>> hello, welcome to our september 14 police commission meeting. we thank you for your patience. apologize for being tardy. let's go ahead and get this party started. sergeant, recite the pledge of allegiance, please. >> alright. please rise if you are able for the pledge of

allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> if i can take roll. >> please do. [roll call] >> you have a quorum. also with us tonight is chief william scott from the san francisco police department and chief of staff sara hopkins from department of police accountability and commissioner stone is also with us. >> great. thank you. welcome acting director hawkins. commissioners, call the first item, please. >> line item 1, general public comment. at this

time, the public is welcome to make public comment regarding to address the commission up to 2 minutes for items not on the agenda but within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission. during public comment neither police or perp elnor commissioners are required to respond to but may provide a brief response. comments or opportunities to speak are available by calling 415-655-0001 and enter 24923400575. you may submit public comment e-mail the secretary of the police commission at sfpd commission@(inaudible) postal service to the public safety building located at 1245 third street, san francisco california. if you like to make public comment, please press star 3 now.

good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> hello. my name is david (inaudible) the following is a quote from wealth and disparities. addressing the injustice of black san franciscanss is urgent. i will call this what it is, anti-blackness of use of force, arrests and racial profiling or traffic stops by sfpd. i have grown tired taking this to the police commission, sfpd and board of supervisors. where is the urgency? when are you going to take responsibility and address the harsh bias and unjust statistics. you took a oath to uphold the law for all san franciscanss. i'm tired, not tire enough to quit however tired of beating a

dead horse. we reach out to new sources and sought help from attorney general bota. five out of 9 entities making recommendations for the new traffic stop policy (inaudible) are police including some individual officers. community groups are required to only submit one set per group. the working grouperize not only including police (inaudible) police officers also get their own individual hearings and they are allowed voices in the working group meetings. police officers can also contact commissioners directly and this is not part of the public record. holding private police hearings is not fair nor transparent . (inaudible) commissioners during the working group meetings creating ineffective dynamic and the people doing this were not ammonished. please insure everyone is treated fairly and the police are not

overly advantaged ipthe process. you must answer the concern directly. thank you. >> thank you caller. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> my name is susan buckman and i volunteer with wealth and disparities in the black community. the following is a quote from our founder felicia jones. there is a urgency to address the injustice of black san franciscans. i will call what it is anti-blackness in terms of use of force arrest and racial frofiling and traffic stops by sfpd. i have grown tired talk toog the police commission, sfpd and board of supervisors. where is the urgency? (inaudible) i know there would be urgency. when are you going to take responsibility and address the hash bias and unjust statistics? you took a oath to uphold the law for all san franciscans. i'm tired of beating a dead horse.

(inaudible) working group process is a ciotic one that does not allow for collaboration among those groups of people who volunteered their own time to be involved. we have asked to have a working group meeting set aside to review the first recommendations in depth. this should happen with each step before proceeding. the working group needs a different title. if there is to be no working as a group during the meetings. there is also little to no black community involvement. the commissioners have quick to say how proud they are of the level of openness and transparency they have offered in this process. i would argue that you can hardly ask a starving man to be grateful with you (inaudible) also commissioners have spoken of their experience in drafting dgo5.01 on use of force and all the work that went into it. we

are not made confident by that since that work begun in 2016 and here are in 2022 with anti-black disparities as high as ever. can we expect the (inaudible) >> thank you caller. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> hello, my name is jean bridging. the following is a quote from our founder felicia jones. there is a urgency to address the injustice of black san franciscans. i will call what it is, anti-blackness in terms of use of force, arrest, racial profiling by sfpd. i have grown tired talking to the commission, sfpd and board of supervisors. where is the urgency? if the tables were turned and these statistics represented white folks i know there would be a urgency. when are you go toog take responsibility and address the harsh bias unjust statistics? you took a oath to up hold the law for all san franciscans.

as i said, i'm tired not tire enough to quit but tired beating a dead horse, tired to look for new sources (inaudible) therefore we sought help from attorney general bonta. last week commission meeting featured discussion on the quarter one disparity statistics. a back srfen is 15 times more likely to experience use of force. 10 times likely to be arrested and 5 times as likely to be stopped by a racial profiling. each commissioner made remarks only commissioner burn utilized the racial disparities portion of the meeting for other topics. commissioner burn asked why were not more arrests happening? commissioner burn is the only person during the discussion to not ask once about or even mention racial disparities. utilized time to celebrate having seen more people in the

tenderloin pursued by the sfpd (inaudible) longstanding and continuing racist problems? we would like a answer. thank you. >> thank you caller. that is the end of public comment. >> great. thank you. call the next item, please. >> line item 2, election of commission officer. action. >> thank you. we have a full commission. >> yes. >> yes, i like to make a motion. >> not seeing anyone in the chat. okay. commissioner walker. go ahead commissioner -now they are in the chat. >> i like to make a motion to

elect (inaudible) as president of the commission and commissioner oberstone as vice president. it is honor to work with everyone on the commission. i think acting president for her leadership and think it is time to make that move permanent. >> thank you. commissioner--there is a motion on the floor. can i get a second and i-let me go to commissioner walker first. and then i think-- >> yes. i actually would like to make a motion for larry yee as president and cynthia elias vice president. i worked with commissioner yee a long time in the asian american community. he has done so much work and it is a community that has come to us around their

safety. we have seen a lot of attacks on folks in the asian community and it's the leadership of someone like larry yee can really be a move forward i believe in discussions around solutions, so-and i also really appreciate the leadership of sinda elias. know she is shadowing and helping mentor me in this process and i really appreciate that. >> thank you commissioner walker. i appreciate it. there is already a motion on the floor so we'll deal with that motion and then-get to your motion second. >> thank you. >> no problem. commissioner yanez. >> i like to second commissioner benidicto motion as president and oberstone as vice president.

(inaudible) i love to see her permanently hold this seat moving forward, so i will re-soundingly second the motion. >> thank you commissioner yanez. sergeant, can we take roll call? >> on the motion to elect commissioner elias as president and commissioner oberstone as vice president. [roll call]

>> you have four yeses. >> thank you. hearing that, i think we can take public comment. >> members of the public that would like to make public comment on line ititem 2 election of commission officers please press star 3 now. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> my name is david aronson, i want to support elias as president for the police commission. i have seen her focus more on bias of policing in the black community and other community marginalized communities far more then yee and as that has been a topic that is very important to me and groups i support, i have more trust that

current president elias would make a better president. thank you. >> thank you caller. vice president elias-president elias, there is no more public comment. >> thank you. next item. >> line item 3, chief's report. discussion. weekly crime trends and public safety concerns. provide overview of offenses incidents or events in san francisco having impact on public safety. (inaudible) will be limited to determining whether the calendar for a future meeting. chief scott. >> chief, welcome. thank you for joining us. we see a new backgrown background and smile. sure it is because of the vote. go ahead. >> congratulations, president elias and vice president oberstone. good evening commission. executive director-sorry, chief of staff hawkins, and to the public. i will start my

presentation off with the crime trends for this week starting with the violent crime. we are up 6 percent in total violent crimes. there is-good news, we are down 3 percent in homicides which i'll get to in a second. another highlight is shootings are down overall, but rapes, robberies and assaults are up and i'll get into more detail about that. in terms of property crime, we are up 9 percent overall, and that is lead by larceny which is our biggest category of crime overall. auto burglaries is up 12 percent and burglaries is down 23 percent year to date. in terms of our violent crime i want to go back to the shootings. there is 126 shootings incident that is 145 gun violence victims year to date this year. that

is a decrease from last year which is good news. down 10 percent in the gun violence related homicide. 26 year to date compared to 29 this time last year and total gun violence is down 9 percent. 145 i just reported is below the 159 we had this time last year. our fire arm discoveries are at a total of 729 year to date and of that 129 of those guns-about where we were last year, but overall fire arm recoveries are little above what we were this time last year. i also want to report on some of what is happen in the tenderloin in terms of the efforts to arrest the drug dealers working in theteneder loin area. we have 371 possession for sale bookings this year and we have seized over 68

thousand grams of total narcotics and of that, 39.148 are fentanyl. focus is fentanyl as we are told that is where the leading the overdose surge in san francisco, so that has been our focus. we are two homicides for this reporting period. one in the 600 block of larch that occurred the shooting occurred 9-6-2022. 7 p.m. the victim passed away this past week. in that case the officer responded to several shots (inaudible) no victims located but several vehicles damaged by bullets. shortly after (inaudible) couple vehicles that arrived at sfgh including one with a individual who had

sustained a gun shot wound to his head and in critical condition and this past week that victim did not survive the injuries and pronounced. that investigation is still ongoing. there are follow up and we will keep you all posted as we make progress on that investigation. there was a establishing homicide on september 10 at 6 a.m. 624 a.m. there were no witnesses and private video footage was provided to officers for review. it shows two males in a fight during which one fell to the ground and later succumbed to injuries. the second subject pled in the vehicle and that subject was detained by officers and there is enough information developed to arrest the suspect for that particular homicide. the investigation is still ongoing but there is a arrest in that case. there were 3

shootings insdants during this reporting period. the first is (inaudible) on september 6, 2022 at 853 a.m. the victim was with two other people inside of a residents and one of the people grabbed the victims pants which contained a large sum of money. the subject fired a shot and struck the victim injured at the scene and the victim was transported and the injuries are not life threatening. the investigation is ongoing and no arrests made. september 10, 835 there was a shooting at 5th and natoma in the southern district. the last was in the southern. the victim approached by a unknown subject asking for change. the subject brandished the hand gun and when the victim did not hand over the money a shot was fired and victim struck. those injuries are not life threatening. that investigation is still ongoing, no arrests at this

point. the last shooting to report is one that occurred in 500 block of (inaudible) in bayview september 11 at 410 a.m. the victim and the friends and family members were at a jack in the box on bay shore boulevard when the victim got into a argument with a unknown person. the short time later the victim told officers he was sitting in his veem when he was shot. that is also under investigation and there is evidence to follow up on so we'll keep the commission posted on those particular shoot ings. there was a pretty significant stunt driving event saturday night into the morning hours of sunday at 6 and harrison at 145 a.m. involving 200 to 300 spectators and a number vehicles. the vehicles were (inaudible) with officers and stunt driving response unit. some vehicles went fled on the 101 and others traveled to other parts of the

city. at 209 a.m. an event reported at van ness and pine report gun shots. units responded broke up the group and vehicles left at a high rate of speed down pine and (inaudible) driving against traffic. two people were injured and hit and run and transported to the hospital with miner injuries. (inaudible) proceeded into the mission district speeding in the neighborhood and they tried to set up another location to have a stunt driving event. units arrived, drove around and monitored the various hot spots and monitored the groups and they broke that up. group headed to the bay bridge and 330 a.m. units reported a large group of cars in the bay bridge actively involved in a stunt driving event. they stopped traffic, chp were notified and they responded to help break that up. our stunt driving response unit was

activated. they were very busy that night and want to remind the public and anybody who participate, just because you may have gotten away it, it is not over. we will continue to investigate. i think we are up to 39 cars this year or since we started doing the investigations after the fact, so you will be held accountable if we have the evidence and we will continue to pursue these vehicles and we will seize them if the evidence is there that you were involved in these dangerous events. districate strategies (inaudible) community complaints and concerns regarding ongoing issues with illegal vending in the area of 15 and mission, 24 and mission have resulted in a plan that includes a multi-disciplinary plan with the police department, public works and others and basically going after the illegal vending, particularly with stolen property. officers have been involved in these

operations and are when the evidence is there citing and seizing evidence so that would be ongoing. there are many many community complaints about this issue and we are trying to get arms wrapped around this. working with supervisor ronen's office with a lot of involvement from members of the community so that is a ongoing strategy to promote (inaudible) the park district the issues are car break ins particularly in the twin peak area so we assigned extra patrols as staffing allows. that made a difference in the past. it is just a matter of being able to consistently staff and particularly the (inaudible) which again very very effective in twin peaks in terms of reducing car break-ins. that will continue as staffing allows us to do that. no reported hate crimes this week. there were two fatal

trafening collisions unfortunately. the first was hit and run at 5th and bryant. vehicle versus pedestrians on 9-6 at 531 a.m. a passing vehicle (inaudible) mid-block between bryant and harrison. hospital staff (inaudible) advised the victim had severe injuries and could be the victim of a vehicle collision. the victim succumbed to injuries later. that investigation is on going. the another one is vehicle (inaudible) lum bard and (inaudible) september 8 at 528. the vehicle traveling lumbard struck the pedestrians. the pedestrian succumbed to the injuries and the investigation is ongoing to determine which party was at fault.

(inaudible) couple follow-up items from last week. the barricades around mission station have been removed and that is verified so the barricades are no longer there. thank the member of the public that called and made an issue about that. we have taken those barricades down. and the last thing to report is the status update on the mou the officer involved shooting with the dist rict attorney office. the work is ongoing with the judge who is the arbitrator in the case with the police department and da. the extension has been extended to october 17 and we will report back as this develops. there is still a mou in place for the public and commission who want to know that specific answer. and that concludes my report. >> thank you chief. just a couple questions. what is taking so long with the mou? my understanding when

you first reported it there were tweaks that needed to be made to the agreement, but it has been more then 6 months and-do we anticipate in october what will happen or can we get a little more clarity on that? >> absolutely. definitely there was a delay with the change of administration in the district attorney office. the entire teams changed hands. they had to get up to speed. we had several meetings with the arbitrator to get everybody up to speed and get them what they needed to get up to speed and so that has all been done and we are moving quite well now, but that did cause a delay. they were not able to actually even get the documents for the first couple weeks, so now that they are up to speed with everything that happened prior to the administration coming on board, we are moving along. >> did you have it go back to the drawing board once they

became up to speed or starting square 1 or-? >> not starting square 1. they were given everything that happened prior to them coming aboard. they have their own assessment what needs to be changed. (inaudible) there needed to be revisions to the mou and actually from the other perspective as well, so they wanted to assess for themselves and they have done that and moving along and having discussions with the arbitrator. >> do you think by october 16 you will have a signed mou or another continuance? >> we are working as hard as we can and very hopeful. i think we made good progress. it isn't all up to the police department. we are working together on it. >> alright. i will turn it over to (inaudible) i don't see anyone in the chat.

commissioner carter oberstone. >> hi. chief. good evening. i know i should know the answer to this and you told us this before, so i apologize. can you remind us what happens [audio cutting in and out] legacy mou. is the (inaudible) >> yeah. you are breaking up a little bit but i think i heard your question. yes, the mou in place still is the order of the day, and i think we had

one officer involved shooting which actually was handled by the california department of justice. two, actually. no, one mou-since we have been in this process and there are other incidents where we called the district attorney on covered incidents so that mou is still active until we negotiate the current mou. >> great. thank you. >> yes, sir. thank you. congratulations. >> thanks. >> thank you. commissioner walker. >> thank you. chief scott, i have a couple of questions about the traffic issues or the incidents that happened with the multiple vehicles and side shows. i know there was one in my neighborhood as well and on top of the letter we received from the board that they are looking at traffic

management issues, sort of big picture, and we are also looking at our pre-text stop reform, it seems like we need to get them all together to-i dont want to slow things down, but it's really likely that movement on any of these things effect everything else and so i am just wondering if you're sort of looking at this in a big picture way to make sure we get this right around traffic enforcement and you know, doing reforms that are necessary to make it a fair application as well as the fact that we have not enough officers doing it and all of these ancillary things that effect it and create dangerous situations on the streets. i think all things are true. can you talk to us about that? are you sort of coordinating things together?

>> yeah, thank you for that question. yes, all of the considerations with our revision of (inaudible) traffic enforcement general order our strategies particularly the side shows. we are much much better off in terms of our response then we were a year, year and a half ago, but there is still-it is really hard to get our hands around. to answer your question, yes. i do think the commission and commissioner carter oberstone have been in these conversations are very thoughtful about getting input to really-best we can do this and understanding about what the consequences or unintentional or otherwise would be with the general order-some of the proposed changes. those discussions (inaudible) as we go. as you know (inaudible) and we'll continue to have those discussions and give

the commission the best information we can from our perfective to make informed decision on this policy. but they do touch each other, you are absolutely right. they do touch each other and we want to make sure we are thoughtful about that and meanwhile the side show is a separate issue from regular traffic enforcement. these things are so unpredictable and sometimes we know they are coming because of our relationships with boardering agency but to be consistent we wanted a response model and leadership out there at the hours they normally happen so we can respond as quickly as possible because that was part of the community complaints in the past is sometimes just takes us so long to assemble the resources and it is still a lift, but our response is much better and we are much better at breaking them up and the work we are doing after the fact hopefully will send a message. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you.

commissioner yee. >> thank you very much madam chair and congratulations to you and vice president carter oberstone. chief, i have looking at shootings, compared 2021 to 2022. september to significant drop compared to last year and probably the lowest month to date on there looks like. looking at the homicide rates, we have done well in the tenderloin. dropped down significant, but the mission district has rise along with ingleside and bayview is still up there. i wonder what is your strategy maybe bringing some of these districts that are seeing this significant rise in homicide and what is your thoughts on

it, chief? >> yes, sir. one thing that we are very hopeful that we'll continue to develop and i think we have gotten value from this is our gun violence reduction strategy that was centered in the bayview. on top of enforcement that is life coaching and the services and community safety meetings and community engagement that happens beheend the scenes to get to some of these incidents that are potentially retaliatory. i believe we have had success. i believe there is good working relationships with key community stakeholders there. i know specifically of incidents where it could have turned volatile because so many people outside the police department (inaudible) that we didn't at least not yet haven't had some of what we thought would be very volatile retaliatory incident so hats off to people in the

community for doing that work and being able to work with us. the plan, the strategy is expand with this recent award of $6 million grant, this particular cohort we plan to expand the work in the mission. we are not there yet. we still have the-the grant allows us to hire more people, more analyst and the like to really get that work going and we had setbacks because we lost people and have to rehire and all that that were involved in this work but we have the funding and we have the roadmap for the structure and as we continue to build out in district 10, the southeast area the plan before the 3 years is up for the grant is expand that in the mission. those life coaches, we got to get those revamped. we lost some. we have some in the pipeline. we have the funding to hire them. not we the police department but the non profits we are working with, so

we are all in this together and i think that strategy will hopefully pay dividends. i believe that is part of the resource and the other part, there is resource component. hopefully we will be able to say whether this was successful or not because there is a research component in the grant so those are all good things and steps in the right direction. >> i just wndering about the (inaudible) 6 to 1. i dont know if that's a anomaly or that's just one specific incident where you have so many homicides in ingleside. >> not necessarily anomaly. not all are connected but we believe there is connection to some of not only the homicides but other shootings that happened in ingleside and into the bayview. long standing beefs and long standing relationships and that is why

this work is so important to get the right people involved and trying to broken peace and get people to the table to lay down the guns for lack of better way to put this. some of these are related we believe. >> thank you very much chief. >> thank you commissioner. >> thank you. commissioner- >> thank you president elias. congratulations. couple of questions chief. on the july 20meeting wediscussed on agenda item about enforcement of the tenderloin of community policing grants received by the departments specifically for the tender erloin that you said would last about a month. you mentioned there was data collection and reporting component and i want to follow up to see what the data collection reporting outcome was of the strategies

used at (inaudible) in the tenderloin. >> that got extended commissioner and i think it got extended until next month. i'll verify that and report back next week. it was extended. that is for sure. at the end of that extension period we will have the data ready. i can tell you the engagement with the open air drug usage has increased expotentially and we sat down with some of the harm reduction groups to really try to talk through as much as we can work together. want to be clear, the harm reduction is not a bad thing. i think where the rubber meets the road here is we still have to deal with the open air usage of drugs and we can't allow this to continue to happen in our city the way it is happening without any consequences, so we are working, we had

conversations with some of the harm reduction advocacy groups and i believe where there is common ground is we all believe that something needs to be done to disincentivize using in public spaces, and we are going to continue our enforcement in terms of open air usage. somebody has clean syringe or clean pipe or paraphernalia that doesn't have a substance in it, that is not illegal, but if they are using in public, that is still illegal and if they are smoking fentanyl in public that is illegal and the parafunealia loaded with fentanyl we will (inaudible) we have to curb the open air usage so it increased significantly during the grant period and we plan to be consistent to just change the culture. it isn't okay to do that, and i dont think there is disagreement about that. we just have to figure ways to work

together and address the individual harm reduction but also address the harm to the community. people have to step over this and see this, so that is the balance we are trying to work with others to achieve. >> thank you chief. i look forward to the data with the grants. in reviewing when i look at information for the grant i saw at the same july 20commission meeting we mentioned at that time the extension to the mou after the (inaudible) district attorney brook jenkins and 30 days from them was august so was there additional extension while on recess? >> yes,ing and just to give context, we want to keep urgency on this. that is why the extensions are incremental. before that extension expired we agreed to extend to

october 17 so there was not a period where we did not have a mou in place. >> okay. i know that meeting you were also hopeful that was the only extension we would need so hoping this extension will be that since there is a lot of extensions for the mou. (inaudible) >> nob we are trying to get it right and issues raised or issues we believe can be corrected with clear language and that is what we are working on. >> thank you chief. that is all i have. >> thank you. >> thank you. commissioner yanez. >> thank you president elias. chief, good to see you again. thank you for following up on the issue with the barrier at mission station. i walked by there every day and let me just tell you, it looks a lot more accessible just with that one barrier having gone down and it is actually a little

you know, kind of mind-boggling to believe it was up there as long as it has been since the protesting subsided years ago, but glad that is out of the way. it was a blemish on the neighborhood and beautiful station. i do want to ask a little about-really happy to hear that you feel that there is a positive impact in the bayview district with the resources and the street intervention work happening there and happy to hear there is expansion into the mission district because we have had string of incidents that are very concerning to the community and i wanted to ask if there are existing groups that are going to be engaged to be able to roll this out. we know every district, every community kind of functions differently. there is a huge infrastructure of service provision agencies in the mission district and i like to get your thoughts about how to not re-create the wheel. we had street outreach

intervention successes in the past and i like to know how some of those previous successful histories will be embedded, incorporated or inform how the work will take place with the funds in the mission district. >> i think you just said it probably better then i can. we really do want to tap into all that knowledge and relationships that are already built and if they are able-when we do expand when some of those groups if they are able and have the capacity to take that work on that is who we will reach out to. there (inaudible) if we can get those-we are not there yet, but there are several groups that we work with and familiar with and know the community and have the relationships necessary, so the question is whether they have the life coaching capacity we are talking about

so we can work with those at risk in that way. but that is what we intend to do. that just makes sense to do it that way in our opinion. >> is there a tentative timeline for the process or the implementation phase of the work that will be done? >> well, two things that have to happen. we lost director (inaudible) to the da. she was managing the grants, we are in the process of replacing her, but we also (inaudible) were awarded positions and we are in the process of hiring those folks. one person has already been hired. we are extending office to others, i think three total people this grant allows us to hire to support that part thof work. we the police department have to be in a position to support that part of the work because we are the

coordinator, and so that is in progress right now. once we do that we can get to the-overall we have to get this started but we have to have this in place before the end of three years so we can get it started. because of the personnel changes it was somewhat a setback and as soon as we get people in place i think we are moving forward, so i would like to report back because i can't really give you a solid timeline until we get people in place. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great. thank you. sergeant, can we move to public comment, please? >> at this time the public is welcome to make public comment regarding the chief's report. if you like to make comment press star 3 now.

good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> hi, there. david aronson again. just a couple comments on the report and some of the discussion. first of all, i agree wholeheartedly there needs to be urgency put against getting the new mou in place between sfpd and da office on excessive use and police shootings. that agreement has been in limbo for a while. glad to hear that there is something existing but it do need to get something new in place and soon. i also like to state that higher rates of drug imprisonment do not translate to lower rates of dug use. we spend a lot of money and we put people in prison for a long time based on this. it cost the taxpayers a ton of money while alternative such as drug course and stronger community supervision have proven more effective. putting drug

violators behind (inaudible) i agree this theses are a problem but more ruts and more imprisonment is not the answer. thank you. >> thank you caller. president elias, that is the end of public comment. >> thank you. next item, please. >> line item 4, dpa director's report. discussion. report on recent dpa activities and announcement. limited to determining whether to calendar the issues raised for future meeting. >> good evening to the newly elected president, vice president, commissioners chief scott and members of the public. i'm filling in for director henderson. we'll start with the staff. we have opened 474 cases this year. we closed 507 cases. we

have 247 openpeneding cases. at this point we sustained 48 cases. mediated 16 cases and we have 25 cases that are past the 270 day mark. of those 25, 16 are closed. we have 10 cases pending with the commission, 86 pending with the chief. we have changed what the number we are reporting on represents. previously only reported son the first level where woe provided the case to the chief for the initial level of review, now we are reporting on cases in various stages including pending chief hearings and additional procedures along that path. last week the number was 90 and this week 86. the last week we received 7 new cases. the top allegations were failure to

take required action, knowingly engageic in bias policing or discrimination, failure to comply with the general order 5.04 and behaving or speaking in a inappropriate manner. last week we reported on a update with regard to outreach involving the materials at the stations and i reported that we were working with the station captains to insure they had all our materials. we have replinshed the materials that have been needed to be replinshed when asked. commissioner asked if we put our faq out with the information and we are working to decide what the best way is. i don't know including the faq at the stations is the best way so one idea is on the complaint forms adding a link and qr code that if they pick

up the brochure can go to the faq so we are still working on that. it is a priority for us and we will keep you up to date on that. we have two cases in closed session. the senior investigator here tonight is chris (inaudible) as always you can find more information on our website, sf gov.org/dpa or call. i'll sure i'll have more to say about agenda items this evening but that concludes our report for this week. >> thank you. director or act ing director hawkins, i think for the 86 cases we also asked and director henderson to provide the timeline for the cases if there were any past the 9 month mark. do you have those stats? >> my understanding was that the department and dpa were going to work together to kind of update the document which lives in a joint share

point and we did get updated information from sfpd shortly before this meeting and didn't have time to further drill down on that, so i'm happy to do that with the department prior to next commission defining what the timelines are. i know the information that was provided by the department shortly before the meeting does have the dates but i didn't have time to go through and categorize what was past the 9 month mark. >> i saw we did receive that like 30 minutes before the meeting started. i guess chief i forgot to ask in the chief report, but i saw your hand being raised. >> commissioner, yes we have the information as far as the status of all those. we didn't get it in time-we can do a verbal and that is the plan to report verbally or put it in a

presentation but this is just the status where they are and where they are sitting and think when you hear what commander is reporting you will get a understanding why. your question was why is so high- >> i dont like blindsiding people and not fair to get a document 30 minutes before so i want to give dpa the opportunity to review the document and be able to articulate their interpretation of the document as well as have your or have you present on it so i will ask to agendize it next week then. if you can make sure all the updated numbers and information is sent to dpa and dpa if you with work with the chief to get the information and present to the commission and give more information on the cases and timeperiod that would be helpful.

>> absolutely. >> great. that is all the questions i have. i will turn over to fellow commissioners. >> i don't have anything for (inaudible) >> sorry, i just see initials in the chat. commissioner yanez, anything? commissioner walker? okay. commissioner yee? commissioner burn? okay. vice president carter oberstone? can we go to public comment? you lucked out director hawkins. [laughter] >> at this time the public is welcome to make public comment. if you like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. president elias, there is no public comment. >> great. thank you. next item, please. >> line item 5, commission reports. discussion. commission reports is limited

to brief description of activities junouncements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calen any issues raised for future commission meeting. commission president report, commissioner reports and commission announcement and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting. action. >> thank you. not much to report other then we will be agendizing the surveillance issue on the agenda. hoping to get it on before the commission next week. i dill coauthor a letter with commissioner beni dicto regarding the legislation before the board of supervisors and how it will effect the dgo we are working on and in the hopper that need to be revised. and more importantly, the outcomes, the racial disparities this ledgeilation and consequences of the legislation may have unintentionally and so those were some of the concerns that i raised and so again, i ask to

have it agendized for full commission to have a robust discussion is qu updated by the department. we haven't received updates on that just yet. i think that is all that we-the other thing is next week also we hope to have more information on the status of it dgo, particularly i think the 26 or 28 chief you mentioned last week. i know you gave updates but i will ask to have those updates provided next week to the public and fellow commissioners. that is all i have to report. i will turn it over to vice president carter oberstone. >> nothing for me. >> thank you. commissioner walker. >> thank you. i forgot to congratulate you. you both. >> i appreciate. >> it will be a pleasure working with you.

>> check back next week to see- >> (inaudible) one day at a time. >> exactly. >> so, i-there is a couple things, because we received i believe a communication regarding one of the supervisors putting forward sf recovers to actually bring the collaboration of all of the agencies who are working the front line around drug use and drug sales in the streets. to you point, i think there is a really vivid and urgent issue in getting it right so we make sure we have the programming to snd folks to respond to a

caller. i don't think anyone is thinking of arresting people for drug use. i think it is really seeing if we can encourage people into treatment and sort of recovery around that. it is sort fits into what i have been working on and wanted to focus on around coordinating so i would be happy to help work on that issue if you are looking for someone to try and (inaudible) it seems to match with what i'm already working on with trying to get information about (inaudible) what other of these street safety groups are doing within each district to make sure we are efficient with that. i also want to say it was really a real wonderful and educational experience. we went to participate in some of the scenario trainings

today with the groups doing active shooter trainings and are scenarios. i went with commissioner benidicto. really really helpful and sort of getting a picture of how-what the things happen on the street there, so i am sure commissioner benidicto will say but i appreciate the departments hosting us and sort of watching. we were not participating, we were trying to stay out of the way, but just experiencing these kind of scenarios are really helpful and sort of understanding what really goes on. i think that's all for now, but thank you. >> no, thank you commissioner walker and thank you for your support and volunteering to shepherd that issue forward. i think that is a great idea and i think vice president

carter oberstone had a great idea asking commissioners to start being assigned to certain dgo and helping shepherd them through because it appears that when the commissioners is involved and able to help shepherd it throw it seems to go faster and doesn't get lost in the abyss and stays on the radar so great suggestion and encourage fellow commissioners to think about which dgo they would like to work on to get assignments going and get these things shepherd through in a more efficient and expedited fashion. there is 26, 28 on the stagnant list we can choose from and 20 more in the hopper as well so i guess we'll start with those. thank you commissioner walker. commissioner burn. >> nothing to report. congratulations. >> thank you. commissioner yee. >> thank you madam chair. just want to report out to

visit department of emergency management 911 center and it was great to see i guess the exectsk director mary ellen carols and deputy director robby smith showing me around and i thank dispatchers and their team for excellent work and the stress they go through on a daily basis, 24/7 and keeping us and the city safe as all these calls do come in. i can see the calls backing up. they are a, b and c, so i they are lucky the only issues they are facing is attrition. as other 911 centers throughout the 9 county bay area also is picking up some of the work which is the pay is

pretty equal to us, so something we may have to take a look at going forward. also, want to congratulate honorees receiving the-award ceremony on november 10 so hope everybody can come as more will come i'm sure from sergeant youngblood. thank you very much. >> thank you commissioner yee and commissioner yanez. >> thank you president elias. i only have one item i wanted to make-raise and possibly calendar for future reference, there has been an article of some information brought to me as far as comment made by a part-time officer working in

the department making some social media comments that were very disturbing to say the least, and i know that-i don't know the chief has any comments on whether there was any follow-up or any type of investigation as a result of the comments that were posted on social media, but i think it behooves us to visit the social media policy. i know i raised the issue before if we are to really address the bias challenges we have with policing in san francisco, we can follow the lead of other jurisdictions and begin to monitor people's social media private social media. i know that is the contentious issue, but i would like to have a full conversation about how we can bolster what we have, which is very very limited right now, so i like to first ask

the chief if he has any comments on it and if he doesn't i like to have a formal conversation about this agendized. >> may i answer? >> certainly. >> yes. there is internal affairs investigation on that commissioner, and definitely i know that issue about our policy and revision s of the policy has been raised, so that is in the works. there definitely are first amendment legal questions that need to be discussed, but yes, in the works and there is a investigation on that comment. >> thank you for the update and i definitely do want to be involved in whatever work groups or any way shape or form for me to insert myself in the process of providing the policy because it is of interest. thank you. >> great. thank you.

we'll have sergeant youngblood note that for internal matrix. did i miss commissioners? commissioner benidicto. the best for last. >> thank you president elias. i are want to report we are continuing our outreach on the efforts to provide dgo9.01 governing traffic stops with community outreach. the members of the public are invited to continue to e-mail the commission e-mail address as well as fill outthe survey produced by the human rights commission. thank the human rights commission for assistance. as reminder, the next public listening town hall for the general order is september 20 5:30 p.m. at bayview opera house. there will be commissioners present there. next as noted she and i drafted a letter regarding the

surveillance ordinance as well and also spoke at the rules committee hearing where it passed 2 to 1 with (inaudible) if it pass the full board of supervisors i look forward working with the department on implementation to insure we are actively monitoring how the new ordinance will be implemented. i know president elias mentioned we would agendize for full commission discussion. i ask that we do that possibly in october as i noted it in the public comment to the rules committee despite being under consideration for a number of months there is yet to be hearing with experts on the ordinance and in discussion with multiple experts who are willing to testify before police commission hear ing to provide views from the expert academic perspective but probably need more then a week to line up the schedules. last, as commissioner walker said, she and i

attended a saw nario active attacker training. educational and very helpful. want to commend our field tactic force option unit. (inaudible) and officer woods. (inaudible) unit is something that all san franciscans should be proud of. best practice around critical mindset and critical thinking training and developed successful training programs under that unit-in fact, the news by sfpd is certified by post to be used by ort deerment pas departments in the state so grateful able to accommodate (inaudible) and not hit us too badly (inaudible) director walker got unscathed and got hit in the leg

twice. i will not take it personally. >> those things are intense. unless you go through them and you really-the scenario when i got on the commission did the same thing and it really does-you have no idea until you go through the simulation and all of the adrenaline and emotions going through as you it happens and i think i was killed in every scenario. too scared to use the gun, so-but my counterpart did not suffer that fate. they are very real and very intense. >> can i just add on to that? the staff was amazing and all those in the training and you know, i just want to say that i support more and more training because i think that everybody out there really loved

that. as you do in the budget, not that i'm trying to influence you, training is key. >> definitely. okay. i think-also too, sorry, commissioner benidicto i think the next working group isn't at the opera house. they were not able to accommodate us so we are still looking for a community space in the bayview for our next working group and i believe- >> the listening session hosted by hrc (inaudible) >> sorry. >> (inaudible) >> that is true. we should have had her do the negotiations for the working group. sorry about that. can we go to public comment, please? >> members of the public that like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. good evening caller, you have two minutes.

>> hello commissioner, david aronson again. i want to thank commissioner walker for addressing my comment. i believe chief scott said in the report if someone had a clean needle nothing is done but if there is parafunealia action would be taken so concerned that would be a arrest or incarceration. i not i lake to understand what action chief scott was referring to that would be taken and if the police commission would take that up at some point, i would love it hear what that is. and also congratulations president elias and vice president carter oberstone. thank you. >> thank you. >> president elias, that is the end of public comment. >> great. thank you so much. i appreciate it. next item. >> line item 6, presentation regarding disciplinary cases remandsed to the chief of police 2020 to the present cht discussion. >> thank you sergeant

youngblood. good evening. glad to hear you survived the academy training. i know it isn't easy. congratulations commission president elias and commission vice president carter oberstone. good eeksening chief scott, acting director hawkins and members of the public. tonight i will be presenting to you the status of discipline cases that have been remanded back to the chief of police, and we do have a powerpoint of course. a short one. >> we love powerpoints here so bring it on. >> i don't disappoint. the timeframes that i will be covering are from 2020 to present. the purpose of the presentation is discuss the process, disposition and outcome of the cases remanded from the police commission to the chief of police. what i

hope to cover is what happens when the police commission decides to remand a discipline case to the chief of police. i will cover that topic in more detail in my next slide. also couple key points to get out of the way immediately. the chief of police makes final determinations and dispositions for 10 cases remanded back to the department from the time i mentioned, 2020 to present. when that happens the legal division which is in the risk management office determines if those cases are releasable per sb1421 and sb16. okay, as promised the process. so, when the commission remands a discipline case back to the chief of police, the former member or member is notified and afforded a 30 day opportunity to provide a

written response. the internal affairs division prepares and complete the investigation including a summary for the chief of police to review regarding the pending allegations. the chief makes a final determination of the disposition of the allegations. the internal affairs division closes the case with the chief of police's final determination. the legal division then as mentioned earlier reviews the case and compiles-sorry, complies with the records release requirements under sb1421 and sb16. the accused member is provided with notice if the record is released. here was the breakdown of the cases that i mentioned. the first column is the case number. really it is the tracking number that is used by either dpa or

iad. the second column is the date that the commission remanded the case back to the department. the third column is the chief's determination based on the process i just spoke of. finally, the last column is our preliminary or legal division determination if that information is releasable under sb1421. there is two slides-i talked about 10 cases, there is multiple allegation for certain members, so you will see more then 10 incidents in these slides. i will give you a moment to review the first slide and then sergeant youngblood if we can move to the second slide.

okay, i know that was a lot of information to look at for this presentation. i am available for any questions. >> thank you commander. i appreciate the presentation and real ea appreciate you taking the time to explain it to the fellow commissioners and the public. i think that transparency is really key and i really want to congratulate you and your department for the work that you have been doing and trying to make the information available and more transparnt to the public so i appreciate that. i also appreciate your efforts in helping continue the investigation. chief, i wanted it give you a

opportunity to chime in before i turn it over to fellow commissioners. >> you pretty much what i would say. this was all about transparency. when the commission directed this about 2 years ago or so and we had never done this before, so i (inaudible) transparency is in my opinion a huge part of earning the public trust. i know these cases don't stop when a member or separation from the department and which ever way they separate so cases are-the investigations are completed and it is important for the public to know that. >> i think there are more (inaudible) have this on a quarterly or maybe even semi-annual basis to give the public a update. probably should be quarterly since the (inaudible) report is quarterly as well, but we can talk about that. >> yes, thank you.

>> alright. commissioner-i see walker raising her hand. not sure kevin are you- >> i (inaudible) >> sorry. commissioner walker. >> thank you. thank you chief. i have a question i just want to sort of understand the releaseability determination. what goes into the determination of yes or no there? >> i will start and follow through if i have anything. (inaudible) has strict criteria on what is mandated to be released and a lot of work went into that. i believe commissioner elias at the time and commissioner (inaudible) worked with the department and dpa and our council city council, city attorney office to come up with a protocol of how we were going to address and have a process of what can

be released. this involves a lot in the process and we basically compare this to what the law mandates and if it is releasable criteria we release it. >> great. maybe i could ask the secretary to send me a copy or link to the sb1421 if you have it, so i can just be familiar with those criteria. that would be great. >> that is a excellent point commissioner walker. just so you know, i helped commissioner (inaudible) draft 1421 and our policy which mirrors the penal code section and what will be ajndized, we had to revise 1421 to include the new sb14 which added additional categories so that will be ajndized soon but we will get the 1421 policy. >> thank you. >> any other

commissioner? nope. great. sergeant, public comment, please. >> commissioner walker i'll send you the policy after the meeting. members of the public that would like to make public comment please press star 3 now. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> hello, president elias, vice president carter oberstone, commissioner, chief (inaudible) the 15 cases within the chief's report include description of the chief determination and the preliminary sb1421 information. two items on the bottom page 4, (inaudible) and iad20190070. each have a sustained allegation of (inaudible) the allegations (inaudible) subject to public disclosure

under sb1421 yet the determination seems to say these cases are not subject topublic disclosure. it is striking and must be because the officers were found to have been dishonest about their investigation which sb1421 omits conduct the public should know about. (inaudible) misconduct investigation. i hope commander yets can confirm that is the reason those records are not discloseable and if not they will be released soon and the officers sought employment in another community and those agencies deserve to know. thank you. >> thank you caller. >> was that your hand? sorry. >> i move-i didn't put my hand up but i will respond. we do have a attorney on staff that does review these cases along with a lieutenant, so

i will insure the caller that we will rereview that case to insure that we are in compliance with sb1421. >> commander can you also clear that with the sit a attorney? i know the attorney is your internal attorney at the police department but i think it would be beneficial and think you normally do this, speak with mrs. cabrera the city attorney on these kind of cases, so also if you can follow up with her as well or mr. (inaudible) from the city attorney office. >> absolutely. thanks. >> thank you. sergeant was that the last public comment? >> that was it. >> line item 7 presentation from internal affairs division regarding bias findings from the last 5 years. discussion. >> greetings, me again, and greetings again. this next presentation just waiting for it to come up.

>> you are on a powerpoint roll over there. >> i'll do as many as you like. it sounds like from the last comments you will be seeing more of me. at least quarterly. this presentation is on internal affairs division findings of potential bias. we are going to cover 2019 to present and i know that a more extended length of time was requested, but this was the best we could do for this presentation. i apologize up front for that. the purpose of this presentation is to provide a summary of review of known internal affairs cases containing a component of potential bias and the investigative findings. aim is a case management system that our office uses. it is actually acronym for

administrative investigations management. that is the program. we included a potential bias field which allows for the capacity to track cases containing a component of potential bias. our division, iad is actually in the process of manually reviewing and identifying really past cases i should say here, using aim to track cases that may contain components of bias. to date, we only have done a limited review identifying cases between 2019 to present. i say limited, i think we have a pretty complete review from that timeframe but at this point i couldn't tell you it is comprehensive. later in the presentation will provide a list of

these cases. i have good news. simultaneously, iad for the past few months has been working with the department of public accountability and controller office. they have been completing a audit which we'll include a review of internal affairs cases, actually on this topic that contain components of potential bias and findings of bias. so, we actually just concluded months of work with them, so i hope that in the future with the release of that report that you will get the information you requested with the timeframe you requested and it will be comprehensive. that is really good timing in that you actually asked for this report and we have already been working on it outside this request with dpa and the controller's office.

okay. of 22 cases identified, which contain components of potential bias since 2019, but i think this was the question asked. 12 of those originated from internal affairs division quarterly bias report i report to this commission. those 22 cases we know, 12 cases originated from that report. the other 10 came from complaints internally or externally. on this topic, i also want to mention additionally that beginning january 1, 2023, mention another set of bills senate bill 2, the department will be required to report cases involving serious misconduct which includes containing allegations demonstrating bias to the california peace officer's standards

and training. okay. so, these are the actual 22 cases that i alluded to. in the first column is also the case tracking number or case number as it's titled. the second column is indicateing whether we were alerted of the bias from the bias audit or from another source. the third column is the bias finding, yes or no. third is the investigative findings, which are the allegations and the dispositions. so, i'll pause so you can review this slide and there are actually three slides total detailing

these cases. >> commander yip, the case number is the case the iaa has and investigating and then originated from the bias audit, meaning it came from the aim? i wasn't clear about the aim. >> the bias audit, the one we automatically internally do--(inaudible) >> right. >> electronic devices. >> okay. that has a long list. it is a secret you have of buzz words you put in the system and searches the department e-mails and phones to see if any of those buzz words come up and then you-the investigation begins, right? >> that is correct. the question we wanted to

answer tonight is of the bias potential bias cases we have, how many originated from that automatic audit and then how many others do we have from other sources. >> what is the potential bias finding, whatdize that mean? >> after the investigator reviews the actual case and the specifics of the case, we will make a determination if there was actual bias or we feel there is potential bias from reviewing the specifics of the case. >> okay. >> i'll govern -give you a example. not specific to anything you are seeing now. there's a word that's a very famous cookie. a type of cookie that is in our electronic bias list. when the investigator reviewed that particular case to

look for bias, it was the cookie was used in context that you would only think it is used being a cookie so they made a determination it was not a potential bias finding. i don't know if i used the best example, but that came to mind. >> that is good. sorry to interrupt the presentation. i'll save my questions to the end . >> there are 3 slides with those findings or the information that is presented. i don't have a slides or visual but i will give you a verbal answer on a question also presented that i was asked to speak to and that's regarding-it was a question about the race and are gender make-up of the officers from close internal affairs cases for quarter 1 of 2022 so i want to address that. as a

bonus i actually have the data from quarter 2 of 2022 so i'll give you both. we'll incorporate the dt data in the quarterly iad report to the commission. in quarter 1, 2022, there were 46 cases were closed cases on members. in those 46 cases, there were 143 allegations. more allegation then cases. in quarter 1, the racial breakdown, 59 allegations or 41 percent were for white officers. 32 allegations were 22 percent were for asian or pacific islander

officers. 25 allegations or 18 percent were closed for hispanic officers. 17 allegations or 12 percent were closed for black officers. and then 10 allegations or 7 percent i say the category other for now. okay. and then in the same quarter 1, 2022, i will address the gender question. of the 143 allegations, 98 or 68 percent were from male officers. 41 allegations or 29 percent, female officers. 4 allegations, 3 percent other. i will give you the same data for quarter 2 of 2022.

51 cases and 182 allegations. from there, 72 allegations or 40 percent involved white officers. 49 allegations or 27 percent involve asian or pacific islander officers. 34 allegations or 19 percent involve hispanic officers. 17 allegations or 9 percent involve black officers. 9 allegations or 5 percent i put as other. same quarter, same number of cases same allegations by gender. 145 allegations or 80 percent were male officers. 29

allegations or 16 percent, female officers. 8 allegations or 4 percent, other. >> sorry, commander, what was the male? >> quarter 2 of 2022 it was 145 allegations or 80 percent. i apologize we got this information-we had to crunch the numbers with a analyst and were not able to do it in time to post, so you are getting the verbal version from me. okay, that concludes my presentations. i'm available for questions. >> i just had one question. i will turn it over to fellow commissioners. the question on the slide of the three pages and it was a lot of-i don't know how many cases total, but i know that when we have the electronic bias audit that

comes up, usually they say they have these hits but at the end they usually say there is maybe one or two actual hits, so that number seems a little different then the three pages you just showed us because it seems like more are coming up then when we have the quarterly bias audit reports to us. >> that is a great question. we are giving you data from 2019 to present. >> okay. >> i know the number is 12 that came from the quarterly electronic bias audit. the same numbers, but no matter how we present it. so, i think based on what you just said, i think it is probably pretty close. >> okay. great. i will turn it over to vice president carter oberstone. >> thank you president elias. thank you commander

yep. just a basic clarifying question at the outset. in terms of the internal department audits, what happening is a search for key words on department bias, is that right or is there any other component to the audit that happens? >> it is a search, it is automated and yes. the answer to your question is yes. >> okay. the reason i ask is because i think it was late last month there were media, articles about in the course of a criminal proceeding a criminal defendant alleged that the officer who arrested them was engaged in selective enforcement. the officer was selectively singling out people of hispanic dissent when making decisions to arrest and so i'm wondering if there is anything the department does

that would catch that type of selective enforcement? >> i think what i want to tell you right now is that a internal discussion we are having, and i don't have a specific answer for you now. but rather then-it is ongoing discussion. >> is sounds like currently we don't do anything like tat but having discussions whether we need-might want to in the future, is that accurate? >> we have the data. i don't know that we necessarily crunch the data to make those determinations or process the data or analyze the data. >> okay. thank you. i appreciate. that is everything for me.

>> if i could just jump in to commissioner vice president carter oberstone's question. the audit would pick up-the only connection would be if some type of bias language that is triggered by what the audit is looking for, then leads us to down that road, but the audit as it stands does not detect that type of thing unless it is triggered by some type of bias language that causes us to investigate it. as you can see, some of the allegations end up-some of the investigations end up discovering other misconduct and that is probably the lion share of what you saw in the presentation. that could be a yes. if there is nothing in the audit itself that would do that, it key on the language and the investigation would pursue from there if that makes sense. >> that does make sense. thank you chief. >> thank you.

>> anything else vice president? >> i'm sorry, that is everything for me. thank you. >> i don't see other commissioners names in the chat. anyone? commissioner yanez. >> thank you president elias. i would like to understand that second level of discourse that takes place after the word has been identified there is a investigation that takes place. what background do the decision makers of that final audit element-what background do they have or what expertise do they have in contexualizing or understanding bias. bias is a very subjective kind of issue, right and so i

like to understand how we come to a decision or what process is taking place and what elements and what factors are being taken into account when that secondary investigation is taking place at internal affairs. >> that's-chief, i see your hand cht >> go ahead paul and you may cover what i was going to cover. i will jump in. >> okay. thanks for the question commissioner mpts just to speak to the process. if we have a eelectronic hit from the audit, it is automatically assigned an internal affairs division case number and it is assigned to one of the investigators in the office. they will do a full investigation, so let's say it is in an e-mail. they will pull the e-mail. not getting

too far into it, but other materials so it can go much further to see what context was the word used, where else is it used, is there a pattern we can detect immediately and to your point, yes, you are right, that investigator comes up with a finding, but what i'll tell you is there is multiple e layers orphthat so doesn't end with the investigator. they bring the file to the lieutenant who then brings it to the captain, ultimately to me and ultimately up the chain of command so many eyes have viewed it and ultimately for the chief to determine. we would make recommendations up to that point. to tell you it is not one single person looking at it, it is going to be viewed by many layers of

scrutiny. that's my answer. >> the only thing i would add as far as context, i hope this addresses your question commissioner yanez. the overall context-the word is keyed on, then we have to factor in and what is the context and circumstance regarding the use of that word. was it a part of a arrest? was it in a e-mail? was it in a department phone or text message regarding a criminal investigation? that can open many more doors in terms of determining where we go with that or is it something that is not any of that. the other thing that factors in is, what is the officer's discipline history. have there been prior offenses or similar conduct and those things are

factored in. the commission (inaudible) that list out mitigating circumstances so if there is enough standard to find there is bias misconduct or misconduct related to bias, all those things come into play so that context is very important of not just what was said but the context and circumstances in which that bias language was used and that is really what the determination is made from. >> my understanding, the next step then if there is some sort of allegation that is sustained we go into some disciplinary action and the action could include performance improvement plan, it may lead to

retraining-what is the course of action and who makes those decisions at that point because the challenge of the question i would have is, for-given that i dont know who or what level of bias exists in the supervisorial you know, categories of oversight, because the issue continues to come up. we continue to get alarms that say this language is going on and yet time and again we don't hear performance improvement plan. i have been harping on that for a while but it doesn't seem to ever lead to anything in writing so is that because the folks that are analyzing after the incident has been raised by the computer system that picks out the word are looking the other way? are they being trained in

actually activating performance improvement plans so that this doesn't continue to happen and that the sentiment isn't once it comes up it will not lead to disciplinary action because it rarely seems to come up in the updates we received in the last year. i have only seen one tore or two and as pointed out there were a lot of incidents oen the pages and doesn't seem any of those were sustained. i know those are a lot of questions, but i want to understand how we can use that structure to really address the issue that continues to challenge us, which is bias because it is so subjective, it is hard to really address with the legal standard, but yet we

continue to have the incidents continue to raise issues and raise flags and so i like to understand what is going to be done to make sure that we are applying the early intervention system recommendation of writing people up once in a while. if we bring things to light in writing outside of a investigation that says these words just kind of triggered this investigation, we may have more of a impact on improving our outcomes in that area. >> commissioner yanez, there is early intervention system-has nothing to do with what we are talking about here, this is discipline. if there is a word that may be potentially bias that triggers review the context of the word,

and that then can lead to disciplinary investigation and sometimes it does as just reported. the investigation is separate from the eis process. the eis process is not discipline by design. not disciplineitary, so there's-it is separate process. this process if it is determined after review-say i will give a hypothetical. say the word that the audit triggers is a word that is a problem. problematic and that would trigger an internal affairs investigation around circumstances. it may span the scope of the search. those type of things. but that is a disciplinary investigation that is found to be improper conduct or proper conduct. it is separate investigation and i just want to make sure that the public and people

understand, this process has nothing to do with eis. go back to eis is under the current system, it is discipline triggers a eis alert because it surpasses the threshold, that process reviews the officer in totality to try to find intervention and mitigation strategies to address the at-risk behavior. that is another process. you can still get held to answer on discipline or held accountable on discipline and still be in the eis system where another set of things will be done to try to correct the behavior but they are separate. i hope that helps. what we just reportsed on is not eis, these are all discipline. these were internal affairs investigations. >> okay, that does clarify one item and i do have a better understanding of the

eis system and i guess this is helpful informing and helping me understand the process. i know that it still is a concern that we all have and i hope that we continue to work on making sure that there is a consequence that is set in place whenever these things do come up and i like to understand it a little better just what language does lead to a disciplinary action because obviously we do not want to condone that behavior. thank you for clarifying. >> thank you sir. >> thank you. any other commissioner? sergeant, public comment, please. >> anybody like to make public comment regarding line

item 7, please press star 3 now. president elias no public comment. >> thank you. : >> line item 8 presentation of the second quarter 2022 fire arm discharge review board. findings and recommendations and ois investigative summary. discussion. >> good evening. can you hear me? >> yes, woo ecan hear you. >> thank you very much. good evening president elias, commissioners, chief of staff hawkins, chief scott member s of the public. robert o'sullivan. prior to my transfer to this assignment i chaired the fire arm discharge review board for the second quarter therefore here this evening to make the presentation. stacey, withed you please pull up the powerpoint and you can advance to the next slide.

before i get started by way of background, the department pursuant to general order 3.10 and 8.112 is required on a quarterly basis to hold review board for firearm discharge as well in custody deathess. the panel is made up of voting members the deputy chiefs from the administration operation airport and special operation bureau and several members that sit on the advisory board. i will name a few, the police commission will have a representsative for this case i'll discus this evening. president elias joined as a representative. the captain and lieutenant of the risk management office as well as the range master representive of department of police accountability and commanding

officer of the training division attend the meetings. i noted the ftfo office was mentioned earlier in the meeting and want to acknowledge them and the role they play. some years ago we brought the field training unit on board. they do a after action and critique themselves of all officer involved shootings and in custody deaths and they made a presentation after the internal affairs division had done their presentation. that is a little backgrund. i have one case to discuss this evening. that is officer involved shooting 20-004. advance the next slide. we have slides that provide overview of the shootingism . i will not read the particular slides but (inaudible) thank you. we learn fast. i am going to provide a overview of that and if there is

any questions. at the time of the shooting i was still assigned then as a commandser of risk management office so i do have experience with this particular case. i and others responded. this case is from november 17, 2020. occurred tuesday afternoon along market street. the initial call or calls i should say were with regard to a gentleman with a knife and frying pan in 5 and market. the area of the cable car turn around. very busy, pedestrian and foot and vehicle traffic. the call that came out again was a gentleman with a knife and frying pan engaged in an alterication with several membersism officer responded. the first responding officers it was a two officer unit, a patrol unit responded and they

located the individual concerned here on the e south side of market street between 5 and 4 street. he was in fact carrying a large knife and frying pan. i mention there were a lot of people. this is a busy area. the officer-assigned to the teneder line district and familiar with the area and foot traffic. the officers immediately ordered the individual to drop the knife. he did not comply. the officers had concerns what the individual might do with the knife, particularly given people were moving in and outside of stores in the area. the west field mall is there. at the time of the incident i estimate he is 20 to 30 yards east on the south side of market street from the mall entrance. after ordering the suspect to drop the knife one of the officers discharged

extended range impact weapon. eriw. the individual did not drop the knife. he-a second discharge was made. again the knife was dropped. a third officer arrived on the scene. he was with a partner from another marked unit so those two officers were also in uniform. that officer discharged what we call a 40mm and that is also a non lethal delivery system so it is a 40mm foam projectile. he discharged that 40mm pret a much at the same time the individual with the knife was charging at the officer who had originally discharged his eriw. that individual officer partner then

discharged his fire arm. the result was the suspect the gentleman was struck and he fell to the ground. at that time, the suspect still holding the knife and the frying pan got back to his feet. a 4th officer discharged his firearm striking the suspect causing the suspect to fall to the ground a second time. stacey you can advance the slide. from there on there was a number of discharges again involving the eriw and the foam projectile out of the 40mm and coordinated response among the officers on scene. after speaking with this individual for a significant amount of time, it was brought to the attention of the sergeant who was in charge of the scene there was 2 san francisco sheriff deputies who arrived. they were listening to

our radio traffic and responded to the scene. they made the supervising officer aware they had electronic control devices: the trade mark name. the most common name is a taser. they made the sargeent aware of that and said they were in a position to deploy that. the sergeant on scene gave approval for those sheriff deputies to go ahead and deploy their tasers. one officer deployed his taser the first time it was ineffectual. the second time upon the second deployment the suspect dropped both the knife and frying pan and that time officers san francisco police department officers approached the suspect took him into custody and rendered firs aid and taken to san francisco general for treatment. next slide, please. mention the onset that we also have a in custody death review board.

there were no icd presented over this quarter. next slide. at this time, this is something we began i think at least 18 months to 2 years ago is myself or who ever is doing the presentation provide a update for the discharge in custody death cases so i'll do that at this time. sergeant youngblood if you advance the slide. wont go into the particulars of all the cases, but i will give a very quick overview. the first officer involved shooting that is outstanding occurred in 2017. there were charges filed by san francisco district attorney office in the case. both the criminal and administrative investigations arepeneding. the following case officer involved shooting 17-007, the district attorney also

filed criminal cases in this matter that particular case is pending with regards to the administrative investigation. i have been informed that has been completed and currently in the review process through the chain of command with the risk management office. the next case 19-003, this occurred couple weeks before christmas in 2019. criminal case charges in the case were also filed, and that is currently both active and administrative investigations are active. officer involved shooting 20-001 south of market in the south park area specifically on barny street and jack london alley. this is still a act ive case being reviewed by the district attorney and there is a open and active investigation. the next case officer involved shooting 21-002, as you can see that occurred on folsom

street. that case is open both with the district attorney's office and with our administrative team. the next officer involved shooting occurred earlier this year. the first officer involved shooting of 2022. it occurred in san francisco international airport and this was the first of our officer involved shootings that fell within the purview of the california department of justice in response to a law that went into place. that case is still active. cal doj is investigating. one and only incustody death to report in the quarterly report occurred in march and that is open and active being investigated by both the district attorney office and the administrative team in the risk management office. next and final slide, please. we have a few more cases. they are all officer involved shootings. the next

occurred in the spring this year one of the off-duty members in the city of concord in contra costa county. the criminal and investigate investigations are open. the next case occurred may in mariposa and owens. this case isologist with cal doj, the reason being is that the suspects in the case were not armed with a firearm. the next case occurred on moscow street in the ingleside district. it is involves a deceased member and there is no criminal investigation in this matter, but it is a active investigation on the administrative side and finally, the most recent officer shooting in the mission district both the district attorney office and our team are conducting investigations. that concludes my presentation and happy to take any questions

from the commissioners. >> your powerpont has been on point tonight. >> we are on point. i know commander yep had a run but we had to interrupt that. [laughter] >> we didn't want him to do all the presentations tonight cht >> join in on the fun. acting director-hawkins. sorry. >> i wanted to point out that dpa did also conduct a investigation of that case and one thing i want ed to highlight coming up as we schedule the next session is that it was a case where we have been moving to making our presentations at the same time as iad in front of fdrb and that happens in this particular case. that is important because it brings both the investigations to the chief and to the board at the same time so this was a case where we did also make recommendations to

the chief and investigate and we are going to strive to keep doing that and keep doing it on a schedule in a good cadence that is the same time as sfpd presents their case. >> great. thank you. i will turn it over to fellow commissioners for questions, comments. dont see anyone in the chat. commissioner yee. >> thank you derrick. deputy chief sullivan. i just have one question. i remember this one in treasure island cht this is icd22001 in the custody of the police but then as i remember seeing the video, the firefighters took over and i don't know if that's something the fire department has to address as well or is it falls on our shoulder on the police

department side? >> thank you commissioner. so, it falls on both our sides and shortly after the incident occurred members of our command staff met with chief nicoles i members of her command staff, so we are-i can't speak to any of the details because i don't know them with regards to their investigation and certainly wouldn't be appropriate for me to do so, but i can tell you we did meet and spoke about the incident and they reviewed the body worn camera footage which you as commissioners have seen and trust they are conducting some sort of administrative investigation. i will say this, i think it is important to note that as a result of this incident and really-correct myself-this was the impetus in some ways but we good working relationship where the fire department but another

reason to highlight the need for us to continue to train together and understand one another's policies. >> thank you very much deputy chief o'sullivan. that is all i have. >> thank you. any other commissioner? seeing none, i will turn it over to public comment, please. >> members of the public that would like to comment, please press star 3 now. good evening caller you have two minutes. >> my name is kate hodge. a volunteer (inaudible) we are looking at the presentation and wondering this is (inaudible) cutting off at 2017 and makes us wonder what the status is of in particular the mario woods case from 2015. thank you. >> thank you caller.

president elias, that is the end of public comment; and >> thank you next iletm. >> item 9 discussion and possible action to adopt department general order 3.07 police department collision board of review. meet and confer draft was approved by the commission on july 20, 2022. discussion and possible action. >> who is presenting on this? chief. chief not here? commander o'sullivan, do quou you know who is presenting on this? anyone from the department? >> can you hear me commissioners? >> yes. >> i'm sorry, something is going on. i donts know if you can see me. my video just went blank.

>> we see the screen but not you. >> i'm right in front of the camera so dont know what is going on. pardon for me, i'll turn my camera off. this dgo is a revision of our basically our collision review board and the last dgo was revised in 2-12-199 so it has been a while. a couple things to highlight is definitely update of language, update on some of the processes and this should fold in nicely when we finish our serious incident review board and to that process as well, so we focus with that in mind. back in 1997, collisions

were as we call accidents so the accident language was taken out. that is a language change to update. also, it outlines the policy of who is involved in the process of a (inaudible) a collision for review and that is another language change from the prior dgo that had accident board of review. it clears up what the process is. there isn't a lot of complications with this dgo and hoping to get the commission's report to finalize this so we can get it posted and on the way. >> i believe my fellow commissioners had a opportunity to review this. at this point, i would make a motion to adopt. >> i'll second. >> thank you. sergeant.

>> on the motion to adopt. [roll call] >> sorry, i did not do public comment. members who like to make public comment line item 9, please press star 3 now. there is no public comment. starting from the beginning. on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote? >> still yes. >> commissioner walker yes. commissioner beni dicto. yes. commissioner (inaudible) commissioner burns is yes. commissioner yee. >> yes. >> commissioner yee

is yes. >> vice president oberstone. >> yes. >> president elias; >> yes. >> you have 6 yeses. >> great. next item. >> line item 10. discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 5.01, “use of force policy and proper control of a person,” for the department to use in meeting and conferring with san francisco police officers association as required by law . discussion and possible action. i need to bring in our other speakers.

sorry, give me one second. >> no worries. captain harvey, can you hear me? >> yes, i can. >> perfect. thank you very much. commissioner elias on the phone we have

captain harvey and lieutenant neven and sergeant (inaudible) >> thank you gentleman for joining us. what we have is revision to 5.01. we passed it several months ago and we received from the training division and officers indicating they were having difficulty and challenges with respect to the dgo as we had revised it. i then met with the department. we met with the training division and (inaudible) dpa as well as other command staff to discuss 5.01 and make the nessary edits and revisions to take back to the officers and properly train them. as you know we heard from the poa and members we want a clear concise language in the dgo and with that in mind that is exactly what we did. i want to snd a huge thank you to dpa and

(inaudible) the policy director. sergeant john crudo, lieutenant neven. captain harvey and sergeant (inaudible) they were critical as well as the chief and (inaudible) in hoping revise dgo so officers have a complete and thorough policy. i want to say thank you very much for the time and effort you took with me to walk me through this and get the changes made. i will turn it over to-which was it? sergeant youngblood? >> harvey. >> okay. harvey. give you a height highlight and over view of the changes made. >> yes. thank you for the introduction commissioner elias and police commission. and thank you to chief scott. i am in the company of lieutenant michael neven rfx, we are together to talk about a quick overview of the revisions that were made to dgo5.01.

so, unless there is any questions i'll begin with key changes or key revisions if the group is ready to proceed. >> please. >> okay. alright. speaking to physical control reporting, the standard from april of 2022 was to physical controls use d in a attempt to overcome any physical resistance. that was the current standard as of today. what we are proposing under the revision is, for the threshold to be force that is reasonably likely to cause pain or injury, which is a elevation from the 2016 policy, or force that causes physical pain or injury or the subject reports physical pain or injury so the threshold is what the

revision would propose. the second component key change for safeguarding dignity speaks to when members of the san francisco police department can sit or prone or kneel a suspect on the ground or lower position since revised if approved by you to state while conducting arrest or detention in the field officers shall not direct a subject to involuntarily sit, lay, kneel and kneel is a new consideration that was not considered in the april policy, or otherwise assume a lowered position on the ground unless there are specifics and articulable safety concerns. consistent with the april policy members would be required to-when the safety factors are addressed to get the person off the ground, with dignity and respect

and would be required in the police report to document and articulate the specific safety concerns within the totality of circumstances that lead the officer to involuntarily direct the subject to sit on the ground as well as follow-up at the scene. specific factors may include the nature of the type of call, pre-assaultive behaviors, evasive efforts or indicators, access to weapons, number and/or size of subjects, mental status or apparent intoxication of the subject and or other considerations. generalized or routine factors may not sufficiently address this sub-section by itself. lastly, the final

section for key changes has to do with drawing or exhibiting and pointing a firearm. so, a quick overview of the proposal for the revision would be, for purposes of this order, drawing and exhibiting occurs any time a officer removes her handgun from the hollster but not point the firearm at any person and then officers would be required to document and articulate the justification and circumstances for drawing and exhibiting a firearm in the correspondsing police report. if a incident report was not otherwise required the officing drawing and exhibiting the firearm shall memorialize and articulate the justification on the body worn camera, or in cad. supervisors shall complete a cor spanding drawing

and exhibiting supervisory evaluation before the end of watch. as to pointing of a firearm at a person for the purpose of this order, pointing a firearm as when a officer with the muzzle of the drawn firearm and this specific on purpose, covers any portion of any person, no officer shall point a firearm at a person unless there is objectively reasonable cause to believe the situation will escalate to justify deadly force. if a officer points a firearm at a person, the officer shall face and with appropriate advice the subject the reason why the officer or officers pointed the firearm. document and articulate the justification for pointing their firearm in the cor spanding police report. complete a supervisory evaluation before the end of

watch. so, there in lies the three significant key revisions which we are proposing subject to your approval. >> thank you so much. chief, did you want to weigh in? >> yes, first of all, thank you president elias. i want to say publicly thank you for having an open ear and mind to the concerns that were brought to you on some of the language recommended revisions. i just want to quickly without being longwinded tie this into previous discussion on moral. one thing i hear over and over again is officers we definitely understand that we have policy and need good policies but they wanted input and like their voices to be heard and just the fact that you came to listen and be open minded to listen

what the concerns were is really important in terms of letting officers know they do have a voice and their concerns will be taken seriously so i appreciate that and the department really appreciates that. the general order itself, i want to thank captain harvey and his team because they went back to the drawing board and really heard and understood the spirit of what we were trying to get at in terms of being accountable and reporting the type of force. expanding the force category to through r lower threshold but not to a point where it was really over-bearing and overburden sum and confusing and that is what this language attempts to rectify, so i don't want to add anything that captain harvey said. i just think a lot of thought went into this. a lot of discussion and dpa was a big part of the discussion and i think we have a very thoughtful set

of recommends recommendations that will clarify the policy and still do everything that we set out to do when we first realized we needed to revise prop 101, which by the way is still a very good dgo. i just want to thank everybody for listening and hope the commission supports the isso we can get it to meet and confer. >> thank you. i appreciate that. again, i appreciate the officers taking the time to walk me through it. i think we found secret policy writers among us. acting director hawkins. >> thank you. i agree it was great work by everyone involved and i think we are all proud of being a part of that. two other changes i think worth highlighting. update to include new state law on the duty to intervene so our policy is consistent with that state law. and it also includes language that the drawing and exhibiting stats will be publicly reported on on a monthly basis. i think those are two additional

points that make this really excellent work. >> yes. thank you so much. also too thank you and also assistant chief (inaudible) for your help on this as well in addition to director or mrs. kaywood. commissioner benidicto. >> thank you president elias. i want to add congratulations and thanks to everyone who worked on this policy. prop 101 (inaudible) before i joined the commission and gratifyed to see thoughtful changes and gratifying to see what the commission, dpa department can achieve when they are working together both in terms of substance and in terms of efficiency. i hope this is model we can use for the backlog of dgo. this is a great example of a policy pass ed and a-mindedment we

identified issues with it, worked to correct them and within a short period of time are here to pass it so proud to support it and hope we continue to have this as a model going forward and also hope that the police officer association allows it to move swiftly through meet and confer. >> glad you mention that because the process showed why the revisions especially the ones where we adopted the ability for officers to provide input in the policy making decisions before it gets final draft why that is so vital and crucial, because these changes really were driven by the officers, so and that's why we are even here and the changes were made to insure that officers were able to do their job and do their job correctly and make the necessary policy changes in order for them to do that. with that, i am going to ask-make a motion to

adopt or approve the revised dgo so it can be sent to meet and confer. >> second. >> thank you. public comment and then vote, please. >> members of the public that like to make public comment regarding line item 10, dgo5.01 use of force please press star 3 now. good evening caller, you have two minutes. >> commissioners, i was a little late listening to the virtual meeting. i have been listening to the meeting from your agenda number 7-10. on this agenda number 10, you can see that if you go into a situation with a open mind and a clean heart you can

resolve stuff, and then it gives a good satisfaction to the policy makers and also sends a nice message to the police officers. when that happens hopefully the police officer's association can also come together to uplift one another, so thank you very much for your hard work and nice to see the smiles. >> thank you caller. president elias, that is the end of public comment. >> thank you, can we take a vote, please? >> on the motion to advance dgo5.01 to meet and confer- [roll call]

you have 6 yeses. >> thank you. next item. >> line item 11, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 13 below closed session including public comment on item 12, vote whether to hold item 13 in closed session. you like to make public comment, please press star 3 now. president elias, there is no public comment. >> thank you. >> item 12 vote whether to hold item 13 in close session. san francisco administrate chb code

section 67.10. action. >> motion? >> motion to hold item 13 in closed session. >> second? >> second it. >> thank you. [roll call] >> you have 6 yeses. i will take us into closed session. [closed session]

>> san francisco administrative

code section 67.12a. action. >> can i get a motion, please? >> i'll move to not disclose any discussion item 13. >> second? >> i'll second it. >> great. can we get public comment? >> members that like to make public comment regarding line item 14, press star 3 now. there is no public comment. on the motion- [roll call] you have 6 yeses. >> great. next item. >> line item 15,

adjournment. action item. >> great. thank you everyone for a great meeting. i appreciate it and good luck tomorrow chief. i can't wait to see the photos. >> thank you. >> you better make us proud. >> i plan to. alright. congratulations. >> thank you. >> congratulations. [meeting adjourned]

>> good afternoon. we are here today for virtual town hall regarding a officer involved shooting that occurred saturday august 6, 2022 at 18 and shotwell street. before proceeding, i like to announce to our viewing and listening audience that this town hall is being translated into spanish, and american sign language. today's presentation include details from officer involved shooting that occurred between uniformed san francisco police officers and 51 year old jose cavera. the san francisco police department we recognize that our sworn duty as law enforcement officers imposes no more solemn obligation on us then to honor and respect the

santhty of life. we also know we are sometimes required to use force, including deadty force at times. we recognize too officer involved shootings can have a traumatic effect on members of our communities, especially for individuals, families and loved ones who suffered trauma of their own and encounter with the crimial justice system. where ever it may be. to any of the viewers experiencing trauma from this incident or from the information or images that we will present during the town hall, please know help is available to you. you may contact san francisco department of public health crisis line, 415- 970-3800 for trauma services. here is what we hope to accomplish today. first and foremost in the san francisco police department aspiration to be a national model of 21 century

policing, we work to earn the trust of those we serve by committing to transparency and to the tenants of procedural justice and this process and in the town hall presentation. procedural justice depends on the legitimacy of police and entire crimial system. we work to embody the tenants what procedural justice is all about. we will release the facts known to us at this time about the incident and do so in a manner that is impartial and neutral. we will answer questions from members of the public as well as members of the news media and listen to public feedback. commander (inaudible) will be presenting the facts in this case in a few minutes. before turning the floor over to him however, i want to emphasize this incident is subject to multiple independent scr ongoing investigation. as such, there may be some information we cannot release at this time,

either because the release of certain information is prohibited by law, or because the release of certain information could compromise a ongoing investigation or because certain facts have not been established with certainty. in other words, we are not able to release unconfirmed information. next, commander will include a detail verbal narrative as well as audio and video content from the officer involved shooting incident. sfpd officers who responded to the team were wearing department issued body worn cameras, activated at the time of the incident. consistent with with our body worn camera policy you will see body worn camera video from the officers from multiple perspectives. at the san francisco police department our commitment to full transparency guided our officer involved shooting

investigations and town halls for several years now. our commitment to the public includes holding a town hall within 10 days of the incident. although our practices predate enactment of many police transparency and accountability laws in california, we believe our approach has remained consistent with the letter and spirit of reforms implemented by senate bill 1421 for police transparency and assembly bill 1506 for police accountability. sfpd commitment to transparency in the process will also be reflected in our release of information online. video from this town hall including audio recordings from 911 calls, dispatcher call and video footage i just mentioned will be posted on sfpd website at san franciscopolice.org. there it will remain available in perpetuity for public viewing. san

francisco police department director mandate we release the names of officers from officer involved shootings unless safety concerns argue disclosure. we identified no safety concerns and are commander will release the names of the officer as a part of his presentation. i would like to explain now the investigative processes for a officer involved shooting next. san francisco has a multi-agency response to officer involved shootings and each agency investigation is independent. when a officer involve shootings occurs involved a on duty san francisco police officer the following agencies are immediately notified. the sfpd investigative services detail is the unit responsible for investigating the events that lead up to the officer involved shootings. the sfpd internal affairs division is responsible for conduct ing

administrative investigation to determine if the officer or officers responsible for the ois are in compliance with standards and requirements of sfpd policy. the investigation of both sfpd units can run parallel, each has distinctive investigative purview and focus. each maintains a fire wall to comply with legal standards and requirement. the san francisco district attorney's office, independent investigation bureau or iib is responsible for determining the legality of the officer involved shooting. based on their independent investigation and review, the district attorney of the county of san francisco will make the final decision as to whether the officers or officers actions comply with the laws of the state of california. san francisco department of police accountability or dpa also conducts a independent administrative investigation. san francisco voters

created dpa as successor of office of citizen complaints with posage of proposition d in the june 2016 election. dpa investigates all insdants any officers discharge the weapon within the course and scope of the duties when that discharge results in a individual injury or death. finally, i like to point out we take community feedback seriously and based on feedback from prior officer involved shootings town hall we will take questions and answer to the extent able today, understanding this incident remains a ongoing investigation. we will allocate one hour for public comment and question and conclude this town hall and approximately 615 p.m. or when there are no more callers which ever comes first. thank you very much for joining us today and now, commander.

>> thank you very much chief scott. good afternoon everyone. i'm commander, (inaudible) rivlg management office and will provide a summary of a officer involved shooting incident involving members of the san francisco police department. the officer involved shooting or ois incident, discussed in the presentation occurred on saturday august 6, 2022 at approximately 755 a.m. on shockwell street at 18th street in san francisco's mission district. this incident involved uniform patrol members of the san francisco police department from the mission police district and bayview police district. of the numerous officers on scene during the ois incident, a majority of the officers completed crisis intervention team or cit training. three of

the four officers who discharged their weapons have completed cit training. officers who are cit trained completed a 40 hour california peace officer standards and training or post certified course which prepares them to respond to persons in crisis insdants and as a team formally to plan establish rapport and use de-escalation tactics including tactical repositioning and creating time and distance when ever possible to safely resolve a person in crisis insdants. of the officers on scene during the ois incident, 17 also completed critical mindset coordinated response or cmcr training. one of the four officers who discharged their weapons has completed cmcr training. cmcr is a 20hour post-certified training course developed by

the san francisco police depaurmt field tactic force option unit. this course addresses high risk situations incounterered by officers in the field. training objectives include critical decision making during high risk incidents. using teamwork and leadership. in this presentation and body worn camera footage you may hear the following terminology used by officers. 221. 221 is police radio code for person with a gun. 917, 917 is police radio code for suspicious person. bear cat is a armored vehicle used to provide ballistic protection to officers and citizens during rescue, critical incidents and

other hazardous situations. these vehicles allow officers closer access to high risk situations while substantially reducing the physical risks to officers and citizens. bwc, is body worn camera. code 33. code 33 is police radio code for emergency, clear the radio channel. crisis/hostage negotiation team. crisis hostage negotiation team is often referred to as h & t who's members are on-call specialized officers and sergeants trained to assist in resolving through communication. crisis and hostage situations, barricaded subjects, high risk suicide threats and high risk warrant service. critical incident. critical incident is a

life threatening situation that requires a response in a (inaudible) examples include, barricaded subjects, hostage situations and sniper situations. command post. command most is referred to as the cp. operational command post or ocp. the command is location established by the operational commander who is the source of command authority, decisions and media information. it is also responsible for establishing and maintaining an outer perimeter. dispatch. dispatch is department of emergency management radio dispatcher. ois. ois is a officer involved shooting. public safety statement. public safety statement is information obtained by supervisor at an officer involved shooting using questions intended to determine existing threats to public safety and identify transtore evidence that must be preserved. the scope of the

statement is limited to the collection of such critical fleeting information in the immediate aftermath of these critical incidents. it is the department's policy to deactivate body worn cameras before obtaining public safety statements and the policy instructs the supervisor to remind the involved officers not to discuss the incident further. specialist team. the special test team is a on-call specialized unit referred to as specks within the special operation bureau consisting of patrol officers and sergeants trained in responding to high priority crimes in progress resolving critical incident, dignitary protection, crowd control, water born operation and assisting the tactical unit with high risk warrant service. the tactical unit is full time specialized unit often referred to as tact within the special

operation bureau. trained serving high ringe warrants row solving critical incident dignitary protection, crowd patrol and water born operation. tactical emergency medical medics are san francisco fire department members embedded with the tactical unit to render aid at the scene of critical incident active shooter jz high risk warrant service. i will now provide a incident summary. the precise cronology of the incident is under investigation. the times presented are approximate. the following summary of the events as they are understood as of today monday august 15, 2022. at approximately 755 a.m., two uniform san francisco police department officers assigned to the mission district were on patrol in a marked department vehicle. officer

number one is a officer in the field training program while officer number two is his field training officer. the two officers observed a subject pushing a red bicycle while riding a blue bicycle on the sidewalk. officer number two recalled the recent crime alert regarding a stolen bicycle from the area. crime alerts are bulletins dissiminated to san francisco police department members by investigative units to provide information regarding recent crimes. officer number one, the passenger in the patrol vehicle advised department of emergency management dispatch they were in the area of south van ness and 16 street where they saw a 917 which is supicious person riding a blue bicycle with a red bicycle in his hand. the two officers attempted to contact the subject later

identified as jose (inaudible) ibin the area of shotwell and 18th street. body worn camera footage for both officer number one and officer number two began while they were driving eastbound on 18th street and then north on shotwell street. as seen on footage, officer number one exited the passenger side of the patrol vehicle to contact on the east sidewalk of shotwell street north of 18 street. officer two said, "he's running, he's running". officer one gave chase on foot and announced over the radio code 33, foot pursuit. code 33 is radio code for police emergency, clear the channel. officer number one ran northbound on shotwell street and ordered mr. covera to stop. officer one yelled

221, which is radio code for person with a gun and ran back southbound in the direction of his patrol vehicle. according to security camera footage from a nearby building, mr. cor vera ran north past a red car on shotwell sheet and turnd around and crofep behind the hood of a red car while pointing a gun in the direction of the officers. officer number two initially stayed in the patrol vehicle and drove forward as mr. cor vera fled but then stopped the patrol vehicle and announced over his radio, hey, 221, code 33. officer number two exited the patrol vehicle and drew his department issued hand gun. officer number one opened the front passenger door of the patrol vehicle and positioned himself behind the door as he drew his department issued handgun and pointed in the direction of mr. cor

vera. officer number one and officer number two then ordered mr. corvera to "drop the gun". and ", put the gun down". officer number one also yelled, "drop the gun on the floor or you will be shot. put it on the floor". the two officers then warned a nearby bystander to get back. while the two officers continue to give orders to mr. corvera to surrender, what sounded like a gun shot could be heard. this occurred while officer number two was attempting to provide updated location to dispatch. at this time, officer number one and officer number two discharged their department issued hand guns. due to officer number two radio transmission being cut off, dispatch announced the last known location, which was previously given by officer one as south van ness and 16th street. officer

number two announced over his radio, "shots fired, shots fired". officer one continued to order mr. corvera to pget on it ground and drop the gun. mr. cor vera could be heard yelling at the officers behind the red car. officer two clarified to dispatch, their location was 18th and shotwell and repositioned behind a red truck parked on the west sidewalk of shotwell street as numerous officers responded. as aufsher one continued to speak to mr. corvera, officer two updated over the radio with approach and location of mr. cor vera behind the car, "he's still got the gun. shots fired, he's behind the car, still not cooperative". the acting lieutenant of mission statement arrived, took command and immediately requested officers

to bring shields for cover. officer 2 announced, "suspect already took a shot at us". officer two, "he's behind the car sarge, get down. he's already shot at us". officer number two updated arriving backup units of the situation as they took positions behind various vehicles. mr. corvera could be heard yelling, "get out of here". during the course of the incident the acting lieutenant coordinated units and developed a plan. he directed officers including other supervisors as they arrived on scene. the acting lieutenant in conjunction with the ort supervisors on scene organize resources such as shields and rifles and managed scene security for officer and bystander safety. the acting lieutenant also work

would the other supervisors on scene to reposition officers as necessary to minimize avenues of escape and deconflict potential cross fire issues. throughout the incident the supervisors managed back up officer duty including contact officer, shield cover, rifle cover, crowd control and traffic control. at approximately 758 a.m., three minutes after-the start of the incident, a crisis intervention team trained officer that was briefed by officer number two took over as primary contact officer and began speaking to mr. corvera. the contact officer ordered mr. corvera to put the gun down. mr. corvera replied, "no, get out of here. i don't want to see you.". during the dialogue, mr. corvera provided his first name

to the contact officer. officer three arrived on scene as backup equip with a department issued rifle. officer number 3 was briefed on the situation and directed by supervisor to serve as a cover officer for the contact officer. officer number 3 requested and soon provided with a additional shield for cover while the contact officer continued to speak with mr. corvera. the primary contact officer was conversing with mr. corvera in english, another officer attempted to start a dialogue with mr. corvera in spanish. mr. corvera responding in english and spanish to the officers, but did not comply with either their commands to surrender. officer number 3 confirmed with the supervisor on scene that he could see a gun in mr. corvera's hand. officer number 3 warned nearby

officers that "he's got it pointed in this direction, pointed in our direction from behind the front hood". mr. corvera could be heard saying "no, i cant talk to you. leave. go.". officer number 4 arrived on scene and was equip with department issued rifle. officer number 4 briefed on the situation by officer number 2. the contact officer said to mr. corvera ", jose, how can we help you today?". mr. corvera responded, "nothing, just go". at 803 a.m. the acting lieutenant declared a critical incident and established the command post. he and other supervisors requested additional resources including, the san francisco police

department tactical unit, the crisis/hostage negotiation team or chmt, and for medical personnel to stage in the area. after the critical incident was declared, tactical unit members and specialist team members responded to assist with the incident. a supervisor on scene updated officers and warned over the radio mr. corvera is pointing the gun at the officer. a supervisor on scene then requested a shelter in place announcement for nearby residents and also requested additional units to help clear the area of bystanders for their safety. at approximately 808 a.m. alert san francisco, san francisco emergency text message system sent a text message announcement to nearby residents notifying them of the incident. at multiple times

during the incident various officers can be heard saying mr. corvera was pointing his gun in their direction while the contact officer continued to speak with mr. corvera. officer number 3 updated a supervisor mr. corvera was on his 80s peaking over the hood of the red car with the gun in his right hand. officer number 3 developed a plan with other officers to bring a patrol vehicle on to the west sidewalk of shotwell street to provide additional cover. officer number 3 continuously updated nearby officers of their plan and of mr. corvera's movements. officer number 3 repositioned to the patrol vehicle driven on to the sidewalk, moved the patrol vehicle forward a short distance and took position behind the driver side of the patrol vehicle. a supervisor directed the contact officer to hollster his department issued handgun and continue speaking

with mr. corvera. from the driver seat of the patrol vehicle officer number 3 yelled "he's got the gun pointed, he's got it pointed in this direction". at this time approximately 13 minutes after the start of the minute officer 3 discharged his department issued rifle. officer number 3 advised he discharged his rifle and that mr. corvera was still crawling around. the contact officer continued to speak with mr. corvera who could be heard yelling "get out of here, get out of here". "i saw a gun pointed in my direction multiple times". a supervisor advised officer over the radio additional officer involved shooting just occurred while the primary contact officer continued to speak with mr.

corvera. at the direction of supervisors, backup officers relieved officer number 1, officer number 2, and officer number 3. a supervisor positioned officer number 4 to take up officer number 3 previous position behind the patrol vehicle door. officer number 4 ducked behind the driver side of the patrol vehicle while warning nearby officers "he is standing up again. he's pointing the gun again ". the contract officer said, "hey, jose, i need to talk to you so i can help you. what do you mean man? you can make it easy by coming out and talking to me. jose, nobody wants to hurt you dude. no, nobody is going to hurt you man. no one is here to hurt you. we are here to help you". a supervisor positioned next to the contact officer

stated mr. corvera did not appear to be injured. mr. corvera could be heard saying, "i don't need no help". the contact officer said, "hey, jose, you got to throw the gun out so we can help you". crisis hostage negotiate airs arrived on scene to assist. officer 4 advised a nearby supervisor, i can see the top of his head, he is still right in front of the hood. the contact officer said, "jose, put the gun down, come out and let me know what you need". at approximately 825 a.m. while the contact officer continued to speak to mr. corvera, officer 4 announced to nearby officers, "he's pointing the gun at us, i cant see him though. i can just see the gun".

during the incident two individuals that were hiding behind a nearby silver vehicles described by a officer as possibly being involved. a supervisor on scene determined the two individuals were bistandards and the information provided to officers on scene via radio. as the contact officer continued to speak to mr. corvera, a supervisor announced, "watch out, watch out, watch out, the gun's up". the supervisor advised over radio, "stand by, he's got it gun up". at approximately 836 a.m., approximately 41 minutes after the start of the incident officer 4 discharged his department issued rifle. officer number 4 yelled, "he's still pointing the gun".

another officer said, "he shot over here". officer 4 responded, "he's still up". officer 4 shouted "he's shot. i can't see anything beside the gun. he is pointing the gun over". as another officer said, "he shot over here". as the contact officer ordered mr. corvera to put the gun down, officer 4 announced, "he throw it, he throw it". at the time what sounds like a gun shot can be heard. officer 4 yelled a expletive and ", gun just went off". officer number 4 advised nearby officers "he through the gun, the gun is right there". officer number 4 shouted a expletive and added that it "went off when he

throw it". the information was relayed to officers on scene via radio. there corvera was still hiding behind the red car. officers gave repeated orders for mr. corvera to surrender. a supervisor then replaced officer 4 with another officer. each of the 4 officers that discharged their fire arms provided a public safety statement to supervisors on scene. after repeated commands for mr. corvera to surrender a arrest plan was developed by the tactical unit and arrest team. the contact officer was replaced by a hostage crisis negotiator who began speaking to mr. corvera. at approximately 848 a.m., approximately 53 minutes after the start of the incident, a designated arrest team consisting of san francisco

police department specialist team members with the assistance of the san francisco police department tactical unit took mr. corvera into custody. san francisco fire department medical personnel accessed mr. corvera on scene and determined he was not struck by gun fire, however he was transported to zuckerburg san francisco hospital for a miner complaint of pain. mr. corvera discharged from zuckerburg san francisco general hospital shortly therefore and later booked at county jail 1 for the following crimes: 3 counts of assault on a peace officer with a fire arm, which is section 245d2 of the california penal code. 2 counts of violently resisting arrest, section 69a of the california

penal code. brandishing a fire arm in the presence of a peace officer, which is section 417c of the california penal code. possession of a fire arm with intent to resist arrest. resisting arrest, section 148-a1 of the california penal code. carrying a loaded fire arm in public, section 25850a of the california penal code. mr. corvera remains in custody at this time. additional information. the subject's name is jose corvera. his date of birth is january 12, 1961. evidence. crime scene investigators from the san francisco police department frenzic service

division responded and processed physical evidence from the scene including but not limited to the following: one 9 mill imeter semi-automatic pistol known as imitation blank fire arm. the make and model of the fire arm is a (inaudible) magnum. three blank gun cartridge casings. two 40 caliber casings. 11, 223 caliber casing. among the other items recovered at the scene were two bicycles, one cell phone and mr. corvera's backpack containing various property. video footage and photographs. officers on scene were wearing department issued body worn cameras activated at the time of the incident and recorded the events as they unfolded. security

cameras owned by a private party recorded footage of the incident that was later provided as evidence to the san francisco police department and san francisco district attorney independent investigation bureau. multiple photographs taken by witnesses were also provided as evidence to the san francisco police department and the san francisco district attorney's independent investigation bureau. any other relevant video footage or photographs could be provided to the san francisco police department investigative services detail and/or the san francisco district attorney's independent investigation bureau using the following phone number : 415-575-4444. once again, 415-575-4444. witnesses. several eye witnesses of the incident were

interviewed by the san francisco police department investigative services detail, and the san francisco district attorney's independent investigations bureau. any other witnesses are encouraged to contact the san francisco police department tip line and the san francisco district attorney's independent investigations bureau at 415-575-4444. involved members. the san francisco police department officers who dist charged their weapons in this incident are, officer michael rochi1514, a field training officer assigned to mission station. officer cane (inaudible) number 1183, an officer in the field training program assigned to mission station. officer gene

(inaudible) 375 assigned to bayview station. officer corey fabell, 1520, assigned to bayview station. the remainder of the presentation is provided in a multi-media format in a effort to provide a transapparent and comprehensive perspective of this incident, the san francisco police department will provide maps, body worn camera videos, surveillance video footage, a witness photograph, crime scene investigation photos and related visual aids. our presentation today consist of relevant known video and audio at this time, but not intended to provide all photos, videos or testimonyial information related to this investigation. i will now provide a chronological presentation of

this incident using these multi-media sources. the majority of the videos shown are in unedited form. at selected points to increase the transparency for viewers, certain videos have been enhanced to allow for a better perspective of this incident. please note this presentation the enhanced videos and the unedited videos will be all available on the sfpd website immediately following this town hall event. prior to the begood inning of each segment of audio or video i'll provide a brief description to orient the viewer to time, place and location of the content about to be shown. you are about to see video footage and learn about evidence related to the case so you can have a better understanding what occurred based upon what we know right now. we are still in the very early stages of a administrative

investigation, which can take months to complete. our understanding of the incident may change as additional evidence is collected and reviewed. we do not draw any conclusion as to whether the officers acting consistent with our policies and the law until the facts are known and the investigation is complete. a word of caution, the images and information you are about to see and hear may be disturbing. when a police officer uses force to arrest his suspect or defend against attack, the images can be graphic and may be difficult to watch. in addition, there may be strong language used by those in the video. viewer discretion is advised, especially for young children and sensitive viewers. we encourage those in need of help to contact the san francisco department of public health, behavioral access line

at 415-255-3737. once again, 415-255-3737. we will

start the presentation with a geographical map of shotwell street and 18th street as well as enhanced graphics to display the general area of the officer involved shooting. the map will show a google satellight perspective. please note, the graphics and map are approximations and are not shown to scale. the

dispatch audio from this incident will not be played during this presentation, but will be made available on the san francisco police department website following this town hall event. the body worn camera footage, which will be played next captured much of the dispatch audio transmissions. at this time, we will show five body worn camera videos related to the officer involved shooting. i will introduce each video prior to playing it. all these videos are from department issued body worn cameras. portions of some videos have been blurred due to the display of confidential law enforcement

database images. we are now going to play body worn camera video footage from officer number one. this video will be played in real time. the body worn camera video footage will begin with officer number 1 initial contact with the subject and his actions leading up to and during the ois incident. [video playing] >> code 33, foot pursuit. >> sir, stop there. just stop there, buddy!

(inaudible) >> code 33. >> code 33. >> drop your gun now! put the gun down! put the gun down now! on the floor! >> drop the gun! >> drop the gun on the floor or you will be shot! put it on the floor! >> (inaudible) >> do it again, get back! >> drop the gun! >> drop it! drop that gun on the floor! put it down! put the gun down! put that gun down or you will be shot! you, down! >> shots fired! shots fired! >> shots fired. >> just get on the ground! get flat on the ground, buddy! >> drop the gun! >> just drop it! it is okay,

just drop the gun! just get flat on the floor! >> what is your 20? [car alarm] >> just put it down alright! it's okay, this is over. just put that gun down! >> drop the gun! >> drop the gun on the floor! alright, nobody wants to get shot today. just put it down! >> still got the gun, shots fired and on the car, still not cooperative. >> shots fired. (inaudible) suspect is behind the vehicle, not cooperative. >> just put it down, alright. >> (inaudible) [sirens]

>> took a shot at us. >> suspect took a shot. (inaudible) >> bring up a shield. >> (inaudible) >> [inaudible comments over the radio] >> put that gun on the floor! >> (inaudible) >> that's all. just put the gun down! >> bring a couple shields up. one to the left or one to the right. a red corolla. >> bring a shield. >> got ya. he's basically at

the right passenger side tire of this red car, yeah. >> i'm on your right, okay? >> got you. [multiple speakers] >> shotwell and 18th. suspect is non-comclient. >> you on the scooter get back? on the scooter! back! back! back! >> southbound shotwell-if we can prevent that from occurring. >> he's just behind the red car. [speaking over the radio] >> he's outside the car. >> seating our standing? >> he's crouched down. last i saw him he is crouched

down at the right front passenger side tire. [yelling in the background] >> yes, sir. >> (inaudible) on the passenger side. >> if we move back, try to get behind me, that way you are behind the shield. same thing for you cane. >> got it, sir. >> did any sfpd fire shots? >> yes, sir. >> okay, very good. [exhale] [yelling in the

background] >> no officers. we don't know about the suspect. >> i fired one round. yes, he is telling us to go. yes. >> (inaudible) >> yes. thank you. thank you. yes, yes, i will. >> needs to block off vehicle and are (inaudible) shotwell and are (inaudible) southbound. >> copy. >> (inaudible) >> (inaudible) who ever you got. jrkts >> copy.

>> mine is in my right pocket. >> (inaudible) >> (inaudible) shotwell and 17th, pedestrian and vehicle traffic.

[inaudible comments in the background] >> david, 200. david, 200. >> david, go ahead. >> yeah, i'm going to declare this a critical incident and i'm geeing going to set up my command post at the address here. let's say my command post is---(inaudible) >> copy. >> 300. >> copy.

>> david 110, i don't believe we have any injuries on scene. (inaudible) fire arm in his hands (inaudible) >> copy, no injuries. (inaudible) >> holding the fire arm, copy. >> be advised (inaudible) >> (inaudible) line of sight. >> (inaudible) >> (inaudible) >> david 11, i can see under the car from where we

are, we cant see anything from where we are. >> (inaudible) doesn't see anything under the vehicle. >> be advise sed. he was riding one bicycle and another in his hand (inaudible) this red-the restaurant-- >> i got you. >> (inaudible) [siren in the background]

>> (inaudible) >> david 200, has anybody requested a 408 to stage? >> negative, not yet. >> 10-4. please have them stage at 18 and south van ness. >> got it. >> i'm not standing up. if he starts shooting i going to fuckin hunker down. you know what we could do-can you shift a little more towards your left. you can point-come through the window because you have this-the door has ballistic panels. >> david 110. >> go ahead.

>> is there (inaudible) >> copy. [multiple speakers] i will shold hold the shield here and duck behind the door. as planned, you are going to stay there, if you need to? >> yeah. >> i'll try to duck a little left if i need to and the officer will go behind us so (inaudible) >> i'll move left if i have to. >> david 110, (inaudible) can you do that on the pa, shelter in place notification to everyone on this block? 10-4.

>> we need additional units to clear southbound shotwell from 18th to make sure it is free of cross fire. >> clear shotwell and 18th. >> where is he right now? >> once he ducked behind, i haven't seen him again. >> like straight behind the car, right? >> the last i saw him- >> the front passenger side? >> yes. (inaudible) >> block shotwell and 18th in case of cross fire. >> we are now going to play body worn camera video footage from officer number 2. this video will be played

in real time. the body worn camera video footage will begin with officer 2 initial contact with the subject and his actions leading up to and during the ois incident. >> he's running! he's running! >> (inaudible) >> 221, code 33. >> drop the gun! drop the gun! drop the gun! >> put the gun down! put the gun down now! >> drop the gun! drop the gun! >> drop that gun on the floor or you will be shot! put it on

the floor! >> get back! get back! drop the gun! >> drop it. >> drop the gun! >> drop the gun on the floor! put it down! put the gun down! put that gun down or you will be shot! >> northbound from-- [gun shots]. >> shots fired! shots fired! >> get on the ground! get flat on the ground, buddy! >> drop the gun! >> drop it! it is okay, just drop the gun! just get flat on the floor! >> what is your 20? >> 18th and shotwell. [multiple speakers] >> put the gun down!

>> drop the gun! drop the gun! >> drop the gun on the floor! alright, nobody wants to get shot today! just put it down. >> still got the gun, shots fired, behind the car, still not cooperative. >> shots fired from (inaudible) suspect is behind the vehicle, not cooperative. >> just put it down, alright? >> trying to get a safe avenue approach. [police car sirens] >> suspect already took a shot at us. >> suspect took a shot. >> he's beheend hind the car, get down. >> i will bring a shield. >> unit with a shield.

[sirens] >> i have (inaudible) >> behind the car. he's still got the gun. he already took a shot at us. >> red car. >> (inaudible) >> just put the gun down! >> bring a couple shields up, one to the left and one to the right. the little red corolla. >> he's behind the car. he's on the ground. behind this red car. >> drop the gun, buddy! >> i'm good, yeah. >> where's your partner? >> he's on the other side of the car. >> (inaudible) confirming (inaudible) >> what's your name,

man? what's your name? >> shotwell and 18th. we continue to give orders, the suspect is non-compliant. >> (inaudible) [yelling in the background]. >> continue to give orders, the suspect is not compliant. >> (inaudible) southbound shotwell. >> i have no idea. we tried to stop him and he took off running. pulled out a gun. >> [inaudible conversation over radio] >> (inaudible) you good? >> yes, sir. >> (inaudible) on the passenger side.

[discussion in the background] >> jose, let's talk for a sec. what's going on today? what's going on? >> you guys be careful, he already took a shot at us. >> how can i help you? hey, jose, how can we help you today? how can we help you today, jose? put the gun down (inaudible) [inaudible comments in

the background] >> jose, can you put the gun down so we can talk? huh? (inaudible) jose-- >> david, 110. >> (inaudible) >> (inaudible) shotwell and 17th and nothing southbound. >> copy. >> (inaudible) whatever you got. >> copy. >> (inaudible) >> copy. shotwell and 17th pedestrian (inaudible) -pedestrian and vehicle traffic.

>> i'm not injured. i dont think. i'm not injured. >> (inaudible) >> yeah. >> (inaudible) >> a little bit. >> (inaudible) >> jose--(inaudible) >> jose, put it down. >> put it down, buddy. you dont want to do this. >> the red car, red car. >> david, 200. >> jose, we can help

you out. jose, (inaudible) we need to try to help you out. >> david, 200. >> go ahead. >> yeah, i'm going to declare this a critical incident and i'm going to set up my command post at-let me get you a address here. >> jose, how can we help you today? >> let's say my command post is (inaudible) and can you on (inaudible) >> copy. >> 300. >> he's in front of the right passenger side like leaned down. 221. >> (inaudible) >> no, in the car. >> subject has a fire arm in his hands that he is refusing to put down. >> copy no injuries, suspect still has the fire

arm. >> he is pointing the fire arm at us. >> pointing the fire arm, copy. (inaudible) be advised (inaudible) >> (inaudible) >> [inaudible comments over radio] >> i can see under the car. from where we are, we cannot see under the car. >> (inaudible) does n't see anything under the vehicle. >> is red unit approaching us? (inaudible)

>> anyone we can call for you? tell me what we can do to help you. [siren] [inaudible comments in the background] >> he took a shot at us. >> he is grabbing the backpack. >> jose, keep talking buddy. come on. >> (inaudible) >> david 200, has anybody

requested a 408 to stage? >> negative, not yet. >> 10-4. please have them stage at 18th and south van ness. >> copy. >> tell me what we can do to help you. jose--tell me how we can help. hey--talk to me, buddy. [talking over the radio] >> jose. hey, talk to me, bud.

jose. huh? talk to me. jose. i can't see you, where are you at? >> (inaudible) can you get on your pa and are make a shelter in place notification to everyone on this block? >> jose, come on man, i need to talk to you. jose. hey, talk to me, buddy. jose, come on man. here to help you, buddy. (inaudible) >> we need additional units to clear southbound shotwell from 18th so it is free of cross fire. >> need additional units to

clear shotwell and 18th. [inaudible comments in the background] you need to put the gun down so we can talk. >> [talking over the radio] cross fire. >> he's in front of the car. >> how can we help you, bud? >> was that us? >> was that us or the suspect? >> jose! jose! come on bud. how can i help you, man? jose- >> we have ois.

>> jose. >> up or down? >> jose, talk to me bud. >> shots fired. the suspect is still moving. >> jose, you going to talk to me? >> still moving (inaudible) >> what's going on? jose--i can't. i need to help you, bud. you know i can't do that. jose--come on. we need to talk. >> frank, give me a rifle. give me a rifle. >> we don't want to hurt your bud. we don't want to hurt you buddy. jose.

>> we are now going to play body worn camera video footage from officer 3. this video will be played real time. the body worn camera video footage begin with officer 3 actions leading up to and during the ois incident. >> is there someone we can call for you? hey, is there anyone we can call for you? >> no. >> no. tell me what (inaudible) >> you cant go anywhere, jose. >> when he comes up with the gun, we'll just back off to the right behind the car here, alright? >> you got to put that down. huh? >> (inaudible) >> a black hand gun.

>> jose--jose. jose, talk to me buddy, come on. i need to talk to you. you can't leave until we settle this. jose. >> is there a way to bring a car on the sidewalk here from the back side? bring a armored car up here on the sidewalk. >> can you talk to me man? jose, come on man, talk to me buddy. tell me what we can do to help you. >> his left hand is on the ground. he's on his knees. not sure if he is peaking underneath the car or not. >> jose. hey. jose, keep talking to me buddy. >> bring the armored

car up here guys, alright? >> (inaudible) >> jose, i can't hear you, bud. what's going on? huh? jose. talk to me bud. jose. what's going on? huh? can you talk to me? jose--i can't see you man, where are you at? >> i can't see in front of the-he might be slowly shifting to the right. he has his left hand on the ground in front still. okay. i'm backing up. >> jose. keep talking to me. >> bring it farther,

bring it farther. angle it in. angle it in. yep. keep coming, keep coming, keep coming, keep coming. stop there. get out, get out. get out. get out. i'm going to use the car. back up, back up. i'm going to get my rifle. >> they are talking to him. >> hey guys--i'm going forward. yep. >> (inaudible) >> got it pointed in this direction. >> how can we help you?

>> i shot. shots fired. that was us. (inaudible) >> come on, buddy. how can we help you, man? >> i fired, i fired. >> jose--(inaudible) jose, (inaudible) >> he is down but still crawling around. >> jose. jose. hey, jose, can you talk to me? what's going on? (inaudible) jose. >> get out of here! >> i can't. i'm here to help you, bud. >> get out of here! >> you know i can't do that. >> i saw a gun pointed in my direction, multiple times. >> you okay?

>> i'm okay. >> frank, give me a rifle. >> jose. (inaudible) >> come on out. >> we don't want multiple- >> get up there and replace him. you just had shots fired. >> yes, sir. >> we are now going to play body worn camera video footage from officer number 4. this video will be played in real time. the body worn camera video footage will be begin with officer number 4 actions leading up to and are during the ois incident. >> come on out. >> we dont want- >> get up there, you replace. >> did you (inaudible)

>> we got it get you some help. >> he is standing up again. >> jose, come on! >> he's pointing the gun again. >> jose! >> where's he at? >> looks like he-i can't see him anymore. >> jose, how can i help you, man. jose. >> talk to us, jose. we want to help you. >> (inaudible) 17th and shotwell-he's crawling over and (inaudible) >> (inaudible) something in right hand. >> (inaudible) so we can talk. >> which way is he

crawling? >> he's crawling towards the center of the street. he is peaking over the silver car and he is manipulating a object in his right hand. >> jose, come on buddy i ed92 to talk to you. >> crawling towards thesenter of the street. assuming something in his right hand. >> jose. hey, jose--come on man, i can help you out. >> (inaudible) >> yeah. you want a platform? >> he is sitting on his butt. [multiple speakers] his hand on are (inaudible) >> suspect is sitting on-his hands on his butt.

>> jose, i can't hear you, bud. what do you need, man? >> fuck. >> jose. jose. hey, man, put the gun away, dude. hey, jose--i need to talk to you so i can help you. what do you need, man? you can

make it easy by coming out and talking to me. jose. (inaudible) >> john 60, he's on his knees and looking over the passenger side of the car. still got something in his hand. >> suspect on his knees (inaudible) >> nobody is going to hurt you, man. hey, jose nobody is here to hurt you. >> (inaudible) bring them to the (inaudible) >> jose. >> (inaudible) >> come up opposite

direction, 17th street side. (inaudible) he's crawling towards the middle of the street again. >> copy. >> (inaudible) >> suspect is crawling in the middle of the street in the direction of (inaudible) >> jose. tell me what i can do to help you. that's what we are here for. >> jose, just crawl out, lay down on your stomach- >> (inaudible) he keeps like raising the gun, so i need to--

>> i don't see any blood or anything. >> hey, jose. (inaudible) >> he's raising his right hand. >> copy, raise right hand. (inaudible) >> jose. come out from the car so we can help you out. what's that? nobody wants to hurt you. hey, jose, come on.

we'll get you the help you need, man. jose. >> (inaudible) >> blue bag, (inaudible) >> what do you need, man? >> i just saw him peak his head over. yeah. he's doing it over the- >> (inaudible) david 200. >> jose, are you hurt? jose. come on out so we can help you, man. jose. jose.

just come out, put the gun down, and we can help you out. you got to come out so you can let me know what you need. can't help you when you are over there. what's that? jose. >> i can see the top of his head. he's still right behind the hood. right in front of the hood. >> jose. come on man, you know we can't leave until you come

out. we can help you. what's that? jose, come on man. just want to talk to you, jose. [speaking in the background] you got to come out so i can hear you. hey, jose, put the gun down, come out so we can talk. >> [talking in the background] >> how say, can you come out from behind the car?

jose, put the gun down, come out and let me know what you need. jose. hey, jose. hey, you got anyone we can call for you? >> (inaudible) >> what's the location of the incident? >> (inaudible) >> huh? hey, jose--

>> (inaudible) >> jose. hey, jose, put the gun away, come on out (inaudible) >> who's running it? >> (inaudible) >> jose. hey buddy, keep talking to me. what's that? >> [indecernable comments over radio] >> can't leave. i got to get you some help, jose. (inaudible) nobody wants to get hurt, jose. jose. >> (inaudible)

>> (inaudible) >> (inaudible) >> there are two people there? >> (inaudible) >> copy. (inaudible) with a backpack, right next to each other. >> jose. can you put your gun up and come out so we can talk? you got to come out so i can help you. what's that? jose, are you by yourself? jose. what's that? hey,

jose. jose. you have someone with you? what's that? come out so we can help you. you know we can't leave until we get you some help. hey, jose. come on man. we can get you the help

you need. jose. jose, put the gun down and come out with your hands up. that is the only way we can help you, jose. jose, come on man, nobody wants to get hurt, nobody wants to hurt you, alright? we cant do that. you know that. i don't understand what you are saying, you have to come up. put the gun down and talk to me. huh? >> go! >> i can't. >> (inaudible) >> we are here to help you,

jose. >> (inaudible) [multiple speakers] >> do you see his green hat right there? >> shotwell and 18th. >> come on buddy. >> copy. (inaudible) northbound shotwell from 18th. >> jose, come on. put the gun down and come out with your hands up. jose. >> i can see the top of his head. like a green beanie or something. he is still in the same spot. >> jose. >> are there two suspects involved?

>> i can't him anymore. [multiple speakers] >> is there another person over there? >> (inaudible) one in shorts and (inaudible) they are sitting right next to each other. >> which suspect has shorts, the blue t-shirt or gray backpack? >> it is like a green shirt-- >> he just pointed the gun at us. i can't see him, i can just see the gun. >> all black and he has a grayish backpack. >> copy. the first suspect is (inaudible) green shirt or jacket and shorts. second possible involved suspect is all black and gray backpack. >> they are right next

to a honda vehicle. >> copy. (inaudible) >> jose. >> what color honda are you seeing? >> silver honda. >> he's talking about a different fuckin car. >> it is a hatch back. >> those are civilians taking cover. we are just focusing on the orange burgundy looking toyota. >> what's that? >> (inaudible) orange or burgundy toyota. hatch back. >> jose. put the gun down, come out with your hands up so we can talk. >> that is correct, dispatch. silver honda is

(inaudible) those are civilians just taking cover. >> be advised, silver honda is taking cover. vehicle involved in orange burgundy toyota. >> jose, still there? >> (inaudible) >> [indecernable comments over the radio] >> copy that. >> (inaudible) have everybody stay off shotwell. the best approach will be eastbound 18th from south van ness or westbound from folsom. (inaudible) >> he just looked up at me. >> nobody wants to get hurt out here, alright? we want to get you the help you need. >> i spoke with the

(inaudible) we have h & t97 and looks like poa just came in as well. >> copy. units 3 and 4 (inaudible) south van ness or (inaudible) stay off 18th and shotwell. >> jose. come on out, bud. come out. that way we can get you some help. whatever you need, man. jose. jose. you still there? what's that? we are here to help you.

[multiple speakers] >> jose. jose, come on out, bud. put the gun down, come out. >> i told them to stage at 18th and (inaudible) south van ness or folsom. >> (inaudible) copy. >> (inaudible) jose. hey, jose, tell me what you need, man. jose.

jose. keep talking to me, man. what do you need, jose? what do you need jose? >> i can consistently see his head. the top of his head. >> jose, what do you need? >> (inaudible) >> front of the car. >> put the gun down, come out and we can help. >> can you see the gun? >> (inaudible) >> okay. [multiple speakers] >> jose, whatever you need, come out. just put the gun away, man. nobody wants to hurt you. jose, nobody wants to hurt you, come on out and

put the gun down. what's that? >> [indecernable comments over the radio] >> do you have a updated description of the suspect? >> negative. >> put the gun down. >> we have eyes on (inaudible) >> copy. is there a unit with eyes on the suspect that can provide a description? >> jose. >> all i can see is either a green hoody or green beanie. >> can't see under the car. it is army green (inaudible) and black shoes. >> (inaudible) >> put the gun down, come on out, talk to us- >> (inaudible) >> green beanie (inaudible) >> you guys got good cover back here. i will-don't turn around frank, just listen. i

will pull the (inaudible) and eliminate the guys in front of you, okay? >> alright. >> is there any other lethal cover there? >> we have lethal cover on the right hand side northbound and we have officers on the east side of the street [multiple speakers] >> is that you? >> we are not here to hurt you. we want to help you out, dude. >> (inaudible) >> confusing now as far as if it is one or two guys. >> i think that was something else. >> but that's civilians as far as we know? >> yeah, that's the gun right there. that's the gun right there. >> you want to switch out? >> come out and talk

to me. >> i'm going to (inaudible) just make sure- >> all i can see is the gun. >> that's fine. (inaudible) will be right here (inaudible) >> something in his left hand. >> jose. talk to me, buddy. >> (inaudible) talk to them right here, okay? >> hey, jose, come on out bud. you got to put the gun down so we can help you. >> can you slide up. is it safe or not safe? if it is not safe don't do it. if it is not safe don't do it. you okay? >> yeah. >> if you need to come back, just come back and reposition. >> (inaudible)

>> keep tight on him and (inaudible) >> jose, put the gun down bud so we can talk to you. i need to know what you want so we can help. >> you're good. >> jose. put the gun down buddy. no one wants to hurt you, alright. you can't leave until we get you some help. jose, come on man, put the gun down, buddy. nobody wants to hurt you. >> stand by. he's got the gun up. >> jose, come on, buddy. >> in front of the car. >> put the gun down so we can help you. put the gun down (inaudible) come on. nobody wants to hurt you. we are not here to hurt you, bud. >> nob (inaudible)

>> yeah. >> hey, jose, come on man, nobody wants to get hurt. we are not here to hurt you. jose. jose. come on out bud. put the gun down. jose, come on. come to help you out. trying to make this easy for you, okay? what is it that you want? >> can you see him? >> jose. you listening to me? put the gun down, come on out with your hands up, and we can get you the help. jose. talk to me buddy.

>> he's still pointing the gun. >> jose! [car alarm going off] >> he's still up. >> he's shooting. [gun fire] >> he shot. >> jose! >> (inaudible) >> i cant see anything, besides it gun. he's pointing the gun over. >> jose, come on out man! [gun fire] >> i can't hear shit! >> jose! put the gun down. >> he through it. >> the fuckin went down. [multiple speakers] >> jose, come out from the car. put your hands up! put your hands up jose! come

on, jose! jose! put your hands up! >> he threw the gun. the gun is right there. >> jose, come out with your hands. let me see your hands, buddy. let me see your hands, jose. >> we are no going to play the body worn video camera footage from officer number 5. who was a member of the arrest team. this video will be played in real time. the video footage will show the subject arrest and members of the san francisco fire department conducting a medical assessment of him. the arrest occurred 53 minutes after the start of the incident. this officer's entire body worn camera footage will be available on the sfpd website after this presentation.

>> go. go. >> i got cuffs on him. [inaudible comments] >> suspect in custody. >> (inaudible)

>> we are now going to play additional video surveillance footage of the incident. this video footage has been

provided by a independent party. the videos was from 4 exterior video surveillance cameras from a building located near shotwell street and 18th street. these video cameras provided different angles of the incident from multiple vantage points. we combined and edited the surveillance video recordings into one video to provide a sequential summary of the incident. portions of the video have been enhanced to provide viewers with a better perspective of the incident. these enhancements include, zooming in and out, slow motion, highlighting, added graphics such as arrow circling the items and the weapon. the overlaying of the had photograph of the weapon recovered from the scene. this footage has been condensed for presentation purposes. all the surveillance camera footage

will be available in entirety along with the enhanced version on the sfpd website following this presentation. please note, this surveillance system did not capture any audio. [playing video. no audio]

>> witness photograph. we will display one photograph taken and provide by a witness. this photo shows the subject during the incident. crime scene investigation photographs. we'll display 8 photographs taken by the crime scene investigation unit during and after scene processing. photo 1 shows a blue bicycle at the scene. photo 2 shows a red bicycle at the scene. photo 3 shows a fire arm with

a csi marker at the scene. photo 4 shows a close up of the fire arm at the scene. photo 5 shows a blank cat cartridge at the scene. photo 6 shows the subject property at the scene. photo 7 shows department issued hand gun from the scene. photo 8 shows a department issued patrol rifle from the scene. this concludes my presentation, i will introduce acting peter shields from mission police station. thank you. >> thank you commander. my name is lieutenant peter shields and

i'mcurrently acting captain at mission statement for captain gavin mc keckern. officers assigned to mission statement regularly respond to calls for service at the areas of 18th and shotwell streets. since the incident, we have increased patrol and continue to work with our city partner agencies in and around the area. i have had many conversations with members of the community and will continue the open dialogue with residents and business owners in the neighborhood. we will be mentioning this incident at our next community meeting, which will be held virtually august 30, tuesday at 5 p.m. i encourage those interested to register via the sfpd website. thank you, and now i welcome back chief scott.

>> thank you commander and acting captain shields. and now we will open up the town hall for questions and are comments. >> public comment portion of this town hall will now begin. public comment will be held until 615 p.m. or when there are no more caller in the queue, which ever comes first. to call into the meeting please call, 1-415-655-0001. again, the number to call into the meeting is 1-415-655-0001. please enter meeting

code, 24854298818. next, enter password, 8378. each public comment caller will have up to 2 minutes to speak. if you wish to join the queue for public comment, please listen carefully to the following instructions: interpretation is available in both spanish and can tuniece. if you are watching on web ex, click the interpretation butgen select your preferred language. if you are calling into the meeting, call 1-415-655-0001. enter meeting code, 24854298818. next, enter password, 8378. you may press star 3 to raise your hand to get in the queue to speak for public comment. you will be prompted when you have been unmuted and it is your turn to

speak. once again, each caller will have up to 2 minutes to provide public comment for this town hall meeting. your 2 minutes will begin once you have been prompted you have been unmuted and you begin speaking. please be reminded, you must mute your broadcast you are watching in order for your public comment to be heard clearly. again, if you are watching the broadcast online, please mute the broadcast or turn down the volume completely to prevent audio feedback so your comment can be heard clearly. moderators, at this time i ask you invite the first caller into speak. >> hi, there. thank you for your efforts to keep our neighborhood safe. i am curious what the rules of engagement are in front of a school. i notice in the video

the officer from my eyes the officers pulled over the suspect right on the corner where a large school, k-8 school resides and curious about the rules of engagement, the protocols and where the lock down calls. did somebody knock or contact the school? what would happen if this was not a saturday morning but monday-friday when children was present? >> thank you for your question, caller. our use of force is policies are guided by our department general order 5.01, and it is online or any other members of the audience like to take a look at it, but it actually lays out and sets forth the policy on what officers have to consider when they use force, including the use of deadly force as in this case, and that include background, that does include the environment, and

laid out in the policy so whether it is a school or any other location where there is pedestrians or people in the background, officers have to take that into consideration and it is laid out in the policy and that is all evaluated as a part of the policy evaluation before this case comes to a final conclusion, that will be evaluated, both by the police department and by the department of police accountability when those cases that qualify for review are evaluated by them as well. thank you for your question.

>> hello. i am a administrator at the (inaudible) international school. (inaudible) this incident took place next to. our immediate concern is we were not notified of a active shooter situation and we are wondering what the rules of engagement or any sort of alerting to the school in cases such as these? school was not in session that day but there was live rounds fired next to a school yard and we want to make sure we are notified so we can lock down the school yard and get kids inside to where it

would be safe. >> thank you caller for your comments and thank you for those comments. you are absolutely right, and definitely in a ideal situation we do work with particularly in the school situation, work with the school administrators to help them to make a decision or they make the decision but we at least give them the information of what is going on so they can make a decision whether or not that school needs to be locked down, and in most cases that is a part of what we do if school is open. very good question and comment and it is something that we are very intentional about to try to mitigate those type of concerns and we have to act swiftly in a situation where somebody is armed and shots appeared to be fired, but that also when time allows and when we have the ability to notify,

make notification whether it be a school or any other occupied location, we do attempt to do that. >> at this time, there are no callers in the queue. reminder, please press star 3 in order to raise your hand to speak for public comment after you have called in. >> i'm curious if there is a link between the bicycle threft and bicycle storage we often see on shotwell on the block between 18th and 19th street and if there is-i know encampment was recently relocated the portion closest to 18th street. will that be relocated? there are still quite a few bikes and storage and tents closer to 19th street and what steps are you taking

to keep the bike thevry and encampments away from school campus? >> well, that is investigation-the bicycle is part of the investigation as mentioned by commander yep. that was one thing through the attention of at least one of the officers. we don't know whether there is a link to the location that you mentioned, but that is being looked into and that will be a part of the discussion in the mission station-next community meeting that acting captain shields discussed just a minute ago. there are many community complaints about bicycle threft in that area-in your area or that area in particular and it is definitely something we have stepped up our deployment on in that particular area because it is of great community

concern. >> at this time, there are no callers in the queue. again, to call into the meeting for public comment, please call 1-415-655-0001. enter meeting code, 24854298818, and password, 8378. you may press star 3 to raise your hand to get in the queue to speak for public comment.