>> hello. madam secretary, please call the meeting to order and call the roll. >> thank you. [roll call] >> we have a quorum. >> call the next item- >> sorry. due to ongoing covid-19 health amendment and recommendations by department of public health and orders of social distancing and lifting restrictions on teleconference

this meeting is televised by sfgovtv. for those watching live stream the is a brief lag between the meeting and what is viewed on sfgovtv. behalf of the commission and like to extend thinks to sfgovtv staff and puc staff. if you wish to make public comment dial 1-415-655-0001. meeting id-24978576609 pound pound. to raise your hand prez star 3. you must limit comments to the topic of the item discussed unless you are speaking under general public comment and if you do not stay on topic the chair can interrupt and ask to limit comment to the item. ask comment be may in civil and respectful manner and refrain from profanity. direct comments to commission as a whole. i like to

announce items 8, 9b and closed session will be removed from today's agenda. madam vice president. >> thank you for calling the first item i like to anounss announce had san francisco public utility commission owns and are stewards of the land within the historic territory of the (inaudible) also recognize every citizen residing within the greater bay area has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation of the alone tribes of original lands. before and after san francisco public utility commission founding in 1932, it is vitally important that we not only recognize the history of the tribal lands on which we reside, but

also acknowledge and honor the fact that the oloan people have established a working partnership with the san francisco public utility commission and are productive and flourishing members within the many greater san francisco bay area communities today. madam secretary, please read the first item. >> first item is item 3, annual election of officer. discussion and possible action to elect president and vice president to serve one-year term as per the san francisco public utility knhigz rules order rule number 6. >> given we expect our 5th commissioner to be installed in the next couple weeks i like to suggest we move to continue the election of officers to the next meeting when we have the full commission present. can i have a motion and second is ? thank you. madam

secretary, please roll the call. >> commissioner maxwell seconded. on the motion to continue- [roll call] you have 3 ayes. >> thank you. madam secretary, could we read the next item. >> item a4 adopt renewed findings to allow hybrid inperson meetings during the covid-19 emergency and direct the commission secretary to agendize similar resolution at a commission meeting within the next 30 days. i open public comment. >> thank you. >> members of the public who wish to make 2 minutes of remote public comment on item 4, please press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. do we have any members of the public present who wish to provide quaument comment on

item 4? do we have hands raised for item 4? >> madam secretary, we have one caller in queue. >> caller, this is for the state urgency legislation. >> caller, i unmuted your line. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, caller, go ahead. >> great. david pillpel, i have nothing on item 4 but believe you did not ask for public comment on item 3. thanks for listening. >> thank you caller. madam secretary, no other callers. >> thank you. as far as public comment on the continuation, i was advised by our legal counsel we do not need to call for public comment on continuation of the item. next item is item 5, approval of the minutes of september 13-sorry-we need to vote. >> can i ask for motion and second to approve item

4? >> move to approve item 4. >> i second. >> madam secretary, please call the roll. [roll call] >> you have 3 ayes. >> item passes. madam secretary, please call the next item. >> next item is item 5 approval of the minutes of september 13, 2022. >> can we have public comment please? >> members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 5, press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. any members of the public who wish to provide comment on item 5? seeing none, any callers with hands raised for item 5? >> madam secretary, we have one caller in queue. caller i unmuted your line.

you have two minutes. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, i can. go ahead. >> great. i have not had a chance to review the minutes but it appears the minutes are from the last meeting of september 27 and the agenda states that this is approval of the minutes of september 13. given the date is wrong i encourage the commission to continue the matter to the next meeting where it can be properly agendized and i believe public comment should have been in order on the continuance of item 3. thanks for listening. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, there are no other callers in the queue. >> thank you, public comment on item 5 is closed. any further discussion colleagues and do we need-- >> (inaudible) >> given the error in

the agenda item we probably should continue the approval of the minutes for the september 27 meeting to the next commission meeting. >> move to continue the item. >> i second. >> thank you. madam secretary, please call the roll. [roll call] >> 3 ayes to continue. okay. >> item will continue. madam secretary, please call the next item. >> next item is item 6. general public comment. members of the public who wish to make 2 minutes of general public comment on matters within the commission jurisdiction and not on today's agenda please press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. any members of the public here present who wish to provide general public comment? seeing none, mr. moderator do we have callers with hands raised for general public

comment? >> madam screert secretary we have multiple callers in the queue. first caller, go ahead, you have two minutes. >> good afternoon, my name is (inaudible) staff attorney with state of california (inaudible) i grew up in the bay area and (inaudible) calling to request the puc reevaluate it design draft to [difficulty hearing speaker] 2.7 million bay area residents (inaudible) due to low percentage of unimpaired flows. (inaudible) because of water divergence it is getting small (inaudible) this

leaves the watershed unlivable for many specious (inaudible) impact disadvantage communities. increase of (inaudible)

acknowledging the land we are, which i appreciate but does not (inaudible) >> sorry, caller your time expired. next caller, you have two minutes. go ahead. >> this is peter-can you hear me? >> yes, go ahead. >> this is peter (inaudible) i like to well come new commissioner -the salmon will soon be spawning. we actually have canoeing with the (inaudible) first two weekdays in november, paddle with the salmon. we invite you all to

join us. hopefully we'll have salmon this year. (inaudible) requested that environmental metric be included in agendas. he emphasized salmon and it was one year ago and back in march commissioner maxwell renewed that request. we hope we will be seeing those reports this year starting at the next meeting. with the new commissioners i'm optimistic there is a opportunity for new druckz direction with greater collaboration with between sfpuc (inaudible) it is time to make our new year's resolution. i hope we all keep open minds, base decisions on science and facts and be honest and transparnt and most importantly be (inaudible) it was randomly created in the 1990's by combining two of the worst droughts. at the time

demand going into 87 and 92 drought was 293 gallons per day, now it is less then 190. we have the water first policy and recently had the long-term vulnerability assessment that shows climate change isn't going to have a very big impact on the sfpuc. (inaudible) needs to step up and agendize deliberations and vote on the (inaudible) hope the new president will do that. in 27 years since the plan was last updated and the tuolumne- >> sorry caller, your time expired. next caller, i unmuted your time. you have two minutes. hello caller. can you hear me? next

caller, you have two minutes. i unmuted your line. >> thank you very much commissioners. my name is barry nelson with golden state salmon association and calling to welcome you commissioner (inaudible) look forward work ing with you. (inaudible) represent california salmon fishing industry and working closely with environmental groups, environmental justice groups, tribal organizations on a simple but critical problem and that is the bay delta is in terrible shape. you can see that blooms declining salmon runs and frankly the tuolumne river and the salmon runs has the worst record of any river in california in the sierra nevada. flows are a major cause of that. we have real concerns about the lack of scientific support for the puc

positions and real concerns about there equity of the positions you will hear elsewhere. we work closely with commission staff and with other commissioners and we look forward working with all you especially you mr. rivera and we'll share new information as your next new commissioner arrives. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. return to previous caller. you have two minutes. caller, go ahead. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, we can. >> (inaudible) president of golden state salmon association. we represent thousand salmon fishing families throughout the state and i wanted to

welcome new commissioner rivera and just alert you to a couple things. you may be aware san francisco is in the envious position of basically drowning in water now during drought. it is because of the great reservoirs san francisco has in in the sierras. meanwhile, the river downstream of the reservoirs is basically killed. the tuolumne river is not functioning in a natural way. the salmon runs are dead and heard our industry very badly. i am a san francisco native. i grew up with fisherman's warf people producing in the salmon and fishing jobs and schools throughout the city and don't see that anymore but there is something the san francisco pu crurks can do to help this. it is touched upon by prior callers, we just need a little more balanced approach how we handle our water resources so we can keep salmon alive and other natural resources in the

tuolumne river basin. also, i like to echo what you heard earlier, that it would be great for san francisco or sfpuc to withdraw the lawsuits it has against the state and also sfpuc lawsuit is based on a anti-environmental rule set up during the trump administration so commissioner rivera this may come as a surprise to see the city of san francisco basically bringing lawsuits based on world view according to donald trump, but in fact that is the case. i invite you to look into this and we look forward working with you. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> yes. good afternoon. my name is joe coffee and i live in san francisco. i too wish a

happy new water year to you all. may it be a good year. we celebrated another holiday yesterday, indigenous people's day. president biden in announce proclaiming october 10 as indigenous people to do, we have more to do to lift tribal communities from the shadow of our broken promises, protect rights to vote and access other rights of the opportunities (inaudible) water rights is is a notable example of a wrong done to indigenous people. california indigenous people liveped along california rivers from time of memorial. when our european ancestors and others arrived they assigned rights to that precious resource among themselves and left indigenous people out. i recommend you heed president biden's advice with respect to indigenous people rights to water because it is the right thing to do for the tribes involved and indigenous people have a much better

living in harmony with their environment. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i have unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> i am (inaudible) palo alto. thank you for your service. it was 12 years ago the water board put out the analysis of the (inaudible) including the tuolumne. it was 6 years ago the state water board then president felicia marcus asked the sfpuc moran to support it bay dealt aplan. the answer was no and as you know the sfpuc filed litigation against the bay delta plan. during the last 12 years, there is no action taken by the sfpuc that resulted in improvement in the tuolumne salmon population. the small number of salmons continued to decline and so far this year through october 9 no salmon have been counted on the

tuolumne as reported. the commission spent a fair amount of time on matters related to the plight of the salmon the commission has not taken action with a positive impact. if you look at the charts my letter dated october 7 you will see the trend line for the tuolumne salmon population declines (inaudible) luckily they are still able to hang on. are we willing to let the tuolumne salmon to go extent for waters we will never fully utilized and statistical analysis say we never will? please make it priority to turn past deliberations into tangible actions that benefit the salmon. one small step is have a salmon count added to each drought condition report. i hope you find as a new beginning and improve the plight of the salmon and most importantly reduce the environmental impact the water we take from the sierra. such water should become a great responsibility cht . thank you.

>> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> commissioners, i have been watching intently (inaudible) we need commissioners who care for what the public commenters are speaking to you and you are not listening. the water in hetch hetchy was stolen. it belongs to the indigenous people. they are the wisdom. i said before, who will speak for the salmon? you commissioners do not

have the wisdom. you need to invite indigenous tribes and listen to them. you commissioners are greedy. greedy isn't going to take you anywhere. (inaudible) you don't follow the (inaudible) so, commissioners, if stacking the commission with (inaudible) we still have (inaudible) thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line and you have two minutes. >> thank you. my name

is pamela cotton and also like to welcome commissioner rivera and hope this brings new blood to the commission so they listen to the people, take a tour yourself. the tuolumne river is dying more and more all the time. yes, we are in a drought, san francisco is hoarding water. people in your city have cut way back on their water use to help the whole state. you all seen self-centered and proud of yourself for helping other areas go dry and your own delta is toxin right now and that's because the flows have not been there or been allowed. i think this committee would be better served to look to the science and quit looking up the old

people who stand up the design draft that is at best a joke. please, look into it. the salmon are suffering, the river is suffering, and people like myself who live close to the tuolumne are suffering. we can't just go down and splash around in the water because there isn't much. so, i would ask that you all seriously take a deep dive into the science around this and make changes. commissioner rivera, we hope for your help in this as the past ones have fallen on deaf ears. thank you for your time. >> thank you for your comment. madam secretary, additional callers have joined the queue. we have 19 callers remaining. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> my name is nancy

arbuckle, i live on hyde street in san francisco. we can both restore our eco system and have a reliable water supply. san francisco will not run out of water. san franciscans care deeply about the environment and water conservation (inaudible) among the great majority in the bay area. i believe the sfpuc underestimated the motivations their constituents to conserve water and violated they trust. people can serve water expecting the actions to benefit the environment but during 2012-2016 that did not happen. the environment and specifically the tuolumne river and the eco system lost out. the water we all conserve was held behind dams and had to be dumped in 2017. this pattern of hoarder water repeated over the last 3 years and the sfpuc has more then 4 years of water

in storage. much of the water will likely have to be dumped as well. the sfpuc needs to stop opposing measures san franciscans support. sfpuc policy needs to reflect the environmental values of the constituents and begin the process of restoring the san francisco bay delta and the rivers that feed it. people want to conserve water but not for commercial development. san franciscans have and will continue to eagerly conserve water for the environment. we can fill our reservoirs and protect our environment. it is time the sfpuc embrace this win, win situation. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. i unmuted your line. >> hello commissioners and thank you for your time and attention. my name is danny (inaudible) organizer with the san francisco bay chaptser sierra club to express my concerns for the

commission lack of attention to environmental justice and tribal (inaudible) the commission before the meeting acknowledge the land they sit on, but that seems to be as far as the acknowledgment (inaudible) of indigenous people not only in san francisco but far beyond as well. issues like dwindling salmon population, lack of access of water. (inaudible) i want to urge the commission to stop hoarding water. stop hoarding water out of here and look at the science and data to make these critical decisions. i ask you prioritize the health of our rivers, the health of the salmon as they are keystone specious and prioritize equitable water use. san franciscans

demonstrated the desire to conserve water and be environmental responsible of the land and center equity. i ask that you represent our values and our efforts in your decision making. thank you for your time. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> hello. my name is (inaudible) i live on the san francisco peninsula and a sfpuc customer receiving hetch hetchy water. thank you commissioners for your service to the community and for hearing the comments from your constituents. just as an aside to the secretary, i think it is helpful when you announce each speaker on the phone if you say their phone number or part of the number so there it is more clear who is called up. we just celebrated indigenous people day and started the meet ing with the

acknowledgment. indigenous people (inaudible) and the river and depended upon salmon for their livelihood. the sfpuc is responsible for the river is not caring for the river. the water flows out of our dams are too low to support the salmon populations. you are holding back water based on unrealistic water use projections and (inaudible) salmon populations plummet ed on the river due to unfounded fears of what might happen in the future we are killing the salmon today and creating a environmental financial and social catastrophe. we had a huge bloom in the bay that killed millions of water creatures and the deadly incident was made worse by inefficient water flows from the river. i would ask you to please increase stream flows below the dams to levels to support the salmon. i ask you

to drop your suit against the bay delta plan which is based on sound science and help the salmon population to recover. need to increase the use of recycled water by directing (inaudible) it tasted like water. it was fine and healthy. increasing our use of recycled water we can reduce the newterant load on the bay and increase river water flows. we need the new existing commissioners to take seriously-- >> thank you for your comments. a moment madam secretary. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two

minutes. >> my name is michael cross, i'm a hetch hetchy water user, and a massive network within san francisco of people that are politically motivated and very very interested in addressing some of the problems manifesting in our environment. money doesn't grow on trees but it does flow down rivers. money or the market is (inaudible) and doesn't align with a finite world or external cost, such as water quality, healthy eco system et cetera. one of the other callers mentioned this extensive study in 2012 the bay delta plan and sfpuc hasn't supported that but if we take a look back over the last 10 years we had multiple dry years and water hoarder by sfpuc. we had a few

wet years multiple blooms and catastrophic decline in not only salmon but micro organisms as well. every unit of water you have billions of micro organisms that support the whole eco system. a-i went to business school what i learned is understand the landscape. don't look at puff pieces or bad forecast but do the homework is and understand what is happening and when you make investment intrest never dip into principle (inaudible) good luck, please assign value to the water in the tuolumne river and bay delta. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, 14 caller remain. next caller i

unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> hi. my name is patty (inaudible) my family moved because of the dust bowl and we moved to california we moved to stockton and fresno and i (inaudible) and now we have family there and watching what is going on with the delta and the algi. i know how hard it is for the excisioners to try to balance giving enough water and make sure we are protected as community members, but also understanding what it is doing to the environment in stockton and fresno and all the rivers. i hope and understand what the problem this is, but (inaudible) responsibility . we have enough water reserved, 4 years and we don't need to be hoarding it anymore and we need to start thinking about the people in the other areas

because we are-your duty is to prckt us, make sure we have water and also feel as a community member our obligation is also help the environment and people along the rivers that where we get the water from. thank you very much and welcome to our commission is and hope you enjoy it and learn and we (inaudible) thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> thank you. i'm (inaudible) last thursday the u.s. fish and wildlife service announced proposal to list the san francisco bay population of the (inaudible) as a endangered specious. note, this is not the delta smelt, which may already be extinct. this dramatic decline like that of a essentially all our

native fish specious that depend on the bay delta system and tributaries like the tuolumne is all our responsibility. in explaining the announcement the fish and wildlife service stated, habitat loss due to reduction and alteration of fresh water flows into the san francisco bay estuary is the primary threat. the threat to smelt, a threat to delta symmet, it is to the different salmon populations. i ask you, the commission members to change the amounts and times that we divert water from the tuolumne. instead of blocking the state water resource control board efforts to slow this disastious decline of the river jz the wildlife that depends on them

take the lead and implement the bay delta plan now. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> hi. thank you. thank you all for your service. my name is martin gother and i is a general comment about sfpuc management of the tuolumne river. i continue to be deeply troubled by the poor ecological state of the tuolumne river and san francisco bay delta. tuolumne in particular is worse off then any other central valley river as mentioned. they are managed by other water districts. sfpuc needs to represent the environmental values of san francisco and bay area residents and (inaudible) bay delta water quality control plan. the design drought which drives water decision doesn't represent good science but at the heart of the track

record. for many decades the tuolumne is starved of yet adequate flows and population fish and wildlife plummeted. the life 06 of the river is clearly at risk. scientifically informed drought would include new information become available over the past few decades. many of you heard a lot of the information which to be honest is starting to feel like wasted time. little evidence is presented to support the validity of the drought in the current form. the design drought is based largely on worry and (inaudible) which is a terrible way to manage the tuolumne river water. when thinking about this to the water supply you must think about risk to the tuolumne river and bay delta eco system. remember the risk of running out of salmon is far far greater then the risk of running out of water in (inaudible) under current management by the sfpu

c so i ask leadership be shown and the drought be modified to be scientifically valid and drop the lawsuit against the bay delta plan and show leadership for restoration of the tuolumne river. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> hi. commissioners my name is rani fisher, a resident of sunnyvale and consumer of hetch hetchy water and represent the santa clara audubon society. (inaudible) such as recycling, storm water collection

and general sufficiency of use mpts my condo constantly has (inaudible) that won't turn off. sprinkler heads that erupt and flow into drains and (inaudible) pipes that are not fully off so the water constantly dribbles. i report these occurrences to the city and valley water district with varying results and enforcement. regarding recycling, only 9 percent of my water is recycled out of possible 90 percent, which could be recycled. i know valley district is working increasing that, but we could recycle more according to a report of the (inaudible) also, households for water capture in california urban areas could alone provide 4700 acre feet which could be used for non

potable uses such as rain gardens and bio swales. (inaudible) thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller i unmuted your line. >> yes. thank you very much commissioners for letting us comment. welcome commissioner rivera. my name is (inaudible) i grew up fishing-my grandparents took us out. we bonded it and it was a source of food for us. (inaudible) 1976 (inaudible) i'm disappointed in the commission as far as what others talked about as far as

(inaudible) just ignored science and if someone said it is (inaudible) commissioner rivera for new blood and insight. (inaudible) it is not salmon are (inaudible) i urge you to please withdraw from the lawsuit you have against the state, and to please work to (inaudible) once again, thank you and

please do better this upcoming year. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. i unmuted your line. >> hello. i'm (inaudible) president of the san francisco (inaudible) i have several points. the sfpu c is not representing the environmental values of san franciscans. (inaudible) they are helping our region provide a drought that only would they be appalled to learn the water they save is (inaudible) or released from the reservoir (inaudible) stop bothering to conserve. the design drought is over-inflated. other counties rely on the governor guidance and plans for 6 and a half years of drought. (inaudible) even using the 7 and a half year design

drought would give more cushion then other (inaudible) communities along the delta have experienced blooms that killed fish wildlife and pets. (inaudible) >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, we have 9 callers remaining. next caller i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon. my name is mary betterwick, a san francisco resident

over 30 years. i attended several commission meetings public workshops regarding instream flows on the tuolumne river. i remain deeply concerned about the state of the tuolumne river due to mainly inadequate flow release. last year salmon in the tuolumne was an alarmingly low 186. this degree of deg rudition is unacceptable and should be a huge wake up call for the commission. i urge the commission to drop this lawsuit against the state water board delta plan and work with the state to insure flows in the tuolumne are consistent with the instream flow standsards adopted by the state in 2018. these flow measures are needed to provide spring flows high enough to get water to adjacent flood plains provide flows for fish up and down stream and maintain down stream water temperatures low enough to support a coldwater

fishery. in the absence of sufficient flow of measures those included in the voluntary agreement do not work. the commission water management strategy relies on extremely conservative 8.5 year design drought. the modified the design drought to be scientifically val id. the knhigz sun responsive to new request for interested and concerned public. bay area resident such as myself care deeply about the environment. we look to the commission to be responsible stewards of are river increasing flows with the salmon count so critically low we are running out of time to act. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two

minutes. >> eileen bokeen, coalition for san francisco neighborhoods speaking on my on behalf. welcome to the returning commissioners and welcome to the newest commission. apparently san francisco sits on top of 7 ground water basins and 45 square mile west side basin aquifer. there is no online document that concerns the puc conducted official ground water mapping within the city and county of san francisco. it is my understanding that aquifer don't naturally recharge unifully but there are specific points where the recharge is more concentrate. it is also my understanding that concentrateed recharge points should be protected as open space when ever and where ever possible. if not already conducted i urge the puc to use the latest ground water mapic technology for the

ground water assessment. also to use the latest scientific studies how sea level rise will cause coastal ground water levels to rise. a link is provided to a posting on the u.s. geological survey website to a study by the pacific coastal marine science center. new model shows sea level rise cause increase in ground water levels along california coasts. this study was referred to during the recent (inaudible) committee hearings regarding the environmental cleanup at hunters point. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have 2 minutes. i unmuted your line. >> i'm cindy charles a life long resident of san francisco and board member of the tuolumne river trust. every other house in the

city my water bill has a water drought surcharge added every month. yesterday i e-mailed every puc commissioner videos of recorded hetch hetchy water power housing administrative site being watered with over-head sprinklers. one of the videos is from (inaudible) in the tuolumne river canyon. shows of over-head sprinklers used on (inaudible) overspray on drive way and roadways. the the website states we need your help. we ask everyone to continue to use water wisely to help make it through the drought. i have questions for the commissioners. one, are the hhwp employees billed for personal water use and if those are those bills at the same rate sf residents are charged and do they include the drought

surcharge? (inaudible) have water meters (inaudible) three, sf resident have done a great job reducing water use. we now have among the lowest per capita water use in the state. the entity that provides the city with water of acres of lawns kept green all summer long and housing administrative areas. are the commissioners aware there are lush green lawns at every administrative site and every employee home while city residents take drought surcharges and work to conserve avenue drop? reducing water use during the drought is a priority for resident including myself. we are remarkably successful working to reduce water use during the drought crisis but apparently the same standards dont apply to the same at (inaudible) this is not a great look for hhwp or sfpuc. this is not (inaudible) >> thank you for your

comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> hi. my name is margaret (inaudible) and i'm calling on behalf of the salmon and habitat of the tuolumne river valley. i just feel that you got plenty water at hetch hetchy to release more. there is plenty evidence that you got 8 years of water stored there. it would be really nice if you can let the water go down stream and let the salmon come back. they really are on their way out and it is very important that we help save them. i dont have much to say accept please save the salmon. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. 10 more callers remain. madam secretary, next caller, please.

you have two minutes. >> hello. this is mark (inaudible) i have been attending the meetings and watch the bay delta water control plan try to be instituted. the city of san francisco and other agencies delayed the decision by over a year with volunteer agreements. and then once they made their decision, they filed a lawsuit. voluntary means they can be doing it right now. during the last high storm and last october the flows in the upper tuolumne were 7,000 cubic feet per second. the lower tuolumne did not change at all. there were no pulse flows that year for the salmon and the salmon went down to the numbers previous stated, below a thousand. time that the san francisco allows the water to flow through the river

and allow the salmon to live. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. >> hello and good afternoon commissioners. my name is molly colten speaking on behalf of sierra club california the regulation of the branch of sierra club of california representing 500 thousand members and supporters state-wide. wanted to echo all the previous commenters and welcome the new commissioners as well as future new commissioners to the board. this is a great opportunity for the sfpuc to make better decisions protecting water quality and eco system helths now and moving forward and hopeful the commission will take a science base approach to the policy decisions. it was announced the sfpuc and modesto (inaudible) over volunteer agreements for the

tuolumne river. these are not substitute to science based flow standards such as those implemented in the water quality control plan update. (inaudible) not effective to develop and/or implement water quality standards or habitat requirement. i urge the sfpuc to drop the lawsuit and allow the board to dotheir yaub to update the bay delta plan to protect the health of the delta eco system and community. needs to reevaluate the design drought projecting higher demand and produce more accurate drought projections in the long-term vulnerability assessment regarding how climate change can impact water supply. as a previous caller mentioned, the sfpu c (inaudible) at the expense of the tuolumne. thank you for allowing folks to comment and hope you listen to the concerns of the constituents. we are watching and paying attention.

>> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. hello caller. caller, you have two minutes. madam secretary, i will clear the queue. callers, if you have not gone already, please raise your hand again. madam secretary, you have one caller. go ahead caller, you have two minutes. >> thank you. my name

is bill martin a san francisco resident and customer of the sfpuc. also volunteer activist with the sierra club. today i speak as a concerned citizen. yesterday as typical of mondays, fish biosent out e-mail. fish bio is a private company the sfpuc (inaudible) the lead article concern the population surveys of non native fish in the delta especially the 3 specious (inaudible) large mouth bass, stripe bass is and small mouth bass and look for sacramento pike minnow (inaudible) very few salmon make it through the delta and bay to the ocean. they focus on the potential role of the above 4 specious of fish. quoting from the e-mail, the habitat data shows a large amount of study area is ununidated with submerged aquatic vegetation and the few locations without this vegetation typically have low numbers of non native

predators present. they never address why the non native predators are present in these areas. we know why. it st. the same reason for the masses of submerged aquatic vegetation because of over diversion of water. that created a habitat much more friendly to the fish then salmon. fish bio doesn't discuss the most important research in the problem which state the same thing. there isn't enough water in the tuolumne. despite significant investment and habitat restoration, non native predators are thriving while juvenile salmon struggle. of course salmon struggle. they dont have the clean running water they need. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, another caller joined the queue. next caller, go ahead. you

have two minutes. >> hello. my name is mina atkins policy and manager of (inaudible) san francisco chapter operating on oloan land. san francisco bay highest level of newterant pollution of any estuary in the world. the san francisco public utility commission and other bay wastewater utilities don't remove the newterants and wastewater before released to the ocean. (inaudible) treated affluent high levels of (inaudible) san francisco bay is (inaudible) like the red tide experienced. the bay area needs (inaudible) the solution is clear, san francisco and other bay area water facilities can do a better job (inaudible) by committing to investing in wastewater recycling and win win for people and the

environment to also help san francisco to reduce the water consumption so it is less reliant on the main water source, the tuolumne river. every gallon of the water is more water in the rivers (inaudible) supporting salmon and fish populations. (inaudible) all potential pollutants from the water before reuse. the newterants can be disposed of responsibly. (inaudible) city of san francisco (inaudible) san francisco has no plans to make water widely available in the next 25 years. instead the city (inaudible) misguided lawsuits to continue to rely on what is exclusely on the tuolumne river. one of the (inaudible)

>> sorry caller, your time expired. any other callers not recognized yet, please raise your hand by pressing star 3 for general public comment. one more caller has joined. go ahead caller, two minutes. hello caller, can you hear me? >> yes. >> go ahead, you have two minutes. >> my name is karen harwell and the director of exploring a sense of place. a

program we have run for 30 years trying to get to know the nature of the place where we live. (inaudible) and i'm very concerned about the eco system of the bay delta and the tuolumne that spiraled towards collapse. this is a time-florida had its time, we are having our time and we need to actually rethink what is important and what needs attention. this needs attention. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, the queue is clear. >> thank you, public comment-general public comment item 6 is closed. your next item is item 7.

communications. item 7 communications. >> can you call the item? >> yes, item 7. communications. sorry. commissioners, do you have any comments or about the communications that was provided to us? do we need public comment? okay. no comments, so can you call public comment please? >> members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 7 communications, please press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. do you have any members of the public present who wish to provide comment on item 7 communications? seeing none, mr. moderator do we have any callers with hands raised? >> we have two callers in the queue. >> this is for item 7.

>> go ahead caller, i unmuted your line. hello caller. >> can you hear me now? >> there we go. go ahead. >> am i muted or unmuted? >> you are unmuted. >> that was confusing. david pillpel again. 3 items on 7d. i don't know why the franchise compliant report dated august 26 about 6 weeks ago only appear today under communications. in the fuch rf i think it would be great to provide all communications at the next available commission meeting so this could have been the first meeting in september and instead delayed like a month. on item 7e, i appreciate the clean powersf quarterly update. good comprehensive report.

thank you to staff on that, and on item 7f, i believe a principle at one of the listed contractors is a member of the san francisco community college district board of trustees. city college. i don't know how that effects any votes here or at the city college board or that individual's form 700, but i think it is interesting to note that kind of relationship between an elected member of that board and this agency. i'll leave it at that. thanks for listening. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, you have two minutes. >> hello. >> hello caller. go ahead. >> hello. >> go ahead.

>> my name is karen harwell director of a program called exploring our sense of place and i'm very very concerned about the fact that the bay delta and the tuolumne eco system spiraled towards collapse and i wish that we need to actually rethink our attention and what needs attention now. florida had its experience, we are having our experience. >> madam security, the

call queue is clear. >> thank you, item 7 is closed. any further discussions? i just want to acknowledge that i really did also personally appreciate the reports provided in the communications so thank you for doing that. all very informative and useful. next item please madam secretary can you please call the next item. >> item 8 has been pulled from the agenda and anybody who joined 8, 8, 9b and closed session item have all been removed from today's calendar. the next item is 9, report of the general manager. >> thank you madam secretary. item 9a is drought condition update by steve richy. >> good afternoon commissioners. steve

richy assistance general manager for water to give the drought condition update if i can have the slides please. excuse me. so, i'll go slower for commissioner rivera since these are new slides but we see these generally every meeting. the first one is our october 3, 2022 reservoir storage for our reservoirs and it shows hetch hetchy, the largest reservoir in the primary drinking water reservoir at about 78 percent of capacity, which is about normal for this time of year which is a good thing. cherry reservoir is about 89 percent. up country area we have a water bank which is a storage account in don pedro which represent drought protection supply i can go into more detail some other time. it is the one concerning thing on this slide that it is about 44 percent of capacity, so that means that we

have on the order of 2 years of drought protection. 1 and a half years to 2 years of drought protection from that storage volume that is available, so that is the picture of our storage overall. in general we are doing wet better in storage then other parts of the state but much more reliant on storage so operate that way to make sure we do have enough water to survive a drought such as we are in right now. on the next slide we show what is produced by department of water resources relative to reservoir storage throughout the state. their primarily reservoir of concern is the north part of the state shasta and oroville reservoir. the two anchor reservoirs, the big water system frz the state. they are at 33 percent and 35 percent. excuse me, they are about 33

percent, 35 percent of historical average so they are quite low right now and that is what gives the state the greatest concern. on the right side of the slide you see don pedro is about 52 percent of normal, so it is doing better there and that is downstream of hetch hetchy reservoir. hetch hetchy doesn't show because it isn't one of the edge dams throughout the system. but overall the state is definitely in drought as can be seen by the california drought monitor, which is a federal government produced map of every state in the union showing drought conditions and here you see the darker color means the state of drought so the san joaquin valley shows the worst state of drought throughout the central valley and the coast range and sierra so basically all california continues to be in drought and we'll see what the

coming year brings. we generally don't predict out that far but certainly the sense is it may be another lanina year which could mean dry years persisting. as people mentioned in the public comment, we are just past the end of the water year. the water year last from october 1 to september 30 each year. basically it starts to coincide with the beginning of the wet year and wet season of the next year. this shows par tipitation at hetch hetchy. the black line in the middle is the median level of -the dash line at the top is the wettest year we had and the blue at the bottom is the driest year we ever had. you see the red line is below median and it did have some good times but aults dry times but you see a up

tick at the end. we did have rain right at the very end of the summer, which was a little of surprise and certainly a little out of the normal. which is also reflected on this chart, which is basically can a monthly precipitation part for up country area. the red bars are historical median by month and blue bars happened to us in 2022. you can see we all two really big months and other months not so good but right there in september we had all most a inch and a half of rain that came up country. again, that was in that hurricane period where there was interesting precipitation around the state so did get a shot in the arm going into the next water year. the same thing is true of the bay area precipitation, which again had two really big months and others not so big but again, had all most 6/10 of a

inch, which.03 is normal for september so usually bone dry in september but did get rain at the end of the year. if you see the average annual total on this slide, as a annual,b it is 22.8 but we had in the bay area, 24.1 inches so we actually had an above normal year overall in the bay area. it was just distributed in a odd way. this slide shows the snow pack. similar to that other slide the black shows the peaking of the snow pack in april and as it melts we get water from that, and the red line is this year. 2017 is a really big year we had and are then the orange down below 2015 is the lowest year. we were kind of in the middle of the pack with snow pack this year, so it wasn't too bad for snow pack but certain ly it

want anything above average for sure. we always look at two weeks of precipitation forecast. the darker more bright colors indicate forecasting of more precipitation and the lighter areas down the white means none. that upper box is last week, october 3 through october 11 and you see california is mostly white and that's what happened that month, that week. not much happened. there are more colors in this week here, but frankly the way it is actually physically playing out, we dont expect any additional precipitation in the hetch hetchy area this coming-the rest of this week and here in the bay area we are just getting a lot of fog, which is a little helpful but not real rain. this is the one chart that actually is

more interested at this time of year then any because this is when people hopefully can be saving water. what you see here are 4 water years. these are weekly deliveries starting january 1 at the left and going to december 31 at the right hand side. the top one, the gray bar, that is calendar year 2013 which was our last pre-drought demand and you can see we had deliveries up above 270 million gallons per day average during those summer time weeks. 2015 is the orange line down at the bottom. that shows how far we cut back use last or the last drought, so that we had basically no outdoor (inaudible) you can see the lines converge in the winter and spread apart in the summer because that is where we get more irrigation going

on. the purple line is last year, 2020and grown line is this year, 2022. what you see is because of the drought we called for 11 percent reduction among our customers overall, and what that meant was we needed to cut back on outdoor irrigation and people generally did pretty well. you can see there isn't really a big peak in summer, not like 2013 or even 2020, so it is much closer to the 2015 line and in fact right here at the end of summer it has gotten on top of the 2015 line including the next week which doesn't show on there. it is right on top of the orange line again. so people have done a good job reducing irrigation but not by quite as much as we were hoping to get so we are starting to work on evaluation of what we can spect from our customers next year in terms of overall water use and what we can do to help encourage them to

be the wisest water users possible. lastly, these are three tables. i'll concentrate on the lower table of the three, which shows that from the period of july 1 through september 30 basically september 29, san francisco customers saved about 13 percent over the base year. whole sale customers saved about 9 percent over our base year, so that jointly that averaged to about 10.3 percent overall, which is really a good measure but what it indicates to me is that we may not be able to expect as deep a percentage reduction in the future from our customers. may have to think about how we message what we want people to do in potential future drought years which is what we always have to worry about is there a

drought year. one thing as well to note here, does relate to a lot of comments that were made. a lot of comments about san francisco can provide this water for the lower tuolumne river. in the physical system is, we are up stream of don pedro reservoir operated by the tur lock and modesto irrigation district so any water we release goes to don pedro and under control of the irrigation districts so river is managed in a segmented fashion basically by water rights and facilities so that is something that we all need to keep in mind as we think about where we are going in the future. the bottom line here is, we have done a good job of saving this year. we need to be prepared for a dry next year and figure how best to manage that. i would be happy to answer any questions. : >> any questions? i

have a question. >> yeah. >> it is anticipated next year will be another dry year and i'm wondering in our projections how much saving people can do, have we done some forecasting or analysis of what are the possibilities? obviously there are still people with lawns in some areas so wondering what is our strategy as you move to next year and just don't want to be caught off guard. >> right. we are actually working to arrange a meeting with the umbrella for the whole sale customers. the customers generally use 2/3 of water, san francisco uses about 1/3. what we want to talk about is what exact measures can we

put in place. not sure that saying reduce 5 more percent, that may not be successful, but what we see particularly for our wholesale customers is there are 4 customers that use more per capita overall. (inaudible) cal water, bear gulch, (inaudible) hillsborough and palo alto all tend to have higher per capita usage then most of the rest of the customers who are kind of in a clump around the 62 gallon per person per day range. i think what we want to talk with bosco about is looking at measures we can expect everybody to implement as opposed to actual percent reductions. we could have targets for percent reductions, but for example we

may want to look how to best implement system wide irrigation no more than two days per week within set hours which is norm for a lot of water agencies. we can't do that i think unilaterally for wholesale customers but we can probably set up a mechanism like we have a choice. we can ask you to do that measure or we can dictate a percent reduction and we rather not do a percent reduction, we rather get the real action out of people, so that is the kind of options i think we will be talking about so hopefully we can have a good plan by about november about going forward. if next year continues to be dry, here is what we propose to do. >> on the ordinances and development is there thought around that working

can communities- >> sorry, i had a hard time hearing you. >> maybe i have to speak a little louder. i wondering on the policy side, are there any opportunities beyond just conservation around use and sort of reuse around development? new development coming up in those areas. i know last time i asked this of mrs. (inaudible) and she said there are conversations going on but wondering if we need to have a more sort of strategic approach. >> i think that is something that we should be talking to them about and we will be. again, we have the advantage in san francisco of being a health department and a county on top of it. other things are more distributed stow it is more a challenge. doesn't mean it is

impossible by any means but think we need to have more of the conversations. those are generally easier to do in new developments so that's one thing we will be looking at with them. >> okay. thank you so much. >> is there a bottom line? if everyone reached 45 every day per person, would that be-would we be drought proof? is there any amount where we can get where we are better off and not have to go up and down and up and down if we get people to a certain level? if we got down to 3 8 and get people down to 45 or 50, would there be-would that be-would we be able to tolerate a drought and figure out what people could use and how that would work? >> there would be possible to

figure that out and come up with different numbers like that. the challenge would be implementing them and looking at what does that really get us. >> that's what i wanted to know, because it doesn't have to get somewhere automatically. the next day. but if people had a goal, if we could get down maybe devices would be different. we would look at things differently overall. because keep thinking we can go back to the way we used to i think is problematic. >> i think people are clearly-used to not being able to go back to the way it used to. you can see the numbers have come down over the years. the state is going this way. they are looking at reducing the per capita use, but again, they are looking at reducing indoor per capita use somewhere around 42 gallons per person per day, san francisco is there for indoor and outdoor

use. our wholesale customers for indoor and outdoor are typically 63 gallons per person per day so they are probably already there by the state measure so the question you are posing is, can we do better then what the state is projecting for everybody. the answer is probably yes. i think there are innovative things we can do, but each of those steps takes very careful thought about how to implement it. >> i understand, but i think since we all kind of came to maybe conclusion that this is probably the norm with wet seasons between the drought. there is going to have to be rethinking. >> bigger extremes either way. it will continue to happen that way. >> thank you. >> follow up question and i'm not sure if this is in your

wheel house. (inaudible) the entire system, but-just going to pose it. i'm constantly concerned how our wastewater capacity and cost of treatment and all that will be impacted by changing water use, and if we as a utility are prepared for it and again, i know you are not running the wastewater enterprise, but i think this is something we also need to seriously think about as we are dealing with dryer more frequent droughts and hotter droughts and reduction in water use overall. because of the drought and also because of on site reuse and all the reuse happening. something to think about ultimately it is very much correlated and related. >> they are very connected. the wastewater enterprise has been looking at that over the years, and actually

the-(inaudible) an icdotal like there isn't enough water. we need to deal with real numbers because when we look at real numbers you see decrease in wastewater flow s which does require different operation of the wastewater system, but nothing that will break the system. >> if you are prepared and planned for it and know where we are going then we have a strategy in place and we have plans in place. if we are not then we (inaudible) >> as i see the future i think we-you are going to see us look more and more at potable reuse of waste water so we have vested interest making sure there is enough wastewater to feed a potable reuse system. lousy to have a plan and there isn't enough source water to the system to make it work. that would be a bad scene. >> i say if there is

any utility can think strategically and have a forward looking perspective how much and how big that plan needs to be it is us because we have done so much on saving water and reducing our water use and we have a very good perspective on that. i think it is important to kind of as you plan for the future have various scenarios. >> the biggest issue in on the wastewater side is the amount of solids doesn't change so that is core issue. >> absolutely. thank you. any other comments? thank you. >> thank you. >> would you like for me to call public comment? >> yes, thank you. >> members who wish to make two minutes of remote public comment on 9a press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. do we have any members present who wish to provide

comment on 9a? seeing none any callerwise hands raised? >> we have 3 callers in the queue. first caller, i unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> thank you. this is peter breckmyer tuolumne river trust. there is something missing from the drought update and that is the reservoir storage. if (inaudible) had total system storage at the bottom. this time is missing and hope that will come back. if you add up the tuolumne and local storage you come up with 966 thousand acre feet storage. last year demand for full service area was 210 thousand acre feet. 966 in storage, 210 demand. that means there is enough water to last 4 years.

if it didn't rain at all for 4 straight years we wouldn't run out of water, so do we need to panic? why don't you take a second to get in your head what you think the flow was in the lower tuolumne last year. lower tuolumne is where the salmon spawn. the flow last year was 9 percent. 91 percent of the water was either diverted or stored in reservoirs. the year before was 13 percent. the year before that, 15 percent. between 2012-2016 for 5 years the average flow was 12 percent. 2017 it was 79 percent. because everything filled up. the water district had to release as much water as they are allowed by the flood rules. early january into the summer. river flows at 9 thousand (inaudible) that is the problem. you need to look how the river is

managed. we offered interim proposal a few years ago that sfpuc could voluntarily release for 2 years without running out of water, nothing happened. let's do something different this water year. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i have unmuted your line. you have two minutes. >> great. david pillpel again. just miner observation on slide 11, the drought tracker. i note that both san francisco and wholesale customers are using less water during the drought. the most recent period in the bottom charts show me san francisco customers are using about 13 percent less in july through september of this year and wholesale customers about 9

percent total of 10 percent approximately. i forget what the state request or requirement was to reduce water, but given the amount of heat over the last 3 months and the need for both domestic and some landscape irrigation, i think that's a pretty significant reduction on an already pretty low per capita use. i think we're doing okay and i think it is good in fact that we have water stored in reservoirs for future use because who knows we could have a 4 or more year drought ahead of us. we just dont know. thanks for listening. >> thank you for your comments. next caller, i unmuted your line. you have two

minutes. >> commissioners, i want you to hear very clearly what i'm saying. the indigenous people were here for over 23 years. the salmon for millions of years. when strangers came here 200 years ago and did what they did what you are talking about, the main purpose of storing water for 4 years to access water is to make money. that is greed. and you are (inaudible) do something about it. to do a needs assessment we want to know about the (inaudible) one of the (inaudible) you need to do a

needs assessment on the glacier. you need to do a need assessment on all the drinking (inaudible) that leech into the (inaudible) millions of gallons of water. that is on you commissioners. you never tell us how many of the (inaudible) have been up graded. you don't tell us about that. (inaudible) we do not need to waste millions of drinking water (inaudible) and the computer companies. that is your business commissioners. dont just listen to what richy is saying. he is a good friend of mine. he is just doing his work, but you commissioners, policy makers must think outside the box. dont

sit there like dumb asses and do nothing. >> thank you caller, your time expired. one more caller joined the queue. next caller, go ahead. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon commissioners. nicole (inaudible) bosco ceo speaking on behalf of the 26 wholesale customers and 1.8 million residents they serve. first i like to welcome commissioner rivera to the commission. i look forward meeting you in person next month and also to working with you on these important issues as we move forward. i just wanted to make a few remarks. thank you mr. richy for the thoughtfulness of how we discuss the difficulty we find ourselves in achieving our water consurivation targets. i spoke with

the commission about that at the last meeting. it is a challenge and look forward meeting with mr. richy and or staff to figure out how we tackle what we do next to achieve the next important set of reductions in anticipation of another dry year. also, remind the commission that indoor service area is broad. it is diverse. it represents majority of silicon valley and the major economic engine that is the state of california and so it also is important for our entire region economic health we figure how to resolve the water supply issue. thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, the call queue is clear. >> thank you public comment on 9a is closed. >> any further discussion? >> item 9c is clean

powersfant grated resource plan model result by cheryl taylor. >> my name is cheryl taylor operation for clean powersf here to provide a high level presentation of clean powersf 2022 integrated resource plan modeling results. before starting i like to take the opportunity to recognize the tremendous staff work by our team of analysts. there is mallory aul bright who conducted the lion share of the work with (inaudible) they made substantial contributions

and this was all under the wisdom and good leadership of clean powersf director mike hines and power enterprise barb hail. if you recall we were here at the june 14 and september 13 meetings to brief you on clean powersf integrated resource planning process. since that time we completed our analysis as listed our results on the integrated resource plan web page which you can find at cleanpower sf.org/resourceplan. see if i can do that. great. in the interest of time i'll touch on the next two slides but happily return if you have questions. as reminder, integrated resource plan is a energy planning process used to support achieving policy goals and meeting regulatory requirements. this planning process is directed by the california public utilities commission and are we are required to submit the plan to

the california puc by november 1. the cpuc allows electricity providers to consider conforming alternate portfolios in their plans. with the conforming portfolios required to use the cpuc input and assumptions. the alternate portfolio provide the flexibility to use local our own inputs and assumptions. at the next meeting october 25 we request the commission approve and adopt a conforming portfolio as clean powersf preferred portfolio as required by the cpuc. however, we will use both the preferred portfolio and alternative portfolios to inform clean powersf power supply procurement needs. so, on the portfolios scenarios, clean powersf energy resource portfolio include 4

scenarios. two conforming alternative. the first two are conforming the last two alternative. two are base case. that meets the city 2025 renewable energy goal and a time coincident case that emphasize matching renewable energy produced with customer electricity usage and 95 percent of all hours by 2030. i will say staff released the hybrid modeling result for modified time case that examined 90 percent scenario. one is the mayor's electric vehicle that supply said the estimated increase in load throughout 2040 resulting from san francisco emission free trips and building decarbonization target and lastly a local resource procurement case that

supplies 50 percent or half of clean powersf load with local resources also by 2030. so, on local investment we know this is a really important goal for the community as it is for us in clean powersf. the project team required all portfolios include over 285 mega watts of local resource capacity includes 50 mego watts of geo thermal, all most 80 mega watts of solar and (inaudible) battery storage and this represents about 600 to $700 million commitment to local projects. okay. on to the result. so, going on the slide here, but it is critical slide. these pie charts illustrate the total resource capacity in 2035 for each conforming portfolio developed to supply

hundred percent renewable energy by 2025. on top you see the base case and that includes 2296, all most 2300 mega watts of total resource capacity in 2035, while the 95 percent time coincident portfolio the big on the lower left calls for 3246 mega watts total capacity by 2035 and that is 41 percent more then the base case. the time coincident portfolio, the medium size one, provides mid-case example and includes 2476 mega watts of total resource capacity which is about 10 percent above the base case and that includes the most energy storage and geo thermal capacity of the three portfolios. so, you see under on each of these pie charts new resource capacity added for each portfolio and that is

above each pie chart. as you can see, that sort of middle case the 90 percent time coincident case provides a happy median calling for 922 mega watts of new resource capacity by 2035. going to the energy supply by resource type, these portfolios have similar diverse energy mixes. the 95 percent time coincident case includes the most wind, both on and off shore while 90 percent case includes the most geo thermal generation in 2035. on to cost. this slide shows the portfolio cost over the planning horizon which is 2023 to 2035. the base case portfolio cost are the lowest cost of the conforming portfolios. while the 95 percent time coincident portfolio is the costliest. 90 percent in the middle

is only 4 percent higher then the base case, but it is. -95 percent time coincident portfolio is 30 percent higher then the base case. okay. now we are moving on to the alternate portfolios. as i said, we are permitted to use our own input and assumptions. in the mayor's electric vehicle and building decarbonization target case, staff estimated the total increase in energy usage resulting from the increase in passenger vehicle trips and building electrification and see that in the graph over the planning horizon, 2023-2035 if these targets are met the energy usage is estimated to increase by 30 percent annually. to meet this higher forecast of

electricity demand, 1682 mega watts of new resource capacy is required for the mayor's electric vehicle and building decarbonization target case met by 2035. you can see the capacity amount for each resource type. it is provided at the very bottom of the graph. we are going to the local procurement portfolio and just for definitions we define local resources as generation and capacity that is cited within one of the 9 counties. the portfolios calls for a thousand mego watts of new local resource capacity to meet 50 percent of clean powersf demand with local resources by 2030. this slide illustrates the proportion of local resource energy supply begins to increase starting in 2026 and provides enough

local solar, local wind and local geo thermal to meet 50 percent of forecasted energy demand in 2030. wrapping up soon. this slide shows the cost premium for local resource procurement and it is reflected in the total portfolio cost snapshot illustrating the annual revenue requirement necessary to serve customers with local resources in the planning horizon and it is estimated roughly 50 percent high er then clean powersf supply cost by 2032. i have one more slide and that is it. before this is my next step slide and if you give me one more minute. i am nearly over or gone over. i would like to point you and members of the public to our website at clean powersf.org/resourcepla n to present more extensive

analysis. i will give a preview. staff determined the 90 percent time coincident case best balances clean powersf program goals setting the program on the path towards the time coincident port folio without a lot of over-building. all the portfolios modeled the time coincident case best balances our program goals of affordability reliability cleaner energy supply, local investment and financial and rate stability. the deck we posted on ourant grated resource plan web page lays out this evaluation and again as i said earlier we will summarize the findings at the next commission meeting october 25 but in the meantime encourage you to visit our website at clean powersf.org/resourcepla n. for nerkss i want to remind you and members of the public we are collecting written feedback on the plan through this friday at 5 p.m. and will return to you with it final presentation october 25 to seek

both approval and adoption of preferred conforming portfolio and after your approval we'll submit the plan with our preferred portfolio to the puc california puc by november 1. that concludes my presentation and happy to answer your questions. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner maxwell. >> yes. thank you. i would prefer if you don't rush because this is extremely important so we will give you some special time. i think my commissioners are probably agree with that. i think it is important enough that we have understanding. could you explain to me what time coincident means? >> it is a really good question. so, time coincident is for every hour of electricity that customer s use we would supply the-amount of renewable energy during that hour in real time.

so, in the 95 percent case, that means that for 95 percent of the hours in the entire year and there are 8760 hours i believe in a regular year we would provide renewable clean energy for 95 percent of those hours on a real time basis. >> could you write that out and put it in the-so, we have a idea, because it is important-i know watt you said but do i understand what you said is another thing so if you could write that out i would appreciate it so i read this stuff so it is helpful to have it. >> absolutely. >> thank you. thanks for the presentation. >> on the same topic i had the same question. does that mean 5 percent of that is not generated real time? when you say 95 percent of that

is generated real time, can you explain--does that mean we do the whole balancing act- >> i believe that is right that we would do for the 5 percent of the time and 95 percent time coincident case that 5 percent would not be supplied real time. it would be sort of balanced. i dont if mike wants to say a word or two on that. i will say though the 90 percent time coincident proved to be on balance a better portfolio because with the 95 percent portfolio we were needing to over-build because san francisco is-we know it is special but special in the way that we have sort of our peak demand in the winter time versus like a fresno or something like that and so we would need to sort of

like provide energy at that point. like procure for that point and then end up probably selling a lot of energy when we don't have the same level of demand. >> basically meaning that you want to make sure we can source it from other places and not over build in order to make sure we have a balanced portfolio, but at the same time we dont have a very-a lot of high capacity that is not being used? >> going to see if mike wants to-- >> michael himes, the deputy agm for power responsible for clean powersf. i want to reinforce everything cheryl said. the elaboration she provided is spot on. one clarification i wanted to make is, those percentages the way we analyze it those are floors. so, as we look out

and forecasted demand and our model assessed what types of energy supplies we could bring together in a portfolio to meet that forecasted demand, we said we want a portfolio that will go no-wont go below 90 percent of demand in any hour. or, 95 percent of demand. so that means we have plnty hours where we supply hundred percent and one of the challenges we realize and this is a great part of this exercise is, we have to build a portfolio that in some hours will be 200 or more percent of the demand and that can drive up cost and risk. so, that is the thing we are working through and the recommendation that cheryl articulated from the staff so far is towards the 90 percent because we think that is a real positive step in the direction

of having a balanced portfolio, but doesn't do it in a manner that may create a lot of risk for our rate payers. >> go ahead please. you have a question. >> you said in the winter, is the winter about weather? why is the winter? we dont have air conditioning, so- >> we don't have air conditioning but it does get cold here and i don't actually have the latest numbers at hand in terms of the folks here who are like electric heat only versus like gas electric, but people crank up their heat. maybe use more light because of the shorter days, that sort of thing, but yeah, very little to

no ac usage. >> that is why the winter we go up? and the light? how accurate our demand predictions are on the energy side? i know they are easier to madgeage manage but they also have a behavioral piece to it that often can be tricky to estimate and project. how well are we doing on that end? >> i say locally in clean powersf we are doing very well. sort of accurately projecting our demand. i think one of the challenges maybe quite frankly with this process is that this is a process as i said driven by the cpuc for their sort of jurisdictional entities and so they have given us

demand that by the time we got it was stale and out of date. there isn't much we could do to sort of-in the conforming portfolios to sort of like kind of get those to be closer to ours, so we definitely use our demand numbers for the alternate portfolios and then after plan submission, we'll use both the conforming port folio, the one we choose, as well as the alternate ones to really guide our procurement, so we are benefiting from all portfolios but knowing that the data given to us by the cpuc is kind of stale. >> one last question i have for you-let me go to the

slides. on the portfolios you presented i wonder what percentage of those is already in the process of being built? which of those require connection to the grid? which already have a connection to the grid to increase production? >> that is a really good question. if i can answer in two parts. this is sort of a general answer. didn't ask this question, but after we complete after all of us sort of jurisdictional entities of the cpuc complete our irp we snd up to the state and they aggregate all the reports and provide to the independent system operator to sort of support their transmission planning. so, that's

sort of i think a general answer. but in terms of like for us all of the projects sort of where they are, that was your question and the state of connection, gosh, that is a good question and don't know if we have that off hand cht . >> can i ask another question before you move on to answering that? >> yeah. >> this data goes to (inaudible) so they work on the procurement. does that mean that when we say we need this much and these are the local opportunities we have, we might not get those electrons, the electrons might come from somewhere else but this is what our portfolio accounts for? >> so, when we-yes, when we aggregate-we don't aggregate, the cpuc aggregates. i don't believe they procure energy but they want to make sure there is enough connections for

all the energy that each of the jurisdictional entities need to support the load. >> that is what i was wondering. basically we are supposed to procure local resources, local electrons, but the realty is cal (inaudible) will be the central place they are distributed? >> the way i sort of heard it described is that we procure from all over california actually and really sort of including the west coast, the pacific northwest as well, so all of the electrons are sort of dumped into like a bath tub. this is how i heard it described before and so an electron we procure may not necessarily turn on your light, but it sort of

supports the overall load that is balanced by the (inaudible) >> basically they are working with each region or each utility to come up with alternative energy supplies, but at the end of the day our general our regional production would feed the entire grid? >> right. the entire balancing authority, which is most covers most of california. >> got it. thank you. that's what i was wondering. i have no other questions. go ahead. please. >> i have quick question. great presentation cheryl by the way. excellent. >> thanks to staff. >> okay, thank you staff. great. one of the slides showed the 9 bay area counties and potential increase for additional power sources. i notice that in the i

believe sonoma napa region there was a geo thermal power source. can you explain what that is? is that something that will go online, is online, will increase? i like to know, please. >> that is the geysers and i don't know if it is cal pine that owns all of it but the geysers there is a pretty big source of geo thermal energy for us as well as some of the other loads entities. i know the northern california-there is a consortium of publicly owned utilities that take power from the geysers to and cpa- >> and what would the plan be to increase output? would it be more efficient way to capture the energy or would it be bringer more of the geysers online? >> i think it would be a little bit of both and all

the geysers would-sorry, all of the geo thermal geysers is a really important source for us and maybe other load serving entities. there is also other geo thermal. in fact we just i think contracted for a couple of geo thermal from a couple resources. one of which may be in southern california and another might be in nevada or utah and we are procuring that through a consortium of community choice aggregates like ourselves. (inaudible) >> mike himes again. i think the geo thermal resource in sonoma county, there is some potential to develop new resource. there is also some potential to improve efficiencies, so just reinforce that point. the majority of it

is considered built out, but this does tie to the transmission question that commissioner ajami had. that region does need more transmission in order to bring that power into demand areas, so that is something that probably will come out of this whole exercise, and one thing i wanted to emphasize is, we are presenting this as a compliance document to the california puc and it's responsible for the buyers and sellers of power under its jurisdiction which isn't the whole state, it is the distribution utilities that are investor owned and clean powersf supplies the generation for those customers in san francisco. it is aggregating all the plans for all those entities and submitting that to the kiso. as one element of what the kiso is responsible so

it gives a sense of how complicated the planning process is. there is a lot of players involved and sort of the heart of this exercise for us is to make sure that san francisco is contributing its share to the electric supply within the state. we can do that by sourcing within the california iso, within san francisco, within the bay area and so we are looking all these geographic areas and trying to connect the economic cost of doing that and understanding the ultimate rate payer impact. maybe that gives you more sense too of the complexity of this bigger project. >> this goes back to the conversation we had at the last meeting sort of? >> that's right. >> any other comments? thank you so much. that was wonderful. >> thank you.

>> madam secretary, can we call public comment? thank you. >> members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 9c please press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. do we have members of the public to provide comment on item 9c? seeing none, mr. moderator, any callers with hands raised? >> we have one caller in the queue. caller go ahead. you have 2 minutes. >> can you hear me now? >> yes, go ahead. >> great. david pillpel. i understand item 9b was pulled. i can follow up with sarah menic with comments on that and will follow up with cheryl (inaudible) on this item 9c. i understood most of thconversation and had comments and questions about some issues and apparently the puc, cac power subcommittee was supposed to meet tonight to discuss this

as a significant item but that meetings has been canceled due to lack of quorum so that is unfortunate and untimely given the schedule this is on for the (inaudible) good work by staff both cheryl and her team and michael himes and others. yeah, staff work. thanks very much. scrrks >> thank you for your comments. that call queue is clear. >> madam secretary, that concludes my report. >> thank you. public comment is closed. can you please call the next item? >> next item is item 10. new commission business.

>> commissioners, any-- can we have public comment? >> we don't- >> okay. so, can you please call the next item? >> item 11 consent calendar. >> commissioners, any items that i think we only have one item at this point. two items. any items you would like to remove from consent calendar? nope. we can then-can we have public comment please? thank you. >> members who wish to make two minutes of remote public comment on item 11 the consent calendar, please press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. do we have any members of the public present to provide comment on the consent calendar? seeing none, do we have callers with hands raised? >> madam secretary, we

have one caller in the queue. caller go ahead. i unmuted your line. >> great. david pillpel. the last time today. i have no objection to these items but i had a general comment on both items. page one of the cover sheet the box labeled background for 11a has a little language in there on the existing mains installed between 1922 and 1962, material and age that need to be replaced. that is nice and helpful. 11b it simply says the wastewater enterprise (inaudible) determine they should be replaced. in both cases and frankly in all cases of construction, award i think it is helpful to have little more background on the like the 11a has the age and

materials and the basis the reason for the particular replacement project. it is just a few words. maybe another paragraph, but having a little more language in there i think bolsters commission and public understanding of the need for these types of projects. not that they are not needed ed, they are absolutely needed but documenting that need in the calendar item on page 1 in the background box is the right thing to do and i'm just asking staff to include a little more verbiage going forward. that's all. thank you very much for listening. >> thank you for your comments. madam secretary, the call queue is clear. >> thank you, public comment on item 11 is closed. >> excellent. can i ask for a motion and second to approve? >> move to approve.

>> second. >> madam secretary, please take roll call. [roll call] >> 3 ayes. >> item passes. can we have the next item, please? >> madam president, closed session was pulled from today's calendar so that concludes your agenda for today. >> great. thank you so much. we are adjourned. [meeting adjourned]

>> in the bay area as a whole, thinking about environmental sustainability. we have been a leader in the country across industries in terms of what you can do and we have a learn approach. that is what allows us to be successful. >> what's wonderful is you have so many people who come here and they are what i call policy innovators and whether it's banning plastic bags, recycling, composting, all the different things that we can do to improve the environment. we really champion. we are at recycle central, a

large recycle fail on san francisco pier 96. every day the neighborhood trucks that pick up recycling from the blue bins bring 50 # o tons of bottles, cans and paper here to this facility and unload it. and inside recology, san francisco's recycling company, they sort that into aluminum cans, glass cans, and different type of plastic. san francisco is making efforts to send less materials to the landfill and give more materials for recycling. other cities are observing this and are envious of san francisco's robust recycling program. it is good for the environment. but there is a lot of low quality plastics and junk plastics and candy wrappers and is difficult to recycle that.

it is low quality material. in most cities that goes to landfill. >> looking at the plastics industry, the oil industry is the main producer of blastics. and as we have been trying to phase out fossil fuels and the transfer stream, this is the fossil fuels and that plastic isn't recycled and goes into the waste stream and the landfill and unfortunately in the ocean. with the stairry step there will be more plastic in the ocean than fish. >> we can recycle again and again and again. but plastic, maybe you can recycle it once, maybe. and that, even that process it downgrades into a lower quality material. >> it is cheaper for the oil industry to create new plastics and so they have been producing more and more plastics so with our ab793, we have a bill that

really has a goal of getting our beverage bottles to be made of more recycled content so by the time 2030 rolls around t recycle content in a coke bottle, pepsi bottle, water bottle, will be up to 50% which is higher thatten the percentage in the european union and the highest percentage in the world. and that way you can actually feel confident that what you're drinking will actually become recycled. now, our recommendation is don't use to plastic bottle to begin w but if you do, they are committing to 50% recycled content. >> the test thing we can do is vote with our consumer dollars when we're shopping. if you can die something with no packaging and find loose fruits and vegetables, that is the best. find in packaging and glass, metal and pap rer all easily recycled. we don't want plastic. we want less plastic.

awe what you we do locally is we have the program to think disposable and work one on one to provide technical assistance to swap out the disposable food service to reusables and we have funding available to support businesses to do that so that is a way to get them off there. and i believe now is the time we will see a lot of the solutions come on the market and come on the scene. >> and is really logistics company and what we offer to restaurants is reasonable containers that they can order just like they would so we came from about a pain point that a lot of customers feel which wills a lot of waste with takeout and deliver, even transitioning from styrofoam to plastic, it is still wasteful.

and to dream about reusing this one to be re-implemented and cost delivery and food takeout. we didn't have throwaway culture always. most people used to get delivered to people's homes and then the empty milk containers were put back out when fresh milk came. customers are so excited that we have this available in our restaurant and came back and asked and were so excited about it and rolled it out as customers gain awareness understanding what it is and how it works and how they can integrate it into their life. >> and they have always done it and usually that is a way of being sustainable and long-term change to what makes good

financial sense especially as there are shipping issues and material issues and we see that will potentially be a way that we can save money as well. and so i think making that case to other restaurateurs will really help people adopt this. >> one restaurant we converted 2,000 packages and the impact and impact they have in the community with one switch. and we have been really encouraged to see more and more restaurants cooperate this. we are big fans of what re-ecology does in terms of adopting new systems and understanding why the current system is broken.

when people come to the facility, they are shocked by how much waste they see and the volume of the operations and how much technology we have dedicated to sort correctly and we led 25 tours and for students to reach about 1100 students. and they wanted to make change and this is sorting in the waste stream they do every single day and they can take ownership of and make a difference with. >> an i feel very, very fortunate that i get to represent san francisco in the legislature and allows me to push the envelope and it is because of the people the city attracts and is because of the eco system of policy thinking

that goes on in san francisco that we are constantly seeing san francisco leading the way. >> kids know there's a lot of environmental issues that they are facing. and that they will be impacted by the impact of climate change. they will have the opportunity to be in charge and make change and make the decisions in the future. >> we are re-inventing the way the planet does garbage founded in the environmental ethic and hunger to send less to landfills. this is so many wonderful things happening in san francisco. i feel very fortunate and very humble to live here and to be part of this wonderful place.

. >> president yee: of the 26 neighborhoods we have in west portal, it's probably the most unique in terms of a small little town. you can walk around here, and it feels different from the rest of san francisco. people know each other. they shop here, they drink wine here. what makes it different is not only the people that live here, but the businesses, and without all these establishments, you wouldn't know one neighborhood from the other. el toreador is a unique restaurant. it's my favorite restaurant in san francisco, but when you look around, there's nowhere else that you'll see decorations like this, and it makes you feel like you're in a different world, which is very symbolic of west portal itself.

>> well, the restaurant has been here since 1957, so we're going on 63 years in the neighborhood. my family came into it in 1987, with me coming in in 1988. >> my husband was a designer, and he knew a lot about art, and he loved color, so that's what inspired him to do the decorations. the few times we went to mexico, we tried to get as many things as we can, and we'd bring it in. even though we don't have no space, we try to make more space for everything else. >> president yee: juan of the reasons we came up with the legacy business concept, man eel businesses were closing down for a variety of reasons.

it was a reaction to trying to keep our older businesses continuing in the city, and i think we've had some success, and i think this restaurant itself is probably proof that it works. >> having the legacy business experience has helped us a lot, too because it makes it good for us because we have been in business so long and stayed here so long. >> we get to know people by name, and they bring their children, so we get to know them, also. it's a great experience to get to know them. supervisor yee comes to eat at the restaurant, so he's a wonderful customer, and he's very loyal to us. >> president yee: my favorite dish is the chile rellenos.

i almost never from the same things. my owner's son comes out, you want the same thing again? >> well, we are known for our mole, and we do three different types of mole. in the beginning, i wasn't too familiar with the whole legacy program, but san francisco, being committed to preserve a lot of the old-time businesses, it's important to preserve a lot of the old time flavor of these neighborhoods, and in that capacity, it was great to be recognized by the city and county of san francisco. >> i've been here 40 years, and i hope it will be another 40 yeararararararararararararararr

>> my name is holly doudiet.

h2 firefighter with the san franciscowired. what inspired me to be a firefighter was in 2008 i graduated college . the recession had happened so there weren't any jobs. i was having troublefinding a job. and i was kind of looking around . my dad was a firefighter and i thought what a great career he had. so i asked my dad, never thinking abt t before. i said dad, what you think about me being afirefighter and he goes yeah, thatwould be a good idea . i took some classes, i ended up loving it . i grew up and actually and i think it was a good fit for me because it's a physical job and it's enjoyable. you never know whatyou're going to get and it's a team effort . i first realized i was part of the lgbt+ community in sixth

grade. i looked on the other side of the classroom and i sawthis girl i thought was really attractive and i thought i want to be her boyfriend . though my experiences in the city growing up in the city and countyof san francisco were always verypositive . i came out in high school . i actually ended up being prom king my senior year in high school and a lot of peoplewere very supportive . myparents were very supportive . they just let me do my thing and my dad knew of a lot of lesbian women in the fire departmentthe time because he was a san francisco firefighter . for me it's very important to be part of a community and organization and an agency that supports my lgbtq status because if you're not yourself, how can you perform to the best of your abilities? you're always holding back in some way whether it's your

personality or your abilities or your overall skills and with agency that supports me being a lesbian i can truly be myself. i can be happy. i can be social with other people. it makes me want to work as a team and we all work better together when we are happier and we can be ourselves. >>. [music] brine is in the pro -- o bryan works on oceanside projects.

we understand the infrastructure is old and there is new technology to incorporate. bryan's role is to manage the capital projects to update infrastructure and to make things more efficient. >> bryan is a unique project manager. he brings technical experience but only that but he is a great mentor to young project managers in my group. >> mentors is a lot about compatibility, too. he showed me his process and how he organized things and managed projects and had conversations on escalating things with contractors. >> brine shows leadership. he is independent. >> we work together pretty well with the resources we have to get the best outcome for the

city. i think we have an open communication and that trust again of teamwork. >> bryan is a straight-shooter, he likes to get things done. he doesn't seek praise. i think that is why myself wanted to nominate him for the award to get recognition for the things he does to go above and beyond in his job. >> he is committed. that is why he deserved the golden pride award. >> i haven't been awarded anything like this in my 20 years. that is exciting to be recognized. it is special. it is excited to get recognition with the ongoing activities with the focus on the southeast. it is good to have a little bright light over here every once in a while. we are next ocean beach.

>> i am a project manager for the sewer system improvement program at oceanside. >> once i got the hang of it a little bit, you know, like the first time, i never left the court. i just fell in love with it and any opportunity i had to get out there, you know, they didn't have to ask twice. you can always find me on the court. [♪♪♪] >> we have been able to participate in 12 athletics

wheelchairs. they provide what is an expensive tool to facilitate basketball specifically. behind me are the amazing golden state road warriors, which are one of the most competitive adaptive basketball teams in the state led by its captain, chuck hill, who was a national paralympic and, and is now an assistant coach on the national big team. >> it is great to have this opportunity here in san francisco. we are the main hub of the bay area, which, you know, we should definitely have resources here. now that that is happening, you know, i i'm looking forward to that growing and spreading and helping spread the word that needs -- that these people are here for everyone. i think it is important for people with disabilities, as well as able-bodied, to be able to see and to try different

sports, and to appreciate trying different things. >> people can come and check out this chairs and use them. but then also friday evening, from 6:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m., it will be wheelchair basketball we will make sure it is available, and that way people can no that people will be coming to play at the same time. >> we offer a wide variety of adaptive and inclusion programming, but this is the first time we have had our own equipment. [♪♪♪]