7:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. no work on sundays. you are going to go to more months. this was supposed to be built on 18 months and could be more months. that's what happened on broadway. >> are you anticipating that you would be doing work on sunday as well? >> no work on sunday. >> just monday through friday? >> no, mondays, sometimes saturday when it's interior. >> okay, this is very important. i was literally two feet away from the project site and people that come to the site get up and 4:00 to drive to work. at least i learned from that that i may feel comfortable that if they start at 8:00 or 8:30 and my

bedroom is only a couple of feet away but there is another side to that and we need to understand it. thank you for that. >> thank you. >> the idea of providing additional support for community that has additional health challenges respiratory and so forth and ask for hepa air filters and other filtration from the neighbors seemed to me as a request for a project, is there an answer for that if i would ask the applicant. if you wouldn't mind helping us with that answer? >> we will provide masks, i don't know what kind of filters you are talking about, what kind of filters for masks especially during demolition which will only take four days. after that, i don't know what else they can

require. i don't know what else, i can't air-condition every 200 units there but we will provide masks and will be reasonable with that. if anybody has a question or of a specific unit, we can address that. >> many of us who live with covid and don't have air-conditioning are using the windows for ventilation. i don't know if you have a specific explanation when she wrote this request. would you mind clarifying what you are asking? >> also as a one time nurse, i'm speaking from that perspective which is given the actual population that currently lives there between asthma, copd, all

of these variables of being elderly they live right there next to this site. as the wind blows in and just thinking of the demolition, dust, etc, it is very reasonable to think that there would be an impact on these residents. if smoke was able to come in through the windows, the closed sealed windows after the fires, and the dust as well. in asking for not only because these are low-income folks, they don't necessarily have the money to go out and buy equipment for this period of time that there would be this construction. so, the other idea is also there are a lot of people veterans right there with ptsd and so loud noises are major triggers of very difficult episodic period. so the idea of having noise

canceling head phone sets would be necessary for their health and safety as well. these are the people who live there. so i don't think it's asking too much to have the developer supply the equipment. also to the small children and some may have allergies, asthma, etc. i think that's very little to ask for. thank you. >> thank you for explaining that in detail. you heard the explanation. >> it's adjacent to the building, that's pretty reasonable i think to supply some kind of hepa filter and masks. but if you are 150 feet away, and wind is the same. i can't supply everybody. i don't know how many people live in north beach.

i have been building for 45 years. we are good neighbors and we built thousands of properties in san francisco. we always work well with our neighbors. we don't have major conflicts, minor issues and we always work with our neighbors. >> this is obviously very difficult for us to establish the exact amount, but the most important is to be really aware of the large number of people who are very challenged not only financially but health wise because this is the only place near downtown san francisco where you have an accumulation of people who do need the support. i would like to find the way and i know you have been in business for a long time. i would like to find a way where we clearly are addressing and administering what can be done and what is being asked. i would like us to be open to the possibility that there may be a little bit more need than we typically have in

other places. >> that's what i'm agreeing to. one thing that we can do and we can even increase the height is to put a screen wallet -- wall. we can put it up 30-40 feet. during construction. that's the easiest and simplest way. >> that may also require to support the specifically ill people, but that is an idea that we should perhaps consider for supporting and being investigated by the department as well as a reasonable approach. >> commissioner moore, i'm notifying that commissioner diamond is requesting to speak. >> we also have commissioner imperial but let's take commissioner diamond. she may have been on the phone for a long time. >> commissioner sue diamond: thank you very much. i have a couple of questions for staff.

i understand correctly that this project has an application to be proposed that is not consistent with our group housing legislation that it could not be approved? >> nick foster, department staff. thanks for the question. that is correct. as proposed, the project is relying on the s. b. 3 application to seek code relief from the current controls which i believe are current controls. i'm not sure. the controls are current and they are codified in the planning code. so if the project were to come back today with a new application to your point, yes, they would be subject to your controls and the group housing condition. >> i understand those controls would not allow 56 group housing units without having kitchens,/community rooms for every 15 units, is that correct? >> that is correct.

>> i would note that the size of the community room on the ground floor is quite ample and i would have to quickly crunch the numbers if it's in interest to you. but it's probably pretty close to what that requirement would be. >> so i am aware of the fact that the project sponsor would include kitchen and microwave and what is under the legislation. my concern is having 56 units with no real kitchens for them. so when i'm looking at the picture of the community room, i see there is one kitchen in there and i can't tell if it includes an obvious or what size oven. can you give information about

that? >> commissioner diamond, jonathan pearlman, architect. it is a full kitchen with a full range in there. we haven't designed it at this point. we can add a second range or larger refrigeration, but yes, it would be a stove and oven. >> i would be very interested in having you work with staff during the design phase to see if you could add some additional amenities down there so we don't have 56 units all competing for the same. obviously they won't all be doing that on the same day, but in the absence of smaller kitchens around the rest of the complex, i believe that it would be useful for the people who live there to have more options than one option of one oven and one range downstairs. i would appreciate if you can work with staff for the design requirement stage. i

don't know if we need to include language about that but i would put that out there as a request. perhaps the other commissioners will go further, but i'm interested in that. that raises a question for me to the city attorney given the state density bonus project, i know the ability to tay'ler -- thai # -- taylor the project -- >> the deputy city attorney. the question is whether you can add to the community room? >> yes, whether it's in the finding. >> i don't see any inconsistency

with that. your main limitation has to do with denials or changes in the density of the program. nick foster has jumped up. i think he might have something to add as well. i think what you are suggesting has not affected the density bonus. >> would it be added as a condition? >> it sounds to me like what you are really talking about is a slight modification to the project description as opposed to a condition, sort of the way they modified the condition to include the changes to the individual kitchen? >> yes. so maybe it would be language modifying that finding to indicate a duplication of maybe the oven and the range and the fridge and the community room. >> exactly. >> my second question is commissioner moore raised a number of points about health and safety potential

improvements, including the potential noise filters and hepa equipment and screen during construction. i have the same question. can those suggestions be included in the findings? or does that comply with the state density bonus limitation? >> i don't see any consistency with those. although one suggestion i had made was as the commission often makes with other kinds of businesses like night clubs where you appoint a person to receive complaints, that might be something for the project sponsor to have a person that would receive a specific request or complaints from neighbors who needed a hepa filter so it's not tea

too -- eh amorphous of a request. >> perhaps we can have a contact person to address concerns and they can put together a proposal of concerns that we have measured today that address many of these concerns whether they be a screen wall during demolition, whether there is a provision of masks, things the sponsor can propose and that way it is consolidated, neighbors are aware of what their options are and they have a point of contact on one document that can be disseminated to all the neighbors. maybe if we can ask the sponsor if they are willing to prepare a brief document of that sort, one pager of sorts of our building

permit to consolidate all of those. >> my name is alice foster, the project sponsor. the project sponsor is going to submit with with reference to air quality a detailed dust control plan to the health department who have to approve it and specifically there are 18 detail requirements including one item is a room study to determine whether wind direction so that it is all part of that. so i think that particular document which is required by law by this city will take care of a lot of questions and concerns in terms of dust control. also the building department

have also a section on dust control which is duplicates some of the items in there and a little different and also most important is that the department of public health code also requires watering of the construction site during demolition, during excavation and also sudden types of construction. so all of that would have to be done and they also have to water the sidewalk daily and depending on the amount of dust they need to do it on an as needed basis and generally speak, you are talking about watering the site especially during the two phase which is the demolition and the excavation at least twice a day and sometimes more.

>> so that makes sense to me except that i would want to see language that indicates that in the development of those plans will take into account the specific frailties of the older adults and the trauma some of them have been through and whether or not additional measures might be helpful here that might not be required for just the normal purpose without older adults who experience trauma. those are my thoughts. >> vice-president kathrin moore: i would like in response to your question ask as to whether or not your thoughts about developing a construction site and examples for how to address the issues that could be framed

by what's being asked for and would like you to take the lead on that. >> sure, and i think all the items that have been presented what would be helpful is to be able to, those are from the city agencies and for those that don't know how to navigate the city's bureaucracy and include the requirements that you are required to meet and the documents and the construction points of contact into one document that will be submitted to planning and we can put on our website, mr. foster could be aware of so members of the public only need to perhaps reach out to mr. foster rather than hunting various documents throughout this city and the sponsor can have a particular nod and lens towards those vulnerable populations and making sure the measures that are being taken that

particularly help mitigate impacts on those populations are highlighted. >> may i make a point because the dust control plan is quite specific. so, we can put some of the other items into that plan, and then the health department approves it and then it is sent to the building department. the building department cannot issue the permit without that, and then of course they can issue the permit without coming to the planning department so you will be reviewing it. >> >> vice-president kathrin moore: that would include a contact person that helps create 24 hour breaks between -- >> i believe the contact person is one of the requirements in the ordinance already.

>> we would like to have the planning department to include that information and to the commission. >> we will be happy to work with the sponsor to coordinate all of the requirements into one final document. >> commissioner diamond, does that kind of encapsulate your concerns? >> commissioner sue diamond: yes, that makes a great deal of sense. thank you. >> commissioner theresa imperial: thank you project sponsor and everyone coming here and also ms. lottie for also explaining what it comes to desk control # -- dust control and mitigation plan. it is quite conflicting for me since we had a group housing

item earlier and how we looked into the context of the neighborhood and looking into the racial and social equity. given that this project is a state density bonus project as well, it gives the planning commission many limitations even though -- how we feel about state density bonus, but at the same time for me personally when i look into this project, it does look like this is something that is agreeable in the terms of the context of how it again as to what mr. foster mentioned in terms of the access to light and air quality and the way that this is built. so in that note, i have taken into consideration as well on how is this applicable to the state and city bonus, but at the same time being sensitive around the neighbors, and at the same

time looking as to what our housing needs. i again housing is -- group housing is something that i have a big opinion about and i believe it's something that i can work around and i share some of the sentiment of the seniors. in that note, i would like to make a motion for approval with the conditions given the discussion we had today in terms of the dust control, perhaps that's something i need help in crafting the language because i wants to be sure that we encapsulate all the discussion here. having a good neighbor construction plan being monitored closely.

i also agree in terms of the community liaison in adding a community liaison and yes, it is part of the conditions already, but we would like to highlight that as well in terms of meeting the needs of the nearby residents in terms of the needs for the masks, hepa filters and others for reducing sound. that is workable for the construction and as well as for the adjacent neighbors that will be highly affected. again, this is something that perhaps will need to look into the construction plan as well. we also mentioned about the sound proofing in the courtyard. i believe that will be part of the construction plan as well, right? commissioner moore? >> vice-president kathrin moore: the sound proofing of the courtyard is not just construction but ultimately the

modification of how the courtyard is visually and acoustically separated from the other open space. >> i would also like to note -- >> i don't want the impression that we are going to soundproof anything because that is not possible. we will take some measures in the materials we use on the inside walls to try to mitigate any additional sound coming from the use of the building, and any kind of reflected sound because of the enclosure that our building provides. but there are an acoustic requirements for the building code for transferring sound but there won't be any sound coming out of the building because they will be insulated and we'll meet the acoustic

code. >> >> vice-president kathrin moore: and you mentioned the screening from the open space. >> right, perhaps we can put some trellising so that greenery can grow up and that filters the sound because of the softness and its movement. >> also would like to include in the motion the comments by commissioner diamond in terms of the improvement to the community room, and i believe some of the things that we've said about no smoking on-site or curfew, i think is already part of the management as well. but i would like to put those conditions as part of the motion. >> commissioner if i may for clarification because this is a state density bonus a resolution of commission findings that typically don't carry conditions

but should be findings. >> okay, these will be findings. and i believe we have an informational document. >> the plan that the sponsor will provide to us as soon as we get it at a subsequent stage, we will forward it to the commission in your packets. >> thank you. >> vice-president kathrin moore: there was one comment about prohibiting short-term rental. that is something we would like to recommend. >> relates to corporate rental the intermediate occupancy, is a technical term. those will need to come to you before the additional use and you will determine whether that's necessary and desirable should that come forward at a later date. as it relates to short-term rentals, there are really stringent requirements for new

housing units in terms of the amount of the days of the year that the owner must live in the unit. so it's pretty constrained. this property would not be permitted to hold short-term rentals for any unit. >> could that be in the findings? >> perhaps could be recognized that this shall comply with short-term rental ordinance and any occupancy proposal would require an approval, separate and approval for additional use and finding for these two issues relative to this finding. >> i believe that's my motion. >> second. >> second.

>> >>clerk: all right. let me see if i have captured everything. the motion is to adopt the resolution amending the finding to include a good neighbor construction plan to be provided to the commission. to highlight the community liaison requirement for the project sponsor. that the acoustic impacts from the courtyard to include a material buffer. that adjacent neighbors will be provided hepa filters and noise canceling head phones and masks upon request.

recommended community room improvements. and i didn't hear this in your motion but i believe commissioner diamond stated something about additional amenity? >> in the community room, two additional kitchen appliance and complying with the short rental ordinance related to occupancy. >> on the last one, those are two different things. short-term rental and ilo, ordinance compliance. >> and intermediate occupancy. >> another one as i read into the record the combo appliances. it goes hand in hand with

commissioner diamond's finding. >> and the findings read into the record by staff. >> just a point of clarification, as she read it, it wasn't clear whether we are suggesting they need to provide hepa filters or noise canceling to every unit or is that part of the construction mitigation plan? >> the way i understood that it would be provided to adjacent neighbors upon request. >> i believe that's what the sponsor says for the immediate adjacent neighbors upon request and many other requirements that the health department will require that we will incorporate in this report as well. >> okay. >> did i capture your motion accurately, commissioner imperial? >> yes. >> okay. >> i think so, yes. >> you think so or yes?

>> yes. >> i don't want to have a 45 minute thing happen over and over again. >> on that motion. >> commissioner gabrielle ruiz: no. >> commissioner sue diamond: aye. >> commissioner theresa imperial: aye. >> commissioner joel koppel: aye. >> vice-president kathrin moore: aye. so moved., commissioners, that motion passes 4-1 with commissioner ruiz voting against. >> commissioners, that will now place us under your discretionary review calendar. as previously stated, our first dr for no. 15 has been withdrawn. placing us on item 16. >> 16. 2021-007934drp (d. winslow: (628) 652-7335) 3682-3686 16th street - >> thank you. again, good evening commissioners. i am filling in for dave winslow this evening.

i can assure you he has done all the hard lifting on the dr calendar this evening. i am here to assure it for you. this item before you is for a discretionary review of building permit permit 2020.1003.5809 to convert existing space at the basement level to an adu per ordinance no. 162-16. the project will infill an existing lightwell at the subject property's east lot line of the basement level. all work under this permit is to the building at the southeast portion of the subject lot and fronting 16th street within a rh-3 (residential house, three-family) zoning district and 40- the neighbor is concerned the project will cause slope instability and change the surface for groundwater. the

request is to reconsider this proposal. there are three letters in opposition and no letter in support of the project. the planning review of this project confirmation support for this proposal and supports the planning code and adds housing to the city's housing stock. the issue of groundwater and instability for geotechnical issues are beyond the expertise or purview of the planning department to respond or regulate in a matter. the construction practices during excavation and construction is appropriately under technical review purview of the san francisco department of building inspection and falls outside of the jurisdiction of the planning department and will review for these compliance issues after the planning department approves the project. therefore staff deems there are no exceptional circumstances that warrant this project to be disapproved and

agree in not taking the review and accept the plan as presented. i'm available for questions. >> good evening. my name is sash # sabrina, the architect for the property located. >> wait a minute, you are the project architect? >> yes. >> we should hear from the dr requester. >> sorry. >> >> first and foremost. thank you for being here today. it is my first time here. i'm only 29

years old and i don't know how you do that. i am exhausted. i'm here today representing my home and all the homes of my down slope neighbors. we would like the planning commission to rescind the permit to convert the existing garage space into a ground floor living space. on the surface, i know what it looks like, creating a public good of creating an extra unit from a parking spot. however, what the llc and the sponsor failed to mention is that underneath 16th and castro, lies an underground stream. that's right. you heard correctly, an underground stream and as many residents can tell you is there is a water issue. upon the plan, it's revealed that there are no groundwater mitigation measures put into place. no geotechnical

study, no hydrology study, no storm data from the last several years and there is zero consideration for the water table. last year 16th street excavated without any consideration for the groundwater. my building directly adjacent from the downhill portion flooded. 3682 sits at the very top of the hill where their excavation will cause soil instability. and all of these will be catastrophic. because of all of these reasons above, i ask you, this planning commission to rethink this proposal and rescind their original permit. thank you.

>> all right. okay, the discretionary receive related to her concerns about water infiltration. as she described and you can see from the photograph, the site does slope down, it follows the line of the grade. her property is two doors down from ours, the big white building. there is a building in the middle that extended excavation without clearly showing they would be excavating. they have no plans for the excavation. they dug quite far down and as she described it when there were rains that year, her unit flooded. so this is an example of a project that was done sort of illegally. they did the work without the permits correctly filed and reviewed. we are not that kind of design firm and

that kind of client. we have shown the detail of our work and always retain highly qualified engineers for our project. we do not want to see our project cause any negative impacts to the down sloping neighbors and ours. if it is a groundwater problem it would impact our property as well. there is very little excavation in the area and very minimal and she's four feet below from where we are. in the rear, i have a little diagram here and i will correct what we submitted in our discretionary review response. we have measured from the top of the fence down. there is actually i think, 58 inches

between our grade and the yard below at the neighbor directly next to us in between us and when we excavate we are excavating 3 inches and 20 inches below our grade area. this is the view towards the rear yard as well and you can see their site is quite far below ours and slopes into the backyard. so the areas of excavation here are going to show you that the red line that i have drawn in the middle is the area that which the excavation increases. we are only excavating about 8-10 inches and because there is an unexcavated area that crawl out to the crawl space and the backyard shows the area of excavation and the backyard where we are excavating we are actually flushed with the neighbor behind us and not

editing down much further than the yard there and won't be impacting their property either. there was a note that we are in a slope protection area, 25% slope. it is the very back corner of the lot and to be frank i'm not sure why we are on this map because if you look at the backyard it is flat. also you can see to the neighbors yard to the fence, it's flush all the way across. the big drop happens on the south side of the property down between us. when we first spoke to her after her filing we did engage a structural engineer to come out and he did five test bores and we submitted copies to planning staff but just in case you don't have a copy. we dug five different holes in the excavation and dug farther with

our excavation, we dug a hole down to six feet effectively. there was no groundwater, no water in any of these pits. you will see in the report at the end of march it reigned after that. we left the pit open for a couple weeks and there were maybe 3-5 inches of rain and then drained back out. we saw no evidence of ground surging below in that study. we agreed to have a geotechnical study to be completed. we have engaged that person and we haven't received a copy of the report yet. we have also agreed to prepare a detailed plumbing plan showing the drain from the very backyard linking out to the public right-of-way and that will be consistent to be required for inspection and we feel we

haven't seen any groundwater for exploration. if we encounter water during excavation, we'll make sure we provide a water proof assembly and not just for us but for the surrounding community. >> okay, members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission. please come forward or if you are calling in re -- remotely press star 3. >> there is sand and soil and

the moment you take that water away, where is that going to go. when you should doing the geotechnical study, i think it's not only important to do it during the rainey season to see where the water table arises to but maybe to the last hundred years especially with the recent climate changes and with the geographical nature of san francisco. it seems that the last decade, 2-3 years dry, next two or three years, really wet, a lot of rain. so we all have to take that into account. the house directly downhill from mine, they excavated and put in a garage and they put in trench drains, front drains all along the back and still to this day, they are still experiencing

water intrusion issues even though they did those measures. i'm just worried because this house on the very top of the block, they are talking about three garages, two don't need excavation, one does, isn't two units enough. must you have a third knowing all the risks. >> you have 24 seconds. >> i'm done. >> i don't see any evidence that we are going to be impacting the water table and never seen the water table and we have not seen the records that she is talking about. we are not really sure where it is or where it runs, but we do know the five holes that we dug show no evidence of

water. i think she was also mentioning that we have not filed with the dr and those have moved forward and this was done separately because it's a third separate building and our client wasn't sure whether to proceed and we have already seen on this project sense january 9th months in july to getting this one unit filled which is very consistent and compatible with the community. thank you. >> >> that concludes the public hearing portion. the dr is now before you, commissioners. >> >> vice-president kathrin moore: i would like to start with questions to ms. cologne if you don't mind. i like the idea of adding an adu where you are doing it. can you explain to me

the general nature of the building. there are many parts to this building. >> it's a really unique lot. there are three separate buildings. the one that the dr has been filed on has the frontage on 16th street and two units in the front level. the other two lots on castro street each have separate buildings and in between them in the middle of the lot is a kind of a weird funky courtyard that have these multilevel decks kind of harry potter. >> is this one building? >> it is one building. >> are we eliminating any tenant amenities on this particular level? >> no. so this particular project, this one permit application is one

basement level building storage. i think there is an electrical room. >> what do you call building storage. as far as i understand a storage in a basement of a rental building is an amenity space where tenants have in a cubicle. >> in this case the tenants don't have access to this. it's always been used by the building owner for storage of windows and doors, things like that. >> thank you. i like what you are doing and curious what my fellow commissioners have to ask. >> thank you, commissioner. >> >> i want to be sure. we didn't take public comment. >> we did. there was none.

>> i see what the dr is trying to say but there is not enough evidence for us and up to the building department at this point. i would like to take a motion to not take dr. >> second. >> there is a motion to not take dr. >> [roll call] >> so moved., commissioners. that motion passes unanimously 5-0. >> >> commissioners, just so you are aware, commissioner diamond needs to leave. so we are down to the four of you that are in

the chambers. >> okay, thank you. >> commissioners, that will place us on item 17. >> 17. 2021-005053drp (d. winslow: (628) 652-7335) 1334 12th avenue - east side also a discretionary review. >> thank you, commissioners. department planning. the item before you is public initiated request for discretionary review building permit application >> between judah and irving streets; lot 038 in assessor's block 1766 (district 7) - request for discretionary review of building permit 2021.0506.9906 to construct a three-story rear horizontal addition to a three-story single-family dwelling within a rh-2 (residential house, two-family) zoning district and 40-x height and bulk the dr requester, adjacent neighbors to the north are concerned the proposed project does not conform to the

guidelines and their alternative is to setback the upper floors and deck and add a lattice and the building on the side. to date the department has received no letters in opposition and no letters in support. the planning department's review of this project confirm support of the proposal as well as confirm the guidelines of the planning code and modified design of the plans of september 1, 2022. which is in your packet by adding a light well adjacent to the windows to provide adequate light and reducing the first floor by two inches and second floor by a foot and providing a screen on the second floor in response to the dr requesters request. because the second floor deck is screened and has a two feet

counter and extends two feet beyond the neighbor and setback on the dr requester's side, the site does not impose a privacy concern and does not warrant a setback. therefore staff deem there is no extraordinary circumstances for this project and recommends not taking discretionary review and approving the project with those modified and revised plan. it was brought to the attention of this hearing and posting that it was higher than six feet of the sidewalk. after consulting with the zoning administrator, he has delegated the decision to you all to determine in your judgment whether this item to proceed tonight or to continue to allow for renoticing. he wanted to refer to your judgment on that. but otherwise did not

find it necessary to renotice but wanted to note to all of you. with that, staff finds this consistent with this recommendation. >> would you like to discuss this item or continue the matter right away. >> commissioner theresa imperial: this is my opinion. i don't see the need to renotice this given that the dr requester is here and also there aren't that much of public comment around the neighborhood. if there is a bigger public outcome from the neighbors, then i would, but at this point, i don't see the need for it. >> as a reminder, the project was properly noticed and this is the only request we received.

>> >> we actually called to have a continuance. i'm really sick. they told us we didn't have to come in and then i was out of it. they have a key to my place and they pulled me out. we are asking for a continuance. i will talk on any issue you want but i'm letting you know that i was forced to come here by the project sponsor and david winslow and i think that is insane. talking about this. the current notice, every notice to this place has been incorrect. it's in a side window about 10 feet from the sidewalk. there is stairs here, if you walk up towards the garage, you have to look up the bay front window edge. it's more than 10 feet, more than six feet high. totally incorrectly placed. it's been that way three times and this is a consistent problem with the

project sponsor. everything is wrong. everything. he never does anything according to. you guys are great. they provide very succinct rules what to do. everything is in the paper. he's a graduate. he should be able to read. we are first asking for a continuance so i can actually talk to this because i can barely stand here. if you need proof, i can show you it.

>>clerk: are we proceeding? >> vice-president kathrin moore: i would like to ask that we continue this project. i was originally thinking it was okay seeing the slide, but also seeing the drawings that was delivered to my house where i had to call mr. winslow to send me drawings which are contained within the drawings. i think the commission who reads from paper copies has a very difficult time following this project. for that very reason, i think there is a conduct of care that this project should be continued until proper drawings are submitted, and the signage for this project are in the right space. i think that is a reasonable

request. >> does the team have time for that item. >> i will refer to commission secretary. i think you were not asked to speak. so you are deliberating. >> they should be afforded the opportunity to speak to the continuance. >> is this the moment? >> there wouldn't be any other moment. >> would any other commissioner want to weigh in on my point of continuance? >> again, if the materials are submitted especially if it's in paper form, it gives other commissioner or commissioners that rely on this position, i would support the continuance. >> did you want to afford the

project sponsor? >> i would also support the continuance but also afford the project sponsor time to speak as well. just on the matter of continuance. >> okay, the mistake was done in intentionally. the mailings were done correct. the drawings had a small am of dimensions that might be 6 or 8 inches off. we corrected that to the neighbors. they have had that. they have had the new plans and elevations, and nothing has been changed in the way of the design of the house because there is very little massaging of the existing or the dimensions on there.

there are bubbles on the drawings on the dimensions. so we have highlighted and we are not hiding anything. it was just a mistake. thank you. >> >> vice-president kathrin moore: is there a motion to continue? >> move to continue. >> to what date, commissioner imperial? currently there is nothing on your calendar to next thursday. so you can continue it to september 22nd or

september 29th. >> how long will it take to have the proper map or proper materials for us? >> i think we'll figure that on our own. >> commissioner imperial if i can suggest that there has been notification, if we were to continue it out two weeks, that will give us a few days and can be posted in a proper place that will exceed the ten day period and give us time and i believe it has to do with the graphics and the way the documents were photo copied and not in error. two weeks time should give us sufficient time to do that and

moving two weeks forward from today. >> okay, move to continue to september 29th. >> can you clarify, well, the planner will tell us the bullet points you want us to review. >> i don't believe it was an error on your side but what was copied, they fell off the page. the final pages 96 and 95. >> i think the issue is one of noticing but we are going to fix this as well. >> so there is a motion. do you want to second it. >> second. >> thank you. >> on that motion to continue this matter to september 29th. [roll call] >> so moved.. commissioners that

motion passes unanimously 4-0. >> >> that concludes our meeting. >> >>

>> let's begin. we'll start off with 90 second opening statement in order. welcome, candidates and thank you for participating. introduce yourself. tell us which neighborhood you live in and why you are running for district 6 supervisor. i will start with ms. billie cooper. >> hi. everyone i'm ms. billie cooper. i'm a 53 year old [inaudible] >> use the microphone. >> hi. everybody i'm ms. billie keeper a 63 year old black transgender woman. i lived in district 6 for 40 years. my whole existence has been in the tenderloin until we were

redistricted into district 5 the tenderloin became district 5. i moved south of market and lived there before. i have been a long time activist and advocate. i'm a person a long time survivor living with hiv and clean and sober 20 years. i believe it is time for a chink. i have been degree street politics the whole time. came to san francisco in 1982 and hit the streets rung because of the confusion and anger and segregation and the whole gammet in the tenderloin and oppression and homeless people on the streets. we have the same issues in the tenderloin now that were 40 years ago. it is time for a change. i'm in change i'm ms. billie

cooper and hope to win your vote or hi, out there your vote, people in tv land because i know what we need. >> thank you ms. billie cooper. >> next candidate in the opening statement system cherelle. >> good afternoon i'm cherelle jackson and running for district 6. i'm dedicated and committed to serving our under served communities to be a strong voice for this district. i want to ebb serve our seniors, disabled communities as well as those that are veterans. i want to continue to make sure you have an understanding of the work and my backgrounds that includes a member of the tenderloin working with labor and they have an advocate. cochair workers with disabilities the women's committee as well. serving on the social economic's committee. i do a lot of work community activism making sure homeless

individuals have the resources they need in order to thrive and placed in good how longs. i have done work being the executive producer of my own pod cast and making sure that provide my time to help those who need at this time most and ensure weup lift folks where they are at. thank you. >> next honey mahogany. thank you i'm running for district 6 supervisor. i grew up in san francisco. my family did in the they came to the country as refugees from a long war. my father at the time was a medical student studying in greece and protested against the ethiopian government revoked his citizenship and lost everything. he and my mother came to san francisco to build a new life. when they came they believed in the american dream.

through work and education you can do anything. my dad instead of being able to continue his work in medical school no credits transferred worked 30 years as a taxi driver and they sent us to catholic school. my family was religious and thought it was the best way for us to move forward. i did not agree with everything but i believed being a person for other, being of service and being the change you want to see in the world. i got my msw from berkeley and working to get folks off the street and into recovery and helping those who were incarcerated rebuild their lives. that's why i have done the work over 20 years it help make san francisco a better place. the cultural districts. saving small accidents and more. with everything that happens in the country now, we need san francisco to be a refuge for people not just from all over the country but all overnight

world but from other accomplices in the country. >> thank you. [applause]. finally for opening statements matt dorsey. >> thank you very much. i want to thank the league of women voters and also i realliment to thank ucsf it is personal one of the proudest things i did in san francisco politic in 2019 i had the opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with ucsf leaders like stan, valerie and john to take on joule labs when they respondent millions to change san francisco law to sell vaping device its means a lot to be here. it was the convergence of a public health crisis in drug over dose death in my journey and recovery prosecute addiction that moved me to ask the mayor to consider me as her appointee to the board of supervisors for a job i never thought i would.

or have. having the opportunity to be here, gives me, i think a rare and unique voice on the board of supervisors against the back drop of a record shattering crisis that is deadly as covid-19. i have said i will not be a single issue supervisor or candidate. if there is a single issue to make progress on a multitude of things in san francisco, getting more people in recovery would make a meaningful difference and enable our city to be worthy of being the city of st. francis. >> thank you all. now we are moving to the questions that were submitted by odd jens in advanced. how have you defined affordable housing and what specific actions will you take to increase affordable house nothing district 6? for this question i will begin with cherelle.

>> we need to make sure it is affordable for me i'm looking at working clasdz and lower income individuals and making sure that when the job they are obtaining can they afford house nothing that regard. if they can't that means we need to make more available. and that is a mile mark in my respect. especially for seniors and lower income individual who is have a hard time obtaining housing because it is market rate. because of their fixed incomes. i want to ensure we provide enough housing available for them to obtain it and needs to be affordable. >> thank you. >> mahogany. >> thank you for this question. truly, for me affordable housing means when working class people or poor people afford to live that is affordable housing. i know this deeply because my

family came here has refugees with nothing. when they came here in the late 70s that was possible they were able to find a small apartment in the sunset and crammed 4 or 5 of my family member in there and me and my brother were born and my grand mother lived with us we got by. today, this is not the case. i don't know how people do it now. we are still getting refugees more and more we get more transpeople coming to san francisco seek to rebuild their lives. ir met someone the other day saying i came here from alabama i was not safe at home. for me it is deeply concerning we don't have enough affordable housing in san francisco and we need to build more housing at all levels. the city needs to take into consideration how it is building deeply affordable housing. it has been my life's work. as executive director of the transdistrict i fought to get more affordable housing and subsidies in san francisco.

when i was chief of staff the at board of supervisors we fought for legislation we passed making sure those sro's pay no more than 30% of income toward rent. i worked on a variety of thing to ensure san francisco is affordable but we have a lot of work to do. >> thank you. >> i just find affordable housing the way the state defines affordable is worthwhile of looking at what the regional housing needs targets that will be governing how we will guild housing the next 8 years part of the 6 cycle housing element will do that. there is low housing, which is 50% of ami or area median income goes to low income 50 to being 80%. moderate is 60 ever80 to 120 and sometimes in prop b can go up to

140. i think sometimes we 92ed the flex at because we don't when we are baking manage in the charter how the compel be in years to come. we have aggressive targets and district 6 supervisor one thing i said in my speech after sworn in not enough as a district 6 supervisor to be a reliable voter on housing the district 6 supervisor is the conserves housing for the board of supervisors. if we are going to fulfill the promise of the progressive and ambitious housing elemented ever. we have to build supporting housing in our own district but also in every district at all income levels and we are meeting the tarts of affordability the state has set. i'm committed to make sure we fulfill the promise of the most progressive housing element in san francisco history. >> last question is billie

cooper. >> hi, everyone. low income housing is when we need. poor people couldn't afford, affordable housing that is number one. i am one of those people and until i got a section 8 voucher to afford a beautiful place in trinity apartments, trinity places that is how i'm living there. i could not afford that, affordable housing is a push back to poor and low income people. most that live in the affordable housing are tech people. you go from third of market up to castro and market, all that is affordable housing bmr a poor person can't afford a bmr. i know i know exactly that is happening my street politics an act viv.

i'm the face of the tenderloin. let's not forget we can't forget all the other communities in district 6. but we gotta stop leaving out the poor people of we have to get them situated in housing. during this covid scare. so many people were on the streets outside city hall. sleeping up on palette and a mattress and sometime not sleeping in the tent. because you are not there, that does in the mean you should not care for people living below the poverty line. >> thank you all. i will ask the audience to hold the applause until the very end. >> thank you. >> question number 2. what are your plans for bring retail business to the area honey mahogany? >> thank you, so much. i think it is everyone here

should know that san francisco has been hit really heard by the pandemic before that small businesses were struggling. the rents are just too high. and unfortunately, foot traffic is in the what is used to and be not enough to support the rents i know this as a small business owner coordinance of the stud. in order to save that business 16 friends and myself put the funds together to save that business from closure. unfortunately during the pandemic we were forced shut doors but working to bring it back. unfortunately, there is a lot of issue when is it come to zoning and permitting and the costs that it takes to open a small accident. when it costs more than half a million dollars to open an ice cream shop in the city that is a prospect that is something we need to work on. i will continue to work that i have been doing at the small business advocate work width small business commission and workforce development to take

the burden off our small buildingses. that's why i opposed the tax about to be on the ballot and luck low it is getting removed. we have been taxing and hurting our small businesses to the upon point they are not allowed survive. we have to do something about it and have to absolutely change the conscience on our streets to support our small businesses increase tourism and foot traffic through restructuring of streets and get people back in our small businesses and shops. >> thank you. >> so. what i'm hearing from small business owners in district 6 is that the main concern is public safety on the street. it is street conscience. people who are acting out violently and many case in my neighborhood i live in mid market, it is open air drug scenes brazen drug dealing and people acting out often violently. owner of harvest

market a friends of mine i known for 20 years attacked and knocked unconscious this is something we have never seenful mark sag on the works a block away at the box was had surge row on his wrist. he talked about this openly attacked he told someone to stop ticking a door. tony baloney's wife was attacked because she told someone to stop shop lifting. a degree of public safety issues i have not seen in the years 14 years i have been in south of market. i think we also have to i think the other thing i talked to big large companies about is what we can do to encourage people to come back and stop doing remote work. i know we are a tech heavy city and sometimes that plays out in this being a labor work benefit. but i said, i'm willing to hope the hood on the gross receipt's

tax if it means incentivizing people to come back to work. that supports small businesses. >> hi. again. testimony is ms. billie cooper. i am running for district 6 supervisor. i want to talk about policy and i want to talk about legislation and i want to talk about you know there are people that do and people that don't and for the left 40 years the city of san francisco has in the gotten it right because of -- people of color, white people. asian people, mexican people, there are no businesses for low income marginalized people. you know they said the city, i spoke to machine with the city and they said, ms. cooper, they need seed money a poor person don't have seed money to start a business the city needs to

create legislation and policy to afford people to get up to be able to open a business. i have been here 40 years and i have seen black people and brown people work nothing a business they were just doing working there they did not own nothing. i think we gotta make it cohesive and equal to everybody and not only in district 6 but across the city. we have to help people that realliment to help themselves but can't. so many can't afford a decent meal i was one of those people. when i got my housing my life changed and i'm so grateful i'm a united states disabled veteran that's how i got my section 8 vouch and i'm so grateful. >> all right. we gotta hit this in multiple ways. we gotta create tax incentives that help out businesses especially those impacted bite

pandemic. we need to ensure that we start to invest back in business. and create of a way in which they feel supported. they are able to obtain the resources in order to thrive and make sure businesses are running efficiently. especially for those defaults. we need to ensure that our that we are addressing community safety. i heard a candidate mention that. i agree with that you need to address safety as limp this is one of the things is a concern those in organized crime that affects the retail industry especially when you think about the square. you have to address those in a way you provide community safety making sure the staff in the industry i work in the retail i know what happens in the stores. and sometime its is in the the very safe conditions for them to conduct business.

we have been sure that the security is in place and investment in communities, safety and available ensuring they have resources they need. and making sure that the resources are available for [inaudible] making sure grants are available when folks need for marginalized and low income small businesses so they can start up there is a lot we can do in the way we address this so thank you. >> thank you. >> next question. could the city create a bus route from mission bay to sfo airport? i will begin with matt dorse y. >> i think that we could do that. i know that one of the things that plays out in transit often in the san francisco bay area is we have i believe 27 transit agencies. there is organization in that. i think that there are this is the first this is a refreshing the first time i got that

question that is -- novel. yea. this is something i would be willing to have a conversation with jeff tomlisten about at muni. i know there are private sector shovels here. that is something that would be helpful to the area. i do i'm a strong believer in when we need to do in mission bay. back in the.com era i worked on barry street when people hit golf balls. this was a place that jordan administration talking to ucsf about the growth issues on their campus. and the discussion was, may be we should look at mission bay? i think this is fulfilling the promise of an area that is a life sciences cluster and i am committed to make thanksgiving a success. so if a shuttle to sfo or any

transportation infrastructure, i'm committed as i am to the mission bay elementary school. >> is that my question, too. >> good ahead. >> i want to say, that would be a gang buster. air fabulous idea because so many people that live beyond ucsf and alled buildings here and the fabulous apartments and giant stadium who live further down third street most of those people can't afford 16 dollars one way in a shuttle to go to the airport. i remember before all this was here, the 15 the historical 15 bus used to come down third street. come down this street. i remember i used to eat across the street at the fire house before they took it down where the sisters prepared meals for the low, poor and marginalized people this is might have neighborhood. this is my neck of the woods. you know i have done street

politics and i'm waiting to get in city hall as district supervisor, honey they need to be taught a lesson how to run things. it would be fabulous i'm disabled and i love ticking the bart to the airport and it is half price. 4 dollars each way i would come down to catch the bus to go to the airport because it it is an experience for low marginalized poor people to actually be able to afford the fly out of the airport. you know so that's a fabulous idea if you need my help i'm here if you need someone to sit on the board. we need marginalized poor people on some of the boards. how you going to create stuff for us if we are not on your board. >> thank you. >> the question is could the city create a bus route from mission bay to sfo airport?

>> miami answer is a bit more simple. i would say that yes , i continuing is a great idea. a lot of folks do business back and forth. you got companies and industries that have to get to where they are going and this may be an efficient way to reduce traffic. think about the environment. think about how that will reduce the traffic back and forth and everything else. if well is a route that is directly for those that are here in the city and in this district. i think that we need to ensure that we are looking at transit in general. ensuring there are safer routes so that the care providers can get and continue to have investment there. and also -- making sure that i know there is work in regards to the chase center down the street here. that -- you when there are games and everything that could be a concernful i wanted to make sure

we also ensure we continue to make safer routes for those getting the care they need. thank you. >> yes. so i believe that is possible and something we can do. i would priorize making transit more reliable in san francisco and in district 6. bart is already goes straight to sfo. why are we not then making access to bart easier improving how afternoon muni committee t line or n. we left lane is transit that connects the mission to the downtown area. we need to make sure it is coming quickly. rather than starch a new shutsdz i prefer to reinvest in the resources that exist to make them reliable, consistent so folks get to sfo safely. >> thank you for answering. a reminder the questions

submitted by the audience in advance. do you accept pack undzing from outside california if so from who and why. begin with ms. billie keeper. no , i don't i don't accept no pack fundingien what it is. [laughter]. no running for district 6 supervisor we have a threshold you can take so much money from donors and not allowed to take money from corporations and outside entities. you know i think there should be a kind of policy and we should relook the structure of when people run for district 6 supervisor and any district you should be able to get more money from someone that backs and you

wanted to funds because i don't have a lot of money, you know, you know, i might lose this race but i know my heart has been in the right place for 63 years. and you know if i'm lucky enough to win i will do everything within my breath, everything while i'm living and district 6 supervisor to help the poor people. i know other people that got money live in district 6 and need help, too. my heart is with my people. people that look like me. you know. i have stage 4 cancer. i have one eye. you know so many disabled people are kicked to the curb well is no one that looks like that to represent them. i'm here to say i know i gotta stop. here to say i am for my peeps. >> thank you. >> cherelle.

>> i have not taken money in regards to out of state i'm very modest. that is not something i'm doing i'm trying to run a good race with integrity, honest and he respect for the folks running next to me and will make surety rest of the race is respectful and want to run it this way and hopefully others take this as an example in a way you see a black woman that can run without disrespectful or unupon kind and continue to represent in that way. thank you. >> for me the vast majority of my contributions all from individual donors the exceptions have been from unions who have contributed to my campaign. but there are some national and state wide organizations that have endorsed me and crashed 500 example california women's list. other organizations that may be

endoergs the victory institute or fund which is a national organization you know they make criminality 500 and i would, yes, accept that. there are organizations in groups i will not accept money for obviously those on the right wing, those who are evictors, people who are private prison companies things of this nature. private oil companies there are certain things are groups i will not accept money from. a vast majority from individuals or labor unions. >> my donors largely individuals. i think to the extent there could be something out of state it might be a labor union endorsement i gotten checks but most those are also from in state. i would happy uponly take a look at that i have not solicited

anything from out of state. and most of the funds raising i have been doing is among people i known for years and you know, early rounds is usually the love money. that's it for me. >> thank you all. call it sometime in funds raising love money like your upon friends. i will move on to the next question. >> thank you. >> so -- what is your comprehensive plan to address public health? i will begin with cherelle next. this is -- also something we have to hit to ensure that number one we are making sure our diverse and disadvantaged communities have the access to care. making sure that mental health is addressd and resources are available. i want to make sure our seniors

with access to health care and make sure it is accessible to them our disabled communities who need access to care and women and black women who may feel sometimes uncomfortable with the conversations about getting access to care and going to hospitals and getting care when they need it the most. i want to make sure that you know organizations that are available in orbit providing the resources that they get to the communities that need them and that women feel comfortable with that and having that rep centation be available to them all. ensure we get the access to care in that regard. >> there is a lot that needs to be done to improve the public health care system this . is something i worked on both as chief of staff to the former supervisor matt hane and he someone who had to access public

health service as a black transwoman we know well are specific care we need in our community. luck low in san francisco we have that cover said. unfortunately, with that care, as long as along lchs other health cares waits are far too long and some case deadly. i think that this is actually what is creating the crisis in our streets. i have my partner worked for years at general. as a nurse in the psyche ward and told me there were full and nothing people could do they have to be triage in the emergency and turned out in hospital gowns that is unacceptable not enough for the city to purchase beds we have to support our health care workers and make sure things are properly staffed. paying people a liveable wage to recruit people to the jobs and also making sure we are funding

the programs so they are appropriately staffed. what happens is people burn out. and then folks don't get the service they need and create chaos in streets i'm endorsed by many health care workers in this race. >> on the public health challenge that san front is facing that is more serious than anything we failed since the aids crisis. last week i proposed along with supervisor mandelman and kathrin stephanie an ambitious road map called, san francisco recovers. seeks to address the crisis in drug over deaths and the criminal aspects dealing with drug dealing and other things temperature is an ambitious program i spent 4 months reaching out to national

leaders. on the street level drug dealing task force. mike marshall from oregon recovers and many others. to identify the things that have work in the other cities including europe cities who have addressed the challenges public health and criminal justice challenge this is go with this complicated issue. wham we did we are asking 21 city departments to report become to the board of supervisors within 90 days on the steps they could what resources they need to do what other cities are doing. this is important to me. you can count on the fact that this never will be an issue of the month for me temperature is why i'm here. nothing less for me than the obligation of my own survival. >> ms. billie cooper. >> cherelle did not want to give me the mic.

>> yes! public health. honey, i'm glad you brought it up. public health is a very i remember 40 years ago public health was a big issue then and krez it is still a big issue now. i mean we are in the richest country why don't we have universal health care. poor marginalized people don't get the right diagnose. they get pushed oust hospitals like my fellow peoples my fellow board of supervisors y'all said. candidates said. i'm a little nervous. but yea, i'm know the face of one of the people who got misdiagnosed for years. i know what it is like. i know what like i said earlier. it is people that, cities that do and the cities that don'ts. san francisco wake up. we know exactly what we have to do.

we have to do. it is a shame they have not done it yet. i'm here for change. do we want a 12 more years of the same politics we just got, just left. do we want 12 years of the same nothing that was there before temperature is time for change. put me put machine like me from the other side of the track in city hall. you know let me bring up my game and show what you i can do. >> thank you. . that's how it feels up here. didn't it. >> weyy returning to the timic of affordable housing how can new construction be used to address low income and unhoused individuals and families.

begin with honey mahogany. >> thank you this is something that impacted my community as a black person who grew up in san francisco i was arc pauled see how many black people forced oust city including many of my family member when is we first moved here when i was born here there were 30 of us in the city now there are 2 of us left in san francisco. and people get pushed further east. i spent the last 20 years working on this issue. whether fighting to get rental subsity in accomplice so people stay housed we know is the most cost effective way of preventing crisis. in the last 4 years chief of staff to supervisor haney i worked on affordable issues and in preserving unit in so many arc permanently affordable by the city through the small site program or purchase of large

scale buildings like the panoramic used for people transitioning out of homeless knows the city must do more i will find new streams to funds housing in district 6 we said yes to so much including navigation centerses and we need more. nies people to transition out of homelessness we have them and need more. not only in district 6 i will fight to makure city does itself part we need the rest of the city to step up and continue to support the w that we need to do to get folks off the streets and into housing. it is sad on san francisco's failure to produce affordable housing it will be the state of california that is going to make this happen and not for san francisco but the state legislator and the governor have

had it with municipalitieses not doing their part and doing more to stymie progress rather than shape it. in the next 8 years throughout housing element or city has to build 82 thousand units of housing. 40 percent of this has to be affordable at different levels. and we will have to have serious conversations about not just if we can't get now we can't get a 4 plex legislation through the board of supervisors we will talk about 10 plex that is something i reached out to the d. planning on to make sure we can do things like local versions of state senator scott wiener sb10 and 50 theory ambitious and bring solutions. if we hope to make progress on affordable housing we have to think that big and creatively if we don't, the consequence of failure are immense we could

lose state funding for transit and affordable housing and mroel control all together that will affect district 6 which is why i will be a champion for affordable house negligent board of supervisors. ms. bill keeper. why don't people say low income housing affordable housing is in the low income housing my people can barely afford to live in the sro's. barely afford a sfud i don't. so many people in san francisco are on disability. social security. ssi. what you call that un. am. can't nobody afford, you gotta have something set in place where they are allowed pay 30% of their income. apartments here in district 6

builders in district 6 or kondzo kondzos empty near years. we don't know the correct number of people who die on the street from fentanyl or from heroin or crack. we need to sit down at the table. listen. san francisco people, we need to sit down at the table and create better policies. you know what y'all are not doing. come on now, i don't gotta sit here and keep digging a hole and you know hoping that tell get filled up with housing for people. you know we need low income housing. i hate that word affordable housing. ir ksdz not afford, affordable housing before i got my section 8. low income housing from section 8 changed my life and can change many more people's lives, too.

>> we gotta address this sxsh build housing in the staechl what we are not addressing can the fact that a lot of folks need good paying jobs. right. to live here and afford here. and if you are we gotta work with the industries and cutches out here that are providing the employers the providing wages for employees. think about it in that regard as well. if people have good paying jobs they are able to afford their housing. they are able to pay rent and bills and put food on the table. we have to address that and i think you also are eluding to ensuring that not only are we addressing and making sure there is enough housing available is that we create rates. that are at the rate in which people are obtaining funged the average amount of people in the city, how much are they make.

we need to look at that as well. and then correlating that with the pricing that we need to have available for folks and i think that will make it a competitive not a competitive, more available for folks and addressing issues like ensuring we reduce i will not go into that. the last part is i want to make sure we provide affordable housing that make it available and ensure that people have resources they need to afford it and credit a lower income housing as well. >> how issue you going to meet the needs of all of the conscientist wentss including the new once of your district, after the redistricting process? i will begin with matt dorse. >> this is interesting. you know can i was one of the board members of mid market

neighborings. the other thans can that we had was redistricting risked take a neighborhood defined by market street and dividing that neighborhoods by market street. we were opposed splitting tenderloin off the most elegant solutions to keep tenderloin and south of market together. when i had a conversation earlier whether was the mayor might want to talk about being appointed or interviewed to be appointed a, assumed the rational for my candidacy for the board of supervisors was base instead drug crisis in the tenderloin and south of market i assumed when redistricting happened the 2 split i was not be the appointee it is irrelevant haven't it so manyasm one thing we have to remember as supervisors is we may be elected from districts but serve the

city. i have made a commitment to my colleague dean preston i will be the best supervisor the tenderloin never electd and invite him to be the best supervisor south of market never elected we have the ability to work together on a lot and disagree on smchl the things we agree for neighborhoods we be joined at the hip i will continue to be that time of supervisor. ms. billie cooper. >> the redistricting. it was horrible. because i had to move i lived right on geary on the last street that was in district 6 i moved south of market to run for district 6 supervisor i was not going to let that stop me after 40 years in living in district 6

i was not going to be pushed out and office of elections telling me i could not get sworn in to run for district 6. i had to move. and i'm sure i'm not the only person who had to move because of their subsidy or because of their lifestyle the loip line is my home. tenderloin is was all i knew before i knew it was district 6 it was the tenderloin. i'm making the promise right now i will roll my sleeves up going out and talking to people and going to talk to different property managements and developers and get things right. because we cannot continue to keep leaving people on the door step on the curb outside. we have to bring everybody in. it really saddens mow to see people sleeping on patt palettes and mattresses and glafrngets for all the people that the sea

is just pushing toward one area that are out there selling drugs and using. we have to finds them and have to create a better cohe'sive way. >> okay. this is a time where we need to ensure that we are inclusive making open and working to ensure it is inclusive. we have a diverse san francisco. this is a place where we can ensure it stays and remains inclues and i have making sure people feel invited and supported. these are our neighbors we need to make sure people have what they need and invest in them. recenter folks and people here in the city. ensure that people feel comfortable we can all agree that we want the best for san francisco but we want the best for the district 6 in a way we

do that is continue to make sure that we are providing the resources we need toup lift our communities. making sure our under served communities have resures sources they need and we bounce back from the pandemic. right. making sure that our business industries are invested in, right. so they can our small businesses they can make sure they areup lifted, too. and i being we can do that and make sure we are safe at doing it, too. jools for me, this is a personal question. i spent the last 4 years working chief of staff in district 6 office and had the opportunity to work deeply with community groups throughout soma and treasure island. this goes back further. spent last 20 years work as a social work in this district. in the south of market in the tenderloin as well. and unfortunately we did lose

the tenderloin part of ref districting. but in some ways that does lessen the load a bit and allow you to concentrate on the other parts of the district. the west soma central soma, the east cut, mission baker treasure island, show place scare, district 6 needs attention and recover from the pandemic. as a small business owner i know the struggles of the small buildingses in this neighborhood and worked with many of them whether wine embarrass or whether it be bars like oasis or the eagle or restaurants. many other organizations i have deep roots with the filipino community in south of market. west bay or united i worked with all of the cbd's from soma west to east cull and civic center downtown cbd.

and there is a network of support systems that can be bolsterd and utilizeed best service this district. >> the next question. according to the cdc and san francisco government data there were 297 upon fatal drug over dose in san francisco between january and june. 15% occur in the soma. what is your plan to address this issue. i will begin with ms. billie cooper. >> as someone who used to run the streets using drugis know it is is purchasing drugs off the street, i know and i have been clean for 20 years. it was real difficult for mow to get clean and sober. we have to continue to be better at meeting people where they are. and you know the people that are selling drugs on the street to

the people that are sitting next to them. you knoween if we were to arrest the other drug dealers the people on the street when you are a dope addict you know where to go get drugs. whether it is right next door or a couple miles away. we need to utilize people that are clean and sober for numerous years to help you know -- get the people into recovery. gur but everybody does in the want recovery we can't force recovery on people. we need to have a plan laid out for people in addiction that want recovery. and that want it that want to use it. wants to utilize it and hopeful low to have a better way of life. but then we can't say that somebody's life that their life i can't say another addict's life is screwed up. i can't say that.

i will never say this. but as an exaddict and someone had used for over 25 years i will get out there and help the people. i'm roll up my sleeves and out there. why thank you. i will move to cherelle jackson. >> yes, we need to invest in self harm reduction models. we do this already in our private sectors as well in nonprofits. we need to make sure that there is investment in clinicians and facilities as well as our hospital and health care providers that are providing substance abuse prevention and mental health care. we need to make sure they have resources to conduct their job and invest in community safety options. and also ensure we have those resources available and we recognize other issues that need to happen. like investment in our community ambassadors i want to make sure

i indicate that and investment in making sure that we establish transitional programs for those that are ready to you know begin the process of uplifting themselves out of these condition in better continues to build back their life that is when we are looking at. folks that are struggling. continuing to have the cycle in and out of jail systems and things of this nature. invest and make sure there are opportunity for them to get in jobs if we are not building up their skills to be epieligible for jobs we will see a cycle. we are not invest to ensure they have jobs in the workforce and gotta recenter and focus in that regard. thank you. >> yes. we have had a huge drug problem in san francisco for a long time with fentanyl it has been more deadly. unfortunately, we have not done

a good job of addressing the needs. this goes back decades. as a social worker worked for 20 years on the issues, getting folks off the streets. my first was a council for larkin street i swheen it looks like on the grounds and work nothing city hall i seen the ways in the city failed to responded. city failed to listen to providers who know the work, know how to get folk in care and know how to keep will people in recovery and how to help people succeed. it has under if you believed many of the programs and you can purchase 100 beds if you are funding enough clinicians to get 10 staffed. you are only upon serving 10 patients. this slgz i worked on as an aid in chief of staff in supervisor haney's office. we need to i want to acknowledge we did work to establish a state

of emergency. i wrote the resolution establishing the state emergency in san francisco around over dose deaths and supported the tl emergency and establishment of the tlc the centers served as a safe consumption site i'm in favor of over dose prevention sites to deal with the issue we need accountability on the streets and need it for the city. >> the loss of life is stackering. sings the add vents of covid real lost 900 people in san francisco to covid-19 and 1700 to drug over dose. 75% of those fatalities to drug over doses are attributable to fence nal. upon over dose of fentanyl is 2 milligrams the people in the tenderloin will take about 55

kilos of felony nal off the street which it is enough to wipe out the population of the bay area twice over. that is terrifying on the east coast there are narcan resistant synthetics if that come here we will have a public health calamity worse than the aids crisis. i asked for this job and why i proposed the most ambitious and far reaching plan i seen or in the experts i talked to seen. since the crisis started here. includes aggressive public health strategies. treatment on demand. taking a look at the things we need to do with the criminal justice system. right to recovery. sober new deal programs to give people purpose and make sure we expand our transparency so the city has a hajj what it is doing

right and wrong. >> next request. your position on proposition b the public works and commission san station and street's department and commission. >> i will begin with cherelle jackson. >> while i have not taken a formal position on this i believe this we need to ensure we provide resources forker public utilities and make sure that we are also working to ensure our city is a safe and clean and operate in that respect. making sure our streets are can on a regular basis being cleaned. making sure we invest in our environmentally and friendly options that will hymn not cause too many to beingince while conducting business and ensuring there are resources available for this and also supporting

different operations within the internal system this needs assistance there especially making sure people will trust the system and the department then. and those resources are available. >> i think whoefrn has visited downtown san francisco or the tenderloin will tell you that the state of our streets is unacceptable. the smell of urine, feces. thing that children fear is poop. this is done from a study we did in the tenderloin. and this is something i worked on as chief of staff in the district sick office. this is why we did research all overnight country talked to workers of dpw to talk to everyone we could, business ordinance and when we did was listened to all of the feedback and created prop b the voters

passed by 66%. stake a d. sanitation and streets to be focussed on getting streets cleaned it may cost 7 million dollars extra if this means we have better oversight and have people rung dpw and department of san fragz qualified do that work e elimination corruption special we can get our streets clean that 7 upon million dollars off of a 14 bilgsz is worth temperature tour sxichl small businesses and the revitalization of city dependses on us succeeding at this . give sanitation a shot it is about to launch. lynch to the voters and if it does not work then change temperature this new prop b removes many of the protections against corruption as well as destroying the new d. i'm supporting prospect b.

giving voters an opportunity to look at something that will cost needlessly 7 million dollars. one observation i made in city government and when we see with the drug policies. i think it applies city wide. problem with infortunate delivery of city service system something attributable to scylloing and making us more scylloed is in the helpful. when i talk to people i respect richel gordon, supervisor peskin and we disagree on policy,s when it come to the efficient delivery of city services and public integrity aaron is smg someone's gentlemen i trust and had bayers remorse about this when we looked we concluded we should go back to voters. we keep the best both worlds with oversight commissions but i'm convinced that the public

integrity seperson to me. i was part of the team in the city attorney's office in 2004 that did the first report when he was rung the league of urgardeners prop b keeps oversight and keeps commissions but does not -- mean we are spending 7 million dollars needless low to scyllo the functions. >> the same question. >> with prop b i feel it needs to include more street toilets. especially in south of market and the tenderloin. we have more places that people can use the bathroom they will not be shitting on the street. people will use those bathroom. a study in the neighborhood about there is not that many

people shooting up in the bathrooms anymore. they move to the streets. shoot up and use their drug. if we have more bathrooms every 2 years someone is buying the 20 thousand dollars garbage cans and put toilets out there i would love to see south of market on eighth and mission i would love to see one of those green toilets there. i love to see one down by sickth and howard. and a toilet by fifth and bryant. you know i doentdz why they only victim them in certain areas the city caafford to do it that's why so much does in the get done dprnt offices and agencies create this policy for the red tape so they don't have to do it and serve the people. if elected i will change all

that. i will be out there with my people and talking to everybody i can. >> thank you ms. billie cooper. >> all right. the next one. city wide case management district 6 with ucsf and the city and county provides care to 1, 500 people experiencing serious mental illnesses every year. what more should be done to help those with unmet mental health needs and as supervisor, what actions will you take to address the on going mental health crisis playing out in streets i will begin with honey mahogany. i feel like a broken record i worked as a social work in the city and seen a lot. i will will say that we need to fully funds mental health sf. we will be getting our beds funded. but means we will be funding

enough staff to deal with the need. we have something we have thousands of people on our streets in mental health crisis who cannot get care they need. thousands of people on streets could get in recovery and could using up recovery beds. i think that we need to first make sure the services are in place and strong enough to meet the need. and then we need to work on enforce. and boundaries on streets. node to let people know, no they cannot use drugos streets that is illegal. we have to set boundaries if we have to resort to conserve torship to get the folks out of mindses they cannot take care of themselves that some be a tool. first we need to make sure we are fully funding the service [talking fast] wee have services people come in the place where

they are ready. not everything is recovery is in the a one size fits all. we need options for people a lot so something can work for them. >> i agree. mental health sf is promising and needs to be a part of with the san francisco strategy thshg it is a part of this. one thing will be important in terms of what i have heard from clinicians out in the street dealing with issues it is difficult for them ton whether someone is present nothing a mental health crisis or dug induced tell present the same way. i'm convinced if we make progress on the drug use acting out open air drug scene. issues. related this, we will be better em4ed and effective in how we deal with people who are

mentally ill. i think that when i talked to health right 360. in is about staffing capacity. beds recovery beds but mental health capacity. if we don't have the ability to staff this. the beds are useless. that's yet things i'm proposing is a new deal. people who are new in recovery who are committed to staying in recovery i'm reaching out. we have job training problems i reached out to jose about a drug program the best drug counselos have been through it themselves. gi wish i could drop things like matt dorsey does. it is dreadful. really dreadful. and for the last 12 years

nothing has worked. because it is the same way it was from 2000. 22 years of the same horrible issues on the street. and no one has created an anecdote to solve the problems on the street. tell take more than with the open air drug dealing. more than arresting the drug dealers. you don't need to arrest the people using the drugs get them help. like honey mahogany and matt dorsey said, there are difficult levels of homelessness and meantsal health capacity. i was throughout. when i was out there they could finally decided to listen to me. you can't give me a cohesive mental health diagnose if i'm crazy drugged out. if i come to your office drugged

out. you have to see people for more than 5 or 10 minutes. that's another issue. we have to see people that come looking for help more than 5 or 10 minutes. you know. we have to change the system and the way people look at thing when is it is really helping people. if you want to help people. >> so. as a social worker we worked with ucsf case managers. and some of the clientele and those who are needing services, you have to make sure the benefits are am available. and to help them get the housing they need to pay for temperature on one ends we unsured we worked with getting them the resources they need in order to get obtain services. and so under that, we need to

make sure we invest in protections for workers especially burn out. mental health. and making sure that there is resource in that regard. i would like to see that the nonprofit and department relation between the secretary sectors are working together. data provided to the service wars not everybody has access. people operate in their own deputies providing resources. when you know something is available you will be able to look that and up see temperature in order to do that we provide funding and software and training employees need that. in order to conduct the job. [speaking fast] i want to see that nonprofit and it is departments wing on home and wills housing have that software

to work back and forth. thanks. joof next question. what are your top community safety concerns for your district? i will begin with matt dorse. >> at the risk sounding like a broken record. you heard about san francisco recoveries and why that is a priority. one of the other 1s that is important i don't think we can accomplish much if we don't solve the police staffing crisis. there is a national phenomenon this is in the limited to san francisco. san francisco is feeling a staffing crunch in the police department that is a problem. 25% under staffed. and when that means is the work the chief bill scott has been doing the last 5-6 years to create a department that aspires to be a model of 21st century

policing the recent san francisco police commission did a nationwide search it find a chief like bill scott was because the reform our police department needed to do given the problem its had. we can't fulfill the promise of that if everybody is running to the next priority -- you know 911 call. it is about community policing. it building trust and recruiting from the communities this serve us. there is promise there, i will say that the last couple of police academy classes are more diverse than before in san francisco history. we don't have enough mrfrs that will be something we don't solve many public safety problems if weapon can't solve that. >> ms. billie cooper. thank you, cherelle jackson.

you know i felt so safe in my neighborhood when i saw police walking through the neighborhood. what you call that00 eye forget what do you call that. foot patrol. i felt safe when i i felt more cohesively sense of safety seeing the police walking through the neighborhoods and getting to know the neighbors and the store owners. the people that run the shops and everything. we need more of that. we need people to clean the streets more. we really do. people have to clean the city and county of san francisco needs to clean the streets more. because when they clean it once a week or every 2 weeks bite time they come back it is really screwed up. i think we know this will kill my career i think we need more

police, also and need police that are culturally sensitively trained and cultural competency trained. people that electric like me when we call the police the numbers are high we have the police give us more problems, you know we get more push back from the police and some agencies in the tenderloin in south of market have found out that the police don't always write up a report when certain people in the community that are called. >> i will go on to -- cherelle jackson. >> i called [inaudible]. you told me to stop. what are your top community safety occurrence for your district. oh. sorry about that.

so my top community safety concern system number one need to invest in community safety ambassadors. i think they are doing a wonderful yen if you are walking and you see a community safety ambassador they are providing food and help to our homeless individuals that experience homelessness and to those who are under served and underprivileged. you see them from street to street trying to make sure we feel more safer out there. and i want to continue to ensure that. i wanted to make sure we invest in harm reduction. i think that is important as far as upon addressing some of the issues we mentioned before the mental health and substance abuse. and they need to have the resources as well. and then lastly ensure we continue to look at way in which we invest in more safety for other industries and businesses

who need to feel supported within the commute and also our residential they need to feel supports and safe reside nothing homes and some of them looking out and feeling unsafe is not it is ideal situation. we want to make sure folks feel safe and are streets are clean and i had think we can do that together and working together and getting this done. thank you. >> again i think that everyone hereness we have a safety crisis in our streets. someone who has been work nothing soma and owns a small business in soma and live in soma i give you personal accounts times i or my friends have been threatened someone who shut down a bar when i bar tended at night it females unsafe. we had people break in the bar. people destroyed property and it staff that have been threatened.

friends hit in the head with golf clubs and arms broken and shot in the leg all within soma. this is personal for me. you know i agree that police are a part of the solution. i have family in sfpd you don't grow up here and not know a lot upon people who are active police officers. i believe we need to hold them accountable. i can't tell you how many times i heard from owners and residents the police were there and did not do anything that is unacceptable. thoo that should not be tolerated and need to get to the bottom of that. i do believe that we -- police salaries will go up that is normal labor negotiations. we do need to hire new officers but we need someone in district 6 seat who will hold them accountability and that person is me. thank you. where more affordable family

housing being built at the form are transbay center what other affordable serviceers needed does what your plans to bring those thot communities. i will begin with ms. bill cooper. >> the question submitted referring to fordable family housing built at the formy trarnz bay center. where is that at? that is sales force downtown they will not build no housing down there. the question is when additional affordable services such as grocery stores, parks and schools and what are your plan i will rt roll up my sleeves even if i'm note elected to get low income housing there. to get training for individuals to get job trainings to make it more cohesive to people to go back to school you know i have been here for 40 years how come

we don't have a safe way or something in district 6 or the tenderloin? people live there don't get a chance to have fresh fruit and vegetables. don't get a chance to have upon a chance upon to have upon produce that probably not a couple days old. i noticed that you know they had to make people put the fruit dp vegetables on the inside the sun was messingum and the fruit was hershel to make it simpler and easy for people to have a more afford at to a better way of life that's when people need. so many on the street we pass and ignore and upon don't say, hi, are looking for a better way

of life or look to are different. something different. looking to step up. you know if most people reach back and help a person or a couple people move forward this would be a better city, i think. >> so i think we have to do as far as the parks we have to work with sf park and rec. make sure they have the resources to connect a method of planning in regards to making sure parks are available in the district. also i think we need to look at also invest nothing community and farmer's markets that will provide the fresh fruits that the other candidate mentioned. and also making sure that as we grow that is something that will happen, for this year we'll forecast to have a large are population of folk who is want

to lay their ground roots and settle here we have to acknowledge those here will have to invest in those folks first. and what i mean by that the families trying to grow here already and we have to invest in schools and education to make sure they are available for those as well because well is in the enough schools you will see others that will be over populated. people will not have quality education we noot need to look at of this and operate it successfully looking at future years approximate how many in the area and getting it doneful thank you. >> for me, we need to focus bolleding more deeply affordable housing and making sure we meet the needs of those residence dens that means making sure we get a school in mission bay. that means make sure we have childcare available in the

district. we do but need more. i worked as chief of staff to previous supervisor matt hane and he worked with rec and park do finds new parks in south of market. to find piece of property that we could purchase and turn into green open space. district 6 is one of the districts with the least amount of green space in the city that has negative health and people need more to enjoy with families and exercise. and also you know we need to make sure we do that work. it is something i have done the last for you years special will continue to which i will mention that having affordable deeply trurl affordable food that is health tow be able to purchase is river in soma. many of the grocery stores are unaffordable to the families and many of them shop at food marts or the small are chain stores

and have prospects to help have fresh grocery in thes small are markets and node to do more. i will be working with office of workforce develop and small business to increase the number of markets and fresh food available in south of market. >> this is a really great question. the reason suspect if we accomplish when we hope to accomplish in the new housing element cycle the next 8 years everything you think you know about wealthy neighborhoods will change. if welhave and fulfill the propgs of foordzability on site it may look like an up scale neighborhood will have people with low incomes and a lot of economic socioeconomic diversity. we have to make sure they are not prized out because they can live there because it is affordable but nothing else is. so we have to do more on this. i think open space is a part.

one thing i'm working with small stores people by cigarettes is the ability to have all of those small buildingses pull resources to have access to things like or beganic produce if they purchase it together this . is a flam new york city has done successfully and i'm working with zouzounis and others and dropping the name. [laughter] it it is -- exciting and something we have to do. if we will have affordable housing that means we have socioeconomic diversity in neighborhoods that don't look like they need services that are low cost but they do. >> moving to our final 2 questions then statements. according to the city's figures

cost 19 billion dollars the next 8 years to build the affordable housing required by the housing night's allocation goals. where that money come from come hudo we balance opportunity for market rate housing against the state requirement for affordable housing. begin with cherelle jackson. there are concerns we have to be compliant and regulations near place and ensure we continue to invest in affordable housing [speak fast [address those heads o. it is working with folks and working with different departments to address this this means that we invest in making sure we work as a team to make decisions about building more affordable housing and i think we also need to work closely with the state. listen to the legislators and making sure we are work to ensure that we resolve this.

so that we can move forward. i think if we are not doing that and making sure we recognize the differences there, and -- the conflictses within, we will have occurrence. and we will continue to. we gotta move faster and make sure we have the decision and conversations and bring happening everyone to invest in more housing and do it at a quicker rate than have been before. thank you. >> i'm glad we are talking about the goal they are important and highlighting the lack of affordable housing built in san francisco. this it is not just a san francisco issue, it st this is not a state wide issue it is a national issue. if theed government used to be more involved in building housing and building affordable housing across the country. and as chair of the democratic party we have been fight to elect more democrats across the counts real so we can get

packages past that meets needs. we need to continue to gets the democrats elected. push our federal representatives in california to do more to bring resources to build more housing especially affordable housing and social housing here in san francisco. we need the federal dmrrz to come back. we pay into temperature we pay a lot of federal taxes and need the state to do its part. working with matt haney's senator upon scott wean and all representatives to bring the billions that san francisco produces for the state back to build affordable housing and have to prioritize and stream line the way in which we do that. we will continue to see people come to san francisco from across the country seek refuge. and in the state of california as climate change continues we have more people coming to

places like san francisco that are liveable and we need to make sure we build to pick up that capacity. why matt dorsey >> when i said that i see the roast district service supervisor the conscious of housing on the board of spriersz in part it is the local what we need to do to mic make sure we build house nothing all parts of the city in every district. and means we have to be the district 6 supervisor has to be fierce advocate for funding if the state is going to make municipalities do this, dot most ambitious set of goals in housing productions since world war ii we better do it right. do it equal and we had better make surety state is accountable for helping municipalitieses live up to the promise of this. when worried mow i think we are going to be going to be able to get low income around less than

50% ami and low income about 50 to 80% ami we will have gentlemanal support for that. there is another category that is the middle the moderate low income that is 80-120 that will be very doyle get funding for right now state and federal funding does in the electric at that. we have to be creative with social housing. group housing. everything has to be on the table to get creative about how we will do it but have to fulfill the promise of this. >> to build the housing required bite housing needs allocation goals where that money come come fr and how do we balance the opportunity market rate against

the state requirements. once again other low income housing we have to stop saying say affordable housing for low income housing or gotta stop mentioning affordable housing because so many people still are going to get left out. so many can't afford, affordable housing. here if san francisco you have to make 140 thousand dollars a year to have a sustainable life here. people are will some are getting less than 10 thousand a month here. a year. we have to create more low income housing and have to hold people accountable and hold builders and developers and

builders and developers responsible for not putting people in the buildings they builted city. upon girn people the right to opt out to pay the opt out to put give apartments to low income people that's why so mean people are on the street. we have to hold people accountable do audits and have to make sure the agencies are ethically doing the right thing to create and give people a right chance to live. >> and for our final quest evening before we move to closing statements, do you have a holistic strategy for public transportation for district 6 for getting in and around the city and also commuting outside of the city? i am begin with honey mahogany. >> absolutely. you know i group in the outer

sunset and i grew up on tear very well and 43rd we would take the l in the city to downtown my mom worked at that time in the fillmore took it every day. i know what upon transit a life line transit can be especially to folks across the city weigh need to do more. district 6 is lucky we have access to public transit but aside from the 14 most is not reliable. once you get in the south of market and once to get to treasure island it is poultry and i know i struggled take it and ends up late because of the inconsistency. for me as someone who worked as chief of staff on transit weave worked to bring back certain lines the 27 bryant and 31 balboa so residents get the service they needed.

we have to do more. we have to increase how upon often muni come. and make sure it is reliable. and in addition, we have to make it safer. you know district 6 is filled with high injury networks. i worked hard to build protected bike lanes bulb outs. scrambles and more. s and as supervisor i'm committed to do that work and make district 6 the safest. >> i think the downtown extension is one of the most important center pieces that we could have of our transit system. with caltrain electric and getting the caltrain to sales force tower to the transit center so the center is in the the most expensive buffs stop in the worlds. that will set it is stage for high sfeed rail when i talked about had the fact that the bay

area has 27 different transit agents and a lot of difficulties with organization and half of the agencies connect in district 6. so i think that the dtx in addition to creating 60,000 jobs. this will be an ambitious prk program and center piece of when we can do on transit. and i think that we have to make sure we doo everything we can to set up muni. i appreciate chair mahogany the one thing we have not talked about when we talk about safe streets we talk about period of time safety. i'm glad hoping that would come up as a question. i'm glad it was mentioned because this is we are going in the wrong direction vision zero. my first week as supervisor there was a double fatality.

we can't have to do better. >> ms. billie cooper. >> we need strict lus for people that ride bikes in bike lanes and scooters and people will stay off the sidewalk with the scooter. stricter laws to make people stay offer the sidewalks with bikes like matt dorsey said we live there have been numerous fatalities or seniors getting hit and young people getting hit by the scooters and people on bikes. we need to mt, muni, mta, muni needs people from the community, if i'm elected supervisor i will make it my purpose to bring in people consumers from the neighborhood to sit on the board with the people too many make

decisions for us we are not included. we need to be at the table. i'm so tired of people making decisions to cut out a bus or reroute a bus and not telling seniors or disabled people in wheel chairs or canes and crutches. we have to hold people hands to the fire. we have to make it more accountable. most of the people making decisions about the bus lines have drivers. that don't even take the bumps don't get on bart. we need to hold all the agenciless accountability to bring people from the community to help make decisions. >> thank you. >> so, yes. we need to ensure that we investing in public transportation absolutely. and continue top do so. people have to rely on this to get to and from work daily and

we want to ensurety resources there are for folks to use public transit. it is environmentally friendly. we need to continue to do that. also see upgrades happen. this means that you know some of the stops we need to make sure that the cleanliness of the stops look at civic center we need upgrading and just reinvest and ensuring we upgrade the section there. to provide a clean look. and more safer look. you know people are walking down the stairs to get to public transit daily. i think about the city workers that use civic center daily and heville to go up and down the stairs t. is in the the safest. and it is in the the cleanest. the reason is because there are different things that people have to step over. a lot have tolerated it for so

long. days are over we need to make sure we upgrade and make sure we continue to provide more trains, more efficient, fast running trains available. for our bart and muni, invest in more operators. [speaking fast] and work on this for the future. >> thank you. >> thank you that was our final question. now we will move to our closing statements from the candidates. these will be 90 seconds and will start in reverse alphabetical with matt dorsey >> thank you i'm grateful to the league of conversation voters and ucsf. . you know last friday was my 4 among anniversary of a member of the san francisco board of supervisors. i will say i came enemy with good axs to grind. i'm proud of the san francisco recoveries detailed strategy we

have that out lines ambitious approach on criminal justice and public health, right to recovery programs and encourage people to get on the other side of addiction. sober new deal programs help people in early recovery say and transparents initiatives. i went to the mat to fight for the people flooded out of 33 that homga to make sure we headlight bmr folks. i made sure i was elevated that to the city attorney to make sure if there was a business issue or ununlawful business practice it was investigated. i worked with the controller's office to get a report how much untreated addiction cost. i will fight to make sure we funds everything we need to and know how much attach is costing not to solve the problems and negotiateded with pride in the

lbgtq plus to have inclusive pride dithis in 4 months. give me 4 years and i will show you what i can do. next honey mahogany. >> thank you. thank you to league of women voters and ucsf and everyone here and. wag at home it hen an humanor to be on this panel with all of you folks here. i'm a daughter of san francisco. i grew up this is my home in a place that welcomed my family and community for many decades this is a place i want to see continue to be not just my home but home for many other people seek refuge. i spent 20 years work to make san francisco a better place as a social worker, i helped get people in housing. into recovery. helped work with those who were incarcerated rebuild their lives and take accountability for crimes. i spent 4 years working chief of

staff. working with community groups. residents. small buildingses on all the issues that matter to the residents of district 6. public safety. homelessness or building housing built 9,000 units of housing helping to run land use tha for our office that is more than all of the other districts combined and more affordable housing. i registered voters and fought to get democrats electd and as a small business owner i know the plight of small buildingses. i know bring so much perspective so much deep love to san francisco and hope to serve as the next district 6 supervisor. >> cherelle jackson?

[laughter] >> thank you again for having me i have been excited and really in the past couple of days looking forward to this. i am going to continue to ensure our under served are uplifted in district sick. i want to pooik make sure i'm a strong voice advocate for seniors, disabled and veterans, women and our lbgtq communities have resources they need for their communities to be uplifted. now is that time. to bring forth someone that is going to dot work in district 6. that candidate is me and i will continue to uplift communities as much as i can throughout my time in the seat. and so let's ensure the choose someone that is treed and willing to uplift all of you. listen to the work you need done in your community because you know best. and i'm ready to do that work.

thank you so much. >> you got my vote. >> billie cooper. >> thank you to the league of women voters and ucsf. i am miss billie cooper. the promise i can make that i will every day roll my sleeves up to get out there to talk to people and to see what the people really need and to talk amongst my supervisors in city hall and talk to the mayor. and have people you know, like i say, it is people that do and people that don't. we know so many people got elected that did not do jack, you know. because it is either they didn't care about the people or didn't want to learn. who is ever elected to district 6 supervisor you have to learn

about the people you are dealing with. it goes beyond 5 p.m. the job will go beyond 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. some days. you have to talk to the people that will put you in office. not only the rich people but the poor people. the poor people also. because poor people have a vote. because i am one of those poor people and i do have a vote. and if you see it you hear it in my talk, and i hope you will listen and see it in my heart that i'm serious and i'm going to get work done. you know sometimes i get a little confused sometimes -- >> thank you, ms. bill cooper >> time there. >> i can't finish? >> i can allow to you finish your sentence. >> sometimes i get confused sometimes i get my words twisted but my heart is in the right

place. because i am one of the many faces of this district 6. thank you and on november the eighth vote. >> great keg segue for my closing. [applause]. on behalf myself and the league of women voters of san francisco thank you to the candidates for participating this evening! and thanks to each you watching at home and the audience for taking time to inform yourself about choiceos november 8. please remember to register to vote and get 3 others to register if you changed name or move you'd need to register again. voting by mail drop off at a drop off location in mail on or before election day on november day for information including the measures go to lwvsf.

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>> first it's always the hardest and when they look back they really won't see you, but it's the path that you're paving forward for the next one behind you that counts. (♪♪♪) hi, my name is jajaida durden and i'm the acting superintendent for the bureau of forestry and i work for public works operations. and i'm over the landscaping, the shop and also the arborist crew. and some tree inspectors as well. i have been with the city and

county of san francisco for 17 years. and i was a cement mason, that was my first job. when i got here i thought that it was too easy. so i said one day i'll be a supervisor. and when i run this place it will be ran different. and i didn't think that it would happen as fast as it did, but it did. and i came in 2002 and became a supervisor in 2006. and six months later i became the permanent supervisor over the shop. >> with all of those responsibilities and the staff you're also dealing with different attitudes and you have to take off one hat and put on another hat and put on another hat. and she's able -- she's displayed that she can carry the weight with all of these different hats and still maintain the respect of the director, the deputy director and all of the other people that she has to come in contact with. >> she's a natural leader. i mean with her staff, her staff thinks highly of her.

and the most important thing is when we have things that happen, a lot of emergencies, she's right by me and helps me out every time that i have asked. >> my inspiration is when i was a young adult was to become a fire woman. well, i made some wrong decisions and i ended up being incarcerated, starting young and all the way up to an adult. when i was in jail they had a little program called suppers program and i -- supers program, and i met strong women in there and they introduced me to construction. i thought that the fire department would turn me down because i had a criminal history. so i looked into options of what kind of construction i could do. while i was in jail. and the program that i was in, they re-trained us on living and how to make the right decisions and i chose construction. and cement mason didn't require a high school diploma at that

time so i figured i could do that. when i got out of jail they had a program in the philmore area and i went there. my first day out i signed up and four days later i started to work and i never looked back. i was an apprentice pouring concrete. and my first job was mount zion emergency hospital which is now ucsf. and every day that i drive by ucsf and i look at the old mount zion emergency, i have a sense of pride knowing that i had a part of building that place. yeah, i did. i graduated as an apprentice and worked on a retrofit for city hall. i loved looking at that building and i take big pride in knowing that i was a part of that retrofit. my first formen job was a 40

story building from the ground up. and it's a predominantly male industry and most of the times people underestimate women. i'm used to it though, it's a challenge for me. >> as a female you're working with a lot of guys. so when they see a woman, first they don't think that the woman is in charge and to know that she's a person that is in charge with operations, i think that it's great, because it's different. it's not something -- i mean, not only a female but the only female of color. >> i was the first female finisher in the cement shop and i was the first crew supervisor, in the shop as a woman. when i became a two, the supervisors would not help me. in the middle, they'd call me a rookie, an apprentice and a female trying to get somewhere that she don't belong. oh, it was terrible.

it was terrible. i didn't have any support from the shop. the ones who said they supported me, they didn't, they talked about me behind my back. sometimes i had some crying, a lot of crying behind doors, not in public. but i had a lot of mentors. my mentor i will call and would pick up the phone and just talk, talk, talk, please help me. what am i going to do? hang in there. it was frustrating and disheartening, it really was. but what they didn't understand is that because they didn't help me i had to learn it. and then probably about a year later, that's when i started to lay down the rules because i had studied them and i learned them and it made me a good supervisor and i started to run the ship the way that i wanted to. it was scary. but the more i saw women coming through the shop, i saw change

coming. i knew that it was going to come, but i didn't know how long it would take. it was coming. in the beginning when i first came here and i was the first woman here as a finisher, to see the change as it progressed and for me to become a permanent assistant superintendent over the cement shop right now, that's my highlight. i can look down at my staff and see the diversity from the women to the different coaches in here and know that no one has to ever go through what i went through coming up. and i foster and help everyone instead of pushing them away. i'll talk to women and tell them they can make it and if they need any help, come talk to me. and they knock on my door and ask how i move up and how i get training. i'm always encouraging to go to school and encourage them to take up some of the training with d.p.w. and i would tell them to hold

strong and understand that things that we go through today that are tough makes you stronger for tomorrow. although we don't like hearing it at the time that we're going through all of this stuff, it helps you in the long run to become a better woman and a person >> each has their own areas of concern. the renaissance with the paint chipping and is not containing trash. the why the that we need to have a trash can that works for the city of san francisco came from seeing how the front cans are not working. so we wanted something that is able to enclose and willing to sloarn when they come to pick up a trash can, they can just put

it into their trucks and reduce accidents. we need to have a recycling exchange and nots to have large pieces of contents in twhr. we need to have everything clear and look good while we're doing it. we wanted it to be compatible with the surroundings as well as not draw too much attention to it there isn't a lot that is available to meet this requirement. then we thought this idea of designing our own trash cans. we need to go to a professional industrial designer that has the experience do a design. they came up with 15 or 20 different ideas. we picked three that we think would work best for the city. we have a total of three custom design trash cans and three off

the shelf cans. we'll put 26 into the program strategically across the city. we're trying to come up with one design. if the trash can is able to perform the way it's designed, it will save us in the long term because we're spending a lot of money to maintain the trash cancel. we want a solution to minimize the long term maintenance. >> we're trying to pick materials that will last a long time. that is variable depending on whether it's a beach. we're losing stainless steel. the coding that we pick is about a sen-year coating. it's pretty durable. we're confident that the materials we're picking will have longevity.

the designs are attractive and i think the materials are durable. people that come to san francisco or live in san francisco, these will be things you won't see in any other place. that's going to be a san francisco thing. >> i think the project itself is not a complicated one. it's going through all of this process, get us to properly do our outreach so everyone is aware of the project and gathering the agency approvals is the most challenging part of the project. there will be an on-line survey for the public and include qr code stickers. we'll analyze the data and provide a recommendation to our executive leadership team to make a final. >> i cann.

>> you call this meeting to order. my name is bob fuller, man tear jr the sanitation and streets commission. welcome to this commission's first standalone meeting. i will facilitate this meeting until a commission chair is elected as scheduled in item 4. i will now call the roll. please respond with here or present. >> thomas harrison? >> here. >> harrison is here. kimberlee hartwig-schulman