>> good afternoon like to call the september 27, 2022 meeting of sfpuc to order. call the roll. >> president moran. >> here >> commissioner maxwell and commissioner paulson is excused today. >> um -- this meeting it held in person room 400 authorized by the california code section 54953e and mayor breed's 45th supplement to february 25, 2020 emergency proclamation.

all attends nothing person that all health and safety and rules adhered to all times. hand sanitize are stations are available and masks upon request. we welcome the public's participation during comment periods. the commission will take 2 minutes from those in person and then remote. you may provide comment by dialing 415-655-0001 then access code: 2486 804 5761 ## press star low to raise your hand to speak. you must limit comments to the topics discussed if you upon don't stay on the topic the chair w can interrupt. public comment made in a civil manner and direct your remarks to a commission as a whole not individuals. on behalf of the commission

thank you to sfgovtv staff for assistance. please silence your electronic device. item 14 has been remove friday the agenda and rescheduled. >> thank you. and before calling the first item of i like to announce the sfpuc acknowledges the owns and stewards of the unceded lands within the historic territory of the ramaytush ohlone tribe and other descendants. the historic recognized verona band of alameda county. sfpuc recognizes naevery sides within the greater bay area as benefits from the use and occupation of the ramaytush ohlone tribes lands before and after the san francisco sfpuc commission founding in 1932.

it is important this we recognize the history of the tribal landos which we reside but acknowledge and honor the fact that the people established a partnership with the sfpuc and members within the many greater san francisco bay area communities today. call the first item. why item 3 adopt findings under state legislation to allow hybrid meeting during the covid-19 and agendize a similar resolution in a meeting within the next 30 days. >> would you open public comment. why member who is wish to comment on item 3 press star 3 to speak. do we have anyone.to comment on item 3? do we have callers with hands raised? there are no callers.

>> public comment is closed. >> thank you. commissioners any comments? questions, can i have a motion and second? >> move. >> second. >> president moran. >> aye. >> ajamy >> aye >> chair maxwell. >> aye. >> the next is approval of the minutes for september 13, 2022, any corrections or comments? public comment y. member who is wish to comment on item 40 minutes press star 3 to raise your hand. do we have callers with hands raised for item 4? >> there are no callers in the queue. >> thank you. public comment on 4 is closed. >> any discussion?

motion and second. >> i will move. >> moved and seconded. roll call y. president moran. >> aye. >> ajami. >> aye. >> maxwell. >> aye. >> the item is adopted. next item. >> item 5 general public comment. members who wish to comment on matters within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda press star 3 to raise your hands to speak. do we have anyone present who would like to provide general public comment? do we have callers with hands raised. >> there are 6 users in the queue. >> thank you. >> caller i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> commissioners, my name is

francisco decosta. i was at city hall and rules committee and there were a number of agenda items that -- were discussed [inaudible]. one of them was about a project the biosolids, [inaudible] i want to know and we have not pinpointed started the sue are system improvement project as a 6 billion dollars project. one of the commissioners stated

a number issue 10 billionful i don't know where she got this from. i think it is 20 billion. not 20 billion i think it is 12 billion. so -- we need to know the public needs to know am since we have been kept out. we were promised 6 monthly presentations from the digest and improvement projects and have not been given that. i want to know i don't want to use the freedom of information act. what number have you reached to date? is it 12 billion, 14 billion? i know you cannot give me a reply there is that's not a loed but i would like to know that. may be someone can e mail me.

>> thank you very much thank you for sharing your comments. next caller >> thank you. i'm carol from [inaudible] it is the 8 and a half year design [inaudible] adopted opposed. it is time to write eulogies for the ecosystems this depend on cool, deep waters. according to the fish and wildlife. numbers in front of him since the 50s when the river saw occurrence of 25,000 salmon each year. 20 years later [inaudible] less than 2,000 fish. in the past 16 years less than 1,000 managed [inaudible] upriver most seasons. and left year, scientists counted 186 [inaudible] in this

river. >> these dwindling salmon disapore on your watch or you will save this population of saul machine if you don't act the echo system will disappear. ask yourself. good stewards stock pile water require in the the 8 and a half year design drought to ensure against a 1 in 70,000 year drought? are you willing to sacrifice the fish of the over low comfortabletive approach? how many californians can continue to thrive in the ecosystems that sustain us [inaudible]. i urge to you [inaudible] designs by a year and more hopefully 2 years and make it a priority to preserve the river ecosystem for california's generations to come as well as the creatures that tloif in the

waters. >> thank you very much. thank you for sharing your comments. next caller? 2 minutes. >> hi. i'm jan doormachine i'm executive director upon friends of the river you wanted to facility up on comments a couple weeks ago about the design drought. and just reemphasize the importance of maintaining the river as a healthy ecosystem. healthy rivers would be more and more important, more critical to support the resilience that we all need the salmon and the humans to with stands the weather, drought and fires we know are coming over the coming decade. so, again, we encourage the commission to revisit the assumptions around the design drought and factor in the

impacts of climate change. new predictive science that are available to incorporate the functions about climate change. impacts of in stream flow requirements adopted by the state water board through the bay delta quality control plans and impacts of demand sensitivity. we know demand is going to need to change and everybody is going to be using less water. so, we would like to encourage the commission to remain dill gent on this topic and do everything you possible low can to maintain the river as a healthy watershed. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. >> good afternoon i'm marchy butterwic a san francisco

resident for over 30 years. the past couple years i attended several commission meetings public workshops regarding flows on the river. i remain dopely concerned about the state of the river min low to flow release. last year's count of salmon was an alarmingly low 186. this extreme definiting deathidation is unacceptable. and should be a huge wake up call for the commission. i urge the commission to drop the lawsuit against the state water board delta plant and work with the state to ensure flows in the river are consistent with the in stream flow adopted by the state. measureers needed provide spring flows high to get water on flood plains, provide flows to the

midwragz inauguration of fish and maintain water temperatures low enough to support a cold water fishery the nonflow measures in the green light in the absense of sufficient fles will not work. the commission water management centers relies on a conservative 8.5 year design drought. modify it to be valid. today the commission has been unresponsive to newellous requests for information from a concerned public. we care about the environment. we look to the commission to be responsible stewards ever river by increasing flows in the river. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. next caller. 2 minutes.

>> good afternoon. i'm martin. and i would urge the sfpuc commission to push sfpuc staff to respond to requests for information from the public. after tw years and 7 workshops sfpuc shoes a lack of honesty when addressing public concerns about the river flow and water storage of upon given the desideline in salmon first -- we need to answer the following. first the spawning season will be upon us and what will the sfpuc what will they do to assure we don't have another disasterous season.

sfpuc has responsibility to address inflated water demand projections coupled with comfortablive design drought in i meaningful way. saying the worry and lose sleep when the residence virus get low does in the cut temperature between the storage and water rights most years sfpuc is approximate suspicioned to like more water in the river. thank you.

next caller >> this is peter, policy director for the river trust. i have been sensing excitement at the sfpuc there will be a new river voluntary agreement. we think this is terrible. tell delay real improvements for a long time and destined to fail. 2 years ago there was a presentation that was based on information provided by the sfpuc if you feel misleading information. we respondeded with a 15 page letter and the response we got back was basically, the issueers over our heads we will send it to the sfpuc to responded. they never did. and they don't responded to a lot of things. we need a commission that will encourage transparency.

this it is eye time do things better. beginning of year i felt the request for rationing information how the determined and i was told, no that is attorney/client privilegive took to the sunshine ordinance task force they thought it was ridiculous. but this is just a problem that lasted for years special nothing gets done i help we can have a new direction. thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. you have 2 minutes to comment. >> hello. okay. thank you. i'm a resident, this is julian

frezel. and i wanted san joaquin ecosystem protected. it has been heart break to watch the the river decline the folks who could have helped stop the decline including the sfpuc, do not act. you have again begun negotiations for a volunteer agreement with modesto thetur look irrigation district the state for the river. the first volunteer agreement did not work the fish are dieing and ecosystem is collapsing. hahas the sfpuc done to prevent another season for the salmon this fall? why should any of us believe in the sfpuc as an honest broker at this point? i attended the august design

drought workshop. there was excellent scientific data introduced by the river trust. and, groups. your staff repeated the same tired argument for the design drought without scientific back. sfpuc has not acknowledged the good work done in the long-term work ltva. . study costs the taxpayers 743 thousand dollars. again, what are you doing to prevent the collapse of the river? ecosystem, thank you. worn more call are joined the queue. >> hello you have 2 minutes.

>> this is mark gonzalez. i have attended many of the meetings and the discussions about the river. and i think you have to recognize that the long run you should focus on including the health of the river with any of your plans. now it seems like your plan is the reservoirs. thank you. additional caller joined the queue. >> you have 2 minutes. >> yes. i'm [inaudible] approximate i'm the water user and taxpayer in the bay area. i spent 40 years back packing in the sierras in the upper regions of the watershed in san francisco bay and delta. the state water board has 2

requirements they are interrelated in an important ways. one is to protect the bay and delta and the other >> reporter: is to supply adequate water to communities. the sfpuc lawsuit against the state water board endangers the health of the bay and delta endangering the health of the delta will endanger adequate water supply to communities now and the future. it is best the sfpuc reconsiders the lawsuit and drop it. thanks. there are no more callers in the queue. >> general public comment is closed. >> thank you. the next is communications. commissioners do you have questions or comments about the communication that was provided

to you? public comment. >> member who is wish to comment on item 6, communications press star 3 to speak. is there anyone who wishes to comment on item 6? do we have callers in the queue. >> there are no callers at this time. >> thank you, public comment on 6 is closed. >> thank you. commissioner ajami employmented say i appreciate all the communications but especially the one on water pipeline assessment. and that was an informative document i appreciate it. again p all of them are useful and quite informative this i was looking forward to, thank you. >> thank you.

>> further comments. next >> item 7. retirement recognitions of sfpuc employees their service. >> thank you. commissioners honored recognize 5 outstanding individuals who have retired. >> served for more than 25 years. first is sarah blain. recognizing her 26 years of service retire in the july as an engineer for the infrastructure bureau. and sfpuc thanks sarah and show gratitude for her outstanding service. sarah blain served a dedicated engineer for san francisco working to provide safe drinking

water for the people of san francisco and the bay area and sarah passionately involved with the ifpde local 21 fighting for rights of work and sarah advocates for women in the work place and sarah universal loved by ler colleagues. sarah served the resident engineer for you construction of the alameda creek watershed center the alameda creek watershed and history of the recommend ram and the valley july 1 of dwoo sarah retired after 26 years to the sfpuc and the city of san francisco now resolved this commission offers highest commendations to sarah blain on the celebration of her retirement as an engineer for san francisco and the san

francisco sfpuc commission. >> congratulations sarah. i'd like to ask james of our infrastructure bureau to say a few words. >> thank you. good afternoon. we are here to recognize the career of sarah blain. with us in the audience now. i'm james had the privilege of being or supervisor for 6 years. sarah served the city since 1990 hired az a junior mechanical engineer with public works. throughout her career worked on the design or construction ever dozens of water and wastewater projects. last assignment the residents engineer of the alameda creek watershed center. a beautiful center that will

educate the public about the water system. the national resources in the watershed and the history of the tribe. one of the of first women engineers hired by the city, she fought for equality in the work place. member of local 21 fought for worker's rights. the last few years her leadership was apparent. during the on set of the covid-19 pandemic when the workforce was staying home, sfpuc construction projects continued on. this was an anxious time for her construction management team who showed up to work every day. sarah's voice to management that ensured her staff was protected. sarah is truly irreplaceable. not only for her dedication and

work ethic but alls for her positivity. known to arrive at work singing choir hymns. acts like this created know uplifting work environment that was valuable in the high stress world of construction management. we'll miss sarah and there will be an irreplaceable void left. we are happy for her and she earned her retirement and time to spend for herself and focus on other family now. we would like to say, thank you for all that she has done for the city and sfpuc for service and congratulations on her retirement. thank you. [applause]. thank you, james and sailor a love to invite you up to say or sing a few words if you like.

>> thanks i'm honor third degree is very nice i appreciate temperature i love having the glorious robin here taking de feo sxoes it was nice to meet you when you saw us. i was grateful for that visit it made a difference to us you knew we were out there workingor tails off. thanks and andy i don't know if you remember 100 million years ago when i was a part of a discrimination action we had multiple meetings nice to see you again. thanks! >> thank you. sarah. [applause]. >> second we have leonid

vaynshteyn. so i'd like to recognize 11 whoa retire in the april after working for 26 years in maintenance planning at the wastewater treatment plant we want to show gast tude. leonid vaynshteyn tireless commitment that stroifs to improve lives of san francisco residentses and where as leonid worked to provide train to planners and ideas for improvement of business for planning and scheduling procedures for the maintenance planning. and lenny an active supporter of the sewer system improve am program of san francisco and helped create effective communications with maintenance planning team and engineering team to seamlessly transition information in the computerized maintenance management system at the waste enterprise and after

26 years of service lenny retire from the san francisco sfpuc wastewater treatment plant now be it resolved this commission offers the highest commendations to leno a celebration of his requirement and honors accomplishments a maintenance plan and this commission expresses appreciation and graft tooud taoist on contributions to the sfpuc and further resolve third degree commission wishes lenny a long and prosperous retirement of congratulations. [applause]. please. let's have you say a few words. >> thank you very much for being recognized. the years passed very fast. i started more than 32 years

ago. that was 2 nights before the big one the earthquake. that was the night shift. there was something to learn about this. and -- back be then everybody who was running the plant in operations so everybody who was rung the plant that night got recognized by the mayor. recognition. and awards [inaudible] work nothing operation and maintenance and planning was my last 12 years. now on the career. thank you very much. sorry about my manager was not able to make it i'd like to see him and my supervisor. i thank everybody and my

coworkers. appreciate, thank you. [applause] >> third colin reilly retired as a truck driver for the distribution division. and the sfpuc wishes to thank him or her and show gratitude for outstanding service. where as on april 1988 colin reilly began with the sfpuc. city distribution division as a truck driver and colin dedication and commitment to safety operating types of trucks in close proximity to others. and colin responded to numerous emergencies during weather, heavy traffic all hours throughout his career. and colin's positive attitude, respect and trust for others honesty and dem pennedability

provided a work ethic within his team and january 1 of 22, after 33 years of service to the city and county of san francisco. colin retired from the sfpuc now be it resolved this commission expresses sincere appreciation and grad tude to colin reilly and wishes him a long, happy and prosper us retirement. >> colsin not with us bill from ccd is here to say a few words. good afternoon. commissioners i'm division manager of the city distribution division. known as cv d. >> on behalf of colin and family thank you for recognizing his service for san francisco. cdd never closes doors we are

that place that is open 24/7, 365. always count on employees like colin to answer the call 3 a.m. in the rain or 3 p.m. on a sunday afternoon on a sunny sunday afternoon. in the middle of a 49 are game to accomplish his mission colin was this employee. colin cannot westbound us had he been here he would have shared stories of the crazy things you see in 33 years working for the city. once again. on behalf of colin, his family we thank you. >> thank you. >> [applause]. >> 2 other folks that were not able to join us i'd like to recognize the first is petronila torres. retire in the april a building manager for the customer service

bureau and the sfpuc thank her and show gratitude for her service. on november 16 of 2 petronila torres began with the controller's office in 88 joined sf water department commercial division now known as the puc customer service water services clerk. asendsed senior water services clerk. commercial division in 20007 and as a customer service billing and auditing manager in 2008. and customer service building manager pat was responsible for water billing the high consumption unit. flow factor appeals and the low income assistance program. during manager of billing and auditing she was a contributor to the water and wastewater billing system impelement in the

2008. payment in the 2012 transition for meter reading to automated and made contributions to system upgraded and program implementation 32 out service. attention to detail criminalities to successful impelementation and running of daily operations. and as a manager pet was an exceptional lead and teach player formed duties and responsibilities with efficiency of a strong work ethic always displaying a positive attitude and respected by her staff and peers pet produced high quality work with admirable dedication. on march 30 of twoochlt retired from the sfpuc after 33 years of service with 37 years to the city of san francisco. now therefore, this commission excesses appreciation and

gratitude to pet on her contributions to the sfpuc and this this commission wishes pet torres a long retirement. [applause]. and finally -- we have very well via sarmiento. like to recognize very well via a customer contact center manager for customer service and the sfpuc wishes to thank joan and show gratitude for her outstanding service >> where as -- virginia sarmiento, began with the san francisco water department. now the pu c commission as a water services clerk on october 15 of 90. served supervisor water service clerk in 2000.

commercial assistant supervisor in 03. customer service and billing manager in 2008. a customer service collection's manager very well via responsible for the new service installation billing and collection of water and sewer and customer service operations. she served in interim manager for new service installations, manager for collections and leans in cache'iering and the customer contact central manager. and during her tenure as a manager, very well via assist in the leading the interactive voice response implementation project from scripting. testing, staff training throughout successful launch. she was a core team member during the conversion of the customer service billing system from water and sewer system to the current customer care and billing which was implement in the 2009 and her capacity as a

manage. an exceptional leader performed duties and responsibilities if he felt and efficient low possessing a strong work ethic a positive attitude and liked and respected pie staff and pierce and produced high quality work with dedication and on june 30 of 22, virginia retired from the sfpuc after 31 years of service. now therefore it be resolved this commission expresses the sincere appreciation and gratitude to virginia for contributions to the sfpuc and further resolve third degree commission wishes very well via sarmiento a long retirement. congratulations. the folks here we love to have you come up and we will take a picture.

do we actually do we give do it. iel. comments first. pictures last. commissioner maxwell. i will go after you. no audio. >> you know i want to thank sarah for not looking at your situation but trying to make it better for the people thereupon and to come. that is going beyond. thank you for that. and lenny, i know i was a worker upon behind the scenes and i know often you all made it work. the tools were not there. it had not been done but created and thought about hayou did. thank you for that and thank your family. because it takes a family day in and day out. i want to thank your family as well. and then colin.

you know, you all took on more responsibility the longer you staid. normally people say i'm sick of had. no, you all took on more responsibility. colin, virginia, petronila all of you took on more responsibility and you made a difference for all of us. it was not just about you it was for the whole. gaerng thank you for your work and your heart and your compassion and caring for our city. thank you. [applause]. commissioner. >> you put it beautifully p. i'm not sure if i can duplicate that. thank you for your service. i do appreciate all the hard work that has been put in keeping this system running. people forget what it takes to run a water system or wastewater

system or energy system. there are so many people unsung heros who we don't see or interact with alling the time. people don't realize. thank you so much for making everything happen and thank you for your hard works. i want to mention that -- we are losing -- 3 women, which is a hard thing to come by in a utility business. i'm hoping that as we are trying utility to be more to include more people from broad backgrounds. diverse backgrounds and racial background. hope we can try to -- i know it is difficult to replace people. hope we can bring in people to

be the next version of and you can fight for the future. and00 create more space for the next generation to come. and -- with that. you are correct. families who are behind. nobody is alone and everybody compromises to make sure they are partners or spotses and parent consist dot work the best their ability and we do appreciate all the families that are sharing their loved once with us. and creating a space to serve the city in different capacity am thank you. >> it struck me how important the work is that we do every day and water and sewer and power may not seem like the most

glamorous work in the world but it it is important. it certainly you get recognition for this when it does not work. the fact is that it matters to the people we serve and to our communicates. and our economy. it matters to the environment. you are of the people who make it happen. i think it it is important to recognize the contributions you made. and the contributions that is to all the people we serve am thank you very much for the commission as well as all the people we serve. let's take a picture.

let's open up to public comment then. why members who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 7 the retirement recognition for staff press star 3 to speak.

madam secretary we have somebody in person >> one in a moment, brad. have a public speaker in room. i'm a san francisco public health nurse for 47 years i have the experience i'm the husband of sarah blain. the past couple years with covid and had the fires and the smoke that is -- has been in the bay area this sarah can her colleagues they work tireless

low to do this job i could not imagine doing. i was concerned every day about when they were doing and sarah would brush off my occurrence like we gotta get this job done. i didn't understand i still don't i'm impressd and grateful that the sfpuc is recognizing my wife am thank you. [applause] no more callers speakers in room. do we have callers with hands raised. >> well is one call are in the queue. >> hello caller i opened your line have you 2 minutes. >> i'm [inaudible] san francisco, i would like to thank all of you'll who got a

commendation. i have visited the treatment plantses over upon 150 times and have fondz memories of bob harris and -- delores. and -- kudos to all ofual e approximately to sarah. . thank you very much will public upon comment on item 7 is closed. >> item 8 is recognition of moran for service to the sudden fran sfpuc. >> thank you.

madam secretary. commissioners this is a bittersweet moment in that we're all happy to celebrate moran and his contribution to this agency. over nearly 50 years of service. but that it come at the end of his nearly 13 year tenure as a member of this commission. and i know i speak for everybody that is a member of the sfpuc family to say that moran is a rock of stability at the puc. whether he was an employee the general manager, a commissioner or the commission president. everybody has relied on andy's expertise. and knowledge and history and i don't think that there is anybody here at the puc who offers a wealth of knowledge as anldzy moran and i will say i

had the opportunity ton andy in a couple of ways first as the city attorney. where we did not always agree. now in my 11 months as your general manager. and i can only say having fwhn this role mou. i have such an appreciation for his expertise and knowledge for his perspective on thaefrg falls under the per vow of this agency. and the universal respect that andy enjoys is something i don't think any other person affiliate with the puc has. the fact that you have our former control and former gm red to sit in public comment tells you all you need ton about the respect that folks have for andy moran. and i can tell you for me the

best part of my 11 months here has been our phone calls we had either in preparation for these meetings or other meetings i found anldzy to be a great council counselor and a gentlemen. i can think of no greater compliment to give anybody involved in public service to be a gentlemen and conduct yourself with the utmost professionalism. not always easy to do. but you do it in i courteous way with a tremendous amount of respect. even for those that you might disagree with. i will miss having you as a member of this commission i know that you are always there with the best interest of this agency and this commission in your heart and head. why so with that, resolution is

andy moran an i conthat is an under statement of the sfpuc. 5 decades a project manager in 1980. general manager for finance question to 88. general manager of hetch hetchy water and power 88 to 93. leading the sfpuc as general manager from 93-2000 and serving as a sfpuc commissioner 09 to 22. and where as began the career with sfpuc commission under mayor feinstein and conditioned to be a shepherd of the water system through 8 different san front mayors. and his unparalleled knowledge of urban water needs and agricultural water use he was invaluable who worked bring everyone together on important water issues. in his years of the sfpuc and

founding member of the california urban water agencies he was instrumental in fostering cooperation among bay area water agencies and elevating the puc to a position of national utility leadership and outstanding contributions to the agency are too many to list among them his work to steer the region through the worse draught from 87 through 92. and did so with grace and skill. it was i challenging time and the drought was severe. his leadership reduced the affect on residence cents and the economy. used that drought experience to institutionalize air water conversation program that conditioned for 30 yours can'ting a per inship with communities and creating the most effective drought fighting tool and services are exceeded by talent as a photographer and tremendous love for his family.

now resolve third degree commission expresses the deepest appreciation and gratitude to moran for significant contributions and commitment to the sfpuc and wishes him the best in the years to come. mruz [applause] birch have this resolution but before that -- i need the best part of this is that before we hear from commissioners you get something else. you get a water meter! which -- i understand is a very prized gift upon and i have absolutely no doubt you will have this displayed in the champion of san francisco water, power and sewer systems and we were not going to miss this. so. >> [applause] upon

>> the floor is yours. commissioners. >> i will go first. i am -- i did not know abldzy that much beyond his name and reputation before i joined the commission. but in the past year and a half i come ton him as a calm, thoughtful and humble person always interested in listening and hearing your perspective and always engaging i think humility stay its is easy for something to listen to someone else to have an about. while have you dealt up with's and down in an institution and

you short of think, i have finished and -- like i think you are also thoughtful and you never i appreciate how good you are in hearing -- and engaging in the conversations without necessarily having any a baptist arrogance in the fact i have been arounded for too long and seen all of it. i appreciate this. i think that is a corner stone of leadership. how somebody can become a real leader over time. important part is to be a listener. i'm gave and all the knowledge you brought in to the commission. i always appreciated your great

comments on every comment or every issue we had contentious or not. easy or hard. will really appreciated that. and i very much appreciated your diligence in approaching different issues -- and always being bringing a fresh perspective as well to the comments and conversations your open tons engage the members of the public and stake holders. i know you are required some of those work shops we had. and always trying to listen what other commissioners think. engage them with the process and being inclusive. i'm not sure if there are i'm sure there are many other adjectives i can use here to

describe you. i will miss having you here. i hope you keep us in minds and call us and let us know when you think or your perspective limp is nothing more be available than having a fwloendz cares and has something to share. and i personally i'm -- always looking forward to hearing your perspective. may beil call about you siems. again. grateful to be a commissioner with and you combrafl i could work and serve with you. thank you for your service. me and my family benefit friday things have you done. and -- i'm grateful for that. and -- i look forward to -- staying in touch and you know

learning from you. there were things that came up you gave me confidence this we could get through this. and not so much because you have been there before but because of the way you approached things. your approach was solid i remember calling you and saying. you know. asms is what they would say.

and you calmed me down and i'm going to meet.

we'll miss you and done so much you given your heart and soul to the city and the family and the children have grownup a part of this and so thank you so much and i am going to call you. i will let you know now. that i will call and i expect you to answer. so thank you for everything you have done. and everything that you continue to do. thank you. >> thank you. that's all nice i did not know you needed confidence. and talk about family growing up in this thing. my oldest water went to school

after the 87 and 93 drought. one thing i had to counsel her on the people in new york expect you will flush. etch part of the family is involved. i was thinking about the comments i would like to make and occurred to mow that after 33 years if i have not tuesday. it does not need to be said. i will limit it to one upon thing. i have been fortunate to work with the puc on the work we do. and over a period of 33 years in a variety of capacities i have been ail to do that with people of integrity competence

intelligence. dedication. and it just not get better than that. and for this, incredible privilege i am very thankful and -- will continue to be. i will take the phone call. no question about it. and i doment to thank all the -- there have been many people that have been part of this organization over that time. i am -- really believe that -- highly some of us are privileged to provide leadership work gets done boy others and that are -- the really important people that need to be honored and we had a chance to do that with several folks today. and we need to keep this in mind what we do is important. and it is important to the economy and

important to the environment. and important to our communities and the people this we serve this goes for what we do but the way in which we do it and how we athlete people. i will say, thank you. and turn is back over to the secretary. she can open for public comment we should have strict time limits on. let's do public comment and then photo. okay. memberses who wish to make 2 minutes of public comment on item 8 police press star 3 to speak. do we have members present? mr. herrington. >> and general manager, i wanted

to give thanks to anldzy for the work he has done. i have been following andy for 40 years. back in 84 head the bureau of finance he hired me and moveod to be the head of hempy i was in acounselling for bureau of finance director. he went on to be gm i did as well and in 2 zb zsh are are are zb be answer you have to have expertise in water or power systems or pu c management. you ghalg and come up with andy's picture he had all of that. and so it was grit this he agreed to be on the commission when we asked him to do it and the only person in that has been in seat 4. for this commission. and it has been up's and downs.

the river issues and so many things and dhfrjs. you have all said andy is a stable, kind influence in discussions and the work that i could not let the day go without thanking you. and the puc and we see each other. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. president moran and general manager. congratulations. i'm happy for you. i received the news that you were leaving the commission with sadness in my heart. i spent my time with you the last 22 years in various roles you had. we've worked together very well. you have always challenged me and you always shown me i think all the characteristic we heard today. and you know your leadership

cape at. integrity. thoughtfulness. and -- all of these things together your intelligence together have made you the public servant you are in the best sense. i think that is important for all of us to remember as we think about what public service really means. it means as we heard talking about today. you know thinking outside of yourself and putting the community first. the w we do is not for our own selves the community we live in that's what you have represented and shown to me. and i speak on behalf of the board the 26 water supplyers residential customers all of them have so much to thank you for that leadership and lifetime of public service. thank you enjoy yourself i can't wait to hear about your next adventures.

you will be missed. mr. moran on behalf of san francisco i like to thank you for your service. you know thatted i have been attending this meetings for a long time. you are [inaudible] [inaudible] enjoyed having many conversations. i was surpriseed see ed herring ton so -- [inaudible] served sfpuc [inaudible] with the best

your ability. [inaudible] i had [inaudible] [muffled]. i always had a word with you. [inaudible] you are a good leader. good leaders [inaudible] show the way and go the way. god bless and you your family. thank you for sharing your comments next speaker, please >> thank you this is peter with the river trust. i'm going to miss commissioner moran. and it is hard to imagine the sfpuc without him. when you been it next month the

5 commissioners will have fewer years on the commission than andy did during his tenure that it is not include his time as anning employee. and andy and i have not always agreed on policy direction but he always made himself available for conversations and i have always felt he was an honest person who was looking for glounld. i will miss that. so -- andy i wish you well with your retirement. i gus deserve it by now but look forward to keep nothing touch and may call you for advise. thank you for your tremendous service. thank you for sharing your comments. there are no more callers in the queue. item 8 is closed.

photos. i have to say before we go. we had a real dream commission with 2gm's both them knowing everything about it. they could not nobody could full rugs over our eye, these guys knew. coming back as a commissioner is something you don't have to do but you took it seriously. thank you. ed and thank you andy so much. [applause] no audio chlt chlt

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>> next item. please. >> next is item 9 the bay area conversation agency update. >> good afternoon am nicole, good to see you again. >> so during the last meeting, there was much discussion about water use and the current use reductions seen by water customers. there was a lot of questions about the long-term water use trends and the customer's ability to increase the water use reductions. i don't have all the answers today i wanted present different data that may inform our

discussions moving forward on this topic. >> so this is a graph i have comboen shown it toy provides total water use and population. guess back to 75-76. and goes out to fiscal 2021 the most recentanual suri have. the head line says today uses 24% less water compared to the peek water use in fiscal 86/87 despite 32% population increase. this increase in f is a result of several things. revving ligzs. like the plumbing code. state requirements. 20 boy 2020. local agency and customer investment in water conversation. real financial dollars put to water conversation in the

region. this level efficiency is the result of several extended droughts. economic downturns and also the pandemic. what you will so on the graph the droughts shown with the #line water demand reduce in the response and there was a slow rebound after. if i had fiscal 21-22 and 22-23 did thea you would see there as well given our drought conscience. after i walked away from the commission last meeting as i looked with fresh eyes, assessmented me what i heard others staying, are we the last 10 years really a single drought period with wet spots in the middle. as opposed a series of 3 droughts how we have been think burglar it. and if this statute case, does that change how we are dealing with it? or does it change what more we need to do to responded top

continuing drought conditions? i got data to dive in this a bit that was in roej nal level this is average residential per that data. relying on the same data set shoes gross and residential on the bottom line. again the drought years are shown with hash marks in 96 average residential decreased boy 37%. as a points, during the rent drought the average residential use got down to 56 gallons per dame thez numbers were below we thought was achievable called us to question how low do we go and per capita rebounded since that drought period it is lower. this it is manage we have to

examine we consider how to reduce it further. in addition to looking at the questio employed whiching sense stiffity for member agencies to inform our planning i look forward to bringing you the results the project is on schedule and i will provide the end of this year. the over all water use bauchtz diversity.

for each agency a circle size associated with the purfalse chass and the colors associated with this per that use for that agency. for example. on the far upper right residential water use 48 and 65 gallons per capita per day. comper se that to water hills. purchased 1.99ngd in this same year and residential water use greater than 75 per day. it is showing the increase between them. and as i look at the graph i see

a few things. no agency in thissier that had a use less. no one in the bottom category. 9 agencies and that middle category and there were 12 this used more than 75 gallons per day. and the same time san francisco retail customers used entire. they were not in the bottom category pulled them up buffer locked at this number. that was interesting. then how does this snapshot compare to most recent data. so this is fiscal 2021. i will note this in the e mail packet i sent there was a typo in the head line. so -- but as a reminder the same analysis, new data the region

start in the twenty 21 with very low water demand. coming out of that draught period and had economics going on with the pandemic. and but despite the poor run off snow pack the commission did not ask for refductions in 2021. halfway throughout year in january upon. and 11% starting january 22. you will see is a couple things over all residents gone down everything is shifted. the agent is down to 66. it is 7% les thap the year before. there are 9 agencies in that lowest category. that was the thing that storied to stand out to middle east. we started to wait that bottom category. and -- so -- that was the thing.

shifting to my last set of graphs. this diversity amongst the agency in size and use trying to figure this out this is a graph that it is in our annual survey for fiscal vessel-13 and showing a different way to look at it showing residential consumption compared to the cumulative percent of population at that level or less. looking at 12-13 first for thissier. we see 31% of the population water customers used less than 70s gallons per person a day ump see that data pin on that far right side this red dot is at. that perchel line citizen 70 gallon per day. by comparing if you look on the left side of the chart you see 95% of service area used 99 gallons per day or less.

the shift down in the lower number when does this do. how much population remains at that high use. now lookinga the that same 70 gallons per day value, 90% of the water customers use less than 70 gallons. and that you see with the new red dot on the left. not a lot of answers per se but in a different way to look at it we talk about how do we achieve that level and what will it take? right? what will it take? you have seen this grap before going overnight last couple of year this is is a differents

data set relying on monthly data water agencies required to mitt to the state board and shows on a calendar year we got that summer hump in the middle and see that over all in calendar year 22 the use is below the top line. it is below 2021 but not as low as 2015, which was that was when the state step in the significant cantz low. we had a significant massive out reach. and so july of 22 use is 14% low are than 2019, which is great. however, we know that summertime historically has been the greatest opportunity for customers to save water. that more will be needed reach the target.

we are working with our agencies to achieve the savings and figure out what the next step is. like you they have adopted water management plan and locked at this down to the granular level in their service yours. they are committed to this. customers are responding and we are showing increased savings july and we will see the same in august and public low in september but heard ton we will achieve that target. and the question is what do we do more. for next year if we need to do that. we will work with number agencies. i'm in discussionos this already. and i identifying the next steps as we should in anticipation of another dry year. i wish could say i had answers. but i thought found this

analysis helpful. and i wanted share it. commissioner ajamy. >> very informative. i have a few questions so i think last year we had a conversation about trying to create a data set for water reuse and -- activities happening. especially on a smaller scale to see who is installing what. and what size are we talking about. how much reuse is happening and and obviously it is important to note that on a big are scale approximate small are skachl you upon wonder if there san update have you looked at that and just

i know you know why i'm looking for that but for people to realize obviously that the small are scale reuse can impact your baseline and that means that some of the changes change demand. just -- i don't have a set of that. that is the difficult thing sometimes to tease out again it can when you go between water districts in cities and where things get permitted. we are engaging in an active conversation with agencies and let me get become to you with that, >> sure. >> thank you. >> to let you know people have reached out to me who live in the peninsula and asked fiwant to install a gray water system where do i go? i don't know. you might have heard you should

call nicole. though that effort we realized there is a mixed bag of what is done. not a lot and so one of the tasks we start side working with the city county association of gentlemans for san ma te'o that seemed to be the whole. and they have a proposal they are doing a pilot in the county -- the last i heard we were talking about was trying to

go in a couple homes and test what are the issues that they run into. and i know gray water use done elsewhere for when you say we look at the differences in the agencies we find a well set up pilot is helpful in identifying how does the program work if we roll that out. we are work to try to find funding for that. but it is an active conversation. because that is one of the your people think, talk about where is the next what are we going to do? that's one. i had that conversation with my husband. >> and want to take advantage of you know early adopters interested and like to install the systems. and test the permitting press and what it takes and the service providers in that who can provide such a transition. >> yea yoochlt it is a

challenge. a challenging program we had discussions with valley water district and had a program for a long time. they will say it is hard to get people to do it. even somebody wants to. it is a different version of your you know changing your hundred out. there are steps and takes commitment from a customer to want to do it. >> i want to if we have a few more draughts there will be more parties liningum. draughts are -- creating a bit of an opportunity for manage like that and a bit of more interest in the customers. why we call it never waste a good crisis. take advantage of it. we are dealing with it. >> and one other comment i have, i don't know how much this conversation is happening but and obviously the land use you know -- and a lot of the water utilities don't have authorities. i wonder if there is an

opportunity to think about the net zero water development for the new developments happening. a lot of -- you know -- development is seen. for different housing. or commercial buildings. that is an opportunity to look into as -- some of those are popping up. >> great. i think that is part when you look at that between 2012 and 21. that is part of what is driving things down. men agencies have those on the new development. one of her agencies that have the higher use is actively and water district working with the city.

it is a lot of water. those are active conversations as we look to the future. commissioner maxwell >> thank you for your report it was helpful. you mentioned -- may be we are always in a drought with wet years. and i think when you said that i thought, wow. you know that is may be another way to look at this and another way we can talk to people about it. that may be from now on this is what it will be. and -- that would -- change the conversation. you mentioned that -- i think you know we are low but a lower year 2015? >> yea. the governor step in the and imposed a state wide mandate and

numbers. >> and you said massive out reach. the answer are there and buried how we look at thing and getting people to look different row and miscellaneousive out reach can be something we could do. we worked with you on out reach when we know or what we have seen so far is a good example that was state wide. you could not turn around without seeing. we joke when we see the signs. water use will go down. it happened every time. you can see it. that is powerful and we have all continued to urge the fwoven to step in he has the loudest message shifting back to us. we can do that. and i thank you

is more that we will have to do next winter if wore in the same situation. no doubt. >> thank you. and next item. please. >> public comment. >> members who wish to comment on item 9 press star 3 to speak. do we have members present who wish to comment on item 9? do we have callers with hands raised. >> there are 2 callers. you have 2 minutes.

i want to say is there as far as i know [inaudible] came in to the system in 1974. and i [inaudible] hundreds of times. you know -- pinpoint some of the, that come from from time to time. commissioners i often say who will speak for the solmon. and today you heard a number of -- people who -- during public comment folk about the

river. we must learn to do a need's assess am. why was the [inaudible] and there was a lot of hosz tillity and agreements with the people the irrigation. and we had to there is -- water for a limits amount of people. how are we going to treat [inaudible]. game in 1974. we don't mention that. i know there was a group -- the

[inaudible]. [inaudible]. thank you. time is expired. thank you this is peter calling -- a few comments. mentioned reasons why we sneen decline in per capita demand. i think there is a bigger reason which is the price of water. after the [inaudible] approved the price tripled. there is an incentive to use water efficiently and take advantage of rebates and i think it would behoove the commission to have an agenda item looking at the debt service for the fifth we are far from paying that off and costs and dent

service for the sewer system program. those will trigger. second point is following the urban water management plan demand would be lower. but staff referred to as an official document now we have a 2022 plan and at your last meeting they said. we increase the the demand s and deficit we think they will purchase more water from us. if the water management plan has more dire predictions you use those. not there. last point is a question what if

we have another dry year. think about that. what if it is dry like the last year and we have the aim amount of water we started with. we saw 4 years in water and storage should we freak out. what if it is an average year. remember in 2016. year 5 of that drought and this -- time is expires. there are no more callers in the queue. >> public comment on item 9 is closed. >> thank you. next item. >> item 10 report of the general manager. why thank you. madam secretary. a is drought commission update and ellen will be presenting.

good afternoon i'm here on behalf steve rich who is out today. it is a privilege commissioner moran to present on your last day. steve loss my gain i know hoe is disappointed he is not here today. >> slides, please >> okay. focusing on reservoir storage. this is slide where water bank is today. this time water pafrng is nearly full this will come in play as we think about what we need to do next year if the year is dry. >> on the next slide we are looking at conscience. this picture has not changed throughout the year. as i have routinely pointed out

the state is focused on those represent project. as does [inaudible] also associate with the federal project. and capacity of the residence virus and ability to refill is driving decisions around what needs to happen with mandates cross the state. the next shows the snapshot and we see that the -- exceptional draught that darker purple has been growing. moving on to the presiptation. just to note this was september 18th when we share third degree presentation with you and in the middle of storms we received. in september we had 6, 10th of

an inch it increaseed 1 phenotype 43 inches. we had a september. and locally we were a bit less than half in september during in the rainstorms we ended up over. went 58 inches. those were important storms. again this forecast is over behind us now we got an additional amount of rain during the 2 weeks and what the current forecast is show thanksgiving week is pretty die but supposed to get wet in northern california we'll see what happens there. cans kwens of the wet weather we went from an annual average of 210 million gallons per day, 189 million gallons per day.

not shown on this plot it is the report that was plussed after the slides. i wanted to let you know that when we do seat wet weather we see significant response from customers. and and um --mented highlight the partnership that we are still in which is san francisco giant's next week the last week we do it. of this partnership was new and different. a different way to reach the users. and reminds them of water supply situations. we had the opportunity to have public service announce am twine home games. tv and radio spots.

in the broadcasts there was water saving message. 6 ballpark activations mean we were having one on one fan engage am. there was 6 opportunity for us to put in pop up's. within the wuk ways of giants we could engage with fans and our staff members did it said it was a lot of fun and great way to engage. ballpark sign acknowledges what it looks lining with the display board. and using the social media platform leveraging the tweeting and retweeting this sending next week and started july 29th and it has been fantastic a new way to approach out reach

>> any questions for ellen. thank you very much. member who is wish to public on 10 athe drought commission update. press star 3. there is one caller in the queue. thank you. peter. a quick question can we get a report on how much water was available to the september storm?

no water was available to the city following the storms. >> thank you. do we have other callers? public comment is closed. >> 10b is retail drought framework over view by ellen but -- good afternoon. i'm fanllow i work in the water resource division. today i'm providing over view of the drought response framework

how we'll allocate water should we need to enact reduction. this stems from the urban water management plan. but applies to our retail customers. work to impmrechlt this is under way including upgrades to our billing system and development of new tools for customer service it assist our customers. we are not sure if we will need to impose retail reduction this is year it is critical to get the billing system and customers ready for resdukzs should this drought worsen and future water shortages. as i mention third degree framework picks up from the plan which was developed part of our 2020 urban water plan process. shortage plan out lines a step

wide retail demand reduction starting with voluntary reductions across all sectors and relying on increasing levels of conversation messages. next, we would voluntary reduction across all sectors except impose reductionos irrigation sector. following impose reductionos residential sector and lastly impose reductionos nonresidential sector includes commercial, industrial and municipal customers. irgagsz and rential reduced and follow being residential would be the nun residential sector.

we impose reductions on nonresidential sector left to minimize economic impacts. should the water shortage emergency require further reductions we would cycle back to irrigation sector to increase reductions followed by residential then nonresidential. the framework allocates demand reductions within the 3 sectors i will describe next. we will impose mandatory reductions. allocation method will be the percent reduction from base year reduce 20%. applicable to seasonal out door use and used during the previous drought. the 2015-16 period.

>> following manualed torrey reductions on irrigation if more are needed we will impose reductions to residential sector. the allocation mlgd is per capita and example shown here we'lled allocate 40 gallons per person per day for each house holds. this method was selected because it allocates water to each person. the number of potential appeals depend on the shortage. in the beginning of the shortage at a low level we don't anticipate a lot of appeals as the severity increases the appeals increase. this method remutuals necessity of determining a per capita floor during most droughts. after imposing reductions on irrigation then residential, should more reductions be needed we would impose reductions on

nonresidential customers, commercial, stressful, institutional/municipal customers. the allocation is percent reduction from the base year the same managed applied irrigation sector. an example to use 10% from left year's usage. this method was selected it can be applied various business types. we can apply different percentages based on how essential a service or business is. a business or service thatup holds health and cyst wield not impose as many reduction on that sector. in conclusion the framework informing on going efforts to design an efficient allocation adjustment program to identify exemptions and develop the in

the billing system. under the water shortage plan, staff will come become to the commission for approval before epiacting voluntary or man torrey reductions tied to future water shortages include thanksgiving drought this . concludes my presentation i will be happy to answer questions. >> thank you. commissioner ajami. >> thank you for your presentation. you mentioned near nonresidential water use, you guys will start from all this different parameters you put in place. do you have any [inaudible] bench mark to see how much i don't know like your car wash users. or how much laundry mat. trying to understand what the

users and trying to understand where everybody falls you know the baseline you can come pair them this is difficult to do. my job we worked with trying to do that it is not an easy task but it it is an important task to do. i think if anybody can do it it is us we have the mart meters. it is important. all this data. if you have not done that it would be great to do it. >> second thing i want to say is, i think brought this up during the budget press and a few other times beforement some point we need to look into the coupling rates. we need to look in the this because if these if this trend continues and we have more droughts and people use which we want to see.

right. we don't want to say we are -- financial low going to have an issue if people reduce water use. people realize that no matter how much water you use you pay for the infrastructure, the health and maintenance of the infrastructure we all depends on. the people who provide the service to you that -- you know the pumps and pipes this needs to be run and individuals who are rung models or behind computers. we have fixed costs that everybody pace for. we want to make sure who used more would pay more and who used less pay less this is the volume piece on top of the fixed costment i would like for us to take this on and do it and i was at a meeting reasonable and -- met 2 utilities that have already enables us and

implemented the coupling of their rates and doing it for many years special that is about time for us to consider that. and so those are my 2 comments. >> i will answer about the bench marking. so i don't know if pc lead the studies. we looked at it -- i don't know if julie is here. she might be able to say something about bench americaing we looked into for the sectors that are in san francisco. we will be looking at that more deeply when we think about seth percent reductions for a specific customer type. we might hit more certain businesses more than others based on what we have seen in the bench marking and how much of the demand piece of the pie

they take up. >> and helps us to potentially do more out reach. >> yes. >> that is something we were always doing. >> one last comment. you mentioned for the commercial water users we are looking at them and how compared to left year. i wonder if that is the way to go considering left year was the tail end of the pandemic. not out of it but it it is heard to make thatcology parrison. i wonder if you adjustd that before wondering when your thoughts were >> that's a good point. so -- that was an example i showed cut 40% from last year the 2 are the percent and base year. those are all to be determined based on what draught situation we are in.

and we will probably not use last year's. decoupling sounds fascinating under new business we could have an idea of sample of -- a bill that we have now and what it would electric like if decoupled. men you can ask that under new business i heard you mention it but i don't think it sounds like something would be interesting to look into.

we should look into that. yes. >> ask. >> yes. >> thank you. on slide 5, the last built the necessity of determining per that floor. could you explain that. >> yea. thanks for pointing that bullet. you know there is interest from the xhigsz on how it would be established for the framework, we don't foresee need to set one in the early to mid stages of a drought up to 40 or 50%. we might not encounter this before we would be doing allocation for example the 40 and 40 per person per day the 35 per day that removes the necessity of stake the floor. however if we were to get in a

severe drought we are coming up against health and safety standards and hygiene. then we de feoed to revisit to even meet that minimum standard. we are seeing for the framework and impelementing it we don't see that yet. >> thank you. other questions. thank you. public comment. member when is wish to make public comment on item 10 b. prisz star 3 to speak. do we have members present who wish to provide comment on 10 b. why do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no callers in the queue yoochl public comment on 10b is closed. >> 10 c the financing plan for fiscal 23 and nikolas will be presenting.

thank you, general manager herrera. good afternoon. capitol finance director. since joining the puc in mithis is my first opportunity to present to you. >> this is the firsts of what will be many presentations that each the individual financings we will talk about today. today's presentation is to review the capitol finance being plan for this current fiscal year. this is to give you a snapshot of what to expect that will come forward to the commissioners throughout this year. this is the 7thanual report of the kind. i note that this report come in an extraordinary time. time of great volatility in the bond markets.

a lot of change impact on construction. well is a lot going on. including the activities we are under take to provide low are costs financing throughout federal government. through state funds we will update and revise this presentation this information throughout the year. the numbers today are preliminary and formal presentations made on each financing for your approval. >> puc has a large outstanding debt program. we have near low 7 billion dollars debt know outstanding. you saw in the february financing plan, we expect to issue 6 billion of additional debt over that period.

all activities guided by policies by the commission and it is ref now bonds over seen by the revenue bond oversight committee as well. this is a snapshot. we had activity in water. our largest for outstanding water bonds we shift more to wastewater and have 7 billion dollars of debt and successful with low cost finance width federal and state government. use our commercial paper as a tool in order to manage the interest we have to pay on bonds

and borrow when those costs are needed. and finally as you see here we have very high ratings. based on strengths of organization and in line with charter mandates to maintain strong ratings. our capitol financing team has 3 key tasks. of course we help to montort spending of each of the comprises and figure our commercial paper program and refinance that commercial paper with revenue bonds. and of course we administer the outstanding debt this is paying the debt service on time and managing all the information and promises we made over time. and lastly looking at ways to save money like many of us would

look to refinance our mortgages or credit cards. we are looking at opportunity to refinance this outstanding portfolio. know this puc benefited from a period of extraordinary low interest rates. to date. that is changing significant cantz low this year. you see on the chart here interest rates rise first in the taxable market it moved slowly. but interest rates are rising. t is important it point out to the commission and the public that our most of our outstanding debt is fixed rate debt. so the changes in rate don't affect the rate we pay on that outstanding revenue bond dent. it does affect our ability to

refinance that debt we are monitoring that. it does affect us more immediately on commercial paper program. commercial paper is every noinlt days with reflects rising interest rate in requirement. optimize the lowest costs. to the rate payors. fed just raised interest rates 3 quarters of a percent.

the increase of anticipated. and further increases are expected over the rest of thisical dar year and next year. good new system that most of the market anticipates that rates will begin to come become down later next year. well is unknow essentiality in the world on the other hand inflation and global events like the war in ukraine that brings us to our plan. wore not asking for action today this is a snapshot. first a mrarj [inaudible] invitation from the usepa. herrera will meet with them this month as we engage with them on

the negotiationings for that. and we will then bring back that agreement. early next year. i don't have several srf loans applicationing pending before the state. and we are going to be amending one of those. but of significance we have been evaluating the spending already to date for this fiscal year from enterprises the financing plan in february called for significant debt over each of the 10 years but for this year called for each of the 3 enterprises to be doing debt financing. we have now based on the spends tog date. been able to project forward when this financing will be needed to refinance capacity in

our commercial paper programs. expect that in the third quarter of the fiscal year. early in 2023. we would be coming become for first the wastewater bonds. then the water bonds. and now apores that the need to actually issue power bonds may be pushed in the next fiscal year. we will continue to monitor that and then as i say continuing to work on lower costs alternatives as well. lastly we have 2 credit facilities we need to renew before the end of this fiscal year. lastly. we will continue even though rates have gone up to look at whether there are opportunity to refinance. passage of time creates

refinancing opportunities. with this i'm happy to answer questions. commissioner maxwell y. thank you for your report. >> i k and welcome, again >> what would who is our financial advisors what are that? >> before i joined the puc engaged 5 financial advisary firms. we have under contract and task them with specific transactions. and so -- who are these people. what would a profile of financial advisor team look like? who do they work for? what else do they do? >> each are deeply experienced. they come out of the pool this is organize said throughout controller's office of public upon finance.

and they are names that are probably very familiar to you. each of them is regulated. municipal advisors the new comprehending financial advisor and are do need to be registered with the msrb for that. >> okay. if you like the names. gi like one name. >> mc carly would be first on the list i'm thinking in alphabetical. mont ghoul, derose. -- [inaudible] financial advisors fieldman -- these people are what municipalities use or big ecstasy or -- >> yes >> each of them are -- experienced with agencies throughout the state but many of

them are working with other parts of the city and the financial advisors we have been using the most have deep experience with the puc as well. >> all right. thank you. >> commissioner ajamy. >> thank you. i have a question for you, do you think the change we see in the market or the change in interest rates will impact the financing of our projects? and how would that impact us? >> commissioner, thank you for the question. couple of key points. first clearly, the new interest rate environment will mean that rates are higher than the rates we got used to in the past. fortunately, the tax exempt market is -- heavily department

on supply and demand. and rates have moved more slowly in the tax exempt market than the taxable market. so -- for example. a 75 basis point increase in rates or 3 quarters of percent increase in rates, general low does noted always trans lay to a 3 quarter percent increase in commercial paper based on supply and demand. but clearly -- interest costs will be higher on the new obligations we under take in the future. depending on whether rates continue to go up or they go up and come become down. >> were we looking at mull pull scenarios or having a prediction in going with that. because i assume there are many things that can happen.

for example the worry in ukraine was not on anybody's radar. a year ago. now it is impacting a lot of people. nobody knew pandemic would happen are we looking at decentar >> s or. >> looking at strategies to first opt myself the lowest cost of financing sources. look at different scenarios. i would -- hasten to add that -- there has been a lot of volatility in the marketplace. so even among the experts. the expectations of interest rates have been changing throughout this year. and we have been monitoring those with the financial add sunrisors and again we have specific low engaged one of the firms to help us with an over

all strategy. public comment for item 10c press story 3 to comment on this item. >> do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no callers. >> thank you. public comment on 10c is closed. >> that concludes my report. >> thank you. >> thank you. next item y. item 11 new xhigsz business. >> any new business? commissioner ajamy. may be i'll ask mr. herrera to work with our finance team or

who is involved in the process to look into how if we wanted to rate the coupling how we do it. charge with waste water wor layed the amount of water they use. i believe that is how we do it here as well. but i'm worried as people use less water and go off the grid or partially off grid with on site reuse system how that is impacting our wastewater infrastructure and capacity to operate and maintain.

we should have a discussion on how we are which is the long-term strategy making sure that we operate and maintain wastewater infrastructure and services. on a good financial health. thank you. other new business. public comment. please. >> members who wish to make public comment on 11, new commission business press story 3 to raise your hand to speak. do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are no call are. public comment on item sleven closed. >> thank you. >> item 12 consent calendar. commissioner maxwell.

>> [inaudible] item is this appropriate now >> okay. on consent commissioner maxwell i have a question about delays the way i can ask is to pull item c. item c will be removed. commissioner ajami i upon have to pull item a but i have a question i'm not sure -- we don't need to foul pull to questions. we don't. no, we don't. >> we have -- what our practice has been this is especially with the phone call in's is if

memberments to make ape comment they can do that and that does not take an item off calendar if it needs discussion it needs to be pulled off calendar. >> if have you a comment, >> yes. >> if you have a question we should remove. >> i have a comment. >> go ahead. should i go ahead. >> so, on item 12 a, there is a modification number 4, there is a section that says, we have to change what you are doing to just because the design modification that required customized shore nothing your due to not knowing, trying to read hai highlighted. so we didn't identify the under ground utilities during design

on discovery of those we do modification. i think this goes become to another item we had number of months ago not having the right maps or knowing where utilities are we had to redesign and ended up become an issue. i'm bring thanksgiving up we need to think about how we need to what maps do we have? who has the map for under ground. can we digitize this thing so who does the design has access so wean don't invest a lot of resources to get to this point and need to go back. and revisit the design because we found utility line. i then and there it is a huge under taking i think it is beneficial to the public. it beneficial to the city.

so i'm highlight thanksgiving again because it came up one more time in our items. so that's the comment i had. >> thank you. >> commissioner maxwell. thank you. attorney answered my questions on item c. i guess that she mentioned i was wondering about delays in the contract. she that would some of the delays dependsos yet delay sometimes on the contract or sometimes on us. in this covid, i found there is a monetary cost to feel this and if it is shared? and who share its in we have often seeing delays and then there is a monetary cost on our part. we have to pay more. that was my question how is the

formula and with covid is is that a shared delay? cost? approximate material and the ships in the ocean. i don't know and they are waiting to come. that's how my minds see its. not off loaded and -- >> good afternoon commissioners howard fung. acting wastewater capitol program's director and project manager bureau. steve is out i'm covering for him. in terms of the question regarding who pay for covid impacts. a lot of times we are cost shearing health and safety costs for covid preparations. but in terms of schedules i don't believe we have been paying for delays related covid. so. you know that is what i

understand at least. >> okay. and this one was. it says covid and material delays. deliveries. >> correct. >> it would be a time extension we grant if it it is a delay related to covid for material delays or the like. and this case i think they have been a bit of supply chain issues with covid and sometime its is hard to get contractors back to come back and complete work in terms of doing you know start up the commissioning as we prepare for that. and also coming become to do training that time to come in based on staff availability as well. it is a bit of coordination on both parts. >> all right. >> thank you.

>> thank you. on the consent first do you need to c pulled. no. >> so for the consentical dar. items a, b and c public comment? member who is wish to make public ment on 12 the consent calendar press star 3 to speak. there are no callers. public ment on item 12 is closed. >> a megsz and second. please >> move to approve. >> second. >> roll call yoochl commissioner moran. >> aye >> vice president ajami. >> aye >> commissioner maxwell. >> aye. >> and the consent is adopted. next item. >> item 13, amend section f

water efficient irrigation of the puc commission rules and regulations governing water service to customers to acquire the use of organic mulch in the regulations implementing senates bill 1383. mr. ortiz? >> good afternoon. julia ortiz with water resources division. this is a small procedural update. but i want to provide quick background. the water efficient irrigation rules are detailed guideline the sfpuc over sees and this is per state directive and over seeing requirements for water efficiency for new land scapes over a certain size and modified landscape over a certain size. this is a small updated to update the definition of

existing requirements for the use of mulch to specify an importance for organic mulch to which ensurety sea is in compliance with 1383 that implement a state pollutant reduction law. most of the 3383 is covered under the environment and health code. and administered the d. virment and public health this one mall piece falls under sfpuc jurisdiction. so that is when we are here to amend. i want to note that the state d. water resources is looking at more substantial changes to the state's model water efficient landscaping ordinance and that time we come become to make more changes to our water efficiency irrigation rules and regulations. any questions?

>> i'm glad to see it. >> thank you. seeing no questions. public comment? >> members of the public wish to make remote comment on item 13 press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. there are no calmer in the queue. public comment on item then is closed. >> notion and second. >> i will move. >> second. >> roll call. >> president moran >> >> aye >> vice president ajami >> aye >> commissioner maxwell. >> aye. >> item 13 passes. >> reannounce that item 14 has been removed and will be rescheduled. next is item 15 authorize the general manager mem randledum of agreement with silicon valley

clean water supply and conversation agency cat cal water service mid peninsula and city of san ma te'o a base you of designs report for you san francisco peninsula pure water water for 27 minutes not to exceed 515,000. >> good afternoon, commissioners. upon manager of the alternative water supply program i don't have a presentation and wanted say i'm here to represent the project this is one of the alternative water supply projects approval of this action will allow us to support continued planning for a potable reuse project on the san francisco peninsula purified water project. >> any questions? >> commissioner ajami.

>> thank you for this. i think you and i have had this conversation before. i know where i'm going. the impelementing all this systems still than i are not making huge dent but eventual low they can sort of bring down the baseline in different ways and i'm wondering -- i know you are trying to have this role as providing leadership around thinking around this systems and how they are implementing in different scales. how much progress you are making on that? can we use this as an opportunity to help the study to incorporate a scenar >> that will consider this many percent of residents or commercial buildings nun residential water users would

have and on site we use or a small scale reuse how would that change the size of our plans versus nobody cells doing with temperature i think have you been for us to see a range rather than one single number. >> this study supports the development of potable reuse purified water. as we think about alternative water supplies we can't divorce it from thinking around making sure this we are being efficient and conscious of the water that we do need from the water system. those 2 things are tied together. the i think when we'll do is look at -- what is happening on the demands front what is helping on site water recycling. other measures that we can use to reduce the demand for potable water from the water system and so that is very much part of everything we knowledge about

with the alternative water supply program. however, when we look out in 2045 many of the projects do take 15-20 and more years to build when it come to presidentable reuse, which is new. in california. and around the world. so i think it is something this has to be xhg something we are revisiting. with respect we are where demands. expect what else we can do to use that. at the same time hand in hand looking at what are opportunities to deliver and have a diverse set of supply options for the future >> this study would i think some point will come back approximate tell us this is how the design guess and when we need. so i guess men the request and i

don't know what how does this fully looks like but i wander if we encourage them and i know the focus here is to -- look at purified water and try to put it in the reservoirs and be able to use it part of the water supply for the system. for our entire system. i wonder like imagine you and i are transported to 2045, and we look back and say. may be we did not need if this size. or i wrndz if there is a wa to encourage thome do more of an analysis rather than one design and one idea. especially considering the people involved that would challenge and think broader. >> y.s to answer your question we are looking at things 5 gallons per day and 12 million per day and in addition to

capacity size we look at different operational options and as this changes we think about it differents low over time we need tong about the capacity and the operations we electric at that. this is the fourth install am of our planning for the project. so. also trying to think incrementally we want a no regret's prop as we move forward and making sure we right size the projects. we don't look at demand or supply needs once and done we look at them. we are doing that. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> other questions? >> public comment. >> if you wish to make public comment press story 3 to speak.

there is one call in queue. hello i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> good afternoon, commissioners nicole [inaudible] i wish to peek in support of this item before you today. pleased that staff brought you [inaudible]ing this is an excellent project and appreciate their efforts. why thank you. thank you for sharing your comments. there are no more callers in the queue any further discussion in can i have a motion and second. move to approve >> i second. >> roll call. >> president moran. >> aye. >> vice president ajami. >> aye. >> commissioner maxwell.

>> item 15 passes next item. >> next is public comment on the matter to be heard during closed session. item 18. members of the public had wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 18 for closed session conference legal council regarding litigation. san francisco superior court number cgc-21-pine 3613 person injury claim 100 thousand dollars. action to approve a settlement subject to approval by the board of supervisors. any members of the public who wish to comment >> do we have callers with hands raised? there are no callers. >> thank you. public comment on closed session is closed. >> thank you.

think we have a motion weather to acert attorney/client privilege y. move to acert. >> roll call >> president moran. >> aye >> vice president ajami. >> aye. >> commissioner maxwell. >> the item americans can a motion whether to disclose discussions during closed session? move to not to disclose. >> roll call. >> president more an. >> aye. why voip aiamy >> aye. why commissioner maxwell. the item passes. no other business before the

commission this meeting is adjourned. thank you.

sustainability mission, even though the bikes are very minimal energy use. it still matters where the energy comes from and also part of the mission in sustainability is how we run everything, run our business. so having the lights come on with clean energy is important to us as well. we heard about cleanpowersf and learned they had commercial rates and signed up for that. it was super easy to sign up. our bookkeeper signed up online, it was like 15 minutes. nothing has changed, except now we have cleaner energy. it's an easy way to align your environmental proclivities and goals around climate change and it's so easy that it's hard to not want to do it, and it doesn't really add anything to the bill.

>> when i open up the paper every day i'm just amazed at how many different environmental issues keep popping up. when i think about the planet i want to leave for my children and other generation, i think of what contribution i can make on a personal level to the environment. ♪♪♪ clean power sf is san francisco's key way of fighting climate change by renewable energy and offering it to san francisco customers. i'm from the san francisco public utilities commission. the program came about with state wide legislation in 2002 to enable people to take more control over supplies.

i first heard of the program when the organization was advocating to launch clean power sf. what i'm most excited about, it's going to bring 100% renewable energy to my home and reinvest into renewable energy infrastructure and jobs. i had gone to a lot of street fairs and heard from the staff at the san francisco public utilities commission to sign up for clean power sf even before it launched. >> we learned about clean power sf because our sustainability team is always looking for clean operations. linkedin is the largest online network. there are about 530 million members using our site. in this san francisco office

there's about 1400 employees working in roughly 400,000 square feet. >> after signing up for the program we heard about the san francisco program and learned they had commercial rates and signed up for that. i'm the co-owner of the new wheel electric bike shop. we opened this store in 2012 and the new wheel sells and services electric bikes. 11 people work here in san francisco and our store is about 2,000 square feet. electric bikes are fantastic for transportation in the city, they're clean and green and you get places faster than any other form of transportation. it amplifies the power, it doesn't replace it. it makes it easier to get places by bicycle and it's so enjoyable and environmentally friendly way to go and more convenient in san francisco. >> clean power sf requires two

products, green, 40% renewable and competitively priced with pg and e. for those who want to fight climate change more, 100% renewable at $0.02 per kilawatt. >> i decided to go with the super greens, after finding it only to cost about $5 more a month to have super green, that's a no-brainer, i can do that. >> we were pleased that clean power sf offers the super green 100% for commercial entities like ours and residents for the city of san francisco. we were pleased with the package of services for linkedin and now encouraging our employees who have a residence in san francisco to sign on as well.

>> clean power sf buys its power from renewable plants that feed the energy directly into the grid. >> there's a commitment to sustainability throughout the entire organization and this clean power opportunity reflects that. >> one of the wind farms we use is the shilo wind farm and that is large enough to be able to provide energy for up to 200,000 homes. >> our mission is sustainability, even though our bikes are minimal energy use, it still matters where the energy comes from and part of our mission in sustainability is how we run everything -- run our business. having the lights come on with clean energy is very important. >> the sunset reservoir has solar panels that take up about four city blocks covering the reservoir and the solar power

generates energy for city resources and clean power sf for residents participating in the program. >> it was easy to sign up for the program, i went online to cleanpowersf.org and i started getting pieces in the mail letting me know i was going to be switched over and it just happened. when i pay my bill, i still go to pg and e and i don't see any difference between now and a year ago. >> sign up online, just have your account number ready and it takes about two minutes and there's nothing to install. no lines are getting connected to your home. all the power goes through the existed power grid. >> we haven't had any problems with the switch over to clean power. >> it's super easy to sign up. our book keeper signed up online, it took about 15 minutes. nothing changed but now we have

cleaner energy. >> we see clean power sf as a key strategy to meet renewable energy goal, we have a goal of 50% renewable energy by 2020. currently we have enrolled about 86,000 customers across the city. about 20% of what we hope to serve in the future and in the next two years we'll offer service to all san francisco electricity customers. >> an easy way to align your environmental responsibilities and goals around climate change and it's so easy that it's hard to not want to do it and it doesn't really add anything to the bill. >> joining clean power sf is one of the easiest ways to fight climate change, receiving cleaner energy at low and stable rates, you're helping to support a not for profit that helps influence the energy grid and produce more production.

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>> i don't think you need to be an expert to look around and see the increasing frequency of fires throughout california. they are continuing at an ever-increasing rate every summer, and as we all know, the drought continues and huge shortages of water right now. i don't think you have to be an expert to see the impact. when people create greenhouse gases, we are doing so by different activities like burning fossil fuels and letting off carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and we also do this with food waste. when we waste solid food and leave it in the landfill, it puts methane gas into the atmosphere and that accelerates the rate at which we are warming our planet and makes all the

effects of climate change worse. the good news is there are a lot of things that you can be doing, particularly composting and the added benefit is when the compost is actually applied to the soil, it has the ability to reverse climate change by pulling carbon out of the atmosphere and into the soil and the t radios. and there is huge amount of science that is breaking right now around that. >> in the early 90s, san francisco hired some engineers to analyze the material san francisco was sending to landfill. they did a waste characterization study, and that showed that most of the material san francisco was sending to landfill could be composted. it was things like food scraps, coffee grounds and egg shells and sticks and leaves from gardening. together re-ecology in san

francisco started this curbside composting program and we were the first city in the country to collect food scraps separately from other trash and turn them into compost. it turns out it was one of the best things we ever did. it kept 2.5 million tons of material out of the landfill, produced a beautiful nutrient rich compost that has gone on to hundreds of farms, orchards and vineyards. so in that way you can manage your food scraps and produce far less methane. that is part of the solution. that gives people hope that we're doing something to slow down climate change. >> i have been into organic farming my whole life. when we started planting trees, it was natural to have compost from re-ecology. compost is how i work and the soil biology or the microbes feed the plant and our job as

regenerative farmers is to feed the microbes with compost and they will feed the plant. it is very much like in business where you say take care of your employees and your employees will take carolinas of your customers. the same thing. take care of the soil microbes and soil life and that will feed and take care of the plants. >> they love compost because it is a nutrient rich soil amendment. it is food for the soil. that is photosynthesis. pulling carbon from the atmosphere. pushing it back into the soil where it belongs. and the roots exude carbon into the soil. you are helping turn a farm into a carbon sink. it is an international model. delegations from 135 countries have come to study this program. and it actually helped inspire a new law in california, senate bill 1383. which requires cities in california to reduce the amount of compostable materials they send to landfills by 75% by

2025. and san francisco helped inspire this and this is a nation-leading policy. >> because we have such an immature relationship with nature and the natural cycles and the carbon cycles, government does have to step in and protect the commons, which is soil, ocean, foryes, sir, and so forth. -- forest, and so fors. we know that our largest corporations are a significant percentage of carbon emission, and that the corporate community has significant role to play in reducing carbon emissions. unfortunately, we have no idea and no requirement that they disclose anything about the carbon footprint, the core operation and sp360 stands for the basic notion that large corporations should be transparent about the carbon footprint. it makes all the sense in the world and very common sense but is controversial. any time you are proposing a

policy that is going to make real change and that will change behavior because we know that when corporations have to disclose and be transparent and have that kind of accountability, there is going to be opposition. >> we have to provide technical assistance to comply with the state legislation sb1383 which requires them to have a food donation program. we keep the edible food local. and we are not composting it because we don't want to compost edible food. we want that food to get eaten within san francisco and feed folks in need. it is very unique in san francisco we have such a broad and expansive education program for the city. but also that we have partners in government and nonprofit that are dedicated to this work. at san francisco unified school district, we have a sustainability office and

educators throughout the science department that are building it into the curriculum. making it easy for teachers to teach about this. we work together to build a pipeline for students so that when they are really young in pre-k, they are just learning about the awe and wonder and beauty of nature and they are connecting to animals and things they would naturally find love and affinity towards. as they get older, concepts that keep them engaged like society and people and economics. >> california is experiencing many years of drought. dry periods. that is really hard on farms and is really challenging. compost helps farms get through these difficult times. how is that? compost is a natural sponge that attracts and retains water. and so when we put compost around the roots of plants, it holds any moisture there from rainfall or irrigation. it helps farms make that corner and that helps them grow for

food. you can grow 30% more food in times of drought in you farm naturally with compost. farms and cities in california are very hip now to this fact that creating compost, providing compost to farms helps communities survive and get through those dry periods. >> here is the thing. soil health, climate health, human health, one conversation. if we grow our food differently, we can capture all that excess carbon in the atmosphere and store it in unlimited quantities in the soil, that will create nutrient dense foods that will take care of most of our civilized diseases. so it's one conversation. people have to understand that they are nature. they can't separate. we started prowling the high plains in the 1870s and by the 1930s, 60 year, we turned it into a dust bowl. that is what ignorance looks like when you don't pay attention to nature. nature bats last.

so people have to wake up. wake up. compost. >> it is really easy to get frustrated because we have this belief that you have to be completely sustainable 24/7 in all aspects of your life. it is not about being perfect. it is about making a change here, a change there in your life. maybe saying, you know what? i don't have to drive to that particular place today. today i am going to take the bus or i'm going to walk. it is about having us is stainable in mind. that is -- it is about having sustainability in mind. that is how we move the dial. you don't have to be perfect all the time. >> san francisco has been and will continue to be one of the greener cities because there are communities who care about protecting a special ecosystem and habitat. thinking about the history of the ohlone and the native and indigenous people who are stewards of this land from that history to now with the

ambitious climate action plan we just passed and the goals we have, i think we have a dedicated group of people who see the importance of this place. and who put effort into building an infrastructure that actually makes it possible. >> we have a long history starting with the gold rush and the anti-war activism and that is also part of the environmental movement in the 60s and 70s. and of course, earth day in 1970 which is huge. and i feel very privileged to work for the city because we are on such a forefront of environmental issues, and we get calls from all over the world really to get information. how do cities create waste programs like they do in san francisco. we are looking into the few which you are and we want innovation. we want solutions.

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