and communitydevelopment suffers from the same lack of public input , transparency, oversight andaccountability . today's hearing however shows outside the mayor's office of housing and community development there is a movement of communities directly impacted by the affordable housing crisis that is providing practical and robust pro housing solutions to address the housingcrisis . community labor working together. our communities are offering solutions to address the housing insecurity for which is most pressing issues, behavioral health andworkforce crisis that are directly related . our public institutions need to change and change who they must serve. to this day the mayor's office of housing has been impervious to public input on i funding and oversight for prop i. mohcd has lacked transparency and showed little regard for the use of revenue andprograms

we have approved . today is an opportunityto change all that . this budget process will begin in june. i think it makes sense we continue this item to the call of the chair to have a parallel process to see how mohcd is incorporating its recommendations in their interpretation ofaffordable housingplans . i hope you can work hard with them . they work hard together in san francisco politics in a new direction that can supportour community . >> good to see you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon committee members. and chair ronen thank you so much. i'm a district 9 resident. in district 9 i'm the founder of a co-op they're called barney's place affordable housing corporationand this is a co-op for people living with hiv and aids .i'm proud

because in the years since we founded it in 2015i've seen our co-op stabilize people in need . i'd like to see more advocacy done. i'm here to speak out in support of the recommendations for the funds on prop i. thank you, your awesome on prop i thank you so much. >> is it marty orcarrera ? >> between 24th and 27th. >> i but it just got redistricting there . thanks. >> thanks so much for your comments. as that completes are in person to in the chamber jim smith with department of technology. can you unmutethe first color please ? >> public institution governed by the people, we can then make investmentdecisions .

and it can advance racial social economic and environmental justice . >> ask for your comments, mistersmith , next colorplease . >> good afternoon supervisors. i was the co-author of prop k 2020. i'm calling in support of the housing fund oversight recommendation for spending 136 million of prop i's revenue as was intended in 2020. specifically i want to remind all supervisors in the mayor's office that prop k passed 74 percent of the vote and represents a voter mandate for the city to create public housing for all system. the oversight board recommends $3 million for feasibility analysis which includes

studying the creation of a municipal housing agency to run public housing for all . i care about this because we need the public housing that prop k authorizes. most can't afford to live in san francisco let alone buy a home. even to people with the city job can't compete with corporations buying up homes. the private sector has completely failed to provide us with affordable well-maintaine homes and we need to create a system that guarantees housing and human rights . our city needs publichousing for all and that can take the form of rental . if you want to show that you're listening to the will of the voters i urge you in the mayor's office toapprove this one $36 million i social housingrecommendations including the studies . thank you. >> you for your comments . we currently have 14 members of the public on this hearing with

eight in the queue. so if you have, please dialá3 to line up to speak. mister smith next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm a member of the housing stability oversight board and hunters point resident and activist and close collaborator withthe san francisco construction trade . this allows me to bring a perspective on a range of stakeholders from construction workers and public employees to my ownneighbors living in public housing . the proposal contains in our report is part of a comprehensive vision demanded by our city and i urge you in the strongestpossible way to do everything you can . we know that the city housing crisis is a privately financed

development and supports this report. the city would show more than 800,000 housing systems including 53,000 units affordable below 120 percent of the area medianincome . the projections of future development we still are short by about 6000 units but our affordable housing gap grows. meanwhile you've heard the data coming from our workers report. all this to say that our needs are invested and we must put the pedal to the metal. to that end i urge you to look at ways of leveraging the robust revenue streams of prop i and to allow us to build the housing we need. we have a number of excellent proposals in the report. i want to call out what's being

proposed by supervisor mar and funding to help fill up the capacities that we need in the city to be able to make this program meet the needs of san franciscans and the aspiration . >> the speakers time has elapsed. thank youso much for your comments . mister smith, next speaker please. >> my name is simone martinelli, one of the co-authors of prop k and i spoke at the rally earlier today in support of public housing for all and every one of the otherrecommendations by the stability oversight board . i won't take too much time but iwant to emphasize this . there is no reason whatsoeverto delay spending this money on the oversight board

recommendation . this money shouldnot be spent on more police . it should not be spent on anything else because it was dedicated for housing by the voters. we have the money and the community hascreated a list of ideas that can be funded by money we have right now. this committee and the entire board needs to hold the line and spend thismoney as the community hasdemanded . the voters gave us a mandate with the passages of prop iand now it is time for the board to make sure all these recommendations are funded in the upcoming budget . thank you . >> thank you for your comments. next speaker please . >> i am sorry. good afternoonsupervisors . today i am 78 years old. with a 41 year diagnosis of chronic spinal injury where i've been paralyzed from the neck down.

with a 31 year diagnosis of a terminal illness . and ihave to walk up a flight of stairs to get to my apartment . there's no way i can move to another apartment because the rents in the city are too high. what's going to happen when i can no longer climb thestairs ? how will i maintain my health and my well-being? we have a number looking on the street at the homeless people and you see a lot of them are right up here. talkingabout those seniors, how can they live in an environment that is totally unhealthy and still survive?we have the means . we have the ability to get out and try to help them help themselves . all we have to do is stand up for it. and we all need tostand up . thank you. >> thank you for participating.

mister smith, next speaker. >> we just going to have a discussion. >> i think we mighthave another day still . >> speaker, if you are providing the hearing it is your turn. >> hello. >> it's your turn. >> thank you. my name is yesterday, i'm a senior with disabilities. i want to say that i support the housing stability fund oversight boardalong with the rest of my community . and the recommendation for funding sro and for deeply affordable housing for seniors.

i say all this because my community are suffering trying to survive in the city living in horribleconditions and sro which has caused many deaths . a lot of sros, the living condition is awfuland many people have died . and also i want to say we need to define what deeply affordable means because affordabledoesn't always mean affordable for our community and our population . we want deeply affordable housing for people who are facing homelessness and people with disabilities . otherwise this has become an epidemic. people in my community are suffering . we need this to go through and impairments are elevated, thank you. >> thank you for yourcomments,

mister smith, next speaker please . >> good afternoon supervisors and theaudience. this is anastasia , member of san francisco tenants union. i'm really impressed by the work that the housing stability fund group has put in and their thoughtful program of spending hundred $36 million. i am really hoping that the mayor and mohcd will acknowledge the work that's been put in and what is needed in our city andrelease those funds . iq. >> thank you anastasia for you comments . mister smith, next speaker please. >> supervisors, now that we have the housing stability and fund oversight board, we have

to approach the federal government. to into the infrastructure bil . we have entities in the city that don't have a vision and most of the supervisors they do say something but it means nothing atall . the infrastructure bill is the stability fund oversight goal. that funds such as proposition i have is wait for the benefit of the community. it's not given to the communit . they will take it into consideration and we can get over $1 billion. i said over $1 billion.

in the billion dollars, we have to link to quality-of-life issues. high-speed internet. solar. quality drinking water. and so on and so forth. we are fed up with these entities that are there who have wasted millions of dollars from the stimulus money. shame on them. there is no accountability. no transparency in this most corrupt city in the united states of america. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. mister smith, next speaker please. >> good afternoon supervisors.

this is north beach and to the many workers here in north beach as well as in chinatown, we once had truly affordable housing that people could actually walk to their workplaces. because of that speculative market, because of some of our state laws we have lost so much of what was once affordable housing and we are not building affordable housing to meet the needs of these workers who are now actually travelingfrom antioch to their long time jobs . please, please support the recommendations that this oversight board has given you as well as releasethe money , the funds that we the city of san francisco voted for. thank you so much. >> thank you teresa for your comments. esther smith, next speaker please.

>> can you hear me?my name is vince. i live in district 6. i'm personally with hiv for over 34 years. i am speaking in my capacity as a lgbt person and i want to make sure that you get to the attention of a proposal submitted by gap of four lgbtqi+ social housing. it's a need for district 8 and i also want to echo and support comments made by justin earlie . he's a senior disability action. i want to mention that seniors

and people with disabilities are not interchangeable. they should be separate for each and i want to make sure older people are in that group. they often 72 percent of the people are over the age of 50 in san francisco. there are different incomes, many much lowerthan a traditional senior. i just want to make sure they're included in that . >> thank you so much for your comments. next speaker please. >> my name is richardgirling and i live in district 9 . i'm also a democrat. i bought a house 30 years ago and my mortgage is less than most people rent today. it's ridiculous.along with 74 percent of the population.

we need affordable housing in sanfrancisco . we need to provide people with a safe place to live so that people don't have to live in ... [inaudible] you must approve the million immediatel , preserving housing that we desperately need . >> thank you for your comments richard . mister smith, next speaker please. >> speaker: good afternoon supervisors, committee. i want to thank you all for holding this hearing today and urge the board and mayor's office to support the

recommendations of the housing stability fund oversight board. proposition k and i was really a mandate to try new things for affordable housing in san francisco. our current models for creating housing and affordable housing are not working and with this funding we have the opportunity to invest in land acquisitions and that's a non- tax credit project to invest in much-needed upgrades to our affordable housing dock of seniors for people with disability and bigger projects like municipal social housing as one of our speakers spoke to before so i urge the committee and board and the mayor to work on implementing all these recommendations into the upcoming budget and following the voters lead and taking this opportunity to take some steps

towards new sustainable housing solutions that are affordable for our communities. >> mister smith, nextspeaker please . >> good afternoon. i'm in district 5. i support the recommendations of the oversight board. as i'm especially interested in the funding for the study using the million dollars to study social housing models. we need not just one project for social housing but we need an entire ecosystem and social housing to really achieve public housing at scale. i believe it's crucial that we create class consciousness for social housing and that means

class consciousness for everyone in thecity . there's a need for the market that's greatlyreduced . thank you. >> thank you robert for your comments. mister smith next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i'm in district 7 resident and i'm a member of the san francisco housing committee. i'm calling in support of the housing stability fund oversight board recommendations for spending 136 million in profit i revenue on social housing as the board intended wepressed past profit i . the oversight board recommends 3 million for city staffing and feasibility analysis which includes studying the creation of a municipal housing agency

to run public housing forall which would mandate from the voters that passed 5k with 74 percent of the vote . i really care about this because we needed a form of public housing that authorizes . i grew up in the city and have seen a lot of families move out as funding becomes unaffordable and the private sector has simply failed to provide us with affordable and well-maintained homes so this guarantees housing as a human right . if you want to show your will to the voters i urge you to approvethis fall 136 million and prop i total housing recommendations >> you for yourcomments . mister smith, next speaker please . >> hello. my name is betty traynor. i'm board president of senior disability action and i'm here to support all the housing stability fund oversight board

recommendation but in particular the sro elevator repair that's so needed in the hotel prior to my comments. seniors and people with disabilities also the funding to make housing truly affordable for seniors and people with disabilities through the project based rental subsidies that are in your recommendation . we talked about people whose incomes are over 50 percent a.m. high-level to rent affordable housing.the seniors and people with disabilities we know have influencethat is much closer to 15 percent of ami and only 1000 or less per month .they can't afford the usual affordable senior housing presented to them so i wanted to thank the housing stability fund oversight board for including the elevator repair installation and to your affordablesenior rental

subsidies with expansion to people with disabilities . this is a truly innovative recommendation andi really want to thank the oversight board. iq . >> thank you betty traynor for yourcomments . mistersmith, next speaker please . >> hello. my name is patricia according. good afternoon to the supervisors. i live in d8 and i am a member of the berniecrats housing committee. i want to thank the committee for supporting funding on prop i last year and to supervisor preston for your leadership on prop i and its implementation i'm calling because i want to see the recommendations made by the housing stability oversight board fully funded . every one of them recommendations. i asked you to show you are listening to the voters by

proving the full 136 million in prop i funds. in addition i want to remind you prop k passed with almost 3/4 of the vote. a clear mandate for the city to create a public housing for all system and relevant to that one of the recommendations from the oversight board was for 3 million for city staffing and feasibility about this and includes studying the creation of a visible housing agency to run public municipal housing. we desperately need a public not for profit system that guarantees housing as a human right. thank you very much. >> you patricia for your comments. checking with the queue right now. i believe that wasour last caller . and with no in person speakers in the chamber we've completed the queue. >> public comment is closed.

supervisor preston. >> thank you chair and thank you to all the folks who called in or came in and who have been part of this community led process to make these recommendations. it's really some of the commenters and presenters i spoke with this has been a truly broad coalition of labor, community groups and placement advocates, affordable housing advocates coming together and i want to sometimes when things and up withso much unity consensus , we forget the difficult challenges of getting there and just there are a lot of priorities, a lot of different communities that are served by these recommendations. a lot of difficult conversations of navigating although prop i is bringing us money is not a tool up front.

having these hard conversations and getting to a point of consensus took a lot of leadership and work outside of this building. i do share the sentiment that i think a lot of us and probably colleagues all of you feel it would be wonderful to be attaching some extra zeros to these recommendations with the help of the federal and state government. we all recognize even with the funds and there's many things we can do with that to scale up on some of these models that we're going to need state and federal help but i think there's a lot we as a city are not going to sit by and wait until we have a federal government after half a century start investing in public housing or state government that prioritizes affordable housing . i will say this though in closing. i think there should be ignored

no controversy here. i'm amazed at the level of organized and necessary to shake some sense into government. the community has done the work here. we helped this get to the ballot but the voters of the city saw through all the real estate industry spin and the lies and the mandate and gave us a mandate to deliver prop i and deliver on prop k. the community did the work to meet and develop consensus. we have unanimous recommendations from the stability fund oversight board and i think it is really important now that all of us unite to follow, to deliver on these recommendations and i

really appreciate the comment from community members before the public comments about that commitment and i would just strongly urge that the mayor's office to include these recommendations inthe budget . i think it's an area where there should be and i think there is some level of broad agreement on affordable housing as a priority for our city. and i really hope this is one of hopefully many certainly one area where political or personal differences don't get in the way of delivering housing that we need for folks who are low income, folks who are working class in the city and county of san francisco where the systems that we have in place have done some good but have not gotten to the point where we deliver the housing that people need in this city. so we need these ideas from

community advocates and we need to listen to what voters say, follow through on what the board said unanimously and i would urge the mayor's office to consider these recommendations and include them in the budget comes to the board.and chair ronen i'd like to request we continue this item if the committee is available tocontinue it to the call of the chair .>> thank you so much for your leadershi as well . he's doing this deep analysis and i really appreciateyou . with that colleagues i'd like to make a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. >> on that motion by chair ronen seconded by chair walton

that this be continued to the call of the chair. [roll call vote] we have 4 aye's can you call item number three. >> item 3 is a hearing. to report on federal aid funding and what is needed to fill the gaps where reduction in service to maintain a robust resources for the reduction of infection and support for thos living with hiv . members who wish to provide public comment should call 415-655-0001. meeting id is 2488607 7768 . bring it around twice if you haven't done so, pressáthree. the prompt will indicate you haveraised your hand and please wait till the system indicates

you have been under muted and you may begin your comments . >> thank you and inspector bloom. >> thank you so much. you have a presentation that you're going to give us? fantastic. >> representative, board of supervisors. it's an honor to be here to represent to you about hiv care services. my name is phil bloom, i'm director of hiv health services and tracy packer, my co-presenter is the director of community health education and director of prevention service including hiv prevention . i know that we're tight on time so our presentation will consist intosections . we're going to give direct responses to the questions that came from your office and we will be able to rep them if they'rehelpful to you during the questions and answers .

there are about 13 slides so we'regoing to give key points on each and again we can go back and fill in . next slide please. this shows you a picture of federal funding. if you look at the pie chart on your left, it shows the total funding for the current fiscal year for hiv health services. the pie chart shows you all the services and the graph shows you the trends in federal funding reduction over thepast 20 years andyou can see we've been reducing 50 percent and currently it's a little over 15 billion . nextslide please . so this next slide is around changes in care funding . a box on the left tells the story. we haven't had funding reductions to funding and hiv care services since 2010 and really that's thanks to

community advocacy as well as support from you andprevious folks on the board of supervisors as mayor's office which has filled . and also traditional funding is coming next to the board of supervisors and additional servicesfor people with hiv. next slide please . this kind of shows the reversed story.this is a question around general fund contributions to hiv care. on your left is you see the current picture and then on the right you can see in the blue is the reduction of the federal funds and an increased offset that providing general. next slide please. this slide here shows you how are we doing? we give you kind of three points for comparison. one is kind of overall in the usa.the second is the city of californiaand the third is us

here in san francisco . give you the caveat that those are folks receiving medical care through hiv funded services and cph. that's basically our safety net population which will be different than some of the slides jc ispresenting which i the city overall . next slide please .this slide gets at the change of the demographics and we pulled out five populations that are of concern because of how disparity, the comparison is 52,010 versus 2020 and you can see the bottom line there shows our current state. and yes, i'll further note we've had a reduction in the total number ofpatients we serve , 7564 in 2010. next slideplease . >> finally this is just a map

that shows you the different places in san francisco people can receivehiv prevention and care services and output it over to jason now . >> good afternoon,thank you so much .i'll be talking about credential funding and changes we'veseen . i'll mention data and then i'll talk about how dph is addressing health disparities and working to achieve equity as well as the health department. next slide please. sorry. she's ahead of me. this slide is basically sharing with you the hiv credential funding the city receives. the bulk of the funding is san francisco general fund. we have four pots of cdc funding right now. this is the bulk of the funding so this includes funding that goesout to community organizations . other community partners as dcf and staff. next slide please.

this slide shows you on the left again the pie chart breakdown of the funding and on the right is the changes. i'll point out here that in 2018 which was the calendar year the cdc shifted their formula to focus on disparities across the us. the southern part of the us is not getting the level of funding that matched the disparities there so cities like san francisco that have been overall doing well .significantly but thanks to you the city leadership and i want to say our community partners here, those cuts were backfilled by general fund so that's why you see the increase on the orange bars. next slide please. so for changes i wanted to focus on the content of prevention. we know we've seen huge improvements in hiv prevention

and care and we have had opportunities, we've seen health outcomes improve in san francisco. however we continue to have disparities and we needed to focus on those. first of all i want to highlight some of those in the slide . you've seen this slide before i'm sure. this demonstrates that new diagnosis in san francisco continue to decrease. we're working towards zero. i want to point out briefly you see a bit of an increase in 21. we think this probably is related to the testing during shelter in place. we have to analyze that furthe . next slide please. this slide shows you diagnosis by race, ethnicity and this is one of our biggest disparities

taking place. we see a decrease in new diagnosis amongall populations . however the decline is steeper among white people and slower with black african-american community. when we split this by gender we see a significantly higher rate of diagnosis among black african-americans and latinx. these are two populations where work must be done. next slide please. this slide shows viral suppression and as gail said earlier among the population that this group is responsible for its at 80 percent overall in the city it's at 70 percent and as bill said our responsibility is the entire city. all members of the city are partof our target population . but you will see this policy

has a lower viral suppression rate than the average. these are also disparities so that the people who are not getting access to care, they're not getting access to medication. there are many things such as housing that create barriers for them. so given these ... >> chair: could you explain the acronym pwid. >> pwid is people who inject drug and men who have sex with men who inject drugs. trans men, yes. people who inject and i think that'sit. thank you, appreciate that . i speak in acronyms sometimes. these persistent disparities have been going on for many years. recently we pulled together, we

needed to shift our direction. what do we need to do differently? we began by pulling the community together.we met with multiple community groups about the hundred 60 people to get their input on how to address the disparities. this is the outcome of that process . they said we needed to develop community centered approaches and integrateservices . we needed to focus on social determinants of health such as housing and mental health for people with hiv and people at risk so an approach where everyone could fully integrate hepatitis c and std and harm reduction, overdose protection and ensure that we use racial justice and racial equity. there's additional points below but i'll move on to the next thing we can talk about. this is the outcome and next

slideplease . in order to implement the recommendations with the community process the dph developed a model called health access point. these are equity focused humidity centered whole person care approaches to integration ofhiv hepatitis . and our whole person one-stop shop population specificsites . the populations on the left are those populations have emerged as having the highest level of disproportionate rates of new infections or low viral suppression sothere will be , there is a hack being developed for each of those populations. whilethere focused on specific populations all are welcome so anyone can go anywhere .

the goal is to develop a location of welcoming environment forpeople in that group . next slideplease . this is the last slide and this describes the services. here you see the goal to provide comprehensive services including basic needs so people can come there for the basic needs and get linked to care that they need or want and this model has allowed us to integrate further prevention and linkage that will be sustainable to the work that we've been doing . so i will stop there and see if there are questions or comments that you have thank you. i have some questions. let me first ask you some questions and i have a couple of questions for miss

graffenberger. given this equitycenter approach , these were concerns with what supervisor mandelman sent to me and he wasn't here although i share the concerns . white in this budget is it one of the only organizations serving spanish-speaking and portuguese speaking individuals andasylum-seekers that are living with hiv eight ? why didthey get such asevere reduction ? >> that's a great question . in those seven populations that we share there's one health access point for each of those. we had an rfp process and the highest score received the funds for that health access point. unfortunately the rfp process

is not over the funding notifications having gone out so it's not public information but i can tell you that the health access point that will be providing services for latinx communities will be provided by latinx organizations that have bilingual and english speakers. >> and they have portuguese speaking spanish speaking skills come from those communities and understand those cultures have a history of working in those communities yes. >> okay. it's not only they that have lost tremendous amounts of fundings, it'smany other organizations . it just so happens to be the

organization that has you know, such a long history of success working in the community. so what happens to those organizations that all of a sudden have massive holes in their budget and are not going to be able to continue the work with individuals that they gained a reputation serving? it doesn't appear obvious to me and certainly to thecommunity and want to hear a lot of public comment about this . are the new organizations going to be funded where all that money is going to be diverted to have that same history and level of engagement and work with the communities that they're serving >> yes, thank you for raising that . it's always a challenging processwhen there's an rfp solicitation .

and it's difficult for all of us. i don't know. i wish it could be different. i hear you and i understand what you're saying. the answer is yes. in the rfp process which has been scored by an independent review panel of experts the agencies that are going to be funded or score the highest which indicated that they're ableto do that work . all of the agencies have experience in the work with the community or with hiv prevention or both. and one thing that you didn't exactly ask but i thinki'll answer anyway is if an agency is not providing the service and who will ? the new agencies will. for example if there was a strong testing program then one or all ofthe new agencies , the newly funded i'll call them would be providing that testin

. will there need to be some capacity building and strengthening? yes and we have funding set aside for thatfor ensuring that all agencies can shift as they need to . but i'll just say it was $8 million that was solicited. it's the same $8 million. is no decreasein funding but it was shifted to other organizations . >> when will we know the results of the rfp? >> i think next week. i checked today, it's aprocess . >> it's hard to ask specific questions about what those results are so i'll follow up with you separately i think after. once those come out . i'm wondering question for miss latinx. i'm proud to be part of a city

government that's prioritized eight funding and the federal government has started backing away from their responsibility to this community that the city has always stepped up. it's a point of pride for the city and every mayor and every board of supervisors has done it and thank goodness.i feel so proud tolive in a city like this . i'm just wanting to make sure that mayor breed is going to do again this year which he has done every other year for mayoral shift and backfilling anyfurther cuts . >> thank you for that question. ashley graffenberger. you correctly noted we have historically backfilled reductions in these areas at this point were not part expecting any but should any come between now and when the mayor introduces her budget in june we will certainly look at those and consider themas part of the upcoming budget .

which chances everything like a good budget director but i am assuming . i am assuming that the mayor is going to askconsistently as she always has . andfulfill those . please note for me it's a huge priority. i'll just tell a little story. i didn't always understand what a huge priority this was and when i was a legislative aide for supervisor compos there was a possibility of cutting some of these fundings. my coworker at the time said absolutely not, we're not cutting ascent fromhiv funding and isaid why ? haven't we got control of the virus ? he said no home and watch how to survive a play and i went home and i watched how to survive a play and i said under my wife we will never cut a sense of funding ever.

and it's become a huge priority of mine. for anyone listening out there who doesn't understand why this is so important and doesn't understand the first pandemic that so many people survived or so many people didn't survive in the city during the 80s and discrimination and the hate and the fight this community put on for their very own survival. it's one of the best documentaries i've ever seen. it changed my entire understanding of this fight and what it means and i highly recommend how to survive a plague. anyone who hasn't seen it, watch it. it's that impactful. supervisor. >> thank you for the presentation. i'm just looking at the demographic map in terms of where services are in san francisco . either we are doing an amazing job of keeping the entire west side from getting infected or

where not providing services across san francisco. i'm just curious why the map looks like this. >> i think one thing i'll add and i can turn it over to bill is one thing about prevention services is their inclusive of outreach so even though the site might be at this location and you'll notice there's an agency that has its headquarters inoakland, their services are provided across the city . however i do think there are gaps in the services and that's one of the things we're hoping to close with a health access point is that we're clear, we're clearly addressing the entire geographyespecially where we found the health disparities . >> the only reason i ask is i understand concentrated areas and why we have so many sites. usually you might see a spring or something but it's like the

entire. i'll just getting at that but that definitely stood out so i'm wondering from the data standpoint we doing that good ofa job in those areas which will be great to know . >> great question, glad everyone's paying such close attention. the answer is a few things. one, you're right. the incidence andprevalence is much lower in those parts of the city but this map shows you what we fund . it doesn't show you the extent of all folks capable of preventing hiv services so for instance out in the sunset we have ocean park health center and they have well capacity and enrollment workers so in terms of the care sidepeople , we may not be funding them with hiv dedicated dollars but there are hiv services inthose areas . >> thank you. >> thank you so much.

we're going to open it up for public comment if you have additional questions. >> members of the public who wish to speak and are joining usin person should line up to speak now . please call 415-655-0001 with a meeting id of 2488 607 7768 and hit twice once connected you will need to pressstart 3. for those already in the queue continue to wait until the system indicatesyou have been commuted . that will be your cue to begin comments . can we have the first speaker? >> good afternoon supervisors . myname is bill verse, director of the legal referral panel investor cochair of the hiv

aids provider network . i want to thank riser ronen and supervisor prop i for calling for this hearing and like supervisor ronen i am incredibly proud to live in the city that has made this commitment to serve this community . we are alone amongst jurisdictions in the country and using local dollars to backfill those federal cuts and i am so proud of the work that the city has done to reduce the number of infections. to reduce the number of deaths in san francisco but we still have work to do. while i appreciate the work of our partners at the apartment of health and thoughtfulness they put into some of the decisions that they're putting forward i fear there are unintended consequences which will happen at impact of destabilizing the system of care that we've come to rely upon. it is the same public health infrastructure that has helped the city to respond to the

current pandemic. and though we have seen flat funding in many years, we are seeing the system of care for a period and it will come apart. you are working on many of the issues around nonprofit sustainability it impacts all the partners in our community . i will briefly saywe hope the city will commit to the backfill of federal funds . we asked for parity for a cost of doingbusiness increase for ryan white contracts . we know that housing, mental health and substance use services are key for the city to reach its goals ofgetting 20 . thankyou . >> thank you bill hirsch for yourcomments. next year please . c8 i'm a staff attorney at the referral panel and i'm also a voter in district 5 and i have

had hivsince 2012 . i was really moved by what you said chair ronen. i was recently reading an essay by nan goldin. she wrote it in2021 and she said in the 80s there was a certain freedom and a sense of immortality that ended in that they . with everyone dying and everything shiftedwe lost a wholegeneration . we lost a culture . we didn't just lose the actors, we lost the audience and there were fewer people left with that kind of intensity. i'd like to share a story of a long-term survivorof a . he's eloquent, he'sgenerous . he's a gifted artist. and is trove of queer culture in history he is intense to say

the least. he is happy phobic which means he's afraidof getting tough but he gets his blood drawn several times a year . these are the phobic which prevents him from leaving the house as a senior citizen's medical needsare increasing . needless to say support groups don't help . he's been suspended from nearly every public service that i can support on. there is intense need for a well supported well-funded specialized individual help for folks like this that is not an entry-level position . it's time for our government to not feel comfortable placing the responsibility of caring for our community's most horrible people on folks can't affordto live in the city , who can't afford a parking ticket in the city . i love being here but we've got to dobetter on this one . >> thank you stephen for your

comments. next speaker please. >> good afternoon supervisors. department of public health thank you for this opportunity . i wasn't going to getemotional . my name is harry. i'm grateful for the city of san francisco and its department of public health and the many nonprofit organizations that it supports. i've recently turned 77. 42 years of that living with hiv. 15 living with a two-year death sentence and 26 with full-blown aids. i've been very lucky. to the casual observer surviving hiv aids is a good thing yet as outlined in the principles many of us are

challenged by mental exhaustio , depression,substance use , underinformed healthcare providers, housing instability. unemployment, expiring insurance benefits, poverty and stigma. for our support we depend on the many nonprofit organizations that are challenged by a lack of funding and are particularly unable to fully actualize the services needed especially by the lower income underrepresented and disadvantaged minorities in the city often resulting in an increase of hiv transmission. what if $1 million was allocated for treatment for long-termsurvival is mental health ? what if $1 million was allocated for intensive case management for persons living with hiv a? what if 3 million were

allocated for 3 million additional housing subsidies? what if 3million were allocated for preventative safety meds ? what if 2 million and the results were allocated to create safe consumptionsites to address the distressing , astounding staggering rate of overdose deaths. 30 seconds more please. >> unfortunately mister grove we can't do that. where tiny each speaker at two minutes for equity of time. unfortunately thespeakers time has expired . ... can't have you apologized for cutting everybody off but we're calling all speakers at twominutes . nextspeaker please. thank you for understanding .

i'm sorry, one more time c8 afternoon committee members, chair ronen. i'm a fourth-generation native san franciscan which means i wear many hats but today i'm here as the personwho survived 2 pandemics and has been living with hiv past 30 years .the first pandemic showed up two weeks before my 18th birthday in june 1981 by august my first close friend had died and my friends have been dying for 40 years. death or the specter of it has been in my constant companion every dayfor 40 years and when you list with that kind of loss , that kind ofcatastrophic grief takes its toll . now, we long-term survivors are mostly forgotten and overlooked during budget talks and program planning. we ourselves to the side while prevention methods such as syringe access everybody's

attention and focus. and funding. and while we support those efforts towards ending the pandemic we insist these efforts not drain resources for caring for those of us whobeen living with hiv 430 and in some cases 42 years let's face it. getting older isn't easy . getting older with hiv west and mark that difficult at best. nationwide 80 percent of those living with hiv are over the age of 50 in san franciscoalone , it's 72 percent which is why back in september 2020 my colleague and i wrote the san francisco principal. outlines our daily challenges as we face and our demands for inclusion and resources and funding and care that addresse our specific needs . just san francisco have a global standard in the 1980s where asking do so again and

one way to start is by recognizing and adopting the san francisco principles a citywide level. and not just within the city departments but within the agencies that the city funds as well . >> that was the speakers time, thank you so much next speaker please . >> good afternoon committee members and chair ronen. i'm michael. i am a codirectorof the san francisco principles 2020 and a longtime survivor with hiv . you for conducting this hearing to investigate the changes to federal funding and what is needed for san francisco to continue the fight against hiv there's the old adage , fight aids, not people with aids and we have to remind ourselves after time and time again we are on the same side. many of us are here today asking san francisco to join us in seeking a bigger commitment

to fight hiv and expand the pie from our collective advocacy to implementing what is needed to address decreasing viral depression rates especially among our homeless evidence in the last four from 39 down to 20 percent. expanding access to testing sites, increased mental health funding. increase in the number of housing subsidies available and commit to treating access to affordable housing as elf care. hearing in the presentation earlier i was wondering what some of the shifts in funding will there be oversight to spot any service gaps for disruptions inservice ? many of our assets are intended to focus on preventing the crisis from getting worse . that said there are so many areas that do not sufficiently address the need for people eating with hiv and in san francisco those currently livingwith hiv are over the age of 50 .

there make up around 72 percent of the population but with this hearing i'd like to take this opportunity to ask you for a resolution to adopt the san francisco principles 2020 four san franciscans andextend the right for people living with hiv and a . and to critically evaluate some of the projected budget planning hasfought everyone off guard another pandemic . we urge you to join us and recommit sanfrancisco back . thank you for your time. >> we areready for your comments . next speaker please. >> mining is greg cason. i am a 35 year survivor of hiv and i've lived in the city 198 . i actually lost housing in san francisco in themiddle of the pandemic . and i work at john dean, one of the oldest hiv organizations in

the country and i want to just earlier today when the community of elders stood when the representative was making a sound bite i want to just say how honored i am to be speaking here also alongside my fellow long-term survivors and just the power of being here together and speaking for the people who arestanding behind us that aren't here anymore . people that would be standing behind us that maybe didn't make it or had to leave san francisco. had to leave the city they help to build want to honor the us surgeon general. i just become the fan girl of vivek murthy.

there's a subtitle that both aretitled together . and the work is completely about social connection and how deeply human beings need a connection. they need to have a community that they can send their roots down the and to stay in and to see that community of elders standing and all of us here pleading to continue remaining in ourcommunity . to be able to get the resources of love and support fromone another . vivek murthy says it's as powerful as the obesity whethe you're a drinker ora smoker . it's whether you are socially isolated .thank you so much of. >> thank you greg for your comments . c8 thank you for inviting us. my name is hank trout, a 33 year survivor of a and one of

the co-authors of the san francisco principles 2020. rather than discuss specific policies i'd like to remind you exactly why most of us long-term survivors find ourselves in this position. in the 1980s and early 90s when our hiv diagnosis was a certain death sentence our doctors advised us that the best thing we could do for our physical and mental health was to quit work, live on disability insurance for the short remaining time wehad . he water and prepare to die. it may not many of us did so, we quit work and prepared to die andthen a funny thing happened . we didn't all die when we were supposed to . the prime of our lives we should have been investing in ourfuture, continuing our education , creating families settling into our reasonably comfortable life . instead we were kneecap by a virus and thrust into crippling

poverty. suddenly on top of the grief and the ptsd we suffered, after losing dozens upon dozens of our friends to aids, we were forced to navigate living in poverty in this very expensive city. the mental emotional and physical effects of that continue to plague us day after day, year after year. we need more housing subsidies for people living with aids and hiv who cannot afford $3000 per month for a one room studio in the tenderloin. we need economic assistance to be able to afford luxuries of life like food. we need far more funding for mental health services to deal with the ptsd and grief. we need huge investments and harm reduction to those of us who have turned to drugs.

>> i'm out of time. >> thank you for your comments. i need to apologize again for cutting anybody off that we are tiny each speaker at 2minutes . being we are out of in-person speakers are still working with the department of technology are now handling seven listeners of the public in this hearing with six of which in a few. if you do wish to speak on this hearing

. >>. >> speaker: supervisors, can you hear me? >> we can hear you.>> i live indistrict 6 , i'm aperson with hiv since 1987 . i'm a member of the human rights commission committee. and an author of the san

francisco principle. i want to thank the city for backfilling the federal cuts, i hope we will do that again but what i want to talk about his the destabilization of the safety net. we know it's unfortunately their lives change as quickly as our funding stream so when a bipoc person comes in and they can'tget them is no guarantee the work will come back . when the transgender gender nonconforming intersex person shows up for services, it's like the system is up anddown once again . since 2019 our staff has prevented 14,644 overdoses. this is not a system you want to destabilize. it isnot equitable . i applaud the idea that it goes to equity in san francisco but

it's not equitable to ask the organization to be put back together .this lacks funding. there's inflation and i want to remind people that we just gone through covid-19 which is the second pandemic of our lives and it shouldn't be business as usual. it is to be implemented and the stabilizing set could not beone of them . >> thank you for your comments. susanna, nextspeaker please . >> speaker: thank you for holding this hearing, i'm laura drummer director of policy at the san francisco aids foundation and i'm going to read a statement from doctor tyler of the aids foundation whounfortunately wasn't able to

stay on the line . san francisco and other community-based providers of hiv services will be impacted by the change to the prevention funding this year. these impacts will be felt by community members will rely on our accessible hivsubstance abuse services . while we support the goals we are concerned about the unintended consequences and the hiv prevention safety map particularly during the first few years where other organizations haveyet to reassess their prevention services . here we see approximately 6000 clients in our prep program who are black indigenous and people of color. we invest more than 10,000 tests yearly. we consistently identify nearly a quarter of thecity's new cases . we also provide hundreds of clients with special counseling andsupport .

these are all services that will be impacted by the change in prevention fund resulting in a significant change in availability of free and accessible services in our community. wait times that are already busy at clinics will increase. availability of hiv testing and treatment services and things that can and accesses will decrease . they are already severely lacking in underfunded will be impacted. i urge you to consider the serious ramifications of defunding hiv services and the debts that are likely to occur because of services to the community. i urge you to keep this momentum by ensuring the camera continues. >> thank you so much for your comments. susanna, next speaker please. >> speaker: good afternoon board of supervisors. my name is andy stone and i'm

with the san francisco foundation andadvocacy network . you so much supervisor ronen for calling a special hearing to talk about these very important critical issues related to the hivcare and prevention safety net in our city . as was just eloquently described by so many other speakers previously, the hiv community and our public health system in san francisco was built off the activism that resulted from and the experience of the hiv aids epidemic in the 80s . and now when covid-19 hit all of those same systems and organization really responded to the crisis that we were facing. now as we're trying to emerge from the covid-19 pandemic see how that impacted our ability to address other epidemics including the hiv epidemic

we're seeing there are huge holes and gaps that are being exposed. 44 percent hiv testing went down in the city by 44 percent and 2019. similarly the update has decreased. these are systems that were previously working well with our vision and commitment to get to zero transmission and yet now we're seeing because of everything that happened during the pandemic that our ability to respondas kind of been somewhat limited . now on top of that as you're trying tomove out of the pandemic , we're realizing that there's going to be a new model that's been implementedand we are concerned about the impact that that is going to have in terms of destabilization . the organizations that have been mainstays in the city providing a huge amount of services and have done an effective job at preventing new transmissionare looking at

multimillion dollar cuts to their budget . and that's not just in terms of servicesand access for communities . wecan't allow this to happen . >> so sorry to cut you off but thank youfor your comments . okay, i'm going to ask our partners at the department of technology to confirm there are no more colors in the queue. while iconfirm that there are no more in person speakers here in the chamber , madam chair that completes our questions public comment is closed. any questions? >> thank you care and thank you again to you and the revisor mandelman for calling this evening. i want to thank the provider network or meeting with my office and want to express phone support fortheir public support for their budget request . although as has been said here today although hiv manageable

for many people there is still no vaccine or cure. and according to the provider's network, people living with aids as we heard here today very eloquently and i want to thank the public comment is for calling out and those calling in, those living with hiv have concerns exacerbated by intersectional problems of poverty, depression, the cost of and access for healthcare and unstable housing. that's why these requests are so important here today and i especially want to signal my support for housing subsidies for those people living with hiv and aids and funding for mental health services for long-term survivors. as of the nearly 16,000 people living with hiv in san francisco 69 percent or 50 and older . so these long-term survivors need our focus. they need our support and

attention to ensure their health and well-being so thank you again revisor for coming out here today and thank you for all your wonderful testimony. >> i just want to echo supervisor safai. your testimony was both reached the heart and head at the same time and we were glued to every single word. that says a lot because we've been here 10 in the morning working and listening without a break so you've got to have a really impactful speaking still and style and speaking from your incredible life experience and everything you've been through sothank you for that . unfortunately wehave to end the hearing as we are in a rush . we will be keeping our eye closely on this issue. i echo supervisor safai and all the speakers that long-term

survivors need extra attention and support and that we need to focus on that. but there's tons of thanks to dph or your incredible groundbreaking work from really being wind of this crisis. you all the way of creating a model for the entire country and world on how to confront this pandemic and crisis and again, it's just something tobe very proud of when you come to san francisco , you know that we handle the firstpandemic of our lifetime better than anywhere else in the world . because of the people confronting this pandemic that we were that but it's something for us to all now carry with us and be proud of. so when not going to ... we

will keep our eye on thisissue throughout the entire budget process and you have our commitment and support . with that i think i'm going to file this hearing but we will keep our eye on this issue through the entire time. can i have a second motion to file this hearing? >> on that motion by chair ronen, seconded by member walton. [roll call vote] we have 4 aye's. >>. >> chair: do we have any other items today? >> that concludes our business. >> this meeting is adjourned. >>

>> roughly five years, i was working as a high school teacher, and i decided to take my students on a surfing field trip. the light bulb went off in my head, and i realized i could do much more for my students taking them surfing than i could as their classroom teacher, and that is when the idea for the city surf project was born. >> working with kids in the ocean that aren't familiar with this space is really special because you're dealing with a

lot of fear and apprehension but at the same time, a lot of excitement. >> when i first did it, i was, like, really scared, but then, i did it again, and i liked it. >> we'll get a group of kids who have just never been to the beach, are terrified of the idea, who don't like the beach. it's too cold out, and it's those kid that are impossible to get back out of the water at the end of the day. >> over the last few years, i think we've had at least 40 of our students participate in the city surf project. >> surfing helped me with, like, how to swim. >> we've start off with about two to four sessions in the pool before actually going out and surfing. >> swimming at the pool just helps us with, like, being, like, comfortable in the water

and being calm and not being all -- not being anxious. >> so when we started the city surf project, one of the things we did was to say hey, this is the way to earn your p.e. credits. just getting kids to go try it was one of our initial challenges for the first year or two. but now that we've been doing it three or four years, we have a group of kids that's consistent, and the word has spread, that it's super fun, that you learn about the ocean. >> starting in the morning, you know, i get the vehicles ready, and then, i get all the gear together, and then, i drive and go get the kids, and we take them to a local beach. >> we usually go to linda mar, and then occasionally ocean beach. we once did a special trip. we were in capitola last year,

and it was really fun. >> we get in a circle and group stretch, and we talk about specific safety for the day, and then, we go down to the water. >> once we go to the beach, i don't want to go home. i can't change my circumstances at home, but i can change the way i approach them. >> our program has definitely been a way for our students to find community and build friends. >> i don't really talk to friends, so i guess when i started doing city surf, i started to, like, get to know people more than i did before, and people that i didn't think i'd like, like, ended up being my best friends. >> it's a group sport the way we do it, and with, like, close camaraderie, but everybody's doing it for themselves. >> it's great, surfing around, finding new people and making new friendships with people

throughout surfing. >> it can be highly developmental for students to have this time where they can learn a lot about themselves while negotiating the waves. >> i feel significantly, like, calmer. it definitely helps if i'm, like, feeling really stressed or, like, feeling really anxious about surfing, and i go surfing, and then, i just feel, like, i'm going to be okay. >> it gives them resiliency skills and helps them build self-confidence. and with that, they can use that in other parts of their lives. >> i went to bring my family to the beach and tell them what i did. >> i saw kids open up in the ocean, and i got to see them connect with other students, and i got to see them fail, you know, and get up and get back on the board and experience success, and really enjoy

themselves and make a connection to nature at the same time. >> for some kids that are, like, resistant to, like, being in a mentorship program like this, it's they want to surf, and then later, they'll find out that they've, like, made this community connection. >> i think they provided level playing fields for kids to be themselves in an open environment. >> for kids to feel like i can go for it and take a chance that i might not have been willing to do on my own is really special. >> we go on 150 surf outings a year. that's year-round programming. we've seen a tremendous amount of youth face their fears through surfing, and that has translated to growth in other facets of their lives. >> i just think the biggest thing is, like, that they feel like that they have something

that is really cool, that they're engaged in, and that we, like, care about them and how they're doing, like, in general. >> what i like best is they really care about me, like, i'm not alone, and i have a group of people that i can go to, and, also, surfing is fun. >> we're creating surfers, and we're changing the face of surfing. >> the feeling is definitely akin to being on a roller coaster. it's definitely faster than i think you expect it to be, but it's definitely fun. >> it leaves you feeling really, really positive about what that kid's going to go out and do. >> i think it's really magical almost. at least it was for me. >> it was really exciting when i caught my first wave. >> i felt like i was, like -- it was, like, magical, really. >> when they catch that first

wave, and their first lights up, you know -- their face lights up, you know you have them hooked. >> i was on top of the world. it's amazing. i felt like i was on top of the world even though i was probably going two miles an hour. it was, like, the scariest thing i'd ever done, and i think it was when i got hooked on surfing after

>> we have private and public gardens throughout the garden tour. all of the gardens are volunteers. the only requirement is you're willing to show your garden for a day. so we have gardens that vary from all stages of development and all gardens, family gardens, private gardens, some of them as small as postage stamps and others pretty expansive. it's a variety -- all of the world is represented in our gardens here in the portola.

>> i have been coming to the portola garden tour for the past seven or eight years ever since i learned about it because it is the most important event of the neighborhood, and the reason it is so important is because it links this neighborhood back to its history. in the early 1800s the portola was farmland. the region's flowers were grown in this neighborhood. if you wanted flowers anywhere future bay area, you would come to this area to get them. in the past decade, the area has tried to reclaim its roots as the garden district. one of the ways it has done that is through the portola garden tour, where neighbors open their gardens open their gardens to people of san francisco so they

can share that history. >> when i started meeting with the neighbors and seeing their gardens, i came up with this idea that it would be a great idea to fundraise. we started doing this as a fund-raiser. since we established it, we awarded 23 scholarships and six work projects for the students. >> the scholarship programs that we have developed in association with the portola is just a win-win-win situation all around. >> the scholarship program is important because it helps people to be able to tin in their situation and afford to take classes. >> i was not sure how i would stay in san francisco. it is so expensive here. i prayed so i would receive enough so i could stay in san francisco and finish my school,

which is fantastic, because i don't know where else i would have gone to finish. >> the scholarships make the difference between students being able to stay here in the city and take classes and having to go somewhere else. [♪♪♪] [♪♪♪] >> you come into someone's home and it's they're private and personal space. it's all about them and really their garden and in the city and urban environment, the garden is the extension of their indoor environment, their outdoor living room. >> why are you here at this garden core? it's amazing and i volunteer here every year. this is fantastic. it's a beautiful day. you walk around and look at gardens. you meet people that love gardens. it's fantastic. >> the portola garden tour is the last saturday in september

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dev mission's goal is aiming to train young adults, youth so we can be a wealth and

disparity in underserved communities like where we are today. my name is leo sosa. i'm the founder and executive director for devmission. we're sitting inside a computer lab where residents come and get support when they give help about how to set up an e-mail account. how to order prescriptions online. create a résumé. we are also now paying attention to provide tech support. we have collaborated with the san francisco mayor's office and the department of technology to implement a broad band network for the residents here so they can have free internet access. we have partnered with

community technology networks to provide computer classes to the seniors and the residents. so this computer lab becomes a hub for the community to learn how to use technology, but that's the parents and the adults. we have been able to identify what we call a stem date. the acronym is science technology engineering and math. kids should be exposed no matter what type of background or ethnicity or income status. that's where we actually create magic. >> something that the kids are really excited about is science and so the way that we execute that is through making slime. and as fun as it is, it's still a chemical reaction and you start to understand that with the materials that you need to make the slime. >> they love adding their little twists to everything. it's just a place for them to experiment and that's really

what we want. >> i see. >> really what the excitement behind that is that you're making something. >> logs, legos, sumo box, art, drawing, computers, mine craft, and really it's just awaking opportunity. >> keeping their attention is like one of the biggest challenges that we do have because, you know, they're kids. they always want to be doing something, be helping with something. so we just let them be themselves. we have our set of rules in place that we have that we want them to follow and live up to. and we also have our set of expectations that we want them to achieve. this is like my first year officially working with kids. and definitely i've had moments where they're not getting something. they don't really understand it and you're trying to just talk to them in a way that they can make it work teaching them in different ways how they can get the light bulb to go off and i've seen it first-hand and it

makes me so happy when it does go off because it's like, wow, i helped them understand this concept. >> i love playing games and i love having fun with my friends playing dodge ball and a lot of things that i like. it's really cool. >> they don't give you a lot of cheese to put on there, do they? you've got like a little bit left. >> we learn programming to make them work. we do computers and programming. at the bottom here, we talk to them and we press these buttons to make it go.

and this is to turn it off. and this is to make it control on its own. if you press this twice, it can do any type of tricks. like you can move it like this and it moves. it actually can go like this. >> like, wow, they're just absorbing everything. so it definitely is a wholehearted moment that i love experiencing. >> the realities right now, 5.3 latinos working in tech and about 6.7 african americans working in tech. and, of course, those tech companies are funders. so i continue to work really hard with them to close that gap and work with the san francisco unified school district so juniors and seniors come to our program, so kids come to our stem hub and be exposed to all those things.

it's a big challenge. >> we have a couple of other providers here on site, but we've all just been trying to work together and let the kids move around from each department. some kids are comfortable with their admission, but if they want to jump in with city of dreams or hunter's point, we just try to collaborate to provide the best opportunity in the community. >> devmission has provided services on westbrook. they teach you how to code. how to build their own mini robot to providing access for the youth to partnerships with adobe and sony and google and twitter. and so devmission has definitely brought access for our families to resources that our residents may or may not have been able to access in the past. >> the san francisco house and development corporation gave us

the grant to implement this program. it hasn't been easy, but we have been able to see now some of the success stories of some of those kids that have been able to take the opportunity and continue to grow within their education and eventually become a very successful citizen. >> so the computer lab, they're doing the backpacks. i don't know if you're going to be able to do the class. you still want to try? . yeah. go for it. >> we have a young man by the name of ivan mello. he came here two and a half years ago to be part of our digital arts music lab. graduating with natural, fruity loops, rhymes. all of our music lyrics are clean. he came as an intern, and now he's running the program. that just tells you, we are

only creating opportunities and there's a young man by the name of eduardo ramirez. he tells the barber, what's that flyer? and he says it's a program that teaches you computers and art. and i still remember the day he walked in there with a baseball cap, full of tattoos. nice clean hair cut. i want to learn how to use computers. graduated from the program and he wanted to work in i.t.. well, eduardo is a dreamer. right. so trying to find him a job in the tech industry was very challenging, but that didn't stop him. through the effort of the office of economic work force and the grant i reached out to a few folks i know. post mates decided to bring him on board regardless of his

legal status. he ended his internship at post mates and now is at hudacity. that is the power of what technology does for young people that want to become part of the tech industry. what we've been doing, it's very innovative. helping kids k-12, transitional age youth, families, parents, communities, understand and to be exposed to stem subjects. imagine if that mission one day can be in every affordable housing community. the opportunities that we would create and that's what i'm

>> the bicycle coalition was giving away 33 bicycles so i applied. i was happy to receive one of them. >> the community bike build program is the san francisco coalition's way of spreading the joy of biking and freedom of biking to residents who may not have access to affordable

transportation. the city has an ordinance that we worked with them on back in 2014 that requires city agency goes to give organizations like the san francisco bicycle organization a chance to take bicycles abandoned and put them to good use or find new homes for them. the partnerships with organizations generally with organizations that are working with low income individuals or families or people who are transportation dependent. we ask them to identify individuals who would greatly benefit from a bicycle. we make a list of people and their heights to match them to a bicycle that would suit their lifestyle and age and height. >> bicycle i received has impacted my life so greatly. it is not only a form of recreation. it is also a means of getting connected with the community

through bike rides and it is also just a feeling of freedom. i really appreciate it. i am very thankful. >> we teach a class. they have to attend a one hour class. things like how to change lanes, how to make a left turn, right turn, how to ride around cars. after that class, then we would give everyone a test chance -- chance to test ride. >> we are giving them as a way to get around the city. >> just the joy of like seeing people test drive the bicycles in the small area, there is no real word. i guess enjoyable is a word i could use. that doesn't describe the kind of warm feelings you feel in

your heart giving someone that sense of freedom and maybe they haven't ridden a bike in years. these folks are older than the normal crowd of people we give bicycles away to. take my picture on my bike. that was a great experience. there were smiles all around. the recipients, myself, supervisor, everyone was happy to be a part of this joyous occasion. at the end we normally do a group ride to see people ride off with these huge smiles on their faces is a great experience. >> if someone is interested in volunteering, we have a special section on the website sf bike.org/volunteer you can sign up for both events. we have given away 855 bicycles,

376 last year. we are growing each and every year. i hope to top that 376 this year. we frequently do events in bayview. the spaces are for people to come and work on their own bikes or learn skills and give them access to something that they may not have had access to. >> for me this is a fun way to get outside and be active. most of the time the kids will be in the house. this is a fun way to do something. >> you get fresh air and you don't just stay in the house all day. it is a good way to exercise. >> the bicycle coalition has a bicycle program for every community in san francisco. it is connecting the young, older community. it is a wonderful outlet for the community to come together to

have some good clean fun. it has opened to many doors to the young people that will usually might not have a bicycle. i have seen them and they are thankful and i am thankful for thankful and i am thankful for

>> supervisor mar: good morning. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the thursday may 12, 2022 of the public safety and neighborhood services. i'm supervisor gordon mar i'm joined by catherine stefani and connie chan. i want to thank sfgov tv and matthew for staffing. do you have any announcement? >> clerk: the board of supervisors and convening hybrid

meetings. we'll provide remote access via telephone. the board recognizes public access is essential. first public comment will be taken on each item on this agenda. those attending in person will be allowed to speak first and thing take those waitings on the telephone line. for those watching, and sfgovtv.org, the public comment call in number is streaming across the screen. the number is (415)655-0001 once connected, enter meeting i.d. 2490 219 9126 then pound and pound again. you will hear the meeting discussions which you will be muted. when your item comes up and public comment is called, those joining us in person should line up to speak and those on the telephone should dial star 3 to be added to the speaker line. if you are on the telephone, remember to turn down your tv and all the listening devices you will be using. you may public comment in writing in of the following

ways. you can e-mail them to myself, at alisa.semera@sfgovtv.com. items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisors agenda of may 24, 2022. >> supervisor mar: thank you. please call item 1. >> clerk: a hearing to consider the that the premise to premise person-to-person transfer of type 48 on sale general public premises liquor license to blue ice entertainment llc doing business at roccapulco located at 3140 mission street will serve the public and city and

county of san francisco. for members wishing to provide public comment should line up to speak. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. please wait until we take public comment on this item and when the system has indicated you are unmuted. >> supervisor mar: we're going to hear sfpd liaison unit. >> good morning, blue ice entertainment, this will allow team this operate. there are two letters of protest. there located in a low crime area. ingleside station has no opposition.

we recommend approval with the following conditions. number one, the petitioner shall monitor the area under their control and effort to prevent loitering and adjacent on the premises. the sale of alcohol beverages for off sale consumption is prohibited. no noise shall be audible at any nearby residents. number four any time the premise is providing live entertainment, the petitioner shall have two uniform security guards on premise and shall maintain order and to prevent any activity which would interfere with the quiet enjoyment of their nearby residents and surrounding community and uniform security guard must be licensed. >> supervisor mar: thank you. do we have a representative from roccapulco here to speak? >> clerk: i do not see the applicant is not here.

>> supervisor mar: can i ask a question. have you communicated to the applicant about the conditions and where they agreeable to them? >> yes. i spoke with the license rep with abc. they agreed with a.b.c. on those conditions. >> supervisor mar: thank you. we go to public comment. >> clerk: for members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item line up to speak if you're joining us here in person. if you joining us remote please call (415)655-0001 meeting i.d. 2490 219 9126 then pound and pound again. please press star 3 to enter the speaker line. we have no speakers here in person. we will go to the public comment

line. we have jennett monitoring public comment today. we have one speaker in line. please put that caller through, please. >> caller: i'm sorry. i meant to comment on something else. >> clerk: all right. that was only call inner line. there are no public comment. >> supervisor mar: public comment is closed. colleagues, i understand that supervisor ronen is supportive of this license transfer. given that i will make a motion directing the clerk to prepare a resolution determining this license will serve the public convenience in necessity and we send this resolution forward to the pull board with positive recommendation. please call the roll. >> clerk: on that motion for item number 1. [roll call vote]

there are three ayes. >> supervisor mar: it will be sent to the full board with positive recommendation. please call item 2. >> clerk: a hearing to consider that the person-to-person in premise to premise transfer type 21 off sale general beer and wine distilled spirits liquor license to bear eagle incorporated doing business at sfgiftbaskets.com will serve the public through a necessity of the city and county of san francisco. members of the public who wish to provide public comment, should line up to speak now. if you joining us remote please join the public comment comment and press star 3. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. >> supervisor mar: thank you. please present the a.l.u. report

on this item. >> bear eagle inc. this will allow them to operate off sale general premise as zero letter of protest. zero letters of support. they are located in plat 152 which was considered high crime area. central station has no opposition. alcohol liaison recommends approval. >> supervisor mar: is there a representative from bear eagle to speak? >> clerk: we have cheryl maloney on teams. >> supervisor mar: thank you for being here. if you can speak to your application for the liquor license transfer and your

proposed new business at the embarcadero. >> yes, this is san francisco gift baskets. most of our business is order, mail order and delivery. we don't do -- we do small amount of walking business. it is for the gift basket business. to have full liquor and spirit, we want to promote more corporate type baskets and gifts to be sold to the public. it's mostly mail order. >> supervisor mar: thank you. you're saying that the beer and wine and the liquor will be part of the gift baskets? >> correct. >> supervisor mar: thank you. thanks for your business serving the community. >> it's an existing business. we're just adding. we have beer and wine. we're just adding the full liquor. >> supervisor mar: got it. thank you.

>> you're welcome. >> supervisor mar: let's go to public comment. >> clerk: mes of the public who wish to provide public comment please line up to speak now. if you joining us remotely please call (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2490 219 9126. press pound and pound again. press star 3 to enter the speaker line. we do not have individuals here in person. i am double checking the public comment line. there are no speakers in line either. >> supervisor mar: public comment is closed. i understand that supervisor peskin is supportive this license transfer. i will make a motion directing the clerk to prepare a resolution that this license will serve the public convenience in necessity and we send the resolution forward with positive recommendation. please call roll. >> clerk: on item 2.

[roll call vote]. there are three ayes. >> supervisor mar: we'll send it to the full board. thank you, again. thank you for your work on the liquor licenses. i know we're expecting a fairly lengthy hearing for item number 3. i wanted to call 4 and 5 out out oforder. >> clerk: item 4 is an ordinance amending the health code to require general acute care hospitals and hospital-based skilled nursing facilities to a health facility outside the city to receive skilled nursing care and patients who qualify for skilled nursing care.

members of the public who wish to provide comment may line up to speak now. if you joining us remotely call into the call in number and enter the meeting i.d. 2490 219 9126. press star 3 and the system will indicate that you have raised your hand. >> supervisor mar: colleagues, this item was one that we had -- this is reallial duplicated file. we moved the original file forward and the board adopted recently so we can start implementing these important reporting requirements out of county transfers for skilled nursing and acute care. i had duplicated the file to expand the scope that was suggested by community health advocates. we're not ready to consider those amendments.

i would move that we continue this item to the call of the chair. >> clerk: since this is a duplicated file, there has to be at least a minor amendment made so this ordinance can continue. >> supervisor mar: okay. deputy city attorney pearson, do you have a suggestion? >> i don't. as the clerk explained, this will become sort of moot as soon as the original goes into effect. if your office wants to suggest some language, i'd be happy to look at it and see if we can approve it in the form of the amendment today. >> supervisor mar: why don't we hold off on that and my office will follow-up with you during the meeting and we'll come back to you at the end. let's take public comment on this item.

>> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide public comment can line up to speak now. if you are joining us remote call into the call-in number, (415)655-0001. meeting i.d. 2490 219 9126. press star 3 to get in the speaker line. pausing to see if we have remote callers. there are no callers on the line. >> supervisor mar: public comment is closed. we will come back to this item later. please call item 5. >> clerk: an ordinance amending the administrator code to require the police department to create a community policing plan at each district police stations that among other strategies. incorporate a foot and bike patrol deployment and also include a community process for eliciting input. members of the public who wish

to provide public comment may line up to speak now. if you joining us remotely call in the public comment number and press star 3 to enter the speaker line. please wait until we take public comment and the system indicates that you have been unmuted. >> supervisor mar: colleagues, i did want to make some remarks. we'll have public comment on this later. or soon. this ordinance really is responding to the public safety concerns in our neighborhoods and our communities throughout the city. during the pandemic we seen major crime trends an increase in property crime, especially burglaries in our residential neighborhoods. i certainly -- we've seen this

in the sunset district where neighborhoods and businesses and residents victimized by burglary, robbery and theft. this ordinance is to prevent crime prevention as well as addressing public safety concern. it builds off the sfpd's existing work advancing community policing strategies in our city including the sfpd community policing strategic plan. the departmental general order 1.08 and the community liaison unit. this ordinance is intended to bring community policing strategies down to the district on the neighborhood level. it would require sfpd to create a community policing plan at each district station that among other strategies incorporate

foot and bike patrol appointments to address needs of the neighborhood and really emphasizes proactive problem solving and crime prevention. i want to thank our install business and merchant association, particularly people parkside and sunset and professional association as well as the council district merchants association for working with us on this. also thank you to the small business commission for their consideration of this ordinance and their unanimous support but also for providing valuable feedback on the legislation. some of the amendments i will be introducing were suggested by the small business commission at their hearing. i want to thank sfpd and chief scott and deputy chief lazar for working with us on this legislation. that would really strengthen sfpd's commitment and implementation of the community policing strategic plan.

i did have some amendments that i'm introducing. they were shared with you by my staff earlier this morning. i'll just go over them briefly. again, these are amendments that were created with input from the small business commission and sfpd. on page 2 line 14, this amendment provides deployment flexibility to sfpd if there are issues with their budget and staffing. on page 2 line 17, this amendment responds to the complaint supervisors often hear about constant change of district captains. community policing plan can help smooth the transition and provide continuity during district captain changes. on page 3 line 11, this amendment mentions that the community policing plan should include identifying alternatives

to law enforcement for non-criminal and quality of life issues. on page 3 line 21, this amendment addresses that the to allow the public to hold district stations accountable for following through with the community policing plan. i would like to make a motion that we incorporate he's amendments into the legislation. >> supervisor stefani: i want to clarify -- first of all, thank you for working on these amendments subject to the hearing we had on police staffing and in committee a few weeks back underscoring the police staffing shortages that the police are having. i want to make sure, on page 2

lines 14-16, that is the applicable to the entirety of the legislation. is that correct? >> supervisor mar: yeah, in our conversations with sfpd, they were the ones that suggested this amendment. they really focused on the deployment of foot and bike patrols. they wanted to make sure it was noted that it was subject to budgetary and fiscal provisions. >> supervisor stefani: thank you. i'll move the amendment. >> supervisor mar: thank you. why don't we take public comment on this. >> clerk: members of the public who wish to provide comment and you're joining us in person, line up to speak now. if you joining us remotely, call (415)655-0001, meeting i.d.

2490 219 9126 press pound and pound again. once connected press star 3 to enter the speaker line. continue to wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted. we have a person here in person. please provide your comment. >> how much time do i have to talk? >> supervisor mar: two minutes. >> i have a question and brief comment. one is what do you mean by non-criminal? i don't know that the police will be there for non-criminal activities. why wasn't the community notified of this meeting? there was another question which i forget now. community participation, what would that consist of. what i wanted to say, you got to

take other steps besides paying this city and the country like police state. [ indiscernible ] people are hungry. people are going to steal money or diapers for their kids and food for their kids. i don't approve of it, i don't to punish them. what i would like to suggest is something similar -- [ indiscernible ] can you tell me what you mean by non-criminal activity and what the community will look like and how they will be made up? >> clerk: does that conclude your comment?

>> yes. >> clerk: this is not a question and answer time. this is our time to hear from you. thank you so much for your comments. we so no other people in person. we are going to the remote call in system. we have three individuals in line. >> caller: hello. i support this totally. i think having police on the street in a friendly manner who gets to know the residents and understand the neighborhood, who can target areas where bad behavior generally takes place and make a presence there is a really positive thing. it gets police out of their police car. which i find intimidating and walking on the street. i do have an issue with san

francisco's trying to create all different bureaucracies. such as not having the police deal with quality of life issues. this will create a whole different bureaucracy. i notice it's a trend. i was at a meeting last night. d.p.w. is involved with fencing and involved in permitting and vendors. i don't think it's smart to a bureaucracy when we already have an existing organization that already tasked to do those. i would like to see more police presence on the street in a friendly way. i think that would also help people. it will help the police

understand the people. and people to understand the police. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you so much for your comments. next caller please. >> clerk: i believe that person hung up. let get to the next person. caller? >> caller: hi. i'm larry yee. i'm a community member in chinatown and also police commissioner here. i'm supportive of this public safety policy that put forth by you gordon mar. we need more officers out on the beat. that's been the message that i hear in the community.

foot patrol is a visibility that needs to be out there. lets people know that they do commit crime out there. there's officers out there. they were saying, we need more funding. we're looking forward to that partnership and reaching out to all stations. hopefully we can add liaison person for each station to this policy. looking forward to working with everybody here and making it work for all our communities, especially our seniors too where we are the most vulnerable. foot patrol, bicycle patrol will be great. getting police more involved in our community and making them

having plans that reflect the needs of our community. looking forward to this. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next caller please. >> caller: this is tyler. i'm in tenderloin. formally district 6. now district 5. i think the idea of having less police in cars and more walking around on bikes, it makes lot of sense. my concern is that this is just going to be another excuse to pour more money and more resources into police. i would hope there's a way to do something that goes in the opposite direction. may be that means some kind of ambassador program instead of more police or maybe it means that in more police will be in policing community, we can take away some of the resources from

all of the surveillance tech and military tech that the police have. i think couple of years ago, there were all those protests and discussion about alternatives to policing. now we're taking resources away from the police. it feels like that whole movement kind of been forgotten little bit. maybe this is an opportunity to do something along those lines. we have the usual police work, we have community policing. [ indiscernible ] >> clerk: thank you for your comment. do we have any more callers in the queue? that concludes public comment remotely. >> supervisor mar: public comment is now closed. i want to thank everyone who

called in and spoke during public comment. i want to respond to the comments around alternatives to law enforcement for non-criminal and quality of life issues. the amended legislation would require that the community policing plan should really include identifying these alternatives to law enforcement for these types of low level incidents. this is in support of efforts that we've taken as a city to create alternatives to law enforcement. in particular for behavioral health and homelessness. we want to ensure that the community policing plan really reflect that important new approach that we're taking as a city. also i did want to point out that the community policing is -- particularly the community policing strategic plan that sfpd created is in response to

the concerns around racial bias and over policing in black and brown communities and the community policing is a key part of the department of justice collaborative reform initiative recommendations that we're still following through on implementing. i think this not only does community policing plans address better address the public safety concerns of our neighborhoods, it can help address concerns around addressing racism, systemic racism and policing in san francisco. i thank you for your support on this. thank supervisor stefani for moving the amendment. i would move that we -- in addition to the motion to

incorporate the amendments i presented from supervisor stefani, i move that we continue this to the next meeting. that will be may 26th. >> clerk: would you like to take both of those motions together? on the motion to amend item 5 and continue it to the may 26th meeting. [roll call vote] there are three ayes. >> supervisor mar: thank you. please call item 3. >> clerk: an ordinance amending the administrative code to require h.s.h. to submit a plan to implement a program to provide unsheltered persons in san francisco with the safe place to sleep overnight also known as the place for all

program including cost estimate of implementation requiring hastefully -- hastefully implement the program >> supervisor mar: i would like note and thank supervisor malgar and also supervisor mandelman for joining us for this hearing. supervisor mandelman, thank you for your leadership on these issue and bringing this item forward. the floor is yours.

>> supervisor mandelman: thank you colleagues for making some time to talk about place for all this morning. this has been quite a long road. i introduced the first version of this legislation with co-sponsor supervisor fewer back in the fall of 2020. this legislation came out of our pandemic experience where there had been an explosion encampments on sidewalks and in public spaces following the necessity to shut down and thin out the congregate shelter that we have. it prompted lawsuits. we saw the city step up in a major way, moving thousands of people off of the streets and out of those encampments into

new shelters. now we've seen an experiment with tiny homes. we saw there were different ways to do shelter. we saw we can get folks off the street. at that time, supervisor fewer and i felt that there was a lesson here. with political will and funding, we might be able to end unsheltered homelessness in san francisco. at least have a safe place that was better for folks than the sidewalk or the plaza or the park. we brought this front of the budget committee back in april of last year. had some conversations, much heated debate between folks who thought this was a good idea and

folks who thought it was a bad idea and the legislation was tabled. i want to -- it was continued to the call of the chair. i want to give lot of credit to the folks with rescue officer, -- rescues.f. that continue to s the challenges of unsheltered homelessness. their efforts, their pressure if you will, their constant lobbying in this building moved some folks, i think. we also made changes to the legislation that addressed some of the concerns that have been raised about version 1. in addition, i think there's a growing consensus or understanding that san francisco, the bay area, california are approaching unsheltered homelessness the way that is different from other places do that prioritize getting folks off of the streets

and into at least a temporary placement. i want to thank -- express my deep appreciation to our former colleague, matt haney who signed on as a co-sponsor and worked with us on approving the legislation as well as our co-sponsors mar, malgar, and safai for their partnership for making this a strong piece of legislation for joining me for the city to provide shelt for. i hear every day from constituents who lost or losing faith in local governments after billions of dollars to solve homelessness that is failed to improve conditions on the streets. i believe that it needs to be one of our highest priorities for san francisco to stop

relying on residential neighborhoods as campsites of last resort for unhoused people. including individuals suffering from significant mental health conditions and substance use disorders. i have supported and continue to support standing up as much permit supportive housing as possible, we cannot let our streets serve as waiting room for housing. the people are getting sicker every day. research shows the people experiencing unsheltered homelessness suffering three times mortality rate. a place for all will be an important step toward getting people indoors faster. it will establish that it is our policy to try to do that. the fact that provoked debate is

interesting. it is priority for the city to offer shelter. secondly, the legislation would require the first comprehensive analysis of what it would take to end unsheltered homelessness in san francisco. h.s.h. will be required to work with the appropriate departments to determine the cost of providing that shelter, annual cost and to identify sites. 50% of the shelters will be non-congregate. the program would include a biannual controller evaluation and report to measure its effectiveness. we do know that san francisco and the rest the bay area is

severally unsheltered. unsheltered population is less sheltered than before. many other cities chosen to directly address unsheltered homelessness much more aggressively than we have. from 2017 to 2020, the share of unhoused people in the bay without access to basic shettering increased to 73%. the highest rate in the nation. all homes in their 2021 regional impact report proposed a framework. that for every dollar invested in shelter, that dollar should be matched by $2 invested in permanent housing and $4 invested in homelessness prevention. as of this january, our best estimate is san francisco will need at least 2000 additional shelter beds. as a result, we have ever growing population of unhoused people who lack the most basic shelter, living unsafe

conditions, are getting sicker and will by the time they qualify for housing if they ever qualify for housing, requiring supportive services for their lives. while making shelter for all is a reality it's easier said than done. this legislation is a first step in the process that san francisco refuse to engage in to the great detriment of our neighborhoods and unhoused alike. make no mistake, we will not end street camps in san francisco. this legislation moves us incrementally but i think importantly towards that goal. i have prepared a set of amendments that i hope will address many of the concerns that have been raised about this legislation. those amendments should have been shared with you. they address the need to ensure people are placed in shelter are provided access to housing as soon as possible by expanding the scope of h.s.h.

implementation plan to expedite folks from moving from shelter into housing. the amendment addressed the need to improve access to shelter where resources are not concentrated and does not regularly conduct outreach by requiring h.s.h. to prepare a geographic equity strategic. thank you supervisor melgar for your conversation about that issue. these amendments add safe parking sites. this is an issue was raised by supervisor melgar and safai as part of the menu of shelterer populations that should be included in the implementation plan. changes the deadline after the effective date to december 31st which gives h.s.h. some more time. would require the director of real estate to maintain list of potential sites on a rolling

basis. as i said, supervisor safai requested an amendment to reduce the cap on the percentage of shelter options that can be safe sleep sites from the 20% that supervisor haney asked for and then 10%. i included that in the amendments that i'm proposing. san francisco has consistently affirmed our support for housing first approach to addressing homelessness for decade. while that approach has helped end homelessness for tens of thousands of people, it has not resulted improvement in street conditions. there's a direct connection between our shelter resources and street conditions. despite the many different ways in which san francisco affirms the policy goal providing

housing for everyone, we have not committed to providing emergency shelter for those who do not have a realistic path to any housing resource in the next month, 6 months, year or years. we have to confront the reality that san francisco cannot build the amount of supportive housing necessary to improve street conditions. one city can't alone cannot solve what is a fundamentally regional state and national crises. we need to continue doing the right thing, which is to invest in permanent exits from homelessness. we also need to dramatically expand our shelter capacity and use that capacity to better manage street conditions or we can allow the status quo using our sidewalks as waiting room for permanent supportive housing to continue. i do think that our public, which has given us -- has been asked for and has given significant investments in permanent supportive housing

does expect us to address street conditions. we can do both. i look forward to the conversation this morning. i talked with some of you. i've incorporated, i think, many of your concerns as i said into the amendments that i'm offering. my bottom line, i know there may be further amendments today. i guess my bottom line view is that i would like for this legislation to meaningfully push it city to address a serious lack of shelter and to move closer to being a shelter for all city. i think we can do that. i want this legislation to move us in that direction. i also want in the process, to make sure that we do not add things that complicates the effort or make it more difficult to move folks out of unsafe encampments on the street and into safer shelter situations of

all of the varieties of shelter from congregate to non-congregate to tiny homes and to hotels. what we cannot do to continue to allow very unsafe encampments to persist in san francisco. looking forward to conversations. thank you. >> supervisor mar: thank you supervisor mandelman for bringing this forward. i did want to add that, i am proud to co-sponsor this. i agree that we as a city need to have a comprehensive plan to create shelter and transitional housing for everyone that is currently living on the street in unsheltered. this that is to be supplemental and complementary to our

priority focus on addressing homelessness which is creating permanent housing and supportive services that are needed to address this problem in the long-term. i don't think it's a neither or. it's important that our shelter expansion plan be fully coordinated with our plan to address homelessness in the long-term through permanent housing. >> supervisor melgar: thank you so much. thank you supervisor mandelman for your time, work, effort, energy, engagement with the community and drafting this and putting it together, seeing it through the process over a long time. i share your desire to have

meaningful access to shelter for everyone who needs it in san francisco. i think it's an important goal not just because folks are in the public right-of-way. because it's important for the health safety and life of the folks who happen to be without a home at a period in their life where they are more vulnerable. to be able to be successful over the long run. thank you for addressing in the amendments that you will be introducing today. my concern that the west side gets very few of these services from the city. i am worried that in creating a policy that provides access to shelter that it's through the departments and since those departments never come out to my neighborhood or supervisor mar's

neighborhood or supervisor chan's neighborhood, that this will not provide meaningful access to shelter as you have stated. thank you for adding that paragraph. i look forward that when the plan gets submitted to us, there will be some geographic equity in the plans submitted by the department. what this doesn't address, i wanted to bring up and make sure we are watching out for as we embark on this change in policy if this goes farther, there is a power imbalance between folks who are experiencing houselessness and the department. i want to make sure that whatever we are putting together, provides that meaningful access to shelter for folks who are experiencing

houselessness and not just folks who are being cleared from encampments. that is really important. couple of weeks we had a hearing to explore at the land use committee, to explore the issue of pregnant black women in, who have twice the rate of suffering death when they are giving birth. who's kids have three times the infant mortality rate than white kids who are twice as likely to be homeless than white women in san francisco. many of them are fleeing domestic violence. i want to make sure that folks in that category can have access to shelter that day when they need it when they are fleeing from a dangerous situation. not have to be in an encampment before they can access shelter. i want to make sure that whatever policy we're creating,

whatever system we're creating, provides meaningful access not just in terms of geography but also the different ways in different situations that people have when they need shelter. the fact is that our housing population is not monolithic. yes, the folks who are on the sidewalk in the public right-of-way in tents are visible. sometimes because they're in crises and they're experiencing mental health crises or other issues, we see them in a way that we deferential see the 3000 homeless children in our san sanfrancisco unified school district. we don't see them. those folks also need to be moved from the street to a shelter to permanent housing.

many of them don't need permanent supportive housing. they need affordable housing. in my district there are lot of folks who are living in cars and rvs just like in supervisor safai's district and president walton's district. i'm grateful that we included safe parking sites in this new policy as it should. i want to headache -- i want to make sure we define those things. i do think it's a spectrum. i want to make sure that we address everything along the way. many of the folks living in rvs and cars are just poor. many them are latino. many of them are single mothers with kids. not a lot of mental health and

substance abuse issues in that population. they do need services. they need financial capability training. they need workforce assistance. they need lot of things. not necessarily those that are provided in permanent housing but are provided in affordable housing. i want to make sure that as we're creating these new policies, we are not creating a system that doesn't address the things that we learned during the pandemic. we had ms. emily cohen who told us when we voted on the tenderloin emergency designation that one of the things that they had learned is that low barrier, less challenging entry. access to shelter and housing work. it works better. i think supervisor mandelman you said in your remarks as well. i want to headache sure that our approach to shelter also takes

that lesson that i know that folks who have a place to go that is safe where they feel trust. it's easy to get into are likely to get off our streets. they are safe and i want to put as low barrier as possible so folks get in the shet -- shelter and we're not setting up a system. we are providing -- i want to make sure we're articulating that. i'm supportive of this effort. i'm supportive of the policy that used as our budget in our resources as a city to make sure that people are successful. i do that providing space

shelter that is service rich in that meets the needs of the folks as they're telling us that they have those needs can be a way for folks to get into permanent housing and be successful over the long run. we have to get it right. i have talked to you about it. i think that at the very least, the amendments that i proposed for page 9, which is are the definitions, we can move. we have seen the cracks in the system and where people have fallen through the cracks. thank you.

>> supervisor mar: supervisor chan? >> supervisor chan: thank you. is h.s.h. is department of homelessness and supportive housing here to answer questions that i have about this legislation? >> good morning, supervisors, emily cohen deputy director of department of homelessness. >> supervisor chan: i understand from the most recent data, if you can confirm, we have about 8000 -- anywhere between 8000 up to like 19,000 homeless individuals in the city at this time. >> our 2019 point in time counts over 8000 people experiencing homelessness on any given night in our community. which is a consistent way of counting people experiencing homelessness on a single night. we do estimate that over the course of the year that number will be much larger.

>> supervisor chan: i think earlier this year, during our conversation and briefing with your team is that there is a commitment to place about 6000 individuals that are currently homeless to permanent housing by june. can you confirm that? [ please stand by ]

>> i'm a firm believer. >> all homelessness frankly two things are critical. one is to prevent them to become homeless in the first

place,that's the most important piece and the second most important piece is to provide them a home and i think that's very direct . could you sort of educate me about the proposed legislation expanding shelter and how does that interact between expanding shelterswhich is in my layperson understanding , they're not permanent housing. they are temporary. nonetheless that doesn't mean they're not good . they're good like if someone is on the street and in need of having a roof over your head or whatever we couldprovide that . it's really the responsibility of our government over local level and state level but could you help me better understand that if this legislation moves forward what does that mean for your existing effort and ongoing effortplacing individuals into permanent

housing ? >> thank you for the questions supervisor. the legislation before you directs the department to create a plan and two data model how much shelter we need to meet the unmet need of people experiencingunchartered homelessness on the streets . we can only understand how much shelter we need if we know much how muchhousing we have and they are all relative to each other . the more housing we have the less shelter we should need and vice versa so in order to determine how much shelter we need to answer the requirements of this ordinance we will need to do a system data modelthat takes into account prevention and housing so this is a , for the department this is integral tounderstanding how these interventions interact with one another because people becoming homeless , homelessness is the

x factor we don't always know so this i completely agree with you. prevention is our first line of defense and supercritical here. this legislation will direct us to do a modeling thattakes all that into consideration in order to determine how much of each intervention we ultimately need and what the associated costs would be . >> thank you and while we're trying to make that determination and try to have a better understanding of a plan which if you think about it it's kind of interesting that we after all those years we still don't have a plan but i'm kind of curious to understand though. obviously we know homelessness is not a san francisco issue. it's a statewide issue and in fact i believe it's a national issue that our state

legislature are also working hard and trying to find their own ways to problem solve, not just obviouslyfor san francisco but the entire state . have we had some type of analysis of understanding of what the governor has proposed in terms of care and state senator aikman's bills that's a series of them really addressing any attempt to address mental health services. have we done some type of analysis or understanding of initially these proposals and how they would impact the way that san francisco would handle mental health issues but also in relation to those who are homeless individuals and suffering mentalhealth issues ? >> thank you supervisor. i'mnot sure if that question is for me .

i don't know if any of my colleagues are on who might be better equipped to answer this question. we are working closely with the state when it comes to home key resources both bringing in to our city to expand shelter and housing and i defer to the behavioral health specialists on mental healthquestions . >> thank you but it sounds to me whatever effort that you're working on and doing right now at this moment, placing folks into permanenthousing , doing outreach and try to do everything youcould , it sounds to me though we have yet to have a clear grasp how these state legislations would impact us at this time. >> that is correct. i think it will be enacted by the amount of funding that comes with these proposals.

the care, i referred to dph on their expertise related to the care. i think there are promising options here. >> thank you. >> but they don't bring the resources. the court does notnecessarily come with the housing resources, that comes with the home key project so that is where we are deeply focused . >> i'm glad about the questions on resources and funding and i don't know maybe this question is for ms. cohen or the author of this legislation that this legislation my assumption is in looking through it it does not come with any type of funding mechanism for the extension of the shelter. . supervisor madelman. or maybe supervisor safai wants to answer the question.

my question is that looking through the legislation whoever can answerthis question . maybe the city attorney or maybe supervisor mandelman that this legislation itselfdoes not provide a funding mechanism for extension of the shelter . >> through the chair, this is a plan. we don't know what number we would be headed if we were trying to shelter everyone. we don'tknow if that's 20 million or $200 million cost . i'm willing to look at revenue solutions as we get a better sense of what the actual cost of shelter for all might look like and that's a conversation to behad down the road. we have a $13 billion budget that we depend on for many things . i think addressing encampments and providing a saferefuge for folks coming off the streets should be among our highest

priorities . so i would be interested in looking at ways we can find money in our existing budget but right now we don't know what target we're aiming at which is part of what this legislation is about . >> thank you supervisor. i think this is my comment and thank you forindulging me . my comment is this. when i look at this legislation i believe it is simply an approach to the problem but not the solution. it doesn't have a funding mechanism. in fact i think supervisor mandelman has talked about in his own belief it's a regional approach for providing permanent housing to house individuals and i think that's the same idea would applyfor shelters . perhaps and not only that, to understand that the shelters are really just temporary solutions where the investment

should go towards permanent housing beyond san francisco which i agree and i think everyone up anddown the state should be thinking about building housing , affordable housing so that people can be prevented from becoming homeless and in the event they do become homeless that they are going there are going to be places for them to be homed so i urge colleagues to consider a continuance but i'm still seriously considering amendments that super melgar has discussed. i'm in support of all the amendments that we could discuss and propose today and i'm happy to support them. but that does not mean that i don't have reservations in supporting the legislation itself.again i believe it's simply our approach to somehow take a stand against people

being on sidewalk and tents but not really providing a solid solution or even a funding mechanism to give them home. so that is where i stand on this legislation. i think that i just wanted to make that clear. i look forward to continuing this conversation. i will be here since i'm only something but it if this continues i will continue to monitor and watch where this is heading at the committee but i also will look forward to seeing it and having a further discussion on the floor in the board chamber should it come to the full board . >> thank you supervisor. and just to note we are joined by supervisor safai. supervisor melgar you referred

to some amendments you have been working on and youtouched on one or two . i think it would be helpful for the public if you could go over your full list of amendments and then i know supervisor safai you had someproposed amendments . we kind of just summarize what those are for the public. >> thank you chair. there's really three main things in my amendment and instead of having to gothrough every line item . the main thing is that i would propose that we include shelter and permanent supportive housing in this legislation together. what i just heard ms.cohen say is exactly that . that she cannot give us a number or an exact amount without looking at the totality that they are all interrelated. the number of permanent supportive housing units that we have i would even go furthe

. the number of affordable housing units and permanent supportive housing units we have is intricately related to the number ofshelter beds we need because it is a spectrum. people move through the system . that is one of the things i would say it's a route that they document. i would add access to shelter andpermanentsupportive housing . number two , that i would like to see, i'm grateful for the geographic. there should be a geographic equity in the plan. i like i would like to exclusively say there should be a way for folks to get on the shelter list through the telephone . that could be accessible in some way for people who lived farther out who don't have an access point near where they arestaying on the sidewalk or

the beach . so that folks can have access to our system and it used to be i am no longer proposing the 311 if it could be some other way and i am in documentation with miss: it seems like that was possibleas well . the third thing i wanted to add in my amendment is just definitions. because we talk about things in the legislation but we haven't defined them. on page 9 i'm proposing we define homeless prevention and this is somethingsupervisor chan talked about . homelessness prevention means policies, practices and interventions that reduce the likelihood someone will experience homelessness including but not limited to rental assistance andeviction prevention programs which i think are important . permanent supportive housing, as steve referenced was already in our code in chapter 20 of

the administrative code and then also define safe overnight. we refer to it and thank you supervisor for putting it in but i would define it has a meeting set forth in section 119.1 of chapter 119 of the administrative code as may be amendedfrom time to time . thank you again supervisor that we would continue to evolve. >> thank you supervisor. >> thank you members of the public. first i want to thank supervisor mandelman for all his hard work. i know this has beenan ongoing conversation over the past couple of years . a piece for all is a needed piece of legislation in my opinion. it's something that's been missing from the conversation with regard to our melgar

unhoused in san francisco. i'm supporting this because i believe we need to incorporate shelter in a different way into the conversation and those that are willing to accept it and i think this takes us in the direction to at least have the opportunity to find out what the right number it's for the city and county of sanfrancisco and allow the city to provide shelter beds to meet everyone's needs . we know there's a need but we haven't had the political will i believe in the city to address this inan aggressive manner . i have amendments today, some of them supervisor mandelman talked about, supervisor melgar reference and their similar to what supervisormelgar talked about and that's nice because like minds think alike . i think it's important first and foremost that when we're thinking about the right number we also incorporate into the fact that there are a

reasonable number of people that will still accept permanent supportive housing or affordable housing so we make that amendment and put it into the first conversation about the estimate for an sheltered individuals. we had in the line that says excluding individuals that accept an offer for permanent supportive housing and i think that's an important piece in the conversation to say because there's a reasonable number of people that will continue to accept affordable housingand permanent supportive housing. the second thing we do is we incorporate in the conversation of a safe overnight parking . something we were able to get off the ground in our district that's not expanded to hunter! and i know there's other supervisors in the conversation looking at locations and their district and again we know that there's been a 45 percent increase inthose living in vehicles. i think it's an important piece

of the conversation that should still be included in this overall estimate . and then finally we believe that we should reduce the number of safe sleeping as an option . if i had my druthers i probably would take it altogether but i do recognize that there needs to be a transition piece so we asked for there to be a reduction of the on safe sleeping from 20 percent to 10 percent and acknowledge in this legislation acknowledge that both seat sleeping and overnight parking and navigation centers should be looked at as a more short-term option .in the conversation. so those are the main amendments today. i think it's important forus to recognize this is the first step. it's the first big step to get an accurate count of what they need might be . and i think it was acknowledged

in the findings of this ordinance , but we look at otherplaces around the country . often times we can be very inward looking in san francisco but if we look at other places around the country they dostill have housing first policy . they still aggressively move people into permanent supportive housing but they have been taking the time to have the requisitenumber of transitional shelter and that doesn't mean that is the final solution . i agree that people need dignity and respect. they deserve to have permanent supportive housing or affordable housing options but we have to acknowledge that the alternative of not having enough options for those that are living on the streets is not humane and we have to have in my opinion this as a transitional option. i look forward to this legislation passing and i look forward to continuing conversation with my colleagues and again i want to thank supervisor mandelman and allin

the community that have been involved in this important conversation . >> thank you just to note all of youreceived my amendments but i had you a paper copy as well . >> we've heard three sets of amendments described and presented to supervisor mandelman along with supervisor melgar and safai. thank you for yourthoughtful work on how to refine this legislation . make sure it's effective and strategic as possible. we have a number of folks from thepublic that wanted to share their perspective on it .i believe online so before we go to public comment i wanted to see if you had any comments. >> supervisor. >> i wanted to add i do support supervisor transcends amendment to set a on the safe sleeping

sites and i share the sentiments that if it was up to me i would say zero but i understand that during a time of crisis we need to have something buti support that idea . >> thank you. what do we go to public comment madam clerk. >> members of the public who wish to speak and if you're joining us in person now is the time to line up to speak against the window.you're right, my left. for those joining us call 415-655-0001, enter the meeting id 2490 219 996. sáthree and for those in the queue please continue to wait until the system indicatesyou have been unmuted and that will be your cue to begin your comments . we do have a number of individuals in person but first

person can come forward. >> 'smy name is carlos watkins, anorganizer with the coalition ofhomelessness and a resident of district 1 . supervisor chancedistrict . notwithstanding their amendments , i'm in support of those but i'll close legislation not passed. but now it's common knowledge or should be every plan that doesn't talk about housing in regards to end homelessness will not work. the city comptroller's office stated shelter resources work most efficiently and that's as super supervisor melgar the deputies said herself they can make any plans about the number of shelter beds without taking into account the spending we need. it doesn't make sense to do one over the other. regardless the city currently has no plans for how much housing we will need to meet

the needs of the city and no mandate that we acquire that muchhousing. this plan would not be supplementing our complement think ahousing plan because there is no housing plan. it would just be making a shelter plan . this proposal doesn't mention anything about housing . it's been extremely telling that in comments about this legislation weather in meetings or the media or talking points supervisor mandelman has referenced martin do boise saying the shelter plans will be used as a workaround to displaced people and the shelter resources we currently have are not accessible to the public as supervisor melgar stated in her amendments. there is no way for folks to directly access shelter. all that shows this is not really a plan to end homelessness. it's not a plan to help people's needs. it's a plan to work around martin do boise and close people in the shelterresources that may or may not be adequate or appropriate .

supervisor mandelman talked about people in andcabinets and substance abuseneeds . >> thank you for your comments . we will be providing everybody the sametwo minutes . >> thank yousupervisor . mandelman's legislation needsto be amended to make sure data-driven analysis that doesn't randomly promise shelter beds as it ensures shelter is developed in the context of when . so in flow and outflow so that those are available. to that people have a way to request and get a shelter bed and three that shelter is not funded by robbing housing. i want to note that on that first point melgar's amendment gets at that, mandelman's does

not and i mean bring back the shelter reservation system right now. 9000 shelter users are being asked to leave a message on a machine in order to get shelter. obviously that doesn't work . they work more than a decade to have a fair and easy shelter access system. it took hundreds of committee members thousands of hours, massive amounts of research and it was designed based on unhoused people's feedback. homelesspeople have theability to have self-determination, not be denied or given the runaround. the ability to just request a bed to lay their hands . and know where they stood, know how long the weight , no when it wouldbe appropriate and have a little bit of control over their destiny . to deny this amendment supervisor stefani is callous. domestic violence victims come to all our organizations trying to get shelter and theydon't have a way to get it . that's not okay. don't say you fight for shelter when you basically are denying

a way forpeople who want shelter to get that shelter . . if this legislation is not amended it will only lead to an explosion on the numbers of people on the streets . >> you for your comments. we will have the next caller please. >>. >> speaker: [inaudible] quote unquote policies for why the loophole in martin versus local governments to criminalize and displace and share with their residents. regardless of whether there's a shelter available or it's appropriate or accessible. criminalization is done in homelessness. housing beds. i would like to sayanother

thing . i'm no the mayor wants business because this country is becoming fascist. the government is aiding the needs of the corporations versus people's needs. this country, the whole legacy, theamerican people , give me liberty or give me death. patrick henry. you cannot tell a homeless person to just get up and leave their comfort station. martin versus boise. why is that being stepped on when other legislation like theirs is being approved? i totally am against suites. that is not fair. that is not what we pay our taxes for . alsoi've been in a shelter .

i've been in a shelter bed for mentally ill and they look like concentration camp's. this is turninginto fascism . we want to recognize whofought against fascism and who advocated for it . >> thank you foryour comments. next speaker come forward good morning. my name is jordan davis . i actually have lived experience with homelessness and live in permanent supportive housing and i oppose longcabin republican rafael mandelman a place for nobody legislation unless it's amended for everyone . this piece of legislation will make concrete shelters permanent for a lot of people with no housing access and that's not fair and just for the record i support melgar's

amendment. had a time when our supported housing is under fire for issues and the endemic traumatic issues of shelters frankly and i'm going to tell an inconvenient truth here. i don't blame people for wanting to be on the streets rock rather than being in traumatized shelters and fuck the sfro. i was at mission and if there was no exit housing even though that exit was horrible i would have gone fucking knots. housing helped and if i was still in a fucking hundred get shelter i wouldn't have been able to have my cousin helps last january because he could recover from surgery and shelter first is fucking transform it. we need to invest in quality supportive housing is this to be a win-win situation and i wouldn't be cursing you off if city hall wasn't so fucked up

and these pieces oflegislation were taking time out of my that day so i yelled my time fuck you . >> thank you for your comments, let's have the next speaker please. >> speaker: i'm an intern with the coalition of homelessness. i've lived and worked in district 8 at the castro for 30 years and sat on the board. i was an accolade of philip weiland who was my teacher until his death. i also volunteered and attended the deaths of 144 souls. at age 36 i entered the dea and at 44 and an a from usc. i've struggled to find employment due to economic difficulties and myself experiencing homelessness where i lived on the streets for several years. during this pandemic the mayor left us basically on her own to die. presumably. people on the streets run tight networks. people care for one another because being homeless means

continually being victimized by dpw, by criminals, by residents who commit arson, assault with pepper spray and assault with your attic acid. none of which matters. euphemisms include what they are. my friends on the streets of castro are not service resistant and they're not engaged in homelessness, there simply trying to survive. they recognize mendacityas sure as they recognize danger , a necessary survival tactic. we can't allow members of the community to dictate policy and resources in a program that warehouses human beings are in historical and cultural memory is short . my aunt and uncle were first relocated to assembly centers and later to relocation centers . i conclude with a quote. if you're thinking of buying a house in new york san francisco or chicago there's a powerful attraction to a neighborhood

like harlem, themission and in short i don't think about pride, think about private/earnings ratios just as you would with a stock . >> thank you for your comments. can we have the next speaker please? >> my name is lori brooke and i'm a cofounder of rescue sf and also president of the town hollow association. we are a citywide coalition of residents advocating for compassionate and effective solutions to homelessness in san francisco and we do urge passage of this legislation. two and are devastating homelessness crisis we need to stop managing homelessness as a part of urban life and we need to start treating it like a humanitarian emergency that it is. if a natural disaster had left thousands homelesswith no place to live the city will immediately put everyone in our residency shelterand offer them to find permanent housing .

we need the same approach to ending homelessness . a place for all would establish a policy to provide shelter for people living on our streets and require the city to develop an implementation plan to expand the number of shelter including centers and traditionalshelters. the board of supervisors have an opportunity to review the plans and funding sources before approving the final plan. this is a sensible approach . that's all i wrote here but i wanted to add from what i've been hearing that we fundamentally believe we're all on the same page and that we're splitting hairshere. i mean, i love the work the coalition over the years has done. without you therewould be so much more death on the streets . i don't think we're at such a divide he can't find a way to provide permanent housing , traditional shelters and folks to get off thestreets so i want to find a way we can work together and not a part . >> thank you for your comments. can we have the next speaker?

>> i live in district 9. i volunteer with the coalition o homelessness and i'm going to echo some things . supervisor mandelman has made it clear he wants to expand shelter beds to remove people from public spaces. shelter for all policies provide a loophole in martin versus boise for local governments to criminalize and displace on sheltered residents regardless of whether the shelter available is appropriate or accessible to those being swept. criminalization and displacement don't and homelessness. housing and homelessness. people should not ever be forced into a shelter with the idea that you either go into the shelter or into jail. that's it. we support shelter but we don't supportshelter only .

supervisor melgar said it perfectly. low barrier shelters in which people feel safe, trust the staff and other residents is the only way to go. many people do not want shelte because theirexperience was so horrific . quality of shelter absolutely matters . they can only be developed with the residents who live there. residentsneed agency . shelters should also be accessible to the folks who needed . therefore we need to go back to the pre- covid system of folks calling 311to get a waiting list . iq. >> thank you foryour comments. can we have the next speaker please ? >> my name is marknagel, cofounder of rescue sf . i originally came to support a

place for all. people who are melgar need housing and we support efforts to make housing more affordable andprevent people from falling into homelessness . thanks to our city our home san francisco now has unprecedented resources to spend on permanent housing but we are under investing in shelter. more than 2000 two thirds of unhoused people in san francisco are also on houston and it will take moretime for the funding to come online. during the pandemic the city was able to move thousands off the streets quickly so they had somewhere to go . during the current initiative the city has moved more than 700 people off the street into shelters . the lessons are obvious. we could end our street crisis when we have sufficient shelter . while we build more housing we shouldn't leave people to sleep on the street. it iscruel for people and devastating for our streets and

neighborhoods street sleeping doesn't make someone safe, sane or sober . people should wait forhousing andshelter, not on our streets . we support a place for all because it offers a path to ending homelessness . we call on the department of homelessness to develop a plan for creating more shelter and allow the board ofsupervisors to review the plan , consider the costs and identify appropriate fundingsources. that is a reasonable approach . i urge the committee to forward legislation for a full vote . >> thank you for your comments. can we have the next speaker please? >>. >> speaker: my name is caitlin o'neill, a resident of district 8 and here on behalf of pilot shelters in support of the ordinance and iwant to thank supervisor mandelman and his staff for their work on this important issue . >> thank you for your comments . >> my name is susan morris and let's be frank.

tiny homes are metal shedsthat are by definition substandard housing . they cannot be heated efficiently.they have uses in other ways that are shall we say entirely not low barrier and they are expensiveto set up . as such, unless an identified funding source is provided, not just promised but provided, they will end by diverting housing, funding from housing and in fact there are already political pressuresto achieve that . and as such they will undermine the only research backed solution of homelessness which is housing which is also a solution that over 60 percent of the people of san francisco voted for when they approved

proposition c. now i would ask that you not undermine the solution of homelessness and that you not for the will of the voters by approving this as written. i very much appreciate supervisor melgar amendments . i dosupport it . please do not pass this as written. >> thank you for your comments. let's get the next speaker. >> my name is kelly color, human rights organizer at the coalition of homelessness and i'm calling on the committee to impose a place for all. would any of you stay in shelter ? would you feel safe living somewherewhere there's a bunch of beds three feet away ? wouldyou feel safe living in, get shelter during thepandemic ? if you say yes then proveit .

i've been to hundreds of sweeps in the city over the years . it's extremely traumatic and it's not traumainformed . in fact it's causing trauma. when i met sweeps where other city agencies are present asked people the question. what could the city offer you where you would feel safe? i explained to folks that currently there is no public access to shelters because the city shut down public access and they shut down 311. so they have to go through the hot to get access. it's a simple question and the answers are usually quite simple. the response is often a room with abathroom . a home.they often go to explain why a shelter isn't an appropriate oradequate option for them . their reasons are valid. i've experienced homelessness and i have ptsd from that. i can't get shelter wouldn't b

inappropriate or adequate option for me . and my situation is not unique. we need to continue to invest in housing and this legislation isn't housing for all. it's shelterfor all . we just need to be honest about it, what's going on in the situation. we need to listen to actual research and what we know work . and shelters don't.>> thank you for your comments. may we have the next speaker? >> my name is christopher micah. a former homeless person and resident of what is nowdistrict 5 . i don't support this legislation as written. shelter is not housing. and housing is what we need to endhomelessness . my understanding of this

legislation is it's basically a way forthe city to do legal sweeps instead of the illegal sweeps that they say they don't do right now . we will further institutionalize homes by diverting funds for housingsome of these and by building out the homeless isindustrial complex . we are never going to get what we need . people will not be given to get housed if we have an army of people who lose theircontracts if people do get housed . shelter is not housing. shelter without a dated guarantee of permanent adequate housing is merely institutionalized permanent homelessness. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. canwe get the next speaker ? >>. >> speaker: my name is tyler

kaiser, i'm a d4 resident and policy director at the coalition on homelessness. i'm calling on this committee tooppose a place for all as it is currently written . supervisor mandelman has made it clear he wants to expand shelter beds in order to forcibly remove our unhoused residents from public spaces. shelter without housing equals perpetually full shelter beds. it's not just about more shelter beds. it's about having shelter bed turnover at and that he parked his over there. when shelter residents can move into housing it opens up the bed for the next person who needs it when they need it. we support shelter. we don't support shelter only. we needhousing and to quote all voting with the executive director of the western regional advocacy projects

nothing homelessness like a home . >> thank you for your comments. seeing no other individuals here in person to speak let's go to our public comment line. jeanette is checking to see if we have callers inthe queue. we have27 individuals who are currently waiting to provide public comment . if you would please put the first caller through . hello caller. perhaps that lineis unattended . hello. >> yes, hello. my name is connor, an executive director of the san francisco marin medical society. the medical society is a nonprofit association representing about 3500 physicians in san francisco and mandelman county a large

majority of which are in san francisco. i'm speaking on behalf of the medical societiesleadership and would like to express a medical societies report for this ordinance . it's important to note our members are on the front lines of care for our mostunderserved and underrepresented populations so we tend to bring a unique perspective to issues of housing and homelessness . the shortage of safe sanitary shelter options in san francisco as a tangible effect on the housing outcomes for our communities of specific concern to us as a medical society is that a lack of shelter capacity and a lack of the opportunities for linkage to social services that can arise from having shelter capacity can contribute to unhoused individuals arriving in our already overwhelmedemergency rooms which are ill-suited to provide other . this places further strain on

our physician workforce and our hospitals have been stretched to the limit by the covid-19. the strength affects everyone in our communities from reducing overall capacity hospitals to increasing physician burnout which is at an all-time high . it also increases cost of care we respect the issue is complex and the proposal requires dialogue but we have the goal of offering individuals and alternatives and webelieve the proposal would advance that cause . thank you forthis opportunity . >> can we have the next caller please?>> good morning supervisors, and president of the coalition for san francisco neighborhoods, not just for some neighborhoods but all neighborhoods. we first heard from supervisor mandelman two years ago when one of our friends from rescue sf brought thisplan to our attention . we'd like to thank mark and carolynfor doing that .

from the get-go we were in favor of his plan and as he explained that then when we voted back then. you have our resolution in favor of now it's called version 1. later when it was tweaked and refined we heard from our friends and from the supervisor. they voted unanimously to approve version 2. you have that on file also and here we are again and still we are in full endorsement of this plan, this legislation.it is time, past time to shelter the unhoused and to pass a place for all. out of this committee with a positive recommendation for consideration by the full board in the very near future. campus fugitives, supervisors andhomeless are still waiting . >> thank you.

>> thank you for your comment. next caller please. >> my name is david harrison calling on behalf of the building owners and managers association . andalso resident of what's now district 7 in the inner sunset . as the supervisor mentioned i hope this legislation can push our state to being a jurisdiction that's able to provide shelter for all those who want to accept it while also meeting ourhousing goals. thank you for considering and we look forward to continuing the conversation . >> thank you for your comments. next speaker please. >> good morning, my name is william tate, resident district 8. i support a place for all and you should too. anyone who lives and works where people are camping in tents on the sidewalk comes to realize that it is an unfortunate situation for

everyone , not the least of which are the people living in the tents. most turning to drugs to ease the pain. many dying of overdoses. allclearly struggling. permanent housing is great. we need all we can get but there will probably never be enough of it for everyone who needs it . so the issue is what can be done quickly to make living before permanent housing is available saferand more humane for people struggling on the streets ? it is so clear to me that the answer is transitional shelter where people can live in a managed safe location with with support services, sanitation, food and away off the streets that's available to them when they needit, not months or years from now . it's not perfect but it's a lot better than nothing. it's a lot better than the way it is now so please vote for a place for all. thank you.

>> thank you for calling in today. may we have the next caller please?hello? >> please proceed. >> speaker: good afternoon chair mar. i was in district 9 on 26th street and worked at my home as an artist. i'm also the captain of the mission neighborhood association. i support place for all. housing is the solution for homelessness but we do not have enough housing or shelterfor those sleeping on our sidewalks . the housing first policy of san francisco has proven an absolute failure and isupport more shelter to transition people off the streets and into permanent housing . has been out of control and cannons in my neighborhood not

only since covid but since 2016 with people dying in thestreets , suffering from mental and physical health, drug sales and open drug use in front of our children for six years in front of my house and my neighbors. san franciscans are looking for our elected officialsto implement effective short-term solutions to get people off the streets . it's not okay to use public bodyguards as shelters. it's just not. not only are the homeless affecting policy people who live as immigrants and people in other communities are harmed such as inmission where i live. they were in front of my house for close to four months . >> thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller.

>> good morning supervisors. thisis marty ragan . thank you supervisor for focusing time and resources on finding solutions to end homelessness in san francisco. while we certainly supportmore shelter we don't support shelter only. a variety of housing options is neededincluding shelter , transitional livingprograms , rapid rehousing and long-term supportive housing across the city . a robust service for continuous housing with fully funded contracts a nonprofit workers livable wages and fund ongoing maintenance is the only way homelessness will become rare and one-time. >> thank you for your comments. next caller please. please proceed. >> thank you. this is kerry barnes and

resident in noe valley. i'm originally from boston. >> we can hear you. >> speaker: thank you so much. i'm originally from boston where i our right to shelter insurancepeople do not sleep on the streets . that model can be viewed as paternalistic andhave unintended consequences . however what is humane about that in the current legislation is a corporate lease that no oneshould sleep on the streets . i support the proposed legislation because it is a compassionate and pragmatic approach to address the thousands of unshelved people living in san francisco. the department of health ejected in february the number of people citywide experiencing homelessness has grown to 18,000. that is unacceptable and it's of the utmost urgency we not

wait for the perfect day and yes i agree providing shelter should be a next was a priority of our city . i support ada as it will provide a safe ace to sleep fo all . and it will develop an implementation planto expand the rangeof shelter options . iq . >> . your comments. we have 40 individuals listening and 26 left in the queue. we can put the next caller through. >> please proceed. >> hello supervisor. hello? >> please proceed. >> hello. >> we can hear you,please proceed . >> speaker: on a public housing editor and permanent housing provider in san francisco and i

want to urge this committee to oppose housing for all as is currently written. housing first is a working model to support formerly on house people and become self-sufficient. hello? >> we can hear you.hello caller? i'm pausing your time. the caller is having an issue. let's circle back to that color. >> supervisors, way back in 1992 we did not have any homeless that we see today. and at that time we had a mayo

, you all may not know his name. frank johnson and we had an opportunity using the mckinley act to get some housing at the presidio. and if you look at public housing, most of it is from the military. and you have had you done at a needs assessment today with over 50,000 units. now, you all do not have a blueprint for affordable housing. you all are just kicking the candown the street . as a legislative body you have been slow, doing nothing at al . who is doing something for the rich people is the mayor. you have a failed legislative

body, all of you. don't come up with some band aid type of operation. no one should live in shelters, be forced to livein shelters . thank you very much. >> thank you mister dacosta to you foryour comments . >> good afternoon, my name is gwendolyn westbrook. i am executive director of the united council of human services and oppose the legislation as written today but i want to thank you for hearing this out. i have been in the homeless servicebusiness for almost 25 years . and there is a process for people to actually be able to live in housing. if you take the time and

interview people who have been directly involved in homeless services you will understand why we are so opposed. the 311 system worked perfectly but here comes somebody over saying no, we need to get rid of that.people have fair and equitable time to get into a shelter which when they came up they were able to go to it. people who didn't want togo to that kind of shelter, that's what we need to focus on . what we can do to ensure that everybody has a hold and it doesn't have to be a shelter because people do not feel safe in shelters. i am a native san franciscan, born, raised, educated right here in the city and i'm also a resident of bayview hunters point. you guys need to stop and think

about what you're proposing that people who live in a system working, no input from us whatsoever and hunters point as usual, it's all about these other districts. you need to think about what you're doing, go back to the drawing board with the commitment from people who actually work in this field, the nonprofits that work and havebeen providing services for years . it's unconscionable that you guys would present this to us. let's make this right. >> the speakers time has expired. we are holding everybody to 2 minutes. next caller please. hello, caller? that line appears to be unattended.

let's go ahead and circle back. >> speaker: my name is jordan wayne, resident of district 8 and a board member at the association speaking in my personal capacity. i'm calling to ask you to support safe space for all70 percent of us had homelessness as our top concern and to make sure you're all aware of this has been true for several years . too many people are seeing eye-popping sums of homelessness while also seeing more and not fewer people on the streets and to be clear i believe we should be spending this money to shelter the people that needed and need support of all kinds but what i think 70 percent of people are seeing is that we need a first step on the path of

homelessness. we need a place for people to go when they find themselves in a tough situation . [please stand by]

>> so to put folks in shelters where there's no out, either they're going to be at some point timed out and kicked back out into the streets or they're going to be languishing in conditions that they should never be in long-term, conditions with a cot on the floor, shared bathroom, etc. -- >> clerk: speaker's time's expired. next speaker, please. >> hello.