not so much the third party dispatch pilot which i believe deserves the unique goals and metrics to clearly define how it will work. i hope you will consider this resolution. thank you. >> good evening. my name is (inaudible) i have been working in the taxi industry since 2005. the business has drastically gone down so bad because of all the competition going on in san francisco. we i think the third party i see that it is a genius idea. the reason is, because we can reach all the customers we lost through the years and reconnect with them. furthermore, as far as like disabled people, they try to get the

transportation. i don't believe that uber cannot offer those services. taxi cab do. i believe that these third party will create more businesses and have more frequency clients for taxi driver jz put more medallion out there and have more jobs because there are a lot of drivers out of work. i think i hope you consider this third party. i think it is a solution. thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is george. i have been driving a tax 20 years. i'm a medallion purchase in district 1 and here today to emphasize the importance of the partnership with uber. our industry is

failing. if our industry is great how come the mta have not sold a medallion in many years so this is very important, we don't want to miss the golden opportunity. uber is brand. i know we don't like uber. they all most wiped out the industry. nation goes to war and become alleys so we can not dwell on the past, we have to go forward. uber is the hallmark of transportation. we will have non stop fares and know this because i'm in the trenches on the road 6 days a week. so, please let's not miss this golden opportunity and we have it go forward and we have a few drivers who object to uber because they have resentiment towards uber, resentiment towards the high tech. we cannot demonize them, after all the city allowed uber to

operate so found with the situation and partnership is the only way to go and those who object those don't have to use it. it is optional and they can not impose their will on the rest of us. thank you. >> hello, i'm also a old time driver. started-also a medallion holder, started back in 1988, so-i have seen all the objection. i have seen the objection when mayor feinstein wanted to introduce the super shuttle. taxi cab driver swarmed around the city objecting. i saw the objection when mayor willy brown wanted to release 500 medallions, because the city needed it.

the outskirts of the city needed it. the same people that are here today objecting to this objected to the 500 medallion that lead into uber coming and filling that need. they objected to every single attempt to increase more medallions to serve the city. they objected to bart go toog the airport. the same people are here objecting to every new attempt to improve this industry. this is about drivers and it is about the public. the public loves uber, because it is convenient. somehow it have a hold on the industry. we cab driver are struggling for fares. i don't know when someone is saying that the industry is doing well, know it is not doing well. cab drivers are struggling out there and we need

more passengers, and uber has that bank of passengers in their pockets. we need it. this is win, win, win situation. win for the driver, win for the public, win for the city. we need to embrace technology. we need to move forward. we can't afford to go backward. >> (inaudible) a driver since 1993 and medallion holder and manage fly wheel taxi. (inaudible) 2200 medallions and taxi. now we have less then 900. 900 not all in the streets. all i'm saying is, third party app will help increase our trips. help us

get back on the city streets and service the public and service the paratransits program, so please and support it and vote for it and keep it going. thank you. >> seeing no more in person public commenters we'll move to the comment line. please forward the next caller. >> thank you. (inaudible) supports the chan resolution. (inaudible) hardship for our members largely seniors and members with disability who do not have cars and need taxis for medical visit, shopping and business with friends. many do not have smart phones and they would find fewer cabs presponding to landline calls for service. many have limited incomes and couldn't-would not be

able to afford the risk. (inaudible) unilaterally set the rates by rides through its app. uber has a history increasing rates during high demands so rider rates would not be dependable and taxi drivers have incentive to avoid traditional calls for cabs. we stand behind and solidarity with the taxi drivers who have been put in competition with uber drivers and have had uber service rates and will have uber service rates deducted from each of their rides. there are no plans to regulate or cap uber service charge. (inaudible) business model of off-loading transportation costs such as maintenance, licensing and registration on to its drivers. why would the city want to give

open regulation of above utility by taxis to not regulated by mta? particularly entity with a history of abusing drivers, riders and the public. as we said, we are (inaudible) hundred percent of the world's cabs on the platform by 2025. mta has shown a reluctance to rebuild- >> thank you for your comments caller. your time has lapsed. thank you, sorry for the interruption. next caller, please. >> hi, there. calling on behalf of (inaudible) teamsters who join with brothers in sisters supporting supervisor chan (inaudible) urging removal of third party dispatch (inaudible) uber continues to enshploit the irk

withers with expansion of low rates model and cannot be allowed to continue. we ask the committee support our taxi driver jz pass the legislation. thank you. >> that you can for your comments. next caller, please. next caller, please. okay, it appears unattendeded line. please skip to the next caller. >> hi. my name is dr. theresa palmer and want to weigh in of support of supervisor chan's resolution. uber doesn't treat the employees well and

passenger wells. the pricing is pred tore, and you have things like people hurt by uber drivers and women sexually assaulted by uber drivers having no resource and uber not taking any responsibility. i would like to support our cab drivers, support people who invested in medallions and every cab driver i talked to is horrifyed by the idea of essentially the city of san francisco subsidizing to uber. we are better then this. i don't care what the rest of the cities in the world are doing, we should not let uber into the taxi business here in san francisco. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. there are 20 callers on the line. 11 in the queue. next caller, please.

>> david. i was a driver at fly wheel and work in the office. i want to address comment made specifically around supporting the drivers. drivers need rides to make money and they will have the option to take the uber ride or not. if we are about supporting the drivers this proposal is great. no one is forced to saep uber, they see the pricing before they accept the ride and it is their choice. drivers do this every day all day long and they-it is freedom they most enjoy. the comment we just made about people assaulted in uber cars and all is no accountability, that wont happen with taxis. we know which cab they are in and the driver and they go through background checks and talk daily. the concerns i understand people dont like uber, but this is the realty that we are living in, this is is a good proposal and hope it continues moving forward. >> thank you for your

comments. next caller, please. >> hi, this is tess (inaudible) and i'm supporting the supervisor chan's resolution. uber is desired to take over the world of transportation not facilitated in any way by san francisco. we have had too many companies come here break the law and then ask to be blessed and forgiven and furthermore given subsidies. a lot of other things have already been said. this is just the wrong way to go to get in bed with a ridiculously illegal company that hasn't turned a profit because they are so funded by investors who are willing to wait until they capture the world for

them. so, please oppose what mta is trying to do. mta is off the rails instead of providing a service they need, they should be also providing bus service and they should be doing something about it stupid medallion. thank you very much. >> thank you for your cuments. next caller, please. >> good afternoon. this is (inaudible) long time activist and cab driver. i want to make two points. first i want to thank supervisor chan bringing this resolution forward and god bless her for understanding the issues and god bless dean preston for having (inaudible) understanding the impact it has on the city itself. i want to make a couple points here again. first, if the taxi managers and people

pushing for this think that we need this badly, then why do they keep raising our lease fees. we are paying hundred dollar to $120 a shift to work these cabs, and they are raised it over the last 6 to 9 months. why would they raise it if they didn't think we were making money or able to cover that and still make money for our selves? good question. ask mta if they know how much business has come up since coming out of the pandemic. the ort part is they are charging more for the individuals leasing the medallion. the second part of this is about the surge pricing. you have a obligation to make sure there is a service available so

drivers don't feel they are being gouged by a trip only cost maybe $10, $15 but costing 50 to $60? why deyou want to allow that? the mta is partly to blame because they allow uber and lyft to operate there are over 300 for closures of medallions. now there are none because the mta made exclusive use to the airport to those medallions. >> your time has lapsed. next caller, please. >> if uber and lyft and somebody else wants to play with the taxi they have to play by the tax ea rules

which is meter rate. so, this is like pandora's box. this is bringing surge pricing to public. this is bringing surge pricing to taxi. it will. why on earth they can't charge the meter rate minus 10 percent commission and 1 or $2 booking fee-(inaudible) they don't charge the driver anything which is fantastic. anyway, you know, as a long time taxi driver i have seen my livelihood pretty much destroyed by uber. it rebounded somewhat this summer, it is very busy. we don't have enough cabs to cover demand so why do we mess with the uber rides when there is loyal taxi customers? i just think there is so much about the plan that needs to be reworked before it is

implemented rather then just throwing at the wall and see what sticks. i think taxi drivers should be guaranteed a full meter rate and don't think you should be able to surge price in the taxi and i think that we really need to think about the bigger picture here of a company that ran billboards saying never take a taxi again and giving access to this trained professional 17, 18 year pool of drivers. what is their end game there? thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller. >> good afternoon supervisors. this is theresa (inaudible) calling in support of supervisor chan's resolution urging the removal of third party dispatch. i spent a good hour in a cab with a yellow cab

driver who informed me about this whole pilot program. it was the first time i heard of it and what i heard him say is uber is going to know all about us, all about our rides, but what will we know about the other uber rides, and his understanding was that there was going to be a dedicated san francisco cab region and then the uber drivers would get those longer rides outside of the city. that was concerning. he also told me that of the 1,000 yellow cab drivers there were only 12 who signed up to actually participate in this program, so i am asking as you did supervisor preston, why is-what is mta getting out of this? why would you want to invest in a program

with a company that has-trying to create a monopoly one, and number two, that has always been non-transparnt, exploited its own drivers and again with those surge prices, why would you trust anything with this company? please, i urge your support of this resolution and thank you again supervisor chan for bringing this forward. >> thank you for your comments. there are 19 callers on the line. 8 in the queue. please forward the next caller. >> good afternoon supervisors. eric brooks with the local grass roots organization our city san francisco. strong support of supervisor chan's resolution. as supervisor preston indicated, there are mountains of studies showing that companies like uber and lyft which took what used to be not for profit relationships between

individual people who owned car s and turned it into a reaching for profit system. it is proven to be extremely bad for taxi, torpedo transit ridership, bad for the environment and increasing green house gas and grid lock in the city, and so what this muni plan amounts to is privateization. that is what this is. it is going to get people and drivers used to using a private app to arrange their rides in a race to the bottom on the amount of money they get paid and once uber and lyft get control of the whole shebang the taxi drives in san francisco will have the same working conditions as the uber drivers. they can't possibly want that. the solution to this is to create a public central dispatch run by the city and a city

app that uber and lyft have to operate under instead of their private app. that was solve the problem and probably help us get rid of uber and lyft. this is not somebody mentioned this is when you are in a war you decide to make peace and form an alliance, that isn't what this is, this is trying to prepech wait a codependent relationship with a abusive partner. when somebody is in your house and abusing you and stealing your food you dont try to negotiate with them, you kick them out and that is what we need to do with uber and lyft. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, please. >> hello. hi. my name is (inaudible) medallion and (inaudible) to have

uber and lyft, but i think the (inaudible) but we can still keep our rate and (inaudible) business is getting better then it used to be. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next

caller, please. >> hello. this is evelyn (inaudible) calling from district 8 and i'll get straight to the point. the e hill people will not accept paratransit discount fares and are that completely completely unacceptable. in a memo to jeff tumlin that kate turan wrote she refers to meter anxiety. this is survival anxiety. if i get into a taxi, how will i get a taxi because taxis-paratransit riders are very popular and but the thing is, okay, this only creates barriers, because why would someone want to get a paratransit rider when they might get-i don't

know. i can tell you surge pricing i used to drive for a living. i was a tour guide while in school and know the rules so i was somewhere a friend called a uber for me, i will never go in uber, and the quote was $35. (inaudible) i said, i'm calling a taxi. the fare was $17. because i was able to suggest why do this or that? it is unacceptable. if it isn't a direct violation of the ada, which it is a violation in spirit, thank you connie chan for this resolution and we seniors and disabled people just the amount gets higher and harder and fastest growing dem o graphic, this is so confusing

for seniors. do i get in a taxi or automat- >> thank you caller, your time elapses. two minutes for public comment. thank you so much. apology for the interruption. next caller. there are 5 callers in the queue. >> my name is magy may, i was born and raised in san francisco and i wholely support supervisor chan's resolution and i am very much appreciate supervisor preston's comments. i don't have a car, never have never needed one in the city. i rely on muni and taxi cabs when necessary. i would never take uber. it caused gridlock and chaos in san francisco and done great harm to taxi drivers. all the drivers i have spoken to when i take taxis about this issue are hundred percent

against the uber take over of the taxi industry. it is unfair to them and speak to them if they are un(inaudible) taxi driver i spoke to said he would rather die then work for uber. if implemented this scheme and do me scheme, we further priveatize and regulate our san francisco transit. i want the city of san francisco to be responsible for transit including taxis. who is the city doing this for? what is the city giving authorization and handing over non-regulated situations to entities like uber? what is the city getting out of this? please support the resolution. thank you. >> thank you for you're comments. next caller, please.

>> hello. this is elana ingle in district 9 and with (inaudible) san francisco. i'm calling in support of supervisor chan's resolution. you know, first we allow uber to all about destroy the taxi industry after the drivers have untold hundreds of thousands of dollars into their medallions. this is called invasion. next, we are allowing uber to pick (inaudible) they can direct taxis to do uber's bidding at prices set by uber. uber gives nothing back to the contractors the taxi drivers accept low compensation. the taxi drivers still have to pay their own expenses, still have tapay off the medallion while uber gets a cut of the industry they all but wrecked. this is madness and the policy needs to be resended.

we as a city and mta should not be spending our time trying to make the uber money losing uber profitable. they lost all most $6 billion, billion in the first quarter. we should be focusing on transit, charging infrastructure for electric vehicles and moving all vehicles to electric. there is a climate crisis and gas vehicles need to be phased out. starting now. and maybe we should also look at subsidizing the price of the medallions for the taxi drivers that we all have saddled with the debt once you allowed uber to destroy their industry. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, please. >> my name is lori

leaderman district 7. and strongly support supervisor chan resolution. uber built their business model virkm venting government regulation and resisting transapparent when the representatives recognize the problemugeer business model (inaudible) they are committed to exployitation of drivers through circumventing fundamental labor law. equally committed to maximizing profit which means serving under served is not on their agenda. surge pricing as a practice disproportionate imfact low income riders. they are a bad actor since inception. deregialization (inaudible) prioritizing true public transit not empowering a private inty to increase exployitation of workers and

(inaudible) abandon its responsibility and manage and constrain congestion and hazard and injury on the street. uber is not just a transportation company, they are collecting information to further domination in the transportation market place and probably more then that. why on earth would our city hand over control of our streets to a known pred torry company? i urge the committee to unanimously sport the resolution. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. please forward the next caller. >> hi. supervisors. my name is dennis (inaudible) i wholeheartedly support supervisor chan's resolution urging the removal of third party dispatch of san francisco cabs. taxi service is a regulated metered city service with driven by skilled regular workers. uber is a unregulated

profit driven coperate (inaudible) the uber app versus meter rates is race to the bottom. uber opposed regulated guaranteed earnings for drivers. why would the city join in the race to the bottom? this is opening pandora's boxes, a recent speaker said. i am outraged but not entirely surprised by sfmta approving the deal in april that requires mta to give up the charter mandated authority to determine taxi meter rates and give up the authority to uber. this is a slippery slope of priveatizing public service. please adopt supervisor chan's resolution. >> thank you. please forwards the next caller. >> hello. this is matt sutter. i'm a

medallion purchaser. i want to thank supervisor chan for writing this resolution and supervisor preston for his knowledge of what is going on. it was no protection against uber and lyft whether we asked for it and now they are expecting us to bail them out. this is absurd. the reason why they are doing this is a money grab. they are all invested in uber and lyft and this has to stop. i'm not calling on behalf of myself or the cab drivers, i'm calling on behalf of the citizens of san francisco. our handicaped and elderly passengers due to cabs picking up uber rides will have to wait longer times to get a taxi and it is unfair and the ada should look into this. we are finally making

ground. we fought uber for years and we are finally doing better and now you want us to help them. this is absurd. you know who's running the show here. london breed, you need to get to her. she does not support taxis and some people at the mta should be ashamed what they are doing. the public has spoken. people dont want uber. why are we supporting uber? thank you again for your support and we will still be here. we are not going anywhere, and please call it a taxi. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. please forward the next caller. >> good day supervisor chan and supervisor preston. i'm (inaudible) calling in support of supervisor chan's resolution urging mta board to remove third party dist patch from the taxi front fare pilot program. earlier i

heard theprinted questioned by supervisor chan. it seems no wrun knows the impact this deal will have on the people without smart phones. i'm a senior enrolled in the paratransit essential trip card program without a smart phone and no app. i will be excluding accessing the taxi program since i rely on my land line. i take taxi paratransit service to medical appointments and event and now will be in competition for cab rides with uber passengers t. is alarming mta seems to serve as agent for uber and not the public at large. especially people with disability who need taxi service. in fact, the deal approved by sfmta board of directors in april require mta to give up its charter mandated authority to

determine taxi meter rates in public and transparent manner. uber will now determine the passenger fares for all participating cabs and this is nothing less then a privateization and deregialation of transit. taxi drivers i have spoken with are opposed. please support supervisor chan's well crafted resolution. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. please forward the next caller. >> hello. hello supervisors. thank you everyone for the late day and hearing us on the subject. bret johnson a medallion holder and drives since 1994 in the city. thank you so much supervisor chan. i support your resolution 100 percent. if there is any way you and the good work you do and dean preston and the good work he's doing and understanding of

the cab industry you both seem to have to cloning yourselves please and begin running the cab industry, i would be appreciate that and think i speak for many cab drivers. having the mta run the cab industry here since they have been nothing short of disaster. the medallion sales program i'm a part of failed and there is nothing happening with that. i'm a select group of medallion holders that were meeting monthly or semi-monthly the last meeting was months and months ago and don't know updates and no progress alleviating the medallion failed program and all of the people that are turning medallions in just suffering. regarding the surging, i picked up european travelers at sfo telling me they are trying to book uber from europe before they get here and

quoted a $150 to fisherman warf and surprised to find it is 60, $65 so that is what we are dealing with. this is a fare that uber wants to do and at the airport they want to take the fares because they get 110 or 120 of the 150 and will leave people stranded at the airport worse they are. i don't mind going through a meter. i will never take aube were app. i don't know why we are considering it and-the cpuc-(inaudible) >> your time has lapsed. chair preston there are no additional callers in the queue. >> thank you, public comment is closed, and i have a couple other questions. you have amendments to make.

we'll move those after. i want to check a comment i third mr. gruber made at least two other callers. the statement i think someone said that we currently dont have enough cabs to cover the demand and there is a shift from a hundred-dollarful of months where that might not have been the case. is that accurate and how does it create concerns this pilot will make it where there are not sufficient cabs to meet demand of those trying to book a cab outside of uber? >> so, we are going to pull up a slide to show during the pandemic the medallions on the street plummeted. we'll show first the trips. just to see obviously had a big

plunge down with trips and they started coming back up and then the next slide show the average taxi medallions in service per month and similar trends. you will see that there were over 1200 medallions in operation and then plunged to 400 and coming back up to all most 700, so all is supply. we have medallions, but are there drivers? the fleet has the ability to flex up to meet the demand, and so there's nothing constraining it, so that the medallions are there again they need the drivers and need the trips, but how the market should work is that when there is more trips there's more interest in driving. i mentioned we added 74 new drivers in 2022, so these are dynamic factors, but the trends are going back

up. >> do you have a projection or one you can share publicly of the percentage of growth in rides that you expect? >> we are looking at a 10 percent growth increase and that is what we will track toward but not sure so that is why we will track the metric and track the trips but that is what we are looking towards. gic >> thaujs thank you. i assume you will track multiple ways to get at it, but if this is-goes forward, like i'm-a talk about what happens in terms of riders using the app. i'm interested what happens outside the app. to me one potential case for this and again i struggle with many sides of this, because as i said before, i'm very skeptical, but i

can see a situation in which users of uber have a positive experience with a real taxi cab and then go and download fly wheel-i want to make sure we are positioned to be measuring the growth not just the sort of coming back from the pandemic growth, but actually tracking the growth of ridership outside of this partnership. because i think one thing-i do think that there is a-it is somewhat generational. there is a different expectation orientation how one using a cab, where the upfront pricing may be very appealing to a lot of folks who haven't spent decades using a metered cab. and just expect that. and expect to be able

to use a smart phone to get there and expect to know what the price will be. so, maybe to be more specific, how are we go toog track that and also are fly wheel or any other permit holding e-hill apps is there agreement with them to share data? i'm curious what are the number of downloads of the fly wheel app? does that surge or does it plummet? if this arrangement is moving forward. how are we going to track that? >> okay. one i want to say that i can see dynamic you mentioned as well where if the trip originated as a uber x trip but there is great customer subs service with professional taxi drivers those could be new customers or returning customers. >> especially during

surge pricing. i imagine getting in a cab when i pay $40 to go across town--that person paying $40 to go across town and the driver says, by the way, here is how you get a-if you prefer a regulated rate, probably $15 or $20? >> yes, that could very well happen and expect that. in terms of tracking the data, we are tracking how the trip originated and so we are calling (inaudible) a street pick up or phone dispatch or e hill or third party pilot so we will be tracking that. it is part of our api, one of the requirements that we need to understand how the trip originated and it is referred to as hail type. >> got it. so, fly wheel or any other permitted e hill-they are opigated to share.

>> that is right and they already have that requirement. i mentioned on the taxi with taxis we have a long-standing data requirement from the dispatch companies on trips and geographic information. >> got it. okay. thank you for those clarifications and appreciate everyone foolding all the questions on this and i will just say, i said earlier, i should say with so many folks calling and coming i want to thank all the drivers who have persevered through all this. as i said before through the worst of multi-billion dollar companies try ing to come at you and for many many years before i took office i represented people who were struggling with their housing and can't tell you how many cab drivers in the city i have represented either on eviction matters or housing conditions and

have really seen just how hard the work is physically, emotionally and financially, so regardless of anything else, just want to acknowledge that and thank all the folks in the industry who are persevering. supervisor chan, you- >> thank you chair preston and i want to first make a motion to amend. >> please call the roll. >> on the motion to amend-vice chair chan. chan aye. preston aye. two ayes. >> thank you madam clerk. the motion to amend passes. >> chair preston i just want to thank you. i thank you for your knowledge. i think the drivers have said, i think that just really appreciate your understanding of the industry and i

think that it's interesting we share the sentiment about uber and the transportation network companies in general and i think that it's not a functioning business model for workers i think in general, and the goal is how do we help and support taxi industry put into a disadvantage because of the tnc? it is a interest dynamic that now we are-we have find ourself in. and it is because of that though. i do appreciate sfmta effort. i do appreciate sfmta been listening to us and in the communications however brief you actually-you communicated suggested amendments to this resolution that i think aside from the fact i think you would

like to see to have the third party dispatch function remain, so you can understand the function of it, i are think that is perhaps our disagreement here. you had offer data tracking and i think there is a interest of how do we track these data so that we are actually have better data information point to move this industry forward and for that i do agree and also because of that it is my intention today to continue this item to the call of chair so it allows us to room to communicate and have this conversation. i think that you have suggested to track the data and reporting of the numbers of taxi driver that participate in third party pilot trips. you have suggested that to have a comparison of the third party pilot trip fares to the taxi trip fares, and of course

the geographic analysis. i also urge you to work with county y transportation authority to really understand the implementation of prop d and how this pilot program, especially with the third party dispatch-what does that mean for prop d and will there be sort of what chair preston actually suggested earlier, what it is that perhaps through this program and through this third party dispatch function that the city can gain some type of advantage and perhaps i think cta can actually help and assist you in collaboration. how do we push back and through this function could we actually demand data from tnc and help us as a city to understand their impact on our city better? since we at this moment do not have a mechanism to gain the data from them directly, can we then through the third

party dispatch function to do so? so, i am definitely open to those conversation and wanted to also circle back with what chair preston mentioned by price gouging. i think that is another conversation since sfmta as a regialator for meter pricing is there a conversation we can have through the third party dispatch function to kind of better understand is dynamic pricing-like, does it actually work and which one is a better model and how do we level the play field in terms of way that we set up pricing? last but not least, i have heard that from some of the advocates for the taxi drivers and also as well as you heard from one of the caller jz that is something that actually i have been thinking bet is seeing you and you have seen

a previous resolution coming from this board about just the taxi medallions and negotiation with sfmta and the bank about how do we figure out loan forgiveness, how do we move forward with the taxi medallion loans? is there a world that if in the event if anything of these third party dispatch, again functioning and figuring out a way how we provide a subsidies and commitment of subsidies from the tnc to move the partnership forward? those are thoughts and suggestions i want to articulate and with that to say i would like to continue this item to the call of chair and with that motion so that we can allow time to discuss. it seems your next quarter meeting public

meeting is november 22 of this year. >> not sure we put a specific date. yes, november 2022. i want to say thank you for holding the hearing and we took a lot of notes and heard a lot of feedback and comments and lights a fire to redouble our efforts on oversight in what we are charged with and insuring working to insure that our goals are being met and it is a net positive for the industry, so i just wanted to acknowledge that and to thank you and to say you know, all the comments were received and we will discuss and take it back under with a team and look toward additional kind of these additional ideas on leverage and the items you just mentioned as well and we are happy to come back again and diswuss discuss where we are at, status update and

what we are seeing and we are happy to work with sfct. again, i value the expertise on that team and in terms of our data analysis and are we getting the data we need to understand the metrics so happy to partner with the team over there and have them support-we have a lot of in-house experts as well, but it always helps to have a extraset of eyes. >> for transparency and love to facilitate a meeting and converitate (inaudible) and during the continuance period thank you. >> thank you vice chair chan. appreciate your

leadership on this. there is a motion to continue to the call of the chair. can we call the roll on that? >> thank you. vice chair chan. chan aye. chair preston. preston aye. two ayes. >> can thank you. the motion passes. thank you everyone. and let's go back to recall-don't know if we have to call them again. probably do or maybe not. items 1 and 2 we put over. they were previously called. >> they were called so can go right to them. >> excellent. i heard from president walton trying to work out some amendments. needs a bit more time to do so and asked we continue this to our next regular meeting of gao which is october 6, so i like to move to continue items 1 and 2 to october 6. >> thank you chair. apologies there is a

member of the public requested to speak to this item. >> did we close public comment previously? i don't recall. why don't we go ahead and reopen public comment to accommodate the caller. >> please pass the last caller through. >> hello. just wanted to state that the expert in the taxi medallion (inaudible) >> pardon me. we have closed public comment for that item and moved to item 1 and 2. >> sorry. >> if you like to send comments you can send viae-mail as well. >> thank you madam clerk. apologies for that caller. public comment on the item is closed as indicated you can e-mail comments to us. i think officially i had reopened public comment on item 1 and

2 so i will go ahead now and if we don't have additional callers on 1 and 2? >> that is correct, chair, no additional callers. >> thank you. public comment on 1 and 2 is closed, and can you call the roll on the motion to continue items 1 and 2 to the regular meeting october 6? >> motion to continue 1 and 2 to october 6, chan aye. chair preston, preston aye. two ayes. >> thank you madam clerk. motion passes and do we have further business before the committee? >> there is no additional business. >> thank you. we are adjourned. [meeting adjourned]

>> everything is done in-house. i think it is done. i have always been passionate

about gelato. every single slaver has its own recipe. we have our own -- we move on from there. so you have every time a unique experience because that slaver is the flavored we want to make. union street is unique because of the neighbors and the location itself. the people that live around here i love to see when the street is full of people. it is a little bit of italy that is happening around you can walk around and enjoy shopping with gelato in your hand. this is the move we are happy to provide to the people. i always love union street because it's not like another commercial street where you have big chains. here you have the neighbors. there is a lot of stories and the neighborhoods are essential. people have -- they enjoy having

their daily or weekly gelato. i love this street itself. >> we created a move of an area where we will be visiting. we want to make sure that the area has the gelato that you like. what we give back as a shop owner is creating an ambient lifestyle. if you do it in your area and if you like it, then you can do it on the streets you like. mayor'

disability san francisco. i like to welcome you to our zoom public meeting for september 23rd, 2022. okay roll call we have madrid.

>> here. >> sassounis. >> absent today. >> albers. >> present. >> senhaux. >> present. smolinski. >> present. >> woods. >> present. >> verma. >> absent today. that concludes the roll call. can you police read the agenda.

>> today's upon agenda, we have item 1, welcome and roll call. item 2 reading and approval of the agenda. >> item 3, general public comment. item 4, the cochair report. item 5 is report if the mayor's office on disability. item 6 is vision zero strategy update. presented by vincent romero from the sfmta. item 7 is visions san francisco safe street for older adults and people with disabilities presented by patricia erwin. item 8 is possible increases and taxi meter rates and impact on

paratransit taxi fares boy forest bans from the sfmta. >> item 9 correspondence. item 10 is general public comment. item 11 councilmember announcements. item 12 is adjournment. >> thank you and now we will go to public comment. can you open the meeting for general public comment. >> okay. we welcome the public participation during public comment period. an town for public comment at the beginning and end of the meeting as well as after specific items on each item. each comment is limited to 3

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accessible. sends an e mail to mod @sfgov.org. if you need assistance tao call 459-999-9562 or e mill to mdc @sfgov.org. at this time, members of the public may address the council on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the council that are not on the meeting agenda. for agenda items you will have an opportunity to address the council for agenda items you will the opportunity to address the council one moment. there we go. for agenda items you have an opportunity to address the council when the item is reached during this meeting the brown act forbids the council from taking action or discussing any

items not appearing on the listed upon agenda including the items raised by public comment. i see multiple members with hands raised. >> take the first caller. commenter, please. >> all right. so, the first commenter -- albert you are unmute. >> hello. mayor's office of disability council. i would like to thank you for i know that sacrifice and hard work do you to help the disabled community and i am very looking

forward to hopefully being appointed boy the mayor's office to the mayor office mayor disability council. to help you fulfill the needs and service for disabled community and born and raised in the city. and there is a great node for this and i was a carpenter for 26 years. that is different in construction management and berkeley and got 2 course and all the courses 2 an ad a and i have a passion for helping disabled. [inaudible] meeting in person. i help arc legality of kids in the pool and art and 2 kids that are disabled. now 50 years old and i'm getting

older, i would irrelevant like to be [inaudible] and i want to [inaudible] well is a great need for this service. the public but it is extremely cumbersome now that it is web cam i believe as soon as possible, that get back live in public. i watched on tv every meeting you have. i know next among you are not having one. we need to get back to normal. nobody is [inaudible]. i want to make sure everybody knows gotta be getting time to go back to work and everybody shows up on market street. i encourage it for everybody and we get back and that's out of my control. i understand but praying and hoping that happens.

this is cumbersome i have been up since 1:30 in the morning catching up to everything going on. so that's all i have and look forward to working with you guys if possible you and not have a lot of experience with ad a and advocate. thank you for your work i know you have been on it for arc while. thank you. thank you for the comment. before we go to the next [inaudible] is it okay to pause the timer so the people can and then if i need to step. >> i have a problem. i will have that up in a seconded. thank you for your patience.

let us know when you are ready you can move on to the next commenter. thank you. who i we are waiting for the time are i like to remind the public if you want to make comment at this time you can raise your hand by clicking on the raised hand icon. or if you are calling by phone dial star 9. i do realize [inaudible] ready for the next commenter. >> yes , sir. one more minute. sorry.

i think we can continue wrrnl public comment is 3 minutes. let's continue. please. >> all right. the next to the next commenter. >> all right. haurd you have been permitted to unmute. thank you, people can you hear me? >> yes, key can. haurd, good afternoon. since the 24 by 7 closure of the jfk driveway it hen a big hardship for disabled people,

seniors, people who live far from golden gate park and need cars to get there include being people in the bay vow and hunter's point. but also people outside of san francisco. it has been a hardship for families with children and carrying things. also the great closure of the great highway to cars has been a hard help it has been reopened part of the time it is also -- had it is closed people climb over the dunes and the sand suspect getting all over and there are 20,000 occur in sunset district in what used to be neighborhoods. together with other disabled people i have been involved with prop i. prop i would be on the november

ballot. and it would bring thanks to the way they were prepandemic with jfk drive open for cars except on sundays, half of saturday's and holidays. and the great highway open for cars 24/7. i would like to invite everyone to support prospect i. you can do this by going on our website access4allsf.com.

there you is volunteer and do nit. i way to rememberer bell on the prop i, i for inclusion. there is a dom peating measure that would make 24/7 closure of jf circumstance permanent, yes on, i, no, on j. i for inclusion. thank you. >> thank you. do we have more public comment at this time? >> i don't see any other members of public indicated than i want to comment at this time. >> thank you. at this time, we are moving to item 4, which is old [inaudible]

report that last. month in august, mayor's of disability council didn't have a public meeting. but we have a -- and that retreat is out come the -- identify of topics that for the -- some of those topics are on going. like park accessibility and enforcement of accessibility

requirement for shared space, sidewalks and accessibility in -- of -- on sidewalks and also some topic on accessibility employment for people versus -- living in san francisco. government housing accessibility and establishment of the disability community be could --

accessibility and others. also on the retreat there were issues of -- mayor's disability members to champion for this topics. the last thing i want to report is thatmented to make sure people are aware that the announce the position of the -- the award next month at the

public meeting your nomination from the public can be made on 9 or [inaudible] the phone number 415-554-6789. that is include my report now i go to item 5 which is reports from the mayor's office of disability. nicole? which is nicole bohn which is

the mayor's of disability director. >> thank you cochair madrid. i will pull up my report. i thank you everybody for being here and for listening to today. and i pulled up the wrong document. hang on a second. okay. so -- um the full report for today september 23 will be posted on our the mayor's office on disability website under, what's now. and part of the mayor's disability council's website. for full report do refer there. we will have it up hopeful low by early next week. now i will highlight a few.

things that occurred over the last month. starting with some legislative updates. this is not a complete list of legislative updates. that will be posted as part of the report but there are a now things i wanted to mention. specific low to some of the legislation we have been tracking we feel the last month. related to share the space. out door dining program. legislative [inaudible] this requires full accessibility about applications for permitings for legislative program, which begins in march of 2023 are under way now. we have also begun a public service announcement specific low about disability access. and filming of that is to be

scheduled. may be approaching a few of the mayor's disability councilmembers for that. effort. related to e scooter safety. upon that -- cochair madrid mentioned, there is a revised resolution from supervisor peskin. the reference number will be in the posted version of the report and wanted to let you know this resunrised new resolution further works toward speed reduction and sidewalk violation improvements around not allowed to be on the sidewalks. the next thing i will move to state legislation. so00 autoones i want to highlight today are we are continuing -- work together with us at mta on advocacy and

information around a publicities for accessible vehicles. this rule making the -- process rart is regulated a remindser by the puc and the department of motor vehicles not the city. so the way that we are able to participate is through public comment. public comment is in the yet been announced for the upcoming proceedings it will be enough and do track the mayor's office on disability announcements for that as a reminder to sign up if you don't receive them. you go to sfgov.org/mod and then click on subskroib to our news

feed. related to transportation network companies, those are the vehicles like uber and lyft. these are on going. we are part of this proceeding as the mayor's office on disability and sfmta and along with the county transportation authority as well right now they are focused on on goingom time and reduced wait times performance for people with disabilities. this month there are a few federal things i wanted to make you aware of. spring of 22 agenda of d. justice was announced. and that they plan to pose regulations on the following. advanced notice of proposed rowel making on several things one is medical equipment. other is other equipment and furniture. and then there is also notice of

proposed rule making on web accessibility and on sidewalks, curve ramps, street crossing and other pedestrian facilities. you have the notice of proposed rule make thering is opportunity here to make public comment as members of the disability and deaf and disability community. if you like to sign up to get alerts when that public comment period is available. you can go to ad a. gov on the bottom right a place to sign up for e mail updates. i encourage the public if you are at all interested in this level of participation, to do so. so that folks are hearing from as many people with disabilities as possible. i wanted to say on the federal level that the mayor's office of disability has been is part of

the national group of other mayor's office on disabilities in the country. we are working on a collectsive national request to department of transportation secretary accessibility of airlines, taxi and vehicles and other things. . we expect this letter to be complete and ready to be endorsed and sent to the department of transportation in the next few weeks. i will happily report back on that in the october meeting. now i like to move to a few coming events and announcements. first i'd like to introduce tess bartlet. if you are on and willing to bh on camera that is grit if you don't have access if you can say, hi. i will announce a bit of what

tess is doing. tess bartlet is the mayor's office on disability 22-23 san francisco fellow. she'll be with us for a year. we are excited. this is our first san francisco fellow that mod had. tess will work on architect tracking based on identified by departments and those elevate complaints. and she will make recommendations to the departments and to the capitol planning committee and then also she'll be working on complaint and concerned based plan for training for departmental ad accord narrators. we do participate youville she will have an opportunity for public enblaj gagement with concerns especially related to the need for training. she'll be part of the meetings as well and i hope that mdc can

consider allowing time for tess to get a presentation when we are ready for that. and are the updated as to what we are doing. hello, tess. i don't know if you want to say anything more or just wave and say hello it is up to you. we are happy you are with us this year. >> yea i will hop on and say that i'm really excited to work with the mayor's office on disability. and i'm excited to be able to make an impact in the disability community. and it has been great working with everyone so far. looking forward to more meetings. >> great. thank you very much, and i will say the fellows process for those of you who don't know, is extremely competitive. both in being one of the 26,000 and also finding the right

match. we are excited to have tess with us and welcome, tess and thank you for being here today. i have a few more and we will move to agenda item and that will be all from me. few more, though. first of all. the request for proposal for the operation of the disability community cultural center is under way the city now is in the process of verifying the accessibility of some of the internal documents and the final due dates may be adjusted to that. and as soon as we have the all of finalized information, we'll post it to the distribution list. it is open to groups of individuals and organizations to apply. final application dates are november of 22. this is very exciting. as far as we are aware, this is the only municipal disability community cultural center in the

country, alcohol be happening with the kelsie housing development project. and then no date to be announced yet the city of san francisco is having a career fair specific low for people with disabilities which is expected in october. as part of national disability employment awareness month. be on the look out for that date. few more things i want to mention. as you consider your agenda for the coming months. ageing and disability affordable housing need's assessment the draft is near complete. mayor's office on disability has been part of the steering committee along with the mayor's office on housing and community development. disability and aging serviceses and homelessness in supportive

housing. and so there are -- finings and mull pull recommendations under each finding which is expected to be presented to the board of supervisors in november. i hope that you hold space on your agenda for that. when it is ready to be presented to the public. it will have deep impact on folks with disabilities and so -- we want them to know what is happening there. similarly the digital inclusion policy includes website accessibility is under way. and -- so -- police consider agendizing that. and then the remaining items i have for the report on ones i mentioned before, which is to keep an eye on hybrid public meeting participation. and accessible public comment efforts. and then the also -- as november

rolls out and understand more about what will happening with streets. the continue eggs of slow streets efforts. and the final announcement i want to make for consideration is to think about safe passage in your planning efforts in august, the mayor's office on disability presented to the emergency management policy group on disability impacts of street conditions for those trying to pass on the sidewalks and for those who are living on the street who is have disabilities. progress is being made but council encouraged to accomplice it on an upcoming agenda so you can learn more. that is where i will stop for today. thank you very much. >> very good. thank you.

and -- on behalf of -- tess -- looking forward welcoming you. now we are moving along to item number 6. which is presentation by -- vincent from and -- they are going to discuss --

>> great. thank you very much. good afternoon. i'm lynne. i am she and her the vision zero acting program manager here at sfmta. also joining me is jamie partials who is our direct and romero will copresent. other reminds vision zero a commitment to eliminate [inaudible] and i will move on to the next slide in a second. the action vehicle is released by mayor's office and that what steps the city will take to reach vision zero. the lasts was last year in 2021

and our fourth update. today we share updates on the zero 21 action strategy. i will pass it on for the next couple slides. so i'm going to present updates on 3 items. the program, high injury and traffic calming and i will pass it on to [inaudible] and she will update on other [inaudible]. one of our bandwidth commitments in our action strategy was to make sure is that we get through all the entire high injury network with quick building improve ams. by 2024. that is where we are focusing our efforts and seeing that the

program started in 2019 it has been 3 years. we have completed 27 corridors. there is one now in construction phase on evans avenue and 15 more in the planning and designing phase. all together it is around upon over 70 miles of traffic safety improvements throughout san pran and the goal now is to work on the remaining 80 miles of the network. so -- the projects are lower cost and reversible projects and consists of paint, parking or loading adjustments. and you see here through this program we installed 12 transit

islands, 120 safety zones and more than 12 miles of new or upgraded bike ways. now the quick build program changes so but at the moment these other projects we are working on. i said before the project in evans avenue crediting now bike facilities and intersections. franklin street we focus on period of time safety and reducing peds and bayshore improve traffic safety and strengthen biking around the area this . is another project we are about to start. we are trying to get the full high injury network and want to apply the right safety tool and

street. we design and pilot the templet to assess conditions on remaining 8 miles or so of the high injury network. we hired a consultant and should be ready in 6 months. the high injury network guides the city's investment in infrastructure and programs. and makes sure that vision zero frequents are in neighborhoods of people most in need. so this is the data driven program and high injury network where we focus the work the first this we had it in june of 2015 and used public records for that network. the first update happened in 2017.

and that time we used police record and hospital records. which accounts the hospital records data a counsels for 20% of our data. the data captures injuries not reported to the police. now we are working on the second update. we are using records and medical and hospital records with 2019 and 2021 data, if for this we department with department of public health. they havearc sesz to the police records and the hospital data. now we are working on inconsistencies in the city departments. we set up a comment internally where we are reviewing the new draft and the methodology. and witness we completed that internal reruwe expect to reach out to the community in october or november.

to participate in our community advisory commenting. the last piece i will cover is traffic calming program. and another commitment that we made in the action strategy is to make sure we install at least 100 traffic calming devices every year. traffic calming devices are bumps in the road that make it difficult to slow down. speed humps or cautions or raised crosswalks. you see here in the graphic as of august of 2022, we have already completed nearly 200 traffic calming device in 2022 and we are now on our way to break our record as 2021. the traffic calming program start instead late 70s from residents had applied for the sxrm we measured the speed and

we apply speed humps or traffic calming device. it is important to us but we recognize waiting for people to be identified problems creates inequities in terms of which

neighborhoods are likely to apply. in addition we have the proactive traffic calming program that started in 2018. another commitment in the zero vision strategy is develop a speed management plan. this draft is urn way and identify tools we can deploy to slow speeds and save lives whether that is through education, or traffic calming they mentioned or will engineering treatments. road diets or speed limit reductions on streets. that is what we will be included in the plan. but we don't want to wait per it to be finalized. at the same time as we draft the plan we're out in the street. and implementing tools we will believe will am help slow speeds

on our streets. such as the speed limit reduction work, 20 miles per hour implementation. ltz we have 70 miles of 20 zone planned the work that we did in the whole neighborhood of tenderloin, which is in the gold shaded lines on the map on the left. in addition to the new legislation are authority under bill 43 allows local jurisdictions throughout california to slow speeds and ecstasy. so that is shown in the left in the blue and red. we're leading the state in this implementation in addition to oakland and san jose. as of mid-september, we already

completed 15 corridors with new speed limit signs and another 8 that are in construction and are working hard on the next set for legislation and review. with that 20 mile in your neighborhoods we are also with education and out reach. so similar to the tenderloin you will see transit shelter adds. these minibillboards. we will be doing direct out reach. you will see digital advertise nothing mull pull languages if you go to the dmv to get your real id or paperwork you may see this vision zero speeding psa. we are able to put in all california offices under dmv.

yop one of our other commitmented in vision wherevero sole judge is make sure high injury intersections have visibility crosswalks and daylighting. we are making good progress. happy to report that 90% of our intersections have daylighting or this red striping notoriety intersection you see in the photo on your left this is over 250 intersections on the high injury network have that and at 95% of intersection that have continental crosswalks. similar to that on the right that you see. we have several commitments in the action strategy related traffic signals. so whether it is slowing down the timing to a walk speed of 3 secondeds or having a crosswalk head start leading pedestrian intervals with the crosswalk

sign before the light turns and period of time count down signals and pedestrian signals. these other latest we have from the traffic signal team of we have commitment and action strategy to evaluate the no turn on red pilot in the tenderloin. we are happy to report the studies from this pilot were positive for keeping crosswalks clear and reducing close calls with people walking and vehicles. so given findings we'll go ahead and expand the pilot to the 20 miles per hour work that i shared in the previous slide. we are excited about that because we think these restrictions will be most impactful where there are a lot of people walking. the business corridors with the

20 miles per hour signage are good candidates. we are also expanding our left turn traffic calming project we piloted. we secured funding to expand it. and under way. we have an initialling list that we are vetting with the many internal teams at mta the engineers are transyit and paratransit groups and the fire department. and we hope to be installing them soon. this is on ellis and leavenworth from the pilot. >> the photo for some people's can that center photo. vehicle. >> the photo has an example of the pilot treatments we put to slow drivers turning left.

so for example, we will harden the center lane with the minirubber speed bump treatments and at the corner of intersection if you are imagining the car turning left, we have like a slow turn wedge we have rubber speed butches 90 degree angle. to encourage drivers to slow down when they turn. moving on to the motorcycle safety program. motorcyclists are vulnerable road users. when we look at traffic fatalities. they often rise to the top. we have a graunded program. that is with the police department to provide 3 half day urban skill safety riding

trainings. gear toward beginners or motorcyclists returning to riding versus another way of getting around the city. and in the photos on the left you will see photo from one of our august trainings. with people riding on motorcycles. practicing going very slow and on the right is another photograph as well with the motorcycle traffic company. where they have set up traffic cones and circuits for people to practice skills like starting and stopping or other maneuvers. completed 8 trainings this year. and we are excited continue that progra employing another part of the program is advancing vehicle safety.

sfmta sent a letter to the u.s. department of transportation in the new car assess am program. we called out studies. documenting links between the vehicle size or speed and weight in contribution to the traffic we are seeing. am we are encouraging this new car program in addition to incorporating the technology changes that they are planning to which but to encourage them for their 5 star safety rating system to make sure the vehicle does receive a 5 star they score high on other safety features that are important to eulogist traffic fatal ities. intelligence speed assistance installations that reduce high speeds or unsafe speeds.

or addressing giving more marks to cars that address blind spots when cars turn left am a blind spot in your windshield area. in is the severe injury's report produced by public health partners every year and looking combines again police and hospital data. to look at injury trends. the last one publish in the september of last year and we are anticipating to have that data set soon and the next report in spring of 23. that is the end of the thank you very much. >> thank you. and now i'm going to take over

to -- for questions. please raise your hand or tell me if you have any questions and [inaudible] a question? no.ing. thank you so much for that wonderful presentation. really. it makes me feel good to be a san francisco resident with young kids and having lived here for over 20 years and you know the joke in my family our second car is me walking. i literally walk every where. so this makes me feel good and i want to say kudos to you and the team. for all your good work. know it is appreciated and it is saving lives for sure.

one of my children is in a wheel chair. we take public transportation and certainly the wheel chair accessible uberers and lyfts my preference is to walk with her and push her in her chair. and simple things from curb cut outs to less simple things like the barriers you mentioned about helping people turn a protected left. make a difference. thank you. >> thank you very much. alex. i like fellow councilmember sassounis said thank you for your presentation and how vision zero in an attempt to make the

city safer, people with disabilities and seniors i thank you for that. i'm excited and you talked about your speed management plan around your program around ab43? and educating to address the speed. you know in association with the fatalities that still exist. that was one of my mirj concerns beside the existing education you have now around traffic devices and et cetera. i think this is a very point around -- speed issues to educate drivers to be safe and understand seniors, disabilities, children special dogs, everyone needs to cross the street. i have a -- i [inaudible] we

lost you. do you see me now? no. i will -- you are cutting off. >> oh . we are cut off. can you hear me at all. >>iel. i can hear you now. >> okay. >> okay. i'm sorry. so any how where i left off is i'm excited about the you coming back and give us the data and feedback from the speed and management plan to see you know the numbers about safety around education, driver awareness. no audio. you cut off again.

>> thank you. >> are there any commentsers or questions in at this time? no. okay. before i turn over to the staff i have some questions to one of them is that i know barriers -- sidewalks or the bicycle and barriers to vehicle in the there was a discussion or some things related to that and some

barriers is are is is hard to see or -- can you -- um tell us about what did you find out of how do you implementing those things when it come to making sure all of people with disabilities can use or and identify the barriers. between the vehicle and the bike. the bikes station. >>il make sure i understands your question. about bicyclists and people with disabilities and how to prep vents the conflicts between bicycle and vehicles. >> no. >> the barriers. the -- the barriers name?

the you know -- on the sidewalk and there was -- and next to the sidewalk well is an a lane for the bikes, right? and then the bike and the vehicles there is -- the barriers. and well is is a lane with to identify. don't cross this or go to the vehicle side or to the bicycle lane? and will i'm talking about the bike. if someone has me say the word i'm trying to say. may be the parking protective

bike lanes. >> yes. >> yea. and how are we making sure that people sdwablts can hopefully use the road safely. >> yes. and make it so that, that, that lane or that -- particular thing is accessible. >> i know we had the question and i might ask jail tow help me provide more information i know we had a working group through watch sf on parking protected bus lanes or -- parking protective bike lanes and how to ensure where keeping people with disabilities in minds where building them. and i will pause to see if jamie has additional information. why this is through the chair. we are a getting to the curb

document. that walk sf presented to -- sfmta that was a bunch folks with disabilities worked on the document. if you can speak to how you are incorporating those recommendations in your planning, i believe that is what alex is referring to. if i'm misrepping you alex, let me know. >> yes. yes. and just want to would like to nicole as the just bring it to work that projected thing is reasonable and known to trip or -- could someone make it so it is -- accessible to all

people with disability. or none be people, too. jamie or vicinity or -- so. of over see our liveable streets division. i think we are with which names and i don't know if i can rename. i think weigh use the same. there. okay. so -- if we have been building the parking protected bike lane in san francisco now for 5 years. as we started in 2016. 6 years approximate learned a lot in that time. nicole mentioned we did work

with walk sf and a number of advocates on a report, getting to the curb in 2019. i tried to slip that in i don't think i can mix messages with everybody i sent typeset to nicole. but we looked at that report that has been a guiding principle for us. a few thicks we do when we design protected bike lane system one is where we have transit stops the boarding islands make sure they are marked crosswalks across the bike lane from the island and the transit stop to the sidewalk. we have the crosswalk and narrow the bike wlan it gets to the island it forces people to slow down when they get to [inaudible]. and then a long concern with tripping hazzards and access

from parked vehicles to the walk across the bike lanes. we worked a lot on the specific designs of what we call the buffer space. the bike lanes and parked cars and a buffer space with the parked cars and the bike lane. with that, we have made sure we have no tripping hazzard there is and make that buffer wide enough that i person in a chooel wheel chair can navigate with the parked cars and the bike lane. >> i question to is that of i want to make sure that protected area is accessible to all people and make it for people would can -- identify it.

and getting in the street. that's when i'm trying to get at. so -- that is i shared goal we have and without trying to explain too much. we have worked hard to do that and i think and -- we also are always tweak the describes if there is a bike way or location not working for whatever reason we are often changing how many [inaudible] we have or where they are placed or how wide the bike lane is. we are happy to take feedback on locations that may not be working for folks as well as they should. >> thank you for that. help is the last question on

this not a question. related to the or -- um -- we may have hopefully we may have designs that indicate to cyclists what to do. more than signs we used pavement markings. we'll often in addition to the crosswalk marking and the bike way itself we'll put in central say, slow, pedestrian crossing or we have a school loading zone on valencia, load, school. we use pavement markings more than signs even though i said signs. we found what people bike are likely to see what is written on the ground in fronts of them

than they torlockup at a sign on the sidewalk they may not see. >> okay. thank you. >> now would ask the staff questions for the president. >> i will go, first am thank you alex for the questions they are important and i'm glad we spent time on that. one thing i wanted to say that if someone who has access can put getting to the curb document in the q & a box or the public chat so other folks tracking the meeting can see that document. for those of you who are watching on sfgovtv it is on walk sf website getting to the curb report final 2019 document if you are interested in looking it up. >> i was justmented to echo

everybody, thanks and for all of the good work you are doing and really my question is mostly for members of the public who might be curious that is the best way to take public feedback especially from people with disabilities? how do you want to receive that. i love to hear youri preferences and also want to continue to encourage you as you give public presentations we do we are really on the grounds with a lot of this and we are just encouraging everyone to make sure we are presenting had information in as many different ways as possible and not just visually but in we are speaking and talking about so that it can be as accessible to as many as you can be. if you could speak a minute to

the best way for the members of the public to provide feedback about vision zero that would be excellent. >> thank you. >> thanks nicole we are happy to get e mail to the vision zero sfmta.com e mail and happy to take e mails through the mayor's office on disability. i'm sure you have a closer ear to the ground on the top concerns. so that's another way for the members of public to pass on feedback. >> if you don't mind turn that information to the chat. thank you. >> are there any other comments on staff? members has questions? there are none. open up to public comment.

okay. if you would like to make public comment raise your hand by clicking on the raised hand i conor if you are cal nothing dial star 9 and you will be prompt when it is your turn. i see one member of the public interested in making public comment. at this time albert you are unmuted. >> hello you know i live in the southeast all my life in visitationvilley for 18 years and i moved excelsior district 9 and 10 and 11. i own a house in port ola district. [inaudible]. and am we have an issue with all the schools and the parks that

they put lines down in the mission on the street thick lines and also slow down. we need that in the [inaudible] visitation. and we need it by the public and private schools. the privatized the school and it is i don't know [inaudible] you know it is all rich kids and family are well to do. there are no lines there. i go to church every day and i have to help the elder low walk. i know they put the slow down the little things and slow streets that is not working. they need more bright yellow lines. also on 24th street. i go to a there by [inaudible] and st. peters and it is the same rich kids the lines need to be thicker the kids go to school in the morning.

people rush to get to work and the hospital. i recommend that night time it is scary down there. because people are using substances and don't see as well and in a hurry. i recommend especially in the southeast districts 9, 10 issue 11. thousands more people there they are going to the schools. so -- i guess it it is -- middle school. then the elementary school down there by mission valley play ground and church of visitation. this is a great need and then you go up there you have the other school. the ramps are greatest will we needed to cut out long the cut out on the corners. and that's great we need go further with the thick lines it is life and death situation. people with stroll and wheel

chairs, i use a cane periodically. thank you. thank you for your comment. is there any other public comment? i don't see other members of public who indicated they want to comment at this time. thank you. again, thank you very much. i hope this is the first time that we can work together and let's give us an update if well is any updates you want to share to us. thank you very much for coming. thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> now i will move to the next item 7.

visions zero san francisco safe streets for older adults and disabilities presented by that trishia erwin the san francisco department of public health. that pa trishia, welcome. >> good afternoon. slides will be coming up, thank you very much. >> thank you. so. again i'm patricia erwin with the know freshman d. public health with equity and he promotion branch.

and the community promotion branch we impelement the vision zero engage am work focused on -- older adults and adults with disabilities. if you could move to the next slide, please. to so far we arc briefiate our branch. i say that at times the community and promotion grants our focus on community engagement direct engagement to

inform the populations and organizing neighborhoods around the issues that may be happening. informing community members how they can be involved and support making changes and other solutions that people may have or agencies may have- the funding began july of 2022 with an initial term of 3 years. possible extension up to 6 years. and -- next slide, please. a major focus of our work and branch the department of public health and in this work on the vision zero work of community engagement, is focused on equity. and in this work, what that means for us is focusing on the most vulnerable road users i previously stated as well as

communities generally experiencing dispariies and safety in the streets. that includes black and people of color and limited english proficiency. connection. if you go -- back up like -- a little bit you cut off. i'm sorry. can you -- yes. is this -- is this a slide that i should repeat. >> yes. >> okay. i apologize. >> no worries. >> again a key part of our work is focused on equity theis out line in the the vision zero action plan and i know a key important area of focus for us in the department of public health as well. for our branch which does work on community engagement for vision zero.

what that means is focusing on most vulnerable road users. again older adults and people with disabilities. other communities experiencing disparities such as the black, indigenous people of color and limited english profortunate communities and a focus on streets in the high injury network. this was the equity focus a key element of the proposal review and the selection of cbo's. and next slide, please. the proposals were reviewed and a decision of made to award 4 communities based organizations. of each receive approximately 50 thousand dollars per year. and you can see here on the slide the 4 agencies are senior and disability action network.

china town community development. curry senior center and lighthouse for the approximate blind and visualy impaired they are all working with seniors and people with disabilities and at times on specific subgroups. blinds are visually impaired or other subgroups may be an area of focused depending. china town communities living in this neighborhood. again the focus is educating communities, supporting them sxndzing more about safe streets educating them and also teaching you know involve providing opportunity for them to be involved in improvements. the communities engage am opportunity community input through mta. there are different opportunities on how they can provide input.

and -- we are looking for the grants they are just getting storied they start in the july of 22 it takes arc while to get it r.ed up. we are looking forward to working with them and supporting them as an implement the programs and mayor's office on disability and mta. this slide i'm provides a brief snapshot of past accomplishments. from 2018 through 2022. june of 20224 years we -- also supported funded cbo's. and through this work, over 41,000 older adults and people with disabilities were reached again through education, workshops, social media and other engagement and some had opportunity to engage in activities to support

improvements and changes. this work includes what was done during the covid-19 pandemic, a lot of the work continues. much of it was virtual during the initialling period of the pandemic which had an impact on the direct out reach and engagement. but the work continued and so we are really -- pleased that we were able to continue it and funds a new round of cbo's again starting this past july. so -- my final slide i would like to acknowledge seth who leads vision zero san francisco for d ph and julie wong, the lead in this work and currently out so could not be here today. as well as jennifer dough who support this is in your branch. and our important partners at

mayor's office on disabilities and mta. and i'm happy to answer questions if time allows. next. i am opening up to if fellow councilmembers for questions raise your hand or -- let me know if you have any questions to patricia. i have a question. i know that in the past -- there was -- vision zero with this

topic. came to us and i raised a question. in the past. that -- our specific how many people would disability? incident when it miss to -- market and -- and -- one of the reasons for rememberment to reminds -- and taking now my

question to you is do we have a need -- numbers or -- um -- data or how -- many people by now are in the past. >> so i understand approximate way have data on the number of people with disabilities who had dintss in the street where there were injuries or death. >> when it come mobility meaning wheel chairs -- and things like

that. right. would need to ask my colleague in the department of public health our lead and i can get become to you. i do know although the numbers are high there is relatively sxhaul there is protected health information and to ensure that people are not identified. so -- we may or may not be able to provide that. i will connect with seth. and get back to you either way. >>you know get you the information or if we are not able begin what i said. >> thank you so much. and i'm openingly up the question to the staff. [inaudible]. >> i was going to say through the chair. to your question, one of the things hi patricia, noise to see you thank you for being here. one of the things we have done

in the past because of -- restrictions we have around release of information for specific low that hospital sensitive data is aggregate disability and older adult members. and in order to get to something to start i wanted say, the mayor of disability remains interested in helping to figure out how we can best present this information to be transparent to the public and still -- protect the information that needs protecting. so i want to offer that forward. and then -- to my other question is that and i'm so excited we have the grantees we have for this coming cycle. i wonder if there is -- any plan or opportunity and if there is

not then you would be happy to help. but it would be great to convene the awardees who are working on disability in senior and i know there are old issues to learn from each other. what they are doing and how everything can be worked together. i had the pleasure of being able to review some of the proposals and there is -- really excellent individual work the grantees will be doing but there is a fair aim they have in common. and so -- it would be that would being great to really convene sxefrn talk about disability in san francisco and safe streets. so i wondered if there were plan or opportunity for that. >> yes. that's a great idea nicole thank you for raising that and we can we are just getting the grantise

going and finalizing the subcontracts. but let's be in touch. we would loch to do that jewel whoa leads the work is out through the end of the year may be in early 2023 men we can work together and figure out when might be good timing. initial low and then periodic check in's that's a great idea i appreciate you bringing that up. thank you. >> it would be absolutely happy top help with that. thanks a lot patricia, so much. >> are there other staff members ask questions? >> okay. -- open up to public comment. >> a reminder to the public you

can make public comment by raising your hundred and clicking the raised hand i conin the zoom platform or dialing star 9 if you are call nothing over the phone and you will be prompted when it is your turn. you can indicate you want to comment by writing in the q and a box or texting your comment in the q & a box to have it read by the clerk. i do see one member of the public interested in commenting. >> you will hear my voice a lotteen fidon't get elected to the disability council. you know, i want to make a comment and i want to ask for

manzel one up from the [inaudible] to what happensp what happened they put this walk and separate and took the separation away. which that was originally designed to keep the cars separated with the island in between. they made a walk way on the i guess would be the westbound side in the east side is open to both only a one lane like a mark it is just a lane. yea a lane. separates the cars. so we had head ones and rec and park people guy from getting head's on when they first did temperature at visit you know and manzel they have the blinking lights like to manzel station. they did by when the kid goe