the time to speak in support and my name is alex and i live in the marina at 224 bay street and born and raised in the bay area and lived in the marina for four years and i'm in support of this applicant. i think this project is attractive and good keeping with the neighborhood. it adds a much-needed unit of housing to the city and increases living space that's going to keep a family that's staying in san francisco and permanently provide a family size dwelling to san francisco. it can be lived in for generations and keep the family in san francisco, participating in our community and in our schools. and also, invest significantly in the infrastructure of this building with (indiscernible) and other seismic improvements

that's going to provide life and safety improvements to an area prone to earthquakes and i'm in support of the project and i hope that it's approved, thank you. >> last call for public comment? if you're calling in remotely, press star three. in the chambers, you need to come forward, seeing no additional request to speak. we should go to rebuttals. >> you have two minutes. >> good afternoon, commissioners. winston at 275 villa street. i'm amazed to have heard over these people calling in in support of the project because none. -- none of the names are familiar and i haven't

heard of them at the pre-application meetings and the different meetings that the department was able to setup for us to discuss the matters. so, i hope the commissioners will take that for what it's worth. i do have a petition which was signed by neighbors who are objecting to the lack of scale and the disregard for the character of the particular block on which we live. and it was shown to you that those are only two or three floor homes, three or two-story homes and throughout the marina, despite what might have been said, the four story buildings are really on the corners. your own staff pointed that out at the initial evaluation where it

was pointed out that throughout the marina neighborhood, four story structures are almost exclusively limited to multi-family complexes and are structures that frame and enter single-family structures along the block. i wasn't present at the opening of the meeting today. commissioner imperial usually starts out with a land acknowledgement to our ancestors -- we're privileged to live in this area and it's what she says about us being steward of the land and we -- >> thank you, sir. that's your time. secondary requester, you

have a two minute rebuttal. >> ma'am, i believe you're associated with the first dr requester, correct? then, he used all of the last two minutes for rebuttal. >> okay, so i don't get to say anything? >> unfortunately, you do not. >> he's the second. they went out of order. the first dr. >> i apologize, i thought you were with the, sorry. >> it's okay, no problem. well, commissioners, thank you for giving us the opportunity. >> if you could speak into the microphone. >> thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak with you. i'm just going to cut to the chase because a lot of what i have has been said before. one major point that i want to bring up is that the project sponsor has employed page & turnbull that uses maps and not historic

guidelines to justify the project. they reduced the historic integrity of the district would not be compro prized as long as 2/3 of buildings are retained and it's based on this logic and using the identical report within months (indiscernible) scotts street, if this map is validated by your approval, you would be setting a precedent for 102 additional approvals in this historic marina district that would be entitled to use this logic. to me, this is a huge mistake. then, as you can see, the recommendation by planning to pull the rear deck back from the property line hasn't been adhered to and they're proposing a planter in the location they should be pulling the deck back. historically, this owner has

grown his trees in the backyard very tall so that they -- they shadow everything around them. giving him a planter so he can do that again and cut off the light to bedrooms and living spaces in our building, it's not the right approach. he needs to cut that deck back as planning has said. the shadow study demonstrates if the structure is allowed to go up, it will preclude us from doing any solar on our roof. the shadow studies shows our building is going to be shadowed the whole year. >> thank you, that's your time. >> thank you. >> project sponsor, you have a two minute rebuttal. >> >> thank you, commissioners. i want to speak to a couple of points and first we have been in discussions with mr. winslow leading up to the hearing about pulling back the roof tech on the four story from the south

property line in order to eliminate the parapet that's showing on the south view, so can you pull that slide, i'm sorry, sfgov tv. the right side is what it will look like afterwards. next slide, please. we've achieved it by three feet and reorienting the tech at the center of the roof and we remain privacy there. next slide. respect, we've had conversations with them including twice with mr. winslow and recently. it's clear that neither the dr requester is comfortable with the project without the elimination of the top floor which is inconsistent with the goals of the family. we tried to minimize the impact to the neighbors. but one thing i want to point out, next slide, please, the ground floor of the light well, as you can see from

the entry on the right, the existing condition on the property has a platform at the second floor in the light well area. it maintains a platform and enclose the trash below this area. this isn't exacerbate the existing condition but serving no turn. as you can see from the left image, no windows on the north property line and windows on the subject property at the ground level facing the garage and store an area, so it's not something to be concerned with. leaving this area open would be unsightly for cyrus and marissa but create a pest situation because we've got trash and recycling enclosures in there and taking -- we feel confident that it has no negative impact and it will cause real problems. this is a project that's going to allow cyrus and marissa to stay in the city and they have lived here for years and many

more years and thank you commissioners for your time today. >> thank you. that concludes project sponsors rebuttal. then, that concludes the public portion of this hearing and the dr is before you, commissioners. >> thank you. mr. winslow, i had one question, i think it's on page four of the staff report and i'm sorry if i missed the e-mail you sent. it says on one line you recommend we take discretionary review with modifications but then it says not to take an improved so i wanted to clarify what our action -- >> the idea is take the modifications proposed. >> that's what i assumed but i wanted to clarify for the record, that recommendation. we saw from the project sponsor a proposal around, it seems to achieve the goal of having the five foot setback. it's four feet three inches with the planner. do you have thoughts on that proposal. i don't know if they've discussed that with you or not. they showed a slide of

that. do they have the slide available? if you have any comments, mr. winslow on that proposal or thoughts about it? >> well, it accomplishes one of two objectives. it removes the people on that deck sufficiently from the adjacent neighbor to the north which is good. i think that was accepted or it was -- it was not accepted. you don't want them separated from you. however, the second one was to eliminate the mass of the parapet since it wouldn't be required with a deck removed from the property line so a little bit more light and air could circulate and you know, get the setback of the dr's requester. this was the verbal proposal and this was the graphic version that cyrus and his team provided for him and that would be consistent with the recommendation. ascetic, it's up to their architect to

make it more beautiful, i think. [laughter] that's the intent. thanks. >> great, thank you. and i think those are the comments and questions i have. commissioner ruiz and koppel. we'll go to in-person and then online. >> do i go? >> go ahead. >> i want to follow commissioner morris lead and after consulting with city attorney and disclose that i know one of the representatives of this project and the homeowner professionally through my work as a community planner in the tenderloin. this is a couple of years ago working on a project on o'farrell street that i was tracking but i do i think the relationship will affect my ability to act impartially on the item. and then i do have an additional question. it's not necessarily >> -- it opportunity apply to the hearing and i don't know if

mr. wins low and i don't know if we have planning staff online. i know this came up about when project sponsors or homeowners choose to not increase density on their project. there's an idea coming from supervisor safai on adding a few, that isn't contentious on safai's measure -- >> i don't think it's a requirement as of today. >> not a requirement as of today but curious, is that contingent on supervisor safai complex or will planning take on implementing a fee. it's up to

the board of supervisors to propose whether in connection with the fourplex. this is a perfect example of a project that might have that applied. if we had that rule. >> yeah. >> either way, commissioner ruiz, that would be legislated code amendment that would need to come before you, before we can initiate something of nature regardless whether it comes from the supervisor or the department. >> got it. that was my only curiosity. i think everyone knows how i feel about monster homes and increasing density but i don't necessarily think this project is out of scale in the neighborhood, just going on the goal maps and looking at the houses in the surrounding area. >> great, thank you. commissioner moore? >> i want to remind the commissioner that in all projects (indiscernible) and

previous commissions, we have always tried to stay consistent with how we deal with decks from the rear and holding them five feet on to the property line. and while that's not clarified, it is a consistent attitude we do together as (indiscernible) exercise in many cases and i would ask we stay consistent in order to indeed give the privacy for those looking into others buildings. that's number one. that opportunity mean (indiscernible) but the planter can be in bound and the five feet are added into unoccupied roof. in this case, i would suggest that all floors front and rear where decks are

accruing (indiscernible) we have front and rear deck that goes from one property line to the other front line. including on top of the roof where also mr. kevin said there would be a setback, this would be five feet in order to be consistent. the other thing i wanted to ask and mr. kevin, you're the architect of the building or somebody else can answer my question, i'm concerned that instead of seeing an improvement of the second unit, the second unit, the studio unit on the ground floor seems to be significant in diminishing of quality. when i look at the building, i see access to light and air or into a light well and operable window

and (indiscernible) and this light well is enclosed to the window to the bedroom is eliminated and the bedroom that's being moved becomes an extra bedroom and since (indiscernible), i would ask the quality of this second unit is (indiscernible). are there any -- >> did you want to respond to that? the project sponsor is going to respond. >> commissioner moore, thank you for your comments and questions. i'll start with your second comment about the livability of the garden unit. first, the, and if i can pull up.... the existing condition in the light well does not provide any light at all. that would be sufficient

to utilize that room currently, it has a bedroom and living in that house since mid 2019 and spent time evaluating the existing structure and massing and that's helped inform our proposal in order to ensure maximize livable. to reiterate, this is my home. this is our family's home and we're not developing this on a speculative basis and we're doing to accommodate how best to live as a family upstairs and how best a renter would live in the garden unit, so the reason we decided to infill that was practically speak ago, you can see in the picture on the right, there's no light and that room is pitch back. moving the bedroom further to the garden and allowing for a much larger living space and the sliding windows, the sliding

doors into the garden, that's going to maximize the livability of that unit and the natural light into that unit. i believe there was a question around the functionality of the kitchen as well. and we're reusing the kitchen from upstairs presently as it was renovated prior to our purpose of the home. and moving all those appliances which are large scale from the range to the refrigerators and so on all downstairs and in culminating them to ensure a large scale and not a small micro type kitchen. >> do you -- i feel (indiscernible) in looking at drawings and if i look at the existing condition and the proposed condition, it seems to me that the unit itself is reasonable in size. do you know the existing square footage and what it will be after your remodeling because you add quite

a few support rooms for mechanical and a trash room and very large laundry storage bike room. do you know what the existing square footage of the unit and what it will be after your remodel. >> the existing is 710 square feet and proposed is 666 square feet. i would like to point out the layout of the proposed is much more efficient than the existing. the existing is narrow long shot gun hallway that has a bedroom off a dark dingy hallway and split toilet and so on and the kitchen is tucked away from the back so there's no natural light in that unit. the light that comes through is through two minimal patio doors that have some glass on them whereas what we're doing is creating a more modern layout that is maximized open without column interference like we currently

have and again, creating a large open space so the livability of 666 square feet is much more functional and livable than the previous 700 square feet existing. >> i appreciate your interpretation, i assume each of us can think about what livability means. i'm wondering, what amount of open space and what forum will you be accommodating that? currently, from what i see, you're proposing that the deck -- a deck or overhang or studio or open space and you haven't delineated (indiscernible) so i can see how much open space you'll be giving to that unit. >> i don't believe that's accurate, commissioner moore. if i may because this has been addressed as your first comment as it relates to the second floor or the single story pop out verses what the code allows

which is an option between a single story pop out that goes 25 feet which is property line to property line and it was a compromise with the neighbors and there's a change of ownership with the process so the dr team or dr applicant currently is a different ownership group than the prior owners of the same 3636 scott street. the code allows us to do a two story pop out that sets five feet on each side or take a single story pop out to go to the property line. we have reduced the overall height of the pop out and the impact of the popout on the rear yard. both is in accommodation to both dr members here. in doing and having a single-family pop-out, we have expanded and made the ground floor garden unit much more livable because the dimensions are wider and allows for awe kitchen rather than a

micro kitchen and we don't have anything overhanging disrupting the light. that's the priority of the garden to make sure it's maximize. we have pulled back the second story beyond what code would require, an additional five feet to create a ten feet deep deck so it's useable making use of that space knowing how important outdoor space is and not having the out door space of the upstairs unit conflict with the use that practically the downstairs unit is going to have which will be (indiscernible) of the rear yard at-grade. >> (indiscernible), you may not have understood what i was asking. >> please. >> are you describing to me that a rear yard on grade is ultimately acceptable by the studio unit user? i only ask to what extent does the studio unit

occupant use open space? i wasn't talking about the size of the pop out. would they use part of the garden? >> that's the idea, commissioner moore. the student occupant will utilize the entirety of the ground floor on grade rear yard and we've opportune so by accommodating the upper floor unit and providing more outdoor space for us on the top of the pop-out and then on the roof deck and that's the importance of having those upper floor outdoor spaces. >> thank you for your explanation, i appreciate it. i don't have additional comments and i remain concerned about the bottom unit and wanted to remind any commissioners about the consistency of following the setbacks from property line for any kind of deck, thank you. >> thank you. commissioner

koppel? >> yes, seeing this is a code compliance project, i think the setback up top is, what makes this project, i think still fit in the neighborhood. and i'd prefer to see the planter on that second floor deck instead of the notch -- it looks like there's a missing tooth up there. thank you have anymore thoughts on planter verses the carve out? >> commissioner koppel, thank you for your question. the discussion to date as i understood it, and with the prior owners at 3636 and the current owners are limited and during the mediation sessions and we didn't have one, we insisted on a second because we didn't feel like there was much progress made in the first. it was utilized to really just

vent. we really understood the primarily concern to be privacy. and what we'll call the lego block removal approach, what's on the screen now, candidly just by fewer fact of angles is going to create a direct shot into their bedroom. the idea of having a solid mass here would then allow for that privacy -- >> sfgov, can we go to the computer, please. >> sorry, let me -- the lego block, the arrow demonstrating the view directly into the bedrooms that are in there pop-out verses the planter which again, would then actually create both a physical buffer and then from a line of sight perspective, completely block privacy concerns all along issue was don't stair into the bedrooms and compromise -- the

hedges and the trees there, as you saw in the prior pictures are greater than two stories and taller than our current house. and those were planted before we bought the house in 2019. again, the conditions we're showing here actually enhances the light into the backyard while maintaining the privacy as compared the lego removal. and then maintains the architecture of the design. >> that's all i had. i'm in support of the project as is and i would be more supportive of keeping the planter. >> okay. maybe we'll go to commissioner imperial and commissioner diamond and maybe a motion. commissioner imperial? >> yeah. i also had the same issues or same concerns in terms of the ground floor unit or the garden unit but i think you answered it very extensively and

i got to understand the, you know, your logical thinking and why the unit was actually, you know, use -- what we think is livable. unfortunately, i don't live in that unit so it's really hard for me to also emergency that but you know, from the blueprint, from the blueprint alone, it does look like the first unit or the first rendition is better than what you have provided but i think i understand what you're trying to do in terms of the garden unit and having the kitchen be more open space and it's good to hear there's also access to the rear yard. my other question though is, so the total unit size for the garden unit, if you said 6 to 6 square feet and then the remainder is how much or how or the second -- the upper floors, how big it is?

>> the total building is roughly 4,800 square feet. thank you. >> okay. but the common -- yeah. the common area goes from 60 square feet to 330 square feet and so the garage is shared, the laundry facilities are shared and trash room facility was shared so there's a significant portion of common area on the ground floor. the upper floors, starting on the second floor is where the livable area of the upper unit is. >> yeah. and i guess my question is from the second floor to the third floor because the fourth floor is the roof deck pretty much, how is the total square footage? >> i believe the fingerprint is 1200 feet. so we're talking about 24 square feet. >> that's better for me to understand in terms of the square footage. i am more in line with what the staff is

recommending as well in terms of the floor deck, the parapet, in terms of the -- also the planters and i understand the concept of that but it looks like -- in this way, it gives sensitivity to the neighbors and it's to make it more desirable. you have made some sort of or it's not in the dr about the pool -- the roof deck, pulling back the roof deck, is that something you have discussed with mr. winslow? huh? yeah. it looks like the roof deck on the fourth floor. that's what mr. winslow was mentioning and that's not something that's in the records, in our dr from the modification. >> no, this was something that i believe commissioner moore was

talking about in your deliberations and i think the project sponsor had already response to it. >> it's a part of the project? >> no. >> not yet, sorry. >> we heard in anticipation of the hearing that there may have been some feedback related to this so we wanted to explore potentially solutions and that's what we're showing on this screen. >> actually, i would like to add that as part of the modification on what commissioner moore have mentioned in terms of the pool of the roof deck on the fourth floor by i believe from what our practice have been doing by five feet. and for me the reason for that is that even though this is the livable areas are four floor, the roof deck, it can be intrusive but at the same time with the total square footage of this whole building which is

4,287 square feet, i mean, i think again, we're talking beginning the usability of the roof deck and the livability of it. it can be, from my perspective, it's a big unit or big building which i think and i would have to disagree with you, commissioner ruiz but i believe this is a big building in itself in this neighborhood, so i would take dr and add with the pool back of the roof deck by -- on the fourth floor by five feet. >> what about the planter verses the gap tooth solution? >> i would take what the staff has recommended? >> that was the gap tooth? >> uh-huh. >> [mic is off] >> yes, uh-huh.

>> >> that's your motion? >> that's my motion. >> do i hear a second? >> second. >> second >> i see commissioner diamond and commissioner koppel? >> thank you. i'm fine with the new design of the garden units having recently gone on a tour with mr. winslow on several bedrooms and i have gotten more comfortable with the concept when there's direct light from the bedroom through the large light that's directly between the bedroom and windows and i think this is a better layout than the existing layout so i'm fine with the garden area the way it is. mr. winslow on the gap tooth verses planter, we previously, we're mindful of commissioner moore as comment about consistency, have we

permitted something short -- or done something like worked with three before and done the planter instead of the gapped tooth. >> i think we have. you know, i think the intent is there's a space that's decent enough to provide that separation and whether it's four-foot three or five feet, i think we've been accommodating and depending on the situation in most cases. i think, was there a second part of your question regarding planter and no planter? >> yes. >> could you rephrase it, please. i have a short attention span. >> it's four feet three verses five feet and i think i hear you saying we done something less than five feet before so the second part of the question is planter verses no planter. have we done, are we allowed prior --

prior resolutions that involve putting a planter in instead of a gapped tooth? >> yeah, i think we have done a range of things which includes a situation similar to what the project sponsor is requesting which is the space plus the panter and we have done the gapped tooth with the planter as commissioner moore was suggesting on the inboard side of that gapped tooth. you know, all solutions work. >> okay. and then the roof deck, can you go into more detail, whether or not -- i think i heard commissioner moore requesting it be moved back five feet from the property line and he couldn't come the solution that the project manager come to -- from i believe there's a three foot setback to mitigation

-- it eliminates a parapet. >> the motion was for five foot setback, right. >> right. mr. winslow, have we permitted three feet or generally, do we generally require five feet? being mindful of the consistency? >> in the upper roof decks, we have been primarily pretty consistent with the five foot setback from all building edges. >> okay. >> so, again, i'm a neighbor of the five foot setback on the roof but i'm fine with the planter of four-foot three on the second floor deck. >> okay. thank you, commissioners. commissioner koppel, just one second. i'm asking the dr neighbors on scott street, if you have a preference between the planter or the five foot setback or if it's both the

same to you? if you can approach the microphone, it would be great. >> commissioner tanner, thank you for asking the question. we would definitely prefer the five foot because there's a bedroom window right there and it cuts out the light to have the wall so close to that bedroom window would cut out the light completely from that. >> thank you for sharing that. commissioner koppel? >> no, i was going to, before the motion was made, i checked again. i think the planter actually provides more privacy as opposed to having the big void there and i was going to make another motion but we have a preliminary motion. >> i will -- commissioner moore, did you have something? sorry. >> technically, in conversation with mr. winslow, when we add a

planter, the planter could be outbound from a five foot railing because what we wanted to mark was a five foot setback with someone on the outside could add a planter if they want to. what a planter requires is that plants are maintained and perfect connection throughout the year and when people -- the planter is basically optional, also in change of ownership so the planter can be moved. however, the railing which is adjacent to an occupied deck is extra. so we're interested in what constitutes a buffer for privacy, so if you put the planter on the outside of the railing along the inside along the railing, it's a five foot clear unoccupied tech off the property line and that is what we have consistently executed

and in many cases people still want to add a planter for visual green on the outside but that's an optional thing. >> thank you. mr. winslow, do you want to add? >> i think what's being proposed is -- basically not just a planter that's placed on top of a roof, but it's a planter -- it's a constructed piece of this architecture and that was the intent of reconciling the alignment of the lower window and the four feet three verses five dimension but also i think as -- to such a height that provides additional privacy, visual screening which comes at the expense according to ms. parara but also blocks more light to that lower window so that's where you have to decide. >> great, thank you mr. winslow. commissioner diamond? >> in light of the neighbors request for the gap and

commissioner moore's comments about how we make sure that this is maintained over time, i would not mind with the gap if that's what the rest of the commission likes, i can go along with that. [laughter] >> thank you, commissioners. the only comment i'll make is just to align myself with the comment about, with respect to the property, project sponsor but this is a discussion we had of how do we encourage more density and how do we tax what we maybe don't want or do want and use those funds for different things so hopefully we can see some action, maybe keep that discussion alive because i think that's an interesting solution i would be interested in seeing explored in the city. with that, i don't see any other commissioner hands up. i think we're ready to vote on the motion. >> we have a motion seconded to take dr ask approve the project with -- and approve the project with staff modification with a five reduction of the roof deck

and five foot setback of the second floor deck. on that motion, commissioner ruiz? >> aye. >> commissioner diamond? >> aye. >> commissioner imperial? >> aye. from commissioner koppel? >> no. >> commissioner moore? >> no. >> commissioner, president tanner? >> can i add it's the opec railing? >> that was staff -- that was a part of staff modification. >> aye. >> i verbalized it in the amendment. >> i vote aye on that motion. >> okay. very good. then we have, okay. that motion passes 4 to 2 with commissioners koppel and moore voting against. and concludes your agenda today. >> all right. commissioners, we are adjourned. [gavel] >> envoy your break. >> enjoy your break.

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>> >> welcome to our wednesday july 20, 2022 meeting. >> please rise for the pledge of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> >> thank you. >> take roll. >> yes, please. >> debra walker? here. kevin benedicto? present. max carter-oberstone?

here. larry yee? present. jim byrne? here. >> jesus yanez. we have the commissioners here. >> thank you, we have debra walker here to introduce herself. then we'll move to the next item. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate this opportunity to work with you all. i am honored that the mayor appointed me to join you in discussing public safety in our city and the police commission. i have been at several commissions before. the building inspection commission for several years and the arts commission for several years. i know at least procedural meetings and especially zoom over the last two years.

i spent the last few years doing ombudsman work between tenderloin and doing looted of work where there are a lot of issues that face a lot of people down there. as i was talking to the mayor about the issues, she asked me to serve in this capacity, and i hope that i can bring something to the conversation. to be working with so many of you amazing folks who work on these issues from the chief to all of you commissioners, i'm excited to be talking about these issues and figuring out how we can better serve our city. i will talk more later in another part of the agenda about what i would like to focus on, but i just want to thank you all and i look forward to working with you. thank you. >> >> thank you and welcome and we look forward to working with you

as well. >> with that, can we call the first item to get the show on the road. >> general public comment (the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or dpa personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police or dpa personnel, nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but, may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and police and dpa personnel should refrain, however, from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comment.) consent calendar (reeive & file

department. caller, you have two minutes. >> public speaker: commissioners and chief, glide has implemented the strategy since the epidemic and access collaborative reutilize a health and intended approach which is intended for people who use drugs and including services including outreach, education, treatment. these are all an entry point for many of our other holistic programs. a week or so, an increasing number of production of syringe participants are possessing drug paraphernalia and these are

fully legal for us to distribute and for program participants to possess. their purchase with california state funds. california state law provides for possession of unlimited amounts of home production supplies including syringes and pipes. it would be clear if you could tell them to stop harassing folks and we want to ensure that participants are able to obtain the possession and with a we have given them and they don't get harassed for taking care of their health during a pandemic and overdose crisis. so as we give thoughts to cultural shifts, it's imperative that we shift the modus operandi

to this drug use. thank you. >> next caller, you have two minutes. >> public speaker: good evening. the following is a quote from lisa jones. there is an urgency to address the black system and call it what it is, antiblackness, the use of force and this by sfpd. where is the urgency. there is no urgency. when are you going to take the responsibility and address this unjust statistics which which is your responsibility to uphold the law for all san franciscans. i'm tired of beating a dead horse and tired of this antiblack and this urgency.

we are concerned with the determination between the mou, between the sfda and sf p.d. and sfpd's action including officer involved shooting. as we know, this mou is a result of numerous deaths at the sfpd hands. chief scott announces 2022, that he's intending to end this crucial agreement and upon the d. a.'s charge for the officer and fisherman's wharf. thank you. >> >> hello, my name is jean bridges from the black

community. the following is a quote from wc founder, felicia jones. there is an urgency to call this what it is, abuse of blackness. i'm tired of addressing the sfpd and the board of supervisors. where is the urgency. if it were on white folks, there would be an urgency. when are you going to address this bias as you took the responsibility to uphold the law. as i said, i am tired, not tired enough to quit but tired to beating a dead horse and tired of looking at this antiblackness and urgency and thereby we are asking for help. we are concerned about increased

surveillance by san franciscans being discussed. this potentially hurts black san franciscans. a black san franciscans is ten times likely to be arrested than a white san franciscans and more than 10 times to be stopped in a traffic stop. and sfpd is given the ability to utilize the private citizen video will use it to pursue black san franciscans including the possibility of using video to search for potential offenses. sfpd needs more accountability, not less, thank you. >> thank you, caller. >> public speaker: we need to address what is happening at

ground zero. that is a lot of people in the bayview suffer from mental problems. a fancy way of saying it, they are mentally challenged. we have problems at the san francisco department having their sweet time for behavioral sciences. i say this because the san francisco police department has to first folks on quality of life issues, and in doing so, you have a voice to go to the health department and other agencies to request so that we can address mental issues. these people that come like a parent and start saying the same thing, you know, sometimes it's

nauseating. if you are intelligent, say something and do something. it's the action that counts. thank you very much. >> next caller? public speaker: yes, good afternoon, good evening. i am calling because we are having an issue on 11th street. on saturday night there are a lot of clubs that operate, and one of the clubs put out cones to keep the bike lanes free over in his portion of 11th street closer to harrison. there was an active police officer with his overhead red and blue lights on near yellow, the nightclub that took over from slims. however, up the street, on the

other side of the street there were at least ten cars parked in the bike lane and the officer did nothing to clear the area. any cabs that want to pick up, they have to park or stay in the traffic lane which is used by a bus. why can't the officers offer citations of unoccupied cars for illegally parking in that area. i hate to say this, but i wonder if they are getting paid off? i doubt it, but the officer is sitting in his car and not being proactive about this whole thing especially on friday nights. >> i have called numerous times after midnight to ask for help

at the walgreen's at 18th and castro and the homeless and trouble makers are causing problems. i have asked cars to be sighted but they are not there. >> thank you, caller. >> next caller, you have two minutes. >> public speaker: hi, good evening. i'm talking about the murder of my son who was murdered august 14, 2006 and the murder is still not solved and the perpetrator is still out there. his name is hannibal thomas moffat, jason badu and

matthew conor. one of them is deceased. i am still hurting you guys. even though it's going on 17 years. even the pain still hurts, and i still call in and it's right around the corner. when are we going to solve this homicide so i can heal. i got a call from the detective and i send him a message every morning and he hung up before i can talk. i don't know what he wanted. but i'm hoping that he was calling in support to the police commission to talk about homicides. i pray that's what he was calling for. i tried to call him back, but i didn't get a hold of him. but let's do something about these unsolved

homicides. mothers like myself are suffering. the healing circle is suffering. let's do something. i need something done, please. i'm about to get back out there with a bull horn and scream and holler and say something about my son. what am i to do? i know i call in all the time, and i know this, but i'm suffering. i need to go to city hall with a bull horn and scream. do something. >> thank you, ms. brown. >> members of the public, if you have any information about this murder, please call the tip line, 575-7544. >> next item.

>> consent calendar. >> receive and file. action) - sfpd sb 1421 & sb 16 monthly report - dpa sb 1421 & sb 16 monthly report - sfpd family code 6228 quarterly report, 1st quarter 2022 - sexual assault evidence kit “saek” semi-annual report, january 1 june 30, 2022 - police commission disciplinary actions report, 2nd quarter 2022 >> thank you, commissioners. any request to agendaize any of these items? none, okay. >> sergeant? >> i just need a motion and second. >> i will make a motion to accept. >> can i get a second? >> i will second. >> thank you. >> if anyone from the public would like to comment on the

consent agenda, please press 3 starting now. >> there is no public comment. >> on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote? >> aye. >> commissioners, [roll call] >> >> you have 7 yeses. >> item 3. >> chief's report (discussion) - weekly crime trends and public safety concerns (provide an overview of offenses, incidents, or events occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting.) >>

>> welcome, commissioner walker and commission and executive director and public. >> this starts off with crime trends. we are still up with 6% and no change in terms of the increase in violent crimes. down 5% in human trafficking. which is a small number. 20 last year, 11 this year. >> assaults, robberies and rapes are up 7%. that's a difference of 8 from last year. 116 to 136 this year. and increase of 15 crimes. assaults are up 12%. 1223 compares to 1368.

in terms of property crimes, 4100 last year compared to 3100 this year. that is over 1,000 crimes. >> up 3%. compared to 3278. >> it's down 18%. 156 this year, and overall theft is up 15%. 15242 last year compared to 17400 this year. >> included in larceny and theft, we are up 30% about 700 crimes. 1159 last year, 1864.

>> we have at 112 this year. in terms of homicides, gun violence related homicides, we are down by 11% as well. 125. homicides we are down. 10%. >> in terms of our district stations, southern, northern, are up, not significantly. all other stations are either even with where they were last year and down with gun violence incidents. in terms of homicides, mission and ingleside, mission is significantly up. eight this

year compared to two last year. that is by a smaller number. ingleside is up by two and three by one last year, two this year compared to 0 last year. the rest of the stations are down in homicides year to date. gun recovery, we had 564 total gun recovers in cedars. of those account for 116 year to date. and they are still significantly involved in the criminal activity in the city. significant incidents, we had two shootings to report. the 1900 block of mission, 13th of july 5th a.m. the victim was sitting in the area with her friend when she heard gunshots

and realized she had been shot. the investigation determined the victim was not believed to be the intended target of this shooting. no arrest has been made and the investigation is on going. there were two victims shot in the tenderloin. a suspect walked up to the victims and shot them both at the same time. and they appeared to be the intended victims of the shooting. one was transported with life threatening injuries and one without life threatening injuries. there is information about the arrest and still on going. there was a bomb threat at the airport international terminal at 8:02 p.m. a subject called los angeles and said he had a bomb with him and the secret

service transferred the call to to sf p.d. and the subject was detained while the sfpd emergency operation k9's did a sweep of the bag. the bag prompted an evacuation of the terminal. they took possession of the bag and safely transported them out of that area out of that location for further inspection. he was on a public shuttle and airport car in the garage. there was no bomb located. he was transferred to san mateo who had jurisdiction. there was organized retail theft arrest. this was by an outside

agency. these suspects entered and took purses. the value was at $5,000. july 12, 2022. the vehicle was located to sun city and one of the subjects was arrested and later booked at county jail. they were taken for processing and will get the other individuals arrested for this incident. we also had another theft operation arrest. in early 2022, our burglary unit and task force which we are a member of conducted a months long investigation to the possession and stolen medication and personal care products. the

items were sold online and shipped across the country. a search warrant was served on the subject at his residence and money worth $1,000 was located and our partnership helped make this help. and also really diligent work by the investigators of that unit. hopefully that will help with our retail theft issue in our city. >> strategies to address some of the issues in our city. we've had a number of robberies in our city where high end watches were taken most of them at gunpoint. the investigations have been working with district stations that have been affected by this

as well as other law enforcement agencies who are seeing the same trend. we believe that some of the cases, not all, but may be related and we believe there may be suspects throughout the area in the state and the city. we have put patrols in the areas that have been hit. we also have our plainclothes surveillance teams working with these cases and they have made some progress with the investigations which i will report once we get some resolution which i believe and strongly believe we will in some of these cases. in the central dispatch, there were two incidents being aggressively robbed at gunpoint of their watches and additional staff is being deployed in those areas including chinatown and union square. extra patrol is also in the area surrounding the mall and

surrounding areas because of increased auto theft in the areas. policing is increased and getting information out to the public to be sure they can do what they can to be vigilant and not make themselves the target of these crimes. thankfully no traffic fatalities to report this reporting period. that concludes my report. >> thank you, i'm going to open it up to my fellow commissioners. commissioner lee? >> thank you very much, madam chair. i want to look at the shooting

hoping it can continue on a downward trend from 19 to 22 and hopefully from additional police in the summer months. i have a question to the community policing whether we have additional staff or funding. to have that proceed. >> no additional staff or funding for that proposed ordinance, but it does coincide and basically there are some of our policing strategies. we are working with supervisor mar on that to make sure we work with him with what we have with that and the community policing is a good thing and we want to work with the supervisor and whoever

wants to help to enhance that in anyway we can. but we did not get any additional staffing for that. >> okay. as we wind down this summer too, with additional staff of being deployed into the tourist corridor which is union square, chinatown and fisherman's wharf area. >> do we know how many are there? >> we have additional deployment and our over time detail. it's not consistent in terms of the volunteer details that we had so many x number of shifts on a given day and we take volunteers to fill those shifts. sometimes they are filled to capacity, sometimes they are not. those fluctuate from time

to time and those are in fisherman's wharf, embarcadero, lombardy street. everywhere the tourist seem to go we've had issues with tourist and victims being victims. those shifts are on going and will continue and as the people make themselves to work, but they are volunteering. >> my last question in the mission district. we have seen a drop in homicides. any plans in addressing there and looking into strategy on how many of the amount of shootings and

homicides in the district? >> yes, commissioner, some of the, at least three of the mission were disputes that have gone bad. with that, that's a matter of working with the captain at mission. the public type of homicide could be done by consistent deployment and we see less of those incidents that occur. we have evidence based reports now that when we deploy foot beats, high traffic corridors, the result was a reduction in assault. we have some evidence of support and release of deployment matters when it comes to that. many are

that, assaults that end up being homicides because they get out of hand. that is part of what we are doing in the mission with captain and trying to make sure the staffing is consistent. >> thank you very much, chief scott. >> thank you. >> >> thank you. commissioner kevin benedicto? >> there were people that were accused of possessing drug paraphernalia and indicated they were dismissing charges. is what changed led to a lot of people being arrested for this. i wondered why there were so many more people that were charged on

the department? >> sure, commissioner. that's actually part of the briefing on the tenderloin strategy on the agenda. i can talk a little bit about it now. >> i just wanted to make sure that i understood the department's piece of that. >> >> it is part of the discussion on the agenda item. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner walker? >> i thought i would get going soon. some of this i was thinking about when you were reporting and also when commissioner yee was asking his questions. a lot of these retail issues, the crimes that, i'm not talking about -- i'm talking about the

robberies and on the streets. a lot of the districts have community partners that are part of three present whether it's alchemy groups or bass -- ambassadors. there was the connection between the special group and our officers that are stationed there. i don't expect an analysis but it would be great to have a presentation about these partners and how they work with the police force and the police officers on duty and what is the status of all these. it's such a complicate set of situation that you are working

on and this is going to be imperative especially as we go into mental health responses. i'm fine with agendaizing a presentation about that. >> thank you, commissioner. we do have that charter and it has been around for a long time. we have a coordinator in the department that coordinates the patrol specials. they are and can be a value and different areas have different needs and in a way that the patrol specials have these needs within their roles. we have not had a report to the commission in quite a while. so it would be good to get that agendaized.

>> that works for me. does that work for you? >> i second. >> just remind us when we get to that part of the agenda. >> okay. >> that's okay. >> i will expand on it by then. >> fantastic. >> commissioner byrne, you are up. >> thank you. i will save my questions. >> thank you. commissioner yanez? >> commissioner oberstone? >> nothing from me, thank you. >> thank you. >> >> can we go to public comment? >> at this time we are accepting public comment regarding the

police chief's report. press star 3 now. caller, you have 2 minutes. public speaker: is that debra walker. i thought you had to join to become a member of the san francisco police department. we have someone good. at least i have one fan. maybe i should get a commendation. so you know, i'm very interested in how many we have today really active working. it should be 2,000, but i think it's close to

1200. i'm saying this because san francisco board of supervisors changed that with the less officers more can be done, and i'm trained by the military and i know that you have to have the right type of soldiers, well trained to obtain the right type of goals. so given the situation, that you do not have so many hands-on deck, but doing a good job. and the commissioners, i see that slowly but surely, you are focusing on the right issues. so that's something good. so i will leave it at that. thank you very much. >> >> mr. decosta, we are

different. as commissioner walker. >> thank you. >> good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> public speaker: hi, it's ms. brown again. good evening. i'm calling again to give the case number of my son. his case no. is 060862038. i am looking for support on the day of his anniversary, media coverage. not just for him but other mothers and fathers who are losing their children to homicides. on grove where my son

was murdered. gunned down with a semi automatic gun and we have those ghost guns that are not even being traced and our children are dying and their cases are not solved. i'm looking at you right now on webcam to see how you are reacting when i'm talking to you. i'm hurting. take off your lawyer hat and police hat and take them off and put yourself in my shoes. i call here every month, i do. but this stuff doesn't get easy. every time it gets close to august 14th, i feel a certain way. maybe you don't care, i think you do sometimes, but i'm looking for support, not just for me but for all of us to make some kind of

impact on these homicides. if you want to talk about the snitch culture and nobody wants to say anything. what do we do about this? how do we do cultural sensitivity or do something about it. how can we do something? use me. i give you all the names of the people that murdered my son. what do we do? i'm putting myself in jeopardy and i don't care. the day he was murdered, i would have stood there and took those bullets for my baby. >> thank you, ms. brown. >> this is the end of public comment. >> thank you. next item >> >> line item 4. >> dpa director's report (discussion) - report on recent dpa activities, and announcements (dpa's report will be limited to a brief description of dpa

activities and announcements. >> thank you. i am ready to give updates. a lot happening tonight on the agenda that i'm super excited about. congratulations and welcome commissioner, new commissioner. we have a full compliment. let's see how long we can keep that going to increase our efficiency for the work that needs to get done. so i'm super excited that commissioner walker is here, and i can't wait to dig in and move our agendas and we'll move our work load into the rest of the summer and year even though i know we are about to go on with the break but we'll continue that. let me just go through the staff, the folks so you know what's going on at dpa.

currently we have opened 358 cases and closed 393 cases and 322 cases still pending and sustained 39 cases, this time last year we sustained 29 cases. we mediated 13 cases so far this year. of the cases whose investigations have taken longer than nine months and continuing, we have 20 cases. at this time last year we had 32 cases. of the 20 cases whose investigations are taking longer than nine months, 16 of those cases are cold cases. we have 12 cases that are pending with the commission, and we have a ton of cases, 94, that are pending decisions from the chief, the chiefs office. in the past week, we received 17

cases from our last meeting. the majority of those cases that came in and the complaints that came in, the allegations that came in are from folks that were making allegations that officers behaved or spoke inappropriately to them, that's 19% of them. the second highest is the same, 19% were for allegations that an officer failed to take required action. the majority of those allegations were for demands for police reports to be taken. if you want the full breakdown of the entire percentages, they are on our website as well as the full breakdown of the district report in terms of where the allegations are coming from. again, this week's top district for reports and allegations was central district. and involve allegations about an

officer failing to investigate and take action for an alleged assault involving a mental health crisis, individuals with mental health crisis. the rest of the breakdown with all the numbers can be found on our website. for our outreach this week, our summer intern program has continued. last week the interns attended the swearing in of commissioner walker and they were super excited to go to city hall and be present there. thank you so much for talking with them and spending time and allowing them to impose on your official city ceremony, but it was a big deal for us and we really appreciate it. also, the interns all spoke with commissioner walker, last week

as part of the speaker series, they spoke to both walker and cj and they did two separate conversations with the meetings all within the past week. a special thank you to walton, the president of the board of supervisors who took the time to meet with the interns and talked about what his experiences are with the public as well. and dpa presented at the community meetings that were held last week as well. we have nothing in closed session for this evening. meetings on the call right now is senior investigator brent. i sent a notion to commissioner

youngblood. people are calling and there is an investigation. there is people available on the call if people have questions or complaints involving the police department or dpa. otherwise they can always contact us directly by going to the website sfdpa or contacting us (415) 241-7711. there is a couple things on the agenda tonight and i know what everyone is most excited about and eager to address and focus on completely and totally, the bedside reading for everyone in this nation. it's the annual report from dpa that is filled with twists and turns and graphics and complicated legal analysis and detailed investigation that we all are proud of here in san francisco.

so i can't wait to get to that. with that, i will conclude my presentation and save my insightful illustrious and up lifting comments for the annual report which will be well received by the nation. all right. that's all i have got for you now until we get to the annual report. but i know you are all really excited. >> i'm on the edge of my seat. >> me too. >> okay, i don't see anyone in the chat. >> they are reading the annual report. >> what if they read it already? >> they are rereading the final part. >> i mentioned that i met with the mediators and i'm going to

ask the commissioner board to sometime in the fall to schedule the dpa program. when i met the mediator, i think it would be great in addition to the presentation from staff if it includes any of the mediator themselves and to provide any insight as well as any participants in the program from the complaint side and officer side who are willing to provide that perspective. i know that is valuable and takes time but i want to flag it now for the fall. >> thank you. i think we are on for september. i think we talked about that being on the agenda for september. >> september 21st. >> thank you. thank you for flagging and i will start working on that no

you to incorporate that in. >> thank you. that's all. >> thank you. can we go to public comment? >> members of the public who would like to make public comment regarding the director's report, press star 3 now. >> good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> hi, this is ms. brown again. i was bringing up that my son was not killed by the police, but the uproar when the police kill people and why can't we have that same uproar about community violence? where is that >> i want to say too, i haven't

heard from my homicide inspector, scott. and accusing the children of being in gangs and they are clearly living in the same neighborhood with a known neighbor and living across the street does not make one a gang member. what do we do about that? there are children including mine for being a gang member and that still bothers me and i want to curse but i'm not going to do it. given the bias and stereotyping of young african american men and discrimination practices in the justice system. what do we do

about that? you hear me and maybe i'm a little upset today and yes i am because i am feeling some type of way and i come here and sit in front of you, i will come there and sit and say the same thing. what if my son was a little white boy with blond hair and blue eyes? would i be going through this? i'm not prejudice, but if i had money, would i be going through this? all i can do is plead to you guys about solving these unsolved homicides. i want some closure. i'm not using medication. this is the raw me. and i come to you asking for justice for our children, for my son, aubrey. he existed. a little boy shot down for saving

someone else's life. >> thank you, ms. brown. that is the end of public comment. >> chief, can you have the inspector follow up with ms. brown. she says she's called several times and hasn't gotten a response. can you please make sure the inspector calls her back so she doesn't have to add this to the list of things she has to deal with? >> yes, commissioner. i think she has been told this that thor thor -- inspector is off and another one called her. >> thank you. >> next item. >> one item before we continue,

the line item 6 regarding the strategies of recruitment of women will be rescheduled. >> commission reports (discussion) (commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future commission meeting.) - commission president's report - commissioners' reports - commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings (action) this is where we give that report. >> sorry i jumped the gun. as i was preparing to come here and also some of the work that i have done in the past few years

have really sort of encouraged me to look at the partnerships that we have with community groups specifically there is the alchemy group, different ambassador groups and introduced to the concept of patrol specials. so much of each of the policing seems to be really district defined and there are very different issues in every district. so as i was walking through some of these neighborhoods and introduced to some of the community groups, and not just those that i mentioned, but those tenet groups and the homeless outreach groups. part of where the failing that i saw in dealing with landlord and tenant issues is really making sure the right contact was made

for the initial engagement, that we actually were able to discuss sort of how to aim some things so it can be resolved. and so the presentation i would love to see is just how we, the police department, are partnering with these groups to make sure we are delivering everything effectively, the service, the response, aiming folks in the right direction to get the help they need. you know, and this sort of, the issue of arresting people for paraphernalia. the throwing your hand up and not knowing who to call if it's a mental health issue. all of this requires a lot of outreach and it seems it's what the city is doing with the service sector as well. if we can just sort of discuss

that, get a sense of how you guys are partnering in communicating and prioritizing and identifying who can do what, i think it's obviously it's not a soft situation. it would be great to start hearing about that. maybe you discussed it more but i think there is so many balls rolling right now and would be great to be sure we are effectively engaged in that. i would say helping coordinate it. that's one thing and there was one other thing. i mean this could also be very effective around the 11 street issue. i'm sure that your officers are not, don't have time on the weekend nights to walk around these

neighborhoods, but sometimes that's all it takes to clear out these bike lanes because there is so much potential if there is someone blocking the street and they are partying and not one person is paying attention. i don't know who is doing it on the south of market area. but maybe there is a gap and maybe we can make a recommendation to the supervisors. i know they are the ones dealing with it in their own district. i think that's it for now. >> great. we can definitely agendaize that. >> commissioner yanez. >> thank you, president.

welcome commissioner walker. i would like to talk about agendaizing this item. i don't know whether it can be added to the september presentation dealing with policing and see it as an opportunity to expand what that collaboration can look like. obviously we are trying to improve relations through all communities and that's collaboration. i support that direction. having been in the treatment field before, i want to comment on some of the attention that those cases that were charged with paraphernalia possession, kind of undermine our harm reduction approach to treatment in san francisco, and last i heard, there hasn't necessarily been an increase for funding for treatment in jail. really as of last week i had

mentioned my concern was an increase in persecuting drug use and where our limited resources. our whole first couple of months this year, there was concern about not enough officers and we are using our officers to pursue simple possession. it really does go counter with what our city has oftentimes nationally and historically which continue to promote which is treatment as opposed to incarceration because we know that is not a solution. chief, i would really like to know and i know you are going to talk bit in the presentation of the tenderloin, but outside of the tenderloin, was there a policy shift at the leadership level in the police department that directed officers to pursue, arrest for simple

paraphernalia possession? >> commissioner, i would like to answer that request when i present because you will get the answer in context. >> i'm going to ask to table that, commissioner yanez to the presentation so we don't get too off topic. >> got it. i do want to also agendaize an item for discussion. i know you were able to increase the police budget for the coming year, and as the budget was initially presented to the commission, it looked very different and there were a lot of questions about how the proposed budget was going to be utilizing. it would be great to get an idea of what the proposal for the increase in budget will look like as far as the areas of training,

recruitment. i think it would be good for this body to understand the direction that the department is going to be taking especially when there are shifts in direction with whether it's policy or tactics. so i would love to have that agendaized for some future meeting, president, and that will be my report for today. >> thank you, commissioner. >> commissioner benedicto? >> thank you very much. i wanted to provide an update about my commissioner report from last week from the advocate groups. with materials that will be posted to the commission website with the details, but as i noted last week, there will be outreach at several targeted

existing community events starting with national night out august 2nd and continuing throughout august with outreach to various community organizations. additionally, we have confirmed that on september 6th, there will be a listening session town hall at the library at 5:30 p.m. and 27th at the bayview house and the third one at the commission to be announced. additionally we have started the working group process for those who want to roll up their sleeves and get with the nitty gritty on the policy side and draft policy. so the first working group meeting will take place on tuesday august 2nd, at 11:30, at

the public safety building at police headquarters. the members of the public or stakeholders are interested can email at will be posted at this commission website in advance of the meeting. we are looking forward to continuing to move this very important policy closer to final passage. that's all for me. >> thank you, commissioner benedicto. to remind the public, if you have comments, please go to the commission website. the information that commissioner benedicto announced is going to be there. there is also an email to submit to make sure that you have updated information. >> commissioner yee?

>> thank you madam president. i want to talk about commissioner walker's patrol and whether the chief can talk about during the presentation on the next go around if possible on the community policing. also, i wanted to agendaize that is probably the gto 6.14, this is the tactic psychological evaluation for adults being arrested, and also for psychological evaluation 7.02. the reason i'm saying it is because i called one of the victims that was reached out to and had some mental issues

attacked his wife. she had to run across pine street for her life because he swung a pipe at her. so that person was never charged, and the person disappeared pretty much. so i'm just wondering if we can follow up on that. i myself walking down the street ran into one and just like, woah. we are having this issue out there and i want to know what the procedure for the police and also like commissioner walker said, get the right people out there. we are supposed to have street crisis response team out there. maybe there is a number we can put out there. let the community know if we have these type of issues to call for proper service to help these people in need.

that's all i have. thank you, madam chair. >> thank you, commissioner yee. commissioner byrne? >> thank you. i have tentatively an arranged to go out with a unit on the tenderloin friday night. i have to sign a release now even though i'm an employee. it was new to me. but going out. and on that september meeting about police presence. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner max carter-oberstone. >> i want to give a shout out to commissioner walker. it was a

very nice ceremony and commissioner walker brought together a lot of different people from diverse communities, from the artist community to folks that she met from the time on the building commission to many others, and her sister was there and gave some heartfelt words. it was really nice and want to say welcome. and to director's report, i also did chat with the dpa interns and i can vouch for the characterization and they were very excited and eager to be there. that was really nice. >> thank you. >> in fact, i think the mayor was trying to hide them away. >> she was and trying to steal

them and didn't want to you feel like you didn't get the glory. they are excited when the city government see them and hear them. >> director henderson, let's be clear, those are the responses. >> i'm clear and they make it very clear. i'm just here to pay the bills and keep the lights on. >> as long as you know your lane. [ laughter ] >> all right. sergeant, can we go to public comment, please? >> at this time the public comment is open for the line item on the commission reports. >> good evening, caller. you have two minutes. public speaker: okay, i see that everybody is in a good mood, and i think when you are

talking about community policing, you really have to define what all the police officers can do with the 1200, instead of 2,000. and we talk about the issues that we have on the street, behavioral issues that the health department should take a real lead. the health department, really. the police in that road all the time when sometime ago the police are ready made a statement, very strong statement, and pointed out to real policing that they should

be doing. and we have all the teams, the silver and the gold team and i don't know what other team. some response teams. we have that even with our fire department. we have to do a needs assessment on all these teams. and we have to fine tune the police department. they do real policing. many, all of them have some training, but when it comes to mental issues and we get all of these people on the street screaming and shouting, going in and tearing the place apart. >> thank you, caller. >> good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> public speaker: yes, hi. this

is ms. brown again. we are talking about community policing, but i was just going back to again, i have not heard from my investigator. if he's going to be out on injury, you should have someone else assigned to give me a call and let me know something. that's the decent thing that you can do, otherwise i wouldn't be complaining. don't assume i know. i didn't know he was out. if he was going to be out for a long time, someone should have called me and assigned an investigator to my case instead of me coming on here complaining about what i'm complaining about. again, i have a letter from chase boudin when he was investigating my son and wrote me a letter too. what do we do about stigmatizing our children

as gang members. when i want to work with the police, the credit is going to them and not my work. chief said that i helped delegate this stuff, but i don't see anything coming to me, and when i want to do the other thing and getting them at other places, i'm scared to do this because i'm doing the work and not getting credit for it. how can you do that without me. i'm going to continue to do that as much as i can call in. i wish you guys were open so i can come down there to look at your faces so you can see mine. new people are coming in on the board. this lady here now, the new debra

walker. do you know who i am? i call here every week. i need you to know me also. >> thank you, ms. brown. >> caller, you have two minutes. public speaker: hello, good evening. my name is david calderon, i have called about my mother, 921547223. my message is for the commission. i have personally gone through an investigation which was closed because it was not documented as to what the nature of my complaint was. as of june 2022, lieutenant sanders indicated to me that my mother's case was going to be reopened and all of a sudden he changed his mind. the issue i'm having is i'm getting conflicting information

from the report from your office as well as from lieutenant sanders. my request is, if we can please agendaize my case as well as ms. brown's case. because you can see it's a very difficult process. but i think with your assistance, we might be able to do something. thank you very much for your time. >> director henderson, can you follow up on that, please? >> my staff is in regular contact with him. the misunderstanding has been clarified, but i will have my staff reach out to him again. >> actually matter has not been clarified, mr. henderson and that's why i'm calling this meeting respectfully. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that's the end of public comment. >> thank you, next item, please.

>> status update on chapter 19b "surveillance technology legislation" (discussion & possible action) chief scott. >> thank you, i'm going to do a quick introduction and then we'll go into detail about the policy, the ordinance process and where we are and what we are doing. >> the goal of this proposed policy ordinance is to codify, affirm, clarify our use of privately owned video surveillance technology. we believe that the constitutional use of third party, we are talking about third party surveillance camera technology, we believe that is a better tool to better address crime and intervene when crimes are being committed. we are working with the mayor's office, board of supervisors, the city attorney's office have met with advocacy groups to help develop an ordinance that both addresses the public safety concerns of our city while also

preserving every individual's right to privacy. this has to be done constitutionally. i know there have been a lot of in the public space about this recently but this process has been on going for quite some time. with this, i would like to turn this over to the special assistant who is our project manager on this particular, all of the ordinances as a matter of fact, and let her explain where we are and what this process is for the police department. >> thank you. >> thank you, chief. welcome. >> thank you so much. >> well, i know the chief has started talking specifically about our non-entity surveillance camera policy ordinance now. but i'm going to take a step back to talk about what it does. it is an admin code that went into effect in july of 2019. it does five major

things. one is define what it is to all departments, two, the use of this at the department, three, and any inventory and what they had before b 19 went into effect and pass the report to the committee and information technology, and develop the surveillance body with each department. and recommend to the board of supervisors to adopt, not adopt, adopt with amendments and modifications without an ordinance. and the policy requires the department to use,

and 19b, requires each department to submit actual reports to the board of supervisors to coincide with the approved surveillance technology. the legislative process created the privacy board and they developed it. it has about seven members total and one member of the public and reports to coit and will hear it. the issues about sfpd so far, our inventory can be found on our public website as well as coit public website. we have 43. only two have made it through the completed process. have made it through the ordinance process. typically the city

administrator will present a full packet to the board of supervisors to be heard to include every single city department that has made it that far to be considered by rule. we have two that have completed this process. it's pretty long. i do want to note if the ftp and fir, the impact report if it has -- implication if we are adopting this technology and by the police commission, we are very careful not to include it in the ddo. if the police commission ever decides to update the verbiage in the dgo, we have to go back to this process to revise the ftp and

the ordinance. we are very careful to refer the ddo members and what might govern our activity. it's a lengthy process, but we are going for it. i will bring it's back to what the chief was talking about. currently with the rules committee is the non-city entity, one of the non-city entities surveillance camera fpt and this is related to any private entity individual in san francisco that may share video surveillance footage with the department. we do not have a financial relationship with any of these entities. we have the privacy surveillance advisory board on march 25th, march 31st, and we met with coit on april 1st and april 21st. and moved forward to the board of

supervisors with recommendations from coit to adopt, and they heard it july 11th and july 18th. this is the first time that this is presented to rules as an entity to the administrators office. the administrators office brings policies forward. we are going again in front of rules the following misunderstand july 25th at 10:00. this is the non-entity surveillance camera ftp which will govern how we would be able to request footage from an entity in san francisco. we believe pretty much that every block in san francisco has a surveillance camera or surveillance camera system including individuals who may have captured a home invasion or robbery outside of their home. we want to clarify how we can go

ask them for that footage and use the footage for our investigative purposes. i can get into more detail, but happy to take questions. i just wanted to give you a brief update and not get into too many details. i'm available for questions about the process itself. >> you indicated the five areas of the admin code. where on the police department website, or is it posted on the police website where they are supposed to inventory prior to this effect. >> correct. it's under your sfpd and the policies. there is the bulletin and other policy items and there should be a 19b policy

page. that lists our entire inventory as well as information about the admin, the 19b process. >> whats the inventory prior to this code being enacted and what is the inventory now? >> we have about 43 items. i have the page up now. we have some analysis software, robotics. earlier, the chief talked about the eod, the bombs, ied's and surveillance cameras, and body worn camera s, and surveillance technology, more software, some dna sequencers, a lot of

cameras, fiber scope cameras and this drone detection system we use to help where we assist with detecting any drones in the area. we have to say that we did that and did it before and we have a policy put in coit for consideration. >> can you explain who is currently surveilling or watching these surveillance cameras? >> if you are speaking about who is surveiling the cameras, no one. it's by request. we don't have a specific location. it's

specifically case by case. what we are proposing if there is an event, large scale event or we have intelligence that something is going to happen or violent counter protesters, we can make a request through our own internal process and make it active for a specific amount of time and that is provided for that ability. there is no ability to access now. it depends on the unit in charge of the event or the investigation that is happening. >> i guess my question is will any police officer from the department be able to request access to this private security. if this officer in the tenderloin, who would they, is it a centralized unit in the department they have to go through or is it fair game? >> that's a great question. the way we are proposing it. we

are talking about the temporary live monitoring in this case. we have in our policy, we've limited it to a police officer q 4, a 380 inspector, all of them must get captain approval before they can actually make the request to the non-city entity. it's not a specific unit in charge, it would be depending on the situation whether it's a special event. it might be homeland security, fid, it might be at the station level or the investigations level. they must get a captain level rank approval before issuing the request to the non-entity. >> i have a couple of concerns.

one of my concerns is that if this proposal would be allowed to share with the federal government agency asking to surveil people. what are the immigration consequences going to be if they are allowed to share this with the federal government? >> thank you. we have this special prohibition in the policy as the city is holding to 12a and 12 i and we have a ddo about immigration enforcement. we are prohibited from it and it's noted in the policy and this would not be recorded. if a crime actually happens, if there is a violation, we would go back to the entity and ask for the specific portion of the video footage that relates to that particular crime, but we have prohibitions about

immigration enforcement as listed in the policy itself. >> maybe you can list the criteria that is going to be used for the officer's ability to request this footage and surveil people in real time because my concern is the racial disparity it is going to cause. we already have significant racial disparities in this city particularly with black people and we have not been able to solve the disparity that exist with respect to these areas and then we are going to add another one. that is my concern and i want to know what solutions or proposals you have that are going to address it. it doesn't make sense to add one more tool when we can't even figure out why these racial disparities exist in all the other areas. >> sure. i will refer to the chief but i will read one prohibition that

we have indicated in the policy is that we are not using surveillance to surveil any groups of people based on race. and we are also not identifying any individuals or confirming racial or ethnic origin. we have specific prohibitions in place to make sure that we are again not focusing on any one racial group, no gender, no religion nor sexual orientation. that is one prohibition we are trying to use as a guardrail. i'm going to refer to the chief again. i want to say clearly that we are trying for focus on gathering historical information and temporary live monitoring. >> thank you. >> there is a yearly reporting required as it reads right now.

we are working with the rules committee and the board of supervisors to address the issues as much as we can. as it stands right now, i think it says we are required to submit annual reports on the impact of these policies, how they are being used with the effectiveness and who they are being used on, those types of things as captured. there is that ability and monitoring component there. >> i'm sorry, chief, did you say those reports have already been done or is that the plan? >> as it stands right now, the policy is not done yet. >> the police commission has not created a policy. it's the ordinance that you are speaking to. >> it's the ordinance and it's

not finalized yet. as it stands right now that was in the draft in terms of the reporting requirements. by the time this is all said and done, it would be very public that we'll report on as well on what that end up looking like. that's what you heard on the disparity issues. this is really about crime issue and responding to the needs of the city where crime is occurring, and it's with different types of issues in the community. so the reporting piece, i think will help address that and at least get us to the point where we at least understand once whatever this ends up being will understand who ends up being impacted by this to what degree and can decide what needs to be done on that.

>> we have carved in an audit function that tracks the outcome of this footage and live monitoring to see annually what was the outcome. did it actually result in an arrest, did it result in something that actually deters crime. we are going to check that annually as well. >> right, but that annual report doesn't do much for it because it will be similar to the 96a report where we see the disparities. i think there needs to be more preventative measures in place before we have to wait for them to tell us that the racial disparity exist. >> chief, i need to know from you, how do you think surveilling people in real time is going to deter crime and the balance that's needed with protecting people's civil

liberties and civil rights on being monitored and the trust issues with the police department in the past. how are you going to deal with that? >> there are several questions. with the footage being acknowledged and with the permission of the owner, it really speaks to our ability to respond quicker, to respond more efficiently. we just had an incident last weekend or weekend prior, fourth of july, couple weeks ago. where for an extended period of time, we had a number of felonies being committed with a number of people. there were cameras all over that location that we did not have the ability to access. we are talking about major property damage, we are

talking about people that ended up getting injured because of this melee. those are the situations where if you have the use of this technology you do have the ability to respond more efficiently. the commissioner talked to us about how many people we arrest or how many crimes we clear, these are the things that aid in those issues. yes, they do have an impact and i have seen it and other cities have done that. it's a deterrence. there is a deceit -- deterrence. people think twice about what they are about to do. it does have a

deterrence effect. in sort of a historical footage, under the current camera ordinance. the number of crimes and solved crimes. as a matter of fact we did look at crimes that were solved from the ones that weren't solved and one were the use of cameras and surveillance footage that helped us solve those crimes. so it does make a difference. at the end of the day, all that matters, we will have to try to do what is there to solve crimes. i definitely understand the disparity we are living with now, but we want to solve crimes more efficiently and this technology is out there and there is definitely a value to

being able to tap into those technologies. >> i have a question and i will turn it over to my colleagues and one thing you said and i don't understand it. if you say we are going to solve crime in real time by real officers, how are they going to know it's happening without being an alerted and notifying the department, and if that is the case, what is the case of seeing it real time than a 911 call and the officer is deployed there in minutes. that's my first question and the second question is that you said the use of cameras is used to solve crimes, there is a monitoring live versus the cameras being there recording. if it's a homicides,

2 homicide happens, you have that recording and able to get that after the fact. i don't see how you would justify the ability of the police department to be able to surveil people 24 hours a day. that was my question. >> we are not surveiling people 24 hours a day. if there is a crime, this policy is descriptive. if approved, this ordinance would give us more ability than we currently have but it's still very restrictive. it doesn't give us blanketed authority as it is written right now to look at cameras anytime whenever we want. there is an approval process that has to be based on facts and evidence to indicate criminal activity is occurring.

we are going to have a presentation on narcotics in a minute and there is cameras all over the tenderloin. those cameras can be used if we had a policy in place to actually see via surveillance cameras that a drug dealing is happening, the dealing of fentanyl happening in our city more efficiently. what is going on now in the tenderloin, you go right now in the areas of the tenderloin and you see 20-30 people on the corner and not all are dealing and when you have people in concert like that, it's hard to see who is dealing. it's hard to do it in uniform because they are not going to do it in front of you, but when we go away, that dealing continues. this is where the use of technology, to

solve crime, you can be much more effective in terms of an abating that issue. that is one example. the example i gave you on the fourth of july, that was an extended incident. with the number of people and number of resources and officers that it took to really get that situation under control, that was an extended incident. if we had the ability to see the people who were committing the crime, we probably would have had a better outcome and the number of people who were apprehended. as it stands, we are now searching through historical footage to try to identify people. if we had the ability to do that then, you can say, hey, the person in the orange shirt just lit a building on fire, or the person did whatever they are doing, and you can address that then. much more efficient way because in these situations like i'm just describing, we can even get

in there without having officers do it faithfully, we are able to rally assemble officers and weren't able to get in there until we can approach it. in those situations, the cameras are used effectively because we are doing it as described. we are trying to identify people that if we had the use of those cameras real time, we probably would have been able to capture some of them that evening. side shows are another example. some of the locations where there are side shows, there are surveillance cameras there and those are events and cause harm and identifying the vehicle. you put that information out. and shows the way we end up having

to deploy to them, you end up having a significant number of officers and oftentimes you are waiting on that. if you are watching this, you know who the players are and have a better way to catch them and identifying them. if you are putting it out on the police radio and you already have that information. these are available technologies that can be used effectively. i want to reiterate, we are not asking for any policy to allow us just to watch people in discriminately or watching people who weren't committing criminal activity. >> i think you have to chief because you still didn't answer the question. how do you know these incidents are happening unless you are watching them live? unless you are watching the surveillance right there and it

happened right then and there, it would be okay, i can deploy other officers. if you are not watching, it's the same set up as the 911 caller to the department to report the incident. >> that is not exactly correct, commissioner. this is case by case scenario. like in the looting, we did receive looting back in november. yes, you don't know when to make the request until that type of incident is happening. when that happened, we were getting calls with people who had cameras saying do you want access and we said no, we can't because we are prohibited. that would have been helpful to call out to see who the people were. we were able to catch a few of them, but we could have been more successful. the other scenario that you laid

out, pick a location where you are having criminal activity everyday, fetanyl dealers, you name a corner. the community complaints, the number of community complain. we made historic arrest there time and time again. if we have that number of community concern and we have those types of community calls to action, the policy as written, the ordinance would allow us to put in the request based on facts, data, evidence, and then deal with that issue by the use of this technology. in that case, yes. and we will watch that corner to see who the dealers are. but i think to your question, there are instances where the crime is occurring when the access is asked for and some of these

incidents are prolonged. they are not just, if it's a robbery that takes a minute to happen or two minutes to happen, we are not going to ask in that situation, because it's useless. but if it's a prolonged incident like the looting that we saw in november and july 4th and a number of these incidents where they are prolonged, that gives us time to make the request through a captain's approval and get access to the cameras while these things are happening. >> okay, i will turn it to my other commissioners. commissioner yanez? >> thank you, vice-president. the way this is written, this is due to circumstances and concerns and released to active misdemeanor and felony conviction. very broadly written, very right for abuse. i agree with vice-president that

the language is overly broad. if i would ask for you to clarify. when it says that any city entity or individual through consent, subpoena, search warrant or other court order, does that word consent, is that approval for an officer to authorize a search warrant or livestream access for a misdemeanor of investigation? >> can you clarify your question? you mentioned the consent. the consent is the owner of the camera. it has to be a consent. as the ordinance

is written now. in any situation, there has to be consent. and access to surveillance technology. after that, then a search warrant or some other form of legal means to actually access that which is what is necessary. so we wouldn't be able to access that without the consent of the owner or the person in control of that technology. >> as far as authorizing a police officer to request consent from a business entity with a camera, all that would require as you are saying is a captain reviewing and authorizing that police officer to go to this entity to request that footage? >> that's correct. the captain would have to authorize that. >> even for misdemeanor? >> for misdemeanors as well. >> that is one of the challenges and very broad in considering that there is no system for determining what types of

misdemeanors may apply here or may be covered with this consent or with this authorization process. i would encourage more language to limit the scope of at least in the area of misdemeanors to be requesting this because the concern is, are we going to be live monitoring everybody who is charged or a misdemeanor or on parole. that is one challenge. and in terms of other counties and jurisdictions, just putting up a sign saying that we are live recording may be a deterrent in and of itself. i see the value of this technology and improving outcomes, but the way the notification is written here means the department is going to rely on the vendors themselves to notify the public regarding technology, operation

at the site through signage in public areas. and the concern there is we already know that there is a power imbalance when police officers are may be interfacing, interacting with a member of the public that may not know that they have the light to not consent to the release of the video footage. i ran an organization where we once opened up a shop on mission, and because there were cameras there, we had an officer everyday coming in forcefully requesting video. fortunately we trained our front desk staff. we were a hippa compliant organization and knew not to release information. my concern is the public at large as far as organizations, vendors, small businesses may not always be aware of this. what is the plan if this policy is approved to

inform the public in general that they have the right not to necessarily release the information, and is there support for them to maybe cover the signage or to inform the public in a different way rather than relying on them to cover that cost? >> yes, that's a really good question and i'm glad you asked it. the plan for that is, currently we have if an officer asks to search the car or not in our case your car but your house and they don't have a warrant, they can ask for consent. that's a form that an officer is required to use, and on that form, there is basically where this is not compelled and people

are allowed to say no. so that type of language is what we are planning if whatever is approved. if they give us authority to do so is to piggy back on that form with the consent to allow us to access video surveillance technology. that is very necessary and i understand your point and people might say no. even to this day, under the current historical situation, some people say no. after the crime has been committed we have to get a search warrant which is what we do. so this would be the same as that. people have a right to say no. it will be in writing and the language of the person to make sure that there is no

communication to ask in that process and a very good question and something to ask if this is approved or whatever version of this that might be approved. >> thank you. that's reassuring. the last one is on the training, if there is a plan to roll this out if it is approved, and how will we ensure that everybody has been trained before going out into the field and requesting authorization to obtain this information. >> absolutely, commissioner. they have to be trained to go

along with this. grant it, this policy, this ordinance, absolutely, there would be, there has to be training in place for not only the people that might seek approval, but the people that might give approval, the captains and above as well. as these ordinances are approved, we have had training on them and at the beginning of this process. i know it's three years old this year. but there is a lot of that policy and this ordinance that we have to get it done through this process. the board of supervisors only approved a few so far. there is training that goes along with that. >> thank you. >> i think there was another

question. >> once the ordinance is adopted, the department has to determine the best way to communicate that with the members. it might end up in a new unit order, it might end up in a dm, in some cases, it might end up in a general order. but in any case, they have to work with the academy to determine the best way to create a program to coincide with whatever the directive is. whenever there is an ordinance, it impacts the department directives. we are waiting to see how it rolls out. we don't know. ultimately it is up to rules and eventually the board of supervisors. they all get a bite of it. whatever ends up and then end up with the academy. and secondly with the form sfpd form

and we are waiting to see how the ordinance plays out. but it is our intention to update that with the specific language that let's the individual and the entity know that they have the right of refusal and they have a right to say no. we don't want to pressure anybody to provide access to their system. it's a request based system. it's theirs. we have no way of accessing it unless they give it to us. in many stores in the city have sweeping policies to say no when we request. so, we are very familiar with that process.

commissioner yanez? >> no questions. >> thank you. commissioner benedicto? >> thank you. when you mentioned to the commission about having the authority to request. can you mention the department that have that authority? >> offhand, no. >> the majority of the officers q 2 through q 4. >> okay, i know in the current draft ordinance that it's quite broadly worded. this would require neither probable cause

and reasonable facts. >> we have this listed as reasonable belief based on the the reason for the request. >> what type is based on that for the authority to make that request. >> to grant it. >> if the request is unreasonably granted? >> first of all there is a review process and in talking to some of the advocacy groups,

there is a recommendations recommendation made as far as enhancement of that review process. again, this is still in process. it still has not been -- i don't know what's going to be approved by the rules committee and members of the rules committee are working on this as well. but, the thought and the idea is there is a review process to be able to go back and audit these requests. what was granted, idea it granted and what were the fact and the outcomes and did they result in an arrest or convictions of what the case may be and if it's an open air drug use and was that abated. so those types of things have been suggested. i don't know what that ends up looking like, but those things are addressed. and

there are policies across the country that are reviewing this as well in terms of reporting of these. the city that has similar type of policies. i don't know what that's going to look like but those are some of the thoughts on the table right now. >> thank you, when you discussed the audit process, the audit functions of the draft policy, sometimes the audit gets thrown around as sort of a non-compatibility, what is the audit process going to be run by -- by the department, what was the audit process. >> well, there needs to be an internal audit process because we need to know what's going on as the managers of this department and with this focus and attention.

director henderson, has the ability to audit those types of things as well within the department. and our ability to direct an audit. at the end of the day, the board of supervisors also will keep an interest in this. so there is yearly reports that are understanding and respecting what commissioner said, but the whole reason for this and one of the key topics of what everybody is talking about no matter what side of the issue you are on, there has to be oversight to these cameras. that's the spirit of what we are trying to develop to have the ability to do just that. >> if it's helpful, the surveillance policies is cited in the audit and also has the ifpp's best practices as well. the other thing i want to be sure we are talking about as we are alluding to auditing that

it's a very finite term and if it is going to be an audit, because most of the time the people are talking about a report. if there is going to be an audit, there are standards specifically that is always a benefit to all the factors that we are talking about. i hope we are talking about the same thing. i just want to jump in and jump out. >> >> in answering to the specific questions and the live monitoring of the act. at the conclusion of the monitoring period requesting this afterwards, correct? >> >> right now, we are using our current practice is to ask for footage that is an hour before the incident and hour after the incident depending on how long the incident was and asking for

historical footage that unfolded during the live monitoring. we don't ask necessarily for 24 hours of monitoring the footage. if something unfolded at 12:00, we would want to know specifically what that incident was and go back to that historical footage and go back to that related incident. >> i would go back to -- to where this might have been used. i appreciate the situation where there is a -- and you have something. but in the example of a fentanyl dealing, if there is

an active corner and believe that it is regularly seen there, could he see live monitoring of that to see if there is absent a call for service, tips, that would be to observe that corner and might be something that you need. can you talk about the distinction of the examples because it seems quite different to me. >> that's a really good question. under the current writing of the policy, a hunch is not, it would not, should not be approved. >> if the officer works the community, and they say, hey, i'm going to give you a hypothetical. we have problems at 7th and mission. there may be 15 arrest on that corner in the last month. i'm getting community complaints that this is on going night and day. there

is some of this on my next presentation. that's more than a hunch. there is evidence there that that activity is occurring. the officer goes and see's and i have got 25 people and i know some of them because i have arrested them before for drug dealing. we are not interested in hunches. we are interested in community driven complaints, community driven information from community members on these types of issues particularly when it comes to the drug dealing, and with the officers knowledge about what's going on by observation and by arrest, those types of things. you asked the question about what the standard is, that is the type of our typical information we are asking about. if i say i think it's happening,

that's not going to cut it. >> sure. i guess what i mean is it isn't the case under this draft ordinance that a specific incident be it is happening, based on my experience, this is a high traffic area. without the specific? >> yes, sir. also we are talking about drug dealing right now. there are times when we have received information about something that is about to happen. we are talking from shootings to robberies or whatever. if that information is credible, if that information is based on incredible -- credible and reliable information, that

captain is likely to ask to see that information. we need to be able to use the information on something credible. we are not talking about something that we can't say is credible because we don't understand what the source is. but there are times when we get the credible information and they tell us things might happen and we have to report that and there are times where we have thwarted a situation. >> okay. if it doesn't have any requirements on how long it is or on our type of data or there is that period. >> all of the footage that we

grab is considered evidence. so it is booked in as evidence and put into an investigative file. if there is any retention related to evidence essentially how we retain evidence, but there is no, not having large amounts of footage of nothing happening. it's in an intelligence file. it's a criminal investigation. >> if you request two hours of our camera footage and an officer determines that it's 45 minutes, does the full two hours get booked in? >> the full two hours goes into evidence. whatever we pull will go into the evidence file. >> an example, we have someone who was accused of a crime. they were accused of committing a murder on second and whatever

cross street at this particular time, we might pull footage of that time, say an hour of that time on that corner and if a person was not on that corner and would still be considered evidence to prove that that person wasn't particularly on that corner or part of that crime. so even though a crime hasn't folded, we have a tip that that person was there, someone was accusing a particular person of being there because it's attached to an incident and it approves that that person wasn't there is we would still keep that in the intelligence file. >> okay. another policy question, for victims of immigration or reproductive rights, that is

overruled by federal law. if your documents are subject to subpoena despite the ordinance, correct? >> the federal government, they can subpoena that footage. if i understand your question, yes, they can subpoena that footage anyway, yes, get a court order for that footage. as it relates to our city ordinance, we can't interfere with the federal government and interfering them from doing their job. that will not change. but in terms of using this for the purpose of immigration or the other issue that has come up because of supreme court decision on the roe versus wade

could be used as a means for some out of state agency to get that type of information so they can prosecute a person coming to california to get reproductive care. there is language in the current draft that that is strictly prohibited. based on if we were getting from the public hearing, that is strictly prohibited. >> yes, that is the common question and the civil a little bit # -- liberties concern and if it is from the federal government and centralized to subpoena individuals. that is the concern there. >> and if i can just add in that

situation with reproductive care, unless there is some type of crime occurring that has nothing to do with reproductive care, we wouldn't have any reason or right to be granting an approval of that in the first place. so we are going to make sure those safe guards are in place. >> sure. there are a lot of reproductive healthcare providers that it would have, if there was an assault in front of a clinic, that would get people in front of a clinic and centralized for that subpoena. my last question and i really do appreciate you providing this information. this is very helpful to secure this policy. you mentioned there's a copy to

the board? >> there is a copy to the board and the police commission. >> thank you. that's all the questions i have for now. >> thank you. commissioner benedicto? >> i actually had a question about an award. which is not long ago this commission heard a presentation on dpa's audit around surveillance and 1st amendment activity. it strikes me obviously that that policy that the department is pursuing now before the board has amendment implications because it will be used in part to monitor protest and other 1st amendment activities.

my question is what is the status of ego right now because a lot of the recommendation that were made in the audit, it seems like those would bear on the current policies and if the policies were up-to-date for standard surveillance. >> i would say in response to that, a couple of things. one, that calls back into question the accountability matrix to make sure that those recommendations are being followed up on. again, that is part of the problem. we constantly reinvent the wheel and process the data and based on information over and over. also second, i think all of my audits need to win an award because they are all so superb

and excellent so we don't have to repeat the work, and what is related to our conversation in terms of how the department uses and stores the information. i don't want to walk backward because that work has already been done and the work speaks for itself. but the solutions and recommendations from those previous reports also speak to guidelines that could be limiting or beneficial to the conversation that we are having now in terms of the surveillance cameras and that use of evidence as well. all roads lead to improvement for both reform and accountability in my opinion. i just want to respond to what you are saying.

>> thank you, director henderson. chief scott, do you have that? >> i don't, but i can get it for you, commissioner. at the end of this meeting, as a matter of fact. >> okay, thank you. that's all from me. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner yee, commissioner byrne? commissioner walker, anything? >> i'm listening and a lot of my questions have already been asked and i want to weigh in for having just gone through our pride parade and sorry about that. just days after there were 4 attacks on lgbt folks and were

being attacked. there is a part of me that understand that surveillance can help but to me is who authorizes it and there are the questions that the concern for me is even as it's being used to protect the right to be there celebrating in our 1st amendment rights, there are people who would use that footage against us. and whether it's lgbtqia or someone getting an abortion or folks who have immigration issues, i think that having a clear sense of what's being taken for what purpose and what's happening to the information is really vital. i

don't know. as i was looking at this, i see the value in it and i want to support it but there needs to be more definition in all of these things. it's opening the door that is very hard to close. so, making sure things are used specifically and are shared is a vital thing here. i think that more frequent reporting than once a year is really important. i feel like live surveillance is a big deal, and maybe that requires more of weekly or an immediate reporting so that somebody else is looking at it and making sure that the right steps are being taken. have people talked about that and reporting, because there is a difference in historical

footage which we can get in other ways now, i think. and the live watching of video. and i actually see a benefit in it. i live in the mission. there is constantly large groups of folks who are doing activities that actually hurt property and create havoc and they last a long time. there is a time when somebody can make the complaint and you can respond, but what happens next is really crucial. so just curious if there is more discussion about a reporting that is done more immediately especially on live surveillance type situations. >> i can answer your question. on page 8, we specifically carve

out a reporting section for quarterly reporting to the commission and to the board. so specifically it's quarterly report talking, live monitoring for the request and the reporting shall commence 60 days for the first quarter following adoption and every quarter thereafter. that's proposed in the policy and should not wait until an annual report and we would like to do a quarterly report to the commission and it's up to the commission to have that heard at a public hearing. >> got it. >> in response to what you are saying, commissioner, sorry to jump in, in terms of the more frequent reporting and in reference to the dgo stuff because i do think that is part of the answer. that ddo 8.10 that you were referencing, i can't remember who mentioned that issue, it was

put off for years in the direction that we were given that we were waiting for dpa to finish the audit. we have been done for a very long time now. one of the things we can do is call for the start of the working group now because the dgo can conflict with the proposed ordinance. that is one of the ways to move this forward and address and capture some of the evidence based and reliable and objective information that was created from the audit. i just wanted to before we drift too far away. >> i think that's a great idea. i recommend starting a working group of that. >> love it. i want to connect the dots. >> yes, it gives us an avenue to address it. >> thank you. that's it. >> thank you. is there any public comment?

>> at this time the public is welcome to make public comment regarding line item 7. press star 3 now. public speaker: thank you. i did call the rules committee monday. i understand there is a benefit to the police department on using live surveillance, but we are troubled by the implications for civil liberties. the chief mentioned two things on monday that i would like to mention this evening. one is one of the reasons that surveillance would be helpful to the department because they are under staffed and i know it takes a number of 3 or 4 officers to conduct a

bust operations in the tenderloin and i know this would qualify for this kind of surveillance, and this would permit an officer to be watching the video and then send in one officer. what concerned me as i was listening to this that these cameras that are being set up all over the city by private entrepreneurs have really great cameras and they have the ability to zoom in. and i don't want to misquote you. if it's something on the back of the cellphone, you would be able to read it. this is where the 4th amendment is implicated. we need to look at the search warrants where the 4th amendment is implicated and as you talked about 8.10, the 1st amendment. we are just digging into this

research at the bar association. we have not taken a position. but i just wanted to alert you to the fact that we will be digging into it and i do think that there are places for the commission to weigh in on those two dgo's. and so with that, i will say good night to you and thank you for raising this before the commission because we have big civil -- >> thank you, caller. thank you, caller, you have two minutes. >> good evening, commissioners, chief scott and director henderson, i'm deputy brian cox. this policy doesn't have enough guard rails so that sfpd won't just target black people. there is discrimination and racial profiling. if this stops the uses of force. those policies are just a joke. what evidence is there that the same result

won't happen with this policy. the fact is that there is good reason that this will worsen and there are officers that have sustained cases of bias. with an annual report of a year later, quarterly is a comfort for those who have this policy and not because of those who were arrested because of this technology. the person that is arrested the result lingers. for which the request is unlawfully granted. the policy is silent on that and that doesn't change any of that. there are audit reports galore but the facts remain. if sfpd wants the footage, they should get it by subpoena and collect it under their normal investigation. this will allow the officers to target people of color. that's clear. the chief mentioned drugs in the tenderloin and that is the use

of this technology to target large communities of color. the commission is going to allow the chief to be spoken out loud, it shouldn't and can do better. >> thank you, caller. >> you have two minutes. public speaker: i really do want to work with you because i know how important this service is. i love my internet. this is what we can do. we can take the $421 [lost connection] >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes. >> public speaker: you already got me. >> thank you. >> public speaker: hello, my name is susan, speaking of black

disparities in the community. we are concerned about this disparity by sfpd. this action will harm a black san franciscans that is ten times likely to be arrested. there is every reason for sfpd if given the ability to utilize live video will use it as another tool to disproportionate target to pursue blacks by using this feed by no other reason than to access the video feed. in effect, this will be another way to conduct -- or justify this. black san franciscans -- when

conducting a search on black san franciscans. the police need greater accountability. thank you. >> thank you, caller. you have two minutes. public speaker: i want to talk and focus on the businesses like walgreen's. right now we have people coming in just helping themselves and walking out. and the walgreen's manager tells me that in order for law enforcement to help them, they have to account for $100,000 of goods stolen and maybe they will consider their request. we have some who don't understand what are quality of life issues. why would i, for example go to the walgreen's and

watch somebody just grab stuff and walk out, and sometimes walk out in front of the police car. this happens on san bruno avenue every time. san bruno. now you have on union square, all of these where people come in with guns. they come in with guns from the east bay to steal and according to some of the comments, we are supposed to allow them to have free for all. this is stupidity of the highest order.

we should have high quality cameras to nip this in the bud. these are high issues and we don't have this discussion and let's get to what happens on the roads or drugs and they are doing those things. >> thank you. >> caller, you have two minutes. public speaker: hi, this is gloria berry. i'm concerned because the chair said how this can be used for racial purposes, over criminalize black and brown people and the answers given to her is we would monitor that and audit it, whatever. however, the chief keeps mentioning the

tenderloin and we know what that means who is down there. there is no mention of the open drug sales at the marina district bars or mission bay bars. as well as political events. until reform is done of the department of the areas they continuously over police and the biases in this department that i call racism, there is no way this policy can be applied fairly. when it's mentioned that good faith officers can ask for footage, that frightens me because we already know the data

an there is not a lot of faith in the san francisco p.d. i would like to see the san francisco p.d. spend more time on the reforms that were recommended as well as general orders that have taken over two years that is pretty simple to just solve. so i'm against this policy. it's racist, and if officers in the tenderloin want to arrest people -- >> thank you, caller. >> public speaker: i was commenting on the cameras that she spoke about, and then i thought about ghost guns. they can't even trace those versus having cameras, and i'm not sure versus that, but i'm not sure how i'm trying to put that together, but it took me a

little while to come on here, and then i thought about the unsolved homicides how they solved cases of homicides down in fisherman's wharf when she was murdered, and how come this can't happen with our unsolved homicides, and then i thought about also when mr. david came on and talked about his mother being murdered and how they should investigate my case too from mr. henderson. so i don't understand why is something going on with my case with mr. henderson in that department? i don't know. i would like to know from behind mr. davis saying that if something is going on, i don't know. is there an investigation, i'm not sure what is going on. going back again, next month my son as anniversary is happening

of his murder and still seeking support of media coverage about his homicide. please do something again, thank you. >> >> thank you, ms. brown. >> this is the end of public comment. it looks like sfgovtv.org is down. can we take a five minute break so i can discuss that with them? >> sure. >> thank you. >> call the next item, please.

>> discussion regarding sfpd's plan to increase police presence and drug enforcement in the tenderloin (discussion & possible action) >> thank you. >> thank you, commissioners. i'm going to start off by giving the high level of what we are doing in the tenderloin and address many of the issues that have already been discussed tonight. really this goes to the open air drug uses which are pervasive issues in our city where this problem is visibly most and present. most active and most complained about in the tenderloin community by those who visit the tenderloin and the

gravity of what's happened and san francisco county has seen many deaths, 400 in 2019 and year to date we have over 600 related deaths. in 21, 641. year to date, 297. this information is coming from the medical examiner's office. the concentration of overdose related deathing are coming from the tenderloin which is not even a two square mile area accounts for the deaths in 2021 and that is by far and this is coming

from the medical examiners office and they are saying this can be attributed to fentanyl. that is where fentanyl right now is the prevailing substance of choice for sellers and appears to be users as well. the center for disease control shows that san francisco's overdose rate was 13 over 100 thousand people in 2010 and now risen to 149 to 1,000 people as of 2020. the reason i wanted to provide that context is we talked a lot about this in our last item. this is really about what can we do to disrupt this loss of life which is being viewed mainly by drug sale and drug usage. i am not representing that the san

francisco police department can solve this problem. what i am saying and advocating is that we have a role and that role is to enforce the law and disrupt this activity. i have attended at least nine community meetings on this issue and business groups, business associations and other city entities on this issue. and i have heard discussions in detail about how drug sale and usage, we are talking about public open air usage negatively impact their safety and quality of life. i also heard from them that they want and expect members of the san francisco police department to enforce laws related to drug sales and public drug usage so those responsible can be held responsible. let me pause there for a second to say accountability comes in many different forms. we are not talking about anybody being

locked up for years. that is not what we are hearing from the community and we are saying that was not effective when that was being done a decade or so ago or longer ago. but i have heard from many many people that there has to be a change in what's happening on our streets and the police department needs to do its job and enforce the laws. they have also repeatedly said that they would like to see the county provide treatment to those suffering from drug abuse and substance abuse disorders. this strategy is to disrupt this activity and open market and the sale and public usage through engagement and enforcement. we do believe that that will have a positive impact on helping to reduce the overdose related deaths and the necessary means to address community concerns about this issue.

that engagement includes the use of narcan for persons overdosing on our streets and our officers are equipped with narcan and they use it quite often. there are a lot of things in our streets that only happens when officers are from and understand what it is when they see it. this engagement and this intervention also includes enforcement of the statute of the california health and safety code when it codes to narcotics and sales of it and this has to happen constitutionally. court order enforcements are also part of this engagement because they have engaged more and many times they have issued

court orders from our san francisco courts to stay away from these areas where they are having these issues. i'm going to address a question earlier in the commission meeting that commissioner benedicto asked about what has changed and what direction the officer has been given in the tenderloin is driven by not only the community input and i have been on and off duty and i have seen firsthand what happens and this usage, we have to disrupt that market. this year, the sfp was granted

or approved for a grant, a community policing grant specifically for the tenderloin. that community policing grant when we applied for, we wanted to use this, it's not a lot but at least get this started. we wanted to use these funds to do a couple things. we want to address this issue that i'm describing, but do it in the spirit of community policing and that grant calls for engagement with community, community groups and calls for working with community to address, from members of the community to address this issue, and also calls for a reporting on whether or not this is addressing this activity and that grant came in march, and i will talk about it

in a little bit of detail to how we are using this to address this issue. there is components that really incorporates everything i said and the components of the grant that will hopefully help shed some light on the change and in our strategy on enforcement. one of the main goals is the open area intervention by community engagement, community input, working with members of the community and enforcement where appropriate. we want to be able to at best as we can have a culture and environment in our city where people don't believe they can just smoke fentanyl or whatever the choice of the day is without being engaged by a san francisco police officer when those officers observe that activity

and that is not hard to do. if that activity is observed, our officers have been directed to engage with that person and that engagement can take several different forms. it can take the form of a citation, or if an arrest is warranted, an arrest. most of them are taken on citations. the drugs that they are using as well as the paraphernalia that they are using to ingest drugs is being seized. that is part of the disruption that we have, and the other part and i hope we get some traction on the other side of this is to bring some service partners and commissioner walker asked about this and bring public health experts to this question and leverage this strategy to try to get people help. there are components that have

to be in play for this to happen. we have no control over what happens at the district attorney's office or the court system, but those resources are available through community justice courts and other resources if those cases are taken that far to actually get people to a better place for services. we also there are officers that engage with people, because there are the people that we do engage with, officers see some of them on a daily basis and there are efforts to get those to voluntary go to the centers where services are available. sometimes that is met with success, sometimes it's not. but the issue for us is, as i read off with the amount of death related to drug related overdoses particularly fentanyl,

we have to do more than what we are doing. and there are many in the community, typically the people that we have been engaged with have asked us to do and that's what's driving us. the grant expires in about a month. with that, there is a requirement to report out in terms of what has been the outcome and the results of the grant. it's not a long time to see what the long-term outcomes are, but hopefully it will give us a gauge about how we engage with the community, how we respond to the community complaints about this issue, and then what method that we are doing within our lane to try to disrupt both the market on the drugs and the sales and the usage part, open air usage.

we have made over 100 arrest in fentanyl sales and around over 100 people in july. these are people who are using or ingesting drugs or reasonable suspicion to engage with people on that level, and some of them have been arrested as well, and i can get you the specific statistics in terms of the arrest. most of them are warrants and stay away order and your seeing the statistics and why the reason we are doing it. before i open this up for questions, some of the

traditional methods that are the strategies that we have em employed, there are operations when this is occurring and the other side is to really address the demand. and what i will say before questions, this is not just about narcotics and drug sale and drug usage because there is a universe of things that happen around this and violent crimes, violence, stabbing, shootings, attacks that can be tied to this drug and usage and sales issue and particularly in the tenderloin. when we address these issues in the past and we expect that to happen this time to see some of those issues reduced as well. so that is a component of why we

are doing what we are doing to increase enforcement. >> chief, are you finished? >> yes. >> just a simple question. when i came to the district, this is the same complaint i heard and heard in the community about all of these problems that you have described. it's been going on for quite some time. it isn't anything new. my question is why now? why is there a response from the department now when this has been happening, occurring and the public outcries have been going on since 2018. >> the public outcry has been going on for probably decades. but for this, we applied for

this grant specifically for this issue to try to do something a little bit different than in the past few years. you've heard me say publicly and if the you haven't, i will say it again. we have to address the other side of this issue as best as we can. we can't just focus on the sales because the demand, whenever you see drug dealers on a corner, you also see people who use in that same vicinity and oftentimes they are using because they just sell drugs, and if we are not addressing this issue, we are not looking at this the way we should be looking at it. this grant was applied for several months ago, earlier this spring, february or so. and we got it approved. we have this funding to make this happen and we have to report back on

what the results are going to be. >> >> this is the first time i'm hearing of a grant. who is the grant from and what is the grant for and what is it going to be used for? >> it's the community policing grant. >> we have gone into the issues and basically what we want to focus on is making sure that these funds are used for having the officers consistently address this issue, having officers available to consistently engage with community, which takes time and effort, and then whatever else that this grant applied to can

be used to support this effort, we will use it. it's not a lot of money. it's $125,000. and we have about another month and the grant period is over and then we have to report on the result, and the strategy. >> are you going to be reporting? >> you cut out. >> i said are you going to be reporting the racial demographics when you report on the grant? >> absolutely. >> great. this is something you should include in the report to include the crime trends and the comparison you do every week is

relevant as well. i'm going turn to commissioners. >> benedicto? >> thank you. as i understand you were able to increase this because of this grant? >> yes. >> let me be as clear. we applied for this grant and we were fortunate enough to get this grant to allow us the ability to do this. >> we've been doing this in less than a month. the grant enabled us to have the ability to do

this, and again there is the community component of this. we have been meeting on this for several months now working with the tenderloin captain and the assistant chiefs and deputy chief as to how to attack this issue in a different way and this is what we came up with in relation to this grant. >> would you expect the grant given the resources, would this have to conclude when the grant expires in a couple weeks? >> does it have to conclude, no. but it will be dependent largely on whether we have the resources to do it consistently like many other things that we have done with grants. it definitely can impact our ability to do this specific strategy. >> if the grant is enabling this specific strategy, you may have to change when the grant runs out. >> if it's effective, like we do

oftentimes we shift our resources to try to make it happen and deal with this outcome. but it is the grant that will help us. >> will the grant be in writing? >> yes, there is metrics in the grant like any grant and we have to report back on what those outcomes are. whether we met those metrics or not. >> and the commissioners will receive a copy of that report? >> definitely, if the commission is asking, the commission will receive, absolutely. >> that's all for me. thank you, chief. >> thank you. commissioner yanez? >> thank you. chief, when you guys applied for the grant, and determined, did you at that point determined that this was the strategy that you were going to implement and

in your request for those funds described the strategy in your request? >> at that time we didn't know exactly what we were going to do to address this issue. but at the time we applied, we had to describe basically what we were going to try to do with this funding. >> and what outcomes do you expect to achieve. is there a percentage of an improvement, is there a number, an increase in arrest for dealers and users, what are the metrics? >> it's not about the amount of arrest because that's not a way to determine success or not. what it's about is trying to address this issue. and again t grant is a short period for a grant. it's only a few months. whether we start to see a difference on the street whether that could be looked at in many

different ways. oftentimes, as we talked about in this commission, we concentrate our specific area and we see it in this place and other places. the other piece, one of the metrics is what we are doing to work with the community, what does that look like in terms of that community engagement piece because we are tracking this community is telling and expecting of us and how we are responding to that. that is part of what we are doing with this. that will be reported on as well. >> how did you come to decide and conclude that this was the strategy you were going to implement. is there any research, is there any other department that has implemented the strategy that is basically the commonplace strategy years

ago out of our addiction, is there something new that outside of what you are saying was community feedback and i know that in general, there is a lot of pressure on the department based on articles, based onto the mayor going in a certain direction, but what informed, what leads you to believe that this strategy is going to improve safety. i understand. i lived in the tenderloin, i understand the usage is a quality of life issue and i don't like kids going to school when they have to walk around. the issues here on my street and the mission also, but i don't understand what new information came to you to kind of go in this direction? it doesn't make sense? >> there are several things that

led to this. as you know from previous police commission meetings. around the first of the year, the lincoln center and part of what our role at least at that time was we were trying to engage with people to try to get them to go to the lincoln center where there were services and the like and there was some potential outcomes from officers and we weren't allowed to take them there. we were to encourage them to go there with mixed results. i personally went out on a number of occasions and walking the tenderloin, walked it with officers, i walked it with my staff, i walked it by myself both on and off duty and

one of the things that has been reported to me and i have seen it, i'm sure as you have, is people using narcotics, many times what it appeared to be in open spaces, any platform, sidewalks, you name it, street corners, places where kids walk to school as you described. at one point, i said what is the strategy we are going to use. we met with the tenderloin captain and we rode around the tenderloin as we saw this activity and discussed how can we do more to disrupt this activity. even being in uniform and in a marked police van, the people were doing it right in front of us.

if they are doing it in front of us, we know they are not going to have a problem doing it in front of a ten year old. we have to address this as it's going on in our city. and if they are doing it in front of us, we have to take more of an active role with these individuals and that doesn't necessarily mean taking them to jail unless they have a warrant for a booking, they are going to jail. the bottom line is, if you have a van full of uniformed police officers pull up on a street corner and that person continues to smoke fentanyl or meth or whatever they are smoking, i think that's a problem, i see a major problem with that. so we want people to get help.

we want people who are addicted to get help. i very much understand home reduction and i'm very supportive and when we had the lead program and i'm hoping we can bring some of that nature back, but we have to disrupt this activity because the bottom line is it's going unabated and we have had a significant amount of deaths, and i'm not saying in any stretch of the imagination that the police department is going to solve that problem, but we have to disrupt it. when we engage in this activity, we also see overdoses and we have officers with narcan and there is the reversal and it happens quite often. commissioner, we really want to use the law not to say that's

the end all be all, but i do think we can do more to disrupt this activity because if we don't disrupt that type of just blatant uses on our streets, the other side of this equation, if i'm a person that is going to sell narcotics and i have a market where nobody cares to disrupt this activity, i'm probably going to sell more narcotics. this is part of how they they # evolves and we are asking for input, what can we do differently, how can we do more. it's not the end all. we also have many meetings with our partners in the city and

county and that has to be effective as well. we can't go to that level of services, but having those partners is where we need to be. >> thank you for that, chief. i think that last note you hit is really important. ideally, we would have embarked on this new direction in partnership with treatment specialist. i know that the cart program was recently funded and that is another opportunity to address these challenges in a non-enforcement manner. i'm going to continue to be supportive of addressing quality of life issues. i prefer the term engagement. when you turn engagement and contextualize it to say may lead

to an overdose, but when this engagement leads to citation for paraphernalia and what we read in the papers, it's challenging to reconcile. i really know that you are putting your best foot forward and trying a new strategy. i'm going to encourage that we work on improving our violent crime clearance rate. i'm going to continue to encourage us to address the sales and those larger scale enterprises that are driving the actual crime because we have limited resources, and once again, yes, we do not want neglecting duty allegations because they are open and about drug use but i hope we do not go in the opposite direction and begin to think that we are going

to incarcerate ourselves a drug problem that is an epidemic across the country. overdoses has increased across the nation. hopefully we can get the support and get them to improve and outcomes of this drug use that is problematic. >> chief, i talked about this issue a lot. when i came a year

ago, the market became on church street and hyde street. between leavenworth and there have been patrols over the year. if you walk up those streets up to leavenworth, it's much better than i can recall. as you well know, the individuals that are allegedly dealing the drugs have moved to ellis street particularly between larkin and van ness. they are actually

going into northern station. and as i have noticed on a few occasions on the last couple of weeks, there was a group of individuals that weren't using, but from past experience and walking tenderloin with your officers and the foot patrols are out, those individuals tend to leave the area. the users, people that are, they are using drugs, they don't tend to leave the area, and the police on many occasions, say, no, you can't do that anymore and some occasions they let them be and other occasions they asked if they were okay because they looked like they were asleep and maybe od'ing at the time. i noticed that the individuals

dealing the drugs tend to leave the area. they are not arrested because there is no actual proof that they are handing it to the individual a few feet away and they don't want the police to figure out that they are and at the same time they leave. that to me without coming in is an effective way of cleaning the streets. as you correctly pointed out, that leads to more arrest, but you get the street back to the people that live in the area to try to prevent the number of overdoses. yet, no foot patrol and northern station needs to come down and southern station needs to come because you talked about dealing on eighth and mission, the eastern side of that mission is

southern station. a lot of good work has been done. you don't have the agencies calling you today as they called us because something good is happening there and that needs to spread and the commitment needs to be consistent. what we see is, you know, i can give you the areas. i have the streets listed here. i'm a lay person. i know exactly who they are. there is no foot patrols there. earlier, six months ago, you had stationery patrols and foot patrol. i know part of what you indicate with this grant and maybe there are foot patrols later in the day and increased presence at night, but i don't see it. i'm going by looking for it and i don't see it. i do see more police cars, but you yourself have said and i have discipled that foot patrol is

the most effective way of breaking up. >> yes, commissioner. a couple of things that you are absolutely right, the coordination between stations, that area where we need to better coordinate, you are right on the other side of van ness which becomes northerner and people we are working with and jackson. the other component of that, as i mentioned when we got in the van, we had southern personnel field sergeant with us, because we knew that eighth and mission, inside of the mission is going to be part of the challenge. when we do whatever we are doing in the tenderloin, we typically go there. so, they were with us and

although they haven't done it to the degree that the tenderloin is doing, they are part of the same process and to commission, the whole question about what we do when this grant funding runs out next month. if we are seeing good results and outcomes, we need to continue these strategies. there will be disruptions and we will make the adjustments. they come on at 11. usually about 20 foot beat officers. they come on at 11. in those early hours, we are lighter staff, we are. i know we consistently try to get over time shifts to cover some of those early hours, not for the numbers of the main part of the day but just to have some

coverage out there and that is some volunteer basis and we get people to volunteer sometimes and sometimes we don't. that is an on going effort to try to cover those shifts better in the morning. as you pointed out in the prior commission meetings, we also have issues later at night when the bulk of those officers go home and we have made some adjustments there and a couple months ago where we deployed some officers in the tenderloin, and it also gave us the ability to make some adjustments after the critical mass of over time officers have gone home. it's gotten somewhat better, but there is still room there to improve as well. so we are lying to to see what we can do there. those are the things we are doing. we haven't figured it out

yet because it still goes down to staffing. and late at night is an indicator that we need to be there. >> i understand other parts of the city have needs for officers, but when the incidents happened at christmastime in union square, there were officers, there were officers from different stations. as you correctly pointed out, this is an issue in san francisco and the loss of life is a critical issue, yet, isn't it some of the

people that are od'ing out there, they come from the station and wouldn't officers better be down there once and for all has an impediment to the people coming in to san francisco to sell fentanyl. a lot of these people commute in like it's their job to come in to sell their fentanyl and they leave for the night and when the police are there, they scatter. there is a police presence and what you have done on the four blocks is amazing and what i have seen in a number of years. but it needs to go beyond that. alchemy plays its part but i didn't see alchemy on eddie

street. where they go and where you go at some stage, they are not going to have a place to go to. >> that's exactly right and what we hope to get to, commissioner. that's exactly right. we need to hold the ground on those two blocks and what we have seen and experiences and with the dealers that are in open air will go where we are aren't. we have to hold the ground and that's the long-term plan and we are definitely going to stay committed to this and as particularly over time that we have used to allow it for that purpose and we have to use it in other parts of the city. there are other needs in the city as you pointed out but we are trying to balance it as best as we can.

>> >> thank you, commissioner yee. >> thank you very much chief, for having a plan for the tend low pressure. like myself and commissioner byrnes. i go down there every so often, and it's a different tenderloin coming down hyde street from a year ago. it's a lot clearer. you can see the people coming out. i see less of the users and less of the dealers, it looks like. so hopefully we can continue that. but looks like some of them has migrated down south down to the mission corridor. what you have done in the tenderloin, i would like to see that also move down on mission

and eighth. i just want to note, the city attorne has a $54 million settlement. maybe the police department can ask for funding. hopefully we can get some to handle this issue. again torques say that we work with the users and try to get them often. sometimes you can and sometimes you can't into the program. sometimes arrests have to be done, and then to the judicial system coming into play. maybe there is an output to have services provide for one of the requirements. we don't have a revolving door to put them in jail and put them back

out. offering solutions and hoping that our social services and mental health will offer and city services can provide those needs for them, that we don't have this continued debacle for the last six years. i'm looking at 2017, which you mentioned. that 220 deaths. that is substantial. then you go to 219, in 2019, it goes up to 400 plus, 2020, 700 people. those are families that their loved ones have now lost. and 2021, we are at 600. we have to do something and i'm looking forward for how the police department can do our share, and i hope that social services and mental health and maybe the

street crisis can intervene and hopefully we can bring this down, down to hopefully to 0. so that's my goal. i'm not going to ask you many questions. it's tough work out there. like we saw happen in 2018 when it came in, it has to stop. i'm glad that we are going out and doing something about it. hastings has done their share in providing that coverage along the hyde street corridor. we have to work down the city and reach out to people in need in these desperate situations. thank you, chief.

>> thank you, commissioner. >> >> commissioner, can i just add. part of this, really our focus has been on fentanyl and we have confiscated 25,000 grams of fentanyl and with those engagements of people with using in open public spaces, the majority of the drugs that have been confiscated is fentanyl, about 25 grams. but 25 grams of fentanyl is very deadly. part of this disruption, this is, i'm not talking about the medical remedy for this, but what i'm saying is disrupting the activity. so people when they come to the city and county of san francisco, don't have in

their head that we can do whatever we want, nobody is going to say anything because nobody cares. >> can we go to public comment. >> i'm sorry. commissioner walker? >> >> thank you. >> i know you are not used to. >> no, i didn't see you in the chat. >> oh, is that where it's supposed to be? >> thank you, everyone. it's really heartbreaking for everyone to experience. this whole issue has been a failure everywhere trying to deal with this. one of the things and why

i focused on mental health response and working with social programs that the city worked with is addiction is a mental health issue. it's somebody trying to self medicate. no matter how someone is addicted and whether it looks like they are making choices, they are not. and so that's sort of at the crux of the issue around the user itself as oppose to the sale. it's not for someone in uniform to provide the intervention, but that's the opportunity we have when it's on the street. so having the partnerships that works, using what we have, these are new programs that have come up with the ambassador program and with the alchemy group.

i spoke to garretty in the district, the different response has been really working for the community policing part rather than you've got work to do and maybe the community policing is better served with these organizations. there's probably needs to be more training and just making sure that everybody is on the same page. like this regular meeting between everybody doing this work. and that's common throughout san francisco. i mean it's common in the arts delivery system, the art support, dbi and planning have totally separate databases. we have to do better by working together especially on this issue. we have our personal experiences or family members

who have been caught up in this. it's complicated. i want to say that i really appreciate the challenges. i think i spent a lot of time in the tenderloin inside buildings too, not just out on the street where with these kind of issues and nobody knows who to call and just call the police and now we have the mental health number that they are supposed to be responding to, but do we have anybody answering the phone, i don't know. that's what i'm saying, it's time to talk about this stuff. i feel heartened because we are having this conversation. i feel like it's good. we all wish it would have started happening many years ago but it didn't and now it accelerates like everything if we don't find a better solution. so i really appreciate you all, all of your questions and attention to this.

it's such an important issue, and i want to also, i want to do a ride along as well, chief, whenever it's convenient. especially in the evenings in the tenderloin or whenever you think. i think it's really important for all of us to speak because how we all solve this, is not simple. anyway, i don't mean to be delay the evening. thank you for the discussion. >> i really do emphasize that we need a better communication with all the agencies working on this. >> thank you. >> commissioner, we will reach out with that ride along.

>> if you would like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. >> good evening, caller, you have two minutes. public speaker: my name is susan, i'm with the core team of disparities in the black community. first, what is the status of the state of emergency declared in the tenderloin since december 17, 2021? we are concerned by the renewed conversations about increasing police presence in the tenderloin. increased police presence has already been tried. what has been proved? nothing. has anything been addressed to the housing issues in the tenderloin. this affects black san francisco. 26% of the drug overdose deaths in san francisco are the black san francisco, and 46% of the homeless population is black, and yes they make-up

less than the 5% of the population of san francisco. increasing policing will only further criminalization of the african americans in the tenderloin. this has not shown any positive outcome. as of yet, evidence shows there is no improvement of those who serve and protect in the tenderloin. thank you. >> good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> that's the end of public comment. >> thank you, next item. >> line item 9. >> discussion on the status of the mou between sfpd and district attorney (discussion & possible action)

>> you keep cutting in and out, chief. >> good evening, commissioners, again. the status of our mou is the department is still working with the mediator, judge walker, the appointed mediator. we have never stopped engaging with the judge even with all the changes that have happened in the last month or so. jenkins, i have had several conversations with her. we have agreed to extend for 30 days the terminations of mou, and the

hope is to get the revised mou in that period. she is committed to that, i am committed to that, the department is committed to that. we've already worked on some language. so we want to attack this issue with the sense of urgency. and until that time, the current mou still is in place. so that is where we are. just to refresh anybody's memory following this issue. the work that we do with the mediator with the d. a. and i have signed a non-disclosure agreement. so those mediations are a private conversation and we have this place to have these discussions. we signed that disclosure and agreed not to disclose what is happening in the mediation session. that is still a

standing agreement being supervised by the selected judge. for those that are not aware, both the district attorney at the time and myself agreed to this particular judge and the city attorney's office is helping to work through these issues and helping to make sure we stay on course and provide legal on both sides, the general counsel and the district attorney's office. that's where we are right now. >> commissioner benedicto? >> thank you, i want to confirm a couple things. we've got a couple extensions now. i want to confirm that at no point was there not an extension at this point, is that correct? >> that is correct. there has never been a point in this

process where we didn't have an mou in this place. >> with this latest extension, you are optimistic that you will be back here in august and the next time this comes up there won't be another extension? >> i'm optimistic. we are going to put in the energy to make sure we work through this. i am optimistic. she's not stepping into a new situation. the issues have been identified and i'm optimistic. >> if this progresses and you are unable to reach a deal, would you agree to another extension. because operating without an mou is not a viable option? >> yes, to be clear. i do not intend and neither does the ada

from my conversation to operate without an mou. >> are you confident that with this time, it hasn't lost any momentum? >> i'm confident that with the incident that occurred in february where it first happened that we have abided by the mou and the district attorney's office and we've only had a couple incidents and have been notified and responded and as you know the sentiment ended up being taken by the california dodge # -- u.s. department of justice but we noted that to the department and when the decision was made that the california doj

was going to make that transition that is noted. >> is it correct that these mediations have not outlasted the provisions of the mou? >> no. the 2019 mou is over two years. it was here when i arrived in january of 2017. that mou was signed in april 2019, somewhere around there. it took over two years. it was already on going whether i got here. >> it was in 2017. if this comes back after 30 days and there are no more extensions, i would ask for an update on the progress. even though here we are meeting with

the judge at bay. sfr # -- i think it's important to give the commission regular updates. >> yes, sir, i will do that. >> thank you. that's all. >> director henderson? >> thank you. you all know we talked about that in the past. i have requested even from the beginning to be in the room as part of the negotiations. i understand that is not happening, that's totally fine. but i would hope and encourage all of the parties. my concerns are with the mou addressing protocols related to officer involved shootings that we really make sure and ensure that we have protocols built into place so the information sharing about the on going investigations that take place when we have these incidents is equitable so we are not bouncing back and forth with the

difference between how the da's office handled that process and both practices and reform as well as accountability in whatever comes out for the mou that you are crafting. if there is anything that i can do to be helpful on the basic outlines of what the transgression have been made between the parties on all the process, i'm prepared to help out in anyway i can and that outcome is pretty well defined. i want to say that and for the record and i am happily eager and willing to help but looking forward to an outcome to be consistent to remedy some of the problems that we've had in the past without deteriorating and finger pointing and whatever

will happen because i'm not in the room. >> thank you. >> just two clarifying questions. you mentioned that ms. walker was mediating in the negotiations. i thought the judge was brought on to mediate potential future disagreements between these offices in the department about what the mou requires in a future dispute. can you just clarify whether that's true and whether he's also helping to facilitate negotiations on what the mou should look like? >> you are correct. if it is

retained by the city and count to consult on this issue, that will be the judge's role. but there were disputes that went into that that were part of what was asked of and to mediate those disputes because were those things settle would help inform what may end up being changes in the revised mou. that is how that is happening. so we are working. as we always have been working with the district attorney and their staff on drafting revisions. but some of that is informed by the disputes that led into this when we retained judge walker. the city and county retainer. >> so i understand, judge walker

is going to mediate disputes and also mediate perspective views on what may or may not arise on the mou. i'm not clear on the third piece. is he also facilitating on what this mou will look like or will he play a role on this negotiation and over the terms of what the mou are apart from this dispute? >> he is available to help facilitate. ideally, the two parties can work this out, but the judge from day one has made himself available to facilitate. it can work out if not needing then no need to do that, but that is a part of what we hope to accomplish with retaining the judge's services.

>> that's understood. my last question and this is a very minor point but i feel the need to raise it that came out of this mou issue. that you extend it for 30 days, so is that 30 calendar days or 30 days. i want to be sure the record is clear? >> thank you for that question. 30 business days. i'm sorry i didn't mention that. all the intention has been in business days. >> gotcha. >> thank you. >> public comment? >> if you would like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. >> good evening, caller, you

have two minutes. public speaker: hello, my name is susan buckman and i am tired and i'm speaking for the black community. we are concerned about the mou between the san francisco district attorney's office and the sfpd. under this mou, they will use all cases under bodily harm and including officer involved shootings. numerous deaths at the hands of the sfpd prompted the review in 2016 and the subsequent report. this mou complies with the recommendations in that report and is essential for police reform. all parties, the sfpd, the police commission, the doj, the mayor and the da, whoever that happens to be at the moment, must be striking the mou. with that end, we believe that future negotiations that

the mou remain in place, not on a temporary or interim basis but on a permanent basis. thank you. >> >> that is the end of public comment. >> thank you. next item. >> presentation of the department of police accountability 2021 annual report (discussion) >> i was not sure if he was going to give an intro or not. >> i was waiting for you to tell us we can talk. please proceed. >> you require no introduction. >> with that, i will get right to it. i will be presenting our annual report for 2021. sergeant

youngblood will you please pull up the slide. >> i want to state that our report has continued to evolve by request of this commission and the community on what they want to see us report on. what we have included is our first police district pages with sfpd calls for service within each district. our website includes a new dashboard which allows us to track new historical findings and we started the civilian oversight alliance meetings to

discuss pressing issues such as how to address issues in california across all agencies. also what happened recently with senate bill 16 with the releasing of the records and some of those statistics will be reflected in the report. >> 2021, at a glance, the highlight here is our sustained rate 11%, that is much higher than the national rate of 4%. in 2021, we ahead over 100 policy recommendation and also the work that comes out of what we do and policy issues we see within those cases.

>> these are the cases that were open in 2021. over the five year time period. cases closed in 2021. these are cases closed by quarter as well as a five year comparison of the amount of cases closed at our agency. >> so these are demographics and we have been trying to improve our analysis of or demographics and learn more about what our complaints are. a challenge has been for a volunteer to provide that information, but this does breakdown what we can ascertain about the person's race,

ethnicity, gender. and the phone is the two largest ways that individuals interact with dpa and now that we are opening up, we are taking complaints again but this is the way we get most of our complaints. this first slide talks about allegations and that means what the complaint is that comes in and the vast majority are the negative duty, that means failure to write a police report, failure to do a proper investigation. the next largest session is conduct of unbecoming officer and speaking inappropriately, having a hostile tone, those sorts of things. the next case, means this person violated and acted without cause.

improper conduct finding. improper conduct allegations by type, again the vast majority here is neglect of duty. i'm going to look at the right column which says in 2021, dpa found improper conduct which means we made a sustained finding of in proper conduct in 131 allegations in 161 cases that you know, one case can have multiple allegations. the most common allegation was neglect of duty and unbecoming officer. those are the areas that we get the most complaints and where we sustain the most. improper conduct agencies sub types if the officer failed to

comply with the department general orders, with conduct unbecoming with the officer displayed threatening or intimidating or harassing behavior. this is an example of the data, the district pages that we created and i actually believe that was born out of commissioner request about the data for each station. what you will notice is that this is not necessarily a direct coercion are correlation between what has the most complaints and sustained findings, however, we did breakdown the calls for service compared to the complaints and even at a glance reference for each district station. here we see the samples of mission and northern park and you can see the whole picture.

mediation, i know commissioner benedicto talked about that earlier and we'll be giving a robust presentation on the program when we return from the break in september. but for 2021, we mediated 37 cases and as seems to be the trend across the board, neglect of duty seems to be the most cases, the majority from northern mission and tenderloin. we do have a new mission coordinator, she will likely be on the team presenting to you back in september. they were very excited about that and her work continues to grow the program and make sure that it's meeting the needs of the community and the officers who engaged in that program as well. >> for policy highlights, in 2021, we reviewed and analyzed

12 department general orders largely headed by jones and we made 109 policy recommendations, and in terms of the work we initiated, we made limited questioning and made recommendations in regard to officers and recommendations in regard to dgo 3.01 to allow more community involvement and increased oversight in the policy development process. i know we are working on the particulars of implementing those changing but that's a foundational change that we need to make in order to make the whole process smoother.

capturing what we released in 2021. we disclosed 52 cases, that was 35833 pages as a disclosure. by the way, as a reminder, these records were not kept to being disclosable and hand redacting various files and i'm proud of what we had in this work. the breakdown oid and gbi. our audit is award-winning. we received an award for our use of force audit. in 2021, we also initiated an audit on how it

handles issues of discrimination. this is a slight shift from what the unit in each of our divisions have produced to overall snapshot of something that director henderson and director of recruiting have been very focused on which is our racial equity and racial equity plan as well as our hiring demographic. this shows that we have 50% of executive staff are women, 40% staff hired is women of color and 50% overall hiring are women. you will be hearing from our officer intern program in the

summer and in 2021, we had a summer internship program. 45% were women, over 300 hours of research and summarized 24 hours of investigative interviews and they will come before you to talk about the great work they are doing this summer. okay. i tried to get it in in my allotted ten minutes. if you have any questions i will have an answer for you. >> thank you. commissioner benedicto? >> thank you. just a couple of questions. thank you for the presentation. i know that dpa

has been in the process of reporting and fhq's. one possible desire to those that have been turned away in the past, one possible point to that is to be increasing is that built into the planning and that streamlining process is underway? >> i haven't personally thought about it like that. it's something we are constantly striving to what can be a bureaucratic process and trying to make that more clear and constantly working on outreach and the appropriate outreach. i think this is a way to me that faq's has served a purpose for the people who have already made a complaint. i think there is a way to leverage the information with faq's with outreach to

achieve that kind of goal. >> i really appreciate the new level of data. the next question with data is what we can learn from it. is there a way to start figuring out how much more of our disparities when calling for service and the difference between calls for service and dpa complaints. is there going to be an attempt and is there something that is going to be done later, what conclusions we can draw on actions and do as a commission in response to the new district level data that we have? >> absolutely. i would say this represents phase 1. the first step is to get information and we are meeting more analysis that is driven into solutions. i think we will be doing that as this report kind of evolves for the next year. i don't want to wait for the 2022 annual report

to analyze the data. we can probably start doing it quarterly and that data is coming in. >> i know it was mentioned in the report that dpa joined the statewide alliance and though that is fairly new, are there goals that you expect to process the dpa that will be improved as a continued member of this organization. >> director henderson organization. i'm happy to talk bit but he will probably be the person who has better information on that. >> thank you, yeah. we started the organization. we created it at dpa as a means of facilitating back and forth all the oversight and to share resources so if folks are jumping into recognizing that

civilian oversight is best practices for police reform and accountability, that is not up for debate, that information has been codified into community and central policing and those guidelines are aspirational versus being institutional. so having that information and organization where we can share the information not to compete with some of the other national organizations that exist like naco, but to speak to specifically the restrictions and the opportunities codified in california law is the point behind the civilian oversight agency. it is quarterly meetings with anyone that is a civilian oversight agency that can participate in share resources like the directory to contact

back and forth and hopefully not continue to stem the problem and vote for police and shared with the jails as well. >> i know we had a 15 month audit in may use of force audit and wonder where we had the next couple audit updates? >> i believe we are trying to schedule something in september or october for an update on the current audits in progress. i will make sure that's scheduled. probably late september or early october. the audits will be ready for public discussion. >> okay. thank you. nothing further.

>> >> thank you. >> commissioner yanez. >> director henderson, just a couple of granular questions. of the 131 sustained allegations within the 61 cases, are these all different officers or were there any agencies for multiple matters on one officer? >> >> i don't have that data right now. there could be multiple allegations for one officer, but i don't know if there are multiple cases involving, you know of the 61 cases of 40 officers, i don't have that. i will get that information for you and provide a follow-up in writing because i know we are going on a break that we can then publish to the community to

the next police commission meeting. >> thank you. that would be great. and in addition to that, i'm still trying to figure out how systems are communicating. do we know of any of these the same allegations within these 61 cases where officers who had surpassed the indicator in the early intervention system. were there any that were over 3 points, over 6 points that were eventually sustained within this number? >> i don't believe that we have looked at that. i will find more about that and follow up as well. >> i really need that answer because obviously we talked about the early intervention system. there is a presentation

recently about it and if it is to prevent things from escalating, it would be great to find a correlation. are there members who are reaching their fifth, you know, indicator point, and there is no performance improvement plan or something that could have may be intervened with the fact that there was a sustained allegation. >> we wouldn't know that. sfpd already knows that because there would be already cases. it would be within the sfpd purview to match the dpa cases with the eis indicators. we don't have access to it. we are not allowed to look at matters unless they specifically involve that particular officer's sustained discipline. so we wouldn't really be able to, if i were

going to do this, i would give you the same sfpd. >> the only primary indicator that we have are the allegations and the actual cases. the culmination of that is turned over to the department. that's all we have and unless the department is going to share the other indicators with us to compare with the information we have, it puts us in a difficult situation without the information. as part of with a we are anticipating and hopeful with what the benchmark analytics and the program that is being developed and cultivated this is having the information shared with the dpa to collaborate and accrue it the efficiency. currently as the answer to the question as you posed it for today and right now, we have what we have and the allegations, our investigation and our sustained

cases. >> so, chief, what department or unit would be able to generate this cross-referencing as we stand right now before this benchmark program goes online? >> it has to do with eis, that's true the administration, chief of staff, the department to handle or has the oversight on anything that is administratively related. that body of work is done through risk management, through administration, i'm sorry. that would go through moser. >> so there would be an ability to look at maybe 2021 allegations, sustained petitions and whatever the early intervention system just for a

point of reference. i would love to get that analysis. we are going on a break and maybe when we come back there will have been some work on this to have status to compare and looking at performance moving forward. the last question i will have is more of an observation. i noticed there were only two complaints filed by the 14 and 19 year old age group. i know there is a category of those that don't report their age or gender and want to keep it confidential. i know the public defenders's office is involved with providing consultation to minors when there is an arrest. obviously we would love to get the word out and you have revised and spreading the qr

code and forwarding to the groups that i know. what can be done to make sure that young people are aware of their right to report and where to report if they have these -- encounters because that is an area that we need to improve upon. i know often that young people claim that they are being harassed and their rights are being violated but they don't have the recourse or don't know what the direction is. obviously your outreach efforts are always active and i want to make sure that we do emphasize how do we target that age group. thank you. >> i will say and a large part of our outreach is

intentionel -- for young people and with the juvenile commission and with a lot of work that we do especially with interns especially throughout the summer is to expand our outreach that is specifically designed to reach young people. part of what we get a false edge of the numbers reported -- image and the numbers reported is so much on the analysis and the measurable number of youth are participating in the process that isn't being accurately recorded due to the anonymity of the process, but that said, we are always open, welcome and receptive to new ideas to how to

best present this information to youth groups, to schools, to organizations that want to hear the information that we have and learn how to utilize our agency and address concerns specifically with law enforcement through us and the staff. i'm open. if you have new ideas, i would love to welcome them and try new things. >> we are working on new advertisements for airport and muni and more of an outreach mechanism that is targeted rather than know your rights advocacy and that should be launching soon. >> great, thank you.

>> max carter-oberstone? >> thank you. on page 12 of the report, it shows the demographic breakdown of those who made complaints. i'm curious why there is such a high percentage who declined to state their demographic whether it be age, race or gender. i think you mentioned there is a desire to remain anonymous. >> when i spoke with them, generally what was conveyed to me is they don't want to give information and it would be turned over to the police. despite however we do, propose it, articulate it, that's

generally what people say when i drill down to ask why they are not giving this specific information. this is anecdotal. there hasn't been a study. we also really encourage people if they don't feel comfortable, we want the information and still want them at the table. we allow them without recourse not to drill down and ask too many tough difficult questions of why they didn't fill specific things out. my response to your question is only with the people that i have talked with directly told me. >> i would agree. we have kind of internally tried to make people more comfortable in giving that information and we have not come up with a solution to that issue yet. >> great. thank you. my only other question is ages

19-30, the report breaks down by district. one thing that jumped out to me was that the cases reported to by district didn't correlate at all with the population size of the district. tenderloin arranged no. 1 in overall cases reported to dpa despite having the lowest population, carry val by 8, i wonder what drives the number of cases reported? >> the standard we used were in

the report and what's reflected here could be a reflection here of what changes all the time and could be police activity and the kinds of things they report on or things in the neighborhood or what's occurring in those neighborhoods more often. the breakdown of the presentation like that with the raw data was designed to empower the specific neighborhoods and the folks in those precincts to look at those numbers and data to see if their experiences are reflected in what they see, if not to be encouraged to articulate to the concerns they have with regard to policing. what this guess into what motivates to the

investigation and rather than the analysis of the data. if steve, he would say, it's too impossible to tell unless you make more of the data points finite and provable across the board. that's my view. do you have anything different? >> i don't. in my presentation, there is not always a correlation in the most sustained complaints. i think that is a piece that we don't have yet, and i'm now going to have more work with you to see if there is a way to solve for x and see what might be driving that. >> i think at the end of the day you may get an answer that just defines that rather than answering. these are the factors that we can't answer where volume of police or concentration of good officers or concentration of incidents

that drive the most complaints. i'm making those up. but i would imagine that all of those would be factors from drastically changing those numbers from time to time and give those outcomes. >> i think this is interesting of this uniformity of the rate of complaints from neighborhood to neighborhood and sharp from one district to the next, more than i would have predicted. i know that steve is busy and has other things on his plate. i do wonder if running a regression analysis with certain factors that you could at least be where it correlates with. i didn't have any expertise going into it but i thought it was surprising.

thank you. >> commissioner walker? >> >> thank you very much. this is a very good source of information and the way it's laid out is really helpful. one of the things that i have noticed in the chart in the case findings and page, with neglect,

that's significant. the one on page 8 if you can bring it up. the majority of situations of neglect of duty and the others are everything, unnecessary force, unwarranted act, what the officer is doing. i wonder if there is a correlation that exist or percentage and looking at data >> one thing i will say, where we look at trends on a quarterly basis and have discussions and across the board in 2022, neglected duty seems to be the same thing and failure to take

an incident report is the main theme, the same type of allegation as what we call it and the data. i'm going to talk about solutions that we are working on. starting august 3rd, dpa and ieb are going out to stations to do, as said in the disciplinary review policy meetings, when it comes to the incident report taking policy, it's pretty clear and unfortunate incidents where it's not happening and we are working collectively to let officers know where there is a trend that we are seeing that it is unacceptable and let us help you take that incident report. that is one of the major complaints we are seeing. >> do you know what the incident is when they are not taking the

report? are they getting data about what type of situation it is? >> when we do our cases, yes, we get the very detailed information, the complaint and the documentary evidence and a report and might be a tad or something else and we interview the officers involved and sometimes they will provide a reason thinking the report wasn't necessary and the decision made whether or not that was appropriate. so that is and something that we can maybe effect change on and going every wednesday for the month of august, i will be presenting with lieutenant from iab to give officers these examples that maybe it's a culture thing, one off thing, maybe you got really busy and you didn't think you needed to write a report but it

was unacceptable and an easy way to avoid getting yourself in a case. in those particular cases, that individual feels unheard and by sfpd and something to to have an impact on. >> great. i won't if that is the information that they will realize that needs to be there. >> that's a fantastic point. >> it's an opportunity to --

thank you for the report. >> >> yes, regarding the cases and allegations and you have a history of data that some of our officers are missing in their training, maybe possibly or maybe that they are missing some steps, and i think you talked earlier with commissioner walker on that that you are going out there and being proactive to

address these issues on that. no. one is duties. you have the data. you can probably point it to where the officers are missing some of the steps. so is there any feedback to department and the training staff that maybe needs to be improved? >> i think that's what's happening with the meetings and we are giving you a year's worth of data for the department for that calendar year. i believe that ac moser and the chief mile field what they want to do with that information, but from our point we are giving you the

information sooner so they can act on it sooner whether that be a training or policy level and we are making sure we are disseminating the quarterly reports to all the captains at each station so they are made aware of the trend that we are seeing. >> okay, my question would be to chief moser, are we going to cover all the members making sure they are notified and these are some of the steps that need to be covered? >> yes, just to reiterate what sarah said and expand upon it a little bit. there is a couple of different ways that we are working with and getting the messaging out. as sarah indicated and sending

out the reports that indicated the complaints is one way, but what we are really driving for is to have more of a direct conversation and that's what is going on with our trainings that are going to happen next month. that's really having those one on one applications where those dpa and ied have conversations with the officers and say this is what we are seeing out here. these are the things that are getting officers in trouble and these are things that are avoidable. it's not only for the officers but for the supervisor as well to be aware of what's going on, to possibly intervene and help support the officers to make the right choices out there. that's really what the goal of that training is. that training did come out of a recommendation from the disciplinary review board. so

it's a furtherance of that. the other thing that i would add is that recently dpa started sending comprehensive reports regarding policy or training failures that they found and that helped the department move forward with corrective actions, not only on an individual level but on a department level if need be. >> thank you very much. that's all i have. >> >> there is something that i want to speak about the

foundational issues that seem repetitive and i think a lot of people get that information and use it across the state and the nation to help the work that they are doing as well. i did want to point out that some of the new things that sarah was highlighting is going to keep evolving into more new things especially the work coming out of the new website. i think it keeps getting better and better with more information so people are able to find information without having to ask so many questions as they have, part of what i think they are doing is looking at their own practices to see, something that you saw last week with our questions and answers anticipating where people have challenges or questions or what

you are seeing in the report. compared to the chart on page 5 to evaluate what dpa is doing in comparison with other agencies. we did not include it this year, but i would love to post that same kind of comparison exactly with the department. i have said this for a long time. it's difficult to evaluate the efficacy of dpa without the comparison of how discipline complaints and discipline allegations are handled internally with the police department as well. again, the complaint we make public is what the department can make with the public as well. the graphic we had with the district stations, i anticipated some of the questions that many of you would have, but the decision was made and i wanted to make sure we disseminated the raw data beyond just having a finite analysis of

all of it to try to empower the people with the data that we are collecting to just really try to push ourselves on making the highest level of transparency possible. that will cover a lot of our review and practices and summation of the work that we have done with the sheriff's office as well. you are going to hear the stuff from the mediation in september. i won't dwell on that. i hope it's not locked on the analysis and the data that has gone into the timeline for completing investigations. i think i think that's informative and they get

a lot of that understanding and one of the misconceptions that i think people have misunderstanding the timeline of these investigations and we will continue to have more on race and internal review on race. and i also don't want lost on folks page 42, the training that the organization participates in and doing the work that we do. i

think this is our best report and this is the best one but i want to talk about some of the things included in this report making this the best again and make it easier for the public to pick up and read with more charge, more analysis and more raw data as well given to the broadest audience possible to use this data as a tool to do their own work. that's it. i just wanted to point these out to make sure they weren't lost to have the conversation and to analyze the annual report. >> thank you.

>> >> is there any public comment? >> please press star 3. >> >> there is no public comment. >> next item. >> discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 3.07, "police department collision board of review," for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the sf police officers association (discussion & possible action) >> who is presenting on this? >> i believe we have director preston. >> director preston, can you

hear me? >> good evening, everyone. i was not aware i was doing the presentation for this. certainly you have seen the red line. it has significant changes in it. additionally, i have also conferred with the city attorney's office that the changes in it would fall under the meet and confer requirement. this dgo establish the board of review for the police department establishes the safety standards. for the board of review. i'm not sure if you have

any questions. >> hello? >> yes. chief, do you have anything to add? i believe this came before the commission and came back after sometime. >> commissioner, i don't have anything to add. the red line copy is in here and the changes have been noted. >> the only thing i will add, in the spirit of what we are doing with this review board, this is in the same and only baseball to deal with traffic collisions. the review of these major incidents, would also set some of what i believe the direction we are going with the department

and review board. i don't want to -- delay the issue but it's in the same spirit. >> it's just for collision. >> any quest >> >> >> >> >> i want to just chime in. there is language there recommending disciplinary action in some cases and i'm wondering why there is always a suggestion. there is clear language that you know, a member can have the driving privileges suspended if there is an incident that leads to that type of action, but it's not supposed to be considered a

disciplinary matter or performance improvement measure. so, i do not know what the reluctance, resistance or inability to include language that is a little bit more forceful that requires folks to put things in writing when someone is not adhering to a dgo. i had to get that out there because it doesn't seem as if the early intervention approach is having much of an impact when folks are not being expected to go into performance improvement plan even when they lose their privileges to drive a vehicle. it just doesn't make sense to me, sorry. >> one think i think i will add is a couple years ago, i believe now, the commission adopted a document called referral guidelines and it's a very

detailed document about progressive discipline and when officers should be disciplined. so, that's a standing policy for the department. additionally, there is a manual that for sergeants and command staff for when officers have vehicle collisions, there is a process detailed in the manual that i read a couple months ago that relate to 3.01. there is a document that you can also reference that relates to collisions with officers. there are processes in both of those documents. >> got it. i wasn't aware of the manual. i will look into that, but, yeah, i just noticed the suggestive language, but not very concrete recommendations in it. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i have a question for the

chief. if an officer loses his license to drive a vehicle, are they still allowed on duty? >> they are not allowed to drive if they lose their driver's license but that is somewhat related to commissioner questions, if it's issued to the matter of internal affairs and whatever the recommendation and circumstances, severity of the issue, the court mandated that the driver's license be suspended, then internal affairs will make that recommendation to the chief of police. if it's a temporary suspension, like let's say based on an on duty incident, it's going to be

problematic because usually you will see that from a traffic collision, impairment, driving under the influence, those types of things. anything that happens, that's going to be an issue because the officer cannot perform the essential duties if they don't have the driver's license. we would refer to internal affairs for referral and then there is disciplinary action. that's what should happen in those matters. >> yeah, it should be a job requirement, must have a valid driver's license. >> yes. >> that would likely in that situation if that played out where the essential job funds can't be made, that would be a police commission referral.

>> got it. >> thank you. >> can i get a motion? >> i will move. >> i will second. >> at this time if the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 11, please press star 3 now. >> there is no public comment. on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote? >> yes. >> commissioner walker is yes. >> commissioner benedicto? >> yes. >> commissioner yanez? yes. >> commissioner byrne, yes. >> commissioner yee? yes. >> vice-president? yes.

>> you have 7 yeses. >> next item. >> line item 12. public comment on all matters pertaining to item 14 below session including item 13. press star 3 now. there is no public comment. >> thank you. next item. >> line item 13. >> vote to hold item 14 in closed session. action. >> i made the motion. can get a second. >> second. >> roll call, please. >> [roll call]

>> 7 yese >> >> >> vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussion on item 14. >> we'll go to public comment and take a vote. >> is there anyone who would like to provide public comment for item 14, please press star 3 now. >> there is no public comment. >> take the vote, please. >> we have a motion. can i get a second? >> second. >> [roll call]

>> you have 7 yeses. >> line item 16, adjournment, action item. >> so moved. >> second. >> we are done. >> good night everyone. >> thank you all. >> >> >> >>

>> usf donates 100-120 pounds of food a night. for the four semesters we have been running here, usf has donated about 18,000 pounds of food to the food recovery network. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪

>> i'm maggie. >> i'm nick. >> we're coe-chairs of the national led organization. what food recovery does is recover and redistribute food that would go wasted and redistributing to people in the community. >> the moment that i became really engaged in the cause of fighting food waste was when i had just taken the food from the usf cafeteria and i saw four pans full size full of food perfectly fine to be eaten and made the day before and that would have gone into the trash that night if we didn't recover it the next day.

i want to fight food waste because it hurts the economy, it's one of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases in the world. if it was a nation, it would be the third largest nation behind china and the united states. america wastes about 40% of the food we create every year, $160 billion worth and that's made up in the higher cost of food for consumers. no matter where you view the line, you should be engaged with the issue of food waste. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ >> access edible food that we have throughout our lunch program in our center, i go ahead and collect it and i'll

cool it down and every night i prep it up and the next day i'll heat it and ready for delivery. it's really natural for me, i love it, i'm passionate about it and it's just been great. i believe it's such a blessing to have the opportunity to actually feed people every day. no food should go wasted. there's someone who wants to eat, we have food, it's definitely hand in hand and it shouldn't be looked at as work or a task, we're feeding people and it really means so much to me. i come to work and they're like nora do you want this, do you want that? and it's so great and everyone is truly involved. every day, every night after

every period of food, breakfast, lunch, dinner, i mean, people just throw it away. they don't even think twice about it and i think as a whole, as a community, as any community, if people just put a little effort, we could really help each other out. that's how it should be. that's what food is about basically. >> an organization that meets is the san francisco knight ministry we work with tuesday and thursday's. ♪♪♪ ♪ by the power ♪ ♪ of your name ♪

>> i have faith to move mountains because i believe in jesus. >> i believe it's helpful to offer food to people because as you know, there's so much homelessness in san francisco and california and the united states. i really believe that food is important as well as our faith. >> the san francisco knight ministry has been around for 54 years. the core of the ministry, a group of ordain ministers, we go out in the middle of the night every single night of the year, so for 54 years we have never missed a night. i know it's difficult to believe maybe in the united states but a lot of our people will say this is the first meal they've had in two days.

i really believe it is a time between life or death because i mean, we could be here and have church, but, you know, i don't know how much we could feed or how many we could feed and this way over 100 people get fed every single thursday out here. it's not solely the food, i tell you, believe me. they're extremely grateful. >> it's super awesome how welcoming they are. after one or two times they're like i recognize you. how are you doing, how is school? i have never been in the city, it's overwhelming. you get to know people and through the music and the food, you get to know people. >> we never know what impact we're going to have on folks. if you just practice love and

kindness, it's a labor of love and that's what the food recovery network is and this is a huge -- i believe they salvage our mission. >> to me the most important part is it's about food waste and feeding people. the food recovery network national slogan is finding ways to feed people. it's property to bring the scientific and human element

>> i went through a lot of struggles in my life, and i am blessed to be part of this. i am familiar with what people are going through to relate and empathy and compassion to their struggle so they can see i came out of the struggle, it gives them hope to come up and do something positive. ♪ ♪ i am a community ambassador.

we work a lot with homeless, visitors, a lot of people in the area. >> what i like doing is posting up at hotspots to let people see visibility. they ask you questions, ask you directions, they might have a question about what services are available. checking in, you guys. >> wellness check. we walk by to see any individual, you know may be sitting on the sidewalk, we make sure they are okay, alive.

you never know. somebody might walk by and they are laying there for hours. you never know if they are alive. we let them know we are in the area and we are here to promote safety, and if they have somebody that is, you know, hanging around that they don't want to call the police on, they don't have to call the police. they can call us. we can direct them to the services they might need. >> we do the three one one to keep the city neighborhoods clean. there are people dumping, waste on the ground and needles on the ground. it is unsafe for children and adults to commute through the streets. when we see them we take a picture dispatch to 311. they give us a tracking number and they come later on to pick it up. we take pride.

when we come back later in the day and we see the loose trash or debris is picked up it makes you feel good about what you are doing. >> it makes you feel did about escorting kids and having them feel safe walking to the play area and back. the stuff we do as ambassadors makes us feel proud to help keep the city clean, helping the residents. >> you can see the community ambassadors. i used to be on the streets. i didn't think i could become a community ambassador. it was too far out there for me to grab, you know. doing this job makes me feel good. because i came from where a lot of them are, homeless and on the street, i feel like i can give them hope because i was once

there. i am not afraid to tell them i used to be here. i used to be like this, you know. i have compassion for people that are on the streets like the homeless and people that are caught up with their addiction because now, i feel like i can give them hope. it reminds you every day of where i used to be and where i am at now.