requiring h.s.h. to implement a system to allow individuals experiencing homelessness to register for shelter by telephone which provides a way for both geographic equity and operationalizing it and also provides folks who are not currently on the sidewalk but are experiencing homelessness in need of shelter beds away to access it in a way that's easy, that's low barrier and allows them to get in. so those are the things that are substantiative in my amendment. >> chairman: thank you. i did want to point out one other proposed amendment from you that i think is important and that's page 12, line 5,

item 3. it says an analysis of the cost effectiveness of different shelter and you added homelessness prevention and permanent supportive housing models which addresses the association between each model and the outcomes for clients. and then additionally on page 13, line 17, item c, the city shall not fund operation of new shelters with funds that may not be lawfully using for those purposes including tax revenue designated by the voters for use to support behavioral health treatment and permanent housing. so thank you. >> supervisor melgar: thank you for talking, supervisor mar. >> chairman: supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: sorry. nitpicking for the title, i would suggest it's shelter expansion and permanent

supportive housing program because my assumption is the idea is expanding the shelter, it's not to expand permanent supportive housing. that's all. >> chairman: yeah. well, thank you, supervisor melgar, for your work on these amendments. i think these really help to address some of my concerns around, you know, the legislation as it was originally drafted and really ensuring that our plan to expand shelter is really done in coordination and in close coordination with our plan to address homelessness in a long term permanent way through permanent supportive housing and affordable housing and services and then also that the

key point around reimplementing a telephone registration system just to make it easier for folkses who are living in shelter to be able to get to request shelter. so i appreciate those. supervisor stefani. >> supervisor stefani: thank you, i just have a quick question, did supervisor chan move all three amendments together? >> chairman: supervisor chan moved to adopt supervisor melgar's amendments. >> supervisor stefani: okay. as we mentioned, i was find with the nonsubstantiative amendment and not with the other two. i don't think it's going to matter, but if anybody wanted to split that, i'd be fine or not. >> clerk: mr. chair, if we can divide the question on

supervisor melgar's amendments if that's the case. >> chairman: so. >> clerk: we have three amendments that you guys have called out. if you'd like to take them one by one we can do that and divide the question on it. >> chairman: okay. yeah. >> clerk: would you like to do that? >> chairman: sure. >> clerk: okay. we can go ahead and take the first one regarding shelter and adding after shelter with supervisor chan's addition to shelter expansion and permanent housing program and that is changed throughout the legislation. >> if i may just clarify one thing about that amendment, that word is added throughout, so it would expand the scope of the plan and it would expand the scope of the program. the other change that's in there, but maybe not so obvious is that the current proposal

requires that the city try to estimate the number of beds or units that would be required for all the people experiencing homelessness and supervisor melgar's version is a little more expansive and would require for all the people experiencing homelessness with the expecting number who would not accept it. >> chairman: so the first one is clearly substantiative, expanding the scope of the plan and implementation and the other one that's substantiative is reinstating the telephonic registration system. those are the two substantiative amendments,

right. okay. >> supervisor chan: yes. i will make the motion to the amendments to add permanent supportive housing throughout the legislation so that it reads as shelter and permanent supportive housing. >> chairman: supervisor melgar. >> supervisor melgar: just so i understand, i really liked your shelter expansion and permanent supportive housing. can i accept that on the fly, city attorney? >> are you talking about the title. >> the short title is something that's prepared by the city attorney's office to comply with noticing requirements. but it's not something that the board amends. >> supervisor melgar: okay. >> supervisor chan: i make that motion so you have to call the roll.

>> chairman: yeah. why don't we call roll on that. >> clerk: on the motion for the divided question for the first amendment to supervisor melgar's proposal, [roll call] there are two ayes. >> chairman: thank you. supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: and, i'll make the second motion to amend to add the register for shelter by telephone. >> chairman: can we call roll on that, madam clerk. >> clerk: on the second divided question to supervisor melgar's amendment, [roll call] there are two ayes. >> chairman: thank you. >> supervisor chan: and then i

think the third was for the rest. i don't know. >> chairman: the rest of supervisor melgar's amendments that are nonsubstantiative. >> supervisor chan: yeah. so the rest will be. i will make the motion to amend the definitions which is adding the definition of like homelessness prevention and permanent supportive housing. >> chairman: great. please call roll. >> clerk: yes, on the third divided question, [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chairman: thank you. >> chairman: so deputy city attorney. >> i think it might be worthwhile to take one final vote. there are a couple issues that are remaining that i don't think were captured in the descriptions of the motions taken so far. so just a vote to approve the

expansion that i described previously that applies both to the analysis and the program itself that would expand those not only to look at people i thought the last one was just definitions, the stated motion. >> [ indiscernible ] >> those definitions appear throughout so, are yeah. >> [ indiscernible ] >> i think so. i think we haven't captureded 100%.

>> chairman: actually, and then, can we just clarify this point. so the third motion that supervisor chan made that we adopted was only adopting the amendments to the definition section. >> that was the motion that i heard and i think madam clerk agrees. >> chairman: there are additional amendments that supervisor melgar had presented that are part of the implementation plan or the plan in the implementation. >> there are a small number of additional amendments that i think haven't been captured yet including the language that would prohibit the use of funds that are allocated for other types of projects. so i just don't want the committee to miss anything that is intended to change. >> chairman: supervisor

mandelman. >> supervisor mandelman: yeah. i think we somehow split. the buckets that we have described have been voted on three times for two buckets and the third bucket which was the item on which i think we were all agreed about not breaking the law has not been voted on. right? >> chairman: supervisor stefani. >> supervisor stefani: i'd like to move to rescind that last vote. >> chairman: okay. and that's -- okay. >> supervisor stefani: the last motion regarding the definitions. >> chairman: okay. madam clerk. >> clerk: on the motion to rescind the last vote on the third divided question, [roll call]

there are three ayes. >> chairman: thank you. supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: i'll make the motion to amend the definition as well as the implementation and evaluation to add both the permanent supportive housing as well as the -- my apologies, homelessness -- oh, my gosh, my apologies for going too fast. now i lost my place. i will make the motion to move to amend the definition of --

there we go. i will move to amend homeless -- amend the definitions of homelessness prevention as well as the permanent supportive housing and save overnight parking lot that is on page 9 and then it would then continue through to the implementation and evaluation. is that sufficient motion? >> i'm a little concerned it doesn't capture 100% of the amendments that are in the document. my understanding is the committee has approveded the addition of permanent housing. of the second motion was approved the telephonic line. now, the committee could consider a motion to approve everything else at this point or everything except for something. i think at this point there's

definition that is need to be added throughout. >> supervisor chan: if i make the motion to say we accept everything else, we amend everything else with the exception of the telephonic registry and permanent supportive housing? >> supervisor stefani: i'm thinking because -- i mean, at this point you have the votes. why don't you just move it and i'll just vote no. at this point. >> chairman: okay. thank you. supervisor chan has moved that we accept the rest of the remainder that supervisor melgar presented that weren't covered in the first two motions and these are nonsubstantiative. please call roll. >> clerk: on the motion we're taking the third divided question again on the balance of supervisor melgar's proposed amendments, [roll call]

there are two ayes. >> chairman: thank you. and, so i think we basically adopted the amendments that the three sets of amendments today that supervisor mandelman, supervisor safai, and supervisor melgar have presented. and deputy city attorney pierson, it seems like you're going to see if there's any overlap in language and just clean that up if there's nothing significant. >> i think we identified one overlap and i understood from supervisor mandelman he was moving to accept the language in supervisor safai's conflicting language. so i think i have my marching orders. >> chairman: great. thank you. supervisor chan. >> supervisor chan: and with that, i withdraw my motion to continue the item. >> chairman: okay. thank you. >> because the amendments are substantiative, the item will have to be continued. >> chairman: so i would move that we continue this to the next meeting of the p.s.n.s. committee. it is may 26th.

>> yes. >> clerk: so on the motion to continue item number three to the may 26th, 2022, psns meeting as amended, [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chairman: thank you. everyone. thanks again, supervisor mandelman. supervisor melgar and colleagues and everybody from the public. this will be continued. why don't we go back to -- we need to finish up item four. so deputy city attorney pierson, i know my office was in communication with you about an amendment to this that would allow us to keep this. >> i understand from the clerk that there actually is a little bit of room in the calendar to

continue the item because the original is only at the mayor's office right now and there's 30 more days before it goes into effect. i understand it's okay to continue it with the intention of amending it at the next meeting. >> chairman: sounds good. i'll move that we continue item four to the call of the chair. madam clerk. >> clerk: on the motion to continue item number four to the call of the chair or may 26th? may 26th is the last opportunity. >> chairman: state that then. >> clerk: item number four will be continued to may 26th. [roll call] there are three ayes. >> chairman: great thank you. madam clerk, is there any further business? >> clerk: that concludes our business for today. >> chairman: we are adjourned.

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requirement. we have families that can't take a hit like that because they have to make three meals instead of one meal. >> for the lunch, we have turkey sandwiches. right now, we have spaghetti and meat balls, we have chicken enchiladas, and then, we have cereals and fruits and crackers, and then we have the milk. >> we heard about the school districts, that they didn't know if they were going to be able to provide it, so we've been successful in going to the

stores and providing some things. they've been helpful, pointing out making sure everybody is wearing masks, making sure they're staying distant, and everybody is doing their jobs, so that's a great thing when you're working with many kid does. >> the feedback has been really good. everybody seems really appreciative. they do request a little bit more variety, which has been hard, trying to find different types of food, but for the most part, everyone seems appreciative. growing up, i depended on them, as well, so it reminds me of myself growing up. >> i have kids at home.

i have six kids. i'm a mother first, so i'm just so glad to be here. it's so great to be able to help them in such a way because some families have lost their job, some families don't have access to this food, and we're just really glad to be

>> president moran: meeting of the san francisco public utilities commission to order. please call the roll. [ roll call ] vice president ajami is excused. we have a quorum. this meeting is held in person at the san francisco hall room 400 authorized by the california government code and mayor breed's 45th supplement to february 25, 2020 emergency proclamation. i like to remind individuals present and attending in person today, all health and safety protocols and building rules must be adhered to. hand sanitizer stations are