sfmta board of director's meeting. >> good afternoon members of the public the meet is hybrid occur nothing person at city hall room 4 huh human broadcast live on sfgov.org and phone. >> public comment in person and row mote by call in for each item the board of take first those in person and then from those call nothing remote. the number is 415-655-0001 and

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anyone responsible for ringing or use of a cell phone or sound producing devoices. accomplices you on item 4. approval of millions for september 20 regular meeting. >> directors are there additions to the minutes. >> open to public comment this . is time for members to comment on minutes from the last meeting. if you issue in the queue press star 3. if you like to speak. where we have a caller in the queue. >> mr. pilpel. >> what? >> i don't see anything immediately if i do catch something i will communicate to secretary silva. thank you. >> are there other callers on the line. >> i see none. why we'll go ahead and take a motion on this. >> motion to approve the

minutes. >> second. >> call the role. >> director cajina. >> aye. >> drushth hinze. >> aye. >> director yekutiel. >> aye >> chair boarden >> aye. >> communications i have 99. >> are there communications? >> we will move on. >> item 6 introduction of new or unfinished business by board members. why any items under business? next item >> item 7 director's report. hopeful low you have something to tell us. why all right. thank you. members of the board i'm jeff tumlin the executive director of the sfmta. our first item in the director's report is a special recognition transit director would you like to introduce our honoree?

it is my pleasure to intlus tim rossy his cap id is pon 82 a transit operator out of kirkland hoe is supported by theo and monica twof our managers. and i'm here to talk about an incredible incident that tim facilitated and i also wanted to show off for a minute about had i consider to be the highest standards in customer service of from our muni operators. tim is routinely given commendations from customers. i wanted to read in to you. this driver is so polite and friendly. he makes my day. cares about his passengers. this driver was gracious, patient and helpful with all of

us. that man was an angel. he was making sure everyone was taken care of. i want to thank the bus driver for gracious and comapproximation for the ill man in his family and follow up for their welfare. the bus operator managed the medical emergency and irate passengers, thank you. why so this is just tim's regular day. but -- on september 11th, tim was driving the 28. and he got to stones town. 19th avenue you can imagine what is going on there will. and he cease an elderly woman not in his bus. but disorientd and navigating without shows, 19th avenue. >> in was an elderly woman. joyce [inaudible].

and -- we later found out that the police was looking for her for hours. tim was able to rescue her. get her on the bus. and kahl her down. be a resourcech get the medical help she needed and when she was scared and disor yenltsed was the one that walked her on the ambulance inworried to get this help. >> the family shared that she is doing great. and because of tim's above and beyond actions. i wanted to on behalf of the board, give you this you this. i know they would love to hear from you on your experiences as an operator. >> thank you. good afternoon. thank you for this --

spectacular honor i'm grateful. will i'm proud to be an operator. native of san francisco i ridden muni my whole life. i think it it is a store ed franchise a beautiful place to be. the bus driver should be someone that is trusted. we take your children, your grandchildren, your grand mothers and grandfathers and parents and lived ones to and from, we are sometimes the first person you see of the day and the last person you will see of the day. with that, we have an opportunity. upon because we are at the 41 line of humanity. and with all nais happen with our city and with every city in america we have a really brill iant opportunity to be the ripple affect. i believe. and to act from kindness and emathand he compassion. and professionalism.

and to treat each person with the respect they deserve because they are a human being. this is had i put forth i'm fortunate to have superintendents that are brill iant and coworkers that set the bar very high. and i'm just trying to reach that every day and -- thank you very much for this honor. it is a wonderful moment in my life am thank you very much. [applause] >> we cannot thank you enough. our are not under estimated makes me proud to be a part of the agency and i see operators making a difference and dealing with what you deal with for to you saw a person in distress and

took care of it, it is the ultimate embody am of public service. i can't thank you enough. i'm proud to be part of an agency people that work with the heart and soul that you do. thank you for that. this i think also helps restore in the times people have concerns about humanity or humans dp ability to have compassion for one another and when you showed and all the acts you do regularly. thank you. i'm personal low a daily muni rider. i know what it is like when you feel things are wrong on the bus and i feel for the prirts and i can move but you can't. so, i want to thank you. i continue is in the the easiest at times but it is trough you make many people's day when is the bus shows up and you are on your way to work. thank you for your service and for your being part of this incredible family sfmta and

thank you to your team that they help enable people to be amazing employees and feel proud of what they do. i don't know if anybody wants to say anything. i can't express enough gratitude. >> very kind. thank you. with this we thank you and i then and there we will want to get a photo [laughter]. >> while we're getting that photo. board members and everyone in the public, if you go to sfmta.com/munifeedback you can offer any complaints you like about our service that helps us allocate our limited resources and you can offer any praise you would like for any employees. those who go above and beyond in helping make san francisco work. know that all of those get read.

the compliments go straight to the each and that person's supervisor and the comp meaningful to our staff. >> so. i have a brief director's report i will cover some minor subway updates and a legislative update and a couple of special events. so with central subway. sfmta fully tain taken over the operations and over all majs of the tunnels and mechanical system. our crewers down there in the subway all day every day. doing 2 shifts of upon training. all operators need to get trained and the operations of the subway and custodians are there cleans and agents are trinned how the systems work and we are expecting occupancy certification for the yerba buena mosconi station and market

street stations in the next 2 weeks. our contransplanter is completing the latch final minor punch list items in the china town station. and then we will be able to get final certifications from all of the regulators including cal and cpu c there are publicen events at the station in thes coming weeks. community events intended it thank community members for dealing with years of construction. we will be able to show off the art work that is at the stations including show case the archaeological artifacts we found excavating the stations and now those time lines are currently questioneded for october 20th for community everyone at china town. october 25 for marketistry

station. we are working to schedule something for fourth and brannon. november third for yerba buena and mosconi station and we will schedule an event for friends and family folks who have worked on all aspects of getting the project built including folks doing construction work. accountants and procurement people who made all of the paperwork possible and got our contractors paid. for all the folks involved in planning and project management and testing and occupancy. next up we have a legislative update and a lot has gone on in this legislative cycle. last friday marked the end of the 2022, 2 year session. final ded line for the govern to act on bills sent to him. over all, this year's results have been quite g. with the

govern taking final action on a variety of bills that were high priorities to the sfmta. the enacted bills include sb922 scott wiener's stream lining bill that extends a budget provision allowed us to move quickly in implementing project this is helped us do safety quick build products throughout pandemic and 14 mileless of neurotransit lanes we built out during the pandemic. that law is extends for another decade. although i'm not certain. another bill 1938, by member laura freedman helps to make sure that the 20 mile an hour speed limit law and other changes to setting that the laws that she passed in 2021, there was question about whether they

would be able to continue. ab1938 ensures that those remain valid. member freedman also got through ab1909. her bike bill which did a lot of changes including removing prohibitions of class 3 electric bikes from paths and trails. e lim in a minutes local authority to ban electric bikes from paths. minor modifications around the. 3 foot passing >> reporter: for motor vehicles over take bikes and included provision that alighthouse cyclists to use the leading pedestrian interval pedestrian walking person significant until to allow them to go with pedestrians i did not state that

clearly >> now in san francisco, the walk signal will turn on before the green light does the leading pedestrian interval this law will allow cyclists to use the leading pedestrian interval to enter and across through the intersection before the green ball turns on. we had some questions about details or implementing that aspect of the bike limb bill that parking lot of the bill it is in the start for another year. another bill senate bill 1161 requires the transportation institute to develop a survey for street harrassment bills supports around our gender equity safety initiative. we were happily supporters.

spesified traffic infractions unless a careful person would realize there is a danger of collision with a moving vehicle. 2147 does is it e eliminated jay walk enforcement in california. you can't stop a person and give them a citation because they are crossing against the light. you can only issue that citation if a reasonable person would identify they were endangering themselves or others we doing so. >> govern vetoed bill it is we were tracking. some of those are like low to reappear in different form in the next session including free transit houses for all students the upon govern directed the legislator to identify funding for, before he would sign. >> so we are now beginning work

for the new 2 year session that begins in january. identified top priorities and look forward to collaborating with you to solidify those priorities >> i couple events -- fleet week geoff began last sunday and that will cull monate this weekend friday, saturday and sunday with the air show. to the port that is usual will run extra service on the f line. and also as a reminder that muni is fro for those with military i d during fleet week. next, we are partnering with san francisco beautiful. san francisco school district and 826 valence why to support artists and poets converting muni buss to rolling art galleries. works of art and poems by city youth will be selected through

voting this month and selections in january. and finally, one of my favorite events of the year phoenix day, again. on october 16th. phoenix day the city spments over 50 neighborhood hosted parties in every district. a lot of sidewalk sales by merchant groups and small businesses. i doz ebb out door family fun hubs and community lead projects to make the city better and fun. and that is all i have in my report. >> directors are there questions or comments for the director? >> we will open to public meant time for the members who would like to comment on anything during tumlin's director's report. >> i have 2 in the queue. >> first speaker?

>> thank you. hope you can hear me. subway opening and may be i will be in san francisco for those public events. hopeful low we get lots coming out like the bart 50th anniversary. last mont. so -- that's a good thing and making sense of the legislative stuff but -- i'm look forward to the new jay walking guidance. i think that there are better things to do than citing people from crossing the street. and -- just we don't want people getting caught up in that. and also -- the e bike bill make it easier for people to ride e

bikes around the state because roads and bike ways and they cross through multiple jurisdictions. electric bikes don't generate e missions better than the gas scooters noise and he they smell and not so good things come from that over all, i think we have a good director's report here. and i hope to be able to participate more in these things and hopefully get more electric bicycles out there on the road. and i can use. thank you. >> thank you.

next speaker. finish online and we will have you. >> great. jury room daved pilpel again. 2 follow up pieces on the director's report. primarily from the last meeting. i asked if that time and once again to post the director's report there was a slide presentation and i saw that during the meeting and great if that could be posted to the meeting page from september 20th. and also to follow up on the emphasis on gender based hart rasment i have seen the posters on vehicles but i still inquire if that emphasis is yet reflected in muni passenger rules and regulations if not will we see changes to our proposed changes to rules and regulations with promote notice

before the meeting to incorporate that emphasis on minimizing gender based harassment on vehicles. thanks for listening. >> thank you. >> are there other callers online? >> i'm susan i came for general public comment after hearing the report i had a reaction. what i did not hear as a priority is the report that was promised 16 months ago. and i hear a lot of what i consider, luxury projects. street parties, art. but we are dealing with more basic. which is homeless people having everything taken away by sfmta. when i crewip i taught you need to do your home work before you go out and party.

and sfmta seems to planning a lot of festivities without prioritizing a report that we are waiting for and have been waiting for for over a yearch and i would like to see movement on it. because every week the same thing is happening -- to homeless people. they are having everything they own taken from them by sfmta. and time is of the essence. thank you. next -- speaker please. any other speakers on the director's report? we will close this item and move on. >> will item number 8. the status's council report we don't have that. item 9 general public comment. >> this is time for members of the public to comment on items not on today's agenda before or

after this point. but within the jurisdiction of the sfmta. if you are online press star 3 to get in the queue we will start with those in the room. anyone in the room who would like to make a general public comment, approach the front of the room. lineup if there is more than one lineup on the side of the of tv's. hi. familiar face. all of you are familiar to me. i'm [inaudible] kelly we coalition on homeless knows representing the stop proffer coalition. we heard that poverty tows will be on your agenda this fall. we need to know the day a week

in advanced. when that agenda item will be calendared. we also need that item the agenda item to be an action item not a discussion item. or a listening item. like a year ago. more than a year ago. enough listening we need action. many people have spoken that i have spoken to in the bayview who live in their vehicles have said that witness their vehicle and everything in it is taken, they give up. they had this happen before. so many times and have not been able to retrieve their vehicle and their possessions. the steps that a person has to take moving from one department office to another to try to figure out how they will get their vehicle back. what fees they have it pay this

and that and discounselos tickets and soing are not enough. once the tow happened the damage has been done. you will hear from people upon today who refuse to be erased. they refuse to be treated az a criminal they raise their heads high and they reminds us they, are neighbors. towing and retraumatizing people is not the answer to homeless knowledge. sfmta needs to do its part to keep people in their vehicular homes. please listen to us. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi. i'm alison francis.

i was listening to everything and i have a 4 year old daughter, phoenix and a community art day sounds wonderful i have a 15 year old daughter growingum i came to san francisco around her age for acceptance and for a nice street party but i was of taken to a home where i was drugged and ripped. years later i finds myself juggling the homeless shelters and family shelters and such. finding myself and family court which was hard to juggle and i lived in different sheds and living homeless on the street until i had my car. you know fortunately, due to surverify techniques i blocked things out when i was a teen

until the trauma resurfaced. live nothing a car protected me and shielded me. from that i may be older now but reliving that especially after losing my children, which i have become now in my life i have a now daughter, phoenix. i was living in bayview and my car and i was side swiped and possibly i did not yield. i had weeken up that morning and next thing you know when the police had come, i turn around and my car is being towed registered, insured i had pictures and belongings i had planned to bring to my children. and i say why are you towing my car. this is my show now. i feel like bullies are created when these are enforced. i was asked to come here today

to share my store and he how live nothing my minivan was protecting me. >> your time is up. you said you were there when you were towed. >> yes. >> mr. mc guire can you talk to her. that does not make sense was this 5 years ago and i had my daughter. my understanding but -- can't have a conversation i want to make sure we are clear on what the policy is, mr. mc guire could you tell her what the policy is today. >> i appreciate that, thank you. >> next speaker, please. i wanted to run through how complex it is to get your vehicle back. one thing it goes to the city at 850 bryant and there for 4 hours. you are charged more for from there to the other yard because it is a larger vehicle charged

twice as much storage as a car it takes up space you have to go and get a release. and if it is in the registered or your name you are screwed. if you want a tow herring you post the tow fees before they give you a tow hearing, which there will be a significant amount considering you were displaced. all the work and the footwork when you don't have a place to rest your head is really difficult. i don't think what the solution is. i don't think towing everybody's vehicle is good. anyway. thank you. >> hello jordan smith. back again. so, it has been brought to my attention that you guys think that everybody live in rv's are

drug users and the lowest common denominator in the city. this is in the true. i don't use drugs is quit smoking cigarettes i had somebody 3 an ax through my window as i was driving up to my rv and thankfully because of that i'm getting an apartment. but let me tell you the coolest people you mote in your life live in rv's. i originally came to san francisco to go to school at ccsf it was free college. decided i could not afford the rendz. i should live in an rv. i did that. and i went through a dwreer and a half of school. and i'm lost the reason i didn't was going i stopped gchlg before that i was going to culinary

school right up the street. um did not live in the rv then lived in the dorms. you know the people here in the city are really cool people and especially they are just some people are poor they can't spends 3 thousand dollars a month on an apartment t. is ridiculous. so -- when think bhg these people. just -- give them a bit of credit and a benefit of the doubt. we are all people trying to get along and have a good time and enjoy san francisco. >> thank you. next speaker, please. i'm susan i have been here before a 23 year resident of san francisco and i realm want to encourage you to hold this hearing on poverty tows soon as

possible. the fall was had you said we have 4 more meetings in the fall. honestly it seems like there is a reverse robin hood phenomenona going on in the bayview. how do we tow people's vehicles and then they sell them at auction. nobody gets their vehicle back the amount of hurdles they go through is difficult for someone who was housed. and had access it a computer and pen and paper and a phone. and a place to sit and take notes when people get their vehicle towed they are put in complete survival mode they are now on the street. they have no place to sleep or clean clothes they have nothing. so -- nobodying gets their vehicle back. and i think it would important to look at who is being towd and why. >> what i have seen from talking

to people it is a racket. autotows and they sell temperature nobody gets their vehicle back. these are people who are struggling and they are humans not loadents. >> the were purpose the idea behind a hear suggest to bring people here to get an understanding what is going out there on the street. because i don't think you want it to continue if you understands what is happening from where you are sitting you are not understanding what is going on. we would like it provide that that for you. thank you for your time and service to the city. >> i have 3 in the queue.

perfect. first caller on the line, please. um -- thank you. share borden [inaudible]. i hope to be in san francisco again soon. and ride muni. i do ride it sometimes to certain areas and -- i certainly think it is important it work on clipper. i spent a week in chicago don't know if you have been there. our friends low neighbor 2,000 miles to the east. i used there public transportation system there are several parts most noticeable low the l. they have a card a venture card. here is one thing i noticed that people in chicago love their

ventsure card all the hundreds i saw boarding. the number of people who used something other than that i count on one hand. so -- in chicago they welcome make it easy for people to do this. and i ask that you noted presume people incapable of doing clipper. because chicago was helping people to use vent ra. and it works really well. i have 2 venture cards myself. so, anyway. i had a good time in chicago riding their buss and trains and ask what can we learn from other systems. that are muni can have a polished [coughing] transportation system like what i got to experience. in chicago. so, i hope to get back and ride

on the new subway and the market street subway and the buss and electric bus. i ask this that as we build our muni, don't presume people incapable we can all learn and do it. thank you. falla k atz. i'm surprised mr. tumlin did not report working with supervisor mar mt arecognized well bus mead and serve a single seat roadway to take them downtown without having to transfer in westportal and there will be an l bus on week days [reading fast] find the necessary resources to restore full service downtown for all the well buses. i'm spriedz mr. tumlin did not

support the city attorney said it did in the center to get board's approval to stop l bus at westportal he reported tous you to in a community meeting when i asked him area a written report [inaudible] he said that he did not want to spend the thousand dollars to get a written report and ask the city attorney they will not provide a report for me but will for you. i ask to you ask the city attorney for a written report whether mta violated the charter tend the the l bus at westportal and the longer segment to embarcadero with half the stops. charter section 16 penalty 12b provides notice given and hearings held before any change in the operating schedule when a bus line is adoptd that did in the happen. [reading very fast] if the city

earn it is an exception to the charter riefrmless the board approved bus route changes the public deserves to know why and the facts and luthe city attorney relied upon. thank you. >> thank you. >> yes. i'm charles. i'm a residents of san francisco. my pronouns are he and him of i identify as disabled and regularly walk through the city. first, there is an accessibility issue with online board meetings the scrolling text with calling information is distracting to me and prevennes me from focusing on the meeting content i use my computer software to cover the scrolling text prevents me from seeing parts of presentations and forces mow to watch a small

image my work around does not work in full screen video it is hard to tell when to call in. replace the moving text with a still image containing the calling information and display that information only at the time people can call in to comment. sect. improve signage for people who walk. i wuk a lot in the city. i encounter stairways that don't go through to the next street. sidewalks thattent abruptlieen though the street continues and encounter dead end or no outlet signs i can't tell if there is i way through on foot. i am requesting that the board encourage walking by expanding the sfmta mission to include improves and increased signage for people on foot. don't assume people have a [inaudible] and check this on a map this it is an equity issue to make walk accessible and

available to all. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> that concludes speakers in the queue. >> thank you. we will have a comment and move on, then >> item 10 your consent calendar. >> the items are routine and acted upon by a single vote unless a member or public wishes to consider one separately. public lynchoth phone if you wish to address the board press star 3 to be added to the queue and all speakers identify which item you are speaking to. item 10 opinion 1, requesting the controller to a lot funds against funds available in payment of the following claims against the sfmta item athrough d in the agenda of 10.2 various parking and traffic modifications listed as a-p in the agenda.

10.3, adopting a resolution making findings pursuant to ab361 for occurred remote meetings of the authorizing the director lease extension option and execute the first amendment with hudson 1455 market as landlord in the sfmta as tenant a portion of the 7th floor on market street a portion of the first floor and bike room on the first floor garage for the management center for additional 10 year term effective september 20 of 23 and authorize the director to exercise the second lease discretion if the second les is no more than their market value. 10 between the 5 authorize the sfmta to issue a request for proposals for communication based train control system awarded with 10 years and wave

the code section 21.9a2 prohibition issuing solicitations for professional services a term long are than 10 years. authorize the sfmta to negotiated prosecute cure am procedures and adopt findings urn the california environmental equality act. and for the record we had an updated ordinance for 10 penalty 5 that is consistents with the staff report and resolution. directors you have a copy. members of the public i have a few caps here and you wanted copies on our web page. that concludes consent. >> are there items you would like pulled from consent? >> seeing none. we will open up to public comment. members of the public have comment on consent. >> i have one speaker in the queue. >> proceed. >> can you hear me now?

>> yes. >> great temperature is david pilpel, so, i had comments on item 10 penalty 4 and 10.5. i'm not entirely clear on which version of the ordinance is posted. it does in the indicate that there was an update so -- i'm -- not clear since it appear there is is a presentation perhaps we can sever and heard separate low and if you allow i will offer comments on 10 penalty 4 and move through that first and separately? does that work? >> yes. >> okay. great. so on 10 opinion 40 lease extension for the tmc at 1455 market street the resolution. i will deal with that.

not guilty resolved clouz authorizes the director of transportation to exercise a lease extension. and but the lease extension document itself on page 13 the packet which it is a weirdly formatted page has a signature line for director of property and the resolution does not authorize the director or designee and does not reference the city's director of property it has in the attest box secretary sfmta board of director. singular not plural. and then it goos to the following page. it is just weirdly formats on the signature page. again. the authorization is of the director and not the city's real estate director. mta has pace on the third, 6, 7 and eighth flowers on 1 south

van ness half of the building space why not have the tmc on the eighth floor. >> thank you. >> work from home. >> your time is up. >> you can talk later on the other item we sever it. >> >> we will -- are there additional speakers >> no additional speakers. >> great. what we will do is close public comment on content. general low severing the 10.5 item. directors i have a motion for the rest of agenda for the within-4. >> so moved. >> can you call the roll. >> on the motion to approve the consent 10 penalty 5 severed director caginasm >> aye joovm director heminger. >> aye >> director hinze. >> aye >> director yekutiel >>ing aye >> chair borden.

>> aye. >> the consent is approved. we can have you just do a brief presentation on the item and then the updated resolution related it. skwoo transit direct a point clarification do you want us to run through the power point that was provided as back grounds in the calendared item orment us to speak verbally. joy do not. i just thought it was well presented. to us. i thought it might be good to get top lines there will be many opportunity to peek on this. i know we have colleagues of mine their own subcommittee on this item. i just feel like since it is i large contract give us your top line updates for me that is all

i need. that's how i feel about it. >> great. director heminger? >> yes. and in part in response to director yekutiel he noted, i believe madam chair you created a subcommittee at our last meeting and since that meeting the subcommittee has met. it composed of myself and our chair and vice chair. and we are all going to learn more about technology and train control than we wanted to know. i think the staff it is well prepared in terms of the approach that they are pursuing for the rfp. it is not entirely conventional. i think it is important to emphasize and requires some changes from the board of prierzs in order to -- we talked about a couple of items at our

meeting that will are on the to do list. swon to learn from procurements around the world. including here in the bay from bart. and -- we hope to see them at the next meeting. and also to get a briefing on the risk management process. which i think has been one of the failures that we had with our other large capitol projectless. where there was not sufficient planning for what happens if things go wrong. and often as you know when things go wrong they take longer to do as well. and when they take longer you spends more monetch it is this vicious circle. and the better thing is to not enter of the circle at all that is an of brief butt what the committee is doing and our intention is to meet before each major board action on this

contract. to shad oat process and to inform you and your colleagues about what we learned and our recommendations about what we learned. >> thank you. >> thank you. joy think that answers your question but director had a more specific question about high level. >> well, i appreciate that. i think that it flows perfectly in why we are here today. this project is focusing intense low lessons learned. from a variety of sources. the current system itself poses a tremendous amount lessons learned. good and bad. impeccable safety referred we need to rebelicate that the contract was not set up for success. big projects like vaness and central subway provide person

lessons on how we approach our p and how we identify and assess risk. sfmta's technology projects like the radio replacement are also a source of information. as well as the very small handful of domestic nears have this technology and then broadly looking at canada for examples. what is buffer today is basically giving us the authority to ask the board of supervisors for the ability to do 2 things. one is to have a negotiated procure am. which is -- best practice. and how we do our vehicle contracts. it is really -- extremely helpful when the suppliers is doing the design work but you

are trying to push the industry. because -- instead of having to anticipate everything up front in the first,ed round of the rfp we put out our intent. learn from the proposals we received and then if we need to, put out a second rounds of proposals while keeping all of the potential bidding firms in the process. it allows us to get the best potential partner for the agency. the second piece is ask the board of supervisors to wave restriction that allow the city toern in contracts that are long are than 10 years. and we think that is incrediblely important. because we want to negotiate the support contract for the work. up front during the competitive process. rather than waiting until they are the only show in town.

and -- and we don't have the same leverage. and some of the things we are including in that contract are vend are managed spare inventory. where they have to keep us in stock for parts for rolling 2 year basis. the vender will get the same price whether we use hundreds of parts or whether we use no parts. rather than them making money when things break they make it when things don't break it incentivizes in the design process to build a more stable and reliable process. so -- still to come is coming back to you for authority to issue the rfp. and then they will be several additional -- installation and consulting contracts coming your way. you will see me a lot. this item is -- a -- an

ordinance request to the board of supervisors. >> thank you. >> other questions or -- other directors? >> seeing none open up to public comment this is time for members who would like to comment on 10.5 our train control rfp procedure process. i have -- one speaker in the queue. >> yes. >> mr. pilpel. >> can you hear me okay. >> yes, i can. >> okay. i don't think i got the full 2 minutes on 2.4 or 30 second warning on that i was trying to say that having the tmc on the eighth floor would require less space and could save up to the 26.8 million over 10 years and replace funds not available from

the rejected june 22 bond measure. 10 penalty 5 there may be benefits from the tea cup program. but it does in the replace transit planning for the rail service plan that has been promised. i wonder if there has been an rfi or rfq. is there interest from more than one potential vendor or is this benefitting a seoul source vendor that would be a problem in my opinion. this project should not facilitate forced passenger transfers at church and market or westportal for j, k or l passengers or anybody else. nor should it allow 3 car trainos m jouda or elsewhere on the street. 3 or 4 or 5 car trains in the subway are welcomed but not on the street. i have no other concerns at this time. on the proposed prop with the

negotiated prosecute curement. thank you for upon listening. >> thank you. >> any other callers? jeopardy one additional caller. next speaker, please. >> great. >> paula cats again i want to discuss the current system in the tunnel and the upcoming system you spoke about. as you know, parts of tervalunder construction since 2018. a few years ago mta announced when the construction ended and the terville light rail vehicles resumed the l tervaland k lines [inaudible] westportal this means the combined circumstance line from the judah westportal and balboa and riders forced transfer westportal to ride downtown to save a few minutes in the tunnel. the transit community meeting last week we were disapoints

when mtaa nounce today is considered in the proposal when the well tervaltrain resumes service in 2024. although no decision has been made. there are over 30,000 tervalride and ares 40,000 k engleside riders ride downtown. i hope the board realizes when the tervalreturns having to transfer at westportal to and from downtown will be unacceptable for our communities. you hear about the plans to speedup service in the tunnel now and the new technology, don't do it at the expense was l and k riders forcing them to transfer to go in the tunnel it waists time leaving walking in the funnel. dangerous. for seniors and people with disabilities and parents with children. residents in outer sunset are

angry for all the destruction our community has gone through with the construction on tervictim when the trines return don't force us to transfer when we arrive at the trains made to ght tunnel. thank you. >> thank you. >> are there additional speakers. >> no one in the queue. we'll close public comment. the merit is observe you. move the item. >> second. >> second. >> if i could just add -- we want to amend the 10 penalty 5 with the updated. >> that's the motion >> move as amended. >> great. >> on that motion director cajina. >> aye. >> director heminger. >> aye. >> director hinze. >> aye. >> director yekutiel. >> aye >> chair borden. >> aye. >> and that amendment has been made do you want to take a second motion to approve as amended? >> second motion to approve as

amended. >> seconded. >> great. >> call the roll >> on that motion director cajina. >> aye >> director heminger. >> aye. >> director hinze. >> aye. >> director yekutiel. >> aye. >> chair borden. >> aye. >> thank you. that item is approved. >> places you on item 11. authorizing the director or his designee to execute the family to the transit shementer with clear channel to extend the agreement for 5 years through december of 27 and guaranteed payments and marketing payments. and increase the maintenance and service obligations of clear channel. >> good afternoon chair board sxen board members. i will run through a very brief for me presentation on the transit shelter program upon

updating you on the nature of the contract amendment. the board will recall when we talked about the budget last spinning a component was talking about the experience of riders they come become to the system. that experience is not just on the vehicle it startses as our stops and shelters and stations. so the key way we maintain our shelters through an agreement with clear channel. that contract as advertising and revenue at shelters and maintenance across 1200 shelters. we will never get a deal like this again. and aloment of credit goes to my predecessor in setting up a way to off set the cost of maintenance with the ref nows from advertising. it is an outstanding deal for the organization. we want to enter in that last 5 year agreement. we will go in a future rfp to

find a replace am this will get us through 2027. i said shelters are key of the system. you will get an update on our customer information system project at the next meeting. we will talk about you know real time information for our riders update you on that. today i will talk about the shelters you will see them on vaness and platforms on the t line and shelters throughout the system. again. when our riders experience muni they experience at the stop. we want to do take the time to improve that experience. make sure they are clean and accurate information and at our next meeting we'll talk about predictions. elements of the contract itself we focussed on making this a pure revenue contract focus on service compoenlts and how we can improve the experience for riders. one component of the contract is the guarantee pure revenue from clear channel that is assume in

the 5 year financial plan and the adopted budget of the mainlies of the shelters. a new is sset management and refresh campaign. advertising. a component is we will be able to advertise when we need to on our shelters for various campaigns we have. and ownership of the shelters themselves transferred to the mta at the end of this contract. here you will see the payment. mag is minimumanual guarantee. they come to the mta no matter if clear channel sells a dear. advertising or 7 million. result of the contract the mta will get 100% of the projected income raised through advertising across the shelters. upon 7 million were assume in the the budget you adopted there is no financial impact to the budget. and then you will see recovery occurs in the city with many

revenue sources that scales up. in the final year you am see a fiscal the difference in the amount that reflects that over all, it is valis 56.4 million to the agency. on the maintenance. of the shelters themselves. a key component of the cop tract going back 15 years was equality. everyone experiences the system the same. i think it it is a value we focus on ecwilt and he what neighborhoods need and conscience of infrastructures across the city we worked 7 months of negotiations. we be increasing maintenance by 50% cross the system. we will go from 2 days a week to 3 days and platforms 5 days a week. we can make adjustments based on needs the contract as stands

before this amendment tied both clear channel and the mta's handos making the daily maintenance adjustmentless we will now be able to do that. in addition, and you will get to hear from her, i have appointed lisa icing to the be the new manager of our sheller program in the past it is contract and managing the revenue component it is important this focuses on maintenance and operations in the field. that is lisa 20 years of experience in public works see will be out in the field w to resolve complaints and issues we see across the city. >> on one key component and change in the contract is taking a management approach. the next after this is our annual state of good repair program. i'm prud we set the standard in the industry. we applyd that to this asset our transit shelter when we asked

clear channel to do have have an inspect contractor and look at all shell and ares a scoring criteria like for any asset we not the condition of our shelters across san francisco and those that are deemed in poor condition and the criteria here, we will implement a refresh campaign. replacing glass and completely removing the shelter and starting brand-new. the refresh campaign includes 3 million dollars clear channel will proviedz and increasing the number of digital advertising shelters. those holdup well. and so we'll be increasing the number of those across the city. >> youingly see the scoring process here. and in addition when it come to advertising in the past mta could take advantage of it if it was available and not in the areas of the city we needed to

get our message out to the public. part of the contract amendment clear channel will provide us a million dollars of free advertising when and where we need it across the city that is 6 million dollars of value will come to the organization and help us with out reach, campaigns. noticing people and other products provide san francisco. and finally on the ownership, between contracts there would be an appraisal and the city purchase the shelters back we don't own them. or the contractor purchase from the prior contractor and take overnight majs. instead at end of the contract the mta will become the owner at no costs to the organizations. the book value will is 6 million dollars. the to sum if up, the ruof the condition tract amendment 66 mission for the agency. 55% increase in mainlies. i think that is a doubling of

the staff. a doubling of the maintenance staff. sick million dollars in capitol and million dollars in advertising and mta the full owner at the end of the contract. in addition, elements on the over all operations of the program. again. we move friday contract management to street operations. so lisa work in real time with public works the police department, hot team and the d. public health to resolve issue in on a role time bases and working with clear channel. in addition, we did set aside dollars to support lisa and her work in the field. with the department of public works i thank the board who came up with this. to have street cleaning and elements to is up element the work of clear channel. support from the department of homelessness and supportive housing and also a work order with the police department to

help weapon issues and disruptions that occur at stops so we can respond to the issues in real time. the prior way was you call 311 and there is a response time. the way we are setting update operation is to make it more real time we hear from operators and the members of the public through the tmc lisa can respond. that is it and a.m. happy to take questions. director yekutiel. are thank you. this is an issue i have taken an interest in. i want to say thank you, i know the negotiations it has been a long set of negotiations and i know both parties work hard to come up with a contracted that can work for both. and i want to say on the out set i'm glad and proud of the w that was done and looks like a great

amendment. thank you for the additional cleaning. from 2 to 3. thank you for the additional staff. thank you for the million dollars of advertising. on the most part i think the contract is good i have questions and then a piece of the contract that i would ask my colleagues to consider amending. first on the cleaning. per week has the act of cleaning changed. what is required. the time? the process of cleaning? >> i will let lisa icing come up. >> i'm lisa i'm goings the new intnts of bus shell and rail platforms. we expect the cloning will be similar tell be more frequency. so they have a nice system you in they go out they scan the shelter first. they take off the graffiti. power wash it and address maintenance they can do.

if we have broken glass or electronics within the shelter that gets reportd and condition tractor come out and repairs that. we have a block on the repairs on glass and electronics but working through that now and with the increase staff we expect to have a quick are turn around on shelter reper se on mainlies y. on staffing an increase in staff one thing that concerned me there were 2 may be 3 people on staff on maintenance for 1200 shelters and the amendment extension what is increase in staffing for maintenance? they have 15 staff member they are teamsters and on shifts and doubling their staff we be up to 30 and have set routes i can run ahead and make sure they are cleared with the upon police department for homeless. and we can do a thorough cleaning and maintenance.

>> i'm sorry are those 30 for cleaning or maintenance or both >> cleaning and maintenance and a separate contractor that does the electronic repair and structure repair on the electronics like lighting. >> i do understand it incorrect low there are people who dot cleaning and then a separate crew that fix broken glass and how many of those people be hireod with this contract? >> you motive want to help me. talk in the microphone people can't pick it up for the closed captioning. >> this is bob schmitt with clear channel. good to see you, thank you for the time. you can tell we will have 8

dedicated to repairs with the new crew and 22 to clean. we have north construction and others that handle the larger projects. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate it. >> so my next -- i know they given us a lot and the mag reduced from the previous contract and now they will not be required to replace every shelter with glass i imagine will save money as well. i think it statute right thing to move this operations from where it was. so the per that i am concerned is the refresh plan. explain the time line as stated for what the refresh plan would be in this contract. >> today until that is completed. the way it is laid out in the amendment is that on the will date it is completed and goes to the board of supervisors. within 6 months clear channel

hires an enemied consultant and go out and review all of the shell and ares we would start the refresh campaign after 90 days. this is the property and what is says and start a program on how to implement what that report is showing. >> thank you, jonathan. on friday night i was walking exploring for the first time in a bid and seeing and i decided i needed a drink i want to lolo and sat down at the bar and chatted with the lady next to me and came up was on the board of the sfmta shed i never met a member of the sfmta i have thoe so much to complain b. i'm here what do you got. she said i have been riding bus my life and feels so dirty. >> the buses are dirty i know we clean themune and have the bus maintenance. >> not the buses the shelters they are so dirty.

they are grimy i'm surrounded by dirt when i go in. i told her i will be here at the hearing. i'm excite weed have a refresh plan this is way, way, too long. i think taking 6 montes to hire a contractor to come up with the plan that will be commenced on 30 days after and in my mind feels drawn out. i would love to hear what the issues are and if it would be possible. i'd like to proposed a conensd did time line the people need the shelters brought up to snuff, now. >> i think, one, we tie today to the legal process with the board of supervisors time to hire a consultant and the time to dot work. the reason that we set it up that way it is somebody independent did at this time clear channel can do and would we accept it and the city may

say not up to snuff in areas. if we used internal staff in partnership with clear channel as partners we could get it don quick are than an independent kong sulant. if you have a more dpraeszive time line we can work out amongst ourselves ability to review all the shelters the amendment lace out the criteria. and we review them together. get back where the issues are and resolve them. joy want to understand this. did you hire lisa to run this program? i did. >> so in my mind and i want to hear staff's perspective on this. i feel if we gave you 60 days from the day we voted on this today not when approved g and use our staff we hire depend brought on to the program to do an assessment of the shelters which reflect on us. the public does not know clear

channel manages it is shelter. they tick a bus and it reflects upon the sfmta. it should be our responsibility to lead on this assess am of shelters maintained by clear channel and come become within 60 days with a plan to bring them to what i say, two points on the shelter scale. i think they should all electric at optimum level and should figure that out in 60 days. >> if we think that is fees annual in the department. >> as a director i allocate resources again i reminds you we have an if i canned amount of staff. we are focused on hiring around muni service restoration. we can re@icate staff. staff that are keeping the stations clean exclude potentially asouffléing the labor category, don'ts get violated, which they could very well. we can reallocate.

we can't within 60 days hire a new team of cleaners in order to expand our ability to clean the system. like my successful all of you is help me to allocate our scarce resources rather demand we do more with limited staff. gi understand it all i'm asking to take into account 60 days and have the staff we have to assess what we need to do what clear channel needs to do to refresh them. i'm not saying hire a new set of cleaners but figure out what needs to be done with the shelters we have. not hiring extra cleaners. using the staff on board to condense the assess am period. i think it is reasonable within 90 days for us to go out and look at the shelters lisa did that daily we have to plan. it is her job i like to let her

speak to our ability to do that. i agree we should get it done as quickly as possible we have been working with clear channel to get equipment early. i will let lisa speak to what is possible. we can make a 60 daytime line. i can't imagine our board was supervisors shouting down a contract to get the shelters fixed. i don't see a reason why we would not start on assessing what we needed as soon as we vote. i than is not i can't direct staff that is up to you. >> in the contract writing 3 million dollars in digital advertising i want to make surety amount of money clear channel is of the having in the

infrastructure of the shelters other than advertising, is included in this refresh plan how much is that? the digital 3 million means the digital shelters. on our standard we have if i canned adds that 3 million will replace the shelters with the digital shelters. no one knew the technology when it went in place. we finds they are not vandalized as often this is an element we add to san francisco that clear channel is willing to do. on top of it, supports the agency getting the revenues the dollars are in accomplice to pifor the maintenance and other elements. twofold one clean up the shell and replace and other issues second it supports clear channel's ability to meet the manage and the revenue

expectations of the program and that funds the increased maintenance and asks we have in the contract. >> i see that i wonder how much money is allocated to fix the things other then and there more digital advertising. nais an additional 3 million. gi have a few more the refresh and the system for when well is an issue and cleaner can clone it. you know i know this if there is someone live nothing i shell or or occupied a shelter sometimes can move them and if they feel uncomfortable or fear of life they move on. it is possible if someone is steaking up spot in a sheller that shelter is in the getting clone. the worry is the shelters to get most attention it is public they are getting the least attention because of the system now. explain how this contract changes that and what process

should be in place so shelters get the cloning they need. >> problem we had with encampment in shelters is difficult to properly relocate them so we can clean the shelter. now that we have the police department on board with the budget of i will have a lot better success having them come out and address the shelter occurrence prosecute active low. we are paying them to help us. shelters are considered fastillities we are working arnold the city ordinances you can't have encampments within 6 feet of a shelter. we can help enforcement it is easier for clear channel they clean the shelter power wish it and everybody is happy it is clean, smells good. you read everything. this is our goal with that. >> the idea here i saw there were additional work orders department of homelessness and p d the idea in the yours where this is an issue to go out

before it gets cloned and folks not in there. so we can clone the shelters >> yes. do we know with the areas are. >> it is in tenderloin, mission, market street and another areas we see a lot on vaness on the new brt. >> can i add one thing. you bring up an important point and huwe changed the process to manage the operations. which again was based on 311. so people would call in and you know -- the everwhere they don't see a response people give up and stop of the focusing all the response on 311 i think is an area we if i can one having lisa out in the field daily. the number one point of issue come from our operators. our operators tell us where the issues are in the shelter. those now go to the tmc and

directly to lisa she is in the field responding. she westbound in front and have the spchlt public works and homelessness department and police to be able to resolve the issues in real time. it is not the series of 311. somebody follow up. we are dealing with them in role time and i think that is when lisa is talking b. she will do that and get in front of it. >> i think my colleague, you know we bring this up the meeting with clear channel. this 311 process was broughts up and independent of each other we both came with our own personal experience with using 311. i 84 days observe bus shelter i was 311ing had movement and i think for her over a thousand days. i'm glad we have folks going out there and we are not relying on public 311. the last thing i heard from

clear channel is they go out, clone and scombroen graffitied. i wanted to ask and kretd space for put nothing place preventive measures on the hard hit bus shelters we are not asking our contractor to workday in and day out if we can prevent the damage from happening? >> the glass is the member one cause and labor intense than i is almost nayed safety glass when it is broken does not produce sharp shards. but it is expensive to replace the broken glass. and i think you stheen especially on market street removing the back glasdz and embarrass in not the most attractive but it does minimize this broad canvas of glass they get etched or broken out.

and it does in the seem to be sustainable to replace this glass over and over. we are talking about expanded metal in where the fwlasz is not project callure will have protection and a roof instead of a back glass you will have a back bar or metal. >> okay. thank you very much. i gis will finish there and say on the refresh plan we should get it assessed in 60 days and slide brought up above minimum score. i like to see all are brought up to 2 points the high score everything looks good and new and fresh our city needs to reflect where we're. need to attract business and customers back and restore trust. thank you very much.

of >> director hinze. >> thank you. i appreciate [inaudible] yekutiel's leadership [inaudible] >> i had a couple questions one and i think a couple for jonathan. i guess prescriptionally i know you said that we were shifting away from 311 complaint based system to more [inaudible] plus the 311 complains with the 311 complaint -- file a -- -- 311 so wla is your standard process with that? are there a certain number of

days or minimum standards held under this contract or you sort of put it in your existing route. what are the minimum standardses a person files a complaint if you could describe the process of what you do after you get a 311 complaint. >> when we get the 311 complaints we turn them immediately over to clear channel and they often get some of them directly. we have went condition tract damaged clause they abait graffiti within a time and replace grown glass in a certain time frame. we are trying to be more prosecute active about it. instead of waiting for 311 calls. 3 times a week and going to identify problems ahead of time

that we will not wait for a 311 call. dianswer your question? >> i think so. we'll be proactive and prevent the need for know 311 and try to get the 311 complaints resolved as soon as possible. >> yes. we want to have an immediate turn around graffiti is fairly easy to clean for clear channel they have an amazing system. they get is off and power wash the shelter so they are nice and fresh and clean and way findings all updated so we have current maps and have our decals for routes in place. and if i'm glad to report become in 60 days and tell you

improvements and plans we have to refresh the shelters. >> yea, i think a follow up hearing on this bench mark. i think we have a couple questions fiscally off the contract. you f jonathan, the -- the refresh campaign um portion of the contract is 3 million dollars? >> yes. >> i just want to sort of see if you have an aestimate of how many of our 1200 shelters we can get refreshed at that sort of -- amount of money that we have in the program? i know you yesterday you said that several of them would be -- [inaudible].

and may be -- [inaudible]. >> so, lisa gave me the estimate they were think burglar that. the estimate is we will handle about 400 shelters completely with the refresh on top of adding new shelters to the system and any cleaning improve ams. that is good that it is nearly a good third of them. >> that is better than i thought. about 400 shelters. >> 3 million is over the course of the size. >> it it is. so again we take an asset management prop we'll constantly evaluate the shelters the condition assess am measures improvements year over year. it sometimes we'll need to replace a shelter or completely fix temperature we do this under the current condition tract but not in a planned way. what happens is we dot daily maintenance. keep wurp that. keep up with health and safety

issues in the field. and lisa said we all know, we get the ridiculous backlog that is the concern of a lot of people in san francisco. what we want to do is not ends up in that backlog. that is good. we will talk about backlog in a second. the whole structure of the service on the mta level and structured the contract metropolitan is to clear the backlog and an expectation as director yekutiel said of anybody using the system as an expectation of the experience. >> okay. >> and this was part of our shelter program [inaudible] the work order was -- um -- you have an estimate of the total number of work orders we have? shelter and health, maintenance and. >> that answer is zero. we have none before we reshaped

the programful learningly completely reliant on clear channel for the w and i think this board and the director of transportation like we need to take a holistic approach to how we do this. with the department of public works, we will w on a work order it clone the streets. lisa on the daily meeting encamp ams and homelessness and participate in this call every morning. so again, we are trying to move this away from a pure revenue administrative condition tract to an operation there it is experience and follow up from the mta. >> do we have a work order to >> we set aside money in the budget when we got the feedback to have the work orders in accomplice. we enhanced existing work orders like with public ws but never set a component for

supplementary support for cloning and needs. >> okay. >>ful i think -- another thing would be approximate make sure we have those work orders in place. and we seem to be setting the 60 day check marx. upon i don't know if it is possible. if we have the work orders we need in place by the 60 days i think that would be a good. >> i will add to the report become in 60 days. perfect. thank you. director cajina >> thank you. i wanted to thank my colleague director yekutiel for his energy. the both of us have experienced a lot of experiences with

transit shell irs. my personal experience i seen caution tape around bus shelters. 311 complaints not addressed for a thousand days. it has been challenging as a rider, member and advocate. i want to start by congratulating jonathan and clear channel and everyone on the board that has put a central focus on this issue. trying to operationalize a better way to have oversight over this process. it has been a pain point forfect this is -- have had an experience riding the bus and new to riding the bus and all the different folks that are engaging with the system for the first time. and so -- it does shape one's

experience. so -- thank you for all the work you have done on this. the wonderful thing about contracts like this, i feel that it it is one of those agreements that really helps us prescriptionalize our equity goals. it is my firm understanding or belief, rather, this every decision this come before us is a way for us to be more truthful and held accountable by the public. sew, this one rings true for me. i want to ask a few questions that i am will story with the backlog is the pooh hope we'll tackle the backlog. and we sort of started the process this fiscal year.

of -- getting the materials can in accomplice to move to this rapidly. pend thanksgiving amendment we allowed clear channel to hold back on payments and use that cash to start buying glass and equipment. so we can do a mass refresh quickly. within the authority we have under the agreement now, we started that process. hoping that you agree to the amendment. but we would not like director yekutiel, we wanted start right away did not want to wait. i think fiperform correct low bob can correctly we purchased 800,000 in glass we are ready for that. lisa knows where the problems are helping with the 60 days. we get out there and irrelevant, realliment to go out and do the work. clear channelments to hoar the crews. we have everything red to go when we get authority from you,

port and the board of supervisors. so we are serious about it. the backlog was a key leadership. how we scaled the refresh campaign where and huwe would get it done we are serious about making happen and encourage the board >> so we have a time line for the assessment if you give one for the backlog. we are running 90 days behind on the backlog. tell be our prior with the first phase of the refresh to clear the become log. that was the intention. and through this contanlt where it it is more than cloning we need to do physical repairs to continue to refresh. bob you want to talk about the backlog? >> we have 75 days of backlog.

this is in place. as january than said. we have gone and have ordered materials were around a million dollars. it is close to a million dollars. in those should land in december here. we will hit the grounds rung with the additional repair people and the otherfects we have you know we are anticipating being able to work through that backlog and get it down. now it will never be this there is in the w to do. ir think we know what it is happening on the streets that we live in, we are part of this ecosystem. well is always things to do, you never know when you will get a spike. any points in time, we have 20-25 days of upon things for those repair crews to handle but get it through quickly witness we get staffed up and have the

materials on hand and have ordered the materials. is this this when you were looking for? >> yes. seems like an acceptable aim of backlog 20 to 25 days. that's with acid etching and vehicles running in the cars that's when we have for run rates with people tapping in the electrical problems. that's when we have when they are breaking cans. there is a legality we deal with i know you are aware and we are prud to make progress and to be partnering with the sfmta staff. i commends jonathan and lisa for their work. >> great. so -- it seems like we start addressing the backlog in december? >> yea. like i said, we we have to wait

for this to get passed we preauthorizationed clear channel to purchase the ximent and hiring the staff. as much work as we do in front of this starting now, you know there are logistics issues we had issues with ordering the glass why we did not want to wit to and ared wait 4 months for the glass to show up we authorized them when the fiscal year started. i think you know 21 days might be much for severe issue. but that's when we have lisa to be in the field and we had issues a lot of people read the issues the 24th street bart station that was at our shelters. there were issues in the bart plaza but lisa was outer there with public health and department of public works and the police department trying to resolve the issues out there. we were able to the do that and

keep it clone and allow people to get access. she, i seriously doubt she will let things go on that long if it it is a severe issue if it it is an add box there are issues approximate on getting that in place. hold us a counselable to what is acceptable then we will work on a way. i say in the 60 days. when you come back to give us a report on the assessment i would love to see the up on the backlog. additionally, with the assess am i appreciate to see an over lay of our equity neighborhoods to understand what the assessment looks like per neighborhood. i have assumptions and idea when is it will electric like. i want to see what the data tells us. in terms of the customer

experience i want to understand more i'm a transit roadway and i see my bus shelter damaged and reported 311 what happens after that? say i see the glass is broken. the glasdz is broken. so they have a short period i think 2 days to make the glass save and 45 days to replace the glass. >> okay >> 45 days i'm telling you because we had pret unrealistic turn arnold time us could not get materials that fast. we can't impact transit we do a lot of the work around nonpeek hours or nonrevenue. and so anything on a rail has. that is -- we doll the best we

comprehend i have no problem reporting to the board on our progress i'm invest in the this. >> thank you. just a moment i appreciate the fact you are part of this, troochlt and the reframing of this. i think that is brilliant and glad we are doing that. i want to understand neighborhoods need more maintenance than others. i want to understand how we are going to implement the flexibility that the contract allows us to have. and also understand what tools in the tool box we have to hold our contractor accountable or agency partners that we partner with accountable to help us in that part. >> you are asking all my favorite questions. >> that it is -- like i said during my presentation. the prior contract is for the ref now and focus order on equality across the system. everything 2 days a week and this. and that is not trough in role

life. there is different use, differents peopleful different neighborhoods than i have different needs. and so00 autoway the contract was written contrained our ability. clear channel staffed and up resourced to meeting that equal distribution of service. it is a win contract our hands were tried to redirect the resources to other yours of the city. we changed that in this condition transact t. is 3 days a week we increased the baseline and added components of the contract allow lisa based on her understanding in the field to change the maintenance routes or times or focus etch or even if we need to do go 2 day in some and 4 in another. we created flex act cross the mag if we want to buy additional mainlies the direction of the board. we have the flexibility on the

contract. we did not before. there is language in the condition transact that if there is a col. certain area we need 5 days a week maintenance. >> walk kneel me through huwe when we need to buy maintenance. like one it set baseline with the condition assess am the journey plan and do that with any infrastructure. lisa is out in the field and getting reportsil talk about her

daily work. >> inform i love here, too. a lot of people don't fay attention to the t line. and, legality of the stuff in the bayview we want to make sure we are not just paying attention to the tenderloin and refresh the bayview as well and want to show if we are advertising by the ballpark we should be doing a better job at sunnydale. they should all nice and clean and look g. cross the city. same amenity in neighborhoods that need they have any other neighborhoods. benches, lighting. lit up map case. all of that. it is my neighborhood. joy will hold you to that.

i want to thank everyone for listening and for structuring this agreement so it gives us the flexibility we need to address the concern for riders and the folks who engage in our simples thank you. >> director heminger. >> thank you. i irrelevant don't have anything on the contract but may be 2 items lisa for your in box the new boss i happening you are right about the glass. and i think we are fighting a losing battle if it remember up it mow i would take the glass out of every shelter in the stele they will all get bust in the boy a combukel head sooner or later tell never rain in california again anyway. second low, jonathan you mentioned i think you were talking about the next bus travel time signs. we are getting a briefing on that the next meeting >> yes, a full update.

>> since you are here and on my minds. when is this going to get done? and could you possibly start with the bus shell 30 is cross the street if city hull? i have been on this board for 3 scombrers that bus shelter had a busted next bus thing that whole time 3 years. and it looks like someone took a flame to it. i got at say had have you that visibility it irrelevant e rods any public faith or tolerance for the whole program. they can't keep the one in front of city hull in good repair. >> i got amazing lipsace this is lisa icing that is lisa walton. i will take that back. we are if any up the first phases largely the technology

infrastructure. we can give role time predictions and fix the tiens we are piloting them you will see them on vaness you in this is the end of the year and got i second fizz in march. we are not only replacing the ambivalenting next bus system but there are a series of enhance ams on top of that. and lisa will give you an update on everything we will do when tell help but toward the ends of the year. my briefing from yesterday around november or december we will kickoff a lot of work. it might be sooner but i'm hedging. tell be before the end of the year >> thank you. >> thank you. >> director yekutiel. >> thank you, sorry to use director hem germ's phraseology taking 2 bites out of the apple. i want to say this before we move further, which is,een though i have been critical of the state of our shelters, i

adopt to make it clear this never for a second do i question the work ethic or the dedication of the staff out there at all hours of the day and night cleaning these delores park this morning at sick in the morning talking to a gentlemen cleaning graffiti off the bus shelter. on 20th and church. i see how heard they work to keep the shelters clone. issue is we have a contract built in a time when san francisco, fringe low, had less to worry about and less knuckle heads breaking this stuff down. it is the right time to review it but never question the work ethic of the people doing this hard work. i had 2 small questions. within the hiring for the additional repair and maintenance workers, when is it supposed to be completed? of hchls is the time line for

this in this contract? i think so much hingeos this. >> we're rung parallel anticipation of this amendment happening. we -- are planning on having 7 people of 12 hired before the end of year and they are team sters they are work nothing other parts of -- our operation. right now. so then we obviously electric to hire 5 additional people. >> great. thank you very much. >> and the left thing i say before i make my amendment is 45 days seems too long to get repairs like new glass and doors special basic infrastructure repairs seems too long. i guess, is there a way that this material could be stock piled so we are in the waiting on new orders or having you know having it so is that 45 days to

get broken advertisement door or nuts falling off. i feel we can do better. >>ive agree. >> what do you think is a reasonable amount of time. gi would not push it more. i think here is like i think 30 days would be i know you would like to see it sooner. but just to be given the amount we have i think 30 would probably be just about -- the tightest we could make temperature i mean -- am i over committing? >> okay. >> may be the -- christine or city attorney can help me i know in the condition transact there is language on repairs. but where it says 45 days if we can mendz that to 30. and if we don't minds adding a request that the assess am of the refresh done 60 days from this vote. and this within 6

months of the vote we have report become on impactly which shelters were fixed and when was done to them. them is a contract fwhlt. i would be interested in finding ways to make sure we incent sunrise rapid riper se and don't want to be unrealistic and set this contract and the bid are up for failure at this point in the negotiations. would you like to speak. >> my recommendation to the board is i think lisa and i and your requests are reasonable and we want to get this started more than anybody. so i would leave the agreement as is. lisa and i can get on clear channel with our authority to make it happen and there are tool in the contract we have not used but we can ooze and bobness i'm good at incentives to make

things happen. my recommendation is that you do amend the resolution and ask the director of transportation, which will pass to us to report become in 60 days on the conscience with update on the refresh and the elements you requested. we can do that. i think that susan the poufrt resolution compel us. we will make it help. >> i still think that i would like additional teeth in this resolution. i would like to see it complete in the 60 days i heard this is feasible. that is something our staff will do with them and asking to report become in sick months to tell when you say has been done. since i don't know how many were fixed and what was done including the backlog i hear this it is feasible it does in the sounds like a point pill. i think what director tumlin is saying don't modify the terms of the agreement that is complex

and impacts our legislative schedule the direction and holding us ash countsable to a report back absolutely. >> in the contract in language does it put in wroitings that it gives them 6 months it hire. why we will tell them no and start now. that we will start tomorrow if you direct that remember. the director of transportation works for you. minus this contract you can direct him it prowse a report on the condition of shelters any time. my recommendation you add a resolution resolve that the director of transportation report become in 60 days with the condition assess ams of all shelters in san francisco and within 6 months report back on progress made around that condition assessment >> agreed. >> that it is fine. i'm happy to do it that way. where i saw in the amendment it says in 30 days the plan is

issue said or other time that is reasonable, that you prioritize the repairs. we will do it. >> the slide deck it said helpful the time to construct the golden gate bridge and mere when after 30 days when the plan is issued. if that's okay. i want to make surety language is snot oomph00 >> we hear your direction. >> okay. and we will act in the direction. we are asking to not moist contract alcohol require a redmo session set us back by months. >> all right. i think that i'm done. thank you, bob for your hard work and the team. thank you. are there items we will open up in we did public comment. >> no we did not >> this it is a different call.

why now open to public comment anybody withhold like to comment on the out door contract. >> i have one speaker card from mark gleeson. >> welcome. >> good afternoon mark gleeson i'm on behalf teamster joint could you think 7 and sister local represents clear channel. teamster's 853. i will start by saying we have a long-term labor harmony completed the 3 year agreement with clear channel. there will in the be those things that will come in the way of this great new project our members are looking forward to. i believe we will have a member testify on the speaker in a minute who does this work. twhoing i like to pick up on is perhaps what -- some have braurt

up today about the work site when our members go to the shelters. what that is their work site for a few minutes or how long it takes. i was going to use the term. street continues we have other teamster venders when face similar. i think i will adapt the jargon to come up here knuckle heads. when memberers work and moving and cleaning and doing the things they have to do, they have their backs turned to difficult situations on the street. and of course noted, it does in the take place during peek time when there a lot of people out it is other times. . so i'm glad this project will come forward i know our members are excite body doing when they can do to make sure

shelters are min tain exclude cleaned best they can and appreciate the fact it is acknowledged that much of when is going on with the shelters is above and beyond what our members can do after they comcloeted tasks. thank you. i'm larry [inaudible]. my family and i have lived in san francisco since then 47. we currently own the hem in the sunset. since 1959. i seen the conditions in the streets of san francisco worsen over the years. whether it is vandalism, drug,

unhoused public, defecation. other concerns. and i watched the city slowly deteriorate even though everyone is trying to do the right thing. a take a walk daily and he a homeless person lori who lives on the bus shell or 31st and noriega she moved during the day. and seeps like she is a wonderful person but and tries to keep the shelter as clean as possible but she has no place to go. i point i'm trying to bring up the shelters are part of the streets of san francisco ecosystem. the bus shelter negatively impact when is hatch happening in the streets. so, i think as we start looking at the jobs and keeping the bus shelters cleand and user friends low, we have a lot of dynamics

we are trying to all deal with. what will is fir for the city. what ask fair for the homeless and fair for people who are working. joof can i want top comment that the sfmta and staff are doing a great deal agreement that they worked out with clear channel. i want to thank them for this. i can see the clear channel in the condition tract is taking a loss they are not getting the monfreselling advertising. so i think the contract is a step in the right direction and urge the board to move forward with approval, thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> great. daved pilpel can you hear me >> yes, we can. why excellent i think this will be it for today i will include my comments for 12. i don't typeset scare anybody i support this and 12 as well.

i think the negotiated terms are good. for both parties. good for the city. gets things we need. i want to thank jonathan and his team. my gosh it is lisa icing from amdover street i lost track of you you are back. can't say enough good things about lisa and lisa walton a pluthera of good lisas. enough about lisa icing i saw robin wright's name on the agreement. so if she was involved in drafting and negotiating that is good as well. nice to see her back. everyone involved in the transit shelter agreement i'm supportive. and then on item 12 i don't have to comment later and get red for the holiday again i support the sgr effort this is the best work in mta thanks to jim and the rest of staff on that.

jonathan for lead thanksgiving effort as well. and that's it. very supportive of both items 11 and 12. thank you, and more fun at the next meeting. have a safe [inaudible] thanks. >> thank you. mr. pilpel. >> are there additional callers on the line? we have one additional caller. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, directors. can you hear me >> yes, we can. >> okay. i'm romero agenda i'm a local 853 teamster with clear channel since 20 men and my job title a shell are maintenance worktory keep up the bus shelters which is essential especially in

rebuilding the trust of the public and use of public transportation. the streets of san francisco is a tough environment. and it seems it got worse since covid-19 came in the picture. there are things we face every time we do our tasks like syringes, needles. graffiti. vandalism. homelessness, drug use. my team and i are always facing issues constant low makes our work dangerous and hazardous. we feel that the contract needs to be rewed address these issues not just for us but the people and the city of san francisco. i'm sure sfmta and clear channel and local team sters rescue noise the issues, i believe this ma'am will not be over looked so

our workers and the city use public transportation daily. >> so we all work together -- my team and i appreciate your consideration and sfment amendment here before you. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. that is the last caller. >> great. close comments directors. director yekutiel. i like to prosecute pose an amendment to the resolution to read as follows:resolve within 60 days of the approval of the condition tract agreement, the sfmta staff complete an assess am of the state of shell and ares motor forms a plan to bring them up to mixture mum condition score a hearing scheduled within 6 mons to report on how many

shell and motor forms were repaired and what level. as well as the clearance of the backlog of repairs. >> second. >> great. >> so with that director cajina. can we add to pesifiy this we want to focus on equity neighborhoodses and some language around that. how about if we part of the report back ask for the over lay of equity neighborhoods how many shell and motor forms were repaired over lay on our equity neighborhoods internal. >> yes. >> yes. the muni equity strategy neighborhoods. >> along with over lay of the muni strategy neighborhoods and when level and the clearance of the backlog of repairs. is that the rit place to put it? okay.

>> yes. >> great. friends low amendment. >> okay. why we will vote first on the amended version with the amendments that you have on the record. [laughter] >> that's correct >> call the roll >> motion to amend director cajina. aye >> director heminger. aye >> director hinze. >> aye >> director yekutiel >> aye >> chair borden. >> aye. >> that motion passes. and the regular original. move the item as amended >> seconded. >> on the motion to approve as amended director cajina. aye >> heminger >>s >> director hinze. >> aye. >> director yekutiel. >> aye. >> chair borden. why aye. >> thank you that motion passes the item is approved. >> next item. item 12.

presentation. >>. and discussion regarding a fiscal and management update including the 2021 state of good repair report. this is something we do every year. testimony is the highlights of my year to present to you our state of good repair report talks about infrastructure. i will start us off with just our 10 year management strategy. something we developed in 2017 and knew it would take 10 yers a component you will get out of the report it is in the what the state of good repair report says annually but the longitudinal data and the changes we see across the system or the warning signs we get around components of infrastructure.

of that start with the u. offer capitol inventory and he do this every cycle. there is a component of infrastructure we take a dive in one year cable cars special updating that. one year over headlines. now we are doing assess am of traffic signals. we are wing to update our active inventory and hierarchy we do this for various types of reporting. we can produce the property. that gets integrated and if the board weres we're if you meany meeting our commitments state good repair all the elements we need to spends dollars on to replace we funded. we do condition assessments the first was our facility in 2016. we are in the press of dog an

upon condition assessment of traffic significant untils and next will do a condition assess am of stations. those other elements we attempted fund and the reason we did that was the condition of those assets are in the where we need them. we need capitol investment in those areas. this leads to project deliver when do we focus on. an example is transit we want to focus on infrastructure. and updating this to our system and jim will talk about this. so, that's the over view. jim moral who is now our principle analyst in the budget office is our acting asset management unit manager. he will gift rest of this presentation. >> good afternoon jim moral. so i gallon through what we do in the unit and when we are

about with the state of good repair report of the fta requires to have a transit management plan. this creates policy keeping states of good repair. mta comp plies and adopted the first plan in 2018 we are working on an update to the plan now which is due this month. [speaking fast] in plan policies we are required to create a your low good state of repair report. bottom line doing these reports and maintaining asset in good repair is good business practice. >> what guess in the state of good repair report? prosecute voids a snapshot estimate condition and replace am value. but comparing asset classes we see data and trendses that help us not the direction we are head exclude which together investments we need to make in the future and the first report

from 2014. what state of good repair in this is an important point reading this will data. asset is in a state of good repair if it prits full level of performance. assets remain effective, efficients reliable and safe we don't operate when they are not reliable or safe. [speaking very fast] why is this important it helps us make decisions under constrained resources. and of course the better we keep our system in a state of good repair our performance matches what the public expects. >> so how do we get the information for this analysis. each year we update the capitol inventory our record of the agency's capitol assets. they near use useful life and

estimated replacement value. receive this information from the owners. the people around whop maintain them and own know the most about the assets and their condition. >> put this data in the capitol inventory and he run a model. a model that gives us a continue based on the age of the assets it is only the age unless the update the cannot assets. i should note that this is going to be the last year we use the term model we procured a new asset invenntoryy currently it it is excel foil we have a new online data base we will use and acsiszed by anyone in the agency to update information. and we can make this process more efficient and accurate. and it come with a model we use to tweak and make more accurate predictions of need for investment over time. we are hopeful 2022 will be the

first good state of repair report with the new model. >> dive in the results of the year's report. here you see the model gives 3 data points. there is the term condition score, within-5 based on the ages of the assets. then the toll replace am value. the replacement value will grow with inflation as we put in the model this year 3.5% is our rate. and then you see the backlog. the backlog is the toll value or percentage of the assets that are beyond the estimated useful willful. that does not money they are out of the state of good repair it means we operate them beyond hug they were intended. here you have list of the asset classes and their replace am

value changes from left year to this year. most of the changes this took place last year are based on escalating the value. in 2021, that was the year that was most affected by covid and did in the deliver as many projects as we would under an informal year. we also one the changes we made this year you will see the motor coach vehicles decreased in have you. this is buzz we retired 33 vehicle fist that fleet which had aged out. most of the other categories you will see have increased with the inflation. here is more on the backlog. there are 2 ways we divide the assets. then we look at everything on a transit service critical or other basis. we fry to focus investmentos what we consider critical.

you will see that for -- that our backlog grew. it is 4 billion dollars in replacement value of assets. majority of the growth of the backlog has been over the past few year for nontransit service critical vehicles we have been maintaining a steady state of backlog for the transit service critical. and below you will see the backlog by asset classes. the highest is the parking and traffic. and i wanted break it out. within parking and traffic we have the actual structures for ping grojs. that makes up 500 million of the backlog. there is the traffic signals another 500 million of the backlog. and the rest is thermal plastic paint on the streets. a lot of those were put in more

than 7-8 year ago they went in the become log they have a life of 7 years. >> now you see detail on the age score. . something is considered in the backlog less than 2.5 as a term light score. you see here that the arts sets that are most in the jeopardy of the backlog are in the other state of good repair we focus on critical assets. >> and here we have the condition score this is the same thing and broken out by asset class. ure see that our biggest issue are facilities parking and traffic and other systems and vehicles. and i will stress that again

those were the yours we recommended being invested through the general obligation bonlsdz. a lots of the recommendations we made for that bond and investment are areas of highest risk for our infrastructure. and this is one of the data pointses we use to make those decisions. in the bonds, there was a chunk of machine tow deal with the backlog on the traffic signals post the completion of the condition assessment. and on our fasill uts you get an update in november and the investment we need to make in facilities they are over a century old that is an area of risk we maintain a float and electrify the system. we use data to make the recommendations to the public. and these are areas of weakness in infrastructure and continue to be so in the future. this it is good enough here. >> you will see over time if you look at the total this is broken

out over the last. upon 7 years by asset class. you will see that we were holding stead at mid 3's. . this it is a good spot to be. that reflects the last time we got the funds we spent and min tained it at the time. you see that we have were started to drop year over year. this indicates we need to start reinvesting in the assets we have and we need it find a now source of funds to make up the gap. one thing we need to keep in minds we made a commitment that we would spends 250 million dollars a year in state of good repair spending. over the next 20 years. 30 years. we were on electronic and doing well to get to that level and this past year we -- did not

deliver or 21 we did not deliver as many because of the pandemic. we spent 164 million dollars that year in state of good repair spengdz. i looked at the actuals the following year we can't determine the actuals until the book close for continuing funds for thissier. it appear we will have spent over 800 million dollars on capitol spending in fy22 i anticipate we'll make up alegality we missed next year's state of good repair report. projected out when we anticipate spending the next 5 year looks we will reach 250 million dollars of spending in fy25. and here is the scary chart that shows how much it would take to get all assets out of backlog. the bottom is our minimum.

the next step up is what it would take to maintain everything as it is without going anymore in the become log. that is an additional 400 million a year. and if we were to reduce half the backlog that would be another almost 600 million e eliminating the backlog is 800 million and nevering a state of good reper se not a brand new everything wee replacing over time when it will age out. would be 900 million dollars a year. we need to look at the numbers realize the hole we are in is big but with targeted investments we can make a dent and make sure we maintain the repairs moving forward. thank you we will take questions you have.

>> thank you. >> director hinze? >> [inaudible]. thank you. for thorough report and also for meeting with me yesterday to sort of going through it. questions are met low for jonathan. you talked about past funding sources we just did in the get for various circumstances. it have other funding sources [inaudible] tow fill this gap and also make up referring to due to -- [inaudible] [echo,

hard to understand]. to reminds the public prospect a on the ballot in june, right now prop l is on the ballot. which has to do with the transportation sales tax, that is those dollars which were the former prop circumstance transportation sales tax. those go to state of good repair for some of the assets in this report. this is something this is on the ballot and in the past has funded and the current plan proposed to put machine net assets we are talking about in this report. >> thank you and then for me personally i would be interested in. look at your deep dive and the public will be interested in the deep dive on the traffic signals. i know that is an issue for the

tenderloin and i know this unfortunately, there was money in the bonds for that and for me the traffic significant until -- [inaudible] i think this would be good. i don't know if there needs to be [inaudible] i would be interested in lookinga the that and upon just to make sure this we do to cover again that we are on track to spends a specific amount on state of repairs [inaudible] that -- all -- um -- looks good. our facilities -- will getting an update on that and -- future

meetings. i was curious about the cable car asset because of the age. i'm curious that must be drag down our state of repair and like i know that it is hard to keep up well is only one other than -- how do we approach keep that in good refair and what would it take for it to be in a state of good repair? and how could we possibly go -- >> that is a good question. so, there are some assets we have and jim brought that you want. than i are on going, right. we go through a program we have

our cable car shop that builds cable sxars renews them and mcgonigle regular dollars to do so. we have assets the subway stations where they have a useful life of 75 years but not blowing up market street pulling the bok out and rebuild we will have a full renewal campaign. that is how we keep thap in a regular state of good repair with cable car, julie our transit director and i have been looking the electrical system needs an up grid it it is beyond the useful life and use third degree report to inform our move inspect scoping out this project the cable car barn is beyond the useful life in facilities category and as we shut down the cable car to fix this infrastructure we look at the electronic and right of way to will try to if i can the system to do that. a comprehensive cable car

program has not occurred since 19 eighty-four. director tumlin asked federal gentleman in the pedestrian they provided the large share of dollars. there should be a federal role in it we are active low looking at it using this data. which is when we should be developing program targeting how we can best in a resource constrained world tarrant county, texas the infrastructure this needs the investment now to guarantee the sufficient use of the system daily that is how we deal with cable car we will provide you briefings on cable cars. we are working on it. >> that's right. >> i might add this it is a very important thing for us that as you 99 prop athe burlk of the expenditure plan focusod state

of good reper se for existing system and making more reliable the loss of prop awas a huge set become for maintaining our existing services. and. so far in light of loss of prop a we are working with the state and federal government to ensure that projects like state of good repair are eligible for federal and state capitol investment. and this we are targeting our best projects for say and federal funged. i was meeting with formy mayor this morning infrastructure and job's act. making/khrer our local priorities including investing in the western edition community safe streets project for the safe streets for all grant program. this is a package of upon investmentos state of good repair for significant untils

and upgrading the technology and walkability and focus on safety in low income community. we have been directly marketing to state and federal gentleman it make sure our priority projects are eligible and we don't just focus on a handful of large expansion projects but also focus making secure existing systems work well using our friends in boston as a cautionary tail. this ask where we will be if we don't identify new funds. >> and my last topic area was our quick build. i think the quick bill is you in. there will be a lot of things --

will be need to keep in the state of good repair and assume that things like paint and [inaudible] or frequency repairs so i would urge my clothes and staff to start to think about the -- that as a need. because we need to invest in because that might be more short term.

this is something we need to think about you see parking and traffic infrastructure is now the highest area of backlog. and we need have conversation busy resources necessary to take care of that. >> good afternoon. tom mc guire. to dig deeper the thing about state of good repair of the traffic asset in the city is the same resources we use to meet general public requests for service. 311. refresh crosswalks and things are used to the same labor force and resources maintaining the state of good repair.

had is not a large program this can be chunked out and -- dealt with on a different time line. replace am cycle for paint is more frequency. we want to make surety program is to experiments with the temp refer materials to figure out with the public's feedback what the plan for the street and find the federal funds. to make it permanent and concrow we are working on different tracks >> thank you. >> thank you. director heminger. >> thank you. madam chair. helpful if you could bring up slide 12. by the way if we want to fix the

cable occur we need another democratic national convention that might do the trick. i want to thank our planner in the management unit who helped to put this report and this information together. jim, slide 12. >> so. acum questions and then a larger comment. we have been buying a lot of vehicles lately. and i'm surprised the number the in the 2021 comum is that low when we bea new bus is it a 5? >> starts as a 5. >> can you explain yet buss and rail vehicles are low? something has to drag down the average there are a lot of new buses on the street. why there are still it is a we do a good job with the fleet in appropriately purchasing new.

and retiring old at the right time. you are going to seat older buses as they reach the score start to be retired. but they are in use during this time of so at any point have you bus from five down to 2.5 should dh is the appropriate way to turn over. >> it seems to me we bought bus and lrv's lately in bunches. >> you are reading this correct low there are 3 elements that are help nothing 2021. the first is you will remember tranceit and julie here has brought the condition tracts it start the mid life overhauls on the float. so a lot of those new vehicles are starting to hit mid life their scores down. we are in the milthsdz of peek fleet replace am. jim is talking about the seconded come ponent we are keeping old vehicles in service part of the reason is we have

been doing bus bridges related to the rail projects those are on property and those will be the lowest component of the score. plus the vehicles are end of useful life they are really that within 51 vehicle system drag down the numbers so 3.4 in light of that actually is not bad y. that's not the only thing they are dragging down. 3.for you is in the that bad we want it in the happy medium. i expect. replace ams tell tip up. once they are gone the numbers will bounce up. >> yes. why in a normal cycle they will bounce up. >> the other detailed question is train control. alcohol is -- the highest scoring item in 2021. and this is the twhn julie keeps telling us. mr. foremany disks and huwe hold on. and it is the best score?

>> go ahead. gi believe the decision was made a few years ago to reflect the fact a condition assess. that these are operating as they are intended to we reset the score. so -- it does in the reflect. >> yes. pay no attention to that number a lot has to do. don't put it in your slides i recall in the last report we gotta out. one the useful life of a system like that is ridiculous based on technology changes it is in the project cal. and when we have been doing julie she said based on state of good repair we have a functional system on the on going renewals in the existing relationship with talityis. plus i now system for central subway the function out like jim said in a state of good repair

is efficient and does it runt way we want? for this, good call igin that line. jonathan's first point is important, this was assessed like a bridge and a 20ier old bridge is awe some. a 20 year old computer some less awesome. so this is something. that's a thought for the day. you should it is is fir. it makes me wonder on a couple but -- it it is against my purpose here i want to make a broader point with the numbers. if you look colleagues at the

totals. the trends is in the good. and -- the next stop after 3 opinion where are is 2.9. which i believe is marginal example we don't want to be marginal. and look i know it it is.1 points. between 3.zour and 3 opinion 9 it feels like we are crossing a rubicon in reverse. and you know jeff, i compliment you for trying to make sure we right the wrong of having the federal program especially so focused on -- new stuff and in the stuff. in the bay area where i ouzed work and before i worked there, the policy was fix it first. and so we take advantage of that flexibility. and put a ton of that money almost all of it not guilty last

20 years. to maintenance. it is not enough. i coming over the life of the bob measure. but we gotta figure out a funding source we can rely on better yet, this this board could control. weave could take care of this incredible asset. that san francisco owns. i know we had scattered conversations about what to do next. may be one question before i ask jeff for i comment. prospect l is really just it is in the a new tax.

prop l extends the half cent sales tax. what it allows the transportation authority to do is creates a new expenditure plan alighthouse borrowing and financing beyond the 20 there are period and different prior and they heavily focus on state of good repair. we financed and used the sales taxes will in the currents plan for fleet replace ams and used them to zero. currently in the sales tax program the current program says we are zero. >> you are using a slice of the. city sales tax for this purpose y. transportation. >> right. >> that's disconditioning in

prospect l? >> creak are you counselling on that machine in your improve am plan. jot concern c ip and 5 and 30 year financial plan assumed prop circumstance the existing sales tax stays. no reason to believe otherwise. the question that the voters are being asked is do you want to extend this thing so you buy more things, rit? >> it is more than that the tax continues for i decade weather people vote yes or no. we exhausted critical funding categories in the expenditure plan. if prospect l does in the pass the machiney piles up in a poil we can't spends on key categories like float replacement and paratransitit. say that again this is the challenge with prop l. the sales tax continues until 20

there are. regard will of what people vote. >> right j. we exhausted however critical ecpend tour plan categories. so we have to over spends in other places because we got the tax exists but the machiney will pile up and not be accessible. >> right. >> there is an ecpend tour plan today that assumed a component of sale it is tax to certain elements the county transportation authority can finance against future sales taxes for bonds to pay now. you always same money paying for borrowing then and there the i know you know in than the cost of escalation on a capitol project. when the new expenditure plan does is gos 20 thirty-four and beyond allows the mta as one organization the d. public ws to access the sales taxes you and

you alone. the text stays the same. a new ecpend tour plan. >> and i apologize for going on a bit here. i'm asking whether this board can be involved in a plan c effort. we would gent raise funds may be not the right phrase but off the grid. you know now everything heads to the bell on the. everything heads to the board of supervisors. and i do believe that we have some independent authority to raise funds this we are not using. or not using fully. and i know you had a good debate

with the city attorney's office about just how broad that portfolio might be. and i would appreciate a report back about where we are on this subject but more generally what is our plan if we lose 2 in a row. >> that's right. we will need to take something to you before then of the calendarier in the event that prop l does in the pass or else we risk having to start schifrng shrinking muni again. we are eager to have that discussion when we hear after the november election. we have been developing plans for all possible continganceies as staff. can we get something on the ping idea we have been batting about. why yes. but never get to a yes or no. seems to be a may be.

we will front to you options when we mido under our authority and collaboration with the board and the state and collaboration with voters. we have alots of options and i think we are all committed to making sure that the over all transportation system mounty continues to recover because our recovery is essential for the city's larger economic recovery as well as the economic recovery of our residence dens and small business orns who have been impacted by covid >> thank you. >> thank you director cajina. >> thank you. i had a question slide 9. the assetback log detail. can you explain a bit to me to the public as well like what

over head costs entail? >> those are over headlines the system for the materialy coaches or light rail vehicles >> not like -- yea. >> [laughter]. >> and so i did have questions about the backlog. and understanding what is like industry standards. i imagine we are supposed to have something when are we performing well? on trends? below trendses? i want an knowing on that. why let me start with one thing is i congratulate jim and phil and the team i do think that we set the national model on this as a department of transportation and as a transit agency. we made, this slide is important because -- in 2012, we made it

clear this was the commitment this jim talks about to the fta we focus resources on transit service critical assets and done well in this your welch got a new fleet and the reliability of the system went up. invested, lot in rail replacement and well terval, twin peeks tunnel. we made the victims and seen value in making them but we ignored the other. again we only have so many resources to designate to that. at some point the supportive infrastructure elements like turns in a crisis. ping and traffic and signals have been this for us. only major source of on going ref now for traffic signals is the sales tax and roughly 3 or 3 and a half million dollars a year.

every year we fall further and further behind it is why we are doing the condition assess am now we need to figure out where they need to go. traffic signals benefit everyone. a safety component. a component for drivers to keep streets safe. and when we upgrade the technology, you know in the only the mass arm and control are and cond wit we have signal prior for transit and public state vehicles fire engines and the police department like we want to add that technology but we gota if i can the infrastructure. that's the opportunity we have to do that and again -- we use a lot of our revenues on the frontline service things but this other infrastructure facilities is within we talked about cable car we are falling behind.

traffic significant in thes to function to keep the city moving whether or not there is an merge we need to have this infrastructure in san francisco. so it is why we do this report. it is so you have the information you need when we make improvement decision and it is board did fully fund those -- every year we identify the useful life and the investment requirement. this board chose to fully funds those needs the next 5 years the first time we have done this. but again the backlog grosseen when we make that decision. that again become what is director heminger talked about how we get the resources. state of good repair is in the a shiny new thing. it is heard for the public to comp henldz in investing in the infrastructure. doing this report and showing the data is important part of

educating and getting people to understand that. in terms of educate whatting would be helpful is toful desegregate the state more around the understanding the asset condition scores for high injury corridors and equity neighborhoods. it would be helpful to understand where is the investment going and needed? and again trying to state the policies we have in accomplice. >> so when we complete our traffic condition assess am tell be done the time of the board workshop. so i think we have all the data with the capitol projects we have planned,ment to fund to the bond and the updated did thea from the condition assessment we

can have a large are discussion with you that time. >> great. i think we still have our vision zero priorities and want to make sure the corridors have all the different tools in the tool box to make sure we are addressing those needs. and we have our equity goals as well. right? so these are 2 policies that are guiding our victims and huwe make them. and so we are going to have difficult decisions and wonder to feel have those informing those things. >> absolutely. >> great. other questions from directors before i open public comment? now open to public comment. time for members of public it comment on our state of good repair report. >> lack of funds. if you are in the room approach the podium no one is running forward i will go it online. anyone on line who would like to

comment. press star 3 to speak. >> we have one speaker in the queue. >> first speaker? >> this is [inaudible] just a general observation. over all, i believe extra projects like the subway, jfk drive the [inaudible] and they drain the resource of the mta. that's one reason why you have this deficit. other thing is that you need [inaudible] of [inaudible]. that applies to the lrt and lrv's and motor coaches applies to trolleys. this is a growing population with growing needs. and this is something that is

not reflected in this project and also you refer to muni as an incredible asset. it is. being progress approximateively devalued by other projects and the other out lays and for this reason i'm not going to vote for this bond. until role improve am seen with the vehicles to the fleet. and more transportation resources instead of the other projects my vote will be no and i will encourage others to do the same. thank you. >> next speaker, please. there are no more callers in the kwu y. we will close public comment. >> so -- that was an informational, >> correct. anything else, directs

>> next item. >> i have one thing i understand even if we fund because things over time are depreciate and getingly western down, i feel we need to finds a billion dollars the full amount a one time that is happeningly we are funding the full aim of when we need and not solving the problem every year things are falling apart. i say you know had is the 90 sick million dollars one time hail mar tow start fresh?things. i say you know had is the 90 sick million dollars one time hail mar tow start fresh? 900 middle is what it would take each year from now on forever. >> yes. >> its okay. it is not reasonable. it should not be expected it is the reason we give this statute

is to show of when it would take. >> what it would take to get everything the way it should be. one of the stats we give you is the become log if we were it replace everything we needed to replace that would be 4 billion dollars. plus the step this is we need to do now, right. yea. in the next year. just closing our backlog of things that are beyond useful life is 4 billion dollars. and growing. >> okay. >> all right. thank you. any final things. seeing 99 we close that item and move on to the next item. >> item 13, discussion and vote for code 67.10 d invoke attorney/client privilege and conduct a closed session.

>> we will take public comment on us going in closed session. i don't see anyone in the room. is there anybody on line >> i see no peeshgs in the queue. >> we will close public comment. is there a vote. >> motion to go in closed session. >> second. >> call the roll y. on the motion to go in closed session. >> director cajina. >> aye >> heminger. aye >> hinze. >> aye >> director yekutiel. >> aye. >> chair borden. >> aye. >> thank you the motion passes >> chair borden, we are ready. why great. >> we reconvened from our closed session now item 14 >> announcement of closed session the board met to discuss the case with the city attorney no action was taken. >> great. our next motion not to disclose.

>> item 15 >> motion not to disclose. >> seconded. >> call the roll. >> on the motion to not disclose direct caheminger. aye. >> director hinze. >> aye. >> director yekutiel. >> aye >> chair borden. why aye. >> thank you the motion passes and concludes the business before you today. >> our next meeting, october 18th. see you then, bye.

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