calling the meeting to order. welcome to the tuesday, december 20, 2022 meeting of the san francisco entertainment commission i'm ben bleiman the president. we'll start with announcements. >> start with the lands acknowledgment. we the san francisco entertainment mission acknowledge on the unceded home land of the ramaytush ohlone the african-american inhabitants of san francisco peninsula. as stewards of the land and with traditions the ramaytush ohlone have never cd, lost nor forgotten their responsibilities as care tashgs as well as all peoples in the territory. >> as guests we recognize we benefit from living and working on their traditional home land we acknowledge then cestors, elders of the ramaytush ohlone

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>> let's dot roll call yoochl president bleiman. >> present. >> commissioner pers is running late. commissioner thomas. >> here. >> commissioner torres. >> here. >> and commissioner wong. >> here. >> vice president caminong and american falzon is excused >> possible action to adopt a resolution find beings to allow teleconference meetings under gentleman code section 54953e. do zee a motion to adopt. >> so mutualed. >> a second? >> second. >> is there opinion comment on this item? no public comment. >> all right. we will close comment and vote. president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> commissioner torres. >> aye. >> and commissioner wong.

>> aye. >> all right. it is approve period. next agenda item is twoshg general public comment. is anybody here . ing to comment or on the the web comment on items not on the agenda? >> there are no public comments >> we will close comment and next is 3 approval the minutes from november 15 of 22. do we have a motion to approve the minutes? so moved. is there a second. >> second. >> is there public comment on our meeting minutes? no public comment. >> meeting minutes approved. >> we have to vote. >> good idea. >> let's do that. [laughter]. president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas.

>> aye. >> commissioner torres. >> aye. >> and commissioner wong. >> aye. >> all right. they have been approved. next is item 4, report from the executive director. >> good evening. commissioners and happy holidays. hello to everyone tune nothing person and online. i have a brief update this evening we like to save space for a couple of informative presentations tonight. wanted to reminds you of the things that we have been e mailing you about that are house keeping items related to required training due dates will be coming up in the next week if you have not completed your trainings make sure to do so online in the next week and any questions do not hesitate to reach out to commission secretary lenog. i wanted to note that we have published or commission

schedules for next year. take our pole regarding your availability for the next few montes and fake a look at that schedule and it is the first and third tuesdays of the month. however we do participate canceling a few next year due to legal holidays occurring the day are everbefore fourth of july is an example. beyond that, i wanted to call attention to your new year's eve next week our biggest weekends of the year to be staffed out in the community and make sure that we have our inspectors checks out the venn use and the upon events. we will go ahead and send over a lengthy list of events to emergency operations center that is staffed by department of emergency misdemeanoring. and other colleagues related to emergency management work on that weekend.

beyond that, we will be training our new inspector starting next week. i will introduce you to her at our next scheduled hearing. in january. i believe is january 17th. so prior to hasheville a big training weekend for new year's eve and we will have a late night one of the nights. if you have questions about that or if you want to see a copy of events lists we will sends that. for your awareness. i'm here if you c have questions. . any questions? >> i'm not hearing. ip don't have any. thank you very much for that concise report. and is there public on this agenda item? there are no public comments for this item and just for the record, commissioner perez is

now here at meeting. >> welcome. >> we will close public comment and move on the item 5 report from deputy director >> good evening upon happy holidays. we have received 74, 311 complaints since november 15th under a month ago. a few enforcement updates and ask question fist you have them. the first is gastalt. tonight you will hearing from danielle hawkins the owner of gastalt regarding enforce am action. i wanted to update you now about the latest site visit we conducted at the business. on november 19th inspector responded to a 311 complaint at 2. . 15 a.m. he heard loud music the front door was closed and kurt anxiety were pulled closed when he went inside he saw there was

a dj and people drinking. he spoke with the owner about the sound complaint and in violation of permit requiring the entertainment ends at 11 p.m. the owner stop and said the bar was closing thespecter waits and saw more entering at 2:30 and heard the dj playing again of people were served alcohol and i issued a citation after 11. received a complaint about the operating she was not there that night after speaking with the house manager she learned the dj did plan on exiting the club at 4. the music was being played after 4 a.m. we issued a notice of violation for this. and the owner has spoken with her staff and ensuring that the

entertainment ends at the end time for that evening. >> next galleria bo hem, an event space at 2391 mission. 's one time permit for grand opening on december third. we received 4, 311 complaints and the inspectors responded at 8 p.m. and again at 10:30 p.m. had a one time upon event permit did not obtain it from sf sd and could not have more than 49 people inside. this is condition on their permit from our office. when they responded they observed 70 people. there was no entertainment just recorded music. during the second visit at 10. . 30 band was playing and party was over 100 people upstairs and the basement lounge which was where a dj was performing the inspector spoke to owners and

educateod responsibilities of keeping the sidewalk clear. front door closed and patron limit. they advises to evacuate the pat rons in the basement it was a fire hazzard there was a single, deep, unmarked stair well. so the owners did clearwater basement as well as the front side walk. i issued a notice of divagz per door open during entertainment and violating the occupancy load. we received 2 complaints when the inspeckedor responded he benched full compliance with the permit. this business has expressed interest in a poe permit you neigh may see them in the future >> permit approximate agenda tonight applying for an llp

permit. in december had a phone call with an owner and i had -- received holding entertainment without a permit i explained they're not allowed have entertainment without a permit. will of owner understood this we received a sound complaint at 8:36 p.m. a picture of a woman on a drum set in the business. senior inspector responded to the cam plain and the band was on a break and benched a salsa band set up including the house pa system. he did not seat band performance he saw a drum set conga and a vocal microphone. next night the inspector visited at 8:45 and saw 2 classical guitarists playing through the house pa system.

spoke to the owner about the reason for his visit and explained she did not know this was an ampification. and i did issue an nov for hosting entertainment without a permit. next is sky lark final. on saturday november 26, inspectors conducted a follow up compliance check. revised permit and security plan. during the visit they observed violations. when they arrived at 10:15 the front doofrs open. no security and dj inside. they returned at 11:00 there was security at the door and asked to see id's and once they identified themselves they learned there was no manager on site. security guard called down to the head of security, charlie. he was at the end of the block speaking to someone in a car. charlie came and spoke with inspectors it was clear he was not familiar with the revised

security plan the inspect ors asked for the door security guard card he did not have. they seen charlie's they did not ask him. they asked charlie if the cameras were working they are required have video and autorecording chaurl was was able to confirm or if cameras were present. i'm not sure if this was bad timing butt security plan was not followed nor a manager was on site. and of course security should be familiar with permit continuous. we issued citations and the owner was reupon septive and responsive to the message to out line how he would rekt fight situation to meet with the staff for the security plans. they will always have an on site manager thursday-saturday and he had put out an add for mature head of security. and last lite owner shared heel sell the business in the meantime comply

with permits. we will follow up before the upon end of the year. >> let me finish you have questions. >> i have questions. we -- we were going to bring them back in here. theyor agenda this evening. >> got it. do any other commissioners have questions? i will wait for gastalt. i will have one but -- i'm blanking. okay. i'm not seeing more questions we'll open up to public comment.

no public comment for this item. close public comment. thank you for that -- and all the work you are doing through the holidays here. i'd like to say we will get a break after new years but the 9ers are going to be in the play-offs. >> all right. so the next item is 7, i believech which is -- 6. sorry. i'm off tonight. >> just the holidays. i think. >> number 6. i see. there it is. this is a report from senior analyst rice. and department director.

all right. just add music. so ready to go if the public pc on. we will share our goals the time line for applicant and it is staff and commission and along with next steps. i would like to explain hajam to band stands for. just add music is the pandemic permit for out door entertainment or upon afterified sound during the emergency. and bam. brick and mortar includes the limited live performance and place of entertainment and our fixed place amplified sound permit. we call this jam it bam not only

is it catchy but works the note once the jam permit program ends we will reinstate the out door permit. the events have been replaced by the jam permit but will come back in 2023. it is shared space and jam permit program are slated to end on march 31 of 23. this means any business who holds a jam permit and wishes to condition hosting out door entertainment and or amplified sound need to apply for a permanent brick and mortar perimism we encourage all jam permit holders begin application process now to avoid a gap in out door on going programming. and in a moment dylan will share the out reach we have done. the first thing a business must do with our office is get the property property approval.

this will look differents depending with the permit activity is taking place. for a business with a parklet. approval from the share's spaces program. for businesses or events with a roadway closure they need approval from the stay stay or escot and activities on private properties they need approval from the land use agencies planning, port or ocii. once the business has the property approval, they can begin brick and mortar application process with us. either a new brick and mortar or amendment to the existing. >> thank you. so, this next slide is the why. why are we doing this transition in the first place? besidesment to aline with the transition of shared spaces program to per minute nance theis an opportunity to advance

our entertainment commission goals of 1 other creating sustaining and supports arts infrastructure. with over 2 huh human gentlemen permits this would be a significant increase in the number of entertainment spaces in san francisco. and 2, the gospel supporting the live lihood of night life businesses and whoa. we heard that hosting out door entertainment in amplified sound increased the customer traffic and sales >> and it supports the recommendations of the economic recovery task force to driveway our city's recovery that recommendation is -- catalyzed neighborhood recovery through the arts. look at stats. to give you an idea look at the current number of jam permits with entertainment or amplified sound of as of december 15th we

have 276 jam permits with activity across all property types of the pie chart break its down by property type. 82% using parklets. the vast majority. 13% private property and 5% roadway close thurs is on going activity. note, we have issued 387 jam permits f for one timer special events a total of 663 jam permits to date. >> how many of our permit holders started the transition? tow date dpw received 460 applications for permanent parklets and of the applications only 22% are from our jam permit holders. in that group one approved with modifications to the parklet, 5 are posting and waiting for final inspection and 4 have been

closed or denied. important to note that none of the parklets the finished the property approval process to be permanent the final status is element status from dpw. there are still 78% of jams not started to apply for you permanent parklets. priority is to encourage the group to take advantage of this opportunity and get the applications submitted to shared spaces by january 15th for gentlemenos private property, thank you kaitlyn. there are 35 businesses eligible to start the permitting process. 2 submitted to deputy director and lastly there are 3 roadway closures out of 16 recurring closures. here are dates for e c staff and commissioners. january 1, we will have launched the digital brick and mortar

application. i will talk about this in a moment. between now and may third, 2023. we'll process jam to bam applications for new brick and mortar permits or amendments to existing permit who is want to add this out door component. application process for per mists look like the current application process. someone will apply with me intake. post to the conduct. neighborhood out reach and ec hearing. a few ways we plan to manage large volumes of application system instructional videos to replace staff time for in lieu of the intake meetings. we will do that for businesses with no enforcement history. we plan to have faq's for applicants and neighbord and may schedule commission hearings as needed in the new year to accommodate vol unanimous of new applications. and lastly we are exploring fee

waivers for gentlemen to bam permit holders to waist application fee and first license de feo this waiver program would wave now llp permit mrksz. so the cost would be waved for the businesses regardless if than i had a permit or not this is tbd and we'll let you when we have more information. excited share where you that we are in the home stretch for launching our digital permit application on our website. a labor of love and i'm so excited share the final product with you soon. screen shot is what the first page of the application wieblgs will look like. and it is the design to be a choose your adventure application. regardless of the permit type someone is applying for they go through this one form. someone could apply for any allal once through this form.

we are in the staff use are testing phase and i will open up to public use are testing this week. so part feedback is positive and as you imagine this will stream line our process tremendously more user friendly for applicants and efficient for staff. and one cool feature in my opinion is the digitize all the back ends data make it fortunate for pulling data and collecting data and better recordkeeping the goal have this live by january first. and i will share it with you. >> time lines for permit holders date and dead lines. which you will see are fast approaching. january 9 we'll relaunch our original one time permit like kaitlyn mentioned after march 31 when it expires.

january 15 the application deadline for permanent parklets and roadway shared spaces and the pandemic permits expire and our goal is to get them transitioned to prevent gap in operations. we have a 60 day wind down period where jam in good standing keep operating at the location until may 30. we are working with shared space team on coordination on the out reach and compliance to adhere to the time line if anything changes we'll update you soon as possible. out reach inform terms of out reach since september promoting the messaging to permit holders. through online channels like the e blast and social and the website. we did special faq. deputy director surveying and providing catered guidance on

private property based on zoning and programming. between now and january we will amplify they should apply for shared space by january 15th and they should act now to avoid a gap in operations. on january ninth, the one time after event application will go live and an announcement and e blast and social media and on going bases now and may, we will push this message out in coordination with shared spaces and track the data and the number of applications to help us adopt our messaging as needed. >> that's the end of our presentation. let us know if you have questions and thank you for your time this evening. >> questions. >> hello, thank you for the

presentation. with regards to accomodating the larger volume of applications you will did a video and faq? i wander if you are considering scheduling a one or two meetings in person or via zoom to accommodate questions people might have. to be at the same time and address the questions? we did show many web narc like at the height of pandemic they were successful that is a great idea to do something. >> and record it and share that version out. >> uh-huh. >> question? >> two, when is, is there was there evidence -- one reason for closures or denials for once closed or denied in terms of applications. the public works. >> like the there was like 4. >> yea. i don't have those detail in

front of me public works made a determination and sometime its is because i'm not speaking to these that were denied but because when it was put up the park was blocked the bus stop and things like that it is a matter of transportation access. >> right. and then -- in terms of out reach. i see the agency. and shared spaces but we including stake holdir and community organizations like merchant's associations and cbd's and stuff like that? >> not that we can. absolutely that's a part of our out roach >> i can help with the cbd's. >> definitely. yes. >> question? encouraged by the work going into this. i know there is a lot of plan nothing this transition i'm

somebody that wants to stream line bureaucracy. encouraged by waiving of fees and the application. it is still we're san francisco and bureaucracy heavy and we have the of course we have to get the department of public health and the fire assembly and go through all the neighborhood --the neighbor and vacations and stuff like that. is there a way to cut that red tape because people have been existing jam holders or come from a permit and the neighborhood. there is no like other grandfathering in? >> so. it is codified. right? so they do have to do a public notice. and they do have to do neighbor out reach. and i for one continuing will be helpful because that is what we have been communicating all along to businesses and to neighbors.

>> yea. it is good because the jam program was emergency program and did wave the requirements. this does provide an opportunity but what is great this has been a sand backs for the permittees to get to conditions that make sense. that is what our plan is anybody we put on consent with the conditions we are at now we will. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner thomas do you have questions before i go. >> i don't i'm excited about the whole digitizing of the application forms, too. >> nothing in city hall. people going digitizing. [laughter]. >> one, 468 applications for

parklets that is impressive that is more than i thought for the permit in parklets do we have a plan, should we have a plan to reach out to people who don't know that they can get a new -- the legislative version. >> so, we said we have 61 of those -- or existing jam permits or 68, is that correct. >> 61. 20% of the as of last week. for existing jam permits. i'm thinking about the other 78% that don't have jam permits and would it be cool if they did. have llp's and should we talk with the shared spaces folks to sends them a flyer saying, so you know if you want to have a music or art this is the press for that.

let them know we exist and can't be that. >> will thot hurt. >> right. >> um -- and then, i think we talked about it a bit on consent can you fill us in on the horror of approving 10 million at once. do we have a plan for how that will happen? >> you will help eventual low set this agenda. and commission secretary lenog will help schedule. we may not need special hearings for temperature dependses. if a giant consent.

might be rolling over a few months we are waiting to hear if there are changes to the time line that might be impending. so, if that occurs one way or another we are ready to roll. we might need a couple special hearings to review. i think the most part we put it on son cent. >> great. that's promising. >> police. >> i'm curious about the 16 roadway closures. is that the valencia street corridor. things like during the pandemic the height of the pandemic when things like slopped streets applying for recurring week low or monthly purmitt t. is a small group that have the closures that are shared space the majority will be escot permitted. >> thank you.

>> great. >> no more questions. >> is there public comment on this presentation? no public comment for this item. >> i will get my script out before i close this item >> we'll close that and next is 7, which is a report from senior rice. >> good job, dylan. >> [laughter]. i will report on entertainment and night life businesses in san

francisco. first the back ground and the purpose of the survey. a follow up to last year measuring the impacts and needs of the industry as the city was reopening. this makes the third survey after we start in the 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic. the purpose to understand the continued football and social impacts of covid on entertainment and night life businesses in san francisco to identify the needs, challenges and opportunity a year after reopening and help guide the city strategies to support recovery. during the -- 4 week period in september and october we had 103 respond acts compared to 163 last year responses remember unanimous. th for in year we focused on businesses including business ordinance. managers. nonprofits and self employed importance. there is more work that could be

done in the future to expand networks with employees in the industry. >> we divided the survey in 4 areas to help us understand industry profile. which sectors impacted are we reaching the right people. business impacted we are reopened for a year how are businesses fairing financially and operationally and what are their biggest challenges. our engagement. how well informd and supported in terments of guidance and customer service and last plea industry priority what is do they want the ec and city to do to fully recovery the industry. we wanted know which sector they work in the and the largest said bark live music and/or restaurant. brick and mortar establishments were the largest in the sample.

and in terms of which entertainment permits the businesses held, poe, jams and llp's were the 3 most common. over all 2 thirds said that than i had one entertainment permit. the businesses loeshthed in the city? in terms of where options are most concentrated the list of zip code system reflective. mission, soma, haze valley. russian hill. north beach. the exception of castro only had 3 respondents this year did not pop up on the list. business impacts. to measure financial impacts we started asking them about financial out look over all. good nows to share with the majority 79% said thissier their business could operate beyond 6 months 16% said they could

operate between low and sick months. one said they had gone out of business this is a significant improve freshman last year's numbers 54% said they could operate beyond 6 montes and 28%ed 6 months or less. we asked to rate concern their accident will need to close. the numbers this year tell us more than 1 fourth gave a rateoth higher end of concern 8 and 10. and 1 third gave a rating on the low ends between 3 and 1. compared to last year the improvement is minor. this is between 6 and 10% range difference in both directions. my take away here despite businesses being around 6 plus months there are manner concern they need to close in the long-term. >> we locked at indicators loss

of income and staffing. compared to 2021. people are reporting sales up but many hear saying the sales are down t. is broad distribution. and compare to the 2019 not surprisingly most said sales are down with 35% saying sales are down more than 50%. now look at staffing. compared to 2019 this year has seen the loss of 4fte's on average. this slide here confirmed that more than 2 thirds are dealing with staffing shortage. some of the solutions and adaptations included recruiting. working more hours and rusing showers reducing shifts.

attendance was both financial and social impacts. the vast majority of venn use and event organizers reported attendance was down compared to 2019 with 42% reporting that attendance was down 50%. pretty significant. to see how numbers compare to the city wide economic recovery here are slides from the city economy and the controller's office. job growth, here is what they found. in september and october of this year the hospitality industry saw the first growth since the pandemic begone a few thousand more jobs hopefully that is a sign staffing short okays will find relief soon. and looking at the opening of

new restaurants and borrows in san francisco the numbers from the controller's office say new business locations have been increasing since may of this year. you seat orange line. the next will illustrate concern and challenges by businesses across search issue areas. with public safety occurrence at locations 68%ed they agree or strongly agree with the statement. the most common concern selected were, safety to employees and to pat rons and property damage. in terms of concerns about public health. most responded 42% said agree or strategyly agree selecting covid and drug over doses the the common occurrence a kwsht neutral and a quarter in

disagree, strongly disagree range. now vast majority 3 fourths said they had concerns about street clean liness and with transit 55% had sxrns a third said they were neutral. the next 2 slides delve in the top 3 challenges to successly operating the accident. you see that staffing shortages got most with 41 mentions followed by low attendance, lower sales and neighborhood and street safety. the next challenges reported were street and sidewalk conscience due to homelessness, emcampness and street cleaning and higher costs of doing business and inflation challenges.

upon switch gears to see how businesses view the education and customer service. like last year the e news all right with the primary channel that people used to receive guidance followed by the website and social media. there is room to improve a third of respondents said they were not using the online channels at all. and when poleod the topic they want education on. music licensing and safety and security best practice received the most response followed by mediation with neighbors and harm reduction. how did businesses feel about our staff's responsiveness to the needs or question sns like left year high ratings in this area. 2 thirds ratings 8 and 10. on the responsive their responsive side.

15% of a rating of 5 or lower. the slides will cover what businessesment from us and the city in terms of help and biggest priorities. in terms of what the ec can do, moror different low to help businesses the common priorities mentioned were, advocate for over all industry recovery. one person said help us stay alive. more funding. grants for businesses. advocate for street cleanliness and public safety. they said they wanted us to promote specific night life businesses. they want us to make the permitting process easier to clarify and stroll line the rules, applications and ways to be compliant and improve mediation for neighbor complaintses. a neighbor's complaint should

carry less weight in the decisionmaking. of now in terms what the city can do to the help the industry recover the common themes were. measure funds to support grants and fee waivers. cleaning streets and improve safety on streets and at businesses. reduce crime. less red tape for permits from the city side and abc. hospital homeless population. get them in housing. and increase late night transportation and more resources for businesses like trainings and networking. that is the end. thank you for your time and i'm here to answer questions. the complete finding in your folder if you want to dig deep and look at data more closely. thank you very much.

questions? i wanted to thank you for the survey. and -- how comprehensive it is. a lot of the numbers reflect the consensus of -- myself and clothes of mine that work in the industry. it is almost numbers that people conjected overnight past couple years the same as what the data shoes. especially in regards to staffing challenges. shortages and employment safety and the reduction and sales and so i -- i think this from a night life worker perspective, i look forward to continuing the conversations i have been having with staff and the executive director and my colleagues here on the board in regards to -- perhaps narcotic be another

survey that speaks and gathered information from workers. i know this was by and large decision makers and the people that hold the permits themselves. thank you for all this. it is important. >> thank you. i also thank you and the staff for all the work that was put in this. it is good to have the data and the information so that we will know the path forward and how to do better and where we focus priorities and attention in the future. thank you for the work. wvenlg i'm messenger take the message and use it how you will. [laughter]. commissioner thomas. do you have questions. comments? >> you know, thank you for putting all of this together i know it is a lot of work to get all of this together and analyzed. i think it is useful, of course

the the over dose prevention needs and desires for support around this stood out and i think that is consistent with the w that we are plan to do around providing more training for staff and -- venue owners. on entering the prevention tools and on site. so, yea that validates the need. >> great. i had a couple comments/questions. in my business we have been dealing with staffing shortages issues and part of it is that staff e vaperate exclude hard to find good people and part is custodied mers disappeared it it is hard to attract good staff if they are not making as much money and many cases like one of my businesses tips are down 70%.

you can't get the same people work the same and retain them. so, you know it is a chicken or egg. right you need the people but you need the stamp i think it is more that the customers have in most cases not come badge across the board but have shift, downtown is not has a fraction of their previous customer base they had. and some areas may be a couple places doing better than before that is not the rules. so. for me it is about you know how do we make this city a place where customers return? that's a hard thing to do. i want to flag some legislation on the state level as lithink we mode to follow. a part of scott wiener's 793 last year allow out door

entertainment zones where you permit large areas the points was not just to permit street fair but allow businesses that are adjacent or part of an area that has an out door upon event to participate upon in serving people rather than bring in an outside vendor who does not benefit the immediate blocks. i know you know communications with scott wiener's office they are planning on taking a swing at that this year and encourage anyone to get on board and add haveicate. i think that could be huge, if the city were to promote out door events where they brought in bands and be great not to have a vender selling bore or drinks or whatever it is. great if people walk in a restaurant and walk out if it is fence in the and anybody who

worked you have, i know you have, the street faris are incredible. you know you can make you know >> an among's worth of money a day and that's a huge economic boom to businesses that is something i will push for we hope that tell not get left on the floor. i know ben is working on that and he is here somewhere. some of his beard hairs are falling down like snow over all of us. and then a couple other things. you know we did not dot full report but the loss of jobs in hospitality is overwhelmingly from marginalize the community and who don't get resources and have access to wealth. to point that out, it is important. we lost you know the people who debatedly could use this revenue in this economic benefit most

are the once had were left behind that gives us more of an impetus to do something about it. and then the final thing. you know the permit holders they mentioned this better mediation with neighbors would be helpful i think they don't know how good we are at helping with that. and i think may be a communication strategy. i'm not saying we offer free mediation services across the board but mediation is significant portion of a lot of your days and many of you. and i think fer mitt holders don't realize they can come to us. and that is literally our job to do. and back channel stuff that can be done and there is official stuff to be done that is not that would be low hanging fruit to communicate with people and when you have a complaint you

are not alone and that's our job. a perception is one neighbor have too much influence in decision making that is another thing to consider. >> and the nature of our city and it it is the nature of our city is that a lot of entertainment venues and permits happen to be in dense residential neighborhoods. which is not lightweight many cities on earth. whether or not we solve that at least knowing that they can come to us. and they don't have not on an island. we talk about things like that all the time. to me that it is an easy one. those are my ideas. great survey i'm happy the people responded lead is a focus on downtown exit than a lot of people think that downtown is -- you know is the have and have notes outside of downtown. not many people connect how much

of our of everything in the building and everything in the city operates because downtown has been doing so traditional low well and adding to the tax base. that san area that everyone needs to look at. it is a mutual assured situation. >> follow up about being downtown. a lot of people are working from home and not in the city. if they live in the subushes they'll not number san francisco. i was wondering if you have information or dast that reflect this? new reality? there were people talking about concerns with the change of demographics and remote workers not coming back dun town.

that's a big part of the report they have. i locked at them and they are terrifying. happy get become to you. i think the cultural shift that happened since the pandemic is palpable and i don't know what the key solution as you were say whatting come first. in terms but it has resulted in you know everything from attendance to tipping culture changed since that time. one thing i wanted to dovetail off that you shared especially in the impact to communities and i hope this data from the survey helped unseat the notion that is being bandaid about which is we don't need robust a night transportation system as we have had in the past. i think that the people thap feel the scaling down of over

night transportation, public transportation are marginalized community they're closing the establish ams and cleaning them over night that is important. >> i have a dalta point to share that is relevant to that. >> the very end of the survey we asked about their identity. and the background. we had 92 answer which is not everyone. it is an optional question. 55% said they were minority owned. 26% say they were immigrant owned. 47 percent said they were women owned. 20% said they were lbgtq+ ownd and 22% serving a specific clientele. you could select more than one.

the minority owned is pretty prosecute found. gi think that is fantastic in the more reason we ensure that the businesses stay in business if those that much of a percentage. representation is there. in the city. you know. right. any further questions? all right. public comment on this agenda item? there are no public comments for the item. why we close this and go to number 8 hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits in the entertainment commission and the deputy director will tell us the consent. 4 limited live permits for indoor on consent this evening. please note that since we issued a notice of violation for entertainment without a permit overnight weekend andon cent i recommend the commission move

them to the regular agenda of the if you like to do that. you need have a motion and take a vote to make that change now. i'm all for moving them for the record to the regular agenda. >> second. >> i will motion. >> and there is second and we have to have public comment. is there public comment on this motion? >> okay. public comment on moving to the regular agenda. >> no public comment. >> we have vote. president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye >> commissioner torres. >> aye. >> commissioner wong. >> aye. >> all right. now on the consent agenda. >> now we have 3llp permits for indoor entertainment.

we did receive a letter of opposition for eye and handses society. in your file when i asked the neighbors if they want to be connected with the business they declined. toward eye enhance i sent a letter to the neighbor and did not receive a response back. regarding staff recommended conscience points out that due to the zoning districts where mona lisa is located they are indoor entertainment have to end by 10 p.m. rather than 11 p.m. further central station recommended their standard calendaring condition. aside from the staff recommended sound limit for eye and hand society, upon there were no added conscience from sfpd. staff recommend the commission vote to aprove consent with the staff recommendations below. cowe have a motion to approve consent. like to make a motion to approve

consent with staff recommended conditions. why is there a second. >> second. >> any public comment on any of the business on consent agenda? >> open 2. 2 online. one second. all right. i'm going unmute. @am, unmute and you have 3 minutes for your public comment. >> yes, can you hear me? >> yes. >> so. wanted to comment on the eye and hands society permit i'm a local resident at 33 arerd and balboa in favor of this as it is a

local business that brings art and music, entertainment to an area that basically does in the have a lot to offer in the night life past the balboa theatre this . extra added benefit to allow the promotion of art and music would be great for the neighborhood. that's all i need to say. thank you very much. adam. keep have another person. claire.

hey. claire. >> can you hear us? yes. >> you have 3 minutes. >> perfect. thank you. mooim claire and i live in the outer richmond 2 doors down from eye and hand. i wanted to also voice my support for the business. i just wanted share i think there is really great neighbors they are aware of the fact that you know there are kids in my bodiesing on sleep scheduled and always check in with us to make sure things are good they support their fellow schools and businesses and prosecute mote other small buildingses in the area which is phenomenonal. they do a lot to make sure the neighborhood and the block are clean. and so -- i'm really excited the mom and pop shop i'm excited for them to have a live music. i think tell add to the culture that is a hall mark of city

living i'm [inaudible]. thank you. thank you very much. >> sounded like my house. >> sorry. >> [laughter]. i'm used to it. all right. any further comments. >> i think there are no more public comment. we close comment and vote. >> president bleiman. >> aye >> commissioner perez. >> aye >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> commissioner torres. >> aye. >> and commissioner wong. >> aye. >> all right. consent is approved congratulations. please follow up with our staff at your earliest convenience for next steps. and i will turn it become over to deputy direct. first up will be the latin

restaurant at 3198, 16th street. applying for llp permit to host indoor entertainment. programming plans singers. bands, dj, comedian and possible low karaoke they are applying they have already hosted entertainment. staff set a sound limit for their llp permit in the staff recommendation below. as they set sounds limit the inspectors due to the lack of sound abdoshing material and abatement it is a lively room. one way to contain the sound would to be install sound kurt anxiety covering the windows where the sound system is set thumb the mitigate sound leakage through the front of the business. other sound proofing options adding foam would [inaudible]

and help mitigate sound escaping to upstairs neighbors. we cannot require the sound proofing i want to share his recommendations after experiencing the sound first hand. i have told you about the enforcement. i don't need to repeat that that is on records. that is great. okay. out reach. the business distributed 70 letters to the residential neighbors and a copy is in your file. one opposition submitted that is in your file and there were no added conditions from sfpd. here to speak to you is the owner joannea torres. >> good evening am i'm joannea torres one of the ordinance. this is like a latin cuisine i'm

from venezuela we want to bring culture to the neighborhood. it is a [inaudible] in the whole of the area. i hope opened my first restaurant in san jose last year october of 21. and then everybody used to driveway 3 hours from san francisco from every where. everybody is you need to open in the city i decided to do it. and you know it is an expensive place i want to make it funful i want everybody to have an experience what venezuela and columbia and the culture and the food is. i decide to have entertainment and people is like you know local musicians they realliment to they reached to me and want to play music there. and i think i have a really good people who love it. you know and this is why i decide do that.

and i think you have been it is going to be great for the community. i love to do stuff with the community. weave have some involvement with the san jose city college and bring all our workers to make sure they go to school and learn english and even our clients a lot of venezuela and copatrol bians they come we make sure they go to school and learn english and in the city. so -- yea we have few complainings. i'm worry body it because i don't want issues. but i have you know a lot of people i know they own businesses there. they told me you will have one person that complain all the time. and it is the same person over and over and over you have to get used to temperature i don't want any issue with the person i wish to talk to the person can see what i can do to make it

nice smooth and don't have you know -- any problems in the future. i don't know any recommendation what i should do but you know i want to make everything right for everybody in the community. >> questions? a clarifying question. the -- the there is one complaint. primarily? >> there was a letter of concern submitted from a neighbor. but after responding i responded to the neighbor there was no back and forth. i did not consider opposition it was more sunrising concern and quelled through education. i would say there is one person complaining who submitted 311 complaints and e mail to me. >> okay. >> can you tell us more about what measures you will take to

you know mitigate the sound. and you are in a dense area. a busy commercial corridor and residents around what steps i know kaitlyn out lined. anything that i need to do to improve like nobody can don't bother the neighboris will do it whatever, whatever it takes to make the place right for all the neighbors and don't have any issues i will do it i'm willing to do everything. one of our nashes maria, say she sleep her bed on the top floor we play the mushth and say it does not bother her. i don't hear anything. but get used one person will complain all the time. get used to it. i don't know but whatever the recommendation from inspector you know if whatever has to do sound proof whatever i have to

do definitely i am willing to do temperature mentioned installing sound kurt ans covering the front windows and also sound treatment in the form of foam or panels on the wall or the ceiling. those might be things you >> supposedly i talked to the previous you know the not the owner was a guy that bar tends in the the same place. informed mow they did this we did all the sound proof. but he say that did not do anything. got equipment where they even measured the sound. and he say he say the right sound but cam plain anyway. he say the person come from the back door and so i say if i have to he say there was already there sound proof i don't know i

don't have the knowledge i can bring someone and mar radoes not hear anything she live on the top floor. >> these remember recommendations our senior inspector made after seeing the site, i think. these might be things that he recommends. >> okay. do you have anybody that you can refer mow to seat person who can do nastuff like that. i'm afraid we don't. >> recommendations. aside from offering recommendations if you want to go further in seeing what you might do you would want to, i mean like somebody who can check. dot sound proof and somebody saying okay. >> construction of it. why exactly. >> something like. you would. to make sure to hire a contractor for that work. >> also off line i have importance in this exact realm i

had 11 brick and mortar spots and every one has a neighbor and so i'm happy to provide nonentertainment commission assistance outside. du have something. gi think i understand. a lot of the construction mitigation and stuff is daunting. there is one very simple one i think i would recommend if this is approved is number one thank you for you know making the effort to get this finalized. this is the most important part. but also in the approval of this, and something this has been communicated to you and your staff is that there is the part about hours. you know and making sure that the live music component is not after a certain hour. that is an easy step. in order to for your own for

your business success and people attending y. yea. >> commissioner perez. >> hello, thank you for coming inform i want to thank you for coming in compliance with the rules and regulations of entertainment in san francisco and thank you for bryning venezuela food and culture in san francisco it is nice to have diversity in the city. my question is how do you plan to respond to future complaints from your neighbors in real time of if they are hearing a noise or complaints. how would what is your operating procedure to respond in role time. number one is follow the rules. i want to make surety volume the permit allow number one. and i think if i follow the rowels in with the compliance i will not have the issues. but if i have those issues i think i need to address with the person to see how do we both get

to resolution. >> your staff or what is the procedure if somebody calls your business to complain how does that get resolved how does it get to you and resolve that. >> i think we have to implement a new procedure regarding that. i have other buildingses and i i have no idea about restaurant i'm new in this area but i will make sure i will you know create new process and procedures and have a meeting with employees and see how we are going to you know follow the procedure and make sure everything guess well with the city. >> okay. thank you. >> yes. i have a few things. first of all, i want to be clear. who we and are what we do it sounds like there was confusion there. we are created 20 years ago the

police were the once enforcing sound and they were bad at it. neighbors had complaintso offense to the police they are great, enforcing upon sound is not the favorite part and they don't want to do it. there were instance the police were in not enforce sound in a way anyoned and that's how the entertainment commission started we were a place that sat between neighbors and music license. live music is anything not spotify on a computer. unless a one person with a guitar. you can't have a mer permit or a band with 2 people with guitars you can't have. does not matter if they are plug in the or not. when you get a license from us, you are then subject to us as the regulators. we have a dual mission. we are a charter amendment it is

in the charter is that we regulate sound and enforce security and sound and promote night life. we are a strange combination of things as far as city hall goes. like d ph the d. public health does in the also promote small business they make sure things are healthy. you will find us the our team to be committed to both sides of that mission and -- in fact i don't know if you saw the survey but 66% of the people that we regulate gave us 8 to 10. in being responsive and helpful. so i don't know i have not seen survey results for departments i say what we other top offal of them because most of them did not have that relationship with the people they regulate.

i would utilize the knowledge that our staff has and i'm happy to talk to you off line. that is one thing. good things the bad thing about that is we will send inspectors and they will check on and you check to make sure music is not past 11 temperature is 11 for this llp it needs to cut off before 11 every time. no one more song. that will get cause problems and neighbor will record it and you are outside not operating in compliance. this is the down side the up side is if we show up and you are in compliance especially numerous times then we deprioritize and we have a limited amount of resources and not able to send an inspector every time for one neighbor complaint if they complain multiple times and we show up and everything is order they are doing you are doing your part.

may be that neighbor is hearing something else or confused. it it is actually a nice balance that is struck. as long as you follow the rowels we give and that said, i think making finding the neighbors where they are has been a strategy for me has been most effective beyond following the rules. in 15 years of owning buildingses in the city and having an incredible number of neighbors commring at mow constantly the benefit way to to work through it is to make friendses with them. they will sayure are little loud last night can be quieting tonight. i will say no problem they say thank you they know i'm trying and not and i will add one more thing is that commissioner perez said if somebody has a complaint

they can call 311 and call the police right. by the time they are angry. and feel helpless and can't sleep or upset it is better if they have your cell phone number and not yours but your managers. when we have repeated issues with neighbors we have a text chain the neighbor and all of our managers. it does in the matter who is wing that night that neighbor say its is loud. no problem. turn it down we may not turn it down all the way where they want it to be they are thankful for that. in the heat of the moment when they are upset when they have control, over the situation it just calms them down actively so i would recommend you know rail going above and beyond to reach out. the other thing as the business owner you have to be the adult neighbors whether this is one under now responsibility they don't have a left lanes. no matter what they say to me or

what come out of their mouth i have to be the adult and say thank you very much. i'm sorry i will do my best that come with having the license we give you. over all it is happening all overnight city every night. it is not just this one spot that you have there. of we're clear. we're following our law you are following your law and everybody is okay. speak a lot there.

i think it might be helpful. >> yea. actually the inspector the one -- he give me advice exactly what you told me now and i appreciate that. and you know -- >> i have done sound proofing many times. some things that cost a lot and have lit irrelevant no benefit like a study where you hire high priced person to study the sound. and they give you a piece of paper they change the last person's name to your name for 3 thousand dollars and that's all they did and there other things moving speakers. taking speakers away from the walls. sound curtains are helpful. i'm happy to chat with you >> that would be great. >> yea. thank you. thank you. i appreciate it. >> further questions. >> you can have a seat.

>> all right. anymore comments from commissioners. before we move on. to the motions. >>well, let's see does anybody want to motion. move to approve with the good neighbor policy and the sound abatement internal limit amove proved at 86. per staff recommendation. >> you are move to approve. >> [laughter]. approximate a second. >> second. >> is there public comment on this? hi. i wanted express my support for the spraunt everrestaurant as a new neighbor hi a handful of chances to go in it is a

wonderful restaurant. live music.hink tell be amazing thank you. no more opinion comments y. we'll close comment and vote. >> president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner perez. >> aye >> commissioner thomas. >> aye >> commissioner toerz. >> aye >> commissioner wong. >> aye. >> congratulations you have been approved. follow up with our staff as soon as possible for next steps and going forward make sure you are clear on the rules going forward. >> thank you. >> all right. now we have one regular permit application on the regular agenda. deputy director will introduce it. >> the final permit on the regular agenda is for pale p oe and bp change in ownership permit for kilowatt at 3166,

16th street a new team bought the space and including live bands. drag shows, comedy and more. keep the dba name kilowatt but revamping the inside of the space. slated reopen early next year when sounds system is ready staff will set a limit in accordance with mp c article twine. in your file you see the out reach all right distributed to 44 residential and commercial units and online penn petition supporting them at the time had over 2500 signatures we received one all right of opposition the applicants spoke with the neighbor in person and quelled occurrence plans for keeping the alley clear of lightering. no added conditions from mission station and we recommend approval with good neighbor policy. here to speak with you are owner katie rose mccarthy.

peter and rick. >> hello. thanks for having us. i'm katie rose >> i'm peter yoochl i'm rick. >> kaitlyn great intro half. what i was going to say the new owners of kilowatt on 16th and valencia. so that place has the kale watt has a rich history of music history and bar, event space. our goal is to preserve that history. revive the space a friend low neighbor bar with everybody is welcome and breathe new life and energy in the live music that has not been there in a decade. so i hope to bring that back 3 of us are passionate about the industry. i was counting the 3 us over 40 years of music venn rue work experience. we worked at bottom of hill for

a decade. park side. we are familiar with entertainment commissions your people and talked to them. used to basically work nothing venues that hire semi residential and having a good relationship with neighbor system very important one of the most important things we have given neighbors our cell phone number and encourage them to send pictures of dogs the normal thing. i want to say being here is an honor of my lifetime it made i think everything i have done up to this point make sense this is what i was supposed to do. and i think all of us feel the same way. i will let them take it over we will go over the history of kilowatt it is wild. >> we put together a power point presentation to go over the history of what the building at 3160, 16th street has been. it started in built in 1900.

fire house 7 actually during the 1906 earthquake the fire house that saved the mission. while they fought the fires had building was burnt. rebuilt in 1906 this is a photo there now. which verified with jamie oshg kiest from the fire department history museum this was taken in 1914 temperature is the actual inside of the building of kilowatt. currently. so if you look in the background, it is a hay lost and under this where the stage would be later in the presentation we have photos of that. i was dig around in the attic and i came across this helmet shield on the right side cover in the dust. from that time period if you look at zoomod the left side an

actual shield about the same from that time performed i sent this over to jail and he she was blown away. it -- we're not sure how long the building functioned as a fire house but then and there in 1968 the building sold to raymond s. clark his sons still own it and a single owner since the fire house. and then most of the history we have been able to put together shoes the building used a venue or place of entertainment. the closest was the mid to late 80s fire house number 7 and the next door with the 16th note music storm they did shows together. this was the noticers we have. that was sent to us. i will let peter take over.

as a huge music history nerd it is an honor to take over this space. and it has been cool to dig through all the history. these are photos down stairs when it was paula's club house which was a queer bar and event pace in the 80s and early 90's. while the venn use provided live music and performance, kilowatt continued the music venue in 1994. here is another shot of the club house that dude has a sweet red vest am cool. well is an early shot of our sign. and so, here is a photo of the early shows i believe this is -- halloween 1994. so -- kilowatt provided a stage for local and touring bands in the indy/punk scene from 94 to

98. a lot of notable bands there. one of the note notable was pavement they did their record release show for 1997. if anybody is [inaudible]. there is a shot of steven on stage. and -- also in a lot of ways there was also an art studio upstairs. do we have a picture of that. here are sold out shoes. like one of the very famous san francisco poster artists al even forbes at kilowatt and we fwt to work with him on new designed. and i think one of my main point busy this is in the last few decade there is are stories of the amazing music venn use closing you hear the stories. i can't think of a time i seen a venue that stop doing music and

the ability to bring that back. and i just continuing is a rare and incredible opportunity and i will let katie take over. i'm excited we are the people to do that i think that this is a dream team for me. this is obvious music sounds nerd can make anything sound good they are excellent at sound proofing and done it i have been booking bands for over a decade i think this is an awe some team of people that will bring it to life and energy that it deserves and we thank you for your time. i wanted make a note. the building has already had sound proofing. the wall facing al bion facing

the alley is 3 layers thick. there is sound curtains at the front and back exit we will use. >> this was today. at 1 o'clock. that is what it looks like. >> thank you, questions. >> more of a comment. i'm so psyched i was excited see this on the agenda. i know you were reviving the pace as an aging riot girl. and making myself i'm so excited have folk who is are industry veterans. know how to do this successful though lee in a way that honor the the h. of the space in a way that gives back to the communities. i think telling be part of the bigger story of san francisco coming. thank you and i can't wait to come and be a patron. >> thank you. >> no doubtses. >> commissioner perez. >> thank you for coming and

thank you for providing space for drag performances in the city. karaoke and comedy. awe some combination. my question with your community out reach. on your permit application says it is not yet complete i wonder if you have updated to share about neighborhood out reach. >> it is required >> we do we sent out. >> i will let you speak. commissioner perez at the time of submission that was months ago. in the memo tonight out lines the out roach they completed. it is always a requirement and always collected. >> i want to you to share the out roach to date. why awe some we started with a letter and worked on a draft and sent it out to the block and all 5 of us we covered the block and went door to door and met neighbors that's how we met [inaudible] and -- then what else. we started online petition out

to san francisco residents we hit i think 2600 signatures now. and over 100 comments. of support. and then also in the neighborhood like the couple we ran into i'm sure the people that were concerned about noise we exchanged cell phone numbers that will be our policy is speak to naeshs directly we want them to know our names andment to know their dogs. we we want to be a part of the community and -- yea and any concerns they have i than alley had problems but it had problems evening no matter a borrow or not it is where that street is. we told the neighbors we want to monitor that with them and partner with them and make them feel safer so we are a part of keeping it safe there. >> are you open now? >> when is the expected grandz opening? >> january or february.

>> mid january? >> good luck. >> thank you. >> i wanted echo my commissioners sentiment in this is exciting for me having been a san francisco residents i'm just this is great news. and -- in my capacity i have also the executive director of the lbgtq+ district if you need input in programming that corridor is a site of historic interest to our cultural district not in our footprint but to that ends i would ask in terms of community out roach if you roached out to the american indian cultural district? those are it is in the american indian cultural district's footprint and the quato a corridor of significance for them, too. i would ask if you roached out to them?

>> we would really like to. if you have that information. yea. >> i can pass along. >> thank you. >> ooum curious to hear from commissioner thomas should they bring back kilowatt. commissioner thomas. i within to a few good shows and events at the club house become in the day. i'm looking forward to what they bring to kilowatt. >> yea. i don't have major questions but i'm -- really excite body this. it is grit you are keeping the name and the history. it is not turning to something that will people write us about and say, how could you. thank you for that. [laughter]. yea. no questions from me. so. all right. you can have a seat. >> thank you.

why thank you. >> we want start with motions and will end with public comment. any motions? i move to approve this with staff recommendations. seconded. now public comments. one porn zoom >> hello i work for. and met with the folks early. and i used to work at the kilowatt i cannot actual mou ridiculous low excited i am and

i worked with the folkos different endefers special they are upstanding. and i wanted give my thumb's up on behalf of [inaudible]. thank you, julie. we'll close public comment. president bleiman. why no. just kidings. >> yes. >> [laughter]. i have been planning that. he's never done habefore. >> [laughter]. >> geez. >> okay. >> aye from president bleiman. >> okay. for the record it is an aye. >> commissioner perez. why yes. why commissioner thomas. why aye. >> commissioner torres. why aye. >> and commissioner wong. >> aye. >> congratulations! i will follow up with staff when

you can. can't wait for that opening. mid january. i want to see it open mid january. yea, yea. >> where can we follow the news are you on instagram? >> cool. >> we have one more item before the final, final and this is number 9 discussion of the permit conscience of limited live performance permit 1601 ga salt regarding on going enforce am actions at the business. and i believe deputy drshth this was to bring owner of gastalt before the commission for a second time to discuss permit violations the last appearance was on february first of 22. to recap since 21 received 79,

311 sound complaints. 18 of the complaints prior to the business granted the llp permit on july 29 of 21. the remaining 60 complaints made since the permit was guaranteed in total the business in violation of permit 12 out of the 45 times we visited in response to complaints to date gastalt received 2nov and 6 citations. as you are aware the violations at the business have been about operating above sound limits or past hours of entertainment that require an 11 ends time. the latest 2 on october 29 and november 19th for operating entertainment beyond the permit condition and time of 11 p.m. 2 a.m. and 2:30 a.m. n. last 12 months the business done operating after 11 p.m. on sick occasions.

the agenda item is a discussion and possible action in which the commission as the ability to recondition the permit. we don't have specific staff recommendations for recongress we would suggest reminding the permit holder of following the rules and adherence to permit conscience including ending entertainment by 11. severing in your file. >> here to speak is danielle? no. i'm sorry. >> can you make sure you are in the microphone. hi, i'm sean. and i'm the current mc manager at gastalt. we had problem employees in the past and hope to fix that immediately with cleaning house and hiring new people on to aboyd by the law. and so, yea. >> department director with you remind us what their current llp

allowances are. 7 days a week >> yes full 7 days 11 p.m. and sound limit. questions from commissioners. what is your full name. sean sabre. long time bay area residents. and i'm in the process of starting negotiations to buy business and so the problems of the past will not be happening in the fufrment at all and we will doing drastic changes. how long have you been a manager there. why a year now. >> okay. have you been in touch previously about regulation. >> okay. >> no, i know you spoke with my inspectors. mike and. andrew you attribute the incident in violation of the

permit to prior employees no long are work there? that's correct. a few still work there we have staffing issues but getting rid of them. why and was there an on sight manager during that time or were you their manager. >> i was partly responsible i was not there when the violations occurred but it is kind of someone that was operating the business with me that was w thering at the time and it is kind of they will be out of the picture. >> besides change the staff are there specific policies that you will create within the operations and business so this problems will not occur anymore? >> yes, i will have a strict code of construct. they are not suggestions they

will be hard rowels to follow and ghan does not follow the rowels will not be employed there. >> what stopped you have having that hand become and the rowel in place during the last year. it was not my business. i was strict low a manager. without authority to do that i can make suggestions but not my call. >> so it was danielle's call. you have not been when the violations occur. in your future plan, are you planning on being there. why yes. >> significantly. >> can i innerject. can you let me know what your staffing structure simple how many employees have you and what roles. >> at the moment bow have 4 including myself and one man show per night that will be

changing because we are look to have it get busier but basically the nights that we were in violation we had the wrong people work thering. including the owner. >> yes. >> okay. >> can i ask if your other permits and licenses are in good standing. >> abc license is fine. as far as my knowledge yes , i believe all licenses are in good standing. no violations on the abc. not they know of, no. >> if you do take over this business you will have to reapply for entertainment permit they don't transfer. what we are talking about tonight to be clear is between now and when that is. what we want these permits to be which you are not attached you they are attached to danielle and the concern ownership. you know it is a little hard for

me to understand how as the manager the end of the day being a manager is literally being responsible for the conduct of your employees. it is literally the definition of manager. that just does not make alost sense to me. but i'm willing to put that aside. there are a couple things i want to bring up. so, if you are think burglar purchasing this business. if well is an abc violation on the abc permit not our jurisdiction, that carries over. and you end up with a severe low deappreciated asset that they give you a couple strikes i think it is 2 before they put plug. if you have one coming in, then that makes the business for many people is something people don't want to buy you have one bad

night the abc gets and you that's it youior investment is shot. it is done. if theed concern owner is planning on selling the business it just minds boggling to me anyone would allow that one asset literally abc permit in that area. will put this in danger not just you as the buyer but the seller has a lot to lose temperature is strange to me. i don't have further questions birch -- allow him to sit down and we can discuss this. commissioner thomas? anything you want to say >> no you are all asking all of the questions i would sexual harassment i think.

i appreciate that you are looking for a new start and cleaning house. bud it feels like it does not pass the sniff test you have been the manager and you have no responsibility for any of these violations over the last year. being i clarify. i was vague. my dilemma is if the person they report to is in violation of noise regulations what am i supposed to do i need to work there tomorrow. and so. ultimate low it is not my decision i may be the manager but someone above mow in the company is responsible for this my hands are tied. there is only so much i can do that is the dilemma. >> i think that person should be here tonight. why yea and they are not i don't have further questions for you person low i think you can have

a seat and we will discuss this without the person y. thank you for your time of we are not we are here. >> they are. who wants open up conversation here? thoughts? i don't have very much reassurance this permit holder will be able to stay in compliance. e specially given that the owner is the one who made a lot of these calls about how they operate and he is not here. i'm inclineed agree the commissioner wong i think this i -- anyone work immediate this industry knows sometime there ares situations hard to navigate you and little control especially if you are working under somebody -- appreciate that of course butt person that holds the permit is not here.

and i that does in the give me any sense of confident they will be in compliance moving forward. >> i take is further the one thing is that they don't care and don't want to be in compliance. i don't have faith in them. you know. if they do the same thing every week. we north allowed to in this hearing and i'm not suggesting we would attempt to prosecute take away an llp that is another thing and given the circumstances if in truth there will be a transfership of ownership in the horizon you know i don't want us to spends a lot of time on the concern owner if tell be a moot point coming up. one thing we ask do is look at

the permit condition and this is what i think we should do. and upon given the fact that the current owner is not just been in violation but just seems to truly not care about our staff and our department and when we do i recommend that we look at limiting the dons make sure they accomplice that feels comfortable for us. the thing that come to my mind first is you know department director, these violations and the complaintses i know we are on a few nights do we get complaints on week nights and the weekend. why yes. you can see that we visit the the business and received 79 complaints and visited on 45 occasions. we get complaints like after

midnight during the weekday and on those occasions i reached out and said we get complaints about loud music after midnight. he admitted on 3 occasions he was hanging out in with the music turned up with friends and said he will stop. we can't get eyeos it ourselves it is a self atestacean he shared with me. the good thing for us we are really laser focused on the live music. so complaintses come in if they don't have to be live music we can work with a permit holder and decide there may be not responsible to have live music it is in the our lane. my recommendation is that we limit live music 10 p.m. on friday and saturday nights and a time i feel comfortable that

approximate, that we can just laser focus and limit to. and then i recommend that we communicate with the attorney and make sure there are resources outside of ours being utilized to find violations outside of the live music aspect that we have to enforce daily. i'm not recommending that as part of conscience. from a conditional stand point i think i would like to saying limiting their live music to hours they are open before 10 p.m. on friday and saturday night. >> president bleiman what does that mean for the other nights of the music. no live entertainment the other nights >> yes. >> thank you. >> any thoughts on that.

i'm open to discussion here. that come to my mind. it is pretty heavy hand third degree is in how much years i have been on the commission. this is the worlds fourth away from me for electric of respect whf we do and when we are trying to did and when we care about i think it bears a response that is @way. i could not agree more especially the staff time and resources the violations occupied. >> i agree. like a flagrant sdrart of the rules the number of violations and the staff have been there and noticed them.

yea. it is unacceptable. so i agree with your proposal. >> i defer to all you should experience here in regards to the step in the00 eye think that yea. based on what commissioner perez shared that -- yea this it is -- a flouting of the rules and -- and -- this makes the most sense i support it. >> all right. >> commissioner thomas. do you have comments on this? no. i defer to you president bleiman. it seems like its a lot but upon begin the history we had with this particular venue, i think its reasonable. does not seem like there is anything else that really gets their attention and enters this

they are living up to the terms of their permit. >> i don't remember this losely. as an industry seed i feel it is important to like support the industry when we can sometimes, 99% of the people in the industry in san francisco are doing their best to follow the rules given tough situations and a lot of types the 99% are getting blamed for the one percent who has no interest in following the rowels that rubs me wrong is you know the good people out there trying to do their best and you know people you know somebody flunts the rules they have a flag randle fashion it gives everyone a bad name. makes everyone feel night life is a nuisance and something this needs to be revving lit exclude stopped this rubs me wrong personally. i don't know how many times we

have the owner who is in the here tonight you know say, i promise this is the left time. eighty-one point you are like this is just clearly not the case. right. that is where i'm from on that. >> and do you want to community when they can come back and reevaluate. than i can request to come before our hear and we will take a look at the request and we will review it. based on what we think and you know you know even given the circumstances if we limit them to friday and saturday night does anybody the commission think they will follow that? i mean. >> i will prefer to revoke the permit i then and there is not in our capacity >> not in our capacity tonight. in doing that is remarkablely onerous for staff. the resource.

essentially a long court case. and especially the fact that there may be a change in ownership that is not worth it. 10 months from now the change in ownership is not happen and violations happening all of our tools are on the table, i think short of revoking a permit the city attorney and the police and other bodies in the city that, that can act without that, this is just this gives everyone a bad name. >> shot through the heart. >> all right. i will motion to amend the permit conscience to not include any nights except friday and saturday night until 10 p.m. is there a second? second. >> public comment?

no public comment. i will close comment and we can vote. >> president bleiman. >> aye. >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner thomas. >> aye. >> commissionertory evidence. >> aye. and commissioner wong. >> aye. >> all right. moving on to the next agenda item. is number 10 commissioner comments and questions. >> i'm sure there is fun hell day stuff to lighten the mood. >> yea. happy holidays, merry christmas. happy new year and be safe out there. happy holidays to everyone. >> happy solisis. happy new year. >> [laughter] >> my friend is a scientist and every year her family sends a

happy winter solstice card. it is funny. >> i like that. echo happy holidays to everyone and the spirit of our beautiful san francisco night life and entertainment industry, please, especially given the data we received from staff tonight like go out and support our industry and businesses and tip heavy. i want to make remarks at the councilmember association did a winner wonderland event. this past weekend. the featured a drag queen story hour and would picketer and protesters showed up. the increasing occurrence and i think given the what happened at cluck q in colorado springs, know that drag performers and queer night life work and all

night life workers when you walk in your bar or night club this is something you think about now. just to all the revellers not to take away from this time of year it is a beautiful time of year. but be really supportive of everyone that works. it is much needed now. >> is there public comment? no public comment on this item j. close public comment and adjourn. happy holidays see you after the new year and be safe.

>> good morning welcome to the december 13th meeting of the san francisco transportation authority board i'm rafael mandelman i chair the board. vice chair is aaron peskin joining remotely. our clerk today is elijia seaneders and thank coleena mendoza from sfgovtv. >> commissioner chan. >> absent >> commissioner dorsey. >> present. >> commissioner mandelman. >> present. >> commissioner mar. >> present. >> commissioner melgar. >> absent >> commissioner peskin.