underscore that and i know there is a lot to be discussed. thank you that's everything for me. >> thank you. commissioner byrne, we get a history lesson again today? what constitution will you be covering tonight. >> with all due respect, things are in writing are better than things that are not in writing. that's my point that my learned friend did that we trust you to do it. i'm not going to relitigate last week or two weeks ago to me it was better for it to be in writing. that was my mystical point. chief, you're aware that our vote two weeks ago, was an only advisory vote as we cannot bind you because of the legal issue, you're aware of that. >> you're talking about the mou? >> yes. >> yes.

>> and you've chosen to follow the advise of the commission. >> yes. >> fine, and again, my learned friend, you understand the point he's making are the points that the district attorney should be making if the attorney is concerned about the distribution. we on our advisory role, we obviously obviously are concerned about the legitimacy of the investigation involving.

where members of this commission may not be. i would disagree with my learned friend the protection of witnesses that would be the sensitive issue particularly, the example that i think is where there is an officer involved and the officers that have come forward and obviously don't want to make their selves known to the police department. where they would go to the district attorney, i'm not a district attorney would want the police department from having. that's the example that comes to my mind. those are a lot of example.

and those are important issues where the da would have. those are significant where the police officer would want the confidential. to know what was going on. if there is a threat to somebody's safety whether it be from somebody in the outside or outside, those things have to be considered. >> and that's fairly significant, that's my only point. thank you. >> thank you, it makes sense why we received an email right before the commission, thank you, your line of questioning. >> vice president. >> i want to clarify one thing that commissioner byrne raised.

i think my first question i asked you whether you were in agreement that the commission has the authority here to approve that the department rather needs to seek the commission's in order to give legal affect and i thought you said yes. but i think you said something different in response to commissioner byrne's question. >> you asked me if the commission by policy had approval of thofrt for the mou, that answer is yes. the however the department heads have mou authority. so it's i think in our best interest to work together and of course i'm going to follow the police commission's directive by charter. the department head has the authority to enter into contract for any department in the city.

so the mou is to be approved by the commission per policy but department head still has the authority to do it. i believe that we will workout what the commission has asked. >> okay, i appreciate that we're going to work together with this. i don't think it will be a live issue but it's my, it's my understanding that the chief cannot enter into this agreement without the commission's approval under 3.011 because of oufr charter authority to set policy for the department. maybe we will not have to get

into a legal debate about how the charter provisions interact. i wanted to put that on our record that our role is not advisory. >> and i can jump in, this is a answer that has been resolved. do you have a memo. >> sorry, i didn't have a chance to read, it was sent late. we can review the legal issue if it becomes relevant. my current understanding is we're not acting on advisory capacity. >> commissioner walker. >> that's not the memo i got. >> i think it's just for us, you may want to read it. >> public comment? >> i have a motion from commissioner benedicto. >> we don't need a motion.

this will be continued until november 16th. so let's go to public comment. >> for members of the public that would like to make public comment online item 10, please approach the podium or press star-3. ?fm there ising no public comment. >> thank you, next item. >> item 11, public comment on all matters on 13 below, close session, including 12 and whether to hold item 13 in closed session. if you would like to make a comment, approach the podium or press star-3. and there is no public comment. line item 12 vote to whether or not to vote item 13 in closed session. action? >> move to go into closed session. >> second.

>> on the motion to go closed session. commission walker. >> yes. >> commissioner benedicto. >> yes. >> yanez. >> yes. >> byrne. >> yes. >> vice president. >> yes. >> and president elias. >> yes. >> you have six yeses.

>> yes. >> yes. >> commissioner. >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> vice president, yes. >> and president. >> yes. >> president elias yes. for those wanting to make a public comment online 14, press 3 now. there is no public commememememe . >> my name is ana renzi. i'm a fire investigator for the

city and county of san francisco. the job of a fire investigator is to go after the fire has been put out and to determine the origin and the cause of the fire. so we are the people who after the firefighters have come in and done their magnificent work to extinguish the fire, we go through the fire scene and we are able to find how the fire started. just showing up, being who you are can mean a world of difference to someone. when someone sees you as an identifiably queer person, an identifiable female presenting person or a person of color walk into their home, they can feel more comfortable and more trusting just knowing that you are around and that you may have some insight into their situation and to their community needs that others may

not have. the san francisco fire department i'm proud to say goes out of its way to recruit women, minorities, and to the lgbtq+ community, we are awaiting you and wanting you to come join us as a san francisco fire department. no one is going to represent us like you are going to represent us. no one is going to care for our communities and for our departments like you are going to come and represent our communities and our departments. i am a proud black queer member of the san francisco fire department and i'm especially proud to be part of an organization that respects and values our diverse communities in san francisco. [♪♪] .

>> my name is kathy mccall. i'm director of san francisco national cemetery here on the presidio of san francisco. this was designated as the first national cemetery on the west coast in 1884.however its history dates back to the 1850s along with the us army presence on the presidio itself. we have 26,300 gravesites that we maintain and thereare 32,000 individuals buried in this cemetery . the veterans who are buried here span all the war period going back to what we call the indian war, spanish-american

war, world war i to korea, vietnam and then as recent as operation iraqifreedom . we have 39 medal of honor recipients. more than 400 buffalo soldiers buried here who are the african-americansoldiers who served with the ninth and 10th calvary . there's so many veterans buried here, each withtheir own unique history and contribution . one of those individuals is all equipment prior. that's not her real name, that's her stage name and she was an actor during the civil war and while she was working she was approached by sympathizers who offered her a sum of money to cost jefferson davis on stage she did this but she recorded it to a union marshall . she was fired for doing this which made her a sweetheart to the local confederates and made her a good spy for the union.

she gave information to the union until late 1863 when she was found out in order to be hung by confederate general braxton bragg of the union troops the town . no longer any good she even wrote a book. she was given the honorary rank of major president lincoln and her inscription reads union spy. >> memorial day is a day of respect and morning for our veterans who have given their all five presidential proclamation it became a national holiday to beobserved on the last monday of the month of may . originally memorial day was called decoration day during the civil war to recognize the veterans whogave their lives . memorial day and veterans day getconfused because it involves

veterans .veterans day is on november 11 is a day to honor our veterans who are still alive while at the same time we pay respect to those who have passed but memorial day is a day to show our respect to what was said and honor ourveterans who have passed on . >> lieutenant john david miley was a graduate of the united states military academy atwest point in 1887 . he was commissioned as a second lieutenant with the fifth artillery regiment with the outbreak of the spanish-american war in 1898 he was assigned an aide-de-camp to major general william shatner, khmer and commander of the expedition to cuba.he was highly trusted and when the general staff fell lieutenant miley was designed to coordinate the attack on san juan hill in his place and would ultimately be the one to give the order that led to the

charge of lieutenant colonel theodore roosevelt and the roughriders . a few days later he served as one of the commissioners who negotiated the spanish surrender of santiago july 17. in 1904 miley in san francisco wasnamed in his honor.we know that today as san francisco va medical center . >> as a young man i grew up in south san francisco right next door to the national cemetery so when i became a cub scout we used to go over there in the 50s and decorate the gravesthat were there. when i got out of the service i stepped right back into it . went out with the boy scouts and put up the flags every year and eventually ended up being a scout at golden gate cemetery for many years. one day a gentleman walked upto me with a uniform of colonel

retired . he grabbed me, i wasin uniform and says i need your help . from that day on i worked with cardinal sullivan doing military funerals and formed a group called the volunteers of america who brought in other veterans to perform military service and the closing of all the bases we got military personnel to do all the funerals. to this day i've done over 7000 funeral services and with my group we supplement the military, all branches. i'm honoring a fellow comrade was given his or her life in service to this country. and the way ilook at it , the last thing the family and friends will remember about that individual is the final service we give to them. so we have to do a perfect job. so that they go home with good memories.

>> our nation flies the united states flag at half staff by presidentialproclamation as a symbol of mourning . also in va national cemetery flags are flown at half staff on the days we haveburials . is lowered to half staff before the first burial takes place and ray is back to full staff after the last arial has been completed . on memorial day weekend we have hundreds of scouts veterans and volunteers who come out and placed individual gravesite flags on every grave throughout the cemetery transformation from when they begin to when they conclude and to have that coupled with our memorial day ceremony is very moving and suchappointment reminder of the cost of our freedom . it's a reminderto us not to take that for granted , to be truly grateful for the price is

paid not only by those who given their lives but those will have served our country and still pay the price today in one way or another and it's so meaningful to be to work in the national cemetery and see the history around us and to know this is such an integral part of our nation's past and present. >>

the tenderloin is home to families, immigrants, seniors,

merchants, workers and the housed and unhoused who all deserve a thriving neighborhood to call home. the tenderloin initiative was launched to improve safety, reduce crime, connect people to services and increase investments in the neighborhood. as city and community-based partners, we work daily to make these changes a reality. we invite you to the tenderloin history, inclusivity make this neighborhood special. >> we're all citizens of san francisco and we deserve food, water, shelter, all of those things that any system would. >> what i find the most fulfilling about being in the tenderloin is that it's really basically a big family here and i love working and living here. >> [speaking foreign language]

>> my hopes and dreams for the tenderloin are what any other community organizer would want for their community, safe, clean streets for everyone and good operating conditions for small businesses. >> everything in the tenderloin is very good. the food is very good. if you go to any restaurant in san francisco, you will feel like oh, wow, the food is great. the people are nice. >> it is a place where it embraces all walks of life and different cultures. so this is the soul of the tenderloin. it's really welcoming. the. >> the tenderloin is so full of color and so full of people. so with all of us being together and making it feel very safe is challenging, but we are working on it and we are getting there..

>> shop and dine the 49 promotes loophole businesses and changes residents to do thirds shopping and diane within the 49 square miles of san francisco by supporting local services we help san francisco remain unique and successful where will you shop and dine shop and dine the 49. >> my name is neil the general manager for the book shop here on west portal avenue if san francisco this is a neighborhood bookstore and it is a wonderful neighborhood but it is an interesting community because the residents the neighborhood muni loves the neighborhood it is community and we as a book sincerely we see the same people here the shop all the time and you know to a certain degree this is part

of their this is created the neighborhood a place where people come and subcontract it is in recent years we see a drop off of a lot of bookstores both national chains and neighborhoods by the neighborhood stores where coming you don't want to - one of the great things of san francisco it is neighborhood neighborhood have dentist corrosive are coffeehouses but 2, 3, 4 coffeehouses in month neighborhoods that are on their own- that's

>> i am iris long. we are a family business that started in san francisco chinatown by my parents who started the business in the mid 1980s. today we follow the same footsteps of my parents. we source the teas by the harvest season and style of crafting and the specific variety. we specialize in premium tea. today i still visit many of the farms we work with multigenerational farms that produce premium teas with its own natural flavors. it is very much like grapes for wine. what we do is more specialized, but it is more natural. growing up in san francisco i used to come and help my parents after school whether in middle

school or high school and throughout college. i went to san francisco state university. i did stay home and i helped my parents work throughout the summers to learn what it is that makes our community so special. after graduating i worked for an investment bank in hong kong for a few years before returning when my dad said he was retiring. he passed away a few years ago. after taking over the business we made this a little more accessible for visitors as well as residents of san francisco to visit. many of our teas were traditionally labeled only in chinese for the older generation. today of our tea drinkkers are quite young. it is easy to look on the

website to view all of our products and fun to come in and look at the different varieties. they are able to explore what we source, premium teas from the providence and the delicious flavors. san francisco is a beautiful city to me as well as many of the residents and businesses here in chinatown. it is great for tourists to visit apsee how our community thrived through the years. this retail location is open daily. we have minimal hours because of our small team during covid. we do welcome visitors to come in and browse through our products. also, visit us online. we have minimal hours. it is nice to set up viewings of

these products here.