>> good morning and welcome to the rules committee meeting of the san francisco board of supervisors. i am the chair of committee aaron peskin joined by member mandelman and chan. before i start, i would like to wish supervisor chan a very

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1 (415) 655-0001 / meeting id: 2490 941 5949 # # (press *3 to enter the speaker line) please remember to turn down your television and other guys. we will be taking public comment in person first and then those on the telephone line. that completes my initial comment. thank you, mr. young. please read the first item.

>> >>clerk: 1. 220938 [mayoral appointment, public utilities commission - kate stacy] motion approving/rejecting the mayor's nomination for the appointment of kate stacy to the public utilities commission, for a term ending august 1, 2026. (clerk of the board) >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you. colleagues, there is someone known to the panel deputy who served with the attorneys office for quite some time and we know from our work with land use team over many years in my case since the year 2001, i had the opportunity to meet with ms. stacy and perhaps you did as well colleagues. before we hear from her, i will tell you my bias which i think this is a nomination by the mayor for the public utilities

commission seat no. 4, formally held by the general manager of puc hanson, who has to be someone with experience with puc and power utilities and i believe ms. stacy experience with ceqa and from water quality is part of that regard. with that, if there are no other additional comments or questions, i would like to invite ms. stacy up to make a statement. good morning, ms. stacy. >> good morning chair peskin and supervisors. thank you for the nomination and

for the rules committee considering it. i have worked with the city over 30 years and just retired this month. and my past experience makes this position very compelling to me. i have a particular concern about climate change. climate change is changing our world so quickly and so potentially disastrously and it affects all the programs that the puc manages, water, wastewater and energy. this city both has to react to the effects of climate change and also work to anticipate and mitigate the effects of climate change. it's our critical obligation to each other and future generations. first in respect to the water program, our supply is changing for a variety of reasons and we need to respond to these changes and to care for our watershed

areas and we need to conserve and reuse our water carefully and wisely and work to protect the rapidly changing environments in which we find ourselves and the water system. i have seen such creative work on our water system while working on the water improvement program. i saw the activist and planners and engineers study from hetch hetchy on behalf of the fish, frogs, and the kayaking on the tuolumne river and was a collaborative effort and i know we are going to need those creative and collaborative efforts in the future and i need to be part of that and we know the bay is constantly evolving. the temperature and water conditions are changing and we

need to continuously evaluate how we can improve our wastewater system to respond to this and improve the environment of the bay, the city and our neighborhoods. there is plenty of work ahead. finally with respect to energy, what a difference we know clean energy can make. we must be persistent and unyielding in our efforts to provide cleaner, cheaper energy for all users. watching the operators at mock son manage the flow and provides for many bay area and san francisco users. we will use more and be persistent in making that happen. the city has never shyed away on taking a leadership position and saw that through my work in this city. the city has been and will

continue to be a part of it and i will be honored to contribute to that effort. thank you very much for honoring my nomination. >> thank you, ms. stacy. we share your sentiments. are there any other comments? >> supervisor connie chan: thank you. i would like to thank you for this commitment to this city, not only for your work but now will continue to work. i asked that in our previous rules committee that i will be in support of your appointment and glad you are here today. >>supervisor aaron peskin: it should be fun being your former bosses boss. with that -- is there any public

comment? >> >>clerk: public comment call in 1 (415) 655-0001 / meeting id: 2490 941 5949 # # (press *3 to enter the speaker line) for those already in the queue, please wait until you are unmuted. we have no persons present here. we have one online person. can you hear me? public speaker: david. as indicated seat 4, to be a member with public utilities commission management and is a deputy

attorney with land use and ceqa expertise, but not public utility management expertise in my opinion. this seat has been held by a retired puc employee and there are many of those to choose from like cheryl davis, larry klein, marlow, and karen, among many others. i would hope reappointing andy moran, and both puc had andy moran and with a non-manager who lacks expertise. this rules committee could reject this nominee and seek to have the mayor appoint a qualified person to this seat. ms. stacy is certainly qualified for other appointments but not this one in my opinion. thank

you for hearing my comments. >> are there any additional speakers on this item no. 1? >> >>clerk: that was our only caller on this matter. >> public comment is closed. when mr. -- becomes mayor, he can nominate whoever he chooses. but i find the qualifications that were created by this supervisor in proposition e whatever year it was 2007 or 8, i think i wrote the qualifications for the members of the puc commission and subject to all of them to ratification by the board of supervisors and the voters voted for that. i find that ms. stacy does indeed have experience in water systems. to that end, i will make the motion to amend the subject motion by removing in the title

the word "rejecting" at line 3 and removing the word "rejects". on the motion, >> roll call, please. >>clerk: [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >> i will make a motion to send the recommendation to the board of supervisors october 15th. >> a motion to recommended the amended motion. >> [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >>supervisor aaron peskin: ms. stacy, are # -- it would appear

if the board votes you in, you may serve october 15, 2022. next item. >> >>clerk: 2. 220996 [presidential appointment, child care planning and advisory council - jessica campos] motion approving/rejecting the president of the board of supervisors shamann walton's nomination of jessica campos (residency requirement waived) for appointment to the child care planning and advisory council, term ending march 19, 2024. (clerk of the board) >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you. is jessica campos available? good morning. >> good morning, supervisor peskin and supervisors. my name is is jessica campos currently working as the community engagement lead and prior to this was the manager for the early start program in the bayview area which is one of the primary headstart providers in san francisco. i am here to

talk a little bit about the role of cpac. not only in my role of office of racial equity. do we push for equity in all areas, but with my previous experience with early headstart and headstart and importance of providing a holistic approach for our families, providing support for our parents, our children, but also ensuring the equitable support for our teachers in our field and i'm honored to accept the nomination if you will have me. thank you. >> thank you, ms. campos. you are clearly qualified. i don't see any questions or comments from committee members. are there any members of the public who would like to testify on this presidential appointment? >>clerk: members of the public who would like to comment on this item and joining us in person, please lineup.

for those callers public comment call in 1 (415) 655-0001 / meeting id: 2490 941 5949 # # (press *3 to enter the speaker line) i do not see anybody in line to speak and we have no callers on the line for public comment on this matter. >>supervisor aaron peskin: all right. public comment is closed. and i will make a motion noting that a residency waiver is required to remove the word "rejecting" for line 3. and send this item to amend it to the full board for a positive recommendation hearing october 15th.

>> roll call, please. >>clerk: [roll call] the motion passes without objection. >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you. next item, please. >>clerk: 3. 220843 [administrative code - approval of surveillance technology policies for multiple city departments] ordinance approving surveillance technology policies governing the use of 1) automatic license plate readers by the municipal transportation agency, 2) biometric processing software or system by the juvenile probation department, 3) body-worn cameras by the fire department and recreation and park department, 4) people-counting camera by the library, 5) security cameras by the department of elections, 6) third-party security cameras by the airport, municipal transportation agency, police department, and war memorial, 7) location management >>supervisor aaron peskin: there

was the enactment of the civil code for the policy. this is the next wave of those, we have about 50 or such policies and would like to thank the departments on this committee for the information technology and putting them together. i actually enjoyed reading them because it reminded me what the fundamental purpose of 19b was for transparency to the public and most importantly to remind what they are doing with them and remind them that they need to have retention and access policies. so the exercise is if not more than half of the battle

and i still have a number of questions. with that, let me thank and welcome ms. johnson from the office of the city administrator and the director of the committee on information technology. good morning. >> good morning. thank you very much for your time. and the introduction. my name is ms. johnson. here to give you an overview and the role in developing information technology as described in the admin code. just as an overview, coit is the city and government and it --

information technology and to collaborate regularly with coit and able to share with residents this technology in this city. this is a quick overview of our main responsibilities. we developed a five year technology plan, develop annual budget recommendations for the mayor and the board and portfolio management of i.t. products and we are here to develop these technology policies. with regard to item b, our coit duties are to maintain surveillance inventory which is at the link provided. it's a listing of all the tech in the city and continues to be in use as well as any new surveillance technology that they have developed a policy for.

we work with departments to develop impact reports and surveillance technology policies as defined by 19b. conduct public hearings on those documents and recommend actions to the board of supervisors on those policies as well as collect annual surveys reports and check for any potential changes that that are additional changes and how they use their surveillance technology and policies and how it's achieved their intended goals. one of the things we use to help develop these policies and the first step for the department is the surveillance tool kit which is the image on the right to start the process by developing the policies and reports by enhancing the tool kit which involves a robust assessment and

streamline our requirements and helps inform the impact reports and helps inform the board of supervisors so they can assess whether or not the benefit of the technology outweigh the costs. speaking of benefits and costs, this tool kit also helps departments to consider the potential privacy impacts of their technologies as ways of mitigating those impacts. you can see there is an nist privacy framework that helps the various departments on the various technology and as far as dignity loss, loss of harmony and helps to mitigate that impact and maybe mitigated. coit also created a policy board to work on policies and impact

reports and advisory board that holds two meetings a month. to help departments strengthen their policies and impact reports and that has included in the past folks from the city, currently the chair of the body and from the controller's office and members from coit. a quick overview of the review process. surveillance technology policies start-up from being developed with a tool kit with their review and policy and they are heard from 1-3 meetings before they go to coit for their review and approval. following coit's approval, city attorney

reviews this and sent to the board of supervisors and then it's sent to the mayor's office. after this is approved, there is an annual report. here is a snapshot of the inventory today. 171 identified surveillance technologies across this city. we have currently 36 of those technologies that have received board and mayoral approval before today. today you will have reviewed 13 recommended policies and the next slide represents the 13. across the airport, juvenile, a list of the technologies

policies that you have available for you and we have representatives from each of these departments here and virtually to answer questions you might have about those documents. thank you. >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you, ms. johnson. i very much again appreciate your work and that high level presentation. can you explain the classification levels to this committee? >> sorry, what is the classification level? >> throughout various policies there are references to different classification levels, 2, 3, can you explain that schema to us? >> i'm not sure that i can. i will refer to my privacy analyst. >> hello, my name is julia, the analyst of the committee on information technology.

the classification levels are related to the level of basically privacy related to that material. one is public information, and five is the most sensitive data. so perhaps like health information or something like that. everything in between is like a different step of the sensitivity of the data that is being kept. >> the definitions are ours, where did we get those classification levels from? >> i believe the classification level is from mist. i believe it is the data that helps inform those classifications as well. >> at your leisure, if there is some set of definition that you can provide to the rules committee for inclusion in the feel, i didn't see that. that

would be helpful. >> yes, it is posted on the website. we'll forward that to you. >> thank you so much. >> with that, colleagues, it would be my proposal to go through these in the order that my staff gave those to me starting with the airport and security cameras. i don't know if there are any opening comments from members of the rules committee. if not, shall i address these to you and if there is somebody from the department will you cover it? >> yes. >> so as to the airport security camera technology, the question, i had a couple of questions because these all seem to be based on rules 7.0. and i'm sure

this is going to be -- is there someone here from the airport? >> there are a few from the airport. >> come on up. i will say we just spent a number of meeting dealing with 19b policy as it relates to the police which has now been approved by the full board of supervisors that was controversial to say the least particularly as it relates to, there was a third party surveillance camera policy and it was the live monitoring that was the controversial part. so my questions are really about that. and in rule 7.0, which is

airport security, i assume all of your tenants in their leases have to adhere by reference to the lease in the report rules, is that the connection? >> that's correct. yes. my name is -- from the airport security services. yes, it releases those and every one of those has a stipulation that requires them to comply with all rules and city ordinances as part of that. >> got it. the policy seems to deal with the ordinance and is fine. but the rule 7.0 has a provisions in subsection b that speaks to all access to footage is available to the aviation security unit at all times.

which to me sounds like the airport can live monitor? >> that is reflected also in the policies in the actual response to incidents should there be an incident and there is benefit to reviewing real time, then we should be able to do that. it mostly relies to the components of it. as regulated by the tsa, where it covers for that where if something should affect airport security, we should be able to go in with respect to tenants be able to review that to see if that will help the investigation. >> i don't see where in the policy, don't get me wrong. live

monitoring has always been in 19b, can you direct me to where in the policy it deals with live monitoring outside of circumstances? >> it has been shown to do that and will be used to respond to incidents where we have an opportunity to review past camera footage. >> so, i'm not seeing that in the policy itself. i see it in the rule, but it's not addressed in the policy. let's just deal with the policy. the policy is very clear. authorized uses and says prohibited use cases in cases not stated. reviewing camera footage in the event of an incident and approve tenants of

disclosure of reporting camera system which i read which may be you read it differently as distorted footage. >> this covers us for those instances where we actually have the need to review that. that instrument is appropriate for that. however for everyday use, that is stored in the case of a situation that may arise. >> ms. johnson, far be it from me, i think what i just put my finger on isn't really dealt with in the policy. if it said

live monitoring is for ex-gint -- circumstances only but i don't see the provision. >> i would assume the admin code section on exigency. >>supervisor aaron peskin: i will work with council and continue this and find the language that makes it clear

that your 7.0 sub b rule is only in exigency circumstances. >> i completely agree with you. rule 7 precedes the document that we may have missed. we would be happy to take the recommendation. >> okay. the next thing i was going to bring up that as to the data sharing which is an interesting one for you because our airport is in a different county, so what you have here is internal data sharing which means among city agencies, you list the district attorney. but anything that happens at san francisco international airport

actually involves district attorney of san mateo county. so somebody does something that requires prosecution, i believe that is prosecuted not by our district attorney, but by their district attorney. >> that would be accurate. >> so, i don't think that, but there may be reasons that you want to do internal data sharing with our district attorney, but i don't know what those would about because they don't have jurisdiction with san mateo county. >> i believe they cover our city attorney's who support us. >> the city attorney's are separately listed and i have a question whether you want to list our city attorney's. certainly you want to list our police, and sheriff. are they on

the code? >> certainly they can be internal and we have those at the airport to support us policing wise. >> okay, we can discuss this in the intervening week as well. as to external data sharing and the airport is a unique creature as it relates to tsa and the federal government, but there is this very broad other law enforcement agencies and i think it's worth an off line discussion in the intervening week as to what that means to federal agencies. >> i would be happy to take that off. >> and to other policies, the

public defender of san mateo county, not ours, is listed but not listed in this one. i think that's the totality of the questions that i have for the airport surveillance technology policy. it otherwise looks really good. we'll continue that one if it's okay with you colleagues. i have no questions about the impact report associated with that one. that would move us on to the fire department's body worn camera policy. it sounds like it's the body worn cameras used for institutional purposes as that great video that i showed of your rescue and that's all it is limited to. >> good morning, supervisors.

yes, currently that is held by our pio officer. we have other body cams for other purposes. >> it says under authorized use. used by public information officer as in one person. but elsewhere it refers to two people. it's a minor detail, but should it say public information officers, plural? >> correct. we were referring to the position rather than the individual, but yes. and there is another individualisted -- listed in that i.t. position where it is cited. >> there is a 1070 project.

>> that is somebody who has access, that was an access issue. >> correct. >> somewhere in here. >> page 3, if you are looking for it. >> page 3 of the policy or report? >> of the policy. it says department employees and project manager. >> the only person that collects it is the pio. >> correct. >> any questions or comments? >> thank you very much. >> that takes us to juvenile probation department scram technologies plural, which was fascinating. i have no questions unless my colleagues do. if you want to tell us

something? it was really interesting. i think it's really interesting that, i'm glad to know this technology exists and that you are using it responsibly and i like the policy. >> thank you. >> >> supervisor connie chan: i think for the general public because we talk about biometrics, can you for the record talk about what they are and because we have this cam. >> yes, i'm very happy to do so. we also have the probation officer on teams in case we get too technical. both of these devices are certified devices and only gets applied with a court order. the more frequently device is an electronic monitor that at least

once per minute tracks the location of the wearer through a central locater and the officer can monitor that location. and we have the alcohol monitor. that takes little samples of the user's perspiration every 30 minutes and send the information to the monitor that tracks it. those are used very rarely only with court order. on average we have roughly ten people placed on gps monitoring by the court at any given time. >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you for that question, supervisor chan. why don't we move onto the

public library that has a couple of policies, computer management and the patron counter system which i note does not report or store any video images, but merely does counts of where people are at for statistical purposes and that information is retained indefinitely and interesting read but i have no questions on that, unless my colleagues do. and this media software which also has no questions. that is true. any questions or comments from my colleagues? all right. supervisor chan, my apologies. >> supervisor connie chan: i just want to actually appreciate the system. i do think that

giving just the wide range of populations in public libraries from kids to grown ups and especially sharing computers, and i actually just want to express my appreciation for setting the rules and policies for our public libraries, and just for public record. i also while i do have some questions about patron counters, but i do appreciate the social media monitoring computer management system for those, and just a quick question and i may not have this. i just wanted to quickly understand for all of those three, how does the public have access to the data? if they do? or the records of it.

>> good morning, my name is randy mcclure at the library. the question, i want to be sure it is clear to answer. how does the public have access to the data? >> yes. >> are we talking about the patron counter data? >> yes. >> those are aggregated. we count our visitors at all 28 locations throughout the city and publish them internally to the library so see if the percentages are up or down. the public can request that data. it's level one data. it's simply numbers. the other thing the city requires us to publish performance measures and we do that on a city scorecard in addition to an annual report, then we also publish this

information and again aggregated data to the state, california state library as well as various national organizations such as the american library association and the public library association. so it ends up out there in a lot of ways but no sensitive data is involved. >> thank you. >> all right. that takes us on to the department of election of security cameras which was interesting. good morning. >> good morning. >> i had a couple of questions. i absolutely appreciate the fact that members of the public can actually watch the various aspects of the election live. i

think it instills trust in the process. but i was a little confused about the retention policies where it looks like on page 4, the things are automatically deleted ten days after recording is made, and then under the data retention policy it says that it will be stored for a minimum of one year. can you help me reconcile that. what am i missing? >> i don't have the answer for that. >> and then the other thing i was going to mention is in so far as i think during the elections you are using these things 24/7, but outside of the election, you are not. so i think where it says under data quality on page 2, that the

cameras run 24/7, 365, i don't think that is accurate. so why don't we clean up those two things in the intervening weeks. ms. johnson, i think the way this works is either you change the policy or the board can by ordinance change the policy, either way is fine. that substance of the policy is great, once we figure out the ten year one year discrepancy sea, but either you can fix it or we can fix it. >> it sounds like a plan. >> excellent. >> one comment. we canceled the subscriptions to retain any recordings. so probably around half the cameras right now, the

connection with google, there is no recording and by the end of this year, all recording will expire and will not be retaining in the action from the streaming. everything we have is just strictly streaming. >> okay, maybe we want to address that in the policy. keep doing what you are doing in the election. >> thank you, sir. . >> that takes us to rec's and parks and body cam report. i had a few questions here.

i guess it's in the order that i scribbled my notes. under data security, there was something that i was a little concerned about which is, it says access is limited only to the chief park ranger, but then adds the words "or designee". it's a big loophole that you can drive a truck through. if the chief park ranger designates anybody, i mean that designee status has to be prescribed. it has to be another sworn officer or something, but it can't be open-ended or designee, because then i'm going like how did the other party who has no access have access to --

this policy. so we have to fix that. the next under "data sharing". under "external data sharing", the internal stuff all looked fine. please share city attorney, public defender, great. the stern, did not incorporate prohibitions on potentially sharing camera footage with ice or similar organizations. i think that needs some work. under data retention period, it says body worn camera to be

restored for a minimum of one year. that i'm not comfortable with. i would be comfortable if it was a maximum of one year. the noted is limitation and this is not limiting concepts. i think that needs some work. then on page 4, the data retention policy. actually going back to access. it says after department employees, it says chief park rangers and lieutenant park ranger. i think there is only

one chief a ranger and multiple lieutenant park rangers. is that true? >> good morning. yes, that is a typo. there is only one chief park ranger, that is david murphy and the lieutenant park ranger. we can change that. >> perfect. that would work. if it says chief park ranger or lieutenant park ranger. is there only one lieutenant park ranger? >> yes. we have two people. >> on top of page 4, chief park ranger singular. under data retention, we talked about the minimum. then there seems to be some inconsistency under data

disposal. it says that you delete, this is in the middle of the page. practices, evidence.com to delete after one year but then page six, it says minimum of one year. you need to reconcile those. if the data on the policy is to be stored and deleted in one year, they are consistent. >> to clarify, the evidence.com stored for one year, but for our standard purposes is retained for one year, but if there is an investigation, we keep it until closure. there is a reference to that. >> i gotcha. it makes perfect sense. we have agreed in all circumstances that for an active investigation, you can continue to store, i think you could be a little clearer here. those are my comments for that

and maybe we can hold that into the the one week later pile. and that takes us to and this, i didn't see this in the policy but this impact may jump out. page two of the impact report, acts onto the product description of body worn camera, and not to sound snotty, but it sounds like you did this from an advertisement for axon. because it says it isn't for cameras but for data and for low reduction and includes real features. so regardless of where that came from, that tells me that these

things are capable of live monitoring, livestreaming. this sounds like an advertisement that can be put to what does it really do in english, raises the issue of live monitoring which is their needs -- there needs to be something that you don't do but now that technology is capable of doing it, the policy has to say that you are not doing it and if you are, the policy has to address it. >> we are not livestreaming. >> you might want to include that in the there that we do not use livestreaming. >> >> supervisor connie chan: no

problem. thank you chair peskin. i just wanted to drive down to law enforcement and where are we landing on that. you are coming back next week, but how are we cleaning that up. it's fine with the police and sheriff's and district attorney identifying to be the san francisco agencies, but when you say outside law enforcement, i'm not too sure exactly who that would be. is it u.s. park police, which they are actually within our function and roaming in our jurisdiction, or are we just going to say no outside law enforcement? >> that's a great question. i'm going to pass that to chief murphy. >> which by the way, is another suggestion for the policy which is as to sharing with outside law enforcement. other policies say only with a warrant.

>> yes. >> chief david murphy. good morning chair peskin, supervisor chan, supervisor mandelman. we work with the park inside the presidio and the college of fine arts that borders with presidio and we do work with those. we can put in if it's your best practice to put in a warrant with the body worn camera footage, we can do that going forward. >> i'm not telling you what to do but a way to address it one or the other. that is an option for you but it needs to be addressed in someway. >> i appreciate it.

>> thank you. >> all right. thank you for that, supervisor chan. as we go on to the next policy, maybe you are the person as the former rec's and parks to ask you this one. which is the tenants reservation application. this is much more pedestrian than law enforcement stuff. raise a series of concerns with me for a number of reasons. one is that it sounded to me like in order to get a tenant's reservation, i had to go get a third party app. are there ways if i'm not an app person, i can get a reservation? this is kind of a different, i'm not getting to the surveillance part yet. that's next. >> to clarify, we have 150 tennis courts throughout the

city and only eight of them can be use online. we have a call in option for reservations as well. >> that exists? >> we will be rolling that out in the future. >> so if i don't do apps or i don't have that technology or access there to, i can get half the city's courts but not the other ones? but i can call in to use the other ones. >> correct. >> we don't have our own software so we don't have to use others software. here is why i ask because when i attached this and what others

have to use, their pricing policy sucks. basically what this says is if i want to reserve a tennis court, and i'm not even dealing with the fact that at some point somebody gets to see where i'm standing which is part of this and that raises some concerns, but i understand that that is important because you need to know the person is actually at the tennis courts. but what is really not okay is that their terms say that they can mind your friend's list, profile information, buy it, sell it, they can share it with other governmental authorities. they can market it to offer you products or services that may be of interest to you. the list goes on, and to at insult to

injury, they can add to this policy as much as they want. so that is funky. >> i haven't looked into the policies and the areas, just management. we really only focus on the location policy of this policy. >> i'm sure that you are focused on that, but what they are focused on the fact that, i want to rent a tennis court. in order to do that, some third party is getting on my friend's list from the app which is nuts. now i know she knows and attaching the service. if we created our own app, you would

still need the gps data to make sure that person showed up for their reservation. if they don't, you try to get them to use the court. i understand that. but what is really unacceptable for me as a consumer trying to use the public as a tennis court, and i'm sure this information that can be sold by google. that's not cool. >> good morning, supervisor peskin, supervisor chan, happy birthday. these are great recommendations and i'm happy to work with them to fix some of the privacy issue if there are concerns. but the public can go to the computer and use it and don't have to sign in to that app and

we have options to walken and play tennis because it has become such a wide sport and why we provided this format. we'll continue the work and we'll be happy to take that information into consideration. >> thank you. we'll discuss this a little bit more. but i'm notten client to approve this one. why don't we move on to mta. >> taxi dashboard camera. at risk of sounding nerdier than i already sound, i want to say

that this was a really cool impact report. just i mean for anybody who is listening, check this thing out. the discussion of dignity loss, economic loss, loss of autonomy, loss of liberty, really good work totally justifies the use of it which is actually really done by the taxi companies, but you have access to, i have no questions but i just wanted to give you a compliment. on the automated license plate readers. was that yours too? mr. mccormick.

>> it depends on which section you are in. >>supervisor aaron peskin: also good report. external data sharing page 6. the department may share alpr data with the following recipients, parking garage, under contract, vendors under contract. i just want to be clear that that was only, that's it. >> that's our plan, absolutely. >> and current practice. all right. that answers that question. then under authorized uses. i think what i learned from this policy is that, and i kind of new this, but i didn't really, it never formed as a full thought in my mind. you stopped

talking tires say in residential park, areas, and now it's all license plate readers. is that true? >> we are moving in that direction. it's not completely there yet, but we are prepared in case there should be a court ruling that would prohibit us from being able to use chalk because of the circumstancesth -- sixth circuit division. there is pressure applied in the ninth circuit as well. >> that is more than i want to know. if you are using these in residential parking areas to figure out whether people passed their time limit, two hours, whatever it is. in so far as people park parallel, how do you

see the license plates? >> we are able to see the license plates at an angle as well. when people are backed in, we can read the plates. in places where california requires two license plates is that we have a plate in the front and rear of the vehicle and we are able to read the plate. >> the reader is affixed to one of the carts >> yes. we have them right now. we are continuing to put those on the vehicles. >> any questions for the mta. thank you for that. >> supervisor connie chan: thank you, my apologies. what is the retention rates for the license plates? >> so for the data that doesn't result in a volition, the

retention rate is 14 days, partially for the reason if we are not talking vehicles for the 72 hour regulation, now as a policy we are allowing 5 days. with the long weekends, we set it for 14 days. and then if there is a violation that is issued or citation that is issued then the retention will be one year of the life of the citation. a parking citation has a maximum life of five years. >> if it results in a violation is one year. >> it's one year even though the life of the citation is five years. people would not be contesting it. somebody may want to come back to contest a citation eight months later and for some reason they waited that long and we'll review that

location. >> i don't understand the technology. so help educate me. does that mean you scan the license plates or is it just a photo that also records the model and maker of the car and allowing the license plates with it? how does that work? >> it's a little bit of a combination. the camera is looking for the square. when it locates the square it's taking that picture and part of that picture can also include the logo such as saying it's a mercedes-benz or bmw. and this can take a picture of the vehicle. if your car is painted the same color all the way around it picks up enough of that so you can figure it out and it's in files to manage for future references if we come

back for a second time. >> will the person be also notified and recognized that this is based on a license plate reader, therefore we identify you in violation? >> yes, there is a note to go on a parking citation. the citation is not issued from the cpi system but camera and we let people know that it's lpr based. there is only so many characters. it gives us the license plate recognition. if they go to a hearing, the hearing officer can request to be able to make those available and look for whether or not there is consistency or an issue. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: thank you, mr. mccormick. sf mta.

that takes us to the war memorial which i don't have any questions on unless colleagues, you do. all right. thank you all for spending your morning with us. why don't we take this item no. 3 open for public comment. we had no members for the last one. let's see if we have any for this one. >> >>clerk: for those members that are present, please lineup to speak.

public comment call in 1 (415) 655-0001 / meeting id: 2490 941 5949 # # (press *3 to enter the speaker line) >> i do not see any members of the public in the room and we have two callers ready to speak. >> public speaker: once again, david, i support this ordinance. i understand this will likely be continued with changes. i appreciate the diligence of the chair in reviewing the detailed fir's and ftp's and appreciate the various department heads and staff throughout this complicated stuff and people spending a lot of time trying to get it right. i would invite the members of the public to visit the website and attend coit website meetings

to review these policies. thank you very much. also a reminder to boards and commissions to forward approved rules to the board of supervisors under charter section 4.104a 1 which provides a relevant part to adopt rules consistent with the charter and all such regulations shall be filed with the board of supervisors and rules at the airport that govern their tenants and responsibilities. and some new record types that are created by these policies and practices, i would encourage departments to review and update their record retention policies and schedules because there may be things that now have new record types and retention periods whether it's one year or two years or different amounts

that are not reflected in their current details record retention policies and schedules. thank you again for listening. >> thank you. >> there are no additional callers on the phone. >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: all right. public comment is closed. you would think we would have heard from the american civil liberties union and the electric foundation as we are dealing with law enforcement but i guess they only care about police and not other law enforcement. okay. that is what it is. there are a couple of different ways -- sorry for that gratuitous. don't worry counselor. we are way ahead of you. there are a couple ways to do this. we can duplicate the file

and keep the main portion here and will remain for the board of supervisors on the 15th. is that good, colleagues? okay. first i will amend the original file by removing the policy that we actually dealt with that i just referred to and that is the police department's third party security camera policy that we disposed of. to that end and in the long title and not referenced in the body ordinance at line 9, on page 1, we should remove the words "police department". and on that amendment a roll call, please. >>clerk: on that motion, [roll

call] >> that motion passes. >> >>supervisor aaron peskin: now, what i would like to do is duplicate the file, and in the original file we'll just go through this. keep automatic license plate readers at line 2, biometric juvenile probation at line 4, whatever, line 4 and 5. remove at line 6 for body worn cameras and rec's and parks department, because we are going to keep that one here. keep people counting by the

library, remove security cameras by departments of elections at line 7. at line 8, thirty party security cameras by the remove airport. keep mta, we already removed police department. keep war memorial. location management systems bike the juvenile probation department, yes, but strike and the rec's and parks department. keep computer management system by the library and social media monitoring by the library. did that make sense to you, mr. young? >> let's do it together. we've already struck -- >> before we go to that file, we are duplicating the file.

>> we are duplicating the file before i changed anything. we are amending the original. in the original we have removed at line no. 6. page one, rec's and parks department. at line 7, we are removing all of clause no. 5. "security cameras by department of elections is removed. >> no. 6, reads 5, third party security cameras by remove,

airport." where it reads by municipal transportation agency and war memorial. no. 7, as 6. location management systems by the juvenile probation department, and remove the words and the recreation and park department. no. 8, to 7. computer management system by the library. no. 9, to 8 on 11, and have it read as it is social media monitoring, software by the library and making acquired findings and set approvals. on those amendments, which counselor, i don't believe are reflected in the body, maybe they are. let's go to the body of the item

and see -- well, i guess technically in so far as we have removed all of item 5. security cameras by the department of elections, we could remove line 24 on page 2. that reference to 5, security cameras or we can keep it. your call, counselor. in which case if we did remove it, we would have to renumber 6 to 5, 7 to 6 and 8 to 7.

i guess that would be the right thing to do. any advice on that? >> deputy city attorney. i would suggest we just work this out separately. i think i understand how you went through it, the changes you want to make. >> basically what i want to do is forward all the policies with the recommendation minus the tenants reservation spotary policy. the airport's tenant security policy, the department of elections security camera policy, and the rec's and parks body worn camera policy. i want those to appear here monday the

10th in the complicated file. what i was going to do is make the corresponding changes to the duplicating file by removing everything that we are moving forward. the duplicating files have the policies that i spoke to. >> i want to be sure we did it accurately. >> my colleagues understand the amendments, and we will adopt those amendments which i would like to say without objection, am i allowed to say that anymore, or did the pandemic ruin my ability to say that. >> we prefer that you actually take a -- >> i thought so. >> roll call, please. on the original file, the amendment to take out the five policies that we are going to hear next week.

>> >>clerk: [roll call] >> the motion passes without objection. >> thank you. then i will make a motion to send that file to the full board with a positive recommendation. on the motion to send that amended file to the board with recommendations, >>clerk: [roll call] >> that motion passes without objection. then i will make the mirror corresponding amendments to the complicated file which is to remove item no. 1, automatic license plate readers, item no. 2, biometric software for jpd, to include as item no. 1, the

body worn cameras by the rec's and parks department. item no. 2, the security cameras by the department of elections. item no. 3 the location management system by the rec's and parks and remove everything else. on that amendment, i'm sorry? excuse me, you are absolutely right. the cameras by the airport will remain in the complicated file. thank you, supervisor chan. good catch. on that amendment, >> roll call, please. to be massaged by the deputy city

attorney. >>clerk: [roll call] >> motion passes without objection. >> then i will make a motion to continue the rules file to the meeting of the october 10th. and i will be working with the various departments on this. >> one moment while i check that date. i believe october 10th might be a holiday. >> by gosh it is. october 17th, it will be. you are right, indigenous people's day. >> yes, on the motion to continue the matter as amended to october 17th. [roll call] the

motion passes without objection. >> thank you, ms. johnson for your staff's work and we are adjourned. >>

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lot for a lot of folks and community. for us, it started back in 1966 and it was a diner and where our ancestors gathered to connect. i think coffee and food is the very fabric of our community as well as we take care of each other. to have a pop-up in the tenderloin gives it so much meaning. >> we are always creating impactful meaning of the lives of the people, and once we create a space and focus on the most marginalized, you really include a space for everyone. coffee is so cultural for many communities and we have coffee of maria inspired by my

grandmother from mexico. i have many many memories of sharing coffee with her late at night. so we carry that into everything we do. currently we are on a journey that is going to open up the first brick and mortar in san francisco specifically in the tenderloin. we want to stay true to our ancestors in the tenderloin. so we are getting ready for that and getting ready for celebrating our anniversary. >> it has been well supported and well talked about in our community. that's why we are pushing it so much because that's how we started. very active community members. they give back to the community. support trends and give back and

give a safe space for all. >> we also want to let folks know that if they want to be in a safe space, we have a pay it forward program that allows 20% to get some funds for someone in need can come and get a cup of coffee, pastry and feel welcomed in our community. to be among our community, you are always welcome here. you don't have to buy anything or get anything, just be here and express yourself and be your authentic self and we will always take care of you.

?oo hi, i'm holly lee. i love cooking and you are watching quick bites. san francisco is a foodie town. we san franciscoans love

our food and desserts are no exceptions. there are places that specialize in any and every dessert your heart desires, from hand made ice cream to organic cakes, artisan chocolate and cupcakes galore, the options are endless. anyone out there with a sweet tooth? then i have a great stop for you. i've been searching high and low for some great cookies and the buzz around town that anthony's are those cookies. with rave reviews like this i have to experience these cookies for myself and see what the fuss was all about. so let's see. while attending san francisco state university as an accountinging major, anthony's friend jokingly suggested he

make cookies to make ends make. with no formal culinary training he opened his own bakery and is now the no. 1 producer of gourmet cookies in the biarea and thank you for joining us on quick bites. how do you feel? >> i feel great. >> so i want to get to the bottom of some very burning questions. why cookies? >> it was a recommendation from a friend. hard to believe that's how it all started. >> why not pies and cakes? what do you have against pies and cakes, anthony. >> i have nothing against pies and cakes. however, that was the recommendation. >> you were on the road to be an account apblt. >> actually, an engineer. >> even better. and it led to making cookies. >> in delicious ways.

>> delicious ways. >> this is where the magic goes down and we're going to be getting to the truth behind cookies and cream. >> this is what is behind cookies and cream. >> where were you when the idea came to your mind. >> i was in my apartment eating ice cream, cookies and cream ice cream. how much fun, cookies and cream cookies. their cookies and cream is not even -- it took a lot of time, a lot of fun. >> a lot of butter.

>> a lot, a lot, a lot. but it was one of those things. all right, now behold. you know what that is? >> what is that? >> cookies and cream. >> oh, they are beautiful. >> yes, so we got to get --. >> all right, all right. we treat the cookies like wine tasting. i don't ever want anybody to bite into a cookie and not get what they want to get. we're training staff because they can look at the cookie and tell if it's wrong. >> oh, here we go. >> you smell it and then you taste it, clean the plat palate with the milk. >> i could be a professional

painter because i know how to do this. >> i can tell that it's a really nice shell, that nice crunch. >> but inside. >> oh, my god. so you are going to -- cheat a little bit. i had to give you a heads up on that. >> what's happening tomorrow? these cookies, there's a lot of love in these cookies. i don't know how else to say it. it really just makes me so happy. man, you bake a mean cookie, anthony. >> i know. people really know if they are getting something made with love. >> aww >> you know, you can't fool people. they know if you are taking shortcuts here and there. they can eat something and tell the care that went into it. they get what they

expect. >> uh-huh. >> system development and things like that. >> sounds so technical. >> i'm an engineer. >> that's right, that's right. cookies are so good, drove all other thoughts out of my head. thank you for taking time out it talk to us about what you do and the love with which you do it. we appreciate your time here on quick bites. i hope you've enjoyed our delicious tale of defendant 93 and dessert. as for me, my search is over. those reviews did not lie. in fact, i'm thinking of one of my very own. some things you just have it experience for yourself. to

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[♪♪] fisherman's wharf, this is a working wharf and it's part of the beauty of the san francisco area. >> before the restaurant, before the t-shirt shops. >> at first the fishermen would go out and do the harvesting. they process the crab. >> it really is industrial. it is fish processors. >> it's a working, living, breathing place. and it's a great place to visit and there's a lot of history. >> i'm a third generation italian fisherman. we're one of the oldest fishing families at fishermen's wharf. my family's been working here

since 1908. my boat's called the lovely martha. sport fishing means when you come out and catch your own fish on the boat. commercial fishermen come out, catch fish, it gets processed and they sell it to a store. they're selling crab off the boat. there's nothing more fresh than a crab. our crab are sweeter and better tasting. the meat is firmer. >> more crab. >> we love crab. we love the people out on the boats. they're awesome. >> what a good meal tonight. >> we just barely got down here in time. we would have come earlier if we knew how much fun it was. >> this is the place to get crab if you're looking for it. >> some of these boats have salmon permits. so every boat kind of does a different thing. you can come down here and have wild caught salmon that was just caught that morning or the night before and there's nothing fresher than that. >> that's the whole thing of

coming out on a party boat. you can catch your own crab, lock cod, halibut, salmon, you can't get that kind of fish. >> now the consumer can just buy here if they want to and take it home which is great. or they can buy it here and take it to one of the restaurants and they can have a glass of wine and enjoy the crab we just brought in for them. >> come on over. it's great. nice and beautiful here in san francisco and the port. definitely come. >> our fishermen are super excited. it's great to have the public come down here and interact. >> it's a whole experience for the family, where they bring the kids and interact and say wow, the crab's alive. it's going to claw me and everything. >> they really get excited they're coming down here and posting their recipes or pictures of the food. or their kids picking up the crab. they're making a whole experience out of it. >> it is going to give the

locals a part of san francisco that was taken away from them. >> now i have a reason to come back. >> i had a guy the other day come and say he hasn't been down to fisherman's wharf in 10 years. he said i'm going to come down here every weekend. >> for the first time in nearly two decades fishers have been granted the legal right to sell fish directly to the package right off their boat -- to the public right off their boats in san francisco. it's not only helping local fishers to stay afloat but it's evoking the spirit of the wharf by resurfacing the traditional methods of selling fish. but how is it regulated? and what does it take for a boat to be transported into a floating fish market? find out as we hop on board on this episode of "what's next sf." (♪♪♪) we're here with the owner and the captain of the vessel

pioneer. it's no coincidence that your boat is called the pioneer because it's doing just that. it's the first boat in san francisco to sell fish directly from the boat. how did you establish your boat into such a floating fish market? >> well, you know, i always thought that it would be nice to be able to provide fresh fish to the locals because most of the fish markets, you would have to do a large amount of volume in order to bring in enough fish to cover the overhead. when you start selling to the public that volume is much less so it makes it hard to make enough money. so being able to do this is really -- it's a big positive thing i think for the entire community. >> a very positive thing. as a third-generation fisherman joe as his friends call him has been trawling the california waters for sustainably caught seafood since an early age. since obtaining a permit to sell fish directly to the public he is able to serve fish at an affordable price. >> right now we're just selling what a lot of the markets like,

flat fish and rock fish and what the public likes. so we have been working for many, many years and putting cameras in them. there's the ability to short fish and we have panels that we open and close so we target the different species of fish by adjusting the net. and then not only that but then the net sort out the sizes which is really important. >> joe brings in a lot of fish, around 20,000 pounds per fishing trip to be exact. >> we had one day one time that we sold almost 18,000 pounds. >> it's incredible. >> i know, it's hard to imagine. >> but this wasn't always the case for joe. >> the markets that we have left in california, they're few and far between, and they really are restrictive. they'll let you fish for a couple months and shut you down. a lot of times it's rough weather and if you can't make your delivery you will lose your rotation. that's why there's hardly any boats left in california because of the market challenges. my boat was often sitting over here at the dock for years and i

couldn't do anything with it because we had no market. the ability to go catch fish is fine, i had the permits, but you couldn't take them off your boat. >> that was until the port commission of san francisco rallied behind them and voted unanimously to approve a pilot program to allow the fish to be sold directly to consumers right off their boats. >> the purpose of the program is to allow commercial fishers to sell their fish directly from their boats to the end consumer in a safe and orderly manner for the benefit of the overall fishing community at the port of san francisco. we have limited the program to certain types of fish such as salmon, halibut, tuna and rock fish. crab is restricted from this program because we did not want to interfere with the existing crab sales on taylor street and jefferson street. so this is not meant to favor one aspect of the fishing industry more than another. it's to basically to lift up the

whole industry together. >> and if joe the program has been doing just that. >> it was almost breathtaking whenever i woke up one morning and i got my federal receiver, my first receivers license in the mail. and that gave me permission to actually take fish off my boat. once we started to be able to sell, it opened things up a bit. because now that we have that federal permit and i was able to petition the city council and getting permission from san francisco to actually use the dock and to sell fish here, it was a big turning point. because we really didn't think or know that we'd get such a positive response from the public. and so we're getting thousands of people coming down here buying fish every week and so that's pretty cool. they like the fish so much that they take pictures of it when they cook it and they send us all of these pictures and then they ask us, you know, constantly for certain types of fish now. and when they come down here the one thing that they say is that they're so amazed that the fish

is so fresh they could eat a little bit during the week and it's still fresh all week in the refrigerator. so that's really cool. >> the fish is very fresh and the price is super. i don't think that you can get it anywhere in the bay area. i can see it, and i can stir fry it, wow, you can do anything you want. i just can say this is a good place to shop and you have a good experience. >> this program supports the strategic plan in terms of engagement, people being connected to the waterfront, and also economic vitality. because it's helping the fishermen to make ends meet. they have no guarantees in their businesses, not like some people, and we want to do everything that we can to help them to have a good and thriving business. >> how does it feel to be able to sell your fish locally kind of in the traditional way, like

your grandfather probably did? >> when i was a kid and i used to work in my dad's fish market, a lot of the markets that we sell to now are second and third and fourth generation markets. so i remember as a kid putting their tags on the boxes of fish that we shipped out of monterey and ship down to l.a. so it's kind of cool that we're still dealing with the same families. and this is probably about the only way that anyone can really survive in california is to sell your own fish. >> one of the advantages of this program is the department people that pull in the fish, they can find out where they caught it and find out more about the fisherman and that adds to their experience. the feedback from the fishers has been very good and the feedback from the customers have very good. and there's a lot of people coming to the wharf now that might not have done so. in fact, there's people that go through the neighboring restaurants that are going to eat fish inside but before they

go in they see the action on the dock and they want to kind of look at what's happening on the boat before they go in and they have a meal. so it's generated some conversation down at the wharf and that's a good thing. >> as you can see by the line forming behind me getting ready to buy fish, the pilot program has been a huge success. for more information visit sfsport.com. (♪♪♪) (♪♪♪) >> i lived in the mission neighborhood for seven years and before that the excel see your district. 20 years a resident of the city

and county of san francisco. i am the executive director of a local art space nonprofit that showcases work that relate to the latino community and i have been in this building for seven years and some of my neighbors have been here 30 year. we were notified from the landlord he was going to sell the building. when we realized it was happening it was no longer a thought for the landlord and i sort of had a moment of panic. i heard about the small sites program through my work with the mission economic agency and at met with folks from the mayor's housing program because they wanted to utilize the program.

we are dealing with families with different needs and capacities. conversations were had early in the morning because that is the only time that all the tenants were in the building and finally when we realized that meda did have the resources to buy the building we went on a letter writing campaign to the landlord and said to him we understand you want to sell your building, we understand what you are asking for and you are entitled to it, it's your land, but please work with us. what i love about ber nell height it represents the diversity that made me fall in love with san francisco. we have a lot of mom and pop shops and you can get all your resources within walking

distance. my favorite area of my home is my little small patio where i can start my morning and have my coffee is a sweet spot for me and i