city and county of san francisco building inspection commission meeting this morning at 9:00 am., wednesday, december 14, 2022.)

>> good morning today is wednesday, december 14, 2022, this is a special meeting of the building inspection commission by mute yourself if you're not speaking the first item is call the roll. >> president bito here. >> vice president tam here. >> commissioner alexander-tut here. >> commissioner neumann here. >> commissioner shaddix here. >> commissioner sommer here. >> okay. we we have quorum and next is the acknowledgement acknowledgings were a special homeland and the original advocates of san francisco peninsula as the indigenous people of this land and

tradition never forgotten the responsibilities and as well as all people's and guests we recognize we benefit from living and working on home and we see you- community and by affirming the sovereign rights. thank you. >> next members of the public public of the public of the code: 2483 588 3015. to raise your hand for public comment on a specific agenda item press *3 when prompted by the meeting moderator. this is the webinar and if you're trying to assess this is having a 1214. and.

>> watch: sf cable channel 26/watch www.sfgovtv.org watch: https://bit.ly/3ufabuk. >> next >> next up. >> 2. findings to allow teleconferenced meetings under california government code section 54953(e). (discussion and possible action)the commission will discuss and possibly adopt a resolution setting forth findings required under assembly bill 361 that would allow the bic to hold meetings, or for commissioners to attend meetings, when necessary remotely according to the modified brown act teleconferencing set forth in ab 361. is there a motion to adopt the finding. >> motion additional second all. >> all in favor, say "aye." >> aye. >> the motion carries unanimously. and invocation. >> 3. president's opening remarks. >> hello commissioners and director o'riordan and members of the public. welcome to the wednesday, december 14, 2022, building inspection commission thank you for being here. and want to start off by welcoming commissioner shaddix i

understand a executive director of a local nonprofit and good to have you as a new in addition and looking forward to work together with you. this is focusing an important topics inspecting our goal do understand and provide- budget is created and managed and tried. i think that is an interesting discussion and hoping illuminating for the public and commission and like to thank everyone for wishing everyone a happy holidays. this concludes any comments and remarks but please remarks when we discuss the continuous of some of these items? >> can do that now if i once

you select the items we'll make a motion. >> okay. >> we have a number of um, commissioners that are on line taking this meeting in hybrid or you remotely and another commissioner that needs to leave due to um- we wanted to propose continuing on a number of these items. we were looking forward to hearing about the budget but i think continuing on when everyone is in the same room i want to propose we continue on items number 6 and 7 and 9. >> and i think especially with item 9 um, closed session and giving um, director o'riordan yearly review will be

appropriate to do that in-person that is important, important anyone so prefer to have that in-person when all of us can join in that discussion instead of a hybrid mode. >> so there is is a motion by president bito to continue item 6 and 7 and 9 and there is a seconded by vice president tam i will do a roll call vote. >> president bito [off mic.] >> attorney city attorney kapla may have another comments. >> i apologize for that if there is in public comment for agenda items 6 and 7 and 9?

>> there's none. >> none? >> i had a comment but. >> sure. >> um, i--i don't know if i'm able to vote for the next several months anything in the in-person i my child's health this is why i (unintelligible). >> but the matrix to be but (unintelligible) i would like to (unintelligible) hybrid and um, (unintelligible) (microphone feedback) and other- hybrid in the right way i think we

(microphone distorted) >> thank you i will look into the possibilities of other commissions will be where everyone will see everyone at the same time. >> i want to respond to commissioners comments this has a lot to do with what is on the agenda and three commissioners one commissioner um, or two and the majority i think in the room be works out fine but not a majority sitting in-person is more challenging we're to talk about this what we're supposed to talk about. >> thank you for that >> any

other commissioners have my comments ass. >> open up for public comment on those items and a motion and a second so i'll do a roll call vote for the 6 and 7 and 9. >> president bito, yes. >> vice president tam, yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut, yes. >> commissioner neumann, yes. >> commissioner shaddix, yes. >> commissioner sommer. >> thank you the motion carries unanimously and next. >> 4. director's report. directs update. >> good morning president bito and members of building inspection commission i'm director o'riordan the director of the building inspection commission and president bito i want to start by welcoming the newest member commissioner

shaddix, commissioner shaddix is the executive director of the economic development a community-based nonprofit to support businesses along the third street coordinator and enjoyed meeting with commissioner shaddix when he came to dbi and his experience will bring value and womb commissioner shaddix. >> earlier this month a small business inspection and organic food market at 500 black street in the tenderloin and mohammed and- ambassadors inspector

working closely with mohammed to have agree final completion an december 2nd and sonya put the picture of mohammed open the screen first. thank you. >> oh, apparently, we don't have [off mic.] >> okay. >> i (unintelligible). >> (laughter.) >> between a rock and a hard place3 here's mohammed with the c s c a few words he shared in a note mr. burn is a experienced inspector that streamlined the process of obtaining a permit and helped to prepare my business four approval and explained what exactly i noted to do and thank you for this program and thank you, mr. burn for his patience and coincidence

and experience i hope he can continue helping enterprises and congratulations mohammed. >> thank you inspector burn. >> and move on to the interact you winter shelter program and speaking of my work i want to share another work with bay conservation & development commission has worked at interfaith council to assist is opening san francisco churches has over night shelters for homeless and our role is moved the needle we conduct inspections to make sure the churchs are safe and this year area inspector paul of the code enforcement conducted the inspections along with the san

francisco fire department and the issue was especially meaningful to the inspector that was involved in several other programs to help san franciscans get off the street this is not the most important work but don't hear us speak of this work is important everyone in san francisco deserves a safe place to sleep we protect every single person in the city and protest of the work to provide good nights rest for the vulnerable neighborhoods. and moving on today's agenda centers around the bic at home and work for updates and study those items maybe continued to next month as

spoken by president bito so i look forward to our ongoing reports. >> that concludes my presentation. and 4b update on projects. >> okay. >> monk again, the following slides will how the the volume and evaluation of projects tossing work on this as well as a profile of projects that especially have high value nevertheless of housing and community assets so the next slide in october of 2022, 10 permit applications were estimated construction of

$5 million were filed with bic $634 million a 12 story office building was also an application filed for 1939 market street will have one hundred and 87, 4 hundred percent affordable units and. next slide, please. thank you, last month we issued too high value permits and over 200 and $33 million. one of these permit for a 5 hundred units mixed-use development and 5 by 5 bryant street and the other for the rehabilitation at laguna honda and last week bic

filed three projects for an office improvement on owen street and next at the castro health center together under construction evaluation of roughly $20 million. thank you. >> thank you. next item is update on bic financing good morning alex bic direct our of administration this presentation

will be an update of our regular will be a regular finance update and in addition based on see feedback provided by the commission at the last meeting i've added additional slides thank you for the suggestions and looking forward to further refining this regular update format so will be most helpful to you and members of the public. next slide, please. so the first slide is a refresher some basics on the finance and the budget and finance cycle for the department and the city. our financial year is july 1st through june 30th so the year is finalized after june 30th around august and september the controller publishes the final final report in november to march depends on

the complexist of prior year the budget cycle always something happening with budget within the department and office of controller a continuous process. the departments enter into the continuous circle is in december to february that is where the department phase and the department develop a proposed budget for the next two years on the two year budget year throughout the city and in this february we will be submitting a proposal for fiscal year 2023-24 and 24, 25 and then after the proposal is will submitted the mayors office takes over and make policy changes and additions and modifications to

the budget on june 1st, the mayor submits here proposed budget for those next two years. after that july to argue the board of supervisors takes over and review had the mayor has submitted and make cuts and adds. recommended changes to the budget and then the full board votes around august to finalize the budget not listed after the budget is finalized around august the process starts over again and the second year was approved becomes the first year so fiscal year 24 to 25 they're reviewed twice and helps the department think further ahead and plan so there is something

that was previously discussions to work on. next slide, please. i wanted to put together something that shows what the commission can expect from our financial updates and not every- most meeting will be not half regular updates and i'll get into what that is a little bit later in the presentation generally a look at the budget and the current spending and how much of the year has elapsed and how much we've spent and towards the end of year will include proposed spending and proposed year-end balances towards the end of year not so much not enough information to determine that but i'll go through some of the special highlights and additions to the regular

schedule so in september, that will be right after the year has closed and the budget has been finalized we'll show a look back at the prior year how we did a final lock and then a will be the commissions first look at the finalized new budget and, of course, the original proposal but any changes though the mayor's office you'll see those then. in january we the department meet with the comptroller's office and mayor's office twice a year 6 months and 9 months through the year quarter 2 and three and those are the times when departments do deep dives into the year-end projections to determine beyond just a basic straight line

projection we really what we think we're going to spend but the end of year and revenues by the end of the year and what will the impact on the fund balances be and where we think we'll end up as previously mentioned to so difficult to do that early on in the year that projection work is not typically start until 6 months in so i'll explain that further when we get into the in a nut shell nuts and bolts of the regular update. next slide, please. the commission asked for a long time the current fund balances and historical perspectives i would like to show what bic current position sea how we got

through. so most significant recent rift begins in 2011 when revenue san francisco was not as effected as most of country with the great recessions as everything else began to recover revenues cabin began to /* /* began to take off until 2020 a abrupt revenue drop if two years and it was a very abrupt turn around. i'll share that further on the graph on the next slide but to summarize our financial

position currently we have the $5 million no carbon and 48 of the 45 is uncommitted have committed approximately $50 million to ongoing projects. so the the 45 is available for foreclosure use and other important fork our operating balance we're xurnl experiencing a $25 million per year operating defective and expenditures are greater than the revenue by $25 million this year and absent any changes. and if nothing changes you'll see we have about $48 million uncommitted and

we're running the three 25 mill per year deficit by fiscal year 26 our cash is proposed to run out. next slide, please. so this is a visual representation of the new financial history of dbi the four lines one is revenue and gray is expenditures and blue is our cash so that is just beginning balance plus revenue minus expenditure. and the yellow is uncommitted fund balance it is the blue line minus everything we've committed to spend. and as you can see when 2010 and notifying the red

line goes above the gray line results in a fund balance shooting you think and in 2020 those lines abruptly cross back now the diverse between the red and gray line is our expenditures are greater than revenues and what we need to do going forward and what we'll attempt through the fee stood out we'll talk about bring those lines closer together for a envision of expenditures and bring that pray line down and revenue potential revenue increases bringing that red line up and like to um, recovery the costs but for the exposed them. next slide, please.

i want to talk about primary proposals we made to the mayor's office low-hanging fruit we identified as easy ways to um, increase increase our balance and delay absent any other changes um, buy ourselves more time. so on the revenue side, of course, the major changes determined by the fee study. we have begun the fee study already had the kickoff and working with the consultant and moving through that process talk about that more next time. and in addition item about three modified of covid 19 reimbursement so during a lot of staff has been deployed for various tasks in shelter in

place paid for by the bicycle coalition fund and made a request for reimbursement for this cost will not impact the dbi rate payers on the expenditure side we have requested reductions in various work orders with other department many of the work orders schedule to sunset next year in fiscal year 24 we asked it is stop that early so work for outreach we're paying affair department for and economic and workforce development we believe we can take over owe deal with the existing resources we are hoping to and those work orders

early we'll see had the mayors office says about that and dbi it funding 6 organizations and mostly for there is outreach in sros helping with tenant education and contract education and we are in talks with the mayors office to potentially shift that funding to other departments that are doing similar work like the department of homelessness and the mayor's office those are the departments have additional existing contracted with the community-bases organizations and hoping that those other department can a fund some of the work. um, and in it is very early to tell permitting discussions with the mayors office they would like to see a

phased approach to whatever we do 0 expenditure instructions new revenue increases won't want to do it to prevent rate shock and we're hoping that at this point to balance our budget bring that red line make that intersect with the gray line by fiscal year 26 though the results of fee study will determine exactly what happens north side iso primary slides i went over were some of the background history i hope that was helpful now the following 6 slides are an updated format of presentation we plan to present to best case scenario each month

as described in the first slide the format for the presentation will be a slide and he had next slide a table with the- the first item will go over is revenue and in the previous meeting questions were asked how it the budget managed throughout the year and prior in the first 6 months of the year we monitor we roughly monitor loyaltytion if you locate the first point here 42 percent of year hesitate lapsed so the data shown is there november so 5 months divided is 42 has gone by throughout the year received only 38 percent of budget if

western to known lists that as a $2 million shortfall but generally accepted throughout the city finance to be too early to those types of determinations for example, in the project report seeing the 5 by 5 bryant $200 million that brought in $200 million in november. so we revenues are very volatile and very difficult to determine what will be coming in the rest of the year especially on the revenue side so- we do use this as reality check checking the and not received or to make sure it is somewhat close if those start to devertical we'll

investigate but as long as their relatively close we leave the 2k4r5i89d projects for 6 to 9 months. um, and all you'll see on the next slide the apartment licensed fee nothing has been received so far didn't mean we expect to receive all of what we budgeted but pretty much last year timing can effect it so we have not actually received it is collected by treasury tax collector have not sent us any money this year yet thuks may see under recovery didn't mean will be under recovery by the end of year. and another item is the three year coach change hoping for a souring in

applications to meet the codes we'll see how much more revenue we bring in in december. next slide, please. so this table speaks to the prior slide as you can see the different revenue categories and how much we received so far. the first two columns are lashes budget and actuals for the 4 year you can get an idea of what happened last year and the next two are current year and tills up-to-date so this year's plan how we're doing courage and the last two columns are projections and again, this is discussed it is two soon to make for detailed projections we could projection a $2 million give on the first

lion we're not confident enough but project by project on budget for now. in the next meeting we do our detailed end of year that projections those numbers will not be open more concrete predictions. >> one other thing to mention here is the prior reporting only showdown operating financials. now we can also see in the second to last row non-operating restricted fund in the building inspection commission fund with the construction demolish reciprocated outside and this shows that activity if not great detail but at least we can provide overall picture of the

building inspection fund. next slide, please. we'll disagree expenditures so far this year they're trending they are ores to predict the labor and most people make the same week to week and one saving it in non-personnel services to two dr t reimbursements the developers of projects reimburse us for we pay the- and the project reimburses dbi the project enough to pay the reviewers and we have that as a surplus and as previously mentioned for the proposals requested that had the $5 million that materialize will

result in significant savings for the department. and then another item for the community-bases organizations is typically in the past few years built less than the grant amount it is very, very difficult to determine how much they'll build intend to build less and we'll see about their potentially additional stlaifz and. next slide, please. and here's the same table as is revenue side on the expenditure side as you can see how much the prior year and actuals year to date and projections at the bottom again there is the non- operating expenditures so those are the reciprocated fund and continuing projects for example,

our permit tracking system upgrade have money set aside for that project and have money- those are gentle capital projects on the second floor of the center that's another capita project that is funding out of non-capital funds and on those are funds outside of the building inspection fund a small amount of general fund that was allocated to dbi by supervisors for um, prior specific projects i believe some sort of outreach effort and so you'll see all dbi expenditures are encompassed in this table and. next slide, please. . and in the final item we'll

talk about is a look at the permit and you'll see from the numbers on the next slide year to date received a number of permits about 11 percent less, however, due to this one big project by broont preliminarily the total evaluation of all permit that the same as last year at the same time year to date. next slide, please. so here's the slide is similar to when has been present in the past that shows this year to date so july through november for last year and this year. both a number of permits and the evaluation and looking forward to working with you all to refine this and i'm available for questions..

next slide, please. last slide. thank you. >> thank you. president bito you wanted to add any commissioners have anything i don't know (unintelligible). >> no it is commissioner alexander-tut. >> sure absolutely i have questions. >> okay. >> commissioner alexander-tut you can go ahead and speak. >> thank you for the presentation i have a few questions but one i think is the education (unintelligible) question shifting the presidio grant money not about the presidio but dbi access to the dbi services i remember reading about something that at department can shift to

(unintelligible) i don't know any particular cbo i'd like concerned about the different department i want the language to say i don't know but i (unintelligible) to be to (microphone feedback) outreach for tenant to- people are terrified of their launders and don't want to file a complaint and in english but (unintelligible) a psychology barriers people don't know that the code exist and um, but the connection between the housing department and the community directly so no longer have contract connectivity with the organizations and the

community-bases organizations are housing inspection (unintelligible) the complaints and no longer able to make not come into the housing services in the same way i'm very, very concerned about what that impacts to our community if we no longer have contracts with (unintelligible) services direct. and the inspections can't provide the same level of services but a different kind of work during the department (unintelligible) oftentimes see and referred to as department (unintelligible) the sros competitive to work with dbi to

provide a different level of resources and i that is not a savings i could imagine meeting just to get- i'm interested in having broadly having conversations where we can have savings and (unintelligible) eliminating contract as a policy is we found out in three years this didn't work and role permit (unintelligible) and i think very early assess the (inaudible) (microphone feedback) i'm concerned about making that policy decision permanent through the budget so

(unintelligible). >> sure just to be clear, to clarify thank you, for you question we're not talking about eliminating or changing the services just the source of funding for them. so it is our diego rivera to keep the current services and have them managed by our housing inspection division just change the funding source with the mayors office or is department of homelessness to provide funding for dbi to pay for the services. >> oh, that's will fantastic (laughter) i was worried about project connectivity so if we are able to find alternative sources ever fufrpd that is 100 percent fantastic so, thank you. >> for clarifying that (laughter). >> that helps my anxiety so i do want to ask can you- on the

ongoing projects with the $55 million outcome that are committed outcome not in the presentation but about for january can you tell us would what those tied to policy or legal what are the commitments the $55 million is what is if we can't that touch part of an finding to prepare for the june dissuasions will be helpful. >> sure i'll be happy to and thank you for the good news (laughter). >> questions. >> i do have a couple of questions. thank you very much. for the presentation and very helpful. and the graphics certainly help one of the things i wanted to reiterate as part of the our presentation i thought

was very well organized and presented was the financial calendar year in the circle budget to the mayor's office and the timeline with the board of supervisors on page 4 you go through the regular updates back to the regular last month discussion that those updates with the same things when i speak to tracking those are some of the things i presume you're checking on regular updates what housing is that's a great question. (unintelligible) and actuals. >> is that what you do? i mean what i heard you're tracking the productions and updates on what you projected based on a certain amount of a three month period

this is a yeah, so we review how much of the year has gone by and rerecovered and have that by this time of year and then in quarter one in january and then in april we will role do a deeper dive into our precautions say okay beyond it is maybe 50 percent of the way through the year and recovered 50 percent let's talk to the director and does what will come in for the rest of the year and the bic has in their piping and coming to us on the labor side which positions will we hover or retirements cuba 80 save money so more- additional investigations into those things. >> i think (clearing throat) the timeline on page 4 tells the

commission to anticipate that it takes the director's report and finance update from something that has felt to some degree per function having milestones a great addition to the update that you had in the director's report so thank you for that that was helpful something that is potential in the future? >> so what is the next milling and the next thing did commissioners can expect. >> a timeline when you reach that milestone when you, your team can evaluate and analyze it something may n speaks- i did h

our timeline is in 2026 each of those things on page 6 talks about a $25 million speaking the blue line each one of the ticks represents $25 million on the graph downward graph- >> (multiple voices). >> i understand that from a math stand point the other question i'm going to get to my question but taking notes while you're talking about um, dbi well a couple of things on page

7 dbi has their budget abandons the revenue and expenditures but handling the mayors budget from what i understand do we have money from the mayors budget for certain programs like the cbos those are paid out of the building inspection that is the main fund that is dbi revenues and expenditures. >> right. >> the cbos are paid for out of that fund. and. >> (multiple voices.) >> a discussion you're having earlier this is ideology you're hoping to have that the mayors office in terms of their detached dwelling unit and shortfall and where they fit within the missions of the other department certainly with the

office of mayors workforce and development and within homeless will fit within the missions we want to do do work those departments can transfer to the building fund to pay for this work. >> did you have other question. >> direct our you have a question or comment. >> oh, you have oh, when so the pill arrested for the mayors to cover the cost for cabo san lucas what's the timeline in which you anticipate having an answer to that? we'll know by june 1st of next year when the mayors submits their budget and hopefully know before in time for the department budget submission and get guidance from the mayor they have said they have a lot of balls in the air and may not give us a response

and may make the decision in at a later date phase of the budget between february and june. >> and is it something we can submit and letter in support of. >> a definitely we're looking for partners in on the commission and other department to support various proposals we're making doing a lot of outreach for the city to support the outcome proposals we're making to the mayor's office. >> um, other question i have sort of relate to that can you expand i know we to revisit the attach work orders you're speaking to um, i don't know this is part of that but $2.8 million for the covid 19 general fund you talked about like expenditures of $3.9 million is a one time word

work with puc and economic workforce development. >> that's a separate issue. >> can you expand on that i'm on page 7 the expenditure three hundred 9 one time work order reduction can you expand on that? >> so we pay a few million dollar to the assessor oversee office i think the thought when times were good between after 2010 when the department had more money it knew want what to do with looking for funding other items and decision to fund assessor's office staff and determined their mission was related to the dbi so dbi ended up funding i think 20 positions

in the assessor's office and now that things are reversed we have this large projected operating detached dwelling unit looking at all the programs and looking to sunset them and this work order was projected eliminated next year and we have requested can we end it one year early and save ourselves the fiscal year fy23 amount as well? and the general fund can the assessor pay for its own staff and fire department similar we pay them about $1 million a year for outreach. um, related to fire safety but related to the building codes so the decision was made to fund did fire department for that work and

requesting that fire department who's doing the work sonoma's sonoma's responsibility for paying for that work and do it a year oriental than was decided last year. dbi will pay for half the salaries of the mayor's um, i'm trying to think of the toilet the mayors housing director i believe so dbi pays half and asking if perhaps that funding can be shifted to the mayor's office or dph so all are involved but can also i call to order to us paid for by other departments so those are requests at the same time with

the workforce development they do outreach that and city attorney involve dbi but is really their primary mission for existing anyway so our request that department to right now. funding to doing their own work. >> i have a general question i mean the city can be perceived one big company and all the departments are responsible for their budget but in the case that dbi is lending into bought deficit. >> like seemingly happens on a one year circle what happens if

you're staying in the scroll and time are good and a big uptick the revenue and have refers reserves a rainy-day fund i mean, i understand that cities are not-for-profit but a rainy-day fund that the department like doikts or any other departments operate so they reserve those for future- for bad proposed, you know, 5 years we may need this rainy-day fund at some point. >> ? basically a fund balance with the economic stabilization reserve basically i mean any surplus at the end of year we'll deposit into a reserve so use the term reserve and fund balance emergency changing and

we preserve policies how much we should deposit in the go years and two choices to make either increase is expenditures so hover more staff or fund other programs and other departments and reduce fees. is it that believe that some of the agreement or contracts with at departments happen on a more outcome yearly basis and less that like, you know, this is i think the pandemic was an unusual time but was really set into love unpredictable um, circumstances that, you know, we're still trying- i follow this in the news quite often you

hear people proposed didn't come to fruition may not the news have's anticipated but a sense of a certainty you have something like this we've never experienced before what is the approach nerd of how you come to an agreement between other departments to help to fund- you're having another opportunity. >> theoretically those have renegotiated every year bikeway once the services start this is an expectation and the general fund likes having that savings and services paid for by another funding source that is difficult to reduce or element once they've been started. >> fair answer. >> what is the cap on the reserve? >> indicate to the funds have

to be committed elsewhere. >> we'll determine that as part of fee study that the existing amount is $8 million i suspect enough to cover 4 years of a downturn something like that we'll definitely revisit the policy as part of the fee study. >> does the charter say it had is to be funded and half of the funds are returned to the general fund so that, you know, (unintelligible) with different departments. >> well the code says that the building inspection fund shall be ooze for department of building inspection commission related items so- >> (multiple voices). >> defined. >> can do a number of funding specifically. >> yes. but the funds are

reciprocated in the general fund caught take that but the 2005 can say you should be funding another work that the departments are doing. >> the negotiations. >> i guess to commissioner neumann question and my question about some of the things um, when you do provide you're able to bolster a program or another departments program and human nature of psychology when you're receiving funds for something that doing without it is a hard pill to as well but the expectation this money that-

hifshg. >> historically no requirement and wishful thinking that oh, yeah. sure if dbi money runs out we can fund our own program i pickup truck not a requirement so programs certainly maybe started not able to continue without dbi funding autopsy but again in the scope of dbis few millions of dollars is small when compared to the general fund to be fair to the comprehensive plan future land use map to include property located at 3509 rock oak trail as low density residential. up and have their own requirement they have to keep. >> yeah. >> but it is part- part of the complex to fund all the departments that is the majority

of the city. >> i know i'm trying to understand how dbi can take care of the its own budget given it is running into a deficit and negotiable that law after 2026 and i think i mean the question after 2026 this run out to zero how long will that take if you have the $5 in the receive in rainy-day fund how long in years. >> we're using that you see on the revenue and expenditure tabs are revenue budget $70 million and this year we're using tens of millions of dollars dollars already. >> understood but how long

will it take like we'll projection after 20026 things the economy is in san francisco shape the developers are building what protect predict on the past building up $95 million or one hundred million dollars. >> that is a policy decision and something we looked in the fee study do we want to build it up slop and keep fees high or rate payers some rove and figuring out is prudent the affect on pay rates and you say rate payers. >> the fee payers. >> like permit fees and themes. >> yes. >> i have two more questions and then i'm done i appreciate

the presentation it was very helpful to understand how the budget are monitored and created and tracked. on page 8 you talk about the layouttion at 42 percent of year so- the term utilization in terms of the budget. >> so i'm just the numbers are the 42 percent the percent of the year that is lapsed so 5 months of year have gone by divided by 12 months we're 42 percent of the way through the year and the other page the $18.8 million that we received so far four board member hennings for services permit revenue divided by the 49.3 this

is the three 8. >> where is the 49? >> oh, i get it i see it. okay. >> then when does our year start our fiscal year in august? >> i'm sorry can you rope. >> when does our year start in august. >> starts in july and then the search and applications we're halfway through the month of december and dbi didn't close like other jurisdictions i'm aware of two think christmas holidays. to have you sown a surge in applications up until this point and are anticipating more of because of code change? i think a lot of applicants will want to get their permit in by the end of this month.

>> we've seen less than we're hoping for but a slight increase. >> okay. >> so looking at well hard to look at december but november even this year in november compared to last year the total number of permit is less very thoughtful discussion because is helped to eliminate how the budget is tracked throughout the year and allows the commission to anticipate some things we can look forward to in the coming months and years. thank you very much. i do have any further questions do my commissioners have. >> commissioner alexander-tut has a question. >> yes. this is a rich conversation. my question i

don't know about the fee study but in terms of the budget if we offer load certain cost to the department are we not able to include that in the fee study we'll included in the fee study; right? i will be concerned about making a policy decision in the budget um, if it would effect our (unintelligible) later. and try to figuring out how to thread the needle of the budget we need to deal with and include services the bulk of serviced we provider in the fee study i don't know if you have the answer to that. >> sure- >> (multiple voices). >> you're right if we offer load cost to other departments we stop paying for assessor's office or fire department work we would not be part of fee

study so those would- result in lower foods that we need to charge to our fee payers and the more expenditure we have assuming that the fee study results in which is the goal in recovering all the expenditures than the less that we spend the let's we need to charge our fee parades. >> does the cost to keep this thing in the budget maintaining we have the authority though have an i don't believe an innovation to spend so the cabo san lucas if we have them on the books accepted money from other cities departments backfill it cost and keep them on the books

and include them in the fee study but backfilling that cost and otherwise (unintelligible) saving the agreement instead of taking it completely out of our budget are those oust possibility. >> we'll be double dipping money from the fee payers and services from other department so really i think we should think of- in the surfers should be funded by the other departments um, let them be funded by the other depends and everything else is covered by the fee payers and part of

reserve policy so if we determine that dbi costs are one hundred million dollar we still may set fees to recover $5 million to build you think the reserves. >> - we have flexibility there. >> so my question is we have to figure out a fee study proubl before june 1st; is that correct? >> yeah. just begun the fee study and hoping to have um, we'll get into this with the fee construing but a final report by april. >> so how do that play out

when did mayor says you're not off loading it, you know- we can fund half of cabo san lucas, you know, like i'm not going to accept- you rely too much on, you know, budget the housing director or- so i guess i'm concerned about coping them out the budget and not including them in the fee study at the end of the day, have to take that on ourselves because they're not able to offer them to other department in the short term we run the risk of being holding on

to like- to off-load and not included in the fee study and we have to pay for them anyway maybe a discussion for the fee study but- for- we run some of the risks in submitting a budget we actually just very much a draft. >> sure budget are required to balance sources must equal uses so if we propose shifting funding to another department the mayors office says no, and no additional revenue sources so they say you need to keep those services and can't increase our fees the option that mayors has to balance the budget is either use additional fund balance or reduce expenditures. >> so the budget that we

submit will be a balanced one and the budget the mayor submit will be balanced and every submission the department and mayors all have to be balanced. >> right i don't know. i guess i'm not understanding how that- that to me says the programs get cut we might be holding the bag on negotiations if it is 3r0e7b8gd we can't fund it i'm a little bit confused about how the draft and the final interact can you tell me if i'm wrong or help me understand. >> i guess i'll possess a scenario if we in the budget

submission say we want to our budget would be 3w58d except for those $5 million cbo and in the mayor says actually no, we don't want homelessness to fund this we will have a $5 million defective that the mayors office will solve for in they're proposed budget. and so they're options are either increase revenue so increased fees or reduce $5 million of expenditures somewhere else so from work orders or labor or any

where else our contracts. >> so that any decision any changes that mayor's office makes from our submission they would need to balance that on the other side expenditure change need to balance that on the revenue side. >> or elsewhere in expenditures their changes must be net zero somehow. >> that is how we're balancing our own budget. >> yes. that is an option for mayor's office they kick the can down the road and figure that out anti negotiation but a

limited amount of time to do that if they do that the more fund balance they obvious now the more drastic changes will be noted to be made later on. >> yeah. i'm concerned about the fee and the impact of the changes on the fee study and i believe interested in figuring out how to accompany those in the budget that's what i thought we were doing hoe we're in a budget defective and trying to bring um, that seemed like something that um, much more impact full of the defendant sit

budget and with we're going to talk about that but the political analysis what the market will be if we want to fund all those things and no expenditure cuts will the market support that have an impact on productivity will people delay projects or not obtain legal permit to do the work? >> and then at the end of the day, it will be whatever had changes that are made to the building code will be up to the mayor's office and board of supervisors so we'll have to see who our proposed increases

potential increases are impacting. >> i want to thank the director i want to thank you for you presentation that was very clear and thoughtful and commissioners unless other questions love uncouncilmember cassano based on your proposals i look forward to an update in january. >> next item 4 d update on proposed or recently enacted legislation. >> i'm christen the director. >> it is- >> this slow down is showing

oh. okay. >> so for ordinances first, the proposed ordinance to amend the permit license and business registration for certain businesses was signed by the mire on november 17th that again is for an existing extended program to help businesses get off the ground. >> secondly, proposed ordinance amending the planning and building coincide for provisions. that was ordinance was you heard in october and approved. outcome that was amend and retrod so the commission will need to hereby that again and probably have that on the agenda in january. >> regarding occuring commissioner has introduced that to look at the um, potential

planning coincide an 1355 market street trod last week and has not yet been scheduled and review the economic impact of enjoy buildings not scheduled and finally have prepared for a hearing on adu accessory dwelling units for last week but that hearing was withdrawn the week before the hearing that is now cancelled. >> and i can take any questions? >> commissioners any questions? >> okay. thank you. >> next have 4 e update on

proposed. >> joe duffey inspector. i'm pleased to provide an update and our activities have been consistent from previous months in november building and electrical plumbing conducted over 10 thousand inspections and 86 percent were conducted within two business days requested by the customer and many this same month inspections services conducted 800 and 41 with one hundred and 84 of multi-family residential and the building and electrical and plumbing received 4 hundred plus complaint with 13

inspections of 4 hundred and 12 complaint and respond to 85 percent of them and code enforcement 44 cases for the directors hearings our housing inspection received 50 save and hate complaint and responded to 80 percent within one business day and three hundred plus complaint 75 percent response in two days and also 200 plus notice of violation and they sent 20 cases for directors hearings thank you, i'm available for any questions that you may have. >> commissioners have any questions. >> okay. >> is there any public comment on the director's report 4a through e?

>> none. >> no public comment and go to >> 5. general public comment: the bic will take public comment on matters within the commission's jurisdiction that are not part of this agenda.. okay. >> looks like one hand raised. >> um, monique can you unmute the caller please. one second. >> hello commissioners. >> we hear you go ahead. >> thank you. >> um, first of all, want to say that i can't think of anyone that has done so much for the bay and as the commissioner is

fantastic for the residents and business owners and couldn't have a better person on the special commission than commissioner shaddix commissioner shaddix i'm proud of you and congratulate you on this position at right now and another note want to bring up on the themes for first free program that is (unintelligible) and i have a small business colleague restaurant in north beach who that (unintelligible) so she find out about the refund and morgan (unintelligible) and she got a refund i think within three weeks great job we

appreciate this committee for that so that's my comment additional with that, happy holidays to everyone and looking forward to next year. thank you. >> bye, bye. >> okay. thank you. >> any further public comment? >> seeing none, no further public comment [off mic.] >> i want to concur that we're excited to see commissioner shaddix in person next month expanding the commission is very exciting. thank you. >> thank you for that. >> commissioner shaddix (unintelligible) have something to say. >> i want to thank you for allowing me to identical in remotely and third street behind me thank you for the previous caller and sonya and director such a noise welcoming and

looking forward to working with all of you. >> thank you. next agenda item 6 >> 6. discussion regarding a fee study for the department of building inspection (dbi). (continued from the november 16, 2022, regular meeting.) any public comment on this item? >> seeing none, (bell ringing) same with item 7. >> 7. update regarding the client services subcommittee. (continued from the november 16, 2022, regular meeting.) any public comment on this item? >> okay. >> seeing none, now on

>> seeing none, now on >> 8. discussion and possible action regarding the department of building inspection's (dbi) cost schedule. >> good morning president bito and members of the commission i'm deputy director of permit services and here to give you the update or the report on the cost schedule adjustment it is determined by the building code in chapter one says the evaluation of the um, permit is calculated at the time the ordinance and based on the schedule post in the office department and so this insures that the cost schedule is in place to make sure that the fees we take in are consistent amongst various project i can imagine two similar projects submitted you about the same time and one has is reporting

the evaluation for the what the actual cost of construction like one hundred thousand dollars and another one that is reporting the evaluation at around $30,000 our costs schedule assures and base line and that is really the reason for it next. >> so as you heard the department is self-funded all the fees we get as revenue for through fees and inspection or permit fees community-based directly towards funding the services we provide we need to make sure that the fees that are coming in are adequately assessed the way we do this to assess the evaluation which the

fees are based on. you heard also that the um, our fees are based on the service provided and not on- not there anything beyond the cost for services doomed to be a tax. and that's we're for the role a tax we're a tax base department. next slide, please. i'm sorry can you go to the one before this?. thank you. >> our fee schedule is out of data in 2017 and at the time it was only updated with a across the board fee multiplier

and our last study as alex said was in 2015 this estimate not there to adjust the foods it is adjusting the cost of the project or the evaluation of project. outcome there is a direct connection between the evaluation and the fees but it is um, not an immediate change or for example, we adjust the evaluation 20 percent it didn't necessarily mean the fee is adjust 20 percent the foods are based on a tier system. next slide, please. so actually want to acknowledge in the room that we have building inspector matt in the room been most of year on updating the cost schedule of and put a lot of details into

this. um, the adjusted cost schedule it bans 2022 values and what we did outcome moved reorganization to the document and added a segments for remodel section for remodel. next slide, please. we used a source of different sources during the study. um, those are listed here in addition to several of that web sources to base our study on. next slide, please. this is an example of some of the changes that were made. the section on the left shows the tenant improvements were changed

from a one hundred and $26 plus in 2017 to $217.76 this was a 71 percent .8 percent increase and on residential we increased square feet about $98 to one hundred and $90 an increase of 94 percent. next slide, please. this outlines another other examples of increases for the study we did. and as you can see they're in the range of 22 to 40 percent increase. the entire cost schedule is included in the packet. and um, there for our

examination. >> next schedule i mean next slide, please. look at we reorganized to provide chronology bored to those items will fail from site work to foundation through frame through finished and so on and so forth we provided that organization and updated references as well general multipleers. we simplified we showed one attach construction and . >> multiplier to reduce like a type a to type b construction costs. (rustling of papers.) . next slide, please. so we take the changes to

detailed analysis so that the code advisory commission in early december um, actually last week and it was approved. where recommending approval from the building inspection commission and i'm here to answer any questions. that you have. >> thank you. >> and any one wish to comment. >> thank you. >> commissioners have any questions? >> so commissioners, if you have any questions? >> no, they don't. >> this item does call for motion to if the commissioners don't have questions do i hear a motion? >> i have a quick question i

wanted to go on. >> my apologies. >> to no, it's. okay. >> have you under the cost schedule something has it requires stakeholders input? >> no, no it does it is a objective analysis and the costs of construction. and we present this oirnd done on an annual basis and just been updating those for quite a while. >> you guess with respect the attached inspection for example, you have it building that is 10 thousand square feet is costs you evaluate that as x amount and another this same size that

evaluation is 10 x enhanced whatever that building. or whatever but for the is the same um, attach building let's see - a commercial or industrial building something similar does that cost equal the same effort to plan check that? you do associate that level application um, in the same way? authenticity been something that is argued to me a couple of times where, you know, you take a house that is worth, you know, let's say $2 million and take another house that is taking

$3 million to build the same effort between the two the maturity a spread in the cost of that is is providing examples is that was that cost schedule evaluates? >> it does that allows the plan checker to look at the projects really if it is the same level for to agree on the thirdly, should be the evaluation threshold should be. frequently everybody wanted to save money and frequently get people under estimating the value they want to pay less fees and preservation our fees evaluation is a direct impact on the assessed value for property taxes and so on not true the

county assessor assesses the application independently so we get a fair amount of people that under value they're projects and this is there as a threshold you look at to bring up the evaluations to the manipulating minimum we cover the costs the fee study that alex talked about this is a standard practice to establish that evaluation for the services that outcome are rendered to review and inspect those projects. >> a better way to crib describe defunct on the likewise rather than so i think that the- the cost schedule- the fact it is um, much mourp obviously is good news i was curious to know

who type feedback from the, you know, construction or development community but having that become more consistent outcome and obviously i'm occurs how that- i mean, i have not- i've scanned that but how that- applied at the time that someone is submitting an application will be helpful to have an example of that presented perhaps at another time. >> got it and i'll let you know you were at the meeting president bito a fair number of our clients that are part of cac and the antidotes we got back those numbers are still less than industry standard that is generally true we try to get close need to be mindful of

feces that people are charged and again, the fee study take into account no correlation between the evaluation and the actual- actual number of hours. that that takes to every inspect or check those projects. but the fee study intoxicate and we studied individual cases with a few examples type project and then that time motion study goes into establishing the fee for that. >> i was- at the meeting and i was- go to hear that they- almost everybody supported did cost schedule.. thing i'm i'm

trying to understand or bear in mind with the cost schedule the evaluation of something in construction cost per square foot a very rough order of magnitude what you're looking at it i think that is hard to compare to the industry that was valued at a hereby level that cost schedule is abandons how you derive your fees that gets two how than- the purpose to cover the expenditures for dbi but overhead so it has to be come rut that will be really, really how especially for housing- >> (multiple voices).

>> absolutely you can imagine president bito you get two types of contractors the one that is essential just gets a job done and a high-end that is three x or 2 x times of value of the our average contractor should we will be charging more fees because of that. >> also what we've seen is a lot of things that happened in the supply chain and labor costs so regardless of attach contract or contractor, you know, single-family home type 5 working on or some of the bigger contractor twhif all suffering from the same different scales we're- pleasant will i surprised that is understanding that cost schedule is evaluated

objectively and consistent 80 great for the commission to see howe you approach similar projects, and, secondly, how did the cost schedule arrive they fees and does that fee cover the offer head- love things we look at when we locate the budget but did expenditures that the dbi has to bear the cost find a salary but other things part of overhead when you locate the fees for any one of the project is it covering all the labor and overhead for any given project. >> okay. we can certainly come back to that and remember me saying at the coincide advisory committee visit this for

frequently and we talked about that the folks at the fee study and the industry standard for the building department to tie to a nationally produced schedule that come out every 6 months by the international code council we'll discuss that in more detail but certainly allow us to the flexibility to i go and flow with the knew what the supply chain causing the increase in construction cost we can adjust that more fruit and vegetables. >> the ebb and flow i'm trying to absorb this that's why oil asking a lot of questions did ebb and flow you're tracking or engaging fees again is something that has to have a correlation to the increase in cost of let

the record show you have are at dbi or weather it is that you deal with, you know, year over year provide people salary increases. >> i got it. >> i think that is good to understand how that evaluates and also the priority in the schedule is that planners can count on objective evictions don't have people undervalued and have their hair the contract or the three other people are you paying their fair share. >> okay. >> i don't have any other questions. >> thank you. commissioners don't have questions do i hear a motion to approve? the cost schedule. >> a motion to approve. >> second a okay. a motion by

president bito seconded by commissioner alexander-tut a roll call vote on that motion. >> president bito, yes. >> commissioner alexander-tut, yes. >> commissioner neumann, yes. >> commissioner shaddix, yes. >> councilmember freed. >> yes. and xhoikdz is dpousz make a motion unanimously and next number number o'riordan's performance evaluation. a. public comment on all matters pertaining to the closed session. any comments on that. >> seeing none. okay. >> thank you. >> go to item >> go to item inquiries to staff regarding various documents, policies, practices, and procedures, which are of interest to the commission. >>

those items that could be placed on the agenda of the next meeting and other future meetings of the building inspection commission. >> president bito anyone have any questions. >> i don't except i presume we'll continue on those items until january. >> yes. will be heard at the january meeting. which will be january will be on january 18th fy23. >> and are any commissioners have any you future items to propose or if not can contact me at a later date. >> okay. no items. >> okay. is there public comment on 10 ab?

>> okay. no public comment. okay. thank you, item 11. >> 11. review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of november 16, 2022. >> motion to approve. >> do i have a second? >> second. >> okay. there is a motion and a second any public comment? >> um, seeing none, all commissioners in favor of approving the minutes any opposed?. thank you very much. and those minutes are approved the next is item 12 a mission to adjourn. >> motion to adjourn. >> second. >> so. >> all in favor, say "aye." >> aye. >> yes. >> okay. thank you, we've got a long ways to go. it is 11:14 a.m. >> this meeting is adjourned..

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show you what we're talking about we're in a model house in the epic center to demonstrate a variety of things jen i will i want to focus on the portion of the house and tell us how brace and bolts help to keep the home safe. >> this is a particular foundation and that mockup shows the first floor right here and, of course, this one is the concrete foundation and this short wall that is in between those two you're first floor and the concrete foundation is called a cripple it is a short wall this is a particular vunltd in 0r8d homes they're designed before metamorphic coddling codes and will slide off the foundation. >> if you come to my home look at the previous work. >> so see if any anchor bolts between the wood and this mud

and concrete foundation that is a collar bolt. >> what if i don't have enough space power a think collar bolt and we have foundation plates made by a company where a flat plate that is bolted to the concrete foundation and screwed into this flat mechanism. >> if i applied to a bolt what is a it coffer what type of work should you do in my hope. >> up to $3,000 funding with the collar bolts or foundation plates and plywood up to the top of the short triple wall that going around. >> what are the tips. >> you want to make sure the capital improvement plan emancipation proclamation he will the short wall is less than 4 feet tall you'll use the

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active. >> food and drinks. there is a lot for a lot of folks and community. for us, it started back in 1966 and it was a diner and where our ancestors gathered to connect. i think coffee and food is the very fabric of our community as well as we take care of each other. to have a pop-up in the tenderloin gives it so much meaning. >> we are always creating impactful meaning of the lives of the people, and once we create a space and focus on the most marginalized, you really include a space for everyone. coffee is so cultural for many

communities and we have coffee of maria inspired by my grandmother from mexico. i have many many memories of sharing coffee with her late at night. so we carry that into everything we do. currently we are on a journey that is going to open up the first brick and mortar in san francisco specifically in the tenderloin. we want to stay true to our ancestors in the tenderloin. so we are getting ready for that and getting ready for celebrating our anniversary. >> it has been well supported and well talked about in our community. that's why we are pushing it so much because that's how we started. very active community members.

they give back to the community. support trends and give back and give a safe space for all. >> we also want to let folks know that if they want to be in a safe space, we have a pay it forward program that allows 20% to get some funds for someone in need can come and get a cup of coffee, pastry and feel welcomed in our community. to be among our community, you are always welcome here. you don't have to buy anything or get anything, just be here and express yourself and be your authentic self and we will always take care of you.

>> we have private and public gardens throughout the garden tour. all of the gardens are volunteers. the only requirement is you're willing to show your garden for a day. so we have gardens that vary from all stages of development and all gardens, family gardens, private gardens, some of them as small as postage stamps and others pretty expansive. it's a variety -- all of the world is represented in our gardens here in the portola. >> i have been coming to the portola garden tour for the past seven or eight years ever since i learned about it because it is the most important event of the neighborhood, and the reason it is so important is because it links this neighborhood back to its history.

in the early 1800s the portola was farmland. the region's flowers were grown in this neighborhood. if you wanted flowers anywhere future bay area, you would come to this area to get them. in the past decade, the area has tried to reclaim its roots as the garden district. one of the ways it has done that is through the portola garden tour, where neighbors open their gardens open their gardens to people of san francisco so they can share that history. >> when i started meeting with the neighbors and seeing their gardens, i came up with this idea that it would be a great idea to fundraise. we started doing this as a fund-raiser. since we established it, we

awarded 23 scholarships and six work projects for the students. >> the scholarship programs that we have developed in association with the portola is just a win-win-win situation all around. >> the scholarship program is important because it helps people to be able to tin in their situation and afford to take classes. >> i was not sure how i would stay in san francisco. it is so expensive here. i prayed so i would receive enough so i could stay in san francisco and finish my school, which is fantastic, because i don't know where else i would have gone to finish. >> the scholarships make the difference between students being able to stay here in the city and take classes and having to go somewhere else. [♪♪♪] [♪♪♪]

>> you come into someone's home and it's they're private and personal space. it's all about them and really their garden and in the city and urban environment, the garden is the extension of their indoor environment, their outdoor living room. >> why are you here at this garden core? it's amazing and i volunteer here every year. this is fantastic. it's a beautiful day. you walk around and look at gardens. you meet people that love gardens. it's fantastic. >> the portola garden tour is the last saturday in september every year. mark your calendars every year. you can see us on the website

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>> i just don't know that you can find a neighborhood in the city where you can hear music stands and take a ride on the low rider down the street. it is an experience that you can't have anywhere else in san francisco. [♪♪♪] [♪♪♪] >> district nine is a in the southeast portion of the city. we have four neighborhoods that i represent. st. mary's park has a completely unique architecture. very distinct feel, and it is a very close to holly park which is another beautiful park in san francisco. the bernal heights district is unique in that we have the hell which has one of the best views

in all of san francisco. there is a swinging hanging from a tree at the top. it is as if you are swinging over the entire city. there are two unique aspects. it is considered the fourth chinatown in san francisco. sixty% of the residents are of chinese ancestry. the second unique, and fun aspect about this area is it is the garden district. there is a lot of urban agriculture and it was where the city grew the majority of the flowers. not only for san francisco but for the region. and of course, it is the location in mclaren park which is the city's second biggest park after golden gate. many people don't know the neighborhood in the first place if they haven't been there. we call it the best neighborhood nobody has ever heard our. every neighborhood in district nine has a very special aspect. where we are right now is the mission district. the mission district is a very special part of our city. you smell the tacos at the

[speaking spanish] and they have the best latin pastries. they have these shortbread cookies with caramel in the middle. and then you walk further down and you have sunrise café. it is a place that you come for the incredible food, but also to learn about what is happening in the neighborhood and how you can help and support your community. >> twenty-fourth street is the birthplace of the movement. we have over 620 murals. it is the largest outdoor public gallery in the country and possibly the world. >> you can find so much political engagement park next to so much incredible art. it's another reason why we think this is a cultural district that we must preserve. [♪♪♪] >> it was formed in 2014. we had been an organization that had been around for over 20

years. we worked a lot in the neighborhood around life issues. most recently, in 2012, there were issues around gentrification in the neighborhood. so the idea of forming the cultural district was to help preserve the history and the culture that is in this neighborhood for the future of families and generations. >> in the past decade, 8,000 latino residents in the mission district have been displaced from their community. we all know that the rising cost of living in san francisco has led to many people being displaced. lower and middle income all over the city. because it there is richness in this neighborhood that i also mentioned the fact it is flat and so accessible by trip public transportation, has, has made it very popular. >> it's a struggle for us right now, you know, when you get a lot of development coming to an area, a lot of new people coming to the area with different sets of values and different culture.

there is a lot of struggle between the existing community and the newness coming in. there are some things that we do to try to slow it down so it doesn't completely erase the communities. we try to have developments that is more in tune with the community and more equitable development in the area. >> you need to meet with and gain the support and find out the needs of the neighborhoods. the people on the businesses that came before you. you need to dialogue and show respect. and then figure out how to bring in the new, without displacing the old. [♪♪♪] >> i hope we can reset a lot of the mission that we have lost in the last 20 years. so we will be bringing in a lot of folks into the neighborhoods pick when we do that, there is a demand or, you know, certain types of services that pertain more to the local community and working-class. >> back in the day, we looked at

mission street, and now it does not look and feel anything like mission street. this is the last stand of the latino concentrated arts, culture and cuisine and people. we created a cultural district to do our best to conserve that feeling. that is what makes our city so cosmopolitan and diverse and makes us the envy of the world. we have these unique neighborhoods with so much cultural presence and learnings, that we want to preserve. [♪♪♪]

>> this is a huge catalyst for change. >> it will be over 530,000 gross square feet plus two levels of basement. >> now the departments are across so many locations it is hard for them to work together and collaborate and hard for the customers to figure out the different locations and hours of operation. >> one of the main drivers is a one stopper mitt center for -- permit center. >> special events. we are a one stop shop for those three things. >> this has many different uses throughout if years. >> in 1940s it was coca-cola and the flagship as part of the

construction project we are retaining the clock tower. the permit center is little working closely with the digital services team on how can we modernize and move away from the paper we use right now to move to a more digital world. >> the digital services team was created in 2017. it is 2.5 years. our job is to make it possible to get things done with the city online. >> one of the reasons permitting is so difficult in this city and county is really about the scale. we have 58 different department in the city and 18 of them involve permitting. >> we are expecting the residents to understand how the departments are structured to navigate through the permitting processes. it is difficult and we have heard that from many people we interviewed. our goal is you don't have to

know the department. you are dealing with the city. >> now if you are trying to get construction or special events permit you might go to 13 locations to get the permit. here we are taking 13 locations into one floor of one location which is a huge improvement for the customer and staff trying to work together to make it easy to comply with the rules. >> there are more than 300 permitting processes in the city. there is a huge to do list that we are possessing digital. the first project is allowing people to apply online for the a.d.u. it is an accessory dwelling unit, away for people to add extra living space to their home, to convert a garage or add something to the back of the house. it is a very complicated permit. you have to speak to different departments to get it approved. we are trying to consolidate to one easy to due process.

some of the next ones are windows and roofing. those are high volume permits. they are simple to issue. another one is restaurant permitting. while the overall volume is lower it is long and complicated business process. people struggle to open restaurants because the permitting process is hard to navigate. >> the city is going to roll out a digital curing system one that is being tested. >> when people arrive they canshay what they are here to. it helps them workout which cue they neat to be in. if they rant to run anker rapid she can do that. we say you are next in line make sure you are back ready for your appointment. >> we want it all-in-one location across the many departments involved. it is clear where customers go

to play. >> on june 5, 2019 the ceremony was held to celebrate the placement of the last beam on top of the structures. six months later construction is complete. >> we will be moving next summer. >> the flu building -- the new building will be building. it was designed with light in mind. employees will appreciate these amenities. >> solar panels on the roof, electric vehicle chargers in the basement levels, benefiting from gray watery use and secured bicycle parking for 300 bicycles. when you are on the higher floors of the building you might catch the tip of the golden gate bridge on a clear day and good view of soma. >> it is so exciting for the team. it is a fiscal manifestation what we are trying to do. it is allowing the different

departments to come together to issue permits to the residents. we hope people can digitally come to one website for permits. we are trying to make it digital so when they come into the center they have a high-quality interaction with experts to guide then rather than filling in forms. they will have good conversations with our staff.

>> good morning i'm so honored to be with champions of-in the fight for civil rights and getting the bill across the finish line. the respect marriage act is affirmation the united states will stand up and protect the freedom for all americans to marry the person they love. it is reflection of the fact that for overwhelming majority of americans across political parties back fp grounds and every corner of the country the debate for marriage equality is settled. it was at city hall nearly 19 years ago when our governor then mayper begin issue mayor license for same sex couples regardless of it consequence. the court battle lead to success

sfl lawsuit by equality california represented by friends from land legal (inaudible) aclu challenging the state maerj bans. we move victorious in the fight we were devastating months later voters approved prop a. while the courts invalidated it ban the defense chb marriage act and all marriage bans we know (inaudible) own words that this new far right supreme court can not be trusted to up hold precedent or protect our civil rights. in contrast to the court this week's victory comes at a time when nation wide support is all time high. 71 percent of all americans from all walks of life acrautss dem graphics geography and party lines agree loving committed couples deserve equal rights equal justice and (inaudible) equal dignity under the law. it is big victory to be celebrated but not the sunsitute for full lived equality for all lgbtq

plus people and will not end discrimination across the country or the hateful rhetoric. less then 2 weeks after the mass shooting in colorado springs 5 people murdered and dozens injured we continue to morn the lives loss and support the community shattered. all people deserve to feel safe and respected in the place we call home. we thank you senator pudia and senator feinstein for colleagues and leadership. tomorrow we fight for a world healthy just and equal for all lgbtq plus people. next is a friend and colleague leading the fight on (inaudible) marriage equality for 2 decades. chief legal

officer jenny- >> thank you. 31 years ago couples in hawaii sued for freedom to marry. public support at the time was 20 percent land legal joined them and things were going well but september 1996 as presented the testimony to trial court a bipartisan majority passed the defensive marriage act. three months later won the twile shown nothing about the welfare of children justify marriage discrimination. over the next decades scores of lawsuits, hundreds of legislative and ballot sites and tireless efforts of thousands upon thousands of community members have transformed public understanding moving public support from 20percent to more then 70 percent today. the happy largely unremarkable family lives of married same sex couples everywhere have

shown the claims of danger to children and society as a whole if same sex couples can married is untrue. the road we all paved together since 1991 had many steps from the thrilling san francisco marriage chapter here in early 2004 and 4 years of state court litigation leading to our summer of love when 18,000 couples married across california in 2008 and of course prop 8. i like to acknowledge two of my favorite clients karen strauss and routh bornsteen, the lead couple in the state court challenge to prop 8 and their jen rosry and courage that helped protect the 18 thousand cupping but the california supreme court refused to strike down prop 8 and that took the

federal case chris perry will tell you about in-more litigation about social security benefits and immigration and the va benefits are still not finalized. every step forward has been hard one by group efforts sharing personal stories organizing public education, changing laws and changing lives by telling the truth. the respect for marriage act at long last removes the defensive marriage act and repplace with affirmative marriage recognition federally and state to state. it shouldn't be needed and maybe it won't be, but if the supreme court does outrageously erase the constitutional protection for the freedom to marry this law will mitigate the harms. f it doesn't override state laws restricting who can marry in state, congress doesn't have that power, but it can require all states and local governments to treat all married couples

equally. this law also doesn't answer the open questions about religious objections. in the private sector, but the laws bipartisan religious amendments make explicit safeguards for religious liberty and house of worship and organizations formed for religious purposes not craftstores, hobby lobby, not web designs 303 creative or bakers or florist. allowed religious base discrimination in many private sector institutions businesses siti taxpayer funded social services and that matters, because discrimination against lgbtq people in those context is a huge problem. that is why we neat equality act. we need the equality act. that bill is about the public market place and public services which must be open to all equally. the respect for

marriage act will require government at all levels to honor our marital status and it is necessary but not sufficient. we celebrate this milestone it's huge and it is not enough. we have to keep going. all of us together, making our case for full equality and for security freedom everywhere. and now it is my immense pleasure to introduce your mayor mayor london breed. [applause] >> thank you and thank you everyone for being here. i want to start with expressing my appreciation and that representation matters. having our senator, our united states senator alex padilla here to highlight this very important legislation that passed in the u.s. senate and still has a way to go through the u.s. house of representatives but

thank and commend him for his leadership along with senator feinstein. it extraordinary to have people like that who represent san francisco values at their best. i also want to acknowledge our state senator scott wiener for his fierce advocacy in sacramento and continues to be a beacon of hope and shining example what 80 can do when we work together. it is great to be her with our district attorney -sorry brook. i had a brain freeze. our district attorney brook jenkins and our supervisor who is joing us safai. leaders who support this community and why is that important? it is important

because when you think back in the not so distant history. not just 20 years ago, but back in 1967, the court case of loving versus virginia, the court case involved a couple interracial couple, a black woman and white man who wanted to be married who got married and basically dealt with a number of legal obstacles because it was illegal, illegal in this country for people of different races to marry. fast forward to just 20years later and our previous mayor gavin newsom had the courage to step up and despite state law and despite the united states law issued some of the first licenses to allow same sex couples to marry in san francisco. it was a proud moment in our city and our country history when

that occurred. why is this important? it is important because in other places there continues to be obstacles. every place is not like san francisco. we represent values that others tend to follow but way after the fact. we need this now. there are too many couples who have not had the privilege and right they deserve to be married and also the benefits and some of the other legal challenges that continue to persist just in case something happens to their partner and their inability to take care of their partners. it is a very very challenging complex system and it is very unfair. dr. martin luther king who we know everyone quotes often times is basically pushed forward a number of speeches

that talked about fighting against injust laws and how we as a community have to stand for what is right. this legislation the right to marry gives anyone, he, she, they, any person in this country who wants to marry someone that they love, they have the right to do so and they deserve the right to do so. we are proud here in san francisco. [applause] to support this legislation and hoping that there comes a day where it is not needed, where it is naturally a part of what people, human beings in this country are able to do. justice delayed is not justice denied and we will continue to fight and lead the challenges right here in san francisco and we are so grateful to our elected leaders on the state-wide level and federal level, especially our

u.s. senator who just was elected for a full 6 year term, so he's going to be spending that time-he's going to respond the time fighting for the city, fighting for the state and fighting for this country and so we are honored to have him today and i want to thank all of you for being here and i want to introduce a fierce advocate who i just absolutely ador. he is one of the most extraordinary policy makers i had the privilege to work with. he fights for yes, the lgbtq community but he fights for san francisco and he is unappall jtic in the fight. ladies and gentlemen please welcome state senator scott wiener. [applause] >> thank you madam mayor. you know, i think when we talk about this issue, which has been going on for a long long long time and this is truly historic, it is so important to

always remember this is about real live human beings and their lives and i remember back when yfs on the board of supervisors when the u.s. supreme court decision came down right before pride weekday and we had marriages here at city hall all throughout the weekday and pride sunday and went inside for a few hours to perform ceremonies and i still remember a young couple two young latino men from kern county who had driven up for pride to get married, and it became very very clear to me as i talked to them two things they were deeply in love with each other and getting married would allow them to stay together and not be separated. and so it was about real real live people who's lives are made better by having a country that recognizes their

humanity. that recognizes their existence so i'm so thrilled we are at this point today. i'm old enough to remember 1996, right after i graduated law school. the defensive marriage act passed and what a horrific and depressing time for a lot of us and it wasn't just republicans it was democrat s voting for that dispickable law. decades later and not have a party-a bipartisan vote in both houses to repeal that disgusting law and make sure that people's marriages are going to be valid all throughout this country. but it is is absolutely the case that we have more work to do. this is a historic win. i want to thank senator padilla, thank the president joe biden-(inaudible) our member of

grtss nancy palosi. we need to get prop a out of the constitution and equality act passed so this is a big step and know there will be many more great step tuesday come. with that, i are now have the honor of bringing up i are remember-i believe it was vice president harris that performed her wedding ceremony but the amazing chris curry. [applause] >> i'm incredibly moved by the rapid progrsds we made and the role california and san francisco played ibthe lgbt rights movement. mayor newsom propelled same sex couple forward by authorize marriages at city hall. sandy and i along with our 4 boys sped across the bay bridge

from berkeley to join thousands of couples elated by the prospckt of equality and even though the marriages were nullifyed later the year it started historic chain of lawsuits rulings and discriminatory ballot measure prop 8. in 2009 we brought a federal lawsuit and after 3 week trial and 5 year aappeals prop 8 struck down in 2013 by the united states supreme court. honesty, one of the happiest moments of our liferbs is the day sandy and i were the first couple to be married by kamala harris at san francisco city hall and it is remarkable how quickly we arrived at this moment 9 years later celebrating a legislative people by the people and for the people and despite that historic moment the

preservation of basic civil rights for all americans is not done which is why we need leaders like mayor breed, sinister wiener and (inaudible) immigrants grew in the san fernando valley and studied-since arriving at the united states senator has been a champion for working class families and staunch defender of lgbtq rights. introduced legislation to enhance protection for the lgbtq communitychieve full quality and proud to cast his vote in favor of respect for marriage act this week. my honor to introduce senator alex padilla. >> thank you chris for the kind introduction and to mayor breed

for your hospital-scott winer. -executive director townie wang and all the local state and national leaders that i joined with us here today. it is great to be here in san francisco. and it is momentous week not just for san francisco but in american history. as you heard we are gathered today after united states senate pass respect for marriage act taking the big step repealing the hateful defense of marriage act and codifying same sex couples into law. that is a big big deal. [applause]

and it is not lost on me where we gather today. it is very intentional. in a city known for not just tolerance, but love of the steps of city hall where san franciscans californias and americans from all over have come to wed the person they love. we remember the long past to progress that it took to get here. we remember the protests and marches on the streets of san francisco lead by trailblizeers like harvey milk calling for equality. we remember the lines that extended out the door and down the block then mayor newsom began to issue same sex marriage licenses. and we remember the proposition 8, the court battle

both in state court here in california and in federal courts and eventually the celebrations after the supreme court ruled same sex marriage the law of the land. just a few minutes ago i had the honor and privilege of officiating a vow renewal ceremony for a san francisco couple, (inaudible) chavez. where did they go? there we go. [applause] there is such a beautiful story and it is because of couples like them all across the country that bipartisan group of senators came together this week, because their right to marry is worth protecting, so this-the senate took a bold step to affirm the lives of millions of lgbtq and

interracial couples in america. we sent a clear message members of the lgbtq community are worthy of equal treatment under the law regardless of who you are, who you love or who you choose to marry. and i'm looking forward to seeing this bill pass the house. we hear tuesday will be the vote in the house of representatives overseen by none over san francisco own speaker nancy palosi and on to president biden's desk for signature. let's be clear, you heard from other speakers . we have so much more work to do to achieve full equality. the fact this bill was even necessary, the idea that in the wake of the decision to overturn roe v, wade, some of

the most fundamental rights are threatened by a radical wing of the supreme court means that congress must act. we still have more of you to protect against states who might try to ban same sex marriage if it is overturned and we have work to do to pass equality act, to ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity so we better protect all lgbtq americans. but this week, this week not only did we expand for lgbtq and interracial couples we fundamentally pushed our nation one big step closer to a more equal more compassionate, more perfect united states of america. [applause]

and in so doing we are proving that in america change is possible, progress is always within reach and we are willing to fight for the rights of all americans no matter how long it takes. thank you all again for being here and we'll open up to a few questions. [applause] imagine we might have answered all of them by now. >> alright. >> thank you all very much. you all have a great weekday.

good evening everybody. welcome to the 2021 civic center plaza tree lighting and toy give away. [ applause ] my name is "ms. kay" and i am going to be your hostess this evening. how are we all feeling? are we good? is everybody excited to be here? i know i'm excited to be here. well, before we get started, we have to give a couple thank yous. so we're going to give a big thanks to the civic center cbd off the grid for helping planning tonight's incredible event. and also, we're going to give a

huge thank you to the parks department for providing such an enormous tree. isn't it beautiful. we also want to thank theater's executive director, nick, for this amazing lineup of fabulous talent. and, of course, a special thank you to the great christmas fair carollers. weren't they amazing. so this year, the great dickens christmas fair will be running as a drive-thru event every weekend from december 4th until december 22nd at the cal palace. so make sure you go to their website, check it out, and do not miss it because this is going to be incredible. you know, the holidays really are a pretty amazing time of year. don't you guys agree.

we get to all come together like this and be next to each other which is pretty exciting after last year. and so we're going to go ahead and i think we should get started with the show. what do you think? so our first group is called business casual and they are an acapella band and voice jam festival champions in 2019. i heard them do their sound check earlier and i was completely blown away. are you guys ready to hear this? let's give it up for business casual. [ applause ]

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[♪♪] rock'in around the christmas tree [♪♪] you will get a sentimental feeling when you see voices singing let's be jolly deck the halls with bows of holly [♪♪]

♪ in a new old-fashioned way ♪♪

>> thank you so much san francisco. we are so exciteded to be here. we're so excited to spread some holiday cheer and enjoy this evening with you. ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas ♪♪ [♪♪] ♪ i want to wish you a merry

christmas ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart ♪♪ ♪ feliz navidad ♪♪ ♪ feliz navida ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart ♪♪ [♪♪]

♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart ♪♪ ♪ i want to wish you a merry christmas from the bottom of my heart ♪♪ [♪♪] [ applause ]

[♪♪] >> we will definitely be seeing them a little later. all right. are you guys ready for the next performance? so our next act comes to us under the direction of pam drake and they came to us all the way from the far away land of alameda. they have been seen in many parades all over the country including the festival of lights parade in palm springs as well as five appearances in the macy's day parade, once

with the muppets. i know, so cool. are you guys ready to see who it is? please welcome the tap dancing christmas trees. [ applause ] [♪♪] [♪♪] merry christmas!

♪ happy holidays ♪♪ ♪ happy holidays ♪♪ ♪ while the merry bells keep ringing ♪♪ ♪ happy holidays to you ♪♪ [♪♪] [ applause ] [♪♪] ♪ it's christmas everywhere you look ♪♪ [♪♪]

[ applause ] >> open your eyes. [♪♪]

[ applause ] >> let's keep it going for the

tap dancing christmas trees. [♪♪] >> my, oh, my. wasn't that fun. goodness gracious. people are still coming. how many of you have never been to this event before? let me hear you. it's pretty amazing. all right. so before we continue with the show, we would like to give some special thanks to tonight's partners. another planet entertainment for all of their hard work organizing tonight's toy give-away along with the san

francisco police department. we also want to go ahead and thank annie's off the grid bbc bake works and to the village for all of the craft and presents. we also have somebody else to thank. so at some point after the tree is lit and everything is done, you all should check out behind the tree is this really cool art installation that i think you can write on which i think is kind of cool when you can write on art, that's cool. and it's courtesy of shine on sf. make sure you check that out. make sure you give them a big round of applause. okay. so our next performers, i cannot wait until they hit the stage. they are poet athletes.

our young poets come from the america sores program at the i think for soccer. but tonight they're going to go ahead and it's going to be all about poetry and spreading joy. please welcome american scores. [♪♪]

>> christmas day. >> we see santa and snow. >> we found noodles and pine needles. >> we hear talking, playing, and singing. >> we taste turkey and more

turkey. >> we give to others. >> christmas day. cause cause [ applause ] >> christmas day >> we see presents, trees, and family. we smell hot chocolate. we hear bells, music, and laughing. we test samosa ice cream and treats. >> christmas eve. [ applause ] applause]

[applause] >> we can see different types of colors. we -- >> we can't hear you. >> we melt -- and all kinds of yummy food. don't put your mouth on it. >> okay. we hear laughing, playing, and

singing. [cheers and applause] >> diwali. [cheers and applause] >> happy christmas. >> happy christmas eve and happy christmas day. [cheers and applause] >> christmas eve. >> we have been helping with the cookies and making up the pans wrapping our presents and we sing carols.

and now there's nothing more to be done except to wait for christmas eve. [cheers and applause] >> christmas day. the tree lights are blinking, samosas are frying as we gather for presents on crust kris day. family and cookies are the choice.

hot chocolate this christmas day. family, food, and cookies are santa's joy as he sips on hot chocolate on this day, christmas day. [cheers and applause] >> let's hear it for america scores. [♪♪] >> all right. let's all go that way. wave as you leave. say "bye" everybody. [cheers and applause] >> all right. is everybody ready to light this tree? so we're going to bring some

people out, some special guests. so ya'll are just going to keep on clapping when i announce them. okay. here we go, we have phil ginsburg, the general manager of the san francisco recreation and parks department. come on up. as well as our city administrator car men chiu. come on up. we also have the state senator scott weiner and, of course, we have our san francisco mayor london breed. [cheers and applause] [♪♪] all right. so our elfs are going to help us out too. are we all ready to do this? all right. we're going to count down from ten as a group. here we go.

ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one! [cheers and applause] [♪♪]

>> say thank you. and now, we have a very special added performance for every class. you may have seen them on "america's got talent" or maybe on their recent jc penney commercial. they're here now to please welcome san francisco's first family of song, the curtis family c-notes. [cheers and applause]

>> hi. how are ya'll doing, san francisco? this is the most beautiful tree i have ever seen and it's so good to be out here with all ya'll. give yourself a round of applause. [applause] and i think i hear the mayor. yes. all right. guys, you ready? [cheers and applause] we've got nile on bass. papa on keys. kiki. zahara, phoenix. and i'm momma c.

we need the mic por favor sound people. so we've got a little technical difficulties. no worries. what we can do, let's give it up for the sound guys. let's clap. [applause] we just need a plug-in. amen. there she is. count us off, baby. she has to take off her one! two! three! [♪♪]

♪ i'm going to get to know you better ♪♪ ♪ how much fun it's going to be together ♪♪ ♪ this christmas ♪♪ ♪ and this christmas will be a very special christmas for you and me ♪♪ [♪♪] >> you can clap along. [♪♪] ♪ high-ho silver cheer ♪♪ ♪ this christmas ♪♪

♪ this christmas ♪♪ ♪ we're carolling through the night ♪♪ ♪ and this christmas will be a very special christmas for you and me ♪♪ >> come on, daddy. give it up for papa c on the keys. [applause] [♪♪] ♪ we're carolling through the

night ♪♪ ♪ and this christmas will be a very special christmas for you and me ♪♪ ♪ this christmas will be a very special christmas for you and me ♪♪ ♪ very special christmas ♪♪ ♪ merry christmas ♪♪ ♪ very special christmas ♪♪ ♪ very special christmas ♪♪ [cheers and applause] >> thank you, san francisco.

just so you know, it feels a whole lot like christmas now that we've got this christmas tree lit up. city hall. everyone wearing a santa hat make some noise. wooo! so it's time for christmas and hanukkah. amen. happy hanukkah. right. yes. [♪♪] ♪ christmas time is here ♪♪ ♪ happiness and cheer ♪♪ ♪ fun for all the children call their favorite time of year ♪♪

♪ snow flakes in the air ♪♪ ♪ carols everywhere ♪♪ ♪ olden times and ancient rhymes of love and dreams to share ♪♪ ♪ sleigh bells ring beauty everywhere ♪♪ ♪ yuletide the fireside and joyful memories ♪♪ ♪ christmas time is here ♪♪

>> give it up for papa c on the keys. cannot forget the drummers. ♪ sleigh bells in the air ♪♪ ♪ beauty everywhere ♪♪ ♪ yuletide by the fireside and joyful memories there ♪♪ ♪ christmas time is here ♪♪ ♪ we'll be joining in ♪♪

[cheers and applause] >> thank you, san francisco. >> thank you. [cheers and applause] >> let's keep it going. the curtis family c notes. weren't they absolutely incredible? goodness gracious. what do we think about the tree? it's so pretty. oh, my goodness. you know what's better than one tree? five trees that tap dance. what do you say? should we bring them back out here. yeah? give it up for the tap dancing christmas trees. [cheers and applause] [♪♪]

[cheers and applause] >> keep it going for the tap dancing christmas trees. mud mud [♪♪] >> all right. is it feeling like christmas a little bit? yeah. you know, christmas is one of the most magical times of the year. right. we have people going out of their way to be extra nice which is good, which i love, we have really good food.

we have hot cocoa and marshmallows. and, of course, we have christmas carols. i love christmas carols. but wouldn't it be really cool if we could get it to snow in san francisco? so my question is, first of all, i have two questions. do you think we can do it? all right. challenge accepted. and the second question is, how many of you have seen real snow? yeah? okay. well, we're going to do our best tonight to see if we can get some of that snow to land right here in san francisco. [♪♪] ♪ the weather outside is frightful but the fire is so delightful ♪♪

♪ and since we've no place to go, let it snow let it snow ♪♪ ♪ no it doesn't show signs of stopping and i brought some corn for popping ♪♪ ♪ the lights are turned way down low, let it snow let it snow let it snow ♪♪ ♪ when we finally say good night how i hate being out in the cold. but if you only hold me tight ♪♪ ♪ all the way home i'll be warm ♪♪ ♪ oh, my gosh, we're doing it. it's so exciting! ♪ let it snow let it snow let it snow ♪♪ ♪ the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful ♪♪ ♪ and since we've no place to go, let it snow let it snow, let it snow ♪♪ ♪ no, it doesn't show signs of

stopping and i brought some corn for popping ♪♪ ♪ the lights are turned way down low, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow ♪♪ ♪ when we finally say good night how i hate being out in the cold ♪♪ ♪ but if you only hold me tight, all the way home i'll be warm ♪♪ ♪ oh, the fire is slowly dying and my dear, we're still good buying ♪♪ ♪ but as long as you love me so, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow ♪♪ ♪ i'm dreaming of a white christmas ♪♪ ♪ just like the ones i used to

know ♪♪ ♪ where the tree tops glisten and children listen to hear sleigh bells in the snow ♪♪ ♪ i'm dreaming of a white christmas ♪♪ ♪ with every christmas ♪♪ ♪ may your days be merry and bright ♪♪ ♪ and may all your christmases be right ♪♪ [♪♪]

♪ sleigh bells ring, a beautiful sight we're happy tonight walking in a winter wonderland ♪♪ ♪ gone away is the blue bird here to stay is the new bird ♪♪ ♪ singing a song as we stroll along walking in a winter wonderland ♪♪ ♪ in the meadow we can build a snowman ♪♪ ♪ we can even call it ♪♪ ♪ he'll say are you ready, we'll so no man, but you can do the job when you're in town ♪♪ ♪ the plans that we made

walking in a winter wonderland ♪♪ that's right right ♪ walking in a winter wonderland ♪♪ [♪♪] [cheers and applause] >> you guys, we did it. we made it snow in san francisco. wow. that was amazing. let's hear it for the band. so i'm thinking that it's feeling pretty christmasy right now but what is missing? i think there's one thing missing. i'll give you a few hints. he comes in a big red suit. he has a belly full of jelly and a long white beard. it's santa! we're going to go and bring back business casual to bring

in santa. [♪♪] ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ you better watch out you better not cry you better not pout i'm telling you why ♪♪ ♪ santa claus is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ he's making a list, he's checking it twice he's going to find out who's naughty or nice ♪♪

♪ santa claus is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ he sees you when you're sleeping he knows when you're awake ♪♪ ♪ he knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake ♪♪ ♪ you better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout i'm telling you why ♪♪ ♪ santa claus is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ you better watch out you better not cry ♪♪ ♪ i'm telling you why ♪♪ ♪ santa claus is coming, santa claus is coming, santa claus is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ ♪ santa is coming to town ♪♪ >> oh, pipe down. i'm here.

i'm here! >> whoa, santa. you are not looking well >> all right. now everybody go home! >> boo! >> why aren't you going home? go home. excuse me. were you guys making all that beautiful music i was hearing? >> that was us. >> well, put a sock in it. get lost. move. we don't want christmas carols, do we? christmas, boo! say it with me. [♪♪] >> well, i kind of like this song. ♪ you're as charming as an eel, mr. grinch ♪♪ >> they're singing about me.

♪ you're a vile one, mr. grinch ♪♪ ♪ you have termites in your smile ♪♪ ♪ you have all the of a seasick crocodile, mr. grinch ♪♪ ♪ i'd take the seasick crocodile ♪♪ [♪♪] >> i was just checking it. ♪ the grinch when he heard a small sound ♪♪ [♪♪] >> you're missing my song.

>> get my good side. i'm just kidding. i don't have a good side. ♪ mr. grinch, you're a nasty wassy skunk ♪♪ ♪ the three words are best as follows stink, stang, stunk ♪♪ ♪ you're a rotter, mr. grinch

♪♪ [♪♪] >> that was really great, you guys. now, beat it! let's hear for the singers. boo! boo! [please stand by]