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>> clerk: vice president elias, if i could take roll? >> vice president elias: yes, please. [roll call] >> clerk: vice president elias, you have a quorum. with us tonight is chief william scott and diane from the office of police accountability. >> vice president elias: good evening. this is also commissioner

hamasaki's last meeting. >> commissioner hamasaki: if we can get through the tears, we'll be okay. >> vice president elias: there will be a lot of tears. okay. next item. >> clerk: item 1, general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or d.p.a. personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police or d.p.a. personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. at this time, if you'd like to make public comment, approach the podium or press star,

three. >> hello. my name is reeta larkin, and i'm here this week, and i was here last here. there's a bill that died called a.b. 1837. the bill's title is no place like home, and they have a partner with the police officers and the parole agents who have been hard times trying to locate their parolees to arrest high risk neighborhood that, in my neighborhood, in the complex, tenants are always been terrorized, held hostage, all kind of stuff. and the one family that i spoke of, one sister is running around, and they can't seem to locate her, and she's between

marin city and here. if you can just look that bill up, and if the bill needs to be rewrote or whatever, do what's needed. thank you. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> yes. my name is david elliott lewis. i'm a long time member of the police department crisis intervention team mental health working group. this is an advisory group of volunteers that advises on the apartment c.i.t. program, so i've been a part of this since about 2014, and i've noticed great progress in officers' training, in deescalation, and less use of force by those trained. it's been a really successful

program. it's a small department of six, i think led by lieutenant mario molina. they're all hard working. half of them are training, half of them are field, and they do field operations, and they're amazing. it's taken a while for the core message of taking time, distance, and building rapport to take effect, but it's happening. we're seeing less use of force in apprehending suspects, and good work to the officers who

have been trained to running the program, and my name is david elliott lewis. thank you. >> clerk: hello, caller. your two minutes starts now. >> hello. my name is [indiscernible] they're not only disturbing on their own terms, but the department has a history of treating every disturbing event

as if it's isolated events. the most important fact that has come out of the arrest of officers who have been accused of destroying evidence illegally, contrary to their duties as police officers, they told the hotel staff when they discovered what had been stolen credit cards and stolen drugs, that it would take too much time to document it. the only explanation is that the culture of the department

has led these officers to believe that they've ignored their duty so openly. with respect to the retired officer who put the machine gun out on the property room to be found, obviously, through a property inventory, his quote according to the press is he was just borrowing it. it is amazing how blatant this conduct is, and if you don't do something, it will keep happening over and over again. thank you. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> my name is susan black man, and i volunteer with wealth and disparities in the black community. i have grown tired of talking to the police commission, the sfpd, and to the board of supervisors.

where is the urgency? if the tables are turned and these statistics represented white folks, i know there would be an urgency. when are you going to take a stand and address these fines and i think thises within your responsibility. i think you need to take an oath to uphold the law for all san franciscans. sfpd latest 96-a report for fourth quarter 2021 show that the disparities in policing were far worse than the quarter before. according to the report, these disparities are worse than the prior quarter and worse than when reporting started six years ago. sfpd admitted it left those quarterly rates and disparity grounds out of the reporting

for the first time in years. you can't help but think these were omitted deliberately because the antiblack racism is done so deliberately. we need a quarterly report on antiblack disparities. thank you. >> clerk: good evening, caler. you have two minutes. >> hello. my name is david aaronson. i'm with wealth and disparities from the black community. the following is a quote from our founder, felicia jones. i've grown tired of talking to the police commission, the sfpd, and the board of supervisors. where is the urgency. if the tables were turned and these represents white folks, there would be an urgency. when are you going to take responsibility and address the harsh biased and unjust

statistics as you took an oath to uphold the law and seek the good for all san franciscans. i'm tired. not tired enough to quit, tired to look at my quotes calling on deaf ears. we've sought help from attorney general banta. the -- many compliance measures are not technology related, they are about training. the fact that sfpd is not using already available data in the january reporting to the body

here [indiscernible] to train officers and supervisors is ridiculous. why don't sfpd supervisors use of disparity data in these existing reports in discussions and training with officers' bias, let alone hold anyone accountable for biased behavior. sfpd appears unwilling to change this on going antiblackness. again, where is the consistency, where is the accountability? thank you. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> hello. my name is jean bridges, and i volunteer with wealth and disparties in the black community. the following is a quote from our founder, felicia jones. i've grown tired of talking to the police commission, to sfpd, and to the board of supervisors. where the urgency? if the tables were turned and

these statistics represented white folks, i know there would be an urgency. when are you going to address the harsh, biased, and unjust statistics as you took an oath to protect all san franciscans. i am tired, not tired enough to quit but tired of beating a dead horse and tired of our calls falling on deaf ears. this week, sfpd made headlines for corrupt criminal behavior. three officers, including a 21 year veteran reportedly engaged in criminal behavior. the police officers association was quoted at saying, we are

familiar with the alleged incidents and believe the evidence will show that these facts were not warranted. we ask everyone to realize that these people are presumed innocent until province guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. -- until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. we demand sfpd demand accountability for corrupt behavior. thank you. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> francisco dacosta. i want to bring to your attention, as i did the last time, that the commissioners should look into the redistricting task force. this measure now has gone to court, and this is the right

time for the commission to look into the redistricting task force and see what you can do to better improve quality of life issues in san francisco. there are a number of public housing that have had incidents of require on ingalls and oakdale. i would think that some sort of investigation would have to be done, linked to the patrolling of this area by the housing people. it has to be died to the -- tied to the san francisco police department in order to address the quality of life issues. the people are distressed. thank you very much. >> clerk: vice president elias, that is the end of public

comment. >> vice president elias: thank you, sergeant. can you please call the next item? >> clerk: item 2, consent calendar, receive and file, action. >> vice president elias: do any of my commissioners have any questions or would like to agendize any of the items? otherwise, we can take a motion. >> commissioner yee: i'll make the motion. >> i'll second. >> clerk: on the motion to accept the consent calendar -- [roll call]

>> clerk: you have six yeses. >> vice president elias: next item. >> clerk: line item 3, chief's report. weekly crime trends and public safety concerned. provide an overview of offenses, incidents, or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting. >> chief scott: i'm going to start this week's report with the announcement of the arrest of two current san francisco police officers and one retired san francisco police officer. that announcement was made yesterday, but i'm just going

to repeat the release. the sfpd announced the arrests of two officers and one retired member. the retired member was working in a part-time program under the city's prop f program which allows retire officers to work a limited number of hours. on august 12, sfpds internal affairs division was notified of the missing firearm. sfpd investigators immediately launched an investigation which immediately established that retired san francisco police officer mark williams was in possession of the firearm. retired officer williams was immediately terminated from his position with the police department. on tuesday, april 19, williams

voluntarily surrendered himself at san francisco county jail, where he was booked on charges of unlawful possession of a machine gun, as 32625 of the california penal code, possession of a silencer, 32510. on july 3, 2021, investigators from the sfpd internal affairs division were notified of an incident involving the destruction of evidence prior to -- the prior evening on the 700 block of mission street. sfpd investigators launched an investigation which established that officer kevin lyons and kevin sien destroyed evidence. they were immediately transferred to assignments with

nonpublic contact. on friday, april 15, 2022, a san francisco superior court judge signed and issued arrest warrants for lyons and sien. on tuesday, april 19, 2022, the two surrendered themselves to san francisco city jail. these actions of these sfpd members violate the law and regrettably fall short of our shared values. as sworn peace officers, we have no higher obligation than to earn and maintain public trust and we are disappointed that this detracts from our sworn officers and work that our nonsworn members do every

day. commission, as you know, this case may end up before the commission, and that is pretty much what we can say publicly at this time. >> vice president elias: okay. is that all your updates?

>> chief scott: no, i actually have more, but i'll be brief. this is out of the reporting period at 12:11 overnight, the victim was sitting in his parked car when two subjects approached and began firing at the victim. one person was able to get out of the vehicle and find cover. the victim got out of the vehicle and was struck numerous times by gun fire. two suspects fled on foot, and the victim was transported to a local hospital and succumbed to his injuries. we do have some leads that we're following up on. nobody's in custody at this point, and i will keep the commission posted at this investigation continues. we had another shooting in the

bayview, on april 2, 2022, at 1:35 p.m. no further information and no suspect in custody at this time. on the 14, at 3:35 a.m., on acker place in the taraval, a victim was shot as a relative's resident and he was driven to the hospital. the investigation is still on going. at an unknown location in the bayview, the victim transported himself to the hospital after being shot in the face. he did not provide any information, including the location of the shooting. we have been unable to locate where the shooting occurred at this time, and that

investigation is on going. a firearm was recovered in the victim's car, but that's as much as we have at this point. retail theft incidents, two occurred on april 15. four subjects committed an organized retail theft incident at two walgreens within minutes of each other. no officers or any of the

subjects were witness to this incident, but the suspects were tied to a burglary that occurred on thursday, april 14, so really good arrests by our officers. a robbery with a firearm. a robbery occurred on 19 in the taraval. on april 10, central officers located the suspect vehicle in the bayview district, and a warrant was retained.

-- other suspect, a total of four, were taken into custody in connection to all of the incidents that i just mentioned. during the course of the investigation, it was discovered that the suspects were going to oakland to switch vehicles, with four returning to san francisco. all suspects are involved in the investigation, and very good arrests by our police officers. and then, the last incident, we are up in total part one crime 10%. that's really being driven by our property crime, with about a 2,000 larsly crime increase over this time last year.

that's -- larceny crime increase over this time last year. we will continue to focus on our violent crime as well as our property crime, and we'll keep the commission and public posted on progress. that is my report for today. >> vice president elias: thank you. commissioner hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. good evening, chief. >> chief scott: good evening. >> commissioner hamasaki: so obviously, you know, the big story or discussion this week is the arrests of the two sfpd officers and one former officer still working at the department. let me start with a question

that one of the callers asked, which was why were details omitted from the sfpd press release regard specifically regarding the introduction of credit cards, meth, and then also, the nature of the theft of the submachine gun? why was that decision made? >> chief scott: generally, commissioner, on these types of investigations, we coordinate our timing of our

investigation. it was an sfpd investigation from start to finish, and a -- what we had to do was report the pernent information, which i believe we did, so there's no intent to hide anything here. that investigation was exactly what was described. >> commissioner hamasaki: well, i think what the concern wasny, you know, we received a press release. it involved the charges, the warrant seeking the arrest, but it didn't really address the

arrest. one of the big issues has been the culture, and i think the caller alluded to that or maybe specifically stated that, which has been something that's been in the news a lot. heather has written a series of stories in the chronicle detailing the efforts of sfpd officers to respond to crime, write reports, kind of dissuading people by saying the d.a. isn't going to do anything. and in this case, we have a veteran officer, 21 years involved, doing exactly what people have been concerned about, which is, you know, not

doing their job. i mean, i guess -- excuse me. i think it would have been helpful to release that, but it also speaks to the broader cultural issue. you know, we've been discussing this for many years now, that we're changing all these policies and making all these advances, and we're still seeing the same types of issues arise, and maybe more so over the last year that it's been in the media. >> one of the ways to address that type of behavior is to hold people accountable.

the case was presented to the district attorney's office. there's an administrative investigation that's happening that may be coming before this commission. i don't know how you can hold officers more accountable than what's happened during this investigation. as far as the culture, there's always a concern about how widespread of this, but at the end of that concern comes what are the actions of officers that give us an indication? when we find out about an action, either impose the

discipline or recommend the to the police commission. policy wise, the things that this department has done over the last few years, i think we have a way to tighten up the order those are the ways that you effectively address a police culture, accountability, consistency, strong policies, and i think we're doing that. with the commission's help, i think we're doing that. when officers conduct this type

of kbafr, it's not condoned by this organization, and that's -- conduct this type of behavior, it's not condoned by this organization, and that's the biggest thing that we can takeaway from this investigation. >> commissioner hamasaki: it just seems like, you know, we've been doing and going down this road, and what we're seeing this year is the way that this happened so openly or

apparently openly suggests that this path or method of changing the culture hasn't worked. >> chief scott: well, being that you've been working this for five years and i've been living this for 40 years, i respectfully disagree. it's not like when this commission gets the evidence or the department gets the evidence, it's not like we don't hold anyone accountable. i think you have seen the

change, as well, just by the cases that come in front of this commission. >> commissioner hamasaki: i think my fellow commissioners will have to carry on that discussion, but the other question that i have was the destruction of evidence case happened in june or july of last year, and the machine gun case happened in august. why were these not brought until now? why was the public not notified? why were arrests not made? they don't look like cases with any degree of complexity. you know, this is my day job. i get cases like these that are investigated, arrests made, charges filed in three days. what is -- >> chief scott: so i know you

haven't seen the case yet. cases were investigated, they were investigated briefly, they were investigated within the statute. don't want to misquote myself. august 9 was when the inventory was done. august 12, 2021. this is the first case, the williams case. we talked about eight months from start to finish, and an investigation was done in six months. we consider that definitely satisfactory. we consider that a good thing. within a year is definitely

what needs to happen, and we are well within that time, so i -- i don't know what your question is going to, but i think seven, eight months for this type of investigation is perfectly reasonable, and i don't think it's anything to be ashamed of. we also have other cases that we have to investigate. this is a matter of managing the cases and trying to get them done in an appropriate manner and time, which all of those were done in these investigations. >> commissioner hamasaki: i think, you know, when you look at the destruction of evidence, you have the hotel staff, you do some interviews, you have a case -- >> chief scott: well, with all due respect -- >> commissioner hamasaki: do

you mind? let me finish. the question is, for all of this time that the department was aware that these officers had committed crimes or alleged to have committed crimes, from july, but was their duty modifies at the outset? >> chief scott: yes, yes. >> commissioner hamasaki: but you made the decision at that time to take them off the street. >> chief scott: yes. >> commissioner hamasaki: but you couldn't bring it to the district attorney and file charges? . >> chief scott: not until the investigation was complete, that's correct. >> commissioner hamasaki: you know, what triggered it for me was how the department was so eager to litigate the m.o.u. issue mid trial and create an

issue within the d.a.s office, which kind of cuts the other way. when you had something where you were so eagerly will i gaiting it through the public in press releases, and you're sitting -- eagerly litigating it through the public in press releases, and you're sitting on cases in the department, it doesn't create a very good look. >> chief scott: do you want me to respond to that? >> commissioner hamasaki: if you have one. >> chief scott: we have a procedure. we have a caseload. the case was done, beginning to end, in eight months, including

charges filed. i don't know under any stretch of imagination that anyone can characterize that as sitting on a case. >> commissioner hamasaki: i think, were there witnesses -- you know, it's a -- i don't know. this is, like, a one-witness case, hotel staff. hey, this is, like, what these guys did. okay. we take reports, we take statements. >> well, it's not a one-witness case, and i think we'll get into an area where it may come before this commission. >> commissioner hamasaki: not coming before me. >> chief scott: well, i'm not going to jeopardize investigation by discussing

this further. >> i'm sorry. if we're going to keep discussing this, i'd like to agendize this. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. that's all of my questions. >> vice president elias: chief, can we get the dates of the case? >> chief scott: august 9 was the first, and july 3. >> vice president elias: when were they taken off of duty? july 3? >> chief scott: july 3 was when the internal affairs case was assigned, but when it came to my attention, that's when they were taken out. >> vice president elias: oh, they were taken out before the case assignment date?

>> chief scott: it could have been july 2 or 1 or so when i found out about it and hoarded them out of the field. >> vice president elias: and they were assigned to d.o.c.? >> chief scott: nonpublic contact, either records or d.o.c. >> commissioner hamasaki: one final question. were brady procedures met at this point in time? >> chief scott: it does go to the brady committee. they evaluate it, and if it meets the criteria and is appropriate, the district attorney's office is notified. >> commissioner hamasaki: so the d.a.s office was notified for any open cases that these

officers were involved in? >> chief scott: the way that works is when we make a notification that there's brady material, the d.a.s office does what they need to do for those items, but our office is notified that there's potential brady material. >> commissioner hamasaki: was this a d.p.a. case? >> chief scott: if there is d.p.a. material, d.p.a. is notified. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. i didn't know if this fell within things that they would investigate, as well. >> chief scott: no. the public didn't come forward. >> vice president elias: that's why d.p.a. didn't investigate, because the public didn't come

forward? >> chief scott: yes. >> vice president elias: commissioner yee? >> commissioner yee: thank you, vice president cindy elias. i met with urban alchemy, and one of the things they asked me was if staffing could continue at that level. me and commissioner jim byrnes was out there. nice day, sunny day, and it's great what they're doing, working with police. we walked from 200 mcallister to golden gate and hyde, and it was a pleasant surprise to me. i worked in this district 40 years and all conditions of the city, and i was pleased with

what i saw today. i was hoping that you could continue that staffing, and i hope the community, as well, appreciates it. do you have anything else you would like to add? >> commissioner byrne: one of the people brought it to our attention that allegedly 15 drug dealers were operating and seven alchemy approached them, and they called the police who

would not respond because there was no active drug dealing going on. as you're aware, chief, there has been an incident involving an alchemy employee already. they're doing good work in the tenderloin, and the fact that they have no weapons, not even a baton, is critical to their success in changing the neighborhood. i promised the alchemy people that i would raise that with you tonight. >> chief scott: thank you, commissioner. if i could comment on that. alchemy does good work, but they're not officers. we have a really good

relationship with them. it has helped, but that issue that you just raised --

>> commissioner byrne: second question related back to the two officers involved in the marriott incident, is it true that the two officers approached the marriott for the investigation and not the d.a.s office? >> it originated from a call to service, but it originated from the actual tenderloin command, and it was discovered after he looked into the incident. >> commissioner byrne: so -- so because the m.o.u. being in the news the last few months, it's important -- so the d.a. was not involved in any investigation. as you stated earlier, you turned over the investigation to the district attorney's office. >> chief scott: yes. there was no use of force or anything like that, but it was

believed to be inappropriate conduct, so that's why it was handled that way. >> commissioner byrne: okay. thank you. >> vice president elias: any other questions? okay. public comment. >> clerk: at this time, public is welcome to make public comment on matters associated with item 3, the chief's report. at this time, you may lineup at the podium or press star, three. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> yes. this is david elliott lewis again. i wanted to thank the chief for his report, but i think i just want to comment -- as a member of the public, listening to the commissioners asking pointed questions, i think those questions need to be addressed, and i'm not sure they were all fully addressed. i understand investigations need to be done before charges

can be brought, but sometimes these investigations can be drawn out way too long, sometimes almost a year. we want to create as much trust in the public and what the police are doing, so i think speedy investigations, transparency, speedy reportings all help to create that trust and encourage the public to want to cooperate with the police and help out, and regarding urban alchemy, it's a work in progress. they're not meant to be more friendly police officers, they're meant to be ambassadors, and i think that needs to be understood what their role it and -- is and what their role isn't. that's all.

david elliott lewis. thank you. >> clerk: vice president elias, that was the end of public comment. >> vice president elias: next item. >> clerk: item 4, d.p.a. director's report. report on recent d.p.a. activities and announcements. d.p.a.s report will be limited to a brief description of d.p.a. activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meetings. >> my name is diane rosenfield, and i am with the d.p.a. i will go over some stats and answer any questions that you may have. at this time, the stats look a little bit down compared to stats from last year. we've opened 186 cases and closed 184, compared to 233 and

304 last year. we currently have 277 cases pending. last year at this time, we had 295. we have sustained ten cases so far. last year, we sustained 20. we mediated six cases. last year, we mediated seven around this time. currently, we have 12 individual cases pending with the commission and six cases pending with the chief for a decision. in terms of weekly trends, this week, we've received 14 cases. 15% of the allegations in those cases involve an officer behaving or having in a manner that is unbecoming an officer.

7% have to do with an officer issuing an invalid order. 7% have to do with an officer failing to writing an incident report, 7% have to do with failure to investigate, and last but not least, 7% have to do with an officer conducting an improper search or seizure. these cases are spread out among central, southern, bayview, mission, and park station as well as tenderloin and one coming out of the airport. i believe the stats specific to each station have been provided to sergeant youngblood, who is going to put them on-line. the audit will look to three years of data and focus on

sfpds handling misconduct investigations, which we are excited about. it has to do with their handling of officer bias and their compliance with reporting requirements for misconduct investigations. d.p.a. has notified the police department and police commission of this via e-mail on april 13. in terms of operations, we had a kick-off meeting for our civic bridge project. it's an excellent program sponsored, i believe, by the mayor's office where different agencies are paired up with the private sector, and they are going to help us create an on-line system where our complainants will be able to track their complaints on-line which is great, because a lot of times, they're calling and their investigator may not be

available, they may not get the information in time. i believe there's other innovations, i don't know, but you'll have to ask director henderson next time he's here. in terms of outreach, on april 12, d.p.a. conducted outreach at the virtual safety meeting. i have been in touch with lieutenant wilhelm from i.a. unfortunately, the training that we have developed in conjunction with i.a. to basically roll out to the different stations, what we do and how we do it may have to be bumped because the new d.g.o. training may bump that. going to have a lot of busy wednesdays, so i will not be able to see you.

in closed session, we have two cases, and we currently, in the audience, have a senior investigator in our office. if there are any issues, anyone can contact him, and if you need to contact us, the public can call 415-241-7711 or find us at www.sf.org/dpa. i have a few agenda items, but i'll reserve my comments when those items are called, and i'll be sure to put my name in the queue. if you have any questions -- >> vice president elias: i do. you said there were six cases past the seven-month mark that were told? >> yes.

>> vice president elias: do we have any indication when they were done or if there's any 3304 issues? >> i don't know because i didn't create these numbers, but i can certainly go back to the office and crack the whip. >> vice president elias: 7% for invalid order, 7% for failure to write a report, and then, 7% for illegal search? >> correct. that is how the cases aligned that we got. >> vice president elias: okay. commissioner yanez? >> commissioner yanez: thank you, vice president elias, chief, everyone in standing. i do have questions about -- you know, this has been an on going line of questions. the chief's point, one of the accountability measures that we

have is the department of police accountability, and i'm wondering, considering that some of the consistent allegations, 7%, failure to write reports or investigate have to do with certain officers not necessarily following through with, you know, requests to investigate. you know, there's an inherent deterrent there in my mind when we're asking these same people to go to the same police stations to inquire about how to file a report. i've had this conversation with director henderson, how can we improve, right, the mechanisms for reporting, and obviously, going on-line make it easier, but not all constituents are as savvy as far as documenting or submitting their complaints on-line, so i'm interested in finding out what else is being

explored to be able to capture as many of these reports as possible, and that's for you, diana. and then, for the chief, is there a mechanism in place to, you know, maybe a control mechanism to be able to capture when people -- when community members come to a station, request information about how to file a report, and then, knowing that that report -- in order to preserve confidentiality, in order to preserve, you know, the nature of the process, is there a way to log those reports and then cross-reference with d.p.a. to make sure that the reports are actually making it to d.p.a., and so i guess those are my two questions about how to improve the system.

>> thank you for that. i'll answer that first. i do know in every station there is a display right in front of every station that displays clearly how to file a complaint with our office. i also note that a d.g.o. lays out what an officer is supposed to do when they're out in the field. there's a memo that's supposed to be file, superior officers that are supposed to be contacted, and we have a steady stream of complaints that come in from sfpd where an officer has taken that complaint and forwarded it to our office --

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. >> -- can you please follow up if you have anything else that i need to address?

>> commissioner yanez: thank you. that was very helpful. the more that i think we promote this to the public and spread the word, the better. >> i agree. >> chief scott: commissioner, when a member of the public comes in and asks how to file a complaint, we don't track that, but if they come in and file a complaint, we track that. >> commissioner yanez: and that is part of the question.

i'm wondering, if when those people come in, there's a way to say boom, we checked it, we made a referral, and then follow up with that department within that week, say, let's say, and then hey, did you get these eight referrals or recommendations for where to fill out that form, right? that would be one way to just capture a number that is maybe a data point that will be important. >> chief scott: that's something that we're following and can see what the result will be. >> commissioner yanez: thank you. we know there's situations where the body-worn camera

captured exactly what the officer was supposed to do. but then, maybe, the option of being able to turn on the body-worn cameras at all times so the public knows there's true transparency and accountability. >> vice president elias: commissioner yee? >> commissioner yee: yeah, thank you very much, madam vice president. d.p.a., i just want to thank you because on-line, you have it in english, spanish, chinese, and i believe tagalog.

i was curious if you were ae -- if you were going to be more inclusive on-line, including other languages? >> thank you for that. so the divali alatorre act requires police departments to check into their communities and see the languages that should be covered. don't quote me, but i know we have the five that should be

covered. when it comes to our files and forms, they are in multiple languages. in addition, we hire investigators that are bilingual that do provide services in different languages. i can think of at least four or five that are currently represented, and we do have an account and provide translation whenever needed. >> vice president elias: thank you. public comment. >> clerk: thank you. at this time, we'll take public comment. if you'd like to make public comment, please lineup at the podium or press star, three.

hello, caller, you have two minutes. >> okay. hello. could i order a large pizza with pepperoni, sausage, onions, bell pepper, mushrooms, oh, but no anchovies. got all that? happy 4-20. >> clerk: vice president elias, that concludes public comment. >> vice president elias: next item, please. >> clerk: item 5, commission reports.

commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting. commission president's report and commissioners' reports. commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. action item. >> vice president elias: thank you. commissioner byrnes? >> commissioner byrne: thank you. when i met with urban alchemy, they asked me if i could agendize this so the department can explain what's going on in the evening time.

as an aside, they're very happy with what's going on in the daytime. i've never seen so many kids at the corner of hyde and turner -- [indiscernible] -- hyde and golden gate? in any event, it was a pleasure to see so many kids out there, but i'm still concerned about the evening time and the night time. thank you. >> vice president elias: thank you. any other -- commissioner yee? >> commissioner yee: yeah, i

just want to thank -- madam vice president cindy elias, thank you. i want to thank commissioner byrnes for coming out with me to hastings and urban alchemy. it's amazing what the community can have out there with this organization, urban alchemy, that is an asset to our city. they're not only making it safe there, but they've been there for about five years, and it's been really challenging. the reason why i'm giving the props is i asked one of the workers from urban alchemy, his

name was luis, and i says luis, do you carry narcan? he said yes, i do. i said, how many have you administered? he said in one year, it was 113. we have to applaud them, we have to give them resources, and working with the police department, so very happy to be working with that. thank you. >> vice president elias: commissioner hamasaki, this is your last meeting. what i appreciate the most is you have never backed down from

difficult topics or conversations or bringing issues before this commission. i wish you well. i know that you're going to be very sad to leave us, as of all of us are sad to see you go. so with that, you have the floor, but you're also in the queue. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you for that, acting president elias. i want to say a quick thank you to -- to a lot of the people that helped. commissioner elias and i joined four years ago, and i think we all come to paths in our lives where we've got to make a

decision, but i did want to thank the commission staff. we have a pretty new commission, and things have gotten pretty wild here, but they've always pulled together to get items prepared in time for meetings. i'd like to thank the city attorney's office, both on time and discipline. we have not always agreed, but i do appreciate miss cabrera's work here and think in difficult times she's always helped guide us through. it's difficult on commission because most of the people that i serve with aren't here

anymore. i came to this commission with a lot of hopes in my ability to make some positive changes for the department and for our city, and, you know, i think we've succeeded in a lot of ways. i'm proud on the work that we've done around domestic violence, hard of hearing, use of force. i've looked at my folder, and there's literally thousands of research documents that we've worked with alongside our partners to get things done, especially our partners in d.p.a., paul henderson, the -- samara, who we miss dearly every day, and most of all, the community, who i was lucky to be able to make a lot of

connections during my time here and before. to the chief, i think we're in a little bit difficult spot here, and i think the reason for me it's bitter sweet is we've made a lot of good changes. i think we have done good work, but ultimately, i don't know that we've changed the culture. you know, i think that the culture is improving, but these new incidents just build on other incidents, which leads me to believe that maybe it's not working here, so maybe it's a time for a new approach. i'm grateful to all the commissioners here that are willing to serve, to the city governments for having put me in this position. again, some people who i don't always agree with, but i think in each, in our own ways, have

been trying to do the right thing. so, you know, tonight, i would just say thank you and encourage my fellow commissioners, the department, the members of the department to continue striving to be better. to the members, you know, i think it's tough because there are good people in the department that get up every day and try to make the city better. my beef has been with the police union and the culture they instill, and i hope that the good people within the department with change that culture -- can change that culture and get us out of what's troubled this city and this department for too many years now. and with that, look forward to

the rest of the agenda, and it's been an honor. thank you. >> vice president elias: commissioner yanez? >> commissioner yanez: thank you, vice president. i want to thank commissioner hamasaki for bringing the firework and helping this commission help the chief look like what changes can be for the department and for the changes to gain traction. i know that enormous systems like the police department take time to reform. i know you're six years deep into this work, and you have the right intentions, and there

are some valuable lessons to be learned, and the only way we're going to learn them is by having these conversations. thank you for raising them in the way that you did. we all have our own style and flavor, and it will be missed. and i do want to make sure to agendize, two items. i just want to make sure, last week, i brought up the community policing d.g.o. for reference on an agenda item. and i know that there are -- i've talked to a couple of groups that have raised the potential for considering all of the challenges that we have with that may not necessarily merit a police response.

i know that there was a big effort in time, investment in researching a program called c.a.r.t. i believe that commissioner hamasaki was very involved with that, and i'd like to agendize that for the future months, because i really do believe we need to look on the outside of the department for more solutions. it does not necessarily mean that we're supporting the department, but i think the more things we could takeoff of your plate would be a good direction and use of our resources, so that would be my request. >> vice president elias: thank you. acting director rosenstein? >> thank you. on behalf of the d.p.a., we would like to thank commissioner hamasaki for all of his work on this commission. thank you.

>> vice president elias: thank you. chief? >> chief scott: thank you. i know we don't always agree, but i want to thank you for all your work these last four years. i know every one of you have full time jobs and family responsibilities, so although i know we have, i will call it creative tensions from time to time, i do appreciate your work and appreciate what you've done to help us move forward, so appreciate everything that you've done. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. >> vice president elias: sergeant, public comment? >> clerk: at this time, the public is welcome to make comment on-line item 5. at this time, if you'd like to make public comment, you can approach the podium or press star, three. good evening, caller. you have two minutes.

>> good evening. david elliott lewis. one of the projects that i've been working on the last four years is what i called c.a.r.t., and it's compassionate alternate response team. it's not to compete with police, but it's to see priority, 911 or 311 calls that involve homeless issues where the priority could be up and down -- could be panhandling, blocked doorways, things where the h.o.t. team would be sent to if they're available, but

often, they're not. a c.a.r.t. team would be dispatched within 15 minutes, and it would do the work that many police officers don't want to do. they want to do police work and not social work. it's traumatizing to be homeless, and they create trauma, too, because of their life. so this is a solution, and i hope you're -- funding has been allocated, but no requests for proposal have been issued yet. it's in the department of emergency management, but it would be great to look at c.a.r.t. and see how they would help police. david elliott lewis. thank you very much. >> clerk: president elias, that is the end of public comment.

>> vice president elias: thank you. item 6. >> clerk: item 6, presentation of the annual crisis intervention team, c.i.t., end of year report 2021, discussion. pursuant to police commission resolution number 11-18, the department shall provide a report to the commission that includes number of location of calls for service, type of response, disposition of all, whether or not force was used, injuries, complaints or commend indications or legal actions arising from the incident, status of all mental health crisis response training, recommendations to enhance sfpds response to incidents involving mentally ill individuals. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is rachel moran, and i'm commander of the golden gate division, and i work with mark molina. since 2011, san francisco

police department's crisis intervention team is committed to the compassionate engagement of people in crisis while ensuring public safety, combining best practices of other agencies. the award winning san francisco crisis intervention team is regarding as an national model within law enforcement. lieutenant molina's going to go ahead and give a year end report, but i just want to commend the work that our c.i.t. department has done. it's changed the way we do policing and the way that we handle people in crisis. so without further adieu, lieutenant mario molina, crisis police officer this charge.

>> good evening. thank you, it's all a pleasure to come before you and present the wonderful work that our officers are doing every day. our officers go out there every day with only one intention. that's to serve and protect our community, so tonight, i will have the privilege to tell you about the work they're doing, how they're doing it, and how this came about. i just want to commend you because the people that are seating where you're sitting tonight decided to pass resolution 18 back in 2011, asking the police department to create a training. at the time, it was called crisis intervention career training. when i took over in 2014, we had a lot of work to do. chief scott joined us a couple of years later, and the work

continues. the main core of the crisis intervention training is to train our officers to respond to people in crisis calls for service with the utmost respect, with empathy, with dignity, and to establish a report with the person that's affected by mental health. what are the goals of the san francisco crisis intervention team? first, it's deescalation. you hear people saying, deescalation situation. well, it takes two to deescalate something. the officers will offer deescalate to an individual, and the person has to effect it. has to accept the deescalation for the officer to continue with their goals of

deescalation. we have to understand that concept. the second is to reduce the necessity for the use of force. we all agree jail is not the answer, especially when the person is suffering from mental illness because that's when mitigating factors apply when police officers sometimes get called to incidents. i'll move forward to the next slide. so our training is four

components. i will get into each of those components as i speak. the training started back in 2011. we had trained about 200 san francisco police officers when i took over. as of now, we have trained over 1400 police officers. we also trained civilians. we do training for the mercy house staff. we train civilians for the department of public health, and we're looking forward to commissioner yanez, to have you there in may. we know that commissioner elias has been there. always looking for support from the commission when it comes to training. we have 67% of our police force

training in c.i.t. best practices across the united states is 20%. let me say that again. in any police department in the united states, they're hoping to train 20% of the force. the san francisco police department has trained 67%, and we'll continue to, with the training, with the support of the command staff, and our supervisor, commander moran, we'll continue to do this. we just had our first training in 2022, and we're going to have our second training next week. we also created a deescalation and field intervention

training. [indiscernible] all you hear is drop the weapon, drop the knife, and everybody is saying the same thing. so what we teach our officers is only one person talks. if the person is in crisis, only one person, because that person might be afflicted by mental illness. they might have internal voices in their head, they might not understand what's going on. that's the core training that we -- sergeant [indiscernible], what's here, put together in

2016, and we had trained 100% of our officers. and chief scott has gone through the training, the command staff has gone through the training. that's 100% of those officers that have gone through those files. we have a partnership, department of public health. back in 2016, then mayor ed lee funded them to help train them on how to respond to crisis negotiation calls so they

understand what the police practices and tactics are when we respond to people. we also do a meeting every month where i meet with my working group and the clinicians to discuss what has been going on. they also respond to people in crisis. for instance, if we have a situation where a person has attempted suicide and they're on the top of the roof, which is the picture that you guys are seeing right now, i will contact the department of public health, i would alert them what's going on, i will request for the department of public health to provide me whatever information they have, if they know the name of the individual, and we use that information to create what we call hopes and figures. whatever information we have on this person, we use. they will have access to

[indiscernible] site services. this is a governing code that allows us to do this so we bypass hipaa. all this information is provided to us, and we provide it to the negotiators who are dealing with the person in crisis. our goal is to meet them where they at. you have to meet people where they at, and what's going on at the time. we have a [indiscernible]

program where c.i.t. field unit provides supportive assistan to neighborhoods. it's the officers that will respond to these calls, and we create a system where they report back to us if they need support from our unit. david lewis was called in -- calling in earlier. we are fortunate to work with nami, mental health advocates. i'm going to leave this slide by itself. i'm just going to give you in a nutshell, it takes about the

abuse of the police officers, especially the men and women of the san francisco police department has been confusing. i'm glad to be back here, talking with you, but i think we need to realize that police officers are human beings. when we talk about police officers, just remember, they are men and women in san francisco -- there are men and women in san francisco that have responded to secondary trauma, responding to shootings, stabbings, child sexual abuse. you name it, they have it, and we expected so much of them, and they rise to the challenge every day. i get very emotional every day because they're out there every day, and we ask you that you

support our officers. >> vice president elias: thank you, sergeant molina. i've had the pleasure of observing the working group and i think i've been to the awards ceremony, as well, that c.i.t. has received, which was really outstanding and really great to see, the great work and what you're teaching the officers. so i commend you for your hard work because i know this is not easy, and this is something that you've been pushing and spear heading for the last few years. thank you for all of your hard work. i have one question. you said that we're in compliance of 67%, but when do you think that we'll be in full

compliance, 100%? >> i'm not sure, vice president elias. we're so short staffed, it's hard to take officers off the street and do training. i've been saying five years for five years. the real answer is i don't know right now. we have training schedules on page 5, the following page, and we're hoping to get the officers in classrooms as the staffing allows, and that's our goals. i know chief scott, my supervisor, commander moran, deputy chief lozar, that's one of the goals that we have. let's get the officers trained. >> vice president elias: and does it have to be consecutive

40 hours or can they break it up? >> it depends. it's two days in person and two days on zoom. we try not to do that, but we'll accommodate officers if need to. >> vice president elias: thank you. again, congratulations. commissioner yanez? >> commissioner yanez: thank you, vice president elias, and thank you for your presentation. i actually went through the whole document, and it is very thorough, and i'm really he impressed by the progress that has been made, and i'm really going to kind of chime in on the same subject. i would love for the whole department to be trained. i have a back field myself, and i've seen the deescalation, their approach to training, and i think your numbers basically merit us investing and fast tracking the training of all

the officers. when i looked at the use of force incidents, you were right, there were not many, but 23 of these 75 officers were not c.i.t. trained. that's a large number, and i think if we got the full department trained, we could decrease that number even more. next, i often wonder when the chief have presented an evaluation for a use of force investigation, whether there is a mental health consultation

that is embedded in that process to really evaluate the impact of that impact and the vicarious impact that it may have on those officers. if you could speak to that a little bit? >> yeah. i was in charge of the behavioral science unit of the police department from 2014 to 2016, so i've saw that. i've seen officers involved in shootings or any other type of traumatic experience. so we go to the incident, and we talk to him or her. there's some privacy matters with hipaa, and so i can't really get that deep into it, but we have about 25 clinicians

that the officers have access to. that's a program provided by the city and county of san francisco. it's funded by the officers. each officer has access to at least ten visits with the clinician. their loved ones and children also have access. because remember, i said when you're affected by mental health or trauma, there's the symptoms, there's so much going on with that. when we talk about the officers, that's what we offer. >> commissioner yanez: i'm glad to hear that.

i would encourage officers that, you know, have had that impact to access that support. let they guard down for a second, and i think that is part of really improving our outcomes is having a healthy workforce. the other question i do have, just because this number really stood out for me. in the use of force incidents, of the 75 officers, there was a chart there that broke them down by ethnicity, and it just kind of popped out that 38 of the 75 were white officers, and so when we think about disparities and biases, the numbers speak to that. is there any special delving into this group or any additional training that you guys are thinking of

implementing to address this because that's a really large number. >> i'm not going to get into the racial part of it, but i can assure you, the majority, if you look at the demographics of the san francisco police department, the demographics are disproportionately white people. >> commissioner yanez: i saw that 10% involved were latino, 10% were african american, and about 50%. is that the use of the force right now? >> it is. i think you can look at my report, and i have the breakdown. the majority are white

officers, so by dwrault, it's more than likely a white -- by default, it's more than likely a white officer will respond to this. all of us have implicit bias in everything that we choose every day, so that's what we teach

the officers, and what it becomes when you choose to start acting on that. i don't get into the racial divide of it, but i can assure you it doesn't matter to me when i'm dealing with a latino officer, a white officer, an asian officer, or an african american, all of my efforts are well intended. >> vice president elias: acting director rosenstein? >> thank you. good evening, lieutenant molina. good to see you. >> thank you. >> we at d.p.a. want to acknowledge the amazing work that the c.i.t. team does. i want to also point out some of the things we are working on with the c.i.t. team currently. we are participating in a subcommittee to revise an order

involving juveniles. we're looking forward to working with the c.i.t. group on that particular general order, and on behalf of the d.p.a. -- and personally, i want to thank you. i want to thank sergeant anderson who is in the audience. i have a list here from miss caywood, who's the director of policy. lily pulinger. >> can you come up here. >> absolutely. they deserve the recognition as well as sergeant lara killeen. i hope i said that right. >> you said it right. >> thank you on behalf of d.p.a. for working with us and for collaborating on these issues that are very important to our community. >> thank you so much for that. if i can get a second to introduce my sergeant and my

officer. unfortunately, the other ones are not able to come. you have sergeant [indiscernible] anderson. he is a big supporter in the training coordinator. sergeant anderson designed the field tactics class. he and i took a trip to seattle to see what seattle p.d. was doing. thank you for don to do what he's done. next to him, [indiscernible] just the one that suggested that and was put into policy. i have sergeant [indiscernible] here in person.

she's saw some. she is the one that connects the contact training. you have officer manfreddi, who's not here. shaun delgado, who is the last addition to our team. last but not least, our commander, moran, who's here, and she supports everything that we do. she says yes. deputy chief lozar, who's my boss, and commander fong. those are my immediately supervisors, and of course, chief scott who's been the driving force behind this, and the men and women of san francisco. [applause] >> vice president elias: chief scott?

>> chief scott: thank you. i was just going to do what he said. i don't think he mentioned carlos manfreddi, but i wanted to mention him, as well. the work that has been going on since 2011, we really do respond differently to these critical incidents, and slowing down tim and distance, getting the right resources and all the things that have caused the vast majority of these incidents with good outcomes, and also passing the awards to d.g.o., this is not -- we need to highlight and lift that up, too, so rewarding the good work in that type of way is a big

thing, so thank you to the commission, and i know we thank rachel kilshaw publicly last week, but these are the main stays. this unit, this crew has been there pretty much, at least through my time here, led by lieutenant molina, so that's just the stability of this work that is culture, transperformation, and progress, so i just want to thank them for that work. >> vice president elias: thank you. acting director anderson? >> thank you. first, i wanted to thank the officer who helped me learn about c.i.t. i know she's retired, but maybe she's listening. sergeant krueger did a fantastic job in this program and really helped me understand c.i.t., so if she's around, i want to thank her, as well.

>> vice president elias: commissioner yanez? >>. >> commissioner yanez: the only question i had was with the summary, there was 27,272. i just want to know how many of these calls would have come to sfpd if the teams weren't at capacity? >> may i explain that, chief? thank you for bringing that up. i just walked out of a supervisor's budget and

legislative analyst's subcommittee this evening -- or this afternoon, actually. the city has created approximately ten things that are going to -- the intention is to replace the police department and responding to the crisis. that's an on going program. i've been working with the fire department and the department of public health to accomplish this. it's a long process. you have to remember that the number of calls for service has been simulated by the department for the last ten, 15 years. i think there was at least according to their reporting --

so basically, if you look at the 800 series, if you can look at my presentation, i wouldn't know what page it is, but it would look like this. that's about 15,000 calls that our officers respond to that, so they've gone to about 7,000 calls in response to that. some of those numbers are duplicates because the police department's have also responded to those calls, and they're doing the best they can. they're in the process of staffing their ambulance, and they have to [indiscernible] that the program has been in place, and the reduction, just to be fair to them, obviously, they have gone to numerous calls, but the reduction that

the san francisco police department has seen, it's only 2,636 calls. so what that means to us in the police department is that we're still going to calls for service regarding a person in mental health distress. there's a lot of work to done, i and i there's fantastic response to all the work in the -- and i think there's fantastic response to all the work going on in the city. it's very frustrating to all of us to see it happening, and it has to change. it's a broken system of mental health in the city. the city has to change in how

we respond to those calls. >> commissioner yanez: thank you, and that's the reason why i wanted to raise this. i think the public will benefit by understanding the dynamics especially when we have a large section of the population, whether they live here or transitionally or living on the streets, they come with lots of orders, mental health issues, substance abuse issues, and we need to be mindful of their leads. police responds is not necessarily what you call want to do, but i this that partnership is important, as well as scaling these other programs, these other efforts, so that we use the resources more effectively, and so our -- i have a commitment to speak

about this in as many spaces as possible and reach out to other departments as possible. thank you for your work. >> thank you. >> vice president elias: thank you. public comment -- go ahead. >> chief scott: thank you. i just want to say we are in full support of that model. i just wanted to clarify one thing, commissioner yanez, whatever the b.s.u., behavioral science unit responds to, it's a separate unit than c.i.t. lieutenant molina used to run that unit several years ago, but it's a separate unit. >> clerk: at this time, the public is welcome to make public comment. if you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium or press star, three. good evening, caller.

you have two minutes. >> thank you. this is, again, david elliott lewis, part of the c.i.t. mental health working group since 2014, when lieutenant mario molina joined, and i got a chance to observe this program really in the last eight years, its effects on the department, their policing, and while you might have heard they trained only 63% of the officers, they've actually had an impact way beyond that. more and more, we're hearing about incidents that, say, prior to 2015, [indiscernible] or a serious injury, now resulting in the person being

taken in, and i'm talking about persons brandishing weapons, knives, and the end result was sadly lethal force. my response, when someone pointed a gun at me, was to fire at them in a simulated training. this has taught up to slow down, to build rapport, and to get psychiatric help. it's saved dozens and dozens of lives with [indiscernible] and

lieutenant molina is to be commended. thank you very much. >> clerk: vice president elias, that's the end of public comment. item 7, discussion and possible action regarding the department's claeshs rates. discussion and possible action. >> hello. good evening. members of the commission, chief attorney rosenstein, and chief scott, and members of the public that are watching. my name is -- i'm the acting deputy chief of investigation. i oversee citywide investigations, and we have all the specialized units that are centralized, and we also work with the plain clothes officers

in the city. i just wanted to give you an overview of how cases are assigned and kind of an overview of how cases get to us and how we investigate them. so the initial reports that are taken by the police officer, the police officer does a lot of work on the front end. they're the ones that actually interview the witnesses, they're the ones that initially collect the evidence and make the determination if specialized units need to be called in, such as c.s.i. -- they're the ones that make the notification to our operations center to try to get more help. sometimes they confer with their supervisors, but they do -- when they go out to these calls, they spend time, they

document the incident in a police report. some of the factors that we look at when we ask our officers to do is look for video, look for witnesses. make the identification, so many times, they'll sometimes even collect evidence, casings at shootings where people have not been hit, and so they're critical to how we get the

information. things that they'll look at is they'll look at what type of evidence was present at the scene, how severe the victim's injuries are. sometimes they'll call san francisco general hospital, they'll sometimes even talk to the victim and pick up the phone. they'll look at what c.s.i. collected. they'll sometimes even look at video. they'll view video, they'll view body-worn camera, and they'll make a determination if the case is assignable or not. and if they do that, couple of the internal factors they're looking at is if it's a workup, what kind of evidence is present, and they'll look at how many investigators that

they have to be able to work the case. sometimes we'll have to confer with attorneys and get advice before the case is assigned. once the case is assigned, sometimes they'll give the investigator a few days just to see where the case goes. it depends if there's video, witnesses, and that's usually the internal factors. the external, they'll look at the area, what kind of neighborhood a crime occurred at. was it residential, commercial, if they notice it's part of a

crime series or to give you an example, if there's a certain number of carjackings occurring in that area or that corridor, even if that specific report doesn't meet the threshold criteria, they'll assign it to an investigation as a parallel investigation. the other thing is they'll talk to the victim to see what the victim wants to happen. they would confer with the district attorney or workup the case for an arrest warrant if they can get to an identification. couple of things they'll work at. if it's a violent crime such as

shootings, homicides, some cases where there's group violence, they'll work with community partners, advocates on domestic violence cases, and partners such as california partners for a safe community, svip, and going through that, so they'll even look at referrals. sometimes if there's an arrest that can't be made, but if they can connect the victim to victims' services, they'll do that. they'll also reach out to the captain of the district because some crimes impact a large area, a business district or residential district. they'll reach out to the captain and say this is the update on our investigation. these are the arrests we've made, or this is where the case is at, and the captain does the

outreach on their end if it's community meetings. we also see if there's anything on our investigative end to see if there's anything that can change the field patterns of deployment, etc. so i looked at the national levels, san francisco, oakland, san jose, los angeles, new orleans, and seattle. pretty much if you look at the solvability of those agencies, our agency, national, we're pretty much in the ballpark. instead of looking at the totality, i also looked at two specific crimes. robberies, last quarter, 21% were cleared. homicides were one of the highest numbers for solvability

on that. you'll look at sometimes our robbery rate is higher for solvability than other agencies. sometimes it's lower, but it is within that general ballpark for crimes. this year, it's increased to 31% arrests and clearance rate, and we did improve our staffing and robbery from 12 to 15. burglary, they're divided into organized retail theft and auto. general burglaries, we increased our staffing from 21 to 25. we're about in the ballpark of 19% of cases that are approximately assigned. the big factor that i did want to point out to you on this was the difference between 2019 and

2020. for 2021, there was a drop by 200, but it still is a pretty -- we're, like, in the 7,000 range still for burglaries. for homicides, like i said, in 20 -- 2020, we had 79% clearance, 2021, 77%. so the plan -- couple thing be is our biggest resources are supper advisors and staffing, so one of the things is our

station investigations, unfortunately, we couldn't sustain the station investigations at the level of having one at each station. our gang task force was transferred to a community violence reduction team, so they work with california partners, and it's critical. they also are now restructured under investigations as a full -- sorry. i'll try to speed this up. our gun violence unit and our homicide are all under one umbrella. and then major crimes is under one umbrella with robbery, burglary, and narcotics, and our general crimes which has

general work and nine investigations, and that's pretty much the -- the thing i would like to extend to you, the investigators work very hard. some of these cases are resource intensive. they sometimes take thousands of hours of investigations. i look at some of their case files, and they're binders and binders of investigations that sometimes last over months. i just wanted to acknowledge them for their hard work. >> vice president elias: thank you, and thank you for your presentation. i had a few questions for you just so i understand this. the investigation team only comes in after an arrest is made or a report or something is generated so that they can follow up, right? >> not always. so if it's a serious investigation such as a shooting, a stabbing, a serious

stabbing, the investigation center will call up either our night investigations unit or an on-call team that will come in, and they will actually parallel the investigation, so patrol might be doing the work on the crime scene and containing the crime scene. they'll start interviewing the witnesses and start on the case, and they'll keep that case and follow through, and those are for very serious crimes. >> vice president elias: okay. and what i looked at on the dashboard, and what it says in supervisor ronen's letter is there's only 8% of reported crimes last year led to an arrest. that's a really, really low number, and i'm trying to figure out why it's so low, especially coupled with investigations that have been in the news and current arrests. i'm trying to figure out why that's so low. >> chief scott: mike, let me

weigh on this. as i reported earlier, our crime statistics here in san francisco are heavily property driven. larceny year in and year out is our biggest category, no matter if we have crime, and car break-ins are a significant part of that. the vast majority of car break-ins, there's no follow up or significant follow up. when you have that kind of figure, it's going to drive your solve rate down and skew your statistics. now 8% overall, i don't know if you're aware, but we're predominantly a car theft city, and that's what mostly drives our crime rates.

clearance rates, there are things that have to happen for a crime to be cleared. number one, the suspect has to be identified. number two, there has to be an arrest, and that case has to be brought before the prosecutor for charging. if the prosecutor charges the case, the case will be clear. if the prosecutor doesn't charge the case, the case still can be cleared if the circumstances, and this is per the rule, it's brought to the police agency. there's no doubt that that is the person that committed the

crime. didn't get charged in the furtherance of justice. it's no question, is that the person that did it. those cases can be cleared exceptionally. the reason i bring that up is an arrest doesn't necessarily equate to a clearance. they're totally two different things, so i think that's a misconception that a lot of people have. arrest doesn't equal clearance. >> vice president elias: no, and i understand that. it's 8% of reported crimes in 2021 led to an arrest, which is the lowest it's been in the past ten years. while i understand it's your explanation that it's car burglaries and property crimes, the 8.1% is a low rate, and i don't understand why only 8.1% lead to an arrest. >> chief scott: if there's the evidence there to make an

arrest, we'll make an arrest, and if not, we don't. >> vice president elias: do you see any allegations reported on crimes in the news, the failure to investigate, the failure to take reports? are those things that are considered when we look at this 8.1% and how we -- i don't think -- >> chief scott: well, if they're proven true, i think they're definitely problematic. i don't think there's an arrest rate that's going to drive a clearance rate from 8% to 50%. >> vice president elias: but if

officers aren't charging properly or investigating properly, it's never going to have an effect. >> chief scott: i don't have a point of comparison. but what i do know is when you look at the rest of the city over the past decade, it's been a sharp decline over the last 15 years from 30,000-plus arrests to 15,000, and that's been happening for a number of reasons. >> vice president elias: what are they? >> chief scott: number one, there's been a conscious effort to reduce the jail population, and that's on going. that's been a real thing in san francisco. it's been a strategy to try to reduce the jail population. you have changes in law that have resulted -- i'm not saying

they're good or bad, but they're what we're dealing with in terms of how narcotics types of violences are not felonies, they're misdemeanors. >> vice president elias: well, but they're still arrests. >> yes, but in use cases, we've been trying not to arrest and flood the jails. the numbers do ebb and flow, and you look at the call log from ten years ago, and the number of arrests, they're about the same as they were ten years ago. these numbers, the different categories of crime, haven't

changed much. >> vice president elias: right, but i don't want to conflate that with the arrest percentage. even on drug cases, where you say they're diversion eligible, an arrest still needs to be made because you can't go to diverse or any other type of nonjail unless you're arrested. >> you and i were a part of leave. >> vice president elias: yeah, which was a grant that sucked. >> but still, there are strategies that we employ in terms of trying to get people to services rather than arrest them, so those things do have an affect on the amount of arrests. i am pretty certain that we don't have those types of numbers that are due to officers not making arrests or not taking reports or not

conducting investigations. when you look at the percentage of types of complaints from the public, they're very small. so i don't think that's the issue. there probably are other issues, but that's not the rate. i don't think that's going to swing the arrest rates from 8% to 25%, because i think you'd get a lot more public complaints if that were the case. >> vice president elias: well, maybe that's something we need to explore further because 8% doesn't seem acceptable. i would like to know what solutions the department is exploring to increase that, especially since we're getting complaints from the community and the public that they're reporting crimes but nothing's being done. and i know that you -- you discussed earlier in your report about the -- you know, the concern addressing the culture and holding individuals accountable, and one of the things that came to mind is what is being done to change the culture so that we don't

have constant weekly trends from d.p.a. and even numbers from i.a. that are showing neglecting duty failure to investigate because we haven't seeing those numbers come before the commission. when i reviewed i.a. numbers from the last commission, i'm not seeing that coming to your level, either. so how are we changing the culture if there's no discipline for these type of complaints? >> chief scott: well, i think there's at least four before me for those types of complaints. probably more, but four that i can think of. the other piece is the only way to look at this is to look at calls, whether we do a random look at calls or some type of sampling from start to finish and see what that call entails because we can only make the

arrest when there's the evidence there to make the arrest, and not only -- you know this being a former defense attorney, not all cases have that level of evidence, so if there's a situation where our officers aren't doing what they're supposed to do, yes, of course that's going to be misconduct that has to be addressed, but like i said, the number of those types of complaints are very small in comparison to the number of calls that we get every year. it's very small. [please stand by]

>> police chief scott: we just had to recentralize our investigations because we don't even have enough staffing to have the staffing investigations for you these days. so that's going to have an impact when you have 19 general crimes investigators city wide and that definitely has an impact. and this is something i was talking about because i lived

it and i did it and i worked in the '90s. when it gets to busy you can't get to your next homicide because you've got four waiting, of course that's going to affect your clearance rate. often times when i talk about staffing and it gets dismiss or blown off, you have to have staffing. staffing works. the crimes almost double from one year to the next. we increase the staffing of the unit and we're able to maintain about the same level of clearance rates. have we not done that, i don't think we would have been close to maintaining that level of clearance rates. when i talked to investigators, the one thing they were begging for was we need more staffing. if you expect us to do the job, we need more staffing. so let's look at our staffing over the last two years.

it's affected every part of this police department and, when i say this and people kind of dismiss it, it's something that has to be taken seriously. >> vice president elias: and i don't think, chief, i think staffing is an issue, obviously, but i don't think it's the end all be all as to why these clearance rates are solo and i'm glad you mentioned the span over time because even within the last two years, there's been a significant decline in staffing. this goes pa to 2016 when the department was well-staffed and still every category in 2016, except for rape, the department is lower than the national average. for robbery, aggravated assault, larceny, motor vehicles. all those categories since 2016 has been well below the national average. and back in 2016, you had way

more staffing. while staffing is important and we understand it, there's still another problem or underlying reason as to why is this happening. and my question is what is the department doing to that. >> so if i can address that, select a public policy institute to our crime stats and basically san francisco exceeds almost every other area in 2021 for property crimes. also, are the way we take reports, the national average doesn't take -- some of these are suburban police departments. we take reports over the phone, we take reports online. so our intake of reports reflects that which increases our overall number of cases reported. the other things that we do see are a lot of repeat offenders, a lot of offenders that are sophisticated that come into

san francisco in crews. they're very organized and they constantly change their m.o. based on how many times they get arrested. to give you an example, we had a crew that was working knob hill. they're doing burglaries. well we made them, we arrested a bunch of people up there and spaced on that arrest, they came back out and the next time they did it, they wore long sleeve shirts because they were made on tattoos. the same thing with robberies. like sometimes if they are in a car, they get their plate made, next time they come in, they're in a stolen car or they cold play. if they're in a stolen car and we get video, then they come in and they'll cold plate the car. so there's a lot -- i don't -- i completely, i think there's room for improvement. we continue to try to strive to improve. but we're also working against

a lot of crime that comes in that we have a limited amount of resources to deal with it. >> vice president elias: but that's the nature of crime you always have to adjust. criminals aren't going to do necessarily everything the same way. >> we also adopt technologies. i get countless arrest reports from patrol officers. we had one not too long ago, there was a series that was being done in a group by a blue b.m.w., they hit north beach, they hit elderly ladies. gets into a pursuit, they end up crashing on 101 and takes the one person in custody. our investigative teams didn't stop there.

they continued to investigate. they found the other person that was involved in the crime. so i know -- i know out there, they're trying their best, our investigators are trying their best and i'll discuss this with my captains if there is room for improvement if there's something that we can do structurally, we will. we actually have done a lot in the past year just managing the amount of people we have. >> vice president elias: great and those are great suggestions. i also think the chief had great suggestions, perhaps auditing the department in terms of the calls that come in and how they lead to arrest and how they're cleared out because i think that type of solution or that type of inquiry by the department really addresses the community's concern where they're saying we're telling, you know, we're reporting these crimes, but the police officers aren't doing anything, you know, and so when we see these numbers and we still don't have a solution to what the

department is doing to address these concerns and these numbers and the weekly stats that d.p.a. is providing us in terms of the community complaints, we need something tangible from the department that they're going to do in terms of addressing the situation. so, you know, i think your suggestion's great and i really welcome, you know, your findings and having you come back to report that. i'm going to ask one more question and then i'm going to turn it over to my fellow commissioners. one thing on your letter, chief, to supervisor ronen, page three, you indicate that although an allocation it does not constitute possible misconduct or policy failure and it's important to remember it may be unmade to the original complaint and you basically go on to say there are certain complaints that come in but during the investigation, sometimes additional complaints are added and that also influences these numbers and my question is to you or d.p.a., how often is

this happening and i mean, i'm not sure if you're blaming d.p.a. or how that number correlates to the fact that your numbers or the numbers in the department are down? >> police chief scott: this is not a blame at all. it's the fact that if a complaint comes in and that complaint does not get sustained. there's been sufficient evidence or the officers are exonerated and another complaint is added because misconduct is discovered during that investigation and correct me if i'm wrong, but when that complaint on the report particularly to d.p.a. report will show us the same complaint. it's not necessarily for the original allegation, but there's some other form of misconduct. so we have to parse that out that the original complaint there may be neglect duty for failure to do whatever the allegation is. but let's say the officer

didn't turn on the body-warn camera because that's what we see a lot. the body-warn camera would be sustained, but in the report that you all get, the commission gets from d.p.a., it will show an investigation as the same complaint. it's not parsed out where the allegations are separated. where it's the original investigation or allegations are differentiated from some other allegation that comes up during that investigation. so that's just f.y.i. that it could skew the actual misconduct being looked at. the report is not reported that way. it's not reported that there were three other added allegations that were sustained, but the original allegation was not sustained. it's just not reported that way. >> i can address that. i'm not sure how d.p.a. got into cross hairs here, but i think it's important to understand how d.p.a. gets

complaints. so when a civilian calls us, that civilian may be college educated, they may not be. they may be super articulate, they may not be. english may be their second language, it may not be. and sometimes they're upset, they're under the stress of a recent interaction with police officers and they call us and they call in to complain about an interaction with a police officer. they don't know what policy the officer violated if any. they just want to call to complain and it is up to us to investigate the complaint as a whole. when we get a complaint we wholistically review it to determine what if anything went wrong. to determine whether or not those allegations are

substantiated. so i want to put this myth about d.p.a. allegations to rest. we do this just like i.a. and just like i.s.d.. we look at the whole incident when it comes in and determine what went wrong. it would be -- we cannot turn a blind eye to improper conduct. i don't believe the chief would want us to do that so i just wanted to make sure that's clear. in terms of parsing out reports, i'm not shush what those reports look like as i sit here right now. when we get a complaint, we try to determine what happens. we add the allegations that are appropriate based on our knowledge of the policies and based on what we see from the

evidence and if there's misconduct, that misconduct is labeled based on preapproved categories and it's sustained and that information is provided to the chief for review. i hope that explains that. >> commissioner: thank you, vice president elias. i want to get a little more granular because vice president elias focused on the overall rate. and you talked about the variability. when i look at the variability and the categories i focused on were rape, aggravated assault, and larceny. there's variability as far as whether the numbers improved or worsen. but the constant has been about 10% to 12% below the national

average and this was before staffing shortages. so the percentage is really important considering one of the facts that the chief pointed out the city has based on voters and based on best practices moved away from arresting certain categories of calls. and so i think the number you sided was 10 years ago doing about 30,000 arrests. now, there are about 12,000 arrests. that number alone to me whether it has improved or shortage of staffing or not would lead me to believe as the rookie or the newest member of this commission that there's actually a relief in the workload for those officers. so the inverse of that would have been an improved rate overall unless there's actually something that we are just not doing really well when we're investigating robbery, rape,

and larceny. so that i guess is the question that we didn't feel at least from my position was answered. you know, we want to be a solution-oriented force. we want to be a solution-oriented commission to have these conversations to determine and discern what the real issues are. right. and for me right here that is a glaring gap and i'm not hearing like, oh, we found this training element that needs to be improved or we need to staff differently in certain areas. so that's the reason why this 10% under the national average is very concerning. and so my question is similar to commissioner elias' is what new direction? what new training? what new resource allocation are we looking at? and if there aren't any, let's start. and the other question i have

is i think one of your answers around the clearance rates, chief was that there were limited technological resources which has hindered our ability to clear more rates and investigate thoroughly and i'd like you to elaborate on what those may be just so that what we know is perceived as from the department and inhibiting our ability to improve that. >> police chief scott: yeah. the technological resources, we do have technology. >> commissioner: i mean, that was quoted from the response. it says there are limited technological resources that have hindered sfpd's ability to thoroughly investigate. >> police chief scott: we have technology within the department. one of the things we're working on right now technology wise with the board of to be able to

access that data or that video feed to get that in real time. that's going through the koit and board of supervisors office right now. in my opinion, that would be very helpful. the things that are helping us, i want to ask about things they are doing. we have for instance with our shootings and gunfire. in 2018, we receive a federal grant to step up our crime gun investigations unit which is a collaboration with atf, the d.a.'s office and the technology that we have had for

years, but i believe we use it much more effectively because of this. this work that we're doing with our partners. shot spotters where we're able to get casings and tie shootings together. that's resulted in clearances that are really great investigations that we would not have been able to do prior to this configuration. so that's an emerging issue. we are trying to expand that to more of a regional approach because a lot of our shootings are related to other cities. the burglaries, let me go back to the burglaries for a second and tell you what we're doing on that. i mentioned that we increased the size of the burglary investigation unit, but the other thing is we created a retail theft unit within that unit because a lot of these numbers are driven by car break-ins and retail theft, but the retail theft piece, that unit is doing some good work and that staffing has helped us

i believe at least maintain a level of clearances. our robberies. in 2018, we recentralized robberies, that was a help because a lot of the series robberies that were happening prior to 2018, we saw that we could communicate more effectively. the robberies happened one day in the central. and those robbery investigators if they're not talking together causes less of a probability. when we recentralize, we've had some good outcomes on solving these serial robberies. these are all things i think will help us get better in the clearance rates. the clearance rates we have and there's more adjustments we have to make because of our staffing we just recentralized.

our investigative functions are all working out of the headquarters building, station investigative configuration. there are some drawbacks to that. there are some advantages to that, but we just can't afford to do that right now. another thing we've done is the reconfiguration, this has been mentioned, but our community violence reduction team. there's a whole component as i've discussed to try to address these issues in a different manner and we've seen some promising outcomes and i think that's going to be better as we build that out more and then the last thing, i just want to point out two things. national average, not arguing about that at all. at least the life size police

departments in the bay area. if you take a look at how we compare regionally and even in california, we're definitely in the ball park if not better regionally. and the reason i point it out the national averages is just that policing in the bay area is different than policing in southern california. policing in the california is different than policing in seattle. there are regional issues that we have to contend with that i believe impact us all. we're not doing too bad so we're not doing too bad at all. no arguments. we're lower than the national average. i'm happy that we're higher in homicides year in and year out. and we're going to definitely

keep working at it. >> commissioner: thank you for sharing those strategies because i think it is helpful for us to know that there is an analysis that's leading to changes. right. because you know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. i just had to say that. but the other question i have is because staffing obviously comes up, and i know we talked about -- i mentioned this last week, one of the matrix or one of the documents i think evaluation recommended an analysis of positions that could be civilianized so that that way we can, you know, remove that burden, that administrative burden off the officers resulting in these arrests and clearance rates. and so has the department looked at that?

are there actual positions activities or duties that are being consolidated that then can be, you know, converted into positions of nonsworn staff that will alleviate that burden on the sworn officers? >> police chief scott: yes. we have. and there constantly are. actually, we have to report this to the commission on a yearly basis as well as the board of supervisors. but there are positions that over time we have civilianized. for instance, some of our technology positions, pretty much are all civilian now. five or six years ago, that was not the case. we've looked at some of our crime lab functions and there's some meet and confer processes we have to go through on that, but that's hopefully in our future. there are other positions that we have a whole list of that we've reported publicly that we

would like to civilianize. as a matter of fact, just prior to covid, we were well on the way to do that and then there was a hiring fee so that slowed us down quite drastically and now we're trying to wrap that back up. we listed at least 50 positions somewhere around there that we'd like to civilianize and it's an ongoing process. that list is still there. we have civilianized some of those positions, but we didn't get to the whole list because of the hiring freeze. so hopefully we can pick that back up. even prior to that over the last -- since 2014 there have been a number of those positions that have been civilianized and we have to be more efficient with the resources we do have and that's apart of that. >> commissioner: thank you for that. i agree with that. work smarter, not harder and look at those efficiencies that we can find.

thank you. >> commissioner: thank you. i think my fellow commissioners have already covered the data and historical information pretty well. you know, one observation that came up in this and i don't know that we've discussed and i don't know if this was accurate, but and, you know, we tend to blame everything on staffing and that's been the case since i've been here. the chronicle the other day said that we have -- i'm sure you saw this, the highest per capita policing in california meaning number of officers per number of residents in san francisco. is that -- do you disagree that that was -- the chronicle was accurate in that statement because i'm going to make some assumptions based off of that?

>> police chief scott: well, i don't know whether that's accurate or not but i respect what the chronicle has to say. i don't know where they got the data from. i haven't validated that. >> commissioner: okay. i mean, i saw that and i'd heard that before but it's just a reminder we keep having these discussions. i think it's fair to make -- to raise concerns about shortages, but i think it's also -- can be and i don't know that it's intentional, but it deflects from the underlying issue here and, you know, with investigation, i think there's -- this comes back to what w were talking about before which is what i think is the cultural problem within the department. and i don't think that this exists everywhere, but, you know, when i started as a criminal defense attorney in

san francisco working in the public defender's office, it was, you know, i learned everything here and it was fun and then when i moved out to other counties, i started coming up against different types of investigations and i kind of realized and this is kind of a general feeling which is san francisco is a relatively easy place to practice and i know i haven't taken cases in four years so i mean i've heard this anecdotedly because the quality of investigation just isn't that great and i, you know, maybe it's changed in four years, but my public defender friends might -- you know, any time you get a case, you have

to send an investigator out to the scene because there would be witnesses that weren't interviewed. a lot of times surrender violence that wasn't captured or gathered. you'd have to get subpoenas out there and an investigator out there and you'd get a short report, a few pages. i think probably i didn't do homicides back in those days, i was a baby attorney but and i'm sure those are probably where more focus goes as it should obviously rather than say a broken car window, but, you know, to me it feels like it just lines up, and, again, i'm speaking purely anecdotedly, it's been a few years now that it -- and i don't know if it's a training issue or if it's a

best practices and i think it's probably you're right at the higher level, i think there's a higher level investigation, but like mid level felonies, low level serious felonies, misdemeanors, it's -- you know, again, it's been four years but the quality of the investigation just really wasn't there. and i was pretty shocked like, you know, i thought i'm from the city of san francisco and i'm going out to like antioch or contra costa, alameda, oakland, san mateo, and seeing really well put together cases and you're like oh, this gets a lot harder when they actually get all of the evidence, talk to the witnesses, record the interviews, collect the surveillance, issue the subpoenas, issue the warrants. and so, you know, i guess it's

more of a comment than a question, but i don't know -- i mean, i know that when gascon came in, i know filings went down by 45%. and it changed things at the hall because they stopped filling kind of garbage cases. they had win numbers at trial or dismissals because of the quality of cases that were coming in weren't very good. and so i guess, you know, do we -- what's changed that's going to improve, you know, in the last few years? i mean, the numbers are still the same but, you know, are our officers being better trained? is there better oversight?

you know, because it would be really basic stuff, you know, our old friend jeff adoche would like to get on the news and he would have a video from an investigation that somebody was in for a murder and a video that wasn't released. i guess what's changed? what's changing? how do we get to a place where and it's not just the quality of the service, but the competence of the service,ing right. >> police chief scott: yep. >> commissioner hamasaki: we're talking people feel they weren't being well-served, but when they are being served ensuring that a thorough investigation is done. >> yeah. and i've looked at investigations that need more work, but the investigations that come across my desk, one just recently where these guys were responsible for almost 30 home invasions and robberies and the quality of the

investigations, they did search warrants in oakland and this is just recently. oakland, daily city, multiple addresses in san francisco. each one of those required search warrants, electronic search warrants. so when i look at their chronological, you know, are they have reference numbers to serious cases. i'm just using general series. when you look at those binder cases, but even the general felonies like a 245, assault with a deadly weapon. i mean, i'm finding that they are doing the correct investigations. they are doing the correct amount of work. now, when you compare it to other agencies, we have other agencies such as antioch, san mateo coming to us. we solved -- we're a resource for a lot of these agencies so

to tell you we are improving and that's because we have new investigators that we've brought in but i think it's unfair to say san francisco is not doing a good job cared to another agency. we work regionally and we have no problem getting cases convicted both at the state, federal level. we have some talented police

officers. i'm not just saying this. you could have thousands of hours of the investigation and somebody ends up getting probation. and, you know, having said that, that's it. investigators still go out there, they get the next case and they do a good job. i can tell you the one thing that's changed in four years is that we have a lot newer people. most of our people are five to ten years in the business. that's so intensive to sit there and watch all these hours of body warn camera. >> commissioner hamasaki: that's my afternoon as well. >> police chief scott: let me add to that sesyncedly.

in 2018, we reconstructed the investigation bureau. we put a deputy chief back in that bureau for oversight reasons. we had a commander. when i got here in 2017, the deputy chief of field operations basically had investigations, had field operations, that's a large bite there. so we separated that. we put a deputy chief for overnight purposes in that bureau and stood that bureau back up. we still aren't where we envisioned we would be in 2022, but a lot of that is due to staffing. we implemented a crime strategies unit, hired a director. tiffany sutton is the director of that unit. and it's to help with the anal littisting, giving the investigators the information

so they help them identify trends, patterns and other things to solve these cases. that stood was stood up in late 2018 as well. i mentioned the investigation center with the gun violence, but also a part of this is the infrastructure of working better with our victims so the community liaison. and this is all reappropriated and resources we have because the hate crimes and things that were happening, just that unit reaching out to for years now, we have tried to get a victims coordinator. we had the budget in 2019, before we could fill the position and we got a freeze on

our hiring, that position will be through d.p.h., the department of public we've added our part-time and we've had some success with that. on the burglary side of the house in terms of investigations, the coordination with the program, we saw some areas of improvement there. a lot of our larceny crimes that are retail theft related, delays in responding to the calls and delays in coordination. so we recon figured the cord

nooegs of our process that's already yielded some better outcomes to prevent some of these things from happening and once they happen, working with our burglary unit that we expand to solve these cases. so there are a lot of things in the works to make this situation better. there's more that i can go down the list if you want me to. >> commissioner hamasaki: let me ask you a couple of questions on that. is there like a standardized or a -- i mean, i've seen reports that have the little boxes. i don't know if sf has changed theirs in the last few years, but in an investigation like do they have -- like are they

taught or is there some way for them to log a checklist of abcd ande, surveillance, warrants, etc. does that exist? i know on the standard sfpd form, there's boxes where you can i believe check in if it exists but is there a way to ensure that officers are actually making sure that it's done so that maybe, you know, that might help if somebody forgets to do a, b, c. >> are you talking about the standard or the initial officers? >> commissioner hamasaki: i guess -- i mean, you know, for -- it's only felonies in sf that gets assigned. >> we will assign some

misdemeanors. go ahead, chief. >> police chief scott: i was going to answer the question. so there are basically standard investigative practices that go through i.c.i. investigator training that all of our investigatorses. the best way to do that is to assign -- well, the supervisors, of course, can review investigations, but the best way to do what you just mentioned is actually have a process to go back in addition to supervisor approval audit, those investigations, i can say that because i used to do that when i was a detective supervisor. that was part of my job. i had a team of sworn officers and we would just pick cases and look to see if those things are done. we have not been able to stand that up. we just have not had the staffing to stand it up, but it can be done, but outside of that, when those investigations get reviewed by supervisors,

then that process should happen at that level too, but i can say having done this type of work, sometimes supervisors miss things. as a part of our auditing process, we have a very small audit team and we do through our strategic management bureau do occasional audits. we have not done that one yet. but it would be a one time one shot audit because they do a number of audits around the department. we haven't been able to stand it up yet. >> commissioner hamasaki: i'm trying to fill in the holes in your question, vice president elias. >> vice president elias: go out with a bang. >> commissioner hamasaki: like i've defended the department many times on these property

crime 3,600s because it's like, you can't investigate a pile of broken glass, there's only so much you can do in a lot of these cases. i mean, you show up after an event and there's just no witnesses, there's nothing to work with, you know, i'm on the other side of that if it gets filed. you know, you have what you have, but, again, we have this data that is showing an issue. is there a way to track or are you tracking basically dispositions of investigations, meaning, you know, like cases are closed because of, you know, say it's a one witness case, a victim, but they're saying i don't want -- i'm not going to cooperate and so you have -- there would be a code for that. do you track that? so you can match that up against the data and see, you

know, whether or not why we're outside of the national standard or patterns? >> police chief scott: well, it's tracked in the overall clearance rates. it's tracked that way. if we have an actual car burglary we have followup information and those cases are investigated, that's tracked. and in the case of a series like we have had some series as the acting deputy chief just said where we get a crew, i think everyone tonight and my chief's briefing a crew that's hitting multiple locations. so we're able to clear those types of cases. generally, yes. i think we can do it. we can follow any case but it's

reflected in the overall clearance rates. that's the way we can take a number and see what happens on that case. so we can always do that, but the general clearance rates are going to reflect those cases that have been resolved and solved as posted. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. i mean, you know, this is a data point, the clearance rates, but there's so many individual factors that exist within any incident or a case that i see kind of in the media trying to extrapolate conclusions from that. i don't know that it's particularly helpful because there's so much underlying data that's missing from it. so i don't know that the conclusions are that well placed to begin with. so anyways, it sounds like it's

an ongoing process. those things where there have been shortcomings identified are being improved, cleared up and the numbers will improve. i'll be checking the chronicle. >> police chief scott: thank you. >> just one comment just because i really did hear a solution that is within reach. you mentioned an audit which is one time, you know, snapshot in time and space. in my field, we're all about quality insurance which means your supervisors look at all your charts and these checklists whether they exist or not, i'm a checklist guy. i generate checklists for my staff because i know people can only carry seven things in their mind. after seven things, the fire alarm doesn't even register. this is just facts. that's the way the mind works. so if we're consistently

including quality insurance of individual outcomes rather than just an overall number, it's going to give us a better idea of where to emphasize training and what type of training. so that's just one best practice from another field that i think would be easily incorporated into how you administer supervision and how you use that supervision information to then improve outcomes moving down the road. >> police chief scott: thank you. >> vice president elias: sergeant, public comment. >> secretary: if you'd like to make public comment please approach the podium or press star three. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: hi. this is ms. brown.

i'm calling about my son who was murdered august 14th, 2006. still today his case isn't solved and as a mother, i'm still seeking and still asking and i want to thank chief scott for making that phone call to me helping with me with the president of the board of supervisors about getting our -- the digital posters, homicide posters down at terraville station and all the police district stations also. i'm working with tiffany sutton and mike redman getting a meeting with the president of the board of supervisors. and so i'm still working on

that. i spoke with my investigator today. still nothing's happening, you know. we're trying to find a way, you know, to get a way for victims to or to get out there and say what they saw, you know. people are scared. and i think we have this $250,000 reward and nobody's coming forth and what other way can we find a way to solve these cases. i wasn't able to make it today because of all the things that were happening in golden gate park. >> secretary: thank you. you can call the anonymous tip

line at (415) 575-4444. line item eight, public comment on all items pertaining to the items below, closed session. if you'd like to make public comment, please press star three or approach the podium. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: i didn't put my hand down. sorry. >> secretary: vice president elias, there's no public comment. >> vice president elias: thank you. next item. >> secretary: line item nine vote whether to hold item ten in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10. action. >> commissioner: motion. >> commissioner: second. >> vice president elias: sergeant. >> secretary: on the motion, [roll call]

you have six yeses. >> vice president elias: thanks. can we take a 5-minute break before we go into closed session. >> commissioner: yes. [5-minute break]

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