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i'm fading. i just got back from hawaii with my son late last night. surfed out and sun burned. beat up and bruised. ready to go to bed. okay. commissioner ortiz. >> ment to report back last friday on vet republicany day the sudden fran low ride are counsel we through activation of plaza on 24th. a dj and we did, lot of social modia to engage the businesses from 23rd to 25th it was a huge success. we drove a ton of this and people were coming out the plaza to music and people jamming it was a family friend low event.
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a lot of little kids. it was fun it see space activated positive and boy activating spitz we got rid of the stuff plaguing our city. positive energy. shopping local and music. and have patrol there and they were part and enengage and drinking punch and it was fun. and it was fun and very low costing to do this. it was very low cost for 3 hours in the evening we had a safe issue fun space. and we upon [inaudible] so -- i wanted report and honored our vet republicans day. i didn't know you put i dish oust i done know like i learned something. similar to day of the dead you do it honest offered somebody this passed in service and that was cool i learned.
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it was just cultural and you know paying respect and our country row and the people who served and the privilege for when we get on do. it was cool. great. anybody else? public comment on the line. >> none. okay. seeing none. public comment is closed. next item. >> 9, adjournment. sfgovtv show the office of business slide. >> the official forum to voice opinions and occurrence about policies that ascii small business in san francisco. and tht office of small business is the best place to get answers during the local emergency. if you need assistance with matters reach out to the office of mall business. thank you.
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>> good morning and welcome to the rules committee of the san francisco board of supervisors for today, monday, november 14, 2022. i am aaron peskin the chair joined by supervisor mandelman and member supervisor chan. our clerk is there victor young. would you read the announcements. board of supervisors and committee are allowing in person attendance and public comment and remote via phone. board ecniezed public access is essential and take comment as follows. first on each item. those in person will speak first and then we will take those waiting on the phone line. for those watching 26, 28, 78 or 99 and sfgov.org the call in number is strolling across the screen it is 415-655-0001.
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1 dr. carlton b. goodlett place room 244, san francisco, california that completes my comments. read the first item. >> yes, item one. ordinance amending the administrative code to establish the 706 mission fund to receive funds provided to the city under the 2013 sales agreement regarding the report at 706 mission to authorize the reshg and park and community development to expand money for specified purposes after receiving recommendations from the soma stableation advisory committee and rec and park department approximate mayor's office of housing and community development to prepare reports and regarding the expenditure from the fund. >> thank you, mr. young. there is history on this one goes back about a decade.
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bh the then supervisor district 6 jane kim, worked with south of market communities around the development of a purchase and sale agreement for 706 mission street. which you may know as a millennium project and the potential future home for the mexican museum. and after supervisor kim left members of the community reached out to her ultimately not getting a robust response wandered to my office for any number of reasons. one being that during supervisor kim's tenure there was we referred to our respective
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districts as combined district 36 or 633 because supervisor kim's former staff migrateed my office there was a point of contact there. the interim lack of responsiveness lead to a hearing that i conducted at land use and transportation committee where we were investigating what became of all of the fees that were in that purchase and sale agreement. and discovered that the developer as a result of that agreement if, had yet to pay over 3 million dollars in needed affordable housing fees. and we are working to delay the payment of that. they had succeeded in delaying the payment of it. in the midst of a housing crisis claiming that they were not able to sell their units fast enough, which counter intuitive.
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any rate, i'm pleaseed say that the successor redevelopment agency known as ocii is now after my suggesting we have a hearing about the payment of those fees and introducing this hearing. ocii is in receipt of a letter if the developer say they will pay those outstanding fee in full by the end of march. so that 3-1/2 million dollars is on the way. which i'm pleased with and we goat have one last hearing. we discovered that there were open space fees that had not gone through any of the intend community processes envisioned in the original negotiations over the 706 mission street project. and ultimately the community asked that the open space fees go through a formal community
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process as long been the dynamic in the south of market through which they have direct input. which is what lead to had you see here before you today. i'm very pleased and thankful that our colleague now from district 6 supervisor dorsey is a cosponsor with our colleague on the panel supervisor chan. this funds takes the funds cover a broad array of uses including antie vision displacement and codifies they go through the soma cac process. and takes open space funds intended to be allocated through rec and park and ensures they go through the soma cac. at the hearing i made it clear if departments are spending money for their own projects or without accountability to
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community that the benefits the board would step in and pass legislation like this, the south of market long strugyinged with issues of open space programming something district 6 and 3 have in common with the lowest amount of open space per capita. i think this legislation is appropriate and i'm happy to answer any questions. and with that, seeing nobody on the roster why don't we open item one to public comment. >> yes. members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item and in person line up to speak at this time. for those remote, call 415-655-0001 then access code: 2486 917 6560 ##. once connected you need to press star 3 to enter the speaker
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line. police continue to wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted that is your queue to begin your comment. there is nobody in the room for comment. we have 2 callers on the line. >> first speaker, please. >> good morning this is allen low. the importance of this ordinance is really to establish the accounting and transparency. simple enough comment. concepts but it was difficult to get to this point. on accounting, we have to first establish how how much money collected. and where are those funds as well as are those funds extended for the purpose under the purchase special sale agreement. the ordinance establishes the
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accountability in for the collection of the funds. the second is transparency. the purchase and sale agreement does contemplate that the there will be a community review process. a commitment to work with existing community groups to az vice on expent tour of the funds. this ordinance establishes that transparency. provides account at to make sure the funds are collected. establishes the procedure in which to engage with groups. the expenditure of the funds make sure they are going to soma open space and programs. so this is a necessary ordinance to implement the mission funds there are 3 buckets of funds. there is an annual payment to
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the gardens and soma open space 500 thousand dollars that escalates each year. a one time, 1.8 million dollars payment plus there is a transfer fee this gets paid perpetuity. your time. >> keep wrap up mr. low. keep going. >> this ordinance is necessary to provide that accountsability. and i wanted to thank supervisor peskin for the 8 years in this pursuit as well as the unfish district 6 supervisor. thank you. >> thank you for sicking at it former rec and park commissioner allen low and for working with the unacknowledged who stuck
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with it all these years. next speaker, please. >> good morning spierzs i'm michelle with united [inaudible] i'm a soma resident and member of the friends of [inaudible] parks. [inaudible] can't believe it has been a decade for us to get here. i want to start by really saying that we cannot over state how much we value or relationship with the park and rec department because of our partnership, we were able to serve the young people that we serve uninterrupted during the pandemic we closed for night days and because we got out of the rec center we served kids that need it the most in san francisco. so that is part of why with
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allen, i have been trying to track dhoun money and make sure it guess to the community it is supposed to serve. we are super excited for the funds to renovate jean friends so we can have a new shiny facility. the service funds and stabilization funds, we have a need for recreation in our neighborhood as has been discussed. we have the least amount of open space. but when we advocated these funds planning was supporting the senior dancing or senior exercises or parent dangs. an amazing dance group that would love to be able to do more. so who i this development was created at a time when the city was not investing a lot in tenant support, that changed. because the funds are tied to open space i want to urge the
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funds stay connected to open space approximate recreation. and say that what has been the most sad to meet funds were lost in a time when our community needed them the most. housing funds were not paid but open space fees were paid and took a crazy process and e mails after e mails to electronic this money down. that should never have happened should not be the case with city government. i'm really excited for the funds to be available to the community. and just urge your support that they stay connect to the open space and rescue rigz they were entitled for. thank you. >> thank you for your advocacy all these years. other members to comment on item one >> we have additional callers. >> next speaker, please.
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good morning, supervisors i'm heather phillips. i work with united players approximate part of the friends of jean friend. and we have been working since this project was at planning. to see that the dollars do go toward open space and new sport's programming and so -- thank you, thank you to supervisor peskin's office and suny and allen low and folk who is continue to work to make sure the funds don't disappear. and so -- justmented give my support for the ordinance today making sure there is clarity and community process to make sure that the dollars support the community, they support youth and seniors and families. i think that the transparency and the account at that it
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brings will shine light on the work that they are doing in the soma. thank you very much. thank you. next caller. >> good morning i'm ann koppel a member of west bay and born in the south of market area. i support the 706 mission funds being advised by the soma stabilization fund to benefit residents. and so we have more recreational activities. for the youth and family in soma especially. our kidsment to join sports and moms dancing and there is little to no funds to have activitying like this in soma. i support funds used to the stabilization fund to ensure there is recreational activities and opportunity.
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thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning i'm carla and the director of west bay filipino service center and friends of jean friend and wanted to so appreciation to supervisor peskin and the sponsor dorsey and chan and office and allen low and misha for making sure the funds advocates for almost 10 years ago don't get lost. the soma community those that are the most vulnerable and under represented. we serve folks in the soma youth and family zone and either some of the family members there are in the usually talked about but are the ones that as supervisor peskin mentioned have the least aim of open space. we appreciate rpd and the support over the years with
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united way to use jean friend so kids and families can go there and make sure the funds that we had advocates for 10 years ago used for the families so we have more activity at jean friend like lancing. as they mentiond and sports for kids approximate seniors as well to do recreational activities. many, i support the fund mission funds advised by the soma stabilization fund soez the community has a voice and you, supervisor peskin, your office and of course, [inaudible] for making sure that the funds stay for those members in the community that need it most. thank you very much. >> thank you. just checking to see if there are additional callers. that was our last phone caller >> okay. public comment for item 1 is closed. and supervisor mandelman.
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>> thanks for your work chair peskin approximate thank you supervisoran gullo and add me as a cosponsor. i will make a motion to sends item 1 to the full board with a positive recommendation a roll call, please. >> on that motion, supervisor chan. >> aye. >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> next item. >> next on the agenda is item 2, ordinance amending the administrative code to require board of supervisors approval of a policy covering the fudding and use of law enforcement equipment consistent with the criteria in state law and approving the police department's use of equipment policy. >> thank you, mr. young. colleagues, it is taken a few meetings i want to thank the
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police department for working with me approximate my office on continuing to hone the policy as a result of our recent conversations result in the the policy that is now in the packet and has been circulateed all of you as of thursday. and available has been available since then for the public to see. which i recommend to you, i'm happy to answer questions as to how we got here. and want to thank captain marina and lieutenant kim and osha steves for their work. and they are here to answer questions that we may have. any questions, colleagues? if not, why don't we go to
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public comment on item number 2 that has been heard in this committee 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 times. >> yes, members of public wish to speak on this item and joining in person lineup to speak at this time. for those remote call 415-655-0001 then access code: 2486 917 6560 ## press story 3 to enter the queue. for those in the queue continue it wait until you have been unmute exclude that is your queue to begin your comment. we have member of the public in the chamber with us today. please, come forward. i'm arthur comp a small business owner with a store front and an artist live nothing district 9.
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hillary ronen is my supervisor i sent her a letter in participation of this going to the full board. i'm a member of the san francisco friends meeting serves on the peace and social concerns committee. a quaker meeting house a couple blocks away at 65 south ninth we are no strangers to city hall or the neighborhood this surrounds it. i want to thank you for the improvements to the proposed policy. i ask the board of supervisors to call for further improvements of the propose the military equipment use policy we thank the pd for improving the policy authorized use definitions. but more is need. the policy must describe the circumstances in which weapons are used and how the weapons are used and when they should not be used.
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we need clear limits to broad definitions of authorized use. san francisco should set a delivery date for annual reports alining with the budget process the weapons and the costs involving training on them and deploying them are poor physical choice for san francisco. san francisco pd proposed policy should allow to acquire equipment without board of supervisors approval if it runs low on the stock or wishes to replace the equipment, if this happen this is is a situation in which moreover site is needed not less. i appreciate that this proposed policy improved under chair peskin's leadership and i hope there will be improvements before the proposed policy is decided upon by the full board, thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. there are no further speakers in the chamber.
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we can move to our public comment call in line. first caller, please. hi. this is jennifer i w for [inaudible] first i wanted thank chair peskin for take the time to contract policies from sfpd. that work means the policy has improved. i think the counta a little off it has been agendized 6 times but not comment during all of the times there is one part of the proposed policy that i'm concerned with. and the exconclusion of 375 of 608 assault rifles. this misleads the public think the police have over 200 rifles rather than over 600 assault rifles they have. the weapons need to be included in the policy in full for 2
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reasons. first this year pd killed 3 people with assault rifles. one killed was suedal. the other 2 remember men who were killed on the ground arguing over a knife. all rifles need use policy describing when it is authorized to use. second, every type of equipment in the policy each them is required have an annual report. reports are required include a summary of the use and the fiscal impact. the impact includes not just the acquisition costs but on going costs. the law that includes no time including training and maintenance. we know that means all of the costs are going to be around personnel. public deserves to know the impact of the deadly weapons
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including all assault rifles addition not 15 machine guns and 64 machine guns. i hope the rules committee will consider pd's policy and ask how each may be used and what changes can safe guard the public. thank you very much for your work on this. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> um -- good morning supervisors this is reggina snowed a member of district 2 supervisor stefani's district. i wanted step become a bit approximate reminds us what ad-481 requires. the law passed in recognition that the public is deeply concerned with the militarization of the police. the law sets forth minimalize
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the equipment that is ownd and the associated costs and providing policy for the appropriate use of the equipment. and by requiring a report on its deployment and costs. this ordinance has gone through 6 iterations now. i want to thank the police department and supervisor peskin for their engagement to make this a better ordinance. i think it is getting there. i support comments med by the previous speaker about the assault weapons. i really think if is confusing to the public if you don't have the assault weapons all reported on in the same report even if standard use is not required to be included in that. and i wanted to to harken back to 2 of my previous comments i made. i really do think it really is
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important to have this ordinance tied to the budget process. i think it will allow the public and the board members an opportunity to really use that information that is going to be in this annual report to the public's benefit and make sure that we are engaging in the time discussion around what ab481 requires. i'm a fan of [inaudible] i mentioned it. your time elapsed. thank you. can we have our next caller, please? >> can you hear me okay. proceed. >> great. dave you'd pillpel. i wanted to appreciate the work that supervisor peskin and staff and others behind the scene and the police department have made on this policy.
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and improvements, fine tuning and checking so i support the policy and the ordinance as most reasonable amendd and a somewhat unrelated topic sad to learn that holings of the sheriff's department passed last week he was a wonderful person and will be missed. thank you very much for listening >> thank you. next caller. hello i'm paul brilly i live in san francisco in bayview. i represent all of us or none. i want to thank you for the improvements to the proposed policy but i do ask the board of supervisors to call for further improvements on the military equipment use policy to more fully define authorized use for
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all weapons. and including the 600 assault rifles the weapons are misused and the policy does not safe guard the public's welfare. i am [inaudible] and i realize that officers ride around with assault rifleis keep it defined the authorized use. i literally stop and frisked and [inaudible] for loitering. defund the authorize use because the weapons are misused. thank you. >> thank you. that was our last phone in commenter. >> thank you, we'll close public comment on item number 2. and in let me start by saying this has been an interesting exercise that has been forced upon us about our now city
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attorney. and his then colleagues in the california state legislator assembly bill 41 applying to san francisco and cities and counties are doing this around the state of california. and we i spent significant amount of time looking at other policies in different counties in oakland and the around the bay area. the speakers are right this . is an on going process. this will be done on an annual basis by this and future board of supervisors. approximate part of my thinking, i think part of the interaction i had with the department was trying to create the base line for future generations of boards to measure against and fine tuneful over time as it relates to synchronizing this process with the budget process, i would offer the following
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observations, which is everything is synchronized with the budget process. the budget process is pretty much an on going process every year. it is starting for next year right about now. so -- the way i envision third degree will be getting this report before a budget is adopted. we do it every 12 months. if there are needs to adjust things monetarily we will have that opportunity. as the private arrive action, there are certain rare instance where private rights of action are warranted as a matter of policy, they are few approximate far between. i don't think this this one rised to it. at least not yet. i think the fund ammal notion is to give an inspect oversight body in this case the san francisco board of supervisors,
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the ability to monitor and make ajustments as necessary. and i for one was not did not cotton to the notion of a private right of action at least not yet and hopeful low not ever. in this process it was really about balancing authorized use and purpose knowing that we live in a world this is full of january 6 insurrections and pretty crazy things that can happen that we need to be prepared for. in the same time, at the same time that we don't want to see nor frank low have we seen in quite a time, displays of militarization that are not necessary. i think the pd fundamental gets
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that but this process now and in the future will allow will the elected civilian body to over see that. so, with that colleagues, i'm prepared. supervisor chan, my apologies. >> thank you chair peskin i want to thank you for your leadershipom this and taking the timism think we have been having this discussion for a time now. i really appreciate also that sfpd working with our team and taking our feedback. we asked specifically you know in your annual report not just to include the time and purpose of use and if injuries sustained. that was the gospel understand the impact of the equipment have on san francisco or anyone being in the city and when any time incidents occur that require sfpd using military equipment
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what impact physical impacts on the people in the city. we appreciate the feedback that you have taken and willing to accept and so -- i look forward to supportive to the policy. but will continue to monitor the annual report and have an open dialogue and on going conversation about how to address and adjust the inventory and he whether it is necessary or you know how do we extend if necessary to balance the public safety goals that we have. and i do agree with chair peskin mentioning january 6. as a good example of seeing that we do need our police force to be ready in the events that we under attack physical attack as a city. thank you and thank you chair peskin. >> thank you supervisor chan. seeing no other names on the roster i will make a motion to
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sends the policy as revised with a positive recommendation to the full board of supervisoros this motion, a roll call >> on that motion supervisor chan. >> aye >> vice chair mandelman. >> aye. >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> the motion passes without objection. >> and now we get to grapple with the sheriff's department. not today but soon. >> thank you mrs. steves and captain marina and to everybody at the department who participated in this, mr. clerk, next item, please. >> next on the agenda is item 3. ordinance amending the administrative code revise definitions of gender identity, sex and sexual orientation and gender description in 12b approximate c revise age in 12a.
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and 12b and resunrise the definition of disability in chapters 12a, b and c. >> okay. paulineo. the last we scheduled you said we had to continue because of a meet and conifer obligation what has happened to that? >> thank you. it seems dhr had taken a look at this item and they have no jurisdiction it applies to city contractors. >> got it, okay. meet and conifer going, gone. with that, we will go to jude from hrc. >> hi, thank you. so in reviewing our code the san francisco human right's commission involve rights identified definitions for protection out dated and a problem. some of the fixes were easier to
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identify removing the age gap from age discrimination aline to state law. sexual orientation required more work. i work with our former legal inturn lisa bottswelinterviewed experts. reviewed california laws and other jurisdictions, worked with the hrv lgbt subcommittee and approval prosecute the city attorney's office. we ask the proposals be approved so the ordinances we enforce the civil rights reflect the communities we protect. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. hi. i'm matthew, i'm with the san francisco human right's commission civil right's division. want to add a bit of explanation as jude mentioned, this proposal is cleaning up problem
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definitions that currently exist in the code and to give you an example one of the definitions is the definition of age, currently our administrative code caps the definition of age for employment discrimination purposes at age 65. and that was it is case at the time this law of written that it was also capped ourndz state and federal law. since state and federal law evolved and increased the age gap and remove today entirely but remains in our ordinance so we want to e eliminate that. the definition for disability is currently alined with the narrower more restrictive under federal lu. rather than the broader definition under california state law. which does d not exist the time that the local law was written. and i wanted mention that we do have letter of support from director bone of the mayor's office on disability that i
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believe was sent to the supervisors this morning. and we would be happy to answer questions and the supervisors have about this proposal. >> we are in receipt of nicole's letter and i have no questions i read it left time and it is the same as this time. and i know that vice chair mandelman is a cosponsor i don't know if you have questions or comments? good ahead. >> thank you chair peskin. really only to express thanks and gratitude to the jefferson and he the mayor's office for sponsoring this. >> there we go. is there public comment on item 3? >> chair peskin before we move on i wanted to be sure that i heard correct low that meet and conifer is in the required >> that is correct. >> yes. >> members who wish to speak on this item and joining in person line up to speak. at this time. for those remote call 415-655-0001 then access code:
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2486 917 6560 ## and press star 3 to enter the queue. for those in the queue continue to wait until the system indicated you are unmuted that is your queue to begin your comment. no one in the room for public comment and there is nobody on the phone line on this matter. >> okay. public comment on item 3 is closed. and supervisor mandelman would you like to dot honors? >> i will move we forward this to the full board with positive recommendation. >> roll call. >> to that motion supervisor chan. >> aye. >> chair mandelman. >> aye >> chair peskin. >> aye. >> that motion passed. >> we are adjourned.
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and reimagining our city our guest is the general manager of the san francisco rec and parks, with us to talk about new parks, music and other developments. mr. ginsberg, welcome. >> thank you a pleasure to be here >> nice to see you again. >> last time was during the pandemic and virtual. so it is good to be back here. >> indeed. before we get in specifics, let's start with a broad question, how can will park's system play a part in the economic recovery? >> well, our parks system playing an important role throughout the pandemic. parks were here when people in san francisco needed them the most. a place where people could gather and could care for mentality health and fizz cat health and have a sense of community and a sense of place during a really weird time.
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and now that things are reopening and figure out how to recover, parks are going to continue to play a significant role >> people are out and having a good time. there are special events happening in parks. concerts and the weather is good. the best way parks play a role in our economic recovery is to motivate -- people to come to our city from other places and to motivate our residents to get out and enjoy themselves >> exciting to her we opened a new park and there is another. what is special about the 2 new projects? >> sure. san francisco is going through, i think, a park renaissance. we opened the francisco park, which is just magnificent property that sits on top of an old reservoir dating back to the
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gold rush and has tremendous views of the golden gate bridge and bay and a place where you can bring kids. a cool play ground to bring dogs an amazing dog park. a meadow to watch the fireworks. fog willing. fleet week, community gardens, it is just such an incredible unique space. we are proud of it. >> and then right down the road in a few years, we will be pleased to welcome everybody to india basin in the bay view in the southeast part along the southern water front. 1.7 miles of waterfront that until recently has been under utilized and under fulfill in the a community this needs it the most. india basin is really a feel moment for the bay view and
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southeastern part of san francisco. it is going to be san francisco's next great and one of the most important parks >> that's fantastic. now, we have a great history of having conference in parks. can you touch on the year's highlights? >> upcoming and on going. this is something i'm particularly excited about. i don't think there is ever have been more music in san francisco parks than there is right now >> so, let's go around the city and talk about music. stern grove, is in the 85th concert season. back after the pandemic. in this just fabulously treasured meadow. free concerts all summer long. in golden gate park, at the man shell not guilty music concourse free concerts 4 days a week. wednesday, friday, saturday and sundays. we have sing are song writer
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wednesday. jazz and seoul on friday. communities performances on saturdays of different kindses and sundays reggae it is extraordinary. and of course, later this summer we are pleased to welcome back outside lands for an exciting 3 days and 3 nights of incredible concerts and food and community. as we go across the city, we got wonderful performances in the jerry theatre in mc clarnin park a special jerry day coming back to the theatre. on june 21st we had make music day appearing all over the city in park in civic center. on the marina green. again in golden gate park. it has been a great time for music and ties into the recovery and the tremendous energy where we are feeling and -- you know
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anybody who says san francisco is struggling needs to hang out in the park system. where well is joy and beaut and he inspiration every day. >> so, the san francisco board of supervisors passed legislation to make jfk drive in will golden gate park car free. how have residents responds. >> the san francisco residents responds positive. families. bicyclists, joggers, people with dogs and people from every corner of san francisco have discovered that jfk promenade is a treasure. it enhances the parks so much. imagine a beautiful day in the park and weather on foot or on bike you are strolling down jfk, you pass sixth avenue and head to the music concourse for a concert or the museum; it is
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joyous and made golden gate park sproord. i have been hering about disk golf and pickle ball. can you tell us about and where people can practice and play. >> i knew you were going. pickle ball the fastest growing sports. you know across between 10 and is ping pong and may be with a whiffle ball. ping pong on a life sized course it is easy to learn about skill based people who are good are irrelevant good and it is easy to play. it is fun and accessible. we are trying to accommodate sport. we have over 55 courts around san francisco. 11 dedicated just for pickle balt others per pickle ball and tennis. we have 5 or 10 space you can play pickle ball indoors and
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keeping up with the tremendous popularity of the sport. disk golf has a loyal following it is also going to continue to growch we opened our first disk golf course in golden gate park in 2005. and you know, whether you are an expert at disk golf or beginner, the idea of chucking a frisbee through the beautiful park and. it does not matter what you score t. is just a good excuse to be outside and enjoy a beautiful day in nature. >> exactly. well, thank you. i really appreciate you coming on the show, thank you for the time you have given us tuesday. >> thank you, i hope everybody enjoys summer. get out and play in san francisco's parks.
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