respond to those comments or maybe i can make my own and you can respond collectively. i do want to acknowledge this work really got delayed because of the pandemic. >> that is something we understand. right when we had that momentum we were stopped dead in our tracks. now we have to overcome and we have the pent-up demand. we understand that and that makes sense. honestly, hearing the judges state they have never from drug court been able to place someone

in a dual diagnosis treatment program is just beyond depressing. so many people are blaming our district attorney or more recently blaming police officers. the blame is that we don't have a functioning healthcare system for people that have a primary healthcare problem. we have these incredibly innovative court systems in place. they only work if there is a treatment option behind them. there hasn't been. you know, what is incredibly depressing to me and this was confirmed by the judges. people not only don't benefit from proper treatment and get an

opportunity to get lives on track. they get much worse while in jail. we have only compounded the problem to make it more difficult for ourselves to treat individuals and help them. i guess what i would love to hear from you all right now is what do you need to increase the state at which we get these beds open? like rafael mandelman. i never thought the bland report was the end all be all report. it seems like it is scratching the surface of true need. you know, it is hard to be optimistic when we are so behind on even be that report and what it called out for. i will stop there.

then the one thing -- sorry. one more thing then i will stop. if one of you can walk me through an individual. so we have got -- what if i am on the street and come to the lincoln center or behave i can't recall health access -- behavioral health access center or hummingbird. i need help. i have a drug addiction? what is the path for that person getting into. they are homeless often times. a residential behavioral health treatment program? what is the wait on that and the biggest barriers to that? that is -- i think those are the key entries into this system. the courts and the person saying

i need help on the street that we need on demand. otherwise, i believe we are broken. could you respond to both rafael mandelman and myself with your responses. >> thanks, supervisor ronan. i will respond to the things you said as well as supervisor mandelman's comments. turn it over to the last part of your comment walking through referral process. i want to acknowledge and share a sense of urgency and need to go faster. i want to start with that. i agree. we need to really move. some of the resources that ms. kirk patrick shared with the

team is part of what we need to enable us to do that. it is challenging for dph to keep you with two crisis. we have very few dedicated program development and management staff to be able to push this as quickly as we can. i want to acknowledge supervisor mandelman's comment about the curve displayed in the bla report that we will talk about subsequently that slows we have climbed backup in some care to back to where we were nine or so years ago. that is an important thing to acknowledge. in the context of budget cuts that we are not ahead of where

we were 10 years ago in some areas. i just want to share the sense of urgency, sense of really taking a minute to identify these new resources to enable us to move quickly and a sense of need for flexibility to take advantage of opportunities that as they arise. in or out-of-county making decisions based on a plan and our good clinical practice. taking advantage of things as they come up. looking for more out-of-county rehabilitative board and care beds and we will continue to do that as we build more things in-county which does take longer. let me turn the floor over the dr. meeting for the specific walking you through getting care

and the information we have about wait times. >> with regards to getting care and particularly in residential programs, behavioral health access center will be the office of coordinated care and mental health service center in the future. we will expand under mental health san francisco. currently it is a small center that needs enlarged. second way to get in besides going to the center is go directly to the program. we have no wrong door approach. wherever you show up you should get a referral and be directed to the right location. we keep the referral instructions on the website fine treatment sf updated every day by 10:00 the current bed census,

openings, number of clients that can walk in that day and be assessed and available for admission. let me speak to substance abuse. you can show up at our treatment access program in the behavioral health access center. one of the counselors will do a quick assessment. basically asking three questions. do you have a substance problem, what kind, mental or psychiatric issues to consider? if you meet those and what is your housing status. that is very important. most clients are unhoused. they come to the center. they are most likely we will send them to health 360 program where they receive same day services. health right has established an entrance program for the city

where they enter people to detox and take on same day urgent care basis. at 4:00 or 5:00 they may come back the next morning. they can take one the same day. while they are there getting sobered up they will take time to do the paperwork to enter formally into the residential treatment for 90-120 days. for substance abuse it is similar. one day if they are not allergic getting in. >> it is more complicated for behavioral health. they like to do their own assessment and it can be delay. that is rude to get into the services. people will come in and find the

additional stabilization. answer sighty and depression can be treated at one of the many six plus more outpatient mental health clinics for depression. in terms of case management. the once that need the care come from the hospital or crisis program and me thack a referral and contact the programs. if we don't take them in immediately this is why hummingbird is a system of care. we need low share hold where they don't want meetiate treatment. to the board and care not true either. it is housing. hummingbird and wait for a week or son. get interview at baker where they are placed. it is a fast track to get into

residential. those are the path weighs. it goes well for most people. if people are out-of-county or there are history like fire starting, it can be more complicated. those are very typical pathways. >> why are the judges saying people are landing in jail 250 plus days to get into those programs and the drug court has never been successful in placing someone into a dual diagnosis program. >> i want to acknowledge there are problems with people from the jail. working in the jail is complicated. you have attorneys, difficulty getting interviews. during covid staff could not go to the jails. for telephone calls they required lawyers on video visit.

there were a lot of visits. it can be slow. this is the height for us. we prioritized referrals from jail for women that are pregnant or per inatle. for hospital discharges. those are priority groups that want to get through. i mentioned it is complicated. this fall we took three or four months and met with pre-trial diversion. the public defenders probation and jail health to streamline pathways to get people through our system. we found two areas that we needed to improve. one was the nonhealth staff.

pre-trial. not the counselors or behavioral courts. pre-trial probation was using screening tools for medical problems insufficient for referrals. we have to do them over again. then we also want to make sure we have continual care paths. their referral folks are interacting with our action center and new occ people. we have agreed to continue within the screen conversation. streamlining the processes to get people from jail into services. we need to look at a deep dive how to do? before the behavioral court as well. lastly work through our provideders. when clients have charges,

sexual offense for starting a fire. it can be difficult to place because of residential licensure issues. having prior to sexual oftens. we need to address these issues. we want to work with judges to find pathways for not only these 19 clients but other client in the future. >> this is all too vague for me. it doesn't we are going to continue to work and talk and have these conversations. we need to move. we need to make progress. the question for me and this is going to be very important during budget. how much of that allocated money

was actually used. if progress and baker are the only game in town. behavioral health courts can't get to them in a timely way. reports in the press every day people on the street need help and can't get in the beds. the system is broken, not okay. for me hearing things like we have this work group with people it is complicated to continue to have conversations. not the answer. i want to know if progress and baker don't have enough beds in the system whether or not -- the report said additional 20 beds in the dual diagnosis residential? >> no there were no increases in residential bed in the bland report. it was in the funding which was

for mental health. >> okay. land emergency services who was commissioned for years put on this optimization report didn't find one dual diagnosis residential treatment bed was necessary for the system. completely goes to why the report is incredible. not even meeting what the report requires. it makes courtrooms use less. not one bed. we have got a problem. a major problem here. i have been quiet for a year during the pandemic because it was absolutely impossible for you to address two major crisis at the same time. i get that.

i will no longer be quiet. this is not specific. the facts our behavioral health court is completely rendered use less because we do not have the system of care in the background is unacceptable and must be fixed. what i need to see is not this loosey-goosey we are having conversations. we are going to open this number of beds by this time and prioritize this population and we need this much money and we are going to report back to you with progress on this date. i need metrics that aren't a dashboard on a website that never moves. this is so frustrating. i agree with supervisor mandelman. i have been having these discussions for four years. we have gotten nowhere in four

years. all of us waiting to move the needle are losing patience. we waited for a year. we understand we are a year behind because of the pandemic. we should be further ahead than we are. we are working on the right thing not accomplishing the things we are working on. we have on to get moving. i am under whelmed and frustrated. i don't have a clear sense how we will make behavioral health coursework. i don't have a sense how someone goes to no wrong door. it seems like instead of no wrong door what we have no right door.

there is no place for you. if you don't have the dual diagnosis you need drug treatment we have a door. mental illness we have no door. you have no options. that is why we see the crisis on our streets. next time around we are going to be much more specific what we are asking for. between now and budget hearings upcoming as the new chair of the budget committee i am telling you i want a clear plan on how we are going to get the beds that we need to make the behavioral health court and to truly have a no wrong door treatment on demand for dual diagnosis we had. man dal man is concerned. i am concerned about behavioral health courts and that person

hawants help on the street. any other colleagues have comments or questions? >> the politeness really masks the sense with which we are wanting to push as hard as we can. we are aware of the urgent need for more dual diagnosis beds, urgent. i am laser focused on that. we certainly are aware of the court's need for more dual diagnosis beds and the fact this is the particular area of

bottleneck not the only one. i also think that one of the very important things to do in the coming year we better tracking and data to know what is going on realtime and be responsive to it. that is another when we ask what we need. that is another area that has been underserved because the resources are devoted to the pandemic. it has also slowed our ability to move and to no, i thinks in realtime. that is another way in which i think we will be able to move faster and improve. again. i will reiterate what ms. kirkpatrick said about advantage of opportunities to accelerate what is the lengthy start up process to acquire an open program. that is it is long.

one way to tackle is to take advantage of new opportunities which we will present and share with you as they come up that may require pivoting. the goal is people into care quickly. not have people waiting. i want to reiterate commitment and sense of urgency to move. i will give you different instructions. tell us what you need to make this happen. we will now that the pandemic is

more endemic stage. dr. you are here and are beginning to provide oversight and direction, now is the time we will be holding this department accountable for moving on mental health sf. ask for what you need. i know you don't have everything you need. i can't -- i need to know what you need to accomplish what we expect you to accomplish. ask for it. if we can't give it to you. i will know we didn't give it to you. that is why you couldn't accomplish it. >> in the first place we weren't able to get it to you. we need a clear what is the staffing you need? what are the resources you need to accomplish the very specific

goals around the needs of the behavioral health system and anyone who wants to get treatment on the street so that we can then give you the resources you need to accomplish those goals. supervisor safai. >> thank you. i have a slightly different perspective, not to contradicted what you just said, supervisor ronan. having gone through the budget last year. there is a significant amount of money the department of public health was given. we need to look at that first. i agree with you, supervisor ronan. we then can take an honest look

at what is necessary to fulfill this mandate. the other thing i want to say i want to appreciate the doctor. we spent an hour and a half a month and a half ago going over the different levels of opportunities for mental health treatment beds. one of the things i want to say on the record is that even if we were able to get the dollars, able to get additional resources, one of the things i learned from that conversation. there is a scarcity of the opportunity. the skilled nursing locked beds. if we wanted to go after additional hundred for example. we could use those tomorrow. they don't exist. we are competing with other counties around the state. the contract we authorized about a month and a half ago which spurred the conversation.

we got an additional 12 beds. we were competing with multiple counties. the reason i bring that up. i want to hear what the doctor has to say regional perspective. this is not something that we can necessarily solve on our own.

>> i think that is a great point. we are talking with other counties. we will continue to, i think, prioritizing areas where we could move forward today together. >> i think it is taking again, taking advantage of every opportunity to solve access from the most extreme locked beds to

lower their hold beds figuring out where to go for the county or regional level. >> i just happened to be driving in sonoma county in the fall. there was a giant piece of land for sale. it had all of the residential facilities. it was former psychiatric place. it looked like it could house thousands of people for sale. it was going on the market at some point. it had a locked treatment

facility for young adults right next to it up the street. this was down the street. it was a phenomenal piece. i wonder, you know, we are constrained. 49 square miles. i wonder what is the thinking when it comes to outside of san francisco in terms of service? i know there are providers around the state. there is a need for this. i don't believe we will be able to meet the full demand within the boundaries of our border. i appreciate the effort supervisor ronan and others have done with mental health sf. we called for audit of mental health services within department of public health for a year and a half to get that

report. that laid a lot 6 ground work for conversations. there was debate about should we rebuild the jail, rebuild the institution that would provide mental health services. that seems to have died and not gone anywhere. i just think at in point similar to the conversations we have around the care. i feel like we need to think outside the box. i appreciated the breakdown what beds were needed for the continuum of care. to supervisor ronan's point if someone is on the ground every day dealing with this pushing the agenda. some frustration lies in doing a lot of the same things over and over again with the same results. we have this wonderful kind of outline really long to get that i ammented. there are opportunities outside of the county we haven't i don't think we have taken advantage of. >> i will say, yes, we should

look and take advantage to regional opportunities. we have actually done that with our newest rehabtative board and care beds. i think we are very open to doing more of that. i agree that, again, turning over every stone to find opportunity including regional collaboration is an approach. you heard some of the back and forth about sometimes and some people prefer treatment close to home. there are many good climb and other reasons for that -- good clinical reasons for that. as you heard from the judge people do find therapeutic to get away from home. to take advantage of regional

collaboration when we can solve problems. >> thank you. did you want to add anything, doctor? >> i would like to say the reason it is a little bit of a touchy conversation with other counties. around medical, other counties when you go you are to enroll in the county where you are receiving services. other counties thought we will sending them our problems. one way street. i think to work out the collaboration we would need. >> i find that very humorous because we know so many people come from out-of-county. the vast majority are still from san francisco. there is a percentage that aren't. it is funny other counties would say we are sending them residents to deal with. a lot of them are coming from

out-of-county in the first place. that is interesting that you guys come up against that. i appreciated the conversation about the out-of-county board and care. that was down south bay. we are competing against other counties for those limited beds. that also needs to be a real conversation. our state senators, governor's office should be something. this is something that could be taken from san francisco to sacramento and can be something worthwhile to continue a conversation about. >> thank you for your hard work. i know it is frustrating for everyone involved that it is not moving fast enough. i am done. >> thank you so much.

if it is okay with the chair to open up for public comment? >> i am sitting in for the chair now. i am acting chair until he is back. yes, public comment. >> we are checking for callers in the queue. members of the public to comment press star 3 to be added to the line to speak. for those on hold please continue to wait until you are unmuted. do we have anybody lined up to speak. >> there is nobody in the queue. >> mr. vice chair. >> great. public comment is closed. supervisor ronan any closing remarks on this item?

>> this is the beginning of the conversation. this is my top priority. you know, supervisor mandelman i feel a mix of, you know, there is no point in not having optimism. there are reasons to be optimistic. the tenderloin emergency has allowed 200 vacant positions which is a major impediment to the system. we know creating new facilities is burden some process in the

world in this city. i want to ensure you that my frustration does not come without my commitment to partner with you to making anything that i can eases h easier. i encourage you to be clear about what it is so this committee and the board of supervisors can help to overcome those challenges. into if i can make a motion to file this item. >> do you want to file it to the call of the chair and bring it

back up? >> i would like to file this item. we have to continue to look at the beds issue in the entire mental health sf framework. we have a final implementation report that we could agendize and have this be one part of it. from this point for ward we will look at this. >> larger budget process. great. perfect. motion to file has been made. mr. clerk. >> yes. on that motion by member ronen. i will need a second. >> second by me. >> second by yourself. safai. >> aye. >> mar. >> aye.

>> ronen. >> aye. >> member walton. >> aye. >> chair haney absent. >> we will take a recess until 3:30 p.m. for a special order item. >> that's correct. >> we will reconvene at 3:30 >> willing back to the budget and appropriations meeting. please call item 3. >> clerk: item number three is a hearing to identify the youth commission budget priorities for fiscal years 2022-2023 and 2024. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on

this item should call (415)655-0001, meeting i.d. 2495 856 1232 then press pound twice. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. you may begin your comments. >> welcome to representative of the youth commission. it's great to have you here and to be able to hear your budget priorities for the upcoming fiscal year.

>> good afternoon supervisor haney. i am the district 7 youth commissioner and the chair of the commission. i want to introduce my colleagues. >> hello, i'm the district youth commissioner. >> my name is jaden, i represent district 1. >> we represent the san francisco youth commission. we are s.f. only charterrered youth body. without of our key duty is to report to the board of supervisors on our activities

and goals as well as our legislative and budgetary needs. that's what we're here to do today. based on the youth commission advocacy and input from young people, the ycbp passed a budget commission on january 4th of last year. this resolution is our fiscal and legislative priorities that we'll go over today. >> about a year ago, we were able to hold a youth budget townhall as a commission. we were able to connect with young people and adults from all over the city. we were able to hold very productive conversations including some department heads and legislators around important issue areas like housing,

homelessness. we were able to partner with a budget of community-based organizations for this townhall. unfortunately, this term, we had limited staff capacity. that hindered our ability to do similar events like this. we still have been able to use lot of the pin out from the townhall and our work this term. >> i want to outline some of these recommendations set forth by our previous civic engagement committee. first of which is to department of elections, we would strongly recommend funding youth voter outreach and preregistration for 16 and 17-year-olds which we've heard overwhelming support for in our budget townhall. recommendations includes implementing fee waivers for

driver's license applications and other resources to help young people recover from covid-19 and further mental health and physical health. continuing on recommendations for ycyf. we strongly want to fund support for transitional age youth or t.a.y. who have challenges with remote learning. in addition to this support for t.a.y., working with departments -- [ indiscernible ]

>> our recommendations for the adult probation department is increasing funding for reentry programs and services for physical, mental and educational needs with focus of employment resources, day care, mental health and counseling support. housing, navigation services and educational resources. i will ask the universal department expand existing programming like covid-19 testing, mental health and counseling and proposed money for alternative to incarceration and the release of the young people to local jurisdictions. >> within the police department, we would like to see implementation of education on

youth brain development through an equity and trauma-informed lens. we like to fund community advisory groups and ensure that these work groups have the ability to invest in in-depth community engagement and outreach on the reinvestment of funds from the police department. we would like to direct our time towards redistricting funds to youth who have contact with the justice system. as for cutting fundings, we like to cut funding of the police department by at least 50% and reallocate those funds to programs outside of sfpd. we like one-half to go towards social and community center services such as mental health and youth employment programs. additionally we like one fifth of funds go towards hiring social workers and counselors.

we like three tenths to go towards sfusd schools, equity and mental health focus in schools especially with high percentage of black and latinx youth. >> within the department of police accountability, we want to increase community outreach in know your right training for youth within the district attorney office to propose funding for victim rights advocates and language capacity. within the department of public health, we recommend more funding towards covid-19 pandemic relief programming for food insecurity and p.p.e. distribution and collaborate

with other agencies to propose funding for business and mentorship resources for youth previously involved in the criminal and juvenile justice systems. >> heading into our recommendations regarding the -- we like to see it stick to its prior commitment to implement 400 units of permanent supportive outing swelts expanding on this commitment. it's important that the city prioritizes supportive housing for girl shelters. we think it's important that the city maintain funding for navigation center as well as expanding services and may be establishing newer navigation areas.

we right do -- we like to see community-based organizations that are most often on the ground and interacting with the t.a.y. we like to see increase in job readiness programs for t.a.y. and financial support for t.a.y. and educational systems. we like to see the service provider have increase in hazard pay during covid-19 seeing they are on the ground interacting with these folks. we like to see improvements to r t.a.y. youth. as well as greater flexibility with problem solving dollars granted to service providers who

operate as these access points. finally, we like to see that the prop b money get spent on housing for homeless youth. >> for the m.t.a. we like to see permanent funding for the free muni for all youth program to be expanded past the one-year mark we like to eliminate nominal fare for youth unto age 23. we like to see funding for full-time youth development mission and compensate youth serving on advisory bodes for the m.t.a. we like to see funding for the sunset improvement project. we like to see sfmta collaborate with the sfmta to establish a strategy to build an effective equitable and reliable transportation system for s.f.

youth and students. we want to see the funding implemented to make public transportation more efficient throughout the bay area. we like the board of supervisors to look into the work that they are doing to ensure there's focus throughout the bay area and not just in san francisco. overall, that wraps up our particular recommendations on individual committees or departments. as for the board of supervisors, we hope to increase salaries for all youth commission staff over 100% to enable long-term standing staff with institutional memory. after all, you commission staff are integral to our leadership

development and us functioning as a commission. we would also support youth commission office achieving compensation for commissioners. all departments that have advisory bodies or commissions with young people youth and t.a.y. seats should be provided compensatory stipends. thank you so much for your time. if you have questions, you can contact youth commission staff. we'll be happy to take questions.

supervisor ronen? can you hear us chair haney? i think chair haney is having technical issues. i will start to ask questions. >> supervisor ronen: thank you so much for the presentation. it was so thorough and concise and direct and specific. which you can teach a lot some of our department heads who aren't as always clear and

straightforward. i agree with so many of the recommendations and i'm going to study them closely as we go through the budget process. my question for you all as the chair of the youth young adults and families committee, who has worked and spent lot of time focused on the public school system and how kids are doing, young people are doing returning to school after the pandemic and distance learning. i love to hear from you all how are you doing? when does it feel like in school post-pandemic or in the middle of the pandemic but back to in-person learning. both from the mental health perspective and from an academic perspective. how are you guys and your friends and your colleagues in

school? >> i can start. it's a lot. i think overall, young people like me and my peers are on path to recovery from the pandemic. undoubtedly like the pandemic was very difficult mentally, physically especially virtual and online education. i think right now, you're still in that transition period between being in a pandemic state and also trying to have regular young people lives. we see this particularly with the commission where we all want to be in person when possible. with covid restrictions, we are still one of the only commissions that aren't able to go back in person and do our work to the fullest extent. i'm hopeful that we are on

track. i feel like my peers and i want that to be a little bit faster. >> i'm really happy with how school is going now. i've been super excited to get back since the beginning of school year. lot of my peers feel the same. in terms like public health at school, i think we're lucky to be in a city where lot of my peers are vaccinated. i don't feel too unsafe. getting back to normal things like sports, i finished my basketball season. that's really good for my mental health. >> i would say that i overall feel grateful.

even after that happened, everyone around me has been so resilient and supportive. i'm grateful to have access to support systems in school and within any family and social circle. it feels really great that everyone can come back together after everything that happened and support one another. i have lot of gratitude for everything that's in my life right now. >> for me, it's been a year since i've been in school. i graduated last spring. i do remember transitioning before i graduated into the pandemic. it was really hard to like focus or get to know new system of learning or even like -- it really affected my mental health to get up and to go to zoom

class. it's basically just finding the support systems that really helped me go through school and find people who are struggling. i'm very grateful with my friends and support system too. >> chair haney: i'm back. president walton? >> president walton: thank you so much. i don't have a question. i want to thank the youth commission for being precise and concise and being able to talk about one of your priorities and

to provide recommendations. i do have the opportunity to meet with the clerk's office to talk about your priorities as we move forward as well. just again, here to support all of your work and appreciate all of you stepping up and leading your peers. i want to thank you for that. it's important. i love to see it. >> chair haney: supervisor mar? >> supervisor mar: i want to echo my colleagues appreciation to the youth commissioners for your presentation on the recommendation. i think you guys touched on the really key issue that we're grappling with as a city and your recommendations very much align with my and my colleagues

around civic engagement for youth and justice system reform and reentry and transportation needs of youth. really appreciate you including the 29 sunset that's something that been actively involved with. it would help with lowell high school as you mentioned increase diversity and equity at lowell to allow more accessibility from the southeast neighborhoods. as a dad of high schooler, i appreciate your leadership and your direct engagement with our government. look forward to working with you guys this year on implementing and addressing all these important issues. thank you.

>> chair haney: i absolutely agree. i appreciate your leadership and some of the things that you put forward have been important to us. we will advocate for but also some other ones you flagged, i know number of times, i would just put on the record that i hope that we can at some point deal with this issue of stipends for commissioners. this is something that comes up again and again. if you want to make sure that young people can serve and that we can have sustainability around it, it's something that's critical. i hope that's something that the budget committee looks at and some sort of pilot around it or what not. i want to flag that really specific recommendation. i wanted to ask question kind of about youth commission's process and determining priority. i appreciated at the beginning,

you lay out -- laying out your budget priorities. does the youth commission on an annual basis, come up with a single priority or a set of legislative priorities that you're going to focus on like your campaign for the year. how do you -- obviously there are issues that come to you on a regular basis. do you choose sort of small set of focus areas or campaign for the year? how does that process work? >> i can briefly speak to this. prior to this past term, we would have three committees. we had our civic engagement committee, transformative justice committee and housing land use committee, each group of commissioners would focus on a specific campaign. for example, specific engagement

focus on prom g or vote 16 in 2020. our committee is where we spearhead very specific issues this year we are unable to have those particular committees because of staff capacity or lack there of. hopefully that explains little bit about how it's done. >> chair haney: do you have a priority campaign for this year? where are you in that process? if there's an area focus that -- i think it can be obviously the campaign around vote 16 was hugely impactful.

it's powerful when you have single set of priorities that we all understand or things that you really want to get done with you during your time. is there something that is risen to that level currently? >> with vote 16, we are right now carrying out a survey that we will implement throughout this next few months. we hope to bring the vote 16 campaign back in 2024 and try again with the campaign. >> the housing group has been preparing to push out a resolution for free muni for all youth to be extended past the one-year mark. we've been collecting data from

past commissioners who have involvement with the m.t.a. currently and organizations like san francisco transit riders. we're pushing out that resolution. we've been helping with other outreach like the sfmta townhall and the sunset survey. we've been trying to put out our own resolution and supporting other transit groups with their group this year as well. >> chair haney: i'm happy to hear you will bring vote 16 back. 2024 is the year. we'll get it done. thank you for continuing that and the focus on extending the free muni for all youth. it's wonderful. that's really helpful to know those things. fantastic. supervisor safai, did you want to add anything? >> supervisor safai: i'm having technical difficulties. thank you all for all your hard

work. i want to say hi to my commissioner, emily. great work. thanks for continuing to focus on transportation related studies, definitely supportive of continuing youth expanding free muni past the one year pilot. really look forward to working with you all. you all bring the good energy up. guys have nice smiles on your faces and you're happy to get going. >> chair haney: thank you all for your hard work and energy we're here to support you.

>> supervisor safai: thank you chair haney? is he frozen? >> i wanted to say thank you all for your feedback and your cooperation with the commissioner's budget recommendation. they've been working really hard. they really do deserve all the praise. >> supervisor safai: any other closing remarks? i think chair haney is frozen. he's back. now he's on mute. go ahead. >> chair haney: there we go. my computer cannot handle seven hours of budget committee. well, thank you, i'm sure supervisor safai said lots of great things. we have to open up to public

comment. >> clerk: thank you. operations, if there are any callers in the queue. members of the public who wish to provide comment, please press star 3 now. i'm seeing from our department of technology that there are no callers in the queue. >> chair haney: public comment is now closed. >> supervisor safai: god bless you. >> chair haney: thank you so much to your youth commissioners and your youth commission staff. we greatly appreciate your work and look forward to continuing to hear your feedback and ideas and priorities throughout the budget process and beyond.

as you may know, supervisor ronen will be the new chair of the budget committee. please continue to engage with us and work with her. i know she's very supportive and interested to make sure those priorities you laid out and youth are a key and part of our budget process. she's the chair of the youth committee. i want to move that this hearing be heard and filed. do i have a second? >> second. >> chair haney: seconded by supervisor safai. roll call vote please. >> clerk: on that motion that the hearing be heard and filed as made by chair haney, seconded by vice chair safai. [roll call vote]

member mar absent. we have four ayes. >> chair haney: great, thank you so much. thank you all. is there any other items before us today? >> clerk: that concludes your business. >> chair haney: great. this meeting is adjourned. thank you.

>> clerk: this meeting is being held by webex pursuant to the governor's executive order and the mayoral declaration of a public emergency. during the covid-19 emergency, the fire commission's regular meeting room at city hall is closed, and the meetings of the fire commission will continue -- convene remotely. you may watch live at www.sfgov.tv, and to participate by phone, call

415-655-0001 and use access code 2480-574-2796. members of the public will be allowed to participate but they are asked to wait until the item is called before public comment is received. when the item is called, members of the public can raise their hand by calling star, three. when prompted, callers will have the standard three minutes to provide comment. please ensure you are in a quiet location, speak clearly, and turnoff any t.v.s or raid joes around you. item 1, roll call. [roll call]

-- radios around you. item 1, roll call. [roll call] >> clerk: vice president nakajo will now read the land acknowledgement. >> commissioner nakajo: good morning, commissioners, and members of the fire department. the san francisco fire commission acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the ramaytush ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the san francisco peninsula. as the indigenous stewards of

this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush ohlone have never ceded, lost, no, sir forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. as guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. we wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the ramaytush ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. madam secretary, next item. >> clerk: item 2, resolution 2022-04. resolution making findings to allow teleconferenced meetings under california government cold section 54953-e. >> commissioner nakajo: i need a motion and a second.

>> commissioner covington: so moved. >> commissioner cleaveland: second. >> commissioner nakajo: all in favor? >> clerk: mr. vice president, i need a roll call vote because the meeting is remote. [roll call] >> clerk: item 3, general public comment. members of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes on any matter within the commission's jurisdiction that does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department personnel. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with a speakers. the lack of a response by the commissioners or dependency personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. and there are no callers on the

public comment line. >> commissioner nakajo: public comment is closed. >> clerk: item 4, approval of the minutes. discussion and possible action to approve meeting minutes. >> commissioner cleaveland: so moved. >> commissioner covington: second. >> clerk: item 5, chief of department's report. report from chief of department, jeanine nicholson. report on current issues, activities, and events within the department since the fire commission meeting on february 9, 2022, including budget, academies, special events, kmuxs, and outreach to other government agencies and the public, and report from administration, deputy chief tom o'connor.

report on the administrative divisions, fleet and facility status and updates, finance, support services, and training within the department. >> commissioner nakajo: madam secretary, is there any public comment after the item? >> clerk: there are no callers on the public comment line. >> good evening. this is my report for this commission meeting. as some of you know, i attended the lunar new year parade. it was really well attended, and it was really great to see the crowds and energy back in the city. i know many of our families and friends also saw us on t.v. i know chief serrano's family was really proud to see him on t.v., and we just had a really

wonderful time, and many thanks to the asian firefighters association for hosting us afterwards at a dinner. it was just really, really nice, and i'm not usually a night person, so it had to be really, really nice if i'm saying it's nice. covid is on the decline. we have a total of 26 people off, and those numbers continue to drop, which is really, really good. we've been having multiple conversations internally and with the mayor's budget office, and i want to thank olivia scanlon and mark corso for all

their work that they do on this. it takes a village, and we are also set to meet with the mayor's budget office next week for some further conversation, and we will keep you in the loop about that. under our community paramedic division, street wellness team began at the end of january, and i am going on a road along with them in the next couple of weeks. i think it's really important that i get out there and see what's what and how they work, and i know that they are adding value to the city and to the department, and i appreciate their work and chief pang's work overseeing all of that. if you have questions about that, i know that chief pang is happy to answer questions.

we started an h-3 level class, a paramedic class yesterday with 20 people, and we have not done this -- i don't know the last time we had a level two class. it's been a while. typically, we've been hiring level ones as e.m.t.s, and then, they can go through a bump-up academy. the thing is we were actually going through e.m.t.s who had paramedic licenses, so while i want us to still hire level one e.m.t.s because not everybody has the opportunity to go to paramedic school, i think it is much more efficient for us to also hire level two paramedics. so they are in class for the next, i believe, six weeks, and it is nonstop hiring and trains over in e.m.s., and i want to thank chief tong and her team

and chief kailoa and the training of e.m.s. i know they're working triple time over there to get things done and moving, so it's good news that we are hiring. many of you know the -- went to the port commission last night, and the port and fire presented to the commission about the purchase of the port property, and i want to thank vice president nakajo and commissioner morgan for calling in, offering their support. the port, the fire department, local 798, and our commission, so it was a strong -- a strong

showing. and this evening at 7:00, i'm going to the port's southern advisory committee meeting, and chief o'connor and i will be there to speak to them on the same. and then, last, i've been doing meet and greets for the new h-2 firefighter class. we did some today, and we're getting some -- we're seeing some good candidates. chief peoples and i have been taking the members who have gone through the panel process, meeting some of our other firefighters and e.m.t.s and paramedics, and they passed those folks on up to us, and we had some meetings today, and we will continue to do so this week. and that concludes my report, and i'm happy to take any questions. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, chief nicholson.

madam secretary, do we need to go to public comment before the commissioners ask their questions or comments? i think you're muted, madam secretary. >> clerk: sorry. there is nobody on the public comment line. >> commissioner nakajo: all right. commissioners, at this time, comments or questions to the chief of the department. commissioner covington, please? >> commissioner covington: okay. thank you, mr. vice president, and thank you for your report, chief. i wanted to know a little bit more about -- excuse me -- what was discussed at the port commission, and i definitely want to thank the vice president for calling in, and

also commissioner morgan, so what was discussed? >> thank you, commissioner covington, and through the vice president, yes. the port staff themselves that we've been working with closely on the purchase of this land and that we've been working on with the legislation, we -- tom o'connor presented for the fire department, and we talked about a lot of things, and is there anything specifically that you'd like to know? i can have deputy chief o'connor speak to what he spoke about last night?

>> commissioner covington: well, you or chief o'connor can just hit the high notes. >> chief o'connor, you can talk about this. we talked about how good our department is, how good our partnership is with the port, how our relationship is with congress member phil ting on the legislation, and chief o'connor gave a presentation on what the department could expect. chief o'connor, did i miss

anything? >> we talked about the necessity to move into a new facility, and we found a perfect piece of land, and we broke it down to the components that we need for suppression, our emergency operations training core, how it needs to be a clean and green facility, the light impact on the neighborhood that we had, smoke mitigation, cleaning the water, clean and green facility. and then, we really highlighted all the community partnerships that we wanted to expand on when we were in the bayview-hunters point. [indiscernible] we talked about the fire academy training center where we're going to reach out to community members about fire training and middle

class jobs. that was really the ending point, how we just want to partner with the community, for the city, and have this be a beacon for san francisco and the area for training. >> commissioner covington: okay. very good. thank you for that. i'm glad to know that representative ting is really supporting this effort because we do need all hands on deck for this to make it happen. and did you talk about the cost of all of this? >> no, that was not discussed, other than the port commissioners asked about fair market value, and director andrea kopenik was there to speak about that, but we did not talk about the cost of the facility. >> commissioner covington: okay. all right.

great. i just have one other question for you, chief, and that is a question regarding something that was in our packet. it was a letter to you, the mayor, the commissioners, the san francisco chronicle and ktvu regarding the reduction in staffing. it's a very short letter. you probably did receive it, you may not remember it. if you want me to read what it says, i can. >> i'm looking for it in my packet right now. >> commissioner covington: it's just one paragraph. >> okay. if you could -- yeah, first, if

i may just clarify, i meant assembly member ting, not congress member, but if you could read it to me, that would be helpful. >> commissioner covington: it says, with the reduction in staffing in the fire department from both covid and retirements, there is a significant increase in mandatory overtime, period. because of this, most probationary firefighters are working double shifts, period. since they are accumulating the mandatory training hours at an accelerated rate, it would seem only fair that the

protectionary time requirements be reduced to be consistent with hours worked. >> so -- probationary time requirements be reduced to be consistent with hours worked. >> so that has been raised before, and we have kept it consistent with regular shifts and not overtime shifts, so, you know, i'm not sure who wrote this. maybe chief kailoa, might you have something further on this? any comments you can make for me? >> nothing further than that, chief. >> commissioner covington: i do know because we had a flood of retirements and also people who were not covid compliant, not

working, that the newbies have been working very hard, and it seems to me it warrants a little more discussion. not with the commission but with all the interested parties. >> yes, thank you, commissioner covington, and what i can tell you is we've had a significant decrease in mandatory overtime over the last month or so, really since the first couple of weeks of 2022, and, you know, some days, we only have three or fore people on mandatory -- four people on

mandatory overtime over the last month or so. >> commissioner covington: okay. thank you. you're muted. >> commissioner nakajo: commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: yeah, thanks, mr. vice president. i had a follow up on the property and port discussion. are we getting anything from assembly member ting, certifying that they're selling the parcel to the fire department for training purposes? are we getting some kind of written agreement, letter, whatever, that we can then submit to assembly member ting that can be part of the presentation at the legislature? >> so they have yet to vote on it, so that would have to happen first, and, you know s i'm not sure how that would work, but i would imagine that

would be an action item at their next commission meeting. >> commissioner cleaveland: okay. so we'd still have to vote to approve the sale? >> yes, and the port itself has been extremely supportive of us, and director forbes has been great in having her staff work with us. >> commissioner cleaveland: great. that was my question. you said you had a class of h-2 firefighters beginning soon. how many do you expect to begin to recruit into this class? >> well, we have an h-3 level two class that started yesterday of paramedics, and we currently have a class of h-2s

in right now. they've been in -- chief kailoa, you can tell me how many weeks they've been in. five weeks. they've been in for five weeks, and our next class is likely to start sometime in may, and right now, we're looking at 50, but it's going to depend on retirements and some other things, but that's what we're looking at right now. >> commissioner cleaveland: okay. in a bunch of discussions with the mayor's budget office, any particular items that are new that we haven't discussed in the past or any particular new requests that we are putting forth that you can think of? >> no. we're still in the preliminary discussions with them, and the

mayor made it clear what her priorities are, the vibrancy of the city, clean streets, etc., so we are linking what we can to all of those things, but our usual -- we will be requesting our equipment and fleets and some other things, as well. nothing earth shattering at this time, no. >> commissioner cleaveland: so we're still dedicating some of our focus of the e.m.s. definition on the tenderloin area in the city, correct? >> so -- >> commissioner cleaveland: including this new street wellness team? >> yes. the street wellness team is staffed by two members of station 49, and, you know, the

tenderloin linkage site, we are not staffing, but we are responding for overdoses and the like, and we have a member that is in charge of the healthy streets operations that are in charge for that, city focus in the t.l. so yeah, our folks are doing a lot of work, a lot of great work and have really stepped up to the plate and have been, in my opinion, a wonderful city partner with some other departments in terms of finding some real solutions with some of the issues out there. >> commissioner cleaveland: well, i think that we are a key player, and probably the most important player in the tenderloin area right now, helping get that area together, so to speak. that's all my questions right

now, mr. vice president. thank you. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, commissioner cleaveland. madam secretary, can you show that commissioner morgan joined the meeting at 5:27? >> clerk: thank you, mr. vice president. i show he joined the meeting at 5:21. >> commissioner morgan: thank you, mr. vice president. i had a photo shoot with the mayor at city hall for black history month. >> commissioner nakajo: no problem. we were at the point of where we were asking questions of the chief for her report. deputy chief o'connor has to still deliver his report. commissioners covington and

cleaveland made their remarks, and i'll go ahead and ask my questions. on the portions of the paramedic class, i'm thrilled that we have a paramedic class and that we're hitting the ground running with these members. i think it's important with all the staffing teams that we're seeing, as well. a great job you did last night, chief, as well as chief o'connor, with the port commission. i wanted to let you know, commissioners, as well as commissioner morgan, that i was really thrilled that every

commissioner did speak spoke in support of us and the training facility. it was remarkable because some of them picked up points that i picked up in our presentations by the chief and chief o'connor, commissioner morgan, myself jumping in. one of the commissioners didn't release that we were doing all of the direct work with the crisis teams. again, the education is just not suppression or fire prevention, but e.m.s., as well, but it was really, really encouraging if you chief said do you have any design concepts yet, and the director responds with the square footage of the property. the ad strors working

cooperatively with the port commission, and then hearing all of the team is working with assembly member ting. even commissioner burton is saying that they're behind this concept, so for us, to go into the finality, i don't want to put the cart in front of the horse, i just want to say that it was encouraging, but also let folks know that we are looking at the state of the arts facility. commissioner morgan, did you want to make any comments about last night's port commission meeting, as well, from your perception?

>> commissioner morgan: yeah. i hope we made a dent in it. i'm a proponent of the training facility. i'm sure it's in an area that needs some -- you know, more infrastructure like that for training and opportunities for some of the young kids in there just to know that it's right around the corner. and it'll create construction jobs, good union jobs for local hire, supplement our apprenticeship program, and put people to work, so i'm call for that, growing the fire department, and i hope, you know, we made some kind of impact on that. it was a pleasure to do it, and i think that the chief was doing a great job, and that's all i've got to say. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, commissioner morgan. i think it was the influence of trying to recruit members of th