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room. for those persons in the chambers signs mobile devices that may sound off. at this time i like to take roll. commission president matsuda. >> here. >> vice president nageswaran. >> commissioner black. >> here. >> commissioner foley >> present. why commissioner johns. >> here. >> commissioner so. >> present. and commissionering wright yoochl here >> first is public comment. may address the commission on items of interest within the jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items your opportunity will be afforded when the item is reach in the the meeting. each member may address the commission for up to 3 minutes. go ahead, sir. >> great. hi. i'm michael patrellis.

i'm here to talk about the castro theatre. and um -- what will be on your agenda in october. um -- i have here a sign that reads, save the seats. it refers to the seat in thes orchestra section of the craft row theatre, which another planet wants to remove so they can flatten the sloped orchestra section. um -- i'm against the um -- eighth plan to renovate the theater. i am um -- here for a number of reason. first to reminds you of trauma in the castro since the 1970s with the political arc assassination of harvey milk. in the 80's we dealt can the aids epidemic killing thousands of gay men in the castro and

continued to the 90's. we have seen an epidemic of evictions in the castro. long-term residents forced out. while all this is going on, we gays had to deal with incredible stilling in and attacks by regulars and political figures. the trauma of decades in the castro has never been acknowledged by greg perlove and another planet. they came in january as the great saviors of the castro. never acknowledging the trauma and the pain we are carrying with us as gay men for decades. since then, the another planet people refused to hold a town hall meeting until august. that is in the the way to engage

in respectful community engagement to wait 7 months. to have a town hall meeting. at that town hall meeting i had to fight with their liaison to make sure we had public comment. than i did not want to gives public commend they wanted us to use [inaudible] instead. last month at the small business commission they wanted limit us to 60 secondeds of public comment. i'm here to ask you to give us 3 minutes every public speaker deserves 3 minutes about the castro. um -- and plan to be here for a long time a lot of folks will turn out and we need the opportunity to have 3 minutes of public comment. foiblely, i will give to the secretary here, cards for the festival this saturday at the castro i hope to see you all there. >> thank you.

why if you can give these to the members i'd appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. any additional public comment. come forward. if remote press star 3. seeing no requests to speak issue commissioners scombrrnl public comment is closed and for your benefit the castro theater is expected to come on october fifth. commissioners that will place us on department matters item 1 department announcements. good afternoon, xhshs. you know the board primary low been on a recess for the among of august. there has been no updates to your work program. i do want to put a note of recognition to one of our staff who is leaving us. kathrin billbarn or katie has

been with us for 4 years submitted her resignation and living and moving over to kentucky and wish her the best am has been a wonderful member of staff and preservation program and contributed a lot to the city. so. >> thank you. that will place us on commission matters consideration and adoption draft minutes for august 17, 2022 regular hearing. members of public this is your opportunity to address the commission on the minutes you need to press star 3 if you are call nothing remote low. and if you near the chambers come forward. seeing no requests for the public, public comment on the minutes is closed. and the minutes are before you. why move to approve. >> second. >> on that motion to abandonment adopt the minutes commissioner write. >> yes >> commissioner black >> yes >> commissioner foley

>> yes. >> commissioner so. >> yes >> commissioner nageswaran. >> yes. >> and commissioner matsuda. >> yes. that passes 7-zero now item 3 commission commentses and questions. are are commission comments or questions? i have an announcement i'd like to share. last night supervisor peskin introduced the resolution urging the san francisco recreation and park's department to develop and install 69 signage on the park site. this site in 1942 was the site for an detention centers for japanese americans. it is little known compared to the others and camps yet incarcerated many important individuals in the japanese-american community. and i would like to thank supervisor peskin for

introducing this and would like to request that this be part of our next board commission agenda item to make a similar resolution to support the installation of signage and acknowledging sharp park as a temporary detention center during world worry 2. this falls in line with our commission priorities of social and racial equity. >> thank you commissioners for your consideration of this. >> thank you. if there are no other comments from commissioners, we can move on to consideration of items proposed for continuance. present low there are none placing us on item 4. 3251, 20th avenue. commissioners this is for your review and comment.

>> i believe that commissioner wright will need to recuse himself. >> i node to request to are recused my office is involved in this project. >> motion to approve recusal. >> is there a second. >> seconded. >> thank you. on that motion to recuse commissioner write yoochlt commissioner write >> yes >> black yoochl yes. >> foley. >> yes. >> commissioner nageswaran. >> yes and president matsuda. >> yes. you are recused. >> good afternoon allison, planning department staff. we are here to provide you an opportunity to rerue and comment on the preservation alternatives we propose to be analyzed in the draft for the stones town development project. based on resolution 0746 and further h pc guidance bringing a

full and fashl preservation to the h pc for your consideration prior to the draft eir. [speaking very fast]. this item does not require an approval action. but it an opportunity for the commissioners to provide comments and recommendations regarding the alternatives presented. we will return with an opportunity to comment on the draft eir early next year. i will turn over to chris. thank you. >> hi. good afternoon commissioners. chris with planning staff. allison said the item before you is rerue and comment on the preservation alternatives proposed to be analyzed of the draft eir i'm joined by allison cultural resource team manager and the project side courtney with brook field properties. joining remote the vipiral

coordinator. rick cooper. environmental planner. lisa gibson. environmental review officer and christina from page and turnville. [inaudible]. il start with afternoon over view of the project site. the project site is located at 3251, 20th avenue in lake shore neighborhoods. the site the galleria shopping mall, 27 acres of park and operations uses and 3 acres of streets. the project site is bounded by san francisco state university campus to the south. local high school. sf housing and buckingham way to the west. stones town family, y. commercial uses and [inaudible] to the noeth and 19th avenue to the east >> existing buildings of the site kist of the galleria shopping mall.

700 space parking groj the authentic church at 3355, 19th and a building northeast corner of 20th avenue and buckingham way. >> there is one identified historic resource on the site. which is the one story currently vacant united artists stones town twin theatre at the north west corner of the site. the ua stones town theatre is 501 buckham way and construct in the 1970 and designed by george k. red in the new formalism style. concrete building a rescue staining lar floor flan and divided to 3 sections. a new formalism style lob etch stucco hyphen to the west and lobby. and undeck ritted stucco include

real auditorium that houses the 2 theatre space. facade colonnade that wraps partial leap ournldz the south elevations. building is sprays friday buckham by a courtyard at the primary facade. >> the theatre operated until march 2020 when closed do you to the covid-19 shelter in place order and was not reopened. the theatre is individually eligible for listing in the california register of historical resources a superior example of the new formalism style within san francisco with a period of significance of 19 upon 70, which corvpneds to the year of construction. the ua theatre is not located in identified history irk districts. the character defining features include the symmetrical facade

of the one store portion. growing colonnade at the primary facade. growing evacuates with arches in the lobby. a flat roof. sunken courtiard. smooth wall surfaces, over all massing of the auditorium at the rear. and the interior chandeliers. moving on to talk about the project. the project proposed to redevelop the 20 acres of surface park and structure this is surround the galleria site into a master planned multiphased mixed use community. the shopping mall remain with minor facade alterations. the parcels that contain the mall would be rezoned part of the proposed special use district. in total it proposed to demo 4 structures clzing the theatre.

over all the project proposed to construct will following. 2, 930 residential units. and new retail use. nonretail sales and service use. hotel use and institutional use. construct a new childcare facilitity and space for community unanimous add 4, 250 parking space. develop 6 nearly 6 acres of open space. and provide further infrastructure modifications. upon the project looks to achieve objectives. a summary of the primary points of the objectives. one, to redevelop the portions of the project site including surface parking lots. structured p and vac an structures surrounding the galleria to create a new neighborhood that provides a mix of residential, retail,

commercial, hotel, public gathering and community space. 2, maximize housing throughout the site and provide housing in prongimity to local and public transportation. 3. to build a mixed item community that provides for a range of afford at level and attracts diversity of household compositions. >> under ceqa a range of alternatives need to be explored that can accomplish most of the basic ocjectives of the projects well as arc void or lessen one or more of significant affects of project. along with a no project alternative, the project sponsor and planning have identified one full preservation alternate and i have one partial preservation alternative for your review.

under the full preservation alternative the athlete remain and converted to a multifamily building with 10 units the existing lobby converted to a residential lobby with minor aterations. the growing vaulted colonnade of the primary facade retained and the sunken courtyard. >> alterations would cldz the punching of windows and door openingos morgue and south sides of roar auditorium and insertion of windows on the west wall. they would be limed to 30 to 40% of the wall surface of the auditorium vool um. rear converted to 2 story space and sky lighted added to the flat roof. lastly, one or bother of the hallways between the lob and he auditorium retaind and reused to

provide interior access to units. it is full preservation alternative retain all of the character designing theatres to a high degree the alternative meet or partially meet the basic obyektives but construct 310 units of housing in the northwest residential area compared to the proposed project's 470 in the same area. under this partial preservation alternative, the front lobby, stucco hyphend and sunken court yards would be retained auditorium volume demod and kisting of 30 foot tall section that recalled the massing and serves a transitional volume borrow rising 8 store and hes extending would be constructed. the 30 foot tall section contain

a double height amenity spitz and one floor of residential. 8 story contain 100 residential dwelling units. the partial preservation would retain most of the character defining characteristic of the theatre except for the massing of the rear and hyphen and the mooth unash doerned wall surfaces the partial preservation meets objectives and provide 4 thondz square feet of institutional space and construct 400 residential units versus the 470 the project proposed in the northwest residential area. the -- table shown here summarizes the alternatives as they compare with the proposed project the project would develop 2, 930 residential units on site, in total and 4 upon 70

in the north west residential area, the full preservation would develop 310 house and 2, 770 in total. the partial preservation alternative construct 400 in the northwest residential area and 2 know, 860 in total. in developing the preservation alternative planning and project sponsor locked at sight constraints the objectives and character defining characteristic a range of alternateerations and varying uses for the historic resource were explores to max the density of the site. the alternatives explored were rejected due to impacts to proposed open space, inability to meet onjectives for urban

design of loss of residential density and due to existing site constraints. the department concluded the 2 preservation attive was presented today represent the balance with reducing impacts to the historic resource on the site and meeting the objectives. as a reminder this item before you does not require action but is an opportunity for the commissioners to provide comment and recommendations regarding the alternatives presents before the draft is brought early next year. thank you very much for your time. myself and my team are available for questions you may have. >> excellent, thank you, chris that concludes staff's presentation. open up public comment them is your opportunity to address the commission on this matter. come forward and lineup if you are call nothing press star 3 to be added to the queue.

>> i'm michael patrellis again. i'm glad to see that they are proposing to save the lobby. and um -- you know, i think um -- hai heard says they are trying find a balance. between um -- preserving this theatre, which i note, um, they were premiering barbara streisand owl and the pussycats back in the day. we need housing in the city. so, um -- i would like to see as much of that theatre retained as possible and converted for community use at the same time, that additional housing can be created on that lot. um -- i would like to question

why there is going to be so much retail. um -- we all know that retailer has basically collapsed in the city. you can go really through many neighborhoods if in the all and see empty retail space what is being built now you call mixed use, you have a lot of housing above and the ground floor is for retail. and it is empty, empty, empty. people are buying things online. am so -- i would hope that this proposal would look at reducing the amount of retail space that they are thinking of creating. and finally, um -- i don't think i heard anything about um -- um -- emphasizing public transportation. and bicycling. to what will be created in these locations. the gentlemen talked about the number of parking spaces that

are going to be made available. let's look at reducing the number of cars and the number of parking spaces and ask that -- the developers um, really stress the need for everyone to use public transportation or bicycle or walk. um on hawill be created there. thank you. >> last call for public comment. again you node to press story 3 if you are calling remote low. no additional requests. public comment is closed this merit is before you. >> commissioner foley? >> i have lots of things to say. um00 eye want to mention that brook field the developer is a real developer they are not trying to entitle something and sell it to somebody else they build across the country and the world. they are real. i locked at historic things and

redeveloped history irk building i thought about adding residential units the top of the build and realize today would have taken away from what the structure was and is. when i look at this is another old thee that is dead. many people have a difference of opinion on that. that's my person opinion. when you look at the different project its is difficult to make these work construction costs are through the moon. really expensivement infrastructure alone to build this is huge. it will generate union jobs and about retail that mall is busy and i don't like parking but i think the amount of parking they have is reasonable considering the amount housing they'll have and the life of that retail. i have been to that retail multiple times i was on the board of chinese and american

national school building across the street. i eaten there, drank there. seen the community there. it is not easy to get to with mass transit i wish transit worked better we should support the sales tax increase to help mass transit to be funded we need more mass transit. idea of keeping that building and building 10 units is fairly ludacris this is not about the preservation planning staff, they are incredible and did all the right studies. we have to go and let this developer get had approved. go build housing. a bunch of affordable housing and workforce housing and market rate housing. because we are in a housing crisis the state told us city and county of san 43 we need 82,000 units weapon 42 plus 42,000 affordable. the only way we will solve this is in the by building a handled

unit building it is the large projects with a real develop they're will go build. i think i'm done, thank you very much. >> thank you. commissioner black. thank you. i have a couple of questions. the first one is -- for staff. and i know this is a planning related question but -- um -- for especially for building w2 or w1. and n w 1 is this limited by height in meaning is zoning different there than the zoning further in the mall where buildings w3 and 4 are? i thank you might be appropriately responded while the sponsor. >> sorry, i'm sorry for the

suden question i can make my points without knowing the answer. >> good afternoon courtney partial with brook field property development. intent for the project is enter into i development agreement. with the city. and um as part of this -- zoning map amendment and general plan amendment and et cetera. the entire site will be rezoned. we landed on the height that you saw today based on um -- code analysis, fire code and conversations with the community. grade the grade of the site. the nw1 parcel that you are questioning has a pretty steep grade challenge there. so -- there have been factors that go into the proposed

heights you are seeing here. >> thank you. i appreciate that. the development agreement handles the details that would be physically expressed in the project. i i agree with the staff report that the over all center has had so many renovation its is not eligible as a district. however, i do think the movie theatre is eli didn't believe it is superb example of the formalist style. the hyphen and the back of the structure i don't think have character defining features that make it immediately obvious as excellent examples of that style. i have no reservations about both elements being demolished.

i feel very strongly that -- we have few examples of this stifle architect in the city and had is the only remaining theatre done boy mr. rob. that has survived. and it is a very good example of this style of architect so as a historian, i think it is very good. it has not been messed up with the front section. something else i wanted point out; those hanging globe lights? in the inside. those are really quite astonishing. and currently this is the trend in architectural renovations. it is an interesting world coming around.

um -- as indicate in the the staff report we just don't have enough examples of this architecture. so. concerning the alternatives i support the partial preservation plan. i have no reservations about the eliminating or changing the hyphen and the rear mass. allowing the existing front portion to be converted to whatever use works best whether a community theatre or a lob tote residential. retail what works best for the development scheme. all for -- i would like to encourage and it is -- you know at this level it is hard for us to comment if a planning perspective. i imagine the 70 units not easily but can be picked up somewhere else.

either through additional roof height. some footprint alterations? i say this not having been to community meetings where there might be push back i get it there is a tug and pull with all of this. i think that can be done and i continuing is important to do that to preserve the front portion of the building. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner johns? >> thank you very much. first of all i like to my comments are i think with the report in the analysis is excellent. you did a very fine job of analyzing the preservation issues. as well as a wonderful job of presenting them. and i think that was helpful in that includes by the way.

the alternatives which were considered and rejected. now i -- one of the great things about this commission is listen to the other commissioners. sometimes you find things that are blendses of idea thasz you had and this is what i finds in commissioner black's commentses and commissioner foley's comments. and commissioner foley's comments. and commissioner foley's comments.and this is what i fin commissioner black's comments and commissioner foley's comments. i think this theatre is eligible to be preserved. whether it should be is an entirely different matter. one upon which people might disagree. i don't think that it is pertinent for a commissioner this findses the style of architecture something out never

should have been built in the first place and thinks it was particular fret day it was constructd and would be help to see it go. those are not the bases for consideration. of the adequacy of the analysis for the draft eir purposes. i do note that there are other building in san francisco, i believe, in the same style. one is on the corner of columbus, green and stockton. and i made the mistake but i think well is another one very close to the corner of california and polk. and perhaps 2 of those -- 2 examples might advertise the

desire to preserve this architecture in san francisco the report analyzes and presents these considerations. and whether or not this -- eligible building should be preserved will eventually be up to the board of supervisors. those are my comments. thank you. commissioner nageswaran. >> so, i wanted to just kinds of -- step back and look at the ceqa context of this. in ceqa it says this a rule of reason that says the range of feasible alternatives selected and discussed to foster meaningliful public participation and inform decisionmaking. and it says focus on alternatives that lessen the significant can affects even if

this would impede the attainment of the project objectives or would be more costly. in my mind i feel like the alternatives presented are good but should be one more alternative that is retaining the structure in tact. it may not be viable but i think if you have it, it is open for discussion if it it is in the later on you may finds something is asking for it and impedes your own development process. so, in looking at the alternatives one thing that i kinds of saw in the sort of the rendering the pace with the catholic church and the twin theatre could be the open space.

and then -- denseifiying the other areas that you have open space currently you could denseifiy those and also include parking under the spoois space between the to buildings or under this space you could use the converts that buildings to -- a use other than housing may be a problem but we should consider you know other types of use. like a community center. you have an a lotment for childcare that could be a childcare center. lecture hall. farmer's market in the green spice. could be a very like lively land scaped children's play area with

mounds. and -- you know -- you know thinking of it in another way, i feel like when we look at ceqa alternatives and ceqa is meant to protect historic resources soeen if we are preserving the historic building or reusing it, i feel like there should be some some -- consideration made to make a place where these, these structures can live. st. stevens at the north and the theatre at the south, if that space between was open pace and a bit of a buffer on either side, of the twin theatre, then there could start to be a really sweet space there hayou know i

think of you know place like rome where you are always turning corners and seeing the vistas or accomplices made for these really i conic, small, you know, features or buildings. and it is not that rome has a consistencyy of architect it is this they made a place for them. part of what i think of as preservation and what ceqa is trying to achieve is not to fill the voids and maximize spaces but also make a sense of place. and think about how can we make a sense of place and retain the historic structures. and try to -- you know -- upon enliven it is spaces we have. and certainly, building housing

is a huge push but from our purspective it is about also thinking about the cultural resources we have. and not going too far off the edge. and i think this alternative would help people understand what is possible and may be it is -- you know the point is made that there is not enough housing. we don't know. or people like that alternative, it is out there to provide open discussion about these things. those are my comments. >> thank you. commissioner so. >> you want to, can i ask a question? for the you are proposing we consider a full preservation alternative not housing but keep

the theatre in tact. and consider a different use for it. why compableable with the original use. >> okay. >> okay thank you. >> thanks for the presentation. thank you, chris and thank you for the sponsor and public comment. this was a full on collective intelligence here about hawe think it can be done. i love the rehab of the mall. my daughter's loved it. it is like me there every other weekend because kid need a safe space. to learn how to be adults and san francisco we are lack of that because we are just evolved the way we evolve and thank you for doing the right thing and changing the major retail anchors to be family and kid

friendly and it is giving them a space to breathe and learn and still as parents you feel safe to have them. i do agree it is hard to get there. if you don't have a car. or on a bus. so i drive my kids over there pican't weigh if we have measure tax funds to have a straight line transit to get my daughter from relive in the mission all the way there. [laughter] without mom drive and it is saving the environment. i appreciate creating different preservation alternatives. partial alternative and i agree we need a lot of housing in san francisco and it is been difficult to get measure housing approved for one reason or another. and i honestly think that you

have the project sponsor has spent a lot of good faith to study and study how you can make this work. and i also understand in san francisco it is unique everyone think of the historical part of san francisco it is vitorians we graduated frathat we look to something built in the 70ss. we don't have a lot of formalism in our city that we are preserving. in the mix of all of this i wonder if we can actually allow you to basically build something tall are than 30 feet in your preservation alternatives? the other part of the theatre and also this is now architect talking here or lydia talking, we can do beam transfer.

we can build up above the formalism theatre. to do cantilever over and build more above it. i don't know if that is something you had architect explore in for a project of this manage tude i think you are looking into a substantial and embed cost in the structure system. if you could built something over the theatre you can allow you to gain back more than 70 unit. on the air space. i'm open for that and love we account potentially have like a formalism in the facade the kids can learn that there are other architecture and style of neighborhood and in that neighborhood and that living environment that could be quite

cool and interesting. butir. the foremost priority i would love you guys to have gone back to you know the same number of housing if not more than your full preservation alternative may be perhaps you can look at the air space since we are in the topic of reestablishing the zoning for your project. thank you for doing what you do and i hope that the future of our children in san francisco can enjoy more on that part of town. that summarize my comments. >> thank you. are there more comments or questions from the commission? >> allison do you believe that you have enough information to go forward? >> great. >> yes, thank you very much. >> yes.

>> commissioners kate -- black and john -- are those requesting to speak? i think these were. >> making sure. >> commissioners if there is nothing further we can move on to item 5. case number 2620-013156 the san francisco survey and landmark internship projects they will be informational upon presentations. >> hi issue commissioners before we start i want to take the opportunity to introduce the 3 interns that you will be having presenting before you. and talk broadly about our summer program. obviously, you heard us talk a bit the past couple minutes about our fabulous interns and the program managed by former

preservation manager tina tam. we were fortunate to have 3 candidates who worked on various programs across the summer. before you today now is alex resnik. graduated with nasters in urban planning from nyu. he has been working with mentors hall and maggie smith on the sf cultural association and historical resource finding audit since june. remote youville 2 more joining us. who will give us presentations ema hall a masters of science in historic preservation if actual listen and bachelor in art history from by college. she work in the museum collections management and melanie and frank on the public art and monuments historic statement. and you will hear from a city planning graduate student at m it.

urban itch and sociospatial injustice works with shannon on landmark ridiculous nigz and interpretation project. qr codes. so -- no there is more than that. yea. we were pleased with their work products and look forward to hearing from them. >> thank you. >> >> so. good afternoon, i'm alex resnik an intern. today i the shirr my progress on audit of the documents and how the audit contributes to sf survey. the goal of the odd sit to daylight information that real have collected about the many historic resources. planning staff create them as part of ceqa review in 2019

we -- 2, 700 of them. motivation is to find properties that have associations of the various cultural groups. this is an opportunity to digitize data points historic resource in the city. we have information more comprehensive whether historic resources present or not. it is in the easily accessible. >> you are likely familiar with this monopoly from previous presentations. i'm sharing to note the phasing of the audit follows a similar order. i'm working on areas in gray labeled on going evaluation audit. >> and now where to finds one for the public, perhaps. there are a few paths the public can use to access the documents. the public can find them on the property information map. on the historic preservation tab they are further down on the page. i want to note the documents are

not the only document time that determines the historic niche of the a property but highlighted above. that monies they are historic resources that don't have hrer. the public can access through a fellow citizen access. that is where i story my research for each property. now i will take you through the process for reviewing. i firefighter them and i search the property on google maps to understand the context. then i begin my evaluation of the text. i search for information on the architect or build and note whether they are of merit. i search for and note language that phasing out such as mast are architect. i know cultural associations dependock importance architects and any historic mentioned. [speaking very fast]. and historic context statements and repeat if there are multiple for a property or if additional

documentation that would created part of the environmental review. >> i will run through an example for 323, 10th it is available. and accessible. which is great. it is clearly stated tht property is a category a. and known historic resource. we know this from suvators and a team review form older substitute. i will not go too deep these are off screen shots. you see, the document notes the property is significant under the california register and notes the reps with property and historic and cultural districts. well is a lot here but the point is we have all this information documented internally. after reading i record this as data findses we convert in the future. >> this is a visual rebel centation how the information. the document describes the building former ocpants and

stochler's boots the lbgtq plus context statement and the property is within 2 historic districts and one cultural district. we'll be able to document the relationships and art shows. you would link the components in a statement interface we have information we need and now digitize it and not have to survey it. >> here i want to note the daylighting data from hrer will contribute to mapping efforts. map here shows properties in districts associated with cultural groups in the migsz. eligible properties in the historic accomplices, cultural. legacy believeses and art 10 and 11 properties it is an opportunity for you to find more properties over locked bite designations and need to maps of the document more. [speak very fast].

trying to integrate with cultural associations with demographic data to show how communities moved across over time this is race and ethnicity of the 2019. from the department draft housing needs assess am. we have data where communities live now but we need to combine data sources to draw a nuanced picture back. mapping migration helps us understand where we may be missing information. [speak very, very fast]. in the richmonday 50's and 60's including our hrer closely for cultural associations. census data is desz detailed the further you go. in 1990 the census gathered information on noneurope an languages. race and ethnicity is further back in time. we are working back how to combine that with other sources local believes director reals.

to taints a fuller picture. and including those that we know about from the full are context this work is on going. so -- that concludes over view of the odd and i how it contributes to the sf survey. also note there will be an update on the next hearing. thank you. >> i think there will be questions after all of us. thank you. >> okay. now move on to ema. queue ema up. >> hello can you hear ninety-two me? barely. >> good afternoon i'm ema moony and [inaudible] i will tell you about progress i made on the public art and monuments historic context statement. as well as what i hope to accomplish in the next few

months. you know this is part of the greater cultural resource survey effort. with the help of might have supervisor planner melanie and francis mc milan i tried to craft a narrative that touchos cultural and social movements that shipped the public art of san francisco. here is an over view of my deliverables for summer and again i will work on these through december. my priority has been writing the historic context statement. along with the framework. i have been compiling a list of art resources integrated in the survey process. and lastly, artist biographies will offer framework as relating to the life, work and impact of artists. they have not been written from

my data collection we have a long list to work from. the scope of the statement includes city resources 1848 and 1989 accounts for resources that will be historic in the next 23 years. category of public art includes metal and stone, abstract sculpt urs. mosaics, murals and number of unique arc accept blanches or objects with intentional or acquired communities value. it is important to note that public art should not be defined by medium as by the accessibility and visibility to the general public. topic. why this is there will be something that is not fit in physical or conceptual categories i'm inclineed include the out liars if they don't fit in the purview. i don't want resource to be

neglected because it is difficult to define. examples other diamond height safety walls. [inaudible]. and a third is architectural ornamentation on the golden west building on mason street. commissioned boy an artist on a building like this compared to other mass producedornamentation. and these their tifs completed by joe morea. >> here is a sample of topics from the context same. ranging from both art monuments of 19th century to more recent community murals of 1970s up to present. >> and then to continue and illustrate the diversity of topics and resources i point out the apparent common threads that

link them together in a large are narrative of san francisco history. first is the relationship between art and prosecute test. inherrent to the topic and reference to art being made in prosecute test to something or a political statement in mind. along with citizens protesting against existing art works. and the theme is art and education. and this is the formal institutional sense along with the more grass-roots community sense. >> and lastly i wanted point out the importance of creative partnership and collaboration much of the stele's public art. they are similar to architecture rarely [inaudible] fully designed by a single individual this . is showing samples who worked as assistants and

collaborations between artists and between artists and architects. >> and then the their tifs of historic stimulate is the evaluative framework help futures planners make appropriate decisions and designations regarding the opinion art resources. all frame w for the topic is challenging because of the diversity of materials and the diversity of have yous that surrounds public art. some challenges to work through are designing a frame w that allows for flexibility integrity standard in the face of work valued boy the community and may not retain integrity noticed by outside the communities input in significance determination in the case of monuments people have strong, negative opinions on and articulating an artist of

merit designation like the biing on ralph framework developed elevate artists based on community involvement and impact not education and tenure. one of the examples why this is important the case of [inaudible] pictured here a city p's employee carve said the wooden sculpt ortho tri-cyclen in the p but not considered himself anning artist per se. and further address the topic of monautomatics that are effort in the city to develop more guidelines how to move forward with the evaluation and hopeful low take notes. one is many you know the monument memorial advisory committee commissioner so is a member of. this is a collaboration with

city agencies which meeting since the beginning of the year to establish evaluation criteria and guidelines for monument in civic art collection. and another organization that is taking time to deal with issues a collection of artists and designers and work groups have reports and conducted public surveys what purpose our monuments serve today if any. our process for evaluating monuments need to incorporate community engagement and there is a lot of future work to look forward to. thank you. i'm open to questions you may have and i will pass it on to [inaudible]. thank you. >> hi. i'm suzie [inaudible]. i want to preservation tome on

the landmark [inaudible] project ferguson senior planner of the department. i can start now. sudden (is i city with diverse cull roll and architectural heritage and planning has a role to play in recognizing documenting and communicates the service. the land mark designation and interpretation program is an effort to coordinating this historical landmark accessible to people in the city. preservation team is interested in installing plaques for land marks and upon [inaudible] for instuling politicals in 15 of the landmarks. this pilot -- there was a [inaudible] and [inaudible] landmarks stage. the physical included design, reduction and interpretation of

the plaque and forces on the planning website for landmark designation and online man for the land americas in the city. based from the pilots the project updated designs for the politicals with the implementation plan. the -- updated landmarks -- exploring digital technologies -- and recognizing the landmarks qr code. taking a look at the physical -- this is an example of the plaque design including the program -- information about each landmark. highlighted -- the name, address, description and designation date. city will [inaudible] the

production of the design during which the schedule issues with the process of the text. -- consumed staff time and combra costs the recommendations to explore new cost options -- along with the -- man hours spent on proofing. for inspiration the plaque designed in other city's prospects including -- and more graphic [inaudible] -- on the right and -- posting information about the landmarks -- weave look at examples of qr code technologies. -- digitally in other parts of

the world. another program in detail is the city's office of small businesses legacy program plaques. the politicals have unique business names registration dates. business start dates and the significance of the business designation instead of about that business. we have a website with map list of businesses. -- this -- came up with a new design for the plan. the new proposal will look at updating the old plans and incorporating the qr code tech mology to link to online information about the landmarks in the program. . this is the new design. the design has new permanent plan drawn respondeds 3 -- qr

code. the only unique -- in this decent are landmark name, number and [inaudible] with the district should indicate as a lands mark of significance. this -- text is expected to -- the qr coved is made in a map with more information about the individual landmarks. -- worked with 2 companies for the production and installations. there are -- the first is walking with the boundary. this process is cheaper and planning staff to do project management with the boundary -- plaque manufacturing and installation. the second is [inaudible]. involves working with the sign company do much of the project management for planning

department for the production of the [inaudible] and installation services landmark [inaudible]. comparing the proposals if the 2 agency plaques sign companies [inaudible] is [inaudible] -- additional service of project management through the text and installation. i sdeel it is expected to assist the department for allocation for the program. the next project is [inaudible] allocation for the program. the next project is [inaudible].

the map limitations like [inaudible] and presentations information about the land mark. as a part of the project we [inaudible] new [inaudible] pages and maps. this is what updated lan marks designation program will electric like we will update in the coming weeks. updated map is a first on the page of the text about the landmarks now in the mapping app. here is the benefit you see of the new page. [inaudible] a design for the new page in the program. next. this information how to ghet a plaque and landmark plaque installed. the new week map will look like

interface with historic landmarks. clicking on the land mark is the map [inaudible] able to see more built landmark. this featured new location in the city to be [inaudible]. the it department or disabilitied -- on phone now the website and qr code [inaudible] the qr code upon [inaudible] phone version of the app. next. so those were project i did over the summer and chanelo excellent support and the department. i would like recommendations for the implementation of the [inaudible] the idea to contact

landmark property ordinance to gain interest in the program and monetary contribution. and from there budgetary allocation the program the department [inaudible]. the website and the map it would be [inaudible] to add descriptions about each landmark and updates to have more pictures and information. and an idea to have [inaudible] the different landmarks. thank you. >> thank you. individual good presentations. thank you. thank you to the supervisors. indeed these are informational we should take public comment. members if you care to testimony on these matters feel free to come forward. >> i'm michael patrellis i saw in the first presentation the castro lbgtq cultural district. i want to point out this

district automatic -- i filed a complaint with the ooum compliance monitor finding out where are the compliance reports? where are there um -- reports back to the city. how they are spending a quarter of a million dollars in city funds. um, after 2-1/2 weeks of witting for a sponse from planning she said i need to contact the violent of the cultural district steven torys. there has been a break down in terms of monitoring this cultural district by the planning department. um -- i sent a letter to the bay area reporter last month that got published i sub over to julia and noting many problems

especially how they are not holding open public meetings and they have had emergency meeting in the past 2 months about allocating 20 thousand dollars for an unspecified litigation matter. and in addition to that, they have formed a group the castro theatre stake holder coalition. um, it meets every friday virtually. and i than it meets virtual because i filed a public record's question with supervisor mandelman's office. we are the will cultural district meeting about the castro theatre what was out of public component to it. they are not giving us reports about when they are talking about. when they meet every friday about the castro theatre and they have not called for any public meetings.

um -- seeing them listed on the presentation it has trigger in the me um -- the need to peek out and say. we need some monitoring over this organization especially because um -- they are not creating culture. >> we do need culture created in harvey plaza in the castro inform jane warner plaza in the castro. yet the cultural district is not creating culture. and i hope that you will take this in consideration when anything about that district come before you. finally, these were great presentations i'm glad i showed up for them. thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. last call for public comment. no requests to speak.

public comment is closed. >> great. are there questions or comments from the commission? commissioner black. i want to say i was struck byow sophisticated the projects were. and i was really impressed bite comprehensiveness of it and so congratulations to the people who prepare today and mentors. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner so. >> very amazing job. i justmented say, thank you for all the interns and the supervisors. and the 2 that is dialing ema and susy, really good job and good presentation skills the whole thing was amazing. the thoroughness of each subject matter is impressive and i really need to give a shout out to ema and francis because i am

a little biassed with the art thing and the memorial and monuments but that one goes so deep. i am really appreciate that our staff take on a very holistic brood prop to include everything this is really worth to really preserve and -- highlight them and down to the wood sculptor that never thought he was an artist but he is. we need to emphasize people who did amazing things throughout their life for our city. i love the park. really, thank you and hope you enjoy the experience intern here. i love to see you come back. in your career. have a great summer. >> thank you. commissioner nageswaran.

>> i was so impressed by this. you know. i started working preservation 26 years ago. and you know, spent, let of time researching projects and doing historical resource evaluations and getting hrer and going to the library and doing the research. and it is always you know, i think of how in the past it has been -- you know a matter of due diligence versus love. i mean i always love today. does not mean everybody else does. the work that you are doing and have done is really making come arc live. and it is full of purpose. because we -- have a history that -- we almost does d not know we are learning so much

about the people. you know with the buildings. with the different cultures and the legacy businesses i would never thought of how much i would learn about each of the businesses out there that their history. what they do for the community and what they add to our context. it is amaze to me. you know seeing all the work you are doing and making very up front and -- usable. and not just theoretical. that is a huge part of people's engage am in history and understanding why it is important and why we have to learn history in order to like -- go forward and always look back and see what you learned. it is a growing process.

i appreciate all of it. >> thank you. >> thank you. and let me speak from a point of view that is not reflective from the other commissioners the others come to the table with a lot of dkdzs of great knowledge and great technical experience and great experience in the world of preservation and architect and planning. i do not. so -- to issue with the commissioners is number one intimidating. number 2 i learned a great deal being on this commission but when i try to explain my interest and emphasis about preserving culture and history to people who are like me, it usually falls on a very blank face. you today made it easier for me to take this information and to show people why it is important to really focus in on buildings and districts.

and just to get back to the public comment about cultural districts. we have concern about cultural districts. they are funded through another agency, if i'm correct and over and being over sought by another sea agency which we will be happy to share later. it is very important for us to know in each and every cultural district how funding is spent to preserve and promote culture. getting back to our presentations, thank you for making everything real. thank you for making everything very accessible. i'm excited that now a lot of lay people can get information that was really privileged to the few. that makes me very excited. i think when what some minor comments. when we talk about art. sometimes we miss other cultural

resources. that don't or are not -- specifically or authentically or i don't know -- legalally deal fined as art. things for example on the top of my head china town gate or little sigh gone the fu dogs. those are important to identify a district to cultural neighborhoods i wonder if we could think about how being those believe issue categorized they don't fall to the upper level but are still important and are still and some were hand created by various people. there are some art forms in the buchanan mall that were made by an artist but they are made by elementary or primary sxool children reflected a culture. things like that.

i'd like to encourage to see more and falless in the level of mac community art or cultural art. and then when we talk about plaques, i love this new more modern, clear look of the plaque. i wonder if you can say may be when you are trying to pronote plaque to other to historic designated landmarks the life of the plaque. how this plaque has a certain number of years that to show its value and financial have you limp is a difference when you look at that. and then when you talk about lands marks may be you can make it a more open question about not only proposed lan marks but land marks you think should be to encourage more of a public participation about things that

are may be important in their neighborhoods and they can then learn thou to be educate body how a building or cultural district with become a landmark. >> those were my comments. commissioner nageswaran has a few more comments. >> i wanted say that the bandwidth thing i have seen in recent year system this amazing breath of the diversity of the people doing the work. i think it brings richness, people think differently. they are the groups are self vetting. they look at different aspects of society. they look at thing in different way hallucinogens is exact low what makes a society grow. and upon develop. and -- over the course of

history you see it with women sufferage. growth. and with civil right's, growth. you are setting up so much in what you are doing as an example. to many other jurisdictions to people around the world. and you know it is just amazing and i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> okay. are there more comments from the commission. i don't see more comments. i think this concludes or meeting for today. thank you, again for your great presentation.

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