tv Police Commission SFGTV May 4, 2022 5:30pm-10:31pm PDT
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you have a quorum. also here is chief robert mozer, sfpd and i believe we have diana rosenstein for department ofaccountability . i'm sorry, paul henderson is here. >> pledge ofallegiance. >> if you're able to rise for the pledge of allegiance . >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god , indivisible with liberty andjustice for all . >> so hello again, welcome
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everyone. what i like to do with two exciting pieces of news before we go to thefirst agenda item . one i want to welcome back oursenior commissioners , commissioner max carter-oberstone and commissioner yee for their reappointment. we're happy you'reback home. we have a new exciting system we are eager to see and work with . that is kevin benedicto the newestcommissioner. i'd like to give you a few minutes to say hello and tell us about yourself . >> you so muchpresident elias and thank you to all the commissioners .and an honor to serve alongside of you and to be amember of this commission . my work in police reform and for this commission stretches back to 2015 when i served as pro bono counsel to the panel on transparency and accountability and fairness in law enforcement and after that
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serving on the bar association of san francisco as criminal justice task force. i worked with the commission and thedepartment so i see a lot of familiar faces here . i've testified before the commissioner many times and i'm eager to meet on this sideof the table . i'm very much looking forward to working with my fellow commissioners and the department of police accountability and working with the department to ensure criminal justice reform and the new doj recommendations and that we have effective and pragmatic and progressive oversight of thedepartment . >> grades, welcome. we look forward to working with you, we're excited you're here so let's get to work. sergeant, can you call the first item? >> item number one: general publiccomment . the public may address on tonight's agenda or within the
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jurisdiction of the police commission .our dbe personnel more commissioners are required to respond toquestions by the public but may provide a brief response . opportunities to speak are available via phone by calling 415-655-0001 and entering access code 2488 607 0246. press pound andpound again and start if you wishto make a comment .you may submit comments in either of the following ways . send it to the police commission at sfgov.org or via u.s. postal service to the public safety building located at 1225bridge street 94158 . please press star three now. >> good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> my name is francisco dacosta and i've been addressing the
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police commission for a long time going back to the days when it was bryant. i find it very perplexing that our police force which should be 2000 is now down to 1100. and i'm asking the commissioners how are they going to address this important question if we do not have a full force we cannot address quality of life issues . so we don't need commissioners telling us about the penal code and making judgments on the police just. they're not going to tolerate this because quality of life
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issues in sanfrancisco have gone to the dogs . drug dealers are coming from the east bay and doing what they please. and they cannot be monitored because we don't have a police force that should be doing what they are supposed to do and are hampered. so i don't want to hear anybody trying to gang up on the police chief. i'm going to defend him with all my might and with my brigade. i'm a philosopher, a theologia . educational psychology, worked for the army. thank you very much. >> thank you caller. goodevening caller , you have 2 minutes.
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>> i'm a resident of district 1 and i volunteer for the black community. the following is a quote from the office of disparity in black community founder felicia jones. there's anurgency to address the injustices ofblack san franciscans . i'm going to call it what it is , anti-blackness and form of trafficstops by sfpd. i've grown tired of talking to the police commission, to sfpd and thisboard of supervisors . where is the urgency ? if the table was turnedand the statistics represented white folks i know there would be urgency . when will youaddress our spy us in statistics which is your responsibility as you took an oath to uphold the law . i am tired, not tired enoughto quit but tired of beating a dead horse. tired of our concerns falling on dead years . tired enough to find this
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anti-blackness urgency and seek help from attorneygeneral bought . we understand eliminating low-level traffic counts is starting to be discussed among officials . disparities in the blocking of theabdomen then demanding the end of racial profiling for months . a black san franciscans is at times as likely as a white san franciscan to be subject to a traffic stop . this is certainly one of the worst anti-black disparity statistics since the beginning of the so-called sfpd reform the racial disparity has only gotten worse based on sfpd's own data. routine stops they cut the large majority of two thirds of all stops for its own recording. covid has proven they stop black people disproportionately and use force andarrest black people even more disproportionately . then other groups. it's long past timeto take
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routine traffic stops out of sfpd's hands . >> thank you caller. you have twominutes . >> speaker: my name is susan buckman and i volunteerwith the black community . the following is from the founder felicia jones there's an urgency to address theinjustices of black san franciscans . i'm going to call it what it is , anti-blackness in terms of arrests and traffic stops by sfpd. i'vegrown tired of talking to thepolice commission , the sfpd and board of supervisors . where is the urgency? if the table was turned and these statistics reflected white folks i know there would be urgency. when are you going to address these are statistics which is your responsibility as you took an oath touphold the law for all san franciscans . we have been demanding the end of racialprofiling in sfpd's
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routine traffic stops for months . a black san franciscan is six times as likely as a white san franciscan to be subject to a traffic stop . many locales have addressed their own racial disparities by ending low-level or discretionary traffic stops by police . this includes one was black stops are similar to san francisco. vermont, los angeles, seattle, lansing michigan and the state of virginia. across the nation this policy change was being enacted because anti-black racism was at its negative effects that are soprevalent . why is san francisco holding back ? sfpd has proven they stop black people and useforce on and arrest black people very disproportionately . we need toeliminate routine
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low-level stops by police. thank you . >> thank you caller. good eveningcaller, you have 2 minutes . >> i'm also work for wealthy disparity in theblack community . there is an urgency to address black san franciscans and we're going to call it what it is, anti-blackness. i've grown tired of talking to the police commission and sfpd and the board of supervisors. where is the urgency? if these statistics represented white folks there will be urgency. we need to address these statistics and youtook an oath to uphold the law and do good for all sanfranciscans . i am tired, not tiredenough to quit . tired of our concerns falling on deaf ears . tired enough for it to be urgency. we sought help from attorney general boudin. where demanding the end of
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racial profiling by sfpd for eight months now. we wrote you aletter january 2022 on the subject . a black san franciscan is six times as likely as a white inferences can be subject to a traffic stop and 10 times as likely to be arrested and six times as likely toexperience force . the elimination of stops for things like a turn signal because the anti-black systemis so encouraged in the data . the use of force apps affect black peopleroutinely. these steps must and . >> thank you caller. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> speaker: can you hear me? good evening. i'm calling because of my daughter murdered 2006. still to this day this case has
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been solved and again mother's day is coming up sunday. and i am feeling some type of way. i'm just needing justice for my son.that would be a great mother's day gift for me if i had some kind of closure concerning my son's case that would be a terrific mother's day gift for me and i'm just praying something happens . that something may happen during mother's day better than what i have. i only had one son. his name was aubrey. and i don't have in this mother's day. i just pray that the system finds another way to solve our unsolved homicides . and with that ipass. thank you .
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>> thank you ms. brown. if you have any information regarding the murder of aubrey call the tip line at 575-4444. good evening, you have to minutes. >> speaker: my name is jessica jenkins calling inthis afternoon . up friend was pulled over and given a ticket by atraffic motorcycle unit . he was riding a bicycle and there's been a disturbing trend of traffic enforcement targeting cyclists while traffic actual dangers with driving 10 to help with vision zero hasbeen implementing . they're getting harder for minor infractions. many cyclists of colorin
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particular and it's just disturbing to see that trend . it's totally unequal of enforcement targeting cyclists instead of dangerous drivers on the road and ihope the department and commission can help with this . >> before we take the next color that color once to contact the department of police accountability if there's specific incidents or specific allegations regarding race for specific stops i'm happy to followup with that . a senior investigator is on the call tonight in case other issues come up as well. i wanted to interrupt with tha . i know we're notresponding but i want to make sure people have thatinformation . >> that is the end of public comment . >> thank you. next item please. >> i into an option of minutes for the meeting of april 6 13 the 20th of 2022.
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>> the book to makea motion to adopt, can we get a second ? >> second. >> on the motioncommissioner , howdo you vote ? >> not beingpresent out-of-state . >> unfortunately he can't abstain on politicians to vote. >> assuming we will get a majority i can't vote today. >> i would suggest maybe going last. >> if i can go last than sergeant. >> commissioner yee, how do you vote? [roll call vote] there are 4
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yeses, commissioner benedicto. >> public comment. >> public comment on a line item 2. please press star three now. there is no public comment. >> next item please. line item 3, report discussion. public safety concerns, provide an overview of an incident or event occurring having a impact on public view. it will be limitedto determining whether the calendar for future meetings . >> good evening vice president, members of the commission and
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executive directorhenderson and members of the public . assistant chief moser callingin . i want to start off with one crimes overall.type one crimes are up by 10 percent as compared to 2021. violent crimes are up by four percent and property crimesare up by 11 percent . starting with property crimes part one which includes burglary, motor vehicle theft, larceny, burglaries have decreased by 30 percent when compared to 2021. moving on to larceny which includes auto break-ins, that continues to increase of over 23 percent over 2021. moving on to violent crime which includes homicides, rakes, robberies, assaults, arson and human trafficking as mentioned earlier violent crime
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is up fourpercent for the year . assaults also continue to be a concern with an overall increase of 10 percent. moving on to the violence and homicides, overall gun violence is down 12 percent. with reference to homicides there were no on-site this past week. howeverhomicides are up 25 percent compared to 2021 . and in shootings there were three shooting incidents this week. causing injury to three victims and i'll get into a little bit of thedetails of that in just a few . while the number of shooting incidents are up, the number of victims sustaining nonfatal injuries are down 18 percent. as mentioned there were no homicides this week however we did have three shootings. the first occurred on may 1 at 12:16 p.m. on the block of
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giants drive in bayview. officers responded to shots fired locating 15rounds . on a call was received the shooting victim had been located at that residence . the victim was in placid when he was struck by gunfire. no damage was located two other vehicles and the area that the caseremains under investigation . we had a second shooting on april 29 at 2 pm on the 300 block of church street in the tenderloin. the victim was located with a gunshot wound. video evidence showed the subject following the victim pulling a handgun from his waistband andfiring a shot at the victim . the victim attempted toblock the shot and was by gunfire . subject fled the scene. that incident is currently under investigation as well and are third case happened on also
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on april 29. this was at 15 p.m. at third and casada in the bayview officers responded to a shots fired activation in the area of third and casada located 12 fire casings. shortly after a walking shooting victim was dropped off at the hospital and the vehicle that dropped them off left before it could be detainedby sheriff's deputies . video from the area showed a vehicle pulling up to third and firing the gun.people in the area running for cover no arrests have been made in that case and it remains under investigation . the significant incidents we had a response to a couple of demonstrations regarding the roe v wade draft ruling. those remains peaceful we had one of the federal
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building which had 1000 participants . it moved up to castro and market and we had another at how the market that have an additional 500 individuals that moved to the mission 18 and valencia streets. both were peaceful and no significant events. we continue to plan throughout the week for upcoming demonstrations as we move forward. so for cyber we had an incident of media attention yesterday at 9:20 1 am 415 mission. officers union individual crime in the sports tower building on the exterior of the building. since that did not have any social crime he refused to stop climbing whenordered to do so by officers . traffic and pedestrian traffic excuse me, pedestrians were
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redirected for safety reasons. eventually the suspect climbed to approximately the 64th floor where therewas an opening and officers were able to take him into custody safely . he was cited by security under citizens arrest and we cited him out for trespassing and delaying an arrest and that case remains underinvestigation . we have one other incident i'd like to highlight that was an arson barricaded suspect that occurred on first at 7:40 7 am on the 600 block of larkin. officers responded to an incident in which asuspect had setfire to a mattress in his room . the suspect through the mattress out of the window onto the street below . the building had several
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tenants inside. the subject was armed with a knife and had barricaded himself in the back room bathroom. members of our hostage negotiation team respondedalong with san francisco fire personnel began negotiating hours .at one point he exited and swung a pocketknife at one of our officers and retreated back into the room. finally the suspect left by an opened window and several officers were able to grab him and prevent him from falling out of the window while fire was able to bring up a ladder and safely take him into custody. hewas transported for evaluation . no fire, officers or fire personnel were injured in the course of this incident. we had a brief stunt driving events thatoccurred over the weekend . they were all on the first. the first being at 12:20 a.m. officers responded to harry and maine with 200 spectators. once officers arrived that crew
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disbanded. again at 1:17 a.m. officers responded to delano and selena whereapproximately 50 vehicles and 300 to 400 spectators were gathered . the officers were on scene, that group dispersed. there were reports of shots fired in the area but we did not locate any casings or damage to vehicles. at 1:49 am officers responded to the intersection of 13th and south and s as cars were gathering vehicles at the intersection doing doughnuts and they began to disperse at which time the group fled. those incidents are under investigation and finally we did have a fatal traffic collision that was a hit and run that also occurred on the first at 8:20 9 pm near church
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and taylor when a vehicle struck a scooter and fled the scene. the writer of the scooter was transported for their injuries . that is all i have for the chiefs report. and i would open it up to any questions. >> thank you. i'm going to open it upto the floor . commissioner carter-oberstone. >> thank you. you mentioned officers responded, i'm going toforget the name . shark, shots fired. 15 rounds that were fired, i'm just curious in general how
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often do officers respond to a shots fired call? is it something that happens relatively frequently or infrequently, i'mjust curious . >> it does happen quite frequently that we do get shots fired or calls throughout the variousdistricts . so officers do respond to those calls. sometimes they are, they do happen as a result of the shooting. sometimes it's shots fired where they will find casings and collect those casings and other times they may not find anything but it is quite often commissioner . >> thank you. >> great, commissioner yee thank youmadame vice president . i just have a question for assistant chief moser.
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i guess are we prepared for that as well? >> we've got a couple of games coming up but we need to have heavy presence in the headquartersection of town . >> that's a great question. yes, we do have a game coming up. it's going to be this saturday ibelieve that 5:30 p.m. . we do have extra deployment that we routinely do when we have these games to make sure that we can safely facilitate the initial pedestrian and traffic that is a result and then certainly safely help facilitate that egress after those games. so we will be prepared as they move forward and win those next
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games hopefully. >> thank you. >> thank you, commissioner benedicto. >> thank you president elias. i know you mentioned response systems in response to the leaked draft. is thatsomething that you're working in coordination ? i know the federal courthouse on the sheriff, what are the interdepartmental ordinations to those responses ? >> what we would do is typically if we know that a demonstration isgoing to be occurring at a fixed location , the district that's planning along with our special operations group that captain would reach out to those resources and contacts we would have those individual buildings to make sure we're on the same page and have a safety plan and coordination of resources.
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typically what we see in those cases is typically those demonstrations occur on the outside of the buildings . and then as they did in both of these cases quite often they'll move on to arches which at which point it's the police's responsibility to safely facilitate those both with officers on foot as well as traffic, motorcycles to help block trafficso we can safely facilitate those demonstrations . >> thank you. >> great. sergeant can we take public comment west and mark. >> yes ma'am at this time the public is welcome to make public comments regarding line item 3 . please press star three now. ... there is no publiccomment . >> next item please.
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>> line item 4, dpa directors report. report on recent dbaactivities andannouncement . discussion will be limited to determining whether issues raised for a commission meeting . presentation ofthe march on a 22 statistic report. executive director henderson . >> thank you. so currently we are at 221 cases have been opened this year. we have closed currently 203 cases so far this year. our current docket is 293 open cases that are pending investigation. we sustain 15 cases so far this year and we have mediated six cases. we have 29 cases whose investigations have gone beyond
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nine months. again, the deadline is 12 months. so we're watching those cases carefully and just as a clarification and context for those numbers, of the 29 cases, 25 of the cases are filled meaning there are other legal issues like civil cases or criminal cases that are pausing the tolling of time for the cases. 12 cases pending with the commission and seven cases that are pending with the chief. in terms of the past two weeks we received about 27 new cases. the top allegations for the cases thathave come into dba for the past two weeks , 40 percent of them have been for allegations of an officer behaving badly or speaking inappropriately to a member of
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the public and 11 percent were for an officer failing to write an incident report for an alleged incident. againi'm not going to read every single case . i'm just giving you the top trends or the top two of the full trends and breakdown with theexact numbers as posted at the dpa website . the cases by district and breakdown and again, the top districts where theallegations have come from . the two top districts this week or the past two weeks have been at central, central district which has nine allegations come inthe dpa . and then second to central, second-highest would be the tenderloin . for issues involving officers putting their hands on the complainant and also for
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allegations of officers not preparing incident reports . for the full list of every incident by precinct you can go to the dpa website if you want the full breakdown ofall the cases . and all of the allegations. as a reminderthese are the allegations that have come in . they're not sustained cases nor are these cases have been investigated by the dpa yet these are the allegations and trends we're seeing just so we know what's going on in the office week toweek . in terms of our statistics for the audit, as part of our audit with the san francisco police department's handling of misconduct efforts on the 27th of last month we sent a survey to current and former members
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of the police commission to obtain input on information that the commission actually received from sfpd about the topic of misconduct . the audit is evaluating conduct and we will provide an analysis with recommendations on how misconduct is handled at san francisco police department and we have more information in the survey that recipients received will only take about 10 minutes or so to complete. and we greatly appreciate those past commissioners that are still watching and the current commissioners that are participating in the survey as well . those responses will be used to inform audit testing and to support audit findings. in terms of outreach, on the week of the 25th dpa participated in community meetings at southern station richmond and the parks station. for the rest of the evenings meetings senior investigators
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are available and on call for issues as they come up involving dpa and he may be ableto handle directly . separate from issues raised throughout the commission. again if you want to get in contact with dpa they can contact us at sfgov.org /dpa or contact us through the phone number , 415-241-7711 language line is available for those folks that are not english speakingprimarily . and we have this evening to cases and closed sessions that we are prepared and ready for. and we also will be presenting this evening on agenda item number six which is the parks report. just as an fyi the monthly
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statistical reports are also available.we don't need to discuss them but their available online in case folks want to look at what has happened during thepast month as part of our reporting . >> great, thank you director henderson. commissioners any questions fo director henderson ? okay. welcome back. seeing nonelet's go to public comment . >> at this time the public is welcome to make public comment regarding line item for you if you'd like tomake public comment lease press star 3 now . and vice presidentthere is no public comment . >> next item please. >> line item 5 commission
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reports they will be limited to a brief discussion. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether the calendar and any of the issues raised for ameeting . the presidents report, commissioners report and announcements and scheduling of items for consideration at a future commission meeting . >> any reports to agonize? >> not really but i want to recognize that may is asian heritage month. we have asian heritage activities i guess at wilton memorial. wish everybody off san francisco police department staff and api have a great year. also last year we also had may as mental health awareness for
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our members to so i'd like to recognize that. if our officers are in need of help make sure you reach out to i guess our department and making sure where served. thank you. >> great. commissioner benedicto, anything? >> nothing i think specific to agenda times at this point but i know for the board of supervisors something i'd like to work on working with commissioner carter-oberstone on frequent stops and also looking to move forward on finalizing the dg oh on search warrants so hopefully that's going to be put on the agenda sooner rather than later . >> thank you for reminding me. i've asked that you go ahead
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and take the lead on getting the searchwarrant detail back on calendar so we can get moving forward . i know you didn't work on it and i'm told that it's ready or there's some that's almostready but i'd like to get a generalized the endof this month or the beginning of june . i'm going to go ahead and let you take the lead on that . commissionercarter-oberstone . >> nothing specific for me to report. i've been meeting every week with dpa and the department to discuss our pretext as discussions continue to go well and it is on the agenda for nextweek so i look forward to having a public discussion . >> and one thing i forgot to report is i had asked the chief moving forward that the internal affairs cases that we start tracking the race and gender of the officers are being subject to discipline in these ia reports and i'm told
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that shouldn't be a heavy task and the department can go ahead and start compiling that data so we canstart seeing that data when the ia reports, before us . director henderson. >> i was going to ask if we're going to start with that i'd love to see maybe, of the other correlations with internal affairs. maybe they don't have to match all things dpa are presenting but even some of the low hanging fruit of either the cases coming in so we have a correlation of what those numbers are or may be some correlation to what they can sustain from internal affairs. it's hard to look at the efficiency of internal affairs without the specific numbers that should not be very difficult to pull together as well and the sooner we get those numbers more we can validate the work that's being doneespecially as it relates to
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reform accountability . if we're going to start with the rate those numbers to be the least of what cases are coming inin terms of all the cases being sustained i don't think a big deal . i'm just raising back as a possibility of one of the things we could see as well . >> they're saying the number of cases ia receives as total and down. iknow they have the data . i just don't think they can tally the total yet. >> correct. i do it weekly. maybe even as part of the monthly summary to get a report of how many came in even if it's as i report not necessarily the ones that get justified but just to get a better sense of the volume so we know how much work is being done in that department.it validates i think the work that the department is doingin those areas . but i'm sure other people and i think we talked about it in the past aremoving in that direction .
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>> i know the internal affairs presentation is open to suggestions and how to better present the datasince they have revamped how they're presenting it . i'm sure ia will definitely, ed mosher you can take that back and relay the sentiments so we can incorporate them next presentation. >> certainly. >> chair: you so much. public comment. sorry, commissionerbyrne, forgot about you . >> thank you vice president elias. i spoke with captain kennedy in the tenderloin and we were supposed to goout with a patrol on friday evening .obviously there's been the press and the administration are concerned about what's going on. obviously there was a recent attempt on one of the alchemy
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people that trolled the tenderloin during the day . i will learn moreabout that . the good news from the tenderloin is i happen to be going through the tenderloin when a local catholic high school on golden gate avenue was being released and it was wonderful to see the children running around the neighborhood without any fear. something that we take for granted to see actually in the tenderloin again at least for that one day isabsolutely wonderful to behold . and hopefully this issue in the evening time obviously one of the students was in the tenderloin with that was recorded on. anyway i'll update the commission next week after friday night in the tenderloin. >> thank you. public comment?
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>> at this time the public is welcometo make public comments regarding line item 5 please press star 3 . and vice president elias, there is no comment. >> next item please. >> line item 6, presentation of the sfpd dpa report ongeneral orderspolicy proposal . first quarter 2022 . 27 06 they shall submitreport quarterly report regarding all policy proposals . >> good evening commissioners. vice president elias, members of the commission, director henderson and acting chief mosher, members of the public i'm catherine mcguire rector of strategic management and i am
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presenting tonight on the first quarter of 2022 policy updates and the discussions with dpa. sergeant youngblood if you don't mindbringing up the template first . >> so i'll start this evening by talking through a new format of presentation. i wanted to thank the commission and vice president elias for giving us guidance on what is most important for the commissioners to see so we're very happy to use this template and hone in on progress, changes, status updates and the like. so happy to present this tonight and also happy to get feedback on this of course because if you're not seeing
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something you expected to see you're seeing things you didn't expect to see, we want to make sure we're owning in and getting this right with respect to the important items that you all need to be madeaware of and move forward with . so i'll start with amendments to existing general orders. as a reminder this is the first quarter of 2022 and the meaning the time we're covering is the january 1 to march 31 timeframe and those, what we have populated this with is primarily or really is those dto's or policies that have made progress in the stages of dg own development and revision. so for example dg 05.01 we all know was adopted in the first quarter 2022 and we issued that policy and it is now subsequent
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to the border but now in effect. so that made the shift from commission to now department published policy. so moving on to dg 06.09, that policy was adopted on the same night as dg 05.01. it's a little more extensive meeting a little more time on implementation and we didn't want it to step on 5.01. so we are in the implementation phase with that particular dg oh and have atentative effective date of july 12 . dg oh 3.01 as you know, the policy is pending and dg 09.01 traffic enforcement as commissioner carter-oberstone
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already mentioned is in discussion with the department and dpa so those are all of the amended or the dg owes that are being amendedand if we could go to the next page . new general orders.we have two of those that have been worked on in the quarter as a disengagement policy and the directors have recommended referrals to be up to you policy and that's the behavioral sciences unit for people whoare not involved in the alphabet soup of the department .so behavioral science unit is essentially wanted to come up with ways to ensure that members got the care they need and the disengagement policy of course is also discussed with dpa and where in the earlier stages of those policies continuing through their development process. if we can go to thenext page please .
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department bulletins expiring within 120 days. we do a look back and look forward. 120 days and there is supplemental classification you should have received as well provides a long list of all the dg owes had expired or will expire. i'm sorry, dv and also dm's. we just treat them the same even though they don't have an expiration date but to look them up there for your information as well . we did have one that expired and i'm happy to report that the requirements for members interrogating and questioning youth was reissued as an apartment noticeyesterday . so now we are moving into department working groups. as you know working groups were assisting in 2021 and we are in
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the process of, well, the intent is for structural and procedural improvements to be put in place for working groups in particular and those will coincide with personnel movements and dg 03.01 implementation. and the final page, this is definitely one area i want to slide for the commissioners is this training staffing or operations recommendation is quite broad so we have populated with the items that are really specific to g dg oh. this is reflecting what i have populated here again and i want your feedback. what have populated in the document is the training that is underway or has happened as
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a result of published dg oh. with that i can move to the presentation itself which outlines dpa's or the work we've been doing in collaboration with dpa on various policies and discussions we had or i can pause here and get your feedback. >> my understanding dpa will present aswell . >> i can conclude my presentation. >> i think we will see questions to the end. have your slides ready because ithink there's going to be a question on the slide . >>okay . >> at this time i'd like to introduce janel caywood who is my director of policy to present the report on behalf of
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thedepartment of police accountability . >> thank you, i'm delighted to be here highlighting the important policy work dk has done in the first quarter of the year. as commissioner carter-oberstone mentioned we've been meeting on a weekly basis. chief scott and his talented team in an effort to create the smart policies that protects public safety and curtails traffic stops. before getting to my presentation i want to remind the public that a pretext stop is when a police officer stops a pedestrian or a car based on a minor traffic infraction as a pretext to perform searches or interrogate that person about unrelated crimes absent any concrete evidence of criminal wrongdoing. these stops are problematic because they are disproportionately carried out against people of color. they're dehumanizing, dpa gets
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so many complaints aboutthem . more portly and provide little public safety benefit so limiting those practices mixture our offices can focus to protect the public. so if you're interested in this topic i recommend tuning in and mister carter-oberstone will unveil some of the work with thedepartment and commission in this area . we want to talk to the public about it and look forward to that fee. sergeant youngblood if you could start my powerpoint presentation . >> i'm bringing it up right now. >> while we were waiting for the powerpoint presentation we made an additional recommendation regarding pretext stops. this was our starting point this was where we wanted to have a jumping off discussion with the department and the
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commission.some of our opinions have evolved as discussions have evolved . next slide please. to start we recommended that sfpd prioritize stocks that affect public safety like feeding, red lightviolations, it and run and drunk driving . we also recommended pretext stops not be allowed except for a very narrow exception for when officers have actual intelligence that a person or vehiclehas been involved in a violent felony . this is a work in progress. we've had many discussions with the department and commission aboutwhat the discussion should be . we definitely will be seeking input from the public. west save her from the line memorial we're talking to brian cox and the public defender's office and so many people are interested in this topic of
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this is a work in progress and we want to hear more ideas about what the right language should be and how we draw the right balance in protecting public safety and reducing race disparity. we also want to hear from the rank-and-file on what this should look like. we want to limit pretext stops but hear from you. what do you need in the policy, how can we reduce race disparities but still allow police officers to work? the recommended sfpd limit enforcement use as pretext such as jaywalking, fuzzy dice in their rearview mirror. equipment failure such as a broken license plate light. so in less this stop directly provides a felony we recommend that these forces be limited. our goal is to limit what we
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call hotspotpolicing . that is when officers go into high crime neighborhoods and start pulling people over for these low-level infractions in the hopes that they can talk someone into giving consent to search the person vehicle or see if the person happensto be in probation . we don't want hotspot policing to happen anymore. here's why. the problem is these are low yield searches meaning they're unlikely to result in contraband or guns. we want toavoid using traffic laws as a fishingexpedition because they are more effective crime site solving strategies . next slide please . sothis is also really important . thisis , i don't believe any other county has done this but we think this next round of recommendations areimportant . we recommended that certain types of questions that are the
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hallmarks of pretext stops be limited . during routine traffic stops there should not ask about unrelated mental activity. they should not ask for consent and should not ask whether that person is on probation. unless reasonable suspicion of an actual crime is present at the stop. dpa is of the opinion we cannot limit pretext stops unless you are guardrails limiting these questions and i have to say that she has been wonderful and we had great discussions around this so i think this will be part of the policy that's going to get unveiled. with the nextslide please . once again before i get into this next slide this is just the beginning of the discussion onpretext stops . commissioner carter-oberstone is taking the lead and we want to hear from the public because it's going to be a really big
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process wherewe build this policy together so tune in next week .i'm thrilled to announce sfpd has introduced a debriefing order written by dpa and the working group that has been meeting monthly through 2010. this order is exciting and requires the unit coordinator right now presented before the commission acouple of weeks ago . but they're going to pick particular calls where sfpd responded to a person in crisis and the subcommittee of the working group is going to roundtable that incident and we're going to evaluate the tactics used during the incident on lessons learned rather than with a punitive lens we have wonderful people involved in the cities crisis intervention working group,
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some of the best and brightest of the mental health community. we have representatives from the public and das office, department of health and department of emergency management and it's really an example of an effective working group so were going to create a subcommittee andevaluate these particular incidents on a quarterly basis . this is an opportunity to highlight some of the excellent police work goingon and some of the great interventions and as ac mosher mentioned , we cando some great work in the space . it also gives us an opportunity to make recommendations that continue to strengthen sfpd's policy and training , the interagency core coordination and data collection. it's been in the works for a couple of years so we'reexcited about this one . we've seen our incident review today so it's going to be an invaluable tool to continue to refine and improve sfpd's great cip.
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next slide please. also in the first quarter in response to sfpd's crime laboratories use for sexual assaults this type of victim to a later property crime. this is as director henderson has said many times a process which we strongly oppose so in light of that incident epa advised recommendations that we previouslymade on april 20, 2020 on this very issue . specifically we recommended again the department general order 6.02 on physical evidence be amended to do the following. number one delineate the future collection and preservation of sexual assault and also to delineate procedures for the collection preservation storage, training and transporting ofevidence . so implementing the recommendations would include a
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ban on unrelated investigations will prevent this practice from reoccurring. we actually have a meeting with sfpd about our recommendations that have beenpending for a couple of years . we have some good tractionand we're working on it . that's all i have, thank you so much. >> thank you ms. caywood. i have a few questions and i'm going to open it up to my fellowcommissioners . so i want to go back to the departments slide on the juvenile ddo . am i getting this right that it expired in january and then was just a department notice was just done two days ago so for four months and then expired? my understanding that correctl ?
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>> if i could jump in here and explain how all that rolled out on friday night when the department was had submitted their materials that have been posted for the nextsession , i noticed that the department bulletins had collapsed on january 23 2022. without notice to the commissioners. this is a very important department bulletin that my predecessor worked on tirelessly and that department bulletin contains the recently enacted legal requirements for interrogations as well as section 90 6c of the administrative code so read together these prohibit officers from carrying students without contacting the public defenders office and get activ counsel and allowing the youth to have a responsible adult
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present . we were concerned that db collapsed we didn't hear anything about. to deanna to his credit they raised this issue with us. and we reissued it. >> but only question is how did it last? i'm familiar with it ddo, it came before the commission. the public defenders office worked on it because the law had passed with respect to juveniles. i attended one of the working groups and even in the biased work they presented us this new campus did with respect to juvenile rights . my question is how did it expire and no one noticed and why wasn't the commission informed? those two questions canbe answered . >> thank you for thequestion commissioner elias . so to answer the first question, we were aware and ddo
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3.01 as the new at the time two years ago, ddo. they specified that db not be issued and rather be incorporated into 7.01. 7.01 continuously is kind of at the verge of beingready . and so the language is incorporated into that ddo. >> the ddo is in the working groupprocess . the last report you said there was a working group on it but it had met for eight months. the juvenile ddo wedon't even have it on the radar . how does this db expire and no one knows? >> from a perspective that was
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sort of thinking. from the department perspective it's a loss and then further we did notice and we did make note of it and reports it and the last park meeting. it was in the agenda . the materials didn't generally. i know there's a lot in there. the need issue though. >> did you just saythat this was in last report? the fact that it expired and w missed it ? >> it was in the agenda, yes . >> can i point out the agenda for the last report was three months after it already expired. my concern is i really don't understand that. why would you even tell us it
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was three months late? i would like to know like who made the decision in written directives that this was going to be added by addendum but we didn't need to bother with it and more importantly, who made the decision that the notice was appropriate to be served or given three months after it had already expired and the third question i have is really why was the notification not given either to the commission and or to dph? i want to make sure we're drilling down but we can't fix what we haven'tcorrected . i understand whatyou're saying . i don't know whose analysis this was that got us here and that really concerns me. >> if i may speak director. i want to give a little perspective on the actual order
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from a historical perspective. how we got up to hear and moving forward on this. when the department bulletin was issued back in 2000 i was the one that presented it in front of the commission at the time and it was issued as an actual change to the department general order and that's how it was written and that's how it was presented whether or not i've commissioned and presented in ourpower dns . it's a change to the geo. it is the law. it is what we are required to follow. it is what we have been following and it is what we have been teachingand currently teach at the academy . so we have been doing that moving forward. i wholeheartedly agree with you that if a department bulletin of this magnitude expires, we have to be on top of it and
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make sure that we are putting out the proper communication to our officers so they understand what they'rerequired to do . and in this case of course since we had your communication we went ahead and did that. i think we turn that around in less than 24 hours but we shouldn't get to that point even though this is the practice that the officers follow even thoughthis is , they are in fact abiding by the actual provisions of that department notice we don't want to get into a situation where they're confused . they look it up and say wait a second. this is supposed to be part of the general order but of course 7.01 as not been completed therefore it's not technically folded in. i just wanted to get that background and i've been in communication with executive director mcguire about making
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sure we put in someinternal safeguards as well within the unit . anything that comes up that is an actual practice that we are officers are doing in the field. if it's coming up for an expiration we have to make sure we renew it or have a subsequent redundant policy that comes on. >> it wasn't amended, it never got amended because the word of 7.01 was never changed and they needed to change for it to be an amendment so that's a presumption we made and the bigger concern is if there's going to be accountability for that rule that it has to be active in spite of what they been communicated to the officers. part of the reform has to go hand-in-hand with the accountability and the issue to me though is it still doesn't directly address the notification issue in terms of
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when it took place for it didn't take place. that's my concern and i know you just said the notification took place but i want to focus on was there a decision made about the notification at a later date or is the department aware the notification is a requirement that has to take placefor the actual expiration . that's part of it. second from the amendment which i don't believe is valid because nothing waschanged to the amendment in the first place . >> can't the decision because i don't know that. i don't have that answer for you. what i can as i had mentioned is moving forward to make sure we have safeguards in place so if this comes up where we have to notice that's expiring we cannot let it lapse and not have that current direction.
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even regardless of the fact in thiscase that the officers are stillfollowing the tenants of that . it doesn't matter .we need to be clear in our messaging and clear in our communication to our officers and you know, i agree with you and certainly when we communicated wholeheartedly we need to get this out right away. >> i appreciate that. the reason i was drilling down on it is i don't want to fix it and it happens again next week. that's why we're asking was a decision made to make sure that we're clear about the analysis of the significance of this. this was really significant we want to make sure it doesn't happen again and that's also why we're drilling down on the notification issue to make sure we're understanding or where on the same page about that notification, the intention being pre-expiration, not post expiration because the
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notification given here was post and it feels frustrating for dpa to catch something like this is the obligation on the department and i know i'm pushing on this i'm pushing because i want to make sure we're on the same page so we don't have the same conversation with another dto in the future . that'swhat i want to make sure that we're clear . >> i totally agree with you. we want to be on the same page from the apartment side. that notification is made on both sides, the department. dpa, the commission, we need to know about it so we're on the same page and i think where trying to get to the same goal of making sure these orders are inplace . that it's clear, it's concise for the officers and we're not getting mixedmessages . i completely and wholeheartedly agree on that and i will be speaking with the chief moving forward to make sure we have
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internal safeguards to make sure we're not giving in that situation, iagree . >> my question still hasn't been answered. i understand we now have a notification system but my question is how did we not know about this ? how did we not know the department bulletin expired and then how did we not know that number one and number two when we knew it we left it alone and didn'ttry to remedy it and report it in the sparks report .i don't understand how this happened because when they present, when the department presented on department bulletin and department notices and dg owes they gave us the rundown of how they are tracked and how the departments has tracked them and as this information so my question is how didthe department not know this department bulletin expired ? >> i don't have an answer for you. i don't know the answer to that
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commissioner as to internally what happened with those communications and why those communications either didn't happen or didn't rise to the level of the agenda but it's something that we can look into and respond back to. >> i think we need to know because my second question is after it expired you didn't reportit and then nothing was done until an additional three months later ? why wasn't any action taken when it was first made aware after it expired? >> if you don't mind, i think there might be some lack of clarity on my team's part on the expiration and then how. so the language in the old 3.01, the oldcurrent . the old new rather.that dg oh feels unclear for us with
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respect to dvds. what ac mosher was saying with respect to the dg oh change form is part of what we are operating under but there's also direction in 3.01 as very specific and says you can't. you can't reissue adv alters the dg oh. you have to incorporate it in 7.0 and agree with you vice president elias still 7.01 is not in place . without the teams just following the policy, didn't flag itfor us really . so we're having them review all the dg's that are expiring for the remainder of the year and we're going to get that list and i talked with janelle earlier today about reviewing that list together on a sort of
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each bulletin by each bulletin determining how we should handle it and how we should move forward withthose . >> 3.01 the old one because the new one is going to be enacted. it's all for today. one has been in place for more than a decade.the department has i'm sure figured out how to dealwith department notices when they, , when department bulletins come up and when the dg oh isn't right for amendment because some of them are still from the 90s that thedepartment is working on . i don't necessarily think that provides us any clarity in terms of how this happened or why . because we had people come to the commission and reissue new dvds or even notices us know they had to do this as an interim or gap measure until
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the new amendment. i think there was a remedy that was available other than letting this expire. here's my concern. this is a very important topic regarding juveniles. and also not only does it juveniles in danger but also officers in a it puts them in a hard position because if they're not aware or if they're not following it and they're not following what they're supposed to be doing you can't hold them accountable or discipline them because their defense will say that was expired,we didn't know . it's hard to sit there and hold people accountable when these sort ofthings are happening. and it's not fair to officers . and more importantly to the public . we have a duty to make sure that what we're doing is correct.
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i'd really like an answer and if you can find out how this happened and why, i'm happy that now there's a system in place apparently and maybe you can provide us more clarity on that and also provide a list of upcoming department notices. because i think it's really important . i'm going to turn it over to m fellow commissioners . commissioner carter-oberstone. >> i have one question to pick upon something vice president elias asked about . during the period when db, there was a violation. with the officer be subject to discipline under failing city laws? i guess i haven't been on the commission very long but the specifications always point to dg owes or other department
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policies. so i'm just curious if during this time when it collapsed if discipline is possible or if officers don't have fair notice so violation of the db cannot result in discipline. >> i can go ahead and take a stab at that from the apartment side. certainly if we have a case we would be going off the fact that this was issued as an amendment to ag oh when it was originally issued. it is the policy. it is what we teach at the academy and it is the law and it's what officers are expected to follow. certainly that's how we would present it on thedepartment side if we encountered a case . >> thank you. >> commissioner benedicto.
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>> i have points about both the dpa and department policy. first i think we had discussion about it but on the department bulletin about juveniles, it seems to me echoing what vice president eliassaid . if directives noticed this ambiguity that there was supposed to be in 7.01 but it hasn't been passed yet and the expiration is coming up the answer would be totake it to the commission so that we can get ahead of that . i recognize with a lot of the amendments going on there's a lot of ambiguity but it doesn't seem like not it's the appropriate response. my biggest concern is as commissioner that we want to be confident that there are not other boards that are looking in this state of ambiguity that
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are appearing on notices because they're part of the subject when dbo is close to being finalized. what i don't want is another d oh that would also lapse . i want to make sure whether it's from the ca or the apartments or the directives there's a way to ensure this doesn't happen with other important directives and bulletins . i the work that mistake we spoke about i want to thank dba and commissioner carter-oberstone for the tremendous work on routine traffic stops. i want to acknowledge the work by community members and the entire coalition. i've met with them on this topic.
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as it is critically important and san francisco has often led the way on reforms that have been duplicated across the country like dg 05.1 and i think we can remain a leader and not allow us to be passed by and i'm here for thispolicy to be unveiled next week and for our robust public debate and publicparticipation so we can get an effective policy . thank you to all of you . >> thank you commissioners . >> any other commissioners. >> it took me a while. i was reading dpoaccounts . the bit about the pretext of violent felonies. that's the intelligence exception i guess .as i understand. i couldn't read it congruent with traffic stops like duis and red lights and all that.
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now i get it. it's specific intelligence. >> correct. >> i think somehow some of us older people it might be better to make clearer the specific intelligence exceptions. >> noted, thank you. >> sorry i was slow on the uptake. i understand next weeks talk. thank you. >> okay. public comment. >> at this time the public is welcome to make public comment and if you'd liketo make public comments press start 3 now . good evening caller, you have 2 minutes. >> good evening vice president elias, wesley shaper senior policy manager calling on behalf of the organization and growing coalition to end bias
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stops. i appreciate the proactive conversation about ending pretext stops that's been increasingly on the agenda this evening. we're encouraged by the attention and growing consensus among this body. and the apartment itself especially by chief scott that something can and should be done about this issue and after really extensive community outreach that we've been conducting for well over half a year now we submitted our updated recommendations to this body which are now endorsed by 59 local organizationsand that's growing.felicia jones and the folks from wealth disparity have regularly raised this issue as well so a lot of credit goes to them . we believe based on the data and stories related to us by impacting community members that is becoming increasingly clear that a band list is the
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only way to comprehensively address the harassment of san franciscans and we believe this can be done and we can consent searches too. these are not mutually exclusive solutions to these problems that we discussed. we have a real opportunity to listen and be responsive to the community and san francisco is ready to stop the pretext. >> up up.
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good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: hello, my name is david aaronson and i'm a resident of district 1 to limit enforcement of infractions used to justify pretexted stops. to reduce disparities in the racial advised policing of the black communities. a black person is six times as likely as a white person to be stopped on sfpd's own data since sfpd reports that a black san francisco can to experience use of force and more than eleven times likely to be arrested. cyclists or motorists should be used solely in the interest of public safety. i encourage the police commission to expedite using whatever tools you have to eliminate the enforcement of
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fractions. pretext stops are nothing more than fishing expeditions. >> clerk: welcome, caller. >> caller: hi. i made a public comment. i'm happy to go back in the queue. >> secretary: vice president elias, do you mind? >> vice president elias: no. that's fine. >> commissioners, we're not allowed to do that unless you're going to open it up for every person to do the exact same thing. you have to treat all members of the public equally.
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>> vice president elias: well, can we open it up for a minute to allow people to call in for general public comment? >> yes, we can take this item after. finish the public comment for this particular item and then open it back up. >> vice president elias: okay. can we do that? >> secretary: okay. caller. you have one minute on your general public comment. >> caller: great. thank you so much. i've just become aware of a particular officer who's riding around motorcycle number 330 who is targeting people riding bikes, notably on or near the car-free jfk where they pose no risk to anyone else. it's discouraging and troubling to see that this particular officer is targeting people in this way and for that officer
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to be spoken to about the focus on the five rather than targeting people who pose no risk to anyone else and i'm guessing that this officer takes issue with people riding bikes and i wish that they stopped targeting those people around our city, particularly my friend who is a person of color. thank you so much for taking my comment. >> secretary: thank you, caller. do you want to call the remaining general public comment now or later? >> vice president elias: yeah. if we can. director henderson could you follow up? >> director: if i could interject, that last public comment is jermaine to this item. that person could of actually very well just commented on this agenda item. we actually didn't make any special exception to them. >> yeah. that's fine.
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okay. >> director: i did have a senior investigator on the call to follow up if that's helpful to folks. especially since we're on zoom. also, again, just as a reminder, they can contact our office 24 hours a day at the number i provided earlier (415) 241-7711 in case folks would like to make a complaint which can also be anonymous with my organization. >> vice president elias: thank you. sergeant. >> secretary: line item seven. public comment on all matters pertaining to item 9 below, closed session including public comment on item 8, vote whether to hold item 9 in closed session. if you would like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. and, vice president elias, there is no public comment. >> vice president elias: thank you, next item, please. >> secretary: line item eight.
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vote on whether to hold item 9 in closed session. san francisco administrative code section 67.10. action. >> commissioner: motion. >> commissioner: second. >> vice president elias: thank you. sergeant. >> secretary: on the motion, [roll call] and you have five yeses. >> vice president elias: great. next item. >> secretary: all right. i will take us into closed session. [please stand by]
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. >> secretary: vice president elias, we are back in open session. >> vice president elias: thank you, next item. >> secretary: line item ten, vote whether to close item 9. >> vice president elias: i'll make a motion to make a second. >> commissioner: motion. >> secretary: on the motion not to disclose, [roll call] >> secretary: you have five yeses. line item eleven has been removed from tonight's agenda.
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with becoming a firefighter. and as a component of being a woman in the field, it takes a lot of perception. it takes belief in yourself. it takes asking the right questions of people who already have the job so that you have the confidence to build it and it takes someone telling you that this job is a possibility for you. my job has given me 25 years of satisfaction. the primary thing is that i grew up here in san francisco and i'm serving in the city where i grew up. i transitioned to community training and i was able to build disaster resilient padre of volunteers and bringing us all the latest information so that we can be ready for a disaster. pride and loyalty are the heart of a firefighter. it's in the way we do our job from the very smallest thing from our everyday checks we do of our equipment. from the way that we treat each other and the community we come in contact with every day. and loyalty is to our own families is to the pride we have in this department. it's to the other members when
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we're out in a dangerous situation keeping each other safe. it goes throughout every aspect of being a firefighter. i'm really proud of the way our department approaches diversity, equity, and inclusion. i was hired in a class that had 45 people and 17 women. it was an accomplishment at the time, but there were many women that came before me that laid the ground work and i had to see it to be it. someone had to recruit me into this job. i didn't know it was a possibility for myself. and so the importance of young women seeing what it takes to be a firefighter, seeing themselves when they look at me. it really brings myself a lot of pride and joy in this it.
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anywhere else we have pocketed of great neighborhoods haul have all have their own uniqueness. >> san francisco has to all >> i moved into my wonderful, beautiful, affordable housing march 7th. i have lived in san francisco since i was two-years-old. i've lived in hunters view for 23 to 24 years now. my name is vlady. i use titus and i am the resident commissioner for the san francisco housing facility. from the very beginning, this whole transition of public
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housing and affordable housing was a good idea. but many, many residents didn't think it would ever actually happen. it's been a life changing experience. and i'm truly grateful for the whole initiative and all those that work on the whole sf initiative. they've done a wonderful job accommodating the residents, who for many years have lived in delap tated housing. now they have quality housing. i was on a street where the living room and the kitchen and stairs. it wasn't large enough to accommodate. the children are grown. i had the accomplish of having a dishwasher in my home. i really like that. [laughter] i really like not having to wash dishes by hand. we still do it from time to
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time. the mayor's office has been a real friend to us, a partner. we know that our city supports us. i love san francisco. just to be able to stay in my community and continue to help the residents who live here and continue to see my neighborhoods move into new housing, it's been a real joy. it's been a real joy. >> hi, i'm lawrence corn field. welcome to building san francisco. we have a special series, stay safe. we're looking at earthquake issues. and today we're going to be talking with a residential building owner about what residential building owners and tenants can and should do
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before earthquakes and after earthquakes. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> we're here at this wonderful spur exhibit on mission street in san francisco and i have with me today my good friend george. thanks for joining me, george. and george has for a long time owned residential property here in san francisco. and we want to talk about apartment buildings and what the owner's responsibilities might be and what they expect their tenants to do. and let's start by talking a little bit about what owners can do before an earthquake and then maybe after an earthquake. >> well, the first thing, lawrence, would be to get together with your tenants and see if they have earthquake insurance or any renters insurance in place because
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that's going to be key to protecting them in the event of a quake. >> and renters insurance, there are two kinds of insurance. renters insurance coffers damage to goods and content and so forth. earthquake insurance is a separate policy you get after you get renters insurance through the california earthquake authority, very inexpensive. and it helps owners and it helps tenants because it gives relocation costs and it pays their rent. this is a huge impact on building owners. >> it's huge, it really is. you know, a lot of owners don't realize that, you know, when there is an earthquake, their money flow is going to stop. how are they going to pay their mortgages, how are they going to pay their other bills, how are they going to live? >> what else can property owners do in residential rental housing before an earthquake? >> well, the first thing you want to do is get your property assessed. find out what the geology is at your site. get an expert in to look at structural and nonstructural losses.
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the structural losses, a lot of times, aren't going to be that bad if you prepare. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. get in there and get your property assessed and figure it out. >> so, what is a nonstructural issue that might cause losses? >> well, you know, pipes, for instance. pipes will whip around during an earthquake. and if they're anchored in more numerous locations, that whipping won't cause a breakage that will cause a flood. >> i've heard water damage is a major, major problem after earthquakes actually. >> it is. that's one of the big things. a lot of things falling over, ceilings collapsing. but all of this can be prevented by an expert coming in and assessing where those problem areas and often the fixes are really, really cheap. >> who do you call when you want to have that kind of assessment or evaluation done? >> the structural engineering community is great. we have the structural engineers association of northern california right here
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in san francisco. they're a wealth of information and resources. >> what kinds of things might you encourage tenants to do besides simply get tenants renters insurance and earthquake insurance, what else do you think tenants should do? >> i think it's really important to know if they happen to be in the building where is the safest place for them to go when the shaking starts. if they're out of the building, whats' their continuity plan for connecting with family? they should give their emergency contact information to their resident manager so that the resident manager knows how to get in touch. and have emergency supplies on hand. the tenants should be responsible to have their extra water and flashlights and bandages and know how to use a toilet when there's no sewage and water flows down. and the owners of the building should be proactive in that regard as well. >> so, george, thank you so much for joining us.
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the government code. do we have a motion to adopt? >> so moved. >> second. >> is there public comment on this agenda item? >> no in person comment. >> all right. close public comment and vote. president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner lee. why aye. why commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> commissioner wang. >> aye. congratulations commissioner thomas. >> when i say no interest in person you ask zoom. zoom. public comment was closed on that. why don't forget. i know there was no public comment on that and i'm willing to stake ply reputation. number 2 general public comment items not the on agenda. is well public comment on this
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item? >> there is no in person public comment. is there zoom public comment. why there is one. introduce yourself. one second. >> >> hi this is toronto can you hear me. we can. thank you. >> great. >> thank you for allowing mow to speak today. i was -- concerned about issues going on with some of the clubs. first is -- regarding the taking of roadway space vment there are a few major night clubs that are not only blocking off the parking in front venue, which is fine. for safety reasons. they are taking adjacent businesses street space and -- also the into the roadway.
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which creates a problem when have you ride hail drivers that don't know how to pullover and use the middle of the street. there is no place to pullover because of the red cones that are blocking the roadway. >> particularly i want to shout out great northern on utah street. and -- 1015 fol symptom there are the 2 place where is it is ridiculous and 1015 fol symptom the security guards harass youeen if you are helpful a block away. we have to being visible as taxis. ando temple night club is the worse.
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parking in the bike lane is horrible. not just her club but audio. those clubs are taking over the parking. >> and last but in the least. is -- the cars parked in the railway lane. railway tracks on forth by grand what was drake. and that is absurd. may be this is not agency to handle this. i beg to you try to reach out and help deal with this behavior by clubs that have no permission to do this. thank you very much. thank you. is there more comments from zoom? >> there does in the appear to be anymore virtual comments. >> we'll close general public
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comment and move to numberly a meeting of approval of minuteses from it is april 19th 2022 commission meeting. >> is there a motion. >> like to approve the minutes from the last meeting. >> seconded. >> any public comment present for our meeting minutes. >> there is in in person public comment. >> is there zoom comments. >> no virtual comment. why meeting minutes have been approved the next item we need to vote. >> i'm sorry. everyone. >> okay. >> ready? i will say for the record i under estimated the stress this would take here to come here with my child from the outer richmond i'm trying to get over that and a special event in the parking lot. let's vote >> president bleyle man. >> aye >> commissioner lee. aye >> commissioner perez.
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>> aye >> commissioner thomas. >> aye >> commissioner wang. >> aye. >> all right. the meeting minutes have been approved. now move on to number 4. report from executive director. >> good evening. everyone. i will just say -- i am a little bit tired i got back from a person trip it austin, which was arc maze and they do the out door entertainment and sound in a big wayism think everything is bigger in texas. i learned a lot and it was great. and i don't have any big updates for you this evening. there was not anything big happening here anyway. but i will remind everybody that our next 2 scheduled hearings will be used for our retreat. and then our summit. our retreat again will be on ttsz may 17th. and this is not an evening event. make sure you are clearing your
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afternoon if possible. we will provide lunch to all of and you this will take place at 49 south vaness in our new building and go to 5 and we can go get happy hour. and then on june 7th our summit in the big conference rooms downstairs at 49 south vaness that will be a day event followed by an optional happy hour. >> make sure you check your cal dares they have been sent your way. and we are excited to host those we not be here after tonight again until june 21. if you have questions, let me know. >> any questions? all right. i have no questions is there comment on her report?
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none here. >> is there zoom public comment y. well is no virtual comment. >> got temperature all right. thank you very much for this report and we can move on the next agenda item is number 6, hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission and is deputy director is here virtually she will introduce the first application tonight >> thank you president bleiman we are on agenda item 5? am i mistaken? would be our enforcement. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry i'm out of it. i'm sorry about this, everyone. it is still me. we will do number 5 here with you. >> sounds great >> good evening. commissioners. since our last hearing we received -- good to go? >> wonderful. received 32 complaints i have a
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couple of quick updates. i adopt to provide you with an update on wonder lounge 673 geary street. the business is on our permanent agenda for the permit application. since our last meeting we received 9 more complaints on the weekend of april 23rd. inspectored twice that weekends. and inspector conducted i compliance check on friday april 29th. during the response visits he befshd the business prit nothing compliance with temporary permit conditions and note there were a number of double park the cars on gearef waiting for patrons to be picked up caused traffic. i want to make you aware there was a shooting that occurred across the street if wonder lounge around closing on april 23rd. or twoshth. inspector was going become to bench closing and just
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parked when he heard the gunshot on geary street. the following director and i spoke with the permit officer dustin sang about the incident on wednesday i spoke with officer sang and the owner and operation's manager and head of security for wonder lounge and discussion and upon review of security footage had is no evidence of bar was arc fill i didn'ted with temperature we have not received complaints since the 24th the inspector visited this friday and did observe the business operate nothing compliance. the only other update is about the brick sands witches located at 401 union street this business was granted an llp permit allowing indoor entertainment until 11 p.m.
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we received a sound complaint which the inspector responded to in real time and upon rifle there was a dj finishing inside the business. the inspector spoke with a manager they were not familiar with the permit conscience he educated on the reason for his visit and i issued a notice of violation and reminded the owner and the gm all management staff needs to be aware of their permit conditions when they are not on site. >> that's all i have but happy to answer questions if there are any. gi don't have sdrekt questions i will have questions about the various wonder lounge items on here but it is better to save those for the item that come next that i hinted the when i skipped this item. >> unless you have questions
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about the complaint from enforcement i'm happy to answer the questions for you now ordering the permit item. >> we will wait. is there public comment on this item >> no in person public comment. >> zoom? >> there are no virtual comments. >> we'll close comment and move on to the next item number 6 the regular applications for per mitts under the jurisdiction of the entertainments commission and i will ask the deputy director to introduce this application j. this is for a place of entertainment for wonder lounge 673 geary the poe permit the prescriptions manager remains the same and owner of the new business. wonder lounge is operating under a temp refer permit and hosting
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events. host live eventsos friday and saturday nights and offer other forms of live entertainment throughout the week. discussed in my report we have received a number of threap 11 complaints. it was noted that off the complaints were unsubassistantiated except about the double parking causing kong jestion and noise. this is something the owner notified as a problem and they are trying to alleviate the problem vment >> april 24 there was a shooting. i received a report from the owner the following day notifying us the shooting they had no details to provide. i understand this is repetitive. had a meeting with the owner and had security to go over the complaint. based on the police department and the conversation well is no evidence the business was affiliated with it.
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during the visit they noted the business is compliance with security plan. they have submitted a security plan which out lines their security observation in place. business around 40 copyrights the out reach letter in your file tonight. we did receive a letter of opposition for the permit lead to a community meeting i hosted yesterday. the meeting for neighbors and residential and business owner and the prescription's manager of the buildings. jot meeting lead to a discussion about the neighbor's concerns and how the business is responding the group came up with solutions to mitigate the problem and open lines of communication for all. over all the meeting was positive and i believe everyone felt heard. staff made recommendations out lined. the highlights condition 7 below
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in which central station recommended that entertainment on friday and saturday cease at 1:30 a.m. and requesting a 1. . 45 end sometime the extra naenlt system voilths to their business. you will see both timed recommended to make the 9 decision. here is owner serkan bikim. >> hello, everyone i'm serkan bikim. and i'm the co owner of the wonder lounge with my business partner. who is not here now and as well as [inaudible] who will be, [inaudible]. i have been in the restaurant business since 2001. i'm from turkey. and day one i started from the bottom. and here i am as a small
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business operator and owner. and we started wonder with a vision to create enough social space for local and their guests. to come in and enjoy and we are here because we want to bring back the city to what it was before. i have been to that place many times before and enjoyed it every time and i hope it is your understanding and support we can do that. and thank you very much. >> one second. he is having issues with speak and mic. there should be on the bottom left a microphone button and a carrot. if you push that make sure you are choosing speakers and microphones connected to your
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system for us to hear you. i see you but cannot hear you and i know you can't hear us. >> we're not getting feed here of the zoom. we can't see anything. for the record >> looks like he left and coming in. he left for a second. can you hear us? i hear you can you hear me? >> there we go. >> thank god. cool. hello everyone. how are you guys? i believe serkan started. i did in the hear much of hahe said or if there is a question i
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can add whatever i can continue listening and add after that. if you like. i don't know what was asked or had going on at this point. >> we have not asked questions yet. your partner presentd and heard you wanted to introduce yourself. >> okay. >> hi, i'm arash the operation's manager at wonder. i over see the day-to-day operations there at wonder. >> got it. all right. we have heard from the permit applicant. let's open it up to the commission here for questions. does anybody want to start? when you are not in front of you. so i'm -- lost -- who is who. now but is it possible to have the zoom pulled back up.
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>> okay. repeat your name, sir? i'm sorry. >> i'm serkan. and i rash. >> you are in charge of the operations now? and you are on site there when the wonder is open? >> yes , sir >> what time do you open and close. >> depending which day it is. we are closed on monday, tuesday 4 o'clock to set up for a taco tuesday happy hour. wednesday same time 4 p.m. for wing wednesday. thursday around 5 or sick p.m. we have electronic music. friday and saturday open out 8 p.m. and have usual djes for friday and saturday. sunday every other week we start to roll this out would be brunch and open up at noon go to 4 p.m.
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>> all the events you have are in house? >> i use promoters, sir for the events promoters i had reps with for, while. some new i tried kind of you know w with side by side since i'm on site to make sure everything was running smoothly. promoters you bring in you are responsible for their actions and clientel? >> yes , sir. >> and the promoters you used in the past were at the previous establishment? yes. >> yes. >> and the security --ure in house or hiring outside security. with insurance wrchl we have
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alcohol insurance out -- the out source it to a third party. third party provider they are all guard carded. >> yes , sir. >> so -- the -- am tell me -- what is00 oop okay. what will is your capacity? >> it is 129, i believe per fire department. how many guards i run depending on the event on a friday, saturday night i know tell be a full house type event i double what i'm legally one for every 50 but i run about between 7 to 9 guards. i like to have a good presence outside and inside. outside i like to have 3-4. you know check id's. government issued ideas. wands, pat downs and clickers no in's and out's making surety
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double park system under control that becomes an issue sometimes and one in every corner in the. venue. upstairs over seeing down and the side door one in front of the stairs up and down there one near the restrooms to make sure there is nothing there. eyes on every angle inside and outside. >> for a small place it seems to be -- a lot >> it is over excessive but when there is a lot of people since the place is small, and more of a the bar is long so it is narrow. when it gets a lot of people it is hard to guest from one place to another. i like to have eyes on both sides. so to make sure it is easy to get access possible low if something were to happen or something. >> so -- what about the so called double parking and people
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hanging out when. did your guards at closing sweep the streets and get. >> absolutely. >> absolutely we push everybody 100 feet down each drukz we don't allow anyone to get out of cars the double parking are ride shares hitting the lights and waitingly for patrons to exit. i have one guard keeping an eye on people trying to park and get out. i don't don't allow that. we let them know you are not supposed to park here and they center to find parking which is not the street does not allow that. so. have eyeos that and make sure that there is the door not open. no noise outside. the neighbors are there is not noise for the neighbors. that's why i like a little more than usual on the outside to make sour they are covered as well. >> okay and since we were not at
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the meeting and -- the occurrence of your neighbors, can you explain hawere there concerns? mostly? >> so -- there were occurrence of the double ps and the traffic flow. there were concerns of noise. some of the noise saying seeping out from the top at which we had mike come in multiple times and work with me and taking pictures of the area. we have windows 1 in the kitchen i make sure it is closed. a couple upstairs in the bedrooms and speak urs in the bathroom i disconnected in case that is the cause may be purke the sound out. that mike looked and we were in compliance. another noise complaint could be during the 1. . 45 to 215 when we clear everybody out.
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we look to clear everybody out in segments instead of at once if you have 100 people out at once and they are making noise. it can get lloyd for neighbors i like to clear out the front section of the vennue first and work them out and push them to their vehicle and it is second per and then up stairs and get everybody out we tryd that a few times and seems the best strategy. and i feel like that is probably the best route toft go instead of everyone at once. >> so -- sounds like you are proactive. don't you think i guess the recommendation is to shut your music down at 1:30 tordo this slow push out. you know the music playing at 1:45 you got 15 minutes to get 100 people out and the street cleared. don't you knowledge i mean you
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don't have to kick everybody out at 1. . 30 but there is a cooling off period. >> at 1:30 what we do that is the cooling off period we take the music to a lower pace. slow music to get people in the mood it make sure they close out. i feel like if we were to shut it down completely at 1. . 30 it it is an important part that 15 minutes make or break our business. as far as sales g. it is an important -- an important part of the 15 minutes is crucial to our business. >> shutting it down 15 minutes early weave do last call. gives people time to get red to exit and we slowly start purke people out. once the lights go of we are prepared observe 1. . 45 so it is in the like the lights go on and the music off and we are scrambling we are in
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place in order to get everybody safely out of the venue at that time. am but that 1. . 30 to 1. . 45 there are sales as well it gives the time for them to finish their last call goes out at that time. >> and do you have your own dj booth? >> yes. upstairs. >> are you able to control that will in case the dj. >> i have active will -- active on the side of the bar i can turn that off if in the in compliance. >> okay. >> okay. >> no questions. >> no more questions. >> your turn. hello. following up on the left question you can turn off the sound from the side of the bar. >> can you turn it down instead
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of off. input and and volume i can turn it down low to where you barely hear it or change it on to a different input which will shut it off >> that's amazing control. i appreciate you met with your neighbor who is had issues and werea toibl have a discussion and hopefully got resolutions. thank you. >> absolutely. >> my question is what is your current policy and protocol if for a chance there might be complaint from a neighbor. what is your policy and in resolving that? >> i met with kate and the neighbors thatmented to voice their concerns about the noise complaints. i'm upon partnering with mta and
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ride shares to see that is a way for people to encourage them to take uber and lyft to help with not many walk to cars late at night. and making noise. we do our best to secure the perimeter. outside of that i encouraged the neighbor fist they have neighbors to call me and i will do my best with my scour to make surety noise levels are down. every time there has been a noise complaint and inspector came out we are below our levels. and i'm doing what i can but at the end of the day i don't obvious want the complaints to happen. it is hard when i'm in compliance with everything going on for me to certain things are out of my control at that point. >> but if there is a complaint that come in. we are more than happy to comply with whatever there is whenever
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we do to help the neighbors feel at ease. i'm happy to do this. that's the reason why i took on the meeting yesterday and answered the questions they had and told them i will w with them droll make sure that they feel that -- at ease. so -- >> thank you. >> and will your phone number be available online or. online. yes >> it will be online and give it to give it to anyone that calls in thatment to speak to me and i'm going to post the phone number online as well. >> thank you. commissioner thomas, do you have questions, >> i don't have questions. thank you. >> excellent. so -- just thoughts on. obviously, you have been there,
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while and you know the business and you have like a can have the grasp on what you are talking about that is good. my concern is that a bunch of your neighbors are clearly arc annoyed with you. they may not be your fault. but it soundses like you start off on the wrong foot and that can mean often that the problems escalate and escalate and so -- i'm hoping that we can stop that. i think you know obviously having a meeting with them is a great start. >> sure. gi think actively engaging them e spell the ones that are most annoyed and doing your best to listen to them not at once at a meetingly but often. i think is great. other thing, sounds like the
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parking situation and the double park system is really bad. i see from the enforcement report. i wonder if there are other solutions. you know you can say, look it is lyft and uber they are double parking that isow. even though it is in the you. but it is they are attracted by the people pou being out of your club. one thing explore is a uber or lyft pick up area, which isys to do if you reach out to those companies ufrm don't want to stick this in front of someone's house. but a bert location this does in the require blocking geary. which is a major street through that area. and i think just -- i think getting heavy handed with the
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lyft and uber drivers from your security and going with a zero -- zero tolerance policy on double park. it leads to honking. which leads to upset neighbors. >> right. >> i agree with you i believe a lot has to do with the people waiting for the people to come out. i tell you that i have responsiblesed it i am on site there multiple times where the double parking backed up from neighbors park and running instead. not much you can do about that. your security should know the neighbors they should be able to double park their cars if they live there. if it it is being caused by you and i bet. i mean sounds like you are busy now which is wonderful they are good problems to have. right? but i would i would focus on those aggressively because those
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are the every time a neighbor looks out and cease 5 cars with blinking lights and people and cars honking they will curse your name whether that is you or somebody else. it seems like a very solvable problem and being able to discern between who live there is and doesn't would be a wonderful exercise fur. so you are not yelling at a neighbor trying to run in get cleaning. >> i agree. absolutely. >> again. you know. i don't have major issues with this. i think you are busy and the neighbors are wake up from covid time and realizing things will be loud again and may be was nots crazy busy the end of the life as the beginning. >> right. >> they may have used to more quiet in their neighborhood and -- you know unfortunately they live in the middle of a
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major part of a major city and the quiet is in the always a part of that. but there are things can you focus on that would help to mitigate their occurrence. i think. and again it sounds like you are interested in that. sure. absolutely. i agree i am more then and there willing to i don't want complaintses. i understand from both sides. i don't like hearing obviously complaints coming in and the neighbors being upset. they are our neighbors they are there they live near by i want them to come in and support the business as well. for them to be upset and curse out behind -- it is not a good feeling not knowing i don't have the niche's support suspect not well with me. i'm willing to work with them >> that's good and when you get neighborhoods complaints i get them all the time in my businesses the first thing that
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i feel is i'm frustrated. and i feel like i'm under attack and need to take a deep breath and rolize the way that things work the business owners are asked to have the behave as responsibly as possible. and that means the business owners have to sometimes be the adults in the room with frustrated people. and -- once that i realized that and it is helps to mitigate the situations. sounds like you are interested. my concern if nashes are having it out for you. they are sends video every time member is out of cop compliance we are compelled to account it takes our staff time. you are targeted. they are frustrated. everybody is i think real that oftentimes is arc voided by you having an on going very genuine
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dialogue. and sounds like you are enencourage to you condition. why yes , sir. >> absolutely. >> so -- with that, you know running a business i'm an operator than the pencil pusher. i know how stress actively is to have neighbors call. biggest problem is obviously you gotta figure out how to not have the double parking or get the people moving baudz if i remember my -- day in when i had a club, there is a term park a lot empty and there are people that might not being interested in your club and want to drive by at 2 o'clock and see the girls ump don't mitigate the double parking it will be tough for you. because it is out of your hands in i way but it is your
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responsibility in. tell be stressful for you. >> absolutely. >> my thing is you know as an experienced industry rep an operator, you should w with that and figure out i solution. like president bleiman said when the starts coming in. it is hard to do and we are trying to be the peace maker but you know -- there is a big responsibility. i think you know, just make sure you are promoters are really under your control. >> so -- you are still responsible. >> sure thing. >> can i mention one thing? >> so -- i have reached out we have been reaching out to sfpd to request a 10 b. on some nights. example it is not because anything has to do with the crowd but more so of what you
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guys mentioned as far as the parking lot and people hanging out outside. and just double parking cars. i feel if there is a patrol car that is able to park in the front that helps deter people from hanging out and makes people when they walk out. okay. time to go home let's go to our vehicles. i have been unsuccessful i understands they are busy i do believe it would help if there were a type of assistance with sfpd. on nights during that time frame when we are purke patrons out. i do believe it would be helpful if we got a presence outside. >> just wanted 3 've 3 that out. >> i'm not sure what the rules
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are and asking for events but we do have a police representative on this board and he would be willing to take i bit of time to advise you on the options you have if we reached out >> thank you. >> add-on. >> so the last thing on the promoter side you know you know this, i don't need to say this but should say it for the record in the owl promoters are equal. sometimes than i can get you in trouble and what we have seen over and over you have promoters who are the some of the smartest humans i have seen able to get female come out of all areas approximate hang out and be a part of something big are then themselves. you have some who are a little mercenary and what happens sometimes is they bring in people who may be have existing problems with one another and the people sort out their problem in your club and that is
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something i would highly recommend you try to arc void. you probably know this. i don't need to tell you but anything in your club is you were responsibility if you have i prosecute moteer who does not care the people they are inviting our currently in the getting along -- you can ends up in arc legality of deep doo-doo. i recommend trying to find responsible promoters they are out well and they are great. >> yes , sir. >> yes , sir. >> and this will be my last. you know some of the irresponsible once are the most tempting they promise to fill your club the fastest with the most people for the least aim of machiney. it is like a devily bargain you make. >> i have a good repore with a lot of prosecute motors the ones i have previous reps i know had
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they bring. the now ones this try to sell you a drink and i take the time to see when they are bringing what clientele, in regards to the quality of the event. not so much bringing people in. and so i like to pay attention to that very close low to make sure that those, don't confirm i like to deal with my prosecute motors i have reps way know what to expect. if i want to continue working with or have to move forward with. that's another --. >> i don't have more questions? >> open this up to public comment. anybody commenting i know well is chat functions you are allowed to say anything you want
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within reason but admit a time for dialogue. if you have questions for the operator public comment you can pose those questions but they are rhetorical than actual. if you want to communities with the operator reach out to our staff if you don't have their information. i know there was chat things but public sxhent it wage comment this is don't get answered. with this i will open up for comment and start with in person. no in person comment. >> and on zoom? >> am i will go off chat first and i will do verbal after. so the first comment in the chat is from geary street tenant with questions when is your left call
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for drinks? what are your steps of keeping the sidewalks open so public can walk by? the second comment is -- from i apologize if i mispronounce your name. we support you if it is a professional way >> sdpt last comment suspect from abdull. i think you are doing the best i thank you they're doing the best they can given what is in their control. kate is an example of small business advocate who working solutions to succeed. other jurisdictions should take note. >> i will go to verbal public comment. i'm sorry. i want to note and make sure you
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are managing this. we can only take one public comment from each individual. on any given item. on the agenda. if you read arc loud a comment from the chat from one person they don't also get to give a verbal extent on that same item >> these are different people >> great. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> go ahead. i can answer some of the questions. this is in the a question and answer period. >> thank you. >> all right. this is barry toranto. i'm a little o o fendzd that this applicant did not mention taxys. there is no wath the passengers
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knows to look for a cab and the number and color. so offended that taxys were not mention in the this presentation. and also this taxis don't have to remain double parked for more than a few seconds. i might suggest the applicant apply for a white zone during the club's business owners and business hours. and so that the they can block it off. so that allows for space like other clubs do. every venn use dom you can see that over at august hall which is in the far. from this venue and they do this as well. but you might want to make sure you have white zones so the services can pullover and wait for passengers to get in our out
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of the vehicle. again. i'm taxis are not more expensive loon uber and lyft. at night when the surge processing wore less that's the truth. thank you for leaving us out. thank you very much. >> thank you. there are no further comments for this item. >> i will close public comment and we can discuss had as a commission. it is important to note they have a robust security plan at this point. and part of adopting this would be them also adopting their security plan my understanding is i think significantly more strict than many we approve.
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upon he has been through it. and concerned. i mean -- he has to deal with the outside situation eventually. the guards should take care of what there is. the big question is do we allow the recommended to be music off at 1. . 30. and they are asking us to remain 1:45. are that going to play the slow music or cowboy music at 1:30 to get everybody to start leaving? again the honor system. obviously in the future if it does in the work. we can recondition the permit. but -- in the meantime i think
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he is really rying and -- i think our words about permit using promoters. that's why i brought it up. i'm curious why they don't do something in house to create it. and build up their own yaoed. hey. i'm not running their business. so -- anyway. i'm in support of i don't know if you want to discuss the 1. . 30 situation. >> my feeling is if we had shown and up blasting the music we may want to limit the conditions but my feeling is you give them to 1. . 45 and bring them back in if that is in the working out. i think with the caveat i think than i have pretty major obstacles when the people pour out of the club at right at 2 a.m. and i thank you they need to name and that means actively using all the security out well. and making sure people are not
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congregating. making sure there is no double parking all hand's on deck. we can't require if butir recommend it. >> the end of the day anything this happens they will all get blamed for it regardless who is on the corner or what. i suggest you know we let them go to 1:45 hopeful low they will play the slower music at 1. . 30 and take it in stride. homefully coming else will happen y. i will be in agreement when inspectors gone out they are in compliance. they show a lot of good faith effort to make sure they are operating responsible low and they near a busy and dense commercial corridor with night life. i'm comfortable with moving forward with the staff recommendation and with entertainment going to 1.
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. 45. >> all right. do we want a motion in i move to -- approve this can the staff recommendations and with entertainment seizing by 1. . 45. >> second. >> vote. >> okay. president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> aye >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> commissioner wang. >> aye. >> congratulations to the applicant. you have been, proved follow up with staff for your next steps. >> i appreciate it. thank you. why thanks. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> deputy director will introduce the second of our 3 tonight. >> president bleiman. next application is place of permit 90 natomah street the cabana
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holds an llp and applying for a poe for djes after 11 p.m. it includes an out door speaktory play prerecorded music between 4 and 10 p.m. than i don't have neighbors near by the closest neighbor is 2-1/2 blocks arc wait owner did speak with them about the permit application. in addition, he e mailed letters to his commercial neighbors and to the east cut. a copy of letter is included tonight. inspector visited to set up sound limit and staff recommending their out door sound 50 feet from the property. there is no opposition and southern station approve today with the standard condition. here is to you tonight is the owner eric passetti. >> hi. >> can someone let me know if
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you can hear me. >> we are good. why i wish i was at city hall but i have a 10 mont old daughter who gets me sick one a month i'm zoom nothing. i'm eric passetti a bar own in san francisco born in the city and lived here my entire life. my family has been here greatest grandfather. ufrngs and grand father owned bar in san francisco before and after prohibition. my mother works for the department of public health i work in the hospitality for 30 yers special own the the cabeena since 2014. when we opened the clientele would be after work office crowd and convention business. only opened with limited live entertainment permit and little or no reason to upgrade we closed midnight. and we have dj's for the happy
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our times but never late. and i did not know how good i had it until covid happens and that's why i'm here now the work from home move am continues to be a big thing and business travel is slow. so we need to finds new ways to operate the business. and most of the rest what i had prepared to say would be kate said except there was a part of the out reach that was left out the tjpa the transit center adjacent to my venue as well. that's it. >> questions? >> i don't have any. >> nope. whyiel. commissioner thomas? anything? >> no questions from me.
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sounds good. >> eric, how are you. >> good. how are you. >> i have a question >> good. good to see you again. our polk street days >> that's right >> so, let's open up to public comment is there public comments on this item? there is no in person comment. zoom. >> there are no virtual comments. >> no taxi stands there. oovenlg we being entertain motions then. motion approve. >> we have a motion to approve and staff recommendations and a second we can vote. okay. president bleiman. why aye >> commissioner lee. >> aye >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. why aye. >> commissionering wang.
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>> aye. >> congratulations, eric and dennis. reach out to our staff at your convenience and we wish you the best and downtown come back soon are rather than later. >> one more thing reach out to andrew chun from scloeders he is organizing first friday's event that will be funded. reach are out to him a lot of live music downtown. why cool. thanks. >> all right our final application tonight. that director will tell us about. >> the final application is for i accomplice of entertainment at tame borrowa 3380, 19th street. previously admissible and the new ordinance bought it in 2019. upon applying for the permit it their name entertainment had never established at the premesis and to obtain the permit they had to complete
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neighborhood notification process. they completed this in 2021 and you in coming in to compliance applying for the permit. the full service restaurant that plans to host entertainment wednesday through sunday with bands and comedy and karaoke well is i copy of the out reach all right to 60 thinks and residents within a block. they received a letter of opposition from the convent across the street and there were written correspondence with the party which is is in your file. i want to note that since the right writing of the memo there was another neighbor who did reach out with opposition that also the included in your files for review. >> i provided everybody that did oppose or have concerns with the contact information for the applicant and the hearing information should they wish to comment this evening. mission stagsz had no diagonals.
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here to speak can sylvia and she is represented by juan choral. >> make sure you speak in the microphone. >> good afternoon >> i'm [inaudible] i manage [inaudible]. we are a restaurant started the first on geneva and nigz in 2012. which was successful and went on to now open another. they bought the property and opened in 2019. we want to be able applied for a poe becausemented to be able to do some more entertainment. dj music and what kate said. that's it.
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all right. questions? what time entertainment? live dj on the weekends. come may be comedy sometimes with includes dining and everything. >> and i'm sorry can you explain more about your neighborhood out reach y. we did letters you have them. we the 60 letters and block ridius we went out to the businesses around corner on mission. when we walked over and talked to them. why how did the residents? >> we talked to a few when we dropped off letters when we had first opened came over. . supportive and they liked we remodeled the whole from what it was you in to what it was. we [inaudible] we gutted the
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place out and everything is now in therech you said you had the business of geneva and mission. >> we have been there for 10 years. why great restaurant. >> i like it. why in case there was complaintses what would be your policy in trying to resolve the complaint. i'm trying to i would like it be able to be access believe to them if than i have my number to call me and i think it is better if i can w with them instead of just for them to waiting to complain and being no response i like to work with them myself. how am people get to call you? urth through kate or if they
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call our accident they can hear my number. i'm sure they will reach out to the business. sur a website can you post. >> yes, >> thank you. >> sure. i -- so this accomplice was a restaurant, no -- we have a hard time with this. sylvia and victor bought the building when they bought trying to get the permits we realized that the accomplice had a -- place of entertainment license forever was never classified as a restaurant. we went lieu it it is a crazy process and want to pandemic we never were able to get the business -- we have to make it apply to classify as a restaurant. then we had to do the 311. it was a press.
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i think that's why the poe is important it like there has been no return on the investment. it has been irrelevant hard. very hard. why i mean the building was an entertainment venue before. it d it have sound proofing and any of that stuff or stripped out temperature did and they had a poe prove and everything we put the switched the front it is double windows. we the double glass and we -- did the whole ceiling, too, what do you call that. when you put -- like i went blank >> insulation. >> are there neighbors on top but saying before that noise somehow left through the ceiling we insulated it and all that. tried to address the problems
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than i had before. why well is in sky lights in the receive. ? no. >> you tightened up as much as can. >> we pretty much did. why is there an i -- is there a -- decibel. >> it is the staff recommendations i believe. 84? >> i heard of >> well is not a recommended sounds limit the this time that is because the business is not hosting entertainment we have not had an opportunity. we will. as soon as we are able to. >> okay yoochl so the djes are for ambience or renting out your space or having the corporate parties with food. and giving the option to have. >> we are -- had a temp refer at
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the beginning. and we did like djes we want to do 100% in house we tried a couple of promoters in the froourt future we want to run everything ourselves. >> you want to dom it yourself. >> yes. >> you can control it. >> that's our hope. >> you will have your own dj booth and sounds system where you control everything. once the inspector set a level for you you will be able to control that. >> yes. >> okay. >> i del with that before i owned another left-hand laneth [inaudible] i know how to handle that. >> 11 and folsom. i read that yea, there is a sister living next door. >> sensitive, we have i remember when we heard had bought it we heard did about that that's why
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we did changed the front and did a double windows did not -- double glass. >> okay. >> she is very. during the pandemic we d did entertainment outside and chose not to so we don't instrument the across the street. >> you heard us talk at the other guy. >> we have business people to runner business and so many introductions. good to be prepared. and so teem seems like you are nice people and you want to help your restaurant and that's what it is for. bear in mind people will come and want a party and things like that. you have to realize. okay no other questions. if you do have functions you have security?
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>> yes, woeful do. >> is it outside service or somebody working for you. we want our own. >> you know they have to have guard card and. yes, i'm aware. >> thank you. >> i'm look at your instagram looks like before when you had the temporary permit a lot of nights with dancing. . right. will my latino wife will be excited. venue! [laughter]. okay. that's great and you will do in house and controlling your own sound system. >> yes. and doing monitoring. >> yes. >> okay. >> okay. >> i don't have occurrence. especially since it is a use that has been there for a long time. >> commissioner thomas? questions? no. no questions from me i'm glad to here something is coming up in the space. >> i own doctor keys half a
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block away and we are in a -- life or death struggle against valencia street. we need more business on mission we need it steel it back. many is trying to steel all you have our customers. i'm excited for this. you know i know this neighborhood well. we have been there 12 years and it is very noisy which is a good thing and there are very engaged neighbors but it is in the complete low quiet. known for being fair low ambient and louder than others. especially with beauty bar next to you. anyway i'm excited for this i think just try to be as responsive to neighbors as possible. and we all have been through covid. you know my first is not always torn diplomatic when something is coming after my business after what i have been through.
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have to remember that depreliminariacy is the best solution. sundzs like you are into it. so. yea i don't have more questions. >> let's open up public comment for this item. i'm one of the cyst are if the convent in question. >> it is not we are against we know the area is noisy. it is more it is a language time that would be open until 2 p.m. of for us we live in historic building it hab the centers since the 19th century. of course for us it is difficult because we have evening meditations and people come and the noise level is getting too much it is in the only the noise tlefl is with the parking. it is transited street and their
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over parking. double park and the gang activity sometimes when the restaurant close every accumulate there is and there is gang activity and -- 2 things happen exclude had lots of complaint with the police. i could not say it was this restaurant they close and tiny spots. what happens is that often the doors stay sxoep the people they condition make music in the cars there is no law enforcement on the street. no outside people taking care of that x. afterward the noise when they pick up everything. temperature statute whole night. since i commute every morning i get up early and drive for w and you don't get to slope. apart from we can't have our meditation sessions in the evening. so for us it is i difficult situation with the pandemic
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won't hope it would get better. and now we. want to work with our neighbors not our -- our occurrence. thank you. >> thank you for sharing. we can't i do want to address your comments. i think this the beauty of our body is this we act as a liaison and we are incrediblely on top of things director and her staff. so to what degree if this permit is grant whatted degree we help to mitigate the issues you are seeing daily and he you know for example the doors open you let us know we can community with the owner so you don't have to. we can help. in our experience here i think more oven then and there not the
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neighbors learn that we are actually better than the alternative like an unlicensed unregulated thing and it remind everybody the police used to regulate this. and than i have a lot on their hands now we imagine what would happen if the police were in charge of noise violations for night clubs. no matter what happens if this were is to be approved i would recommend this you stay in contact with us and we will address issues the best we can as a department. >> i'm sure i can tell by the ordinance and yourself you can probably come together with a solution. you know -- may be conscious of when your meditation as much soundses like heap wants to do in house thing which is measure controllable. sometimes when businesses are
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react have aed in an area you get more security and attention than being empty. there has been, lot of more crime in accomplices that were closed and inactive. sometime its is good. you know and it is the city. it is tough. i know. a lot of of the historic bodiesingings are vaundz evervoundzed now unfortunately. >> and you not comments about the gang activity they are true in this neighborhood and we had issues with this ourselves. you know famous wing wednesday deal approximate one point we realized we were attracting members of groups that had problems with one another and we had to figure out how to ton serve the community but arc void those issues that is on you. as the operators. it was on us. and you therein is in easy answers other than a lot of
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attention from the owners. testimony is hard but -- can't do it remotely. has to be from the owners. >> are there -- more public comment and virtual. there are 2 virtual comments i gallon from the chat and verbal. in the chat i have upon teresa from zdms the location crime issues on 19th and cap typeset is bad. and families living around on cap can hear noise after 11. . 30 p.m. that is the chat. and i'm going to verbal. for ben. know you have 3 minutes. and i will be unmuting you now and introduce yourself to the
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commissioners. >> go ahead. >> good evening. commissioners i'm i'm a 12 year resident of the mission and representing 3 other ma'am families when lived here over 20 yers. we are concern body this permit this . is the only poe [inaudible] it it is in the residential part of the mission. and there are neighbors cross the street and arc jaysent we believe this is a high graham and gang street. dheep in mind there has been shootings. will i think you should take special care forlet night activities here. in addition, we believe this this is not in compliance with
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the good neighbor policy for the following reasons. this is backing up the [inaudible] the nuns across the street. business windows open and doors open there is no sound proofing. across the street from the roof getting over 80db's routinely. that is very worrysome to me >> and also -- there are -- well is no attempt to police the street or surrounding areas and as discussed in the good neighbor policy. >> this issue it is really important for the people who are live and wing in the neighborhood. i don't worked with other businesses to create a space for -- communities members to
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support businesses that have jobs that are not in the might life business. and so for we are not -- we are -- not interests in extending the footprint of late night noise in this neighborhood. which we believe thursday really encourage this. so i really appreciate it if you this commission would denight permit or [inaudible] sound measurement it is by your team take place. because now i don't believe they are in compliance >> thanks. >> any additional comments?
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there were multiple poe's on that block and the former previous owner of that pace did. i'm not sure if the caller was mistaken or confused on what they are in entertainment permit in that vicinity. >> i do want to take the opportunity to reminds everybody you know to use 311. to lodge sounds cop mrintss they will respond in irrelevant time on the weekends. why all right is there more public upon comment? on zoom? >> no more comments. close public sxhent have a discussion here. on the industry part i pen they have to do sounds proofing. i suggest to do the best
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possible it was a poe before. may be the neighborhood people can say more but -- as far as industry we are good. okay. >> and i think sometimes depending on the business i think sometimes sometimes local residence denials conplate activities we have in night life venn use with violence and crime rates and not always necessary low a direct result. you know my experience having a light and security and people outside canune act as a deterrent to crimes. so, i know i'm -- it does not always sit with me great when somebody say list is a lot of crime on this block don't have live. music.
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not related sometimes or rerefers low related. i'm okay. i want to say to the if it becomes a partner with had and again again and again we found that very skeptical neighbors often work closely with us over time and ends up with respect for when we do. and often time its is better than the alternative. if this were to happen keep the lines of communication open with our staff. especially on doors open and windows and things. >> yea. we are here to help over see this and from when i observed tonight the owner of this establish am am is seems responsible and willing to work with of the neighbor and it is
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communities there is cultural value in offer thanksgiving on what is a busy corridor with an existing entertainment use and other places close by. i do support approving this with the good neighbor policy. >> do we have a motion? is this the motion. gi would like to move to approve with the good neighbor policy. >> second. >> all right. we have a motion. and the staff recommendations. why correct? >> good niche and staff. >> okay. >> president bleiman. >> aye >> commissioner lee >> aye >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> and commissioner wang. >> aye. >> congratulations, and it sounds like well is work to be done with out reach. continue to have a robust conversation with our neighbor and staff and try to keep that going. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> all right. tell me we are on the left item. i believe we are. final agenda is 7 commissioner comments and questions and new business for future items i will speak first i'm forced give steven a chance. [laughter]. so steven we have known each other for 10 years you combg anybody an entertainment commissioner for most of the time this is your final entertainment commission meeting which is bittersweet. he was going to retire in july you can poke but it seems there are reasons for him to go early in retirement from this commission. sdpi want to say, thank you. you know your advocacy on behalf of the industry of san francisco has been absolutely tireless. i respect the questions and at
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first i did not understand yu grilled the night club ordinance are you not the industry's feet. and i realize today is because you want to make sure they are responsible and will you know your stuff when you run a night club that pass on of information you had to them and being a part of this has been good you are part of the original battle and you watched this grow. thank you for your service and we have the forever love the stein lee lighting plan. [laughter]. codifiying. in our -- assess am that we do. thank you for your efforts and i know we will in the be a stranger we will miss you on this commission. >> my god. well. is -- please i'm glad we are here in this room because this wases first room when i started
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over 10 years ago. i knew al was on the xhikz before me and the thing is for me was and the reason why i do andiel that was my thing when i started off is telling the new operatoreds you know it is not easy. sxf when you get i place of entertainment you should hold this like it is a gold certificate. because you know -- we went through a lot of bad times and remember they thought we were shade and he we are small business people. and like to get people together and have a good time to issue legitimate and00 eye want to thank scott wiener at the time for bringing us out of the dark. and ir study of billion dollar night life. that helped a lot but i'm here to help. was to be the entertainment
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commissioner city and protect the thing i love. we all love is music and you know. live music and people in the industry. dj's whatever. the ends of the day and i learned with this epidemic. we own small businesses just because entertainment is an asset to bring you more business whether you sell experience or food you know we sell entertainment so we can survive my next assign am and the reason i had to i don't want to say yet. tell be announced. i'm hoping that i can help the area that i'm going to be going to. you know to help also other small knowledges that are suffering from the pandemic and trying to recovery. you know vment let's take china town an will example i do a lot of work in we started off with may be 4 or 500 businesses now
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to 200 and we are losing more because it is a recovery not fast enough if you mean know. luck low things are opening but we are trying to hold out. i'm hoping that my. experience will bring practicality and understand to look at the people that are trying to open their small businesses. anyway, i will miss it. you know i will miss seeing you guys and i have it say, we have done arc lots in the last 5 or 6 years. you and not i hate to say it it was boring -- because was great to get in there and fix things. will i feel like i'm a teacher. >> [laughter]. i don't want to be a teacher. teachers retire. i was going to retire now i will be trying to help small business
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in another way >> thank you. appreciate it. [applause]. may is celebrates amazing contributions of asian americans to here in our community and country and the one person i think of wha who has do this is yao over time with act sxrichl china town and your constat proponent of champions for night life. i wanted thank you for all the service you have done and for the hard work and looking out for the business owners and the asian american community in san francisco. so -- thank you for everything. i continuing is important noting we are not going to have the retirement party tonight. it is in the works. >> we will keep you in on the loop.
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>> you have to come to another commission event. >> yea y. we will try not to make it boring. >> [laughter]. you teach me about out door lighting. i do show up at the retreat. whyiel y. we planned this upon for something after we could do the retreat. whatever you choose. talk off line the summit >> on may 15th but i can still come. >> give us more time the summit might be the jam. >> okay. all right. is there public comment on this super sad news? no in person comment. there are in virtual comments. anything? no. >> cool. all right. and this is just a reminder that if you want to see it on the entertainment commission call up your
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san francisco is surrounded on three sides by water, the fire boat station is intergal to maritime rescue and preparedness, not only for san francisco, but for all of the bay area. [sirens] >> fire station 35 was built in 1915. so it is over 100 years old. and helped it, we're going to build fire boat station 35. >> so the finished capital
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planning committee, i think about three years ago, issued a guidance that all city facilities must exist on sea level rise. >> the station 35, construction cost is approximately $30 million. and the schedule was complicated because of what you call a float. it is being fabricated in china, and will be brought to treasure island, where the building site efficient will be constructed on top of it, and then brought to pier 22 and a half for installation. >> we're looking at late 2020 for final completion of the fire boat float. the historic firehouse will remain on the embarcadero, and we will still respond out of the historic firehouse with our fire engine, and respond to medical calls
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and other incidences in the district. >> this totally has to incorporate between three to six feet of sea level rise over the next 100 years. that's what the city's guidance is requiring. it is built on the float, that can move up and down as the water level rises, and sits on four fixed guide piles. so if the seas go up, it can move up and down with that. >> it does have a full range of travel, from low tide to high tide of about 16 feet. so that allows for current tidal movements and sea lisle rises in the coming decades. >> the fire boat station float will also incorporate a ramp for ambulance deployment and access. >> the access ramp is rigidly connected to the land side, with more of a pivot or hinge connection,
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and then it is sliding over the top of the float. in that way the ramp can flex up and down like a hinge, and also allow for a slight few inches of lateral motion of the float. both the access ramps, which there is two, and the utility's only flexible connection connecting from the float to the back of the building. so electrical power, water, sewage, it all has flexible connection to the boat. >> high boat station number 35 will provide mooring for three fire boats and one rescue boat. >> currently we're staffed with seven members per day, but the fire department would like to establish a new dedicated marine unit that would be able to respond to multiple incidences. looking into the future, we have not only at&t park, where we have a lot of kayakers, but we have a
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lot of developments in the southeast side, including the stadium, and we want to have the ability to respond to any marine or maritime incident along these new developments. >> there are very few designs for people sleeping on the water. we're looking at cruiseships, which are larger structures, several times the size of harbor station 35, but they're the only good reference point. we look to the cruiseship industry who has kind of an index for how much acceleration they were accommodate. >> it is very unique. i don't know that any other fire station built on the water is in the united states. >> the fire boat is a regional asset that can be used for water rescue, but we also do environmental cleanup. we have special rigging that we carry that will
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>> this is a huge catalyst for change. >> it will be over 530,000 gross square feet plus two levels of basement. >> now the departments are across so many locations it is hard for them to work together and collaborate and hard for the customers to figure out the different locations and hours of operation. >> one of the main drivers is a one stopper mitt center for -- permit center. >> special events. we are a one stop shop for those three things. >> this has many different uses throughout if years. >> in 1940s it was coca-cola and the flagship as part of the construction project we are retaining the clock tower. the permit center is little
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working closely with the digital services team on how can we modernize and move away from the paper we use right now to move to a more digital world. >> the digital services team was created in 2017. it is 2.5 years. our job is to make it possible to get things done with the city online. >> one of the reasons permitting is so difficult in this city and county is really about the scale. we have 58 different department in the city and 18 of them involve permitting. >> we are expecting the residents to understand how the departments are structured to navigate through the permitting processes. it is difficult and we have heard that from many people we interviewed. our goal is you don't have to know the department. you are dealing with the city. >> now if you are trying to get construction or special events permit you might go to 13
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locations to get the permit. here we are taking 13 locations into one floor of one location which is a huge improvement for the customer and staff trying to work together to make it easy to comply with the rules. >> there are more than 300 permitting processes in the city. there is a huge to do list that we are possessing digital. the first project is allowing people to apply online for the a.d.u. it is an accessory dwelling unit, away for people to add extra living space to their home, to convert a garage or add something to the back of the house. it is a very complicated permit. you have to speak to different departments to get it approved. we are trying to consolidate to one easy to due process. some of the next ones are windows and roofing. those are high volume permits. they are simple to issue.
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another one is restaurant permitting. while the overall volume is lower it is long and complicated business process. people struggle to open restaurants because the permitting process is hard to navigate. >> the city is going to roll out a digital curing system one that is being tested. >> when people arrive they canshay what they are here to. it helps them workout which cue they neat to be in. if they rant to run anker rapid she can do that. we say you are next in line make sure you are back ready for your appointment. >> we want it all-in-one location across the many departments involved. it is clear where customers go to play. >> on june 5, 2019 the ceremony was held to celebrate the placement of the last beam on
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top of the structures. six months later construction is complete. >> we will be moving next summer. >> the flu building -- the new building will be building. it was designed with light in mind. employees will appreciate these amenities. >> solar panels on the roof, electric vehicle chargers in the basement levels, benefiting from gray watery use and secured bicycle parking for 300 bicycles. when you are on the higher floors of the building you might catch the tip of the golden gate bridge on a clear day and good view of soma. >> it is so exciting for the team. it is a fiscal manifestation what we are trying to do. it is allowing the different departments to come together to issue permits to the residents.
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we hope people can digitally come to one website for permits. we are trying to make it digital so when they come into the center they have a high-quality interaction with experts to guide then rather than filling in forms. they will have good conversations with our staff. >> hello everyone. welcome to the bayview bistro. >> it is just time to bring the community together by
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deliciousness. i am excited to be here today because nothing brings the community together like food. having amazing food options for and by the people of this community is critical to the success, the long-term success and stability of the bayview-hunters point community. >> i am nima romney. this is a mobile cafe. we do soul food with a latin
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twist. i wanted to open a truck to son nor the soul food, my african heritage as well as mylas as my latindescent. >> i have been at this for 15 years. i have been cooking all my life pretty much, you know. i like cooking ribs, chicken, links. my favorite is oysters on the grill. >> i am the owner. it all started with banana pudding, the mother of them all. now what i do is take on traditional desserts and pair them with pudding so that is my ultimate goal of the business. >> our goal with the bayview
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bristow is to bring in businesses so they can really use this as a launching off point to grow as a single business. we want to use this as the opportunity to support business owners of color and those who have contributed a lot to the community and are looking for opportunities to grow their business. >> these are the things that the san francisco public utilities commission is doing. they are doing it because they feel they have a responsibility to san franciscans and to people in this community. >> i had a grandmother who lived in bayview. she never moved, never wavered. it was a house of security answer entity where we went for holidays. i was a part of bayview most of my life. i can't remember not being a part of bayview. >> i have been here for several years.
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this space used to be unoccupied. it was used as a dump. to repurpose it for something like this with the bistro to give an opportunity for the local vendors and food people to come out and showcase their work. that is a great way to give back to the community. >> this is a great example of a public-private community partnership. they have been supporting this including the san francisco public utilities commission and mayor's office of workforce department. >> working with the joint venture partners we got resources for the space, that the businesses were able to thrive because of all of the opportunities on the way to this community. >> bayview has changed. it is growing. a lot of things is different
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from when i was a kid. you have the t train. you have a lot of new business. i am looking forward to being a business owner in my neighborhood. >> i love my city. you know, i went to city college and fourth and mission in san francisco under the chefs ria, marlene and betsy. they are proud of me. i don't want to leave them out of the journey. everyone works hard. they are very supportive and passionate about what they do, and they all have one goal in mind for the bayview to survive. >> all right. >> all right.
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>> there is a lot of unique characteristics about visitation valley. it is a unique part of the city. >> we are off in a corner of the city against the san francisco county line 101 on one side. vis station valley is still one of the last blue color neighborhoods in san francisco. a lot of working class families out here. it is unusual. not a lot of apartment buildings. a lot of single family homes. >> great business corridor. so much traffic coming through here and stopping off to grab
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coffee or sandwich or pick up food before going home. >> a lot of customers are from the neighborhood. they are painters or mechanics. they are like blue color workers, a lot of them. >> the community is lovely. multi-racial and hopefully we can look out for each other. >> there is a variety of businesses on the block. you think of buffalo kitchen, chinese food, pork buns, sandwich. library, bank of america with a parking lot. the market where you can grab anything. amazing food choices, nail salons. basically everything you need is here. >> a lot of these businesses up and down leland are family owned. people running them are family. when you come here and you have an uncle and nephew and go across the street and have the
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guy and his dad. lisa and her daughter in the dog parlor and pam. it is very cool. >> is small businesses make the neighborhood unique. >> new businesses coming. in mission blue, gourmet chocolate manufacturing. the corridor has changed and is continuing to change. we hope to see more businesses coming in the near future. >> this is what is needed. first, stay home. unless it is absoluteliness scary. social distancing is the most important step right now to limit spread of virus. cancel all nonessential gather everythings. >> when the pandemic litly land
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avenue suffered like other corridors. a few nail salons couldn't operate. they shut down. restaurants that had to adapt to more of a take out model. they haven't totally brought back indoor seating. >> it is heartbreaking to see the businesses that have closed down and shut because of the pandemic. >> when the pandemic first hit it got really slow. we had to change our hours. we never had to close, which is a blessing. thank god. we stayed open the whole time. >> we were kind of nervous and anxious to see what was going to come next hoping we will not have to close down. >> during covid we would go outside and look on both sides of the street. it looked like old western town. nobody on the street. no cars. >> it was a hard eight or nine
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months. when they opened up half the people couldn't afford a haircut. >> during that time we kept saying the coffee shop was the living room of the valley. people would come to make sure they were okay. >> we checked on each other and patronized each other. i would get a cup of coffee, shirt, they would get a haircut. >> this is a generous and kind community. people would be like i am getting the toffee for the guy behind me and some days it went on and on. it was amazing to watch. we saw a perfect picture of community. we are all in this together. >> since we began to reopen one year later, we will emerge stronger. we will emerge better as a city because we are still here and we
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stand in solidarity with one another. >> when we opened up august 1st. i will not say it was all good. we are still struggling due to covid. it affected a lot of people. >> we are still in the pandemic right now. things are opening up a little bit. it is great to have space to come together. i did a three painting series of visitation valley and the businesses on leland. it felt good to drop off the paintings and hung them. >> my business is picking up. the city is opening up. we have mask requirements. i check temperatures. i ask for vaccination card and/or recent test. the older folks they want to feel safe here. >> i feel like there is a sense of unity happening. >> what got us through the pandemic was our customers. their dogs needed groomed, we
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have to cut their nails so they don't over grow. >> this is only going to push us forward. i sense a spirit of community and just belief in one another. >> we are trying to see if we can help all small businesses around here. there is a cannabis club lounge next to the dog parlor to bring foot traffic. my business is not going to work if the business across the street is not getting help. >> in hit us hard. i see a bright future to get the storefronts full. >> once people come here i think they really like it. >> if you are from san francisco visit visitation valley to see how this side of the city is the same but different.
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>> i am iris long. we are a family business that started in san francisco chinatown by my parents who started the business in the mid 1980s. today we follow the same footsteps of my parents. we source the teas by the harvest season and style of crafting and the specific variety. we specialize in premium tea. today i still visit many of the farms we work with multigenerational farms that produce premium teas with its own natural flavors. it is very much like grapes for wine. what we do is more specialized, but it is more natural.
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growing up in san francisco i used to come and help my parents after school whether in middle school or high school and throughout college. i went to san francisco state university. i did stay home and i helped my parents work throughout the summers to learn what it is that makes our community so special. after graduating i worked for an investment bank in hong kong for a few years before returning when my dad said he was retiring. he passed away a few years ago. after taking over the business we made this a little more accessible for visitors as well as residents of san francisco to visit. many of our teas were traditionally labeled only in
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chinese for the older generation. today of our tea drinkkers are quite young. it is easy to look on the website to view all of our products and fun to come in and look at the different varieties. they are able to explore what we source, premium teas from the providence and the delicious flavors. san francisco is a beautiful city to me as well as many of the residents and businesses here in chinatown. it is great for tourists to visit apsee how our community thrived through the years. this retail location is open daily. we have minimal hours because of our small team during covid. we do welcome visitors to come
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in and browse through our products. also, visit us online. we have minimal hours. it is nice to set up viewings of these products here. sustainability mission, even though the bikes are very minimal energy use. it still matters where the energy comes from and also part of the mission in sustainability is how we run everything, run our business. so having the lights come on with clean energy is important to us as well. we heard about cleanpowersf and learned they had commercial rates and signed up for that.
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it was super easy to sign up. our bookkeeper signed up online, it was like 15 minutes. nothing has changed, except now we have cleaner energy. it's an easy way to align your environmental proclivities and goals around climate change and it's so easy that it's hard to not want to do it, and it doesn't really add anything to the bill. >> chair ronen: good morning. the meeting will come to order. this is the may 4, 2022 budget and finance committee. i'mup
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