hi. everyone. it is working. >> okay. on a beautiful, rainy day gathered here to talk about public utility's commission items we have in front of us today. madam secretary, please call the first item >> roll call. >> ajami. >> hee >> vice president maxwell >> aye. >> paulson.

>> here >> commissioner rivera. >> here >> commissioner stacy. >> here >> due to the healing emergency and the recommendations issued by the san francisco d. public health and the emergency order the governor and mayor concerning social distancing and lifting restrictions on teleconference this meeting is via teleconference and televised by sfgovtv. be aware well is a time lapse with the live meeting and what is viewod sfgov.org. thank you to sfgovtv staff for assistance. if you wish to comment dial 415-655-0001 then access code: 2487 556 5294 ## press star 3 to speak. you must limit your comment to the topic discussed unless under

general public comment. chair can interrupt and ask to you stick to the agenda item. be respect and will refrain from profanity. address remarks to the commission as a whole and not individuals. >> the first item of i would like to announce san francisco public utilities acknowledges stewards of the lands within the historic territory tribes mission sand hoseef alameda county and recognizes every citizen residing within the greater bay area has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation of the tribe, lands. before and after the san francisco puc founding in 1932.

it important we not only rescue noise the history of the tribal land but also acknowledge and honor the fact that the people have established a working partnership with the puc and productive and flourishing member in the greater san francisco bay area communities today. call the first item. >> item 3, adopt fining in state emergency legislation to allow hybrid/in person meeting and direct the second to agendize a resolution at a meeting within the next 30 days. have public common law. member who is wish to comment on item 3 press story 3 to speak. anyone present to provide comment on this item? do we have callers with hands

raised for item 3? there is one caller in the queue >> this is for item 3. >> thank you. chair ajam sxhe commissioners i'm bari nelson i'm call nothing to introduce myself and our coalition. mr. hillson this is for item 3 adoption of state legislation. i thought i heard said public comment i will wait. thank you. there are no more callers in the queue. >> public comment on item low is closed. can i have a motion and second?

move to approve. >> second. >> please call the role. >> president ajami. >> aye >> maxwell. >> aye >> paulson. >> aye. >> rivera. >> aye. >> commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> you have 5 aye's. >> item passes and please call the next item. >> item 4 approval of the minutes of the special meeting of october 24 of 22. any comments? on the minutes? can we have public comment? members whether wish to comment on item 4 approval of the minutes press star 3 to speak. do we have members present who wish to comment on item 4? do we have callers with hands raised? >> there is one caller in the queue. i opened your line you have 2

minutes. >> can you hear me okay? loud and clear. excellent. david pillpel i was unable to reach the commission secretary this morningil share with her minor edits after the meeting or tomorrow on 5 page. i think given the public comment at the last meeting and the technical, she did a fine job of sum rising what happened. good minutes and i will share the edits shortly. thank you. there are no more callers in the queue >> public comment on item 4 is closed. >> can i have a motion and second. >> moved. >> second. joof take the call of the roll >> president ajami. >> aye >> vice president maxwell. >> aye. >> commissioner paulson. >> aye >> rivera.

>> aye. >> commissioner stacy. >> aye. >> 5 aye's. >> item passes and madam secretary call the next item. >> next is 5 general public comment. member who is wish to make 2 minutes of general public comment on matters in the jurisdiction but not on the agenda today press star 3 to raise your hand. do we have members present to provide general public comment? do we have callers with hands raised? >> there are 5 callers in the queue. i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> sounds good. david pillpel. 5 upon points. following up on a comment that i made at the last meeting i understand and see from the calendared item list is new puc

letterhead. next, i enjoyed the revenue bond committee tour of the ocean side treatment plant last friday morning and i have not been there in awhile. new building with recycled water facility. i did not visit but will in the future. tour was great. next, i was not able to give public comment at the end of the last meeting on items 16, 17 and 18 but would not have changed the outcome and its fine. next i note the apparent water main break yesterday at union and fillmore. the quick repair work by proved despite the difficult work environment and the weather. and i note the over night and expected upon rainfall which is good on the water side and the affect on wastewater plants and

process as well. ch that's all i very much vehicle. thank you. next caller, you have 2 minutes. >>ed upon commissioners i would like to talk about huge development by lake merced and other huge developments in the city that are planned. without redoing an upon sound need's assessment. we talk about conversation and yet we think we can provide sewer and clean drinking water to over 6-7,000 new units.

and lake merced. where you are planning build 3,000 new units already over 1, 100 units are empty and have been. the general manager and the commission. and we have to be mindful [inaudible] that we are not upgrading our existing clean water pipes.

thank you very much. thank you. i would like to thank staff for gracious ness and professionalism during the november fourth tour of the ocean side treatment facility. the existing infrastructure is partner low built beneath the zoo rec and park land and [inaudible] national guard facility on federal land this indicates a number of jurisdictional, have been worked out. the new water facility on 3 levels at the ocean side. they indicate that the site is fully built out. this begs the questions, what future puc expansion under the

site of the former pool on rec and park land. extends 4 and a half mile in thes pacific and partial low within the monterey bay sanctuary bound easier. this seems to indicate that the jurisdictional issue has been work the out. this begs the question how this would play you out with a new golden gate sanctuary and the ocean beach and the eccollusion area on the monterey bay sanctuary? thank you. >> thank you. next caller you have 2 minutes. >> thank you. i'm dave warner, thank you for you were service.

wait to thank you for item 7c. a topic not examined closely are water rates our wholesale rates are the highest in the state of major water supplier. 2, projected to increase 50% in the next 10 years. i'm not certain but as commissioners you should know how water rates compare to other agencies and where they will be 10 years from now. ask staff to update you on water rates the update should cover, how they compared to other major supply nears california. where are water rates 10iers from now and what assumptions are they based on. how different levels of demand affect the water rate sns the bonds affect the water rates how far in the future. this point could be the own agenda item. 5, how funding for alternate

water splice affect the rates. all these seem important knowledge fundamential to issues and decisions water rateos a steep path. that can affect how we play for water splice. paid off the next decade funt for additional funding. rused demand causes water to go up more should we understand that relationship. the length of design affected supply planning affects water rates this should be understood. consider asking staff to address these items if you don't know the answers i don't the thank you. >> next caller? >> this is bari nelson. apologize for jumping the gun

earlier. i am calling immediately during general public comment and then later on 7c to welcome commissioner stacy to the commission. association is in san francisco. we represent the california salmon fishing community. that community is facing growing challenges because our salmon runs you will hear today are in trouble. that is per of a larger crisis facing the ecosystem in rivers. our groups and our alis are doing work to address that. the issues are a major part of that. and the last several years we appeared before the puc many times to talk about the ecosystem protection and science. we also have been work to ensure that the puc has reliable water splice. commissioner stays, welcome we

look forward to working with and you you will hear from a number of us later today on item 7c. thank you. >> public comment is closed. >> thank you. please, call the next item >> item 6, communications. >> any comments about the communication provided by the staff? i want to thank everybody for information i appreciated reading the reports provided by the power side on solar panels and and -- demand and supply for the balance you are dealing watch i appreciate that. thank you very much.

and -- do we need? public comment? thank you. >> members of public when wish to make comment on item 6 communications press star 3 to speak. do we have members present to provide comment on item 6? mr. moderator do we have callers for item 6? there is one caller in the queue. great. daved pillpel a brief comment on 6c related at a previous meeting i was concerned from reports from the board of supervisors provided to the commission that was an among late this report was the next available commission meeting which is today i appreciate the time liness of the copy of

communications to the commission. that's all. thank you very much. thank you. there are no more callers in the queue >> public comment is closed. >> please call the next item >> item 7 report of the general manager. >> thank you, item 7 aa commission update from steve ritchie. good afternoon steve rich hope the microphone is coming through limp i will provide the drought condition update that i do including that is happening in

the last day or so. >> our reservoir storage is -- has not changed much. at this point we are not seeing a lot of run off now. the hempy storage is about 73% normal for this time year. water bank is down 45% that is the one concerning item on the slide. upon the other california residence wires again the project residence virus in the central valley project, shasta and orville are 31%. folsom 31st % capacity. throughout california the water

projects are short on storage this is of concern to the state for sure. california draught monitor this picture has not changes. may be tell change next week when we seat results of the starm coming through. this was prepared the line is flat on the woman. 2 inches of rain that is good and an inch of rain at the higher could you want real is a foot of snow.

october was dismal. the ends of the day the sick station index is about 2 and a quarter inches. so -- the first week of november and already about 2 thirds of the way to normal for this time of year. i don't have updated numbers i will speak from my house in oak land rang at midnight last night and did not stop until noon today. we got a shot in the arm from this storm. on the snow pack front a foot or 2 at high elevations the snow level down to 4,000 feet about hetch hetchy. no paths are closed for traffic well is a winter storm warning out snow throughout the sierra

this storm is covering all the way from chico to bakersfield a good shot for the state over all. >> water available to the city we see there is little. coming in october from the storm we will see more in the system. and as a result of this the state board last week suspend curtailments on river diversions, we are able to divert water again. there is water in the streams. last year, in october they started the suspendd and did in the reinstate them until some time earlier this spring i believe it was. we will see how it goes. but if the stream flow continuous curtailments will stay suspended that's the way it worked last year.

the precipitation forecast shows last week and the concern week definitely a lot of activity. nice red and orange colors in california which is when we have been missing for a long time the week after not much. for now we are benefitting from the storms. and lastly, the slide is the most important out of these. is in the demand of the total deliveries. this shoes 1 quick million gallons per day this is tracking close to 2015. i just sought latest from last friday and dropped down to 171 million dollars this week. tracking close low to 2015. we are doing as well as the last drought overnight last 10 weeks or so. that has been a good sievenl

degree below 2020 and way below 2013. those are good signs. again, look to next year, we'll see where we are you know make november early december and start talking in early january about what do we do next for seeing precipitation that will be good. if not talking with our wholesalers about alternatives to manage our supply the coming year. happy to answer questions. >> any questions? is there any way in the slide that we showed the precipitation, month low versus average. is there a way to have a bar chart that are shows from 2,000 to now i wonder how they the patterns are changing or at all.

would that be possible. >> we can show different things. i just saw very interesting data yesterday that for the 3 month period i believe it was january through march. if you look at 2021. lowest 3 mont in that period then and there we had before. it was by a lot. little precipitation. that is the data we will share more showing that things are changing >> right and seat bars and how the trendses are month to month. again thshg is one data point, one way of showing it but good on have it. >> another graph showed how we assess probability of what will

happen. we have our period of record and one there was 2021, off the chart. other end 2017, off the chart. extreme what is we are seeing. >> the bars would be great, too. we will see wa we can do. it may take work but we can do things. thank you. >> one question mr. ritchie. i don't know if i saw this yesterday or this morning. . yesterday in the l.a. times or chronicle or a mass piece that was in the public but some anecdote someone said we saved 20 billion gallons. i forgot if you saw it. how would that be interpreted to a commissioner or someone watching. >> the l.a. times i saw before i

came here and i think it was 6 billion gallons. billions of gallons when you talk about a large service area that's what they had to do in north western los angeles. they had to comfortable a lot. for our system this year as a whole i believe the number is 3 billion gallons we saved during this time period. people are saving a lot of water in total. >> could have been a brag piece for l.a. they were hit hard y. they had a 35% reduction and people responded. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. okay. . members who wish to make comment

on 7 athe drought commission update press star 3 to speak. do we have anyone present to provide comment on 7a? well is one caller wish to be recognized. your line is open you have 2 minutes. >> commissioners, it would be nice [inaudible] for us to invite the local tribes from the region to give their comment on the situation at hand. and also photographs of the river. >> for thousands of years the

prize result protected the rivers. we talk about the salmon. and we don't do that. & who is the ordinance of 23,000 years referring to the tribes and give honor to the salmon. if not we'll fall flat on our face. kilt land and water. talk about how much we saved but we don't follow the act. when you follow the act. you should see who is useings the water. all we care about is telling the water to the highest bidder.

thank you. thank you for your comments. >> there are no more callers in the queue. public comment is closed. item 8 perform review report i like to take into account opportunity to many of you seen nancy hahns the department cfo for the agency we were proud over the summer promoted her to the cfo for business services and happy that she agreed to take the job! and i know that for all of that you had the opportunity to deal with her you have seen professional willism. that's hai think impressed me and the panel. in during the interview process. we're happy to have nancy in the

new position i will let her say a few words and introduce our next presentser. >> thank you for the kind words. i started 3 months ago. i served in the city for 18 years with the controller and then child support office. i look forward to working with you. and if you have questions you are woman to contact me. the audit director for the quarter low audit and performance review report.

some of you worked with her in her new position. we are lucko have her as a newarkdition to our executive team and for those of you who don't know her i will let her share about her background she serving in the position in city government inspect different agencies we are luck tow have her here as well and has the best laugh, too. always has good humor and professional. >> thank you. welcome commissioner stacy and rivera. audit director for the sfpuc i started in the city 12 years ago in controller's office as a part of city service auditor manager.

from there befwan on go to the tax collector's office the chief auditor there and also at the mta a grant's ash counting manager. thank you for having me today. i'm here to present the audit updates. in the first quarter 4 audits 14 percent completed. 15 or 54% for the year are in progress and 9or 32% of the audit in thes portfolio are upcoming. >> for the audits that were issued for first quarter they included the post audit by office of controller on august first. and the sfpuc audit physical inventory about the p you c

finance team on september 7 of 22. covered water, wastewater and hetch hetchy. bureau is monitoring open audit recommendations throughout the agency to ensurety recommendations are on track to be addressd and implemented by the deadlines. currently, of the 7 total recommendations issued for social impact program remain open external, fairs is addressing. 3 of those recommendations have been implementd and closed by office controller city service auditor. the 2 recommendations for revenue fwounlds audit on track and the audit bruro in communication on the recommendations. >> the out look for audits complete instead second quarter includes the 2021.

22, fiscal year audit and financial statements. the franchise fee audit pg and e and energy center for limited liability company. 2020-21 fiscal year wholesale revenue requirement with changes in balancing ash count. 2021-22 fiscal year annual comprehensive financial report. upon 21 and 22 fiscal popular financial report. sue are system contract audit for 165 and information technology operational technology network audit. >> the 2020 through 22 california independent system operator scheduling coordinator

audit for hetch hetchy and the revenue lease audit for crystal springs. san francisco puc revenue bond program audit phase 2. the statement changes approximate balancing account and the 22 through 23 fiscal year connections security agreement. as well as the management cyber security assessment. i'm available for questions thank you very much. welcome to both of you. wonderful to have you. comments or questions? >> i wanted to welcome both of you and we are quite fortunate

to have an everaccomplished people working for us. thank you very much for coming over. great to have a positive attitude. great to have people who laugh and bring brightness to the day. so. >> okay. can we have public comment. >> mechanic who is wish to comment on item 7 b the audit report. press star 3 to speak. do we have callers with hands raised? >> there is one caller in the queue. >> i opened your line you have 2 minutes. >> commissioners, i would like to see the audit report on the building 1515 evans.

and like to see twhan audit the final audit. this is what we do. rejoice we get new employees. upon comment on the demeanor, that's fine. but i would like to see a final audit on the building 1550, who signod it. after quality control was done? thank you very much. >> thank you. there are no more callers in the queue. >> thank you. public comment on 7 b is closed. >> 7d report on san francisco puc commission activities. and it is a brief thing i wanted -- do we have 7c?

>> apologies the river background and you want. bill spaers the present. >> good afternoon commissioners. i'm phil serious a policy analyst with national resource at the sfpuc. today i will present on biology for you. on salmon on the river and look at the statement the number of adult fish coming and history and challenges.

tuolumne in the upon spring they are on higher flows usually the snow melt flows from the river. >> after that time they are migrating spend 2-4 years at sea and come back as adults. >> what is the statement?

literally adult fish escaping harvest and mortality to arrive back in the river as adults. to look at this mathematically the number of juveniles that go out in spring and subtracting mortality they are experiencing and harvest they experience you have lower tuolumne the san joaquin, big delta ocean mortality. harvest in ocean and fresh water environment and prespawn that die before they are able to spawn that gets you the natural fall run escapement. this it is not include escapement from hatchery fish in the system from other river systems and hatcheries, cow do we know what is happening with the fish on the tuolumne. there are 2 ways we monitor the population on the tuolumne river. adults counted on their way in. there is a spot that indicates

the low are tuolumne river adult count thanksgiving is where they count adults coming in. and 2 locations on the river, they track juveniles in the spring headed out of the river. theful 2 traps serve the give us the total number of juveniles headed out and more talitity and understand that is happening between the 2 traps. how is this looking so far this fall? here is a plot showing passage at the rear. and this year is in black. might be difficult to see there but so this is indicating we got low escapement. low numbers compared to recent years. when i put this together a week ago we were on parwith last

year. and updates from yesterday have us escape am at 356 pish puts us on parwith purple line of 2020. tuolumne run declining over democracied. this is the plot of escapement from -- apologize for the tiny numbers from 1952-2021. the populations gone through cycles in the past more and less fish. you see that were they don't get a break over time. there is a series of droughts. ocean fisheries collapse closed the fishery in 2008 and 9. a company bright spots the wetter years in the past tended to produce higher numbers of fish and the settle am agreement

the ssa that was implemented in 98 resulting in higher flows on the river. the spring flow escapement is broken down in the past you have a lot of adults coming back that has not worked for the last 15 years. used to be this clear relationship but does not seem to be working. escapement again like the last slide. spring flows over it 2 natural years later that shoes the break down in the last 3 peeks to the right. what are the factors to low escapements? one is that juveniles don't survive their trip. ow migrating to the ocean. they don't make it typically. also the tuolumne escapement is hatchery fish. not fish from the tuolumne.

and due to the hatchery strays we lost the natural adapted population the natural population, it it is gone. and one other factor that hatchery fish that are spawning in the river and have juveniles coming out of the river, than i have low are productivity in general than natural fish would. one problem is that the commercial and recerational harvest does not distinguish. so -- the natural fish are captured and that is rudzing the population. and just for context the commercial harvest for fall run schnook over 2014 to 18 is 53% and 68% of the adult population. we had drought.

ocean collapsed. in dry years, we have nonnative invasive plants that blocks passage in the san joaquin and tuolumne river. okay. so haare we doing about it? the sfpuc per to the voluntary agreement. and it contains measures that are designed to increase productive tit and surverify in the river for juveniles. habitat restoration that is on going. flood plain rearing flows. larger spring pulse flows. and there is a pervasion suppression component should increase survival. but continuing is important to note the strays will under mine our efforts despite all the

additional work because they are continuing to degrade the natural population of the tuolumne river. so -- to mention where the hatcheries are. there are 5 am 4 are operated in by california fish and wildlife one by the united states fish and wildlife and throughout the central valfresouth to north there. moving

is r. my name is debra alvarez rodriguez. i'm the deputy director in san francisco. my background is one in which i have spent the entirety of my life committed to finding solution to poverty and addressing the issues of inequity so people and communities can have accesses to resources and financial freedom. one thing true anode dear to my heart was the power of business ownership in creating pathways to financial freedom. we have still in infancy. we had over 100 entrepreneurs come and start their businesses. some are food trucks. some are restaurants. some are in farmer's markets and so farther. that's an incredible legacy and record to build upon. this was the perfect opportunity for me to come back home, you know, come back to the neighborhood and take

my skills and networks and resources and put it backseat in service of the community. given everything with racial reckoning and pandemic it was time for me and everyone else that had the opportunity to leave and get educated to come back home. we have a opportunity to grow our impact in terms of the number of people we serve and how we serve them. we grow our impact in taking the money we make with our entrepreneurs and circulate those resources back interview the community for community development. the third thing is we have a opportunity to have an impact on public policy in terms of the policies and practices the district has been notorious about interms of inequities. all of those are just the beginning of what is possible in terms of growth and

impact. ♪ [ music ] ♪♪ >> when i open up the paper every day, i'm just amazed at how many different environmental issues keep popping up. when i think about what planet i want to leave for my children and other generations, i think about what kind of contribution i can make on a personal level to the environment. >> it was really easy to sign up for the program. i just went online to cleanpowersf.org, i signed up and then started getting pieces in the mail letting me know i was going switch over and poof it happened. now when i want to pay my bill,

i go to pg&e and i don't see any difference in paying now. if you're a family on the budget, if you sign up for the regular green program, it's not going to change your bill at all. you can sign up online or call. you'll have the peace of mind knowing you're doing your part in your household to help the environment.

jury room good morning. welcome to the awning meeting. the november meeting -- of the lafco commission. i'm connie chan chair. i'm joined by fielder. mar and sairng. clerk is, lisa sa mara and like to thank the staff from sfgovtv. >> members will participate as if they were present. opinion comment available on each item on this upon agenda. and sfgov.org are streaming the number across the stream. call 415-655-0001, access code: 2495 729 8961 ## when connected

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the minutes. madam clerk. call the roll. >> on the roll. chair chan. >> present. >> vice chair fielder. >> present. >> commissioner mar. >> present. >> commissioner williams. >> present. >> you have a quorum. >> thank you and madam clerk call item number 2. >> item 2 is the findings allow teleconferenced meeting under california code. members who wish to provide comment call 415-655-0001 then press star 3 to enter the queue. wait until we call for public

comment and you have been unmuted. before we make the motion to adopt the findings can we open public comment on this item? >> i state the if you have not done so press story 3 to speak. we have [inaudible] joining us rung the web exhe is checking to see if we have callers. there are none. >> public comment is closed. i would like to make the motion to approve the findings and may have i second? >> second. >> thank you vice chair fielder. madam clerk? >> item 2 vice chair fielder. >> aye. >> commissioner mar. >> aye. >> commissioner williams. >> aye.

>> chair chan. aye >> thank you, madam clerk this motion has been approved without objection. could you call item 3? item 3 approval of the lafco minutes from october 21, 22 meeting. members who wish to comment call the number streaming across the screen. dial star 3 and wait until we call for comment on this item and the system indicated you have been unmuted. >> thank you. i don't see anything on the roster. so we will be no changes to the minutes. so, let's open this for public comment. >> thank you. press star 3 to line up to sfeek. we have no callers in the queue.

>> thank you. is well a motion to approve the minutes. so moved. >> thank you. >> i will second commissioner mar's motion. and madam clerk call the roll. >> the motion for item 3 vice chair fielder. >> aye. >> commissioner mar. >> aye. >> commissioner williams. >> aye. >> chair chan. >> aye. >> there are 4 aye's. >> thank you. this motion item has been approved without objections. would you please call item 4. >> item 4 community choice aggregation activity's report. members who wish to provide comment call the number and

meeting id streaming cross your screen. press story 3 to line up to speak. wait until yooe we call public comment and you are unmute then begin your comments. >> thank you. i'm seeing a new title here i should introduce the director mike hines is that a promotion? i seat deputy assistant general manager for clean power sf. you can respond. >> good morning to you and the other commissioners i'm mike hines. i have not been promolted but used a couple titles interchangeablely. i'm the deputy assistant general manager for power responsible for clean power sf program temperature is a mouthful i go

director for short. i'm sorry for the confusion. appreciate the congratulations. i have a report and some slidesil share. chair, can you seat slides. >> it is in the in presenter mode i'm not sure how we adjust that. i'm going to move into presentation mode.

today i'm going to briefly cover our statistics as a usually do and i will provide an update on activities related our generation rates and ends with our customer program's work. we continued to serve our customers and enrollment and participation in the program remains stable. so we have noticed significant statistics changes in our enrollment to report today. but i did want to note we are expecting news on our super green sales forecast going in to 2023, i hope at a future meetingil have good news to share with you about that. related to residential customer and response to the city's curb

renewable ordinance. the super green enrollment in the future. last year the commission approved time of use or tou rates. as the default reality for clean power residential customers and authorizationed the transition in july of 2021. this new default rate encourages custody norse manage costs by shifting usage from peek hours defiance 4 to 9 p.m. every day to hours when market prices and green house gas emissions from electric are lower.

and you see the peek and off peek periods depicted here in the illustration on this slide. the past july the completion of the 12 month bill protection period for the time use transition. customers defaulted in the time use rate last july. able to switch to a different rate offering. such as flat generation rate. 85% of the customers or kohn 143 thousand accounts stay on the rate for the first 12 months. we reported to the sfpuc commission that the majority of customers defall faulted would be neutral or benefit from the

transition. our post build protection period confirmed that nearly all customers concluded the build protection period were neutral or benefited and only ad a customers a build protection credit. the table on the slide summarizes that analysis and the bill impact to participating customers. shoes nonbenefitting, neutral and benefitting accounts and the change innual bills relative they would have paid under a flat rate. nonbenefitting customer saw a small increase of about a dollar 50 per mont on average. we have new rates that i wanted share with you this morning. and that is the implementation of a new proelectrification rate for residential customers. in 2020, the california puc

ordered pg and e to develop and offer a new rate schedule to manage electric cost when is usage increases due to electrification measures. and -- in response to the order pge developed a rate schedule that replaces a portion of the volumetric rate the rate customers pay for kilowatt hours consumed with a fixed fee. the new rate employs time of use periods like the rate i just describe and eliminates the rate tiers increase rates for higher usage. the e electorate schedule is available that install electric vehicle charging. energy storage system like batteries or heat pumping for

water heating and space heating and cooling. to ensure we have equal access to the new rate. clean power sf is crediting a new generation to complement or pair the pg and ee elect distribution rate. we participate bringing a proposal to the sfpuc commission for adoption in january. so and we will brief you on how that goes. shift to the last portion of my report on clean power customer programs. clean power sf offers programs that help customers manage their energy costs. reduce carbon footprint and aline with environmental goals. this is a table that we shown on the past identifying our operating programs and new programs we have under

development. we offer net energy metering for customers that have solar on the roof tops and just wrapping up our 2022 cash out upon process for customers net generators overnight previous year. we offer budget billing for customers looking for stable and consistent monthly bills. good solar sf continue to be available for low income custody naers install solar. last year we launch the solar inverter replace am program that replaces the essential component for low income customers that previously installed solar using go solar and inverters failed or reaching end of lives. this program helps keep the customers solar projects

operating. proiszing is our response program for large commercial customers. wrapped up our 20 upon 22 peek day pricing the end of october called 11 of 12 possible event days including 4 days that were called during the historic heat wave in september. we notoriety process of getting bill crediteds and responded boy reducing demand. we share more about the performance of the program early next year. we reported to you in the past about regional heat pump water heater incentive program providing training to contractors to promote heat pump water heaters. we had 27 applications since may we are ramping up out roach to educate them about this and other programs that can reduce

the costs of this important decarbonidation technology. we are working with our program part norse extend it through 2025 to meet customer demand. we are offering our new super green safer program for disadvantaged community provideings 100% renewable energy and 20% electric bill discount to qualifying customers live nothing disadvantaged community. we enrolls 165 customers in the super green safer and purke more enrollment to direct mail and in person events. >> and of course we work on new programs. ev charge sf is a new construction charge being incentive program that is currently available to hetch hetchy power customers and expanding to clean power

customers next year. ev charge sf aline with change in san francisco's building code that required developers to provide electric vehicle charge nothing new parking lots and garages. provides financial incentives and technical assistance to new and recent construction that is subject to the city's readiness ordinance. requires a 10% of parking space turn key ready per ev charger installation. we reported to you in the past about our energy efficiency for foodservices program. that is under development. this would offer energy efficiency to small, medium and large businesses in the foodservice sector. grocery stores. refrigerates warehouse. restaurants and food banks and shelters, for example. tell be paid for by rate payor

fund by the california sfpuc. we are preparing an rfp for implementation and evaluation service for the program. targeting the launch of this program in mitt of 23 and last but in the least is the disadvantaged communities solar program a companion to the super green safer and we are targeting enrollment to customers it 24/25. will be issuing a new solicitation to procure community solar energy in san francisco in 2023. and that program can launch once those projects become operation al that concludes my prepared remarks and happy to answer

questions you may have. vice chair fielder >> thank you director for this. i had a question about the rate for customers that are having who have essential low decarbonized a part of their power. the new rate scheme how does s that being communicated to customers? >> you know, i need to get become to you as far as what pg and e is doing. we have not developed our own out reach plan for the rate yet. but we absolutely will notify dust mers. if the rate is adopted. and approved for implementation. notifying them of the opportunity to participate. my expectation is when we will

do is try to incorporate communications about this rate with program offerings like heat pump water heaters, for example. we will promote heat pump water heats as a decarbtechnology and say, we have a rate that will help you add this electricity demand without significant additional bill impacts. >> thank you, because i visited the home of -- household decarbonized most of their home.

yes. and we will be happy to report on this size a developed and approved. and -- i, too, want to encourage you and any other customer that we have out there if than i have questions about their bills they can reach out to us through our call center. any time. we have trained staff that can help folks understand their bills. >> thank you. >> thank you vice chair fielder. commissioner williams. hi. my favorite part when i have questions you answer within seconds of presenting. thank you. i guess my question is relating it jackie.

with the electric heat pump water heater incentives. the out reach strategy, i wonder in your tenure and in your experience what that strategy usually entails? are you talking to only owners, tenants, are there yours in the city you like to focus on in your reason behind that? >> yea. great question . you know general low speaking we do try to tailer our out reach to the initiative. and -- there are different tactics for reaching our customers depending on what the program is we are trying to community. um and you know we have an excellent power communication's team and that reported here lafco in the past. i'm happy to bring them become to chair more about their

strategies and their approaches. and more specific low about what we will do on decarbonization. but -- with respect to the heat pump water heater. one thing i want to point out is that program is targeted mid stream and contractors. the out reach that has taken place to date done through our roej nal program add administrator that has established relationships with contractors all over the bay area and bringing them on burden and the goal is to increase their knowledge about the technology and work it in to their menu of things they offer when they call up the contractors because their water

heater broke. as an offering that the contractors have and financial incentives are a carrot to induce them to do that. now, their you may have hearing about incentives for decarbtechnologies from the state and the federal gentleman. there is a lot going on and a lot going to come out in 2023 from federal and state government. one of the things we are preparing to do on this is have a message out to our customers broadly of all of the various opportunity that there are to bring the costs down to install this upon equipment. the equipment is not a sort of -- one size fits all necessary low. we do need to be careful about sort of who we send messages to

making sure that the technological solutions fit the audience. these are things we are work through. but we intend to dot proudly as we can to reach as many san francisco households as possible. and we are always open to feedback hayou all have as commissioners for how we can improve our engagement with the customer base. >> thank you. i think i heard the words feasibility report and there? unless i was imagining things and i think about them. how much do you cost for you? >> when conduct the feasibility report sns >> high and low. it is going to depends on what it is, i think.

and i'm blanking i'm sorry if i referred to the fees at report in this presentation it was probably in the context of our rate implementation we analyze the bill impact to customers of the transition. i don't know off hand how much this study costs. it might have been about 50 thousand dollars. i being investigate that further and get become to you through the executive officer. >> and sorry, i think the other part was what do they cost? they could range, range from and they don't know the subject from 25,000 to may be a couple hundred thousand dollars on the higher end depending what it is and how much time is required. >> thank you. that's all.

thank you commissioner williams and director hines for answering all the questions and the presentation we appreciate temperature always good to see you. weres i see no more names on the roster i personal low look forward it learning more about the super green account of i know you are not there yet i look forward to hearing more. it is exciting to share that their super green and that also it is going on go with the advantage community. account. i think that is that's what i personal low would love to learn more about and see how we continue to deposit equity in utility. thank you director hines and could you call open up for public comment. >> yes, checking to see if there are callers in the queue. press story 3 to be added to the

line. continue to wait until you have been unmuted that is your queue to comment. >> there are no commenters the friday before thanksgiving week. everybody is busy, shopping. groceries. thank you. seeing no more public comment it is closed. this is a discussion item special no action required to be taken for any part of this item. so madam clerk, call 5. >> item five discussion and possible approval of the proposed memorandum of understanding with lafco and the sfpuc. member who is wish to comment call the number streaming on the screen. if you have not done so dial star 3 to speak the prompt will indicate you raised your hand.

the social security indicates you have been unmuted that is time to begin your comments. madam chair. >> thank you. >> you know this item i want to say i want to commend executive officer pollock for his work and the attention to details and patient low having conversation and catch with up me and my office and get our attention to key elements. it has been a great process i really believe due to the ability and the negotiations skills, the floor is yours and look forward it hearing the more details and also to hear the feedback from commissioners. about this mou. and i don't know what the presentation is but in terms of detail but i want to give a bit

of a contrek about the mou the i would say legacy mou that this body has with sfpuc. really on the leadership of our former supervisor tom amiano and put a lot of work in it. it started off with the belief in the municipal power and municipal energy. and to look at lafco as independent body to usher the goal forward and has and evolved to clean power sf. while it feels like so much has accomplished since then. it is true bauftz partnership with lafco and sfpuc i see more w to be done. while san francisco has alzheimer been the leader in the

sustainable power and municipal power arena up and down leading the states. i think that we can do more. and we should do more and the reason why since we took this role as chair of lafco we really have asked executive officer pollock to help us to you know look at this mou, take us to another level. with that, thank you. and the floor is yours. jeremy pollock lafco executive officer. before i jump in may be speak briefly to your mention of the previous mou and the history of the rep with lafco and the sfpuc. and i have been look back at historical record of lafco studies going back to the early

2000's. a lot was a lot of technical studyos acquisition of pg and e's infrastructure and with the community choice aggregation program that shifted to the lafco focus and -- yea. original mou created with our two agencies was about the design of that program and launch of the community choice aggregation clean power sf. a possess that took long and more sweat and tierce than anticipated and i think the period of strife between the agencies and between the board of supervisors and mayor's office and sfpuc and it is exciting now hearing the updates from mr. hines a noncontroversial success now and seeing it as an established

program and a part of the fabric of san francisco and contrasting that with pg and e's struggles across the state and yea. i think it is -- negotiating this new mou is exciting looking at a new era of the really with lafco and sfpuc we have been bed rock program with the majority of san francisco being customers in the program and really looking at what is the next steps in the process. as we address you know the threat of climate change and -- you know i think for a language time the idea of building a program of 100% renewable power was a daunting task now i think what is the evolution we are close to making that happen and i think a lot of the cites are

now turned toward all the other challenges of a carbon free environment buildings and electrifying transportation and all the other challenges and look out what is the roll that clean power sf can play and making that happen. and a lot of challenging changes we are looking at taking on around decarbonization and electrification. and so yea. the process has been a really fascinating dive in all the details involved in that and really excited get to work on it. with that i will get off my soap box and go through the details. i will skip higher details. society proposed scope work in

the mou would have 2, one of continuing lafco's role as monitoring clean power sf and advising the sfpuc and board of supervisors and then what is the focus of our discussions around lafco conducting a series of special studies on topics that advance clean power sf's work. we are looking at you know your catharsis outside of the sfpuc's core responsibilityings of delivering power and touch on multiple different departments that require agency coordination and city code reviews and financing challenges. and so -- there is nothing like it to make it happen and we had a lot of interaction with myself and the sfpuc this week and hammering out the details

andment to appreciate mr. hines and general manager hail for her supporting in this process. and so, just this week the sfpuc gave us a proposal and sort of moving close to coming to agreement on the terms of the mou and society proposal that is attached to the packet would be for 3 and a half years. starting january 1 of this year and rolling through the end of fiscal 2025-26. and i think the intention for that duration will lineup with the sfpuc's 2 year budget process. with a funding amount not to exceed 800 thousand dollars. and so i think one area we are discussing is what level of detail on the stsd that will be conducted include in the scope of work of the mou and i think

the sfpuc proposal will define 4 study its conduct. life landfall talked about defining topic areas in the mou and work out the details of the studies to be done in a work plan. and so i think mr. hines and i had a discussion yesterday about this and one compromise i proposed is to include the definitions of specific studies but allow a provision that would allow for clone power staff and myself to agree to modifications to the studies if we are both in agreement and the subskenl notifying thing commission to allow flex ability as you know needs change our technologies change or the consultants we identify and the quality of their service. giving flexibility to modify

things without going back for approval if not necessary. that's what we look for your input on. and then here the studies the sfpuc proposed in the latest draft. these are 4 of the study this is came from the larger list of potential study developing the left 4 months so 1 study on decarbonization around as we move to electricified buildings what is the process and changing for decommissioning the natural gas infrastructure will need to go, way in the 40. a study on looking at battery storage and promoting it and where it is applicable and beneficial. and a study on transportation electrification around all the challenges around electrifying

charging station in our dense urban environment this need to be worked out. i know here that mta and department of environment are doing a related study on that that our work would need to be coordinated with. the last 1 a category of lower prior studies that would likely conducted here by myself or coordination with graduate student or interns without oorls00 professional consultant support. and looking at surveys of emerging technologies and issues. the twhoon the sfpuc is highlighted would be the potential use of green hydrogen fuel and the challenges of this in an urban environment like ours. and so -- in the memo attached the longer list that has been developed billed on input from commissioners, from the d.

environment, community groups. mr. hines and i had a good study a number of conversation the number of study to whichecks yesterday. let of them are late break additions to the los angeles feedback from department of environment and, let of ideas and technical ideas. and food for thought as we move forward. continuing to look for feedback from you and the public and department and so on. haare the studies and challenges that are really fit in life landfall's skill set and have the most benefit to the city. next steps to finalize the remaining terms of the mou in the work plan. revowing the latest draft the mou with legal council and continuing to discuss what the puc and hope is witness we're in

agreement to seek approval from the puc commission on this and we will be ready to move forward on beginning the actual work. and so. the recommended action is request that the commission authorize me to finalize and execute the mou with the sfpuc and then looking for modifications or policy direction you want to see included in the mou with appreciate that in there spelled out in our discussion today this . concludes my presentation. and also want to really thank mr. hines for his attention and effort to this. to this discussion and project and i know he has a lot of other things to keep the lights on for san francisco and appreciate his effort and excited get to work.

i agree. everyone thatting to the partnership of sfpuc and director hines for his support and working with us and we really appreciate the partnership. anyone have questions? commissioner williams. >> hi. thank you so much executive officer pollock i would like to praise you for being on call for me when i have questions. and you work so hard and did so much and grateful for you. thank you. i guess i have a list of question its is a bit of looking at my notes which are a mess. i wonder in the mou, the proposed 800 thousand dollars. i feel like we put in a request for within.2 million?

i wonder if the impact it would have when there is over 3 and a half years. could be put toward more of the reports. sizeable aim of machiney that was a comment rather than a question. and then i know in section 3 i wander if there is significant can harm in leaving in lafco's role and religion at this time sfpuc. i know as someone who geeks out over the codes of california they are inaccessible to people who don't read them. and i wonder if it is okay to leave that additional language in like in plain speak.

then, there is kind of, one word about remaining money given become to life landfall what was remaining after that period of time. and in the considering the future of that happening again. there is one word i wonder photocopy we can change from may to will. do that. rather than may do that. because there is already a precedent set in 2009 i hope we could keep that and codify it and make it secure. i suppose 91 were question fist you have feedback executive officer pollock, that would be great. >> great. thank you for that. i wander if you point mow to the specific section of the word, may you are referring to.

>> yes. list me i'll finds temperature thank you, combhrn womenively uponed ask a question about the 800 thousand dollars from 2 million the original ask. these and agreement between we will [inaudible] officer pollock is wing on it with sfpuc in agreement we look at the dollar amount of 800 thousand dollars and 2 fiscal groers now we will

be able to reevaluate and examine the dollars spent and the work done. and in terms of the deliverables. which we have accomplished and event that we need to either increase the dollar amount and not to exceed, we will have the option to do so. in that negotiation and conversation. so, i wanted say that not to be for now i think we will have an opportunity to amend this i want to put thing in context and correct me if i'm wrong is is that we previously in the 2009mou rule of law 2.1 million and that's about 13 years ago. and total dollar amount not to exceed between sfpuc and this body the mou and we still now to

date have about 130 thousand dollars remaining. >> give the contact about the scale of fund not to exceed the reason yet next 3 fiscal years. will give us some a chance to say can we really, it is ambitious agenda we laid out. can we accomplish this. and within the and conversation in e mail or come below or decided to extend or scale back. now i think that we are setting forth with this. but i agree with commissioner williams. the page number and specific in

the documents. will or shall instead of may i'm in support of that. >> thank you, chair. commissioner williams aware on this commission. thank you, officer pollock for put thanksgiving together and being available for so many questions. i will preface this, i don't have questions but a ton of comments. surprisingly. thank you for your patience. i support keeping this close to the 1.2 million original ask, as much as possible especially consider that some of that will run over from what we have not used in the past 13 years. i do support general topic areas rather than specific settings to

allow flexibility. you know it is something in the draft that lafco shall convene city departments to identify interests and concerns and they need to do a lot of that work. we have done approximate through the process but great to have a bit more time to do that and i think having to show support general topic areas would help us do that. as far as the specific topics you are speaking to specific topic studies, i really am concerned opposing i'm really in opposition to swapping [inaudible] and off shore winds and power approximate tunnel power with hydrogen fuel. the reason is i know there is different hydrogen fuels blue and green hydrogen and so on. i'm highly skept calf any

hydrogen being a solution to the climate crisis seeing the natural gas and pipeline industry put a lot of future on large scale hydrogen and shown to be financing studies about green hydrogen. when an existing benefitted research found there are risks associated with running it through ordinary gas pipelines and the process of requires so much energy making on mass would not be viable for heating homes. real search concluded carbon could accelerate global warming. i think there are other things to prioritize in studies. i look at that, i am excited about several different topic areas including reuse, recycling

and dexhengzing of natural gas, as we know as far as decarbonizing bellings and homes. we placing your stove is the most impactful thing you can do next to replacing your natural gas water heater. i'm excite body combined heat and power. considering economies of scale for heating and cooling homes. and excited about energy servicing agreement models for home energy efficiency. and support studies battery storage and codes to make that easier. >> the solutions i know burn clean energy. prior life landfall meeting how burning clean energy put a virtual power plant in the next few years. when they did was bought up a lot of the homes i believe in

the richmond. and then put low income household in a lottery they bid on these completely decarbonized homes and smart technology and the lottery would keep the prices you know from escalating. so that is i was excited see that. and last but not least. on most excited about the portion about financing the clean power sf and specific locality intersection with a public bank. some have green bank the d. environment and u c beshg low came out with a study how much it will cost over the course of decade or more.

the public thinking for tech mology and the transition to the green economy about securing the long-term funding. i want to leave in some of the reinvestment working group work so yesterday, the working group met and heard from tim tevo the consult ans that put together focus group in different areas. affordable housing. renewable energy, and want top highlight the journey sum row from the group on renowable energy the biggest challenge is the lack of long-term funding visible to upon support this work. allocations on the budget of san francisco and other one year term funding and grants. probabilities the planning and implementation of long-term solutions. long story short. there is a big need for small,

small loans up to 150 k. to able to provide credit lines to finance project costs. i'm excite body the topic areas that officer pollock, i prefer we cope them general to remain flexible. thank you. a lot of stlnt comments and feed bavenlth and yea the previous discussions i think you xresdz your concerns about hydrogen fuel and have a good discussion with mr. hines about this yesterday. and talking about that. i think sort of flushing out

that skepticism about potential ideas and educating ourselves and the public is my goal is in that category of stsd around survase emerging technology to you know take the temperature on them see what is smoke and what is natural gas propaganda. i think you have concern busy hydrogen and far from an expert to educate myself. i think the compelling case i heard are very fuel source for high intensity energy really difficult to decarbonize. so i would go in the study and

assumption that we will be pumping hydrogen all over to heat house. we don't need to be rung green hydrogen vehicle when is we have electric vehicles that perform better. there are industrial uses it might make sense. may be we have a lot of excess solar energy that is in the middle of the day there is not use for there is a reason that we can use that to produce hydrogen reused in other periods. i think mr. hines and i -- hear that loud and clear. he is available if he wants to offer comments on this. before i go too deep in the woods. you know appreciate all of you the stsd you flagged excited about. and you know agree developing this there are so many interesting challenges that need to be figured out part of this

decarbonization we are embarking on. that is something i got opened on my browser i wanted get into more. and yea also discussed with mr. hines the study topic on financing of clean power portfolio and the intersection with the public bank. excited connect with department of the environment more. we will be meeting with our consultant on public banking with acting director and the staff from the d. environment to dig in to the public banking, financing concepts in general and the prosecute visions of inflation reduction act and looking how to access the funds for financing all of this work. and if there are other topics or

questions i missed. site them again i will leave it at there for now. >> director hines? do you have feedback? >> thank you, chair chan. director mike hines, for clean power sf the sfpuc power. this their is a lot there. to respond to i think i wanted to start you know by also echoing that we really appreciate what has been a positive relationship and partnership with lafco the past few years as we launched clean power sf and grown it to be a city wide initiative and -- really fostered a successful program i appreciate your remarks about that. from the commission and the skive officer. and then i appreciate as mr.

pollock mentioned we had really good conversations over the past few weeks about the future. and -- so -- i guess starting with the funding -- and i think chair chan eludeed this i spoke with the general manager, 800 thousand dollars is the budget we like to start with. and you know it can grow from there in the future. and i think chair chan eluded to that. we can amend the mou in the future and course correct. extend. those are all options. we can do that any time by mutual agreement and approval from our commission. following approval from our commission we'll take all actions to secure funding that we are proposing. on the scope side, you know i

think our approach has been to stay focused. and we have been concerned about having too broad a scope that result in a revisiting the scope. and a lot of wheel spinning. what we want to do is use this 800 thousand dollars of clean power repair of funds toward good use. and efficient use. and i think the best way to do that is to embark on one of the studies soon and share positive results for rate payors and the city. that's where my head is. and i communitiesed that with mr. pollock as the strategy we would like it take. we think that success will be get more work so -- i wanted to plant that seed of thought with you all. there are a lot of great ideas.

i will say general low, there are something here identified that i believe is more present low lead and directed by sfpuc the operating agency. there is technical work that has been identified. to demand management programs arefect cal. involve interactions with the market. electric metering with customers. and there's contracting involved. attach is a lot of implementation. implementation design i should say. i think we are open as we have been receiving in the past the policy input. from lafco.

that's one example. there were comments about hydrogen that was an idea we put forward to mr. pollock. and i think he eludeed this a moment ago. but i personal low hearing more and more about hydrogen. europe is invest nothing it. and there is work going on remuleable energy developers to produce from wind and solar. i think given that it is important for us to educate ourselves and the city about it and the better understand the place in the urban environment. is it a good direction for san francisco to go?

and how might it be sustainable. upon this is when we discussed. there are other technologies that could be explored the way we draftd that portion of the mou. it does not limit testimony to only hydrogen. those are my remarks now. we do support new mou in place the 800 thousand dollars level and look forward to bringing this to the commission. >> thank you. i think i want to give a feedback like and sfpuc i think that my approach always is with

the studied is sometimes not always. sometime its it is a study of deduction. of like whether this is feasible, whether a right size or right fit approach for the city. and then sometimes you may be surprised what you set out to prove or not prove. if we are honest and data driven. i think that there is a level of accountability and transparency required in the studies. i appreciate and i think that is what lafco is about. lafco does function in independent and this is like you know we are the third party try to verify the prop thap visit the city of san francisco would like to take when it come to sustainable power. next i have commissioner mar on

the roster. >> thank you. chair chan. thank you to director hines for your work on updating the mou. and the having clear. updated and clear of the roll of lafco in on going work and looking ahead. topics identified and appreciate the questions and discussions from the commissioners. i did want to make a few points one i think that the additional issue area of financing studies on financing you know the clean power sf is listed