>> clerk: and this is the regular meeting of the building inspection commission. i would like to remind everyone to please mute yourself if you're not speaking. the first item on the agenda is roll call. [roll call] >> clerk: we have a quorum. and also just want today a -- wanted to announce for members of the public that are calling in, the call-in number is

415-655-0001. the access code is 2480-694-0379. to comment on a specific item on the agenda, press star, three when prompted by the meeting moderator. the next item is item 2, findings to allow teleconferenced meetings under california government code section 54953-e. the commission will discuss and possibly adopt a resolution setting forth findings required under assembly bill 361 that would allow the b.i.c. to hold meetings remotely according to the modified brown act teleconferencing set forth in a.b. 361. are there any members in favor? okay. we'll continue meeting remotely. next item is 3, president's

announcements. >> good morning, everybody. i'd like to welcome everybody to the building inspection meeting of february 16, 2022. i would like to start off by announcing that after ten-plus years, this will be my last meeting as member of the building inspection commission. it has been a wonderful journey, and i feel so privileged to have had the opportunity to serve our city. serving on a commission is an honor for everyone, but for me, it has a deeper meaning. years back, i arrived in san francisco as a 21-year-old immigrant from ireland. i had nothing but the clothes on my back and the strong hands to go to work. fortunately, i got a job in construction and built my life here in the city of san francisco. in building one's community and

serving others are the hallmarks of our irish culture and central to my life as a san franciscan. over the years, i have been blessed to give back to the city that has given me, my family an extraordinary opportunity. i am extremely grateful to everyone who has served with me, and thank you for the continued service that you are doing: i take pride in serving the role model and helping others, people who, like myself, struggle with severe dyslexia or other learning differences or did not grad

college or those who have had not a place to sleep on their first night in this great city. like hundreds of thousands of my fellow san franciscans, i have been one of those people who have faced each of those challenges. it's difficult climbing up the ladder of success with no economic strongholds. so i want to remind each of us [indiscernible] a college degree is one type of success among many, that homelessness is not simply having a house to sleep in. we live in a land of opportunity and it is incumbent on us to find ways to help people ascend the economic ladder regardless of the challenges they face working in

construction -- face. working in construction is one of those facts, and san francisco remains a welcoming space for immigrants, one that does not matter if you can read or where you sleep. what matters is your tools, your commitment, and your willingness to work hard. our many communities in san francisco today [indiscernible] sure that the building opportunity continues to provide opportunities for everyone was one of the reasons why i originally joined the building inspection commission. though there is more work to do, i'm extremely proud of the work that we've done over the years. some more these like the work

that we did in 2009, at the start of the recession, and helped save many jobs here at d.b.i. one that particularly resonates with me is that the department managed to stay open during covid, and particularly during that period, the extraordinary staff that had such a commitment that i don't think you'd find in any other city, so i'm extremely proud of the leadership and the rank-and-file for getting us through to where we are today. lastly, i'm proud of the reform measures put in place the last two years. i urge on going commission to continue to monitor these programs and interpretations. changes that were easy, but i'm

confident that the industry and the department staff will embrace the change for the better of the overall department approval process. in closing, commissioners, thank you for serving with me and for the work we've done together so far. i'm leaving the building inspection commission today, but i love the city too much to sit on the sidelines for long, and i trust you to continue the work we started together. i think it's fairly fitting, extremely fitting, that my last meeting as a commissioner is a meeting with president mccarthy. he's going to need all his skills as he leads this department through a period of transition and improvement.

he's also going to need particularly your patience, particularly your support, and mostly your perspective. change is hard, but i have every faith in pat, his team, and his ability to help him see it through. i look forward to seeing all your [indiscernible] in the future, fellow commissioners. it has been my privilege, and in my old language of gaelic -- [speaking native language] -- madam secretary, that is my last president's announcements. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. director o'riordan, did you have some comments? >> yes. thank you, president mccarthy,

and thank you to you all. first of all, i want to say thank you, to you, angus. we certainly appreciate you for your commitment to the industry, and i would be remiss if i didn't thank you for your years of service on the commission. i'm especially grateful for the advice you've given me the last two years. when the mayor tasked me with the position of interim director, it wasn't something that i was expecting to happen, and i was a little bit unsure of all it is that i needed to do, but i told the mayor and

president mccarthy that i would do everything i could do to make this department better. after watching everything that we were challenged with in this department, i was confident that i could help the department, and i commenced to do it immediately. his response was good. go do it, and the department will support you all the way. so i stayed true to my word, and i can't express what a positive effect this had on the department and our work. thank you for that, angus, and also, thank you for also speaking up for the working people, the heart and soul of the building industry. like angus, many at d.b.i. started their careers working in the trades and understanding the challenges facing the men and women who work in construction. angus has always spoken up for

the workers in our industry, the people who made their living with their hands. the people who work in every kind of weather, under every kind of pressure and deadline. it's up to us now to continue the work that he started, and together, we'll make sure that all voices have a place in our deliberations. on behalf of the building industry, the construction trades, and all of us at d.b.i., thank you for your service, angus. we really appreciate what you've done over your many years on the commission. in addition, i'd like to say a big thank you to commissioner sam moss on his last day here, too. he has always been a thoughtful advocate for remaining barriers to housing construction by making the most -- making sure the most vulnerable populations

are protected. sam's questions are always smart, his suggestions were always on point, and his support for our reform efforts were always unwaivering. thank you for your support. we're sure you'll have a long and brilliant career ahead of you, and i look forward to seeing what you're going to do next. now i want to turn it over to sonya for a few words. thank you again. [please stand by]

. . . . >> a commissioner tam, if you would like to say a few words and great being on the building inspection and i am certainly going to follow along and i am

proud of the work that we have done. and good luck in the future and see each other in the trenches as we say in our industry, right? madam secretary, we will go to the next item which is general public comment. and my apologies, i was remiss in the land acknowledgment. >> commissioner tam, would you have that on you? >> an i do. i most certainly do. >> thank you. so organized. >> the building commission

acknowledges that we are on the unceded homeland of ramaytush ohlone. a z the indigenous stewards, the ramaytush ohlone have never contractionedede lost, or forgotten the responsibilities as the care takeers of the place. as well as for all people who is reside in their traditional territory. as guests we recognize we benefit from living and working on the traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the elders of the ramaytush ohlone community and affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. thank you. next item is item 4, general public comment. we will take comment on items that are not part of the agenda. >> there is no public comment. >> an i believe we just called that. i think we're good, madam

secretary. >> did we do general public? did we call that already? >> a may have. it's okay. to go to five. >> did you want to say something first? >> a please go ahead. >> an election of bic president and vice president. and we will need to open for public comment before the item begins. >> stlr no hands raised. awe -- there are no hands raised. >> okay. president mccarthy, if you would like to proceed. >> thank you, madam secretary. this one is something we're getting good at after the practice at the first meeting. i will give my election first up. i would recommend for president

commissioner bito and vice president commissioner tam. i am willing two individual votes are taken as a group, but let's throw out what to have this to speak to commissioner tam, please. and commissioner tam, remember, you can vote for yourself and i know you are not used to doing that, but you are allowed to vote for yourself on these issues. go ahead, mr. tam. >> u a we can take a vote -- no, we're not voting around now and i will go around to get everybody's opinion on the nomination. >> i appreciate the nomination. i would like to hear what the other commissioners have to say before speaking. >> commissioner alexander-tut. >> a yes, i believe there should

be a continuation of the balance that we have at the time adhered to between the board of supervisors and the appointees, but i think there should be a balance between the community and the professional representatives on the board. i believe that the leadership team that will not see questions as adversary and include the process to be focused on the good of the department. to that i would like to put forward for vice president commissioner eppler. >> thank you. that would be vice president for commissioner eppler and for president?

>> a commissioner some sommer. >> thank you, commissioner alexander-tut. >> and vice president eppler please. >> a my apologist. commissioner sommer for presidency and eppler for vice president. and commissioner bito, so you have been nominated as president and commissioner tam as vice president. and you can make your own nominations as well. >> i have no further

. . . . [roll call vote] . madam secretary, the next question. the next one is for vice president.

commissioner eppler? no. >> commissioner moss? >> yes. [roll call] commissioner tam.

>> no. >> let me see. the vote is 4-3. but with you're saying no, do you not want to accept that? it is your decision.

>> an i appreciate the nomination and happy to serve. i will gladly accept. thank you. >> then the motion carries 4-3. congratulations. >> congratulations to both of you. looking forward to working with you.

and madam secretary, commissioner bito will be chairing. and so the next item is item 6. public employee appointment. director of the department building inspection. and the building inspection commission appointed as director of the department of building inspection on on january 21, 2022. commissioner bito, mccarthy,

sommer and tam voted in favor. and alexander-tut, and moss voted against the motion. i just had a brief item to read. and quite a bit of background, can the building inspection commission retained a recruiter and the recruiter advised and recruit for qualified applicants and the bic conducted four rounds of interviews with candidates and the motion to appoint patrick o' riordan as director with 4-3 vote. and mr. oriordan accepted the appointment. and he became a director.

this is a chance for commissioners to add any comments they would like to include. >> any commissioner? >> should i -- i think now that i am -- i presume that i should take the lead in the discussion, madam secretary. >> sure, yes. >> what i would like to do is start off with in the order that we are used to resuming around the commission and start up with vice president tam and go on that. >> thank you, madam chair. congratulations, director o' jriordan. thank you for your commit tonight the department. i think it shows and what resonates is that you always said that you want a department that people working there can be proud of. and so you have my support and the other commissioners' support in moving forward in making this

position. >> commissioner alexander-tut? >> an obviously my vote is public but i want to extend my deep congratulations to you, director, and i do believe you are a good and ethical person and formed a strong team and i look forward to working with you and i have been looking forward to good things in the department.

we had discussed a timeline for the process, and i don't think that is a violation of the rules. is that something that we can do or not do? does anybody know? anyway, i want to put it out there to the new president if that is possible and something i am interested in working on to let folks know what the full process was without revealing anything that we can't reveal if that is something mentioned. congratulations. and looking forward to this work. thank you, commissioner tut. appreciate it. >> city attorney kapla, do we have to have review on that? on commissioner tut's comments?

>> deputy city attorney rob kapla, we had a brief description of the process by secretary harris, but that can be written down and subject to review and certainly something that can be published from the dbi website. >> thank you. commissioner mccarthy. >> thank you. and i need some grace for this hour. >> you will be great. congratulations, once again. so pat, obviously you knew i was a yes vote and to kind of to commissioner tut's point earlier, it was a very long process and to complement the two finalist candidates which you were one.

and he had two super talented people for the job. and it was just down to certain feelings about what was best for the department next and when you see a no vote, that vote is what would have been a yes vote and easier, too, if we didn't have such strong candidates. well done and so this is the right man with massive challenges ahead of you. what i am banking on, pat, is that you are understanding that and the challenging from the budget and getting this city rolling with permits and larger projects because we need that revenue. and i think you understand that massive job that is ahead of you here. just after coming out of covid and managing through covid, i have no doubt in my mind that

you will get us there. good luck, pat. you are the right man for the job. and everyone i talked to in both the industry and outside the industry who have followed this whole process at this particular time for you to lead the department. thank you. >> thank you. i guess it is now commissioner mccarthy, for your kind words. and your support. i appreciate your help over the past couple of years. again, thank you. >> thank you, commissioner mccarthy. commissioner moss. >> is commissioner moss with us? >> sorry. my computer went out. sorry about that. i'm back. and i am here now. >> do you have any comments about item number 6?

>> commissioner sommer. no, i'm sorry. i think i skipped over commissioner eppler. i am still trying to get the order here. >> that is perfectly all right. thank you, president bito. >> congratulations, director o'riordan. i think that i stepped into this process after it had been initiated and i commend the department on putting together a recruiter and recruitment package that gave us qualified candidates, yourself included. and the direction of the votes i think was not wildly tangential in terms of what the expectations for the department were but a few matters of degrees. and i have confidence that you'll be able to engage in the reforms that are necessary and i look forward to working with you to implement the reforms to insure the effect of fair and

safe administration of the county building codes. thank you so much, commissioner eppler. appreciate your words. >> commissioner sommer. >> congratulations, director o'riordan. i would say this process was a challenging process for us as a commission. and i think the outcome is favorable and i really look forward to working with you and congratulations again. >> thank you, commissioner sommer. >> i want to congratulate director o'riordan and we went through a fairly long deliberation and that was with a lot of deliberations and thought and consideration and to with the appointment and the post presents still the work that i

think you started a few years ago. and a small opportunity to thank commissioner mccarthy for his views of service. my experience and discussions and meetings i have had with commissioner mccarthy which i am getting used to seeing. and you have always expressed care and concern about the city of san francisco and especially for the department of building inspection. thank you very much for your years of service. awe madam secretary, do we need to take public comment on this? >> yes. we will take public comment on all items. is there any public comment on

agenda item 6? >> there is no hands raised. >> great, thank you. are we okay to go on with the items as listed, president bito? >> yes. >> okay. >> i think that when we start approaching maybe 11:00 or a little after 11:00 we will discuss about moving items perhaps to the next commission meeting in march if that is possible. if commissioners are okay with that. >> thank you. the next item is item 7. and discussion and possible action to appoint commissioners to serve on the litigation subcommittee. there are currently an opening so the existing members where commissioners mccarthy,

alexander-tut and commissioner tam and commissioner mccarthy will no longer be serving so that's a vacancy. and it is up to the commissioners if they would like to still put their names forward, commissioners alexander-tut and other commissioners can put their names forward. >> considering that we have an available seat which is we need to open this up to nominations and i'll present myself as somebody that is interested in joining this committee so i am nominating myself for that. and i would like to take this around to my other fellow commissioners. commissioner tam? and i would be happy to serve.

and commissioner eppler would be great with the background and the tech background. and i would like to hear what other commissioners have to say and to the course. and i think i went out of order. and i should have from that time on this particular committee. and i think you are right. and i think it goes yourself and -- may i ask a clarifying question? and it could be either way. if you are interested in continuing to serve, you should nominate yourself. and then also you can to

continue to put myself. i would like to continue to serve on this committee. >> thank you, commissioner bito. i would be interested in serving on this and from that commissioner mccarthy and thank you, madam president. and i think you have been honored to commissioner tut's

point and i would be in favor of that. and i would like to see commissioner and is very relevant and important that that voice is there. and commissioner tam from that right now. and as far as madam secretary, can i just verify, we have a president in that seat, too, as well, right? >> there is no president. just someone kind of is chair, but no official president. >> i remember commissioner walker pretty much led that over the years with the outstanding job there, but i am obviously

open for discussion. >> i support commissioner mccarthy. we can keep going. >> i hope i am not out of order on this, and commissioner sommer. >> commissioner mccarthy. and you are right. madam secretary, do we make a motion -- we vote on the first one? >> and do it in looking at the -- it's all inclusive if we do a motion to nominate commissioner

alexander-tut, bito, and eppler. so to do a second and a roll call vote. >> madam chair. >> and commissioner eppler, commissioner tut, and madam chair yourself. >> there is a second. >> second. >> so there is a motion i will commissioner tam and second by commissioner mccarthy. and i will go do a roll call vote on the item. [roll call]

the motion carries unanimously and congratulations. >> the next item is item 8 and discussion and possible action to appoint commissioners to serve on the nominations subcommittee. the current commissioners are commissioner bito, commissioner tam, and commissioner moss.

so there is another vacancy and commissioner moss won't be continuing to serve. we can do the process similar to the previous one. >> madam secretary, to the fellow commissioner, i would like to give up that seat as well with the president post, and litigation and the client services, i think i have plenty on my plate. and to open up the second seat on that as well. >> thank you so much. but can i ask a question of the city attorney? and i want to know if we attend the meeting tomorrow. because the meeting tomorrow is -- we can go ahead and vote for

the new members, but deputy city attorney kapla, can i ask a question? >> that is a good point. >> can we have it -- have an effective date? and in the future. and commissioner bito is no longer interested in serving and she and commissioner tam are currently on the committee and we have a meeting scheduled tomorrow. so that would work and considering that the new commissioner would not be prepared for the meeting, and you can make that effective for after the commission meeting tomorrow. >> thanks so much. sorry, commissioner bito. it just popped into my head. >> thank you for that. and think a lot further ahead than i do at this point.

>> vice president tam had a question. >> madam chair, i know we have -- i think commissioner moss' replacement and would it be a good idea to postpone nominating this in case she may want to serve on this as well? and seeing that everybody is on the committee and that she may want to serve on. maybe we postpone this nomination and selecting the committee. >> vice chair tam, i totally agree. i think that one of the things that commissioner mccarthy also -- he nominated me last year for this and it's a good subcommittee for a new person to join. i would concur and say we

postpone nominating this until the next bit. >> i can make that motion. >> yes. >> commissioner tut, i motion to table this item until the march meeting. >> second. >> shall we go around for a vote. >> i will do that part. [roll call vote]

# # i am impressed in your interest in dbi operations and striking the balance between oversight and efficient sis. this is something we are obviously working through and is at the heart of our new customer service focus. i am really confident that we

can be good partners with both you and vice president tam and the entire commission as a matter of fact. and in regards to another appointment, i want to thank you, president bito, and members of the building inspection commission. i am honored by this appointment and humbled by your confidence in my work and the new direction i have set at dbi. and i know you had several strong candidates and i appreciate the thoughtfulness of the process. and also i want to thank our staff at dbi for the commitment and professionalism with the past two years and you have my respect and appreciation. and regarding my agenda, i make one commitment to you today. just one. and my commitment to you today is that i will use my time as director to make dbi better for our customers, our staff, and

the city. that is the focus in the entirety. and we will center the work with the accountability and transparency and efficiency. and with highlight on great customer service. and we will hold ourselves accountable and i will hold myself accountable and please hold me accountable. and we will embrace transparency so that the public understands what we do. how we make decisions and to help us -- to help us be accountable to our own standards. we will develop an efficient -- we will develop efficient ways of doing business by having consistent policies and procedures, measures operations and cultivating a culture of continuous learning and improvements. we will provide excellent customer service to all and this

means more staff training, more work on the website and rethinking of how we interact with our website and customers. we will got threat this overnight but certainly are waiting. this is too -- we aren't waiting. this is too important. late they are morning updates on reforms and inspections and the audit will be presented to you. and feel free to offer your suggestions and we are off to a good start here and we are going to keep moving forward in that direction. force thank you again for the opportunity and i want to recognize the staff at dbi and thank them for their service during the past two years. thank you, all, appreciate your support. thank you, president bito, vice president tam, and commissioners.

>> thank you. >> madam secretary -- >> thank you. >> we are looking forward to collaborating with you as a commission and looking forward to collaborating and partnering with you. >> thank you, director o'riordan. i have read the item and we are currently on item number 9. >> this is jeff. can you give me the ability to share my screen? i will be doing the slides for joe duffy.

>> and good morning, commissioners and deputy director joe duffy for inspection services. and i am hear to prevent the mandatory retrofit program and in 2013 that mandated the retrofitting of soft story buildings and wood frame buildings of three or more stories and two stories over a basement or garage. and contain five or more residential dwelling unit where is the permit to construct was applied for prior to january 4, 1978. and where the building is not seismically strengthened. and 4,592 buildings that met this criteria and from the program. and in order to process that 4,493 buildings in the city, the

ordinance created the building types. and it is important to note at this point on tier four and the board of supervisors did offer an extension to the covid pandemic which was very much appreciated by tenants and on the next slide. and of the 4,493 buildings subject to the program, 8 # a% are in compliance and regulations. and 74 buildings are not in compliance. i will come back to those in a moment. and because we want to highlight to date and 4,140 of the buildings have completed the required buildings and have received the certificate of final completion.

528 permits have been issued but not completed. these properties are either under construction or have the necessary permits from the city to begin the construction. the next slide shows a level of compliance by the tiers. as you can see the overwhelming projects are to a lesser extent tier four. and the tier three and tier four properties were really the ones most impacted by the covid pandemic. and that was due to the fact that it was obviously a lot of tenants and landlords wanted to hold off on the work as well. and was essential and nonessential in the health provisions and the health order and impacted over the past two

years. we did the dbi enforcement process and took that all into account and we held off on the enforcement in 2020, but it was restarted last year in 2021. and we have moved our director's hearings online and ever since that has had a significant impact on the enforcement activities. and the next slide, geoff. the total enforcement -- the code enforcement department has been busy with the pandemic's impact. as a reminder t code enforcement process typically starts with the complaint to inspect the code violation and issue a notice of violation through the

achieved compliance. if the violation is not corrected, we may issue a second nov and if we cannot achieve clines, and we need to hold the director's hearing. and that goes on the properties and put the lien on the property and is severe at that point. that can that recorded from the date of the property. and criteria for prioritizing the enforcement actions and number one will be projects that pretty much planned for at all. and number two with the no inspection history and number three with the application and

under the permit process. and number four is the projects that have expired and over 12 months ago and maybe special inspections and were not submitted to the dbi. the code enforcement division's goal is for all cases that have an active n.o.v. and from the hearing process and through the art of compliance to work into getting compliance as soon as possible because the fines build up and we don't want to be fining owners anymore than we have to. i am happy to answer your questions regarding this presentation. thank you.

>> thank you for the presentation, deputy director duffy. do we need to take this to public comment, secretary? >> yes. is there any public comment on this item? >> there is one hand raised. >> you have to make me the host. >> i am trying to do that. just one moment.

it is not working. okay. thank you. caller, you are unmuted. >> thank you very much. and i see there are some changes in leadership and this is good for the city and county of san francisco. this issue about retrofitting, mandatory soft story buildings is one that is very important. we cannot take the risk of having the big one and not completing our work in time. i see that some interim measures have been taken but 15% is a big

amount even though 85% has been in compliance. and so we should move forward rapidly but with standards. and this should be a reporting system that quarterly taxpayers can review this very important factor. we have all types of landmark buildings and we had to address the situation at hand with standards. you have new leadership and san franciscans can always stand shoulder to shoulder to do a

good job. i want to congratulate the new leadership and stand tall and do the right thing. >> are there any other callers? >> there are no other callers. >> commissioners, we can circle around, vice president tam. and thank you, president bito and thank you, deputy director for the presentation. and it is a huge hurdle to overcome 4,492 retrofits in the

beginning and now down to 15% which is 754. you mention that there was 528 that were permitted. is that 528 of the 754 that are permitted right now? >> expecting to get the retrofit? >> commissioner tam, give me one second. i will check that slide again. so yes, that would be correct. >> got it. >> and with regards to this remaining and not a mathematician but with remaining 200-some odd numbers of the units and what is being done with those? you are not able to reach ownership? how are they being dealt with? >> they are out of compliance and haven't responded to notices of violation and the enforcement process and we will bring that as far as we can to the dbi to the order of abatement and may

involve the litigation committee, but that is hard to see those at that point. we continue to work with building owners to encourage them to get the permits and get the work done. and we want to push through that as much as we can. and to have the order of abatement on the property and impacts and most owners in my experience have been responsive to that stage and that is why we don't seen as much going to the litigation committee. and it is hard to get 100% on everything. >> thank you for attempting that. just speaking out loud, hopefully i am assuming you guys are working with local communities and local organizations to try -- and there could be a language barrier and maybe some have responded and just something to work with local organizations with the language barrier, and

that is a really good suggestion. i appreciate that and i will definitely take that under consideration. we have bilingual staff at dbi obviously and the novs are in three languages and we are happy to speak to anybody about this and get them if they are interested. i do appreciate your comments from the community groups. and that is something to add with the soft story and one that we do need that to go into groups and try to get community help with that. >> thank so much. >> commissioner tut, you are on mute, commissioner tut. >> all right, thank you.

>> i wanted to build on vice president tam and kind of where he was going. so what kind of communication is happening to the owners that are -- what are they receiving in order to know that it is back on. and this is the timeline and to do and have we had communication or what is your vision for how we will contact the owners and work through them and what is the timeline on that. >> thank you for that. that is a really good question. as i did say in the presentation, we held off on the enforcement and for obvious reasons. and buildings that are not in compliance would be posted with the placard on the front of the building to let people know that the building is part of the soft story program and this is what they need to do. and the owners followed by a notice of violation and second

notice of violation and a hearing date for the director's hearing. and there is also with the building inspector's name and the phone number and email and whatever they want to contact us and obviously need to come in and see us. and that is the outreach that we do. that is similar to what we do. so some people and with the contractor and some of the things they are dealing with. and the soft story can come together. that had the soft story permit and you didn't want to do all that and take some of that and

move something around because you are coming in later for the adu. those are reasons why and we are sympathetic to everyone if they are showing that they want to get into compliance over time, we will work with them. >> thank you. and this is from a different line, but sometimes the city will have a place to refer to the technical assistance and with what is from the community group that refer them to? >> the plan is ran by our building inspector who is off this week, so i am not aware of anything, but the ordinance was passed by board of supervisors

in 2013. so there may be something else from the agency. i don't have that answer specifically, but i can look into that with our staff and respond to that later, if that is okay. >> i think you are thinking of exactly what i was thinking. i am wondering more in the city family, do we have some kind of resource like that that if this is an issue for someone, we can reroute them and the things like community or technical kind of walk through with the language and what is culturally appropriate to have other barriers that we can provide. >> i will say that we have been over the past two years and we have been -- i just want to -- the tenants in the building. [please stand by]

if it's a slide that goes into our monthly report, if there is just we've completely updated this datawe can see . we have 754. i think that'sthe universe we are concerned about right now . i see it in 4 different groups. you guys are the expert about the places where permits have

been issued and where permits have been issuedand the work is completed and they're now out of not being in compliance . there's the order of abatement and then the new order of abatements so if we can see how we're taking this 754 and how progress stood the system it will give us confidence that we're doing the work of making these buildings a lovable public space and will allow us in the department to be able to figure outwhat's going on with these other structures that are not in retrofit . are they necessary to provide a different assistance as commissioners have suggested might be possible. i would like to see the days, it doesn't have to be unaccompanied recently with any sort of presentation. it's just something we should understand what's going on >> we can do quarterly updates

on the numbers as they go down. i did see the agenda for directors hearings for the end of this month and there are a number of them that i believe the last hearing of the month it's going to be dedicated to soft stories to permit the directors hearings. we can definitely keep oureyes on the numbers and report back to the building inspection commission . obviously we'relooking for that number to go down and the next quarter we should see more . i know we pay particular attention to that csv because there's a lot of detail on them, good information but we can definitely start to analyze that data and report to you one thing to your question commissioner , in the ordinance

there was a pass-through on rent from the landlords. i don't have all that line language in front of me but there were specific pass-throughs for the building owners. i know that helped a little bit with getting this work funded and stufflike that. >> that's all for me .i appreciated. >> commissioner sommer. >> i think my questions were covered by others, thank you so much. >> i just have some comments. i'm sorry, commissionermoss . >> no questions, go ahead. >> my apologiescommissioner moss .my only question just for clarification is described what tier 3 is again. >> give me one second.

>> that's where i believe 754 of the complianceor the majority of them reside . >> the tears were based on the type of construction on various types of buildings. the compliance tier 3 was september five september 15, 2017 and then the completion of thework was september 15, 2019 . i think i mentioned it depended on the type of construction and the age of the building. i do not have that information

specific in thispresentation but i can get that for you . we didn't go into as much detail on that. i don't know what qualifies them or the tears but i'm happy to get that for you going forward. >> i think as a commission we would appreciate what those tears mean and my other fellow commissioners comments about the timeline. as we emerge on the pandemic we will start to see how those numbers would trendespecially in a tier 3 so understanding what that tier 3 means .i presume there's a deadline but whatare the numbers telling you in each quarter where those numbers are going ?>> we can do that.>> that might be another presentation next time. >> and just bear in mind the ratio of cheese building

inspector is an expert on the program . it's the one that is our point person on this one. and apologies for not having thedescription of the different types of tears . we can easily do that in our next. >> commissioner, i can help with the tiering question. tier 1 was for any building containing a residential care facility . tier 2 was for any building that contain 60 or more dwelling units. so tier 3 was essentially any building that didn't fall within any of the other tears. tier 4 was a building containing ground-floor commercial uses or any building that was mapped for factions up so tier 3 was a catchall for

everything else that wasn't mentioned in tier 1, 2 or 4. >> if that could be highlighted in yourpowerpoint , because i think what was confusing and the presentation was you talked about the four different stages of people run the application process and associated that with a graphic that really wasn't representative of that. that's a good clarification and also to some degree i'm trying to capture some of thethings i heard from my fellow commissioners. any of my fellow commissioners want to add to my comments , please speak up . >>commissioner. >> could we have this , i definitely love the idea of having this kind of streamlined in the future in a way that we can hopefully get a report before i digested.

kind of paired questions as opposed to clarifying questions. and but could we have this attached to the minute so that we could all get an anyone in the public if they want to go back to that also. able to do that, to attach presentations as part of the supporting documents? >> before the meeting or after the meeting? >> i'm asking for theseones after . but in the future, if it's possible i'd like to see if we can get them before. or atleast a summary . >> if i could comment president. commissioner alexander, when the slides are available in

advance i do post them on the website and even after the meeting once i get them they are added tothe website reporting documents . so they would not be attached to theminutes but they would be posted on the website . on our dbi following the meeting. but i do understand yourrequest . >> i didn't know about that. >> so to that point, secretary if we could on the slide jeff buckley asked them to include thedefinitions of the tier, that would be helpful . >> thank you, i would follow to that. >> not a problem. >> thank you. >> any other commissioner comments? if not we will go to the next item. >> i have none.

>> as a reminder for members of the public that are listening to the meeting, the call in number is 415-655-0001 and access code is 2480 694 3749. pressá3 to be recognized by the meetingmoderator . your agenda item 10, blackrock. did you need presenter duties, deputy director? >> this one is speaking but

he's muted. >> if you could unmute yourself, deputy director. okay, looks like ... can you hear us? looks like iheard your audio for a minute . okay, say something again. >> i'm so sorry about that. okay. good morning president beto, this is director of services at

dbi. i'm here to talk about the backlog. these are the projects submitted for you, not at the counter,there taken and reviewed by staff .okay, so first the backlog is defined at the time period the initial submission of that project to win the plan review starts on that project. you see the current definition of backlog and dbi is standard or level of service is between 4 to 6 weeks. the projects don't appear on the backlog report until the time or threshold is reached and that's important as we look at thegraph going forward .

so our current backlog today this week is at 177. our goal is to meet acceptable service levels and industry-standard currently is what dbi currently has a 46 week return on the work that we get. so as of now, we have a 48 percent reduction in january 2022 and over the course of this last year we've reduced that backlog down by 52 percent. so if you take a look at the graph here, it shows the reduction of thatbacklog . the red line here is that backlog and the blue line above

is our total number of projects. as isaid before , it only reaches its threshold coming onto the backlog report in 4 to 6 weeks. all these other projects that are above having been in that threshold yet. so what's going to happen is we're going to refine our definition and measures for income in the plan review. as i stated the backlog report is show that time between the initial submittal and the time the review started. however, the industry standard again and the way we look at it here in dbi is to measure the

time between a submit the project and the time they get the permit back so the difference is the actual time of review at the time of review could take you know, a day, a couple ofdays or weeks . it's important that we share a true response for the customers for initial time of submittal at the time theyget it back . and then also as we move forward, we're looking to increase accuracy of what is in our pipeline. it's basically the measure of the work that we have to do. so this is going to be, it's going to eventually include the amount of work that's resubmittedto us, come back with our current backlog report it doesn't show the volume of

resubmittal that we get . it's justthat initial plan review . so if i go back to this , the blue line here shows the total amount of projects in our pipeline. however that still doesn't show the amount of projects that are resubmitted to us and that take the plan checkers time away from checking new initial projects. so we're going to add that to our work space and then reporting that out from an accurate gauge of our work. the other thing is we also are going to quantify the work not in terms of projects, not in terms of numbers. we're going to quantify what's going forward in the number of hours associated with the work in our pipeline. that hasn't started yet but the plan is to assign estimated hours and the work so that we can more accurately estimate the amount of resources we have

and the time we have to spend. and with that, president, my report. >> thank you deputy director. this is something i really have a great deal of interest in and that plays out to a lot of things we've been talking about at the commission and also ties into some of theinitiatives that we begin with the subcommittee services . i have a question for director riordan later my sense about this is that to look at these things in isolation they all piled together with our discussions about theturnaround

times , level of efficiency. that's my first blush but i love to take this. should we go to public comment first or go around? >> we will do public comment first, thank you is there any public comment on this item ? >> there isone hand raise . >>. >> color10415467, you are unmuted . >> caller: i've been following the deliberations of the department of public inspection and you have another name to call. in the good old days when joe donahue and i would attend your

meetings, times have changed. as i said earlier in mycomments . but we need today, the year 2022 is transparency and accountability. you should know the department of building inspection and knowing the san francisco planning department and knowing some shenanigans that are going behind the scenes with permitting that that has tostop . because it has adversely impacted everything including construction. but there is our dark cloud on our city which further, we

cannot shedlight because of this pandemic . and you keep on saying the pandemic slowsdown things . it should not. because we can do things faste . if we have a digital platform. if we have a good digital platform, you can have real accountability and transparency in real time. this is very easyin today's world . so we should stop putting too many categories. keep things simple and put timelines on how many, one good suggestion that came out that i heard was thehours . you don't really know who's

doingwhat . as i said earlier, we have good leadership now. we can move faster. >> thank you for your comments color. thank you. are there any othercallers ? thank you. president beto. >> i'd like to defer to my advice president tam. >> thank you president beto for putting thattogether . i know you've been able to get us into this digital era and my question is when do you anticipate, i don't know implementation of what you described their .

>> commissioner. thank you for that. it's well underway. we are looking at reencoding some of these importance. we work in parallelwith the ones we have right now . they're at work and ready for prime time. i have circulated memos to staff letting them know about this change and the anticipation of restructuring our internal framework. and then we've also initiated a couple of internal changes as well to at least prepare for things. i would reasonably anticipate the another maybe three months to give me a low cushion. and it will likely happen before then.i just want to

make sure we have enough time. >> i'm forward to that. the other thing too is i think the stakeholdersinvolvement and feedback . i'm sure the team, if they're part of the inputs as far as the data systems because they're the ones that will operate this and have that discussion. i'm sure what kind offeedback you gathering right now ? >> it's understandably mixed. dbi has a tradition of doing things a certain way and with this change in leadership and my coming on board obviously there's a little hesitation there but for the most part people can see thebenefits of this . and also the efficiency that would result in its overall. we haven't broadcasted work

communicated it directly to customers yet. again, until we get our process refined and ready for that publication. >> you so much for the great work. >> i think we skipped a commissioner. >> i'm sorry, commissioner tut. >> that's okay. all right. >> first day on the job. >>. >> thank you for your presentation. my understanding is just to go what you said. i would expect the cost improvements to be in the next three months, is that correct ? >> yes, that's our estimate.

>> that sounds great. >> tell me how long you think we're going to have that long. we always have some kind of cost ready backlog. we trying to bring reduce our backlog to like what would be a manageable backlog?what do you thinkis , what do you think is a realistic expectation for the department guarding our backlog? are we reducingit, keeping it at , is there talk about in two years where will we be and what is our visionaround that ? >> that's anexcellent question commissioner tut . it's advisable to hold the backlog. it's best practices, of the staff and service levels that

dbi or any building department has or is trying toachieve . if you don't have a backlog, the public perception that the true is you havestaff maybe not working all the time . which would lend to such that we are overstaffed. so we dbi managed staff for resources so we maintain a certain amount and that is als typically injure industry-standard .then the other thing that some departments do is if we set to lower that backlog is have the contingency of external contracting services on standby to handle those peaks that you

see on the graph right there. it has its positives and negatives. in public perception it'smostly negative . you don't have trade individuals that note the san francisco code. it's different. i would say we will always have a backlog. we will try to keep it to a point where it is meant service levels. currently is not above those service levels and indicative of the hundred 77 points. >> i don't know if the commissioner already clarified but when something is in the 14

6 timeperiod where calling it the backlog and how do we refer to it when it's under 4 weeks ? i want to get my terms straight here. if somebody's 2 to3 weeks it doesn't angela backlog so what is the term we use ? >> quite honestly you're right on point. it is still part of our backlog because if wedidn't have a backlog , virtually the same time you submitted within a couple of days or so, it would be assigned and renewed as soon as it came in. so we the difference between the redline and blue line that you saw is what you're asking about their . those are projects that are within the expected level of service or expected turnaround and we tried to aspire to. and as we get this thing more

manageable, the redline and blue line shouldrally . they should be in between. >> i have no further questions. i'd appreciate it. >> thank you for indulging me. as i tried to collect my spots. thank you deputy director for that information. i'm very happy to see that we're considering looking at this level whole service interaction instead of looking at just when thingsare started , when their completed i think this is going to be very valuable information so i appreciate that. i'm sure curious how will we set what that standard of service is . the measurements were going to go with is from submission to

return to customer because we got off 4 to 6 week window on the start of the review process and a 40 6 week window on the review process and that gives us an eight to 12 week window you have that on average. but what does that look like in termsof what the service needs ? >> thank you for that.that's that's the complication of managing resources versus the actual work that comes in. typically, the second item you talk about an actual time of review should be relatively small compared to the time it takes to get the line but again it depends on the project. currently we just lump projects

into a project and then it doesn't matter whether it's in addition for a high-rise building. so what we're doing in this space to something that president btl has initiated in the client services committee, where categorizing these projects into various degrees of difficulty. if you can imagine there's something coming in that would take a couple of hours and there's some things that will take weeks so we're breaking up these work screens and then pulling from each of these works screens so they have a small project should not be part behind a very large project or several very large projects for any individual plan. they should all be uniformly distributed so that our resource and our checkers can pull from the.

>> you're onmute deputy director . >> i'm sorry, how long have i been talking. >> just a few seconds. >> everybody should anticipate this work being assigned to the various work screens. equally so that no project is waiting unreasonably because they are behind larger projects or they been assigned to a plan checker and may have an unreasonable amountof vacation time . vacation plan, that kind of stuff. so we're looking at making efficiencies throughout the process so there shouldn't be

that much of a toll time. a lot of the backlog we had should be as i said earlier should be the type that is from the middle to the time the applicant gets back . >> and with that in mind since right now it seems like we've lumped together all our projects into a single project and we look at a backlog will it make sense after this new process is implemented to perhaps report out responses on some sort of bands of different types of projects so we can see how small projects aregoing versus large projects ? >> yes and president bito initiated that conversation. it just happened dbi was thinking about it the last couple of months . >> then i guess my last question is there's always kind

of a dislocation when you go from one method of measurement to another one. after we get the implementation it would be nice to see not take but demonstrate how the data are currently measuring, how that ties into and works into the new data and our understanding of where they are. we can readjust our metrics and move forward to make sure all these relationships. >> absolutely. that's exactly what we're planning to do. we are going to be running to the old reports as well as any reportscurrently ,introduce it to the commission , introduce it to the public and do a conover. >> thank you very much for tha . no further questions.

>> no further questions, thank you. >> thank you for your presentation, that was helpful. i have a couple of questions that fall into what the other questioners were saying. i think the term backlog is at the crux of what we're talking about. as i appreciate your explanation backlog is good. we're happy to have a backlog. i think we understand that president be and i we did the same thing in our practice . the issue from a public perception perspective is that you say backlog and it sounds like it's unreasonable. there's a reasonable period of time it takes to do these jobs, to review projects. that isnot the problem. so it's a little , i don't know what to do about that but sort of defining what the term means and not what people should

expect. and when they should be displeased with that or not is theexpectation to me, sort of clarifying that . i don't want to get in necessarily, i'd think i might have just not gathered it. to me, the crux of it is almost needing an aged accounting report or something like that is not how long it takes to start it and how long it takes people to get through, it's how long should the process and i know this is a complicated question to answer with lots of variables and there are other things going back to this plan themselves. if i take response to your billing comment, i don't get my permit . but i may. but i think at least to me when i hear in my role in my regular job is i don't hear people

talking about many times that things go smoothly. we hear the times where people are waiting and why are they taking so long, what is happening west and mark i submitted this longtime ago . to me it sounds like that was captured in what you just told us or i know there are people sharing that information or presenting that. i wonder if that's something we can discuss when we start to address and mentioned the 177 number. i'm not sure how that relates to what i'm talking about but just wanted to see if you had any comments regardingthe . >> thank you commissioner sommer. your comments are veryintuitive . obviously different experiences. that is as you say commissioner, we stayed in the same thing to me earlier.

based on wanting to know a good idea of this project isthat their manufactured . we wonder how much time is spent with the design professional and or how competent that design professional is in their responses.and we're doing a couple of things. we're setting expectations right out of the gate. we are studying the screeners for these entities and these processes. if we take these projects so that we make sure that the quality of the work coming in is relatively high. we have all the documentation, we are putting a lot of effort into reviewing things that aren't there. so that's number one. we're also making sure that we share our plan check comments with the public so that they know there's no secret about

what we'relooking for . it's these documents behind the vote which everyone should know. and it's also these other things that in particular to san francisco, making sure that people, we're going to publish and first create and publish those comments . those standard comments. and then lastly, we're going to change our response. the draft of after the second review. we submitted, we review it. we turn it back to the design professional and we review the provisions. if it gets to the point that we have more questions in the second revision or a significant amount of unanswered comments we will have that dialogue with the

design professional . what we're currently diverting in our understanding that's not currently done . it's our responsibility to reach out in the language to the applicant and find out why haven't we had a full response the second time? because quite frankly there are responses that go on multiple times and that should not be the norm . those are just three of the things that can address some of these overall project type questions. how long the project will take to get to the process and how we are trying to manage that. >> i have may be a silly

question. it's if someone feels their permit istaking more time , if they have a call with what's happening with their process , is there, what is the best option for them to pursue to sort that out? is it picking up the phone and calling theirchecker . >> it really is. it's a excuse to talk with that plan checker. if they feel that it's taking too long. with the director or riordan change in strategy as far as his direction to me it's also been to set expectations among staff about returning because that's the one thing that may be problematic. i understand that we're going to change, there's going to be other changes that essentially

don't give somebody but for the person they talk to the day they submit the plan. it is unreasonable to burden any individual plan checker from the day they get the plans and again, assigned different plans to have somebody calling constantly where am i at, how long are we going to get to you so what were going to do is relieve that burden from the plans from the beginning and only until they are assigned within a week or two they actually are doing the work do they have someone that'sgoing to directly call . there should be an expectation for the plan checker to return the call within a certain amount of time say 28 to 48 hours and if that doesn't happen eventually ends up on their desk. >> i appreciateyour perspective .

much of my work with the commission is for schools and they do not the process is perfect but they implement some things i think that's where yo schedule your appointments and set the trends at that time . you can assign someone and they do just things that may or may not be something you talk about or would be a good fit for san francisco. i appreciate that perspective and bringing that to this group in terms of ideas from elsewhere. >> thank you commissioner sommer and thank you deputy director pereira. i'd just like to react to some of the comments from my fellow

commissioners and one is commissioner sommer took the words out of my mouth . the cases are termed backlogs like you think it's a bad word but the backlog in mybusiness as well as commissioner sommer is a good thing . it means you have a revenue stream that you're working on so that's one aspect that is not looked at and in the budget that we had last month it's something you can continuously track and monitor throughout the year. that's one issue. i think 4to 6 weeks , that time that it gives back the question is what is that customer getting? are they getting something that's incomplete ?that's one of the priorities that the customer that submitting a set of plans woulddo that . it would get as part of their information and if their application is deemed complete and whatever other comments

that the city provides them. the third comment i wanted to make isthat i think like you said earlier , this ties to a lot of other things that we are pursuing in another subcommittee but i think it's also part of the partnership or collaboration that we talked about earlier. with you and director over riordan and perhaps i would like to suggest as part of his directives update that this is not just a standalone issue. this is part of our monthly dialogue that we look at and it puts more like, it puts more context and content in the update when we talk about major projects or minor projects, there's just a little more information. thisshouldn't be one little agenda item . it should be the crux of what we're talking about and what dvi functions on operationally. the last thing i'd like to talk about and i'll get back on those codes.

not everything that, that's a pretty complicated set of documents you have behind you . and the work that we do as an architect, even as an applicant is even challenged more than a designer is that every project we do is different. even if you work in the same project type, we have a slight difference, clients difference, the program is different . so we don't process the project the same way every time even if you're looking at a different project site. i totally agree that part of your process should be looking at the applicants documents to see, to understand that they present a complete substantive middle and understanding that a lot of the back and forth between dvi and its applicants and the community are also

getting them on some of those challenges they'redealing with that is not always black and white . so that's just one.i think there was one other thing. but that was thelast. i hope that was helpful . deputy director. >> it was, thankyou . you muted your self. >> we took public comment on this? >> we did. >> we did. >> before we move on to the next item, should i just make a suggestion to my fellow commissioners because i have a hard stop at 12:00 if we could move item number 13 and 14 and given the fact that we have a new commissioner coming on i think it has to deal with the

update on the internal audits. i thought that having the new commissioners do that might be helpful, might be worthwhile but i'dcertainly leave it up to you . my president tam can take my place when i have to leave a little bit beforethen . >> madam chair. >> i would be okay with moving thosetwo items . the new commissionersshould be on . >> so could we make a motion to goahead ? >> i agree with the sentiment would also like to request the documents and slideshow were a summary advance so that we can kind of look at that when we are more prepared. there's just so much out there onthese planning projects.

that would be , i presume if that's here already that can be part ofthe supporting documents . i would move to table that request. >> i second that motion. >> there's a motion by commissioner alexander tut and a second by president bito. [roll call vote] we will be continuing into item 13 and 14. or i'm sorry, is there time for public comment? these items will be continued through the morning meeting if there are any in attendance that want to those items you can do your public comment. >> there is a hand raised. they took it down.

>> okay. go ahead and continue. >> president: commissioner tut did you have a comment ? >> there might have been comment, it's okay. >> i believe we're moving on to the next agendaitem , directors report. >> we are on item 11, directors report. directors update. >> good morning, i think it is still morning president bito and commissioners. i'm here to provide you with an update on major projects. major projects include projects for evaluation of more than $5 million and the report speaks

to the change injanuary over december ,information those for those file projects . there was a minimal decrease in the evaluation of the file issued projects of .31 percent which represents $3 million. there was a minimal decrease of .52 percent in the amount that came online in january over december so again, these are small changes so if you have any questions. >> thank you and director or riordan just confirming, no additional comments for 11 a. did you have anyupdates ? if there was no update, i believe you gave your

presentation maybeearlier . iq. we are on 211 c, finances. >> before you is the january 2022 financial report including revenues and expenditures for the seven months year that's july 2021 to january 2022. we remain on the same path that we've been on for the past fiscalyear. revenues are continuing to outpace our budget which is good news . based on our seven months of collection we are predicting we will collect $7 million as opposed to the budget of 50 million . so that's the good news. the news that we've been sharing for a while now is that there are implements but these

numbers still remain to be very low compared to prior years. this is better than the budget and it's better than last year's, the whole year of the pandemic. if we want to go back to where we last collected about under $60 million, we have 2013. revenues are improving from the all-time low but they still remain very low compared. part of the improvement is we're hearing some improvements in ourmajor permit plan . electrical employment permits but we also in the past month or so had code enforcement revenues . on the expenditure side we have savings. this is just an estimate of thosesavings . our big-ticket item for the departments, we're projecting

to spend the entire amount but this is not going to be thecase . we don't have enough information projected on what we have so right now based on these preliminary projections were going to be about $10 million better than what what we budgeted and we're using lessfund balance this year . citywide we normally do a six-month so in march we will be the nine-month report and all departments, not just dvi are looking at very closely at soon we will have a full nine-month to adjust theseneeds upwards a little . i'm happy to answer any questions. >> the next item then is an update on the recently acted

registration. >> jeff buckley here to do the update. you should have received the updatein your packet on friday . i wanted to highlight three items of note. the first is that the supervisor melgar has called for a hearing on the electric vehicle fleet to determine when the city should be expecting to have that fleet the all electric at the current rate. what the departments projections are for the next four years toward electrifying their fleet and also the status of the departments charging station . she has made thisrequest on numerous departmentsincluding our own .we have an update for that item . the hearing which was referred to onan oversight committee , the supervisors tentatively scheduled a hearing for that item or march 3 . second of three updates is

supervisor chan, the primary author of the charter amendment that splits the power to make appointments to a bodies between the mayor and board of supervisorssubject to mayoral appointments . this included the building inspectioncommission . there were numerous changes within this proposed charter amendment including changes to the way the city administrator woulduse city programs and services . the update is that this proposed charter amendment was tabled at the februarysound rules committee hearing .and so that charter amendment would not go forward. lastly the charter amendment that was specifically to amend the charter to revise the composition and method of appointments formembers of the building inspection commission . that proposed charteramendment was her at the rules committee february 7 .

it was noted out as a committee report to the board of supervisors and the board submitted that charter amendment to the department of elections yesterday at the full board meeting so that item will appear onthe june ballot . and i'm here toanswer any questions you may have . >> iq, next item is item e, update oncode enforcement . >> joe duffy, deputy director inspection services. to run through numbers for the month of january forinspection services inspection division carried out 4338 inspections . numbing was 2407. inspections division carried out 2532inspections , that totaled 9200 for our inspection divisions but are positive

inspection division performed 699 inspections and 33 cases were sent for directors hearings . we issued 126 violations within our housing inspectionservices. code enforcement division sent the cases forward for directors hearing .we performed 193 code enforcement inspections for that month. we're available for any questions,thank you . >> yes, commissioners vice president tam. >> i think i asked in a previous hearing about the omicron, wanted to follow up with the sro's on how the tenants there are doing and

what's been going on with that. do you think we can get that report in for the upcoming hearing or do we know anything about that ? >> for we continue on i'dlike to pass the baton to you because i got to leave . >> thankyou and congratulations >> thank youeverybody, see you at the next meeting . sorry i have to go . >> goodbye. >> sorry commissioner tam. that's not part of the report specifically but we can add it if you would be interested in a number of inspections that we performed on a monthly basis on sro's. a lot of the inspections. [inaudible] but if you're looking for some of the retaining numbers i'm sure we can add those to the monthly updates for you. i'll take a note of that. >> i appreciate that. just at the beginning i was

able to forward the sro with the inspectors. i just wanted to follow up. >> completely understand, thank you. >> are there any public comments on agenda item 11 a through e? >> there is onehand raised . you have the hostduty . >> color 10415, you are unmute . >> commissioners, basically as the director of environmental justice i like to look at quality of life issues. i watched the department of

building inspection because i created the infrastructure group and maintenance and technical support group at the presidio. so that counts into quality of life issues. so one of you commissioners brought out the issue of the sro's. we have to look deeply into that situation because it adversely impacts too many people and we really need to get rid of the sro's. that type of living, concrete living especially in a pandemic has taken a toll and that's part of your mission as building inspection, to have the people, to help the people.

not to look the other way even though it's connected to the department that usethe sro's . there's room for very little money and then build build the federal government forlarge amounts . having said that, one of the issues many of us are facing is dipping with the pg and e with primary connections and secondary connections and department of building inspection has to play a role with that . each one of you should be able to do a needs assessmentthat your , you all contribution to what is happeningin our city . and what, work with the other people so the customer is put into place whereeverything is user-friendly . >> color, can you please wrapup

your comments? >> thank you very much. >> thank you. any other colors? thank you. item 12 is commissioner questions and matters . 12 a, increase in staff. commissioners may take inquiriesregarding various documents, policies, practices and procedures which are of interest to thecommission . >> i'll go down the line here. commissioner alexander tut . >> i had a question to director about what this timeline is for the fee study and the fee schedule.

>> powers madison, deputy director department of building inspection. the timeline would be that we issue. the first thing we would have to do is the fee study. >>. [please stand by]

>> clerk: at this time, the commission may discuss and take

action to set the date of a special meeting and/or determine those items that could be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission. okay. any future items by commissioners? okay. >> i think we have vacancies on the client services subcommittee, so nominations for the client services subcommittee? >> clerk: oh, right. >> okay. so that was one, and then, another item that i'd like to see an item for march or item is -- technically, we're reviewing things that we as a commission are committed to to make sure we're staying on

track. >> clerk: thank you. and i'll follow up with you on that. okay. so is there any public comment on items 12-a and b? >> operator: there are no hands raised. >> clerk: thank you. then item 13 and 14 were continued, so we're onto agenda item 15. review and approval of the minutes of the special meeting of january 5, 2022. and i did have one correction that was submitted that -- on the draft, we just have to change the word to special. so this is for the january 5 and january 7 meeting. they were special meetings, not regular meetings, so prior to posting the minutes, so the wording will be corrected to reflect special meeting. were there any other comments on the january 5 minutes?

>> i'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes. >> clerk: okay. is there a second? >> second. >> clerk: so there's a motion and a second to approve the minutes, and i'll include that correction. are all commissioners in favor? any opposed? any -- and also, any public comment on the minutes? okay. seeing none, the minutes are approved. okay. the next item is item 16, review and approval of the minutes of the special meeting of january 7, 2022. >> motion to approve minutes. >> second. >> clerk: okay. there's a motion and a second, and as previously mentioned, this motion will include corrections that i've mentioned. is there any public comment on the january 7 minutes? >> operator: there is none. >> clerk: okay. are all commissioners in favor?

any opposed? thank you. those minutes are approved. and item 17 is review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of january 19, 2022. >> motion to approve. >> second. >> clerk: there's a motion and a second. any public comment? >> operator: there's none. >> clerk: okay. all commissioners in favor? any opposed? thank you. they're approval. our last item is item 18, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> clerk: okay. there is a motion and a second. are all commissioners in favor? we are now adjourned, and it's 12:09 p.m. okay. thanks. thanks, again, commissioner moss. okay. bye-bye.

>> i personally love the mega jobs. i think they're a lot of fun. i like being part of a build that is bigger than myself and outlast me and make a mark on a landscape or industry. ♪♪♪ we do a lot of the big sexy jobs, the stacked towers, transit center, a lot of the note worthy projects. i'm second generation construction. my dad was in it and for me it just felt right. i was about 16 when i first started drafting home plans for people and working my way through college. in college i became a project engineer on the job, replacing others who were there previously

and took over for them. the transit center project is about a million square feet. the entire floor is for commuter buses to come in and drop off, there will be five and a half acre city park accessible to everyone. it has an amputheater and water marsh that will filter it through to use it for landscaping. bay area council is big here in the area, and they have a gender equity group. i love going to the workshops. it's where i met jessica. >> we hit it off, we were both in the same field and the only two women in the same. >> through that friendship did we discover that our projects are interrelated.

>> the projects provide the power from san jose to san francisco and end in the trans bay terminal where amanda was in charge of construction. >> without her project basically i have a fancy bus stop. she has headed up the women's network and i do, too. we have exchanged a lot of ideas on how to get groups to work together. it's been a good partnership for us. >> women can play leadership role in this field. >> i tell him that the schedule is behind, his work is crappy. he starts dropping f-bombs and i say if you're going to talk to me like that, the meeting is over. so these are the challenges that

we face over and over again. the reality, okay, but it is getting better i think. >> it has been great to bond with other women in the field. we lack diversity and so we have to support each other and change the culture a bit so more women see it as a great field that they can succeed in. >> what drew me in, i could use more of my mind than my body to get the work done. >> it's important for women to network with each other, especially in construction. the percentage of women and men in construction is so different. it's hard to feel a part of something and you feel alone. >> it's fun to play a leadership role in an important project, this is important for the transportation of the entire peninsula. >> to have that person -- of women coming into construction, returning to construction from family leave and creating the

network of women that can rely on each other. >> women are the main source of income in your household. show of hands. >> people are very charmed with the idea of the reverse role, that there's a dad at home instead of a mom. you won't have gender equity in the office until it's at home. >> whatever you do, be the best you can be. don't say i can't do it, you can excel and do whatever you want. just put your mind into it.

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