responsible for transit including taxis. who is the city doing this for? what is the city giving authorization and handing over non-regulated situations to entities like uber? what is the city getting out of this? please support the resolution. thank you. >> thank you for you're comments. next caller, please. >> hello. this is elana ingle in district 9 and with (inaudible) san francisco. i'm calling in support of supervisor chan's resolution. you know, first we allow uber to all about destroy the taxi industry after the drivers have untold hundreds of thousands of dollars into their medallions.

this is called invasion. next, we are allowing uber to pick (inaudible) they can direct taxis to do uber's bidding at prices set by uber. uber gives nothing back to the contractors the taxi drivers accept low compensation. the taxi drivers still have to pay their own expenses, still have tapay off the medallion while uber gets a cut of the industry they all but wrecked. this is madness and the policy needs to be resended. we as a city and mta should not be spending our time trying to make the uber money losing uber profitable. they lost all most $6 billion, billion in the first quarter. we should be focusing on transit, charging infrastructure for electric vehicles and moving all vehicles to electric. there is a climate crisis and gas vehicles need to be

phased out. starting now. and maybe we should also look at subsidizing the price of the medallions for the taxi drivers that we all have saddled with the debt once you allowed uber to destroy their industry. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, please. >> my name is lori leaderman district 7. and strongly support supervisor chan resolution. uber built their business model virkm venting government regulation and resisting transapparent when the representatives recognize the problemugeer business model (inaudible) they are committed to exployitation of drivers through circumventing fundamental labor law. equally committed to

maximizing profit which means serving under served is not on their agenda. surge pricing as a practice disproportionate imfact low income riders. they are a bad actor since inception. deregialization (inaudible) prioritizing true public transit not empowering a private inty to increase exployitation of workers and (inaudible) abandon its responsibility and manage and constrain congestion and hazard and injury on the street. uber is not just a transportation company, they are collecting information to further domination in the transportation market place and probably more then that. why on earth would our city hand over control of our streets to a known pred torry company? i urge the committee to unanimously sport the

resolution. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. please forward the next caller. >> hi. supervisors. my name is dennis (inaudible) i wholeheartedly support supervisor chan's resolution urging the removal of third party dispatch of san francisco cabs. taxi service is a regulated metered city service with driven by skilled regular workers. uber is a unregulated profit driven coperate (inaudible) the uber app versus meter rates is race to the bottom. uber opposed regulated guaranteed earnings for drivers. why would the city join in the race to the bottom? this is opening pandora's boxes, a recent speaker said. i am outraged but not entirely surprised by

sfmta approving the deal in april that requires mta to give up the charter mandated authority to determine taxi meter rates and give up the authority to uber. this is a slippery slope of priveatizing public service. please adopt supervisor chan's resolution. >> thank you. please forwards the next caller. >> hello. this is matt sutter. i'm a medallion purchaser. i want to thank supervisor chan for writing this resolution and supervisor preston for his knowledge of what is going on. it was no protection against uber and lyft whether we asked for it and now they are expecting us to bail them out. this is absurd. the reason why they are doing this is a money grab. they are all

invested in uber and lyft and this has to stop. i'm not calling on behalf of myself or the cab drivers, i'm calling on behalf of the citizens of san francisco. our handicaped and elderly passengers due to cabs picking up uber rides will have to wait longer times to get a taxi and it is unfair and the ada should look into this. we are finally making ground. we fought uber for years and we are finally doing better and now you want us to help them. this is absurd. you know who's running the show here. london breed, you need to get to her. she does not support taxis and some people at the mta should be ashamed what they are doing. the public has spoken. people dont want uber. why are we supporting uber? thank you again

for your support and we will still be here. we are not going anywhere, and please call it a taxi. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. please forward the next caller. >> good day supervisor chan and supervisor preston. i'm (inaudible) calling in support of supervisor chan's resolution urging mta board to remove third party dist patch from the taxi front fare pilot program. earlier i heard theprinted questioned by supervisor chan. it seems no wrun knows the impact this deal will have on the people without smart phones. i'm a senior enrolled in the paratransit essential trip card program without a smart phone and no app. i will be excluding accessing the taxi program since i rely on my land line. i take taxi paratransit service to

medical appointments and event and now will be in competition for cab rides with uber passengers t. is alarming mta seems to serve as agent for uber and not the public at large. especially people with disability who need taxi service. in fact, the deal approved by sfmta board of directors in april require mta to give up its charter mandated authority to determine taxi meter rates in public and transparent manner. uber will now determine the passenger fares for all participating cabs and this is nothing less then a privateization and deregialation of transit. taxi drivers i have spoken with are opposed. please support supervisor chan's well crafted resolution. thank you. >> thank you for your

comments. please forward the next caller. >> hello. hello supervisors. thank you everyone for the late day and hearing us on the subject. bret johnson a medallion holder and drives since 1994 in the city. thank you so much supervisor chan. i support your resolution 100 percent. if there is any way you and the good work you do and dean preston and the good work he's doing and understanding of the cab industry you both seem to have to cloning yourselves please and begin running the cab industry, i would be appreciate that and think i speak for many cab drivers. having the mta run the cab industry here since they have been nothing short of disaster. the medallion sales program i'm a part of failed and there is nothing happening with that. i'm a select group of medallion

holders that were meeting monthly or semi-monthly the last meeting was months and months ago and don't know updates and no progress alleviating the medallion failed program and all of the people that are turning medallions in just suffering. regarding the surging, i picked up european travelers at sfo telling me they are trying to book uber from europe before they get here and quoted a $150 to fisherman warf and surprised to find it is 60, $65 so that is what we are dealing with. this is a fare that uber wants to do and at the airport they want to take the fares because they get 110 or 120 of the 150 and will leave people stranded at the airport worse they are. i don't mind

going through a meter. i will never take aube were app. i don't know why we are considering it and-the cpuc-(inaudible) >> your time has lapsed. chair preston there are no additional callers in the queue. >> thank you, public comment is closed, and i have a couple other questions. you have amendments to make. we'll move those after. i want to check a comment i third mr. gruber made at least two other callers. the statement i think someone said that we currently dont have enough cabs to cover the demand and there is a shift from a hundred-dollarful of months where that might not have been the case. is that accurate and how does

it create concerns this pilot will make it where there are not sufficient cabs to meet demand of those trying to book a cab outside of uber? >> so, we are going to pull up a slide to show during the pandemic the medallions on the street plummeted. we'll show first the trips. just to see obviously had a big plunge down with trips and they started coming back up and then the next slide show the average taxi medallions in service per month and similar trends. you will see that there were over 1200 medallions in operation and then plunged to 400 and coming back up to all most 700, so all is supply. we have medallions, but are there drivers? the

fleet has the ability to flex up to meet the demand, and so there's nothing constraining it, so that the medallions are there again they need the drivers and need the trips, but how the market should work is that when there is more trips there's more interest in driving. i mentioned we added 74 new drivers in 2022, so these are dynamic factors, but the trends are going back up. >> do you have a projection or one you can share publicly of the percentage of growth in rides that you expect? >> we are looking at a 10 percent growth increase and that is what we will track toward but not sure so that is why we will track the metric and track the trips but that is what we are looking towards. gic >> thaujs thank you.

i assume you will track multiple ways to get at it, but if this is-goes forward, like i'm-a talk about what happens in terms of riders using the app. i'm interested what happens outside the app. to me one potential case for this and again i struggle with many sides of this, because as i said before, i'm very skeptical, but i can see a situation in which users of uber have a positive experience with a real taxi cab and then go and download fly wheel-i want to make sure we are positioned to be measuring the growth not just the sort of coming back from the pandemic

growth, but actually tracking the growth of ridership outside of this partnership. because i think one thing-i do think that there is a-it is somewhat generational. there is a different expectation orientation how one using a cab, where the upfront pricing may be very appealing to a lot of folks who haven't spent decades using a metered cab. and just expect that. and expect to be able to use a smart phone to get there and expect to know what the price will be. so, maybe to be more specific, how are we go toog track that and also are fly wheel or any other permit holding e-hill apps is there agreement with them to share data? i'm curious what are the number of downloads of the fly wheel app? does that

surge or does it plummet? if this arrangement is moving forward. how are we going to track that? >> okay. one i want to say that i can see dynamic you mentioned as well where if the trip originated as a uber x trip but there is great customer subs service with professional taxi drivers those could be new customers or returning customers. >> especially during surge pricing. i imagine getting in a cab when i pay $40 to go across town--that person paying $40 to go across town and the driver says, by the way, here is how you get a-if you prefer a regulated rate, probably $15 or $20? >> yes, that could very well happen and expect that. in terms of tracking the data, we are tracking how

the trip originated and so we are calling (inaudible) a street pick up or phone dispatch or e hill or third party pilot so we will be tracking that. it is part of our api, one of the requirements that we need to understand how the trip originated and it is referred to as hail type. >> got it. so, fly wheel or any other permitted e hill-they are opigated to share. >> that is right and they already have that requirement. i mentioned on the taxi with taxis we have a long-standing data requirement from the dispatch companies on trips and geographic information. >> got it. okay. thank you for those clarifications and appreciate everyone foolding all the questions on this and i will just say, i said earlier, i should say with so many folks

calling and coming i want to thank all the drivers who have persevered through all this. as i said before through the worst of multi-billion dollar companies try ing to come at you and for many many years before i took office i represented people who were struggling with their housing and can't tell you how many cab drivers in the city i have represented either on eviction matters or housing conditions and have really seen just how hard the work is physically, emotionally and financially, so regardless of anything else, just want to acknowledge that and thank all the folks in the industry who are persevering. supervisor chan, you- >> thank you chair preston and i want to first make a motion to

amend. >> please call the roll. >> on the motion to amend-vice chair chan. chan aye. preston aye. two ayes. >> thank you madam clerk. the motion to amend passes. >> chair preston i just want to thank you. i thank you for your knowledge. i think the drivers have said, i think that just really appreciate your understanding of the industry and i think that it's interesting we share the sentiment about uber and the transportation network companies in general and i think that it's not a functioning business model for workers i think in general, and the goal is how do we help and support taxi industry put into a

disadvantage because of the tnc? it is a interest dynamic that now we are-we have find ourself in. and it is because of that though. i do appreciate sfmta effort. i do appreciate sfmta been listening to us and in the communications however brief you actually-you communicated suggested amendments to this resolution that i think aside from the fact i think you would like to see to have the third party dispatch function remain, so you can understand the function of it, i are think that is perhaps our disagreement here. you had offer data tracking and i think there is a interest of how do we track these data so that we are actually have better data information point to move this industry

forward and for that i do agree and also because of that it is my intention today to continue this item to the call of chair so it allows us to room to communicate and have this conversation. i think that you have suggested to track the data and reporting of the numbers of taxi driver that participate in third party pilot trips. you have suggested that to have a comparison of the third party pilot trip fares to the taxi trip fares, and of course the geographic analysis. i also urge you to work with county y transportation authority to really understand the implementation of prop d and how this pilot program, especially with the third party dispatch-what does that mean for prop d and will there be sort of what chair preston actually suggested earlier, what it is that perhaps through this program and

through this third party dispatch function that the city can gain some type of advantage and perhaps i think cta can actually help and assist you in collaboration. how do we push back and through this function could we actually demand data from tnc and help us as a city to understand their impact on our city better? since we at this moment do not have a mechanism to gain the data from them directly, can we then through the third party dispatch function to do so? so, i am definitely open to those conversation and wanted to also circle back with what chair preston mentioned by price gouging. i think that is another conversation since sfmta as a regialator for meter pricing is there a conversation we can have through the third party

dispatch function to kind of better understand is dynamic pricing-like, does it actually work and which one is a better model and how do we level the play field in terms of way that we set up pricing? last but not least, i have heard that from some of the advocates for the taxi drivers and also as well as you heard from one of the caller jz that is something that actually i have been thinking bet is seeing you and you have seen a previous resolution coming from this board about just the taxi medallions and negotiation with sfmta and the bank about how do we figure out loan forgiveness, how do we move forward with the taxi medallion loans? is there a world that if in the event if anything of these third party dispatch,

again functioning and figuring out a way how we provide a subsidies and commitment of subsidies from the tnc to move the partnership forward? those are thoughts and suggestions i want to articulate and with that to say i would like to continue this item to the call of chair and with that motion so that we can allow time to discuss. it seems your next quarter meeting public meeting is november 22 of this year. >> not sure we put a specific date. yes, november 2022. i want to say thank you for holding the hearing and we took a lot of notes and heard a lot of feedback and comments and lights a fire to redouble our efforts on oversight in what we are charged with and insuring working to insure that our goals are being

met and it is a net positive for the industry, so i just wanted to acknowledge that and to thank you and to say you know, all the comments were received and we will discuss and take it back under with a team and look toward additional kind of these additional ideas on leverage and the items you just mentioned as well and we are happy to come back again and diswuss discuss where we are at, status update and what we are seeing and we are happy to work with sfct. again, i value the expertise on that team and in terms of our data analysis and are we getting the data we need to understand the metrics so happy to partner with the team over there and have them support-we have a lot of in-house experts as well, but it always helps to have a

extraset of eyes. >> for transparency and love to facilitate a meeting and converitate (inaudible) and during the continuance period thank you. >> thank you vice chair chan. appreciate your leadership on this. there is a motion to continue to the call of the chair. can we call the roll on that? >> thank you. vice chair chan. chan aye. chair preston. preston aye. two ayes. >> can thank you. the motion passes. thank you everyone. and let's go back to recall-don't know if we have to call them again. probably do or maybe not. items 1 and 2 we put over.

they were previously called. >> they were called so can go right to them. >> excellent. i heard from president walton trying to work out some amendments. needs a bit more time to do so and asked we continue this to our next regular meeting of gao which is october 6, so i like to move to continue items 1 and 2 to october 6. >> thank you chair. apologies there is a member of the public requested to speak to this item. >> did we close public comment previously? i don't recall. why don't we go ahead and reopen public comment to accommodate the caller. >> please pass the last caller through. >> hello. just wanted

to state that the expert in the taxi medallion (inaudible) >> pardon me. we have closed public comment for that item and moved to item 1 and 2. >> sorry. >> if you like to send comments you can send viae-mail as well. >> thank you madam clerk. apologies for that caller. public comment on the item is closed as indicated you can e-mail comments to us. i think officially i had reopened public comment on item 1 and 2 so i will go ahead now and if we don't have additional callers on 1 and 2? >> that is correct, chair, no additional callers. >> thank you. public comment on 1 and 2 is closed, and can you call the roll on the motion to continue items 1 and 2 to the regular meeting october 6? >> motion to continue 1 and 2 to october 6, chan aye. chair preston, preston aye. two ayes.

>> thank you madam clerk. motion passes and do we have further business before the committee? >> there is no additional business. >> thank you. we are adjourned. [meeting adjourned].

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>> i view san francisco almost as a sibling or a parent or something. i just love the city. i love everything about it. when i'm away from it, i miss it like a person. i grew up in san francisco kind of all over the city. we had pretty much the run of the city 'cause we lived pretty close to polk street, and so we would -- in the summer, we'd all all the way down to aquatic park, and we'd walk down to the library, to the kids' center.

in those days, the city was safe and nobody worried about us running around. i went to high school in spring valley. it was over the hill from chinatown. it was kind of fun to experience being in a minority, which most white people don't get to experience that often. everything was just really within walking distance, so it make it really fun. when i was a teenager, we didn't have a lot of money. we could go to sam wong's and get super -- soup for $1. my parents came here and were drawn to the beatnik culture. they wanted to meet all of the writers who were so famous at the time, but my mother had some serious mental illness issues, and i don't think my father were really aware of that, and those didn't really

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stable. my mother hated to fly, so she would always make us take ships places, so on this particular occasion when i was, i think, 12, we were on this ship getting ready to go through the panama canal, and she had a breakdown on the ship. so she was put in the brig, and i was left to wander the ship until we got to fluorfluora few days later, where we had a distant -- florida a few days later, where we had a distant cousin who came and got us. i think i always knew i was a writer on some level, but i kind of stopped when i became a cop. i used to write short stories, and i thought someday i'm going to write a book about all these ad ventures that my mother took me on. when i became a cop, i found i

turned off parts of my brain. i found i had to learn to conform, which was not anything i'd really been taught but felt very safe to me. i think i was drawn to police work because after coming from such chaos, it seemed like a very organized, but stable environment. and even though things happening, it felt like putting order on chaos and that felt very safe to me. my girlfriend and i were sitting in ve 150d uvio's bar, and i looked out the window and i saw a police car, and there was a woman who looked like me driving the car. for a moment, i thought i was me. and i turned to my friend and i said, i think i'm supposed to do this. i saw myself driving in this car. as a child, we never thought of police work as a possibility for women because there weren't any until the mid70's, so i had only even begun to notice there were women doing this job.

when i saw here, it seemed like this is what i was meant to do. one of my bosses as ben johnson's had been a cop, and he -- i said, i have this weird idea that i should do this. he said, i think you'd be good. the department was forced to hire us, and because of all of the posters, and the big recruitment drive, we were under the impression that they were glad to have us, but in reality, most of the men did not want the women there. so the big challenge was constantly feeling like you had to prove yourself and feeling like if you did not do a good job, you were letting down your entire gender. finally took an inspector's test and passed that and then went down to the hall of justice and worked different investigations for the rest of my career, which was fun. i just felt sort of buried alive in all of these cases,

these unsolved mysteries that there were just so many of them, and some of them, i didn't know if we'd ever be able to solve, so my boss was able to get me out of the unit. he transferred me out, and a couple of weeks later, i found out i had breast cancer. my intuition that the job was killing me. i ended up leaving, and by then, i had 28 years or the years in, i think. the writing thing really became intense when i was going through treatment for cancer because i felt like there were so many parts that my kids didn't know. they didn't know my story, they didn't know why i had a relationship with my mother, why we had no family to speak of. it just poured out of me. i gave it to a friend who is an editor, and she said i think this would be publishable and i think people would be interested in this. i am so lucky to live here. i am so grateful to my parents who decided to move to the

city. i am so grateful they did.

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>> good morning this meeting will come to order. welcome to september 29, 2022 special meeting of the government audit oversight committee of thboard of supervisors. our board presidenttia monwalton temporary in for supervisor mandelman. the clerk is alisa samara and thank sfgtv for staffing the meeting. madam clerk, do we have announcements? >> the board is convening hybrid meetings that allow in person attenance and public comment.

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