>> good evening and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, monday, may 23rd, 2022, and i'm the chair of the committee, aaron permanent structures kin. and joined by supervisor raphael

mandelman and connie chan to our right. and mr. victor young is our clerk. do you have aniance house inments? >> clerk: we have hybrid meetings to allow in-person attendance and public comment while providing public comment via telephone. the board recognizes that access is essential and we'll be taking public comment as follows. on each item on this agenda, and those attending in person are allowed to speak first and then we will take those who are waiting on the telephone line. for those watches on channel 26, or 89 and sfgov-tv, the call in number is streaming kreeses the screen. the number is 1-(415)-655-0001. and then enter the meeting i.d. of 2496 905 4544. and then press pound and pound again. when connected you will hear the meeting discussion but you will be muted and in listening mode

only. when your item of interest comes up and public comment is called those joining in person should line up to speak and those on the telephone should dial star, 3, to be added to the speaker line if on the tech, remember to turn down your television, and all listening devices that you may be using. as already indicated we will take public comment from those attending in person first and then to our telephone line. alternatively you may submit in writing email to myself, the rules committee clerk at victoryoung@sfgov.org. and by email it's forwarded to the supervisors and then included in the file. you may also send written comment by usvl to our office, 1 doctor carleton b. good let place, san francisco, california, 94102. and items acted upon today's agenda are on the agenda of june 7th, unless otherwise stated.

that completes my initial comments. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. young. you can please call items 1 through three together. >> clerk: yes, item number 1 is a hearing to consider appointing two members, terms ending july 20, 2024, to the public works commission. we have one seat, one applicant, or two seats and one applicant. and item two, a motion approving or rejecting of lynne newhouse sega for ending with the term of july 2, 2026. and item 3, the city controller appointment for a public works commission for lauren post, with the term ending july 2, 2024. these three items if approved are sent as committee reports. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. young. colleagues, we previously dealt

with some of the proposition b appointments to the streets and sanitation commission. and these three items are appointments to the public works commission pursuant to proposition b, and notwithstanding, and that you will recall that charter amendment from a couple of years ago required two mayoral appointees to board of supervisors appointees and one controller appointee. today we have before us one of each. and i am informed that ms. newhouse segal, and i wish her well, is aring a medical procedure today so she will not be before us and she will be fine and before us at the next meeting on june 6th, so after public comment i make a motion to continue item number 2 to our meeting of june 6th as we have no meeting next monday because

of memorial day. so we'll be hearing item number 1, which is one individual for seat number 5, fady zoubi. and the controller's nominee lauren post, to that position. and before we do that, why don't we -- as we did with streets and sanitation commission, get a briefing from the city administrators offices, prop b property manager rachel alonzo, good morning, ms. alonzo. >> good morning, chair peskin and thank you for having me here again. i was here earlier in the month and we reviewed the admin services ordinance and thank you for approving that. it will be heard at the full board meeting tomorrow for its second reading. and we have a second ordinance that we're working on called the code cleanup ordinance and it's 190 pages long now, and we are

on track to submit that for your consideration next month, by the july 1st deadline. and i am very excited to have four more appointees here today three for public works and then i believe item 4 will be for the sanitation and streets commission. and the working groups that we have convened have been coordinating and discussing what topics to review with the commissioners in their first meeting in july and then subsequent meetings in august and september. as long as we have three appointees or commissioners seated for each commission by july, then both of the commissions will be able to form and begin meeting on schedule. so that's great that our plan can continue moving forward. and i'm most excited about what we're -- we've been discussing for site visits and ride-alongs in august, because the work of the public works department and the sanitation and streets department is so tangible and so physical, that we really want to

get the commissioners out in the field with our crews so that they can go out and see what it's like to clean up the tenderloin at 6:00 a.m. and fill potholes at 8:00 a.m., and visit tree and landscaped crews. and then on the public works side it will be site visits to maybe the floating fire station, fire station 35, that was recently finished. and southeast kelp project, and that's wrapping up construction. and we want everyone to get out this and to see what the work of the two departments is. so we're putting that together and i'm very excited that we'll have real people now that we can begin coordinating the schedules with. so that's it from me today. but i'm happy to answer any questions that you may have or we can get on to hearing from our appointees. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you, ms. alonzo, and thank you for your work. i know that it has not been

easy, and that there are 91 points of connection between these two yet-to-be departments as we split up public works. so, a lot of work left in the future, if we continue going down this road. with that, if there are no questions or comments from committee members, why don't we go to mr. zoubi, the one and only applicant for seat number 5. mr. zoubi, we are in receipt of your application and i will turn it over to you to make any statement that you so desire. >> good morning, supervisor peskin. supervisor mandelman and supervisor chan. i want to thank you for taking the time to -- to take my application. and -- and i i have been in san

francisco for the past 22 years, and i have been very involved with the city departments, business associations, and my family owns a business also in san francisco. and i'm looking forward to add value to the works of this and to learn more about this, and what is done with the department. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. zoubi. are there any questions or comments from members of the committee? i will note that you clearly have a lot of background in being on the boards of various non-profits. and as well as your experience in the banking and lending industry as set forth on your application. and so why don't we move on -- we will skip over item number 2 and we will continue that to mse

controller of san francisco who i, like with mr. zoubi, had the opportunity to meet with last friday. and her resume is before us and it is an impressive one, ranging from experience in the u.s. congress, to various civic activities in san francisco, and a robust background in finance. with that ms. post, you are here in person. please come on up and introduce yourself to the committee. >> thank you very much. good morning, supervisors, and how do you do. my name is lauren post, i'm a 36-year resident of the city. and i have been both a renter and an owner. and i have been in the miss, and fallcalow, and the east cut, south of market between 2nd street and embarcadero.

the bulk of my career was in municipal finances and an investment banker, and through government clients and analyzing the credit quality of municipal securities. and also a number of years of experience in biotech consulting and non-profits. i am comfortable comfortable with financial statements. for the past 10 years i have been active in my east cut neighborhood where i was the first board chair of the benefit district. i currently serve as treasurer and sales of park committee, with t.j.p.a. to oversee the budget and management of sales force top atop the transit commission. and we have worked on a number of projects from clean streets to new park design. and we've had some very positive experiences and, of course, some negative experiences. i also most currently serve on the general obligation bond oversight committee as a liaison to the easter bond program. so i look forward to continuing

some of the site visits that i've had as that liaison, putting on hard hats again. and i have enjoyed getting to know the capital project staff but also overseeing project deliverables, budget and schedule to ensure that we voters get what we pay for and that we get it in a timely manner. i hope that i'm appointed to the new commission, because i see this as an opportunity to work with the new dpwo director to improve the department's culture and its systems and processes for carrying out its man the day. it's also an opportunity for this new commission to set a standard for how it's run itself, given that it's brand new and we're starting with a clean slate and to partner with our sister streets and sanitation committee to integrate into the city fabric. i've had a number of conversations with former and current employees, and there are many areas where change is needed and improvement. anecdotally this was supported

by a report last month that the controller issued on the general obligation program, which summarized a number of areas needing attention. i won't go into all of them, but from regulations to the permitting black hole as it's been described by frustrated staff, to the d.p.w.'s own permitting difficulties and compounded by a lack of coordination between the departments and project approvals, and actually something that is an important joint project for the new commissions to address is the lack of planning and project maintenance and responsibility, active capital projects are completed. there's deferred maintenance that costs the city and taxpayers more money than needed and inefficiencies in maintaining our capital assets. so since project maintenance will be handed over to the new streets and sanitation department in about two and a quarter years after we split, i think that we have a nice opportunity to work together and to make sure that handoff is smooth in terms of capital projects once completed.

and, again, just overall integration with other city departments needs to be looked at, and better communication and coordination throughout, and i look forward in my role as a commissioner to the extent that i can working with city d.p.w. staff to up the game of the department. i think that there's a lot of potential to make improvements here and i would like to support d.p.w. professional at all levels to strive for excellence and to have the resources to achieve it. so i thank you for your consideration and i look forward to this very valuable and rare opportunity. >> chair peskin: thank you, ms. post, for your willingness to serve and for controller rosenfield for finding you. seeing no questions or comments, open up items 1-3 to public comment. >> clerk: yes. members of the public who wish to provide public comment on these items may line up to speak. on the side of the room by the window. if you are joining us remotely call the public comment number

at 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 2496 905 4544. and then press pound and pound again. once connected to meeting you will need to press star 3 to enter the speaker line. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand and please wait until we take public comment on this item. when you receive the message that you have been un-muted that is your cue to begin your comment. do we have anybody in the room for public comment? please come forward. >> chair peskin: good morning, commissioner. and thank you for coming on friday. >> oh, yes, thank you for having me, supervisors. it's great to be back in the hall. marianne here and i'm giving public comment today in support of fady zoubi for his apquaigz application for the new d.p.w. commission. i believe that it's incredibly

important to have representation from arab immigrant and on this commission, given how many businesses we have in the city and how frequently we interact with d.p.w. there's fee schedules that are predominantly paid for by our business community under d.p.w. code. so i think in is going to be a really important interface for our community and to be able to give the city more ground level information about how their programs and how d.p.w. programs and fee schedules are administered. with that said, i give my full support for this application for this vacancy. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you, commissioner. and any members of the public who want to comment on items 1 through three and if not any remote? >> clerk: we are double checking. and at this point it looks like we have four listeners but no

one in line to speak. >> chair peskin: okay, public comment is closed. and, colleagues, i want to thank the two individuals and to recog >> commissioner chan: thank you for all three applicants for coming forward to provide your service and mr. zoubi does come with many great recommendations, including really talking about his services for both the north beach and chinatown communities so for that i'm definitely in support of his appointments today. and for ms. newhouse, lynne new newhouse-segal and i know her work, and knowing her work and her involvements, and making

sure how we preserve the characters and the history of the area of the civic center historic district. but at the same time, being able to move a project forward and that is some impressive experience. and, of course, ms. lauren post, thank you so much for willing to continue and to provide your service to the city. it's an impressive resume. with that i am in support of all three appointments. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you. seeing no additional speakers here at the board, i would like to do a little housekeeping, which is to make a motion on item number 3 to remove the word "rejects" and "rejecting" from that so it reads "approving" and "approves" on. ."on that motion to approve ms. post, a roll call please.

>> clerk: yes, on that motion [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> chair peskin: then to make a multifaceted motion to continue item number 2 to our meeting of june 6th, and send items 1 and 3 with recommendation as committee reports to the full board of supervisors for hearing tomorrow. >> clerk: yes, to confirm item 1 would be a recommendation for seat number 5. and item number 3 will be a recommendation as amended on. that motion, [roll call] the motion passes without objection >> chair peskin: next item, please. and you guys will be before the

board tomorrow or at least you gal will be before the board tomorrow, and on june 6th we will at least get a quorum so you can talk to ms. alonzo. with that item number 4. >> clerk: yes, i guess -- >> chair peskin: did you just say it? sorry. you read four? >> clerk: not yet. confirming that item 1 and 3 are sent out as committee report. item number 4, motion approving/rejecting city controller ben rosenfield's nomination for the appointment of christopher simi to the sanitation and streets commission, for a term ending july 1,2026 and there's a request for this to come as a report. >> chair peskin: this is i nominee of the controller, subject to confirmation by the board, who has background in finance and audits. and mr. rosenfield has indeed found that individual who i had

the chance to interview last week, mr. simi, who currently is in charge of barts budget and has plenty of municipal experience here in the city and county of san francisco as well as in new york and philadelphia and with that, mr. simi, good morning, and thank you for joining us in person. the floor is yours. >> good morning, supervisors. christopher simi here. and i want to say, of course, i'm honored by this opportunity to help to serve the city. and as supervisor peskin said, i can give a quick overview of my background. so i currently serve as the budget director at bart, where i'm responsible for formulating and developing and adoption and oversight of a $1 billion operating budget. and previous to that i was the cfo at did the of human services, the child welfare and juvenile justice organization.

and in that capacity i was responsible for budget, audit, contracting, accounts payable and accounts receivable. so i really have some experience there, sort of understanding all of the various mechanics on the fiscal side of a government organization. and then previous to that, as the supervisor mentioned i was just down the hall here in the mayor's budget office for three years. and was sort of responsible for providing different departments being a liaison on the fiscal side, including the department of public works. so i have an understanding of how it operates and some of the issues that it faces. so with sort of all of that background and experience i'm, of course, very excited. you know, i have a policy training is sort what i got my master's degree in and i think that budget, the fiscal side, i think that the budget is the sort most clear discussion of priorities that an organization can have, because it's either funded or not funded.

but there's a lot beyond that. and i think when you think about policy, i think that it's actually very important to me just to be really thoughtful about how, you know -- i think what any government agency is thought about and how those tradeoffs are articulated and the data that goes in and making sure that it's good data. and thinking about implementation and monitoring over time. i think that those are key things that i really like to focus on, and i enjoy focusing on that stuff. so i think that i can hopefully bring some of that skill set that i have and 12 years working in the public sector to this role and i'm just very excited. and i'm a resident of the city, and i'm a homeowner and i live in district 8, and i just, you know, i really love this city. and i wanted to thank you for the opportunity to allow me to give back a little bit to the city. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. simi. and when the controller calls, it is always good to respond in

the affirmative, so thank you for stepping up. any questions or comments from committee members? seeing none, are there any individuals in these chambers who would like to testify on item number 4? seeing none, are there any remote callers who would like to testify on this item? >> clerk: yes, members of the public who are on the line, there are a number of people in the room to speak. if you are viewing remotely, the public comment line is 1-(415)-655-0001. the meeting i.d. is 2496 905 4544. and then press pound and pound again. once connected, you will need to press star 3 to enter the speaking line. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and that is your cue to begin your public comment. and there are -- we have four

listeners but nobody in line to speak at this time. >> chair peskin: all right, public comment on item number 4 is closed. and seeing no comments from committee members, i want to thank mr. simi for his willingness to serve and thank our controller, ben rosenfield, for this nomination and to make a motion to remove the word "rejecting" and "rejects" from the subject motion on that motion, a roll call, please. >> clerk: yes, on that motion, [roll call vote] the motion is adopted without objection. >> chair peskin: and then i would like to make a motion to send the item as amended to the full board with a positive recommendation as a committee report for hearing tomorrow, may the 24th.

>> clerk: yes, on the motion to recommend as amended as a committee report, [roll call vote] the motion is adopted without objection. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. clerk. and, mr. clerk, i don't know if you have been able to send a teams invite to brian chu from the mayor's office of community development, but if you haven't, if you could do that right now before we call the next item. >> clerk: yes, give me one moment. >> chair peskin: and to ms. post and mr. simi, there is no public comment on this, and that is handled in committee and you are welcome to come or to participate remotely and best to make yourself available if any of our colleagues who are not on this panel have a question. and we can forward you an incite inviteif you would like to do tt

remotely. >> clerk: i have just updated the invite to invite brian chu. >> chair peskin: excellent. with that can you call item number 5. >> clerk: yes, item number 5 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending december 1, 2023, to the soma community stabilization fund community advisory committee. >> chair peskin: okay. i'm giving brian chu 10 seconds to log on to teams. is he logged on? real-time hustling.

if not, mr. clerk, i can totally do this all by my little lonesome. the soma community stabilization fund advisory committee i am very familiar with because i was on the board of supervisors when we created it way back when. this is an appointment for seat number 4, which individuals have to have the qualifications of being low income, an employee, and labor senior disabled, housing business or youth. and the applicant has those qualifications, and the committee had previously expressed a need for a representative from the lgbt cultural district and the applicant definitely would fulfill that need. and we have one applicant for

the seat norman lind, who is joining us remotely. norman, if you would like to make some comments, the floor is yours and we're in receipt of your application. >> clerk: mr. chu is on the line. >> chair peskin: okay, bri an, okay, brian, ifyou would like tg in addition to that. >> thank you. and the housing community development and joined by the staff of soma stabilization fund c.a.c. just to echo what the supervisor said, the committee is strongly committed to ensuring representation by all of the diverse communities within the geography. as people know, we have three cultural districts and actually that touch in that area. filipinas and the soma lgbtq district.

two of those districts have had representation on that committee. and the committee really wanted to do outreach to ensure that the third cultural district would also have strong representation. so after outreach, the district recommended that mr. lynde consider submitting his application which he did and we're very excited about having his voice and his community's voice represented on the committee. so we are in strong support of this application. >> chair peskin: thank you brian. why don't we go to norman. >> good morning, chair peskin, vice-chair mandelman and supervisor chan, and thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. i am norm lynde and i support your support of my application. and i'm a big fan of history. soma is less than a square mile of our city, but it's filled with a rich heritage and i

believe a more promising future last year during covid, i was able to take the city guide walking tour of the park area. and i saw the reflections pool that commemorates the contributions and the heritage of the first people of our area, as well as the inspiring words of dr. martin luther king. my first pilgrimage to san francisco as a gay man brought me to soma. it was in soma at the street fair that my husband proposed, and today it is pretty much the center of our lives here. the deeply rooted communities of both the filipina district and the lgbtq district work alongside residents and businesses to strengthen, build, and renew as we face many challenges. i would be humbled to contribute my skills, time, and services to the soma c.a.c., in support of

the city's ongoing work to stabilize the community, promote equity, and mitigate the effects of gentrification and displacement. to join each of you who contributes to see san francisco as a city where freedom is celebrated, and dreams realized by all who work together. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you for that presentation. seeing no questions or comments from committee members, are there any members of the public who would like to testify on item number 5? are there any -- seeing nobody in the chambers for this item, are there any members of the public who would like to testify on this item remotely? >> clerk: just to note i believe that we have -- claudine has raised her hand to speak and i don't know if she still wants to speak? >> no, i was just here on behalf of mr. zoubi in case brian was not able to attend so i had my

hand raised earlier. thank you. and we are excited that norm lynde has put forth an application. >> clerk: thank you. members of the public who wish to provide public comment and are in the room should line up to speak at this time if you are joining us remotely the call in number is 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 2496 905 4544. then press pound and pound again. once connected, you will need to press star 3 to enter the speaker line. a system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. wait until you have been un-muted and that is your cue to begin your comment. we have two callers in line for public comment. >> chair peskin: first speaker, please. >> caller: good morning, i'm the manager of the lgbtq cultural district. and i am just calling to say

that we're in very, very strong support of norm's application. and he has been a strong ally, not just the cultural district, but in soma in general, and i think that would be an invaluable asset to the committee. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. >> chair peskin: next speaker. >> caller: hello, i am vaughn golchef with the lgbtq cultural district. and 24-year resident of the city. and i am just calling to express our strong support for norm lynde's application for a seat on the c.a.c. he's highly involved in the leather and lgbtq cultural district. and with his background we feel that he would be an excellent representative and an addition to the c.a.c. and i urge you to support his nomination. thank you. >> chair peskin: thank you. any additional speakers on item number 5?

>> clerk: i believe -- we are double checking at this point. any additional public commenters? >> mr. chair, that completes the queue. >> chair peskin: thank you, arthur. public comment is closed. and seeing no comments from committee members, i am pleased to make a motion to forward norman lynde to the full board with a positive recommendation on. that motion a roll call, please >> clerk: yes. [roll call vote] the motion passes without objection. >> chair peskin: all right. next item -- next and last item, please. >> clerk: yes, item number 6 is an ordinance amending the administrative code to extend the expir a date of the shelter monitoring committee from july

1,2022, to july 1,2027. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. young. and this is a very simple admin code change to extend the sheltering monitoring committee by a five-year period to july 1st of 2027, which gave me the opportunity to meet with the great staff at d.p.h. last week with regard to how the shelter monitoring committee has been going, particularly through covid. and i just want to thank the staff at d.p.h., clair lindsay and robert hill, and jeff sinby for their work, particularly when volunteers were not able to go into the shelters and they did that themselves at their own peril. so, thank you for your stewardship of the program and the oversight. and i'm happy to extend it. i did in that conversation come at least personally to the conclusion that we've had trouble filling one particular seat because of seat qualifications are too narrow. we were not able in short order to develop that language to havd

prefer somebody with those specific qualifications, and it's been vacant for quite some time. so i will either do one of two things. one, would be to -- if the city attorney would allow me to without having to re-refer it to committee, introduce what may be a non-substantive amendment to make the seat qualification for seat number 1 more broad, add that at the full board in two weeks. if that is not deemed to be substantive. or, i will have a trailing piece of legislation that takes care of that detail. so whichever ms. pearson, deputy city attorney pearson allows me to do. i had not forgotten but it was not ready for today. with that, jeff, the floor is yours. >> okay, thank you. yay, that's such good news. good morning, chair peskin, and vice chair mandelman and supervisor chan. my name is jeff sinby, with the

department of public health. i'm a health services manager for behavioral health services, one of the behavioral health services sites. but part of my role is to support the awesome shelter monitoring staff, behind me is angie davis and robert hill who actually -- they make everything run themselves, as two staff. so i just want to shout out to them. i actually was a staff member back in 2013 for around five years, so i have close ties to sheltering monitoring committee clair lindsay was going to share slides -- i'm not sure if you have the slides in front of you? if not, i will try to do my best and run through these four quick powerpoint slides on the screen over here for today. but we're here today because s.m.c., the shelter monitoring

committee, is going to sunset, july 1st, 2022. and we're here to seek your support and to ask for a board approval to extend the committee to -- for five years to july 1, 2027. this comes with a lot of support, obviously, from the committee, from other stakeholders like local homeless coordinating board, h.s.h., homeless coalition, everyone would like to see s.m.c. continue. but just briefly, the description of shelter monitoring committee is that its charge is to monitor the mandated 32 standards of care for the shelters -- for the shelter sites. we do this by doing site inspections. the committee volunteer members and the staff do site inspections. we -- the staff takes complaints, does investigations,

and will also do report outs to the appointing bodies to rules here, to the lhcb, and so there are annual reports and quarterly reports to provide that information. in 2020, covid happened. shelter-in-place, and s.m.c. was on pause for probably most of the year. at the end of 2020, s.m.c. sunset day was 12/31/2020, and they were kind enough to extend it another year and a half to bring us to july 1st, 2021 to work on what we are doing here today to do strategic planning on changes to the legislation. so that's why we're here today.

last year d.p.h. recommended that the committee members not do site inspections just to keep folks safe, in 2020. but in 2021 as we ramped up, robert and angie started doing site inspections and started taking complaints to try to get things started. and as importantly tried to ramp up community membership. and one -- lastly, about the committee membership, there are 13 seats. currently, eight are filled. four seats -- well, there's four applicants that are in the process to seek reappointment. oh, i'm glad that it's up now and you will see it here that one is board of supervisors, there's two from l.a.c.b., and one at the mayor's office. it's really -- just a shout out

to angie who has been like full-time recruiting, wherever she goes on site inspections and just using the whole network to try to tell members about shelter monitoring committee, and give information about membership and see if folks are interested. so, we're happy that there are four members here and thank you again, chair peskin, for helping out for seat one. it's historically been probably the hardest seat to fill. i remember when i worked on s.m.c., we had someone in that seat but she couldn't stay too long. it's, you know, having a child and you're homeless. so anything that you could do to help loosen that criteria, that would be really be cool. >> chair peskin: and during you speaking the city attorney and i and my staff have all communicated and that

legislation will be ready to be introduced and we will hit that in june. >> cool, thank you. so, lastly, i'm pretty much done but i just wanted to add real quick that i have been out at 9:00 p.m. at providence shelter and doing inspections and meeting with staff. and conducting surveys with clients to provide all of that feedback and information back at places like this. so i feel like s.m.c. gives clients staying at shelters another place to go. right now there's an internal process where they can go but s.m.c. when they come and they talk to angie or robert or they email or they call, it's really meaningful to sit down with someone and just talk about the issues that are coming up for them at the sites. you know, it's a really informal process. the sites have to respond in three days and there's like a

three-day thing and respond in writing and address the issue in seven days. so it's really -- it's really helpful for clients and the community to -- it's just really important. >> chair peskin: thank you, mr. simi. and i don't know if mr. hillman or lindsay you want to add anything, but you are welcome to do it and i want to appreciate your work and the work of the committee. all right, clair, come on up. >> thank you, chair peskin. hello, and thank you for having us, vice chair mandelman and supervisor chan. i am angie david -- that's okay -- you can call me whatever but just don't call me late for dinner.

>> chair peskin: clair is our contact which is in my mind. but i -- i appreciated our conversation last week. my bad. >> that's fine. i have 16 years working with this population, our most vulnerable folks in the city. and i have had this opportunity to move forward to be with the sheltering monitoring committee, where i truly believe that i'm in a role to have a voice that counts for our people that sometimes their voices aren't heard. i'm constantly and tirelessly recruiting to diversify our committee members, which is something that i believe that every member or every community that stays in shelter should be represented. so, you might not see, because it's not up, but i really and truly are working to diversify our committee. i do think that the clients

having an outlet provides them empowering. and so it can be frustrating for our clients when they have only an internal opportunity to have something that they disagree with. so i find it very empowering. and sometimes it's just working it out, talking it out, and letting the clients know that they have an outlet and truly that their voice is being heard i think that the extension -- there's a lot of work still to do. and as you can see, you know, we've had a tough time where we had the death of one of our committee members and two of our members had to leave to go care for family that have been stricken by covid and the devastation of the covid that their families have had. so it's an ongoing issue. i'm constantly working for the recruitment and there's still a lot of work to be done but i

believe it's a lot of good work to be done and that's why we're asking for a five-year extension. thank you so much. >> chair peskin: thank you, angie and my apologies again. i think that we're happy to extend it. any members of the public remotely who would like to speak, and before that i see supervisor mandelman on the roster. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you, chair peskin, and i have some questions about how the shelter monitoring committee does its work. and also why -- why this function is a committee function rather than a staff level function? i mean, are there any members of the committee here? maybe folks are calling in. so that may be during public comment that people will identify themselves. but i am just curious -- i mean, i imagine -- i mean, i would imagine that there needs to be ongoing monitoring of shelters, but given the abundance of bodies that we have dealing with

homelessness, why is it important that there be a committee of non-city staff engaged in this function? >> that's a great question and thank you for asking that. so we currently are providing oversight to 10 shelters and we are trying to increase through the navigation centers which would be another eight. that would be 18 sites. that would be very challenging for robert and i to provide two announced inspections and four unannounced inspections. so the community members, they enjoy doing inspections, although i think that jeff mentioned that they were on pause for the -- the covid -- like a lot of things. but they all now have submitted their proof of vaccination and boosted to the city.

so, you know, it's -- we have -- we need the bodies. >> supervisor mandelman: so is the primary function of the community members to be volunteer inspectors? >> yeah, they volunteer and do the inspections and robert and i go out and also do inspections and also train staff members on how to do inspections. and then they turn in the inspections and i digitize them and send them out. so their role is to do just inspections and robert and i are the folks that take the complaints and, you know, we sit with the public to take the complaints and we work on what is the 32 standards of care and whether it's an infraction or not. and we follow through and work with the shelters and robert and i work with the shelter for resolve or solutions or not, you know, there's not always fine news, but, yeah. the 13 bodies are to really help us with the inspections. >> supervisor mandelman: okay. so what happens at the committee meetings? >> pardon? >> supervisor mandelman: so when the committee meets, what do they do?

>> robert, you want to take this one? when the committee meets, what do they do? >> chair peskin: come on up, robert. >> this is my colleague, robert i will let him take the question. thank you. >> hi, chair peskin and vice chair mandelman and supervisor chan. i would add to what the committee does -- the members of the public -- i think that -- i see it as they are representing the unhoused community. you know, they are able to suggest changes. for example, we have one standard of care that we're just adjusting to add warm water. there was no standard of care that said that the shower had to be warm. and so they see with different eyes than -- i mean, i know that i try to be empathetic, but i just don't have that experience -- that lived experience. so many of our members have lived experience and they are maybe in some ways better at

seeing issues. i know that as a supervisor in state service for many years, i didn't have much incentive to notice that there was a daisy chain of extension cords there but if a safety inspector came in they would have no problem giving me more work. so that's one element of it. so in the meetings, we also -- the members discuss possible changes. they bounce things off each other. and they look for consensus on what could be done to, you know, to improve the work. there's an additional value i think is when the staff at a shelter has to tell a client about a particular rule, being able to offer the client another party to go to so that the unhoused person doesn't have to

simply take what they're being told. they can ask -- come to the committee, and they can join the meetings, the monthly meetings, and offer their personal experience. so i believe that there's also that benefit to the shelters that they always tell us that they like us to be there and to come out to visit them and to join in their community meetings, their town halls, and so i -- i would like to think that it is sort of multifaceted >> supervisor mandelman: and what are the consequences, you know, of a report? so your folks go out and they find stuff that is bad and then what happens? >> well, in our monthly meetings we -- we have a public summary of what's happening. so the shelters are called out by name. so if you have four complaints in the month and other shelters have zero or one, i think that catches the attention of management in order to help the- >> supervisor mandelman: to

justify -- all right. >> to justify the resource provision to address those issues. and it also, you know, over time, with enough data it can give a picture of how the performance is relative to other shelters. >> supervisor mandelman: and that's catching the attention of the management of the shelters or the management of d.p.h. or h.s.h.? >> h.s.h. -- >> supervisor mandelman: [indiscernible] what correlations are between d.p.h. and h.s.h. around these evaluations? >> well, we have one member -- employee of h.s.h., that serves on the committee as the -- so we have a d.p.h. member and an h.s.h. member. h.s.h. member is a fairly senior experienced manager. so that's a huge benefit when people have questions and she is also able to take feedback, back to her colleagues. the h.s.h. has the contracts, and is able to influence i think

the shelters to improve their services when -- >> supervisor mandelman: and h.s.h. contract awarding -- >> i believe so. most shelters are under contract through h.s.h. >> supervisor mandelman: that's my question, you are doing your evaluations and reports, does it land anywhere? >> chair peskin: and i will add that at my meeting with d.p.h. last week and h.s.h. did participate and was actually very supportive of having the s.m.c. and having it continue, and ms. dylan-schneider spoke to the fact that it was helpful and h.s.h.'s evaluation of their shelters. >> supervisor mandelman: okay. all right, thanks, everybody. >> thank you. >> chair peskin: are there any members of the public who would like to comment on this item number 6? >> clerk: yes. there are no members of the public in room for public comment. if you are joining us remotely, please -- you would like to join

us remotely please call 1-(415)-655-0001. and the meeting i.d. is 2496 905 4544. and then press pound and pound again. once connected you will need to press star 3 to enter the speaker line. once you hear that you have been un-muted that is your cue to begin your public comment. there's nobody in the room. and there are two listeners but nobody in line to speak. >> chair peskin: okay, public comment for item number 6 is closed and i will make a motion to send this with positive recommendation as a committee report on. that motion a roll call, please >> clerk: yes, on the motion to recommend this item as a committee report [roll call vote] the motion passes without objection. >> commissioner falzon: and we >> chair peskin: and we are adjourned.

>> everything we do in the tenderloin, we urban outfit. here, this gives us an

opportunity to collaborate with other agencies and we become familiar with how other agencies operate and allow us to be more flexible and get better at what we depo in the line of work in this task. >> sometimes you go down and it's hard to get up. so we see ourselves as providing an opportunity for the unhoused to get up. and so i really believe that when they come here and they've said it, this right here is absolutely needed. you can't ask for nothing better. >> the tenderloin is the stuff that ain't on the list of remedies, liked the spiritual connection to recovery and why would i? why would i recover? what have i got to live for? things like that. and sharing the stories. like i was homeless and just the team. and some people need that extra connection on why they can change their life or how they could. >> we have a lot of guests that will come in and say i would like -- you know, i need help with shelter, food, and primary

care doctor. and so here, that's three rooms down the hall. so if you book them, they get all of their needs taken care of in one go. this is an opportunity for us here in the tenderloin to come together, try out these ideas to see if we can put -- get -- connect people to services in a i worked on the it for 16+ years and i workeded an endless cycle of people going to the emergency room. i wanted to address those unmet needs. i have a satisfaction when we make a real difference in our clients' lives. we were getting people housed, connecting them to treatment, and seeing them through

sobriety. don't be afraid of failure. i have failed at things in my career and they are opportunities to continue on. it's important for women and women and people of color to see representation matters. when i first started my career 25 years ago, there were not that many other women. so it is amazing to respond to meetings and go to meetings and see other female leaders and learn from each other. this career is my dream job from working on [ indiscernible ] to being the chief and overseeing a division. it's been challenging and

i'm thumb i number s to hear from community. departments on services offered at the current usage guidance center. members that would like to speak should call 415-655-0001. again the meeting id is 24840 91719. press pound and pound abegin. again. if you have not done so press star 3 to be added to the queue. madam chair. >> thank you so much. we are happy to be here today. it was a long time coming. it's such an honor to work with you president walton and the effort with so many of you

young and adult leaders that are here today. we are so excited to hear from you. i'd like to give a special thanks to tracy brown who is a leader with president walton on the effort. carolyn that started off with mike at the time. when we started this effort and with nicky who is now moved to my office continuing that work. carolyn continues that from the public service office. i'll turn it over to president walton to begin. it really makes a difference to see so many young faces in the chamber. i'd like to thank everyone part of making this a special meaning time. your leadership is extra

ordinary, we extra. we can't wait to hear from you today. thank you everyone for being here this afternoon. we apologize we did run over. it allowed a opportunity for more young people to be here. most of you have been through the journey with us. even though we didn't reach closure like we wanted to in december of 2021. we are moving forward. there is a lot of positive things to report as we continue. so, i'll just start off by saying the last 20 years crime has steadily declined across the country and san francisco and san diego. this is due to new justice reforms and how we view youth. the city of san francisco has been apart of this. everyone deserves to have

someone to believe in them. they are making changes err day and impacting the live of the youth. the steady decline is attributed to many of the visionary programs we launched in partnership with community agencies and various departments. i'd like to take the time to thank all of you for your work. as we know in 2019 the board of supervisors passed an ordnance to require the city to close juvenile hall. the work was moved over to the human rights commission to take the lead and worked with consultants and advisory work group to come up with a list for the board to adopt. today, you'll hear from the city department. their input on the recommendations. they have been asked to present to us how their

department works with juvenile department population. they will have 5 minutes to presentment of course we'll hold questions until the end unless it's something for clarity. i'd like to thank dr. cheryl davis that close juvenile hall work group. all of our community partners and young people who have been fighting to make this happen and work towards the reforms we would like to see in san francisco. we have a lot of work to do and we didn't meet our closure date. i hope the justice reform work will move forward while we work on getting a new facility. at the end of today's meeting we will ask the department of real estate to look for facilities and opportunity for us as we talk about the closure movement. keeping in mind there are

obstacles in particular with what the courts want and as we talk about having a place for young people. with that, i do want to one, again, thank the human rights commission director davis and ask her to come up and say a few words. then we'll talk about how we'll hear from the city departments for the rest of the hearing. dr. davis. >> thank you so much for this opportunity to say a few words. i'd like to thank you for your leadership and listening to community when you started this. i know some people were good to see ki today. i know they were instrument aland on the ground moving this forward. i'm great for for the process and the folks that participated. i think the challenge sitting

before you now is moving it forward and how to be respectful and responsive as we figure out what happened the need should be addressed. we are talking about realtime and the fact that folks are still being funneled through what we refer to as the school to prison pipeline and elementary school. it's playing out realtime for us right now in the schools and tension that we have. the question is what are we going to do, right. so, if there is nobody being referred to juvenile hall then

essentially it gets shutdown. what are the things we need to do right now. i just, i'm basically on a very personal level begging we notary to do what we have been doing because clearly that hasn't worked. we should look at what comprehensive sieve services look like. there are congress veryisations and programs funneled through departments already i have a person in mind and we spoke about the supervisor that we worked with and on the verge of being placed in a place we didn't want him to go if we didn't have the other strategies it doesn't matter if we didn't commit to doing better and

different, we'll do the same thing. i'm grateful for the process and this time right here. i'm hopeful we'll acchallengely do what kneads to be done to make the change and see what we want to see happen. thank you for your courage. now let's take it to the next level. >> thank you dr. davis. as statele earlier we will hear from a few city departments playing a role in the work we will first hear from the police department lou

dennant frost will answer questions. good to see everyone and ask away. >> lieutenant frost are you there? we presented the department with questions prior that i believe some answers were submitted. i can ask the questions or did you have a presentation or what you submit. >> we have answers, i can bring that upright now. so, the department has been working in conjunction with the huckberry services.

there is a plan for most of the juveniles. if we didn't have a plan in place they will have to go through the system available and that's the criminal justice system. it's pretty formal. it can be problematic. we are partnering with huckberry. we are trying to funnel them to diversion to lead to more positive outcomes for the youth we are dealing with. regarding the recommendation we are reviewing charging decisions. we recognize this has an

impact on the decisions and actions they deck dictate w they interact with youth. this is covered in the report. it's straightforward with no room for interpretation or additional analysis. it states robbery is the fa lonnous taking from his person or presence and accomplished by means of force. they are unable to ignore the elements of the crime at the point of contact regardless of the severity of the injury or there was no injury to the victim. those under the age of 17 or younger are prohibited.

they are detained and not free to leave. they must call an attorney. the public defender hotline and must offer the youth the ability to speak with a guardian before any type of questioning can occur or conversation. they limit the information a officer to get to come up with an accusation. the department is committed to work with city partners to support to work and implement the change san san franciscs would like to see. regarding the issue of a written statement of problem able cause there are forms to

the justice center that require the circumstances of the contact with the youth and behavior and conduct they justify the arrest and transport to j.j.c. included in the admission fortunately to provide during the process of the youth. this process is in place. they can only make arrests based on probable cause and they are included in a section of the admission form. we are doing that. they should implement policies to guide the immediate review of the problem probablee written by law enforcement. accomplishing this directive is not in the per view of the police department. this could be something the

juvenile probation department would have to work with the district's attorney office on. i know for adults, all of our reports are shared that's not something the police department would have to implement but other city agencies to accomplish that. >> lieutenant frost, before we get into the weeds. i have a few questions and if we have follow up we'll bring those questions up as well.

who has been in charge of diversion works at the police department. >> we have an executive sponsor commander walsh. he's over seeing with ourdy our department legal council. we discussed diversion in the working group. others have weighted in and subject matter incompetency experts on juveniles and policy. as well as commander moran.

a lot of times juveniles are victims. >> what's the total budget allocated to serve youth on probation or for the diversion works within the police department? >> i don't have the number for what our proportion is devoted to that. the diversion works, if we wantner with an outside agency like huckberry i'm not sure if the police department is providing those funds for huckberry. i don't have that offhand. if you could it would be great to get the information of number of staff and those dedicated to the works and what the salaries look like. that would be helpful as we go

forward. my last question, in term of this, what location do the police utilize to do diversion work? do you go to huckberry house or is there space at any of your stations. where is the work taking place. >> well, transport used to take to huckberry facilities. i'm drawing a blank. >> huckberry. >> they are the police department identify youth that can be diverted and they are handled by huckberry once we

have handed them off. so, we are able to due vert those we can. a after the arrest or contact happens for a violation that could be diverted. it's not just the police with huckberry but jjd and jhl as well. we have interacts that are cast yule and consent al. we have so many interacting

with youth. what do you do after 5:00 p.m. >> when we have enforcement interaction with youth remain the same. it's a little bit later. we work very late hours. ser taney auto not business hours. closer to midnight. we will contact the jjc and speak to personnel and we'll give them a rundown of what the enforcement contact we have with youth is. if they are under arrest and then they will make the determination if they must be admitted into jjc or released to a parent or guardian or other responsible adult. the contacts are the same.

if they are closed it rolls to the jjc once closed for the day. >> thank you, luteinant lieutenant frost. >> thank you, sir. >> we'll hear from the district attorneydistrict attorney's office. we have casey to presentment. >> perfect. >> good afternoon and thank you for having us. just going to go ahead and respond to the questions asked and then i can answer any other questions that you might have. so, to begin with the total budget allocated to our office to severing youth on probation and working with youth on probation is 1,893,000. that includes managing attorney, three assistant

district attorneydistrict district attorneydistrict attorneys, one victim advocate, a d.a. investigator, and percentage of a second victim advocate who is our human trafficking advocate that works with youth that might answer the system but didn't want to learn them as human trafficking. as well as forced labor trafficking. currently, there are no no vacancies. we didn't have a contract with any other agencies for the work. i did encounter youth in the divert ingredient programs

. . . >> before i start, are there any questions with regard to what i just stated? >> just a quick question you may not be answer right now. what is the entire district attorney budget? >> that is and i can not answer at this time. >> and i did find out and so there is also a question with well being advocates and if we

have any with severe trauma and those of us who are in juvenile court every day can see that is 80% or higher and too often a youth is in the system without addressing those things. as a system, we also cooperate to con in late case management and it is important to recognize the mental health treatment and in the form of well beinged a voe t kas and also references the district attorney's unaccompanied children's assistance program which serves unaccompanied minor, many of

which have experienced trauma in the home countries and as well as on the journey here. we partnered with stanford university to develop the art therapy program to address the trauma that the u-cap youth hold so with the bilingual kids and with regard to shared leadership, we also think that that is a good idea. san francisco is the very unique devoted to working with at-risk youth and system involved youth and have been around and many

youth succeed because of the relationship with his or her case manager and sometimes people bring up the fear of duplicating services but the truth is a lot of youth coming into the courts who are actually placed and probation are very high needs and to have comprehensive services isn't nice to have but is serious so with with regard to family-based services is good and as much as possible now, we try to keep youth in the community and the youth are able to applied by the law and stay out of trouble in the community and thrive in the

community. and programs like dtap have existed for many years also and have a navigator that excesses and develop case plans and the problem is that they are underrer sourced and the staff are underpaid and we really do need to re-invest in these resources. thank you. >> thank you. any questions, chair? >> thank you so much, casey. and now we will hear from our public defender's office and do have patty lee who is in the chamber and the working group. i have a power point and that my wonderful larry robert who is at

the office downtown can put it on the screen. >> through the chair, you will see a button on the top right corner and click on share and click on that. >> we can see it. thank you for sponsors this and continuing this amazing, incredible journey with all of us and with folks that i see in the audience today. to what we do, the public defender units provied representation and social work advocacy to currently 330 clients youth serve and we project that approximately 400 clients in the next year with

extended foster care with ab12 cases which is the largest population in the juvenile justice system and where do we serve our community? we are at the jooufshl justice center on woodside avenue and the be magic program and the director here in the western edition. and how do we al gait our budget and staff? the total budget is approximately 385,162. it is approximately 9% of the total public defender budget for magic programs and the youth defender unit and the total number of staff is 14 and we

have one social worker vacancy and in the magic programs we have subcontracts and primarily flow from the bayview magic program and third street youth clinic and clinic food security is 72,250. the park and rec 131,200. and the contigo bayview co-op food security program 19, 500. to go to the more salient questions which is what do you think about the wellness advocate. and why? we have expanded our own model of holistic representation with the addition of social works and defend in court with the well

being of youth and families in the communities. we know it works. we have been doing this for decade which is leads to successful outcomes resulting in more youth and diversion, restoretive justice programs and early tem nation from probation and most importantly, leading to healthy lives and families which promotes public safety. we know that the wellness model results in de-incarceration. today 11 youth in custody. this is monumental. for the past several weeks we have no girls in custody. i with will say of the 11 youth in custody, only two are public defender clients. the social work advocacy that we provide to every public defender

client from the very time they touch the system until they leave the system, i believe is a major reason and we have so few public defender youth in juvenile hall today. we have been approached by community members to lead the wellness advocacy program. magic is first created in 2004 to prevent youth from entering the system. with the impact model over 100 community partners. we look forward to collaborating with you and the community to

develop this concept. family based services. to me this is a no brainer and we support community-based services. one of the goals and values of the juvenile hall report is to keep youth at home with the family where is they want to be and have the best opportunity to thrive. the program should be based in the community where the youth live, involved a voe t kas and service providers who have the lived experience similar to those of your families. to be willing to meet the youth and families and provide the individualized support. a constant refrain from the meeting is to provide flexible funding with a transformative approach to shift funding from agencies to the families and

communities that we serve. and on the issue of shared leadership, i enthusiastically support this. with closing juvenile hall, we need to have systems in place and shared leadership came up frequently in the closed juvenile hall meetings and listening sessions. community-based organizations should not be at the beck and call of counselors and probation. for youth in detention, community-based programs should be permitted to work with the youth while in school and during the waking hours. cbos should have equal investment and time support and resources to work with youth in any noninstitutional home life fail that we build and have

parity and pay for good quality advocates inside and more importantly outside of any institution. this is not a new concept of shared leadership in los angeles and california and across the nation hoping to close their juvenile halls and are looking at us to take the lead and i am including the audience here and forward thinking and proactive. i say let's do this right. i know we can and i know we can and we will with the incredible vision and support and effort. i am committed to working

closely with you until we shut it down. >> thank you. >> just one question. just for my clarity. did you say increases with youth and the system and number will increase because of the number of use in extended foster care? >> right now we have seen a reduction in the number of youth that are leave foster care are entitled to receive ongoing benefits so that they can live

excellently and many are outside of san francisco. it is a voluntary program. for, i believe, for my office, we probably have about 60 clients in extended foster care and who are vulnerable and homeless without any resource. we have been working with the courts and community partners and n funders to secure general income to follow those youth, but i want to emphasize that one of the strongest recommendations is having flexible funding to follow all the youth and families. and part of the ordinance is to

reallocate gunding from budgets and the closure of juvenile hall to the community. so that we can provide that funding. >> do you feel any questions, chair ronen? >> first of all, thank you for all of your work and chairing this committee. it was a labor of love and difficult work. >> it was difficult work but committed to seeing through to the end. >> absolutely. i heard you won't retire until juvenile hall is closed. >> that is correct. so you will be seeing me around if a little while longer. >> that is a conflict of interest. we want to keep you, but i get it. so if the public defender

through the manager or the office itself ran this wellness program, how many koord naytors or advocates do you think you would need to properly serve the youth. that is the good question to follow the youth from the very moment that he or she stepped in to this system. and frankly this, applies to youth on diversion as well as mentioned by the officer frost so if youth were diverted, we could have well beinged a voe t ---ed a voe t kas over the 90 program -- the advocates that serve youth in san francisco. so if we want to just focus on youth on probation and to have a

wellness coordinator through magic, which is in the community, that this will make sense when we are serving 400 to 50 # o youth. we don't represent all the youth. i think it makes sense to start off with two coordinators. and the well being advocates should be in the community. in the community based programs. and it should be those programs that work directly with the youth that come to court, that conduct the home visits, that are there for crisis management and any time a night or day which is what our social work staff is available for our compliants. and they follow that youth and family throughout their involvement in the system.

that is the only way it will work. you cannot abandon the youth. you cannot shuffled a voe t kas and that is a problem with the parity in pay. so there are a lot of bulletproof people who can't survive and raise a family in the city and we're asking them to really commit their lives in a very difficult job to commit your life to working with a young pen and insuring that they are safe and that their well being is protected. and not only for that youth but for the families so that is the big picture. but i would think that initially you would want to start off with two as part of the infrastructure.

>> thank you. thank you so much, patty. >> thank you. >> and now we are going to hear from our department of children, youth, and their families and i know we have director maria -- >> as well as director dorsey and jasmine dawson who will be presenting. >> i will be presenting remotely. thank you so much, president walton and chair ronen for calling this hearing. although it has been a while, it is never too late to really bring all of us together in the city. and once again, my name is maria sue t director for department youth and families. dcyf has the privilege of administering the san francisco children and youth funds and we

administer these dollars via our nonprofit agencies as well as to partnerships with city departments. so i actually have a slide deck that i would like to share, and i will operate my slide deck. sorry. i apologize. there you go. so once again, i am the director for the department of children, youth and families. in preparation for the presentation, we were asked to share some information about the grants that we fund. so as you can see here, we administered a lot of money in different service strategy areas that all roll up into one big service area that we call

justice services area and we fund different types of different strategies that have a number of nonprofit agencies inside that provide the program. in total, we allocate almost -- well, $17.8 million. almost $18 million in funds to nonprofit agencies throughout the city. i have a number of slides here that i will not go through, but it's really to demonstrate the depth and bredst of the cbos that we fund and the type of work that they provide. as you can see, one of the categories that we fund is called cultural programming where we ask nonprofit agencies to provide services that is culturally relevant for children and youth and for the young people in the justice system. the next category is young adult

court and case management. girls and young women's programming and our community assessment and referral center. the next category is detention. based services that are programs that go inside the juvenile justice center to provide services for those young people there. and then we have a category called miscellaneous that is -- and i apologize for having a category called miscellaneous, but it is -- these are very specialized services that once again support our young people within the justice system. and then we have a service area called mentorship that provides once again mentorship support and pairing caring adults with young people and that is connected or that is adjacent

young people. in total of all the cbos that we just saw, they provide services at 86 -- i'm sorry, at 68 different sites throughout the city. 18 of the sites are at the public schools. one of them are at a charter school, at kip academy. 37cbo sites throughout the city and 13 other facilities. and that includes the juvenile justice center, the county jail, and public housing. within all of those nonprofit agencies that i just displayed, they have 29 subcontractors, so for example, one could have a lead agency that has multiple partners underneath them. life cart is a lead agency with multiple partners underneath them. and in this fiscal year, fiscal

year 21-22, our cbos projected to serve over 3,000 youth in their grants. anded a of april, this year, there were 2,000 young people that were served and that entered into our data system. please know that cbos have a month lag in the cbos entering data into our system. if you want to know more and have more information about any of the cbos, we have a very detailed list of all of our cbos, the performance measures as well as the data on our website. and we were also asked for our opinions on some of the recommend dagss that were in the report. first recommendation was for the family-based services. and i will say, of course, i

fully support having more services for our families. currently dcys and juvenile probation are funding a pilot project that is a community-based, licensed foster family agency program. the agency we are working with is called alternative family services and they provide emergency and long-term placements for youth ordered to out of home placements by the courts and there are a total of 7 licensed and intensive foster care beds available for our san francisco youth and the pilot project. pretty soon, dcyf will be release the rfp to expand the justice involved young people and families. the types of services we will be included in the rfp will be to

support families navigating and provide family treatment and family wellness activities with support parents and teens. the other questions that we were asked to comment on was the family advocate. it is difficult to navigate through the difficult system. and however, and with a well being advocate could be, should

be, can look like and we questioned about the feasibility and the role and responsibility of the well being advocate. in the report, it talked about having the advocates be available 24/7. and it talks about training around restoration and healing. and the ability to establish clear lines of authority which we fully support but ramping up into that will take time and take a lot of resources. and it talks about access to flexible funding. in terms of dcfy, we fund our cbos and the flexibility of the funds would look like. and then, of course, there are the other components about committees and trainings and establishing agreements and data

sharing which we fully accept and agree with to insure that the cbos involved in juvenile justice involved and have access within this system. and finally we were asked about shared leadership. i am all about bringing and creating the larger table and bringing more people to the table. so with deep commitment to advancing equity and healing family trauma, partner, educational institutions. we prioritize children and youth, transition age youth and family's voices in setting funding priorities and building our knowledge and presence in neighborhoods across the equity

framework. that concludes my presentation. i am available for questions. >> thank you so much, director. do you have any questions, chair ronen? >> i do have a couple of questions. and with the $18 million, roughly $18 million investment, do you feel the breakdown from 0 to 17 and 18 to 24? >> yes, i do. with the split. and so how much of the 18 goes to 0-17 and goes to 18-24? >> yes, we do. i can share that with you and the seven license beds for foster care, are we at capacity? >> i am going to ask our deputy

director of community partnership to answer that question for me. >> we are not at capacity. that pilot began in september, but we are not at capacity. >> got it. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. with the team and we have chief miller here and to have the advancement of the slides.

so thank you. and i was laughing on the way here because i know last time we were here for this, you heard a lot from me. and we talked about state laws and regulations and processes and so many slides and so today you actually asked me to present on a few things. it kind of balances nicely and i appreciate it. i want to say something i started with last time and it is touched on and patty mentioned it. every time we come together to talk about this, we should start by acknowledging how far things have come and how much good work happens here already. and not even just in the last two decades and we have a strong network of community support and are trying to activate a lot of the work that is in the spirit of the report and i will go to

the first slide. i only have four. and so my first thing that i was asked to present on just quickly is where we are in the way of asking for some funding to support the design of the building to collectively imagine what that might be. and we are feeling the desire for urgency however it can look and we wanted to make sure we didn't miss an opportunity and probation did butt in the capital consultant to start working with all of us on figuring out what we could do and this is a mouthful. i am not going to read it. i did try to highlight the pieces of it that are critical

and this goes into the capital budget ask of the city and the capital planning committee met on monday and they are advancing this in the process of the 500,000. and i want to note a few things about it. one is that it is not tied to a specific address, right? and the second thing is that it is written to be really consistent with the spirit of the legislation and the things that we heard during the work group process. as i mentioned, the consultant which can mean a lot of things here is about an architect who can both edge case us on the best thinking in the field and this is not probation making up the member in the vacuum and none of us are architects or planers and this is in coordination with the city administrator's office that we came up with this figure. next slide please. so we were asked today just to

provide some company tear on the three concepts that other folks have been touching on. i will start with the wellness advocate and also called a well being advocate in some conversations and it is the topic of many convictions over the last few months. we have been in the conversations and the one thing that we can all agree on is we don't have agreement now on what that role is. and that there is still work to be done to flesh it out. so what i know to be true is that we are hearing from young people and their families that there is something missing and that is taking time and detail to do it. and i did list that probation things are centers from

beginning to end and the first contact of the case managers working in the community with the people and i want to note that it is important to us that these are decisions and full-time decisions that this is not an ancillary function or job for them. we look forward to be in the conversations and at the table and i want to note over the last few months juvenile probation has been working together in some work groups to flesh out ways to collaborate better including groups of people with young person and family and really working differently to support them. and we have been holding a place for the well being advocate in that space and not really kind of assigning the roles or getting into the details on it.

so we will decide it and moving on to family based services, so kind of like with wellness advocate, family-based services can do a lot of ways to support the young people involved in our system. and this is in the juvenile hall process. and for those who heard me present on the djj closure work, you heard me say this also came up as a need over and over in the process and the committee that san francisco has to figure out how to handle the closure of djj and came up over 50 times as a gap in the separate body. the good piece of that is they decide how to prioritize funding coming from the state to support our young people as a result of djj closing.

maria sue totally stow my thunder and it and aiming for a june 1 release of request for proposals to put more funding into the community to do a whole range of family support. so there is not an arbitrary distinction on who merits additional family support and who doesn't. and final slide. so we were asked to comment on the shared leadership and is an incredibly important principle and that can look a lot of

different ways and drill down on what we think we mean by it and there is a continuum from are we planning the schedule and programming in the hall together to are we making decisions on staffing and structure at the highest levels. so with the areas not that it is legible but as an important reminder to all of us that is page 53 that is a question and to incorporate into the report and a list of the kind of things we have to think about to do shared leadership in a custodial setting and think about what shared leadership looks like in a community setting. my own commission and our president is a great example of

that. and to me is how do we leverage what we have and to minimize duplication and what structures need to be created in the community and in the way we work together. a lot of work to be done so really enthusiastic and take the time to do it right. there are two two questions and interested in hearing this through the project process and i haven't necessarily gotten a response to this and that we are spending in certain ways. i would love to hear what the thoughts are about that and what

ideas are in place and is something we haven't heard about. and what i can say is that what we have been trying to do is look hard at new funding coming in and the up iffeding in the budget to increasingly use them to go to probation and other kind of state money that is folded into the budget that we have discretion on how we use and more of that over the years have been used to fund the personnel costs and to hold that to use more freely for the priorities that we are interested in here.

and this is the great example to add that money to the state money that is coming down and do more for our sfam familys is one way to handle it. i will note that the same request for proposal will also fund more credible manager life coaches to work with our young people. >> what are your thoughts a what about we can do about the courts? to get them more actively supportive and to think about working with this in a way where we can be successful so any idea or strategies there? and it is a complicated issue and a delicate issue for me to speak about the court. they are a state agency. they have their own cannon of ethics. when we talk about within the justice system and a number of

us has the monthly meeting and to talk about how to do the work better there and actively engaged in figuring things out. that is a tougher nut to crack and i will share one of the questions and the liberty of last week with a meeting to talk about warrants and collectively put together warrants that is a specific part of the closed juvenile hall recommendations to work with them to activate that now. >> any questions? >> chair ronen. >> i think i will save them for the project process. i certainly have been discussing

one of the major objectives of our legislation. and this is proved to be challenging. and it's proved to be even more challenging that we could have imagined given the district state rules regarding a physical building. i am very excited about this ask for an architect because i think being able to envision and imagine without necessarily an address but with visuals to say this is what we could provide to youth that have to be in the secure setting. and to push us toward and to

close juvenile hall. and just want to ask you a couple of questions about that. so capital planning is moving that in in the process. does that mean it will b available if all goes well for this coming fiscal year? >> we asked for it for the fiscal year and are in the budget with tex expertise of creating a secure but not institutional setting? so to go to bud and i think that is the process and we would be at the table. and so i think naming specific architects is a tough thing

going down the path of that and doing the building of spaces and including other california counties and has been part of the the design of the current hall with so much of the conversation on educating me on the aspects of the current hall that he would never design today. and we talk about how much that hall isn't that old. he was just so clear on things that absolutely would be done differently in any place today. and the need and desire for architect who is do that work right to situate something in. and it is what existed and to find the right expectation. >> moving forward to close

juvenile hall which i am excited about the potential of the wellness advocate and more family-based services and shared leadership and i want that hall closed. this year the plan is to fund a community to come up with that address. and is there work planned to continue to try to find an address where this potential so that is one place and i am not aware of where real estate might be and looking at that with this point in time and the design contract is to identify a cost

of building and is hard for leadership to make the decisions without knowing the respective costs and that is to help generate that conversation. >> thank you, chief miller. last but not at least we have the department of public health and you have the floor. >> hi. thank you. anna from dph is going to be advancing my slide. we will wait for those to pop up. >> i didn't want to mispronounce your name. >> thank you.

as the director. >> thank you, chair ronen and president walton for having us committed to serving the youth and families. next slide. >> through the chair -- >> i am working on advancing the slide. >> no worries. there we go. this is to give a robust system of care and many levels of care and programming within each of the levels and the overall

budget is about just under $90 million and about 65% of that is estimated to go to contracted providers in the community. any program could end up serving a youth in the juvenile justice system and could be linked to services along this tier and continuum, but the presentation we are focussing on today and the questions we are answer have to do with programs targeting and invested and investing in juvenile justice populations. we will first part with our clinic and give an overview of the contract providers and answer the questions you have for us about the recommendations. next slide. special programs for youth or s.p.y. is the 24/7 comprehensive medical and behavioral services inside of juvenile hall and is staffed by a multidisciplinary

team to culturally relevant and accessful health care services. and services are provided with title 15 of the california standards. next slide. >> as you know, there have been declines in census over the years and especially during covid and with the juvenile justice perform and the acuity of youth behavioral health needs is high. and youth in custody with a position shared that is with the linkage and the next annual census. next slide.

in terms of the budget, we had 33fte and are at 17 and 6.12 of which is vacant. and close to 2.5 million budget is tied to dps positions would need to be reallocated and the budget is tied to the position to be reallocated within dph and continued with the noninstitutional place of detention. next slide. this is really hard to see but this outlines a lot of the contract provideers and juvenile justice services and mental health and there is 3.75 million and flexible funding and a little over 100 thousand dollars

of which is j.p.d. work order. these are approximate numbers because the fiscal year aren't certified and you can see there what is in the contract and how many served this year so far. the board had questions on if we provide any mental health beds for use on probation in the system and probation involves youth and j.p.d. youth and all have access to the 23 hour crisis stabilization and the diversion program and provide the linkages to in-patient psychiatric hospital beds. in term of residential beds, juvenile proomegas departments and makes the placements and contracts to provide mental health services in the settings and similar to the catholic

chair tis and 8 beds with staffing shortages available. and as already noted by dr. maria sue, there is beds they have obtained at alternative family services which is one of the contractors that provides mental health services. next slide. so for the recommendations that you had us focus on, d.p.h. is most closely connected to the family-based services but will touch on each of these and is outside the direct purview and it seems to be a lot to understand about this role. however, it is our belief thatted a voe t kas and system navigators are needed to navigate complex systems. this is distinct from behavioral health clinicians and

coordinators for youth and families that are xekt kekted to intensive services and introducing other individuals in their lives they need to develop a relationship with and coordinate around could be overwhelming. we have want to be mindful of that and the well beinged a voe t kas would be in the process is not to over-assess the youth and hope this can facilitate connections for youth to services that might not be connected to services especially to the hubs for linkage to care. in terms of family-based services we share the goal of building out robust prevention and family focused services and hire a leadership position in

the system within the special mental health system and oversight and evaluation of prevention and parenting supports across san francisco. and focuses on reform efforts for families. the ffpsa and juvenile department to support prevention services and dps and vision is a partnership in this to work closely around the implementation plan guided by the state. in terms of the shared leadership this is more within the purview of j.p.d. and the other systems to comment on. and the contracted ccbo providers. and the scope of the leadership

and provision around cbos in terms of our role versus their role in running the 24/7 medical and behavioral detention center. that is all i've got. i do have just one question and you talked about work orders so is that from or two? >> from. thank you, dr. maria sue. >> i don't have any questions. >> thank you so much. i do want to appreciate the departments that did present this afternoon and thank you for being here and stick around after late start. and now i believe we are at time for public comment.

and to approach the podium and we are at two minutes on hold. wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. if you would like to speak vant done so already, press star 3. thank you so much. >> i am too old. i have been what going on about the accountability with the

different departments, there is no sense of urgency. to talk about police and to see the community-based person and how long do we need to talk about that? and maybe you develop a dashboard reasoned a seen in the community before they are in the system. i am begging you to take that role. it is like over 60 million and we have very few kids in the system and 290 kids in the system. and 100 are from out of county. 70 aren't even on probation. they are on ab12 and i can't

tell you how many are over 18. we can do this. we have the money to do everything everyone is talking about. we need you to help us do this and how did this happen? suddenly we know we are going to build a building at ygc. talk about having a building and place where people have emotional trauma associated with it. how did that >> thank you. again, folks, we are at two minutes. i an i i apologize if i have to cut you off. let's take the next commenter please.

>> right. >> i am a community organize we are the young women's center. and when we get us at that frustrated and and got to be doing something better and with the work on the next problem and the next and the next. and what does it look like and with that system and criminalizes our youth and to be a part of change. so this is important to understand us as adults as guidance and role models and when we are mad at the problems or don't know why it isn't working out with this particular youth to ask yourself, am i doing my best? can i do something bet sner we can. we can all push ourselves to be best and if not best, better than best.

that is not the time to critique a youth but to critique ourselves. so that we can appropriate ourselves to the lies and yes, with the guidance and youth and feeling and every day of our lives to be getting the attention they need. and as the youth and community members, it is our job to be supporting the self-determination and put the youth in the positions and that the youth sit at the seats of power and how do we choose the diversion and reinforce that into our own lives and own hands? to not hire resources that are rightful to us and to be

transparent and not criminalize us and to u humanize our struggles. and with the from different institutions and around california that is a good majority of my life. living with life long trauma from effects of dealing with societal and the socioeconomic issues that are rooted and led by soulless entities like a police department. i am also of self-determination

and to help me in the personal growth and the way to impact others and to earn a degree and to go back into the communities and do this work. i am also the example of what this means that someone having access to resources and with the lived experience node to be at the center and to make the decisions and evolve in how you conduct yourself as a from that land that is led by the people most impacted by et with the programs doing the work and the

millions of dollars and you need to come from healing restoration and the rise center with a diversion program called restore and get involved in the youth and their life and teaching them accountability and restoration and connecting them to the resource. >> thank you so much for your community. >> next speaker please. >> hello. i am the youth engagement coordinator from this prament in district 10 and 11 and a student at san francisco state university. i support every demand by the young women's freedom center and in solidarity with those most impacted. trading in 100-bed facilities

for one with 30 is not the end of incarceration and the city will be looking to fill the beds in return for profit. you have failed to include, uplift, and consider those most impacted by incarceration and the process did not consider the youth and leadership from demanding a place in this process that replaces the file file with alternative publicity, transparency and accountability. this is the first time participating in person throughout the entire process. granted, the pandemic played a part and they didn't attempt to make this access to to luxury of time away from work and family and no access to the internet. think about the difference between reforms and transformation of systems. this replaces wit a facility that has a historical track record of abuse and maintains bars on the win dose. where is the conversation of

prevention? and the average number of people during the pandemic was less than 20. the recommendations are reforms that keep children locked away with no agency and with the reservation and the two people do not represent an entire population from juvenile incars nation and not filled throughout the sur racings of the work group to develop this plan made in a rush and moving forward, we need to be bolder and don't just include youth and family. >> folk, if we can have a single line going this way. >> thank you so much. are there any members of the public who would like to speak? just approach the podium.

and i wanted to say a few thicks. one is we have a new way and if you look at the 11 youth in the hole today, four are committed. that leaves seven youth in the and are youth awaiting replacement and the numbers shrink and dignity and humanely.

and 7 is a number we can work with, people. the other thing i want to go back to is the main reason we are all here is because we aren't allowed to use cbos we were already paying. jpd was not making any referrals to cbos and people were upset, justifiably. and $11 million going to agencies we couldn't spend. if we don't get youth connected from the moment they are cbos, it is hard toed know this they can do this so with the hearing and different exposure and have never had a case manager.

use what we currently have and then look at the surveys and whether or not it would work out. >> thank you for having this meeting. we have spent hours in meetings with you, separate from you all, and all by ourselves as well. through covid, with the weekly for two hours technically, but more like four hours actually every week. and then doing a lot of side stuff. we have made a lot of the recommendations that have shown up and have come from folks in the jjpa. we are dedicated and passionate group of people in this process and we are not going to go away

and we fundamentally support all the things that were asked today about wellnessed a voe t kas and there is a lot of confusion and there is a lot to be worked out and at a base level we are supportive of the process and with family oriented services and are supportive of shared leadership for the obvious reasons and that they are apparent to having conversations with the community. i want to echo the request from others about holding people accountable to what this looks like and how we move this forward to completion.

>> is there any other member who is would like to speak? we're going to move on to the remote public call-in line. we have six listeners on the line with three in the cue. if you could unmute the first caller please. hello, caller. you are on the line. >> hello? >> welcome. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. and i am watching it on tv and does my time start? >> yes, ma'am, go ahead. >> okay, great. let me mute it. sorry. and with the yearing and the young people who spoke at the beginning and the service providers who have worked for hours to come up with a plan to close juvenile hall. i am here to say that i am a service provider myself. i am nancy hernandez.

i have been a high school speecher in san francisco for many years and work with the youth organizations that i see represented. all of us have been pushing to close juvenile hall. to see a proposal for half a million dollars to ask for planning is exactly off the macintoshing. to close juvenile hall and shut it down. this pandemic has showed us that all of us can pivot. and i think that every time nonprofits are pulled up and shown on a screen as if the jobs could not be deployed to do other things is misleading. every one of us is a nonprofit worker with a bazaillion different things and if there are a small number of youth or large number, we want to shut

down this system of incarceration and provide services for young people to develop into the leaders that you saw in front of you today. thank you for hearing me. >> thank you so much. let's take the next caller please. >> so supervisors, the first thing i want to say is that juvenile hall with incarceration started in incarceration as to go away. but i was reading a newspaper a newspaper about laguna honda and to removing the elderly from laguna honda so that they can use and and trajectory to tear

down so to tear down and put it in writing. and your incarceration at juvenile hall and with that type of what we call restorative justice. i don't trust it, supervisors. nor do i trust the city authorities. they always have a hidden agenda. that they wrote and created a curriculum with the restoretive justice model to heal themselves. thank you so much. >> we have one speaker left in the queue. if you are part of the five that are listening and have not spoken and would like to, press

star 3 and indicate to us that you would like to speak. otherwise we will take the last caller. >> good evening, supervisors. i am a staff attorney at the youth law center. thank you for this hearing and your continued commitment for closing juvenile hall. we want to add a couple of comments. first t department's revision pertaining to youth should be coordinated with this process and incorporate the principles and recommendations of the working group report. it makes no sense for this to be disconnect and should be rooted in community, able to serve youth and family and continue beyond any system contact. and finally, we have heard in the past that regulations and

the ability to re-imagine what the detention could look like. there is an opportunity right now to influence the regulations if state agency is undertaking the revision process. san francisco should be actively engaged in the revision of the regulations and advocate for changes that allow us to fulfill the vision of the closure of juvenile hall. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. we have one more caller that popped up in the queue. let's take the last caller, please. >> hello, everyone. i am the deputy director at the center on juvenile and criminal justice and the co-chair of the juvenile justice providers association. thank you, president walton and supervisor ronen for moving this work forward. i recognize that they are coming here today with different

viewpoints and different perspectives, but so long as we stay focused on what is best for our youth and truly listen to what the young people have to offer and i was a skeptic but that is wrong. this is about change and as a community member and a cbo representative, we are ready to engage in the hard conversations to start the shared leadership today and the youth facility. we are ready to do this now. we have planned an planned an talk and talked and are very eager and ready to implement

this change now. please let's begin the work. let's start the change today. thank you. >> thank you so much for your comments. we have another caller that popped up in the queue. let's take that caller please. >> hello, you are on the line. welcome. >> i have a quick comment and i have been attending this meeting and something that i wanted to point out is that with the society and planning and designing and talking about the access and the juvenile hall shut down.

so building this new facility and will move it back instead of moving forward. a lot of time the voices are not being heard. we need a place where we as young people can go and get the impact on the feedback and how this process is moving. and i just don't have a place that can i go myself and share my ideas. but besides this, to have with two minutes and cut us. if this is taking too long and seven youth and four of them open and now only one. why is it taking so long? and and so we are in there and with the trau that that we have and with this moving forward.

>> thank you so much for your comments. madam chair, that completes the queue. >> thank you. public comment is closed [gavel] >> thank you so much, chair ronen. i do want to first start off by thanking everyone who showed up today both in person and everyone listening virtually. i do want to remind everyone about the fight we had together in 2019. it is important for us not to lose site and how hard that fight was and how we all had to come together to win what we achieved. because sometimes when you win, you can get to a point where you verth what you are all fighting for and we came together for the singular focus of shutting down juvenile hall and providing an opportunity for our young people and if you remember during that

climate, there was a bigger divide between the board of supervisors and the executive branch and there was a bigger divide between community, jpd and the leadership of the juvenile probation department and we hadden an extremely, extremely positive goal to hit and that fight is not over. the only way to get across the finish line is to remember the space that we were in at that time. one of the reasons we haven't moved forward all the recommendations is the fact that we want to allow for more youth voices and continue the conversations with the joout and with providers and continue those conversations with

community but of course, we also have to make sure that we do take some concrete steps forward. we do have a report and some things in the report are definitely things that are working that have put us in it place where we are down to 11 as we move forward in the position to shut down juvenile hall and if it were not for some of the obstacles with the courts, there are things to do to snap a finger and achieve a lot of what we want to and there is real obstacles and what the court wills allow us to do an those are just facts. with that said, we will continue to work with the department of real estate to look for property and i am supportive of chief

miller's request in the budget and the work around design. we have met with the department of youth and families and the rfps and the work going out to support and address the young people in providing them opportunities that didn't exist before. asking and calling for everyone that worked together to put together a plan as advocate and that terminology is not something that we are stuck on, but most certainly that there is someone one place and family coordinations and for our young people and we will have to, of course, get more specific on what that is and drill down on that. and also asking j.p.d. and come back with the collaborative leadership models to be

implemented as we continue this work. there are a lot of recommendations and i want to commend the working group for putting in the time and as you listen to young voice, there are some things that definitely accurate. we were stalled in some of the work because of the pandemic which is very real. not to make excuses because you all know we are about getting things down, supervisor ronen and i and supervisor haney at the time and the rest of my 10 colleagues who supported this, we worked hard to move fast and quickly as we could to get to this point. and so by no means are we going to abandon the work now. i do want us all to remember when we were working together on all cylinders on the same page, that is how we were able to move this work and we're going to stay in that place and be at that place. when we have disagreements, we got to continue to fight through and remember what the common focus is and that is to shut down all and we will get that

done. last thing i will say is we do have so many other cities that are looking at this work and so we have to be successful to let our young people succeed. we will continue to do this work and i am proud of what has happened and what what we have done, but most certainly we have not crossed the finish line yet. i want to thank everyone br for being here and your work. sorry t last thing i will say is i will be asking to -- i will be making a motion to continue this to the call of the chair. >> great. i, too, want to start by saying that it was very inspired by the comments of the youth. i just keep thinking to myself, gosh f we set a million dollars per youth when that youth was

young, when before they had to grow up in poverty and in a neighborhood where they witnessed violence, eating nonnutritious food, going to a school where it was impossible to concentrate because they were hungry and didn't have a safe place to sleep at night. and then we would have prevented that youth from ever entering the system in the first place. and sadly we have a system and we are living in a country where over time we de-invested in the basic human dignity and well being of youth and families of the country and is linked to systemic racism, which is interlinked in every system that exists in society. and so it's not an accident that you see that the majority of kids that come into contact with the criminal justice system are black and brown. that is related to systemic

racism which is related to poverty and which is related to a system that makes no sense p. and it takes youth to come up here and say this makes no sense. why are we building another building with bars on the windows, right? and meredith who called in made the good point that we have a moment in time where we can work with the state lawmakers who have bound our hands and put the handcuffs on us locally to think about something even more transformational than just shutting down juvenile hall. i am really looking forward to getting this group together and thinking one of our co-sponsors of this original legislation, supervisor matt haney s now an assembly member. and can we all work together to unbound our hands through state legislation so we can be even more creative and more

transformational. that is number one and i appreciate that comment. number two, i, again, want to appreciate chief miller. i do think there is something about imagining and putting on paper and seeing images of what's possible and what's different that with youth voice from the center of the process. i think we need a process where we have youth getting together with the architect and go through a participating process of designing what would feel truly different and transformational for them. and so i want to really put some real effort around that process so that it's not -- it doesn't take forever and there is the urgency that the president of the juvenile probation commission seeks along with all of us that we need to put

boundaries around things otherwise they go on and on and on. and so when president walton and i and supervisor haney at the time put the december deadline, we knew it was urgent. [please stand by]

same time as we are, you know, trying to make it obsolete. i keep thinking to myself, gosh it would be so fun to have the kids, you know, tear down the bars in juvenile hall. what are we going to do with that old space, too? let's use it productively and revolutionize the space. how can we use it so it really, you know, is -- it's next use can be something liberating instead of repressive. there is a lot to do and thankfully the number of youth that are being locked up are --

there are so few of them. thank goodness. and let's get it down to zero. and then we can think more creatively. so there's lots to do. yes, we'll continue this item to the call of the chair and then work together to come up with some clear timelines for next steps. but, you know, as long as president walton and i are here, we're not letting go of this, not for a second. we've got a lot to do and little time. and we can't let a single youth stay behind bars a day longer than forced by the state to keep them behind bars. so with that, madame clerk, could we have a roll call vote on president walton's motion? >> yes, as a matter of housecleaning, if we can make a

motion to excuse supervisor melgar and safai from the meeting. on that motion. >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor ronen: aye. >> you have two ayes. >> supervisor walton: aye. >> supervisor ronen: aye. >> you have two ayes. >> passes unanimously. do we have any other items on the agenda. >> that completes the agenda. >> the meeting is adjourned.

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>> welcome to the may 23rd, 2022 meeting of the san francisco board of supervisors. supervisor melgar, chair of the committee joined by vice-chair supervisor dean preston and supervisor peskin. the committee clerk today is erika imagine o i would also like to acknowledge the folks at sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. madam clerk, do you have any announcements? >> clerk: yes, the board of supervisors and committees are convening hybrid meetings that allow in-person attendance while still providing remote access and public-health via telephone the board recognizes equitable access is eti