieces of the climate action plan that have their own

champions shar going on their own funding route. and m.t.a. and all the transportation is not waiting for us to do anything. they are already looking at the revenue opportunities with housing bonds. and we have in the next six months we will have -- or less we will have our plan of options. they will be finish and in the meantime, others will be moving at their pace as well. >> it sound like that funding piece is more around elements of the totality of the plan and elements that the department will be managing. or that don't have a champion and get myopic and the world views around the way that things work in my world. and clearly somebody has to be like the c.e.o. in this.

and clearly there is an adapted apartment. is that -- how do we think about this operationally? in terms of the dashboard and will roll into and very different places that need to -- i think about things and challenges in the past with green purchasing because it's hard to get the data. and we rely on the individual departments to get the data. and where is it all held? i am assuming it shall be held by us. how does that work? that is an outstanding question and that is something that the commission can help us think through as we started going down that path. we are the hub of the wheels for all things mitigation and greenhouse gas production. and the department of the environment is hub of the wheel. and there are other hubs on resilience and adaptation and departments that are in charge of their own resources and have

their own commission. and there is a lot of wheels spinning and the mayor's office whose the champion and this is mayor breed's climate action plan. and when i meet with the mayor, i am talking to her about the climate action plan and all the ultimately it will be the mayor's office that will be the biggest director of this and so we're making sure that they are briefed and supportive and comfortable and i say comfortable because they own it. this is mayor breed's plan and she is very supportive and excited and then it's really all of our departments and my fellow department heads from planning ahead and p.u.c. and when we meet and department heads from the port and the airport, to hold ourselves up to this commitment. and cindy, would you add anything to that?

>> no, debbie, she did a great job. and i think that is our department does have precedence for collecting data on an annual basis and and a great example of the greenhouse gas inventory that we do collect data from a lot of departments and operationally and successfully create the inventory each year. and so that is really a model for us to build off of of data collection and dashboard and making sure that we are monitoring implementation. so there is one other force and that is the board of supervisors who is curious about that question who owns this and drives it and how we make sure it is funded and of course, the public and a great question president stevenson and i think we will be exploring how the

structure is most effective and we are not a many-headed beast and all going in the same direction. and after learning when it was and the last several years and the difference between source based and consumption based emissions and is so incredible to see that we are building it all around consumption and building this with that in mind. and i think that is certainly something that people who are in the thick of it are thinking about all the time and when you hear about people talking about the sort of steps they are taking and they are not necessarily city ace cross the world are not thinking along those lines and is impressive that is how we're making the program go together. and any questions or comments, commissioners? i have to get to the grid system to see everybody. >> commissioner sullivan?

>> thank you. >> thank you, president stevenson. >> i want to ask a question about the transportation sector because with noted in the presentation and 47% of the total emissions. and i think that is a question for tim. i was glad to hear you comment on the need and infrastructure in the city. and i know we have done some things in our commission around garages and improving access to structure in garages around town. and what can we doak sesz to that kind of benefit to improve the number of public charging around the city like a number of other cities have done. is there anything that you think will be in the action plan or the road map around that type of thing?

>> thank you very much for this question. it is a great question and it is definitely something we are actively collaborating with colleagues within sfe on a couple of times a week if not a couple of times a day. and i can give you a brief recap of what we are doing around our program and there is obviously sfe has led the charge on this work program and with legislation that typically lays the framework and sets the bar for building out infrastructure in privately held parking garages, m.t.a. and already has a small network in the off street parking facilities and we just close the solicitation process and formal rfp process and actively going through those and select a number of vendors to rapidly expand in our off street parking facilities and

hoping our private sector partners can do. and that being said sfe along with m.t.a. and we partner quite closely with sfpuc on this and did develop the road map and happy to come back and talk about the progress on implementing the road map. and we have also recognized that if we use the off-street parking facilities and leaves a gap in the public network and those who need it the most. and to that we have partnered with c40 and have done and just wrapping up the public survey and what is it that they need from the charging infrastructure site and what is the role of the city? and i have to say a new business model for the public sector and we don't historically fuel the

transportation sector. and i think we know that it is really important for us if we hope to decarbonize quickly thatted we play a role in that business model and to send that and with the public right-of-way that is a public resource and it is a complicated curve that is already under a lot of demand as the mobility sector transforms with lyft and uber and we are doing it strategically.

we are looking at it deeper than ever and i can actually probably give you an update next week to wait on the email to see if they are interested in partners with consultants that can do more of a feasibility study about it. this is something that is an area that we are closely analyzing and where the state and federal policy. >> thank you. appreciate the update. >> all right. any other comments or questions? to open that up to public comment please.

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i am eric brooks and coordinate the local gasz roots and clean energy coalition and californians for choice. to create as much local jobs as possible with front line help with better air quality, etc. and important on transportation

and land use. and we need to stop the uber-lyft problem that is logging the city with emissions and get them all back on transit and the best way to do that is to let everyone ride free no matter what the income is like social security and medicare. and that makes them invested in making the system better. we need to switch the ownership of the land to land trust community ownership and co-op ownership and stop the land and rental properties from being

owned by big hedge funds and billionaires in new york city and silicon valley. they are not interested in our city. we need as a city and community to that are my three points and and thank you for the hard work that have gone into this today and looking forward to it play out and tomorrow night's event.

this this i item is up for discussion. >> this will be very quick. it is a long meeting and a lot ahead of us. this is from the last meeting and the climate action plan and

the this is the city of san francisco event starting at 5:00 tomorrow. and it is at 5:00, not 5:30. i will check on that and i believe it's 5:00 tomorrow. and it is going to be a lot of fun. i am excited about it and some of us got to get trained on how to do a ted talk and that was nerve racking and exciting and you will see the outcome of those. and so lots of good things this year. and finishing i think in a crescendo. i want to end the remarks by giving a call out in particular to two commissioners. i want to say that commissioner ohn, congratulations on your

telephone and clean energy hall of fame. the social media is lighting up with that and that kind of recognition for the work that you do. to bring the benefit of clean energy to everyone. and so to the commissioner who is not here and recently appointed to be the small business administration and i can't think of a bet person in that role and to talk to me about it and to have this business and to have this

strength of it that peeks in detail about the director's report and what is going on and that is probably enough for tonight. any discussion or comment, commissioners? for anyone who would like to call in with a comment and press star 3 to be added to q and you will not be added to the call queue. we will take a brief pause.

with no callers in the queue. to go to item 10 and commissioner sullivan? the next policy meeting which was scheduled for december 13 is cancelled and is scheduled for

january 24, 2022. and last met on november 10 and the presentation on the learnings from residential food waste market research and with the climate action fran united league and a senior and justice coordinator. with the department on the record retention policy. with public comment. so with the instructions to

press star three if you are dialling in on the to take another quick pause. not seeing any callers in the queue. >> public comment is now closed. next item, please. >> all right. moving on to item 11. announcements and this item is up for discussion. >> i have an announcement of what is unfortunately katie's lass commission meeting with us and is moving on to new pursuit. we will miss her.

and so grateful for the help to manage the presentations and she made her presence known to us with the most substantive commission meetings that we have had and have and that the commission on the environment was able to keep going. so thank you very much. and commissioners and debbie, do you have any other comments? >> i would like to add that -- i'm sorry. go ahead, commissioner wahl.

>> i want to say ditto for me. you have been really, really terrific to work with and you have made huge improvements and whoever it is that gets to fill your shoes will have a hard act to follow and just lastly i know you will be a great success in what you go to next. >> thank you. ed >> it is bittersweet when somebody wonderful decides to leave because i am happy for her, but i am selfishly not happy for her and the thing that makes me excited is where she is going and i will let her speak

for herself, but i think that this is a so that you are leaving a firm believer in the public government and can maybe come back one day. >> is it okay? >> thank you. and thank you, all. i just want to say how grateful i am to all of you and even though we only had virtual meetings and i haven't met any of you in person yet, i felt a strong connection to the commission and the department and the work we do. i am so proud to live and work

in a city that is really taking charge and leading in the the space stations that matter most to me and this is a monumental last meetings and thank you and it's been wonderful and just a note about where i am going, so i am actually going to be joining auto desk and just be down at the other end of market street by the perry building. to join a commission meeting as an in-person resident and i have one other unrelated

announcement. >> i just wanted to mention that the event tomorrow starts at 5:30. i wanted to put that out there. >> all right. now we can open it up to public comment. >> all right. let me put the instructions for making public comment up on the screen and you will have three minutes to make a public comment. we will take a quick pause. i am not seeing any callers in the queue.

so the next meeting. >> it is february 7 and i think we heard from commissioner sullivan, the january 10 and february 14 which is valentine's day. i got a queue from someone and throwing that out there. this is a new year and we are beginning to think about the agenda items for next year and are closing this year with a momentous loss of the launch of the mayor's climate action plan. we have a couple of upcoming plan at the with the operations

and commission with the annual report and then to the full commission. and those are the main agenda items with the upcoming meetings. >> commissioner, any comments? to call in to comment on future business and to press star three and your name will not be added to the queue. you will have to be ahhed to the

comment. i am not seeing any callers in the queue. >> let's close public comment. let's move to the next item. moving on to matters pertaining to the subsequent section to call in and press star 3 if you are calling in to be added to the comment queue and you will have three minutes to make your comment.

i am not seeing any callers in the queue. >> a let's close public comment and move to the next item please. >> moving on to item 14, vote on whether to hold close session to evaluate the performance of the director. sf admin code and 10b and this item is up for action. >> commissioner, is there any discussion about this item? the we get a motion to move to closed session to hold the evaluation of director? can i have a second? we have a motion and a second.

do we have to open this to public comment again? i think we do before we vote. so we have previously not and to hold public comment with this call vote. and we will take a roll call vote. the motion passes. next item please. the next item is item 15, closed

session and public performance plan and appraisal report. and in that case i am going to go into practice session and will reconvene. commissioner, do i hear a motion to disclose discussions held in the closed session or not disclose discussions? >> i will make a motion not to disclose the content. >> do i have a second? aawe commissioner wahl second. and we have to open to public comment. and open up to public comment. and great. and i will put the instructions up on the screen for anyone who would like to call in to make a public comment on this action item. and please remember to press star 3 to be added to the queue

and you will have three minutes to make your comment. and i do see that we have the caller in the queue and with the few instructions sent to the camera. so to go to the and i will unmute the caller now. >> too much technology. and i actually don't think i have a comment on the motion to disclose or not disclose. but i will have a comment on item 16 assuming that is the next thing. i will stay tuned. thanks.

there we go. >> let's close public comment and move to public. >> president stevenson. >> aye. >> vice president ahn. >> thank you. >> aye. great. commissioner hunter. >> aye. >> commissioner sullivan. >> aye. >> a commissioner wald. >> aye. >> and commissioner is excused. >> the motion passes. next item please. >> moving on to item 16, vote on whether to make a recommendation to the department of human resources to increase the compensation of the executive director and this item is for discussion and action. >> all right, commissioners. do i hear a motion to increase the compensation of the director?

>> move to approve. >> i'll second. >> commissioner seconded. who did the motion? >> is there any public comment on this item. >> let me put the instructions back on the screen and remember to press star 3 to be added to the queue the three minutes to make your comment. let me switch screens. to unmute the caller. >> and david pillpal again.

i don't presume to know the discussion in closed session and the discussion is as follows. i am not clear where the legal authority is to set the department head security and aware that the director is an 0962 department head two which has three different salary ranges, range a, b, and c. and i don't know where he is in salary range or at what step within those ranges. further, there was a change in the brown act recently that i believe requires public

disclosure of the changes to the compensation and benefits and you may have disclosure obligations in the brown act on that. so i am looking for a little legal understanding and i don't see a deputy city attorney on the call right now. at a minimum, i think you should clarify what the recommendation is to dhr if they have the authority to change the salary in terms of where it is now and where you would propose it to be and finally whether there are sufficient funds in the department's current budget to accommodate that and what the affect would be in future years when annualized and when it would take effect. i have the questions about the

legal authority here. i think in absence of the city attorney on the meeting, we will have to have the questions to us at a later date. is there any discussion on this item? i'm sorry we haven't closed public comment. is there anyone else in the queue for public comment? >> no additional caller. any discussion on the item? >> all right. let's move to a roll call vote please. n. roll call vote] there we go.

thank you, everyone. moving on to the next item. and item 17 adjournment and the time is 8:38 p.m. thank you for joining us. awe thank you, everybody, for the long, long meeting and the good insight and conversation and we will misyou a lot, katie. >> bye, everybody. >> thank you, all.

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