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>> we have a quorum, the meeting is being held in-person in san francisco. i would like to remind all individuals present in attending the meeting in-personcious that all health protocols must be adhere to at all times. masks are available upon request upon any entrances. we welcome the public comment. the commission will take two minutes of public comment first from those attending in-person and then those attending remotely. meeting id 24921851744 pound, pound, and pressing star-3 to raise your hand to speak.

you must stick to the agenda item, unless you're speaking in open public comment. we ask that public comment be done commission to order. on behalf of the commission, i would like to extend the help to staff during this meeting for their help. i would like to announce that item 10 has been removed from the agenda and will be rescheduled to the meeting of august 23. mr. president. >> thank you, and before calling the first item, i would like to announce that the public opinion utilities commission acknowledges that stewards of the unseeded land located within the historic territory of tribe. and other family of the historic recognized commission

verona band of alameda county. also recognizes that every citizen residing has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation of the tribes and aboriginal land since its finding in 1932. it's not only important that we recognize the history but we acknowledge the fact that the people have established a working partnership with the ufpuc and flourishing members within the san francisco communities today. madam secretary, please call the first item. >> first item is item 3 adopt new finance understate to allow hybrid in-person meeting during the covid emergency and similar resolution at a commission meeting within the next 30 days. and public comment please.

>> members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 3, please raise your hand to speak. do we have any members in the public that wish to make a comment on the 3. seeing none, mr. moderator, are there any callers with their hands raised. >> there are no callers, thank you. >> public comment on item 3 is closed. >> thank you, commissioners any comments on item 3? if not, can i have a motion to second. >> move to approve. >> second. >> moved and seconded. roll call. >> commissioner ma raned. >> aye. >> maxwell. >>'s. --aye. >> poxen. >> aye. >> you have three ayes. >> item 3 passes. next item. adoption of minutes. >> there any questions or comments op the minutes.

>> seeing none. >> do we have any member of the members present that would like to provide comment on item number 4. seeing none, mr. moderator do you have any callers with their hands raised. >> madam secretary, there are no callers on the queue. >> thank you, item 4 public comment is closed. >> thank you, commissioners any additional or comments or motions. >> moved. >> moved and seconded. roll call. >> measure and. >> aye. >> paulson. >> aye. >> maxwell. >> aye. >> you have three ayes. >> and the minutes are approved. next item please. >> next item is number 5. anybody wishing to make a comment, and not on the agenda, please raise your hand if you wish to speak?

seeing none, do we moderator do you have any hands raised. >> we have four callers. caller number 1, go ahead you have two minutes. >> speaker: i'm dave warner from palo alto, thank you for your service we're lucky to have you as commissioners. to my knowledge, we stopped receiving plans on the negotiations. i think we learned that our need for water in storage is not as great as it used to be. i think between lower demand and the draw and possibility earlier flow is helping our water rise due to global warning.

so in the spirit of doing the right thing, we decided to release our extra water down the river but because the plan is still held up in the litigation, they don't contribute. to we released some of the extra water but the water district would not release anymore of their centers. if.ff pc takes fleet in working with all parties and finding creative solution, amazing things can happen. as we saw with the northern rivers, substantial funding should be solved, with our already higher rate. please ask to receive regular updates. we asked several times if we can get back to the meeting table. it would be great to know what progress can be made. >> thank you. >> thank you, for your comments. >> next caller, you have two minutes.

>> speaker: i'm matt parker i'm a whitewater kayaker for 25 years and i want to tell you how much i appreciate the close, and these days, we have a mental crisis, when the human body is around whitewater, it produces serotonin so any chance you can get on whitewater and help the mental health on this country, it will help. anything you can give is much appreciated. >> thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. >> speaker: francisco decosta. i want the community benefits.

on community benefits. yesterday i had a meeting with some woman that was suffering. suffering. from taod insecurity and here you are sitting on your asses, 300 million grant, and we want more about it. i'm asking you sir, i want to talk to you face-to-face. we can have a meeting at the contracting center. i want to give you details about the corruption still going on at the puc. and we need to have a meeting

on what is happening in yosemite area because of the fires. and all of you who think you are wise, we learn that having done right by the first people. you have not done right by the first people. you have polluted the water and now you're going to suffer the consequences. and get back to the community benefits, i would like to speak to the general manager, only half an hour to pin point to him who fought for the community benefits and who is getting it one our children and single mother are suffering. >> sorry, caller your time is expired.

next caller, you have two minutes. >> speaker: good afternoon, commissioners and chairman. i'm nathan rangle i'm president of california out doors i've spoken to you a couple of times over the last few months. we're representing commercial outdoor providers including the outfiters on the calamee river and i want to thank you, as the earlier individual, i want to thank you for the continued flows that we receive on that resource. your your organization, the city has been a, you know, has been basically provided for the, you know, the environmental and societal and economic goodwill on that river and it's really important as i pointed out, the last time i spoke with you.

rivers are the engines that drive economies through places like grant land and other communities across the state. it's important that we continue to have that dialogue and the ability to take care of that resource. so for those reasons, i thank you again and we look forward to continuing to work with you and your commission and your staff, thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary one more caller has joined the queue. caller go ahead, you have two minutes. caller, madam secretary, there are no other koulers. >> thank you, general public comment is closed.

>> thank you, next item please. >> item 6 communications. >> commissioners any questions or comments on communications that you have been provided? seeing none, public comment please. >> members of the public who take two minutes of remote public comment on item 6, please press star-3 to speak. do we have any members of the public who wish to provide public comment on item 6. seeing none, mr. moderator do we have any members with their hand raised. >> madam secretary, we have one member. member, unmute your line. >> speaker: i'm gabe, i'm one of the author that sent a letter that demand projections to the finance projections, this is regarding 6g, the

letter that he rera was impressive to set projections and providing more transparency than one expected. the finance projections can be closer and maybe on the low side. this information is quite useful, it gives all stakeholders for of common understanding of figure and possible outcomes. we now have a range to think about. caring this a step further, the chart projects that projections are somewhere between 100, and 195 based on the finance projections and 216 based on the 2020 urban water plan. this is great information for alternative water planning. to that end, our letter asked the needs chart with a third column. the chart has two columns based

often contracted obligations. i hope you'll do this, thank you again general manager he rera and staff. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, another caller has joined the queue. caller go ahead you have two minutes. >> speaker: good afternoon, this is nicole ceo and i'm also speaking about the water demand projections. i appreciate this report from mr. richie. i know this is something that the public has been asking you for. and i want to add a few remarks based on it. first as i reported to you in the past, you know, baca has been doing demand and populations, since 2000. and our population projections

have actually tracked very well with actual population, seen in the service area for the last 20 years, while admitantly have been off because they have been impacted by covid and several years of drought and things that are difficult to anticipate and difficult to incorporate intoman projections. in addition, i know mr. richie has stated a few times that for san francisco, the urban plan the outer for what you think projections is going to be. i would say that that is different in the service area, it differs by agency depending

on the growth and the connection that the water supplier has to grow. there is a difference for total demand and their purchase projections importantly, the agency that's have multiple supplies, they have the ability to purchase more on any given year. and that may or may not equate to an increase in demand. that is something for us not to forget as we look at the picture, thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments, madam secretary, the call queue is clear. >> thank you, public comment on item 6 is closed. >> thank you commissioners, any further comments or discussion on these items? seeing none, next item please. >> next item is 7, report of the general manager. >> first we will have agm, richie give us the drought conditions update.

>> good afternoon, steve richie for water if i can have the slides please. so this will be a brief update on the drought conditions. i'll go through a number of slides fast, because they're not changing in the summer so they're going to look the same until october or november, but there are some things worthy of note in there that i'll stop for. first, the reservoir and the one thing mostly important to note here, or two things, one both sherri are very close to full. they're still quite full. but water bank is down about 40%. so basically, our water bank account has been decreased by about 60%. that's where the impact of the drought is showing for us. it does not show until very late in the drought. so that's where we're seeing

the impact. whenever i ever said, we're doing better than other people, that's a very low bar because other people are doing so badly. but the impact shows up in the deficit in water bank. and speaking of the other people, there they are, where particularly upper sacramento rivers reservoirs are quite low to state water project are quite low. drought mon jer has not changed, it's probably not going to change much as we go through the summer. precipitation as you can see is a flat line that will be a flat line probably until at least october. and the monthly, just for flex the same thing, we had a few good jobs and a lot of very low months. the same with the bay area. again i pointed this out before that the bay area because of how much rain we got in october

and december, the actual year to date total is greater, so we had a wetter than average year in the bay area water sheds which is an interesting thing that has done some good things for us. snow pack is gone, melt has a occured and we'll talk about that later. : the water is more than 200,000 feet this year which is more than it has been in resent years. and that again, shows that this year water bank has recovered some as it did dropping in the last drought and consecutive years. we're doing better in terms of the sequence but we're far from out of the woods. and fb precipitation forecast shows a lot of no action in california, large wide spaces which delien yate no storm activities.

the total deliveries, this is the slight i want to talk about a little bit. because the green line as i pointed out is this year's demand and we want that number to stay as low as it can, below the yellow and purple lines which representative calendar 19 and 20. last week i just saw the most resent da taxer just when the meeting started was for 2 million 5 gallons a day. so it has dropped, it start today tail off and then it dropped more down below the headline, it's heading towards the orange line, where i said that's where we want to get to if we want to have a good term in use. we'll see how it continues to go throughout the summer. the things that i'm going to focus is what happened with the ecosystem program this year.

as you recall back early in may, i talked about what we had planned to do in terms of managing the run off. we did appear to have access run off coming in. i said i would be back to say what did we actually do? and this is the time when i want to talk about how we man anld run off and did it successfully, and a*z well as filling the reservoir and that's a contribute to the folks who operate the system up there. there is a little button here on that you better not push. we wanted to have a goal on that large pond that shows from the top there with a big orange

blog, that improves habitat in the valley. provides for a lot of insects and other things which feed up the food chain, it's the way, you want to see a valley operate. but it needs to have high peek flows to flood up the areas that allow them to behave like that. so our goal here, would be to take advantage of that and run down in excessive of 200 cubic feed per second. so this is our plan hydro plan, this is the way we planned for it. our planning graph is always neat. so this shows a 4100 cubic peek per second. so this is what we plan to do,

and this is what we did do, so you see here, i'm about may 12, or so we had the weak release in excess coming out of that was in the valley areas. and then dropping off down to about 1500 cubic hundred feet per second and tayloring off beyond that until we got to the period of early june when we did have some still over the drum gates because said she was full and drum gates were up. we really managed the abilitied to get water downstream when we had a lot of water when it came time to filling the reservoir.

you see in early may, storage was climbing up. and when we started to fill water through that, you can see that the fill rate dropped off, we start today fill up again. got to the peak just about the right time in early june where we had a little bit of spill over the drum gates but not very much. so overall we experienced the flow but two hitting the peek on the mark in terms of filling the reservoir, that's how we like to operate to maximize. what did that mean downstream? well this is a view from near the dam down to the popana value which is where the valley

closed off and the river runs through it and i highlighted where pop innocent nat pond is in the bigger picture of the valley. and you can see there, the bond is that deeper brown water, it's sha lo water and some moist ground, that's what we're trying to achieve, that provide for ecosystem benefits in terms of small amphibians and bats and various things like that that are part of the valley ecosystem there that we're trying to support. so we'll be hon to goer what they have changed and gotten some boost over the next year or so. but here we accomplished the

purpose. this is where you see that large ponded area here. it's another part of the valley that we're trying to use to manage the overall habitat. in terms of how we operate the system to get to and manage still down to the valley, we have a good successful year and i'll be happy to answer any questions. there was an inspection by the do, dos department of what? i think it was dos it was on one of the slides.

dof is the department of forester re. oh sorry that slipped in there. that's the d o.c. v is decision of dams. the captioning covers it and i didn't capture it, it's the safety of dams and one of the things is they want to make sure that for all dams in california, all of the pertinent operate right. and so this year, they wanted to make sure that they got there when the drum gates were operating and they were able to control how much water was there at the time.

this is good .d i apologize for getting that acronym slip through. >> thank you, i caught it. >> i noticed it. any other comments or questions? public comment please. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of remote public, on item 7 a, please raise your hand to speak. do you any callers with the hand raises. >> we have two callers on the queue. first caller, you have two minutes. i unmuted your line. >> speaker: this is dave from palo alto, i want to thank mr. richie for the presentation. we're going to hope that we can get more of these present aces, thank you.

>> next caller, you have two minutes. >> commissioner, and i would like similarly to know more about the famine. whenever we have the presentation to include the native american. i want them to be included. it is their land, they are the real stakeholders, they put a stake here and put a stake

there and stole the land. i know at this late year, to make some attempt to restore the habitat and all people that can stoop to that is indigenous people, and they have speak because they have their heart in the right place. which means you cannot trust them, we have to be real now. you have to be real now.

you have to be real, if we don't understand what it is and we don't understand what is racial equity. >> thank you for your comments. sorry, caller the time has expired. the queue is clear. >> thank you, 7 a is closed. >> thank you, commissioner maxwell. >> sorry, i have one more question. who's habitat what critters? what flying things? >> yes in terms of habitat improvements beinger the one that comes to mind particularly are bats and i'll probably get the numbers wrong.

make sure mobilizing gravels there and so, that's something that sometimes we've been able to give, a sad anecdote about that. well we did that in 2017, but unfortunately it was a really big year and we never found any of the rocks.

and have the river behave as much as possible. >> people have a negative attitude towards that. so what is the benefit of having a good reliable bat populace. >> i have a good relationship with bats. [laughter] whenever i'm up with hachachi in the evenings, they're always there. but, you know, they're just a part of the ecosystem. >> and they're a good part of it. >> one of those things if you tug on one thing here and there, it starts to come a part, so you keep it together. >> thank you. part of the balance. >> thank you.

any other questions? seeing none, mr. flint. >> agm is going to present on the pg&e electric grid evaluation. >> good afternoon, barbara hail, assistant manager for pa well. we have decide today buy from pg&e paying for the use of grid as we do eachier to the tune of 2.9 billion dollars has become unattainable, it increases the cost of city services and impairs the city's ability to implement grid dependent innovations. you know that pg&e rejected two offers stating that the price

was too low. so a year ago, we submitted a petition to the california puc asking them to value the assets. pg&e responded with a motion asking the california puc to decline to entertain the city's position. on june 24th, a signed commissioner john renald from the california puc issued a scoping memo and ruling. it describes the main issues to be addressed and the schedule for review of our petitions. that rule is in your packet. the main issue identified there to be addressed by california pu cin their case are the valuation method to determine the amount of just compensation, the list of assets that would be acquired and included in the valuation.

any cost to the addition cost including what damages should be paid and amount. whether the petition assigns with the goals of puc environmental and action plan and invites arguments and briefs on the scope and timing of the california puc's jurisdiction to approve sale of utility assets and that's specific to their jurisdiction under pu code section 201, while the ruling state to entertain the petition is still under review, the california puc is moving forward. the ruling establishes an

18-month schedule by the close of 2023. steady progress, thank you for the opportunity to report on that today. >> thank you, any questions? thank you, i think you covered it well. public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make comments for two minutes, please raise your hand to speak. do we have any members of the public that want to comment on item 7b. seeing none, mr. moderator do we have any callers. >> we have one.

>> speaker: this is francisco again. on the high power line that we're acquiring and how would it be maintained by puc and can we get some report if we do have i know, we should have in some areas closer to the hayachi high-powered lines. how are we doing with the maintenance. and i want to know that fire.

to have the high power lines on the ground and how much will that cost? this is easy to have voted something and another thing to maintain it and maintain standards with quality, high-powered electricians. thank you very much. >> thank you, public comment on 7b is closed. >> thank you, this concludes the general manager's report for this week. thank you. >> thank you. of next item please. >> next item is 8 new commission business.

>> commissioners any new business for the commission? seeing none, next item please. >> item 9 is your consent calendar. >> commissioners any items that you would like removed from the consent calendar? seeing none, public comment please. >> members of the public who wish two minutes of remote public comment on item 9, please press star-3 to raise your hand. are there any members who wish to provide comment on item 9? seeing none, mr. moderator, do we have any callers with their hands raised? >> madam secretary there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you, public comment on the can sent calendar is closed. >> commissioners can i have a motion and a second. >> move to approve. >> moved and seconded. roll call.

>> president moran >> >> aye. >> commissioner maxwell. >> aye. >> commissioner paulson. >> aye. >> you have three ayes. >> and consent calendar is adopted. next item. >> as i mentioned item 10 has been removed from the agenda and rescheduled to august 23. the next item is item 11, utility needs of public utilities commission approximately 21,800 of unincorporated poper owned by the city of san francisco. recommend to the board of supervisors the approval for real estate and temporary restrictions for 21661 of

unapproved land fee and 33,758 of easements interest in pc parcel ap for a total purchase price of 528 and rise director of real property and where the general manager, easement interest to the proper to caltrans. mr. bartle. >> good afternoon, tony bartle, puc, the commission owns una improved land which is now known as canyon road designated as ffpuc parcel 57. can i have the slides please. the map you see there, shows dpe r depicts parcel 57. and the location of the alameda

creek bridge. in this item caltrans, proposed to replace to correct structural and to realign the eastern and western approaches to the bridge. this project is one of several caltrans projects in the area that focus on upgrading canyon road to express standards. you may remember last year, you brought to the commission a highway widening project at the intersection. today we bring this bridge project and in weeks to come you'll see a project where caltrans intend to make safety improvement from free mont in the west to sanoa in the west. and they seek to acquire roughly 21651 square feet to realign the bridge and

approximately 33758 square feet for construction easements. oh this did not work very well. this depicts the four parcel that's are being con void. i don't know how to adjust the image but i'll just leave it at that. it depicts the two parcel. made offer for city property and appraised the property as a april 20, 2021 at 24,528. and the city's director approved that a phrase al on june 17, 2021. the caltrans appraisal was updated as of april 2022 and caltrans appraisers determined that there was no change in the

con solution of 24, 528. and in closing staff respectfully ask the commission to adopt findings that exempt surplus land act determine that competitive bidding process for the conveyence in accordance. recommend to the board of supervisors approval of sale agreement. of real estate and temporary construction easement with caltrans for total price of 24, 52le. authorize--24,528. and adopt the findings under ceqa by 1509 of the ceqa guidelines previously adopted by caltrans with respect to this project. and that is it, are there any

questions? >> thank you, commissioner paulson. >> so i have, thanks for your presentation, and i understand the dynamic and how this moves forward. i know, this is not, you know a very large bunch much pieces but every time you get rid of a land here, and you go someplace else, there is always a read flag that goes up. so in nuts and bolts, what is the benefit to everything of us giving this selling this land for buckle 0. --buck 80. >> the state of california has the power of imminent domain and they plan to sell road

improvement and we're selling the parcels in lieu of a. >> so there is a threat of imminent domain. >> definitely. >> but the good news is there is no reason to believe that this is not just good public policy to help get the structure and transportation. >> right. >> there is no down side to that piece of the policy, correct? >> well i don't understand highway policy but i think, they're basically trying to upgrade state root 84 to cars can move along that road at a faster pace. so they're replacing this bridge and making the approaches to the bridge safer to accommodate a heavier flow of traffic on the r84. >> and transportation and no skin off our teeth, the policy

formula that we're acting on despite the rules and technical threat, which i don't know if it's a threat. i mean, taking imminent domain is a threat coming out of different words. so i think you have answered. >> okay. >> the general questions but you giveaway public land, why. and that was the correct answer to my question, thank you. >> thank you. commissioner maxwell. >> yes, so where does the money go? does it go into a pot? >> so these are water department assets. and so so they will go into a water department fund. >> and that fund specified? >> it will not in the purchase of other land.

i have to confess i don't know what fund it will rest but it's a water department asset. >> i understand it's not a lot. it accumulates. >> commissioner maxwell if i could, it does go back into the water department general fund and that money is not spent in this commission and put into, so it goes into fund balance until it gets appropriated for later use. >> no but to our general. >> to the water department, yes. >> thank you for that. >> thank you. >> and i just had a question on the maps that were presented, there is the plot that is outlined in read. --red and what we're selling here is a small portion. >> just little pieces. >> like there is a dot. >> that's one of the small

pieces, i wish i could have shown the second map. it's, it blew up too much on the screen and i cannot show you the small parcels that are shown in that second map. but these are very small pieces. they're bill piece of that big magenta outlined. >> thank you. any other questions. seeing none, public comment please. >> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of remote public comment on 11, please press star-3 to raise your hand. do we have any members present that wish to make a comment? seeing none, mr. moderator, do we have anybody with their hand raised. >> madam secretary, there are no speakers. >> thank you, item 11 is closed. >> and without further comments a motion and a second. >> move to approve. >> second. >> moved and seconded, roll call.

>> president moram >> aye. >> commissioner maxwell. >> aye. >> commissioner paulson. >> aye. >> next item. >> next item is item 12. . >> [reading item 12] to the management plan to allow shoreline wishing. >> thank you mr. ramirez, thank you. >> good afternoon, tim ramirez,

for land management. several years ago, we were contacted by an individual who asked about fishing in the reservoir. we spofnded and said that there may be one. that person never responded to me directly but did to us and as a consequence. under a court order, we have a deadline that we could provide access to public fishing without jep adderizing drinking water quality. we're not proposing to do that today. what we're proposing to do is make that termination. namely three things, two before we do a third, we would have to amend the water shed management plan. does not allow public access at calaveras reservoir right now.

we would also have if go through analysis with city planning to see the impacts and providing access and fishing in the reservoir. we would have to permit the drinking water which does not allow public fishing in the reservoir. we have not begun any of those process. we would have to need a project to allow minor improvements. as staff, we feel like this would be done which is why the recommendation is before you today. and what we propose as a place to start, is what we think is minimal in terms of implications. so it could be shoreline fishing only, restrict today reservation like we do for

hiking, no boats on the reservoir, and people would have to follow the regulations published by the state that restricts what they're able to do when they fish. we don't regulate fishing and the state regulates fishing. as proposed as luck would have it, a couple of years ago, they were amended and in those regulations, they describe as open to fishing. granted barb was, you cannot keep any trout that you may catch. and this was done because they waufnted to further restribt fishing in the reservoirs. before they made that change there is a section in the regulations that says, if you have a reservoir, it's open to fishing. and of course we don't provide the access, we never have, so when they change the regulations, the staff thought they were making it more

restrictive. up and down the stream, currently in the same regulations, no fishing is allowed anywhere. and that was done to protect the native trout population. these are land lot steel head that if they were allowed would be able to go to the bay and into the ocean and back as adults and that happens now and we release water from clalaveras to support that. there is some that has supported that are important to protect in the water shed and potentially use and reestablish a larger population in the water shed. we have been findful for years which is why we have been working with other agencies and nonprofit organizations to do what welcome to protect this population. nonetheless, other fish live in

a reservoir also and the matter is before you. it's a very long story, this is a short version, i'll be happy to answer questions if anybody has any. >> thank you, commissioner paulson. >> so if we took action on this today, does that preclude us from other inquiries as in the fragility of the system. nothing else can be added if it's like wow, there are consequence that's we didn't foresee as we do this exploration. >> what we have is a proposed project description. we would finalize and take it to the planning department and ask them to consider what ceqa analysis. and the matter would return here to amend the water ship plan and consider taking an action. so this is going to come back before anything happens. >> but as of right now, this is as deep as you think the

inquiry and the changes could be? you don't anticipate anything else that could be added to this? >> anything is possible along the way. but most of the interest that we're aware of is to protect the resource and to not increase the magnitude of the potential impact. so we started off small, so it could change along the way. we would not propose to change it to make it less scriptive. >> the tha* was not the point the point of my question, the question was, if there does not seem to be any guidance from the person suing us, own even though there was a reach out, this is a technical matter, so i'm asking a technical question, is there anything we can do to protect. and you say, this is the best thing to present and that does

kind of circle our ship for the last time, so to speak despite what we get back. >> correct. but other folks have good ideas including our commissioners, so we're happy to take comments along the way. there are many individuals and organizations that have strong feels about this and i'm sure we'll hear from them as well. they may have good or bad ideas, it depends on your perspective. le what you have in front of you is from the staff and what i think we it could be do that could be protective. >> would you feel there is an urgency that we act on this today? >> i think our city attorney would suggest that because we have to bring back to the court by september 1 and they have asked us to bring it to your attention to you today. >> got it, thank you. >> thank you, any other comments or questions? seeing none, public comment, please.

>> members of the public who wish to make two minutes of remote public comment and item number 12, please press star-3 to raise your hand to speak. do you have any members in the public present who wish to provide comment on item 12. seeing none, mr. moderator do we have any hands raised. >> madam secretary, we do have two callers in the queue. first caller, go ahead you have two minutes. >> so first time when it comes to the tourity and safety of our bringing water we have to take the highest standard into the consideration. how does the le